| 00:00.15 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, it's a nice challenge :) although I hope someday I'm able to play with a serious dx11 game, I'm getting real sick of dx9 |
| 00:00.22 | ZorbaTHut | (dx12 would work too) |
| 00:01.44 | MiRai | Alright, well I can't compete in the conversation because it's gone from WoW's loss of MSAA (so not more SGSSAA in DX11), to how efficient and usable SSAA is on games that came out last week. |
| 00:01.50 | jleclanche | ZorbaTHut: star citizen is technically a real dx11 game! |
| 00:02.05 | ZorbaTHut | jleclanche, but I'm not a developer on it, so it doesn't help me ;) |
| 00:02.10 | jleclanche | ZorbaTHut: BE ONE! |
| 00:02.14 | jleclanche | (they're hiring) |
| 00:02.59 | jleclanche | ZorbaTHut: more specifically, http://www.cloudimperiumgames.com/jobs/75-3D-Graphics-Programmer |
| 00:03.27 | ZorbaTHut | hah, I probably could get that job |
| 00:03.43 | jleclanche | you'd ace |
| 00:03.44 | jleclanche | it |
| 00:03.52 | ZorbaTHut | that said I doubt they're in the SF bay area, it looks like they're doing the austin/santa monica thing |
| 00:03.56 | ZorbaTHut | and I'm pretty tied to this area right now |
| 00:04.00 | jleclanche | They have LA offices |
| 00:04.11 | ZorbaTHut | plus, as much as I hate to say it, I'm just not that excited by the game :P not really my thing |
| 00:04.15 | jleclanche | LA, Austin, Manchester iirc |
| 00:04.24 | jleclanche | blar |
| 00:07.28 | Iriel | jleclanche: LA and SF are worlds apart in practice. |
| 00:07.42 | jleclanche | Yeah so I heard |
| 00:08.16 | jleclanche | I don't really see the attraction in the whole "bay area" thing though |
| 00:08.41 | Thunder_Child | Climate imo. |
| 00:08.44 | Thunder_Child | But that's about it. |
| 00:09.06 | jleclanche | .. if you're looking for decent climate stay away from the united states |
| 00:09.48 | Thunder_Child | temperature wise, not political, etc. |
| 00:09.50 | ZorbaTHut | It's my favorite area of the country, personally. LA is just . . . dull :V |
| 00:09.58 | ZorbaTHut | though I do wish it rained more here |
| 00:10.16 | jleclanche | I would actually recommend France, if you're looking for good climate. There's every type of climate. |
| 00:10.29 | Thunder_Child | Except it has french people. |
| 00:10.41 | jleclanche | yes, this is pretty much the only time I would EVER recommend france |
| 00:18.22 | Thunder_Child | iirc the only place on the planet that has all types is NZ |
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| 01:07.12 | znf | Romania has stuff |
| 01:07.26 | znf | And, uh, that was an hour ago |
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| 01:34.04 | jleclanche | Striking items off the todo. I had to test this old windows 3.1 program on wine. I've had this on the todo for almost 2 years. |
| 01:34.20 | jleclanche | I finally decide to get to it. I'm affected by this 2 months old bug: https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/5/7/145 |
| 01:34.22 | jleclanche | FML |
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| 02:30.51 | jleclanche | Shirik: ping |
| 02:31.06 | Shirik | jleclanche: pong |
| 02:31.28 | jleclanche | Shirik: you're still familiar with wikipedia organization right? |
| 02:32.05 | jleclanche | do you know at all if there's ever been plans to centralize "lists of episodes" as data? |
| 02:32.10 | jleclanche | eg move them to wikidata or something |
| 02:37.36 | Shirik | jleclanche: I haven't heard of anything like that |
| 02:37.43 | Shirik | but I don't keep up on EVERYTHING |
| 02:37.51 | jleclanche | Shirik: where would i go to find this out |
| 02:37.53 | Shirik | it sounds like a reasonable idea |
| 02:38.10 | Shirik | well, that's the kind of thing that would be at WP:RFC |
| 02:38.13 | Shirik | or WP:VPP |
| 02:38.23 | Shirik | but those aren't easy places to search |
| 02:38.46 | jleclanche | yeah, im not a wikipedia regular, I just need to plant a seed here :P |
| 02:38.49 | Shirik | sorry, WP:VPPR not WP:VPP |
| 02:38.58 | Shirik | if you want to plant a seed, probably the right place to do it is at WP:VPPR |
| 02:39.00 | jleclanche | I'm getting annoyed with managing my series by hand |
| 02:39.08 | Shirik | that's the kinda more informal "hey what about this?" area |
| 02:39.13 | jleclanche | ok |
| 02:40.11 | Shirik | eventually it would require an entry at WP:RFC |
| 02:40.19 | Shirik | but that's a very formal place and I wouldn't go there right away :P |
| 02:40.33 | jleclanche | I dont want to have to keep up on this, Im hoping it gets picked up by someone else |
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| 05:38.26 | Fisker | Why don't you keep up with everything Shirik ? |
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| 08:02.21 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 08:02.29 | Shirik | why don't you hey everything? |
| 08:02.30 | Fisker | hey |
| 08:02.42 | Fisker | I don't know Shirik |
| 08:02.51 | Fisker | I don't like heying people |
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| 09:07.47 | airtonix | hey fisker |
| 09:08.04 | airtonix | oh this mango pickle is crap |
| 09:11.00 | Torhal | You can't pickle a mango with your mind, airtonix. |
| 09:11.05 | Torhal | It simply doesn't work that way. |
| 09:11.13 | Torhal | You have to use Stanzilla's mind. |
| 09:11.54 | airtonix | i guess it's not the flavour of mango pickle i'm used to |
| 09:12.01 | airtonix | some punjabi flavour |
| 09:29.06 | airtonix | greetings Fisker |
| 09:29.10 | airtonix | (not a hey) |
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| 10:03.15 | airtonix | Torhal: sugges a good movie |
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| 12:42.17 | tz | argh, why is tidyplates 1/3 the screen above where it should be |
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| 13:08.22 | Simca | Is there a way to get an item link/ID/string from an item in the guild news? |
| 13:08.38 | Simca | API-wise (shift-clicking not an option here) |
| 13:10.38 | karl_w_w | GetGuildRosterMOTD() |
| 13:11.30 | karl_w_w | oh news? |
| 13:11.38 | karl_w_w | GetGuildNewsInfo(index) |
| 13:12.08 | karl_w_w | it returns the item id |
| 13:12.20 | Simca | awesome |
| 13:12.45 | Simca | thanks |
| 13:13.11 | Simca | one of the items in the guild news tab on the alpha is crashing the game (game crashes whenever you open the tab) |
| 13:13.28 | Simca | so i'd like to find out what it is but obviously can't do it directly |
| 13:15.09 | karl_w_w | I bet it still crashes the game |
| 13:15.35 | Fisker | http://imgur.com/gallery/rEftn <-Don't get Bing'd |
| 13:15.36 | Simca | maybe |
| 13:15.41 | Simca | i think it's the tooltip crashing it |
| 13:16.03 | Simca | so GetItemInfo("item:"..GetGuildNewsInfo(index)) might not crash it because it never calls the tooltip |
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| 13:56.57 | airtonix | popcorntime is gone :< |
| 14:00.18 | pompy | sailor moon fans llo http://nerdreactor.com/2014/06/05/pretty-guardian-sailor-moon-crystal-releases-premier-trailer/ |
| 14:01.00 | airtonix | you mean lol ? |
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| 14:14.54 | Amarande | Bleh, more Hyper-V foibles. Apparently I don't get to use my num lock key anymore. |
| 14:15.06 | Amarande | I might as well have bought one of those smaller Razer BlackWidows that appear not to have a num pad, heh |
| 14:15.25 | Amarande | instead of this cheap logitech wireless I've got, seeing as the numpad is now redundant :P |
| 14:19.17 | karl_w_w | btw airtonix, there are no good movies |
| 14:19.37 | airtonix | karl_w_w: didn't you like the new xmen? |
| 14:19.49 | karl_w_w | yeah that was good |
| 14:19.50 | airtonix | karl_w_w: it had tyrion lanister in it |
| 14:19.55 | airtonix | automatically good |
| 14:20.01 | Kodiack | Peter Dinklage! |
| 14:20.10 | airtonix | also didn't make references to his height |
| 14:20.10 | karl_w_w | it's true |
| 14:20.12 | Kodiack | http://www.danbarham.com/dinklage/ |
| 14:20.18 | airtonix | another plus |
| 14:20.20 | Kodiack | That's all that went through my head whenever he had screen time |
| 14:20.53 | airtonix | did you notice that karl_w_w? |
| 14:21.05 | airtonix | game of thrones: constant dwarf joke |
| 14:21.21 | airtonix | x-men: darwins apprentice |
| 14:21.40 | airtonix | plz karl_w_w |
| 14:22.23 | airtonix | ok karl_w_w. i'm revoking your two weekly "favourite person" lisence |
| 14:22.32 | airtonix | and stuff |
| 14:27.37 | Amarande | on top of that, a compact keyboard with no numpad is probably better for wow |
| 14:27.45 | Amarande | now I grok why one of the razer blackwidow models doesn't have one :) |
| 14:33.40 | Amarande | hm, wait, now the numlock seems to work but the LED never changes |
| 14:33.43 | Amarande | LOOOOOOOOOOGITECH |
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| 14:59.05 | jleclanche | Amarande: outrage caps emphasises the last syllable, not the first |
| 14:59.15 | jleclanche | first syllable emphasis is encouragement caps |
| 14:59.35 | Amarande | bah, the only one I know off the top of my head is KHAAAAAAAAAAN and that's only one syllable LOL |
| 15:00.04 | Amarande | hm, wonder if this lack of LED responsiveness from the numlock is a sign that this keyboard is already starting to die |
| 15:00.15 | Amarande | how long ago did I even buy this thing, I can't remember now but I'm sure it hasn't been more than a year or so *sigh* |
| 15:00.29 | Amarande | long enough that I can't return it, certainly |
| 15:02.22 | jleclanche | Amarande: If the numlock led is dying, that is enough to go under warranty |
| 15:02.43 | jleclanche | and warranties are two years |
| 15:04.20 | Amarande | I'll have to check it in the bios, I suppose |
| 15:04.33 | Amarande | since it not turning on in windows could be another foible of hyper-v |
| 15:04.40 | Amarande | hell getting it to work at all with hyper-v was apparently a challenge |
| 15:09.10 | karl_w_w | yes I did notice airtonix |
| 15:09.23 | airtonix | too late karl_w_w. |
| 15:09.33 | karl_w_w | I'm ok with that |
| 15:09.39 | airtonix | no you're not |
| 15:09.51 | karl_w_w | don't lie |
| 15:10.00 | airtonix | you're huddling in a corner of wallowing doubt, fueld by tears of grief and despair |
| 15:10.29 | airtonix | i'll consider your lisence renewal in two weeks |
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| 17:27.16 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: was it you who was looking for a wildstar eu exile guild the other day? |
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| 17:43.00 | nevcairiel | jleclanche: no |
| 17:56.28 | jleclanche | someone was |
| 17:56.52 | jleclanche | and I have my guild now so if anyone is looking, let me know |
| 17:58.24 | zenzelezz | a French one? |
| 17:59.04 | jleclanche | well yeah but the wildstar section is pretty small so we're looking for anglophones too |
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| 18:38.37 | Simca | somebody should make "'Anglophone', a Parody of 'Payphone'" |
| 18:38.54 | Simca | would be great |
| 18:43.01 | Fisker | No! |
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| 18:50.04 | Simca | also, fyi, GetItemInfo(id) is broken. GetItemInfo("item:"..ID) works. |
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| 19:00.44 | foxlit | on a completely hypothetical note, how sorry would people be if /click disappeared? |
| 19:00.58 | nevcairiel | what are you breaking again |
| 19:01.24 | nevcairiel | i've seen many people using click to call another macro from a macro, via action button |
| 19:01.29 | foxlit | the same thing I break every night, pinky. |
| 19:01.47 | Semlar | oh, did you find out you can disable buttons with arbitrary code in combat? |
| 19:02.20 | Semlar | i figured that out when this came up last time wif the random number generator |
| 19:03.00 | foxlit | Fun fact: :Disable() was not protected in 2.0. |
| 19:03.14 | Semlar | disable is protected now but there's a basically identical function that isn't |
| 19:03.16 | nevcairiel | 2.0 is 4.0 ago |
| 19:03.48 | foxlit | :) |
| 19:04.24 | foxlit | Semlar: no, disabling buttons is not what I had in mind; not sure what exactly you could mean. |
| 19:04.36 | Semlar | in that case ignore everything i just said |
| 19:05.04 | Semlar | do dee doo |
| 19:05.25 | Neffi | no semlar |
| 19:05.29 | Semlar | ! |
| 19:06.13 | Semlar | keep it secret, keep it safe |
| 19:07.03 | foxlit | And killing the script handler would only really work once. |
| 19:07.27 | nevcairiel | disabling a button is only useful if you can also enable it again |
| 19:07.30 | Semlar | you know that interruptPro addon |
| 19:07.52 | foxlit | nevcairiel: or you have a large stockpile of things to disable. |
| 19:07.55 | Semlar | i think they were using nameplate toggles or whatever |
| 19:08.10 | nevcairiel | obvious guess, now that they have been disabled |
| 19:08.12 | Semlar | well this is much more exploitable |
| 19:08.52 | Simca | foxlit: is there a difference between /click button and /run Button:Click() |
| 19:08.58 | Fisker | Damnit foxlit stop being the George R.R. Martin of addons |
| 19:09.11 | Semlar | kill them all! |
| 19:10.04 | nevcairiel | Simca: the latter probably doesnt work on secure buttons, or so would be my guess |
| 19:10.35 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.57 | Semlar | /clicks neffi's buttons |
| 19:10.59 | foxlit | :Click() typically isn’t for addons. |
| 19:11.56 | Simca | it would be in a macro though, yeah? |
| 19:12.10 | foxlit | no. /run is tainted. |
| 19:12.23 | Simca | ah |
| 19:17.32 | Simca | still trying to figure out the item bonus system, but it seems unfinished. was trying one of the more complex ItemBonusIDs and got -fun- as a result: http://i.imgur.com/nUFvp6v.png |
| 19:18.14 | Gnarfoz | violate all the asserts |
| 19:18.17 | nevcairiel | obviously you went over the limit and triggered an assert, hardly fun |
| 19:18.37 | Fisker | Push it to the limit |
| 19:19.14 | Simca | the ID I used is defined in ItemBonus.db2! |
| 19:19.27 | Simca | apparently they just haven't coded support for it working in tooltips or something |
| 19:20.35 | Simca | looked like a pretty shitty bonus, whatever it was, since if I'm reading this right, it caused your item to lose 20 ilvls |
| 19:21.02 | Semlar | pretty sure it causes your game to crash |
| 19:21.11 | Semlar | bonus! |
| 19:22.21 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: Push id to the limit |
| 19:23.15 | Fisker | Walk along the razor's edge |
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| 19:32.57 | Simca | oops, i see what i did wrong. the final number is optional based on whether the previous number is 0 or 1: http://i.imgur.com/7ommgMB.png |
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| 20:20.17 | Simca | most confusing DB2 in a long long time |
| 20:23.57 | zenzelezz | DB2? |
| 20:26.23 | Gnarfoz | one of WoW's file formats |
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| 20:31.32 | zenzelezz | ah |
| 20:32.04 | Simca | that last new field to itemstring can (by itself): modify item name, modify item title, change itemlevel, change item quality, change item stat types, and add new item stats, among at least 4 other types i haven't figured out yet |
| 20:32.16 | Simca | http://i.imgur.com/7EPHzVc.png |
| 20:32.18 | Alram | #wowdb2dev |
| 20:33.01 | Simca | best crafting axe |
| 20:33.33 | *** join/#wowuidev wodim (~iddqd@kvirc/developer/wodim) |
| 20:33.37 | wodim | hao |
| 20:34.05 | wodim | i wonder if there is a way to see all buffs/auras, even those who are hidden? |
| 20:36.40 | Simca | I don't think so, wodim. you have to watch for application in the combat log, assuming the spell that casts the aura isn't classified as 'system' |
| 20:36.55 | kd3 | oh simca, wowdb bug report for you: quests that display objectives at different times are listing them in the wrong order |
| 20:37.12 | kd3 | for example, http://beta.wowdb.com/quests/32980-eaters-of-the-elements, child of the fury rescued is supposed to be last |
| 20:37.26 | wodim | Simca: and if it's system then nothing? |
| 20:37.53 | Simca | yeah pretty sure you'd have to do something that violates ToS to track completely hidden spells |
| 20:38.11 | wodim | such as? |
| 20:38.13 | wodim | packet inspection? |
| 20:38.29 | wodim | i just want auras out of curiosity |
| 20:38.42 | Simca | packet inspection might work, and i don't think that violates ToS. probably doesn't as long as you don't change anything anyway |
| 20:39.11 | wodim | meh |
| 20:39.20 | wodim | but do the auras arrive at the client? |
| 20:39.20 | Alram | packet inspection definitely violates the ToS |
| 20:39.42 | Alram | not that they can find out though! |
| 20:41.01 | Simca | meh |
| 20:41.19 | Simca | if you're just looking at something, it seems like it's morally acceptable anyway |
| 20:41.32 | Alram | sure |
| 20:41.46 | Shadowed | Regardless of morally acceptable or not, we follow the ToS. So let's not have this discussion here |
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| 20:43.41 | wodim | any place to have this discussion then? |
| 20:43.54 | Alram | private messages! |
| 20:44.22 | Shadowed | Where you have it is up to you. Just not in this channel |
| 20:44.24 | wodim | so if someone has a handy solution he can /q me |
| 20:44.34 | Shadowed | ... that also doesn't mean advertising in here |
| 20:44.40 | Shadowed | rolleyes |
| 20:45.21 | wodim | Shadowed: i understand it, your channel, your rules |
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| 20:55.28 | Simca | and kd3: thanks, added a ticket for it |
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| 21:09.26 | kd3|hate`net | np |
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| 22:17.47 | Shirik | http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/8/5790936/computer-passes-turing-test-for-first-time-by-convincing-judges-it-is?utm_content=buffercb2c9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer |
| 22:27.30 | Kesava | i've lost trake of how many times a bot has passed the turing test for the first time |
| 22:27.33 | Kesava | trake. |
| 23:02.58 | plaw | http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/08/super-computer-simulates-13-year-old-boy-passes-turing-test |
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