| 00:02.31 | Primer | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:02.43 | Primer | I can't believe the US got cocky at the end of the fucking game |
| 00:03.58 | kd3 | gah |
| 00:04.18 | Primer | The coach was frantically waving his arms asking the 3 fuckers on the attacking side of the field to go play D |
| 00:04.28 | Primer | But nooooo, they stayed on the attacking side |
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| 00:05.57 | nevcairiel | sounds like a deserved goal for port |
| 00:06.21 | kd3 | it was a good goal. it shouldn't have happened, but it was a good goal |
| 00:07.21 | Primer | Well, now the US just has to tie with Germany (hint, hint) |
| 00:07.29 | Primer | and they both go forward |
| 00:07.45 | nevcairiel | could also hope for the other two to tie |
| 00:07.59 | Primer | or for Portugal to lose :) |
| 00:08.24 | nevcairiel | port also should have a pretty lousy goal balance from the 4 goals germany got into them, so even if they win.. |
| 00:09.47 | nevcairiel | so the chances arent all bad |
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| 00:42.37 | Naptime | such a good outcome, thrusdays games are gonna be crazy they shouldn't be at the same time |
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| 00:49.13 | Primer | They have to be at the same time, otherwise shenanigans |
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| 01:13.48 | Amarande | Naptime: they have to have the group finals all at the same time |
| 01:13.59 | Amarande | Naptime: it's to prevent team collusion for match fixing |
| 01:14.21 | Amarande | they used to do the last day at different times like earlier in the group round |
| 01:14.58 | Amarande | it resulted in teams colluding to fabricate desired outcomes (i.e., arranging their preferred eliminations and seeds) |
| 01:15.18 | Naptime | i guess that makes sense |
| 01:17.13 | Arrowmaster | i think i may be crazy if i try to pull off this weekend im planing next week |
| 01:17.19 | Arrowmaster | not week, next month |
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| 01:19.46 | Arrowmaster | do my 1.5 hour drive to work in the morning, drive another 1 hour away after work to goto a 2 day lan party but only spend one day, drive 3.25 hours to a different overnight event, and finally 1 hour back home sunday morning |
| 01:20.01 | Arrowmaster | it sounds so fucking crazy but it could be worth it |
| 01:20.39 | Naptime | you can have it |
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| 01:22.46 | Arrowmaster | maybe i should reconsider this at a later date when im not still on a mental high from how awesome my weekend was |
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| 01:30.21 | Thunder_Child | What exactly is the point of lan parties anymore? |
| 01:30.41 | kd3 | social drinking with friends? |
| 01:30.43 | Arrowmaster | hanging out |
| 01:30.52 | Thunder_Child | ew, drinking and friends. |
| 01:31.27 | Thunder_Child | It's not really hanging out if everyone is on their machine |
| 01:31.27 | nevcairiel | Yeah its really all about social these days |
| 01:31.29 | Thunder_Child | imo |
| 01:31.42 | kd3 | the drinking is between matches |
| 01:31.49 | Arrowmaster | i have to be careful drinking, everything i like is higher abv so i cant have as much |
| 01:31.49 | kd3 | and during matches |
| 01:33.06 | relaxok | guys, what is the 'update' function that you see a lot? |
| 01:33.11 | relaxok | all lweorcase |
| 01:33.12 | relaxok | lowercase* |
| 01:33.29 | kd3 | OnUpdate? that event fires every frame draw |
| 01:33.30 | relaxok | is that something that's set in a table or is it supposed to always exist |
| 01:33.32 | relaxok | no |
| 01:33.36 | relaxok | just :update |
| 01:33.51 | Arrowmaster | thats just a local function name thats commonly used |
| 01:34.10 | relaxok | k |
| 01:35.32 | Amarande | yay, replacement case and motherboard ordered |
| 01:35.38 | Amarande | hopefully newegg is as quick as usual |
| 01:35.51 | Amarande | I still cannot figure out why the sound out died |
| 01:36.14 | Amarande | Arrowmaster, drunk gaming is happy gaming |
| 01:36.21 | Amarande | I used to drink all the time back when I raided in ICC |
| 01:36.30 | kd3 | as long as it's playable drunk, not fall-down drunk |
| 01:36.56 | Amarande | kd3: in my experience I get queasy drunk before I get nonfunctional blackout drunk, anyway |
| 01:37.06 | Amarande | and since I don't like to puke, I stop at the first sign of queasy, heh |
| 01:38.07 | relaxok | where is PVPMicroButton's DisabledTexture set? |
| 01:39.39 | relaxok | in MainMenuBarMicroButtons.xml, the scripts tag sets the Normal/Pushed/Highlight texture, but nto disabled |
| 01:39.40 | relaxok | not* |
| 01:41.22 | nevcairiel | Sure it does |
| 01:41.58 | nevcairiel | I just searched the file for DisableTexture and found it in 5 seconds |
| 01:42.07 | nevcairiel | +d |
| 01:44.34 | relaxok | uh |
| 01:44.35 | relaxok | nope? |
| 01:46.27 | relaxok | the only SetDisabledTexture there is for MainMenuMicroButton |
| 01:46.56 | kd3 | the LoadMicroButtonTextures function in MMBMB.lua |
| 01:47.47 | relaxok | thanks |
| 01:47.57 | relaxok | damn, how the hell am i not running that |
| 01:48.34 | nevcairiel | that function is never called for the pvp button |
| 01:48.41 | nevcairiel | are you sure it even has a disabled texture? :p |
| 01:48.58 | kd3 | it should, that "feature" unlocks at level 10 iirc |
| 01:49.13 | nevcairiel | doesnt it just hide the button otherwise |
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| 01:51.59 | nevcairiel | seems like it just desaturates in OnDisable |
| 01:52.02 | relaxok | you guys have been awesome, i would never get this far without some other eyes |
| 01:52.02 | nevcairiel | doubt it actually has one |
| 01:52.28 | nevcairiel | since it uses the faction icon for the button |
| 01:53.44 | nevcairiel | yeah it sets alpha and desats, it doesnt have one |
| 01:54.07 | relaxok | oh shit i found my bug |
| 01:54.23 | relaxok | or one of them |
| 01:54.24 | relaxok | http://pastie.org/private/uno9jx0woxisx8oemsjbea |
| 01:54.58 | nevcairiel | seems like your check is the wrong way around |
| 01:55.08 | nevcairiel | but the pvp button still doesnt have one |
| 01:55.37 | Amarande | yeah, why does the pvp button not show up till level 10, anyway? |
| 01:55.37 | Amarande | although I can't remember if some patch made it impossible to flag until then or not |
| 01:55.45 | Amarande | like how D2 won't let you flag until 9 |
| 01:55.57 | nevcairiel | the button brings up the bg finder, no bgs before 10 |
| 01:56.11 | relaxok | yeah nev that was it, but yeah still a problem.. still looking |
| 01:56.20 | Amarande | if you can flag, wonder what happens if you somehow end up with honour points before level 10, if it will unlock then like how achievements used to |
| 01:56.58 | relaxok | http://pastie.org/private/dd8idmrlilotzidmamgavg |
| 01:56.59 | relaxok | odd |
| 01:57.00 | Amarande | (used to be achievements somehow were a feature that didn't activate till level 10, but if you obtained one before then, it activated then and there) |
| 01:57.13 | nevcairiel | if the pvp button doesnt look right, then you either dont handle alpha or desat properly |
| 01:57.30 | relaxok | so yeah it's that SetDesaturation |
| 01:57.31 | relaxok | with a null texture |
| 02:00.38 | nevcairiel | why would it be a null teture |
| 02:00.51 | nevcairiel | maybe you lack support for "parentKey" on texture objects? |
| 02:01.27 | Simca_ | or texture atlases if you're loading the WoD UI |
| 02:01.53 | nevcairiel | texture atlases? |
| 02:02.29 | relaxok | i'll know soon |
| 02:02.33 | relaxok | i do support parentkey though |
| 02:02.59 | Simca_ | they store hundreds of textures in big BLPs that are 512x512/256x256 in WoD and have 2 new db2 files that map out names to coordinates in these big pictures and take out small regions |
| 02:03.01 | nevcairiel | parentkey would set PVPMicroButton.texture, which is used in the SetDesaturation call |
| 02:03.28 | Simca_ | pet battle UI uses like 2 BLPs now |
| 02:03.29 | nevcairiel | texture atlas is a silly name, the common word is sprites |
| 02:03.55 | nevcairiel | at least thats what the web world calls usage of such on web sites to limit image usage |
| 02:04.02 | Simca_ | yeah, it's :SetTextureAtlas, :GetTextureAtlas, though |
| 02:04.12 | relaxok | im using MoP/live ui files at the moment |
| 02:04.22 | nevcairiel | they actually have functions for that? |
| 02:04.25 | relaxok | but im sure ill have to support that |
| 02:04.25 | relaxok | soon |
| 02:04.48 | nevcairiel | its not like its a new feature, they used it before with manual matrix mapping |
| 02:05.09 | Simca_ | it's new that the use is so widespread though |
| 02:05.25 | nevcairiel | guess they tried to optimize it by use of those functions |
| 02:05.41 | nevcairiel | texcoords get annoying fast |
| 02:05.54 | Simca_ | yeah, that's probably it |
| 02:06.29 | relaxok | http://bh.polpo.org/ui_ip_5.png |
| 02:06.31 | relaxok | slowly but surely |
| 02:07.58 | nevcairiel | you dont have any micro buttons, why did you think the disable texture was a problem :D |
| 02:08.04 | relaxok | haha |
| 02:08.07 | relaxok | not so |
| 02:08.41 | relaxok | just not drawing atm |
| 02:09.06 | relaxok | the most time consuming thing is having to parse the entire toc up to the point of the stuff you need to view |
| 02:09.12 | relaxok | in debug |
| 02:10.50 | nevcairiel | set conditional breakpoints |
| 02:11.20 | Shirik | conditional breakpoints make me cry |
| 02:11.45 | nevcairiel | super useful! |
| 02:12.02 | nevcairiel | if all else fails, make your own if condition in the code and set the breakpoint on its body or something :P |
| 02:12.14 | Shirik | I live in a real-time world. Conditional breakpoints destroy any inkling of real performance :P |
| 02:12.16 | nevcairiel | this usually helps if your condition is too complicated for the breakpoint to work |
| 02:12.44 | relaxok | i have them nev but i still have to run everything up to that point or things break |
| 02:12.52 | relaxok | like if you don't run all the OnLoads in order, various things break |
| 02:13.11 | Simca_ | the one feature i miss from lua for C++ is making block comments |
| 02:13.27 | Simca_ | very useful for cutting out huge sections of code very quickly to debug |
| 02:13.32 | Shirik | the problem is the way conditional breakpoints are implemented is that the debugger injects a software interrupt at the conditional breakpoint spot, a context switch to the debugger occurs, it tests that condition, and then prompts the user if the condition is hit |
| 02:13.33 | nevcairiel | you mean like ../* ..*/ ? |
| 02:13.33 | Simca_ | without actually moving them |
| 02:13.41 | Shirik | Simca_: --[[ ... ]] |
| 02:14.01 | nevcairiel | i understood it that he misses them in C++ |
| 02:14.09 | nevcairiel | but in any case, both languages have them |
| 02:14.22 | Simca_ | hmm, yeah, i never knew that nev |
| 02:14.24 | Simca_ | useful |
| 02:14.32 | Shirik | C++ is slightly worse than Lua |
| 02:14.39 | Shirik | but in the general case they both exist, yeah |
| 02:14.53 | Shirik | Lua has the benefit of being able to wrap around multi-line comments, whereas C++ doesn't |
| 02:14.54 | nevcairiel | it gets slightly annoying if you use /* */ comments for everything |
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| 02:15.11 | nevcairiel | but if you use // for normal comments, you can still use /* for these cases :P |
| 02:15.29 | Shirik | and if you don't use // for normal comments, you deserve the problems you get |
| 02:15.32 | Simca_ | seems like it'd be a big waste of typing time to use /* */ for everything |
| 02:15.45 | Shirik | in C89, that was all you had |
| 02:15.47 | nevcairiel | usually your IDE will just make that much easier |
| 02:15.48 | Shirik | there was no // |
| 02:16.01 | Shirik | some people never got used to the new style |
| 02:16.20 | Shirik | also, there are some valid use cases |
| 02:16.28 | airtonix | you suck Shirik |
| 02:16.49 | nevcairiel | i use /* */ sometimes for in the middle of the line comments, although thats mostly just temporary for testing |
| 02:16.54 | Shirik | for example, putting comments in the middle of parameter lists |
| 02:17.00 | nevcairiel | like if (/* condition*/ 1) |
| 02:17.25 | nevcairiel | its really handy for testing sometimes :p |
| 02:17.32 | airtonix | you're the worst kind nevcairiel. inline comments? sheesh |
| 02:17.45 | nevcairiel | its not a comment really, its commented out code! |
| 02:18.11 | airtonix | if I had a spare clip and a medpack, i wouldn't give you the cookie |
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| 02:52.15 | relaxok | im trying to figure out how Texture and NormalTexture/PushedTexture etc interact |
| 02:52.18 | relaxok | in Buttons |
| 02:52.56 | kd3 | pushed happens while the mouse button is actually down in the process of a click |
| 02:53.06 | relaxok | if you look at CharacterMicroButton in MainMenuBarMicroButtons.xml |
| 02:53.11 | relaxok | it defines <Texture> |
| 02:53.12 | relaxok | but with no graphic |
| 02:53.31 | relaxok | called "MicroButtonPortrait" |
| 02:53.34 | kd3 | the character button dynamically changes based on your equipped gear |
| 02:53.55 | kd3 | the pushed graphic should just be the border iirc |
| 02:54.26 | relaxok | it's just hard for me to define the relationship between a button's Texture and NormalTexture |
| 02:54.33 | relaxok | considering a NormalTexture is not just a filenaem and can have anchors etc too |
| 02:54.39 | relaxok | so it's really a complete element |
| 02:56.00 | relaxok | then there's ActionBarUpButton |
| 02:56.13 | relaxok | which doesnt define <Texture> at all but does have the filenames for Normal/Disabled/etc |
| 02:56.39 | relaxok | weird |
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| 03:07.07 | nevcairiel | normal texture is just the one shown when none of the others apply, in many cases its just used as a border of sorts, while in the middle of the button is another texture with the actual icon |
| 03:07.22 | nevcairiel | the border makes up the "press" effect, so you have a normal texture and a pushedtexture |
| 03:07.59 | nevcairiel | but the extra texture in the middle is not mandatory at all |
| 03:08.58 | nevcairiel | you can think of a button having one "native" texture, which can be in different states based on what the button is doing, thats Normal/Pushed/DisabledTexture |
| 03:09.15 | nevcairiel | anything else is just additional layers on top for style |
| 03:10.06 | nevcairiel | simple buttons like ActionBarUpButton dont need the fancy extra style |
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| 03:10.47 | nevcairiel | micromenubuttons on the other hand use it, since they have a generic layout (the border and push effect, etc), and a specific icon in the middle (the extra Texture you're seeing) |
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| 03:39.20 | relaxok | nevcairiel: okay, good info |
| 03:39.24 | relaxok | will try to keep in mind |
| 03:39.37 | relaxok | right now im trying to figure out if the names of the xml files has any bearing on anything |
| 03:39.46 | relaxok | or is it arbitrary |
| 03:39.51 | relaxok | like there's no lua global named after the filename is there? |
| 03:40.11 | relaxok | i'm wondering because you have something like BasicControls.xml which defines BasicScriptErrors frame |
| 03:40.18 | relaxok | which isn't a virtual frame, but has no parent |
| 03:40.24 | relaxok | is that the same thing as having UIParent as a parent? |
| 03:40.34 | Simca_ | yes |
| 03:40.43 | relaxok | i assumed the UI just drew UIParent and any of the things you see are things with it as a parent that aren't hidden |
| 03:41.01 | relaxok | okay cool |
| 03:42.04 | relaxok | but UIParent isnt defined yet hmm |
| 03:43.15 | Simca_ | I would imagine it is defined in C, or at least has some sort of forward declaration |
| 03:43.32 | Simca_ | but somebody else might know more |
| 03:43.46 | relaxok | it's very close to the top of the .toc |
| 03:43.48 | relaxok | but not quite |
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| 03:55.49 | nevcairiel | You can definitely have frames without a parent |
| 03:55.59 | nevcairiel | I doubt UIParent is implicit |
| 03:56.21 | Iriel | It’s probably placed in the global environment implicitly |
| 03:56.27 | Iriel | which is what he’s talking about |
| 03:56.34 | Iriel | ? |
| 03:57.21 | Iriel | Actually ignore me, having read back over the conversation. |
| 03:57.33 | relaxok | well using BasicScriptErrors as an example |
| 03:57.40 | relaxok | its a Frame without a parent that's defined before UIParent |
| 03:57.47 | Iriel | Aren’t parentless frames just peers of UIParent? |
| 03:58.06 | nevcairiel | You don't need a parent frame |
| 03:58.21 | nevcairiel | Its usually a good idea to have one, but you don't need to |
| 03:58.39 | Simca_ | You would have to define the frame explicitly with 'nil' for the parent arg, then? |
| 03:58.50 | Simca_ | (because if you omit it, it defaults to UIParent) |
| 03:58.56 | nevcairiel | This is xml |
| 03:59.08 | relaxok | ~what does it anchor to? |
| 04:00.03 | nevcairiel | Anchors and parents don't need to be related. And maybe some lua script sets anchors later |
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| 04:03.46 | nevcairiel | This one in particular doesn't look like its really all that much used |
| 04:04.48 | Simca_ | it's the one that pops up at the exact center of the screen when there is a lua error if lua errors are enabled, yeah? |
| 04:06.04 | Simca_ | it's likely that the devs decoupled it from UIParent intentionally because if the UI fails to load, you wouldn't be able to see the error message if it required UIParent to be visible |
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| 04:09.15 | Fisker | h e y nevcairiel |
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| 09:30.57 | Mr_Rabies | realize you updated it like 4 days ago but it's one of my favorite new addons, it owns everyone should use it |
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| 11:49.48 | Kalroth | smack my Fisker up |
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| 11:52.17 | Fisker | no Kalroth |
| 11:53.39 | Kalroth | y no |
| 11:54.43 | Fisker | y not? |
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| 12:57.16 | airtonix | Fisker: because you might get a list of aircraft carriers when you really asked for telephone carriers |
| 12:58.27 | karl_w_w | today I met a guy who doesn't know what freezing point is |
| 12:58.40 | karl_w_w | in either celsius or farenheit |
| 12:58.54 | karl_w_w | with more hs |
| 12:59.03 | airtonix | heliostatics? |
| 12:59.05 | karl_w_w | chelsius |
| 12:59.17 | airtonix | geordy alert |
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| 13:57.11 | jleclanche | is there a reverse sudo |
| 13:57.14 | jleclanche | like |
| 13:57.30 | jleclanche | "Execute this with less privileges than I really have" |
| 13:57.37 | jleclanche | (without creating another user tho) |
| 13:57.49 | fewyn | no... at least i've never heard of that |
| 13:58.00 | fewyn | because how would it know what permissions to use |
| 13:58.02 | nevcairiel | doesnt a nix system ujsually have a buttload of users to choose from |
| 13:58.04 | fewyn | without a user existing |
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| 13:58.43 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: my use case: I want the permissions of the "users" group, but I dont have users in that group and I dont want to create a new user |
| 13:58.49 | jleclanche | but I want to be able to do things like makepkg |
| 13:58.56 | jleclanche | which is extremely insecure as root |
| 13:59.00 | nevcairiel | not possible |
| 13:59.12 | jleclanche | not possible or does not exist yet? |
| 13:59.28 | nevcairiel | the whole permission system on nix is built around a user |
| 13:59.46 | jleclanche | this seems like a case where a temporary user could be created |
| 14:00.23 | jleclanche | odus <group> <command> |
| 14:00.30 | nevcairiel | you could try "sg", no idea if it really works properly and drops the root permissions |
| 14:00.32 | jleclanche | creates a temporary user in that group, executes the command, deletes the user |
| 14:00.40 | nevcairiel | its like su, just with a g |
| 14:00.53 | jleclanche | ha, hm |
| 14:01.15 | nevcairiel | i would guess it doesn't drop the root permissions tho |
| 14:01.37 | jleclanche | yeah i dont think it would |
| 14:11.31 | Maldivia | shouldn't be too hard to create an odus script though |
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| 14:19.18 | nevcairiel | seems like a rather fragile idea to create a temporary user, may as well create a permanent user for that use-case |
| 14:20.14 | karl_w_w | fuck me kourabiedes are so good |
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| 14:26.46 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 14:27.13 | airtonix | nevcairiel: it's not a simple thing to reverse what sudo does? |
| 14:27.37 | airtonix | nevcairiel: what about calling the logic that causes the effect sudo has to expire? |
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| 15:19.19 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy |
| 15:21.55 | Lopeppeppy | Morning Fisker. Heya, alestane. |
| 15:23.06 | dusf123 | i have created a launcher and it works great, but if i add this argument about threaded optimizations it gives the error 'there was an error launchign the application', and it does this whether or not the launch is set to run the command or run the command in a launcher. strangely, if i run the same command manually in terminal it works fine, this is the command: __GL_THREADED_OPTIMIZATIONS=1 wine "C:\\Program Files\\World of Warcraft\\Wow.exe" -opengl |
| 15:23.12 | dusf123 | any idea how i can make the ubuntu launcher not give the error? |
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| 15:44.40 | dusf123 | prefixing with env resolved that |
| 15:52.36 | Lopeppeppy | There is a vending machine for gold bars. I need one. |
| 15:52.59 | Fisker | nah Lopeppeppy |
| 15:53.04 | Fisker | You need a car or so I've heard |
| 15:53.50 | Lopeppeppy | That's why I want the gold vending machine. |
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| 15:56.12 | Fisker | Priorities Lopeppeppy |
| 15:56.33 | Fisker | You can't say you're not going to Blizzcon because you want a card, and then say you want a gold bar vending machine instead |
| 15:56.53 | Lopeppeppy | The vending machine will provide me with the gold to buy the car. A brilliant scheme. |
| 15:57.37 | Fisker | Will you at least go to blizzcon then? |
| 15:59.38 | Lopeppeppy | If I have a new car, yes. :) |
| 16:00.06 | Fisker | how much is it? |
| 16:02.06 | Lopeppeppy | Saving toward 10K. |
| 16:02.11 | nevcairiel | vending machines are typically not in the habbit of giving out free stuff |
| 16:02.50 | Lopeppeppy | .... bollocks. |
| 16:04.03 | alestane | Is Eric getting long in the tooth, Peppy? |
| 16:05.22 | Lopeppeppy | My commute is an hour each way, alestane. I am putting a LOT of miles on him, fast. |
| 16:06.09 | Fisker | O_O |
| 16:06.10 | nevcairiel | your car is called Eric? |
| 16:06.15 | Fisker | no her ride is |
| 16:07.23 | Fisker | https://www.google.co.uk/glass/start/ though nevcairiel |
| 16:07.33 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, nevcairiel - Eric the Cavalier. |
| 16:07.56 | Fisker | I'm eating food |
| 16:08.38 | Unkle | Lopeppeppy: Not "Uni"? |
| 16:08.59 | nevcairiel | fisker the glasshole? |
| 16:09.04 | Fisker | no u |
| 16:09.42 | Lopeppeppy | Nope, no unicorns in my life, Unkle. More's the pity. |
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| 16:11.02 | Lopeppeppy | After all, his shield is almost as great as Captain America's. |
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| 16:16.09 | Unkle | Lopeppeppy: I think a bunch of the episodes of that show are on YouTube. |
| 16:16.34 | Lopeppeppy | It's totally classic, Unkle. I loved it. |
| 16:17.02 | Unkle | Lopeppeppy: it was a guilty pleasure in jr. high. |
| 16:17.33 | Lopeppeppy | I love that we share guilty pleasures! *laugh* |
| 16:18.16 | Fisker | Are you watching my little pony? |
| 16:20.16 | Lopeppeppy | .... no. Never. I am not a bronie enabler. |
| 16:20.58 | Unkle | One of my dearest friends - she's a huge fan of the show. She keeps threatening to make me watch it next time I visit her and her husband. |
| 16:21.06 | airtonix | how much runway does a bronie enabler have ? |
| 16:21.49 | Fisker | Good Lopeppeppy |
| 16:21.58 | Fisker | Then why are you talking about unicorns though? |
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| 16:24.17 | Unkle | Because "Eric the Cavalier" was a character in a show - and there was a baby unicorn named "Uni" in the show. |
| 16:25.15 | Lopeppeppy | Unicorns are only good in stew. |
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| 16:34.45 | TC-Work | I dunno Lopeppeppy, baked unicorn is kinda awesome. |
| 16:35.10 | Lopeppeppy | Gets too dry too easily, TC, kind of like pork chops. If you don't undercook it, it's automagically ruined. |
| 16:35.46 | Fisker | Horsemeat is a great replacement for cowmeat |
| 16:35.54 | jnwhiteh | FINDUS |
| 16:36.21 | Fisker | shh jnwhiteh |
| 16:36.24 | Fisker | don't tell people |
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| 16:54.03 | karl_w_w | how can I copy every single file except one on a hard drive to another hard drive? :P |
| 16:55.10 | karl_w_w | robocopy |
| 16:55.19 | Lopeppeppy | Select them all, and then just manually unselect the one file? |
| 16:55.57 | fewyn | i think http://store.steampowered.com/promotion/summer2014faq/ is rigged |
| 16:56.06 | karl_w_w | that would only work if the one file was in the root |
| 16:56.11 | karl_w_w | but robocopy will do it |
| 16:56.57 | Fisker | It is fewyn |
| 16:57.09 | Fisker | Could've done a search karl_w_w |
| 16:57.39 | karl_w_w | ooh pink is my team! |
| 16:58.33 | Shirik | oh my god |
| 16:58.35 | Shirik | what is this |
| 16:58.37 | Shirik | http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/06/23/world-of-warcraft-pandaren-reaches-level-90-without-leaving-starting-zone/ |
| 16:58.55 | Lopeppeppy | It's a Groundhog Day reboot, with a panda instead of Bill Murray. |
| 16:59.17 | fewyn | neutralagent |
| 16:59.34 | fewyn | just think about all the things you could have done instead of that |
| 17:00.14 | fewyn | i'm not someone who should talk though http://uplol.fewyn.net/2014-06-23_13-00-06.png |
| 17:01.19 | p3lim | I'm too scared of running that addon on my account |
| 17:01.44 | p3lim | I've got single characters with close to your total |
| 17:02.00 | Unkle | Does anyone remember the troll back in TBC who leveled to 60 without ever wearing any armor or using any weapon? |
| 17:02.30 | p3lim | I remember a mage hitting 80 without getting any achievement except the 8 achievements for each 10th level |
| 17:02.46 | p3lim | So, no quest, no mount, no exploration, nothing |
| 17:06.50 | mikma | fewyn: he, i once made addon like that |
| 17:07.03 | karl_w_w | oh my gosh my team won and I got games from my wishlist! |
| 17:07.08 | karl_w_w | by buying them! |
| 17:07.53 | Shirik | thwacks karl_w_w |
| 17:07.59 | karl_w_w | in other news, I think I have voted for the losing community choice every single time |
| 17:09.33 | fewyn | lol |
| 17:11.03 | pompy1 | http://blog.malwarebytes.org/fraud-scam/2014/06/this-dropbox-phish-is-not-after-your-dropbox-creds/ >< |
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| 17:17.56 | Lopeppeppy | Football is already in the news, yaaay! |
| 17:23.38 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: "already"? |
| 17:27.01 | Lopeppeppy | First season games are in September. |
| 17:27.27 | nevcairiel | zenzelezz: remember them americans, they dont use the same words as the rest of the world |
| 17:34.54 | zenzelezz | oh, right |
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| 18:04.34 | Stanzilla | p3lim: that galakras doesnt work right, it just shows me sha loot :D I guess the api call just gives you what boos you looked at last |
| 18:05.10 | p3lim | It's supposed to pick the proper instance and proper encounter, but I'll take a look at it again |
| 18:05.13 | Stanzilla | *hack |
| 18:05.14 | Neffi | holy cosplay https://imgur.com/gallery/FUeIP |
| 18:05.20 | Neffi | (sfw) |
| 18:05.34 | p3lim | That is some serious makeup |
| 18:05.45 | Neffi | aye. that might be the best cosplay I've ever seen |
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| 18:15.21 | Neffi | https://i.imgur.com/MNLMnaf.jpg murrica |
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| 18:45.58 | Cairenn | Whoa! (the cosplay) |
| 18:49.33 | karl_w_w | http://www.smh.com.au/act-news/antibiotics-wont-cure-colds-or-flu-20140623-zsizi.html retards |
| 18:56.30 | nevcairiel | antibiotics are freely available in AU? |
| 18:56.51 | nevcairiel | because if not, how would they ever get their hands on the stuff? |
| 18:57.03 | karl_w_w | leftover prescriptions |
| 18:57.12 | karl_w_w | or other peoples prescriptions |
| 18:57.23 | kd3 | which is a problem globally |
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| 19:16.45 | Gnarfoz | what is? |
| 19:18.10 | kd3 | people not finishing their antibiotic regimen because they feel better and getting bacteria resistance to those antibiotics? |
| 19:18.37 | kd3 | s/getting bacteria resistance/giving the bacteria in their system they haven't killed resistance/ |
| 19:23.01 | g0urra | huh, free faction changes |
| 19:26.08 | Neffi | kd3: Stopping the antibiotics shouldn't cause antibiotic resistance. It's the use of antibiotics that causes resistance. That gives the bacterium selective pressure to adapt. |
| 19:26.51 | Neffi | As I understand it, antibiotic resistance is primarily because of the overuse of antibiotics when they're not necessary. Overall, there's much more selective pressure in the world of bacteria than there ought to be. |
| 19:29.01 | Neffi | Hell, if you think about it, maybe stopping early is good. Antibiotic resistance probably crops up randomly, and genetically drifts. Letting your body kill off those bacteria is probably better than introducing antibiotics that lower the population cap, giving the resistant ones room to thrive |
| 19:30.08 | Neffi | Or would it be raise the population cap? Anyway, kill off the non-resistant ones, raising the population cap specifically for the resistant ones. Bah |
| 19:31.28 | nevcairiel | someone should find a cure for the cold already, then people wouldn't need to take the wrong medicine anymore |
| 19:32.22 | Neffi | But many different species cause the cold. That's not possible, or even good to do. Unless sarcasm, then hah! |
| 19:41.10 | ccox | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KvxOuC7Bhc |
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| 19:48.41 | jleclanche | In Road To Qt, Audacious Switches From GTK3 Back To GTK2 |
| 19:48.42 | jleclanche | oh |
| 19:48.44 | jleclanche | oh man |
| 19:48.59 | jleclanche | this is like salt in gtk's wounds |
| 19:50.32 | Neffi | I think the GTK devs will see this as a positive thing. Like, it's helping protect their brand by trimming off developers that don't follow it |
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| 19:59.06 | foxlit | Neffi: Hell, if you think about it, maybe stopping early is good. << Boo. Hiss. |
| 19:59.55 | foxlit | Neffi probably tries to poison people by subjecting them to very-gradually increasing doses of venom. |
| 20:04.32 | Neffi | how did you know that!? |
| 20:04.38 | Gnarfoz | <purl> kd3 meant: people not finishing their antibiotic regimen because they feel better and giving the bacteria in their system they haven't killed resistance to those antibiotics? <-- they what |
| 20:05.06 | Gnarfoz | why would you do that |
| 20:06.00 | Neffi | A lot of people do that. I would say most, but Americans are probably not representative of the population at large |
| 20:06.29 | Gnarfoz | I asked /why/ |
| 20:06.47 | Neffi | Because they feel better and dont think it's necessary |
| 20:06.50 | Gnarfoz | (and you're obviously not in position to claim any numbers) |
| 20:07.35 | nevcairiel | doctor tells you to take your antibiotics for x days, but your prescription size came for x+2 days (you know, since the have preset sizes), so you have stuff left over and you take it when you get a flue, which doesn't help the flue, but helps your bacteria to build a resistance |
| 20:07.38 | Neffi | It's a known problem around here. Doctors usually give very explicit advice not to stop them early, because it's pretty common among Americans |
| 20:07.51 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: that's not what I was asking about |
| 20:08.04 | nevcairiel | you are being very confusing |
| 20:08.07 | Gnarfoz | no I'm not |
| 20:08.08 | nevcairiel | and acting confused |
| 20:08.22 | Gnarfoz | I asked why people would stop their therapy when they think it's best |
| 20:08.31 | Gnarfoz | rather than listen to, say, their doctor? |
| 20:08.34 | kd3|hate`net | because they're lazy? |
| 20:08.35 | nevcairiel | the answer is obviously "because they think its best" |
| 20:08.43 | Gnarfoz | so, because they're morons |
| 20:08.45 | Gnarfoz | I get it |
| 20:08.51 | nevcairiel | nah, muricans |
| 20:09.05 | Gnarfoz | I didn't say that :| |
| 20:09.17 | nevcairiel | its ok, Neffi did |
| 20:09.25 | Neffi | Being marketed to by pharmeceuticals (fuck I can never spell that) probably empowers them to believe they know enough to not follow direction |
| 20:09.54 | Neffi | I mean, we're told all the time that it's up to us to tell our doctors we want X medication, by adverts |
| 20:10.12 | nevcairiel | in any case, the real problem is that people have left overs (for whatever reason) and use it to self-medicate for stuff like the flu, where it doesn't do shit |
| 20:10.37 | Gnarfoz | I don't see how having left-overs results in people stopping therapy early (which results in said left-overs) but... |
| 20:11.00 | nevcairiel | stopping early is just one reason for people having spare meds around |
| 20:11.18 | Gnarfoz | I must have missed something, since you seem to be talking about something else |
| 20:11.22 | Gnarfoz | Neffi: well... yeah, that might do it |
| 20:11.35 | nevcairiel | kd3's argument for bacterial resistance seemed a bit flimmsy |
| 20:11.46 | kd3 | the doc gives you a 15-day supply. you feel better on day 5. a (non-negligible) amount of people stop on day 5-6, even though the bacteria hasn't actually been fully killed |
| 20:11.55 | Esamynn|work | ^ |
| 20:11.58 | Gnarfoz | i.e. morons |
| 20:11.59 | Gnarfoz | ok |
| 20:12.00 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:12.01 | nevcairiel | the original topic was australians self-medicating with antibiotics, and where they got them |
| 20:12.05 | kd3 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibiotic_resistance#Mechanisms_of_antibiotic_resistance |
| 20:12.06 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: aha! |
| 20:12.13 | Gnarfoz | must have missed that |
| 20:12.21 | nevcairiel | [13:49:33] <karl_w_w> http://www.smh.com.au/act-news/antibiotics-wont-cure-colds-or-flu-20140623-zsizi.html retards |
| 20:13.02 | Gnarfoz | is "meds are expensive, if I stop taking them now, I'll have some left over for when I'm sick next time (even though these might not be the appropriate meds)" a factor? |
| 20:13.09 | kd3 | yes |
| 20:13.30 | Gnarfoz | :S |
| 20:13.49 | nevcairiel | i guess thats a concept we germans will never really understand |
| 20:13.50 | Gnarfoz | and you have more than enough people who think public healthcare is the devil's work |
| 20:14.27 | karl_w_w | that's a solely american thing |
| 20:14.29 | nevcairiel | i dont really remember if i had to pay anything for my last antibiotics, and if something at all, it sure wasn't all that expensive |
| 20:14.49 | karl_w_w | some americans seem to think if people can't afford to keep themselves alive they don't deserve to live |
| 20:15.05 | nevcairiel | i guess thats as good as an explanation as any |
| 20:15.08 | Neffi | Let me correct you, karl_w_w |
| 20:15.10 | Gnarfoz | well, that's population control of the more crude kind |
| 20:15.31 | Neffi | Some Americans feel like people poorer than them don't deserve to live. And will way good money to convince those poor that it's true |
| 20:15.46 | Gnarfoz | in the end, freedom includes being free to be an idiot \o/ |
| 20:16.18 | nevcairiel | i need to be nice to the muricans, i'm still here for a bit |
| 20:16.48 | Gnarfoz | they've already read all your hateful private correspondence anyway |
| 20:16.59 | Esamynn|work | haha |
| 20:17.02 | nevcairiel | i should figure out where i'm going to get dinner today |
| 20:17.09 | Gnarfoz | you wouldn't be there if they thought you'd be a problem |
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| 20:20.47 | nevcairiel | yeah probably not going to be stopped trying to leave the country :p |
| 20:21.02 | Esamynn|work | foolish mortal! :P |
| 20:21.26 | nevcairiel | foolish canadian |
| 20:21.39 | Esamynn|work | guilty |
| 20:22.26 | nevcairiel | i met quite a bunch of canadians on my flight over here, sounded like you guys don't have all that many international air ports so many have to fly over the US |
| 20:23.23 | Esamynn|work | we don't have many cities big enough to justify an international airport |
| 20:26.43 | Dashkal | Many fly over the US for a different reason as well: It's faster. Look at a globe. |
| 20:26.50 | Dashkal | We're mostly crammed up against the border. |
| 20:27.18 | Esamynn|work | what is it? 90% of us live within 100 miles of the US border? |
| 20:27.28 | Dashkal | Sounds about right |
| 20:27.38 | Dashkal | I'm about a half hour drive from the border right now |
| 20:27.42 | nevcairiel | i dunno, if you come from europe, you fly over canada anyway because of the globe, if there were an airport there.. |
| 20:28.09 | Dashkal | Well, we have airports all over the place. Just not enough population in most cities to justify direct flights. |
| 20:28.35 | Esamynn|work | checking quickly |
| 20:28.40 | nevcairiel | i suppose its not that bad as US->CA flights are practically considered regional |
| 20:28.44 | Esamynn|work | we have about 9 cities of more then 1/2 million ppl |
| 20:28.57 | Esamynn|work | in the 2nd largest country in the world (by area) |
| 20:29.22 | Dashkal | Yep. In the in the third largest with a whopping 2M people including suburbs. |
| 20:29.26 | Esamynn|work | only 6 over a million |
| 20:29.35 | foxlit | how much of that area is more than 5 meters above sea level? |
| 20:29.40 | Dashkal | Lots of land. Much of it not super friendly to population growth :P |
| 20:30.00 | Esamynn|work | Dashkal: Vancouver is big enough, we should prevent more ppl from figuring out how wonderful it is here ;) |
| 20:30.06 | Dashkal | Much of it, I suspect. On the pacific we're a crumpled up piece of paper due to nomming on the pacific. |
| 20:30.08 | foxlit | Because if the answer is “most of it”, fire up the coal power plants. |
| 20:30.13 | Dashkal | Esamynn|work: Hah! |
| 20:30.23 | nevcairiel | heh foxlit |
| 20:30.44 | nevcairiel | i'll send all the dutch over |
| 20:31.04 | foxlit | the fun thing is that all the dutch would fit in like one city. |
| 20:31.33 | foxlit | okay, maybe two. |
| 20:31.39 | nevcairiel | a big city tho, they are still like 16 million people |
| 20:31.44 | Esamynn|work | we could just set them to building dikes, they'd make their own land :P |
| 20:32.23 | Dashkal | By Canadian standards, that's like 8 whole cities worth :P |
| 20:32.30 | Esamynn|work | ^ |
| 20:32.52 | nevcairiel | moving all the dutch to canada would boost your population by 50%, not too bad |
| 20:33.31 | Esamynn|work | roughly |
| 20:34.02 | Esamynn|work | why are we trying to transplant the dutch precisely? |
| 20:34.43 | Esamynn|work | historically the dutch like Canadians, not sure about our country... |
| 20:34.52 | Esamynn|work | (the land that is) |
| 20:35.18 | nevcairiel | because foxlit's plans to increase the sea level would flood their country (which is largely below sea level) |
| 20:35.34 | Esamynn|work | ahhh |
| 20:35.38 | Dashkal | Suddenly glad I live away from the ocean >.> |
| 20:36.08 | foxlit | if you do not come to the ocean, the ocean will come to you. |
| 20:36.35 | Dashkal | I'm high enough we'd be in a Kevin Costner movie before it reached me |
| 20:36.52 | Dashkal | Or at least starting on that path |
| 20:37.10 | Dashkal | Not right now, mind you. I work near the ocean. |
| 20:38.26 | foxlit | s/do not/won’t/ is apparently the right way to butcher that proverb. |
| 20:40.32 | Esamynn|work | eh, either works |
| 20:40.51 | Esamynn|work | (roughly) |
| 20:47.23 | g0urra | hmm.. http://warcraft.blizzplanet.com/blog/comments/speculation-is-blizzard-entertainment-looking-to-develop-a-warcraft-animated-tv-series |
| 20:48.34 | nevcairiel | they are looking for one guy, that might as well work on their own cinematics? :p |
| 20:48.40 | nevcairiel | people sure like to interpret things |
| 20:49.30 | Esamynn|work | heh |
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| 20:56.22 | Syllios | Why doesn't IsSpellKnown() work for talents? When the talents are learned they go in the spell book. Why doesn't it work? |
| 20:58.02 | nevcairiel | cause they are talents, not spells |
| 20:58.17 | Syllios | That's helpful -_- |
| 20:58.27 | Syllios | I know they're talents, not spells. |
| 20:58.39 | nevcairiel | what makes you think we could answer a "why"? either it works, or it doesn't. |
| 20:58.47 | foxlit | helpful -_-? Let me try my hand at this competition! |
| 20:58.53 | foxlit | “Because you haven’t sacrificed a goat!" |
| 20:59.05 | foxlit | more likely, you’re querying the wrong id. |
| 20:59.12 | foxlit | because, you know, magic. |
| 20:59.23 | Syllios | No, the ID's correct |
| 20:59.38 | nevcairiel | then it just doesn't work :) |
| 21:00.04 | Syllios | First I tried the ID by itself, then I tried the ID from the link (by regex-ing it) and that still comes out as unknown. |
| 21:00.20 | Syllios | I'll post the 4 line code |
| 21:01.28 | nevcairiel | why not just ask GetTalentInfo instead |
| 21:01.33 | Syllios | http://pastebin.com/7uh5xPVX |
| 21:01.43 | Syllios | let me check that one |
| 21:02.39 | nevcairiel | IsSpellKnown breaks down quite a bit |
| 21:02.53 | nevcairiel | if you have spells that transform themself based on some conditions, it'll freak out on those |
| 21:03.37 | nevcairiel | noticed that with warlocks primarily when some spells replace others |
| 21:03.40 | Syllios | by break down you mean it's buggy? |
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| 21:05.49 | Esamynn|work | Syllios: are you looking for the technical reason, the historical reason, or are you really just trying to get this to work and you don't actually care about "why" ? |
| 21:06.55 | Syllios | Nope, no historical reason. Know it's from blizzard I'm sure it's the byproduct of horrible code or something. I'm wondering why that particular function isn't working as expected. |
| 21:07.04 | Esamynn|work | "why?" is a particularly dangerous question when you're dealing with the WoW API |
| 21:07.20 | Esamynn|work | Syllios: as you expect it to, or as Blizzard expects it to? ;) |
| 21:07.39 | Esamynn|work | because it mostly likely works EXACTLY as Blizzard expects it to =D |
| 21:07.42 | nevcairiel | I wouldnt be surprised if the spell id is still wrong |
| 21:07.43 | foxlit | because the real spell is http://www.wowhead.com/spell=125430 |
| 21:07.50 | nevcairiel | i mean, you seem to get it from its name |
| 21:07.51 | Syllios | If you have to ask that question, you know the thing needs to be redesigned. |
| 21:07.55 | foxlit | regardless of which talent you have. |
| 21:07.58 | nevcairiel | many spells have duplicates and triplicates |
| 21:08.19 | Esamynn|work | Syllios: wait wait... you're looking for good DESIGN here? |
| 21:08.26 | Esamynn|work | you foolish, foolish mortal |
| 21:08.34 | Syllios | I'm looking for decent design lol |
| 21:08.50 | nevcairiel | then use the correct spell id :D |
| 21:09.01 | Syllios | That totally reminded me of that one episode form family guy "YOU KNOW WHAT REALLY GRIND MY GEARS..." |
| 21:09.33 | Syllios | let me test that thing |
| 21:09.51 | nevcairiel | using spell names is always very volatile |
| 21:10.05 | Syllios | How'd you find the correct spell ID? |
| 21:10.19 | nevcairiel | since npcs have similar spells sometimes, or the game has duplicates for mechanical reasons |
| 21:11.44 | Esamynn|work | Syllios: never EVER EVER expect any sort of reasonable design from the WoW game systems or API |
| 21:11.45 | nevcairiel | this sounds like one of those cases that I mentioned earlier, the spell changes based on spec, but the underlying master spell id remains the same, and if you don't know that one. .. you are screwed |
| 21:12.06 | nevcairiel | luckily foxlit told you! |
| 21:13.16 | Syllios | Yeah that's it |
| 21:13.18 | Esamynn|work | Syllios: the only saving grace? you only ever have to support one version of this clusterfuck at any given time ;) |
| 21:13.59 | Syllios | Yeah, I feel yah.. |
| 21:14.24 | Syllios | Foxlit: Thanks btw. |
| 21:15.11 | foxlit | http://pastey.org/view/38da079f << edging ever closer. |
| 21:15.44 | nevcairiel | what are you doing now |
| 21:16.32 | nevcairiel | doesnt lua protect its loop variable, or am i remembering wrong |
| 21:16.51 | foxlit | it does; I think the comment should reflect that. |
| 21:17.22 | nevcairiel | i'm not all that fluent on lua intermediates |
| 21:17.34 | karl_w_w | why is an easy question for the wow api in fact |
| 21:17.47 | nevcairiel | "because blizzard made it that way"? |
| 21:17.58 | nevcairiel | or "magic" ? |
| 21:18.13 | foxlit | (the real loop index is in 3; the version accessible and modified within the loop is copied into 4) |
| 21:18.38 | karl_w_w | the answer is "because the functions were made in as quick a way as possible to serve the purpose of the default UI and the game is very old" |
| 21:18.50 | foxlit | nah, that madness is relatively new. |
| 21:18.51 | nevcairiel | thats boring karl_w_w |
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| 21:19.31 | foxlit | overlaying spells are probably 4.0'ish |
| 21:19.31 | karl_w_w | what can I say, I'm a boring kinda guy |
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| 21:23.14 | Syllios | how did you get the "base" spell id? |
| 21:29.57 | foxlit | I knew this one because once upon a time I was debugging an action bar-like addon. |
| 21:30.06 | foxlit | Maybe it’s in the spellbook? |
| 21:30.25 | Simca_ | you could look it up in a dbc or a database site |
| 21:31.22 | Simca_ | the thing with IsSpellKnown and all API functions that are like 5-6 years old is that they aren't designed to handle modern things. They add new functions to do the new things and sometimes forget to update (or remove) the old ones. |
| 21:32.51 | Syllios | Yeah i was using wow head to get the ids, but apparently they're different. Anyway, the ID you gave me is for "Mage Bomb" which apparently applies to all 3. Interesting enough. But yeah, they need to update the UI API if they did that. They don't have to but they should really consider it. |
| 21:33.21 | Syllios | wowhead* stupid safari autocorrect gets annoying sometimes |
| 21:38.57 | foxlit | nevcairiel: what are you doing now << wrapping up a tiny bit of magic. |
| 21:40.53 | foxlit | (writing a tiny Lua compiler) |
| 21:42.43 | nevcairiel | sounds like fun |
| 21:43.13 | foxlit | Brief moments of fun punctuated by long periods of dread. |
| 21:43.45 | kd3|hate`net | "why the hell am I writing a compiler?" |
| 21:43.48 | foxlit | For instance, it’d be nice to have constant propagation analysis in there, because otherwise, everything allocates memory slots. |
| 21:45.14 | foxlit | Or maybe just something to reduce the amount of single-purpose MOVEs in the generated bytecode. |
| 21:48.38 | Neffi | foxlit: Emitting bytecode for the reference Lua VM, or emitting optimized Lua code? Or are you writing a VM too like a madman? |
| 21:49.12 | foxlit | The madman option, of course. |
| 21:49.41 | Neffi | For fun, or..? Why not look at LuaJIT |
| 21:50.49 | foxlit | why not just use LuaJIT in the first place? :) |
| 21:51.24 | Neffi | I mean, you should. It seems pretty advanced |
| 21:52.12 | Neffi | Unless you need portability to something not already supported, or need to be able to patch the VM, which is non-trivial with LuaJIT's VM |
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| 22:35.15 | karl_w_w | android 4.4.4 already |
| 23:08.51 | karl_w_w | iirc, "mage bomb" is in your spellbook until you talent one of the bombs |
| 23:09.17 | karl_w_w | that's certainly how it was in the beta, so maybe that's where you got it foxlit |
| 23:15.31 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/5cvofVZ.png lol |
| 23:17.06 | karl_w_w | consider that you're not at the bottom of the valley -> worry about whether that's because you're on the left or the right of it |
| 23:38.45 | airtonix | karl_w_w: it's not your fault. i believe in you. |
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| 23:50.00 | pompy1 | Shirik: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tsunami-warning-downgraded-advisory-alaska-n138831 get that alert? :o |
