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| 01:08.22 | Arrowmaster | shit i only have two weeks to come up with something for my massive chalice bloodline submission |
| 01:16.58 | Stanzilla | comcast users here? https://plus.google.com/110558071969009568835/posts/eZebZBXH6we |
| 01:18.42 | Amarande | hmm, apparently my usb2 and 3 ports may well be mutually exclusive on the front panel |
| 01:18.54 | Amarande | and/or I've fried the front usb3 port, but not the 2.0 ports which is weird since they're on the same header |
| 01:35.01 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:44.11 | Semlar | foxlit: how would sending a text message to a provided phone number even verify that it's you |
| 01:44.28 | foxlit | it wouldnât. |
| 01:44.36 | Semlar | that doesn't even make sense |
| 01:45.10 | foxlit | oh, it makes sense; itâs just that itâs lying to you. |
| 01:45.10 | Semlar | i guess they're relying on the fact that whoever might be trying to log in doesn't want to give them their phone number |
| 01:45.28 | Semlar | except they're probably just doing it to get more information about you |
| 01:46.12 | foxlit | so itâll do two things if you go that route: |
| 01:46.41 | foxlit | 1. Itâll sound the alarm bells that your registered account information changed to other emails you specify; thisâll notify the original owner if someone is actively acccessing their accounts. |
| 01:46.55 | foxlit | 2. Itâll use the phone number verification for future logins; this one is a lost cause. |
| 01:47.54 | foxlit | for added fun, âtell us the city you usually sign in fromâ doesnât recognize any actual cities, and âReset your password insteadâ is acctually unavailable because this is a google apps domain |
| 01:49.12 | Semlar | i wonder how accurate geo ip is in some places |
| 01:49.40 | Semlar | it seems like it would be a problem in smaller areas |
| 01:49.56 | tinystomper | or for those using vpn |
| 01:50.00 | Amarande | Semlar: then there's the ones that ask you security questions based on "publicly available information" on you |
| 01:50.35 | Amarande | I've occasionally seen one of those that has two basically identical answers and then says "can't verify your identity" because you didn't pick the one with the right comma or dash or some other lame-o thing |
| 01:51.01 | Semlar | what city you normally log in from doesn't seem like a particularly secure question |
| 01:51.38 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.43 | Amarande | (sometimes seen that in gaming too ... puzzle will ask for you to multiple choice with the right question and one of the wrongs being identical, or there sometimes will actually BE two solutions of which it fails to recognise both) |
| 01:52.07 | Semlar | i guess it's about as secure as gas stations asking your zip code when you use a card |
| 01:52.12 | Amarande | Semlar: at least Google doesn't require you to spend $100+ a month on a contract phone to use text verification |
| 01:52.18 | Amarande | unlike, say, *cough* Blizzard :( |
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| 03:45.46 | Mr_Rabies | geez, 832 auctions |
| 04:00.46 | Semlar | silverlight won't stay in fullscreen mode since i updated firefox |
| 04:03.10 | jleclanche | ahah |
| 04:03.21 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: https://mediacru.sh/qRpZeCcOGkQP |
| 04:03.57 | Mr_Rabies | hmmm |
| 04:04.17 | Mr_Rabies | is there a tool out there to compare two characters' known recipes for a given profession? |
| 04:04.37 | Mr_Rabies | i had JC on my DK, decided to get that on my new monk instead and swap the DK to Blacksmithing |
| 04:05.02 | Mr_Rabies | but before i drop JC i want to see what patterns i'm gonna lose access to |
| 04:07.11 | karl_w_w | lol |
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| 08:06.34 | Mr_Rabies | Torhal: info about some ARL recipes: apparently you unlearn certain ones like http://www.wowhead.com/spell=74216#comments when you learn the superior version, like http://www.wowhead.com/spell=103461 |
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| 08:51.33 | VIad | oh |
| 08:51.34 | VIad | KeyValues :O |
| 08:52.02 | VIad | xml templates can now contain KVP directly in the definitions :) |
| 08:56.20 | VIad | in 6.0 the GetAddOnInfo has a new field "newVersion" :O |
| 08:56.29 | VIad | 8th argument |
| 08:56.49 | VIad | the addons button glows if there is a new version |
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| 08:59.37 | Maldivia | butand how does it find out if there's a new versions |
| 08:59.47 | VIad | didnt find any info on that |
| 08:59.57 | VIad | I hope it will be some meta field for a simple check of some kind |
| 09:00.49 | VIad | found a test build xml, probably older |
| 09:00.54 | VIad | it used the url on the addon |
| 09:01.02 | VIad | button to click to launch it in the browser |
| 09:06.54 | VIad | "SPELL_POWER_CHI = 4; This is obsolete now" monks dont use chi anymore? |
| 09:09.13 | Stanzilla | they do |
| 09:09.31 | VIad | thats what the constants.lua said for 6.x just got curious :p |
| 09:25.49 | Shirik | what is this sorcery |
| 09:25.50 | Shirik | http://cdn.diply.com/img/8f8bc937-c631-4eb2-8048-d68f6813a15c.jpg |
| 09:25.58 | Shirik | if you stare at the green dot long enough, the yellow dots disappear |
| 09:26.06 | Shirik | wait wtf why is that an animated jpeg |
| 09:26.28 | Shirik | DOUBLE SORCERY |
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| 09:32.44 | Sintacks | VIad, it's said that for a long time i thought |
| 09:33.32 | VIad | Shirik: it's gif just has the wrong extension |
| 09:33.42 | VIad | the filename with the ".anything" is irrelevant |
| 09:33.49 | Shirik | oh |
| 09:33.54 | VIad | it just helps programs what to do when they click the file in windows |
| 09:33.56 | Shirik | I don't have a way of checking its actual type easiy |
| 09:33.58 | VIad | without reading the contents |
| 09:34.09 | VIad | you need to check what content-type is sent from the server |
| 09:34.35 | VIad | the response even says image/jpeg |
| 09:34.38 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/Ee9ftHX.jpg |
| 09:34.39 | Sintacks | wow |
| 09:34.42 | Sintacks | just. wow. |
| 09:34.48 | VIad | but the contents, binary data, contains the appropriate gif heading :P |
| 09:34.52 | VIad | so the browser figures it out |
| 09:35.04 | VIad | but it is not proper indeed |
| 09:38.45 | Mr_Rabies | i just put parmesan cheese in my grits |
| 09:38.46 | Mr_Rabies | don't tell kd3 |
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| 10:05.16 | Mr_Rabies | i love going nodesurfing during netsplits |
| 10:08.14 | karl_w_w | I like when our server splits because there's only 3 of us on it and we are the cool guys |
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| 10:08.49 | Mr_Rabies | i was hopping between the nodes and there were not many connected per node |
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| 10:09.02 | Mr_Rabies | i always hop around to see if it's a real netsplit or just the server i'm on died |
| 10:25.22 | Mr_Rabies | why can i not stop watching this i'm watching this instead of sleeping why https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylB-yhLFbas |
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| 10:28.21 | VIad | Mr_Rabies: that looks scary |
| 10:28.23 | VIad | are you mentally ok? |
| 10:28.38 | Mr_Rabies | yeah but whoever made this probably isn't |
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| 10:52.31 | airtonix_ | hey karl_w_w |
| 10:52.39 | airtonix_ | anything of importance occur? |
| 10:52.55 | airtonix_ | while i was on the toilet for the last four days? |
| 10:53.08 | airtonix_ | fixing the light bulb |
| 10:53.18 | karl_w_w | I don't think so airtonix_ |
| 10:53.43 | karl_w_w | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28306458 I guess |
| 10:59.35 | airtonix_ | that's a pretty cool looking helicopter |
| 11:09.24 | karl_w_w | I've never been in a helicopter |
| 11:09.27 | VIad | airtonix_: addons might probably not be able to notify users ingame when new versions are available, but maybe |
| 11:09.37 | karl_w_w | I've been on a hovercraft though |
| 11:11.19 | VIad | I saw an airplane once |
| 11:11.49 | karl_w_w | it was a hovercraft like this in fact https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/SRN4_Hovercraft_Mountbatten_Class.jpg |
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| 11:41.58 | VIad | karl_w_w: hovercraft cost vs boat? |
| 11:42.05 | VIad | cost and efficiency |
| 11:42.22 | karl_w_w | dont know |
| 11:42.35 | karl_w_w | i was a young'n at the time |
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| 11:52.36 | pompy | https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10504796_10152177382106615_550080923417103655_o.jpg wow thatss fucked. |
| 12:07.48 | g0urra | pompy: what |
| 12:12.00 | pompy | a house explosion. |
| 12:12.30 | Kalroth | cardbox* |
| 12:15.48 | karl_w_w | so today I found out ATMs use windows xp |
| 12:16.05 | rid_ | yup, embedded |
| 12:16.05 | karl_w_w | does that mean we can hack into them and steal their moneys? |
| 12:16.17 | rid_ | nope |
| 12:16.47 | Kalroth | sure, you only have to hack into their VPN and then find a flaw in their custom service |
| 12:17.06 | Kalroth | there's no regular windows xp service running on them |
| 12:17.47 | Kalroth | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP_editions#Windows_XP_Embedded |
| 12:17.53 | karl_w_w | that's a shame |
| 12:18.45 | karl_w_w | but I saw some guy did it in a movie once and then some guy came along and took him on a ride on his motorcycle |
| 12:19.10 | Kalroth | bromance? |
| 12:20.36 | Fisker | Ages old karl_w_w |
| 12:20.46 | karl_w_w | nah, it would never have worked out. one of them was a time traveller and too machine-like |
| 12:20.57 | karl_w_w | the other was a kid with floppy hair |
| 12:21.03 | karl_w_w | just completely incompatible |
| 12:23.32 | karl_w_w | absolutely all the silvering has rubbed off the front of my debit card, it's a real pain in the ass |
| 12:25.47 | karl_w_w | and the plastic coating is starting to peel off on all sides |
| 12:26.04 | karl_w_w | good thing it expires next month |
| 12:27.48 | karl_w_w | and by 'good thing' I mean 'changing my stored details everywhere is going to be a pain in the ass' |
| 12:28.46 | karl_w_w | oh wow, something else new, from next month nobody will be able to sign when using their credit card, they'll have to use their pin |
| 12:29.27 | karl_w_w | fuck knows how that's meant to work with pizza delivery |
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| 12:31.28 | Fisker | tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 12:33.33 | Lopeppeppy | Ouch! |
| 12:34.25 | Fisker | hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 12:34.38 | Lopeppeppy | Today is not Friday. This makes me sad. |
| 12:35.21 | Fisker | I see |
| 12:35.49 | Fisker | Well at least you have Friday |
| 12:43.06 | Lopeppeppy | You had me at hello. |
| 12:43.25 | Fisker | D: |
| 12:44.33 | karl_w_w | I have coupons for 66% off 10 Second Ninja and Richard & Alice on steam, if anybody wants them |
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| 13:03.52 | Kalroth | is that "10 Second Ninja and Richard & Alice", "10 Second Ninja" and "Richard & Alice" or "10 Second Ninja", "Richard" and "Alice"? |
| 13:04.49 | karl_w_w | the second one, Kalroth |
| 13:13.43 | Fisker | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkLI_KCnxv9SdE9NZy0ydGdwZmdsTXloZF9jbUpZY3c&usp=docslist_api |
| 13:15.23 | karl_w_w | I recommend one finger death punch |
| 13:19.44 | karl_w_w | and beat hazard of course, implying there are people who don't have it already |
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| 13:26.13 | rid_ | hey Fisker |
| 13:26.23 | Fisker | hey rid_ |
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| 15:08.22 | TC-Work | "[07/14/2014 19:17:39] INFO - __init__(_object*, std::string, std::string, std::string, std::string, std::string, std::string, std::string, bool, std::string, std::string, std::string)" Ah, nothing like redundancy... |
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| 15:23.33 | zenzelezz | TC-Work: what part of it? The number of strings? |
| 15:24.26 | TC-Work | zenzelezz: I know what it's actually doing, but it still looks amusing. |
| 15:24.47 | TC-Work | it also comes with: |
| 15:24.48 | TC-Work | [07/14/2014 19:17:39] INFO - __init__(_object*, std::string) |
| 15:24.48 | TC-Work | [07/14/2014 19:17:39] INFO - __init__(_object*, std::string, std::string) |
| 15:24.48 | TC-Work | [07/14/2014 19:17:39] INFO - __init__(_object*, std::string, std::string, std::string) |
| 15:24.48 | TC-Work | [07/14/2014 19:17:39] INFO - __init__(_object*, std::string, std::string, std::string, std::string) |
| 15:24.49 | TC-Work | etc. |
| 15:25.26 | zenzelezz | amusing I'll agree; but not sure about what's redundant about it? |
| 15:27.03 | zenzelezz | http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2014/07/15/10542285.aspx - interesting anecdote |
| 15:29.20 | Fisker | Fuuuuu |
| 15:35.31 | karl_w_w | http://www.gamesinasia.com/son-of-worlds-richest-chinese-family-causes-dota-2-commentator-to-cry-and-apologize/ |
| 15:43.03 | zenzelezz | so it turns out mac and cheese doesn't look particularly appetizing with red food coloring |
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| 15:46.09 | karl_w_w | did you know that without food colouring margerine would be grey? |
| 15:46.37 | karl_w_w | margarine would be as well |
| 15:46.40 | Amarande | zenzelezz: you should be using cayenne pepper for that red goodness |
| 15:47.09 | Gethe | karl_w_w: good thing i dont use margarine |
| 15:47.22 | Amarande | and yeah, good question, how does pizza delivery work in chip and pin countries? |
| 15:47.28 | Amarande | do they have to go back to stone age and be cash only? :( |
| 15:47.59 | karl_w_w | margarine is awesome gethe |
| 15:48.10 | Amarande | karl_w_w: margarine is evil, heh |
| 15:48.14 | Gethe | butter all the way |
| 15:48.14 | zenzelezz | Amarande: I wasn't really doing it with some great intent; I just had a bunch of leftover food coloring, since it turns out you only need a few drops to turn a bottle of Bacardi pink |
| 15:48.14 | karl_w_w | for most uses it tastes better than butter |
| 15:48.22 | karl_w_w | and it's far more healthy |
| 15:48.39 | Amarande | they used to think that, then it was learned that trans fats were worse for you than saturated fats |
| 15:48.54 | karl_w_w | implying margarine has trans fats in it |
| 15:48.56 | zenzelezz | <Amarande> and yeah, good question, how does pizza delivery work in chip and pin countries? <-- like bank cards? They carry a portable terminal |
| 15:49.24 | Amarande | karl_w_w: it at least did, for a long while, most brands still do from what I saw last when I looked at the nutrition infoboxes |
| 15:49.50 | Amarande | "zero trans fat" vegetable oil spread is still considered kind of a marketing badge of honour because it's still not the general case |
| 15:49.55 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: "most uses" as in? (I don't do food much) |
| 15:50.13 | Amarande | Butter never had that issue though, because fats cannot both be saturated and trans at the same time |
| 15:51.32 | karl_w_w | zenzelezz, as in sandwiches and things |
| 15:52.06 | karl_w_w | butter is better for putting on corn/potatoes etc, and butter is better for baking |
| 15:52.14 | zenzelezz | you use margarine on sandwiches? O_o |
| 15:52.47 | karl_w_w | of course? |
| 15:52.57 | karl_w_w | how's that news lol |
| 15:53.02 | karl_w_w | where else would you use it |
| 15:53.09 | VIad | karl_w_w: was the chinese guy right? |
| 15:53.16 | VIad | did they just flirt and lack commentator skills? |
| 15:53.22 | Amarande | karl_w_w: here in the states we usually use mayonnaise on sandwiches |
| 15:53.29 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: in my limited experience, margarine is more used in baking and cooking |
| 15:53.33 | Gethe | ^ |
| 15:53.36 | Amarande | if we use butter or margarine at all, it would be for that outside oiling layer for grilled cheese |
| 15:53.45 | Amarande | and even then mayo is often used for that too |
| 15:54.25 | karl_w_w | apparently that's the case VIad, though I don't speak mandarin so... |
| 15:54.28 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: well, googled some, and I take it back... apparently we just misuse "butter" in common speech; it is apparently a margarine-ish substance usually |
| 15:54.41 | karl_w_w | people have been complaining about it all tournament VIad |
| 15:55.10 | VIad | then I understand |
| 15:55.21 | VIad | I too dislike it when commentators arent skilled enough for the job |
| 15:55.27 | VIad | I enjoy having my brain picked :p |
| 15:55.35 | karl_w_w | yeah, the stuff used in baking is called vegetable shortening zenzelezz, which is the base of what we call margarine (margarine has water in it as well I think) |
| 15:55.53 | Amarande | this whole e-sports fad still has a loooooong way to go before it's really all there, heh |
| 15:56.12 | zenzelezz | over here at least they just call it "margarine" in recipes; but it's probably essentially the same |
| 15:56.13 | karl_w_w | $10 million isn't enough Amarande? |
| 15:56.30 | Amarande | karl_w_w: I mean more in organisational terms :p |
| 15:56.56 | Amarande | there's still a lack of accepted sane authority, remember the whole row over women's participation a few weeks ago? |
| 15:57.57 | karl_w_w | VIad, his riches seems to have nothing to do with it, he never mentioned it and she didn't seem to realise he was some rich guy |
| 15:58.16 | karl_w_w | although he is apparently the founder or owner or something of iG |
| 15:58.41 | VIad | karl_w_w: the article title is misleading |
| 15:58.42 | karl_w_w | an authority for what Amarande |
| 15:58.46 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 15:58.47 | Amarande | karl_w_w: esports |
| 15:58.57 | karl_w_w | why does all of esports need an authority |
| 15:59.19 | Amarande | there's no group that promulgates any sort of sane rules like say the IOC for physical and (some, anyway) mind sport |
| 15:59.33 | karl_w_w | global sports authorities only exist to enforce rules, esports rules are enforced by the game |
| 16:00.06 | Amarande | karl_w_w: remember the whole row a few weeks ago about how women were being denied entry into tournaments because they were used as a qualifier for an international where THAT authority decided to have male and female only international finals? |
| 16:00.20 | Amarande | you never see that sort of wild west soup in established sport |
| 16:00.27 | karl_w_w | rules over behaviour etc are enforced by the tournament organiser, which is also usually the case in sports |
| 16:01.25 | Amarande | yeah, that's the thing ... in regular sport there's generally an accepted international code that sets standards for tournament organisers in general |
| 16:01.44 | Amarande | without that, your "esports" are just glitzed up versions of that super smash bros tournament you had with your friends in the basement :p |
| 16:02.04 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: https://pay.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/2ar93n/kripp_gives_tips_on_constructed_enjoyment/cixzg2i?context=10000 |
| 16:03.29 | VIad | :D |
| 16:03.35 | karl_w_w | that doesn't make much sense Amarande, you haven't made a case for the necessity other than a single example of 2 different organisers enforcing the same rules (which really works against your point) |
| 16:04.32 | Amarande | karl_w_w: the whole notion of a "men's only" hearthstone tournament shows how out-there the present organisers are right now |
| 16:04.48 | Amarande | that would never fly anywhere else in sport, heh |
| 16:05.05 | karl_w_w | yeah, there's no men's only sports in the world |
| 16:05.11 | Amarande | that's like a "men's only" chess tournament (de jure, btw, there's no such thing) |
| 16:05.37 | karl_w_w | jleclanche, kripp is the root of a lot of the wider twitch chat cancer, no copy pasterino cappuccino |
| 16:05.45 | Amarande | there are women's only chess tournaments, but the only time you get men's only chess tournaments nowadays is when they're invitationals and it happens that all the people who happen to meet the rating requirements are men |
| 16:06.11 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: pretty sure league is the cause, not kripp |
| 16:07.03 | Amarande | karl_w_w: distinguish 'men's only sports' from 'sports that are explicity by rule restricted to men' |
| 16:07.05 | karl_w_w | league is some of them too |
| 16:07.22 | karl_w_w | dongers come from league |
| 16:07.39 | Amarande | also apparently the general vibe is that the reason these esports tournaments are restricted to men is because there's too many guys who enter who are that stereotypical cad who can't take being beaten by a woman |
| 16:07.44 | karl_w_w | and the text faces I think |
| 16:07.54 | Amarande | which is an eminently bad reason for a rule |
| 16:08.16 | Amarande | if "can't take being beaten" is justification for rules, next thing you know, it'll be illegal for a team to beat brazil in the world cup or something :p |
| 16:08.24 | karl_w_w | sounds like a reason you imagined |
| 16:08.52 | Amarande | karl_w_w: actually it seems to be popular sentiment, mainly because esports entirely lack any kind of organic justification for such restrictions |
| 16:09.08 | Amarande | at least in physical sports, there are reasons for women's only tournaments, due to physical differences |
| 16:09.43 | karl_w_w | i dont even know of any tournaments with such restrictions |
| 16:09.57 | mikma | http://youtu.be/nIz7rz3WOtM |
| 16:10.02 | Amarande | one general sign of mature organisation in a sport is that the basic rules exist for cogent, non-arbitrary reasons |
| 16:10.18 | Amarande | karl_w_w: ah, you must not have been here a few weeks ago when the last esports discussion happened here |
| 16:10.27 | Amarande | there was apparently a Hearthstone tournament which was arbitrarily restricted to men |
| 16:10.28 | karl_w_w | practically all sports rules are arbitrary |
| 16:10.35 | karl_w_w | yes Amarande, was |
| 16:10.39 | karl_w_w | they changed it |
| 16:10.46 | karl_w_w | I don't know of any others |
| 16:10.51 | Amarande | ah, they're finally starting to learn, then |
| 16:10.58 | Amarande | that's a good sign |
| 16:11.14 | karl_w_w | well, everybody got up in arms when the news of that one came out |
| 16:11.31 | karl_w_w | the good sign here is that it was so unusual that everybody complained about it |
| 16:12.21 | karl_w_w | I heard about it when it was cross-posted and at the top of r/dota2 |
| 16:12.26 | Amarande | karl_w_w: by 'arbitrary' I mean as in 'having no real purpose in terms of creating a reasonable organised contest environment' basically |
| 16:12.49 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: whats that game hes playing in the bottom right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNlROc676tM&t=1m05s |
| 16:12.53 | Amarande | for instance, in football, the offsides rule, much maligned and misunderstood, is non-arbitrary. it keeps things from degenerating into the kick version of american football, as I understand it |
| 16:13.18 | Amarande | otoh, if a contract bridge organiser tried to posit a rule like 'you can't open the auction in the spade suit on Thursdays', that would be entirely arbitrary and have no sane basis |
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| 16:14.00 | karl_w_w | grim dawn jleclanche |
| 16:14.04 | jleclanche | hmm |
| 16:14.08 | jleclanche | never heard of it |
| 16:14.26 | jleclanche | oh its in alpha |
| 16:14.32 | karl_w_w | I'd to pretend to be omniscient, but the guy he is in voice chat with mentioned it like 10 seconds after the time you linked :P |
| 16:14.35 | jleclanche | .. for two years O_o |
| 16:14.44 | karl_w_w | s/d/d like/ |
| 16:14.55 | Amarande | jleclanche: tbh, most software isn't in testing for long enough :) |
| 16:15.05 | Amarande | usually they end up using the customer as the second-stage beta tester, heh |
| 16:15.41 | jleclanche | it certainly looks interesting |
| 16:16.09 | Amarande | oh, speaking of software testing, jessie's almost in the homestretch :) |
| 16:16.28 | karl_w_w | steam early access is one of the few evils that's nearly as dangerous to the quality of gaming as free to play mobile games |
| 16:17.28 | VIad | anyone played divinity original sin? |
| 16:17.33 | karl_w_w | ( ï¼¾â¡ï¼¾)ã£ââ°â⯠|
| 16:18.20 | jleclanche | VIad: yep |
| 16:18.33 | VIad | I played it three times in a row because I liked it a lot. |
| 16:18.49 | jleclanche | then why ask if anyone played it? clearly you have |
| 16:18.51 | Amarande | heh, free to play |
| 16:18.56 | Amarande | get rid of that L there and you've got more like the truth |
| 16:19.18 | Amarande | although somehow I managed to suffer through the first 100 or so levels of candy crush saga without paying a cent before I finally got sane and quit the game, still without paying a cent |
| 16:19.38 | Amarande | and in words with friends the only thing I've actually shelled out money for is to remove the ads |
| 16:20.26 | VIad | jleclanche: I ask to see if someone else shares the love for the game like I did - if not then people can say what they thought about it :D |
| 16:20.50 | karl_w_w | I hate that game and everything it stands for |
| 16:21.09 | karl_w_w | (I have never heard of it before) |
| 16:22.31 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNWqG26EZw8&list=UUNRQ-DWUXf4UVN9L31Y9f3Q VIad |
| 16:22.46 | VIad | yes I saw it :D was funny |
| 16:29.27 | VIad | karl_w_w: why did you hate it? :P |
| 16:29.46 | VIad | no hud arrow pointing you to the objective made you angry? |
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| 17:42.54 | Dagmar | Clearly, Sony are pro |
| 17:43.30 | VIad | Dagmar: what did they do? |
| 17:48.45 | Dagmar | Fucking failed to renew sonyonline.net |
| 17:48.57 | Dagmar | ...which um, rather a lot of their shit is tied to, one way or another. |
| 17:50.16 | VIad | lol |
| 17:50.21 | VIad | arent domains autorenewal? |
| 17:50.31 | Dagmar | This is why they're pro. |
| 17:51.45 | VIad | even if expired, can't buy it yet :P |
| 17:53.52 | Amarande | Dagmar: is PSN down? |
| 17:54.17 | Amarande | (and is basically anyone who powers on a ps3 until they fix it going to get hacked almost immediately? or is it not that epic of a screwup?) |
| 17:55.46 | VIad | buy the domain |
| 17:55.51 | VIad | packet log all requests |
| 17:55.56 | VIad | get plaintext passwords |
| 17:55.59 | VIad | win |
| 17:56.15 | Amarande | though I should hope that https with cert authentication is in use |
| 17:56.38 | Amarande | actually, this sort of fail is the whole reason for cert authentication, I suppose, isn't it |
| 17:56.51 | VIad | they have failed before |
| 17:56.54 | VIad | they have been hacked |
| 17:57.09 | VIad | can't assume they properly implemented all their service requests to their domain |
| 17:57.09 | VIad | :P |
| 17:57.16 | VIad | ought to be someone that did some sloppy work at something |
| 17:57.51 | Dagmar | http://eq2wire.com/2014/07/15/sonyonline-net-domain-expires-shenanigans-ensue-for-all-soe-games-websites/ |
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| 17:59.10 | Fisker | how does that shit even happen |
| 17:59.16 | Fisker | They have like a billion days grace period |
| 17:59.20 | Dagmar | PHBs |
| 17:59.22 | Fisker | and they could like pay for 10 years if they wanted |
| 17:59.51 | VIad | Fisker: that would be silly |
| 17:59.58 | VIad | they don't got the economy for that |
| 18:00.06 | VIad | it's like 10$ for a domain for a year |
| 18:00.12 | VIad | 10 years is like 100$ |
| 18:00.17 | Fisker | Yeah they would be sacked at the quarterlies |
| 18:00.51 | Fisker | domain costs went up by 1000% costing us 90$ in profit |
| 18:00.53 | Fisker | fired |
| 18:00.59 | VIad | :D |
| 18:01.19 | Fisker | But seriously |
| 18:01.20 | Fisker | as I recall |
| 18:01.37 | Fisker | Don't you have like 90 days now or some shit like that with the new rules? |
| 18:02.00 | Fisker | Like 30 days to pay the bill after it expires, after that there's another 60 days or so before they delist it and then you have to pay a fee as well |
| 18:02.05 | VIad | even if the domain expires it wont be purchaseable until a while |
| 18:02.16 | VIad | so they are safe :) |
| 18:04.14 | Fisker | Oh I thought they still left it functional in the grace period |
| 18:04.19 | Fisker | but I guess that's up to the provider |
| 18:04.44 | Fisker | Been trying to buy a domain myself but they keep letting it expire for some dumb reason |
| 18:04.53 | Amarande | apparently it's back |
| 18:05.17 | VIad | my dns isnt updated yet, probably |
| 18:05.18 | Amarande | oh, no wonder |
| 18:05.21 | Amarande | "It seems plausible that the expiration notices from NetworkSolutions have been ..." |
| 18:05.31 | Amarande | only idiots register with netsol these days anymore, Sony :( |
| 18:05.55 | Amarande | don't they still charge like three times as much as everyone else? heh |
| 18:08.42 | Jamash | I'm a genuis: boost questing adventurer to 4/4 when played to keep priest from removing it |
| 18:09.57 | Jamash | 'course it'll be vulnerable on subsequent turns but hey |
| 18:14.33 | Amarande | Jamash: heh, that's one thing I definitely had to get used to quickly in hearthstone |
| 18:14.48 | Jamash | SWD and SWP are a pain |
| 18:14.51 | Jamash | I say this as a priest main |
| 18:14.55 | Amarande | since before this I was used to Magic, where damage doesn't normally (fuck you, Infect) stick to creatures across turns |
| 18:15.24 | Amarande | and I say "fuck you Infect" because that mechanic practically decimated the whole vintage metagame it seemed |
| 18:15.55 | Amarande | basically any deck that relied on a small number of powerful creatures (like my Desolation Angel based B/G/smattering of W deck did) was pretty much instantly rendered invalid |
| 18:16.07 | Amarande | because they'd get ground down too fast by small infecting creatures and become useless |
| 18:16.23 | Amarande | (mind you it IS nice when infect lets you destroy Indestructible creatures, but still.) |
| 18:17.42 | Amarande | it seems that persistent damage favours more zergy decks over ones based around powerful individuals |
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| 18:24.11 | Amarande | heh, from sony: "This morning's issues have begun to be resolved." |
| 18:24.22 | Amarande | DNS issues ... begun to be *resolved* ... hah |
| 18:34.37 | Jamash | oh man knife juggler ruins divine shield's day doesn't it |
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| 18:36.27 | fewyn | i hate that card |
| 18:36.30 | fewyn | so annoying |
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| 18:38.26 | Jamash | so good |
| 18:38.30 | karl_w_w | I don't remember the last time I lost to a deck containing knife juggler |
| 18:38.38 | Jamash | if a card makes you hate it, it probably belongs in your deck (if appropriate) |
| 18:38.42 | karl_w_w | but then I have barely played in over a month :P |
| 18:38.45 | Jamash | well then |
| 18:38.52 | Jamash | better do your dailies for naxx gold bro |
| 18:38.59 | karl_w_w | already got it |
| 18:39.05 | Jamash | 2800g? |
| 18:39.14 | karl_w_w | course |
| 18:39.45 | karl_w_w | i had it before the original naxx pricing rumour came out |
| 18:39.53 | Jamash | dang, I only have 800ish |
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| 18:44.40 | karl_w_w | a windows defender definition update that requires a pc restart |
| 18:44.41 | karl_w_w | wat |
| 18:44.47 | karl_w_w | u wot m8 |
| 18:44.58 | Stanzilla | screenshot or it didn't happen |
| 18:47.36 | Stanzilla | karl_w_w: which one |
| 18:47.44 | Stanzilla | I got 1.179.121.0 without restart |
| 18:47.56 | Neffi | they probably flipped the wrong switch when packaging the update |
| 18:51.41 | pompy | http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-us/94e1ffea-fbf0-46ae-b6cc-7d180b1edc17/windows-defender-why-defender-updates-demand-a-reboot |
| 18:51.48 | pompy | that guys apparent research is incorrect lol |
| 18:51.57 | pompy | there are plenty of windows updates that dont require a restart |
| 18:53.30 | Stanzilla | Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:53 PM |
| 18:53.33 | Stanzilla | classic pompy |
| 18:54.15 | pompy | yes im aware of that mr. Stanzilla |
| 18:54.34 | Stanzilla | back in the day, windows updates required a restart almost always |
| 18:55.14 | pompy | Sweet. |
| 18:57.22 | fewyn | what's a restart |
| 18:57.25 | fewyn | UPTIME: 6 days, 19 hours, 24 minutes |
| 18:57.42 | fewyn | i miss my super long uptime |
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| 19:04.13 | Neffi | https://i.imgur.com/ESWIA3h.gif |
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| 19:13.29 | karl_w_w | yeah that one Stanzilla |
| 19:13.48 | Stanzilla | weird |
| 19:14.03 | A-ko | sup |
| 19:14.33 | TC-Work | per |
| 19:16.17 | A-ko | mmmm can't wait for Memphis bbq |
| 19:31.19 | Amarande | yeah for some reason windows is a lot more aggressive about locking, which is the reason why it reboots for so many things |
| 19:31.39 | Amarande | hell even moving your my documents, my pictures &c. folder off your SSD after installation over to your storage HDD can necessitate a reboot for cleanup, as I found out |
| 19:32.07 | Amarande | (apparently, it can often leave behind stale directories in the old location for no reason, except that you can't delete these directories at all or even access them without a reboot, you always get denied access) |
| 19:32.36 | Amarande | whereas with linux, basically you can rm -rf / and it affects most already running processes precious little |
| 19:32.59 | Primer | That's why I usually boot a Linux live cd, mount the windows partition, cd into it, mkdir old, mv * old |
| 19:33.18 | Primer | if my goal is to preserve shit |
| 19:33.25 | Primer | and I only have one disk to work with |
| 19:33.42 | Primer | even with 2 disks you can't do that IN windows |
| 19:34.11 | Primer | It's just stupidity on their part. There's no reason why a file should be locked for reading, ever |
| 19:34.31 | Amarande | Primer: on Windows, you're supposed to be able to easily relocate your documents folder and such (and you SHOULD NOT relocate your users or home folder, apparently that causes problems, unlike linux where /home can be on a totally different drive without issue) |
| 19:35.10 | Amarande | it generally works just fine, except for when you're picky about disk housekeeping |
| 19:35.25 | Primer | The only problem I've encountered with what I've described above is that when copying shit back, you have to reset the ownership |
| 19:35.26 | Amarande | because it tends to leave behind the old folder and refuses to let you delete it right away, gotta reboot first to release the lock |
| 19:35.35 | Amarande | Primer: oh, yeah, that's the other thing that sucks about ntfs |
| 19:35.44 | Amarande | you can easily be told you don't own your backups, if they're on ntfs |
| 19:35.54 | Primer | indeed |
| 19:35.56 | Amarande | some people have actually had to create a user account just to restore backups with in order to make NT security happy |
| 19:36.06 | Amarande | this never happens on Linux because over there, the authority of root is absolute |
| 19:36.15 | Amarande | I'm not sure why Windows adopted such an irritating security model |
| 19:36.19 | Primer | well, claiming ownership is not as intuitive on windows |
| 19:36.25 | Primer | vendor lockin |
| 19:36.39 | Amarande | my guess is that they designed it for corporate users first and foremost, rather than personal private desktops |
| 19:36.41 | Primer | and creating work for their tech people |
| 19:36.52 | Primer | naw, you can't fix things that don't break |
| 19:36.55 | Amarande | where 1) that kind of access control is much more important |
| 19:37.03 | Primer | pfft |
| 19:37.14 | Amarande | and 2) usually you don't store all that much on client machines anyway in a corporate environment, it's all stored via Active Directory based access on servers |
| 19:37.15 | Primer | you can achieve the same level of control with basic unix permissions |
| 19:37.24 | Primer | and if that's not enough, just add ACLs |
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| 19:37.33 | Primer | which now every proper Linux fs supports |
| 19:37.53 | Amarande | Primer: well, the point is that most private desktop owners don't really need that level of fine-tuning in access control |
| 19:37.54 | Primer | heck, with shit like grsec and selinux, you can even prevent root access |
| 19:38.12 | Amarande | but in Windows you have the model forced upon you, because NT is basically developed nowadays on a one sized fits all basis and corporate customers are the main impetus |
| 19:38.33 | Amarande | at least at kernel and filesystem level, which is where NT permission systems are developed |
| 19:38.34 | Primer | no, greed is the main impetus |
| 19:38.46 | Amarande | Primer: well, yeah, but corporate customers are the main source of money |
| 19:39.07 | Amarande | OEMs pay a pittance for windows per licence, and people who buy retail Windows are in a huge minority |
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| 21:15.14 | zenzelezz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc \o/ |
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| 21:40.54 | TC-Work | Anyone know how to align a text box right in css sans float? |
| 21:41.52 | Maldivia | TC-Work: have parent hae position: relative, then the textbox position: absolute with right: 0px ? |
| 21:42.20 | Maldivia | although it's not a nice way to do it |
| 21:44.21 | TC-Work | Let me check |
| 21:44.45 | TC-Work | Well it made the text box disappear so that's kinda interesting |
| 21:46.08 | Maldivia | TC-Work: http://pastebin.com/TnSGjXC5 |
| 21:46.55 | TC-Work | Maldivia: This is what I have http://pastebin.com/ZcF0SyWQ |
| 21:47.00 | TC-Work | It's slightly complicated |
| 21:47.58 | Maldivia | yeah, have no idea where I'm suppossed to look :P |
| 21:48.19 | TC-Work | Line 270 |
| 21:48.40 | TC-Work | There are 5 text fields that I am trying to alighmn |
| 21:48.43 | TC-Work | align* |
| 21:48.49 | TC-Work | let me see if I can get a picture |
| 21:49.35 | Semlar | why can't you use float |
| 21:51.22 | TC-Work | because then it goes over the li lines |
| 21:51.41 | Semlar | you need to use clear |
| 21:52.09 | TC-Work | Tried that as well |
| 21:53.39 | Neffi | Semlar |
| 21:53.43 | Semlar | neffi |
| 21:53.52 | Neffi | getting me something good for my burfday? |
| 21:54.03 | Semlar | i got you the gift of life! |
| 21:54.10 | Neffi | I already had that tho |
| 21:54.19 | Semlar | ah but i'm actively not taking it from you |
| 21:54.29 | Neffi | how sweet of you |
| 21:54.32 | Semlar | and what's more precious than that |
| 21:54.36 | TC-Work | http://imgur.com/FYqdbMm,2NvIyvR#0 |
| 21:54.46 | TC-Work | first one is what I am trying to align |
| 21:54.53 | TC-Work | second is when I use float and clear |
| 21:56.27 | Semlar | you sure you want to right align those anyway |
| 21:56.40 | TC-Work | No, but I do want them to align somehow |
| 21:56.42 | Semlar | that could put a lot of space between the box and the label |
| 21:57.47 | TC-Work | I mean I could ghetto align them with 'tabs' but I feel there should be a more elegant way. |
| 21:58.00 | Semlar | ghetto aligning them would be using tables |
| 21:58.16 | TC-Work | Is there a better way? |
| 21:58.24 | Semlar | you can do this with float you just need to do it right |
| 21:59.09 | zenzelezz | I sometimes resort to display: table*. Works, though it could be considered "bad" |
| 22:00.29 | Maldivia | TC-Work: you want it to look something like https://www.dropbox.com/s/wmas2ug9e9eh16m/Screenshot%202014-07-16%2000.59.42.png ? |
| 22:00.48 | TC-Work | I can't access dropbox |
| 22:01.18 | Maldivia | http://imgur.com/Rf0ZDNT |
| 22:01.35 | TC-Work | Yea, but across all of them |
| 22:05.42 | Maldivia | I would probably use a grid framework for that then |
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| 22:07.40 | Maldivia | (like the scaffolding options bootstrap has etc, but I don't really do much web, so don't know what options there are out there) |
| 22:11.14 | Mr_Rabies | i don't get why minion thinks i have ARL 3.0.2 installed when i have 3.0.4 installed :( |
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| 22:15.55 | zenzelezz | I assume the .toc actually says 3.0.4 then? |
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