| 00:11.18 | nevcairiel | was the last time before cataclysm? :P |
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| 00:17.06 | Amarande | nevcairiel: no, I've been there since Cata |
| 00:17.27 | Amarande | nevcairiel: it used to have this spooky wind effect, almost like someone was hiding in the room with you breathing heavily |
| 00:17.33 | Amarande | I didn't hear it this time though |
| 00:17.52 | Amarande | (spooky wind was in post-cata, no more wind in 5.4 it seems) |
| 00:18.20 | Amarande | it was raining, instead |
| 00:18.29 | nevcairiel | maybe it just wasnt windy at the time |
| 00:18.31 | nevcairiel | weather changes |
| 00:18.54 | foxlit | is it summer yet? |
| 00:20.30 | TC-Work | No |
| 00:20.54 | foxlit | :( |
| 00:27.22 | Amarande | hm, one thing I'm beginning to notice that at least seems really odd about playing on a pvp server |
| 00:27.53 | Amarande | players around my own level, the kind who would actually get honor for beating me to a pulp (and probably could, since I'm mostly in greens and most folks are in looms these days), generally except for that one time in Feralas, ignore me |
| 00:28.06 | Amarande | the people who I actually die to are 90's who can't possibly gain anything at all from it, heh |
| 00:28.08 | Amarande | wonder why that is |
| 00:30.44 | nevcairiel | because on-level enemys might actually lose when they attack you, while an overpowered 90 is in it for the fun of ganking |
| 00:32.27 | Simca | 'fun' |
| 00:43.12 | Mr_Rabies | this is the best png ever https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpqiJGIIQAA6WRP.png |
| 00:45.59 | Dagmar | Is that from the 80's or something? |
| 00:46.13 | Dagmar | When the hell was CompuServe last relevant/ |
| 00:46.35 | Dagmar | That laptop looks late 90's tho |
| 00:47.22 | Dagmar | Geez 1895? |
| 00:52.16 | Amarande | Dagmar: when the hell was the WCW last relevant :) |
| 00:53.11 | Dagmar | Yeah but I actually *used* Compuserve for a very brief period of time |
| 00:53.32 | Dagmar | It ended abruptly when I saw them trash-talking the Internet |
| 00:54.06 | Dagmar | I actually had access to it at the time. I was like 'OKay, clearly these people are no longer a source of useful information." |
| 01:10.59 | TC-Work | Interesting, Did not know it was owned by H&R Block. |
| 01:15.19 | Amarande | bleh. time to find something to do for a bit until this hunter decides to finally go away |
| 01:15.36 | Amarande | unlike the other gankers who'd just hit you once and then ignore you, this guy seems to like to camp people heh |
| 01:17.34 | Dagmar | If there woudln't be epic shitstorms about it, a goblin suicide gadget could have it's uses for stuff like that |
| 01:17.59 | Dagmar | It would let you take the bastard with you |
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| 01:28.43 | Amarande | hrm, interesting, said hunter doesn't make any effort to chase me when I leave that particular area ... he seems to be wanting to camp *that* area for some reason |
| 01:28.53 | Amarande | I'm not sure why. *checks wowhead to see if these guys drop anything of note* |
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| 01:46.35 | Zenon | helro |
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| 02:53.06 | Neffi | so to those who played: how is Wildstar? |
| 02:57.41 | Trela | Neffi: Greatly improved UI over alpha.(Holy shit it was bad.) Very good combat system. Supposedly there is lore and story, but it is regulated to tiny as fuck windows and windows they expect you to read while in combat.(wat) |
| 02:57.58 | Trela | Take WoW, update the graphics, replace the lore, and bam. Wildstar. |
| 02:58.17 | Trela | They even have the auto-invite guild spam AddOns! |
| 02:59.53 | Neffi | The combat system looks great from the dev speaks. Lot of solid ideas |
| 03:00.09 | Neffi | But solid ideas don't always pan out, so I figured I'd ask for a real opinion |
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| 03:23.48 | MiRai | Neffi: There was a pretty big reddit thread on /r/games of people sharing their thoughts after open beta - http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/25y8ti/now_that_wildstars_open_beta_is_over_thought/ |
| 03:24.21 | Neffi | Well I just saw they made their rogue-ish class tankable, so that pretty much settles it. I'll be giving it a whirl eventually |
| 03:25.22 | Fisker | I am the winner kd3 |
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| 04:24.12 | Wobin | Neffi: I'm enjoying the playerhousing |
| 04:29.41 | Wobin | also, I love that so many comments on that thread are complaining about how slow it is to level |
| 04:30.15 | Wobin | INSTANT GRATIFICATION NAOW |
| 04:30.45 | Fisker | Can you at least level without grinding Wobin ? |
| 04:32.24 | Wobin | define grinding |
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| 04:38.02 | Fisker | Do you have to kill mobs in between quests, gathering, etc in order to progress to new levels of quests etc |
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| 04:43.08 | Wobin | Fisker: not with the density of quests available |
| 04:43.18 | Wobin | but some of the quests have a very grindy component to them |
| 04:43.24 | Wobin | I just skip those |
| 04:43.31 | Fisker | Nice |
| 04:43.50 | Wobin | note, I'm only up to lvl 21, so things may change later, but I've not heard of people needing to grind |
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| 05:48.15 | Neffi | The primary complaint I see is that early levels are tedious. I wonder how long it's been since these people leveled in WoW (without looms) |
| 05:48.39 | Neffi | From what I'm seeing and reading, it looks like a really solid game. Now I just need a GPU to handle it |
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| 05:52.03 | Stanzilla | you don't even count your PC as having a real GPU, do you |
| 05:52.08 | Stanzilla | because that would be an insult :p |
| 05:58.32 | Neffi | I did for a while. It was a huge step up from my old Pentium D with a 2nd hand ATi X1300 |
| 06:20.56 | Stanzilla | <.< |
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| 09:58.17 | karl_w_w | http://www.pta.wa.gov.au/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=19dhxk9kLxo%3d&tabid=328&mid=1267&language=en-US (pdf) it fascinates me how much has to be considered when planning an underground bus station |
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| 11:20.30 | A-KO | fucking Chiltara |
| 11:20.32 | A-KO | not dropping my shits |
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| 13:54.50 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: have you seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atsLv-ZBt6E |
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| 14:40.41 | jleclanche | Dagmar: you decent at sqlite? |
| 14:42.14 | karl_w_w | I did now jleclanche |
| 14:42.33 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: that was brilliantly brutal, and brutally brilliant |
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| 16:29.25 | foxlit | KEY_UNBOUND_ERROR = "|cffff0000%s Function i Now Unbound!|r"; |
| 16:29.49 | Fisker | unbinds foxlit |
| 16:30.08 | foxlit | that Function makes for annoying grammar. |
| 16:31.16 | foxlit | “Move Forward Function is Now Unbound”, “Target Nearest Enemy Function is Now Unbound”, “Action Button 1 Function is Now Unbound" |
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| 16:42.54 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: did you watch fargo? |
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| 17:04.05 | karl_w_w | when you list something on the steam community market are you putting in the selling price or the amount of money you will get? |
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| 17:30.02 | Fisker | hugtackles Lopeppeppy |
| 17:30.11 | Lopeppeppy | Why hello thar. |
| 17:30.24 | Fisker | hello |
| 17:33.44 | karl_w_w | Fisker, could you fix steamcommunity.com please and thanks |
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| 17:35.28 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker is fixing my storefront first, but I'll send him to you next. |
| 17:35.50 | Fisker | What's wrong with your storefront? |
| 17:36.30 | Lopeppeppy | 404. |
| 17:36.39 | Lopeppeppy | Well, it's not MY storefront, it's one I want to buy stuff from. |
| 17:36.39 | Fisker | Oh |
| 17:36.53 | Fisker | I will try |
| 17:37.12 | Lopeppeppy | Apparently The Site (tm) had an Implosion (tm) and they are rebuilding from old backups. |
| 17:37.19 | Fisker | :( |
| 17:37.28 | Fisker | What kind of storefront is it? |
| 17:39.20 | Lopeppeppy | Um. It's not mine so I don't know... |
| 17:39.38 | karl_w_w | plot-twist: peppy is talking about a bricks and mortar store |
| 17:39.59 | Fisker | I was more referring to which storefront it was :o |
| 17:40.04 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dear, I'd love to see a physical 404. |
| 17:40.16 | Fisker | Not to mention an implosion at the store |
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| 17:40.40 | Fisker | and the look on your face when they roll a new store in on a huge truck because they had a backup from last week |
| 17:41.16 | Lopeppeppy | https://stockclerk.sca.org/ |
| 17:43.13 | karl_w_w | iz brukken |
| 17:43.48 | Lopeppeppy | is very broked. |
| 17:45.14 | Fisker | Time for a heist Lopeppeppy |
| 17:50.04 | TC-Work | And now Trion just released their own client. I wonder how long it is going to take for someone to release a meta-client. |
| 18:07.10 | foxlit | them kids with all their fancy new clients should get off your lawn, TC-Work? |
| 18:08.00 | TC-Work | foxlit: Kinda. I don't mind a client, I just don't want tons of them |
| 18:11.22 | TC-Work | Steam is kinda shite, but at least it was all together. |
| 18:12.11 | A-KO | http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/all-our-patent-are-belong-you < wow |
| 18:13.48 | foxlit | A-KO: wow, they removed a wall of patents from the lobby of their headquarters? |
| 18:14.02 | A-KO | foxlit: They're pretty much opening the patents up for use |
| 18:14.33 | foxlit | Does that link say that somewhere? |
| 18:15.10 | A-KO | foxlit: It says they will not pursue lawsuits for use of their patents. |
| 18:15.41 | A-KO | Tesla will not initiate patent lawsuits against anyone who, in good faith, wants to use our technology. |
| 18:18.23 | foxlit | what does wanting to use their technology in good faith mean? |
| 18:20.49 | foxlit | is it “just do whatever, as long as you don’t sue us for anything, ever” or “talk to us about how much it’ll cost to license this stuff and we’ll work something out”? |
| 18:22.43 | A-KO | No licensing |
| 18:22.47 | A-KO | it's open for use |
| 18:23.15 | A-KO | He did it to spur innovation in the car industry |
| 18:24.05 | Gnarfoz | I think the idea is basically "patent it so nobody else who is *not* going to share it can" |
| 18:24.24 | Gnarfoz | (he has talked about this previously) |
| 18:24.31 | A-KO | ^ yes |
| 18:24.33 | Gnarfoz | s/has// |
| 18:24.46 | A-KO | basically, patent it for the sake of having legal right, but then letting everyone use it |
| 18:24.53 | A-KO | so peopel can't fuck others over |
| 18:25.03 | Gnarfoz | ^ this |
| 18:26.06 | A-KO | so LEGALLY, he still has the right to go after people. I think. Unless he's actually following the formality of invalidating the patents (if that's possible?) |
| 18:26.13 | A-KO | But he's saying he won't |
| 18:26.27 | A-KO | Either way, that's like.....fucking huge |
| 18:26.40 | Ressy | smarter to keep the patents and just say "use'em" |
| 18:26.48 | Ressy | that way, nobody else can patent it later.. |
| 18:26.49 | Gnarfoz | either huge, or at least "he did what he said he would" ^^ |
| 18:26.50 | Ressy | and go after them. |
| 18:27.23 | A-KO | That's a pretty big fucking announcement. Investors have got to be shitting their pants |
| 18:27.26 | A-KO | That's BILLIONS in technology |
| 18:27.40 | A-KO | untold billions in future investment money |
| 18:27.40 | Ressy | were they suing before? |
| 18:27.43 | A-KO | Tesla? or investors? |
| 18:27.58 | Ressy | Tesla. Were they suing based on their patents? |
| 18:28.00 | A-KO | no |
| 18:28.01 | A-KO | never |
| 18:29.59 | Gnarfoz | investors are part of what makes the "typical" use of patents today so bad |
| 18:30.26 | Ressy | Does Tesla get any money from licensing said patents |
| 18:30.47 | Gnarfoz | maybe from people who they license them to, but this post is not about licensing at all |
| 18:30.50 | Ressy | if not, they're not losing anything.. GM's not likely to switch from gas to electric fully.. |
| 18:31.00 | Gnarfoz | they should |
| 18:31.31 | Gnarfoz | and because he realized it's extremely far from happening at the moment, he's not worried this will accelerate it too much |
| 18:31.38 | Gnarfoz | but maybe it will accelerate it somewhat at least |
| 18:35.03 | A-KO | Ressy: Tesla essentially means he's not even doing licensing. |
| 18:35.12 | A-KO | The stuff is open to use |
| 18:35.29 | A-KO | I'm sure some investors are nowhere near happy on that decision |
| 18:41.11 | Gnarfoz | nonbelievers. |
| 18:56.03 | foxlit | hooksecurefunc(getmetatable(CreateFrame(“EDITBOX”)).__index, “SetText”, print) |
| 18:56.18 | foxlit | And now I suddenly can’t use key bindings. whyyyyyy. |
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| 19:02.57 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: what are you breaking now |
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| 19:03.24 | foxlit | key bindings, apparently. |
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| 19:05.24 | Gnarfoz | in the pursuit of... |
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| 19:05.32 | Gnarfoz | science, clearly :D |
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| 19:06.17 | Gethe | my server has people on it now! |
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| 19:06.28 | Gnarfoz | unpossible! |
| 19:06.47 | Gethe | i thought so too, but it's true! |
| 19:07.27 | Fisker | How much is a hug Lopeppeppy ? |
| 19:08.51 | foxlit | Nothing in particular, Gnarfoz; the side effect is more interesting than what I was looking for (namely, how text in editboxes is protected). |
| 19:09.56 | Gnarfoz | you seem to be the single remaining person actively researching the WoW addon system's intricacies |
| 19:10.21 | Gnarfoz | (which is awesome) |
| 19:10.22 | Lopeppeppy | They are usually free, Fisker, but I accept rum. |
| 19:10.38 | Fisker | foxlit is the black science guy of wow addons |
| 19:10.56 | nevcairiel | Fisker: thats racist |
| 19:11.07 | Fisker | I don't have any alcohol so I'll have to be a freeloading smooch |
| 19:11.36 | Fisker | People think I be, but I don't |
| 19:12.09 | Fisker | Also more scute scientistcist |
| 19:12.13 | Fisker | Scute? |
| 19:12.18 | Fisker | Damnit |
| 19:12.30 | Fisker | hugs Lopeppeppy |
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| 19:15.28 | g0urra | http://store.steampowered.com/news/13638/ |
| 19:23.14 | TC-Work | I really enjoyed that game |
| 19:23.32 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/CUXR05r~ |
| 19:23.42 | mikma | whoops, http://imgur.com/gallery/CUXR05r |
| 19:23.43 | TC-Work | Now maybe my hardware is good enough to play without laging. |
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| 19:58.36 | foxlit | okay, so hooksecurefunc(getmetatable(CreateFrame(“EDITBOX”)).__index, “SetText”, function() end) breaks keybindings; while the text property carries taint. |
| 19:59.53 | foxlit | the former is kind of inexplicable; the latter is as it should be, but isn’t enough. |
| 20:00.13 | Gnarfoz | your crazy quotes blind me |
| 20:00.59 | foxlit | "Better?" << I can turn them off, but it probably doesn't persist. |
| 20:03.54 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
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| 20:04.22 | foxlit | “Yeah.” |
| 20:04.34 | Gnarfoz | I'm probably not brave enough to blindly copy anything you paste here, but if I were to, I'd have to make sure I don't have crazy typographic characters in it :D |
| 20:05.01 | foxlit | well, okay, I can just never restart the client. |
| 20:05.26 | Gethe | Soo apparently my DBM skin had a bug where it wasnt setting the skin. 3k downloads, 0 comments... |
| 20:05.30 | foxlit | you can get out of this by clicking the game menu microbutton and selecting Logout. |
| 20:05.54 | foxlit | which is a better situation than say WorldFrame:Hide() |
| 20:06.20 | Gnarfoz | Gethe: rofl :D |
| 20:06.42 | Gethe | sighs |
| 20:06.56 | Gnarfoz | isn't WorldFrame just the 3d? |
| 20:07.02 | Gnarfoz | or is UIParent a child of it |
| 20:07.20 | foxlit | UIParent:GetParent() == nil |
| 20:07.54 | Gnarfoz | so what makes WorldFrame:Hide() troublesome, except no more game world to look at? |
| 20:08.42 | foxlit | there should be a gif-like format with sound. |
| 20:09.00 | nevcairiel | you mean a video |
| 20:09.03 | foxlit | "Spoilers!" |
| 20:09.47 | foxlit | nevcairiel: yes, though I don't see people casually linking mp4s around to each other. |
| 20:10.25 | Gnarfoz | of course you do, it's called youtube |
| 20:10.28 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 20:10.41 | foxlit | youtube is to mp4 as photobucket is to gif. |
| 20:10.49 | Gnarfoz | but seriously, gfycat and mediacrush have made straight linking .webm more popular |
| 20:11.04 | Gnarfoz | photobucket supports animated gifs? |
| 20:11.58 | Gnarfoz | also, you indeed can just link .mp4s, too (if you put h264 into them :P), many browsers play them fine |
| 20:12.02 | Gnarfoz | (all? I can't say.) |
| 20:12.31 | foxlit | it's also a question of finding the relevant mp4 in the first place. |
| 20:13.43 | Gnarfoz | that's a requirement that can't be avoided |
| 20:13.44 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:14.04 | foxlit | gifs are like one https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=tennant+sad+rain+gif away. |
| 20:14.51 | Gnarfoz | I don't even need to click to see the gif |
| 20:14.57 | Gnarfoz | magic |
| 20:17.35 | kd3 | an own goal? wow |
| 20:17.46 | TC-Work | Yea |
| 20:17.56 | TC-Work | 1st ever for them in the cup |
| 20:18.40 | Gnarfoz | in any, you mean? |
| 20:19.07 | Gnarfoz | (because any goal in this game would be the first goal overall for this cup :P) |
| 20:19.47 | TC-Work | I thought that was covered with 'ever' but yes, any. |
| 20:19.51 | nevcairiel | interesting to have the first goal in the cup to be an OG tho :p |
| 20:20.33 | Gnarfoz | TC-Work: I asked because you said "the cup" |
| 20:20.58 | nevcairiel | to me it sounded like the first ever in a world cup for that particular team |
| 20:21.03 | nevcairiel | croatia is it? |
| 20:21.09 | Gnarfoz | no, Brasil, man! |
| 20:21.12 | Gnarfoz | that's the fun part |
| 20:21.19 | nevcairiel | oh right |
| 20:21.20 | Gnarfoz | (Brazil, I guess) |
| 20:21.22 | nevcairiel | i was reading backwards |
| 20:21.36 | Gnarfoz | anyway, the game should end with this score |
| 20:21.42 | Gnarfoz | set the right tune for the next two weeks |
| 20:21.44 | TC-Work | It might at this rate |
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| 20:25.00 | Amarande | Hmmm, this Draenor Perks thing looks interesting ... couple things they don't seem to mention though |
| 20:25.35 | Amarande | one being, if you change spec at 91+, do your Draenor Perks change with spec, or do you permanently stay with whatever ones you happened to get with the spec you leveled as? |
| 20:25.48 | kd3 | if you swap specs you swap perks |
| 20:25.51 | kd3 | otherwise it doesn't make sense |
| 20:26.02 | Amarande | two being, are they balanced enough so that leveling characters don't vary significantly in power at equal level? |
| 20:26.18 | kd3 | they're not going to be balanced, you get perks randomly. some are more powerful than others |
| 20:26.27 | kd3 | you'll have all the perks at 99 |
| 20:26.53 | Amarande | e.g., are there going to be any where in leveling dungeons people think "please, please let the (role) have (perk)", so people who get an unlucky roll from 91-98 elicit sighs when their dungeon mates find out they do not have the best one yet? |
| 20:26.59 | nevcairiel | you really could've answered that question yourself, nothing but the behaviour kd3 mentioned makes any sense at all |
| 20:27.37 | kd3 | players aren't going to care in level-up dungeons, player skill is going to have far more of an effect on the dungeon than what perks that player randomly got |
| 20:27.38 | nevcairiel | and leveling dungeons are typically so easy that you dont need a specific talent |
| 20:27.52 | nevcairiel | (or perc) |
| 20:28.03 | Dagmar | Sure... Try explaining that to the shortbus crowd. |
| 20:28.08 | foxlit | going to kick anyone who attempts to run normal dungeons without flasks and full raid buffs. |
| 20:28.18 | foxlit | ALSO ENCHANTS ON ALL THE LEVELLING GEAR OR GTFO. |
| 20:28.27 | Amarande | heh |
| 20:28.32 | Dagmar | I've had idjit-tanks carp at me twice about my pet's taunt being on in _scenarios_ |
| 20:28.59 | Amarande | Dagmar: never mind that using tank spec in scenarios is considered gauche to begin with from what I understand |
| 20:29.06 | Dagmar | It's silly |
| 20:29.15 | Amarande | ideal scenario groups are heal+dps+dps or tri-dps, it would seem |
| 20:29.20 | Dagmar | Hell I can at least readily _heal_ the monkey |
| 20:29.39 | foxlit | tank spec gains dps from things hitting it. |
| 20:29.45 | foxlit | and can heal itself. |
| 20:29.52 | foxlit | you should stop being a dick and turn off your pet taunt. |
| 20:29.53 | nevcairiel | i've never really seen the need for heal either, even in heroic scenarios .. if you have one role that can off-heal occasionally its all you need |
| 20:30.00 | Dagmar | You basically have to be semi self-sufficient in those things. If your whole shtick is about blocking with your nose and expecting someone to heal you, you're pretty fucked |
| 20:30.45 | kd3 | and 1-1 |
| 20:30.59 | Dagmar | foxlit: If they stood a chance of out DPSing me, maybe. But these were warriors, not DKs |
| 20:31.00 | Gethe | it'll be better though in warlords, since tanks wont need to get hit to do damage |
| 20:31.34 | TC-Work | Nice |
| 20:31.57 | Amarande | And hopefully my fave dungeons are level 100 ones or I find a guild on Illidan that I like and actually has enough people on at a time to do dungeons regularly (not like the one I was in on Ysera which is nice and friendly but nearly never has enough folks on to do content :p) |
| 20:32.15 | Amarande | since if dungeon level distribution is like BC, there may be dungeons many people only ever really get one chance to do |
| 20:32.31 | kd3 | you're falling into the chicken little pattern again |
| 20:32.50 | foxlit | Dagmar: you don't actually gain anything by having your pet taunt, though? |
| 20:33.33 | Gethe | all of the dungeons will have a heroic version at 100, plus a few normals at 100 |
| 20:33.37 | Amarande | kd3: the expectation is that the proving grounds rule will result in heroic queues being long due to not enough people queuing as non-premade groups, but I'm not sure how likely that is to actually pan out that way |
| 20:34.02 | Amarande | as in, you may pass the proving grounds, but a lot of people are likely to either not be able to, or just not bother (especially since with guild groups you don't need to do it) |
| 20:34.06 | kd3 | unlikely. if you can't pass PG silver you really don't need to be running heroics with randoms anyway |
| 20:34.23 | Gethe | ^ |
| 20:34.48 | Amarande | kd3: nah, the fear is that people will pass PG silver themselves, but not find enough other people who bothered to do it for the queue times to be decent |
| 20:35.05 | nevcairiel | thats stupid |
| 20:35.09 | Amarande | especially if a lot of people decide to simply go with guildies instead, since full premades do not help queue times in the slightest |
| 20:35.11 | foxlit | look, nobody is going to gate a large percentage of the population out of content. |
| 20:35.23 | foxlit | The worst thing that silver medal is going to amount to is a requirement that you finish the levelling zone quest lines. |
| 20:35.45 | Amarande | yeah, it seems a lot of the postings about it are coloured by the current PGs |
| 20:35.59 | Amarande | which apparently are a train wreck, for some definitions of train wreck |
| 20:35.59 | nevcairiel | Amarande: if you want to run with guildies, the presence of PG makes no difference at all, you wouldnt be in the LFD pool either way |
| 20:36.02 | nevcairiel | so i dont get your problem |
| 20:36.20 | Amarande | nevcairiel: that's why I said hopefully I find a guild that's actually active enough to do dungeons regularly :) |
| 20:36.56 | Amarande | (or that my favourites are level 100 and can be done on normal) |
| 20:36.57 | nevcairiel | people that run with full premade groups exclusively are not in the LFD pool, be it PG or not, so that changes the queue time exactly not |
| 20:37.41 | Amarande | nevcairiel: yeah, what seemed to be the vibe was that people will decide (possibly because of how the PGs were in Pandaria), bugger the PGs and make more of an effort to stick to premades |
| 20:37.53 | Amarande | meaning people who used to queue won't this time around |
| 20:38.04 | Amarande | *that* would change the queue times for the worse, no? |
| 20:38.04 | kd3 | maybe see how the WoD PGs play out before saying the sky's falling? |
| 20:38.17 | nevcairiel | PGs may not be perfect in MoP, but PG Silver is still trivial for any class |
| 20:38.20 | Amarande | kd3: any word how they're going to be yet or is that not in test yet? |
| 20:38.34 | kd3 | nothing publicly visible yet |
| 20:39.50 | Amarande | Yeah, apparently the trick seems to be to do them before you set out for raiding, most of the complaints seem to be from folks in raid gear, especially healers in raid gear :) |
| 20:40.30 | Amarande | (it seems to centre primarily in the end around raid gear setups that get particularly asstastic scaledowns when adjusted to 463 for the challenge) |
| 20:40.32 | nevcairiel | if you cant do PG silver, you still majorly suck |
| 20:40.35 | nevcairiel | its really not hard |
| 20:40.41 | nevcairiel | even gold is still somewhat easy |
| 20:40.47 | nevcairiel | only endless is a bit of a challenge |
| 20:41.28 | nevcairiel | people complaining are usually those that cant finish endless |
| 20:43.08 | karl_w_w | hey Shirik, you play ASSFAGGOTS games? :P |
| 20:45.18 | TC-Work | Well he does play you. |
| 20:55.35 | Amarande | Hmm, hopefully that hunter still isn't hanging out about that spot in EPL today :) |
| 20:55.50 | Amarande | I'm still not sure why he was so intent on monopolising that particular spot anyway |
| 20:56.21 | Amarande | wowhead doesn't seem to indicate anything special drops from those particular enemies ... but he was definitely adamant about that specific location, because if I ran away he did not make any effort to chase me down for more ganking |
| 20:57.46 | Amarande | (specifically the undercroft, near where you do the quest to fight Zaeldarr ... any idea if there's anything particularly special about that area?) |
| 20:59.02 | Semlar | hunter pet |
| 20:59.56 | Amarande | which one? if it's the wolf with the sword in him, that's further east ... he wasn't over there |
| 21:00.29 | Amarande | ooh, nice. today looks like a nice afternoon for some gaming ... first plaguehound I fight drops an epic :) |
| 21:01.20 | Semlar | http://wowhead.com/npc=51053 |
| 21:03.00 | Neffi | cair<tab><tab> omg cairenn disappeared |
| 21:03.04 | Amarande | ah |
| 21:03.09 | Amarande | that would explain why he was so gank happy then |
| 21:03.15 | Neffi | anyone know if they're planning a Wildstar UI site? |
| 21:03.16 | Amarande | unlike most, who tend to kill you once and then leave you alone, heh |
| 21:03.22 | Semlar | or maybe he just didn't like you |
| 21:03.33 | Amarande | he had a legitimate need to gank it would seem, lest we unluckily tap his desired pet |
| 21:04.11 | Amarande | I hope another Alliance player stole it from him, LOL |
| 21:04.36 | Semlar | good god, the GetGuildBankTabInfo return for remaining withdrawals returns the number for the currently selected tab, not the one you're querying |
| 21:05.10 | Semlar | y u do dis neffi |
| 21:05.16 | nevcairiel | you should know by now that a lot of the UI is stateful :p |
| 21:05.21 | Neffi | Semlar: not enough coffee |
| 21:05.24 | Gnarfoz | Neffi: so far it seems like Curse is alone out there *shrug* :o |
| 21:06.07 | Neffi | well it looks like http://wildstarnasa.com/ is being embraced, so I'll check that out |
| 21:06.15 | Neffi | For information/docs, at least |
| 21:06.16 | Gnarfoz | that's not an addon distribution site |
| 21:06.30 | Gnarfoz | and you might want #wildstaruidev |
| 21:06.33 | Neffi | I guess Curse didn't jump on the Wildpedia quick enough? <_< |
| 21:06.37 | Gnarfoz | uh? |
| 21:06.46 | Gnarfoz | they also have the biggest wildstar wiki, probably |
| 21:06.51 | Gnarfoz | wildstar.gamepedia.com |
| 21:06.56 | Neffi | Ah, ok |
| 21:07.02 | Neffi | Google doesn't return much of this yet |
| 21:07.17 | Gnarfoz | not sure what you googled for, then, they all show up for me |
| 21:07.37 | Gnarfoz | also, wildstarforums.com - also Curse. - they're in it on all their usual avenues ;-) |
| 21:07.47 | Amarande | oh heh, that's the plaguebats that do that ... tells you how much I've forgotten about this zone |
| 21:07.47 | Neffi | cool stuff |
| 21:07.54 | Neffi | thanks, gnarfoz |
| 21:07.58 | Amarande | also how paranoid you can get being in a popular zone on a pvp server, heh |
| 21:07.59 | Gnarfoz | sure (: |
| 21:07.59 | foxlit | ctrl+c ctrl+v /s/old game/new game/ done. |
| 21:08.10 | Gnarfoz | not quite ;P |
| 21:08.18 | Amarande | yesterday I was wondering "why did this warlock fear me while I was fighting this plaguebat and then ignore me" |
| 21:08.47 | Neffi | Amarande: because it's so much fun, jan |
| 21:08.48 | Gnarfoz | nicely/sadly Wildstar Curseforge is (one of?) the first to get to use the new CF version, so a bunch of stuff we're used to on wowace is still missing... is in the works, though |
| 21:10.17 | g0urra | http://www.theonion.com/sponsored/townsperson-in-online-rpg-universe-figures-shield,101/ |
| 21:10.20 | foxlit | http://measureandstir.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/i-should-buy-a-boat-cat.jpg |
| 21:23.52 | Amarande | ... did I seriously just get Mr Grubbs from the first Hidden Stash I ever looted |
| 21:23.54 | Amarande | yes, I believe I did |
| 21:31.57 | Mr_Rabies | i get mr grubs almost immediately on any chars i take into EPL |
| 21:34.07 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: I had the impression it was supposed to be rare, heh |
| 21:34.26 | Mr_Rabies | i mean usually not in my -first- stash but probably in the first 10? |
| 21:35.40 | Mr_Rabies | i guess a lot of people had bad luck |
| 21:35.41 | Mr_Rabies | weird |
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| 23:40.24 | foxlit | http://www.townlong-yak.com/purrmetheus/how.html << proofread the beta version? |
| 23:41.32 | Arrowmaster | jleclanche: yes |
| 23:41.40 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: pretty awesome |
| 23:41.43 | jleclanche | cant wait for the finale |
| 23:43.26 | TC-Work | foxlit: "a macro is built by randomly choosing from a pre-specified set of components at random; " |
| 23:43.31 | TC-Work | random is used twice |
| 23:44.54 | foxlit | TC-Work: got it, thanks. |
| 23:45.51 | TC-Work | foxlit: You might also want to do (PNRG) after you spell it out. I had to go back and look. |
| 23:50.43 | foxlit | TC-Work: also makes sense. |
