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| 00:07.27 | kd3 | huh. my bnet auth code had four 7s in it. c'mon good luck |
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| 00:13.42 | Amarande | kd3: you will receive garishly ugly world epics for classes you don't play |
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| 00:23.47 | Esamynn|work | Amarande: and when was the last time you actually used a world epic anyways? |
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| 00:24.17 | Amarande | hm, good question |
| 00:24.35 | Amarande | heh the problem with world epics is that you're pretty much always better off putting them up for sale than you are using them |
| 00:26.08 | Esamynn|work | I don't think I've ever gotten one anyways |
| 00:26.12 | Esamynn|work | nor do I think I've ever used one |
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| 00:33.35 | Amarande | I think I've only had one drop in normal leveling that I can remember at least |
| 00:34.01 | Amarande | I've gotten a few others, but those were in hyper-farming expeditions, generally with specific rare drops in mind (engineering recipes, in particular, I was trying to be completist on my mage) |
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| 00:50.16 | Semlar | Esamynn: i've seen addons modify the chat bubbles |
| 00:51.51 | Semlar | like this one http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info19562-BubbleBobble.html#info |
| 00:55.53 | Jamash | I got a Hand of Edward the Odd during the Gates of AQ opening event and sold it for a zillion gold |
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| 00:58.51 | Jamash | I formed a pick-up raid to kill anubisath and won the roll, so I split half of the money with the other raid members |
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| 01:02.08 | Arrow|phone | Fuck fuck fuck |
| 01:02.16 | kd3 | you've got an hour |
| 01:02.24 | Arrow|phone | I'm still at work and can't get home in time |
| 01:03.30 | kd3 | assuming I get in, you can be my 4th |
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| 01:04.50 | Arrow|phone | I'm at a 12 hour work day right now |
| 01:06.10 | Arrow|phone | I guess I'll get my stuff and head home anyway, 1.5 hour drive though |
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| 01:38.33 | Razernok | :( |
| 01:39.31 | Razernok | I wish I could complete my addon |
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| 01:41.32 | Semlar | i wish you would stop saying that |
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| 01:44.17 | TC-Work | That's why I used ignore |
| 01:44.21 | TC-Work | 2nd time ever |
| 01:44.33 | Semlar | indeed |
| 01:45.01 | TC-Work | I didn't even have to read to see who you were talking about. |
| 01:45.06 | TC-Work | very sad |
| 01:45.48 | airtonix | i once completed an addon |
| 01:45.59 | airtonix | good times |
| 01:46.07 | TC-Work | I think Fisker took over airtonix's account. |
| 01:46.38 | Neffi | Or they have become one supreme biological entity, conjoined by the powers of sarcasm. The Fiskair |
| 01:47.42 | Razernok | I can't figure out the name of the frames I need to show() |
| 01:48.46 | TC-Work | Might as well call it as it is the iFiskair. |
| 01:49.04 | TC-Work | s/s t/s, t/ |
| 01:49.41 | airtonix | i am no mere consumerist brand name for the peasantry |
| 01:49.59 | Neffi | http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/05/scientific-computings-future-can-any-coding-language-top-a-1950s-behemoth/ |
| 01:50.10 | Arrowmaster` | OK I'm at a rest stop, should I even bother trying to buy tickets tonight if I'm on just my phone? |
| 01:50.29 | Neffi | I've been wondering why Fortran is still so ubiquitous, and why sci computing hasn't moved to a functional-like language with syntax and semantics that would be familiar to mathematicians |
| 01:51.01 | Esamynn | one word: performance |
| 01:51.17 | Shirik | you're all wrong |
| 01:51.34 | Shirik | it's because businesses don't like spending money on something that doesn't look like it is going to save them any |
| 01:51.58 | Shirik | software has this problem where it is very difficult to realize the cost of rearchitecting |
| 01:52.09 | Shirik | because the cost savings is measured in "work you didn't do" |
| 01:52.22 | Neffi | I've heard both of those arguments, and I think they're both right |
| 01:52.27 | Shirik | once we solve that problem, Fortran will finally start to die out |
| 01:53.00 | Neffi | From what I hear Fortran compilers produce faster code than anything else. |
| 01:53.13 | kd3 | (that's covered in the article...) |
| 01:53.24 | Shirik | http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 01:53.24 | Neffi | But it seems to me if speed is such a concern, a language designed on that premise would be competitive, and better |
| 01:53.27 | Shirik | would like to debate you |
| 01:54.09 | Shirik | I guess there are some where Fortran is winning |
| 01:54.15 | Shirik | not many |
| 01:54.24 | Neffi | I'm no expert in languages, compilers or Fortran. Just paraphrasing some articles and discussions I've read |
| 01:55.36 | Razernok | :( |
| 01:57.13 | Arrowmaster` | 3 minutes right? |
| 01:57.56 | |Jelly|_ | Yes |
| 01:58.29 | Arrow|phone | I'm going to do this, I'll try from my phone at a rest stop |
| 01:58.48 | Shirik | oh wow http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/07/living-organism-artificial-dna_n_5283095.html |
| 01:58.49 | kd3 | ya |
| 01:58.49 | kd3 | it's going to be delicious when eventbrite falls over under the load |
| 01:58.53 | |Jelly|_ | yup |
| 02:00.33 | |Jelly|_ | and website dead |
| 02:00.43 | Arrow|phone | My loading bar froze |
| 02:00.51 | kd3 | I'm in the waiting room |
| 02:00.55 | kd3 | wish it'd give me a number |
| 02:01.07 | Arrow|phone | Wtf no queue numbers? |
| 02:01.08 | |Jelly|_ | yup |
| 02:01.24 | Arrow|phone | Terrible |
| 02:01.41 | Arrow|phone | I'm on my damn phone I can't wait forever |
| 02:02.00 | Arrow|phone | I wanted an estimate of if I had a chance or not |
| 02:02.06 | Cairenn | Good luck on tickets all |
| 02:02.13 | |Jelly|_ | Thanks <3 |
| 02:03.05 | Razernok | :( |
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| 02:03.30 | |Jelly|_ | No queue number really makes me sad. |
| 02:03.41 | kd3 | checked in another browser and it already says "unavailable" on the main page |
| 02:03.50 | Arrow|phone | At least I don't have to get up for work tomorrow |
| 02:04.30 | Arrow|phone | On midnight shift instead tomorrow, and trying to get an interview somewhere else on Friday |
| 02:04.56 | |Jelly|_ | Computer 1 just got cut |
| 02:04.57 | Arrow|phone | Yes I'm only 2weeks in and interviewing elsewhere already |
| 02:04.57 | fewyn | tickets sold out |
| 02:04.58 | fewyn | already |
| 02:05.17 | Xinhuan | "Sorry, the tickets you are trying to order are not currently available." - 1 min ago |
| 02:05.19 | Xinhuan | wtf?? |
| 02:05.27 | Xinhuan | from "waiting room" |
| 02:05.30 | Arrow|phone | Still in line |
| 02:05.35 | |Jelly|_ | Same |
| 02:05.55 | Razernok | I wish I could complete my addon |
| 02:06.03 | Xinhuan | so either my connection got cut, or they fucked up |
| 02:06.23 | Xinhuan | well i am no longer in any queue, since that error popped up |
| 02:06.39 | kd3 | rejected |
| 02:06.44 | Xinhuan | Q_Q |
| 02:06.56 | |Jelly|_ | Still 'You're currently in line in the waiting room." |
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| 02:07.17 | Arrow|phone | I got the sold out page then went back in line but it could be from android browser messing up on window switch |
| 02:07.26 | Xinhuan | yeah, mine changed to "Sorry, the tickets you are trying to order are not currently available." within about 2 minutes from the waiting room |
| 02:07.31 | Xinhuan | i'm like wtf? |
| 02:07.32 | |Jelly|_ | Both computers and ipad- sold out |
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| 02:07.43 | Shirik | aaaand they're already on ebay |
| 02:07.45 | Shirik | $700 |
| 02:07.48 | Arrow|phone | Lol |
| 02:07.57 | Arrow|phone | Report |
| 02:08.09 | Arrow|phone | More tickets for saturday |
| 02:08.39 | Shirik | $1000 |
| 02:08.48 | Shirik | I should keep refreshing this view |
| 02:08.50 | Shirik | seems amusing |
| 02:09.02 | Xinhuan | so i refreshed the event page and got a "order now" button, with a dropdown quantity that has options for 0 and 1 |
| 02:09.09 | Arrow|phone | I'm still in waiting room, I bet it broke |
| 02:09.11 | Xinhuan | wtf is going on haha |
| 02:09.25 | Xinhuan | NOW it gives me 8 min to complete my |
| 02:09.27 | Xinhuan | order |
| 02:09.34 | kd3 | ! |
| 02:09.36 | Arrow|phone | Lol? |
| 02:09.38 | kd3 | wow |
| 02:09.55 | Xinhuan | General Admission $199.00 $4.00 1 $203.00 |
| 02:09.57 | Xinhuan | wtf?? |
| 02:10.02 | Xinhuan | wtf is wrong with their system |
| 02:10.02 | Shirik | on one side I feel like their system should be fairly robust given how many times they've done this |
| 02:10.03 | Razernok | :( |
| 02:10.13 | Shirik | on the other hand I think this is REALLY hard problem to solve |
| 02:10.17 | jleclanche | Cairenn: ping |
| 02:10.57 | Cairenn | jleclanche: pong |
| 02:10.58 | Xinhuan | try refreshing on new browsers |
| 02:11.02 | Xinhuan | regulsarly |
| 02:11.08 | Xinhuan | and if u see a ORDER NOW button |
| 02:11.14 | jleclanche | Cairenn: can you do something about Razernok? it's getting on everyone's nerves |
| 02:11.15 | Xinhuan | click it quickly after the quantity dropdown |
| 02:11.35 | Cairenn | oh for the love of god ... Razernok, seriously, just go away already |
| 02:12.25 | |Jelly|_ | in the waiting room ... again |
| 02:12.26 | |Jelly|_ | rofl |
| 02:12.49 | kd3 | I was in the waiting room for a half-second before getting booted |
| 02:12.51 | kd3 | wow |
| 02:13.27 | Xinhuan | Thanks for your order! Your registration is complete. |
| 02:13.33 | Arrow|phone | I refreshed and went back to waiting room |
| 02:13.56 | Xinhuan | ok i think 1-2 tickets are released every now and then, keep refreshing |
| 02:14.04 | Xinhuan | if you aren't in queue |
| 02:14.38 | Xinhuan | the weird thing is, i don't think there is ANY queue, if i could just refresh, and get in and checkout 1 ticket immediately -.- |
| 02:15.27 | kd3 | ah! I got in! yes! |
| 02:16.21 | |Jelly|_ | in waiting room on one; think that's a lost cause :( |
| 02:16.32 | kd3 | got it |
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| 02:16.36 | kd3 | hahahaha. 4 tickets ordered |
| 02:16.43 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+b razernok!*@*] by Cairenn |
| 02:16.56 | |Jelly|_ | Did you get sent to the waiting room at all? |
| 02:17.12 | Arrow|phone | kd3: one for me? |
| 02:17.16 | Xinhuan | the first time yes, when i tried to get 4 tickets |
| 02:17.18 | kd3 | kept refreshing and was able to get 4. no waiting room |
| 02:17.22 | kd3 | arrow, you've got 1 |
| 02:17.27 | kd3 | the other 2 are claimed as well most likely |
| 02:17.35 | Xinhuan | then i got the SORRY error after 2 min, then refreshed, got 1 ticket in the dropdown, and NO WAITING ROOM |
| 02:17.41 | |Jelly|_ | If they fall through, hit me up. |
| 02:17.42 | TC-Work | ~Cairenn++ |
| 02:17.48 | Arrow|phone | I'll still try for 4 on Saturday |
| 02:18.57 | Arrow|phone | Never hurts to have more to sell at cost to friends right |
| 02:19.04 | kd3 | ayup |
| 02:19.49 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 02:19.50 | Arrow|phone | OK I'll get back in my car now, I'm still almost an hour from home |
| 02:19.51 | |Jelly|_ | Unkle wants one, and I still need 2. Going to try again Saturday but I'm up for buying extras. :D |
| 02:20.07 | Cairenn | I don't know yet if I have one |
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| 02:20.40 | Arrow|phone | How? You always get press badges |
| 02:21.02 | Xinhuan | hah |
| 02:21.15 | Cairenn | We'll see |
| 02:22.02 | Cairenn | wanders back off to play some more black mesa |
| 02:22.09 | Shirik | woah |
| 02:22.14 | Shirik | someone's telling me there isn't a queue this year |
| 02:22.16 | Shirik | it's picked at random |
| 02:22.25 | Arrow|phone | Wtf? |
| 02:22.35 | |Jelly|_ | That would explain the load order of the three machines I was on. |
| 02:22.36 | Shirik | it was literally a facebook comment so I have no idea what the validity is |
| 02:22.57 | Arrow|phone | OK really need to get going, already started car |
| 02:23.01 | |Jelly|_ | lol 2 tickets for 1200 |
| 02:23.05 | |Jelly|_ | might as well get the benefit dinner |
| 02:23.17 | Xinhuan | seems that way to me Shirik |
| 02:23.28 | Shirik | top price is still $1000 for one |
| 02:23.37 | Shirik | cmon guys you totally could get $1500 if you don't get caught first |
| 02:23.40 | Stanzilla | Iiris: don't even try |
| 02:24.05 | |Jelly|_ | ...... |
| 02:24.10 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 02:24.13 | |Jelly|_ | so I got in and Eventbrite is unresponsive |
| 02:24.22 | Esamynn | the information article they posted said it was in order... but given how many ppl are hitting the servers, it might as well be random |
| 02:24.29 | Esamynn | no way for an external person to tell the difference |
| 02:24.32 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+b *!*@71-91-125-249.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] by Shirik |
| 02:24.34 | Xinhuan | so i'm just refreshing randomly now, and i just saw another order now, with a quantity drop down which is between 1-4 |
| 02:24.38 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Iiris!quassel@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik] by Shirik (Kindergarten is elsewhere!) |
| 02:24.45 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-o Shirik] by Shirik |
| 02:24.50 | Stanzilla | thanks Shirik |
| 02:24.55 | Xinhuan | tried to select 4, and it errored immediately saying not available |
| 02:25.10 | kd3 | keep trying. that happened to me a few times before I got lucky |
| 02:25.19 | Xinhuan | oh i got ticket already |
| 02:25.40 | |Jelly|_ | so if I have one now, I can still buy up to 3 later, right? |
| 02:25.42 | Xinhuan | just trying to see if i can get more for others |
| 02:25.55 | kd3 | I'd assume so jelly |
| 02:26.37 | Shirik | I think you all are forgetting the REAL reason to be staying up late tonight |
| 02:26.42 | Shirik | WILDSTAR OPEN BETA |
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| 02:29.14 | Jamash | what's wildstar? |
| 02:29.54 | |Jelly|_ | I don't what |
| 02:34.28 | Xinhuan | hah if u refresh the event page, they took down all ticketing info |
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| 02:35.16 | Amarande | heh. blizzcon? |
| 02:35.21 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 02:39.00 | Amarande | so they stopped holding people's spots during ordering like they used to, and now it's a FFA like Dragon Con rooms? |
| 02:40.06 | kd3 | emails away |
| 02:40.53 | Arrow|phone | I'm stopped on the highway |
| 02:41.06 | Arrow|phone | Damnn construction |
| 02:41.29 | Ketho | kd3: thanks. wondering what is on the 5.4.8 ptr :) |
| 02:41.36 | kd3 | np |
| 02:42.42 | Xinhuan | basically, i think what happened was multiple people queue for each other, and once one of them buy tickets, the other drops out of the queue. At the 8 minute mark, those tickets get released and ppl who arrive late could get to "Order Now" on those tickets, usually with no queue |
| 02:42.45 | Amarande | Drat, another level, another SW:TOR skill that gives me that "damn, I wish WoW had this" feeling |
| 02:44.11 | Amarande | Apparently there's a talent for Jedi Sages that makes your DoT's non-dispellable |
| 02:44.21 | Amarande | ... my aff lock sends her regards, "why don't *I* get that, dammit" |
| 02:44.29 | jleclanche | <Arrow|phone> Never hurts to have more to sell at cost to friends right |
| 02:44.39 | jleclanche | Arrow|phone: if i knew i could sell at cost to you I'd have done so :P |
| 02:44.41 | Arrow|phone | Oh WiFi found in traffic jam |
| 02:44.58 | Shirik | I just found a neat feature in chrome |
| 02:44.58 | kd3 | someone's mobile hotspot? |
| 02:45.12 | jleclanche | Shirik: is the wildstar beta started? I'd like to give it a try |
| 02:45.14 | Shirik | it predicts where you're going to end up while scrolling, and starts rendering before it's in view, so that it just appears |
| 02:45.19 | Shirik | jleclanche: starts tomorrow |
| 02:45.27 | Arrow|phone | Named driver |
| 02:45.28 | jleclanche | but it is tomorrow |
| 02:45.32 | jleclanche | friggin americans. |
| 02:45.39 | kd3 | not in the only timezones that matter |
| 02:45.42 | Shirik | starts when it's tomorrow in the real world |
| 02:46.00 | jleclanche | Shirik: what time does it start? |
| 02:46.04 | Amarande | you mean only "time zone" that matters |
| 02:46.07 | Shirik | probably midnight PDT |
| 02:46.11 | Amarande | because unless it's Turbine or Bethesda, it's Pacific :P |
| 02:46.23 | jleclanche | Shirik: okay so, what do I need to get started? just an account and the client? |
| 02:46.30 | Shirik | and a key |
| 02:46.34 | Shirik | the keys they just give out |
| 02:46.39 | Shirik | but I'm not sure if you can get it until it starts |
| 02:46.39 | jleclanche | give out hwere |
| 02:46.47 | jleclanche | s/hw/wh/ |
| 02:46.56 | Shirik | "From May 8th to May 18th, you will be able to visit our Open Beta page to request a key, and then hop into WildStar to experience content up to level 30. " |
| 02:47.03 | jleclanche | mmh ok |
| 02:47.06 | Amarande | hmmm... see about getting into wildstar beta or keep playing sw:tor |
| 02:47.13 | Amarande | it sounds interesting. so does FFXIV |
| 02:47.29 | Amarande | but I already play SW:TOR, WoW, and LOTRO, and even getting into FFXIV feels like it's going to spread my time too thin ... hrm |
| 02:47.55 | jleclanche | out of the four MMOs you just mentioned, at least four of them are pretty boring right now. |
| 02:48.14 | Amarande | well, WoW is at end of expansion ennui phase |
| 02:48.32 | Amarande | SW:TOR is as it's always been ... it's one of those games where the fun is concentrated in the leveling content |
| 02:48.33 | jleclanche | oh ffs who stole Adys |
| 02:48.48 | Amarande | basically the polar opposite to WoW, almost |
| 02:49.02 | kd3 | are your nicks not in one /ns group? |
| 02:49.31 | Amarande | FFXIV I've yet to play, most of the folks I know who play it seem to think it's pretty good though |
| 02:49.46 | Amarande | only real gripes I've heard regarding it were at launch when there was nowhere near enough server capacity and people couldn't log on reliably |
| 02:50.02 | jleclanche | kd3: on Wildstar, not on freenode |
| 02:50.08 | jleclanche | i secured Adys here long ago |
| 02:50.12 | kd3 | oh, meh |
| 02:50.20 | Amarande | LOTRO, again, is heavily leveling story oriented like TOR ... so yeah, kinda mirror opposite of WoW again |
| 02:50.45 | Amarande | it's why I always shake my head when TOR offers double-XP weekends |
| 02:50.48 | jleclanche | kd3: funny story, in the very early days of twitter i registered Adys just to make sure people wouldnt pick it up. i never used it and i have one of the really early accounts |
| 02:51.10 | Amarande | jleclanche: it's your other accounts you have to worry about in that case ... don't forget the @N affair |
| 02:51.33 | jleclanche | @n was stolen because it was short, not because it was old |
| 02:51.50 | jleclanche | nobody gives a shit about Adys except me and the asshole who keeps stealing my nick. |
| 02:52.55 | jleclanche | Shirik: alright lets see how well this works on Wine |
| 02:53.01 | Amarande | heh. there's actually been a few sites I've gone to where Amarande is not available |
| 02:54.13 | jleclanche | Shirik: its not downloadable without a key? =( |
| 02:54.26 | jleclanche | I was hoping to test the install and what not |
| 02:56.04 | Amarande | jleclanche: not the first MMO that would do that |
| 02:56.14 | Amarande | you need to register an account before Bioware will let you download SW:TOR, too |
| 02:56.40 | Amarande | as in the launcher literally doesn't start downloading the game proper till you log on |
| 02:57.55 | jleclanche | Amarande: I do have an account, i just cant pre download stuff or anything |
| 02:57.58 | Amarande | hm. wonder how wildstar will be like in terms of fight vs avoid setup :) |
| 02:57.59 | jleclanche | annoying |
| 02:58.26 | Amarande | like how in TOR or LOTRO you can fairly easily avoid most unwanted fights, while in WoW you are essentially forced to fight almost every mob along the way and back for each quest |
| 02:58.30 | |Jelly|_ | It's definitely a "There's a red telegraph on the ground that I should get out of." kinda game. |
| 02:58.49 | |Jelly|_ | oh, I'm dumb; didn't realize that's what you were talking about |
| 03:00.36 | Amarande | Jelly: in TOR and LOTRO, mobs tend to be placed somewhat more sparsely, so that if you are really intent on avoiding battle you can usually wend your way through with care without needing to fight |
| 03:01.13 | Amarande | (in fact, many a quest in both depends on that, because often you are expected to solo them, but there's elites in the vicinity that will rip you to bits if you tangle with them) |
| 03:01.43 | Amarande | in WoW, you try to do that, well ... passing exactly between two mobs is usually a way to make sure you've got to fight *both* of them instead of neither, LOL |
| 03:03.07 | Amarande | (plus aggroed mobs in the Galaxy and Middle-Earth tend to move at a much more sedate rate, while aggroed mobs in WoW run like A-Rod round the bases) |
| 03:04.04 | Amarande | also you get dismounted a lot more easily in WoW than the other games |
| 03:04.28 | Amarande | (LOTRO you have to either get hit with a crit or a stun or enough times that your mount's HP hits zero, while in TOR I'm actually not 100% sure what kind of hit it takes to dismount you, think it might be crits only) |
| 03:04.42 | Amarande | so, wondering what these new games are like in terms of that kind of paradigm :) |
| 03:09.11 | Amarande | also ... standard talent tree or wowish leveling-point system? |
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| 03:39.12 | Arrowmaster | i should have turned that off before i got in wifi range |
| 03:39.47 | Arrowmaster | or not been ircing from the car |
| 03:41.05 | Amarande | ahh, the fun of automatic phone stuff |
| 03:41.18 | Amarande | just like the security worries if you have friends or family who don't change their ssid :P |
| 03:42.58 | A-KO | Oh that's fucking beautiful. |
| 03:43.02 | A-KO | Wil Wheaton did an AMA |
| 03:43.08 | A-KO | the top question is asked by Felicia Day... |
| 03:43.09 | A-KO | lol |
| 03:44.22 | Mr_Rabies | game client update |
| 03:44.23 | Mr_Rabies | :O |
| 03:45.42 | Amarande | which game? there's been a ton of them discussed here tonight :) |
| 03:59.04 | Gethe | Guild Wars 2 of course! |
| 04:04.44 | Neffi | Gethe: how is that game? I was gonna get into it then lost interest. Maybe I'll actually pick it up tho, if it's good |
| 04:06.48 | Gethe | it's ok, but I haven't actually played it since launch. was joking a bit :P |
| 04:07.07 | Neffi | I see |
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| 04:32.59 | jleclanche | Shirik Arrowmaster: this is promising |
| 04:33.03 | jleclanche | https://mediacru.sh/RY0uHabmwgz1.png |
| 04:36.38 | Neffi | what am I looking at? |
| 04:36.57 | jleclanche | Neffi: the wildstar installer in wine |
| 04:37.10 | Semlar | the only option is decline |
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| 05:09.26 | airtonix | never submit, never surrender |
| 05:10.14 | Jamash | I think dogecar is a symptom of the singularity |
| 05:10.55 | Jamash | it's an indication of the gradual merging of internet and non-internet reality into a seamless whole |
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| 06:10.25 | airtonix | <insert suddenly loud and dramatically upbeat music> |
| 06:16.26 | zenzio | cue "What is love" |
| 06:40.23 | Thunder_Child | wee, tiny quake. |
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| 07:01.19 | zenzio | "As the ones who designed the product, and all of the front end, we feel we should have the right to not allow him to display our product on his website. |
| 07:01.23 | zenzio | Maybe we don't want the world to know that our expensive high-end product was built by one guy in India. Perhaps we are trying to place ourselves as a company who delivers the whole package, including the programming side." |
| 07:01.55 | zenzio | on a question about the right of someone to list their project in his portfolio. At least he's honest about the likely motivations |
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| 07:13.35 | jleclanche | I know technically I don't *have* to, but I am recompiling gcc in order to be able to play Wildstar on linux |
| 07:13.39 | jleclanche | I feel like a stereotype |
| 07:14.00 | nevcairiel | how does compiling gcc bring you wildstar |
| 07:14.17 | airtonix | reasons |
| 07:14.21 | jleclanche | theres a bug in gcc 4.9 which is fixed in current gcc git |
| 07:14.31 | nevcairiel | gcc 4.9 is a broken mess |
| 07:14.42 | nevcairiel | heck any gcc x.x.0 is |
| 07:14.42 | jleclanche | I mean |
| 07:14.50 | jleclanche | I could just grab gcc 4.8 |
| 07:14.52 | nevcairiel | if you use it, its your own fault |
| 07:14.54 | jleclanche | but I have problems, so |
| 07:14.56 | airtonix | if it gets wildstar running, does it matter |
| 07:15.16 | airtonix | perhaps do all this in an lxcontainer? |
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| 07:31.03 | karl_w_w | anybody heard renna as a first name before? |
| 07:32.08 | cogwheel | not since i was playing a fan translation of FFV on a SNES emulator last century… |
| 07:33.44 | karl_w_w | apparently it's from the latin for rebirth |
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| 07:54.43 | jleclanche | makes sense |
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| 08:43.36 | Gnarfoz | <jleclanche> oh ffs who stole Adys -- doesn't matter, it's just beta, but for live, name reserveration (1 character and 1 guild name each) starts on may 13th IIRC |
| 08:44.44 | jleclanche | Gnarfoz: oh thank you! |
| 08:45.09 | Workfoz | and the name reservations are global (even though the game won't be) |
| 08:45.18 | Workfoz | so no US Adyses to be confused with |
| 08:45.22 | jleclanche | <3 |
| 08:45.33 | jleclanche | also my plural is Adii |
| 08:45.41 | Semlar | THERE ARE MORE OF YOU? |
| 08:45.51 | jleclanche | I am the uncountable one |
| 08:46.03 | zenzio | you are legion |
| 08:49.35 | Workfoz | jleclanche: also, if you already have (a) character(s): https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/41094-open-beta-eu-realm-character-copies/ |
| 08:50.14 | Workfoz | they'll be available on the EU servers, starting at 16:00 (as usual) |
| 08:50.16 | jleclanche | I dont |
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| 09:38.41 | zenzio | man... my brother suggested I try listening to "Russian Circles"... and I've had them non-stop at work for the last three days |
| 09:43.08 | karl_w_w | is that so |
| 09:43.48 | Semlar | nope |
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| 09:45.05 | karl_w_w | on the subject of music I've had tainted love stuck in my head since yesterday when I heard it at mcdonalds of all places |
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| 10:07.04 | Semlar | now you know you've got to run away |
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| 10:32.45 | karl_w_w | s/to /to bom bom / |
| 10:46.45 | Semlar | get away |
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| 12:02.43 | airtonix | so is wildstar wow + minecraft ? |
| 12:18.26 | airtonix | oh... |
| 12:18.29 | airtonix | ncsoft game |
| 12:18.33 | airtonix | sigh |
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| 13:01.18 | airtonix | hey bluspacecow |
| 13:01.28 | bluspacecow | oh hi |
| 13:01.44 | airtonix | do you want to ever feel like to be more like even complete addons? |
| 13:03.17 | bluspacecow | there |
| 13:03.25 | bluspacecow | there’s such a thing as a complete addon ? |
| 13:03.44 | airtonix | there are completed addons |
| 13:04.02 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 13:04.08 | bluspacecow | lolololol |
| 13:04.25 | airtonix | :( |
| 13:07.17 | karl_w_w | mailwatch is a completed addon |
| 13:07.35 | karl_w_w | mailtrack i should say |
| 13:07.44 | karl_w_w | look at me not knowing my own addon's name |
| 13:07.57 | airtonix | how many actiobars does it have? |
| 13:08.12 | airtonix | all good addons have actiomosisbars |
| 13:08.28 | karl_w_w | artosis bars? none |
| 13:08.36 | airtonix | artisto |
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| 13:12.25 | jleclanche | airtonix: ncsoft is one of the few companies that is actually able to create a great MMO if they get their act together |
| 13:12.38 | airtonix | possibly |
| 13:12.44 | airtonix | and wildstar might be their first |
| 13:13.05 | jleclanche | it has potential, and from a business point of view its a fantastic time to be talked about |
| 13:13.09 | jleclanche | so they have the opportunity |
| 13:13.20 | airtonix | i just feel overly pessimistic since aion |
| 13:13.31 | airtonix | "customised user interfaces are cheating" |
| 13:13.54 | airtonix | "hello kitty themed actionbar, why are you hacking?" |
| 13:14.27 | airtonix | the community they bred was far and beyond the most ignorant about ui addons |
| 13:14.44 | Workfoz | "ncsoft" doesn't make wildstar |
| 13:14.45 | airtonix | "ui addons? no we don't want bots thanks!" |
| 13:14.46 | Workfoz | Carbine does |
| 13:15.10 | Workfoz | I do wonder what NCsoft contributes |
| 13:15.15 | Workfoz | besides $$$$$ |
| 13:15.31 | airtonix | lets hope it's not "lol grind all the things" |
| 13:15.46 | airtonix | one loaf of bread costs 1 million credits |
| 13:15.52 | airtonix | i wolf drops 1 credit |
| 13:16.01 | airtonix | fuck.that.shit. |
| 13:16.32 | Workfoz | no need to hope, the game's been running for a year now and I don't think such complaints have surfaced |
| 13:16.53 | Workfoz | (nor have I felt that way. it certainly feels similar to WoW in that regard) |
| 13:17.02 | bluspacecow | hmmmm |
| 13:17.04 | bluspacecow | hm |
| 13:17.05 | bluspacecow | hm |
| 13:17.13 | Workfoz | you can easily go broke trying to do tradeskills while leveling, though |
| 13:17.13 | airtonix | hnnngggg |
| 13:17.14 | bluspacecow | D3 , Hearthstone or HoS ? |
| 13:17.22 | zenzio | for anyone who's read the A Song of Ice and Fire series (Game of Thrones), and seen the last episode... http://i.imgur.com/opVih0Y.png |
| 13:17.44 | Workfoz | new abilities are not cheap, nor is the first mount, or a guild |
| 13:18.01 | airtonix | also housing looks... simplistic? |
| 13:18.09 | airtonix | bang sudddenly house? |
| 13:18.11 | Workfoz | compared to... what? |
| 13:18.21 | airtonix | landmark |
| 13:18.43 | Workfoz | bang, suddenly house, now customize 5 million things inside or on the rest of your land |
| 13:18.51 | Workfoz | I have no idea what that is |
| 13:18.58 | airtonix | but the front door is still in the same place |
| 13:19.01 | Workfoz | is that EQ's try to be Minecraft? |
| 13:19.43 | Workfoz | yes, because a MMO is not a 3d modeling tool, what do you expect... if they made the door movable, you'd complain there's not enough places it can go? :D |
| 13:20.10 | airtonix | exactlty, i am entitled to put it anywhere i want |
| 13:20.15 | airtonix | its my door |
| 13:23.35 | jleclanche | zenzio: haha |
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| 13:25.50 | jleclanche | zenzio: I'd like hbo to troll the GoT userbase with a supernatural crossover. grrm makes an appearance as the great prophet and claims the books will one day be known as the Lannisters Gospel |
| 13:26.01 | zenzio | lol, that would be awesome |
| 13:26.19 | jleclanche | (list of things I'd make happen if I had a few million bucks spare) |
| 13:37.30 | bluspacecow | currently sucking at Hearthstone |
| 13:38.50 | Workfoz | so the Hearthstone is a salt stone? |
| 13:41.49 | bluspacecow | om nom nm nom |
| 13:43.20 | airtonix | it person |
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| 14:47.38 | airtonix | http://www.illustris-project.org/explorer/ |
| 15:06.35 | Jamash | airtonix: wheee! |
| 15:06.59 | airtonix | quiet! |
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| 15:18.45 | g0urra | kd3: ping |
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| 15:21.37 | airtonix | you're not allowed to ping the gods... oh this isn't #minecraft |
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| 15:24.28 | Lopeppeppy | Words overheard at work, "Come on colleague, let's go break something." "Oh, we can crash a server or two, I'm sure." "Sudo in and start with the rm -r ." |
| 15:27.22 | Arrowmaster | Lopeppeppy: wouldnt do much without the -f |
| 15:27.37 | airtonix | might prevent it from rebooting |
| 15:27.46 | airtonix | i mean coming back up |
| 15:27.54 | Lopeppeppy | WEll, we hadn't sat down to do it yet, we were just chortling. When we sit at a computer to DO EEEEEET, we'll be more thorough. |
| 15:28.15 | airtonix | oh so not really overheard then |
| 15:28.19 | airtonix | but remembered |
| 15:28.41 | airtonix | this is a bit like those photos on reddit |
| 15:28.48 | Lopeppeppy | True, I did that. |
| 15:28.52 | airtonix | "picture of my flatmates toothbrush" |
| 15:28.59 | airtonix | > really OPs toothbrush |
| 15:29.37 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:33.51 | Workfoz | Arrowmaster: wouldn't even do much with the -f, most distro's rm's are compiled with --preserve-root enabled by default |
| 15:33.53 | Workfoz | also, Wildstar \o/ |
| 15:33.58 | Workfoz | sadly, I have to finish work first. |
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| 15:37.11 | g0urra | oh yeah the open beta starts today, doesn't it |
| 15:37.29 | Unkle | Station. |
| 15:37.49 | g0urra | I disagree |
| 15:39.38 | Dagmar | g0urra: OB for WoD? |
| 15:39.51 | g0urra | <Workfoz> also, Wildstar \o/ |
| 15:39.56 | airtonix | no one plays wow anymore Dagmar |
| 15:39.56 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 15:40.03 | g0urra | WoW is dead |
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| 15:40.36 | airtonix | i wouldn't say it's dead |
| 15:40.39 | g0urra | yes it is |
| 15:40.40 | airtonix | plenty of bots |
| 15:40.49 | g0urra | bots have no souls |
| 15:41.02 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 15:41.04 | Workfoz | hah, WoW has been dead since before it was released \o/ |
| 15:42.35 | Dagmar | Bleh. Looks like the NCSoft site is overloaded. Imagine that. |
| 15:43.09 | airtonix | it's part of the grind |
| 15:43.11 | g0urra | wow I wonder why |
| 15:43.22 | g0urra | WoW is the stillborn baby of MMORPGs |
| 15:43.29 | airtonix | click reload one million times, reward: page renders |
| 15:44.26 | airtonix | why is wildstar using a self signed ssl cert |
| 15:44.37 | airtonix | hah |
| 15:44.40 | Workfoz | it isn't? |
| 15:44.43 | Workfoz | are you seeing things |
| 15:44.45 | airtonix | it is? |
| 15:44.51 | Workfoz | Thawte for me |
| 15:44.57 | Workfoz | maybe you're being MITM'd :p |
| 15:45.01 | airtonix | https://wildstar-online.com/ |
| 15:45.18 | airtonix | oh it's just not a wildcard |
| 15:45.28 | airtonix | i really hate www. |
| 15:45.29 | Workfoz | I was going to question your reading capabilities |
| 15:45.40 | airtonix | most useless subdomain these days |
| 15:45.45 | Workfoz | the message clearly indicated a CN mismatch ^^ |
| 15:45.56 | airtonix | your face is a chinese mismatch |
| 15:46.04 | Workfoz | (and I was on https://forums.wildstar-online.com/ ) |
| 15:46.57 | airtonix | oh god... unrevved assets |
| 15:47.12 | Workfoz | clearly, this game is doomed |
| 15:47.26 | airtonix | also serif fonts |
| 15:47.33 | airtonix | this game won't survive |
| 15:47.46 | Workfoz | where? |
| 15:47.52 | Workfoz | I see only sans-serif |
| 15:48.17 | Workfoz | also, I'm confident that if anything, the website might not survive, if the situation is this dire. :D |
| 15:48.26 | Workfoz | NCsoft seems to be doing the website |
| 15:48.30 | Workfoz | not Carbine |
| 15:48.40 | Workfoz | i.e. blame the koreans |
| 15:48.49 | Workfoz | or where ever they're from |
| 15:49.19 | Dagmar | Wow thhey're really setting new standards for fail |
| 15:49.40 | Dagmar | I just reset my password, still can't login |
| 15:50.00 | Dagmar | Good thing I'm not trying to play GW2 right now |
| 15:50.02 | airtonix | also loading non ssl assets from an ssl source |
| 15:50.10 | airtonix | who are these amatuers |
| 15:50.17 | Dagmar | Koreans |
| 15:51.06 | pompy | http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA |
| 15:51.10 | airtonix | recaptcha won't work because they are loading it via http |
| 15:52.59 | Dagmar | It's been working here |
| 15:53.13 | Dagmar | ...but their whole account management system seems to be broken at the moment |
| 15:54.02 | Workfoz | I bet :D |
| 15:54.06 | Workfoz | it's perl. |
| 15:54.23 | Fisker | Imma sadface you Lopeppeppy |
