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| 02:31.01 | kd3 | oh wow, that's an odd bug. https://twitter.com/Rygarius/status/469298738734039040 |
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| 02:40.32 | jleclanche | kd3: cant tell if this is about hs or wow |
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| 02:42.57 | kd3 | wow |
| 02:44.08 | jleclanche | kd3: wtf is a 0/4 in wow |
| 02:44.22 | jleclanche | cause thats an aldor shieldbearer |
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| 02:58.00 | Gethe | jleclanche: they are refering to using Burdens of Eternity on the timless isle gear, which can now be upgraded 4 times. |
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| 03:22.10 | kd3|hate`net | more specifically: https://twitter.com/Rygarius/status/469306966435577856 |
| 03:31.33 | Gethe | http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2014/may/redDarkPortal.jpg |
| 03:31.36 | Gethe | hmmm |
| 03:32.04 | kd3 | they said back at blizzcon that going to Draenor B turned the portal red |
| 03:32.34 | Gethe | yeah iknow, but it seems its in the files somewhere now |
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| 03:33.22 | Dagmar | It's like how it was on Fringe |
| 03:33.34 | Dagmar | The color is how you can tell which timeline you're dealing with. ;) |
| 03:33.53 | Torhal | Dagmar: Plus whether or not oxidation exists. |
| 03:34.41 | Gethe | and zepplins. oh wait... |
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| 03:35.15 | Dagmar | ...and whether or not you're dealing with BeefyTrolls or just jungle hippies |
| 03:35.33 | Torhal | ambers Fisker-. |
| 03:35.41 | Gethe | D: |
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| 03:59.10 | Fisker- | no Torhal |
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| 03:59.27 | Torhal | I was saving you, Fisker. |
| 04:03.36 | plaw | Fisker: |
| 04:03.50 | plaw | hugs Iriel |
| 04:09.03 | Thunder_Child_ | Iriel: I am def getting one because they are taking mine away at work. |
| 04:09.25 | Iriel | Thunder_Child_: For home or for work? |
| 04:10.00 | Thunder_Child_ | Iriel: I am really tempted to get 2 and do both. But I suspect I would start at work since that is where I spend most of my time. |
| 04:10.58 | Iriel | I’ll be very interested to hear how it is |
| 04:11.07 | Iriel | In theory I could justify getting one for my birthday, but I’ll wait 8-) |
| 04:11.51 | Thunder_Child_ | There was a used one for ~$550 and it said it only had some cosmetic dmg. |
| 04:13.29 | Wobin | Transistor is pretty cool |
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| 05:55.44 | airtonix | hey Fisker, shift change. |
| 05:57.04 | airtonix | Wobin: have you bought it already? |
| 05:58.22 | Wobin | yes |
| 05:58.53 | airtonix | is it better than bastion? |
| 05:59.01 | Wobin | completely different |
| 05:59.03 | airtonix | more engrossing? |
| 05:59.18 | Wobin | combat is a lot more interesting |
| 05:59.26 | airtonix | is there a linux native? |
| 05:59.28 | Wobin | music is... almost as good |
| 06:01.09 | Wobin | unknown |
| 06:01.17 | Wobin | I suspect 'not yet' |
| 06:01.23 | Wobin | but in the works |
| 06:02.11 | Wobin | ux is slightly awkward at times |
| 06:02.20 | Wobin | but plays well with a controller |
| 06:02.36 | Wobin | aiming might be more simpler with the mouse, however |
| 06:03.54 | Wobin | story is pretty cool, though |
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| 07:09.16 | Wobin | jleclanche: Light Table vs Atom vs ST3? |
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| 08:33.44 | jleclanche | Wobin: ive not used atom nor st3 |
| 08:35.02 | jleclanche | Wobin: lighttable has a bit of an emacs feel to it, what with being written in lisp and configurable in lisp just as much |
| 08:35.19 | bluspacecow | LOL @ Aussies http://imgur.com/gallery/10exxbt [NSFW Language] |
| 08:35.26 | jleclanche | sublime is extremely powerful when you compare it to lighttable but nowhere near as scriptable |
| 08:35.42 | bluspacecow | http://imgur.com/gallery/7tL4aaz |
| 08:35.48 | bluspacecow | potatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotato |
| 08:36.03 | Wobin | bluspacecow: http://www.putyouinabettermood.com/ |
| 08:36.49 | bluspacecow | LOL |
| 08:38.15 | Semlar | anyone know which one of these spells is the "explosion" effect that hits people who aren't standing in it http://wowhead.com/spell=142986 |
| 08:38.26 | jleclanche | Wobin: lighttable is also very young, compared to sublime. i would say out of the box its less polished, but then again it is only in 0.6 |
| 08:38.47 | jleclanche | Wobin: lastly, lighttable is open source. atom did also go open source recently which is awesome |
| 08:39.09 | Wobin | jleclanche: I just want a IDE that can read my mind, is that so much to ask? =P |
| 08:39.18 | airtonix | Wobin: vim |
| 08:39.24 | airtonix | apparently it has your baby for you |
| 08:39.32 | Wobin | but can it heal my raid? |
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| 08:40.03 | airtonix | well it seems like it would for all the ejaculatory exclamations from other machoistic developers out there/ |
| 08:40.26 | airtonix | rawr. i'm awesome because I use vim on a macbook!!!! |
| 08:40.26 | jleclanche | Wobin: lighttable would do the trick if you are willing to work on the settings the first day |
| 08:41.00 | Kalroth | emacs can heal your raid |
| 08:41.16 | Semlar | but can it edit text |
| 08:41.25 | Kalroth | i'm not sure, never used it for that |
| 08:41.59 | jleclanche | emacs is like the grandfather of the "you mean my phone can make calls" joke |
| 08:42.00 | airtonix | :< first plugin listed on the video is : Vim |
| 08:42.07 | airtonix | seriously.fuck.vim |
| 08:42.27 | airtonix | utterly.retarded.keyboard.combinations |
| 08:42.48 | Wobin | unlike emacs =P |
| 08:43.01 | airtonix | i wouldn't know |
| 08:43.14 | Kalroth | i prefer nano |
| 08:43.17 | jleclanche | airtonix: there are solid reasons *why* vim mode is extremely popular |
| 08:43.18 | airtonix | st is, as far as I'm concerned, awesome |
| 08:43.34 | airtonix | vim is just macho chest beating |
| 08:43.52 | airtonix | omg i can do the work of fifty octopussy with only my ten fingers |
| 08:44.01 | airtonix | i.am.god.here |
| 08:44.14 | Kalroth | well if you ARE well hung, why not advertise it |
| 08:44.41 | airtonix | you're behaving in a slightly heretical manner Kalroth |
| 08:44.50 | Kalroth | i would never |
| 08:45.02 | airtonix | wouldn't want to schedule a black van appointment now |
| 08:45.20 | Kalroth | ooh, guests! |
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| 08:47.49 | airtonix | jleclanche: did you say lighttable was written in lisp? |
| 08:48.59 | jleclanche | airtonix: in clojurescript (javascript) |
| 08:49.19 | jleclanche | its very much an html app. it even has a builtin browser |
| 08:49.46 | airtonix | for a minute then, i thought the built in docs were just a markdown file |
| 08:49.54 | airtonix | that it was rendering in a nifty way |
| 08:50.21 | jleclanche | theres a markdown renderer plugin |
| 08:50.44 | airtonix | where are the docs stored? (about > documentation) |
| 08:51.22 | airtonix | compiled into the binary? |
| 08:51.50 | airtonix | are they're in the nw.pak |
| 08:51.53 | airtonix | ahh* |
| 08:53.53 | jleclanche | Theres a lighttable tutorial on the web. i skipped the videos, though you absolutely need to watch the one regarding user behaviours |
| 08:54.01 | jleclanche | which is their "local settings" file |
| 08:55.40 | airtonix | ok |
| 08:55.56 | airtonix | the command thing seems to be like sublimes command pallete |
| 08:56.49 | airtonix | plugins you recommend jleclanche? |
| 08:58.04 | jleclanche | airtonix: the languages you'll use, color picker and palette for css (though I wish there was a single, better plugin for it that made it work like the webkit inspector), visible whitespace and I havent tried gitlight yet |
| 08:58.20 | jleclanche | Im using the clojure, css, html, js, markdown and python plugins |
| 08:59.14 | jleclanche | Im also using the vim plugin but extremely unhappy with it |
| 08:59.29 | airtonix | glad to hear it |
| 08:59.31 | airtonix | vim sucks |
| 08:59.36 | airtonix | ;p |
| 09:01.05 | jleclanche | its not because of vim mode im unhappy, its because it has a shitty engine for it |
| 09:02.49 | jleclanche | airtonix: you should consider using vim mode. start with minor stuff. when in input mode, mode vim bindings function like any other gui editor |
| 09:03.13 | airtonix | grumps |
| 09:03.19 | jleclanche | (though as i said, the vim plugin really sucks and doesnt have proper bindings when in input mode, so dont try it with lighttable unless you want to configure it) |
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| 09:04.46 | jleclanche | airtonix: its simple commands such as 123gg to go to line 123, instead of ctrl+g123enter |
| 09:05.15 | jleclanche | or 200dd to delete 200 lines instead of selecting all of them and hitting backspace |
| 09:06.08 | jleclanche | heck, if you hold d, you can continuously delete lines. a feature that no text editor i know of has outside of vim input mode |
| 09:07.28 | jleclanche | airtonix: these things are not hard to remember, they're immediately useful and you can still use your regular keybinds the rest of the time |
| 09:07.46 | airtonix | how do you move into input mode though |
| 09:09.16 | jleclanche | i from visual mode gets you into input mode |
| 09:09.23 | jleclanche | esc from input mode gets you back to visual mode |
| 09:12.16 | Workfoz | i, among other things (: |
| 09:12.27 | Workfoz | (which doesn't invalidate the statement) |
| 09:17.23 | karl_w_w | I don't like a booking system that has reserved seating but doesn't let you choose the seat |
| 09:17.29 | karl_w_w | it just assumes it knows best |
| 09:17.41 | airtonix | or that you don't have enough money to choose |
| 09:17.44 | karl_w_w | maybe I prefer to sit a bit further back if I can sit in the middle |
| 09:18.16 | airtonix | uses a booking site < sure sign you don't have enough money to choose. |
| 09:18.50 | karl_w_w | the premium seats sold out in less than 2 hours airtonix |
| 09:20.45 | karl_w_w | I'd laugh if it tried to give me seats that weren't next to each other |
| 09:22.03 | airtonix | are you laughing? |
| 09:22.20 | karl_w_w | thankfully not |
| 09:22.42 | karl_w_w | what an odd thing to say |
| 09:23.28 | airtonix | not as odd as calling yourself an operating system |
| 09:23.47 | airtonix | anyway, godzilla was as i expected |
| 09:25.06 | karl_w_w | craptacular? |
| 09:25.24 | airtonix | frustrating |
| 09:25.42 | karl_w_w | did you masturbate in the theatre? |
| 09:25.47 | airtonix | i wanted godzilla to recite haiku |
| 09:36.07 | Wobin | GRaRWr Grawar grGrawr Grarph / Grorgh grawr grawwrgh Summer grrawl grawl / Grawr grawrrll grrawl grawl growl |
| 09:37.01 | airtonix | you have some grawmatical errors there |
| 09:37.12 | Wobin | It's my second language |
| 09:37.57 | karl_w_w | wobin it happened |
| 09:38.11 | Wobin | karl_w_w: It did? |
| 09:38.15 | karl_w_w | I bought tickets to see KMH |
| 09:38.19 | Wobin | \o/ |
| 09:38.24 | karl_w_w | in august |
| 09:38.34 | Wobin | I'm wondering how it'll differ from next week's concert |
| 09:38.40 | Wobin | if at all |
| 09:39.07 | Wobin | I'm sad because the Janelle Monae/Kimbra concert was cancelled |
| 09:39.18 | Wobin | (also concerned about Ms Monae's health) |
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| 10:01.01 | Workfoz | Caleb|: great, found some websites explaining it and even a really great video http://youtu.be/SL2fbX1n2ec?t=2m58s |
| 10:01.30 | Workfoz | Caleb|: now I understand how all the parts fit together and what you meant with some of the things you said :D |
| 10:02.00 | Workfoz | randomly not the channel I intended, but hey |
| 10:22.20 | airtonix | btw wobin/karl_w_w did you know about clueyvoter? |
| 10:22.58 | airtonix | https://www.clueyvoter.com/ |
| 10:22.59 | karl_w_w | no |
| 10:23.09 | Wobin | I've used belowtheline and others before |
| 10:23.36 | Wobin | but this looks pretty good |
| 10:23.52 | airtonix | isn't that just western australia? |
| 10:24.08 | airtonix | apparently not |
| 10:24.45 | Wobin | http://www.belowtheline.org.au/state/nsw.html |
| 10:25.20 | airtonix | i wish either of them would use mobile friendly themes |
| 10:26.35 | airtonix | yeah no chance of using senate.io on my phone |
| 10:27.12 | zenzio | "[...] common web browsers, including Microsoft® Internet Explorer®, Mozilla® Firefox®, Google® Chrome®, Apple® Safari®, and Opera™." |
| 10:27.15 | airtonix | they should join forces and just focus on a RESTful api |
| 10:28.40 | karl_w_w | those below the line voting guides are the downfall of democracy :P |
| 10:29.25 | karl_w_w | because dumb people never use them, and dumb people vote for people like tony abbott |
| 10:30.06 | Wobin | It sounds like the actual reason is... dumb people. |
| 10:30.08 | airtonix | tony is such a waste of space |
| 10:30.41 | airtonix | only dumb people and people that take advantage of dumb people like him |
| 10:31.15 | airtonix | and the dark emporer sith lord |
| 10:31.35 | airtonix | tony abbot is dath vader |
| 10:32.05 | airtonix | and rupert murdoch is palpatine(?) |
| 10:32.27 | nevcairiel | your spelling is correct |
| 10:32.30 | airtonix | something something something foxtel something something something dialup |
| 10:34.41 | karl_w_w | you're a pensioner who has to work a phone sex line to survive? let me smirk and wink like a schoolboy |
| 10:35.01 | Wobin | current pack of politicians are so terribly immature |
| 10:35.06 | airtonix | yes you're right |
| 10:35.22 | airtonix | i should be working in a phosphorus filled factory |
| 10:35.29 | Wobin | also, worst Speaker of the House |
| 10:35.34 | karl_w_w | turnbull seems very mature |
| 10:35.38 | airtonix | becuase that's honourable work |
| 10:35.50 | karl_w_w | children can't lie as convincingly as him |
| 10:35.57 | Wobin | karl_w_w: That may just be proximity to Pyne |
| 10:36.23 | Wobin | what a 'grub' |
| 10:36.43 | karl_w_w | I have never seen a politician lie other than nixon and these guys |
| 10:36.59 | karl_w_w | break promises sure, but lie about current facts never |
| 10:37.56 | airtonix | oh yes... foxtel will be quite operational |
| 10:38.11 | airtonix | join us, in the dark side |
| 10:38.32 | karl_w_w | I once dark sided a guy |
| 10:38.36 | karl_w_w | he didn't mind |
| 10:38.59 | jleclanche | so heres the thing |
| 10:39.04 | jleclanche | you have cairne and rivendare on the field |
| 10:39.13 | jleclanche | the opponent is like "oh damn, I cant do anything about this" |
| 10:39.25 | karl_w_w | mass dispel might be a thing |
| 10:39.28 | jleclanche | for 6 mana, you turn that into 4 baine bloodhoof and 3 cairne bloodhoof |
| 10:39.35 | jleclanche | not facing priests might be a thing too :P |
| 10:40.06 | karl_w_w | value of the beast goes down, and it doesn't even get played now |
| 10:40.39 | jleclanche | yeah, "bad" deathrattles are just going to be insanely bad now |
| 10:42.19 | karl_w_w | i haven't seen a card that deals with the problem of some people being able to do insane combos with leeroy or similar |
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| 10:42.40 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: I have |
| 10:42.56 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: rebirth makes this possible with shamans as well. |
| 10:43.05 | jleclanche | wait, that doesn't deal with it at all, that just makes the problem worse |
| 10:43.08 | jleclanche | BLIZZARD! |
| 10:51.00 | karl_w_w | eh, it's no worse than windfury for that purpose |
| 10:53.04 | karl_w_w | i guess the worst would be leeroy windfury rockbiter for 18, rebirth for 6 more |
| 10:53.09 | karl_w_w | yeah thats pretty bad |
| 10:53.53 | karl_w_w | that's lethal if there's already a flametongue on the board |
| 10:56.31 | karl_w_w | but leeroy windfury double rockbiter is just as bad, with 1 mana left over for a lightning bolt |
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| 13:52.31 | Fisker | I miss Lopeppeppy |
| 13:52.40 | Lopeppeppy | I miss me too. |
| 13:58.29 | zenzio | I miss most of my shots in artilleries :( |
| 13:59.06 | nevcairiel | artillery is hard |
| 14:00.01 | karl_w_w | I miss capillary |
| 14:00.05 | zenzio | it is |
| 14:07.19 | Kalroth | http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-27517591 Thailand military seizes power in coup |
| 14:07.22 | Kalroth | welp |
| 14:08.28 | zenzio | I thought that happened not long ago too? |
| 14:08.36 | zenzio | maybe that was another of those countries |
| 14:09.03 | Kalroth | "Facebook Offers Privacy Checkup to All 1.28 Billion Users" - you only have to give them the remaining details of your life and they'll check up on it |
| 14:10.05 | Kalroth | Thailand has been messy for a while now, but the military didn't do a coup before today |
| 14:10.17 | Kalroth | supposedly it's to protect the citizens |
| 14:22.09 | bluspacecow | *nibbles on Lopeppeppy* |
| 14:23.08 | Lopeppeppy | I have cherries. That will make my day better. It must. |
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| 14:42.20 | Ycarene | Is it possible to have a reputation so bad that you can't get into an lfg? |
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| 14:58.13 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:10.22 | Kesava | .... |
| 15:10.31 | Kesava | this ability cannot be cast on beastmaster or invis god targets? |
| 15:13.38 | Kesava | i'm guessing invis god probably refers to one of the invisible bunnies that control the world |
| 15:13.46 | Kesava | but it happened on a quest ogre. which then disappeared. |
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| 15:24.20 | karl_w_w | that ogre was the second coming |
| 15:24.30 | karl_w_w | oh tigole |
| 15:24.41 | karl_w_w | of* |
| 15:24.48 | Kesava | i killed it :( |
| 15:24.57 | kd3 | bleh at going offline less than an hour before the alpha patch dropped |
| 15:25.40 | karl_w_w | how dare you have other things to do |
| 15:27.09 | Unkle | kd3: What? You want to sleep or eat? *whipcrack* NO! BACK TO WORK, MINION! |
| 15:37.18 | zenzelezz | I usually don't want to do either, but they're a necessary evil |
| 15:40.15 | bluspacecow | Nooooooooo |
| 15:40.26 | bluspacecow | *giefs kd3 senzu bean* |
| 15:40.38 | bluspacecow | *protects from all attackers while kd3 gets a cat nap* |
| 15:40.49 | bluspacecow | *cooks pizza for kd3* |
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| 16:07.09 | Arrowmaster | really Fidelity, no symbols allowed in my password, fucking amateurs |
| 16:09.22 | Dagmar | Report it to thedailywtf |
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| 16:14.14 | Unkle | pompy: http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/05/nasa-hands-space-enthusiasts-the-keys-to-a-1970s-era-spacecraft/ |
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| 16:21.58 | pompy1 | Unkle: thats pretty sweet. |
| 16:22.52 | pompy1 | Arrowmaster: gg, and Fidelity sent me a sealed thing in postal mail just to tell me my username and or password was changed lol...i was like really. |
| 16:23.43 | Arrowmaster | all i wanted to do was change it so they wouldnt automatically take money out of my paycheck yet since i dont know how long ill be there |
| 16:23.58 | Arrowmaster | had to make a damn account and everything just to tell them to fuck off |
| 16:25.19 | pompy1 | at least you have benefits! |
| 16:26.50 | Arrowmaster | no that is my only benefit |
| 16:26.55 | Arrowmaster | and im turning it down |
| 16:29.43 | Arrowmaster | i would have to work there for 5 years to get fully vested on the employer contributions so its not worth it right now for a contract possition |
| 16:44.27 | Unkle | Last shooting day for WoW movie today. |
| 16:45.19 | zenzelezz | they finally started? I thought that thing was the DNF of movies |
| 16:46.02 | Unkle | Started? They're wrapping up shooting today. At last BlizzCon the director was there to talk about the project which had already begun production. |
| 16:47.05 | Fisker | I thought it was a Warcraft movie and not wow movie |
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| 16:48.55 | Unkle | six of one, half-dozen of the other. |
| 16:50.00 | TC-Work | Are you sure Unkle? Because I think we were bidding on the CGI work no too long ago. |
| 16:50.22 | TC-Work | not too* |
| 16:50.35 | Unkle | The director posted that today was the last day of shooting. |
| 16:50.44 | Unkle | @manmademoon on Twitter. |
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| 17:14.19 | bluspacecow | http://us-looking-glass.battle.net/ |
| 17:17.30 | jleclanche | bluspacecow: is that new? |
| 17:17.37 | g0urra | http://imgur.com/gallery/WhWIlGX |
| 17:17.50 | bluspacecow | not seen it until now |
| 17:18.02 | bluspacecow | just noticed one of the US blues had it in his signature |
| 17:18.04 | jleclanche | its very cool |
| 17:18.12 | bluspacecow | yes its Blizzard to you btw |
| 17:18.16 | bluspacecow | not you to Blizzard |
| 17:19.53 | Simca | extremely useful that it shows packet loss |
| 17:22.35 | bluspacecow | In Mother Russia Blizzard PING you ! |
| 17:24.57 | bluspacecow | zomg heroes patch |
| 17:26.52 | g0urra | http://i.imgur.com/UMCY1r8.gif |
| 17:32.45 | alestane | I'm not sure what that's supposed to signify, probably because I haven't seen the right movie or something. |
| 17:39.25 | Shirik | wtf |
| 17:39.29 | Shirik | fedex is delivering something EARLY |
| 17:39.31 | Shirik | this is impossible |
| 17:40.14 | Fisker | Nice bluspacecow may shut up whiners |
| 17:40.33 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy |
| 17:41.07 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, I have no more brains left, the grand boss is eating them. |
| 17:41.16 | Fisker | :( |
| 17:41.22 | Fisker | Dumb grand boss |
| 17:41.24 | Arrowmaster | dis is good http://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/26708d/how_can_i_tell_if_my_system_administrator_is/chogcc9 |
| 17:41.36 | Fisker | Can I eat grand boss? |
| 17:41.43 | bluspacecow | nope |
| 17:41.48 | bluspacecow | I eat brand boss |
| 17:41.52 | bluspacecow | drand boss |
| 17:41.54 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 17:41.58 | bluspacecow | i cants type |
| 17:52.06 | jleclanche | "A recent Wall Street Journal column argues that Snowden might have been working for the Russians and Chinese at the same time." |
| 17:52.22 | foxlit | also the communist lizard men from the moon. |
| 17:52.29 | jleclanche | he murdered people while raping kids and praying to allah. |
| 17:52.49 | jleclanche | WSJ Editor: "Yeah, this sounds like it's worth publishing." |
| 17:54.16 | Fisker | Obviously questions worth raising |
| 17:55.06 | foxlit | meh |
| 17:56.12 | Maldivia | jleclanche: they might as well have written "A recent article on The Onion blah blah" |
| 17:56.14 | foxlit | so the WSJ column quotes an unnamed “former member of president obama’s cabinet” for that assertion. |
| 17:56.49 | jleclanche | Maldivia: this would totally be an onion article |
| 17:58.06 | jleclanche | I can picture it right now. |
| 17:58.18 | Arrowmaster | like that forbes article comparing net neutrality to housing costs |
| 17:58.20 | jleclanche | Maldivia: "Snowden found to be working for the chinese, the russians, al-qaeda, the KKK and nazi germany at the same time" |
| 17:58.37 | foxlit | and doesn’t actually argue in favour of that particular interpretation. |
| 17:59.19 | foxlit | but hey, Wired wants their soundbites too. |
| 18:02.37 | karl_w_w | http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/no-kidding-watch-disabled-baby-3589659 that's an unfortunate url |
| 18:03.24 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 18:50.36 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: http://puu.sh/8ThPV.gif |
| 18:51.02 | Cairenn | hehehhe |
| 18:55.04 | zenzelezz | oh, kitties... |
| 19:21.01 | Shirik | Cairenn: have you seen this http://www.putyouinabettermood.com/ |
| 19:21.23 | Cairenn | awwwww! |
| 19:23.17 | TC-Work | Shirik: I suspect a page of scrolling bacon would do just the same. |
| 19:25.46 | Cairenn | no |
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| 19:36.42 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: I found new camera tech for you |
| 19:36.45 | Shirik | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX8sP_JMIC8 |
| 19:37.33 | TC-Work | Shirik: Yea, I have seen that before. |
| 19:37.56 | TC-Work | I actually did a photoshoot at work a few weeks ago. |
| 19:38.18 | Shirik | nice |
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| 20:14.45 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: maybe youll like this https://www.humblebundle.com/books |
| 20:15.08 | Arrowmaster | yeah i already got that |
| 20:16.19 | TC-Work | jleclanche: Is there a way to pass data directly from the view to a template without needing to use the url? |
| 20:16.32 | jleclanche | Maldivia: you might like it too :) |
| 20:16.45 | jleclanche | TC-Work: of course, you use the context |
| 20:16.48 | jleclanche | thats what its for |
| 20:17.10 | jleclanche | return render(request, "foo.html", {anything in here}) |
| 20:17.18 | TC-Work | You need to stop talking like I know what I am doing. I'm looking it up now. |
| 20:17.46 | jleclanche | TC-Work: the dictionary you pass to render() is called the context. The context is a set of variables you can evaluate from the template. |
| 20:18.00 | jleclanche | TC-Work: you really, really should go through the django tutorial, this stuff is very basic and explained in it |
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| 20:18.43 | relaxok | can whoever was talking about the way blizzard associates the C++ pointers to the frames with lua re-hash that a bit for me? |
| 20:18.54 | relaxok | something about using key 0 in a table |
| 20:23.14 | zenzelezz | "To make sure we're following current best practices for security, we've made some changes to how we're storing user passwords. As a result, [...] change your password". Thanks SourceForge, that does not make it sound like you've been compromised |
| 20:23.31 | nevcairiel | Key 0 contains what Lua calls user data, which is just a reference to the underlying C data |
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| 20:24.02 | TC-Work | jleclanche: I'm not finding when it adds that data to the template. |
| 20:25.12 | jleclanche | TC-Work: what do you mean "adds the data"? it makes it available |
| 20:25.28 | jleclanche | render(request, "foo.html", {"name": "Joe"}) |
| 20:25.36 | jleclanche | foo.html -> My name: {{ name }} |
| 20:25.57 | Fisker | Hope your boss didn't eat you Lopeppeppy |
| 20:26.03 | Fisker | Bye |
| 20:28.30 | jleclanche | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33089565/ry2014_thinkcspy/html/_ryTurtle04.html |
| 20:28.33 | jleclanche | I like that this is possible |
| 20:29.53 | Arrowmaster | i dont |
| 20:30.30 | Lopeppeppy | Mostly, yes he did. *sigh* |
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| 20:39.15 | Maldivia | jleclanche: cool :) |
| 20:39.55 | jleclanche | Maldivia: Cool chinese python or cool doctor who bundle? =P |
| 20:40.12 | Maldivia | well, both... not that the chinese python makes much sense, if you don't know chinese |
| 20:40.43 | Maldivia | but it's not like python is the only language that had full utf8 support for member names |
| 20:40.57 | nevcairiel | i think they should ban that in serious programming languages |
| 20:41.28 | nevcairiel | its crazy enough to have chinese comments in the code you're trying to understand |
| 20:42.51 | Maldivia | it's called job-security :) |
| 20:42.52 | Arrowmaster | if its a private closed source program go ahead use whatever language you want, if i find it online it better be in pure english |
| 20:43.58 | Unkle | Variable names "Nihao" and "BeautifulFlowerOfMorning" are bad enough in English. :P |
| 20:44.36 | nevcairiel | I know a few cases of open-source projects that got forked by russians, and their commit messages and comments of their changes are all in russian, makes trying to pick backports so incredibly hard, consider them even using russian variable names now |
| 20:45.02 | nevcairiel | luckily its C or C++, so no such shit |
| 20:45.41 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: python got that as a feature in python 3 |
| 20:46.09 | jleclanche | Im completely OK with it. I would never in a million years use it, but Im ok with it. it makes sense to let people do that |
| 20:46.50 | jleclanche | you're not going to make programming a more popular activity without giving more people the opportunity to work the field |
| 20:48.39 | Arrowmaster | i think we can all agree we are ok with the feature being there, we just dont want to ever really see it used though |
| 20:48.50 | jleclanche | clearly nevcairiel disagrees |
| 20:48.55 | nevcairiel | thats really backwards Arrowmaster |
| 20:49.07 | nevcairiel | what use is it if we all agree that it shouldnt be used :P |
| 20:49.16 | jleclanche | I dont think it shouldnt be used |
| 20:49.33 | jleclanche | I think it should be used in the right places only |
| 20:49.35 | Unkle | I'm fine with people being able to program in a language other than English. I'm just not fine with being expected to update or maintain that code. |
| 20:49.40 | Arrowmaster | i mean you arent going to avoid a language just because other people can use it in a non latin alphabet |
| 20:50.20 | jleclanche | exactly Unkle. I mean honestly, whats the difference between using extended alphabets or what people currently do in foreign closed source projects which is transliterate to ascii? |
| 20:50.41 | Arrowmaster | ive seen shell scripts entirely in french |
| 20:50.43 | jleclanche | French code is unreadable to me, it looks awful. but it is french |
| 20:50.57 | jleclanche | utf8 support merely extends the languages that can do that |
| 20:51.04 | Arrowmaster | it was fucking terrible and i wanted to be able to edit it but couldnt |
| 20:51.34 | jleclanche | Do it; don't expect people to be able to contribute, but go ahead and do it. there are places where this is completely OK |
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| 20:52.42 | Arrowmaster | this was in a playonlinux script, was not ok there |
| 20:53.03 | Unkle | I had to teach a computer class in Spanish once. My Spanish is not that great, and I learned it pre-1980. I had to learn a whole new set of words just to teach the class. I can't imagine trying to maintain code in Chinese, Cyrillic, Hebrew or Arabic scripts. |
| 20:53.19 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: it is no different than generally awful-looking code |
| 20:53.22 | Unkle | Or French. |
| 20:53.27 | Unkle | Because fuck that. |
| 20:53.43 | Arrowmaster | the problem with the french is they dont see a problem using french |
| 20:53.44 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: I cannot work on a script that looks like perl diarrhea. you dont need utf8 for that |
| 20:53.55 | jleclanche | no, the problem with the french is that they're fucking french |
| 20:54.33 | Unkle | jleclanche: I had no idea you felt that way. |
| 20:54.43 | jleclanche | you havent really been paying attention then |
| 20:55.07 | Arrowmaster | and yet you have this sorta french accent |
| 20:55.11 | Unkle | (France is the only country in the world where I've had a machine gun pointed at me. I'm not exactly fond of them as a result). |
| 20:59.34 | Neffi | jleclanche: somehow I thought you were French |
| 20:59.42 | Gnarfoz | he is |
| 20:59.46 | Neffi | lol |
| 20:59.51 | Gnarfoz | (well, that's not accurate) |
| 20:59.58 | jleclanche | Shut up I'm not |
| 20:59.59 | jleclanche | you're french |
| 21:00.02 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 21:00.06 | Neffi | Sounds like a French name to me |
| 21:00.08 | Arrowmaster | hes greek with a french+british accent |
| 21:00.22 | jleclanche | I'm moving to sweden in two months, its official now |
| 21:00.33 | Neffi | Cool beans. Why Sweden? |
| 21:00.38 | Arrowmaster | spotify? |
| 21:00.52 | jleclanche | no, just a change of scenery |
| 21:00.59 | Gnarfoz | eurovision 2016 |
| 21:01.02 | Gnarfoz | prep team |
| 21:01.09 | Arrowmaster | oh, everybody seems to be moving to sweden to work for spotify |
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| 21:01.36 | jleclanche | Well I almost did, but I work for someone else now. maybe down the line |
| 21:01.39 | jleclanche | i kept it in mind :p |
| 21:03.49 | Maldivia | I apparently didn't stop too far, as I ended up on the other side of Sweden |
| 21:04.16 | Maldivia | ehh... stop too far... yeah... nevermind |
| 21:06.11 | relaxok | nvcairiel: what do you mean by key 0 exactly in lua terms? table[0] = lightuserdata? (or full userdata?) |
| 21:08.02 | Arrowmaster | its light userdata i think |
| 21:13.44 | relaxok | how do you even set a table field with anything other than a const char* for a key, in lua? |
| 21:13.55 | relaxok | or is it "0" |
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| 21:14.44 | Arrowmaster | table[0] works |
| 21:17.46 | relaxok | i mean from the C API |
| 21:44.20 | TC-Work | jleclanche: render(request, 'map.html', {"loc":"bob"}), however alert({{ loc }}); does not do anything. What am I missing? |
| 21:44.50 | jleclanche | TC-Work: bob is gonna be undefined there |
| 21:45.08 | TC-Work | and if it returned [undefined] that would be fine |
| 21:45.15 | TC-Work | but I don't even get an alert |
| 21:45.23 | jleclanche | look at the actual source? |
| 21:45.47 | TC-Work | what source, I made a template with nothing in it. |
| 21:45.53 | TC-Work | except that alert |
| 21:46.15 | kd3 | oh wow. the new record for mario 64 120-star is now 1:43:42: http://www.twitch.tv/puncayshun/c/4305276 |
| 21:46.41 | Neffi | relaxok: push the table onto the stack; then push the number 0; then push the (lightuserdata); then call lua_settable for -3 (I believe) |
| 21:46.49 | mikma | http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1d7_1400542330 |
| 21:47.36 | Neffi | relaxok: see http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#lua_settable , as well as lua_pushnumber, lua_push* |
| 21:47.52 | Neffi | relaxok: or you may also see: lua_rawset |
| 21:49.02 | relaxok | Neffi: cool.. okay so the object is at 0.. how is that useful to the lua? does it interact in any way with the lua stuff in framexml? |
| 21:49.29 | Semlar | pops neffi onto the stack |
| 21:49.40 | foxlit | pushes neffi off the stack. |
| 21:49.43 | Neffi | relaxok: The frame API (like frame:Show()) check the userdata stored at frame[0] to know what it's operating on. That's a pointer to its internal representation |
| 21:49.48 | foxlit | Semlar, your verbs are all wrong, look at what you made me do. |
| 21:49.52 | Semlar | :) |
| 21:49.53 | Neffi | lol |
| 21:53.25 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/i/not.png << I wonder why amazon is doing that to the titles. |
| 21:57.05 | Mr_Rabies | they're the re-remakes |
| 21:57.29 | foxlit | (if you’re unfamiliar, there should be a (not) following every You) |
| 21:57.29 | Mr_Rabies | shinji's a lovable guy who just wants to meet his mom since his parents got divorced |
| 21:57.48 | foxlit | or, You (Modal Verb) |
| 21:58.09 | Semlar | you not are alone? |
| 21:58.12 | Mr_Rabies | i guess it's easier to see when truncated |
| 21:58.25 | Mr_Rabies | You are (No.. |
| 21:58.26 | Mr_Rabies | etc |
| 21:58.42 | Mr_Rabies | though not the title D: |
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| 22:00.57 | Semlar | if i had to guess |
| 22:00.59 | relaxok | Neffi: so the static function linked to Show in the table gets the pointer from key 0 |
| 22:01.12 | Semlar | they read as "can't" and "aren't" |
| 22:01.31 | Semlar | and however they're doing the apostrophe is actually breaking the rest of the word |
| 22:01.53 | relaxok | Neffi: (back to yesterday's issue) how does the frame also set variables like Frame.n = blah from lua? |
| 22:02.04 | relaxok | Neffi: in the context of having the pointer at key 0 |
| 22:02.11 | Semlar | although that doesn't explain aren't so maybe not |
| 22:03.08 | foxlit | the title is correct on per-product pages, anyhow, so this seems special. |
| 22:15.34 | foxlit | Cairenn: http://www.wowinterface.com/community.php#authornews references ownedcore. |
| 22:16.04 | Cairenn | ... |
| 22:17.20 | Cairenn | thanks for the heads up, it's poofed |
| 22:22.38 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: We've been working on theming in LXQt. after a recent interview i did we got a couple new graphics guys |
| 22:22.54 | jleclanche | one of them has been working on a plasma next theme and on a "flatk dark" theme which both look awesome |
| 22:23.01 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: https://mediacru.sh/auqnB11If8qT.png =) |
| 22:23.16 | Arrowmaster | nice |
| 22:24.28 | Gnarfoz | FALUKOOOOOOOOOORV |
| 22:26.01 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: the Onyx openbox theme goes really well with it. sec |
| 22:26.55 | TC-Work | jleclanche: Why is opensuse holding the FC version of lxqt? |
| 22:27.02 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: dark gmail and chromium theme: https://mediacru.sh/l2wJsDA1SK6k.png |
| 22:27.17 | jleclanche | TC-Work: opensuse is a red hat fork |
| 22:27.43 | TC-Work | Ah |
| 22:28.20 | Gnarfoz | uhhh what. |
| 22:28.29 | Gnarfoz | OpenSUSE is not a red hat fork |
| 22:28.36 | jleclanche | well sorry |
| 22:28.36 | airtonix | your face is a fork |
| 22:28.38 | jleclanche | opensuse is a red hat |
| 22:29.10 | jleclanche | actually hm, Im wrong |
| 22:29.12 | Gnarfoz | oO? |
| 22:29.38 | jleclanche | weird, im thinking of a different distro. either way, opensuse uses yum |
| 22:29.45 | Gnarfoz | they use zypper |
| 22:29.52 | Gnarfoz | you're thinking of "they use rpm" |
| 22:29.59 | jleclanche | er, yes |
| 22:30.07 | Gnarfoz | any more misconceptions about suse? :p |
| 22:30.16 | Gnarfoz | they're from uganda! |
| 22:30.38 | jleclanche | given that i meet at their nuremberg office every year, no, I dont think they're from uganda |
| 22:31.08 | Gnarfoz | you're there for your trial for crimes against humanity |
| 22:31.22 | Gnarfoz | should have read the "invitation" more clearly! :P |
| 22:31.28 | jleclanche | your face is there on trial for crimes against human decency |
| 22:31.51 | Gnarfoz | I'll have to swing by there then to get it back |
| 22:31.55 | Gnarfoz | always getting in trouble |
| 22:32.04 | Gnarfoz | my face is a pain in the arse! |
| 22:32.18 | airtonix | jleclanche: https://changearc.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/lighttable-helloswingworld.png |
| 22:32.28 | airtonix | how do i get those tabs on the left? |
| 22:32.37 | jleclanche | no idea never seen them |
| 22:33.00 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/r7vKuTlyWphv.png <- openbox theme in action |
| 22:33.05 | Gnarfoz | were you thinking of yellowdog? |
| 22:33.12 | jleclanche | maybe idk |
| 22:33.31 | Gnarfoz | pick one, then http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Redhat_family_tree_11-06.png |
| 22:33.35 | Arrowmaster | are you actually using openbox or just the theme in something else? |
| 22:33.35 | Gnarfoz | there's more than enough to go around! |
| 22:33.45 | Gnarfoz | (that chart is scary) |
| 22:34.01 | Arrowmaster | the debian one is worse |
| 22:34.10 | jleclanche | fedora isnt in there |
| 22:34.15 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: Im using openbox |
| 22:34.34 | Arrowmaster | ok so lxqt is still going to use openbox |
| 22:34.41 | jleclanche | lxqt is wm-agnostic. |
| 22:34.50 | jleclanche | i was using kwin until recently |
| 22:35.30 | Gnarfoz | jleclanche: wrong again! follow the middle red line from left until it becomes RHEL, follow the purple branch downward: fedora core & al |
| 22:35.50 | jleclanche | ah yes |
| 22:36.02 | Gnarfoz | someone save me, I'm chain-watching episodes of QI XL |
| 22:36.12 | jleclanche | ive been watching 6 feet under. its good |
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| 22:36.32 | jleclanche | spoiler: somebody dies |
| 22:37.04 | Breagha | Somebody always dies... |
| 22:37.05 | jleclanche | Gnarfoz: mandrake/mandriva is the one i was thinking of |
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| 22:41.40 | Gnarfoz | jleclanche: ah yes |
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| 22:55.34 | Arrowmaster | jleclanche: you said kde was making a lot of their apps more standalone now, do you know what version that will happen in? |
| 22:59.06 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: its a continuous effort as part of KDE Frameworks 5 |
| 22:59.09 | jleclanche | aka kf5 |
| 22:59.17 | Arrowmaster | ok |
| 22:59.19 | jleclanche | some of it is already available out there |
| 22:59.25 | jleclanche | on arch, most of kf5 is available in extra/ |
| 22:59.35 | jleclanche | which means you should get it pretty soon, maybe within the decade |
| 22:59.45 | jleclanche | (its funny because you're on debian) |
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| 23:05.11 | Breagha | Is there a way to get the yellow comments from items in your inventory? |
| 23:05.21 | Breagha | With a function, I mean... |
| 23:05.22 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 23:05.23 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 23:05.33 | Gnarfoz | well... yes |
| 23:05.39 | Gnarfoz | but not one dedicated to that purpose :P |
| 23:05.54 | Gnarfoz | enjoy your tooltip scraping! |
| 23:06.28 | Breagha | Ah... Not sure how that is done, but I'll try looking into it. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction :) |
| 23:07.09 | Neffi | It's done non-trivially in such a manner that you will pull your hair out in the process. |
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| 23:07.37 | Breagha | Well, I have a lot of hair, so... It could probably do with a bit of thinning ^^ |
| 23:07.47 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I was trying to make light of the bad/annoying time you'll have |
| 23:07.48 | Neffi | Quite a few addons do tooltip scraping, so you can get an idea of how it works, or even pull in some code and retool it to your purpose. But an exact example is eluding me right now |
| 23:08.15 | Breagha | Ah, okies :) |
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| 23:22.03 | TC-Work | jleclanche: Interesting, js refuses to see it at all. I must have to pass it in as json or something. |
| 23:22.19 | jleclanche | TC-Work: you're not rendering a js file are you... |
| 23:22.24 | jleclanche | cause you really shouldnt.. |
| 23:22.31 | TC-Work | No. |
| 23:22.39 | TC-Work | it's just data being passed |
| 23:23.30 | jleclanche | just read the tutorial, I cant really help you if you didnt |
| 23:24.12 | TC-Work | I have the data passing now. It's just a pure python issue I am running into atm. |
| 23:24.28 | VIad | http://wod.wowhead.com/item=112154 OP much? |
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| 23:25.00 | Neffi | haha no way thatll make it live |
| 23:25.24 | VIad | put that webbing talent when you dissengage and make it a party |
| 23:25.30 | nevcairiel | these special boni may only be active in pvp |
| 23:25.45 | VIad | most OP pvp ability though :p |
| 23:25.54 | VIad | spammmm |
| 23:32.16 | Stanzilla | VIad: those are ashran only items |
| 23:32.46 | VIad | but doesn't it still make things bad? :p |
| 23:33.10 | VIad | phew, at least Hunters can ONLY cheat in ashara, no everywhere else! |
| 23:33.17 | VIad | like it's not bad enough :p |
| 23:33.26 | VIad | flying asharan hunters going nuts |
| 23:33.32 | Semlar | :( |
| 23:36.37 | Semlar | their mobility is the only utility hunters offer |
| 23:38.54 | Dagmar | Still, Disengage with no cooldown? |
| 23:38.59 | Dagmar | That is *insane* |
| 23:39.30 | Dagmar | It's likely to be as fast as a mount if you really don't mind flipping your camera around |
| 23:39.41 | Dagmar | Also, unless it was changed it still zeros out falling velocity |
| 23:39.54 | Neffi | back that ass up |
| 23:40.07 | Dagmar | Back that ass up like you have infinite double jump |
| 23:40.25 | Dagmar | There are all KINDS of places one could get into using that |
| 23:41.34 | Dagmar | I agree with the top comment. heh |
| 23:41.47 | Dagmar | Who needs flying if you can airwalk |
| 23:42.30 | Dagmar | Imagine if you just had some form of rocketry to get you up in the air |
| 23:42.49 | Dagmar | Kind derpy for a superhero act, but still |
| 23:43.04 | Dagmar | Go straight up and then start bouncing away, in reverse |
| 23:43.43 | Dagmar | *fingersnap* |
| 23:44.29 | Dagmar | You could be... Powdered Toast Hunter! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_dyOxAfEzI |
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| 23:49.45 | VIad | blood dragon |
| 23:54.47 | Dagmar | Seriously, those boots should be able to summon cinnamon sprinkles three times a day |
| 23:55.06 | VIad | let's hope global cooldown still plays a role though ;p |
| 23:55.20 | Dagmar | Yeah because Disengage makes you go *up* a few feet |
| 23:55.55 | Dagmar | ...and I'm not entirely sure but with respect to some things, the game couldn't be bothered to detect you moving through the space in between the two points |
| 23:56.05 | Dagmar | Lava wall? LOL |
| 23:56.25 | Dagmar | At least that was the case when I was first doing that |
