| 00:08.25 | Semlar | it's taunting you |
| 00:10.04 | Neffi | Semlar: what have I walked in on? http://youtu.be/XGSbr9nVOPE |
| 00:11.42 | Semlar | i don't think you're walking at all |
| 00:12.08 | Semlar | neffi people are throwing a fit over losing their ability to do their entire rotation using one button |
| 00:12.15 | Semlar | ..just how long have people been doing this |
| 00:12.53 | Neffi | also I think I did too much. in the opening scene, the imperials keeping me prisoner may be attacked randomly, causing the oddest glitch ever: the NPC isn't there to open the gate, so the carriage goes haywire when I reach it |
| 00:13.23 | Semlar | jump it |
| 00:14.41 | Semlar | okay, i'm convinced blizzard should just remove /castsequence |
| 00:15.34 | kullervo | I can't remember using it for anything but extremely degenerate things |
| 00:15.42 | Sintacks | the font for my msbt isn't actually changing either. |
| 00:16.26 | Semlar | you shouldn't be able to use the same spell twice in a castsequence |
| 00:18.54 | Semlar | i mean, how many legitimate uses does that have |
| 00:21.15 | Dagmar | Kill Shot. |
| 00:21.37 | Semlar | kill shot really shouldn't even be two separate casts |
| 00:21.47 | Semlar | that's a horrible design |
| 00:21.56 | Dagmar | Tell that to the damn mobs that don't fall over and gimme their loot like they should. ;) |
| 00:22.18 | Semlar | i have kill shot on its own key |
| 00:22.22 | Dagmar | Non elites die before the GCD is over when I can cast it |
| 00:22.32 | Dagmar | Elites take 2-3 shots of it. |
| 00:22.54 | Dagmar | Bosses, sometimes the cooldown has time to reset 3-4 times |
| 00:23.35 | Semlar | kill shot is absurdly weak, its main strength is the fact that it's free |
| 00:24.02 | Dagmar | Yeah I don't think it's really scaled properly for what it's supposed to be used for. |
| 00:24.04 | Semlar | at least for BM, i don't know about the harder hitting specs |
| 00:24.15 | Semlar | actually survival doesn't even have kill shot any more, so there's that |
| 00:24.25 | Dagmar | ...but then raiding gear kind of breaks normal PvE scaling anyway |
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| 00:24.29 | Semlar | frankly i would think survival would want kill shot more than beast mastery, so that's a little weird to me |
| 00:24.48 | Dagmar | Hehe got news for ya.... BM _is_ a hard-hitting spec now. :) |
| 00:25.28 | Dagmar | ...despite them nerfing the hell out of Stampede. |
| 00:25.40 | Dagmar | ...although it was pretty OP when it came out. |
| 00:25.45 | Semlar | i don't even have stampede because they turned it into a talent |
| 00:25.51 | Dagmar | I mean, _five_ big red pets? OMG |
| 00:26.11 | Semlar | and there is no way in hell i'm exchanging blink strikes for stampede |
| 00:26.14 | Dagmar | Yeah I picked birds because I'm feeling lazy |
| 00:26.43 | Semlar | birds are useful if you need an extra cooldown |
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| 00:26.55 | Semlar | actually they're a lot more useful now because they reset their cooldown |
| 00:27.02 | Dagmar | Well, I like 'em because I can alternate between them and Additional Beastie |
| 00:28.01 | Dagmar | ...for PvE where there's juuuust enough time between fights that I can alternate their cooldowns. |
| 00:29.00 | Dagmar | Personally I'd like to see another Misdirection glyph that auto-selects one's pet |
| 00:29.18 | Dagmar | Glyphed Distracting Shot is nice tho |
| 00:29.35 | Dagmar | It's super fun for pranks. |
| 00:29.59 | Dagmar | Place passive stealthed kitty behind noob, distracting shot, yell "OMG LOOK OUT!" |
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| 00:37.07 | Semlar | how the hell do you remove images from one of your addons on curse |
| 00:37.49 | relaxok | it was indeed MEDIUM strata by default |
| 00:37.52 | relaxok | in game |
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| 02:46.01 | kd3 | alright, dsl sorted out. sigh |
| 02:48.31 | relaxok | how are main menu bar micro buttons shown on top of the main menu bar? seems like they'd be the same framestrata (MEDIUM) and the buttons would be 1 (or one past UIParent) whereas the main menu bar art frame is 2 |
| 02:48.36 | relaxok | so should draw later |
| 02:49.40 | relaxok | i see in OnLoad for the mainmenubar it calls RaiseFrameLevel on MainMenuBarArtFrame.. would that make it 1 instead of 2 or 3 instead of 2? even if it made it 1, i don't see why it would draw beforehand |
| 02:50.00 | Iriel | The microbuttons are 4 |
| 02:50.02 | Iriel | art frame 3 |
| 02:50.05 | Iriel | menu bar 1 |
| 02:50.08 | Iriel | uiparent 0 |
| 02:50.34 | relaxok | hmm that doesn't make sense from the xml |
| 02:51.24 | kd3 | oh wow, a 26th quest: "Players are now able to accept the Iron Horde Invasion quest even if their Quest Logs are full." |
| 02:51.26 | Iriel | Arentâ the parent-child relationships sufficient to push the frame level to 3 beforehand? |
| 02:52.00 | relaxok | Iriel: e.g. CharacterMicroButton is the highest level in the xml, not inside anything.. and its parent is UIParent.. so that would make it 1 as far as i can tell |
| 02:52.10 | relaxok | MainMenuBarMicroButtons.xml |
| 02:52.29 | Iriel | I dunno, I just did /framestack ingame |
| 02:52.35 | Iriel | I havenât looked at the XML recently. |
| 02:52.36 | relaxok | yeah i figured hmm |
| 02:52.50 | relaxok | im looking to see if any lua might be doing it |
| 02:52.58 | Iriel | Are you sure youâre not accounting for the XML setting frame levels? |
| 02:53.24 | relaxok | i think so yes.. CharacterMicroButton isn't a child of anything in the xml |
| 02:53.26 | relaxok | for example |
| 02:53.34 | relaxok | the parent is set to UIParent but thats it |
| 02:56.16 | relaxok | ah hmm MainMenuBar.xml OnShow |
| 02:56.17 | relaxok | UpdateMicroButtonsParent(MainMenuBarArtFrame); |
| 02:56.24 | Iriel | Are you sure SetParent doesnât make the childâs frame level parent + 1 |
| 02:56.27 | Iriel | because itâs reparented |
| 02:56.43 | relaxok | yeah |
| 02:56.45 | relaxok | that may be it! |
| 02:58.07 | relaxok | trying now |
| 02:58.28 | relaxok | and RaiseFrameLevel probably adds 1? (thus why mainmenubarartframe is 3 not 2) |
| 02:58.50 | relaxok | frame:SetFrameLevel(frame:GetFrameLevel()+1); |
| 02:58.50 | relaxok | yep |
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| 03:00.42 | relaxok | hot damn that worked |
| 03:00.48 | relaxok | you are glorious iriel |
| 03:04.06 | relaxok | new models so good |
| 03:17.45 | relaxok | im failing so hard at GameTooltip |
| 03:18.36 | relaxok | where in the world does it rebuild the borders |
| 03:22.02 | relaxok | backdrop size |
| 03:22.03 | relaxok | i mean |
| 03:35.04 | Neffi | relaxok: the size of the tooltip is handled automagically behind-the-scenes |
| 03:35.33 | relaxok | yeah i think i just figured out where to put the update of it |
| 03:36.21 | Neffi | I'm not sure under which circumstances it ought to update the size, but I do know calling :Show() will do it |
| 03:36.39 | Neffi | there are probably several other scenarios where the size is updated |
| 03:44.08 | smcn | DJJeff: i think you were the one who was also wondering about routes, just figured out it works if you get the latest version (r142) of LibMapData |
| 03:46.28 | smcn | well, sort of |
| 03:47.11 | smcn | can't get to config window but the routes you already have will show up on world map but not minimap |
| 03:47.15 | smcn | so i guess hardly at all |
| 03:48.03 | Simca | wait routes doesn't work? |
| 03:48.09 | smcn | nope |
| 03:48.49 | smcn | it hasn't been updated since april 2013 |
| 03:49.43 | Neffi | ack. i was gonna tackle updating that, but I let my sub lapse. probably not gonna bother now |
| 03:49.54 | smcn | you must. YOU MUST |
| 03:50.03 | Neffi | <_< |
| 03:50.09 | smcn | you mussssssst /rarity |
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| 03:50.28 | Simca | 8x SharedXML\AddonList.lua:575: AddOn index must be in the range of 1 to 176 |
| 03:50.28 | Simca | [C]: in function `GetAddOnInfo' |
| 03:50.30 | Simca | lol wut |
| 03:50.44 | Simca | I have too many addons for the default UI to handle? |
| 03:50.45 | Neffi | if it's not fixed by the time I resub (no idea when that will be, probably no time soon) I'll see if I can can get permission to continue it. don't hold your breath |
| 03:51.02 | Simca | hopefully it has an open repo |
| 03:51.04 | smcn | i will hold my breath and my estate will hold you accountable for what happens |
| 03:51.10 | Neffi | Simca: it's all rights reserved |
| 03:51.11 | smcn | j/k i don't have an estate |
| 03:51.14 | Simca | bleh |
| 03:52.05 | smcn | hm is there an addon that will otherwise allow you to draw lines on the map that will show up on minimap? |
| 03:52.12 | smcn | that is up to date for 6.0 |
| 03:52.32 | Simca | i'll post a fix for routes in a second |
| 03:52.34 | Neffi | well, you could place a *bunch* of notes to form a line :P |
| 03:52.41 | Simca | it's probably like a two line fix like every other addon |
| 03:52.48 | smcn | Simca: <3 |
| 03:57.41 | Simca | welp unfortunately it's not a simple fix |
| 03:57.46 | Simca | since the line in question is: local f = function() LibStub("AceConfigDialog-3.0"):Open("Routes") end |
| 03:58.11 | Simca | and the stack trace is just about 12 AceConfigDialog functions on top of each other |
| 03:58.26 | smcn | yeah lol |
| 04:00.27 | Simca | ah i think i see the issue |
| 04:01.04 | Simca | he's using #GetMapContinents() as the upper bound of a table on line 214 |
| 04:01.10 | Simca | that will cause serious issues |
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| 04:18.49 | relaxok | Neffi: here's one for you... where the hell does InterfaceOptionsLanguagesPanelLocaleDropDown get hidden? it's always shown for me |
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| 04:40.56 | DJJeff | wow-pro addon requires tomtom which is enabled but still need to wait for tomtom to be fixed |
| 04:41.28 | DJJeff | also I noticed that omen threat meter wont put the messages in say chat anymore |
| 04:41.36 | DJJeff | which is probley why RSA is also broken |
| 04:42.02 | DJJeff | overachiever finally got an update????????? |
| 04:42.08 | DJJeff | OMG OMG OMG I jizzed |
| 04:42.24 | DJJeff | the addon has not been updated in over 2 years |
| 04:44.43 | DJJeff | also not sure if carbonite is gonna see any action |
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| 04:57.47 | Shadowed | augh |
| 04:57.51 | Shadowed | someone who manages omnicc isn't here |
| 04:57.54 | Shadowed | I need someone to yell at |
| 05:01.13 | Fisker | Yell at the skies |
| 05:03.19 | Elmoe | hmm seal of truth is behaving odd since patch GetSpellBookItemInfo() returns nothing and IsSpellKnown() returns false yet ret paladins def have the spell |
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| 05:09.37 | Corv | Okay, I know this was a nightmare for ages, but I don't recall exactly where the problem lay: |
| 05:09.50 | Corv | Does Blizz's Dropdown stuff still cause a mess of taint errors post-6.0? |
| 05:10.02 | Corv | Or, where would I start checking? |
| 05:11.29 | Simca | ah ha, found the issue DJJeff |
| 05:11.40 | Simca | I had to wipe out all of my routes settings to debug it, sadly. lol |
| 05:12.45 | smcn | aw |
| 05:15.35 | Simca | actually it looks like it is a second flaw in LibMapData |
| 05:15.39 | Corv | Hmm: UIDROPDOWNMENU_MAXBUTTONS is now 22. |
| 05:15.41 | Simca | something that the author didn't fix |
| 05:15.57 | Corv | IIRC, the problem was when an addon's dropdown was more than that many entries long, so: hopeful/ |
| 05:20.33 | Simca | yeah, the fix for LibMapData is flawed, it only fixed the lua error that occurred |
| 05:20.47 | Simca | the addon will still return -wildly- flawed data |
| 05:24.55 | Simca | sweet, at least it has an open repo |
| 05:32.00 | Simca | I'm actually really glad i looked into this, DJJeff, since it was breaking one of my own addons without me realizing it |
| 06:10.34 | Simca | http://www.wowace.com/addons/libmapdata-1-0/files/122-r143/ |
| 06:10.38 | Simca | http://www.wowace.com/addons/routes/files/301-v1-4-2-9-g3e7b2d0/ |
| 06:10.48 | Simca | DJJeff: fixed libmapdata and routes |
| 06:13.34 | Neffi | ~framexm |
| 06:13.39 | Neffi | ~framexml |
| 06:13.39 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml |
| 06:15.29 | karl_w_w | life advice: never buy bread because you're out of bread |
| 06:15.56 | karl_w_w | it's very easy to take bread for granted and forget how good it is |
| 06:16.32 | karl_w_w | and before you know it you're eating low GI all grain rye bollocks |
| 06:19.07 | Neffi | wat |
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| 06:42.23 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/vmDdCYR.gif omg |
| 06:45.09 | Simca | Neffi: that was important enough that i just pasted it into all five other IRC channels i'm in |
| 06:45.14 | Simca | lol |
| 06:45.24 | Constie | katz |
| 06:55.18 | Dagmar | Groove cats |
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| 07:29.19 | DJJeff | Simca what are you talking about? |
| 07:29.31 | Simca | routes |
| 07:29.33 | DJJeff | ah |
| 07:29.41 | DJJeff | I see it got an update on curse |
| 07:29.43 | Simca | you wanted it fixed, now it is: http://www.wowace.com/addons/routes/files/301-v1-4-2-9-g3e7b2d0/ |
| 07:29.50 | Simca | yeah |
| 07:29.58 | DJJeff | I actually have never used that addon before |
| 07:30.23 | DJJeff | it was suggested to use with the gathermate2 addon? |
| 07:30.27 | DJJeff | or gatherer? |
| 07:30.34 | nevcairiel | both should work |
| 07:30.35 | DJJeff | I forget which |
| 07:30.47 | DJJeff | to be honest I just can not wait for tomtom to be fixed |
| 07:30.55 | DJJeff | I needs my tomtom |
| 07:31.38 | DJJeff | is omnicc even broken? |
| 07:31.46 | Primer | works for me |
| 07:32.06 | DJJeff | omnicc is 6.0.1 for me |
| 07:32.08 | nevcairiel | omnicc breaks alpha of cooldown swipes |
| 07:32.19 | nevcairiel | because it overrides the alpha with some global value |
| 07:32.56 | DJJeff | nevcairiel you work on gathermate2 right? |
| 07:33.02 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 07:33.04 | DJJeff | is it a good addon? |
| 07:33.16 | nevcairiel | it does what its meant to do |
| 07:33.17 | jleclanche | is there something like auctionlite in 6.x? |
| 07:33.59 | DJJeff | ok cool I was using gatherer for a long time |
| 07:34.09 | DJJeff | just installed gathermate2 last week |
| 07:34.40 | DJJeff | I like how it shares nodes with the guild |
| 07:34.55 | nevcairiel | if your guild also runs the sharing plugin that is |
| 07:36.12 | DJJeff | ok |
| 07:36.23 | DJJeff | I think gatherer just does it with the 1 addon |
| 07:36.39 | nevcairiel | most people just download the finished node database anyway |
| 07:38.00 | mitch0 | <ot> any idea where to send feature-requests for google-groups? </ot> |
| 07:38.57 | Primer | dammit, I just can't figure out wtf's going on with my arrow pointing math |
| 07:39.10 | mitch0 | you're doing it wrong |
| 07:39.16 | Primer | I wonder if it has to do with the fact that UnitPosition returns negative numbers |
| 07:39.21 | Primer | obviously |
| 07:39.49 | nevcairiel | well, the wow coordinates just dont start at 0.0 in some corner, 0.0 is in the middle somewhere, but that shouldnt cause problems |
| 07:41.31 | Primer | the variables are pretty much the same. The unit's x and y and the player's x and y |
| 07:41.52 | Primer | it's just that those are what's returned from UnitPosition() now instead of GetPlayerMapPosition() |
| 07:43.05 | nevcairiel | the big difference between the two is that UnitPosition is relative to the continent, not the zone |
| 07:43.50 | Primer | But isn't GPMP a top/left origin? |
| 07:44.04 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 07:44.09 | Primer | whereas UP is a proper x/y axis, with negative numbers? |
| 07:45.04 | Primer | yeah |
| 07:45.05 | nevcairiel | UP is also bottom right origin |
| 07:45.05 | Primer | so... |
| 07:45.10 | Sintacks | ocd is annoying when making tables ... |
| 07:45.31 | nevcairiel | to the north and west increase the UP values |
| 07:45.41 | nevcairiel | which is flipped to GPMP |
| 07:47.32 | Primer | well, shit |
| 07:47.56 | Primer | ok, so I just had to flip the formula and it worked |
| 07:48.19 | nevcairiel | yay \o/ |
| 07:48.43 | Primer | I see also a UnitDistanceSquared() was added |
| 07:48.48 | Primer | why squared though? |
| 07:49.43 | nevcairiel | because its part of the formula to calculate it, and they decided to skip the sqrt |
| 07:50.18 | nevcairiel | if you do a distance check, you are fine this way, only if you want to display the value you need a sqrt |
| 07:51.05 | Primer | It just seems arbitrary |
| 07:51.11 | Primer | why not UnitDistanceTimes42() ? |
| 07:51.37 | nevcairiel | Like i said, the formula to calculate distance gives you the distance squared, which you would usually sqrt then |
| 07:51.54 | nevcairiel | but they decided to skip that step, since its not necessarily required, and sqrt is expensive |
| 07:53.20 | Shirik | http://www.boston.com/health/2014/10/15/poop-bank-massachusetts-will-pay-you-per-dump/FMMhBXMKyFNTRXKoThmnpM/story.html?p1=Topofpage:Carousel_lead_headline |
| 07:53.23 | nevcairiel | ie. d² = (x2 - x1)² + (y2 - y1)² |
| 07:53.46 | Primer | yeah, that's the old formula I had |
| 07:53.52 | Primer | but wrapped in a sqrt |
| 07:54.17 | nevcairiel | if you need to know if something is say 30 ft away, you might as well check if its 30² away |
| 07:54.27 | nevcairiel | only if you want to display the value, you need to sqrt it then |
| 07:54.33 | Sintacks | y u do dis blizz |
| 07:54.34 | Primer | no, I'm actually showing the distance |
| 07:54.38 | Primer | right |
| 07:55.11 | DJJeff | no one wants todo dungeons anymore |
| 07:55.14 | DJJeff | because of the nerf |
| 07:55.19 | DJJeff | wtf blizzard |
| 07:55.26 | DJJeff | I /ragequit |
| 07:55.30 | nevcairiel | old dungeons are super boring for anyone with gear |
| 07:55.49 | nevcairiel | you just do way too much damage |
| 07:56.13 | Primer | yeah, I needed some heirlooms so I queued as heals on my priest and just DPSd |
| 07:56.24 | Primer | fucking tanks were complaining that they couldn't hold aggro |
| 07:56.32 | Primer | and I didn't want to waste a GCD to drop it |
| 07:56.34 | Kalroth | l2p issue |
| 07:57.11 | Primer | but shit would die and the run would be quick |
| 07:57.20 | Primer | so they got over it quickly too |
| 07:57.23 | DJJeff | we just wiped 14 times on stonecore |
| 07:57.31 | DJJeff | at level 84 |
| 07:57.36 | DJJeff | cata randoms |
| 07:57.42 | DJJeff | blizzzard done goofed |
| 07:57.56 | Neffi | sounds like your group is bad |
| 07:58.01 | DJJeff | um no |
| 07:58.12 | DJJeff | it means no more facerolling dungeons |
| 07:58.21 | DJJeff | in 15 min |
| 07:58.34 | DJJeff | tanks still think they can faceroll dungeons |
| 07:58.37 | Neffi | if that's true, then Blizzard certainly didnt goof |
| 07:59.15 | nevcairiel | at max level dungeons are way too easy now in any case |
| 07:59.22 | nevcairiel | lvl 90 doesnt scale well with the changes |
| 08:01.27 | DJJeff | world of warcraft is dead to me... time to play second life |
| 08:01.45 | DJJeff | untill blizzard gets these changes dealt with |
| 08:02.32 | Neffi | because it's important to have standards |
| 08:03.25 | DJJeff | its almost like wow has gone back to vanilla style gameplay |
| 08:03.52 | DJJeff | which is interesting for people who have played wow for over 5 years |
| 08:04.04 | DJJeff | sucks for people who have only played wow for less then 1 year |
| 08:04.10 | Sintacks | than* |
| 08:04.16 | DJJeff | than* |
| 08:04.40 | Primer | and there's the server shutdown in 15 minutes |
| 08:04.44 | Primer | got this fixed just in time |
| 08:06.23 | Primer | nevcairiel: thanks for the help |
| 08:07.18 | Sintacks | yay. i got my table fixed. |
| 08:07.24 | Sintacks | now to make it actually usable.... |
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| 08:38.54 | Sintacks | someone with an account go update http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetRaidBuffTrayAuraInfo kthx. new list: http://pastebin.com/KbdYNPyY |
| 08:42.11 | nevcairiel | done |
| 08:43.06 | nevcairiel | are you sure thats correct though? |
| 08:43.11 | nevcairiel | those constants dont evaluate to things |
| 08:43.55 | nevcairiel | should all just be RAID_BUFF_# |
| 08:46.07 | Sintacks | i think the _# shouldn't be there. should be LE_RAID_BUFF_HASTE = 4, _CRITICAL_STRIKE = 6 ... etc etc |
| 08:46.39 | nevcairiel | RAID_BUFF_6 evaluates to "Critical Strike" though |
| 08:47.06 | Sintacks | does RAID_BUFF_CRITICAL_STRIKE eval to anythiung |
| 08:47.39 | Sintacks | the _# would be easier to use, that's for sure. |
| 08:48.08 | nevcairiel | LE_RAID_BUFF_CRITRICAL_STRIKE is 6, yes |
| 08:48.18 | nevcairiel | one is index, one is text, i guess |
| 08:48.25 | Sintacks | i gues |
| 08:48.58 | Sintacks | 1my servers aren't back up so i can't do anything :| |
| 08:49.13 | Sintacks | o. they are back up now |
| 08:49.39 | Sintacks | all i know is... finding the updated list took me 10 m9inutes cuz i didn't know what i was actually looking for. heh. |
| 08:49.42 | nevcairiel | it listed RAID_BUFF_# stuff before on the page, so i just made it list them again |
| 08:49.59 | Sintacks | and world server is down.... |
| 08:50.06 | Sintacks | that makes sense |
| 08:50.15 | Sintacks | and is what most people that would be looking at it would want to use anyway |
| 08:58.07 | nebula169 | thats correct, i use GetRaidBuffs() and RAID_BUFF_X, how does GetRaidBuffTrayAuraInfo work? doesn't have args listed, assume it takes the index? |
| 08:58.35 | Sintacks | index, yes |
| 08:58.52 | Sintacks | i think |
| 08:58.53 | Sintacks | idk tbh |
| 08:58.58 | Sintacks | i know it's buggy (or used to be) |
| 08:59.09 | Sintacks | so it was remade for this addon |
| 09:12.16 | Sintacks | why the hell am i still awake |
| 09:13.27 | haste | because you belive you live in CEST |
| 09:34.57 | zenzio | desperation - when you just can't work out where your apache install is looking for files (hint: not where its supposed config says): find / -name 'index.html*' -type f -exec grep -Hn 'It works' {} \; |
| 09:38.10 | zenzio | the answer turned out to point out the actual issue. Apparently OS X includes "apachectl" by default, so when I thought I was using XAMPP's, I was rather wrong |
| 09:39.52 | mitch0 | that's what you get for running servers on a desktop OS |
| 09:40.18 | mitch0 | what next? running apache on win8 ? |
| 09:41.33 | nevcairiel | that would actually be less of a problem then osx, apparently :P |
| 09:42.21 | zenzio | I only run the server on the Mac because I don't have a linux box to run servers on at work |
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| 09:53.13 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://pastebin.com || 6.0.x ToC: 60000 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || This channel is logged, via purl || WoD beta access! WoWI: http://bit.ly/1smb4qM or Curse: http://goo.gl/eVsdYQ || BC UI Community Dinner Sign Up: http://bit.ly/1pqdONd || "I was so in love with my hand" ~ Fisker |
| 09:57.28 | mitch0 | vbox / rpi / whatever... lame excuses are lame |
| 10:04.11 | nevcairiel | apache can kinda run on anything, if thats really all you need, setting up a VM for that is kinda overkill |
| 10:10.05 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:10.49 | haste | I run nginx and postgres on my laptop, which runs linux... just too much hassle to fire up a VM |
| 10:17.04 | sb | haste: docker seems to be great for that |
| 10:17.53 | haste | sb: not sure how easy it is to develop on the same machine as you deploy docker tho' |
| 10:18.13 | haste | right now it's... restart Go application -- done |
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| 11:22.24 | zenzio | Chrome only (I think): http://www.seehearparty.com/ |
| 11:22.38 | zenzio | was reasonably accurate for myt attempts |
| 11:22.47 | zenzio | -t |
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| 11:46.45 | sb | nice :o |
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| 11:54.36 | mitch0 | yeah |
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| 13:08.16 | karl_w_w | "Weâll send reminders before the maintenance at ~48 hours and ~24 hours, respectively." |
| 13:08.28 | karl_w_w | Some people don't know what the word respectively means. |
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| 13:14.54 | Seeker` | karl_w_w: it means that someone wants to put bigger words in the announcement to make it seem more important |
| 13:15.26 | karl_w_w | Indubitably. |
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| 13:50.32 | Seeker` | Is anyone aware of any addons which track the number of battle resses available? |
| 13:53.16 | Semlar | ora |
| 13:54.29 | Semlar | i might just write a standalone addon for it |
| 13:55.33 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 13:55.33 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14881658537 |
| 13:55.42 | bluspacecow | can anyone here test this on Windows for me ? |
| 13:56.27 | karl_w_w | does windows have a % thing for documents? |
| 13:56.34 | karl_w_w | the documents folder |
| 13:57.22 | karl_w_w | no |
| 13:57.50 | Semlar | there's SERPROFILE% |
| 13:57.54 | Semlar | .. |
| 13:57.58 | Semlar | thanks irc |
| 13:58.50 | Semlar | % USERPROFILE%\documents |
| 13:59.08 | Semlar | or my documents |
| 13:59.14 | Semlar | i guess it depends on the windows |
| 14:02.57 | VIad | Semlar: only if the game is installed in the program files folder right? |
| 14:03.19 | Semlar | what now |
| 14:03.59 | VIad | wait... |
| 14:04.08 | VIad | thought it was a question about addons folder :p |
| 14:04.27 | VIad | when you install in program files the user specific settings get written to another place for security - in case computer is shared |
| 14:06.21 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 14:06.25 | karl_w_w | you know what's odd? |
| 14:07.00 | karl_w_w | you can create a junction in a user command prompt but you need elevated command prompt for symlinks |
| 14:07.33 | mikma | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=18716&page=53 - phanx is having a bad day |
| 14:08.04 | karl_w_w | it's windows way of saying 'we had junctions all along you bastards, we'll support your symlink bollocks but we won't make it easy' |
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| 14:19.52 | Seeker` | mikma: I can't imagine that maintaining an addon that people actually use is a pleasent experience :P |
| 14:20.34 | Semlar | thank god nobody uses my addons |
| 14:21.04 | VIad | any tips regarding the pitbull4 issue with health bar text disappearing when I anchor it to the right? |
| 14:21.07 | VIad | Lua:Health |
| 14:21.54 | zenzio | "Docker is teaming up with Microsoft to bring its open container technology to the next release of Windows Server. Docker Engine will work with the next release of Windows Server and images will be available in Docker Hub, which will also integrate directly into Microsoft Azure." - interesting |
| 14:22.03 | Seeker` | Semlar: I think something similar :P That, or when I've contributed to bigger projecst I've made sure I don't have to deal with people :P |
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| 14:25.21 | mikma | semlar: because your addons are SHIT! joking! |
| 14:25.41 | Semlar | :( |
| 14:26.05 | Seeker` | I have a bad habit of writing addons then abandoning them |
| 14:26.29 | Semlar | sometimes i'll abandon something before i even write it |
| 14:27.53 | Alram | sometimes Fisker abandons things before he even thinks of them |
| 14:29.42 | Alram | like our relationship |
| 14:29.45 | Alram | :( |
| 14:30.23 | rid_ | :( |
| 14:30.24 | Constie | Dang. |
| 14:31.12 | Fisker | Sorry Alram |
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| 15:16.57 | nebula169 | VIad: want to test for me? i can't reproduce it, but try opening PitBull4\Controls\BetterStatusBar.lua and set EPSILON to a smaller value |
| 15:19.45 | VIad | nebula169: moment doing now |
| 15:20.42 | VIad | worked |
| 15:20.51 | nebula169 | what value did you use? |
| 15:21.13 | VIad | I did a brute test by using .00000001 |
| 15:21.50 | VIad | why e1-7 btw? |
| 15:22.13 | Torhal | He's just not that into you, Alram. |
| 15:22.54 | nebula169 | needed a small value > 0 as a starting value for animating bars |
| 15:23.13 | VIad | ah |
| 15:23.22 | VIad | the animation is kind of choppy btw |
| 15:23.24 | VIad | always been for me |
| 15:23.30 | VIad | just saying :p |
| 15:24.15 | smcn | Simca: thank you so much for fixing routes |
| 15:24.26 | nebula169 | yeeeea, and it does some weird things when animating large gaps like on target switching |
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| 15:31.51 | Constie | Why doesn't PitBull have boss frames? |
| 15:32.16 | VIad | ahhh that would be nice |
| 15:32.31 | Constie | Alternately: Does PitBull have boss frames that I've been failing to notice like a dummy? |
| 15:32.59 | nevcairiel | I don't think it does |
| 15:33.25 | Constie | I know it doesn't actually matter because modern computers, but it feels incredibly wasteful to also have SUF or whatever running just for those frames. |
| 15:33.48 | nevcairiel | Just use suf only |
| 15:34.09 | TC-Work | DUF! |
| 15:34.16 | karl_w_w | don't you think "lovely" is a lovely word? |
| 15:34.25 | karl_w_w | I like words that describe themselves |
| 15:35.12 | Constie | Well, I change my unit frames around a lot, and I think PitBull's configuration menu is by far the most pleasant to use. And it has options for frame stratas and stuff that I occasionally need and I believe SUF lacks. |
| 15:37.46 | Elkano | just write your own unit frames... ;) |
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| 15:38.45 | Elkano | did 19034 brng any interface changes? |
| 15:39.23 | Elkano | (most likely, since they mentioned LUA *sic* in the hotfix notes) |
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| 16:40.28 | zenzelezz | well, looks like they adjusted mobs so leveling is again easier, but I'm still a bit annoyed at having to use a heal ten times to heal my own amount of HP. I might just be in a weird spot at this level |
| 16:47.31 | karl_w_w | I'd say they should just tune it so heals OP and heal your whole health bar to make levelling as a healer less crap |
| 16:47.41 | karl_w_w | but that would make BGs a bit ridiculous |
| 16:48.25 | karl_w_w | a bit more ridiculous* |
| 16:58.53 | mikma | alram: you made fisker sound like a huge douche, aka. hipster |
| 17:09.41 | karl_w_w | i saw the equalizer today, it was awesome |
| 17:09.51 | karl_w_w | moderately awesome |
| 17:10.21 | Fisker | hey mikma |
| 17:10.23 | Fisker | no |
| 17:14.25 | Alram | nah mikma i have respect or Fisker |
| 17:14.28 | Alram | of* |
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| 17:15.54 | TC-Work | If you define hipster as needing the newest nexus device, then yes, Fisker is king. |
| 17:17.40 | Arrowmaster | ive only got 5 nexus devices in my house right now |
| 17:18.46 | Fisker | I don't need the newest nexus device TC-Work |
| 17:18.54 | TC-Work | Lies Fisker, Lies. |
| 17:19.21 | zenzelezz | he doesn't need it because he already stole a copy |
| 17:22.55 | karl_w_w | he doesn't need it because he bought the prototype |
| 17:24.46 | Simca | he doesn't need it because he is the newest nexus device |
| 17:25.12 | Fisker | I don't need nexus because? |
| 17:26.08 | karl_w_w | you're really not going to get it Fisker? what if it's the last one and google ends the line? |
| 17:26.19 | karl_w_w | how will you cope not having the final model? |
| 17:26.30 | Fisker | You misunderstand how words work |
| 17:26.37 | Fisker | That I don't need a nexus doesn't mean I won't get one |
| 17:26.55 | TC-Work | Where you see choice, I see complusive need. |
| 17:34.16 | zenzelezz | "Go not to the compilers for counsel, for they will say both no and yes and Internal Compiler Error" - heh |
| 17:36.15 | Fisker | k TC-Work |
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| 17:39.51 | runge | is there a work around for GetSpellLink for spellnames for talents that one have not learned? |
| 17:44.23 | Semlar | loop over their talents and make a table using the spell name? |
| 17:51.34 | foxlit | psst, write me a single for loop that iterates over all my macros. |
| 17:55.18 | runge | Semlar, that is the easiest way to get a spell id when suppling spellname of a talent that is not selected? |
| 17:55.54 | Semlar | well i don't know how else you would do it |
| 17:56.36 | runge | Semlar, ok :) |
| 18:00.46 | Semlar | runge: something like this http://pastebin.com/QgbKNswY |
| 18:01.41 | Semlar | it would probably be more efficient to cache the result in a table but meh |
| 18:02.05 | Semlar | iterates over foxlit |
| 18:03.50 | Constie | Is it possible to have nameplates display the distance between the unit and you? |
| 18:04.04 | Semlar | no |
| 18:04.30 | Semlar | at least not without blizzard breaking it |
| 18:04.37 | karl_w_w | VIad, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTX943yvuHs bounty hunter bonus clip is the best one |
| 18:04.54 | Semlar | you could get the distance to friendly units in your raid but that's about it |
| 18:05.22 | Constie | That's unfortunate. That'd be a good way to do Halo range tracking. |
| 18:05.58 | Semlar | if you could get the distance to the nameplate you could get the camera angle which would be the end of the world |
| 18:07.33 | Semlar | i assume you mean the hostile version of halo |
| 18:07.45 | Constie | Right. |
| 18:08.00 | Semlar | because you could figure out how many players are in range |
| 18:08.26 | Constie | Although, it might be OK with just friendly units, since at least tanks will be near bosses. |
| 18:08.29 | Semlar | you could probably estimate how many enemies are within a certain distance of you |
| 18:08.35 | Semlar | but it wouldn't be reliable |
| 18:09.05 | Semlar | if you make the assumption that player x getting melee'd by a mob has that mob within a few yards of him |
| 18:09.16 | Semlar | and you know the distance to that player |
| 18:09.25 | Semlar | you can assume that mob is within that range of you |
| 18:09.28 | karl_w_w | none of this sounds very fun |
| 18:09.38 | Semlar | no, it would be a lot of work |
| 18:09.46 | karl_w_w | i mean the end result |
| 18:10.21 | karl_w_w | besides, can't you still work out an approx distance to your target? |
| 18:10.30 | karl_w_w | or did they break rangefinder |
| 18:10.35 | Semlar | you can |
| 18:10.39 | Semlar | but that's not what they asked |
| 18:10.51 | karl_w_w | rangedisplay |
| 18:11.08 | Semlar | you can use item ranges to get the relative distance to a unit |
| 18:11.30 | Semlar | but that's not going to tell you how many units are within range of you, you'd still have to actually look at the screen |
| 18:11.51 | karl_w_w | exactly, that's the upside :P |
| 18:14.15 | Semlar | oh, GetTalentLink doesn't actually give you a spell link |
| 18:14.28 | Semlar | none of these functions give you the spell id of the talent |
| 18:14.49 | Semlar | neat |
| 18:15.17 | Constie | With Halo you want to be as close to 25 yards away from as many targets as possible. You can of course target a centrally located mob and check the range to it, but it'd be nice to be able to see more. |
| 18:16.01 | Semlar | an addon would be inaccurate enough that it wouldn't be worth writing |
| 18:18.26 | Constie | Halo is annoying with bosses, because without an addon that displays approximate range it's hard to tell where boss's hitbox begins, and so maybe you'll do low damage because you're too close or no damage because you're too far away. |
| 18:19.41 | TC-Work | The floor targeting reticle is not a delineation of hitbox? |
| 18:30.00 | Constie | Well, in http://i.imgur.com/3RzneaQ.jpg I'm meleeing the boss from where the big arrow is pointing. If you cast Halo 25 yards away from the circle you'd usually be too close and lose damage. |
| 18:33.12 | runge | sorry I missed your post Semlar. thank you very much! |
| 18:33.18 | Constie | (The Halo spell does this odd thing where it does maximum damage from 25 yards and less if you're closer or farther away, so it requires some special UI considerations.) |
| 18:33.30 | Semlar | no proble |
| 18:33.32 | Semlar | m |
| 18:34.36 | VIad | foxlit: why is OneRing_Config nil? |
| 18:35.25 | karl_w_w | there's something very creepy about watching a bug crawl slowly through a small gap |
| 18:35.47 | karl_w_w | was that a split infinitive |
| 18:36.05 | karl_w_w | no |
| 18:38.00 | Semlar | here karl_w_w https://i.imgur.com/kde2QBu.gif |
| 18:38.18 | karl_w_w | hah |
| 18:39.09 | karl_w_w | that's going to happen to me one day and the fuck is going to be well and truly freaked out |
| 18:39.53 | VIad | Semlar: grats it's a bug! |
| 18:40.30 | karl_w_w | i wonder if the victim was unconscious for that |
| 18:40.39 | karl_w_w | or otherwise how he managed to stay still |
| 18:40.40 | Semlar | i doubt it |
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| 19:14.19 | Semlar | can people do arenas right now or is the season over |
| 19:14.26 | kd3 | season ended on tuesday |
| 19:14.34 | kd3 | people can do skrimishes/unrated BGs |
| 19:14.45 | Semlar | okay so you can't do rated battlegrounds or arenas at all |
| 19:17.03 | Semlar | i'm poking the lfg tool and it has arena categories but doesn't display them so i was wondering why |
| 19:19.41 | p3lim | Gotten so many bug reports about my addons not working because the game turned them off :s |
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| 19:34.11 | Mr_Rabies | hmm |
| 19:34.43 | Mr_Rabies | are there any addons that put the quest's level in the new quest log and/or reputation from quests in the rewards section? |
| 19:35.09 | Mr_Rabies | i used to have RepReward but it hasn't been updated in over a year |
| 19:35.24 | Mr_Rabies | guess i can try it but it's most likely gonna be broken |
| 19:37.14 | Mr_Rabies | oh hmm, nevcairiel recently came out with quester which does the first |
| 19:37.22 | Mr_Rabies | wonder if i could bother them into doing the second :v |
| 19:42.06 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Af8Nwhb5Ao fantastic |
| 19:42.18 | karl_w_w | the music really makes it |
| 19:42.35 | karl_w_w | lightheaded Mr_Rabies :P |
| 19:43.12 | Mr_Rabies | RepReward seems to pull the reward out via API stuff in lieu of a database |
| 19:43.16 | Mr_Rabies | it's definitely broken, dang |
| 19:44.10 | Semlar | there are a couple classic quest log addons on wowinterface that probably do this |
| 19:45.39 | Mr_Rabies | Semlar: being the mad scientist you are, how easy is it to convert to the new quest log from the old one? |
| 19:45.49 | Mr_Rabies | tempted to make a frankenaddon until i find an alternative, lol |
| 19:46.02 | Semlar | completely different system |
| 19:47.18 | Mr_Rabies | it's all rights reserved on curse but mannnn |
| 19:47.30 | Mr_Rabies | i don't understand why they didn't just add it to the default UI when they overhauled the quest log |
| 19:47.36 | Mr_Rabies | reputation is important! |
| 19:47.48 | Semlar | is it |
| 19:49.37 | foxlit | VIad: foxlit: why is OneRing_Config nil? << why wouldnât it be? |
| 19:49.58 | VIad | it's in the .toc |
| 19:50.04 | VIad | assumed it's what writes down the settings |
| 19:50.11 | Semlar | Mr_Rabies: if you have a quest that actually rewards rep, see if GetQuestLogRewardFactionInfo(index) returns anything |
| 19:50.20 | Semlar | where index is 1-25 |
| 19:51.30 | foxlit | meh, so are your settings persisting or not? |
| 19:51.58 | Semlar | i don't have a single quest that gives rep if this function works |
| 19:52.18 | VIad | foxlit: they are - that's why I wonder, why is it nil? :P |
| 19:52.29 | VIad | never seen anyone code their addon to only write the global at logout event |
| 19:55.16 | foxlit | so apparently itâs nil because itâs only written to on logout. |
| 19:55.23 | foxlit | Did you perhaps mean to ask why is it only written to on logout? |
| 19:55.25 | Arrowmaster | lol just got back from meeting recruiter for a staffing agency and he was asking me all kinds of questions when he found out i used to write wow addons |
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| 20:00.58 | Semlar | soo the new LFG system returns the "total" number of results for a search, and a table with 25 of the results.. |
| 20:01.19 | Semlar | you don't appear to be able to see all of the results |
| 20:02.24 | Semlar | like, if i do a search for "raids" it will return 104 total and only give me 25 of the results that i can actually query information about |
| 20:03.42 | VIad | foxlit: I assumed you know ;D |
| 20:03.50 | VIad | I just noticed it when writing my auto-profile loader addon |
| 20:11.04 | Neffi | If you live in the US, go claim $15 worth of Red Bull for free (or a $10 check): http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/10/09/red-bull-refund/16959529/ |
| 20:13.27 | Semlar | i'd rather not |
| 20:13.41 | Neffi | ok, can you claim them for me? lol |
| 20:14.02 | Semlar | is this a joke |
| 20:14.16 | Semlar | how is this a real settlement |
| 20:14.32 | Semlar | this is what's wrong with this country |
| 20:15.12 | Neffi | this is a real settlement, yes |
| 20:15.41 | Neffi | Claims of false advertising because Red Bull does NOT give you wings. Also because it doesn't appear to enhance athletic ability, contrary to claims made by the company. |
| 20:16.22 | Semlar | first off, redbull is disgusting |
| 20:16.27 | Semlar | nobody should be drinking that |
| 20:16.44 | Neffi | well you sir are wrong |
| 20:16.51 | Semlar | however, it contains caffeine, which does enhance athletic ability |
| 20:16.55 | Neffi | ever had the blueberry or cranberry editions? they're fucking delicious |
| 20:16.58 | Semlar | so that shouldn't be a false claim |
| 20:17.23 | Mr_Rabies | i really don't understand why they removed the trap flyout for hunters |
| 20:17.24 | Mr_Rabies | and the aspect bar |
| 20:17.27 | Mr_Rabies | the mind boggles |
| 20:17.32 | Mr_Rabies | now i have even LESS space on my bars |
| 20:17.45 | Neffi | yeah, they settled to avoid bad press and a useless drawn-out litigation. they'd rather just give people free product and get on with their lives |
| 20:18.08 | Semlar | pretty sure this is a publicity stunt in itself |
| 20:18.22 | Neffi | maybe. I'm not arguing |
| 20:18.30 | Mr_Rabies | also not a ton of people really take advantage of class action lawsuits |
| 20:18.37 | Mr_Rabies | er settlements |
| 20:20.01 | VIad | btw blizz messed up my dk |
| 20:20.06 | VIad | lost half my glyphs - need to rebuy them |
| 20:20.13 | VIad | and a lot of talents got messed up :p not what I usually roll |
| 20:20.48 | Esamynn|work | ~comfort VIad |
| 20:20.49 | purl | There, there, VIad. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 20:20.57 | VIad | ~kill Esamynn| |
| 20:20.57 | purl | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized electron gun at Esamynn| |
| 20:20.59 | VIad | :D |
| 20:21.45 | Esamynn|work | ~whaleparry VIad |
| 20:21.45 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry VIad's attacks. |
| 20:22.32 | VIad | ~whaleshield Esamynn|work |
| 20:22.39 | VIad | ~whalenuke Esamynn|work |
| 20:22.39 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Esamynn|work with his mind powers. |
| 20:22.51 | Esamynn|work | ~whaleshield |
| 20:22.51 | purl | ACTION summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield esamynn|work from the blast. |
| 20:22.52 | foxlit | why is the sky flickering and some ability icons just transparent/black? |
| 20:23.36 | VIad | new engine issues :( |
| 20:24.31 | Mr_Rabies | foxlit: do you use crossfire/sli? |
| 20:24.38 | foxlit | yes. |
| 20:24.42 | Mr_Rabies | there's a bug with those atm |
| 20:24.55 | Mr_Rabies | it's a known issue so hopefully it'll be fixed soon |
| 20:26.06 | VIad | druids can mount in forms with a bug too ;) |
| 20:26.16 | Esamynn|work | HAHA |
| 20:26.29 | Semlar | can i mount druids though |
| 20:26.38 | VIad | you can mount my anyday |
| 20:26.38 | Esamynn|work | ~lart Semlar |
| 20:26.38 | purl | beats the living hamstercrap out of Semlar |
| 20:26.58 | Esamynn|work | ~fishslap VIad |
| 20:26.58 | purl | ACTION slaps VIad up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 20:27.10 | foxlit | Mr_Rabies: mm, did they acknowledge it somewhere? |
| 20:27.19 | Semlar | alright, so apparently the LFG search only displays the first 25 results of whatever search you enter and doesn't page or anything |
| 20:27.34 | Mr_Rabies | yeah i forget where foxlit |
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| 20:27.42 | Mr_Rabies | maybe on known issues on bug report forum? |
| 20:28.24 | foxlit | nopehttp://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5207772317#3 |
| 20:28.29 | foxlit | s/nope// |
| 20:31.28 | foxlit | also in that thread: âWhile we love AddOns and actively support their development, â¦â |
| 20:35.31 | Semlar | i feel loved |
| 20:43.23 | TC-Work | Hmmm, I wonder if Iriel is going to get one of the new iMacs. |
| 20:44.08 | Fisker | I'm not |
| 20:44.14 | TC-Work | No kidding. |
| 20:44.26 | Fisker | I want a 5k display though |
| 20:44.41 | TC-Work | I have a 4K and kinda regret it. |
| 20:44.48 | Fisker | :( |
| 20:44.51 | Fisker | Performance? |
| 20:45.03 | TC-Work | No, just use. |
| 20:45.22 | TC-Work | Can't see shit without scaling. |
| 20:45.29 | TC-Work | And I hate scaling. |
| 20:45.53 | TC-Work | I would like to play games on it, but that would require beefier card(s) than I have. |
| 20:46.04 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 20:46.26 | TC-Work | So at the end of the day it's quite 'meh'. |
| 20:46.50 | Fisker | Windows does scaling poorly compared to Mac I hear |
| 20:47.29 | TC-Work | Agreed. |
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| 20:55.43 | Unkle | I would like to buy a new Mac, but only because my current generation of hardware is getting a little long in the tooth. |
| 20:56.09 | TC-Work | the 5K iMacs start at not chump change. |
| 20:56.16 | TC-Work | ~$2,5K |
| 20:56.40 | TC-Work | iirc $4.4K for fully loaded. |
| 20:56.42 | Fisker | That's only like 2 nexus launches TC-Work |
| 20:57.03 | Fisker | New chromecast as well |
| 20:58.31 | Mr_Rabies | okay |
| 20:58.35 | Mr_Rabies | when i'm playing my hunter |
| 20:58.38 | Mr_Rabies | i get a constant chime playing |
| 20:58.43 | Mr_Rabies | what the hell |
| 20:59.23 | Mr_Rabies | oh you know, it's probably the premade group thing |
| 20:59.25 | Mr_Rabies | my god is that annoying |
| 21:01.53 | smcn | so basically pawn is a free in-game version of AMR's best in bags now |
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| 21:03.00 | foxlit | strcmputf8i(âAâ, âZâ); guess the return value. |
| 21:03.35 | Neffi | 0 |
| 21:03.46 | smcn | a cat emoji |
| 21:06.52 | Unkle | TC-Work: Yeah, new hardware is NOT in the cards right now. |
| 21:08.49 | Mr_Rabies | Unkle: believe in the heart of the cards |
| 21:11.14 | Fisker | falls asleep at the table |
| 21:11.40 | smcn | devalues your stocks |
| 21:15.10 | Stanzilla | ~framexml |
| 21:15.11 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml |
| 21:15.23 | TC-Work | Unkle: Yea, I'm kinda in that situation myself. |
| 21:16.14 | DJJeff | thanks for the toc bump on omen |
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| 21:23.16 | foxlit | is UBRS supposed to have like no loot? |
| 21:23.56 | Stanzilla | dropped 550 blues for me |
| 21:24.04 | kd3 | 550 pieces from the 3 bosses |
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| 21:24.31 | foxlit | got 44g from the reward quest; no actual items anywhere. |
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| 21:27.43 | nevcairiel | You need to actually loot the bosses |
| 21:27.48 | nevcairiel | Like, yourself |
| 21:28.05 | nevcairiel | Unless you're in a full guild group |
| 21:28.52 | foxlit | someone somewhere mustâve been going âHow can we make this even more non-intuitive for people?" |
| 21:28.54 | nevcairiel | Not sure if bug or intended, but personal loot is not auto distribitedy |
| 21:29.06 | nevcairiel | Distributed* |
| 21:29.42 | nevcairiel | Looting a mob to get its riches is not exactly a new concept. :P |
| 21:29.56 | foxlit | but doing personal loot in instances is. |
| 21:30.00 | Simca | looting mobs is kind of a vital part of the game, i doubt that they thought twice about it |
| 21:30.20 | foxlit | and the existing implementation of this mechanic is LFR, which certainly doesnât require you to loot anyone. |
| 21:30.31 | nevcairiel | Does now |
| 21:30.46 | Jamash | timeless isle has a bunch of mobs that give some things on death and some more stuff when looted |
| 21:30.57 | Jamash | which makes no sense, but that's how it works |
| 21:31.07 | nevcairiel | And they communicated the personal loot in LFD quite often |
| 21:32.21 | Constie | Do the boss corpses not sparkle? |
| 21:32.21 | foxlit | âIn the event a character that's eligible but was unable to loot the boss, contents of what they would have received is automatically mailed to the them." |
| 21:32.49 | Jamash | well then |
| 21:32.52 | nevcairiel | You weren't unable, you just didn't! |
| 21:33.08 | nevcairiel | Maybe you just got no loot |
| 21:33.17 | foxlit | Maybe I just got no loot. |
| 21:33.31 | Simca | the majority of things going forward will require manual loot |
| 21:33.45 | foxlit | I doubt their code would be able to tell the philosophical difference between being unable to do something and not doing it. |
| 21:33.53 | Stanzilla | they changed personal loot, you always have to loot yourself now |
| 21:33.53 | nevcairiel | Did they say that's intentional simca? |
| 21:34.04 | nevcairiel | Seems like a odd change tbh |
| 21:34.08 | Stanzilla | was in the patch notes |
| 21:34.10 | Simca | No, but it has to be intentional |
| 21:34.18 | fewyn | so |
| 21:34.22 | Simca | they purposefully changed the way SHOW_LOOT_TOAST works |
| 21:34.43 | fewyn | i do not suggest ordering from spreadshirt |
| 21:34.47 | fewyn | basically they can't seem to colour match correctly over a batch of shirts to save their lives |
| 21:34.58 | fewyn | they've messed up our guild shirt order 3 times now |
| 21:36.17 | kd3 | find a local print shop and try them instead? (I used to work for one) |
| 21:36.17 | foxlit | any idea what I couldâve moused over such that UnitGUID is truthy, but :match("^(%a+).-(%d+)[^%d%x]0*(%x*)$") returns nil? |
| 21:36.51 | Simca | a player GUID perhaps |
| 21:37.10 | Simca | they are shorter than the rest |
| 21:37.12 | Simca | only 3 fields |
| 21:37.32 | Simca | and their spawnUID is shorter than the rest too, only 8 characters |
| 21:38.17 | Semlar | there are "cinematic" units, god only knows what their guid is |
| 21:38.27 | foxlit | I was just flying somewhere in stormwind. |
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| 21:40.19 | Semlar | why aren't you just splitting it on - like a normal person |
| 21:41.37 | Semlar | that's not going to capture part of the spawn id |
| 21:41.55 | fewyn | kd3 we are kinda up against a time crunch though |
| 21:42.48 | foxlit | Semlar: because splitting on - is silly when you donât know how many parts youâre splitting things into. |
| 21:44.10 | Semlar | you have to know the unit type to know what to do with the guid anyway |
| 21:44.36 | Semlar | so you're treating them separately regardless |
| 21:45.06 | foxlit | Semlar: that's not going to capture part of the spawn id << whatever do you mean? |
| 21:45.19 | Semlar | capturing your pattern won't match the full spawn id |
| 21:45.32 | foxlit | like, for example, ... |
| 21:45.42 | Semlar | it's stripping all of the leading zeros out of it? |
| 21:46.00 | foxlit | Yes. Anything else? |
| 21:46.37 | Semlar | i assume that's not intentional since there are different spawn id lengths |
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| 21:48.39 | foxlit | it is intentional. |
| 21:49.22 | Semlar | of course it is |
| 21:50.13 | Semlar | it would have to be because there are considerably simpler patterns you could be using |
| 21:50.42 | foxlit | dropping the 0* would actually achieve the same effect, itâs mostly just paranoia. |
| 21:51.58 | Jamash | y'know, with reagent bank, toybox and bag cleanup I'm wondering if I still need arkinventory |
| 21:52.08 | foxlit | I didnât want to feed overly long strings to tonumber(), but it turns out that it doesnât care. |
| 21:52.51 | Jamash | what's an alt inventory search addon that can search by rarity? |
| 21:53.57 | kd3 | I think I'm looking for something that does smart categorization. Hey, here's all the T15 stuff you have in void storage |
| 21:54.17 | Semlar | ^([^-]+).+%-([^-]+)%-([^-]+)$ would also work if you just want the first and last two fields |
| 21:54.42 | Semlar | unless you're trying to make sure that they contain specific values |
| 21:55.19 | Semlar | i guess it doesn't even matter what you match on the last capture |
| 21:55.27 | Constie | The only problem I have with the default bags now is the space they take up on the screen because of each individual bag having art around it. |
| 21:55.50 | foxlit | well, knowing that tonumber wonât throw up on me would be nice. |
| 21:55.57 | Constie | Bank is also kind of annoying to use, but maybe I'm just missing some easy way to open all those bags. |
| 21:56.10 | Jamash | the open all bags button opens all bags |
| 21:56.15 | kd3 | hit shift+b twice while the bank's open |
| 21:56.32 | Semlar | foxlit: is there a reason to use tonumber instead of just + 0 |
| 21:56.36 | Constie | Well, then. |
| 21:56.46 | foxlit | base 16, Semlar. |
| 21:57.01 | Semlar | are you actually using the spawn id for something? |
| 21:57.59 | foxlit | Formatting it with %06X. |
| 21:58.44 | Simca | <foxlit> Semlar: because splitting on - is silly when you donât know how many parts youâre splitting things into. |
| 21:58.58 | Simca | encapture the split in a table with {} and access parts logically |
| 21:59.16 | Semlar | that would be a lot of overhead |
| 21:59.24 | Simca | it really isn't |
| 21:59.57 | Simca | it's like a single if statement to check if table[1] == "Player" |
| 22:00.03 | Simca | and everything else uses the same format |
| 22:00.32 | Semlar | yeah, but creating the table every time you check out a guid would be creating garbage and whatever it takes to actually create a table |
| 22:01.19 | nevcairiel | if you know you always want teh first part, why can't you just assign it to a variable, whats the table good for |
| 22:01.44 | Semlar | he wants other parts |
| 22:01.45 | nevcairiel | local a, b, c = split(..) isnt any different to {split}[3] |
| 22:02.05 | nevcairiel | use a worker function that takes a vararg list! |
| 22:02.18 | Semlar | tries to calm nevcairiel down |
| 22:02.25 | Simca | that's more overhead than the table |
| 22:02.35 | nevcairiel | a call overhead, no garbage tho |
| 22:02.48 | nevcairiel | since you can reuse the function |
| 22:03.20 | Neffi | <Simca> that's more overhead than the table <- [citation needed] |
| 22:03.27 | Neffi | all in all I wouldn't say so |
| 22:04.17 | Semlar | all i know is i managed to cripple the game trying to create a bunch of tables instead of just using select statements for something or other |
| 22:05.04 | Neffi | Cripple the game? more was probably involved than creating tables |
| 22:05.53 | foxlit | look, I just wanted to know what doesnât match this, because apparently I canât reproduce it again. |
| 22:06.39 | foxlit | the âwhy didnât you paint your bike shed purple/orange?â discussion isnât that interesting. |
| 22:07.08 | Fisker | I painted mine light blue |
| 22:07.10 | Simca | they're both good colors |
| 22:08.35 | Fisker | I'm going to sleep for real now though? |
| 22:08.39 | foxlit | in practical terms, the performance difference is incosequential. I just happen to like patterns, and I feel like this one protects me from the next time they decide to change the component separator. |
| 22:09.55 | Neffi | will it protect you from the next time they decide to change another part of the GUID structure? |
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| 22:10.47 | foxlit | as long as the format is still (Guid type)#â¦#(class id)#(spawn id), sure. |
| 22:10.51 | Neffi | instead of trying to use a flexible pattern, put a more specific pattern in a constant at the top of the file |
| 22:10.57 | Neffi | change it on patch day |
| 22:10.59 | Neffi | if needed |
| 22:11.16 | foxlit | ⦠or I could use this pattern. And maybe not have to change it on patch day. |
| 22:11.22 | foxlit | BECAUSE I LIKE MY BIKE SHEDS GREEN. |
| 22:11.37 | Neffi | throws magenta paint on foxlit's bike shed |
| 22:11.40 | Neffi | fur is murder, foxlit |
| 22:12.15 | Semlar | Neffi: it was a stress test involving doing nothing but creating tables |
| 22:12.47 | Neffi | now make a stress test that moves a vararg list around a bunch of times and see how well the game holds up |
| 22:13.11 | Semlar | it was literally a test of creating tables versus using select and tables actually froze the game |
| 22:13.21 | Neffi | then your implementation is bad |
| 22:13.33 | Neffi | also looping with select is bad |
| 22:13.49 | Neffi | if you want to avoid table creation, at least use recursion |
| 22:14.02 | Semlar | all i'm saying is there's definitely overhead to creating tables |
| 22:15.41 | Neffi | Semlar: it all really depends on the situation. there are tradeoffs. I got curious and ran a test. see https://gist.github.com/058816cc6bca1a5fde2a |
| 22:18.43 | foxlit | thatâs a nice benchmark harness you have there. |
| 22:18.44 | Neffi | oh, I omitted the functions. here they are https://gist.github.com/6ddaa23b27e84f73fa6e |
| 22:18.55 | foxlit | [if only we knew what it was you were benchmarking.] |
| 22:19.17 | Neffi | a recursion-based implementation of tostringall() vs an array-based one. see the 2nd paste |
| 22:19.47 | foxlit | itâs in square brackets because your link addresses it. |
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| 22:31.31 | Neffi | hey Semlar, what should I get for dinner? |
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| 22:32.55 | TC-Work | Food. |
| 22:33.09 | kd3 | thanks dad |
| 22:33.15 | Neffi | chuckles |
| 22:33.17 | TC-Work | Welcome son. |
| 22:34.53 | Gragagrogog | i've heard roadkills are in the season |
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| 22:55.46 | phelps | do want |
| 22:55.46 | phelps | https://www.apple.com/imac-with-retina/ |
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| 23:17.01 | karl_w_w | so i have stock android on my rooted nexus 4. when android gets updated can I use the OTA update, and does it remove the root? |
| 23:17.07 | karl_w_w | maybe Fisker knows |
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| 23:21.07 | DJJeff | putting the quest log into the map is kinda pissing me off |
| 23:21.11 | DJJeff | sad face |
| 23:21.47 | nevcairiel | get http://www.wowace.com/addons/legacy-quest/ |
| 23:22.14 | DJJeff | karl_w_w, all nexus devices have unlocked bootloaders |
| 23:22.40 | DJJeff | can always boot up clockwork mod recovery and push the SU binary into /system/xbin |
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| 23:23.03 | DJJeff | and do the chmod on it thats what I do |
| 23:23.25 | DJJeff | any ETA on tom tom? |
| 23:23.31 | Primer | Why can't they just give you root then? |
| 23:23.42 | Primer | Without having to jump through hoops |
| 23:23.47 | karl_w_w | ETA has been a feature of tomtom for a while now ;) |
| 23:24.00 | Primer | BA DUM TISH! |
| 23:24.11 | DJJeff | jump through hoops? takes like 5 min to root a nexus device |
| 23:24.20 | Primer | but you have to reboot it |
| 23:24.23 | karl_w_w | yes but it wipes your device |
| 23:24.29 | Primer | and install a different boot loader |
| 23:24.33 | Primer | to me that's jumping through hoops |
| 23:24.35 | DJJeff | when you unlock the bootloader yes it does |
| 23:24.54 | DJJeff | thats why you make.... dum dum dum *backups* |
| 23:25.00 | Primer | an option for "install suid root su" in setting would take 2 seconds |
| 23:25.10 | karl_w_w | and then pray to god the backups save everything |
| 23:25.28 | Primer | naw, you shouldn't have to wipe the device to do that |
| 23:26.05 | Primer | I recently rooted my Galaxy S3 with this towel thing |
| 23:26.40 | karl_w_w | a towel? did you dream this and the galaxy s3 turned out to be a hooker? :P |
| 23:26.41 | Primer | http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/06/15/towelroot-apk-by-geohot-can-root-the-verizon-and-att-galaxy-s5-and-s4-active-and-maybe-almost-any-other-current-device/ |
| 23:27.01 | Primer | install apk, click, done |
| 23:27.12 | Primer | I did while driving too |
| 23:27.34 | karl_w_w | what a criminal |
| 23:27.58 | DJJeff | people who do not know how to root their device should not have root |
| 23:28.19 | Primer | serious? |
| 23:28.20 | DJJeff | you can do dangerious and destructive things with root |
| 23:28.56 | Primer | pfft |
| 23:29.00 | DJJeff | and besides android uses java and java is the most insecure P O S I have ever seen |
| 23:29.02 | Primer | like you said, you have backups, right? |
| 23:29.28 | DJJeff | I run ubuntu touch OS on my nexus 5 device I am happy |
| 23:29.28 | Primer | If all else fails, factory restore |
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| 23:29.50 | Primer | Unless you manage to brick it, of course |
| 23:30.00 | DJJeff | thats why I love the nexus devices its actually hard to brick |
| 23:30.25 | DJJeff | just open of the bootloader... "fastboot boot <insert recovery here>.img" |
| 23:31.04 | DJJeff | if you replace the bootloader yes you will brick the nexus |
| 23:32.31 | karl_w_w | I think it's unfair to call any dead device bricked these days |
| 23:32.47 | karl_w_w | tiled maybe |
| 23:32.53 | Primer | I've had my S3 for quite a while before I rooted it. I just needed an access point while traveling with the kids once, so I rooted it, and voilà |
| 23:33.49 | Primer | Gragagrogog: hey, just got your message regarding DirectionArrow. I've totally abandoned that. |
| 23:34.01 | karl_w_w | all in favour of switching to the term 'tiled' to better reflect the shape of modern portable electronics? :P |
| 23:34.03 | Primer | But I suppose it would not be too hard to make it work in 6.0 |
| 23:34.33 | Primer | Especially since I've worked out the bearing math for UnitPosition() |
| 23:34.55 | Gragagrogog | Primer: could you just set the packager so it packages alphas ? |
| 23:35.02 | Primer | sure |
| 23:35.03 | DJJeff | geohot the guy that jailbroke the iphone has rooted the SGS5 |
| 23:35.07 | Gragagrogog | ok, thx |
| 23:35.11 | DJJeff | galaxy s 5 |
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| 23:35.29 | DJJeff | geohots is one smart cookie |
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| 23:36.54 | Primer | Gragagrogog: done |
| 23:40.27 | DJJeff | I like how dialog gets a volume slider |
| 23:40.37 | DJJeff | blizzard should give addons a volume slider |
| 23:40.48 | DJJeff | *sigh* only a pipe dream |
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