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| 00:25.19 | infamousX | Semlar I don't understand what your reply on my thread means, could you explain? |
| 00:25.50 | Semlar | you have a backdrop on your parent frame |
| 00:25.59 | Semlar | it has a border |
| 00:26.09 | Semlar | all of your buttons also have borders |
| 00:26.56 | Semlar | the first marker button that's being created is anchored 1px above the top left edge of the parent frame |
| 00:27.22 | Semlar | so what you're seeing is the border from the button, and the border from the parent frame directly under it |
| 00:27.50 | Semlar | there is almost no point in the parent frame having a backdrop |
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| 00:28.01 | infamousX | ok, makes more sense |
| 00:28.25 | infamousX | so do I just take those lines out of the code? |
| 00:28.46 | infamousX | EasyMarkerFrame:SetBackdropColor(.1, .1, .1, .8); |
| 00:28.49 | infamousX | and EasyMarkerFrame:SetBackdropBorderColor(0, 0, 0, .8); |
| 00:29.09 | Semlar | well, you either need to change the anchor code to check if it's the first button being created and move it down 1px |
| 00:30.00 | Semlar | or just remove the border from the parent frame's backdrop |
| 00:30.11 | Semlar | and add a border to the last button in the frame because it doesn't have one |
| 00:30.34 | Semlar | i don't think that's even a button |
| 00:30.40 | Semlar | the "click to drag" portion |
| 00:32.13 | Semlar | if i were making this i'd just make the drag part the visible portion of the parent frame and anchor all of the buttons to the top of that |
| 00:33.14 | Semlar | not try and make the parent frame fit around the conents |
| 00:33.17 | Semlar | contents |
| 00:33.28 | infamousX | problem is I didn't make it. I'm just editing this code from the original author |
| 00:33.48 | Semlar | yeah and you changed the way it looks |
| 00:33.58 | Semlar | he probably had a reason for doing it his way |
| 00:34.17 | infamousX | I guess this could be my first addon and I could just write it differently |
| 00:36.25 | infamousX | although that could be problematic because it'd be pretty much the same thing... |
| 00:36.28 | Semlar | the *cause* of the issue is the part that makes the buttons overlap the button above it |
| 00:38.11 | Semlar | the simplest solution would be to treat the first button differently than the rest |
| 00:39.22 | Semlar | like if btnName == "EWM_BlueFlareSet" then y = 0 instead of 1 |
| 00:43.25 | Semlar | infamousX: http://pastebin.com/8B3AYKWL |
| 00:45.12 | Semlar | you'll probably run into aliasing issues with pixel perfect borders but that's a separate problem |
| 00:47.08 | infamousX | Thanks, that worked! What is the and 0 or 1 for though? |
| 00:47.58 | Semlar | if it's the blue flare button then its y offset is 0, otherwise it's 1 |
| 00:49.09 | infamousX | cool! sorry I suck at this lol |
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| 00:49.27 | Semlar | you're trying to avoid anchoring the blue flare button above the top edge of the frame |
| 00:49.43 | Semlar | all the other buttons are anchored so that their top edge overlaps the bottom edge of the button above it |
| 00:49.52 | Semlar | but you don't want the first button to do that |
| 00:51.05 | infamousX | right. I understand now. |
| 00:51.07 | infamousX | thanks! |
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| 01:23.13 | Ressy | This... is.. ridiculous. |
| 01:23.22 | Ressy | 18GB for the Live background downloader patch |
| 01:28.33 | Gethe | well they do need to convert it to the new data format |
| 01:30.16 | Stanzilla | they are not converting |
| 01:30.21 | Stanzilla | they are just downloading everything |
| 01:30.26 | Stanzilla | which is the problem |
| 01:31.18 | [TOM_RUS] | it says 15.6 GB for me |
| 01:31.36 | Ressy | yup. No conversion. Just redonwloading entire game. |
| 01:31.45 | Ressy | totally ridiculous |
| 01:32.01 | Ressy | not to mention, it ignores background download speed cap.. |
| 01:32.16 | Simca_ | it's just a poor background download setup |
| 01:32.27 | Ressy | maxes out multiple cores on creating the files.. |
| 01:32.29 | Simca_ | the MPQ to CASC conversion worked fine for PTR |
| 01:32.35 | Ressy | and Beta. |
| 01:33.02 | Simca_ | but you're not installing WoD Live, you're background downloading it, so it doesn't do the conversion, it just sees missing data |
| 01:33.28 | Simca_ | it's dumb - they shouldn't have bothered to deploy the background downloader until they spent more effort on making it CASC compliant |
| 01:33.51 | Fisker | :( Simca_ |
| 01:34.21 | Semlar | is that where my space is going |
| 01:36.05 | [TOM_RUS] | you will enjoy wasted space once it live :D client size grows by few gigabytes every new build |
| 01:36.21 | Semlar | my ssd is not going to be able to take that |
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| 01:44.17 | Stanzilla | MysticalOS did a long post on it http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14579447812?page=1#0 |
| 01:45.07 | kd3|hate`net | 58Gbeta/Data/ |
| 01:45.09 | kd3|hate`net | sigh |
| 01:47.10 | Ressy | WOOT |
| 01:47.15 | Ressy | They disabled the background download |
| 01:47.22 | Ressy | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14579837851?page=2#25 |
| 01:47.37 | [TOM_RUS] | because its broken I guess |
| 01:49.15 | infamousX | I have like 10GB left on my OS SSD |
| 01:49.17 | MysticalOS | it is way broken |
| 01:49.20 | MysticalOS | it didn't migrate shit |
| 01:49.22 | MysticalOS | downloading whole game |
| 01:49.28 | MysticalOS | "too big" |
| 01:50.01 | infamousX | does Minion have to be installed in AppData?? |
| 01:50.17 | Ressy | I'd say that's too big.. Some internet plans here in Canada are only 20GB/month. |
| 01:50.21 | Ressy | and they wanted to download 18gb |
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| 01:51.46 | Cruciformer | Howdy folks |
| 01:52.52 | Cruciformer | Shadowed: you around by any chance? |
| 01:54.06 | Stanzilla | "After discovering issues with the size of the download, however, we have deactivated it for the time being." |
| 01:54.14 | Stanzilla | that has to be the worst excuse I ever read |
| 01:54.57 | infamousX | Does anyone else have Minion installed?? |
| 01:55.01 | Stanzilla | no |
| 01:55.23 | Cruciformer | I do but not for wow I used it for eso when I played that |
| 01:56.49 | infamousX | For some reason it's telling me to "update" my addons but the "updated" versions that it wants me to download are actually older versions than the ones I have. |
| 01:57.10 | Ressy | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14579837851?page=2#29 |
| 01:57.17 | Cruciformer | now you comprehend why I dont use minion for my addons :) |
| 01:57.18 | Ressy | BIG +1 to that |
| 01:58.41 | kd3 | us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14579837851?page=3#47 |
| 01:59.06 | kd3 | grr, firefox. stop stripping the http bit from middle-mouse copies |
| 01:59.18 | kd3 | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14579837851?page=3#47 |
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| 02:00.54 | Cruciformer | kd3: its always the cording being blamed :) |
| 02:01.00 | Stanzilla | hate them so much right now |
| 02:02.05 | Cruciformer | anyone else here use SuF by any chance? |
| 02:02.13 | Stanzilla | Shadowed is |
| 02:02.31 | Cruciformer | yes but I already asked if he was here and he doesn't appear to be :) |
| 02:04.24 | Fisker | Hey kd3 |
| 02:04.32 | kd3 | 'lo |
| 02:04.40 | Cruciformer | hey fisker ltns |
| 02:04.42 | Stanzilla | Kemayo: what are the plans for bankstack in wod? make it use their function for sorting? |
| 02:08.03 | Cruciformer | BTW does anyone know if there is a list of Lua changes for WoD floating around? |
| 02:08.14 | Simca | Ressy: heh I think I know why it didn't work |
| 02:08.17 | Cruciformer | I guess I should get ready to update my stupid mod |
| 02:08.24 | Simca | i.e. why it downloaded 18 GB |
| 02:08.29 | Simca | instead of 9 GB |
| 02:08.31 | kd3 | I've been sending my usual diff emails... |
| 02:08.40 | Simca | the locale is set in .build.info |
| 02:08.45 | kd3 | also, http://wowpedia.org/Patch_6.0.2/API_changes |
| 02:09.07 | Cruciformer | kd3 How do I go about receiving diff mails? that sounds useful |
| 02:09.11 | Simca | but .build.info only exists for NGDP-enabled games, and WoW live is not one of them |
| 02:09.16 | kd3 | ./msg me your email address |
| 02:09.33 | Semlar | diffs kd3 |
| 02:10.21 | Fisker | So tired |
| 02:11.05 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
| 02:11.09 | Stanzilla | hi |
| 02:13.11 | Fisker | Hey |
| 02:13.22 | Stanzilla | soup |
| 02:13.59 | Stanzilla | gotham soon |
| 02:14.36 | Simca | Zarhym's post sounds like "I kind of sort of vaguely understand what I'm talking about." |
| 02:18.03 | fewyn | CMs never know what they are talking about |
| 02:18.07 | Fisker | I want sleep Stanzilla |
| 02:18.08 | fewyn | we just generate stuff out of the ether |
| 02:18.36 | Fisker | What is he saying Simca ? |
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| 02:47.18 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/kdTRYCu.gif |
| 02:55.50 | kd3 | the safe word is "404": http://i.imgur.com/RZHCtoZ.jpg |
| 02:56.29 | Semlar | come to flex neffi |
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| 03:10.41 | Neffi | that doesnt sound appealing, Semlar |
| 03:10.56 | Neffi | none of my characters are geared for raiding anyway |
| 03:11.19 | Semlar | i'm sad for you neffi |
| 03:11.31 | Semlar | that's why you should come |
| 03:11.33 | Neffi | I'm not. DPSing on a rogue or druid is not fun |
| 03:12.17 | Semlar | i don't believe you! |
| 03:12.54 | Neffi | oh look at that. sub lapses in 10 days |
| 03:31.30 | Jamash | kd3: Cat5 o' 9 tails? |
| 03:32.59 | kd3 | hah |
| 03:33.08 | Arrowmaster | is it bad that i want to make one of those but know the rj45 connectors on the ends would make it so i could never use it |
| 03:33.37 | Arrowmaster | gotta figure out a different way to do the ends |
| 03:36.35 | Jamash | Arrowmaster: always use protection http://www.vpi.us/rj45-covers.html |
| 03:37.22 | Arrowmaster | i was also just talking to somebody the other day about trying to figure out a way to remove the fiber core while leaving the outer jacket in place to use fiber optic cables without the danger |
| 03:37.44 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: still looks sharp |
| 03:37.55 | Jamash | Arrowmaster: you could sand the corners |
| 03:38.25 | Jamash | or apply some material on top of the cap |
| 03:39.16 | Neffi | be careful getting kinky with fiber cables! |
| 03:39.36 | Jamash | ~rimshot |
| 03:39.36 | purl | badum-TISH! |
| 03:39.47 | Arrowmaster | Neffi: exactly why we were discussing how to remove the actual fiber |
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| 03:40.55 | Jamash | Arrowmaster: at that point aren't you just using a plastic hose? |
| 03:41.01 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 03:41.33 | Arrowmaster | ive seen worse though, floggers made of weedeater line and plastic oxygen tubing |
| 03:41.43 | Thunder_Child | Well that was an interesting comment to join to. |
| 03:42.17 | Jamash | Thunder_Child: context http://i.imgur.com/RZHCtoZ.jpg |
| 03:42.44 | Thunder_Child | Aww, it's more amusing sans context. |
| 03:43.10 | Thunder_Child | Yea, I saw that this morning. Cat 'o RJ45 |
| 03:43.28 | Neffi | so many people making the same joke |
| 03:43.42 | Arrowmaster | one like this would be more usable http://i42.tinypic.com/2lx77ly.jpg |
| 03:44.05 | Thunder_Child | It's not a joke per se, that is what it is modled after. |
| 03:44.19 | Thunder_Child | modeled* |
| 03:44.26 | Jamash | TC: Cat5 o' 9 tails |
| 03:44.40 | Thunder_Child | Except it's more than 9 tails |
| 03:44.46 | Thunder_Child | I see at least 10 |
| 03:44.46 | Jamash | shush |
| 03:44.49 | Jamash | PUNS |
| 03:44.57 | Jamash | more important than facts |
| 03:45.04 | Arrowmaster | the handle is what really stands out |
| 03:45.16 | Thunder_Child | ...I will hunt you down and kill you for that remark. |
| 03:45.28 | Arrowmaster | somebody put some real work into it instead of just throwing something together as a joke |
| 03:46.25 | Jamash | I've seen ones designed as a practical network admin tool, with ethernet patch, ethernet crossover, phone, etc |
| 03:49.10 | Arrowmaster | i just had a nasty thought of using STP instead of UTP to make an electrical toy |
| 03:49.45 | Arrowmaster | should probably shutup soon |
| 03:51.39 | Jamash | Arrowmaster: http://www.fiftythree.org/etherkiller/ |
| 03:52.41 | Arrowmaster | ive accidentally done the drive killer before |
| 03:53.01 | Arrowmaster | blew up a floppy drive when i didnt have the power pins lined up right |
| 03:53.52 | Jamash | I learned why you never work on a laptop with it plugged in |
| 03:54.01 | Jamash | turns out the power pins to the video card are live |
| 03:54.04 | Jamash | well, were live |
| 03:54.18 | Jamash | I got blue sparks like mario kart |
| 03:54.44 | Jamash | in other news, I need a new laptop |
| 03:54.59 | kd3 | the magic smoke got let out? |
| 03:55.05 | Jamash | big time |
| 03:55.49 | Jamash | I'd been trying to fix it for month with little success, I got really frustrated one day, and blooey |
| 03:55.52 | Jamash | *months |
| 03:55.58 | Jamash | all that work down the tubes |
| 03:56.43 | Arrowmaster | yeah i was trying to blindly plug in a floppy drive on a system that was powered on at the time and the magic smoke got let out of the drive |
| 03:56.57 | Jamash | floppies are not hotplug compatible |
| 03:57.09 | Neffi | apparently |
| 03:57.15 | Jamash | well, usb ones are, but I mean ribbon cable |
| 03:57.36 | Arrowmaster | i didnt care i just wanted everything plugged in so i could close it up |
| 03:57.47 | Jamash | I mean *really* not compatible |
| 03:57.51 | Jamash | as in, what you just said |
| 03:58.27 | Arrowmaster | no what happened was i had the floppy power connector misaligned so i sent 12v down the ground pin or something |
| 03:58.51 | Arrowmaster | while it was powered |
| 04:00.15 | Neffi | http://imgur.com/gallery/TdTsJ heh |
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| 04:06.24 | Neffi | asking the fios help if I can throw a splitter on the coaxial feeding my router to move the set top box into the same room. they've now asked me to confirm that I'm the account holder 3 times for "security reasons". |
| 04:06.36 | Neffi | apparently people are breaking into houses and putting splitters on their internet lines |
| 04:06.53 | Arrowmaster | fios router uses coax? |
| 04:07.00 | Neffi | yeah |
| 04:07.18 | Neffi | well the external box I believe is the *real* router, this thing just being a switch+AP |
| 04:07.34 | Neffi | and that and the STBs are connected to the external router via coax |
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| 04:07.36 | Jamash | Neffi: http://aqua-teen-hunger-force.wikia.com/wiki/Universal_Remonster_%28episode%29 ? |
| 04:08.16 | Jamash | brewfest, yo |
| 04:08.41 | Neffi | also gonna see if I can coerce them into a free speed bump by threatening to switch to the competition. wish me luck! :D |
| 04:09.33 | Jamash | tell them you've heard comcast has better customer service XD |
| 04:09.37 | infamousX | does strikethrough not work on WoWI? |
| 04:09.49 | infamousX | [S][/S] ? |
| 04:10.53 | Neffi | Jamash: Their competition here is Time Warner, which is actually rated worse than Comcast! |
| 04:10.59 | Neffi | And might be bought by Comcast soon |
| 04:12.25 | infamousX | nvm. guess it doesn't support it even tho it uses vB code. whatevs |
| 04:12.38 | Neffi | In fact Time Warner got rated the single worst for customer satisfaction in the country. So I'm certainly not gonna switch for ~20% more (advertised) speed. But they dont have to know that |
| 04:15.57 | infamousX | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=297098#post297098 - in case anyone wants to be awesome, I'm more worried about the first question being answered than the second. third is solved |
| 04:16.06 | Neffi | In fact my real speed is already almost 70% above what I signed up for. Time Warner tends to only reach about 70% advertised speed in real world heh |
| 04:18.30 | Simca | <infamousX> does strikethrough not work on WoWI? |
| 04:18.36 | Simca | sites without strikethrough make me sadface |
| 04:19.02 | Simca | though at least it's better than the official forums, where they haven't even figured out that CTRL+B should bold things. |
| 04:20.08 | Simca | maybe they're afraid that their Bold bind would accidentally override some user's manual CTRL+B = Buy Baloney binding |
| 04:20.42 | Gethe | ^ a travisty to be sure |
| 04:30.27 | Torhal | Simca: Or they're afraid people will use it on every word, much like some use six of each punctuation because, you know, people will understand what they're saying better. |
| 04:30.48 | Torhal | You understand?!?!?!?!? |
| 04:33.38 | Neffi | i understand.................... ;DDDD |
| 04:36.47 | Torhal | huehuehues Neffi. |
| 04:37.08 | Semlar | tries to calm torhal down |
| 04:37.24 | Torhal | hypes Semlar up. |
| 04:37.33 | Semlar | explodes |
| 04:38.44 | Neffi | easy there. he's an excitable little explosive |
| 04:45.54 | Semlar | i'm all better now |
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| 04:54.22 | Thunder_Child | Right, just brush off the fact that you exploded.... |
| 04:56.08 | Neffi | happens all the time, really |
| 04:56.13 | Neffi | you should see him in raids |
| 04:56.16 | Semlar | you get used to it |
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| 05:13.46 | smcn | it's really comical how i always do the worst in arena when i pick mage |
| 05:14.33 | smcn | and yet mages are my bane when i get 4 or more wins |
| 05:14.38 | Mr_Rabies | can't you level blacksmithing just with ghost iron now or something? :o |
| 05:14.48 | smcn | Mr_Rabies: yes |
| 05:15.04 | smcn | and in wod you can level every profession in wod regardless of skill |
| 05:15.11 | smcn | lol wow that sentence |
| 05:15.11 | Mr_Rabies | how does that work? about to drop jcing on mine and pick up bs since it's so cheap right now |
| 05:15.25 | smcn | idk tbh, never done it |
| 05:15.29 | smcn | i just know you can |
| 05:15.44 | Neffi | I think there's a Wowhead guide on it, Mr_Rabies |
| 05:16.04 | Torhal | There isn't a WoWHead guide, however, for Semlar. |
| 05:16.58 | Semlar | it's probably for the best |
| 05:17.01 | Mr_Rabies | i'll probably still use babby mats but my AH is basically dead |
| 05:17.07 | Mr_Rabies | so i'll fill with ghost iron as needed |
| 05:17.17 | Neffi | Mr_Rabies: it appears you learn recipes at the vendor which take Ghost Iron Bar |
| 05:17.18 | Neffi | http://www.wowhead.com/news=210415/5-2-ptr-blacksmithing-leveling-revamp-megaera-video |
| 05:18.04 | Neffi | Mr_Rabies: "These training projects, such as Training Project: Ghost Iron Wok, can be learnt by players level 85 or higher, from Pandaria trainers in Vale of Eternal Blossoms: (NPC #64085) and (NPC #64058). Upon learning the skill, they will have the quest (Quest #32683) for you. " |
| 05:18.14 | Mr_Rabies | ah okay neat |
| 05:18.26 | Neffi | wowhead is crazy, but you get the gist |
| 05:18.31 | Neffi | lots of links broken since WoD |
| 05:18.36 | Mr_Rabies | wish there was an easy way to compare my professions between chars |
| 05:18.50 | Mr_Rabies | i have jc on two chars, as i was planning on dropping it on my dk and picking it up on my monk |
| 05:18.56 | Mr_Rabies | then picking up bs on my dk |
| 05:19.02 | Neffi | doesn't Skillet store your prof data across chars so you can browse it? |
| 05:19.14 | Mr_Rabies | but i'm not 100% sure which patterns i do and don't have comparing the two |
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| 05:22.32 | smcn | altoholic maybe? never used it for profs |
| 05:22.42 | Mr_Rabies | altoholic does, but it's not really easy to compare |
| 05:22.54 | Mr_Rabies | hmm, maybe i could get a list and run a diff or something |
| 05:23.10 | Mr_Rabies | eh gems are cheap enough |
| 05:23.12 | smcn | hashtag programmer solutions |
| 05:23.16 | Mr_Rabies | gonna just unlearn it and stop caring |
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| 05:24.00 | smcn | btw wow-professions.com is pretty good for prof leveling guides if you need one |
| 05:25.54 | smcn | oh yay two pyroblasts in my hand on turn 4 that's real useful |
| 05:32.30 | smcn | lol those 2 pyros might just win me the game |
| 05:33.56 | smcn | fyi they did |
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| 05:40.30 | smcn | omg and another 2x pyro wins me |
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| 06:29.20 | Miiru | put a banana in your ear |
| 06:32.56 | smcn | Miiru: i've heard of banana-mouth but never banana-ear |
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| 06:42.03 | smcn | i've taken to using "Sorry" emote to hunters at the beginning of every match b/c of starving buzzard nerf to the ground |
| 06:47.18 | Miiru | i wonder if one day blizzard will the time zone my pc is set to and then show me the time when servers will be up again correctly |
| 06:47.28 | Miiru | instead of something like servers back up at 10 pst |
| 06:47.38 | Miiru | more likr gmt -.- |
| 06:51.24 | Constie | That'd be neat. |
| 06:51.50 | Miiru | ok if i set the language to german, the time is shown correctly |
| 07:04.23 | Mr_Rabies | welp |
| 07:04.39 | Mr_Rabies | i just bought all the iron on the AH |
| 07:04.49 | Mr_Rabies | and still need tons more for leveling bs using it |
| 07:04.57 | Mr_Rabies | time to swap to ghost iron for that i guess |
| 07:06.52 | Constie | I want to make a Jeeves on my boosted 90, but it requires 8 titansteel bars and those only exist on my AH in the form of a stack of 20 for 4.5k gold. |
| 07:07.48 | Constie | Which I would buy and just resell the extra 12, but I don't get the impression I'll ever actually get rid of them. |
| 07:08.10 | Mr_Rabies | make your own! |
| 07:08.17 | Mr_Rabies | or well |
| 07:08.21 | smcn | opportunity cost |
| 07:08.22 | Mr_Rabies | find a blacksmith that can smelt it |
| 07:08.45 | Constie | I'm seriously considering transferring my miner/blacksmith over just for this. |
| 07:08.52 | smcn | lol |
| 07:08.59 | Mr_Rabies | you can almost definitely find someone in your guild to do it for free |
| 07:09.02 | Mr_Rabies | with mats |
| 07:09.37 | Constie | I haven't checked, but I doubt the raw mats availability is much better. |
| 07:09.42 | Mr_Rabies | it's 24x Titanium Bar 8x Eternal Fire, Earth, Shadow |
| 07:09.49 | Mr_Rabies | for 8 titansteel |
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| 07:25.06 | Miiru | the titanium transmutage proccs pretty good though |
| 07:36.36 | znf | hetzner hosting issues, anyone? |
| 07:36.49 | Fisker | no |
| 07:37.55 | Shirik | I'll show you my hosting issues |
| 07:38.00 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 07:38.28 | Neffi | lol http://youtu.be/ivn4HPHalU0 |
| 07:38.59 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 07:39.04 | Fisker | Come to blizzcon with me |
| 07:40.42 | znf | *shrug* |
| 07:40.46 | znf | one of my servers is not working |
| 07:40.47 | znf | no idea |
| 07:40.51 | znf | no ping reply |
| 07:40.55 | znf | oh well |
| 07:40.58 | znf | goes to sleep |
| 07:42.20 | Shirik | Neffi: I am so sad colbert is leaving |
| 07:42.25 | Neffi | aye! |
| 07:43.39 | Fisker | Well I did dc a few minutes ago znf |
| 07:43.46 | Fisker | But did you check their status? |
| 07:44.05 | Fisker | Urgent maintenance work will be carried out on vHosts 188, 334 during the above-mentioned period, whereby these - and the vServers which run on them - will be inaccessible for a short period of time. |
| 08:03.47 | karl_w_w | VIad, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbPwEoYUH30 |
| 08:05.42 | karl_w_w | so much violence |
| 08:11.54 | Neffi | So DisplayPort can now go over USB (type C), including the AUX channel, which can optionally carry a USB signal |
| 08:11.56 | Neffi | yo dawg |
| 08:13.12 | Stanzilla | which is pretty neat |
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| 08:28.50 | smcn | ever wanted to see the results of too much vodka to drink? bam there it is: http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/59316-legendary-rushinos-demolisher-druid?comment=310 |
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| 08:44.39 | Miiru | <3 wowinterface attachement history |
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| 11:33.57 | zenzelezz | so I went to Rome for a few days. Made a few observations... first, a great number of the buildings really did look like Ezio could climb them; second, it usually didn't look safe to jump off roofs even if there were pigeons on the edge of the roof |
| 11:34.25 | nevcairiel | why would pigeons indicate safety |
| 11:34.36 | Constie | Well someone's not quite Assassin material. |
| 11:34.43 | zenzelezz | ^ |
| 11:34.57 | nevcairiel | even for a game that doesnt make any sense |
| 11:35.26 | zenzelezz | it doesn't, but they did it anyway so players would be able to more easily see where it was safe to jump |
| 11:35.37 | zenzelezz | handy if you're trying to escape across roofs and don't want to stop to look |
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| 11:43.29 | sb | did they have any pile of hay? |
| 11:43.33 | kullervo | zenzelezz: pretty lame dumbing down imho |
| 11:44.31 | zenzelezz | sb: nope |
| 11:44.42 | zenzelezz | kullervo: agreed; but it doesn't change the fact :) |
| 11:47.02 | sb | zenzelezz: at least they have those fountains with drinking water - was really a surprise to me when they said "go on, fill your bottles, its fine" |
| 11:47.16 | kullervo | sb: it actually isn't :D |
| 11:47.29 | sb | oh.. |
| 11:47.34 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 11:47.57 | sb | whats wrong with it? |
| 11:48.24 | kullervo | it's not very clean by modern standards |
| 11:48.36 | mitch0 | ;) |
| 11:48.46 | mitch0 | all the gipsies pee in them |
| 11:48.55 | nevcairiel | probably still using ancient aquaducts to feed it |
| 11:48.59 | Workfoz | use your immune system, will you |
| 11:49.01 | kullervo | I was in Rome in 2003 or something and was quite directly told to not drink that |
| 11:49.17 | Workfoz | perhaps there was an issue in 2003! |
| 11:49.27 | Workfoz | literally decades ago :O |
| 11:49.38 | nevcairiel | well |
| 11:49.39 | nevcairiel | decade ago |
| 11:49.54 | Neffi | 1.1 is plural |
| 11:49.55 | Workfoz | current decade, other decade, decade 2003 is in! |
| 11:49.56 | sb | i was there 2007 i think, our teacher told us its perfectly fine - and no issues (maybe we had enough alcohol to kill those bacterias) |
| 11:51.25 | mitch0 | or your teacher wasn't particularly fond of you |
| 11:53.13 | Workfoz | I'm absent-mindedly typing on my switch tester now ^^ |
| 11:53.39 | nevcairiel | how many of each color did it include, just one? |
| 11:54.00 | Workfoz | yep |
| 11:54.02 | Workfoz | but 8 types |
| 11:54.20 | nevcairiel | might be nice to have at least two of each color, makes for a b it better testing if you can switch between two keys |
| 11:54.52 | Workfoz | possibly, yeah, but they are expensive enough as they are (for the almost one-time use it provides) |
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| 12:09.08 | Miiru | ok lets kill my pc by starting 2 instances of wow |
| 12:17.05 | Miiru | anybody here on ptr at the moment? |
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| 12:33.48 | kullervo | 2 instances of wow isn't much these days |
| 12:35.16 | Miiru | didnt work out anyway, starter accounts cant play on ptr :D |
| 12:35.31 | Fisker | approaches the Lopeppeppy with caution |
| 12:38.12 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, delicious mortal creature. |
| 12:42.40 | Fisker | Oh, I am mortal :( |
| 12:42.58 | Constie | Well, you don't know that. |
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| 13:15.31 | Lopeppeppy | He will after I barbeque him. Or well, he hopes he will know BEFORE I do that. |
| 13:16.24 | Fisker | Why are you putting me on the grill? |
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| 13:20.38 | Lopeppeppy | Breakfast bacon has to come from somewhere. |
| 13:21.46 | Fisker | whoa whoa whoa |
| 13:22.10 | Arrowmaster | but bacon |
| 13:22.33 | Fisker | bleeds profusely from his emotional wound |
| 13:24.58 | Industrial | hands Fisker a [Mghty Troll's Blood Elixir] |
| 13:25.03 | Industrial | +i |
| 13:27.24 | Lopeppeppy | Awww, Indie saves the day. |
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| 13:28.06 | jleclanch | tekkubby: i blame you for breaking my github streak |
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| 14:07.54 | Snowkrim | Hi, anyone not busy can help me fix a buggy script? Phelps was kind enough to write it for me, but it currently has a couple bugs, not sure how to solve |
| 14:07.58 | Snowkrim | http://codepad.org/bf6fyDOk |
| 14:08.13 | Snowkrim | if anyone interested to help can provide more detail on what's bugging |
| 14:08.16 | Snowkrim | :) |
| 14:19.40 | mitch0 | yeah, like it's sooo much fun decyphering that mess... |
| 14:20.19 | Arrowmaster | yeah not touching it |
| 14:24.43 | Snowkrim | not necessary to decipher it, perhaps it could be re-done from scratch, it's a fairly simple script just minified lots |
| 14:24.54 | Snowkrim | mitch0 arrowmaster |
| 14:25.08 | Snowkrim | i'm not sure what's easier in this case so :) |
| 14:25.39 | Snowkrim | this basically creates omnicc text timer for focus/target auras applied by player only |
| 14:25.43 | Snowkrim | that's what I'm looking for |
| 14:25.49 | Snowkrim | but this script I have now is really buggy.. |
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| 15:02.41 | g0urra | why is steam recommending Operation Flashpoint Dragon Rising |
| 15:02.42 | g0urra | sigh |
| 15:06.56 | Fisker | It provides the reason |
| 15:07.21 | Constie | Why would Blizzard decide to do server maintenance on the day that I feel like making a new UI? What are they thinking? |
| 15:09.41 | Miiru | they were probably watching this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5pj5ezs4O8 |
| 15:12.10 | Constie | That's just a regular German doing regular German stuff. |
| 15:12.26 | Miiru | hah :D |
| 15:13.51 | mikma | miiru: so goooooood |
| 15:14.09 | Miiru | :D |
| 15:14.19 | Miiru | i gotta admit i like das boot even more^ |
| 15:14.54 | Mr_Rabies | when in rome |
| 15:14.58 | Mr_Rabies | oh hey |
| 15:15.06 | Mr_Rabies | i was scrolled up, my awful joke is hours late |
| 15:15.07 | Mr_Rabies | :< |
| 15:15.38 | mikma | shit happens when you party naked |
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| 16:38.13 | kd3 | oh that's alarming, jquery.com got compromised. |
| 16:40.14 | haste | and no warning about on the page :D |
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| 16:42.08 | Semlar | library wasn't affected |
| 16:43.21 | haste | but it sounds like they were compromised, don't know how, and are still using the same server |
| 16:43.52 | Semlar | "powered by wordpress" |
| 16:44.15 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 16:44.19 | haste | hey Fisker |
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| 16:59.16 | Lopeppeppy | I read that as "powdered". Very different. |
| 16:59.42 | Fisker | that's some crack |
| 17:01.19 | Lopeppeppy | One crack two crack red crack blue crack. |
| 17:02.54 | Fisker | two blue cracks please |
| 17:03.01 | Fisker | I'm a criminal yo |
| 17:04.16 | Lopeppeppy | There may be an antibiotic for blue crack. Ask your doctor for a recommendation. |
| 17:04.24 | fewyn | http://www.polygon.com/2014/9/23/6833953/blizzard-cancels-titan-next-gen-mmo-pc |
| 17:04.26 | fewyn | saw that coming |
| 17:05.28 | Shirik | well that only cost them 7 man-years * developers |
| 17:05.54 | Shirik | Imagine working on that project for 7 years and then having it taken out from under you with a "yup, we don't like what you produced, so you just threw away 7 years of your life" |
| 17:06.03 | Fisker | :| |
| 17:06.08 | Fisker | Almost like original d3 Shirik |
| 17:06.20 | Fisker | Guess they figured out they'll never have something like WoW again |
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| 17:07.08 | Lopeppeppy | "We didn't find the fun. We didn't find the passion." |
| 17:07.08 | fewyn | they actually scrapped everything 2 years ago and canabilized the team down to just a small group to go back to the drawing board |
| 17:07.57 | Fisker | Yeah fewyn |
| 17:08.02 | Fisker | But it was still technically in development |
| 17:08.06 | fewyn | yeah |
| 17:08.09 | Shirik | my point is working on a project only to have someone come along and say "yup this is terrible" must be a miserable experience |
| 17:08.17 | fewyn | i saw this coming as soon as they announced they were going back to the drawing board |
| 17:08.26 | Shirik | well |
| 17:08.28 | Fisker | Well |
| 17:08.30 | Lopeppeppy | And demoralizing for the rest of the staff too, Shirik. What can happen to one team can happen to another. |
| 17:08.33 | Shirik | that violates rule #1 of software development |
| 17:08.35 | Fisker | They have done that with D3 and other stuff as well :D |
| 17:08.37 | Shirik | which is constantly violated |
| 17:08.42 | Shirik | but it still is bad |
| 17:08.47 | Fisker | What rule is that Shirik ? |
| 17:08.53 | Shirik | http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html |
| 17:09.08 | Simca | warcraft lord of the clans, starcraft ghost, blizzard is not afraid to waste dev time if they feel like it |
| 17:09.13 | Fisker | ah |
| 17:09.14 | fewyn | basically i've discovered if devs don't love the subject they are creating something for it's a waste |
| 17:09.49 | Mr_Rabies | to be fair, very little actual work was necessary for lord of the clans, on blizzard's end |
| 17:10.02 | Lopeppeppy | And if the company doesn't love what it will do for the bottom line, doesn't matter what the devs think, how passionate they are. |
| 17:10.03 | Mr_Rabies | the animation was all farmed out, wasn't it, and maybe even the game itself? |
| 17:10.26 | Fisker | I'm sad though |
| 17:10.30 | Fisker | I want an MMO to play |
| 17:10.35 | fewyn | yes but blizzard is a bit different than companies like EA |
| 17:10.50 | Fisker | Isn't a publisher for one fewyn :P |
| 17:11.01 | phelps | i see blizzard redoing art for the old content and making it fun again before they make a new mmo |
| 17:11.02 | fewyn | they are though |
| 17:11.06 | fewyn | as they are actiblizzard |
| 17:11.15 | Fisker | Blizzard are not actiblizzard |
| 17:11.22 | Mr_Rabies | they just canceled lord of the clans because it kinda sucked in general |
| 17:11.25 | Fisker | Activision + Vivendi (now -vivendi) are actiblizzard |
| 17:11.37 | fewyn | eh close enoguh |
| 17:11.50 | phelps | blizzard purchased their selfs from vevendi ? |
| 17:11.51 | fewyn | i don't think activision would mess that /much/ with blizzard |
| 17:11.58 | fewyn | something like that iirc phelps |
| 17:12.01 | Fisker | Activision purchased themself from Vivendi phelps |
| 17:12.07 | Mr_Rabies | the voice acting owns, though |
| 17:12.14 | Mr_Rabies | clancy brown, peter cullen, tony jay |
| 17:12.18 | Mr_Rabies | that's top notch stuff |
| 17:13.33 | Fisker | howeever Lopeppeppy the sky is falling |
| 17:13.39 | Fisker | we should totally go to the last blizzcon this year |
| 17:13.55 | Fisker | you too Shirik |
| 17:14.02 | Lopeppeppy | I will be cooking for a crowd and celebrating my birthday. |
| 17:14.11 | Mr_Rabies | clancy brown for thrall really fits pretty well |
| 17:14.15 | Fisker | wow that's nice of you Lopeppeppy |
| 17:14.23 | Mr_Rabies | wonder who he's gonna be in the Warcraft film :o |
| 17:14.24 | Fisker | Inviting your guests to disneyland |
| 17:14.30 | Fisker | :) |
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| 17:21.38 | Lopeppeppy | I don't even like Disneyland. |
| 17:22.55 | Fisker | me neither but your guests probably do |
| 17:22.56 | Fisker | :P |
| 17:23.03 | Fisker | is just super selfish |
| 17:31.30 | Dagmar | Good lord. It's time to take some clippers to the beta forum |
| 17:33.54 | Semlar | forum you say |
| 17:34.54 | Semlar | i would strongly recommend not reading any forum |
| 17:35.49 | Dagmar | I'm just looking at all this butthurt over the work orders and people quoting devs from twitter, followed by two posts later, another knob demanding an answer or explanation that was already given. |
| 17:36.10 | Semlar | why do that to yourself |
| 17:36.22 | Dagmar | because I wanted to know what state those were in |
| 17:36.37 | Semlar | yeah but why would you go to a forum to learn anything |
| 17:36.49 | Dagmar | If I don't know how the devs expect something to work, I can't very well report on whether it's actually doing that |
| 17:37.08 | Dagmar | Because people do actually post the details I'm looking for. |
| 17:37.29 | Dagmar | It's just that the other 90% of the posters don't even read the thread they're posting in |
| 17:38.39 | Semlar | trying to find a useful post in a forum is like trying to find a needle in a midden |
| 17:41.17 | Dagmar | That's what Google is good at separating |
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| 17:52.37 | Shirik | news flash: people are lazy |
| 18:02.36 | TC-Work | I am. |
| 18:02.47 | TC-Work | I find it to be not so bueno. |
| 18:04.12 | Fisker | Like that Shirik guy |
| 18:04.30 | Fisker | Should totally go to blizzcon |
| 18:07.06 | TC-Work | Why would Shirik want to go? He has self respect. |
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| 18:21.30 | Shirik | I'm pretty bueno |
| 18:24.51 | Fisker | You are pretty |
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| 18:42.05 | karl_w_w | what was that game that nearly killed consoles |
| 18:42.47 | Shirik | wow? |
| 18:44.12 | Gnarfoz | Tetris |
| 18:44.55 | karl_w_w | ah yes, ET |
| 18:45.19 | Semlar | half life 3 |
| 18:48.12 | Mr_Rabies | i've got ET :v |
| 18:48.40 | Mr_Rabies | it wasn't really ET's fault, per se, it was just the quality of games coming out in general was so poor that no one valued any games anymore |
| 18:49.45 | Arrowmaster | it nearly killed atari because they made something like 10million copys of a terrible game and barely sold any |
| 18:57.56 | Mr_Rabies | the game's barely playable |
| 18:57.57 | Fisker | hey Shirik mon |
| 18:58.28 | Mr_Rabies | watching someone speedrun it is akin to watching a snail break the sound barrier |
| 19:01.30 | Shirik | welp |
| 19:01.36 | Shirik | I have successfully broken osx |
| 19:02.24 | Shirik | I have somehow trashed the TCP stack |
| 19:02.57 | Fisker | good Shirik |
| 19:03.04 | Fisker | Lets use this knowledge for evil |
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| 19:28.05 | Mr_Rabies | getting tired of killing the AH while leveing blacksmithing, lol |
| 19:28.41 | Mr_Rabies | im still having to scavenge from alts but i'm buying just about every ore and bar on the AH |
| 19:30.10 | zenzelezz | so you don't have mining? |
| 19:31.21 | Mr_Rabies | i do, but i'm not gonna mine until i have to |
| 19:32.11 | zenzelezz | when the choice is mine or pay, I mine... but I guess I'm just greedy |
| 19:32.52 | zenzelezz | flying around whichever zone is relevant and crafting only the materially cheapest item over and over |
| 19:33.06 | zenzelezz | I must have made dozens of Adamantite Cleavers, or something like that |
| 19:33.42 | Mr_Rabies | it's opportunity cost |
| 19:34.01 | Mr_Rabies | rarely is it worth it to go out into the world and fight over mining nodes with whoever we're currently CRZed with in any given zone |
| 19:34.18 | Mr_Rabies | unless the AH is stupid expensive (which it totally can be) |
| 19:34.43 | Mr_Rabies | we don't have much supply at all |
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| 19:34.55 | Mr_Rabies | but we also can be CRZed with stormrage |
| 19:36.26 | Mr_Rabies | it takes way too long to get the 500, 1000, 5000, whatever, ore i need per ore type |
| 19:38.33 | Mr_Rabies | assuming it's going for a reasonable price, it's usually better to just buy it nowadays |
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| 19:40.28 | zenzelezz | what kind of items are you making to need that much ore? |
| 19:48.28 | Mr_Rabies | just leveling blacksmithing |
| 19:48.44 | Mr_Rabies | it takes a ton of ore, no matter how you do it |
| 19:49.00 | Mr_Rabies | i mean |
| 19:49.07 | Mr_Rabies | not that high starting out, of course |
| 19:49.18 | Mr_Rabies | but i'm already up to ~500 thorium bars needed to level through thorium |
| 19:50.02 | Mr_Rabies | each thorium bar is 1g, or i could spend like an hour or more farming 500g worth of ore |
| 19:51.10 | zenzelezz | I didn't find it to take that much ore when I levelled it |
| 19:51.22 | zenzelezz | but that's obviously subjective |
| 19:52.23 | Mr_Rabies | i'm using the wow-professions guide with my own insight provided to see if their choices make any sense |
| 19:52.36 | Mr_Rabies | it seems they move on as soon as something turns yellow, for some reason, so i skip around every other one |
| 19:52.45 | Mr_Rabies | and i also supplant my leveling with the ghost iron patterns |
| 19:55.58 | Mr_Rabies | i love how the crafting ui only supports up to 99 of something in the "you have this many" before turning to * |
| 19:56.58 | Mr_Rabies | still, in 2014 |
| 19:59.20 | zenzelezz | using that guide seems reasonable |
| 19:59.38 | karl_w_w | I tend to have about 8 browser tabs that stay open permanently, and I just restarted my browser and one of them redirected to a web hosting company and I can't remember what the tab was |
| 19:59.42 | zenzelezz | I just looked at everything that was yellow and picked whatever had the lowest cost, while still only requiring ore |
| 19:59.50 | karl_w_w | so that one's been open a while |
| 20:00.19 | Mr_Rabies | also i have a collection of patterns i've picked up but haven't been able to sell |
| 20:00.33 | Mr_Rabies | so i get patterns the guide's not meant to take into account |
| 20:00.37 | Mr_Rabies | like mithril spike |
| 20:00.55 | Mr_Rabies | 4 mithril bars each and goes longer than whatever it told me to make that uses 8 bars |
| 20:01.12 | Mr_Rabies | or mithril spurs, rather |
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| 20:03.54 | Mr_Rabies | buying so much thorium, lol |
| 20:03.56 | Mr_Rabies | at least it's cheap |
| 20:04.03 | Mr_Rabies | this is gonna get rough when i get to fel iron |
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| 20:11.18 | Mr_Rabies | yeah... i might farm some fel iron myself now |
| 20:11.27 | Mr_Rabies | it's 7g per bar, same per ore |
| 20:21.54 | foxlit | time taken to realize I typoed smtp as stmp: 12 minutes. |
| 20:22.54 | Fisker | :( |
| 20:31.04 | Alram | hey Silencer there's your real background download :p |
| 20:35.37 | Silencer | :P |
| 20:36.51 | Silencer | gonna check did they include binaries :P |
| 20:36.58 | Silencer | but I bet only datas |
| 20:37.06 | Alram | well |
| 20:37.08 | Alram | if they did |
| 20:37.14 | Alram | they'd be updating everyone to 6.0 right now |
| 20:37.17 | Alram | which would be bad. |
| 20:37.42 | Alram | since they dump everything in the WoW folder already |
| 20:37.46 | Alram | instead of nicely separating stuff |
| 20:37.56 | Silencer | I don't like this background downloader :P |
| 20:38.01 | Alram | me neither |
| 20:38.02 | Alram | cant see shit |
| 20:38.03 | Silencer | the final shit will be much less GB then the one |
| 20:38.14 | Silencer | we gonna get with those background downloads |
| 20:38.30 | Alram | i think they will just keep patching this DL up together with ptr/beta |
| 20:38.34 | nevcairiel | just disable bgdl then |
| 20:38.34 | Alram | lots of overhead |
| 20:39.03 | Silencer | nevcairiel, nah still lookin' forward that they fail and publish internal build :P |
| 20:39.05 | nevcairiel | i dont think they'll keep patching it at the same pace though, no need to push all the incrementals |
| 20:39.44 | Alram | i hope not |
| 20:39.50 | Alram | but this one is already one build higher than the previous one |
| 20:40.04 | nevcairiel | the "previous one" wasn't very official :p |
| 20:40.13 | Alram | it was it just failed :D |
| 20:40.22 | Silencer | this casc storage they made is silly thing when it comes with new build ;( |
| 20:40.25 | Alram | i hope they dont continously patch it up that would be bad |
| 20:40.34 | Silencer | I hope they figure out howto update files or delete old and write new |
| 20:40.40 | Silencer | else this just suck balls |
| 20:40.44 | Alram | they will |
| 20:40.46 | Alram | just not yet |
| 20:40.51 | Alram | they are too busy shipping WoD |
| 20:41.08 | Silencer | Tbh |
| 20:41.11 | Silencer | they could postpon it |
| 20:41.15 | Silencer | for january 2015 |
| 20:41.25 | Alram | WoD? |
| 20:41.29 | Silencer | Yep |
| 20:41.30 | Alram | yeah no |
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| 20:41.46 | Silencer | we could play MC 40 man :P |
| 20:41.49 | Silencer | and that new BG :P |
| 20:41.50 | nevcairiel | they could also just ignore the update thing, since unlike the beta, the live client isnt going to patch every week, so the bloat is limited |
| 20:41.53 | Silencer | and UBRS ! |
| 20:42.14 | Alram | i hope they do one final update when WoD is released |
| 20:42.16 | Alram | nothing in between |
| 20:42.22 | Alram | most content is done now, just touchups |
| 20:42.27 | foxlit | is there any reason a third party cannot patch this for them? |
| 20:42.37 | Silencer | they could start giving us Tier 17 :P |
| 20:42.56 | Silencer | ups tier 18 was it _P_ |
| 20:43.17 | Semlar | is the design in WoD to have melee characters do more damage than ranged |
| 20:44.58 | Mr_Rabies | i think the design is to remove some of the mobility they've given to casters over the years |
| 20:45.23 | Semlar | i'm hearing that melee flat out do more damage than ranged classes |
| 20:45.39 | nevcairiel | on stationary patch-work bosses, maybe |
| 20:45.44 | Semlar | which makes some sense given the advantages that ranged have |
| 20:45.46 | nevcairiel | but melee has to move way more and stuff |
| 20:45.49 | nevcairiel | so it may balance out |
| 20:46.06 | Mr_Rabies | maybe ranged need to get better at managing their damage on the move :p |
| 20:46.14 | Semlar | that kind of stuff never balances out |
| 20:46.49 | Semlar | if you're good at your class you just end up doing more damage than everyone else if you play the class that is capable of it |
| 20:46.51 | Mr_Rabies | if the balance is close enough so that player skill can make up the difference, then it's not really an issue |
| 20:58.32 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:59.24 | Neffi | Semlar: what am I looking at? |
| 20:59.34 | Neffi | -- oh |
| 20:59.42 | Neffi | dafuq man. daruq |
| 20:59.50 | Semlar | warlocks only locks |
| 20:59.53 | Neffi | who even is healing |
| 20:59.55 | Jamash | Semlar: why |
| 20:59.57 | Semlar | who isn't healing |
| 20:59.59 | Neffi | dk self healing? |
| 21:00.04 | Semlar | it's all warlocks |
| 21:00.06 | Neffi | everyone self healing...? |
| 21:00.25 | Mr_Rabies | i think the real question is did they summon anyone or make them all walk there |
| 21:00.28 | Neffi | "we got plenty of tanks" |
| 21:00.31 | Neffi | this is a little out of hand |
| 21:00.53 | Mr_Rabies | our lock has almost as much health as our tank |
| 21:01.20 | Semlar | 40 chaos bolts to the face |
| 21:01.31 | Neffi | I've seen warlocks with more health than tanks. But health is not mitigation |
| 21:01.59 | Semlar | are you saying warlocks aren't tanks neffi |
| 21:02.13 | Neffi | I'm saying warlocks should be tanks. give them even more power |
| 21:02.21 | Semlar | they have a tanking spec |
| 21:02.25 | Gethe | 'locks > monk tanks health wise |
| 21:02.30 | Neffi | World of Warlock sounds better anyway. Rolls off the tongue |
| 21:02.46 | Gethe | as a BrM my self |
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| 21:06.45 | Neffi | brain fart. what's that word that describes a noticeable affect of an ailment |
| 21:06.54 | Semlar | lol there's a video of 25 warlocks doing ToT |
| 21:06.57 | Neffi | like, you diagnose if these are present |
| 21:07.01 | phelps | didn't warlocks wear plate in the alpha or something like that |
| 21:07.22 | Dagmar | That would make the Paladins |
| 21:07.25 | Neffi | phelps: hunters had a true melee spec in the alpha. doesnt mean much |
| 21:07.26 | Dagmar | s/the/them/ |
| 21:07.59 | Semlar | the army of doomguards |
| 21:08.16 | smcn | Neffi: symptoms |
| 21:08.25 | Neffi | ah! I just thought of it too |
| 21:08.27 | Neffi | thanks |
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| 21:24.38 | zenzelezz | I laughed too hard at this: "QA Engineer walks into a bar. Orders a beer. Orders 0 beers. Orders 9999999 beers. Orders a lizard. Orders -1 beers. Orders a sfdeljkn" |
| 21:25.53 | Simca | lol |
| 21:28.08 | Neffi | god I hate people |
| 21:28.58 | Neffi | Trying to just give good advice. Some clown removed the much-needed unofficial patches because of an issue obviously caused by another mod. He insists that if removing the patches fixed the issue, then the patches are the cause, because "[software] is not like medicine" |
| 21:29.45 | Simca | wat |
| 21:30.32 | Neffi | Regarding Skyrim. You should never not use the unofficial patches. But apparently I'm a moron for suggesting that masking the symptoms is not a cure |
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| 21:34.15 | Simca | i'd argue that software is more similar to medicine than dissimilar |
| 21:38.10 | Torhal | I thought you just played a moron on television, Neffi. |
| 21:39.38 | kd3 | ugh. that roto-tiller worked muscles I didn't even know I had. bring on the pain killers. https://twitter.com/Kaydeethree/status/514527874678657024 |
| 21:40.09 | Neffi | Torhal: that too |
| 22:01.42 | Neffi | help me Semlar http://i.imgur.com/4AOmqWh.jpg |
| 22:01.58 | Neffi | no less than 6 of those red dots are dragons. the rest are spiders that one of the dragons kept shooting at me |
| 22:02.22 | Mr_Rabies | did you turn on dark souls mode or something |
| 22:02.44 | Semlar | good luck neffi, it's dinner time |
| 22:02.44 | Neffi | Deadly Dragons + Immersive Creatures + Dragon Combat Overhaul. Also I tweaked those to make them harder |
| 22:03.04 | Neffi | The battle started out with 4 dragons. Killed them, but they all called in reinforcements |
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| 22:09.37 | TC-Work | wuss |
| 22:11.34 | Neffi | wuss? |
| 22:11.43 | phelps | WUSS |
| 22:12.03 | Neffi | one of their "limit breaks" (OP move they use as a last resort) was to pelt the ground with magic bullets that hit for like 500. 3 of them did it at the same time |
| 22:12.13 | Neffi | the final dragon's limit break ended up being pelting the ground with.. spiders |
| 22:12.27 | Neffi | I have 320 hp <_< |
| 22:14.52 | TC-Work | I reiterate: wuss. |
| 22:24.50 | Gethe | kd3: what are you using to extract the UI files? |
| 22:39.45 | kd3 | getting the UI files from a dbc, handing that filelist to CascExplorer and pulling them out from there |
| 22:39.50 | kd3 | since the built-in tool is _still_ broken |
| 22:46.21 | Gethe | i've been using cascExplorer too, but for the last two builds ive been getting an error and nothing happens :( |
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| 23:16.28 | Simca | Gethe: you need to update then, they changed the format of the build config |
| 23:18.57 | Simca | before on left, after on right: http://i.imgur.com/NmhviEl.png |
| 23:23.20 | Gethe | update the game or cascExplorer? cascExplorer hasn't had an update since april |
| 23:23.27 | Simca | cascExplorer |
| 23:23.40 | Simca | might have to do it manually then i guess |
| 23:24.11 | Simca | though if kd3's works maybe cascExplorer doesn't use the FTP |
| 23:24.44 | Simca | that was the only change 2 builds ago though |
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| 23:29.50 | [TOM_RUS] | Gethe, there's an update https://github.com/WoW-Tools/CASCExplorer/releases |
| 23:30.58 | Gethe | ah thank you |
| 23:38.00 | znf | http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=f44540121b95600ebf43020d4a5b29f9&p=9244164#post9244164 |
| 23:38.01 | znf | *sigh* |
| 23:38.13 | znf | why did my retarded clients had to buy a server from a freakin' reseller? |
| 23:43.58 | Primer | Because you weren't there for them |
| 23:45.36 | znf | I was... |
| 23:45.47 | znf | And, even worse, they're going trough another reseller |
| 23:46.01 | znf | like, client -> greek-reseller -> icebluehost -> hetzner |
| 23:46.16 | znf | because "we like the guy who runs greek-reseller, we don't want to move away from him" |
| 23:46.18 | znf | ... |
| 23:53.47 | Semlar | what is "OnlineMode" supposed to do in casc explorer |
| 23:54.06 | Semlar | it appears to make the program not work |
| 23:54.25 | Semlar | [TOM_RUS] |
| 23:54.32 | znf | It's a cleverly designed button |
| 23:56.46 | Gethe | my assumption was that OnlineMode will download the data directly from the servers, as opposed to using local files |
| 23:58.00 | Semlar | madness! |
| 23:59.02 | Gethe | you're mad! |
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