| 00:07.54 | Amarande | and for that matter, why are californians okay with say ... which one was it, levi's I think? some big name clothes maker anyway, being in cali and using slave labour in Asia to make products |
| 00:07.58 | Amarande | but Google is somehow vile and evil? |
| 00:08.51 | Amarande | apparently megacorps are okay to them if they make pants, but not tech heh |
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| 00:26.20 | Arrowmaster | playing with a laser thermometer and i got it to read -33°F on the snow and my car window outside |
| 00:37.04 | Primer | turns up the AC |
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| 00:54.18 | znf | So, 500k bans today, heh |
| 00:57.36 | Amarande | znf: hearthstone, D3, or WoW? |
| 00:57.44 | znf | WoW |
| 00:57.47 | znf | rotation bots got hit |
| 00:57.49 | znf | PQR/PE |
| 00:57.58 | znf | (memory patchers, basically) |
| 00:58.00 | Amarande | ... that many WoW players were bots? |
| 00:58.14 | znf | people are reporting half their guilds being banned, lol |
| 00:58.20 | Amarande | that's like ... 1 out of every 10-15 subscribers or so atm, if I recall current estimated sub figures :S |
| 00:58.41 | Amarande | hopefully there isn't something that triggers false alarms for that :| |
| 00:59.37 | znf | I doubt it |
| 00:59.52 | znf | They either monitored memory patches or "keypresses" |
| 01:00.11 | Amarande | unless ... uh oh |
| 01:00.21 | Amarande | hm, is there steamos streaming for wow? I don't think so, but I'm not sure |
| 01:00.35 | znf | doubt it |
| 01:01.12 | Amarande | it just occurred to me if we were possibly seeing the first major example of the problem with steamos's streaming feature that I suggested might happen :S |
| 01:01.23 | znf | http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/world-of-warcraft/world-of-warcraft-bots-programs/458450-official-banwave-22-jan-2014-thread.html |
| 01:01.47 | znf | but it's only a 72H ban so meh |
| 01:02.17 | Amarande | (I'm still wondering if there will be at least one catastrophe related to the streaming feature, in which some or other game issues erroneous mass bans because the interface software that emulates the keypresses on the Windows machine is seen as a bot) |
| 01:02.31 | Neffi | IMO inexusable. should all be permabans |
| 01:02.42 | znf | most of those guys will either 1) stop playing all together (because they have no idea how to play their class) or 2) continue botting and get a perma |
| 01:04.35 | Amarande | znf: and their guilds will dissolve because they suddenly realise their A team is more like a Z team, heh |
| 01:04.46 | znf | probably |
| 01:05.06 | znf | I actually had an old guildie (he moved to a higher-end guild) telling me that half his guild got banned during raid :P |
| 01:05.10 | znf | I laughed hard |
| 01:05.15 | Amarande | kinda like how the Yankees seem to have started to slip into another doldrum phase since the great PED busts |
| 01:05.31 | Amarande | (which, mind you, is just fine with me, I'm a Red Sox fan :P) |
| 01:06.03 | Neffi | ~lart Amarande |
| 01:06.03 | purl | changes Amarande's permissions to 0777 and tells the world |
| 01:06.08 | Amarande | as I like to rub it in to Yankees fans ... 2009 is their next 1962 :) |
| 01:06.31 | Neffi | I actually don't like sports |
| 01:06.52 | Neffi | But I used to be a Yankees fan when I was a kid |
| 01:07.27 | Amarande | I once rooted for the Yankees because it seemed like the thing to do, socially |
| 01:07.42 | Amarande | but I never really felt like a true *fan* and eventually became a Red Sox fan in earnest |
| 01:08.44 | znf | How many expansions will it take them to add a mass-prospect/disenchant/mill? :-/ |
| 01:09.19 | Amarande | znf: or even a keypress to do it without needing an addon to do so? |
| 01:09.41 | znf | they just need to make a container of some sorts, with 4-8 slots |
| 01:09.44 | Amarande | I've ended up using Molinari for so long now that it might as well be baseline UI for me (and I'm usually looking at the screen a bit wtfly when I forget to install it) |
| 01:10.05 | znf | You right-click the container, drag stacks in it, close the container, use the container, poof, you get the contents of it |
| 01:10.10 | Amarande | and hey, just be glad WoW crafting stuff is rapid |
| 01:10.19 | znf | rapid? |
| 01:10.26 | Amarande | compared to SW:TOR and LOTRO, certainly |
| 01:10.26 | znf | 240 potions takes me 6 minutes |
| 01:10.39 | Neffi | znf: minecraft in WoW? |
| 01:10.51 | znf | at start of every expansion I usually make a gbank tab of potions |
| 01:10.53 | znf | it takes me HOURS |
| 01:10.57 | Amarande | while crafting a new high tier item in SW:TOR or processing a stack of ore in LOTRO, you have time to brew and drink a cuppa or read a few chapters in a book |
| 01:11.18 | Neffi | a cuppa what? |
| 01:11.24 | Amarande | joe :P |
| 01:11.32 | Amarande | "cuppa" generally implies coffee |
| 01:11.53 | Neffi | never heard that one |
| 01:12.03 | Semlar | cuppa neffi |
| 01:12.09 | Neffi | cuppa Semlar |
| 01:12.10 | Amarande | and if you need to make a lot of high tier stuff in SW:TOR or process a lot of crafts in LOTRO |
| 01:12.13 | Amarande | you may NEED that coffee :P |
| 01:12.37 | Amarande | crafts in LOTRO are fairly sluggish, and high tier purple items in TOR can take over an hour |
| 01:13.23 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:13.35 | Mr_Rabies | seems they've silently cleaned up a ton of CRZ stuff lately |
| 01:13.41 | Mr_Rabies | it seems to no longer be zone-based |
| 01:13.50 | Semlar | THEN WHAT IS THE Z FOR |
| 01:14.14 | Neffi | brad pitt |
| 01:14.51 | Semlar | they appear to have nerfed SoO |
| 01:15.43 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: nothing noticeable when entering/leaving TB/WG/SW/Org either? |
| 01:15.50 | Semlar | i'm really surprised at more galakras nerfs because that fight wasn't very difficult before they nerfed it the last time |
| 01:15.56 | Gnarfoz | they appear to have changelogs. |
| 01:16.09 | Amarande | oh, also, did they ever fix the wintergrasp splat glitch? :) |
| 01:16.24 | Gnarfoz | and obviously, the fight was hard for enough people for them to tune it a bit differently |
| 01:16.31 | znf | in 10m! |
| 01:16.43 | Semlar | we do a lot of god damn standing around waiting for more stuff to spawn |
| 01:16.45 | znf | glad this will go away in Mythical 20 |
| 01:16.54 | Amarande | Semlar: well, pretty much every raid change has to be a nerf, unfortunately |
| 01:17.05 | Amarande | otherwise you get the debacle LOTRO had regarding the Watcher in the Water and such |
| 01:17.13 | Gnarfoz | Semlar: that's nice for you |
| 01:17.19 | znf | well, it's 6 (?) months in the patch already? |
| 01:17.21 | Gnarfoz | ask someone in a group that struggles |
| 01:17.23 | znf | ofc there's going to be nerfs |
| 01:17.42 | Amarande | and yeah, what Gnarfoz said |
| 01:17.58 | Amarande | it's like complaining towards the end of Wrath about the design of Halls of Stone |
| 01:17.59 | Gnarfoz | tbqh, they didn't touch the fight complexity at all, just some numbers reduced |
| 01:18.09 | Mr_Rabies | what glitch, Amarande? |
| 01:18.22 | Mr_Rabies | i just flew through it outside of a battle with no problems |
| 01:18.23 | Amarande | okay, so the Brann and the computer thingy got super damn easy by the end of the expansion ... it was still hella hard on heroic in the beginning |
| 01:18.24 | Gnarfoz | so obviously their numbers said it made sense to do that =D |
| 01:18.52 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: sometimes you unexpectedly get dismounted and go splat upon trying to pass into WG even though it's, say, over an hour till your realm's next battle |
| 01:18.53 | Mr_Rabies | nope, Amarande, doesn't seem to be super noticable |
| 01:19.04 | Mr_Rabies | if at all |
| 01:19.15 | Mr_Rabies | i don't get any kind of hitch when going from sw to anywhere |
| 01:19.28 | Amarande | I'm not 100% sure, but I think it happens because there's a little bit of lag time for the realm transition (since you're passing from a CRZ zone to a locked-to-not-CRZ zone) |
| 01:19.47 | znf | actually I noticed that in Wintergrasp :P |
| 01:19.51 | Amarande | so what I'm *guessing* happens with the WG glitch is, YOUR realm isn't in battle, but the realm you were shunted to for CRZ for Dragonblight/Sholazar/etc. IS |
| 01:20.10 | Amarande | so you get caught by "oh, in battle, dismount and splat" before the system has a chance to swap you over |
| 01:20.11 | znf | almost went splat once, when I happened to go past |
| 01:20.19 | znf | good thing I can levitate! |
| 01:20.30 | Amarande | it's the sort of thing that's intermittent enough that it's hard to tell whether it's been fixed or not |
| 01:21.03 | znf | I haven't left pandaria in ages anyway *shrug* |
| 01:21.20 | Semlar | garrosh is tuned so far up compared to the rest of the raid that groups are going to feel like they're hitting a brick wall |
| 01:21.44 | Amarande | well, Garrosh is the last boss of the last raid of the expansion, though |
| 01:21.51 | znf | heck, Garrosh normal is harder than 1st boss on heroic :P |
| 01:22.04 | Amarande | so he doesn't have the same basic design worries wrt bumping up the difficulty that other bosses do |
| 01:22.28 | znf | we started doing Blackfuse HC at a perfect time, just before the nerf |
| 01:22.43 | Amarande | it's practically a first rule of MMO design that bumping up the difficulty on a boss *not* the last of the expansion is a recipe for disaster, at least as long as that boss is required for progression |
| 01:23.00 | Amarande | (if it's not required for progression, like how Wrath and Cata made older bosses less important, that's another matter) |
| 01:23.05 | Semlar | i'm not saying he should be easier |
| 01:23.21 | Semlar | but he is WAY more difficult than any other boss |
| 01:23.43 | Amarande | like I said, LOTRO had a particularly infamous case of that, when they bumped up the difficulty of the Watcher way back when |
| 01:23.51 | Semlar | so groups rolling through the rest of the instance are going to be in for a surprise |
| 01:24.14 | Amarande | problem was, at that point they had a mechanic in place that basically enforced old-school raid progression style, i.e., you basically had to do all the older raids before you were ready for the latest |
| 01:24.39 | znf | that's kind of a bad thing for games these day |
| 01:24.44 | Amarande | and people then hit a brick wall, because people decided that the Watcher was then TOO hard, and they'd already done it more than enough times, so it was pulling teeth to get a group to get you the gear you needed from there to move on |
| 01:24.47 | Mr_Rabies | we haven't killed garrosh yet but he seems easier than anything i've tried on heroic yet |
| 01:25.01 | znf | Mr_Rabies, you haven't killed garrosh normal or hc? |
| 01:25.05 | Mr_Rabies | normal |
| 01:25.15 | Amarande | but if you didn't break through that brick wall you'd basically BE a brick next raid :) |
| 01:25.25 | Amarande | at least, you'd be about as useful to your group as a brick |
| 01:25.37 | Semlar | i would rather kill up to nazgrim on heroic than garrosh on normal |
| 01:25.43 | Mr_Rabies | garrosh seems pretty simple tbh |
| 01:25.46 | Mr_Rabies | on normal |
| 01:25.49 | Semlar | then why haven't you killed him |
| 01:25.52 | Mr_Rabies | we started him last night |
| 01:26.04 | Mr_Rabies | and got him really, really close to dead after like 8-10 pulls |
| 01:26.12 | Mr_Rabies | i mean, i've personally killed him |
| 01:26.20 | Mr_Rabies | with another raid group |
| 01:26.26 | Mr_Rabies | but my main raid group hasn't yet |
| 01:26.33 | Amarande | znf: yeah, strict progression has always posed issues for people who got in on stuff later |
| 01:26.54 | Amarande | otoh, the way wrath or cata approached solving that feels imperfect, too |
| 01:27.11 | Amarande | it's almost like turning each content patch into a new mini-expansion instead of the content combining to make a whole |
| 01:27.24 | Mr_Rabies | i personally like that |
| 01:27.28 | Mr_Rabies | but people take issue with it |
| 01:27.33 | znf | LFR is decent |
| 01:27.47 | znf | and the new flexibile raid lockouts in WoD will be decent, too |
| 01:27.49 | Amarande | it also leads to the basic issue that there's only one instance that actually matters and you get to run it to death |
| 01:27.52 | Mr_Rabies | i like that you can go from a break during cata to raid ready to raiding within a week or two now |
| 01:28.28 | Amarande | in, say, BC, at least as I understand it |
| 01:28.42 | Amarande | assuming you managed to actually make your way into the raid circuit (I didn't, mostly because I hit 70 too late I think) |
| 01:28.51 | Mr_Rabies | tbc was the worst, progression wise |
| 01:28.59 | znf | well, by the time of SWP, you couldn't really pick up raiding anymore |
| 01:29.01 | Mr_Rabies | if you fell off the train there was no getting back on |
| 01:29.03 | znf | you had to be run trough all the raids |
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| 01:29.12 | Amarande | you had lots to do. you had the current raid. you had heroics to run and the badges still gave meaningful rewards. you had earlier raid runs too to get guildies up to speed. |
| 01:29.24 | znf | that's too much time investment |
| 01:29.24 | Amarande | now consider, by comparison, Wrath |
| 01:29.32 | Amarande | you had the current raid, you had the current raid, you had the current raid some more |
| 01:29.42 | znf | and running a guild like that starts to feel like a 2nd job |
| 01:29.48 | znf | your recruitment pool is small |
| 01:29.53 | kd3 | starts to? |
| 01:30.05 | Amarande | hell they eventually had to introduce the multi-mode lockout probably because of feelings people developed about that process |
| 01:30.17 | Amarande | I remember there was an AWFUL lot of complaining about the way Wrath approached it, actually |
| 01:30.25 | Amarande | and actually it was hardcore raiders that complained the most |
| 01:31.04 | Amarande | one, that there was only one instance to be run, and two (it was apparently especially bad in the T9 days) that if you wanted to be optimal gear-wise you had to look forward to running that same instance FOUR TIMES A WEEK |
| 01:31.07 | znf | because you had to run ToTGC in so many ways |
| 01:31.13 | znf | 10 normal, 10 heroic, 25 normal, 25 heroic |
| 01:31.30 | Amarande | yeah. you were looking forward to a few months of nothing but trial of the crusader, and not only that, but you had to run all four modes in order to keep up on badges etc. |
| 01:31.31 | Torhal | slaps nicoli_s around with a banana. |
| 01:31.33 | Mr_Rabies | you know what happened in reality in tbc? guildies quit because they couldn't get in a raid group |
| 01:31.40 | znf | I actually enjoyed the separate 10/25M lockouts |
| 01:31.48 | Mr_Rabies | no one wants to run the old raid with no rewards in it after they've already run it to death |
| 01:31.50 | znf | We sometimes run ICC 10 after our 25 runs for fun |
| 01:32.13 | Torhal | VIad: Subversion repos are packaged with a ChangeLog of 30 days typically. No idea why it was set up that way. |
| 01:32.16 | Mr_Rabies | or there'd be progression guilds |
| 01:32.19 | znf | ICC's lockout system felt nice, Crusader was horrible |
| 01:32.37 | znf | WoD's sounds nice, too |
| 01:32.41 | Mr_Rabies | that were still stuck in kara because everytime someone would gear up enough to move on they'd leave and go to a further progressed guild |
| 01:32.52 | znf | though progression raiders will have to run normal/heroic/mythical at start until they complete their tier sets, too :-/ |
| 01:32.57 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: actually, what seemed to be the case in reality was you had your front-runner guilds that got through to T6 and a whole bunch of smaller guilds that slowly slogged through kara |
| 01:33.03 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, tiers are the big issue there, znf |
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| 01:33.17 | znf | Back in 5.0 I actually had to do PvP :-/ |
| 01:33.23 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: and single-instance really hasn't had much effect on poaching |
| 01:33.40 | znf | because the epic pvp gear was better than reputation gear from factions |
| 01:33.40 | Mr_Rabies | it definitely has |
| 01:33.44 | Mr_Rabies | poaching still occurs but |
| 01:33.52 | Mr_Rabies | there were definite tiers to guilds then |
| 01:33.53 | Amarande | apparently in cata there were all kinds of issues where guilds would revolving-door casters because as soon as anyone got a dragonwrath they got poached |
| 01:34.09 | znf | never happened to us :P |
| 01:34.15 | Amarande | and I remember seeing top guilds on wowprogress in cata where it seemed like every single dps caster they HAD had a dragonwrath |
| 01:34.29 | znf | but we did get some new applicants that recently got their staves before they joined us |
| 01:34.38 | Amarande | which basically means they must have been absolutely shameless poachers, because how long does it take to get a dragonwrath? and these were 25-man guilds, sometimes there were five or more legendary staff owners |
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| 01:34.51 | Amarande | znf: yeah, that basically makes you the poachers, then :) |
| 01:34.57 | znf | well, we didn't approach them :P |
| 01:35.00 | Mr_Rabies | dragonwrath took forever in a 10 man |
| 01:35.02 | znf | they were applying |
| 01:35.04 | Mr_Rabies | absolutely forever |
| 01:35.18 | Mr_Rabies | our mage was there every week and he got his like a week before DS |
| 01:35.19 | znf | I'm not sure I actually enjoyed this legendary approach |
| 01:35.29 | Mr_Rabies | i love the MoP legendary idea |
| 01:35.35 | znf | the valor step was horrible |
| 01:35.35 | Mr_Rabies | the execution is less than perfect |
| 01:35.46 | Amarande | tbh, poaching is a problem with practically every team sport, virtual or physical |
| 01:35.49 | Mr_Rabies | eh it was worse when it was 6k valor and i still did that :p |
| 01:35.53 | Amarande | it's the "moneyball" sort of phenomenon, at its root |
| 01:35.54 | znf | and the RNG was horrible |
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| 01:35.59 | Mr_Rabies | the biggest issue is that you can't use any of the rewards except the end one |
| 01:36.10 | znf | especially when your competitor in raid had some better luck than you and was ahead by 1-2 secrets/tablets |
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| 01:36.36 | Amarande | you work hard, you get successful, you get noticed and ... next thing higher tier teams are looking at you, and you're qualified |
| 01:37.31 | Amarande | you know, there might be some wisdom to the folks who think that most realms should have mainly a few mega guilds rather than lots of smaller ones |
| 01:37.47 | Amarande | when there's a few mega guilds, you maintain more cohesive communities |
| 01:38.04 | Amarande | whereas a lot of smaller guilds, I'm not sure I can see a way for them not to ever remain "minor leagues" for the top dogs |
| 01:38.15 | znf | one reason I never liked 10m guilds :P |
| 01:38.27 | Mr_Rabies | i don't like lots of smaller guilds, honestly |
| 01:38.33 | znf | on my old server there were 4 or 5 25m guilds |
| 01:38.38 | Mr_Rabies | i think even 10 man guilds should have multiple raid teams |
| 01:38.39 | znf | and we all knew each other and competed |
| 01:39.04 | Amarande | eh, group size is another matter altogether |
| 01:39.05 | znf | now my realm is so huge and has so many 10 and 25 guilds, I have no idea who half of them are :P |
| 01:39.10 | Amarande | especially now that rewards aren't strictly tied to group size |
| 01:39.45 | Amarande | last I played I was on Illidan, I don't think it's really possible to know all the guilds there :) |
| 01:39.56 | znf | http://www.wowprogress.com/pve/eu/kazzak my realm |
| 01:40.14 | znf | and we're #12 on 25m with 11/14 |
| 01:40.45 | znf | it's actually funny to consider we're #509 in the world, with such a shitty progress |
| 01:41.18 | znf | (that being said, in regards to how many 25m guilds are left in the world) |
| 01:42.38 | Amarande | otoh, megaguilds have their downsides |
| 01:42.49 | Amarande | like oftentimes they have to be way more serious business and less social |
| 01:43.07 | Amarande | because they need to keep guild chat down to a dull roar so people can see actual, well, guild business when it has to be talked about |
| 01:43.13 | Amarande | or actual requests from members for help |
| 01:43.24 | Mr_Rabies | lol we're totally not, but we're not THAT huge |
| 01:44.49 | Arrowmaster | kd3: have you seen frozen yet? |
| 01:44.58 | kd3 | nah |
| 01:45.09 | kd3 | I should probably at some point. everyone keeps talking about it |
| 01:45.18 | Arrowmaster | damn you wouldnt get this FMA parody |
| 01:47.53 | Arrowmaster | and yeah one of my friends worked on it as a look development artist, they did a great job |
| 01:48.26 | Mr_Rabies | Amarande: 25s get geared so much insanely faster than 10s now though, even if the ilvl is the "same" |
| 01:48.49 | Mr_Rabies | warforged drops like crazy in 25 as well as less stuff getting sharded early on |
| 01:49.21 | Amarande | well, yeah, there are certain things about 25's that ensure that |
| 01:49.27 | Amarande | like the fact that every piece of gear is likely to find a home for a while |
| 01:49.35 | Amarande | whereas in 10's, many an item is worthless from the get go |
| 01:49.46 | Amarande | (especially if you have no hunter or shaman in your regular group, like was the case with my ICC guild heh) |
| 01:52.36 | Amarande | then also the corollary principle of loot (if you don't need it, it always drops more often :D) |
| 01:53.04 | znf | the issue we have in 25m is that "it's not warforged, I don't want it" |
| 01:53.40 | Amarande | There are times I could swear that MMO coders secretly put in a little algorithm server-side to figure out what you are most likely to want, and adjust drop chances for the more exasperating accordingly. :) |
| 01:54.27 | Amarande | you know, like how slot machines are programmed (this actually IS true) to love to stop just short of the sevens |
| 01:55.05 | znf | grea, ofc I forgot the engineering tinker on my hc gloves today |
| 01:57.06 | znf | at least I didn't raid 2 months without it like I did back in DS |
| 02:00.25 | Neffi | Amarande: I doubt they use any automated scripts for that. The game developers want more control than that |
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| 02:14.31 | karl_w_w | http://www.twitch.tv/koibu anyone remember the name of that guy middle right? |
| 02:15.59 | karl_w_w | he moved to 2nd on middle row |
| 02:19.29 | karl_w_w | storrzerg nvm |
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| 02:21.17 | znf | Anyone on Windows 8 experiencing Jump Lists not working in most programs? (works for explorer, but any 3rd party doesn't) |
| 02:21.26 | Amarande | hm |
| 02:21.31 | Shirik | what is a jump list? |
| 02:21.34 | Amarande | if I knew exactly what a "jump list" was ... |
| 02:22.01 | znf | this is a jump list: http://i.imgur.com/MHw1lNS.png |
| 02:22.12 | bluspacecow | its a play list that only plays jump songs |
| 02:22.29 | Shirik | oh |
| 02:22.34 | Shirik | I'm not on windows 8 sorry |
| 02:22.37 | znf | or this: http://i.imgur.com/CIgfRNS.png |
| 02:22.38 | Shirik | just was curious |
| 02:22.54 | znf | Notepad++ complains about missing files, even though they're there |
| 02:23.08 | znf | but stuff like KiTTY, Mumble, Chrome doesn't do anything when I click the items :P |
| 02:24.55 | karl_w_w | works for me znf |
| 02:25.02 | znf | weird |
| 02:25.18 | znf | even weirder that it works for Explorer but not anything else :-/ |
| 02:25.25 | karl_w_w | what doesnt work is the options on right clicking the start button |
| 02:25.30 | Neffi | I just went to test Chrom'e jump list and for some reason this was pinned in there http://i.imgur.com/s5zFS80.jpg |
| 02:25.47 | znf | heh |
| 02:25.51 | karl_w_w | and I havent been able to Manage my computer since 8.1 |
| 02:26.21 | znf | karl_w_w, run works for me |
| 02:26.22 | znf | but that's about it |
| 02:26.31 | znf | oh, and search |
| 02:26.34 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 02:26.46 | znf | and Desktop |
| 02:26.52 | znf | and I'm not going to try shutdown/restart P |
| 02:26.53 | znf | :P |
| 02:27.14 | karl_w_w | the ones with a keyboard shortcut work |
| 02:27.42 | karl_w_w | that's impressively counter-useful |
| 02:28.08 | znf | if I press alt to see the keyboard shortcuts, the menu disappears :P |
| 02:28.49 | znf | meh, but I use Start8 anyway |
| 02:33.05 | znf | EU armory down... >_< |
| 02:34.53 | znf | (obviously when I was doing something on it) |
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| 03:51.57 | Neffi | boops Semlar. Boop! |
| 03:52.36 | Neffi | Hey is JC still a solid option to rake in some gold? |
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| 04:03.45 | Mr_Rabies | at this point not really |
| 04:03.50 | Mr_Rabies | nothing really is |
| 04:04.02 | Mr_Rabies | end-expansion time isn't a great time to make gold |
| 04:20.37 | Neffi | yeah I'll probably stick to gathering on these alts then |
| 04:20.51 | Neffi | I made a killing in early MoP w/ mining, just while leveling |
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| 04:25.54 | Cairenn | Completely out of the blue - I love this new Tim's commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eio_1yOjeYU&list=PLEBPkS9Z0ZdooGVxZL4qN3xxsQg0YV70d&feature=c4-overview-vl |
| 04:29.45 | Mr_Rabies | speaking of incredibly canadian things |
| 04:30.06 | Iriel | Mr_Rabies: what's rob ford done now? |
| 04:30.14 | Mr_Rabies | i heard "that's rough sledding" on an interview with the main actor from Arrow |
| 04:30.18 | Mr_Rabies | and was like |
| 04:30.27 | Mr_Rabies | welllllp, that's canadian as all hell |
| 04:30.32 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 04:58.51 | Mr_Rabies | argh okay i lied semlar |
| 04:59.13 | Mr_Rabies | garrosh is tough to learn, the groups i've killed him with must be super overgeared |
| 05:01.18 | Mr_Rabies | we're stuck on the adds part during the second to final part |
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| 07:25.08 | Primer | bah, NPCscan overlay covering vital parts of the map |
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| 07:25.54 | Primer | I wish the old behavior would return, where if you hover over it, it moves to another corner |
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| 07:47.32 | Mr_Rabies | there's a toggle button |
| 07:47.39 | Mr_Rabies | you can just toggle it when you don't really care |
| 07:48.04 | Mr_Rabies | it's on the world map and also on any broker that it's on |
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| 08:22.17 | zenzio | I hate it when you're listening to di.fm and there's a good song on, so you think "I'll look this up on Spotify" (or any other music service you prefer). Then the artist's name is "N.D.". Great. And the name of the song does not match anything |
| 08:22.56 | nevcairiel | usually works fine googling for it :p |
| 08:23.29 | zenzio | doesn't help if it's not on Spotify |
| 08:23.50 | zenzio | I'm sure I could find a download if that was my goal |
| 08:23.53 | nevcairiel | thats spotifys problem of a limited library then |
| 08:23.58 | nevcairiel | blame jnwhiteh |
| 08:24.04 | zenzio | hehe |
| 08:31.40 | haste | zenzio: you can look it up on discogs as well |
| 08:32.01 | haste | spotify used to have a issue with symbols, not sure if its entirely fixed yet |
| 08:33.25 | zenzio | I'll have a look there, thanks for the tip |
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| 08:44.30 | Shirik | lol wtf |
| 08:44.37 | Shirik | "give a man a fish, and he will eat for a day |
| 08:44.43 | Shirik | give a man a poisoned fish, and he will eat for a lifetime" |
| 08:45.02 | Mr_Rabies | zenzio, that's why shazam/soundhound were invented |
| 08:45.53 | Shirik | zenzio: I have a new hated thing on spotify |
| 08:45.54 | zenzio | Mr_Rabies: I do generally agree, but when I have the full song title already, I should be able to find the song anyway if it was on Spotify |
| 08:46.00 | zenzio | Shirik: do tell |
| 08:46.14 | Shirik | apparently there are songs that spotify doesn't know about, and what people do is name their playlists as if they were those songs |
| 08:46.18 | Shirik | just to cause people to go to the |
| 08:46.19 | Shirik | m |
| 08:46.51 | zenzio | haven't encountered that myself, but I can definitely see how that would be annoying |
| 08:47.04 | Shirik | it's not really that big of a deal |
| 08:47.09 | Shirik | but it's like the whole facebook like thing |
| 08:47.28 | Shirik | do you really have to be so "internet famous" that you go out of your way to trick people into finding your shitty playlist? |
| 08:47.29 | Shirik | seriously? |
| 08:50.24 | zenzio | sadly, with people the default answer is generally "yes" |
| 08:51.38 | zenzio | I was on a five-hour bus journey once, and a couple of rows behind me there were three or four 16-17 year olds... they spent half the journey taking random pictures out the window, posting them to instagram and tagging them with 10+ random tags (based only from their conversation) to see who could get the most likes |
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| 09:19.13 | Icicle | Good Morning |
| 09:19.22 | Icicle | I've got donuts for whomever wants them |
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| 09:19.39 | Icicle | just come visit my desk in Koln Germany |
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| 09:29.31 | Mr_Rabies | oh man |
| 09:29.44 | Mr_Rabies | seeing steam patch notes signed slouken is nostalgic |
| 09:30.21 | Mr_Rabies | http://steamcommunity.com/groups/SteamClientBeta#announcements/detail/1783723866286216693 |
| 09:30.22 | zenzio | nostalgic in what sense; from when he did WoW stuff, or does he no longer work on Steam? |
| 09:30.34 | Mr_Rabies | from when he was on WoW |
| 09:30.47 | Mr_Rabies | he's head of their linux team afaik, though valve's not really organized that way |
| 09:31.19 | Mr_Rabies | i didn't think he'd take the nickname with him |
| 09:31.23 | zenzio | "Wait for the network to connect before auto-login". Seems like such an obvious thing, yet easy to forget about |
| 09:31.57 | zenzio | do you suppose Ghostcrawler will still be Ghostcrawler? I wonder how many do keep the nick. I would at least |
| 09:32.54 | Mr_Rabies | i think he's already said he's not gonna be using that |
| 09:33.10 | Mr_Rabies | he had another nickname when he was on the age of empires team |
| 09:33.32 | Mr_Rabies | Deathshrimp |
| 09:35.10 | amro | I see a pattern |
| 09:35.59 | Workfoz | Icicle: ok |
| 09:36.48 | Icicle | see you soon Workfoz ;) |
| 09:37.10 | Workfoz | could be kind of hard to fit that into my lunch break |
| 09:40.54 | bluspacecow | slowpoke.jpg |
| 09:41.00 | bluspacecow | <----------------- already eaten them |
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| 12:04.36 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CspMRc2h0vs japan. |
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| 13:42.14 | zenzio | "j = j+parseInt('1', 10);"... why, just why... |
| 13:43.30 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 14:03.04 | Maldivia | to avoid compiler optimization? |
| 14:07.09 | zenzio | in javascript? |
| 14:08.03 | Stanzilla | jit! |
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| 14:52.41 | Dagmar | To evade malware/adware scanning/ |
| 14:52.42 | Dagmar | Maybe |
| 14:52.53 | Dagmar | Equally likely that they're just stupid |
| 14:52.53 | Semlar | evades neffi |
| 14:53.11 | Neffi_ | infects semlar anyway |
| 14:55.02 | Neffi_ | bed time semlar |
| 14:55.17 | Semlar | it's 10am neffi |
| 14:55.26 | Semlar | are you a vampire |
| 14:55.36 | Neffi | . |
| 14:55.43 | Neffi | now I have to kill you |
| 14:56.10 | rid_ | :< |
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| 14:56.42 | Semlar_ | :( |
| 14:56.46 | jleclanche | topdecking mind control with zero cards in hand, enemy with a rag on the board and at 7 hp. |
| 14:56.48 | jleclanche | yes. |
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| 15:08.40 | karl_w_w | i dont even run a mind control any more |
| 15:11.27 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: ive been tempted to drop it |
| 15:11.51 | jleclanche | its way too.. gimmicky? i guess |
| 15:12.19 | karl_w_w | it's fine really |
| 15:12.25 | karl_w_w | just not always great |
| 15:12.49 | jleclanche | i rarely even get to turn 10 |
| 15:13.15 | karl_w_w | to be able to run it you need to have things like tinkmaster overspark |
| 15:13.28 | karl_w_w | and big legendaries of your own to use |
| 15:14.14 | karl_w_w | i only took out the one i had when i got rag yesterday |
| 15:17.08 | karl_w_w | and you'll get to turn 10 95% of the time once you get to higher ranks |
| 15:20.38 | jleclanche | i dont care about higher ranks |
| 15:20.43 | jleclanche | i hate constructed |
| 15:20.45 | jleclanche | i just do it for the gold |
| 15:20.58 | karl_w_w | you will care when you get there :P |
| 15:24.20 | jleclanche | why? |
| 15:24.27 | jleclanche | suddenly being high rank doesnt make me *like* constructed |
| 15:24.45 | jleclanche | its like wow arenas |
| 15:24.55 | jleclanche | i hated them, both at 1500 rating and at 2300 rating |
| 15:32.08 | Semlar | alright i want to make an addon that tells me what caused me to stand up while eating |
| 15:32.51 | bluspacecow | you stand up while eating? |
| 15:32.53 | bluspacecow | how odd |
| 15:33.18 | Semlar | extremely often |
| 15:33.29 | bluspacecow | oh? |
| 15:33.55 | Semlar | this has been going on for years, i just assume blizzard isn't going to fix it |
| 15:34.09 | bluspacecow | nah its too amusing |
| 15:34.18 | nevcairiel | doesnt really happen to me |
| 15:34.21 | bluspacecow | like the gms have a button "make everyone sitting in the zone stand up" |
| 15:34.23 | Semlar | it breaks carts too which is even funnier |
| 15:34.34 | Semlar | because those cost a fortune |
| 15:34.57 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure it's caused by your character insta-casting something automatically in response to some event |
| 15:35.06 | jleclanche | Semlar: depending on the location it could be whatever zone event |
| 15:35.08 | Semlar | i'm going to see if i can detect them reliably |
| 15:35.28 | nevcairiel | and then you know .... and then? :P |
| 15:35.58 | Semlar | if i know what's causing it i know what to avoid |
| 15:36.55 | Semlar | i already know when heals like healing rain on the ground expire they make everyone inside them stand up |
| 15:37.07 | Semlar | i think possibly renewing mist does it |
| 15:38.05 | Semlar | so basically when you're running back from a wipe and the raid is getting healed up and buffed it interferes with your buff food pretty reliably |
| 15:38.28 | Semlar | it's a rather expensive annoyance |
| 15:44.50 | jleclanche | kd3: woah. https://github.com/tmeshkova/gecko-dev/tree/qtbackendrefactor |
| 15:45.13 | jleclanche | the qt port of firefox is actually still ongoing |
| 15:45.14 | jleclanche | incredible |
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| 16:04.59 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1knKilBbcFY those were the days :P |
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| 16:30.33 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/YSeXXRj.png |
| 16:34.57 | nevcairiel | old |
| 16:35.29 | nevcairiel | people should at least link thr github entry itself |
| 16:35.29 | Neffi | :| |
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| 16:43.59 | Neffi | wow http://arxiv.org/abs/1312.7128 |
| 16:44.10 | Neffi | "Searching the Internet for evidence of time travelers" |
| 16:44.34 | Neffi | I wish I could get funding to do useless thingds |
| 16:53.40 | Dagmar | It wasn't much funding |
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| 17:05.40 | Shirik | "(CNN) -- Justin Bieber was charged with drunken driving, resisting arrest and driving without a valid license after police saw the pop star street racing Thursday morning, Miami Beach police said." |
| 17:06.03 | Shirik | quelle surprise |
| 17:06.56 | karl_w_w | i never guessed searching youtube for "gta v stunts" would have such entertaining results |
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| 17:14.37 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZV3aZfextU |
| 17:21.40 | pompy | Shirik: time to deport him! |
| 17:24.26 | Neffi | we don't want him |
| 17:24.33 | Neffi | send him to Siberia or something |
| 17:26.22 | karl_w_w | is steam broked? |
| 17:26.56 | pompy | says yu are playing dota2' |
| 17:27.25 | karl_w_w | yeah it seems to be working now |
| 17:27.34 | karl_w_w | had to restart steam |
| 17:33.00 | Shirik | you play dota 2? |
| 17:34.00 | Shirik | I don't think I have you on my friends list |
| 17:37.02 | TC-Work | That's a good thing |
| 17:37.35 | Shirik | :( |
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| 17:59.23 | Arrowmaster | lol gg breaking the game http://new.tinygrab.com/d5bbad16d6161fc03e735b032c36f983e6c5d545cc.png |
| 18:01.42 | sankle | you do that? |
| 18:02.23 | Arrowmaster | no somebody posted it on reddit |
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| 18:02.39 | fewyn | http://www.wowhead.com/news=226814/warlords-of-draenor-new-female-human-model |
| 18:02.45 | nicoli_s | im not surprised, the game is woefully insecure |
| 18:06.20 | Dagmar | Why does the page look like it was savaged by adware? |
| 18:06.49 | Dagmar | Starting around Polygon it looks like something did a horrible job of inserting footnotes or something |
| 18:10.59 | karl_w_w | add me Shirik, larwood's the name and... I got nothing funny to go here |
| 18:11.28 | Neffi | dota2's the game? |
| 18:11.34 | karl_w_w | too obvious |
| 18:11.44 | Neffi | better than nothing |
| 18:12.09 | karl_w_w | settle for nothing but the best |
| 18:12.51 | Neffi | apparently you mean "setting for nothing OR the best" |
| 18:14.06 | karl_w_w | they mean the same thing :P |
| 18:14.26 | karl_w_w | if you dont settle for the best then you have settled for nothing |
| 18:23.23 | Dagmar | Probably "settling" |
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| 19:06.40 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:08.34 | Lopeppeppy | Bonjour. |
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| 20:08.05 | kd3 | oh gods... this is new. wet-concrete induced control failures: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/23/londons-victoria-line-suspended-after-control-room-is-flooded-with-cement |
| 20:09.31 | Fisker | You're so classy today Lopeppeppy |
| 20:09.38 | Fisker | what's up? |
| 20:11.36 | TC-Work | Fisker: She was just using crappletalk. |
| 20:11.37 | Lopeppeppy | I'm playing with spaghetti code. You either get classy or a lot of F bombs. |
| 20:11.50 | kd3 | por que no los dos? |
| 20:11.54 | Fisker | I'm fine with F bombs |
| 20:11.58 | kd3 | classy swearing is hilarious when you're pissed off |
| 20:12.00 | Fisker | I have humidity-based tourettes |
| 20:12.07 | Fisker | and I'm not buying any weird moistorizer |
| 20:12.09 | Fisker | or whatever you said |
| 20:14.46 | znf | beats Fisker with a stick |
| 20:14.55 | Fisker | why? |
| 20:15.08 | Jamash | wtb new troll models |
| 20:15.11 | Lopeppeppy | The Boyfriend is revisiting his high school Spanish classes in the hour before bedtime. I keep adding "in my trunk" to the phrases he's trying to say. It's much more fun that way. |
| 20:15.19 | Lopeppeppy | "No, I do not have any children... in my trunk." |
| 20:16.07 | Ressy | lol |
| 20:16.07 | Fisker | stears clear of that avenue of discussion |
| 20:16.31 | TC-Work | Wuss |
| 20:16.35 | Fisker | yeah |
| 20:17.08 | Lopeppeppy | "I do not eat breakfast on Sundays... in my trunk." |
| 20:17.39 | TC-Work | "I do not throw away junk...in my trunk." |
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| 20:18.25 | Lopeppeppy | Harumph. I just knew someone would get to "junk in my trunk" |
| 20:18.43 | kd3 | are you upset it took as long as it did? |
| 20:19.12 | Fisker | exactly why I steered clear of it Lopeppeppy |
| 20:19.22 | TC-Work | I only did it because it was not being done fast enough. |
| 20:19.24 | Fisker | Already got burned because someone wanted to take pictures of her eating muffin |
| 20:23.03 | Lopeppeppy | wha... ? |
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| 20:26.49 | Fisker | uh she said she would take pictures of her eating muffin |
| 20:26.53 | Fisker | and I said I would like those |
| 20:27.25 | Fisker | (giggity) |
| 20:29.24 | Lopeppeppy | This must have been while I was being trained to death. *nod* |
| 20:32.48 | Fisker | wut |
| 20:34.55 | Jamash | are we talking mob trains or business learning courses |
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| 20:36.22 | Fisker | you're going home Lopeppeppy |
| 20:36.38 | Lopeppeppy | Another hour, Fiskerboo. |
| 20:37.44 | Fisker | you're still going home |
| 20:37.50 | Fisker | summertime |
| 20:37.56 | Fisker | sometime |
| 20:38.14 | Lopeppeppy | Someday. |
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| 20:50.00 | Fisker | somewhere |
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| 21:32.32 | Jamash | sounds like a musical in here |
| 21:32.49 | Jamash | brb |
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| 22:20.29 | TC-Work | Huh, it seems that Ryan Gosling is at my facility/ |
| 22:20.31 | TC-Work | . |
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| 23:15.03 | karl_w_w | did you ask him out TC-Work? |
| 23:15.27 | TC-Work | karl_w_w: No, I'm not that kind of girl. |
| 23:16.11 | karl_w_w | ooh nice, the door's still open for me |
| 23:18.32 | TC-Work | You wish |
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| 23:49.15 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: http://i.imgur.com/exweqQq.jpg |
| 23:56.31 | Torhal | Cats can be evil motherfuckers, Arrowmaster. |
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