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| 00:14.18 | jleclanche | Dagmar: http://dorey.github.io/JavaScript-Equality-Table/ |
| 00:14.33 | jleclanche | this is... It's fun. I knew it was bad but this puts it nicely into a picture |
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| 00:42.52 | Dagmar | jleclanche: It's like PHP. :) |
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| 01:15.42 | Neffi | cool |
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| 02:27.35 | karl_w_w | can somebody tell me how to win the lottery so I can buy a tesla? |
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| 02:39.06 | airtonix | be born into the right family |
| 02:42.11 | Neffi | karl_w_w: (1) collect underpants; (2) ?; (3) profit |
| 02:42.47 | karl_w_w | instructions unclear; got family stuck in underpants |
| 02:43.13 | Neffi | maybe it only works for gnomes. pay for a race change? |
| 02:47.00 | karl_w_w | How does a farmer find his sheep in tall grass? |
| 02:47.41 | karl_w_w | Pleasurable. |
| 02:48.44 | Neffi | <_< |
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| 03:00.19 | Shirik | wtfffffffffffff |
| 03:00.21 | Shirik | http://imgur.com/SxrAa7Y |
| 03:12.28 | karl_w_w | are wireless headphones actually good |
| 03:12.36 | karl_w_w | or do you lose quality from wirelessness |
| 03:14.04 | Neffi | maybe |
| 03:14.43 | Neffi | Are you looking for top-notch music quality? Or do you just want a solid pair of headphones which are wireless but also don't sound like trash? |
| 03:15.00 | Neffi | If top-notch quality is a must, I'd avoid wireless |
| 03:15.10 | Neffi | -- and also avoid a lot of other stuff |
| 03:15.40 | karl_w_w | I don't really know :P |
| 03:16.08 | Neffi | I don't know of any good wireless headphones, but I'd severely doubt there are any really great sounding ones |
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| 03:37.36 | karl_w_w | http://www.amazon.com/Audeze-Lcd-3/dp/B00BF9G34M roughly 20x my price range :P |
| 03:42.30 | Trela | So, incredibly over priced head phones! |
| 03:53.07 | Neffi | Really high end planar magnetic phones are not cheap |
| 03:53.26 | Neffi | karl_w_w: what is your price range? |
| 03:54.04 | karl_w_w | I'm strongly considering these http://www.amazon.com/Brainwavz-HM5-Studio-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B006MA9XXM/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top |
| 03:54.26 | Neffi | Also $3000 isn't the final price. Try driving them with a normal headphone output. Fat chance. You need a really beefy amp for planar magnetics |
| 03:54.41 | karl_w_w | up to about $200 |
| 03:55.09 | Neffi | Never heard of Brainwavz |
| 03:55.59 | Neffi | Look into Sennheiser or Audio-Technica, or maybe AKG |
| 03:56.19 | Neffi | I think we've got a few audio inclined people here that would recommend others if they were around |
| 03:56.21 | karl_w_w | I was looking at Audio Technica ATH-M50 but apparently they become quite uncomfortable |
| 03:56.39 | karl_w_w | because they clamp on quite hard |
| 03:56.46 | Neffi | Also pay mind to the impedance and sensitivity. Some good cans require a headphone amp |
| 03:56.53 | karl_w_w | which is something that always bothers me |
| 03:57.05 | Neffi | I'm sure that can be helped |
| 03:57.13 | Neffi | But I've never used those |
| 03:57.23 | Neffi | Also I'm guessing you wouldn't want IEMs? |
| 03:57.58 | karl_w_w | nah |
| 03:58.14 | Neffi | To each his own. I really love my thinksound ts02 IEMs. |
| 03:58.28 | Neffi | But I'd *love* to get some Sennheiser HD 650s and an O2+ODAC amp/DAC |
| 03:59.07 | kullervo | Neffi: I have O2+ODAC, pretty good |
| 03:59.23 | Neffi | The measurements suggest it's better than just "pretty good" |
| 03:59.24 | kullervo | using a Beyerdynamics headset with it |
| 03:59.53 | karl_w_w | im happy with iems but i want something with better isolation for home |
| 04:00.05 | Neffi | I've seen a few independent tests that confirmed NwAvGuy's findings. It was referenced against a DAC1 and compared favorably. That's absolutely incredible for something you can build for under $200 and buy prebuilt for under $300 |
| 04:00.38 | Neffi | (The DAC1 is $1600 and is considered one of *the* references for studios) |
| 04:00.39 | kullervo | karl_w_w: my headset has over 18dB passive noise reduction D: |
| 04:01.03 | kullervo | earlier I thought there's a new clock in the house, seemed to tick at the same rate as the seconds in my irssi went by |
| 04:01.07 | kullervo | then I realised it's my pulse |
| 04:01.21 | Neffi | o.o heh |
| 04:01.30 | kullervo | music was paused, just forgot the headset on |
| 04:02.08 | Neffi | also karl_w_w Beyerdynamics is also great, look at those ;) |
| 04:02.47 | kullervo | their "good" build quality starts at a far lower price point than sennheiser's |
| 04:03.17 | Neffi | Yeah, I'm gonna shop around a bit when I get the cash. Not sure I want to fork over $600 for my first really good set of cans |
| 04:04.12 | kullervo | there was an amazon sale on some beyerdynamic headphones earlier |
| 04:04.19 | kullervo | not sure if it's still up |
| 04:04.41 | kullervo | their MMX300 headset was on sale too |
| 04:04.58 | Neffi | well karl_w_w, there you go |
| 04:05.47 | karl_w_w | no amazon in australia |
| 04:06.14 | kullervo | ah, right. You'll pay a hefty premium on anything you want to order. |
| 04:06.24 | Neffi | :| |
| 04:06.29 | kullervo | I'm in a lucky position, Germany is right over there and it's tax free to order from there. |
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| 05:16.53 | kd3 | whee, first try to beat maltheal on expert |
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| 05:31.34 | Jamash | someone buy me a copy of RoS |
| 05:38.09 | bluspacecow | ok |
| 05:38.10 | bluspacecow | http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Friends-Complete-Series-Collection-DVD-2006-40-Disc-Set-Digipak-Back-Back-/55149826 |
| 05:39.08 | bluspacecow | oh you mean Reaper of Souls |
| 05:39.17 | bluspacecow | not Ross from friends |
| 05:39.18 | bluspacecow | my bad |
| 05:42.12 | nebula169 | badum tish |
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| 06:22.41 | karl_w_w | why would you buy friends on dvd |
| 06:22.50 | karl_w_w | just watch any tv channel for a week and you're bound to see the episode you want |
| 06:24.46 | Shirik | http://imgur.com/UaiH6lD |
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| 06:45.44 | Sintacks | nebula169, was that enough info |
| 06:46.54 | karl_w_w | http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads//2014/02/manday-33.jpg why would they put it on clothing? |
| 06:50.04 | karl_w_w | http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads//2014/02/displeased-corn-recovery.jpg |
| 07:14.20 | Sintacks | same reason we wear shit with asian languages when we don't know what it says |
| 07:14.22 | Sintacks | because we're stupid |
| 07:15.24 | Mr_Rabies | i would wear either of those |
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| 15:39.25 | Lopeppeppy | La la la. |
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| 15:43.53 | Unkle | multipass |
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| 16:21.09 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 16:21.17 | Fisker | Who is still working? |
| 16:21.33 | Lopeppeppy | Not my stupid ass boss. |
| 16:21.43 | Fisker | oh not mine either |
| 16:21.49 | Fisker | We were going to BAKE A CAKE |
| 16:21.53 | Fisker | But then stuff stopped working |
| 16:21.57 | Fisker | who fixes stuff here? |
| 16:21.59 | Fisker | <- |
| 16:22.01 | Fisker | No baking for me :( |
| 16:23.15 | Fisker | Which was nice actually |
| 16:23.33 | Fisker | I hate people |
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| 17:33.31 | karl_w_w | what do you call those clothing pieces which are t-shirt shaped but the material is thicker |
| 17:35.37 | kd3 | thick t-shirts? |
| 17:36.08 | karl_w_w | sure :P |
| 17:36.20 | karl_w_w | I would have never thought of that |
| 17:36.55 | karl_w_w | polo shirt |
| 17:37.03 | karl_w_w | thanks wikkapedia |
| 17:38.31 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: polo |
| 17:38.37 | jleclanche | you found it |
| 17:38.49 | karl_w_w | thanks mister |
| 17:39.00 | karl_w_w | you're more useful than kd3 :P |
| 17:39.11 | kd3 | useful? me? perish the thought |
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| 18:03.51 | TC-Work | Fisker: Have you played Carmageddon yet? |
| 18:03.59 | Fisker | no |
| 18:04.08 | Fisker | I don't buy games to play them you silly goose |
| 18:04.15 | Fisker | would you get a load of this guy Lopeppeppy ? |
| 18:04.38 | TC-Work | hah |
| 18:04.48 | TC-Work | you skeered her away Fisker |
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| 18:37.52 | zenzelezz | Carmageddon... now those were good times |
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| 18:41.55 | TC-Work | It's a remake |
| 18:41.58 | TC-Work | and it looks good |
| 18:42.24 | zenzelezz | does it feel like the original, or the sequels? |
| 18:43.02 | pompy | http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2008175-north-carolina-player-reportedly-received-an-a-for-this-short-paper wow lol.. tisk tisk UNC |
| 18:48.52 | karl_w_w | yeah I can't hold out any more, I'm buying these http://www.amazon.com/Brainwavz-HM5-Studio-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B006MA9XXM/ |
| 18:49.20 | karl_w_w | especially as only 17 left and I can't find any in stock in australia |
| 18:49.35 | Dagmar | pompy: You can't say that's a bad paper. He's talking about race history. Different standards have to be applied! |
| 18:52.11 | TC-Work | karl_w_w: 10-26 doesnt seem like a large range |
| 18:53.22 | Neffi | karl_w_w: you sure you wouldn't want some good Beyerdynamics or Audio-Technicas instead? |
| 18:53.57 | Neffi | Also they might be great. I've just never heard of them. |
| 18:54.02 | karl_w_w | I've looked at a lot of others, none seem as attractive to me as these |
| 18:54.11 | TC-Work | I have http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-280-Pro-Headphones/dp/B000065BPB and I am finding issues with loudness |
| 18:54.23 | TC-Work | as it, it has issues when it gets really loud |
| 18:54.30 | karl_w_w | I've seen a lot of reviews which basically just gush about how good they are |
| 18:54.42 | TC-Work | as in* |
| 18:56.08 | Neffi | TC-Work: What kind of issues? That's pretty vague |
| 18:56.21 | Neffi | More than likely there's a solid cause of "issues" that isn't the headphones fault, but the amp's fault |
| 18:56.30 | Neffi | Onboard audio and most MP3 players have abysmal amps |
| 18:56.47 | TC-Work | This is coming from a set of altec lansing speakers |
| 18:57.14 | Neffi | Clipping/distortion? |
| 18:57.31 | Neffi | Shrill sounding treble? Anemic bass? |
| 18:57.37 | Neffi | The amp can very well be the cause |
| 18:57.47 | TC-Work | Maybe. I would have to trigger it again as I do not remember. |
| 18:58.15 | Neffi | Their impedance is right in the range where a headphone-level amp can drive them at lower volumes, but would start to be non-ideal at higher volumes and potentially have these issues |
| 18:59.05 | Dagmar | If you have it plugged into the speakers, instead of directly into the playback device, that's probably the problem. |
| 18:59.24 | Neffi | karl_w_w: I've seen a lot of reviews gush about how great iPods sound, how great certain FiiO amps which are demonstrably bad are, how great Beats are, how great Apple's earbuds are, etc |
| 18:59.26 | TC-Work | hmmm..no, it's something more specific, I just tried again |
| 18:59.30 | TC-Work | didn't do it |
| 18:59.30 | Dagmar | THe socket is probably filled with dust and god knnows what else from disuse |
| 18:59.52 | karl_w_w | I'm talking about guys who seem to know what they are talking about Neffi :P |
| 19:00.08 | Neffi | And it may not be wired well. You can certainly get bad feedback from a bad port, even if the amp is fine |
| 19:00.08 | karl_w_w | and more importantly, I haven't seen a negative review |
| 19:00.31 | TC-Work | Give Neffi a few to write one up. |
| 19:00.34 | Dagmar | Plug the headphones into something else |
| 19:00.49 | Dagmar | I would be _highly_ suprised if Sennheiser's weren't working right |
| 19:01.01 | Neffi | A lot of people on Head-Fi seem to know what they're talking about. But those same people berated NwAvGuy, attempted to have his blog forcibly shut down, and eventually got him to quit blogging about audio engineering, because he demonstrated the futility of purely subjective design/testing |
| 19:01.18 | karl_w_w | "Estimated delivery: Apr. 9, 2014 - Apr. 21, 2014" :( |
| 19:01.21 | Neffi | Audiophiles are a terrible bunch of people and have built a shitty pseudoscience that they dont want to give up |
| 19:03.23 | Neffi | also not to sound like a heathen, but Amazon reviews may or may not be written by the manufacturer to promote their own product |
| 19:03.28 | Dagmar | Fuck it. If they want to pay $600 for a 5-ft ethernet cable, I'll be happy to sell it to them. |
| 19:04.00 | Dagmar | There's a whole lot of pompous idiots out there who self-identify as 'audiophiles'. |
| 19:04.01 | TC-Work | but it uses gold plated copper wires!!!! |
| 19:04.16 | Dagmar | I had one recently trying to fucking tell me a CD carried better audio than vinyl. |
| 19:04.39 | karl_w_w | it does |
| 19:04.39 | Neffi | how about $100,000? http://www.coconut-audio.com/ |
| 19:04.44 | Dagmar | Perhaps after 1,000 plays. A new, clean, properly pressed vinyl? No fuckin' way |
| 19:04.45 | karl_w_w | when both are covered in dust! |
| 19:05.19 | Neffi | Dagmar: Prime word carried. CDs don't degrade =P |
| 19:05.41 | Dagmar | I've got three pairs of headshells, the most expensive of which were $135. They are _clearly_ worth it |
| 19:05.57 | Dagmar | Neffi: Google the term 'bronzing'. |
| 19:06.16 | Dagmar | There's actually an annoying number of CDs made improperly that degrade pretty horribly |
| 19:06.40 | Neffi | I'm not surprised actually |
| 19:06.59 | Neffi | Bronzing refers to them degrading? I only found the electroplating info |
| 19:07.12 | Dagmar | Material science for manufacturing this stuff has come a *long* way since the 80's. |
| 19:07.26 | Dagmar | Neffi: Basically, the metal layer in the CD jsut plain tarnishes and becomes unreadable |
| 19:07.27 | Neffi | Yeah, definitely |
| 19:07.52 | Dagmar | The headshells that look like their design was inspired by an Airdale hound are _insanely_ sensitive |
| 19:08.27 | Neffi | I'm not a vinyl guy myself. I know little about them |
| 19:08.51 | Dagmar | Well, if the headshell you're looking at is a little white square thing, it's sort of "consumer-level crap" |
| 19:09.05 | Neffi | CDs are fine quality. Sure you get some quantization error with digital, but it represents its input very well |
| 19:10.02 | Dagmar | Anything involving these are going to be "okay" and not much better than that http://www.amazon.com/Stanton-H4SV2-H4-S-V2-Turntable-Headshell/dp/B002TP9154 |
| 19:10.03 | Neffi | What about a laser vinyl reader? Are they as good, or is that just about preserving the vinyl longer? |
| 19:11.16 | Dagmar | In theory they could be good. Not touching the vinyl will definitely reduce wear and tear |
| 19:11.46 | Dagmar | This type of design however... holy shit http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/ortofon-pro-s-concorde-turntable-cartridge-twin-pack |
| 19:11.53 | Dagmar | See what I mean about "airdale" |
| 19:12.01 | Neffi | pretty |
| 19:12.17 | Dagmar | They are _wildly_ better at both the lower and upper ends of the spectrum. |
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| 19:12.46 | Neffi | I've wondered if a laser reader produces an analog signal, or runs that through an ADC |
| 19:13.00 | Dagmar | It does quite a bit more than even that |
| 19:13.32 | Dagmar | It'll be an excruciatingly precise read, but for "DJ purposes" it's not going to be useful |
| 19:13.41 | Neffi | Also I'd bet a CD is going to trump the quality of a vinyl played with run-of-the-mill hardware |
| 19:14.07 | Dagmar | Yeah at the "crappy dime store electronics" end CDs will win out |
| 19:14.50 | Neffi | But all this seems futile. CDs are pretty much transparent, no? |
| 19:14.58 | Dagmar | ...but if you're dealing with that stuff, you're probably just trying to fend off silence. |
| 19:15.07 | Dagmar | Transparent? |
| 19:15.50 | Neffi | I mean, they roll off in the supersonics, and they've got some small errors in the quantization (which may or may not be effectively pushed to an inaudible area), but they've got great dynamic range and consistently reproduce faithfully, as best as the ear can tell |
| 19:16.28 | Dagmar | THey have an "okay" dynamic range, offset in practice by the fact that mastering engineers are usually assholes. |
| 19:16.30 | Neffi | If you had the best of the best hardware, does a vinyl really sound perceptibly better than a CD? And you think a double blind test will back that up? |
| 19:16.54 | Dagmar | Photek. Ni Ten Ichi Ryu. |
| 19:17.01 | Dagmar | Get it on CD annd vinyl. |
| 19:17.21 | Dagmar | the CD, like 99.9% of the stuff on the market, was mastered separately before pressing. |
| 19:17.28 | Neffi | 90 dB of dynami range seems about as much as the ear can discern even in extreme conditions. I think the real problem lies in audio engineers and the loudness war, not in the medium |
| 19:17.35 | Dagmar | It's compressed and basically sort of squashed out. |
| 19:18.17 | Dagmar | The vinyl on the other hand will, with good headshells/needles, make you wonder why they ever thought what they did to the CD was acceptable. |
| 19:18.38 | Dagmar | The vinyl is cut to be played at 45rpm, even though it's 12" |
| 19:18.50 | Neffi | Yeah, that really destroys some stuff |
| 19:18.50 | Neffi | RHCP's music is so poorly mastered. You notice it when you listen on good hardware |
| 19:18.53 | Dagmar | If you play it at 33 RPM with different headshells, the bassline gets sick |
| 19:18.55 | Neffi | Their god-damn cymbals are drowned out by the compression they use to bring loudness to the forefront, and many elements of the music clip! |
| 19:19.10 | Neffi | Singing should not clip because of loudness |
| 19:19.32 | Dagmar | The main advantage vinyl has is like the difference between RCA cables and XLR connectors (balanced) |
| 19:19.55 | Neffi | A lot of material suggests that difference is absolutely negligible in home use cases |
| 19:19.57 | Dagmar | RCA connectors have a very specific range they _must_ stay within. That sets a maximum bandwidth. |
| 19:20.12 | Dagmar | Yeah "home use" is generally not good quality |
| 19:20.31 | Dagmar | XLR can technically carry whatever the fuck voltage it wants |
| 19:20.50 | Dagmar | It gets you a lot more headroom and puts a major dent in any possible clipping. |
| 19:20.57 | Neffi | I suppose it makes a difference specifically with analog sources then |
| 19:21.00 | Dagmar | You may get _overdriving_ and some fires, tho'. ;) |
| 19:21.57 | Neffi | Bah. I can't afford to have you convince me I need vinyl. |
| 19:22.01 | Neffi | Shit gets expensive |
| 19:22.01 | Dagmar | heheh |
| 19:22.06 | Dagmar | No shit |
| 19:22.14 | Dagmar | I've got over 1,000 12"s in my stufy |
| 19:22.17 | Dagmar | er study |
| 19:22.24 | Dagmar | I know it's expensive |
| 19:22.57 | Neffi | I thought I was aiming high with planning to drop like $900 on headphones+amp when I get the extra cash |
| 19:22.59 | Dagmar | Every last one of them in their own poly-bad, too |
| 19:23.03 | Dagmar | @#$@# poly-bag |
| 19:23.18 | Dagmar | Yes that is actually kinda high |
| 19:23.42 | Neffi | Yeah, that's a bit down the road. But I want some great headphones and an O2+ODAC |
| 19:23.54 | Dagmar | $900 should be able to get you enough to put in a small house and perhaps not piss off the neighbors much |
| 19:24.07 | Neffi | I much prefer headphones for music |
| 19:24.19 | Dagmar | I prefer six foot bassbins. ;) |
| 19:24.26 | Neffi | There's nothing like the immersion they give on drum-heavy tracks |
| 19:24.33 | Dagmar | I live in a condo tho, so that's completely out of the picture. heh |
| 19:25.16 | Dagmar | Neffi: Excepting a stack of bassbins that will decarbonate a soda in about 20 seconds. |
| 19:25.37 | Neffi | o.o |
| 19:25.56 | Dagmar | I used to do DJ work |
| 19:26.19 | Neffi | Man I remember my stepfather's setup. 2 Yamaha subwoofers, dual 8" each. Sure they didn't extend perfectly to 20 Hz, but damn that tightness |
| 19:26.22 | Dagmar | I'm familiar with a lot of the stuff relating to using speakers as weapons against sanity. ;) |
| 19:26.30 | Neffi | Music felt so god-damn real on his setup |
| 19:27.14 | Neffi | and these beauties as the main drivers http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/speaker-systems/home-speaker-systems/ns-777/?mode=model |
| 19:27.28 | Neffi | Pioneer Elite as the source |
| 19:27.29 | Dagmar | Dude there's a Prodigy single that seems like they were trying to find the 'brown note' and I have used it on a system capable of playing it |
| 19:27.40 | Dagmar | 20Hz is just a number. |
| 19:27.41 | Neffi | haha |
| 19:27.59 | Neffi | Yeah sub and supersonics definitely have an element, even if we're not immediately and consciously aware of it |
| 19:28.44 | Dagmar | It's one of the remixes of 'The Weather Experience' and on anything like a "normal" system you're going to hear some jungle-y snares and a sample of a high pitched voice saying 'little bit o' bass ... little bit of drums' |
| 19:28.49 | Dagmar | There is no "little" to the bass there. |
| 19:29.00 | Neffi | haha |
| 19:29.14 | Dagmar | It'll make you think the train outside just derailed and is about to plow through the fucking warehouse |
| 19:30.03 | Dagmar | It will _blow_ subwoofers the fuck up if they do not have a limiter |
| 19:30.15 | Dagmar | Cones will fuckin' tear |
| 19:30.45 | Neffi | I love bass that has impact, but in my eyes a setup needs to perform even more admirably in the higher and upper mids |
| 19:30.50 | Dagmar | The looks on people's faces tho |
| 19:31.12 | Dagmar | This club had speakers with tubes in them to handle overcurrent |
| 19:31.23 | Dagmar | If you pushed them too far, the tubes would light up |
| 19:31.33 | Dagmar | I might've been the only person to light all of them up at once |
| 19:31.39 | Neffi | I listen to music for the drums. The little variations in the strike of a cymbal or the impact on a the high toms like 8"-10" really showcase the drummer's technique. It's annoying when a setup completely fails to capture that, and you just hear "cymbal" or "tom" |
| 19:31.59 | Dagmar | Ye gods. I filter and channel |
| 19:32.36 | Dagmar | Like, if I've been so lucky as to be given command of a system with more than two channels to it, I'll actually try and separate those out |
| 19:33.11 | Dagmar | I totes agree about single-instrument-dominant tracks |
| 19:33.23 | Neffi | Yeah I've wondered why studios haven't come up with a multi-channel format and a metadata field to tell the receiver how to mix them |
| 19:33.41 | Dagmar | because such things are the forte of madmen and masochists |
| 19:33.44 | Neffi | Guitar in its own channel. Drums in several channels. Etc |
| 19:34.00 | Dagmar | Under normal circumstances, drum kits do *not* up and fly around the room unless you're at a Rush concert |
| 19:34.07 | Neffi | haha |
| 19:34.09 | Dagmar | I take it you've seen Pi? |
| 19:34.14 | Neffi | The movie? |
| 19:34.16 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 19:34.18 | Neffi | yup |
| 19:34.29 | Dagmar | Alex Patterson (The Orb) did lots of audio work for it. |
| 19:34.32 | Neffi | Also drums micing techniques are not cut and dry! |
| 19:34.39 | Neffi | mixing, rather |
| 19:34.48 | Dagmar | He's one of the few people around who seems to be capable of putting a 7.1 layout to serious work. |
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| 19:35.12 | Dagmar | If you have _not_ seen Pi using a system capable of 7.1, you will be in for a shock when you finally do (assuming it was tuned properly) |
| 19:35.25 | Neffi | Wait, the black and white movie? |
| 19:35.28 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 19:35.35 | Dagmar | The audio is actually rather incredible. |
| 19:35.39 | Neffi | I watched it on crummy headphones :| |
| 19:35.48 | Neffi | I'll definitely check it out if I get access to a good setup |
| 19:36.00 | Dagmar | Yeah you should. It's positively hallucinatory |
| 19:36.26 | Dagmar | The bits where he's starting to get a migraine coming on, Alex goes apeshit |
| 19:36.34 | Neffi | Ah, yes |
| 19:37.11 | Dagmar | If he can manage six channels during a show, I'm at least damn well going to try for four |
| 19:38.26 | Neffi | heh |
| 19:38.39 | Neffi | I'm sure it takes a precise and unique talent |
| 19:39.05 | Dagmar | I admire him so much |
| 19:39.27 | Neffi | I know I knew the name, but I'm failing to recall from where. I'm gonna check his work out |
| 19:39.47 | Dagmar | The Orb? |
| 19:39.57 | Dagmar | Former sound guy for The KLF? |
| 19:39.58 | Neffi | I don't recall the Orb, but I definitely recall him |
| 19:40.17 | Dagmar | He's basically the progenitor of Ambient House |
| 19:40.41 | Neffi | Not a genre I generally partake in |
| 19:40.55 | Dagmar | He put together Blue Room, which was both the longest and _longest running_ track to ever hit the #1 spot for radio airplay in the UK |
| 19:41.01 | Dagmar | 43 minutes |
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| 19:41.40 | Dagmar | Also known for being occasionally left unsupervised in studios which contained masters of other very famous works |
| 19:43.02 | Dagmar | ...which results in things like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pink-Floyd-Wish-You-Were-Here-Trance-Remix-CD-/291105217026 |
| 19:43.38 | Neffi | wait... |
| 19:43.59 | Dagmar | ...which is a wholly illegitimate remix of Pink Floyd's 'Wish You Were Here' done by Alex Patterson while people were looking the other way, of which there were only about 1,000 copies made |
| 19:44.15 | Neffi | gonna go find a copy of that |
| 19:44.18 | Dagmar | ...which were very quietly distributed all over the place before any lawyers could get wind of it. |
| 19:44.44 | Dagmar | ...but luckily, since it's such a legal hot-potatoe, there's pretty good rips of it on YouTube |
| 19:44.46 | Neffi | Of course it's not going to be on tpb >_> |
| 19:45.04 | Dagmar | I'll have it digitzed probably around April 3rd. ;) |
| 19:45.29 | Neffi | Lemme get a copy! ;) |
| 19:45.39 | Dagmar | Of course |
| 19:46.01 | Dagmar | I'm going to run a bit-level comparison against the one a friend of mine has which we got from the people who were spiriting them all over the country |
| 19:47.06 | Neffi | Well I've gotta let Windows Update restart, and go clean some dishes. I'll be back soonish |
| 19:47.18 | Dagmar | The big "tell" on that that it's actually Patterson is that while there is a great deal of his stuff in it as well, _some_ of the samples are longer and uncut versions of the samples from his own released stuff |
| 19:49.09 | relaxok | Dagmar: mostly i recognize his hand in stuff when it's got a bunch of loony vocal samples |
| 19:49.22 | Dagmar | Heh yeah there is that |
| 19:49.35 | relaxok | i used to be a huge fan, i contributed a lot to lazlo nibble's discog |
| 19:49.37 | relaxok | of them |
| 19:49.44 | relaxok | and saw them 3 or 4 times |
| 19:50.00 | relaxok | i haven't gone back to them much since the 2000s started |
| 19:50.17 | relaxok | and i didnt know he had anything to do with pi, that's cool |
| 19:52.55 | Dagmar | relaxok: I'm reasonably sure he did at least one other major revamp of a Pink Floyd album but since so much time has freaking passed (not to mention drugs ingested) I can't remember which goddamn one it is |
| 19:53.05 | Dagmar | I vaguely remember light bulbs on a suit |
| 19:53.59 | Dagmar | But... if my memory serves, it was the one he did for giggles that landed him in the studio with the PF masters while people were delberately looking the other way |
| 19:54.08 | Dagmar | ...which is the one I linked. |
| 19:57.18 | relaxok | i know he was a massive fan |
| 19:59.27 | relaxok | in the late 90s, he was dating a girl at Bard College (yes a student), who was friends with my friend's roommate. I never met him but apparently they just smoked weed all day. |
| 20:00.01 | Dagmar | Hehe it explains some things. ;) |
| 20:00.19 | Dagmar | I wonder if the wayback machine still has stuff from xmission |
| 20:00.28 | Dagmar | Surely someone probably mentioned this stuff on one of it's lists |
| 20:04.08 | Gnarfoz | they... what. wat. WHY? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/10636165/Mothers-anger-after-council-install-slalom-ramp-for-disabled-daughter-in-front-garden.html ;D |
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| 20:07.19 | relaxok | Dagmar: http://www.studio-nibble.com/lazlo-bin/discogs/orb/search/ |
| 20:08.31 | relaxok | Dagmar: on that note, scroll to the very bottom.. according to this (pretty knowledgable user base contributing) there were PF remixes attributed to the orb that weren't actually by them |
| 20:09.18 | Dagmar | As far as I know that orange one was the legit one |
| 20:09.45 | Dagmar | No one's likely to own up to it because rules were broken all 'round |
| 20:10.00 | Dagmar | I don't know about the provenance of the others |
| 20:10.31 | Dagmar | We wound up with a copy of the orange one I think about 4 maybe 6 months after hearing about the one with the light bulbs |
| 20:11.24 | Dagmar | The orange one we went to the trouble of feeding into PC and using the ghetto-tacular waveform editors to look at the Orb-sourced samples very carefully |
| 20:11.39 | Dagmar | If it wasn't Patterson it was sommeone who had access to the same source material Patterson used |
| 20:13.03 | Dagmar | There's a Robert Weiner (IIRC) guy who has another cobweb still floating around where he reviews six of them |
| 20:13.19 | Dagmar | I've seen & heard five of the six he had |
| 20:13.53 | Dagmar | when Nibble says "Some are supposedly pretty good" the key word there is "some". One is dreadful and another one is poor at best |
| 20:16.57 | Dagmar | Bronzing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_Disc_bronzing I have two CDs that are doing it. Both have been ripped down to LAME 0 |
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| 20:23.27 | pompy | http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/03/27/uncharted-4-game-director-justin-richmond-leaves-naughty-dog ohh Sony. |
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| 20:51.50 | Jamash | hooray |
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| 20:59.46 | jleclanche | "These aren't loopholes you've found. You can easily lie to the IRS anytime; lying is not a loophole." |
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| 21:51.15 | Primer | it's true |
| 21:59.39 | jleclanche | Shirik: this is the proudest ive ever been of zsh |
| 21:59.40 | jleclanche | https://github.com/jleclanche/dotfiles/commit/b37c9a8216813c1db1b7a8827c7ace327d90f9c4 |
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| 22:39.57 | zmuser3 | my zsh must be way too old (4.2.6) to handle that .zshrc |
| 22:41.27 | relaxok | i used to know of a pompy on irc who i'm pretty sure is not you |
| 22:41.31 | relaxok | bizarre |
| 22:41.37 | relaxok | (assuming you are Mike) |
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| 23:12.45 | jleclanche | zmuser3: i dunno i think most of it is 4.x compatible |
| 23:12.53 | jleclanche | i dont make that much use of fancy features |
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