| 00:02.13 | Neffi | остановить этот semlar |
| 00:02.18 | Semlar-Laptop | no neffi |
| 00:02.23 | Semlar-Laptop | jeopardy is on |
| 00:03.35 | Neffi | в порядке semlar я иду смотреть сейчас |
| 00:04.59 | Semlar-Laptop | name the bible book for 600 |
| 00:05.41 | Semlar-Laptop | what is.. um.. the bible |
| 00:06.18 | Neffi | It's made up of individual "books" |
| 00:06.22 | Amarande | Semlar: here's a fun one, do you know how many books there are in the New Testament? |
| 00:06.29 | Semlar-Laptop | no |
| 00:06.37 | Semlar-Laptop | how new could it be |
| 00:06.58 | Neffi | kinda old, like 2008 i think |
| 00:07.07 | Semlar-Laptop | old neffi |
| 00:07.35 | Amarande | One. Revelation is the only one that is actually a 'book', the others are all letters and gospels and such :) |
| 00:08.16 | Semlar-Laptop | is it like a sequel or what |
| 00:08.34 | Neffi | kinda |
| 00:10.39 | Neffi | http://stupidevilbastard.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/ASimpleExplanation.jpg <- Semlar |
| 00:10.49 | Semlar-Laptop | spoilers neffi |
| 00:13.37 | ccox | Neffi - nice |
| 00:15.30 | Esamynn|work | Neffi: lol |
| 00:15.42 | Esamynn|work | it's funny cuse it's true |
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| 00:53.36 | Stanzilla | prepare for the worst joke ever |
| 00:53.57 | Stanzilla | someone tried to upload the super bowl match on pornhub but it was denied because they don't allow videos of rape |
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| 01:03.22 | kullervo | Stanzilla: pornhub tweeted that like during the game |
| 01:11.29 | Stanzilla | kullervo: oh :/ |
| 01:11.37 | Stanzilla | I don't follow porn sites on twitter :( |
| 01:13.18 | kullervo | Stanzilla: the screencap was everywhere |
| 01:14.00 | Stanzilla | guess I missed it by watching the game :p |
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| 02:02.38 | Arrowmaster | somebody tell me if this still works so i can change it back from inactive http://www.wowace.com/addons/train-whistle/ |
| 02:03.35 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: did you mess with my projects again? i got two notifications for projects being inactive for 90 days |
| 02:04.29 | Semlar | typical torhal |
| 02:04.48 | VIad | I also got notifications about abandoned project :( |
| 02:04.55 | VIad | it's not - it just WORKS without having to be updated! |
| 02:06.30 | Arrowmaster | my stuff should have been set to mature so it doesnt do that after 90 days |
| 02:07.01 | Arrowmaster | anybody want to test it for me? |
| 02:10.42 | Primer | Anyone know how tidyplates detects "other tanks"? |
| 02:10.57 | ccox | are the script kiddies playing in the internet again today? |
| 02:11.05 | ccox | I can't even reach us.battle.net.... |
| 02:11.20 | Primer | Because I recall back in ICC there was an option to NOT highlight mobs that were being tanked by other tanks, and back then there was no role |
| 02:11.21 | kd3|hate`net | I got dropped from bnet chat a few minutes ago |
| 02:11.23 | Semlar | probably their role or by inspecting them |
| 02:11.41 | Semlar | Arrowmaster: i don't have a train set but i can tell you it won't work |
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| 02:11.54 | Arrowmaster | whys that |
| 02:12.04 | Semlar | there's an extra argument for combat log event unfiltered after "eventtype" |
| 02:12.19 | Primer | I'm thinking that now it's using the actual raid role instead |
| 02:12.20 | Semlar | and flags after srcFlags and dstFlags |
| 02:12.39 | Semlar | so spellid would be like 3 arguments off |
| 02:12.44 | Primer | which, in LFR, if you're sitting at 24 and one of the DPS goes tank, it's not detected, and since it's LFR, you can't change your role |
| 02:12.49 | ccox | hmm, traceroute is dead-ending in AT&T's LA servers |
| 02:13.16 | Semlar | (timestamp, event, _, srcGUID, srcName, srcFlags, _, dstGUID, dstName, dstFlags, _, ...) |
| 02:13.30 | kd3 | that's always the case? blizz strips icmp frames at the border |
| 02:13.55 | Arrowmaster | they really went and did a backwards incompatible change like that? |
| 02:13.59 | Semlar | yeah they did |
| 02:14.03 | Primer | ccox: you on time warner? |
| 02:14.11 | Semlar | also having spellid = ... is a little silly for this |
| 02:14.12 | ccox | nope, comcast |
| 02:14.20 | kd3 | blizz? backwards-incompatible changes? perish the though |
| 02:14.33 | ccox | kd3: nope, usually I get more information from a trace |
| 02:14.44 | Primer | just wondering, because TW has a terrible rush hour with its AT&T peer |
| 02:14.54 | Primer | usually starts around 3PM Pacific |
| 02:16.18 | Arrowmaster | Semlar: why is that silly |
| 02:16.41 | Semlar | well you only use it once so i would just put spellid instead of ... up in the function arguments |
| 02:16.49 | Semlar | but that's just me |
| 02:17.15 | Semlar | or even if ... == 61031 |
| 02:17.18 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah finally got the code down and saw it |
| 02:17.30 | Semlar | but that might be a little confusing |
| 02:17.45 | Arrowmaster | yeah its old, thats from back when everybody was doing the combat log event handlers like that |
| 02:18.27 | Semlar | so i have an addon that outputs to the chat the name of the person who was removed from my friends list if someone is missing |
| 02:18.41 | Semlar | battle net went down or something and it just dumped the entire friends list into the chat |
| 02:19.50 | Arrowmaster | sounds almost as bad as when we used to get the list of all online friends being listed in the chat window as going offline when you logout |
| 02:20.14 | Semlar | pretty much |
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| 02:20.26 | Semlar | except it wasn't just people who were online |
| 02:20.48 | Semlar | it has never done this before and battle net has gone down a few times |
| 02:21.12 | kd3 | I got booted from bnet chat ~15 minutes ago and still haven't gotten back on |
| 02:21.13 | Semlar | it's like only part of my friends list was missing |
| 02:22.14 | ccox | and whatever was messing up the net seems to have cleared up... |
| 02:28.30 | Semlar | oh also arrowmaster you're only registering one event so you really don't need to check if it's COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED |
| 02:31.03 | Arrowmaster | the code is its own documentations when i write it that way |
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| 02:47.12 | karl_w_w | damn you Arrowmaster |
| 02:47.21 | Arrowmaster | what |
| 02:47.42 | karl_w_w | you're meant to warn me that clannad is so sad |
| 02:47.53 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 02:47.55 | kd3 | hahahaha |
| 02:48.01 | Arrowmaster | how far did you get |
| 02:48.10 | karl_w_w | why am i paying you to be my anime adviser if you can't manage that |
| 02:48.28 | karl_w_w | half way through after story atm |
| 02:48.32 | Arrowmaster | have you seen Kanon (2006_ yet? |
| 02:48.33 | kd3 | keep watching |
| 02:48.44 | karl_w_w | no |
| 02:48.49 | karl_w_w | i haven't |
| 02:48.50 | Arrowmaster | yeah after story is the really sad part |
| 02:48.56 | kd3 | kanon (the remake) was good. air was okish. Little Busters was good |
| 02:49.13 | Arrowmaster | still havent seen the other two there |
| 02:49.45 | karl_w_w | so much to watch, not enough hours in the day |
| 02:50.23 | Arrowmaster | kd3: i still havent seen the clannad movie, does it have anything new in it? |
| 02:51.03 | kd3 | not really, but I enjoyed it anyway |
| 02:51.14 | karl_w_w | i still haven't even watched cowboy bebop which i sense is some kind of mandatory viewing |
| 02:51.25 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 02:52.07 | kd3 | a different studio (Toei) did the movie than the tv series (Kyoto), so they handled things a bit differently, but they tell the same story |
| 02:52.21 | kd3 | still, if you've got 90 minutes to kill, it's worth it |
| 02:52.40 | Arrowmaster | damnit youtube load faster |
| 02:53.20 | Arrowmaster | http://youtu.be/Kb14GE1ONuw |
| 02:53.58 | kd3 | that whole episode was hilarious |
| 02:55.57 | Arrowmaster | karl_w_w: what about anime movies, summer wars and redline have you seen those? |
| 02:56.41 | Arrowmaster | i got those for christmas |
| 02:56.49 | kd3 | good choices both |
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| 02:58.39 | karl_w_w | nah i haven't |
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| 03:21.21 | Mr_Rabies | karl_w_w: i can be your anime advisor if you're okay with me choosing not to recommend shows based on porn games with sad stories since that's not really my thing :p |
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| 03:24.21 | karl_w_w | yeah i was wondering about that Mr_Rabies, i guess Arrowmaster is just a pervert :P |
| 03:24.44 | Gethe | Log Horizon |
| 03:25.35 | Mr_Rabies | the answer to any recommendation request is always to watch the patlabor OVA first |
| 03:26.47 | Mr_Rabies | bonus portuguese subtitles! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqPfFk3XdNg |
| 03:27.08 | Arrowmaster | Mr_Rabies: the clannad game has no erotic content |
| 03:27.38 | Mr_Rabies | does it not? i thought it did but then they removed it for a later release |
| 03:28.04 | Arrowmaster | ive never played it but afaik it does not |
| 03:28.28 | Mr_Rabies | patlabor's probably the cutest show i've ever watched intentionally and it's about police that use giant-ish robots |
| 03:28.44 | Arrowmaster | many visual novels are released on pc first and ported to console later and if they have erotic content its removed then |
| 03:28.57 | Mr_Rabies | well, the OVA, i haven't seen the tv show yet, and the movies are super mamoru oshii |
| 03:32.12 | Mr_Rabies | noa's really a rare example of a well-written female protagonist in an anime, and the fact that the show's in the 80s is even more surprising |
| 03:32.32 | kd3 | wtf... we've had two freshly-created users upload a random pdf to the wiki. spambots gone weird? |
| 03:32.48 | Mr_Rabies | maybe horse ebooks just went fully active, kd3 |
| 03:32.57 | Mr_Rabies | the viral marketing thing was just a ploy |
| 03:36.42 | Mr_Rabies | are you watching kill la kill and/or samurai flamenco, karl_w_w? |
| 03:37.29 | kd3 | eh, one pdf was a manual for some beefy gas generator, another was for the text of some british law |
| 03:37.42 | kd3 | Shirik: have you seen this crap on enwiki? |
| 03:38.18 | Mr_Rabies | KLK, Samumenco and Space Dandy are pretty much the only good shows this cour, and the first 2 started last cour |
| 03:38.22 | Iriel | kd3: Are the pdf's carrying viral payloads? |
| 03:38.41 | kd3 | possibly...? |
| 03:38.42 | kd3 | tabs open virustotal... |
| 03:41.58 | kd3 | clean for both |
| 03:42.00 | kd3 | boggles |
| 03:42.09 | Iriel | That's just peculiar then |
| 03:46.13 | Kraps | gosh whats the human starting zone |
| 03:46.21 | kd3 | elwynn |
| 03:46.29 | Kraps | yes |
| 03:47.15 | Kraps | i feel like if i had a priest and was walking around elwynn i would be less stressed |
| 03:47.26 | Kraps | right now |
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| 04:47.45 | karl_w_w | nah not watching anything but clannad atm Mr_Rabies, and the only things I've seen more than a couple of episodes of previously are angel beats and fricken love hina |
| 04:48.13 | kd3 | probably my favorite manga (one of the first I actually bought) |
| 04:48.37 | Mr_Rabies | i feel like i need to save you, karl_w_w |
| 04:48.46 | karl_w_w | oh and golden boy haha |
| 04:48.47 | Mr_Rabies | save you from falling down the moe spiral |
| 04:49.00 | Mr_Rabies | golden boy is the best of all of those, imo |
| 04:49.02 | karl_w_w | yes please do |
| 04:49.03 | kd3 | another hilarious choice |
| 04:49.28 | karl_w_w | no mecha |
| 04:49.30 | Mr_Rabies | what's one of your favorite tv shows/movies, live action, cartoon, etc? |
| 04:49.33 | kd3 | what else are you looking for? action? sci-fi? psychothriller/horror? |
| 04:50.17 | Mr_Rabies | why no mecha? :( i mean, i understand you might not be ready for shin mazinger or 70s gundam yet but there's plenty of mecha out there that's a bit more accessible :p |
| 04:50.46 | karl_w_w | sci-fi, fantasy are good, but I'm pretty easy |
| 04:51.18 | karl_w_w | I've seen quiet a few mecha themed ones and it's just never interested me |
| 04:51.37 | Mr_Rabies | there's a lot of bad mecha out there, but there's so much good stuff |
| 04:51.52 | Mr_Rabies | if it's a good show the robot's just a framing device for the actual story |
| 04:52.47 | karl_w_w | favourite shows that come to mind are game of thrones, futurama |
| 04:53.09 | Mr_Rabies | you'd probably like berserk if you like game of thrones, though the comic's so much better than the book |
| 04:53.30 | Mr_Rabies | er |
| 04:53.36 | kd3 | the reboot of fullmetal alchemist should be high on your list (as should be the original) |
| 04:53.36 | Mr_Rabies | comic's better than the show |
| 04:53.57 | karl_w_w | I'm much more into story than action |
| 04:54.15 | karl_w_w | so sign me up for pokemon! |
| 04:54.22 | karl_w_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:54.45 | kd3 | eve no jikan (absolutely not related to kodomo no jikan) is sci-fi, but no mechs |
| 04:54.53 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 04:54.58 | Mr_Rabies | no jikan just means "time of" |
| 04:55.02 | Mr_Rabies | so you'll see it sometimes |
| 04:55.20 | kd3 | I've had to put that disclaimer in more than once when talking about it |
| 04:55.22 | kd3 | >.> |
| 04:55.37 | kd3 | I'd suggest full metal panic!, but you said no mechs |
| 04:55.41 | Mr_Rabies | here's a pretty decent trailer for berserk even though it's dubbed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNZkJFJacTM |
| 04:55.50 | Mr_Rabies | full metal panic is amazing, though the first season is kinda lacking |
| 04:55.53 | Mr_Rabies | season 2 is so much better |
| 04:56.10 | Mr_Rabies | they almost literally resurrected a gundam antagonist for Season 2 |
| 04:56.25 | Mr_Rabies | the main antagonist of S2 is basically Yazan Gable from Zeta Gundam, even down to the same voice actor |
| 04:57.10 | kd3 | the seven 'kara no kyoukai: the garden of sinners' movies are thriller/psychohorrorish. in the same "nasuverse" as fate/stay night et al |
| 04:57.14 | kd3 | uhm |
| 04:57.25 | kd3 | keeps scrolling down his list at anidb... |
| 04:57.31 | karl_w_w | what about this fate/zero i keep hearing about? |
| 04:58.19 | Mr_Rabies | it's a part of a pretty big multimedia franchise at this point |
| 04:58.22 | kd3 | it's a prequel to f/sn. |
| 04:58.23 | karl_w_w | and should i watch /stay night first? |
| 04:58.28 | Mr_Rabies | it's fantasy, sorta |
| 04:58.55 | Mr_Rabies | another show based on a porn game, but they have excised the porn elements pretty thoroughly from it |
| 04:58.57 | kd3 | you can watch them in either order. fs/n came out years before f/zero, but knowing what happens in the latter doesn't affect the former |
| 04:59.12 | Mr_Rabies | you can only guess how they regen mana in the original story, much like moon guard's goldshire |
| 04:59.32 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 04:59.42 | Mr_Rabies | fantasy's kinda weird in japan because it's such a european thing |
| 04:59.47 | Mr_Rabies | their fantasy is like, segoku period |
| 04:59.52 | Mr_Rabies | sengoku* |
| 04:59.57 | Mr_Rabies | which...sengoku basara is amazing |
| 05:00.08 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdSTI3Vnyhk |
| 05:00.18 | kd3 | something a bit different from what has been suggested so far is "Detroit Metal City". more parody than serious, but downright awesome |
| 05:00.46 | Mr_Rabies | Sengoku Barara isn't exactly about storytelling, though |
| 05:00.59 | Mr_Rabies | for example: date masamune's horse has handlebars and exhaust pipes on it |
| 05:01.15 | Mr_Rabies | and he says PUT YA GUNS ON seconds into the show, before a battle |
| 05:01.16 | kd3 | long url warning. here's everything I've seen to completion that I've marked as such on anidb, sorted by average rating |
| 05:01.26 | Mr_Rabies | Detroit Metal City is really, really good |
| 05:01.29 | kd3 | http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?web=1&watchedpartial=1&watchedcomplete=1&watchedallihave=1&unwatched=1&unknown=1&uid=328655&tvspecial=1&tvseries=1&showunknown=1&showonhdd=1&showoncd=1&showmixed=1&showdeleted=1&show=mylist&ova=1&other=1&orderby.name=1.1&orderby.average=0.2&musicvideo=1&movie=1&liststate.watching=1&liststate.unknown=1&liststate.completed=1&filemode=2&do.update=update |
| 05:01.33 | kd3 | hit next (top right) a few times |
| 05:01.54 | Mr_Rabies | it's limited animation but basically metalocalypse minus the gore and with an actual message/life lesson |
| 05:02.22 | Mr_Rabies | oh oh oh oh oh |
| 05:02.26 | Mr_Rabies | i have a good one, karl_w_w |
| 05:02.32 | Mr_Rabies | Casshern Sins |
| 05:02.54 | kd3 | oh, if you want slice of life set in the 23rd century on mars, the Aria series is good. it's my go-to heartwarming anime when I need a boost |
| 05:03.00 | Mr_Rabies | it's based on an old 70s show, but isn't at all in continuity with it or anything else in the casshern franchise |
| 05:03.14 | Mr_Rabies | i watch spirit-warming series more than heartwarming ones |
| 05:03.44 | Mr_Rabies | like, i watch ones with heroes that overcome all odds to rise above |
| 05:03.54 | Mr_Rabies | casshern sins isn't really heartwarming, it's kind of a downer, but it's awesome nonetheless |
| 05:04.10 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CekDIGxNprE |
| 05:04.20 | Mr_Rabies | oh god aspect ratio |
| 05:05.20 | kd3 | another good sci-fi series (seriously? only a 7.53?) is trigun. came out in the same era as cowboy bebop. it takes a few eps to get going |
| 05:06.01 | Mr_Rabies | i wouldn't even call trigun sci fi really, i mean it sorta is |
| 05:06.12 | kd3 | more space western, I guess |
| 05:06.21 | Mr_Rabies | it does just happen to take place in the future on another planet, but the show itself isn't really about any of those elements |
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| 05:06.29 | Mr_Rabies | the comic has a lot more of that though |
| 05:06.35 | kd3 | failure and redemption |
| 05:06.42 | karl_w_w | thanks guys, I'll have to read up in them and decide what's next. |
| 05:07.02 | Mr_Rabies | i really loved gun x sword, but that's mecha...kinda? |
| 05:07.08 | Mr_Rabies | it's a space western with giant robots |
| 05:10.03 | Mr_Rabies | kd3 are you following Samumenco and/or KLK? |
| 05:10.23 | kd3 | the latter doesn't seem to be saving anime, but at least the recap episode was only 90 seconds long |
| 05:10.33 | kd3 | I never got in to the former, but I should considering everybody keeps talking about it |
| 05:11.34 | Mr_Rabies | i personally love KLK, it's one of my favorite shows of the decade |
| 05:11.48 | Mr_Rabies | samurai flamenco's really good but it's almost impossible to explain |
| 05:12.02 | kd3 | it's been good, don't get me wrong, but the hype backlash has been *INTENSE* |
| 05:12.10 | Mr_Rabies | just stick with it, and let it take you for a ride through its story |
| 05:13.13 | Mr_Rabies | and the animation is certainly anything but sakuga for the most part |
| 05:13.40 | Mr_Rabies | it tends to have a lot of limited animation but it has bits and pieces of really good animation |
| 05:21.51 | Mr_Rabies | i think this scene in KLK has more frames of animation than the last 5 episodes of samurai flamenco, but i still love it http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/400bd4af2993661a3d4c1dcbf08d5fa3.gif |
| 05:27.30 | Arrowmaster | karl_w_w: one they havent mentioned yet and should have is Planetes |
| 05:30.39 | Arrowmaster | kd3: what the hell man, Planetes isnt on your watched list????? |
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| 05:32.37 | Mr_Rabies | i haven't seen it yet despite it being up my alley |
| 05:32.50 | Mr_Rabies | i actually randomly have one of the dvds |
| 05:33.40 | Mr_Rabies | got it for like $1 at some store that sells stuff that didn't sell the first time |
| 05:33.42 | Arrowmaster | i want the bluray but when they finally released it they didnt make nearly enough so its ungodly expensive |
| 05:34.11 | Arrowmaster | something like $400 for a 26 episode show |
| 05:35.11 | Mr_Rabies | a lot of that has to do with who licensed it |
| 05:35.11 | Arrowmaster | $450 on amazon http://amzn.com/B0021ZMHTE |
| 05:35.16 | Mr_Rabies | i'm gonna go with aniplex or bandai |
| 05:35.17 | Mr_Rabies | lets see |
| 05:35.45 | Arrowmaster | thats the japanese bluray |
| 05:36.00 | Mr_Rabies | ah |
| 05:36.02 | Arrowmaster | no US bluray |
| 05:36.06 | Mr_Rabies | that's normal price for japanese BDs |
| 05:36.26 | Mr_Rabies | zeta gundam costs like $1000 or so for the full 40something episode series |
| 05:36.39 | Mr_Rabies | same with its sequel ZZ gundam |
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| 05:37.03 | Mr_Rabies | legend of the galactic heroes is like $1500 for 110 episodes |
| 05:37.23 | Mr_Rabies | oh man that reminds me karl_w_w |
| 05:37.42 | Mr_Rabies | idea if you wanna watch an amazing space opera: Crest of the Stars |
| 05:37.51 | Mr_Rabies | it's not very actiony and is super heavy on story |
| 05:38.42 | Mr_Rabies | the writer or...someone created a language for the show for the Abh (read: space elves....kinda?) to speak |
| 05:41.36 | Kraps | The "unspecified" problem is that you don't want your design meetings to become adversarial. In general that's a hard thing to prevent any time you have different people working on competing things, and for purposes of class balance the classes count as competitors, so what do you do when the Warlock Guy and the Mage Guy get into a loud argument? |
| 05:41.38 | Kraps | The answer is not to have a Warlock Guy or a Mage Guy, as much as possible. |
| 05:46.12 | Mr_Rabies | what's that quoting, Kraps? |
| 05:46.34 | Kraps | post on somethingawful |
| 05:46.57 | Kraps | makes sense to me i guess |
| 05:47.42 | Mr_Rabies | 100% agreed |
| 05:47.57 | Mr_Rabies | it's not a good way to achieve balance |
| 05:49.13 | Mr_Rabies | mind linking it, kraps? interested to read the rest of the thread in context |
| 05:49.32 | Mr_Rabies | i don't go to the goon squad forum much since it was moved 1000 subforums in |
| 05:50.10 | Kraps | http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=1&threadid=3583397&perpage=40&pagenumber=17#post421655178 |
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| 07:15.24 | Semlar | is there anything useful you can do with the guid of an object like a hunter trap |
| 07:15.43 | bluspacecow | put a ring on it |
| 07:16.01 | Semlar | licks bluespacecow |
| 07:17.04 | Semlar | i tried making a tooltip out of it with unit:guid but that didn't work |
| 07:17.34 | Semlar | can't imagine why it would have a tooltip |
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| 07:36.03 | zenzio | "we're gonna get that damn ice down" - http://fvn.mnocdn.no/siste_artikler/article2548396.ece/ALTERNATES/w380c169/rostad.jpg |
| 07:53.00 | Neffi | I really dont think so Semlar |
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| 08:01.11 | Shirik | kd3: What crap? |
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| 08:22.26 | Cairenn | http://www.blastr.com/2014-1-9/us-navy-document-asks-what-would-captain-kirk-purchase |
| 08:25.53 | zenzio | :-o |
| 08:27.48 | Shirik | Thunder_Child_: http://www.twitch.tv/shirikii/c/3664130 |
| 08:28.38 | znf | heh http://www.policymic.com/articles/81039/something-funny-happened-to-pornhub-traffic-during-the-super-bowl |
| 08:31.08 | amro | Shirik: pong |
| 08:31.14 | Shirik | you are so late |
| 08:31.24 | Shirik | you were supposed to join Cide and me for some DOTA 2 |
| 08:31.26 | amro | hey the one night I go to bed early |
| 08:33.30 | Shirik | amro: we actually did fairly well |
| 08:33.39 | Shirik | also I found an interesting hero I might play more of! |
| 08:33.40 | amro | did you go puck again? |
| 08:33.43 | Shirik | I have no idea who it was |
| 08:33.53 | Shirik | it was a dragon that breathes fire and ice |
| 08:33.56 | amro | jakiro |
| 08:33.58 | Shirik | yes |
| 08:34.03 | amro | he's awesome |
| 08:34.05 | Shirik | he's fun |
| 08:34.13 | Shirik | we played captains mode |
| 08:34.22 | Shirik | and my mind is still exploding about how that work |
| 08:34.30 | Shirik | one person picking all heroes seems crazy |
| 08:34.47 | amro | anything other than captain's mode is crazy :P |
| 08:34.52 | amro | for serious play at least |
| 08:35.18 | Shirik | I just am amazed that one person picks everything |
| 08:35.18 | amro | there are too many broken / situationally broken heroes for all pick to work |
| 08:35.25 | Shirik | sure |
| 08:35.28 | Shirik | it's the same in lol |
| 08:35.33 | Shirik | except that in lol you actually pick your champion |
| 08:36.00 | amro | nothing's stopping you from telling your captain what you want =) |
| 08:36.08 | amro | but typically drafting should be left to someone who knows how to draft |
| 08:37.29 | Shirik | but then I get assigned some hero I've never heard of |
| 08:37.41 | Shirik | in lol's system at least I'm guaranteed I can pick someone I know how to play |
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| 08:48.09 | amro | Shirik: well it only works if you know how to play a role |
| 08:48.15 | amro | ie, you can play any hero that fits a given role |
| 08:48.24 | amro | then you just announce your role and you can play whatever |
| 08:48.39 | amro | roles being carry, support, mid, offlane |
| 08:48.44 | Shirik | that's basically what happens in lol |
| 08:48.54 | Shirik | the team agrees on what roles they're picking and then the picks are made |
| 08:49.13 | amro | but there's a lot more to worry about in dota, such as synergy and deny picks |
| 08:49.23 | amro | sometimes you pick a hero just so the other assholes don't get him |
| 08:49.26 | Shirik | synergy is still important in lol |
| 08:49.40 | Shirik | you just expect the team to know how to pick |
| 08:49.45 | amro | also counter picks |
| 08:49.48 | amro | but how does picking work then? |
| 08:49.50 | amro | is it turn based? |
| 08:49.53 | Shirik | yes |
| 08:50.12 | Shirik | one player picks first, then the other team gets two, then the first team gets two, etc. |
| 08:50.13 | amro | oh, then it's the same thing. the difference is purely mechanical |
| 08:50.23 | Shirik | yes |
| 08:50.41 | Shirik | assuming the captain actually cares enough to listen to what champions you can play |
| 08:50.55 | Shirik | like in my 2 games of experience neither captain bothered to ask what anyone wants to play |
| 08:50.56 | Shirik | theyj ust pick |
| 08:51.08 | Shirik | that's mind-blowing to me |
| 08:51.09 | amro | sounds about right |
| 08:51.28 | amro | if there are many heroes you can't play you really shouldn't be in CM |
| 08:51.35 | Shirik | there are like 15 mid champions in lol |
| 08:51.40 | Shirik | you know how many I can play? 3 |
| 08:51.51 | krka_ | amro: get back to work! |
| 08:52.08 | Shirik | I don't remember the last time I saw krka speak o.o |
| 08:52.14 | amro | krka: I'm eating breakfast! |
| 08:52.21 | krka | fine |
| 08:52.46 | Shirik | also, amro, today I learned something new |
| 08:52.53 | Shirik | lol has a very important feature dota 2 doesn't have |
| 08:52.58 | Shirik | a third dimension |
| 08:53.12 | Shirik | http://www.twitch.tv/shirikii/c/3664130 |
| 08:53.22 | krka | yeah i haven't written much lua or played wow lately |
| 08:54.39 | amro | that looks broken |
| 08:54.43 | amro | want! |
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| 09:26.59 | karl_w_w | if your captain isnt listening to what his team can play he shouldnt be the captain |
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| 10:35.10 | phelps | is it possible to know if a SPELL_PERIODIC_HEAL is from the same cast ? |
| 10:45.26 | karl_w_w | if it's from a buff track the buffs |
| 10:45.41 | karl_w_w | if it's from some environmental thing like healing rain i dont think so |
| 10:47.02 | karl_w_w | does healing rain apply a buff? i dont even remember now |
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| 10:55.36 | karl_w_w | you can probably do it with anything actuallty |
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| 11:02.28 | zenzio | so apparently there's an update available for eREADZ on my phone. I don't recall downloading that, so I open Play to see... first comment: "System app? How much did these fuckers pay to get this non sytem crap on my system as a system app?" |
| 11:03.02 | zenzio | along with the other silly system apps, I'm sorely tempted to make the small effort to replace it with cyanogen |
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| 11:11.43 | Icicle | iirc healing rain does apply a buff |
| 11:11.51 | Icicle | I remember a little blue icon with chicken wings anyhow |
| 11:17.25 | phelps | zenzio: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/01/south-korea-bans-unremovable-mobile-bloatware/ |
| 11:17.46 | phelps | kinda related |
| 11:18.37 | zenzio | now if only the EU and US would follow suit |
| 11:18.46 | phelps | never gonna happen |
| 11:20.35 | zenzio | sadly, true |
| 11:21.10 | karl_w_w | which is why nexus |
| 11:26.46 | zenzio | if only it'd been available here when I was buying a new phone |
| 11:29.41 | Workfoz | karl_w_w: which is going to be discontinued :( |
| 11:30.03 | Workfoz | (not that Google Play Editions are known for their bloatware content...) |
| 11:33.42 | karl_w_w | eh, portable telephones will be redundant once oculus rift comes out and nobody leaves their house any more |
| 11:36.49 | karl_w_w | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/131896-Invade-the-Game-of-Thrones-Universe-With-Oculus-Rift-Technology omgosh |
| 11:38.37 | karl_w_w | the more people do stuff with oculus rift, the better for everyone |
| 11:39.56 | karl_w_w | all that, and a toilet |
| 11:39.57 | nevcairiel | Workfoz: i hope the push for google play editions to be available in more countries before nexus goes bye-bye |
| 11:40.03 | nevcairiel | I dont think we can get them here |
| 11:40.06 | nevcairiel | right now |
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| 12:10.28 | jleclanche | fuck, mozilla has 36 pages of github repositories |
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| 12:44.46 | zenzio | http://www.funsted.com/post/2292 |
| 12:46.51 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: I'd assume they're going to at least make them available where Nexus was available, everything else would be a shame |
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| 12:52.51 | rot | hello, any idea why a fontstring is not hiding, with fs:Hide()? |
| 12:54.01 | rot | the fs should hide when I mouseover the frame containing it, so the fs:Hide() is inside an OnEnter handler... |
| 12:54.43 | rot | well, the truth is that the fs should change its content really. |
| 12:55.03 | rot | I can change the content, but OnEnter, the "old" content is still there, under the "new" fs |
| 12:55.29 | rot | ...so I simply tried to Hide() it on OnEnter, and it's not hiding :P |
| 12:58.42 | zenzio | did you try placing a message() or something inside the OnEnter to make certain it runs? |
| 12:59.30 | rot | I'm sure it runs....it actually unhide another fontstring |
| 13:00.00 | rot | and OnLeave, will hide this fs |
| 13:00.17 | rot | basically, OnEnter, will change fs1 and show fs2 |
| 13:00.29 | rot | OnLeave will change fs1 back and hide fs2 |
| 13:01.11 | rot | everything works....but fs1 "old" content isn't changing |
| 13:01.37 | rot | so OnEnter, I have old-fs1-content + new-fs1-content |
| 13:01.46 | zenzio | put the relevant code on pastebin so we can see if there's anything obvious |
| 13:01.49 | rot | ...and all I do, is a SetText |
| 13:01.58 | rot | gimme a moment |
| 13:04.34 | rot | http://cpaste.org/pidbfkgco |
| 13:06.57 | zenzio | you shouldn't be using "this" anymore (unless it's a variable you have created yourself) |
| 13:07.05 | zenzio | but I don't think that's relevant in this case |
| 13:07.25 | nevcairiel | hm didnt this stop functioning |
| 13:07.32 | zenzio | I thought so |
| 13:07.42 | rot | what? |
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| 13:08.00 | zenzio | "this" was supposed to be removed several expansions ago I think |
| 13:08.34 | nevcairiel | what we usually do is rename it "self" and add it to the parameter list, ie: http://cpaste.org/pxvhumzue |
| 13:08.46 | zenzio | rot: line 5, you're missing a ")" after "Show(" |
| 13:09.04 | rot | let me try |
| 13:09.10 | alestane | The global arguments for handlers have certainly been deprecated since Lich King, if not BC. |
| 13:09.20 | nevcairiel | deprecated yes, but removed? |
| 13:09.22 | nevcairiel | i thought they had |
| 13:11.39 | rot | ok, the catch is....I'm working on 1.12.1 API....is that a problem? |
| 13:12.03 | zenzio | in this channel it is |
| 13:12.10 | zenzio | we don't support private servers |
| 13:12.24 | zenzio | but even so, I think your problem is just the missing ")" |
| 13:12.43 | rot | :( it's almost 8 years.... |
| 13:13.11 | rot | and if I must tell the truth...I believe wow changed too much for my taste... |
| 13:13.32 | zenzio | it's just not something we discuss in here |
| 13:13.38 | g0urra | you prefer the endless grind? |
| 13:13.53 | rot | g0urra no, I prefer a RPG |
| 13:14.06 | rot | I prefer something that's actually "challenging" |
| 13:14.28 | rot | but again, even this would be offtopic, here, I believe...sorry |
| 13:14.45 | g0urra | oh you've done all bosses on heroics? have the best gear from arena/rated BG? yeah must be no challenges left |
| 13:14.52 | g0urra | but you're right, that's not for this channel |
| 13:15.23 | rot | g0urra that's a matter of taste, isn't it? |
| 13:15.51 | g0urra | challenge is subjective and blizard can't cater to all. |
| 13:16.20 | rot | my idea is that Blizzard is catering for the "masses" |
| 13:16.39 | g0urra | yeah, not for a special snowflake for you that finds a "challenge" on private servers |
| 13:16.39 | rot | and they spoiled their game so much during every patch |
| 13:17.17 | rot | I stopped playing on retail at early wotlk...cause I couldn't stand topping meters with a gorilla and volley.... |
| 13:17.26 | rot | I couldn't stand grinding 40 daily quests every day |
| 13:17.35 | rot | I couldn't stand arena-loggers |
| 13:17.50 | rot | and I've been "without" wow till recently |
| 13:17.57 | g0urra | and what can you stand now? the "challenge" of clearing MC solo? |
| 13:18.05 | rot | solo? |
| 13:18.20 | rot | 40men raids |
| 13:18.36 | zenzio | well, fighting over the reasons for using a private server doesn't matter; it's just not something we allow here. Don't let Cairenn catch you |
| 13:19.18 | rot | well, I'm really sorry. I won't |
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| 14:30.15 | Breagha | pokes the chat to see if it's ticklish |
| 14:31.36 | mitch0 | it's not |
| 14:31.43 | Breagha | Clearly... :( |
| 14:33.43 | Breagha | If I create a frame, and then unhook it from its parent, is it then gone? Or is it still floating around in nowhere land? |
| 14:34.28 | zenzio | how would you "unhook" it? |
| 14:34.54 | Breagha | f:SetParent(nil) |
| 14:35.17 | zenzio | I don't think it would change anything (apart from obviously now not having a parent) |
| 14:35.35 | zenzio | it'd still be anchored where it was and so on; is my understanding |
| 14:36.02 | Breagha | *nodnods* |
| 14:36.15 | Breagha | So no way to kill a frame, then... |
| 14:36.55 | zenzio | correct, frames never go away (apart from on reloads) |
| 14:37.05 | Breagha | *nodnods* |
| 14:37.09 | nevcairiel | you can hide them and forget about them, thats all |
| 14:37.18 | zenzio | much like homework |
| 14:41.37 | Breagha | Hehehe |
| 14:43.07 | mikma | http://youtu.be/W9DST-6jIBU |
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| 15:02.14 | zenzio | "More recently, a wrinkle in the space-time continuum resulted in one of our automated systems sending out warning messages four months after the anomalous situation was detected" |
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| 15:45.25 | jleclanche | holy crap |
| 15:45.28 | jleclanche | i was looking at kindles |
| 15:45.48 | jleclanche | the only difference between the Paperwhite and Paperwhite 3G is the 3g radio, and its worth 60 gbp? (100 usd) |
| 15:46.09 | Neffi | It's worth what you'll pay for it |
| 15:46.18 | jleclanche | im not actually buying any |
| 15:46.26 | jleclanche | but is a 3g radio really that expensive? |
| 15:46.43 | Neffi | they probably buy the radios for like $.50 a piece |
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| 15:47.11 | Neffi | Hell, the non-3G model might actually have a 3G radio in it that's been disabled, so they only have to manufacturer one model |
| 15:47.28 | Neffi | -r* |
| 15:47.31 | nevcairiel | whats so pricy is probably that you get no-charge 3g SIM with it, which i believe even works internationally |
| 15:48.06 | nevcairiel | the radio wont be expensive |
| 15:48.37 | nevcairiel | its not like you have to put a SIM in there or something, it just works by itself on 3G |
| 15:51.30 | Neffi | "Transfer aborted: cross-realm zone is down" |
| 15:51.30 | Neffi | =( |
| 15:56.56 | Workfoz | what nev said |
| 15:59.58 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: ah yeah of course, the contract |
| 16:00.33 | jleclanche | if neffi is right though that would be interesting |
| 16:00.52 | jleclanche | if there is a theoretical 3g radio that could be enabled in the other model |
| 16:00.56 | nevcairiel | its not unlikely, depending on the complexity |
| 16:01.12 | nevcairiel | it wont have a functioning SIM though |
| 16:01.22 | jleclanche | thats not an issue tho :P |
| 16:01.48 | nevcairiel | or they may even cut the connection to it to make sure (which is still easier then producing a different device entirely) |
| 16:02.15 | nevcairiel | may have regulatory reasons to cut off the radio on a hardware level |
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| 16:03.42 | nevcairiel | in any case i'm sure someone might have peeked into it already |
| 16:03.50 | jleclanche | ya |
| 16:06.54 | Workfoz | ask the Googleizer |
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| 16:13.20 | Fisker | Oh you look like a pile of skin Lopeppeppy |
| 16:13.24 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
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| 16:16.08 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/Jwp5NBT |
| 16:16.38 | Neffi | Does TB not have a guild bank? |
| 16:17.35 | alestane | It does, although I don't recall exactly where. |
| 16:17.46 | alestane | Possibly in front fo the bank. |
| 16:17.57 | Semlar | it's a totem |
| 16:17.58 | Lopeppeppy | dances with alestane. |
| 16:18.13 | alestane | Oh hello, Peppy. Is your tooth better? |
| 16:18.43 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, it is not. I see my firstest dentist today, and I hope he gives me drugs. Tomorrow is snowpocalypse, so I hope to have it yanked on Thursday. |
| 16:19.05 | Lopeppeppy | It is an unwisdom tooth. It just has to go. |
| 16:19.38 | alestane | The dentists spent years asking me if my half-impacted lower third molars bothered me. |
| 16:20.07 | alestane | Then they developed a bit of decay, and the dentist said that they *could* be filled, but really it would make more sense just to take them out. |
| 16:21.01 | Lopeppeppy | It broke. It's going. And it's mate on the other side too, most likely. |
| 16:23.15 | karl_w_w | casper the friendly tooth |
| 16:23.34 | alestane | I would lift the pain away with sticky gecko fingers. But you, know, not there. |
| 16:25.01 | Lopeppeppy | My mouth is not used to fingers shoved that far back in it. I would bite. |
| 16:27.03 | Fisker | :( |
| 16:27.19 | Fisker | Your firstest dentist what do you mean Lopeppeppy? |
| 16:27.22 | Fisker | also jerk move |
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| 16:35.50 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: first dentist? |
| 16:35.51 | Lopeppeppy | That's how it works around these parts, Fisker. I have to go to my general doctor and then get referred onward if it's a problem s/he can't handle. Even if we all know very well that s/he can't. |
| 16:36.07 | Fisker | So like |
| 16:36.13 | Fisker | your first dentist appointment ever? |
| 16:38.05 | Lopeppeppy | No, no no. Like the last dentist was a fucktard and I had to leave because she was murdering me. So I haven't gone in like 3 years because I was afraid of puking on their shoes. So this is a new dental practice for me to introduce myself to. |
| 16:39.45 | karl_w_w | nobody laughed at my casper joke :( It must be because nobody got it, because the joke was hilarious |
| 16:41.40 | karl_w_w | you see peppy said its mate on the other side, and casper the friendly ghost is a mate on the other side, but she was talking about teeth so I changed ghost to tooth to make casper the friendly tooth. get it? too funny right |
| 16:47.15 | mikma | karl_w_w: cause casper is dead, you bastard |
| 16:51.12 | Fisker | oh ok Lopeppeppy |
| 16:51.15 | Fisker | Yay |
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| 17:07.03 | Lopeppeppy | Well, it would be more yay if it didn't hurt, but yeah. Funtimes. |
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| 17:26.42 | Fisker | yeah true |
| 17:26.54 | Fisker | but at least it'll be a better dentist |
| 17:27.21 | Amarande | hmm, wasn't that profession outlawed by the Geneva Convention as a form of torture? :) |
| 17:32.56 | Fisker | Not when you pay for it |
| 17:34.02 | Neffi | karl_w_w: Around here, "mate" means somebody you perform coitus with |
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| 17:44.28 | Lopeppeppy | I am dubious, Fisker. |
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| 17:47.11 | Amarande | blah, I see the freenode instabilities have not gone away since the weekend :| |
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| 18:01.31 | karl_w_w | are you coming on to me, Neffi? |
| 18:01.31 | Dagmar | The script kiddies responsible truly have no friends at all |
| 18:02.20 | karl_w_w | doesn't that make you sad for them dagmar? |
| 18:02.36 | Dagmar | Nope. |
| 18:08.34 | Amarande | Dagmar: most likely, given that they were even doing it during the Super Bowl LOL |
| 18:08.56 | Amarande | actually, at first I began to wonder if it was even the net neutrality ruling taking effect, but then it continued after Sunday so it wasn't that :S |
| 18:09.13 | Shirik | Woah |
| 18:09.39 | Shirik | TIL my ski season pass tells me how much I've skiied vertically this year |
| 18:09.52 | Shirik | apparently they track what lifts you've taken and give you a total number of feet |
| 18:10.34 | TC-Work | Neffi: It shouldnt. |
| 18:12.37 | Amarande | Shirik: heh, what is it, some sort of health meter thing designed to ensure you don't get exposed to too many g-forces in a given amount of time? |
| 18:13.08 | Amarande | btw, what are you thinking about the H.264 row on wiki? |
| 18:23.37 | Shirik | Amarande: I don't understand your question |
| 18:23.45 | Shirik | the fact that they're going to allow H.264 videos? |
| 18:24.01 | Amarande | Shirik: the debate as to whether to allow patent-encumbered video or not |
| 18:24.15 | Amarande | From what I read, the RFC's supposed to be open until the 14th |
| 18:24.17 | nevcairiel | Claiming that any video codec is patent free is just misguided |
| 18:24.20 | Shirik | I don't particularly care; honestly I think video isn't extremely useful for Wikipedia |
| 18:30.17 | Neffi | karl_w_w: maybe |
| 18:50.18 | kd3 | Shirik , re the earlier ping. we just had two random, apparently innocuous pdfs get uploaded to the wiki |
| 18:50.49 | kd3 | at this point, my guess is they were trying to take advantage of the remote code execution vuln in pdf/djvu files |
| 18:54.32 | Amarande | kd3: joy, another drive the titanic thru it hole in acrobat reader? |
| 18:54.49 | kd3 | nah, more a mediawiki vulnerability |
| 18:55.43 | Amarande | ah, they're trying to hack the server, not browsers :| |
| 18:56.59 | kd3 | but speaking of vulnerabilities, whee. an active flash zero-day is on the loose |
| 18:58.31 | karl_w_w | http://i.4cdn.org/b/src/1391539277009.gif |
| 18:58.36 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 19:00.32 | Neffi | I dont understand how you make it to the store if you're that drunk |
| 19:02.46 | mikma | karl_w_w: the floor is jello |
| 19:05.02 | TC-Work | Neffi: Maybe he is physically disabled not drunk. |
| 19:06.10 | Neffi | If he's got a disability of that magnitude, why is he standing up in an aisle trying to buy a drink? He should have assistance, or be in a wheelchair |
| 19:11.12 | Dagmar | The image makes much more sense canted at that angle |
| 19:12.47 | Dagmar | His reaction speed always made me wonder if he didn't just have an inner ear infection |
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| 19:31.58 | Ackis | which is safer from a code perspective: if (typeof w === 'undefined') w = 750; w = w || 750; (jscript) I'm thinking the typeof but I don't know enough to be sure of that |
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| 19:50.10 | zenzelezz | jscript or javascript? |
| 19:50.45 | Dashkal | Ackis: Those have differing semantics. The former will default w to 750 iff w happens to be undefined. The latter will default w to 750 if it's undefined, zero, or any of the other "false" values for various types. |
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| 20:02.22 | Ackis | zenzelezz: jscript and Dashkal didn't consider that at all |
| 20:09.57 | kd3 | wow. loot and a successful bonus roll from celestials and ordos |
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| 21:29.28 | Esamynn|work | kd3: I was feeling lucky on my Shaman last night... had a pair of 502 weapons... killed Klaxxi in Flex, got axe, rolled, got another axe! =D |
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| 22:06.17 | Primer | Esamynn|work: I had that happen on my DK on Noroushen. It was a great feeling |
| 22:06.31 | Primer | 2 one handers |
| 22:06.36 | Primer | but it was LFR |
| 22:06.57 | Primer | but his DPS weapons were from Cata, so it was all good |
| 22:07.07 | Esamynn|work | ha! |
| 22:07.13 | Esamynn|work | that would be a big upgrade |
| 22:07.17 | Neffi | Aren't quest greens or random world greens better than Cata weaps? |
| 22:07.17 | Primer | plus factor in that DKs enchant their own weapons and it's nothing but iwn |
| 22:07.19 | Primer | win |
| 22:07.25 | Primer | I leveled as a tank |
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| 22:07.32 | Primer | and the only other weapons I had were two handers |
| 22:07.37 | Neffi | Could hit up the AH for a random world green drop |
| 22:07.59 | Primer | I only thought about making a viable DPS set after my tank set was complete |
| 22:08.02 | Neffi | Getting some intro crafted daggers was the first thing I did on both my 90 rogues. Ghost something daggers. |
| 22:08.07 | Primer | after being 90 for a while |
| 22:08.15 | Amarande | yeah keep in mind, this is WoW, with its jarring upgrade cycles |
| 22:08.16 | Neffi | Ah, I see |
| 22:08.33 | Amarande | it's not like LOTRO where you can keep the same gear in some slots across multiple expansions LOL |
| 22:08.52 | Amarande | (for serious, I didn't replace the necklace I got in Eregion until I was level 65 and at Mirkwood ...) |
| 22:09.02 | Neffi | Or Skyrim where once I get the Elven perk, the only upgrades I ever need it tempering it again as my smithing levels |
| 22:09.11 | Neffi | s/it/is/ |
| 22:09.29 | Amarande | I'm still shaking my head that there is apparently not a single neckpiece upgrade for Will classes whatsoever in solo questing in Moria |
| 22:09.41 | Amarande | There were plenty I saw for Might and Agility classes, but not a one for Will |
| 22:09.44 | Neffi | Then again part of my playthrough is refusing to use enchants, because they're too damned OP in Skyrim |
| 22:10.03 | Amarande | That'd be like WoW not giving you a single upgrade for your last expansion Int neckpiece till heroics, LOL |
| 22:10.14 | Neffi | That's why WoW is a better game |
| 22:10.40 | Amarande | On the other hand, LOTRO gear follows a much smoother upgrade path, rather than the jarring "gear resets" of WoW |
| 22:10.55 | Mr_Rabies | that's boring imo |
| 22:10.57 | Mr_Rabies | but to each his own |
| 22:11.04 | Neffi | Gear resets make sense at expansion lines, for a game hinged around stark vertical progression |
| 22:11.05 | Mr_Rabies | i hate not getting upgrades for extended periods of time |
| 22:11.33 | Mr_Rabies | when i'm raiding and i don't upgrade a piece for a few months it's frustratin |
| 22:11.44 | Mr_Rabies | especially when it's a weapon or something |
| 22:11.52 | Amarande | although I'm hearing I'll get a pretty big jump when I actually hit Dunland and get real level 66+ rewards |
| 22:12.03 | Neffi | I admit it's not my favorite system. I'd favor horizontal progression if I were to make an MMO. But it does work very well, and WoW implements it very well |
| 22:12.08 | Amarande | so it's perhaps more of a matter that mob power upgrades itself on a fairly smooth curve over levels, at least for solo leveling |
| 22:12.34 | Amarande | there's less pressure to make the gear jump, and if one does happen, it's just a matter of "yay, moar powar" rather than just keeping up |
| 22:12.40 | Mr_Rabies | i think an MMO is the most important game genre to have wow's style of exponential progression |
| 22:13.00 | Amarande | unlike, say, when BC was current, and you took your first steps into Outland and often had your ass kicked by the marked upgrade in mob power |
| 22:13.00 | Neffi | Mr_Rabies: I'd have to disgree |
| 22:13.18 | Mr_Rabies | i'd prefer removing traditional stats from items on most non-MMO RPGs, but they're important for a longterm game experience |
| 22:13.21 | Neffi | I think anything can work. I just think it's hugely unlikely to work in the post-WoW landscape |
| 22:13.22 | Amarande | or Northrend or especially Cata, I think I first *really* started to notice it with Northrend and Cata was just jarring |
| 22:13.34 | Neffi | Everyone either copies WoW or doesn't match up to WoW |
| 22:13.52 | Amarande | e.g., 68-72 Northrend mobs were WAY stronger than 68-72 Outland mobs |
| 22:13.59 | Neffi | Given some time to mature, I think the genre could see a lot of mechanics that the current players would never accept |
| 22:14.00 | Mr_Rabies | that sounds immensely boring, Amarande |
| 22:14.02 | Amarande | and 80 mobs in Hyjal or Vashj'ir were practically like elites compared to 80 mobs in Northrend |
| 22:14.38 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: keep in mind though that LOTRO especially focuses far more on world and story than it does on raw power playing |
| 22:14.53 | Mr_Rabies | 99% of the fun in the MMO is overcoming the difficulty curve |
| 22:15.02 | Amarande | to the point that even raiding is largely parallel to the main storyline |
| 22:15.06 | Mr_Rabies | in an MMO* |
| 22:15.16 | Amarande | it's there for challenge and shinies, but it's basically never required for the actual epic |
| 22:15.38 | Mr_Rabies | the point is that the curve steadily (though sometimes with abrupt jumps if you're behind) increases and you're forced to meet it |
| 22:16.09 | Amarande | whereas in WoW, you basically have to raid to best experience the storyline firsthand, and in fact the storyline itself is basically designed to push you to raiding :) |
| 22:16.25 | Mr_Rabies | but i don't really play games for the story, despite being a huge lore nerd in WoW |
| 22:16.33 | Mr_Rabies | first and foremost is gameplay for me |
| 22:16.53 | Amarande | also, come to think of it, perhaps you do perhaps make fairly big jumps in your gear in LOTRO, but it isn't as noticeable as in WoW |
| 22:16.53 | Mr_Rabies | if all i cared about was story i wouldn't choose to partake in an interactive experience |
| 22:17.01 | Amarande | mostly because you do it to different slots at different times, generally |
| 22:17.07 | Mr_Rabies | i'd just read a book or watch a movie or tv show |
| 22:17.19 | Amarande | unlike WoW where it's "okay, new expansion, go collect your gear upgrade set from the starting zone nao, there you go" |
| 22:17.51 | Mr_Rabies | that's sort of necessary though so that heroic raiders aren't literally just oneshotting everything until they're at level cap again |
| 22:18.07 | Mr_Rabies | to be honest, i didn't replace anything but my weapon until 89 on my main for MoP |
| 22:18.10 | Amarande | in LOTRO it's usually a while between each slot's upgrades so you do get a nice upgrade each time you do get one (unless you've been obsessively crafting new gear sets at every level, then it's going to feel like a slower progression of course) |
| 22:18.33 | Mr_Rabies | the heroic gear from DS was more powerful than anything i got while leveling for the most part |
| 22:18.38 | Amarande | but there's rarely if ever any noticeable point (except maybe 65 with the Malledhrim crafted set) where you really upgrade several slots simultaneously |
| 22:18.42 | Mr_Rabies | with gems, etc |
| 22:18.55 | Mr_Rabies | i had crap for stamina but that was okay |
| 22:18.59 | Mr_Rabies | i still murdered everything |
| 22:19.12 | Mr_Rabies | i died maybe 5 times while leveling total, if even |
| 22:19.42 | Gnarfoz | sounds pretty much normal. close to level cap, blue items start to be better than previous epics |
| 22:20.03 | Mr_Rabies | it honestly was kinda crappy imo |
| 22:20.08 | Mr_Rabies | i hated not getting any power increases |
| 22:20.18 | Mr_Rabies | it felt like i got weaker as i leveled through MoP until level 89 |
| 22:20.28 | Amarande | that's because you did, actually |
| 22:20.52 | Amarande | I'm actually pretty sure that you do get gradually weaker during the leveling phase of WoW expansions a lot of the time |
| 22:21.13 | Amarande | due to rating decay and the fact that you don't start to get good-rating gear to really compensate for it till you cap out again and start heroics/raids again |
| 22:22.23 | Kraps | whats this about http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/11538313731 |
| 22:22.29 | Amarande | some of the Mists changes probably don't help in that regard either ... like hit for casters that greatly increased the miss chance until you could start collecting hit gear again (which is mostly at cap) |
| 22:23.29 | Amarande | wow, is there really that much trouble with bots in AV and IoC? |
| 22:23.45 | Amarande | I thought they had a recent event of mass bans for botting :S |
| 22:27.35 | Amarande | mind you, it's been a while since I've played WoW and even longer since I've played AV |
| 22:27.44 | Amarande | And I'm actually foggy off the top of my head if I've even *seen* IoC |
| 22:27.56 | Amarande | did that come out with wrath, or cata? |
| 22:31.12 | Ermad | I came out with the Trial of the Crusader patch in WotLK |
| 22:31.16 | Ermad | it* |
| 22:32.32 | Amarande | ah ... yeah, I don't think I ever actually got around to doing IoC |
| 22:32.49 | Amarande | back then you had to queue for BGs specifically, IIRC |
| 22:33.13 | Amarande | and by the time it got to random BGs being the norm, well, I don't think I've actually queued for a BG since then on a character who's actually high enough level to *do* IoC |
| 22:33.55 | Amarande | I usually find PvP to be a lot more fun on lower levels where it's a chaotic fragfest than at high levels where it's mostly about how many aeons you've spent grinding out points for BiS PvP gear |
| 22:36.03 | Amarande | though at least Blizz has thrown us a bone in terms of how interesting PvP gear is in terms of that now we actually have TWO stats that matter in PvP LOL |
| 22:36.09 | kd3 | damn it! I'm working on a rare, but it kills me. before it resets, my dots kill it off. no loot sparkles, nigh-instant despawn |
| 22:37.00 | Amarande | one thing that always ground my gears about PvP gear from BC onward was that it seemed like most stats just didn't matter at all. it's just "how much resil do you have?" and everything else, well, doesn't count heh |
| 22:38.42 | Amarande | kd3: achievement credit, or no? |
| 22:39.23 | kd3 | nein |
| 22:45.41 | Esamynn|work | d'oh |
| 22:45.57 | nevcairiel | that'll teach you to die to a rare |
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| 23:54.40 | Kraps | I'M INSTALLING WOW |
| 23:55.21 | Neffi | why would you do that? |
| 23:55.43 | Kraps | BECAUSE |
| 23:56.01 | Esamynn|work | WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING? |
| 23:56.30 | Kraps | idk i'm excited |
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| 23:57.37 | Esamynn|work | ~lart Kraps |
| 23:57.37 | purl | gives Kraps a good seeing to |
| 23:57.53 | Kraps | no pls |
| 23:58.40 | Kraps | i should probably uninstall D3 |
| 23:59.06 | Kraps | not gonna play it until at least the expac release |
