| 00:00.00 | Industrial | but I can only cast the main item of each totem ring |
| 00:00.34 | Industrial | I was hoping that it would "move" to the new ring when I selected it in the main ring |
| 00:00.55 | Industrial | so I can remember the locations fo each item and just click twice in a direction to get a totem :) |
| 00:01.17 | Stanzilla | mousewheel scroll on the icon |
| 00:01.38 | Industrial | ah. |
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| 00:11.09 | foxlit | Industrial: there's also a binding for opening nested rings, which might be closer to what you want. It's going to be somewhat awkward anyway; the primary goal is to let you select one of several effects that you'll want to be casting frequently -- i.e. which warlock demon you want to summon, or which blessing you want to buff with. |
| 00:14.18 | foxlit | (and it appears I broke that binding in Orange. oops.) |
| 00:14.38 | kd3 | oh gods, another "put the right ingredient in the pot" quest? |
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| 00:19.47 | Neffi | Welp. 840 EVO on its way. At least it's an upgrade. Really didn't want to have to buy a drive though D: |
| 00:21.18 | foxlit | Gah. |
| 00:21.31 | foxlit | Say you go "/equip cloudscorcher cowl of the feverflare" |
| 00:21.51 | foxlit | GetItemInfo will look and that and say "Oh, I know, you want an item called Cloudscorcher Cowl!" |
| 00:23.04 | foxlit | And now you can't tell whether you wanted Cloudscorcher Cowl of the Feverflare or Cloudscorcher Cowl of the Fireflash, both of which are in your bags somewhere. |
| 00:24.15 | VIad | foxlit: it's a classic issue with items using suffixes in the hyperlinks to identify the items :P |
| 00:24.21 | VIad | I think that issue has been in the game for ages |
| 00:24.59 | VIad | "Mana Mantle of Rage" and "Mana Mantle of Wisdom" are the base item "Mana Mantle" with a suffix, and the itemID is the same, hyperlink conntains a tiny modifier :p |
| 00:26.53 | Neffi | Implement a better searcher that converts name into a full item link, with sub-ID |
| 00:27.17 | foxlit | except you can't. |
| 00:27.40 | VIad | could allow /use item:id:somesuffixindex |
| 00:29.16 | Neffi | can't you /equip by bag,slot? |
| 00:29.35 | Shirik | TC-Work: :( |
| 00:29.38 | Shirik | what did I do |
| 00:30.37 | foxlit | Neffi: yes, and I don't have a problem with that case. |
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| 00:31.09 | Neffi | Ah, but you couldn't implement your own name searcher because you can't modify the macrotext in combat, correct? |
| 00:31.45 | VIad | an idea |
| 00:31.46 | foxlit | No; it does not need to be secure. |
| 00:32.24 | VIad | no idea |
| 00:33.01 | foxlit | I'd be happy if you could do if you had a function that'd do: (case insensitive item name) -> (correct item link) |
| 00:34.14 | foxlit | (like, say, GetItemInfo, if it quit being stupid) |
| 00:34.48 | VIad | anyone remember commander keen? or prince of persia on dos? |
| 00:37.17 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: Not hearing of Ingress. |
| 00:37.51 | Neffi | foxlit: want me to write such a function for you? |
| 00:38.22 | foxlit | Neffi: sure. Keep in mind: you can't use string.lower() and co, because these only work for latin alphabets. |
| 00:38.35 | VIad | string.utf8lower |
| 00:39.01 | VIad | with WOD Id's assume they'd add better UTF8 support, considering crossrealms, russians, chinese, e.g. :P |
| 00:39.17 | foxlit | the unicode equivalent of this is called case folding. |
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| 00:46.08 | foxlit | re: equipped items: http://go-hero.net/i/equip.png |
| 00:46.19 | Neffi | foxlit: you want item link or bag,slot? |
| 00:46.28 | Neffi | this should work for bag,slot https://gist.github.com/ea13a77c9d3908650d7d |
| 00:48.03 | znf | I hate PHP so much sometimes http://i.imgur.com/EWsZdTz.png |
| 00:49.49 | VIad | I sense an issue with your code, znf |
| 00:49.59 | znf | VIad, it's wordpress, no wonder |
| 00:50.13 | VIad | I hate wordpress |
| 00:50.14 | VIad | too outdated |
| 00:50.24 | VIad | needs more angular |
| 00:51.00 | znf | well, I never heard that one :P |
| 00:51.06 | VIad | :p |
| 00:51.15 | VIad | https://angularjs.org/ |
| 00:51.17 | znf | calling something that uses php/mysql outdated |
| 00:51.20 | znf | I know what angularjs is :P |
| 00:51.41 | VIad | I think the way wordpress is structured is a bit outdated |
| 00:51.52 | VIad | especially if you wanna create themes, I think it's a bit ugly :( |
| 00:51.53 | Stanzilla | I think your mom is outdated |
| 00:52.02 | znf | I don't see anything replacing the popularity of wordpress any time soon |
| 00:52.07 | VIad | indeed |
| 00:52.20 | znf | I mean, wordpress is popular because it runs everywhere - any host out there can offer php and mysql |
| 00:52.29 | foxlit | Neffi: in other words, that defers to the utf8 lib, which is essentially 33KB of character -> character mappings in two tables to implement lower/upper. |
| 00:52.45 | znf | Angular needs nodejs, right? |
| 00:52.51 | Neffi | foxlit: got a better solution? |
| 00:52.57 | znf | knows about it, but not that familiar with node thingie |
| 00:53.09 | VIad | znf: nah angularjs is just a js client library |
| 00:53.13 | znf | Ah. |
| 00:53.22 | VIad | maybe there are some nodejs server side stuffs for it |
| 00:54.01 | znf | mkay, let's try this with memory limit set to 1024MB... |
| 00:54.05 | znf | good thing server ram is cheap >_< |
| 00:54.26 | foxlit | Neffi: not really. Whine until GetItemInfo is fixed. |
| 00:55.44 | znf | wordpress' media/image management makes such a mess :( |
| 00:55.49 | VIad | znf: it might be another issue |
| 00:56.02 | znf | you install one theme, it defines custom image formats; great! |
| 00:56.03 | VIad | I experienced issues saying the memory was used up even if it didnt use almost any of it and such |
| 00:56.05 | znf | you replace the theme |
| 00:56.16 | znf | but the old image resizes stay behind :-/ |
| 00:56.19 | Guillotine | BTW, depending on exactly what you're doing with utf8 strings, there's a new strcmputf8i and (iirc) strstrutf8i in 6.0 |
| 00:56.50 | znf | VIad, nah, I have A LOT of images |
| 00:57.09 | znf | and I'm running a plugin that hunts around for unused images in the library so I can clean it up |
| 00:57.15 | foxlit | on further testing, WoW's string.lower and string.upper are actually language aware. |
| 00:58.15 | VIad | Guillotine: any improvements regarding displaying text? I often find addons having issues displaying text if you use the name of players from korea, chinese, russian, e.g. many addons just end up bugging, showing "?" or not working - something to do with font selection. so I guess, is there any upgrades to :SetFont or how the game fallbacks if the characters it tries to show aren't working right with said custom font? Or any new API to specify w |
| 01:00.13 | foxlit | Guillotine: neither seems to exist in the current beta build. |
| 01:00.21 | Guillotine | VIad: There's already support in 5.4 for setting a locale-specific "fallback" font for different locales. Check out FontStylesOverrides.xml. |
| 01:01.18 | Guillotine | foxlit: Oh, probably next build then |
| 01:01.29 | Guillotine | I forgot there hasn't been a beta build in a bit |
| 01:03.34 | kd3 | oh, that reminds me since you're here... if I swap between available quests on NPCs, somewhat frequently the description text doesn't show up. is that you or should I bug the engine team for that? |
| 01:03.35 | Stanzilla | Guillotine: has the sound bug been fixed where it does not read the cvar on login so you have to toggle on/off every session? |
| 01:05.34 | Guillotine | kd3: I just code reviewed the fix for that this week! Let me know if it's still broken a week or so from now |
| 01:06.34 | kd3 | sweet |
| 01:06.40 | Guillotine | Stanzilla: I don't know if it has been fixed, but it's definitely a known issue. |
| 01:06.54 | znf | touches Stanzilla |
| 01:07.46 | Stanzilla | squeek |
| 01:07.50 | Stanzilla | Guillotine: ok thanks! |
| 01:08.28 | VIad | new SharedXML API "GetItemIDFromHyperlink" :P |
| 01:12.33 | VIad | seems font overiding addons :SetFont, and the issue is that disables the fallback system :P |
| 01:13.37 | VIad | need to doublecheck with WOD, but I recall even if just replacing the one font file in fonts, the one for chat, still if someone write in russian it would break it, something happened to the fallback functionality - again gonna doublecheck and make sure I am not totally wrong :p |
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| 01:23.24 | kd3 | ugh. constrained camera angles in vehicles makes kd3 a sad panda |
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| 02:12.33 | Semlar | constrains kd3 |
| 02:13.22 | Semlar | grabs the camera |
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| 02:27.47 | Neffi | kicks Semlar |
| 02:27.56 | Semlar | explodes |
| 02:27.57 | Neffi | my hard drive is dying and it's your fault Semlar |
| 02:28.10 | Semlar | segfault |
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| 02:37.56 | pompy | Arrowmaster: how far are you from Toledo? |
| 02:58.26 | Seerah | pompy: ooh, just what I needed right now :) |
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| 03:04.31 | pompy | Seerah: haha yeah |
| 03:04.35 | pompy | he killed it |
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| 03:06.43 | A-KO | go see guardians of the galaxy |
| 03:06.45 | A-KO | holy shitballs |
| 03:06.52 | A-KO | 122,649 user ratings on RT. 96% |
| 03:06.57 | Thunder_Child | I refuse. |
| 03:07.07 | A-KO | your loss |
| 03:08.13 | pompy | Ratings: 8.9/10 from 32,917 users Metascore: 76/100 Reviews: 43 user|86 critic|45 from Metacritic.com |
| 03:08.15 | pompy | from imdb |
| 03:08.36 | Seerah | We'll see it next weekend after hubby gets back from his work trip |
| 03:09.02 | Neffi | seeing movies in the theaters is for rich people |
| 03:09.17 | A-KO | Seerah: HIGHLY recommended. Extremely comical. |
| 03:09.29 | A-KO | and you MUST stay until the end of the credits |
| 03:09.50 | Seerah | oh, definitely. hubby is with his best friend this weekend, and they wanted to see a movie. friend wanted to see Guardians, I said "NO" |
| 03:09.56 | Seerah | we're going |
| 03:10.02 | A-KO | lol |
| 03:10.07 | Seerah | Oh, ofc - it's a Marvel movie :P |
| 03:10.34 | A-KO | yeah, but this ultimate marvel ending has a twist you've never seen in a marvel movie before :P |
| 03:10.37 | A-KO | you'll enjoy it, though |
| 03:10.43 | Seerah | hehe |
| 03:12.04 | A-KO | This movie stands on its own |
| 03:12.08 | A-KO | even w/o the Marvel franchising |
| 03:12.10 | A-KO | just wow |
| 03:12.41 | A-KO | definite addition to any movie goer's collection |
| 03:14.19 | Semlar | stands on A-KO |
| 03:14.37 | A-KO | lol |
| 03:14.45 | Semlar | quite the view from up here |
| 03:19.05 | A-KO | indeed |
| 03:19.12 | A-KO | sleepy time for me |
| 03:19.14 | A-KO | later! |
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| 03:25.58 | Mr_Rabies | yup, guardians was amazing |
| 03:42.38 | Gethe | Guillotine: not sure if this got to you yet, but there is a bug on beta where the LOOT_CLOSED event is fired before LOOT_OPENED when autolooting |
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| 04:31.55 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/W8OhZwx.jpg |
| 04:32.05 | Neffi | (Futurama) |
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| 04:38.38 | p3lim | is it possible to change the color of the cooldown spiral? |
| 04:42.54 | Neffi | p3lim: doesnt appear to be http://wowpedia.org/Widget_API#Cooldown |
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| 04:47.43 | p3lim | I really dislike how charges are handled, they show the "arm" in a yellow weird texture that is stupid hard to see, I'd rather have like a coloured spiral |
| 04:51.45 | Simca_ | Gethe: LOOT_OPENED is retired. |
| 04:51.50 | Simca_ | use LOOT_READY |
| 04:52.13 | Gethe | good to know |
| 04:52.15 | p3lim | Simca_: Source? |
| 04:53.06 | Simca_ | me, myself, and I |
| 04:53.08 | Simca_ | and /eventtrace |
| 04:53.45 | Simca_ | (I had to fix 2 addons that use LOOT_OPENED earlier this week, moving them to LOOT_READY fixes all problems) |
| 04:55.41 | p3lim | looking at the diffs, LOOT_READY seems to be used for autolooting |
| 04:58.28 | p3lim | and LOOT_OPENED is still very much in use |
| 05:07.44 | kd3 | <insert major alliance character here>, nooooooo~! |
| 05:08.10 | Dagmar | inb4hordewhining |
| 05:11.46 | Simca_ | p3lim: the people who are downloading addons are probably autolooting (or insane) |
| 05:11.55 | Simca_ | also, LOOT_READY always fires first |
| 05:12.08 | p3lim | even without autolooting on? |
| 05:12.11 | Simca_ | yes |
| 05:12.14 | p3lim | alright |
| 05:12.16 | Simca_ | and seems to signify the beginning of the availability of addon data |
| 05:12.32 | p3lim | most likely, considering the name |
| 05:12.45 | p3lim | OPENED is probably related to the window, not the data |
| 05:12.56 | p3lim | probably not probably either |
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| 11:21.16 | karl_w_w | lubricates airtonix |
| 11:22.20 | karl_w_w | that's all humans are good for right? designing the machines and keeping them running, and I sure can't design them |
| 11:25.25 | airtonix | last dude i worked with was doing his masters in mechatronic |
| 11:25.45 | airtonix | never ending puns about skynet were had |
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| 11:48.01 | Semlar | do stealthed friendly units have nameplates |
| 11:49.11 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure it hides them for enemies |
| 12:05.37 | karl_w_w | it definitely hides them for enemies, friendlies I think do have nameplates |
| 12:05.45 | karl_w_w | 70% |
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| 12:46.56 | neon_ | Anyone here on WoD alpha? I'm having some weird issues with cooldowns on actionbar buttons. It doesn't show a cooldown spiral (nor cooldown text, even with the "show cooldown numbers" option turned on), instead it's pulsating with an almost unnoticable effect |
| 12:47.07 | neon_ | Is this a known issue or something? |
| 12:47.52 | Maldivia | hmm, showing fine for me, or haven't checked latest build |
| 12:48.50 | neon_ | It's kind of hard to describe exactly, but with /framestack on and mousing over an action button with an active cooldown it keeps adding/removing (for example) MultiBarBottomLeftButton4Cooldown every 0.5-1 sec or so |
| 12:49.40 | neon_ | If I turn on OmniCC it does show the cooldown text, but keeps removing/adding it at the same frequency as it blinks |
| 12:49.46 | neon_ | Going crazy over here >.< |
| 12:50.02 | Maldivia | have any addons that are interfering? |
| 12:50.05 | neon_ | Nope |
| 12:50.26 | neon_ | No addons enabled, I've tried removing the blizzard UI folders to let the game recreate them, I've even reinstalled wod from scratch |
| 12:50.30 | neon_ | No dice |
| 12:50.41 | neon_ | Apparently it's working for other people, I've asked in-game |
| 12:51.04 | neon_ | Some weird shit going on |
| 12:51.37 | Maldivia | reload ui ? |
| 12:52.06 | foxlit | "I've even reinstalled wod from scratch" |
| 12:52.16 | foxlit | I think that goes a little beyond reloading the ui. |
| 12:52.31 | Maldivia | missed that :) |
| 12:52.35 | neon_ | :) |
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| 12:53.05 | Maldivia | aah -- time to turn off all electronic devices |
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| 12:53.14 | Maldivia | baah* |
| 12:53.44 | foxlit | aren't they only after radios now? |
| 12:54.47 | foxlit | neon_: are you doing anything other than just clicking a spell on your action bar? |
| 12:54.48 | Maldivia | mostly, but that still cuts 3g :) |
| 12:54.56 | neon_ | foxlit, No |
| 12:55.27 | foxlit | I can replicate this for non-main action bars by opening the spellbook |
| 12:55.57 | Fisker | Going home Maldivia ? |
| 12:56.03 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 12:56.10 | neon_ | foxlit, Do you get like a "heartbeat" pulsating "shine" effect? |
| 12:56.36 | neon_ | Excuse the terrible descriptions, it's a bit hard to describe correctly :P |
| 12:56.41 | Fisker | Want two guys waving flags at you in cph? |
| 12:57.13 | foxlit | That's the end-of-cooldown animation; it just transitions to "nope, this spell is not on cooldown!" state somehow. |
| 12:57.22 | Maldivia | Fisker: well, you'll have to hurry then, the plane is leaving cph in a few minutes |
| 12:57.40 | Fisker | oh |
| 12:57.51 | Fisker | That's not going home |
| 12:57.54 | Fisker | Silly |
| 12:58.23 | foxlit | Since the UI export is still sort of broken, I'm not inclined to look at framexml to figure out what it's actually doing. |
| 12:58.43 | nevcairiel | just grab the sources from one of the people that put it on github? |
| 12:59.50 | neon_ | foxlit, Right. What's weird though is that it works for other(some?) people |
| 13:00.12 | Maldivia | takeoff time, goodbye wifi |
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| 13:05.34 | foxlit | nevcairiel: could do that, but don't want to. |
| 13:06.34 | foxlit | neon_: it's not necessarily weird; there's probably like one broken code path that resets the cooldown to 0, and many non-broken code path that set it to its proper value. If the combination of things going on with your client triggers both frequently, you'll see what you see. |
| 13:07.00 | neon_ | That falls within my definition of weird :P |
| 13:07.17 | foxlit | it's just broken code in a sufficiently complex system. |
| 13:07.21 | neon_ | Maybe I should say; really hard to diagnose, instead |
| 13:08.32 | foxlit | 1. Hook SetCooldown |
| 13:08.39 | foxlit | 2. Print arguments, call stack. |
| 13:08.47 | foxlit | 3. You now know what messed up. |
| 13:10.12 | Semlar | i also don't have this problem |
| 13:10.52 | foxlit | Put a spell with a cooldown on your right action bar. Trigger that spell, putting it on cooldown. Open your spellbook. |
| 13:11.47 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:11.56 | Semlar | i see |
| 13:16.26 | foxlit | neon_: /run function ActionButton_UpdateLossOfControlCooldown() end |
| 13:17.17 | neon_ | Changes nothing |
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| 13:19.17 | foxlit | Fixes my way of replicating it, at least. Beyond that, check your own call stacks. |
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| 13:25.19 | Semlar | yeah |
| 13:25.33 | Semlar | ActionButton_Update is calling ActionButton_UpdateLossOfControlCooldown on every button with an action |
| 13:25.48 | Semlar | and that function is literally just doing self.cooldown:SetCooldown(start, duration) |
| 13:26.13 | nevcairiel_ | they refactored that from a separate loss of control cooldown on live, seems like they didnt fix it properly |
| 13:27.34 | Semlar | this might actually work if they didn't call ActionButton_UpdateCooldown before this |
| 13:28.19 | Semlar | not that it would be a very good fix to just let it continue resetting the cooldown |
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| 13:30.00 | foxlit | "Druids should no longer cast One with Nature while being mind-controlled by NPCs." << Silly hotfix, that's hilarious. |
| 13:30.22 | Semlar | i thought they already fixed that |
| 13:30.32 | foxlit | sep 2013. |
| 13:30.36 | Semlar | ah |
| 13:30.51 | Semlar | yeah, i'm pretty sure druids were hearthing during that one fight in heart of fear |
| 13:32.06 | Semlar | http://www.wowhead.com/npc=62980#abilities this guy |
| 13:33.59 | Semlar | they should add a check to see if there's actually a loss of control cooldown for the button before calling SetCooldown on it |
| 13:34.19 | Semlar | i thought that used a completely separate cooldown spinner anyway |
| 13:40.37 | nevcairiel | they did on live |
| 13:40.41 | nevcairiel | for some reason they changed it |
| 13:42.55 | Semlar | well, at least they tried |
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| 14:32.39 | karl_w_w | I just went 0-9 in a game of dota and I think I did fine |
| 14:33.02 | karl_w_w | treant protector gotta be easiest support |
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| 15:11.28 | karl_w_w | http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=crystal+maiden+curve |
| 15:14.10 | nebula169 | heal towers and blink overgrowth and your duty is done |
| 15:15.09 | karl_w_w | i didnt even get blink |
| 15:16.03 | karl_w_w | we were losing the game all over the map but with PL and furion on your team it's pretty hard to not win |
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| 16:10.17 | Stanzilla | Shirik: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49523 < did you report that one to TheRightPlace(TM) yet? |
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| 16:28.26 | jleclanche | can pet battles be scripted or do they count as "in combat" and all that? |
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| 16:39.45 | Neffi | jleclanche: I don't think it's considered in combat lockdown, but I'm not positive. The right Wowpedia page might have some insight. Might need to test yourself |
| 16:41.47 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/bw0TCmT.jpg |
| 16:54.17 | Simca_ | jleclanche: all the functions that control pet battles require HW events |
| 16:54.25 | jleclanche | oh well |
| 16:54.35 | Simca_ | I tried writing an AI for pet battles for users at one point, ran into that problem very fast |
| 17:08.03 | Neffi | only HW events? |
| 17:08.15 | Neffi | can still write AI that just changes what the button press does each round |
| 17:08.46 | Maldivia | go go pecking bird |
| 17:12.28 | Thunder_Child | Bad idea Maldivia, might cause a nuclear meltdown. |
| 17:12.43 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 17:16.56 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/8kouu.gif |
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| 18:22.09 | karl_w_w | http://i.4cdn.org/b/1407089884032.gif grumble |
| 18:23.28 | Neffi | twitches |
| 18:23.32 | Neffi | fuck you, karl_w_w D: |
| 18:32.59 | Thunder_Child | Awesome |
| 18:36.24 | g0urra | karl_w_w: fuck you |
| 18:36.52 | karl_w_w | lol |
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| 20:14.52 | Stanzilla | Cairenn: I think http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info22964-8.0010.html and https://github.com/Blazeflack/ElvUI/blob/master/ElvUI/LICENSE.txt are conflicting, so might every other elvui mod on wowi |
| 20:15.12 | Stanzilla | he kinda only allowes modded versions to be uploaded to github and his ownsite ZzZz |
| 20:15.15 | Cairenn | Not accurate |
| 20:15.15 | Stanzilla | -e |
| 20:16.10 | Cairenn | It's a long standing state that everyone is aware of and gets dealt with accordingly |
| 20:16.36 | Stanzilla | and how is it dealt with? |
| 20:17.14 | Cairenn | Feel free to suggest that we don't honour copyright. |
| 20:17.16 | Cairenn | ... |
| 20:17.18 | Gnarfoz | how is it "not accurate", if that Duffed UI uses ElvUI code? (does it?) |
| 20:17.43 | Stanzilla | I did not, just trying to understand it because I need to handle it on Curse as well |
| 20:17.54 | Cairenn | Okay |
| 20:18.26 | kd3 | ok, that's weird. I can accept one npc from a questgiver but trying to pick up the other just does nothing |
| 20:18.45 | Jamash | kd3: on beta? |
| 20:18.53 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: I don't see what's unclear, tbh |
| 20:19.07 | kd3 | yah |
| 20:19.13 | Gnarfoz | since you wouldn't be asking if DuffedUI wasn't using ElvUI code |
| 20:19.32 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: that's why I was asking Cairenn, maybe there is an agreement with Elv or so |
| 20:19.35 | Stanzilla | that I might not be aware of |
| 20:19.43 | Cairenn | See the PM I just sent you |
| 20:19.56 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 20:20.05 | Gnarfoz | that agreement would have to be between Elv and liquidbase, then |
| 20:20.31 | Gnarfoz | i.e. he'd have to licence it to him under a different licence than the one you linked :o |
| 20:20.39 | Gnarfoz | which is entirely possible, of course |
| 20:21.26 | Cairenn | It's all copacetic guys, seriously |
| 20:23.32 | kd3 | a new word to me, neat |
| 20:23.45 | Simca_ | ^ |
| 20:24.36 | Simca_ | also, if I had $1000 for every addon that used GPL licensed code and then claimed to have All Rights Reserved or a non-GPL-complaint license, I could retire |
| 20:25.08 | Simca_ | (on a related but different note) |
| 20:25.28 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: turns out it isn't a Elv mod |
| 20:25.40 | Gnarfoz | copa...*googles* |
| 20:25.41 | Jamash | Simca_: lul |
| 20:25.48 | Stanzilla | I'm like a 100% sure it was a few years ago but this is different |
| 20:25.57 | Jamash | Copacetic means ok, cool, groovy, chillax mang |
| 20:26.20 | Fisker | Why don't you just use ok then?! |
| 20:26.25 | Gnarfoz | because words |
| 20:26.28 | Jamash | Fisker: Because english |
| 20:26.35 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: well then, carry on |
| 20:26.42 | karl_w_w | http://i.4cdn.org/b/1407090317520.png which ball reaches the end first? |
| 20:27.01 | Jamash | if there aren't at least four words for a concept in English then it steals some more words from other languages |
| 20:28.07 | Jamash | karl_w_w: I pick up the top ball and move it to the end, so that one |
| 20:28.08 | Gnarfoz | karl_w_w: I'll bite: A? |
| 20:28.09 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: yeah just now I'm curious when it changed :P |
| 20:28.23 | Fisker | wanna fight about it Jamash ? |
| 20:28.28 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: wowi comments talk about elv *shrug* |
| 20:28.28 | zenzelezz | considering how many words they already have, I'm always curious when they use words like "schadenfreude" (sp?) and "ombudsmann" (though the latter is less frequent) |
| 20:28.31 | Jamash | Fisker: Sure, why not |
| 20:28.36 | Torhal | Simca_: Fired a mail your way. |
| 20:28.48 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: how belligerent of you |
| 20:28.52 | karl_w_w | Jamash, Gnarfoz, B |
| 20:28.58 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: tehre is http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info19994-DuffedUIV5Continued.html#info as well |
| 20:29.00 | Torhal | fires a Stanzilla at Gnarfoz. |
| 20:29.00 | Gnarfoz | how? |
| 20:29.14 | karl_w_w | ball B travels faster when it is in the dip |
| 20:29.17 | Jamash | zenzelezz: because "pleasure at another's misfortune" and "person who intercedes with an organization on behalf of the public" are longer |
| 20:29.18 | Stanzilla | still looks like a butchered version of ..something |
| 20:29.54 | Gnarfoz | karl_w_w: ok? but it loses momentum going up the slope |
| 20:30.16 | karl_w_w | yeah, but the horizontal velocity will never go below A's velocity |
| 20:30.19 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: TukUi? it mentions one should remove TukUi before installing |
| 20:30.26 | Jamash | Gnarfoz: consider what it would look like if the dip were a hill |
| 20:30.35 | karl_w_w | it will return to the original velocity when it gets out of the dip |
| 20:30.47 | Jamash | it's "obvious" that a hill slows it down, but less "obvious" that a dip speeds it up |
| 20:31.02 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: yeah looks like it changed with v7 https://github.com/liquidbase?tab=repositories |
| 20:31.03 | foxlit | conservation of energy makes everything obvious |
| 20:31.17 | Gnarfoz | oh |
| 20:31.22 | Jamash | foxlit: conservation of energy *and* momentum |
| 20:31.26 | Gnarfoz | "negligible friction" |
| 20:31.37 | Gnarfoz | meh |
| 20:31.40 | foxlit | Jamash: why would I care about momentum here? |
| 20:32.21 | Fisker | attacks Jamash |
| 20:32.31 | Fisker | I... like your hair |
| 20:33.21 | Jamash | foxlit: Because velocity |
| 20:33.27 | Jamash | Fisker: ...thanks? |
| 20:33.42 | Fisker | :( |
| 20:33.54 | Fisker | g0urra never got to know how nice his hair was |
| 20:34.15 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: not sure how I would see that from that page? it's just the list of his repos? |
| 20:34.17 | foxlit | Don't need it. Just need the idea that potential + kinetic energy of an object subject to net 0 force remains constant. |
| 20:34.29 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: also, even v8 contains a license file for TukUI (among others) |
| 20:34.44 | foxlit | If potential drops, kinetic increases, which increases velocity. No momentum anywhere. |
| 20:34.57 | Jamash | foxlit: fair enough |
| 20:35.26 | karl_w_w | there's momentum everywhere, we just don't need to write home about it :P |
| 20:35.26 | Jamash | I meant more generally, but you are correct for this problem |
| 20:35.47 | foxlit | here it's weird. |
| 20:35.59 | Jamash | you need both to account for the collision of two billiard balls |
| 20:36.21 | foxlit | the key word being collision. |
| 20:36.24 | Jamash | yes |
| 20:37.10 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: lastly, I don't think the author particularly cares about the topic: https://github.com/liquidbase/DuffedUIv8/commit/c1cbc42bbe2481694893f7eb27a33a633a990a87 :P |
| 20:39.33 | Simca_ | haha I like how he moved Hydra's name to the bottom of the credits list |
| 20:39.53 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: haha neat |
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| 20:41.50 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: and I was talking about how the word "based on tukui" vanished from v6 to v6 |
| 20:41.51 | Stanzilla | 7 |
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| 20:43.39 | Jamash | Gnarfoz: ITT we learn (again) that addon authors don't know how copyright licenses works |
| 20:43.45 | Jamash | *work |
| 20:44.15 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: so by including the tukui license |
| 20:44.23 | Stanzilla | he basicly violates it |
| 20:44.28 | Jamash | ^ |
| 20:44.36 | Gnarfoz | maybe he added it for fun! |
| 20:44.37 | Stanzilla | genius |
| 20:44.45 | Gnarfoz | and it doesn't contain any TukUI code;) |
| 20:45.06 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: ah yeah, I didn't look at v6 |
| 20:45.10 | Stanzilla | well from skimming through it, I think it does but only old stuff |
| 20:45.17 | Stanzilla | like he branched off somewhere and did his own shit |
| 20:45.23 | Stanzilla | like throwing everything in less files |
| 20:45.34 | Gnarfoz | http://www.supermicro.nl/products/system/3U/5038/SYS-5038ML-H24TRF.cfm someone buy me one |
| 20:45.37 | Gnarfoz | or 5 |
| 20:45.39 | zenzelezz | well that was weird |
| 20:46.28 | Fisker | I'll buy you zero Gnarfoz |
| 20:48.04 | Jamash | Gnarfoz: what would you do with 120 server blades? |
| 20:48.12 | Jamash | er, 60 |
| 20:48.33 | Gnarfoz | good question |
| 20:49.04 | Gnarfoz | take pictures and post them on the serverporn reddit? |
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| 20:53.00 | Jamash | Gnarfoz: mine dogecoins? |
| 20:53.12 | Gnarfoz | with CPUs?! |
| 20:53.21 | Gnarfoz | https://github.com/pdincubus/JSONDerulo dat project name |
| 20:53.49 | Jamash | Gnarfoz: because you have something more practical to do amirite |
| 20:54.17 | Gnarfoz | I see your point |
| 20:54.20 | Jamash | Gnarfoz: https://github.com/pdincubus dat avatar |
| 20:57.12 | p3lim | anyone on the beta right now? |
| 20:58.48 | kd3 | ya |
| 20:58.55 | Nimhfree | yes |
| 20:59.13 | p3lim | could I have your bnet tag and spam you with links for a few minutes? :D |
| 20:59.21 | kd3 | kd3#194 |
| 20:59.25 | kd3 | er, kd3#1949 |
| 20:59.52 | Maldivia | links? what kind of links? |
| 21:00.02 | p3lim | any hyperlink reallyu |
| 21:00.40 | kd3 | damn it, they still haven't fixed /r over bnet |
| 21:01.31 | Nimhfree | Nimhfree#1798 |
| 21:02.40 | Fisker | I don't approve of your battle tag numbers |
| 21:03.37 | Nimhfree | I really hate it when I branch off of the release version instead of the WoD version and install them in WoDâ¦got to change all the Interface numbers :-( |
| 21:04.28 | Nimhfree | p3lim, how can I send a message to you back? |
| 21:04.42 | p3lim | you're not able to? |
| 21:04.54 | Nimhfree | I tried to click on you to reply and it says you not playing |
| 21:04.57 | kd3 | you have to open up the social window and click on the name, then hit send whisper |
| 21:05.01 | p3lim | o.O |
| 21:05.01 | kd3 | <kd3> damn it, they still haven't fixed /r over bnet |
| 21:05.21 | p3lim | kd3: whisper me |
| 21:06.07 | p3lim | wow you're right |
| 21:06.13 | p3lim | I can't recall that being a bug on live |
| 21:06.55 | p3lim | they _do_ strip the presenceID from whispers to increase security, might be that |
| 21:10.40 | karl_w_w | holy fuck the new google maps is just hopeless for transit directions |
| 21:10.44 | p3lim | Nimhfree: if you reload your ui the messaged are queried and will show when you've finished loading |
| 21:11.04 | Nimhfree | actually needed to logoutâ¦.addon version not fixed with reload |
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| 21:12.17 | Nimhfree | ok, back onâ¦and experiencing Lua bugsâ¦. :-( |
| 21:14.42 | Shirik | Wobin: we need to have a chat |
| 21:26.44 | p3lim | kd3: link me this item please: http://www.wowhead.com/item=30316 |
| 21:27.35 | p3lim | or Nimhfree, doesn't matter |
| 21:28.12 | Nimhfree | in game? how do I do that? |
| 21:28.21 | p3lim | run this: /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("\124cffff8000\124Hitem:30316:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0\124h[Devastation]\124h\124r"); |
| 21:29.23 | p3lim | I really don't get why wowhead haven't simplified those links to use /run and print() |
| 21:30.05 | Gnarfoz | site development almost as dead as curse? |
| 21:30.28 | foxlit | too busy attaching -head to other nouns. |
| 21:30.36 | Gnarfoz | also, does print() resolve hyperlinks? |
| 21:30.41 | p3lim | yup |
| 21:31.16 | p3lim | if I want to get the itemString from a hyperlink I have to escape it or replace | with ! or something |
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| 22:05.10 | foxlit | what's the easiest toy to get on the beta realms? |
| 22:07.34 | Gethe | dalaran toy shop |
| 22:07.43 | Nimhfree | did you check you account to see if you have been authorized by Blizzard for beta access? |
| 22:07.44 | Gethe | train wrecker and train |
| 22:08.39 | Nimhfree | the technique I used to get access was to register my desire with Blizzard well in advance. I was part of the first wave past alpha. |
| 22:09.07 | foxlit | as in toy box, Nimhfree. |
| 22:09.33 | Nimhfree | crapâ¦I read "toy" as "way"â¦.should put on glasses |
| 22:10.41 | MiRai | you're not alone, I read it as 'way' too :) |
| 22:10.58 | foxlit | Gethe: there's no Northrend :( |
| 22:11.09 | Gethe | D: |
| 22:11.22 | foxlit | and also no darkmoon faire, and no portal to Pandaria. Wait, where am I? |
| 22:11.40 | foxlit | (and where have all the world servers gone?) |
| 22:12.01 | MiRai | foxlit: You need to either copy a character over with their hearth set to some place with portals (e.g. Shrine), or you might be able to create a template Mage and go learn the portals yourself. |
| 22:12.28 | kd3 | draenor's up. someone tweeted at the DMF designer wondering about the situation and he said he'd check on it |
| 22:16.23 | Gethe | foxlit: http://www.wowhead.com/npc=36375 sells a toy in Azshara |
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| 22:18.20 | foxlit | there's a gnome in stormwind. |
| 22:19.24 | foxlit | that mirrors the toy vendor in dalaran. |
| 22:19.29 | foxlit | http://www.wowhead.com/npc=52358 |
| 22:25.05 | foxlit | so UseToy is protected and the only place its called from is the pet journal. |
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| 22:29.55 | Arrowmaster | pompy: 2.5 hours why? |
| 22:43.24 | p3lim | what color would properly represent hearthstone? like, Diablo 3 has red (#B71709), SC2 has blue (#B71709) |
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| 22:47.05 | kd3 | one of the blues of the rune in the hearthstone? |
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| 23:09.51 | foxlit | yellowish orange. |
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| 23:29.52 | Jamash | p3lim: purple |
| 23:32.39 | Jamash | #1B1327 |
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