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| 00:38.59 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://pastebin.com || 5.4.x ToC: 50400 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || This channel is logged, via purl || UI changes to battle.net chat in 5.4.7: http://bit.ly/1biaLRQ || Happy Birthday Maldivia! |
| 00:40.11 | Sintacks | i never found that bit of code to fix server names with spaces and shit |
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| 01:04.46 | Arrowmaster | im getting sick of this shit, im about to open another irc client just because this one keeps segfaulting gtk when i try to receive a file |
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| 01:07.24 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: quassel |
| 01:07.49 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 01:07.56 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: Quassel |
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| 01:11.47 | Arrowmaster | if i try it, should i try the monolithic client for now or use the core/client even if its all on the same pc |
| 01:16.10 | TC-Work | I just run quassel |
| 01:16.35 | TC-Work | I should set up the core on my linux server but I am Le Lazy |
| 01:17.45 | Neffi | If it's on the same PC, just go with the monolith. |
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| 01:18.59 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: you can just use the monolithic client to try it out |
| 01:19.12 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: but i recommend the core+client model if you have a few mins to set it up |
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| 01:27.27 | plaw | btw, gusy... anyone here with a valve partner login, take heed http://steamcommunity.com/app/202970 |
| 01:27.34 | plaw | 'Valve please reset partner logins because heartbleed' |
| 01:28.01 | plaw | on the CoD: BO II page |
| 01:30.13 | plaw | don't think I'm breaking rules posting that, no method of sploit mentioned on the page. posting as a comm service. |
| 01:31.20 | Neffi | Nope, definitely broke a rule. Throw him in the brig. |
| 01:32.24 | plaw | \o/ |
| 01:42.44 | TC-Work | The brig is under construction, it got broken when we threw the Canadian in there. |
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| 01:56.07 | fewyn | a canadian in a brig? are we sure it's a real canadian? |
| 01:59.27 | TC-Work | Yes, it broke because the Canadian kept apologising. |
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| 02:15.36 | Neffi | TC-Work: Did the Canadian apologize for breaking it? |
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| 02:52.41 | kd3 | oh, gah, that's a wrinkle I didn't think of earlier wrt hearthbleed... consumer routers with remote management |
| 02:52.51 | kd3 | s/hearth/heart/ |
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| 03:24.31 | aretecode | What books do you recommend reading about UI or anything else? |
| 03:25.29 | kd3 | ~wowprogramming |
| 03:25.29 | purl | it has been said that wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire (jnwhiteh) and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 03:25.50 | kd3 | also the ui resourecs on the wiki - http://wowpedia.org/Portal:Interface_customization |
| 03:32.04 | aretecode | Thank you! I do mean physicals I am going to bulk order books on Amazon & speed read them. |
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| 03:34.06 | Neffi | The book mentioned there is the only physical book I know of on WoW UI coding |
| 03:34.42 | Neffi | And it was written for 3.2 apparently |
| 03:34.52 | kd3 | which is still mostly accurate |
| 03:36.32 | Arrowmaster | theres at least 3 books |
| 03:37.03 | Arrowmaster | two volumes of the wow programming book and another book that i think was said to be absolute trash |
| 03:37.25 | Arrowmaster | i cant really remember though so i hope im not wrong and offending somebody |
| 03:40.31 | Arrowmaster | ok i found 4 total books, 3 of them by jnwhiteh and the 4th by the DBM author |
| 03:43.47 | Arrowmaster | wonder how much james makes per sale of that first book, its going for 95cents new on amazon |
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| 04:45.46 | jnwhiteh | Arrowmaster: not much more than 95 cents, if that |
| 04:45.58 | jnwhiteh | although if you mean hwow, much less |
| 04:47.16 | jnwhiteh | there's "Hacking World of Warcraft", which was written for people who want to *use* addons, then the two World of Warcraft Programming editions (which are still accurate/useful), and the last one written by the DBM author which takes a different approach but is still useful if you want to learn more complicated Lua things through Wow addons. |
| 04:50.35 | jnwhiteh | but i made enough off the first edition of WoW programming to quit my job 3 months early before moving to the U.K. |
| 04:50.39 | jnwhiteh | and that was about it =) |
| 04:51.07 | jnwhiteh | (during which time I worked full time on the book) |
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| 05:23.46 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 05:23.59 | Fisker | heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey |
| 05:35.33 | jnwhiteh | hi |
| 05:54.05 | Neffi | "Stopping support for xp isn't a big deal. It is the most patched bulletproof os that MS has made." |
| 05:54.17 | mikma | orly |
| 05:54.26 | Neffi | boy it's a lucrative time to be a black hat |
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| 07:16.11 | bluspacecow | lol Rygarius |
| 07:16.23 | bluspacecow | https://twitter.com/Rygarius/status/453651610929885184 |
| 07:20.13 | Neffi | I dont think I get it |
| 07:20.31 | bluspacecow | silly rygarius |
| 07:40.49 | relaxok | that's quite an ugly background |
| 07:49.26 | karl_w_w | http://delimiter.com.au/2014/04/09/australia-sets-new-game-thrones-piracy-record/ *fistpump* |
| 07:50.38 | Neffi | hands karl_w_w an award. |
| 07:50.45 | Neffi | Congratulations. I knew you could do it |
| 07:51.16 | karl_w_w | the training was tough but it was all worth it in the end |
| 07:52.21 | karl_w_w | fine little award |
| 07:52.28 | karl_w_w | maybe I'll pick my teeth with it |
| 07:52.52 | bluspacecow | *applys toothpaste to it* |
| 07:53.12 | Neffi | poor Lommy |
| 07:54.54 | karl_w_w | what the fuck's a lommy? |
| 07:59.41 | bluspacecow | Lommy is what Lommy was |
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| 08:10.44 | karl_w_w | why is the US run by catholicism when it's 51% protestant? |
| 08:12.42 | Neffi | both of those things are news to me, karl_w_w |
| 08:43.10 | Gnarfoz | jleclanche: what was that heartbleed cli scanner you used again? |
| 08:43.24 | jleclanche | Gnarfoz: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/heartbleed-git/ |
| 08:43.47 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: this is what i've been recommended; https://github.com/noxxi/p5-scripts/blob/master/check-ssl-heartbleed.pl |
| 08:43.55 | nevcairiel | can even do starttls checks |
| 08:44.52 | Gnarfoz | yeah I was just looking at https://gist.githubusercontent.com/takeshixx/10107280/raw/8052d8479ad0c6150464748d639b0f5e877e8c37/hb-test.py |
| 08:44.56 | Gnarfoz | which also does startls |
| 08:45.14 | Gnarfoz | I think I've got all our servers already anyway, I'm just going to check our whole public IP space to make sure :D |
| 08:46.06 | jleclanche | bombermine.com still hasnt fixed their shit |
| 08:46.06 | jleclanche | grr |
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| 09:16.49 | jleclanche | Hearthstone has really classed up their act |
| 09:16.52 | jleclanche | http://i.imgur.com/HT1uXUj.jpg |
| 09:16.56 | jleclanche | you have to make reservations now |
| 09:17.03 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:17.17 | nevcairiel | its really showing that time |
| 09:17.23 | jleclanche | i suppose |
| 09:17.34 | nevcairiel | or is that just a fun way to say maintenance |
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| 09:29.46 | jleclanche | https://pay.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/22guuo/never_ignore_a_sheep/cgmsjta?context=4 |
| 09:33.59 | bluspacecow | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2978624/New_Zealand_Army_Soldier.jpg |
| 09:34.15 | nevcairiel | thats one nice gun |
| 09:34.33 | nevcairiel | are you invading australia? |
| 09:34.39 | bluspacecow | maybe |
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| 09:47.37 | karl_w_w | nevcairiel, it is actually a login queue, I had it once |
| 09:47.47 | karl_w_w | the time I would assume is a glitch though :P |
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| 09:54.16 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.imgur.com/N17ndUb.jpg |
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| 10:07.31 | bluspacecow | dat feeling. when you don’t want to click on a new iOs game as you scared it’s a flappy bird clone |
| 10:08.06 | Maldivia | is the name of the game anything with numbers? |
| 10:08.19 | bluspacecow | 2048? |
| 10:08.57 | Maldivia | well, 2048, threes, etc -- numbers seems to be popular game titles lately |
| 10:10.47 | Maldivia | or HL3 for that matter |
| 10:20.36 | bluspacecow | work tiems :( |
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| 10:57.29 | Maldivia | wtf just happened to my Spotify |
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| 11:29.31 | jleclanche | Maldivia: it got spotified maybe? |
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| 11:50.12 | Maldivia | they went Metro-look with it, it seems |
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| 12:23.33 | airtonix | jleclanche: how do you feel about requirejs vs browserify ? |
| 12:26.03 | airtonix | nevcairiel: if you've ever played the dayz mod (and/or epoch), you might know about the rabbits... zero fucks given as they sprint into the path of your vehicle/fire-line... |
| 12:26.20 | airtonix | also all rabbits carry as50s |
| 12:27.38 | jleclanche | airtonix: i care absolutely not for either of them |
| 12:27.42 | jleclanche | i dont work with node |
| 12:27.58 | airtonix | so you don't work with javascript at all then? |
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| 12:45.34 | Fisker | Hey Lopeppeppy |
| 12:47.39 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, dear. |
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| 13:00.24 | jleclanche | airtonix: i work with js but i dont use node |
| 13:00.33 | jleclanche | and i dont use any js package manager |
| 13:00.41 | airtonix | you don't have to use node to use requirejs |
| 13:07.23 | jleclanche | yeah but its kinda pointless |
| 13:08.23 | airtonix | i used to think that way |
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| 13:09.06 | airtonix | i also used to use php |
| 13:09.34 | airtonix | i still won't use ruby though |
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| 13:33.55 | Sintacks | really wish i had a third monitor |
| 13:34.19 | Sintacks | so i can watch TV and work on an addon, without having to tab back and forth between WoW and editor |
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| 13:36.17 | nevcairiel | wow in window mode |
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| 14:12.57 | jleclanche | airtonix: its not so much about that |
| 14:13.03 | jleclanche | i just dont use that many js libraries |
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| 15:37.59 | TC-Work | I wonder if you can eliminate the need for JS using CSS and python. |
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| 15:59.23 | jleclanche | gmail is down |
| 15:59.26 | jleclanche | OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD |
| 15:59.30 | TC-Work | Lies |
| 15:59.40 | Dagmar | Works for me |
| 15:59.58 | jleclanche | then my account is not accessible =( |
| 16:00.03 | jleclanche | i should really set up mailr |
| 16:00.26 | TC-Work | Can always check http://www.google.com/appsstatus#hl=en&v=status and it seems fine |
| 16:00.37 | jleclanche | yea.. thats updated manually |
| 16:00.59 | TC-Work | so is ur mom. |
| 16:01.07 | jleclanche | so is ur mom. |
| 16:01.21 | TC-Work | nuh uh, ur mom. |
| 16:01.26 | jleclanche | ey, calculon's back |
| 16:01.27 | jleclanche | also gmail |
| 16:01.45 | TC-Work | and ur mom. |
| 16:07.23 | Shirik | fucking UPS |
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| 16:07.38 | Shirik | I ordered something from Amazon as like 11 PM on Sunday, with 2 day delivery |
| 16:07.49 | Shirik | yesterday I was saying to myself "why hasn't the UPS tracking info updated yet" |
| 16:07.56 | Shirik | today it updated to "out for delivery" |
| 16:08.11 | Shirik | turns out it's being shipped from a location 1 hour away from me, and they sat on it for 2 days so that it takes that long |
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| 16:17.44 | nevcairiel | its the US, the land of everyone screwing you over |
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| 16:18.44 | TC-Work | Except people you want to be screwed by. |
| 16:18.59 | Unkle | ... I picked the right time to arrive. |
| 16:19.24 | Shirik | nice TC-Work |
| 16:19.33 | Unkle | Station, my excellent friends. |
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| 16:36.38 | TC-Work | Shirik: How do you know that is where it is shipping from? |
| 16:37.09 | nevcairiel | UPS tracking usually tells you the origin, doesnt it |
| 16:37.35 | Shirik | yes |
| 16:38.08 | nevcairiel | of course maybe their tracking is broken and thats just hte UPS warehouse |
| 16:38.25 | nevcairiel | but its more likely they're just screwing you |
| 16:38.39 | Shirik | http://gyazo.com/463f84e9de8a889282b04fdf83825e5f |
| 16:38.48 | Shirik | I guess theoretically it also could be Amazon |
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| 16:38.56 | Shirik | being like "muahaha we know this will only take 1 day, we're waiting" |
| 16:39.07 | Shirik | but I don't think they have any benefit from doing that |
| 16:40.55 | TC-Work | Shirik: Pickup may not be the amazon warehouse though. They do weird stuff. |
| 16:47.47 | Shirik | in other news |
| 16:47.51 | Shirik | Skynet is almost here: http://www.janes.com/article/36533/navy-league-2014-usmc-on-track-for-blackjack-ioc-this-year |
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| 16:53.35 | Shirik | neat http://macheist.com/ jnwhiteh |
| 16:53.39 | Shirik | and anyone else that uses a mac |
| 16:53.42 | Shirik | I don't know any others |
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| 18:15.20 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy |
| 18:20.06 | TC-Work | Fisker |
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| 18:21.42 | Neffi | Shirik: Those apps seem really expensive on their own. I dont think you're getting as much of a deal as it seems. I think you're just getting the opportunity to not pay an arm and a leg for something just because it's made for Mac |
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| 18:29.43 | TC-Work | Well you are getting a deal for them if you want them on mac |
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| 18:39.34 | Lopeppeppy | Is it time to go home yet? |
| 18:40.00 | TC-Work | Yes |
| 18:40.03 | TC-Work | Somewhere |
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| 18:51.15 | Fisker | Do you want me to make it time Lopeppeppy ? |
| 18:56.19 | Lopeppeppy | I still have The Boss Meeting at 3pm. Maybe afterward. |
| 18:56.47 | Dagmar | Don't worry, the SWAT team can probably override that |
| 18:59.35 | TC-Work | and/or bomb scare |
| 18:59.42 | TC-Work | natural disaster |
| 19:01.09 | Fisker | Fisker coming to visit |
| 19:02.06 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://pastebin.com || 5.4.x ToC: 50400 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || This channel is logged, via purl || UI changes to battle.net chat in 5.4.7: http://bit.ly/1biaLRQ || Happy Birthday Dolby! |
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| 19:05.09 | TC-Work | "Dolby was lovingly crafted xx years ago to feature high quality at an affordable price point." "Dude...we are talking about the person, not the brand." "Oh....eh, still works." |
| 19:05.25 | Dagmar | heh |
| 19:05.26 | Cairenn | heh |
| 19:08.30 | bluipodcow | So your saying he's cheap but good |
| 19:08.36 | bluipodcow | Roger dodger |
| 19:09.03 | Dagmar | u buy nao! u no look elsewhere! |
| 19:10.06 | bluipodcow | Nope |
| 19:10.31 | bluipodcow | *cheerfully examines Dagmars ass* |
| 19:10.57 | Dagmar | shakes it. |
| 19:11.20 | bluipodcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.54 | TC-Work | It's all fun and games until blu tests it for workmanship. |
| 19:13.26 | Dagmar | I'm built to last https://www.dnalounge.com/gallery/2001/08-10/22.html |
| 19:14.38 | TC-Work | go last* |
| 19:15.57 | Dagmar | Only thing different now is that my hair isn't bleached |
| 19:17.06 | bluipodcow | :) |
| 19:17.25 | Dagmar | I probably should not have been surprised that the princess talked about how she'd be kind to her loyalists and if anyone crossed her she'd kill them, their children, their extended nuclear family and housepets, and take killing their neighbors and anyone who liked the same kind of music under advisement. |
| 19:17.30 | Dagmar | wrong chan. heh |
| 19:26.25 | dolby | :D |
| 19:30.52 | Fisker | Aha |
| 19:31.02 | Fisker | I know who you are dolby |
| 19:31.55 | dolby | I am batman |
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| 20:10.24 | jleclanche | https://mediacru.sh/brw6pg2WKo4J whatever shall i choose... |
| 20:20.56 | TC-Work | Standard if you don't want it dropped on your porch |
| 20:22.25 | d[karl]b | what if he doesn't have a porch? |
| 20:22.35 | karl_w_w | so many issues to consider |
| 20:28.36 | jleclanche | TC-Work: this isnt america, our postmen are actually decent |
| 20:29.10 | TC-Work | jleclanche: Is everyone? Because it was not the postman I was thinking of |
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| 20:42.38 | Ackis | I created a google account as a throwaway and apparently I need to actually access the e-mail... is there anyway to figure out the username? Yes I'm an idiot :P |
| 20:44.02 | Caleb| | don't you need another e-mail address to make a google account, where they send confirmation mail when your account is created? check maybe that e-mail if you remember that. |
| 20:45.26 | Ackis | tried that, all the e-mails I've used are considered existing accounts |
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| 22:30.25 | jleclanche | anyone using a logitech G930 on Windows or OSX? |
| 22:32.07 | TC-Work | I have one, but I almost never use it |
| 22:35.08 | jleclanche | TC-Work: what OS? |
| 22:35.25 | TC-Work | jleclanche: Windows 7/8 |
| 22:35.40 | jleclanche | TC-Work: do you have logitech drivers installed or do you use whatever is builtin to windows? |
| 22:35.48 | TC-Work | Actually, I am not sure I have used it with 8 yet |
| 22:36.00 | TC-Work | jleclanche: I used the drivers. |
| 22:36.11 | TC-Work | Although I am not sure I needed to, but I wanted the options |
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| 22:36.37 | jleclanche | TC-Work: Has the headset ever run out of battery on you, or do you always charge it/shut it down before? |
| 22:37.04 | TC-Work | jleclanche: It has beeped at me while wearing it. |
| 22:37.12 | TC-Work | but not flat out died |
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| 22:38.03 | jleclanche | TC-Work: has it ever happened to you that the headset's volume knob no longer actually work properly, on a software level? |
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| 22:38.20 | jleclanche | this is something that generally happens on linux once the headset's battery has run out so you may not have seen it |
| 22:38.32 | TC-Work | No, it has always worked for me |
| 22:38.44 | TC-Work | but then I have never let it completly juice out. |
| 22:38.46 | jleclanche | well this is gonna be a pain in the ass to debug |
| 22:38.56 | TC-Work | I can test if you like |
| 22:39.02 | jleclanche | that would be nice |
| 22:39.35 | jleclanche | TC-Work: the test procedure is: let the headset run out of battery completely and shut down. then plug it in, turn it back on and use it for at least 30 minutes more |
| 22:39.41 | jleclanche | see if that volume knob still works properly |
| 22:41.29 | jleclanche | TC-Work: I cant figure out whether this is a bug in firmware or in the linux driver. basically, the volume input is delayed until one of the G keys is pressed |
| 22:42.22 | Neffi- | probably linux driver |
| 22:42.29 | jleclanche | unsafe assumption |
| 22:42.57 | Neffi- | actually it should present itself as a generic device, and the drivers hould just be pushing the command to increase volume like a media keyboard |
| 22:42.59 | jleclanche | (but yes its likely) |
| 22:43.09 | jleclanche | yes that is the case |
| 22:43.29 | jleclanche | however after the battery has run out what seems to happen is that turning the volume knob has no effect |
| 22:43.34 | Neffi- | But I have noticed that certain hardware registers as 2 devices, eg a mouse + a keyboard, and Xorg sometimes fails to recognize the 2nd device, so non-std buttons dont function |
| 22:43.43 | jleclanche | but pushing one of the G keys can trigger one of the "buffered" volume input |
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| 23:16.25 | plaw | tackle hugs Cairenn |
| 23:18.09 | karl_w_w | i think my grill is nuclear powered |
| 23:18.22 | karl_w_w | i put hot cross buns under it |
| 23:18.37 | karl_w_w | i checked them, they were very lightly brown so I put them back under |
| 23:19.07 | karl_w_w | i got a knife out of the drawer, i got the flora out of the fridge, i checked them again, one was literally on fire |
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