| 00:03.08 | Wobin | znf use 1password =P |
| 00:03.30 | znf | should have been more specific |
| 00:03.35 | znf | need that in a shell script :P |
| 00:03.38 | Wobin | although, generating a dictionary based password seems a little... silly |
| 00:03.58 | Wobin | "Let's start by making it easier to crack"? |
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| 00:04.37 | znf | Wobin, needs to be easily input in another embedded device (like a STB, which you will most likely input it with a 1-9 keys on a remote control) |
| 00:04.53 | kd3 | ~lmgtfy generate pronounceable password |
| 00:04.54 | purl | ACTION thinks you should look here: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=generate pronounceable password |
| 00:05.13 | kd3 | bah, the script didn't get fixed |
| 00:05.19 | Wobin | Just do a numeric one then |
| 00:05.39 | znf | hmm... or that |
| 00:06.49 | znf | I had already made something that used ADGJMPW :P |
| 00:07.01 | znf | (ie: first letters on a keypad) |
| 00:08.17 | Mr_Rabies | does WoD have belt buckles? |
| 00:09.14 | kd3 | not to my knowledge |
| 00:09.28 | kd3 | the databases don't show one that works for >ilvl600 items |
| 00:09.50 | Mr_Rabies | phew |
| 00:10.10 | Mr_Rabies | i'd rather see them have some kind of direct enchant than that |
| 00:11.01 | znf | you will not have many things to do to gear once you get it in raids |
| 00:11.05 | znf | just equip and carry on |
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| 00:14.30 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, i'm looking forward to that, but they did keep some so it's a bit arbitrary feeling right now |
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| 00:19.08 | Neffi_ | Proposed amendment to any connector spec: when packaging a cable based on this spec, the cable must be bound in a loose loop, not tightly folded |
| 00:19.22 | Neffi_ | those kinks seriously never go away |
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| 00:28.26 | Semlar | kinky neffi |
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| 00:35.24 | Neffi_ | x.x |
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| 00:36.32 | Mr_Rabies | neffi: depending on the jacket type and cable gauge, a quick blast with a heat gun on a lower setting (or hair dryer, even) can work those out pretty reliably |
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| 00:36.58 | Mr_Rabies | (or just leave them in a hot car) :v |
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| 00:45.54 | Semlar | neffi i'mma make a shaman alt |
| 00:47.16 | Semlar | so i can pretty much fill the same role as my hunter and heal if i need to |
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| 00:49.48 | Semlar | plus i haven't played my shaman since like bc |
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| 00:52.58 | Neffi_ | Semlar: you should make a warlock |
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| 01:03.32 | Semlar | warlocks are dumb neffi |
| 01:04.20 | Neffi_ | warlocks pwn you Semlar |
| 01:04.50 | Semlar | just because warlocks have been op since the dawn of time doesn't mean that blizzard won't nerf them into the ground any day now |
| 01:05.56 | Neffi_ | warlocks are mushrooms, Semlar |
| 01:06.04 | Semlar | i don't think that's true |
| 01:06.47 | Neffi_ | no trust me, it's been proven |
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| 01:18.50 | Torhal | Semlar: It's true. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX1dPTAQ5_U |
| 01:20.00 | Semlar | hey this isn't the whole clip |
| 01:20.06 | Torhal | Yeah :/ |
| 01:20.10 | Torhal | Dunno what happened to it. |
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| 01:20.35 | Semlar | so what you're saying is i should roll a warrior |
| 01:20.45 | Torhal | This was from 1.4 |
| 01:20.48 | Torhal | Times have changed. |
| 01:20.50 | Semlar | no, it checks out |
| 01:20.54 | Torhal | Apparently Warriors are the new mushrooms. |
| 01:21.15 | Semlar | when do warriors get a healing spec |
| 01:23.18 | infamousX | is there a way to hide my kgpanel anchored to my player frame when I'm not on my DK? my runebar panel shows up on my hunter and I dont like it D: |
| 01:23.28 | infamousX | I'm assuming a script would be in order here |
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| 01:29.59 | infamousX | orrrrrr I could just make another profile |
| 01:30.00 | infamousX | gg |
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| 01:38.26 | Neffi_ | infamousX: you could parent it to the rune frame (I forget the name) |
| 01:38.56 | Neffi_ | infamousX: or you could give it the following OnLoad script: if select(2,UnitName'player') ~= 'DEATHKNIGHT' then self:Hide() end |
| 01:39.09 | infamousX | Stuf's rune bar doesn't have it's own name, shows up as a table. |
| 01:39.16 | infamousX | I'll try it, thanks (: |
| 01:39.33 | Neffi_ | all frames are tables |
| 01:39.40 | Neffi_ | but aye, it might be an unnamed table |
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| 01:39.47 | infamousX | but it changes every login D: |
| 01:39.49 | Neffi_ | the script will always work |
| 01:40.10 | Neffi_ | err |
| 01:40.19 | Neffi_ | no, that script won't. wow. |
| 01:40.46 | Neffi_ | if select(2,UnitClass'player') ~= 'DEATHKNIGHT' then self:Hide() end |
| 01:41.07 | Neffi_ | or, alternately: self:SetShown( select(2,UnitClass'player') == 'DEATHKNIGHT' ) |
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| 01:42.33 | infamousX | is that two different ways of doing the same thing? or is one "better" than the other? |
| 01:42.48 | Semlar | no he used UnitName instead of UnitClass the first time |
| 01:43.04 | Semlar | because he's bad |
| 01:43.31 | Semlar | it's okay neffi i still wuv you |
| 01:45.06 | Semlar | the last 2 examples are just two ways of doing the same thing |
| 01:45.21 | infamousX | thought so, just making sure! thanks |
| 01:48.47 | Neffi_ | I wrote the first one, then decided it would look cleaner to do it like the 2nd one. Both exactly the same |
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| 01:50.36 | infamousX | makes sense :) second one does look prettier ;) |
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| 02:53.21 | karl_w_w | from the 'history's most underpaid people' files: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Beck |
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| 03:17.57 | sylvanaar | Torhal: I implemented custom folding regions for you |
| 03:18.15 | Torhal | sylvanaar: Oh, sweeeet. Syntax? |
| 03:19.11 | sylvanaar | https://gist.github.com/sylvanaar/68a639881408d1024208 |
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| 03:22.24 | Torhal | sylvanaar: Not live yet? |
| 03:22.39 | Fisker | Hey bye Torhal |
| 03:22.42 | sylvanaar | going to do a build |
| 03:22.51 | Torhal | sylvanaar: Ah, ok. Thankye. |
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| 03:23.00 | sylvanaar | IDEA 14 though |
| 03:23.08 | Torhal | Yah, been using it awhile. |
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| 04:23.55 | Neffi_ | how does that go again? "fool me once...." http://imgur.com/gallery/FS1M8 |
| 04:27.54 | Cairenn | omfg |
| 04:28.14 | znf | *blink* |
| 04:29.10 | Thunder_Child | If only you could be removed from the gene pool for stuff like that. |
| 04:29.42 | kd3 | I would assume that the twitter response is a fake from 4chan, just like the original Wave... |
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| 04:30.28 | kd3 | s/se is/ses are/ |
| 04:41.31 | Fisker | nah Neffi_ |
| 04:41.45 | Fisker | People just microwaved them for the insurance because they're all getting iphone 6's anyway |
| 04:42.17 | Semlar | i'm not sure microwaving your smartphone is covered |
| 04:42.50 | Fisker | It probably is now that they're paying 2-3 times as much since insurance companies knows it's used for fraud anyway |
| 04:42.53 | Fisker | So might as well just cover all the things |
| 04:46.51 | Fisker | I'm tired |
| 04:47.08 | Semlar | sleep |
| 04:47.48 | Fisker | oh ok |
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| 05:56.12 | jleclanch | Well this is mildly odd... |
| 05:56.13 | jleclanch | http://dpaste.com/2RAYCW2 |
| 05:56.54 | jleclanch | my dns is google dns, funnily enough |
| 05:57.02 | jleclanch | lets see what opendns says |
| 05:57.24 | Fisker | As I recall 3 does some shit jleclanch |
| 05:57.31 | Fisker | I used to have them as well and setting your own dns did nothing |
| 05:57.34 | jleclanch | this is new |
| 05:58.07 | Fisker | Maybe it's because you're in sweden |
| 05:58.24 | Fisker | I didn't really check into it though |
| 05:58.44 | Fisker | But I remember I forced my DNS to Google DNS because I wanted to access pirate bay from my mobile network |
| 05:58.51 | Fisker | but 3 still caught it and blocked access |
| 06:00.23 | jleclanch | opendns through dnscrypt same thing |
| 06:00.53 | jleclanch | bing. yahoo, they're all fine. its just google |
| 06:01.26 | jleclanch | concerning |
| 06:02.47 | Stanzilla | call the cops |
| 06:02.54 | Semlar | the hell is 3 |
| 06:03.07 | Fisker | a tele carrier Semlar |
| 06:03.49 | Semlar | does it still look like google? |
| 06:04.04 | jleclanch | Stanzilla: the european commission would be a better bet if they're doing what i think they're doing |
| 06:04.11 | jleclanch | yeah its google all right |
| 06:04.40 | Semlar | so they're like filtering google through the isp? |
| 06:05.09 | Fisker | Too bad I don't run 3 anymore to do any poking on my own |
| 06:05.12 | jleclanch | looks more like they're proxying it. i dont understand *how* |
| 06:05.33 | jleclanch | 92.40.250.52 is a 3 UK IP |
| 06:05.46 | jleclanch | what does http://92.40.250.52 look like to you guys? |
| 06:05.53 | Semlar | google |
| 06:05.54 | Neffi_ | googlr |
| 06:05.55 | Fisker | google |
| 06:06.03 | Semlar | well, not my google |
| 06:06.14 | Semlar | it doesn't have me logged in or anything |
| 06:06.15 | jleclanch | Yet it's not |
| 06:06.15 | jleclanch | http://who.is/whois-ip/ip-address/92.40.250.52 |
| 06:06.27 | Fisker | So if I put this as a host |
| 06:06.42 | Fisker | Actually no |
| 06:07.01 | Semlar | clearly they're just harvesting all of your google searches |
| 06:07.06 | Dagmar | Probably a proxy of some kind |
| 06:07.16 | Fisker | Think I'll fiddle with myself |
| 06:07.32 | jleclanch | Dagmar: how the fuck does my dns resolve google.com to this though? |
| 06:07.48 | Dagmar | DNS-based load balancing and zone selection |
| 06:08.05 | jleclanch | gesundheit |
| 06:08.19 | Dagmar | It does appear to be Google since the HTTPs cert checks out |
| 06:08.41 | jleclanch | yeah this is what surprised me the most |
| 06:08.43 | jleclanch | no red flags anywhere |
| 06:08.57 | jleclanch | so google is in on it? |
| 06:09.01 | Dagmar | Whois databases are not always up to date |
| 06:09.15 | Semlar | well, i know google offers their own version of google for china |
| 06:09.15 | jleclanch | no, three owns the whole block |
| 06:09.17 | Neffi_ | diff says the sources are not identical, jleclanch. might warrant some investigation by somebody who's not too tired to read it |
| 06:09.19 | jleclanch | my ip is in that block |
| 06:09.22 | Fisker | but certs aren't a reverse lookup? |
| 06:09.32 | Neffi_ | they might be injecting shit |
| 06:09.42 | Dagmar | My guess is it's a blind proxy |
| 06:09.51 | Dagmar | THey'd only be able to inject things into http content |
| 06:09.59 | Dagmar | I wouldn't suggest logging in there via http |
| 06:10.20 | jleclanch | google is pure https everywhere anyway |
| 06:10.38 | jleclanch | and i havent seen this happen to any other sites, but i havent exactly been pinging my ass off |
| 06:10.40 | Neffi_ | my search through this went http |
| 06:10.55 | jleclanch | eh whatever, using httpseverywhere |
| 06:11.12 | jleclanch | i dont think you *can* sign in with http using google tho |
| 06:11.12 | Fisker | Yeah but google is https regardless of how I visit it |
| 06:11.29 | Fisker | oh yeha |
| 06:11.30 | Fisker | yeah |
| 06:11.36 | Fisker | login isn't on that site :P |
| 06:11.44 | Fisker | Wonder if the cookie will work if I put it in hosts |
| 06:11.50 | Fisker | I guess it should |
| 06:11.54 | Semlar | the login button takes me to an invalid page |
| 06:12.01 | jleclanch | I cant find anything regarding this on the web |
| 06:12.02 | jleclanch | though I am using google. |
| 06:12.19 | Fisker | yeah because it doesn't know it's google.com here Semlar |
| 06:12.57 | jleclanch | anti-xss probably |
| 06:13.29 | jleclanch | this went from "mildly odd" to "super concerning and potentially illegal" very fast |
| 06:13.40 | Semlar | i guess it doesn't like accessing it from an ip address |
| 06:14.02 | Semlar | anyway, my google.com resolves to 74.125.21.113 |
| 06:14.05 | jleclanch | Semlar: it likes it just fine, its accounts.google.com that doesnt like a redirect to that ip |
| 06:15.15 | jleclanch | Fisker: i thought for a second it could be google serving an "optimized google" when they detect an IP querying from my block... but it cant be, because Im running chromium behind a proxy |
| 06:17.07 | jleclanch | Dagmar: seriously, how is this possible? http://dpaste.com/1TT50VH |
| 06:17.46 | jleclanch | the query is to opendns, through dnscrypt |
| 06:17.56 | Dagmar | Ahhh... |
| 06:18.07 | Dagmar | THere's sort of a long-standing problem with OpenDNS |
| 06:18.22 | jleclanch | it's the same with google dns |
| 06:18.30 | Dagmar | It breaks peoples attempts at bind views, i.e., source address selection of DNS destination |
| 06:18.49 | Dagmar | As far as nameservers are concerned you always look like you're maybe in SoCal |
| 06:19.15 | jleclanch | whats a dns ip i can use that is trustworthy right now? |
| 06:19.27 | jleclanch | (and that supports dnscrypt) |
| 06:19.30 | Dagmar | 8.8.8.8 resolves to a 74 addres |
| 06:20.16 | Dagmar | If you're still getting the other address from it, then it's because theyv'e decided that's the node for your area to go to |
| 06:20.39 | Dagmar | I just run my own damn nameserver |
| 06:20.56 | Semlar | this is all just to get you to use bing |
| 06:20.57 | Dagmar | No idea what Comcast thinks I should be using. |
| 06:22.32 | jleclanch | Ok |
| 06:22.32 | jleclanch | phew |
| 06:22.37 | jleclanch | with dnscrypt.eu it doesnt happen |
| 06:22.55 | Dagmar | Doesn't happen with 208.67.222.222/208.67.220.220 either |
| 06:22.58 | jleclanch | sanity has been restored, Three can't actually perform magic |
| 06:23.26 | jleclanch | this is the last time i ever use opendns |
| 06:23.27 | jleclanch | and this time i mean it. |
| 06:23.34 | Dagmar | heh |
| 06:23.54 | Dagmar | Some people at teh office got pretty worked up about getting updates for QuickTime from Apple at about 64k/s |
| 06:24.20 | Dagmar | ...because the OpenDNS answer would put you on the crappiest and most overloaded node on Apple's CDN possible |
| 06:24.32 | jleclanch | whats the problem? 64k/s ought to be enough for anybody |
| 06:24.43 | Stanzilla | I never get good speeds from apple |
| 06:24.51 | Stanzilla | worst thing is app store/mac update downloads |
| 06:24.52 | Dagmar | When you're on a network that has a minimum fabric of 100base-T? |
| 06:25.03 | Dagmar | ...and there's gigabit all over campus? |
| 06:25.12 | jleclanch | but yeah, I was a bit wary of them before but they were the fastest dnscrypt provider |
| 06:25.23 | Dagmar | There's reason to fuss when you get single-channel ISDN speeds from anywhere bigger than a closet |
| 06:26.04 | Dagmar | They do work with most of the CDNs so that they can serve the same views as a user would normally see, but they tend to be a little lagged |
| 06:26.05 | jleclanch | Dagmar: I moved in to the one area of central stockholm that doesn't have fiber yet. I think I got an achievement out of it. |
| 06:26.21 | Dagmar | Just be glad you're not using them for malware filtering and expecting a whitelist to exempt your internal zones |
| 06:26.30 | Dagmar | They have a tendency to randomly fail at that |
| 06:26.46 | Dagmar | It's super awesome when nothing inside your network can talk to the Key Management Service anymore. |
| 06:27.03 | Dagmar | Random auth failures everywhere with no apparent rhyme or reason |
| 06:27.44 | Dagmar | Hilariously, we put some records into our nameserver to provide an exception for that so the queries for our internal stuff would never go to OpenDNS, and people tried to blame us for the outage... becuase we didn't go through change management _first_ |
| 06:28.00 | Dagmar | I was like "Emergency change, guys. Surely you've heard of them." |
| 06:28.26 | Dagmar | We figured it out, fixed it under five minutes. |
| 06:28.38 | Dagmar | Screw those idiots. |
| 06:29.18 | Dagmar | The AD team, for their part, and bless their industrious little souls, had been trying to hide the issue for three days. |
| 06:29.50 | Dagmar | It sort of blew a hole in their excuses when five minutes after the Unix team heard about a problem, it was fixed. |
| 06:29.53 | Dagmar | lol |
| 06:30.20 | Fisker | Wait how does that even work |
| 06:30.25 | Dagmar | Morons. |
| 06:30.26 | Dagmar | That's how. |
| 06:30.38 | Dagmar | ...or do you mean the bypass thing? |
| 06:30.42 | Fisker | no |
| 06:30.46 | Fisker | but how does the query go to opendns in the first place |
| 06:30.47 | Dagmar | You can tell bind to _not_ forward queries for zones |
| 06:30.51 | jleclanch | they used to break things pretty hard if you were using their "search" service which was on by default |
| 06:30.55 | Fisker | oh |
| 06:30.58 | Dagmar | ...which is stupidly easy when you're authoritative for the zone in the first place. |
| 06:31.05 | jleclanch | i dont know if they still do that |
| 06:31.08 | Fisker | You're using your unix servers for the nameservers? |
| 06:31.19 | Dagmar | We were using Diamond IP "appliances" |
| 06:31.33 | Dagmar | ...which are basically a really, really deplorable Linux From Scratch build running ISC BIND. |
| 06:31.41 | Dagmar | ...with a rather sadistic management interface. |
| 06:31.55 | Fisker | I just can't see why if clients had their DNS pointed at the domain controllers that the domain controller would forward a query for a kms server to opendns |
| 06:32.14 | Dagmar | The desktops and everything use those DIP nameservers. |
| 06:32.27 | Dagmar | ...because seriously. Windows is not safe for use as a DNS server. |
| 06:32.39 | Dagmar | Not the way those idiots ran things |
| 06:33.11 | Dagmar | It took a week to explain to them that they did not have to have their little AD boxes exposed to anything because we could slave transfer the AD zones |
| 06:33.19 | Dagmar | They just did not get it |
| 06:33.45 | Dagmar | We had to talk someone into turning on slave transfers for the primary DNS and go "Look. See! It works like we said it does." |
| 06:34.10 | Dagmar | If it makes 1,000 zone updates a day it doesn't matter because it was all on our network in the first place. |
| 06:34.39 | Dagmar | BIND can absolutely saturate a wired ethernet connection with responses. |
| 06:34.48 | Dagmar | Windows DNS, not so much |
| 06:35.08 | Dagmar | 15,000+ desktops means you kinda need performance. |
| 06:36.16 | Dagmar | Also a great example of why you let the guys who sleep/eat/breathe Unix do the configurations and absolutely do not get the noob "architect" to sneak the changes into the nameserver configuration without telling anyone. |
| 06:36.53 | Dagmar | I am pretty sure I offended someone by saying "Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?" when I saw it. |
| 06:36.57 | Dagmar | heh |
| 06:37.01 | Fisker | sounds like a guy I know |
| 06:37.45 | Fisker | have had fun at work the last few days |
| 06:38.04 | Fisker | Apparently they gave up on trying to have nobody be local admins on their boxes |
| 06:38.24 | Fisker | Boss kind of wanted to know why, and apparently 3 whole group policies were too complex to manage |
| 06:38.30 | Dagmar | haha |
| 06:38.58 | Fisker | It was stupid in the first place |
| 06:39.19 | Fisker | They wanted to remove admin rights without actually making sure it was possible with everything working |
| 06:39.45 | Dagmar | Hey at least you didn't roll out a bootloop |
| 06:39.52 | Dagmar | I know some guys who've done that |
| 06:39.56 | Fisker | :? |
| 06:39.58 | Fisker | ah |
| 06:40.12 | Alram | i once rolled out a bootloop |
| 06:40.14 | Alram | on purpose |
| 06:40.15 | Fisker | I almost did once actually :P |
| 06:40.20 | Dagmar | I really enjoyed watching them spend the next three hours logging into half a hundred VMs to manually intervene |
| 06:40.27 | Fisker | Though it was very few people that got affected |
| 06:40.31 | Fisker | and it technically wasn't my fault |
| 06:40.39 | Fisker | which is the best kind of fault |
| 06:40.41 | Alram | only mostly your fault? |
| 06:40.41 | Alram | :D |
| 06:40.48 | Fisker | Well no Alram |
| 06:40.52 | Fisker | But apparently cisco is shit |
| 06:40.58 | Dagmar | I am SUPER glad they were doing phased rollouts or I'm sure they would have conscripted everyone who could type into helping |
| 06:41.08 | Fisker | So I had a package upgrading their vpn client on our computers |
| 06:41.22 | Alram | oh the cisco vpn client |
| 06:41.24 | Alram | that thing is fun |
| 06:41.27 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 06:41.28 | Alram | (no) |
| 06:41.36 | Fisker | It needs two packages for our purposes |
| 06:41.44 | Fisker | the signin before logon and the vpn client itself |
| 06:41.58 | Fisker | Sometimes it would be unable to remove the vpn client, but could remove the files for the signin part |
| 06:42.08 | Dagmar | Joy! |
| 06:42.11 | Fisker | So when Windows booted it would be like "Sorry, but there's nothing to actually present you a login screen so fuck off" |
| 06:42.47 | Fisker | So I had a VM with the old version of cisco installed when that problem arose |
| 06:43.08 | Fisker | Because then I could just access the c$ on the broken computer, copy the files, reboot, uninstall again manually and then putting the new client on |
| 06:43.29 | Alram | sounds like a "phew thank god that worked" situation |
| 06:43.35 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 06:43.49 | Fisker | I think I only fixed like a handful of computer though |
| 06:43.52 | Fisker | so it wasn't that bad |
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| 06:44.32 | Fisker | But yeah I guess they're just blaming me for all their shortcomings |
| 06:44.53 | Alram | kind of an easy thing to do now |
| 06:45.01 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 06:46.12 | Fisker | But I basically just started this because the other guy was quitting |
| 06:46.19 | Fisker | I had almost zero knowledge about this system |
| 06:46.19 | Alram | time to bike to work |
| 06:46.22 | Alram | where we now have fiber |
| 06:46.29 | Fisker | and he spent like the entire month spinning aroudn on his wheelchair |
| 06:46.32 | Alram | instead of 5 down 0.5mbit up |
| 06:46.35 | Fisker | nice |
| 06:47.22 | Fisker | And the new guy they hired didn't even know the shit, but he couldn't learn it in the 3 months while I was there |
| 06:47.27 | Fisker | So they're sending him on courses and shit |
| 06:47.29 | Stanzilla | hey Analram |
| 07:05.10 | Fisker | I feel motivated Stanzilla I should sort my porn |
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| 07:05.23 | Stanzilla | how much gb is it, Fisker |
| 07:05.37 | Fisker | more than I can bear |
| 07:07.11 | Fisker | also maybe sort out %userprofile%\downloads |
| 07:07.14 | Fisker | It's 30GB now :< |
| 07:09.34 | bluspacecow | wat do Fisker ? |
| 07:10.04 | Fisker | shift-delete and never look at what you delete |
| 07:10.15 | bluspacecow | :( |
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| 07:22.47 | rid_ | hey Fisker |
| 07:22.53 | rid_ | hi bluspacecow |
| 07:23.00 | bluspacecow | hihi |
| 07:23.21 | Fisker | hey rid_ |
| 07:23.24 | Fisker | ilu |
| 07:23.36 | rid_ | ilu2 |
| 07:23.41 | rid_ | cisco isn't shit btw |
| 07:23.47 | Fisker | It isn't |
| 07:23.51 | Fisker | It's just expensive |
| 07:23.54 | Fisker | and sometimes shit |
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| 07:24.00 | rid_ | ok |
| 07:24.02 | Fisker | The VPN client is actually massively shit |
| 07:24.14 | rid_ | rolled out openvpn client over here |
| 07:24.18 | rid_ | that thing |
| 07:24.19 | rid_ | is shit |
| 07:25.02 | bluspacecow | *plays the happy happy joy joy song for rid_ * |
| 07:25.04 | Fisker | For example |
| 07:25.11 | Fisker | Cisco VPN does not support fast user switching |
| 07:25.15 | Fisker | Because their software is shit |
| 07:25.39 | Fisker | Dunno about openvpn |
| 07:25.51 | Fisker | But I suppose that software is free |
| 07:25.52 | Fisker | :3 |
| 07:25.54 | rid_ | all I need in vpn clients is execute a cmd after having succefully established a connection |
| 07:26.12 | Fisker | Why? |
| 07:26.25 | rid_ | policies and mappings and shit |
| 07:26.28 | mitch0 | Fisker: there's openconnect, too (for cisco) |
| 07:26.47 | Fisker | Don't need a special vpn client for it mitch0 |
| 07:26.51 | plaw | Anyone able to recommend a cmdline validator for JSON Schemas v4? (There are plenty of v3 validators around!) |
| 07:27.01 | Fisker | Cisco can do that rid_ |
| 07:27.05 | rid_ | yes |
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| 07:27.10 | Fisker | But really your users shouldn't be logging in before connecting to a VPN |
| 07:27.12 | rid_ | openvpn client cant :_D |
| 07:27.16 | rid_ | the windows one |
| 07:27.24 | rid_ | need to work around that |
| 07:27.31 | rid_ | (imho) |
| 07:27.36 | Fisker | According to their page they can |
| 07:27.53 | rid_ | ppl say they can't |
| 07:28.24 | Fisker | maybe it needs the server integration to do it |
| 07:28.27 | Fisker | but so does Cisco |
| 07:28.44 | Fisker | http://openvpn.net/images/howto/scripting/OpenVPN-AS_Scripting_1.png |
| 07:28.46 | rid_ | idk since I don't do the vpn stuff usually |
| 07:28.50 | Fisker | [user-connect] |
| 07:28.51 | Fisker | :3 |
| 07:29.06 | rid_ | maybe they should've jfgi? |
| 07:29.12 | Fisker | :P |
| 07:29.41 | rid_ | bet someone ticked o No |
| 07:31.06 | Fisker | I wanted to get this done on cisco for drive mappings too |
| 07:31.32 | Fisker | But the incompetent network guy never got it done in like the year following after me asking |
| 07:31.52 | Fisker | Also ended up pirating the client because it took him like 3 months to get it to me |
| 07:32.07 | Fisker | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 07:33.31 | rid_ | :) |
| 07:34.01 | rid_ | im pretty sure there's homeoffice users with policies from 1998 |
| 07:34.04 | rid_ | but cba |
| 07:34.11 | rid_ | also not my shit usually |
| 07:56.44 | Alram | Corrected Memory Error threshold exceeded ((Processor 2, Memory Module 2)) |
| 07:56.45 | Alram | :( Fisker |
| 07:56.52 | Kalroth | l2p issue |
| 07:57.12 | Fisker | :( Alram |
| 07:57.14 | Fisker | Also |
| 07:57.17 | Alram | we replaced it last week |
| 07:57.19 | Alram | i think its the slot |
| 07:57.21 | Alram | :( |
| 07:57.23 | Fisker | Just found out why the TSA wants your phone to be running now Alram |
| 07:57.50 | Fisker | With the new iOS stuff they can still gather data from it if it's turned on and merely in a "locked" state |
| 07:58.11 | Fisker | However if they turn it off and on again they can't until the user have logged in at least one |
| 07:58.12 | Fisker | once* |
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| 08:57.44 | Siku | What can cause a texture not to show up? I'm using a blp that I know works, but under my new code, it just doesnt show up. |
| 08:58.21 | Siku | erm, frame backdrop. not texture widget. |
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| 08:59.41 | Siku | Frame being shown, the alpha is set to 1, it has non-zero size, backdrop color, its anchored to UIParent... |
| 09:02.01 | Miiru | the size need to be exponents(?) of 2 |
| 09:02.09 | Miiru | oh you say it works hm |
| 09:02.18 | nevcairiel | the word is "a power of 2" |
| 09:02.23 | Miiru | ah yes :D |
| 09:06.47 | Miiru | anyone knows an achievement faker addon? |
| 09:07.07 | Miiru | that can fake guild achievement poups |
| 09:07.20 | Miiru | and those 'you achieved a part of an achievement' achievements |
| 09:07.23 | Siku | Miiru, The texture is 1024x1024. |
| 09:10.50 | Siku | I'm going to copy the old code and see if that works :|Â |
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| 09:19.36 | Siku | ...It showed up. Using the old code. Idont get it. |
| 09:23.20 | Constie | My professional diagnosis is that there is some difference in the new code that makes it not show up. |
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| 09:33.22 | Siku | and i JUST noticed. |
| 09:33.44 | Siku | That my SetPoint Y anchor is a positive number instead of a negative one, for something that sits at the top of the screen. |
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| 09:50.20 | Siku | Alright, everything's working and awesome. Wooo |
| 09:56.31 | mitch0 | "Bookmarks arrive in Opera beta 25" <- what a fail... |
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| 12:28.31 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, fabulous people. |
| 12:46.17 | Miiru | is there a fix date for the wod pre patch? |
| 12:48.44 | [TOM_RUS] | Oct, 7 most likely |
| 12:50.37 | Miiru | ok so its no sense for me to do an updated version for the current clientversion |
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| 13:11.26 | Fisker | hugtackles Lopeppeppy |
| 13:13.21 | Lopeppeppy | Gentle on the sunburn! I was a naughty redhead this weekend. |
| 13:14.36 | Fisker | O_o |
| 13:18.27 | Fisker | I heard you shouldn't be naughty while sick |
| 13:18.41 | Lopeppeppy | My cold feels much better. My sunburn, not so much. |
| 13:20.01 | Fisker | wonders what type of sun Lopeppeppy could be talking about given the pretty much no sun here |
| 13:20.04 | Fisker | :P |
| 13:21.47 | Lopeppeppy | It's friggin' September, I shouldn't be getting a sunburn in the fall! *rolls eyes* Welcome to Being a Redhead. |
| 13:22.47 | Fisker | Ah |
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| 13:23.11 | Fisker | Yeah I just keep inside |
| 13:38.55 | Lopeppeppy | I usually do too. :P |
| 13:39.50 | Kalroth | Redheads get sunburn from streetlight, it's not fair |
| 13:40.04 | Dagmar | That's only when they're running low on souls. |
| 13:41.07 | Lopeppeppy | I was totally running dry then, Dagmar. I was even wearing sunscreen! (although obviously not enough) |
| 13:42.02 | Kalroth | That's okay, you can have some of Fiskers |
| 13:42.11 | Fisker | I don't have a soul |
| 13:42.17 | Kalroth | Oh |
| 13:42.24 | Fisker | and my reserves are down |
| 13:42.26 | Kalroth | Well I'm not sharing mine! |
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| 15:41.18 | Lopeppeppy | And in local news, Peppy updates the school's pandemic information to tell the kiddies and their parents not to f'ing worry about Ebola. |
| 15:54.23 | Fisker | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwFKSl-3dPc <-this Lopeppeppy ? |
| 15:55.39 | Lopeppeppy | I don't know, Fisker. No sound at work! |
| 15:56.02 | Fisker | "Don't you worry about <blank> let me worry about <blank>" |
| 15:56.14 | Fisker | Those exact words |
| 15:56.16 | Fisker | just post them |
| 15:56.17 | Fisker | :P |
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| 16:49.29 | Lopeppeppy | First world problems: I just had to go buy a new shirt at the campus bookstore because my work shirt was irritating my sunburn. /cry |
| 16:49.56 | Fisker | :< |
| 16:50.21 | Fisker | Glad I'm only a day walker then |
| 16:52.12 | Lopeppeppy | I need to work on my day walker skills, I think. |
| 16:55.15 | Fisker | They're not just skills you acquire |
| 16:56.14 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. I'm in trouble. |
| 16:56.48 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy gets fired for stripping at work? |
| 16:57.03 | Fisker | :P |
| 16:58.33 | Lopeppeppy | ... probably I would. The shirt I bought does not technically meet dress standards, but I will claim medical exemption and "school colors are always acceptable!" I already had one boss look at me cross-eyed. *sigh* |
| 16:59.23 | Fisker | :( |
| 16:59.44 | Fisker | Nobody fires my friends |
| 17:00.08 | nevcairiel | nah, just you |
| 17:00.36 | Fisker | :< |
| 17:00.48 | Fisker | Somebody fired my friend as well nevcairiel |
| 17:00.57 | Fisker | which was rude |
| 17:02.18 | Lopeppeppy | Rude is never acceptable! |
| 17:03.28 | Fisker | ^^ |
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| 17:40.11 | Fisker | Been asked to clean out your desk yet Lopeppeppy ? |
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| 17:46.09 | Lopeppeppy | No. I work in the back corner, the Boss Man would have to make a special trip to view my outfit for suitability. He's too lazy. |
| 17:47.35 | Fisker | looks up the email address |
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| 18:31.48 | pompy1 | https://www.facebook.com/RutgersU/posts/10153232163982575 damn :\ |
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| 18:37.44 | Fisker | tactically hugs Lopeppeppy |
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| 18:39.31 | Fisker | tells everybody to quiet down |
| 18:42.10 | Cairenn | :p\ |
| 18:42.14 | Cairenn | -\ |
| 18:45.14 | haste | Fisker go slp |
| 18:45.15 | Fisker | :) |
| 18:45.30 | Fisker | Nah haste |
| 18:47.53 | Fisker | Need to wake up at not 3/4 am one day |
| 18:48.48 | Lopeppeppy | Tactics are appreciated today, Fisker. The sunburn hurts. |
| 18:49.29 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 18:51.49 | Constie | Isn't it a little late in the year for a sunburn? |
| 18:52.01 | Constie | I guess maybe you're somewhere else. |
| 18:52.25 | Fisker | It should be but apparently the skin decided otherwise |
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| 18:55.32 | Constie | Skin. Can't live with it, can't live without it. |
| 18:56.27 | Simca_ | it puts the lotion on its skin, Lopeppeppy |
| 18:56.36 | Lopeppeppy | I totally did! *sigh* |
| 18:57.01 | Lopeppeppy | I'm in northern New York State, Constie. It's totally late in the season for this nonsense. |
| 18:57.38 | Fisker | :o |
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| 19:11.50 | runge | hi. I am trying to maintain a addon. It tries to enumerate all talents by GetNumTalents() and then getting the names with GetTalentInfo(). GetNumTalents are gone. What is the way to do it now? |
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| 19:17.36 | Semlar | runge: the interface seems to be doing for tier = 1, MAX_TALENT_TIERS do for column = 1, NUM_TALENT_COLUMNS do GetTalentInfo(tier, column) end end |
| 19:19.39 | Semlar | oh it wants GetActiveSpecGroup() as the third argument |
| 19:20.05 | Semlar | like /dump GetTalentInfo(1, 1, GetActiveSpecGroup()) |
| 19:23.11 | runge | Semlar: you have been immensely helpful. Thank you very much! |
| 19:23.39 | Semlar | check out https://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/blob/beta/FrameXML/TalentFrameBase.lua to see how it's implemented in the ui |
| 19:26.12 | runge | thanks! I am new to lua and addon developen in wow so I appreciate all links to good sources :) |
| 19:29.35 | runge | I have a piece of code that works on live but crashes the beta client directly. I am unsure on how to debug. Any suggestions? |
| 19:30.01 | Semlar | you could put it on pastebin and link it here |
| 19:30.20 | nevcairiel | but my irc client is a beta, what if it crashes? |
| 19:30.45 | Semlar | we'll all mourn your passing |
| 19:30.56 | Constie | Well. |
| 19:31.01 | Semlar | some of us |
| 19:32.11 | karl_w_w | I always mourn when nevcairiel passes wind |
| 19:32.52 | Semlar | runge: you'll have to figure out what specific piece of code is actually crashing the client |
| 19:33.01 | TC-Work | ~lart nevcairiel |
| 19:33.01 | purl | whips out a sword and chops nevcairiel in half |
| 19:33.29 | Semlar | it can be from calling a function too early, with the wrong parameters or just because |
| 19:36.18 | runge | Semlar: Yep I am working on it. It takes time to remove pieces of code untill it does not crash |
| 19:41.21 | runge | hmm thats strange. |
| 19:41.33 | runge | self.editBox:SetText(header..prioList) |
| 19:41.51 | runge | thats the issue. setting " " works, but not header or prioList |
| 19:41.59 | runge | I can print both of them though |
| 19:42.18 | Semlar | you have an event associated with setting the text? |
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| 19:44.38 | infamousX | Hey guys:) |
| 19:44.52 | Semlar | sup |
| 19:45.17 | infamousX | Just at home for my lunch break. How's it going? |
| 19:45.24 | Semlar | it's raining |
| 19:46.05 | infamousX | Lame! I don't mind a little drizzle but full on rain isn't fun x( |
| 19:46.28 | Semlar | well it's florida |
| 19:47.12 | infamousX | Makes sense. ;) |
| 19:47.19 | infamousX | Do you ever go fishing Semlar?? |
| 19:47.27 | Semlar | no |
| 19:48.19 | Constie | Rain is really enjoyable as long as you can see and hear it but aren't getting hit by it yourself. Something something human condition. |
| 19:48.22 | infamousX | If I lived in FL I'd be fishing every day. Tarpon, Redfish, Snook... gah, that would be amazing. |
| 19:49.23 | runge | Semlar It should show a popup with text in it when I push a button. The text is in two variables and its rather large amount of text |
| 19:49.37 | Semlar | how much text |
| 19:50.53 | Semlar | a hundred lines, a thousand lines |
| 19:51.02 | runge | up to 25k chars. though the header variable alone is much less then 1 k and it crashes on that |
| 19:51.16 | runge | 1500 rows |
| 19:52.10 | runge | I can print them to the chat without problems and it works well on live. is there a change that I have missed? |
| 19:52.25 | infamousX | Back to work. See you guys in a few hours:) hopefully the rain stops Semlar! |
| 19:52.45 | Semlar | i can't really say anything without seeing the code |
| 19:53.15 | Semlar | i suppose the game could crash if you put too much text in an edit box but i have no idea |
| 19:54.17 | runge | well the code is a pretty print of a big table. I can put the table in pastebin if that helps |
| 19:54.46 | Semlar | you don't have any script associated with the edit box? |
| 19:54.58 | Semlar | like OnTextChanged? |
| 19:55.35 | Semlar | maybe it's crashing trying to format a bunch of text |
| 19:56.43 | Semlar | can you paste just the stuff associated with the edit box and setting its attributes |
| 19:57.07 | runge | http://pastebin.com/bEqJEUM1 |
| 19:57.35 | runge | im gonna try to simplify it by removing a few unneeded rows |
| 19:58.40 | Semlar | what if you don't highlight the text |
| 19:58.50 | runge | does not matter |
| 19:59.58 | Semlar | have you tried a regular string |
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| 20:00.23 | runge | I have tried " ", but I will try something a bit more advanced |
| 20:00.29 | Semlar | something other than lua |
| 20:00.30 | runge | http://pastebin.com/jMRhQuji <-- a few things removed |
| 20:02.07 | runge | ok I think I know what is wrong |
| 20:02.24 | runge | I added \n to a string |
| 20:02.27 | runge | then it crashed |
| 20:02.36 | Semlar | is a multiline text box |
| 20:03.18 | Semlar | editbox:SetMultiLine(true) |
| 20:05.26 | runge | that line does not work. trying to index nil |
| 20:06.20 | Neffi_ | .. |
| 20:06.25 | Semlar | you have the L capitalized? |
| 20:06.28 | Neffi_ | self.editBox:SetMultiLine(true) |
| 20:07.18 | runge | ah thanks. It works (it looks uggly), but no crashes |
| 20:07.34 | runge | seems like bad error handling |
| 20:08.01 | nevcairiel | it might not be actually crashing but hitting an assertion, those are not enabled in the live client |
| 20:10.54 | runge | ah. I did not know that. So much to learn. Are there any good resources to learning how to code addons? I have only done the basic one on wowpedia and a few guides for Ace |
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| 20:49.23 | smcn | uh hm it seems ios8 is only supported by iphone 4s and above? my plain old 4 isn't getting it |
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| 20:54.08 | haste | I don't think your 4 wants it from what I've heard about the 4s performance |
| 20:54.10 | TC-Work | I think so., |
| 20:55.01 | smcn | haste: yeah one of the first things you see googling "ios 8 iphone 4" is "don't install it on 4s" |
| 20:56.07 | smcn | guess i'm just lamenting the fact that i should probably upgrade already |
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| 21:45.17 | Primer | My wife upgraded her iphone 4 to 8. Not sure if it's an s though. I don't think it is. So far she hasn't complained. |
| 21:46.06 | relaxok__ | i upgraded my 5 to ios8 and i don't notice any differences at all.. i guess i didn't really look into what it was supposed to provide |
| 21:46.12 | relaxok__ | its just slower |
| 21:47.35 | Primer | You said you didn't notice a difference then said it was slower |
| 21:47.46 | Primer | Fanboi much? |
| 21:50.26 | relaxok__ | sorry - didn't notice an improvement. |
| 21:50.35 | relaxok__ | features |
| 21:50.35 | relaxok__ | w/e |
| 21:51.27 | TC-Work | Primer: It should be an s since the 4 is not supported. |
| 21:51.49 | Primer | TC-Work: lovely |
| 21:51.59 | Primer | So I guess now she's going to bitch and complain about it |
| 21:52.04 | Primer | I think I should just buy her a 6 |
| 21:52.15 | TC-Work | Happy Wife -> Happy Life. |
| 21:52.21 | Primer | I have the occasion of our wedding anniversary as an excuse |
| 21:52.35 | Primer | On 10/05 |
| 21:55.07 | Primer | ponders |
| 21:56.24 | Primer | Wow...16g, 64g, and 128g |
| 21:56.43 | Primer | That's like buying popcorn at the movie theater. No one ever buys the small |
| 21:56.48 | Primer | because of shit like this |
| 22:01.29 | Stanzilla | counter strike go is now out for linux |
| 22:04.23 | Primer | Is it libwine? |
| 22:04.28 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 22:04.32 | Arrowmaster | why would it be? |
| 22:04.37 | Primer | Because people cheat |
| 22:05.05 | Arrowmaster | its the last source game to be ported to linux, would be a waste of time to use libwine |
| 22:06.30 | ajmitch_ | now if only wow would be ported one day |
| 22:06.56 | Arrowmaster | it was |
| 22:07.10 | ajmitch_ | ported & publically available, that is |
| 22:07.16 | Arrowmaster | yeah not happening |
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| 22:10.08 | Torhal | http://game.ioxapp.com/color/ |
| 22:10.26 | Stanzilla | they can't even do the mac version right |
| 22:11.22 | Torhal | WAT |
| 22:11.38 | TC-Work | iox, not ios |
| 22:11.52 | Stanzilla | Torhal: did you know that you won't have proper anti aliasing come 6.0? |
| 22:12.21 | Torhal | Neat. |
| 22:13.06 | Stanzilla | yeah it's either FXAA (blurception) or no AA at all for OS X |
| 22:13.58 | Constie | I have AA off anyway because I care too much about UI borders looking perfect. |
| 22:14.04 | nevcairiel | its not like they cant do mac right, its just that they dont care |
| 22:14.18 | Silencer | http://i.imgur.com/jMurAfu.jpg?1 |
| 22:14.22 | Silencer | wow 6.0 live |
| 22:14.25 | nevcairiel | the UI is not anti-aliased, you would apply that to the game world before drawing the UI on top |
| 22:14.51 | Torhal | wonders what Silencer is doing with Fiddler... |
| 22:15.04 | Alram | Silencer, i wouldnt call that live |
| 22:15.05 | Alram | :D |
| 22:15.11 | Silencer | Alram, why not ? |
| 22:15.21 | Silencer | they push Pre 6.0 live |
| 22:15.27 | Silencer | still binary files missing |
| 22:15.29 | nevcairiel | nonsense |
| 22:15.32 | nevcairiel | its just pre-loading |
| 22:15.36 | Alram | yeah |
| 22:15.39 | nevcairiel | it will go live in a few weeks |
| 22:15.43 | nevcairiel | 2-3 or so |
| 22:15.44 | Alram | preloading is very different from live |
| 22:15.56 | nevcairiel | best guess right now is 2 weeks |
| 22:16.07 | Silencer | still I setup my craps to install the game is they don't update catalog files |
| 22:16.11 | Silencer | if* |
| 22:16.14 | Alram | and modifying things to make it preload |
| 22:16.16 | Stanzilla | 15th is the rumored date |
| 22:16.19 | Alram | doesnt mean the preload is live either |
| 22:16.28 | Alram | its live when normal people on normal clients get it :p |
| 22:16.50 | Silencer | copy past from beta ;P |
| 22:16.57 | Alram | thats even worse :D |
| 22:16.58 | Silencer | just finally I see BGDL file with some datas |
| 22:16.58 | ajmitch_ | hopes the game can still be started with the opengl renderer in wine when 6.0 is live |
| 22:17.01 | Constie | Is what the game calls multisampling not anti-aliasing? That's what I've been told, but I don't know these things. |
| 22:17.12 | Alram | yeah Silencer old news |
| 22:17.13 | Alram | hours behind! |
| 22:17.32 | Stanzilla | 2! |
| 22:17.38 | nevcairiel | Constie: it is, but it works entirely differently then tha anti-aliasing in 6.0 |
| 22:17.54 | Silencer | well for me it was in a sec when blizz push files |
| 22:18.07 | Silencer | oke a 1 min since crontab do it every 1 min |
| 22:18.29 | Alram | took you 2 hours to fool the client? :P |
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| 22:19.04 | Simca_ | they updated BGDL:us/BGDL:eu/etc just recently, Alram |
| 22:19.17 | Alram | updated sure |
| 22:19.17 | Simca_ | only the regular stuff was done an hour+ ago |
| 22:20.05 | Alram | leading with "wow 6.0 live" is still pretty faulty information :D |
| 22:20.12 | Simca_ | yeah |
| 22:20.54 | Simca_ | also I can't think of a greater waste of time than trying to get the background downloader to work ahead of time |
| 22:21.11 | Simca_ | when the build has an identical root file to the current ptr/beta build |
| 22:21.13 | Alram | Simca_, trying to get it working afterwards |
| 22:21.16 | Alram | :D |
| 22:22.26 | Neffi_ | http://i.imgur.com/dI7h1uu.jpg |
| 22:22.54 | Alram | tread lightly |
| 22:23.21 | nevcairiel | isnt that illegal |
| 22:23.31 | Alram | technically yes i think |
| 22:23.33 | Neffi_ | no |
| 22:23.47 | Neffi_ | It's only illegal to deface with the intention of making it useless as a form of currency |
| 22:24.02 | Neffi_ | simple marks are squarely allowed, and drawings like this are a grey area, but not explicitly illegal |
| 22:24.07 | Alram | so if you make it cooler |
| 22:24.11 | Alram | it is worth more |
| 22:24.22 | Alram | or atleast should be |
| 22:24.39 | Neffi_ | well I'd certainly pay like $10.01 for a piece like that |
| 22:24.43 | Neffi_ | ;) |
| 22:25.00 | Alram | me too! |
| 22:25.21 | Dagmar | Neffi: Uh... also to deface as to make it look like a different denomination |
| 22:25.32 | Alram | that will be one heisenberg |
| 22:25.42 | Neffi_ | yes, that too, Dagmar |
| 22:26.06 | nevcairiel | the law says "to make it unfit for reissue", what that means seems up for interpretation |
| 22:26.32 | nevcairiel | looked it up |
| 22:27.25 | Neffi_ | the signatures, denomination info, legal statements and serial numbers are all there |
| 22:27.32 | Neffi_ | I think this was previously decided in a common-law manner |
| 22:28.12 | Silencer | Simca_, I just did this cus I was bored ! |
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| 22:40.47 | nevcairiel | they are doing a long scheduled maint window this week in EU at least, wouldn't surprise me if they also use that to put the pre-load up for everyone |
| 22:47.26 | Simca_ | they still haven't solved the inflated install size problem yet though, so it wouldn't surprise me if they waited 2 more weeks either |
| 22:51.34 | nevcairiel | they commented on that, and didnt seem like they thought it was a big deal for live, as you install big data only once, and they can always force cleanup after once its implemented |
| 22:52.44 | Simca_ | yeah but if you offer the BGDL super early it starts to cause the issue on Live |
| 22:53.05 | Simca_ | I would guess there would be 3-4 GB of wasted space by launch if they started offering it today |
| 22:53.24 | nevcairiel | well not really, the background download typically downloads in some other place, and only when its launched it uses that data to "install" later |
| 22:53.38 | nevcairiel | it wont convert to casc just with the BGDL |
| 22:54.23 | Simca_ | i'm pretty sure it will store the BGDL data in CASC form. the alternative is much worse |
| 22:55.24 | nevcairiel | even if thats the case, wouldn't it once it converts to casc when 6.0 goes live avoid any bloat issues, since its effectively rebuilding stuff? |
| 22:55.41 | Simca_ | possibly |
| 22:55.46 | nevcairiel | and even if not, the first wave of pre-load has the static resources that are unlikely to change |
| 22:56.06 | Simca_ | that's definitely not true |
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| 22:56.16 | Simca_ | last build, 9588 files changed |
| 22:56.22 | Simca_ | and that's on the low side |
| 22:56.55 | nevcairiel | eh, they probably still have a list of things that they consider pretty fixed |
| 22:57.15 | Simca_ | yeah maybe |
| 22:57.25 | Simca_ | but the player models aren't one of them |
| 22:57.46 | nevcairiel | player models arent exactly all that huge in file size terms |
| 22:57.47 | Simca_ | and as long as they aren't completely done, there are a huge amount of assets that aren't ready (every NPC texture) |
| 22:58.05 | Simca_ | because of npc textures, player models are massive in terms of file size |
| 22:58.14 | Simca_ | probably multiple gigabytes |
| 22:59.05 | Alram | atleast terrain is starting to be somewhat stable |
| 22:59.12 | Alram | less and less of those changes each build |
| 22:59.47 | nevcairiel | in teh end maybe they just don't care about a bit of bloat in the pre-load, or they know that its going to fix itself once it installs itself into the main game |
| 23:00.07 | Simca_ | yeah it might fix itself |
| 23:00.22 | nevcairiel | they cant throw 10gb of assets (or however the delta for 6.0 is now) at the players 2 days before 6.0 live |
| 23:00.32 | nevcairiel | they have to start sometime soon if they want 6.0 in 2-3 weeks |
| 23:00.34 | Simca_ | it's around 9-10GB yeah |
| 23:01.19 | nevcairiel | people are already whining about the size alone, imagine the all the whine if they also have to download it in 2 days! |
| 23:01.30 | nevcairiel | apparently there is loads of people with crap internet :P |
| 23:02.14 | nevcairiel | one suggestion was of course to wait for the optical media and install from that, but the funny part is, you get that disc for WoD launch, not for 6.0 :D |
| 23:03.11 | Simca_ | WoD size is very close to not fitting on a standard DVD-9 |
| 23:03.23 | nevcairiel | they said there is multiple |
| 23:03.26 | nevcairiel | in the package |
| 23:04.11 | Simca_ | Alram suggested that they might have put up the BGDL and Live versions of WoD today because this was the version they're shipping |
| 23:04.32 | Alram | timeframe is about right |
| 23:04.35 | Alram | for disc manufacturing |
| 23:04.36 | Alram | i guess |
| 23:05.31 | Alram | new steam store is here btw |
| 23:05.33 | Alram | for those that care |
| 23:12.49 | [TOM_RUS] | Alram, HL3 on sale yet? |
| 23:12.55 | Alram | no |
| 23:12.57 | Alram | thats next year |
| 23:13.00 | Alram | i didnt tell you though |
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| 23:45.39 | kd3 | free Tropico 3 on the humble bundle store today: https://www.humblebundle.com/store?tropico3fr_ |
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| 23:54.59 | tz | ooo, ta |
