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| 00:22.18 | TC-Work | karl_w_w: Sounds like it is working correctly to me. |
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| 00:29.38 | Cairenn | was tacklehugged |
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| 00:51.05 | karl_w_w | should I buy final fantasy 6 on my phone? |
| 00:52.05 | TC-Work | Do you have that much free time? |
| 00:52.20 | Rstevoa | Yes. And if you can, root it and play it with a bluetooth controller |
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| 01:25.48 | karl_w_w | I have that much downtime TC-Work |
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| 02:36.30 | pompy | http://blog.turbotax.intuit.com/2014/04/09/turbotax-is-secured-against-the-heartbleed-internet-vulnerability/ good to know since I just filed my taxes with them. |
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| 02:51.18 | Stanzilla | http://steamdb.info/app/213670/#section_history |
| 02:51.25 | Stanzilla | steam still did not reset all partner logins |
| 02:51.29 | Stanzilla | people keep renaming game repos |
| 02:59.14 | Stanzilla | https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=battle.net |
| 02:59.18 | Stanzilla | only TLS 1.0 :( |
| 02:59.19 | Stanzilla | me sad |
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| 03:51.34 | Arrowmaster | i shouldnt take a sip of scotch straight from the bottle, forgot how strong that one was |
| 03:52.42 | Neffi | did you spontaneously grow a beard? |
| 03:53.05 | Arrowmaster | no i already have a big one |
| 03:53.23 | Thunder_Child | You spit back into it? |
| 03:53.31 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 03:53.37 | Neffi | drink more. make it bigger |
| 03:54.06 | Arrowmaster | i bought pink scotch a few weeks ago, still havent opened it since ive already got an open bottle |
| 03:54.48 | Neffi | What's pink scotch? |
| 03:54.58 | Thunder_Child | scotch thats pink..... |
| 03:55.08 | Neffi | that doesnt sound right |
| 03:55.27 | Arrowmaster | http://www.masterofmalt.com/whiskies/laphroaig/laphroaig-feis-ile-2013-cairdeas-port-wood-edition-whisky/ |
| 03:55.48 | Arrowmaster | i got two bottles for $155 |
| 03:55.54 | Arrowmaster | total, not each |
| 03:56.03 | Neffi | looks fancy |
| 03:56.27 | Neffi | I stick to Johnnie Walker or Jack |
| 03:56.32 | Arrowmaster | its a one year only thing |
| 03:56.36 | kd3 | huzzah, my first set item in d3 |
| 03:57.13 | Arrowmaster | first set item or first set completed? |
| 03:57.18 | kd3 | item |
| 03:57.30 | Arrowmaster | wow i got a bunch of junk rings from one set |
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| 04:14.10 | Wobin | finding set items is so frustrating =P |
| 04:14.18 | Wobin | especially if your groupmate finds another of the set =P |
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| 05:13.10 | monkeytypes | hai guys how to chat box |
| 05:13.13 | monkeytypes | typetype |
| 05:13.15 | monkeytypes | tits |
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| 05:17.11 | kd3 | well, it's spelled right in the armory, but it's wrong in the url and in-game http://us.battle.net/d3/en/artisan/blacksmith/recipe/borns-priviledge |
| 05:17.39 | Shirik | well that was a little special |
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| 05:27.40 | Fisker | lol kd3 |
| 05:28.27 | kd3 | hah, just got my first "Kill the Dataminer" bounty |
| 05:29.14 | Fisker | :? |
| 05:29.30 | karl_w_w | so how *do* you type tits? |
| 05:30.06 | Fisker | t i t s |
| 05:34.37 | kd3 | grr. was a minute away from clearing the last bounty. damn you, disconnects |
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| 06:39.01 | Shirik | awkward moment of the day |
| 06:39.18 | Shirik | I found a bug in the visual studio compiler that can cause security vulnerabilities |
| 06:39.37 | Shirik | miscompilation results in a possible buffer overflow |
| 06:50.36 | Neffi | that sounds bad shirik. why are you breaking the world? |
| 06:51.09 | Shirik | fortunately it's a rare case, and even if it's in released software I think it would be hard to exploit |
| 06:51.20 | Shirik | but I'll let microsoft figure that one out :P |
| 06:52.49 | Shirik | also, Neffi, some people just want to watch the world burn |
| 06:53.14 | Neffi | then reroll fire mage! |
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| 07:04.43 | airtonix_ | Shirik: jokes on you, it's a new nsa backdoor |
| 07:14.05 | Arrowmaster | JPL, where they use rockets to test parachutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h1NtQJ59kM |
| 07:16.24 | Shirik | omfg |
| 07:16.29 | Shirik | I finally got Sibelius and Live to actually work together |
| 07:16.36 | Shirik | now I can die happy |
| 07:17.01 | Shirik | also, Arrowmaster, the JPL is insane |
| 07:17.26 | Arrowmaster | isnt that their purpose? to do insane stuff? |
| 07:17.42 | Shirik | also, literally everything can be solved with rockets |
| 07:17.49 | Arrowmaster | did you watch the video? |
| 07:17.58 | Shirik | I'm watching it |
| 07:18.19 | Arrowmaster | oh the new parachutes are too big for our windtunnels, lets tie them to a rocketsleed |
| 07:19.37 | Shirik | so awesome |
| 07:21.48 | airtonix_ | you can't solve erectile disfunction with rockets |
| 07:23.01 | Shirik | oh yes you can |
| 07:23.11 | airtonix_ | please explain |
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| 07:23.25 | Shirik | rockets could stretch out the penis, making it functionally erect |
| 07:23.27 | Arrowmaster | rockets give everybody an erection |
| 07:23.45 | Shirik | little mini rockets |
| 07:24.15 | airtonix_ | i am a shining speciman of enthusiastic male virilaty. |
| 07:24.22 | airtonix_ | i need no rockets |
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| 07:40.43 | ccox | Cairenn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_78mkyJCFzw |
| 07:42.22 | Shirik | ha |
| 07:42.40 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 07:53.12 | bluspacecow | *meerkat stare* |
| 07:55.34 | bluspacecow | *meerkat head bob* |
| 07:55.40 | bluspacecow | *notices Cairenn* |
| 07:55.45 | bluspacecow | *meerkat stare* |
| 07:55.48 | Cairenn | lol |
| 07:57.11 | Sintacks | can't think of the name of this addon i used to have, that would let you delete an item by pressing a setable keybind when you picked it up, and if it was blue or higher, it required pressing the button twice |
| 07:57.33 | bluspacecow | *meerkat stare Sintacks* |
| 07:59.23 | Fisker | hey Cairenn |
| 07:59.24 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 07:59.26 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 07:59.32 | Cairenn | hi hi |
| 07:59.40 | Sintacks | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout | 4,861 tributes to Monty Python |
| 07:59.51 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 07:59.53 | bluspacecow | *meerkat stare Fisker* |
| 08:00.01 | bluspacecow | zero fucks given in this one |
| 08:08.29 | airtonix_ | actually meerkats give many fucks |
| 08:11.00 | airtonix_ | that's why there's so many of them |
| 08:14.16 | bluspacecow | fisker is the one zero fucks are given from |
| 08:30.49 | karl_w_w | bluspacecow, http://comparethemeerkat.com.au/ |
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| 08:59.42 | airtonix | i am preparing all the installs karl_w_w |
| 09:00.01 | airtonix | soon you will |
| 09:03.12 | karl_w_w | ok |
| 09:06.21 | bluspacecow | INSTALL ALL THE THINGS |
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| 09:10.17 | airtonix | do you agree to the terms? |
| 09:13.00 | bluspacecow | the installer did not call me a sexy beast on opening |
| 09:13.02 | bluspacecow | so no |
| 09:14.55 | airtonix | it's ok we're installing anyway. because we know that's what you really wanted |
| 09:15.01 | airtonix | we have your back user |
| 09:15.06 | airtonix | we got this |
| 09:15.23 | airtonix | by the way, we installed some extra things for your browser |
| 09:15.54 | airtonix | just call tech support on 555-6555 for a walk through |
| 09:20.56 | airtonix | http://i.imgur.com/mX8fEys.jpg |
| 09:21.10 | airtonix | new david lynch movie! |
| 09:22.24 | bluspacecow | airtonix |
| 09:22.33 | bluspacecow | what do I want for dinners tonights ? |
| 09:23.14 | karl_w_w | all the things? |
| 09:23.27 | airtonix | some internet explorer |
| 09:23.28 | bluspacecow | steak ? |
| 09:25.29 | karl_w_w | ew |
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| 10:23.28 | jleclanche | sigh, gandi |
| 10:23.43 | jleclanche | security question choice: "In what year was your gandi account created" |
| 10:24.05 | nevcairiel | that sounds very secure |
| 10:24.19 | nevcairiel | someone should outlaw security questions |
| 10:25.16 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: there's also "what year were you born in" in there |
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| 11:37.12 | zenzio | jleclanche: I like when sites don't seem to support UTF. "What was your primary school?" "Vardåsen" "Contains invalid characters" |
| 11:37.16 | zenzio | I'm looking at you SOE |
| 11:38.52 | jleclanche | its not necessarily caused by the site not supporting utf8 |
| 11:38.53 | jleclanche | more likely to be regex without unicode support |
| 11:48.22 | zenzio | jleclanche: exactly where the problem lies doesn't matter (to me), just the fact that for whatever reason some questions I cannot use :-p |
| 11:48.36 | jleclanche | yeah stupid |
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| 12:17.15 | zenzio | "PHP Warning: Missing argument 11 for [...]" - always promising when a function has 11 parameters |
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| 13:11.42 | zenzio | I find this whole heartbleed thing quite interesting |
| 13:13.58 | haste | I'd rather call it slightly terrifying |
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| 13:14.32 | zenzio | that too, but quite interesting; or fascinating |
| 13:16.23 | zenzio | Norid sent an email today telling the Norwegian registrars that they will have to change all their passwords for their services, or their accounts may be closed |
| 13:16.59 | haste | not too surprising |
| 13:17.24 | zenzio | nup. I'm just happy to see people taking it seriously |
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| 14:18.34 | Dagmar | Once again, Heartbleed shows us the difference between admins who know what they're doing, and "admins" who are merely taking up space. |
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| 14:39.22 | |Jelly| | Mad? |
| 14:39.25 | |Jelly| | god damnit |
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| 15:24.37 | Shirik | Dagmar: I have been amazed that this is as big of a deal as everyone's making it out to be |
| 15:24.50 | Shirik | when I found out about it, I logged into my server, spent 5 minutes updating it, and then tested to make sure it was secure |
| 15:25.04 | Shirik | 2 days later we still have people freaking out |
| 15:29.19 | Shirik | omg brilliant http://lifehacker.com/puzzle-alarm-clock-wakes-you-up-with-puzzles-flashing-1561241771?utm_campaign=socialflow_lifehacker_facebook&utm_source=lifehacker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow |
| 15:34.43 | TC-Work | I was listening to the radio this morning and they mentioned it....and said that all of the internet is at risk. I got so mad. |
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| 15:55.24 | jleclanche | ahahahah |
| 15:55.25 | jleclanche | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7566069 |
| 15:55.34 | jleclanche | "I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand, I absolutely agree with most of the opposition to Condi Rice wrt the illegal war, warrantless wiretaps, torture, etc. On the other hand, I threw a hissy fit over the opposition to Eich based on his beliefs. I'm not sure how I can oppose Rice while standing up for Eich without inconsistency." |
| 15:55.42 | jleclanche | oh thank god this is happening. Where is my popcorn |
| 16:22.12 | Dagmar | ehehehehe |
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| 16:39.23 | batrick | Shirik: Dagmar: easy to say when you don't administer a /16 full of machines of wildly different OS flavors |
| 16:40.27 | batrick | the real embarassment is that people still use OpenSSL despite it being common knowledge that it's a huge POS |
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| 16:46.28 | pompy | http://wtnh.com/2014/03/27/turbotax-employee-steals-ct-womans-money-identity/ :o |
| 16:50.52 | Shirik | batrick: but FREE |
| 16:51.23 | Shirik | though I actually had made a comment to someone not too long ago |
| 16:51.42 | Shirik | the fix for the heartbleed vulnerability is shitty code |
| 16:51.49 | Shirik | like it actually makes me angry |
| 16:51.55 | Shirik | I agree it's right, but it's terrible |
| 16:52.06 | batrick | what's "right" |
| 16:52.08 | batrick | the patch? |
| 16:52.19 | Shirik | yes |
| 16:52.22 | batrick | who cares |
| 16:52.23 | Shirik | my favorite part is this line: if (1 + 2 + 16 > s->s3->rrec.length) return 0; /* silently discard */ |
| 16:52.41 | Shirik | where someone simultaneously had the thought "I should write 1+2+16 instead of 19" and "I don't need to use named constants" |
| 16:52.58 | batrick | openssl is crap, whole thing needs thrown out |
| 16:54.05 | batrick | someone did me the favor of summing up my thoughts on openssl: https://www.peereboom.us/assl/assl/html/openssl.html |
| 16:54.10 | batrick | i share it every chance i get now |
| 16:58.22 | Dagmar | Good luck finding high-level cryptographers who are also kickass C programmers. |
| 16:58.45 | Dagmar | The main problem is that these are two disparate bodies of knowledge with very little overlap in most circumstances. |
| 16:58.54 | alestane | Shirik, reminds me of a piece of code I ran into in another Lua-based platform, roughly: [[ for name, item in pairs(object) do if name == 'clean' and type(item) == 'function' then item(object) end end ]] |
| 16:58.57 | Dagmar | Both require a high level of knowledge and skill to be effective. |
| 17:00.10 | Shirik | batrick: that's awesome |
| 17:00.36 | batrick | you don't know self-loathing until you try to use openssl in a project |
| 17:00.44 | Dagmar | hehehe |
| 17:01.07 | Dagmar | THis is one of the few cases were "EXTREME" programming would be helpful |
| 17:01.18 | Dagmar | Teams of two, one crypographer, one C maven. |
| 17:01.19 | batrick | for one such project, i said fuck it and used popen on openssl CLI |
| 17:01.43 | Dagmar | Between the two of them they'd stand a pretty good chance. |
| 17:01.54 | Dagmar | As it stands you're going to get either iffy code, or iffy crypto. |
| 17:02.12 | Dagmar | ...or if not "iffy" at least nowhere near "nearly perfect" |
| 17:02.40 | Shirik | we usually say security through obscurity is a bad thing |
| 17:02.56 | Shirik | but having obscurity in addition to security is a good thing |
| 17:03.02 | Shirik | so obscure the security code :D |
| 17:03.06 | Shirik | that's obviously why they did this |
| 17:03.16 | Dagmar | Hey on the flipside it at least takes sommeone who's a badass in both disciplines to really get in there and ferret out issues |
| 17:03.16 | Shirik | they're actually next-level programmers |
| 17:03.23 | Shirik | they're so good that it's unreadable |
| 17:03.36 | batrick | i would say insane |
| 17:03.54 | batrick | only someone devoid of mental fortitude could navigate the morass that is openssl |
| 17:04.23 | fewyn | code is supposed to be readable? |
| 17:04.40 | batrick | i heard they wrap their assembly code in perl |
| 17:04.46 | batrick | that just is too funny to me |
| 17:05.38 | batrick | "just in case a gray beard assembly programmer still lives, we'll wrap it all in perl to ensure unreadability" |
| 17:08.04 | alestane | Communication fail: http://clientsfromhell.net/post/68379356604/client-i-need-this-by-thursday-me-shouldnt-be |
| 17:25.00 | Dagmar | Just write it in obj-C with inline perl. |
| 17:25.02 | Dagmar | Much simpller. |
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| 18:00.34 | Krevan | Hey, Anyone know of a good up to date or at least working group quest tracker? I am looking to level with a friend but want something to track XP and Quests. |
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| 19:27.27 | Krevan | Ugh. |
| 19:28.43 | Krevan | It's quiet in here today. |
| 19:28.54 | TC-Work | Happens |
| 19:29.11 | Krevan | Indeed. |
| 19:30.25 | Kalroth | shhh, i'm stalking Fisker |
| 19:30.35 | Krevan | Lol. |
| 19:30.51 | Fisker | Nope |
| 19:31.02 | Kalroth | http://www.zgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/hunting-wabbits.jpg |
| 19:31.38 | Krevan | I'm trying to figure out how to morph LevelBuddy to my needs and add some other stuff. |
| 19:32.26 | Gethe_ | how do i set up a weighted probability? I want to make it more likly to get a red tile based on how many blue tiles are on the borard (or inverse) http://i.imgur.com/xKUIcZl.png?1 |
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| 19:34.31 | Dashkal | Gethe: In general? Roll a bigger die, and partition some number of outcomes to each actual outcome in the ratio you want. |
| 19:35.18 | Dashkal | So if you want a 60/40 split between two possibilities, roll a d10, but have 1-4 be the 40% and 5-10 be the 60% |
| 19:37.04 | Gethe | well ide like it to scale so that if the ratio between red and blue is at a certain threshold it will favor the other |
| 19:37.27 | Gethe | see http://i.imgur.com/xKUIcZl.png?1 |
| 19:37.53 | Gethe | need more red to match with the blue |
| 19:44.03 | Dashkal | You can always reallocate the results based on current state. |
| 19:44.41 | Dashkal | Another metaphor is to assign raffle tickets to each outcome. Allocate them based on current state, then draw a ticket. Winner gets to be the next tile. |
| 19:45.07 | Dashkal | (and by allocate, I mean pick a total and split value, then roll a random number in that range) |
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| 20:03.31 | znf | nevcairiel, and others - with this heartbleed thingie, wouldn't it have been possible to inject some shellcode and spawn a remote shell to the effected hosts? |
| 20:14.32 | Arrowmaster | i thought it was just a way to get a memory dump |
| 20:14.46 | Arrowmaster | not a remote execution exploit |
| 20:16.34 | Krevan | Yeah. Thats the way I understood it as well. |
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| 20:53.16 | tinystomper | g'afternoon all |
| 20:54.12 | Primer | hrmm, bunch of realms offline |
| 20:54.38 | tinystomper | anyone know of an api call that will return the #bosses and #bosses-defeated while in an instance? |
| 20:55.31 | tinystomper | it'd be nice to get it for all difficulties (LFR, flex, N and H) |
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| 21:04.45 | Ermad | tinystomper: GetSavedInstanceEncounterInfo |
| 21:04.52 | Ermad | doesn't work for LFR/flex tho |
| 21:05.34 | Ermad | GetSavedInstanceInfo rather, GetSavedInstanceEncounterInfo is for a specific boss |
| 21:05.56 | tinystomper | no way to get it for flex or LFR? |
| 21:07.01 | Ermad | not that I know off |
| 21:07.15 | tinystomper | hmmm... was trying to use GetSavedInstanceInfo |
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| 21:14.30 | nevcairiel | znf: like Arrowmaster said, its a read-only thing |
| 21:14.58 | znf | Ah, I see :) |
| 21:16.07 | Krevan | Gotta say, Heartbleed is a pretty badass name for that though. |
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| 22:01.34 | Mr_Rabies | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/13742212/heartbleed-account-security-notice-4-10-2014 tldr before you're worried: battle.net wasn't vulnerable, just a warning about shared passwords |
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| 22:32.07 | Stanzilla | jleclanche: http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=git/chromium.git;a=commitdiff;h=f0276bb9b9889c57c7ad49a9d0705f947c257394 |
| 22:32.10 | Stanzilla | does that make you happy? |
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| 23:21.49 | kd3 | holy crap, the live-6.0 ui diff is 53k lines |
| 23:22.03 | Gethe | wat |
| 23:22.11 | Gethe | wherd you get a ui dif |
| 23:22.18 | kd3 | I'm about to email it out |
| 23:22.29 | kd3 | (emails away) |
| 23:22.57 | Gethe | do you have the texture too? |
| 23:23.41 | kd3 | I don't, but I'm sure it's out there somewhere. anyway, I've gotta step away for dinner. if you want a copy of the email (and to get on the list for future emails), /msg me your address |
| 23:32.03 | MysticalOS | hmm, timer functions in base UI |
| 23:32.09 | MysticalOS | i wonder what they look like |
| 23:32.41 | MysticalOS | er wait no, it's a scheduler |
| 23:33.08 | MysticalOS | C_timer is a built in scheduler. hmm |
| 23:37.06 | tinystomper | any time frame for 6.0? |
| 23:38.09 | Stanzilla | this year |
| 23:39.00 | tinystomper | was hoping for a bit more specific ;) |
| 23:39.16 | tinystomper | like, aug? sept? nov? |
| 23:39.25 | TC-Work | Soon (tm) |
| 23:39.30 | tinystomper | ^ |
| 23:42.17 | tinystomper | anyone seen blizz's group finder? |
| 23:43.40 | MysticalOS | might get some ideas in the UI diff |
| 23:43.42 | MysticalOS | i haven't gotten that far |
| 23:44.39 | Gethe | it replaces the flex queue in the pve frame |
| 23:44.43 | MysticalOS | i am fascinated with C_Timer. to be able to eliminate so many mods redundant schedulers and acetimer, if it's any good |
| 23:44.49 | Gethe | but nothing is there at the moment |
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