| 00:00.06 | Sintacks | Downstream: 5976.33 KBytes/s Upstream: 86.12 KBytes/s |
| 00:00.07 | Sintacks | weeeeeeeeeeee |
| 00:00.48 | Sintacks | 14.9GB during the hour of 6:00. not sure what time atfter 6 i started it |
| 00:00.55 | Sintacks | s/atfter/after/ |
| 00:03.00 | Maldivia | Sintacks: re your "logging out of windows", there are tools that can do that for you :) |
| 00:03.14 | Maldivia | (same icon layout, and then you can restore, when windows fucks them up) |
| 00:03.58 | Sintacks | yeah i konw |
| 00:03.59 | Sintacks | but i'm lazy |
| 00:05.14 | Maldivia | Sintacks: for instance http://www.midiox.com/desktoprestore.htm -- even if the site does look like something from last century :) |
| 00:08.14 | Sintacks | This page was last modified on 11-12-10 |
| 00:11.20 | Sintacks | 4.5GB remaining |
| 00:11.22 | Sintacks | jioadgjaoisjdf |
| 00:11.48 | Sintacks | heh.. i'm complaining about this taking too long, yet i'm downloading it 10 times+ faster than a lot of people would be able to |
| 00:12.51 | Sintacks | wtf did i do on the 4th... i didn't even download 1GB that day. |
| 00:13.01 | Sintacks | my daily avg is about 1.9GB |
| 00:32.13 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/ZmqFoXD.jpg :) |
| 00:36.14 | kd3 | o_O; so apparently cool runnings was a documentary: https://twitter.com/JamaicaOlympics/statuses/424628761816879104 |
| 00:36.29 | kullervo | my daily average on wired must be towards 5GB |
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| 00:38.54 | kullervo | assuming I actually do something instead of just coming home and falling asleep at my desk |
| 00:40.13 | haste | I don't want to look at our daily average :P |
| 00:41.23 | Corrodias | bobsledding is actually a thing? |
| 00:45.08 | Shirik | ....? |
| 00:45.17 | Shirik | you didn't know this? |
| 00:46.15 | Dagmar | What makes it "Olypmic" is that you do it in so flimsy a craft and at such speeds down an *iced tube* that if you fuck up, you're probably going to die. |
| 00:46.43 | Neffi | somebody did die a few years back |
| 00:46.53 | Neffi | bobsled flew up the side of the track and into a column |
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| 00:50.25 | tz | there's a reason why the single-person head-first one is called 'skeleton' |
| 00:56.48 | Shirik | well this is a strange predicament |
| 00:57.00 | Shirik | I have a file on my computer that I can't delete, can't take owernship of, and have full permission to |
| 00:57.08 | Iriel | fsck time? |
| 00:57.14 | Semlar | trivial plates have a default scale of 0.4 neffi |
| 00:57.16 | Iriel | check the parent directory |
| 00:57.19 | Iriel | check the filesystem is writable |
| 00:57.30 | Shirik | well it's my C drive so I'm pretty sure the filesystem's writable :) |
| 00:57.36 | Shirik | I'll run a check on the disk though |
| 00:57.50 | tz | and here's me about to type 'chattr -i' |
| 00:59.47 | Neffi | Semlar: so? |
| 01:00.09 | Semlar | if you scale down the nameplate they'll be nearly impossible to click on |
| 01:00.43 | Shirik | Iriel: btw I blame adobe |
| 01:00.56 | Shirik | creative cloud asks you what drive to install to, but then it's like "I'm gonna shove stuff on C here anyway" |
| 01:01.07 | Neffi | Semlar: So I'm just gonna add :SetScale(1) to the scaler |
| 01:01.37 | Neffi | Semlar: which part is scaled? the base frame? the clickable part? |
| 01:01.46 | Semlar | the clickable part |
| 01:01.54 | Semlar | if you want to counter the trivial scale you'll have to do it every time |
| 01:02.07 | Semlar | so none of that comparing numchildren |
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| 01:03.26 | Neffi | my version does run every time |
| 01:03.45 | Semlar | it would be like f:GetChildren():SetScale(0.5) instead of f:SetScale(0.5) |
| 01:04.04 | Neffi | mhmm |
| 01:04.23 | Semlar | actually |
| 01:04.31 | Semlar | okay here's the thing |
| 01:04.41 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure we can hook the onshow of the plate once we've discovered it |
| 01:04.47 | Neffi | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Thing_v2_1_coverart.jpg |
| 01:05.08 | Neffi | Yes, I have the OnShow hooked, but you can't SetScale while InCombatLockdown() |
| 01:05.33 | Semlar | well i meant with a secure script |
| 01:05.42 | Semlar | you can hook the onshow with a secure handler |
| 01:05.56 | Semlar | at least that's what i got out of the documentation |
| 01:06.04 | Stanzilla | why are you ripping apart his code that works fine btw? :p |
| 01:06.27 | Semlar | who? |
| 01:06.35 | Stanzilla | Neffi: |
| 01:06.52 | Neffi | It's Semlar's code, not mine |
| 01:07.10 | Neffi | I just sort of stole it |
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| 01:07.30 | Semlar | it works "okay" i'm just trying to improve it |
| 01:08.12 | Neffi | I believe you can use OnShow, but I dont see it here http://wowpedia.org/SecureHandlers |
| 01:08.40 | Neffi | But you can't attach that OnShow to the frame while in combat, so frames created mid combat wouldnt be sized/scaled until after |
| 01:09.10 | Semlar | SecureHandlerShowHideTemplate |
| 01:09.52 | Semlar | you can attach it inside your restricted environment |
| 01:09.56 | Neffi | I'll waste the extra CPU cycles so that nameplates created mid combat aren't all fucked up |
| 01:10.36 | Neffi | Attach it via the mouseover? We're still spending the table and iteration to do the attaching then. It doesnt save anything |
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| 01:11.29 | Semlar | well the point is that you can rescale the trivial plates on show rather than having to mouse over something for it |
| 01:12.02 | Semlar | because if they're smaller |
| 01:12.07 | Semlar | and you go to mouse over them |
| 01:12.24 | Semlar | you won't necessarily mouse over the clickable area |
| 01:12.56 | Neffi | Actually, I think I want to keep them trivial. I'll add some logic to detect when a plate is trivial or not, resize the fontstring so the scale doesnt make them render poorly, and change their layout slightly |
| 01:13.52 | Neffi | Will a plate ever bounce between trivial and non-trivial mid combat for the same unit, or is it safe to assume that if it's scaled OnShow, it's going to stay scaled? |
| 01:14.18 | Semlar | i'm probably going to add some stuff that keeps track of how many of each type of plate is on the screen and if there are a bunch of friendly npcs it'll start shrinking or hiding them |
| 01:14.41 | Semlar | like on galakras the god damn screen is covered in friendly nameplates |
| 01:14.50 | Neffi | My nameplates are about half the size of yours so I don't have to worry about that |
| 01:14.56 | kd3 | trivial's a tag (internally called minus), like elite. if a mob's trivial it's not going to change to non-trivial |
| 01:15.23 | Neffi | kd3: Is there any API that tells you if a mob is trivial? |
| 01:15.30 | Neffi | Because I didn't consider that tag for my UFs |
| 01:16.14 | kd3 | UnitClassification("target') should |
| 01:16.40 | Semlar | returns 'minus' |
| 01:17.08 | Neffi | Heh. I'm well out of date |
| 01:17.29 | Neffi | afk like 15 min |
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| 01:45.58 | Neffi | Why is Wowpedia's search so bad? |
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| 01:46.15 | Neffi | Search for "UnitClassification", it beings me to http://wowpedia.org/index.php?search=unitclassification&button=&title=Special%3ASearch |
| 01:46.23 | Neffi | Search for "SetAttribute", it brings up nothing at all |
| 01:46.56 | kd3 | because curse's setup is horrid |
| 01:47.02 | kd3 | they don't know how to use sphinx, apparently |
| 01:47.39 | Neffi | Not having autocorrection on the search is already annoying, but when the search doesnt even bring up the page at all, that's just terrible |
| 01:47.48 | Semlar | wowpedia's search is amazingly bad |
| 01:48.14 | kd3 | any curse-backed wiki (they're all on gamepedia.com) has just as bogus of a search (they're all using the same engine) |
| 01:48.17 | Iriel | Use wowprogramming instead? |
| 01:48.23 | Semlar | http://wowpedia.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&search=restricted+environment&fulltext=Search |
| 01:48.44 | kd3 | trust me, I know |
| 01:48.58 | Neffi | Iriel: I use that occassionally, but I don't like the page layout |
| 01:49.58 | Semlar | "Showing below 3 results starting with #1" wait a minute |
| 01:50.10 | Semlar | there are no results on this page |
| 01:50.16 | Neffi | Semlar: the alpha on (nameplate:GetChildren()) is exactly .4 for trivial units? |
| 01:50.43 | Semlar | it's 0.4 but GetScale() gives like 0.400000000000000something |
| 01:50.57 | Semlar | i don't know if it'll equate to 0.4 |
| 01:50.59 | Semlar | probably not |
| 01:51.00 | kd3 | aren't doubles fun? |
| 01:51.08 | Neffi | they are ;) |
| 01:51.22 | Neffi | I just wanted to know if I can get away with ==.4 or if I need > .5 |
| 01:51.25 | Neffi | < .5 * |
| 01:51.36 | Iriel | You probably need > 0.39 < 0.41 |
| 01:51.56 | Semlar | frankly you could probably get away with < 1 or something |
| 01:51.58 | Neffi | I need to toy around anyway because I dont remember how to find out if they're elites, rare, rare elites, etc through nameplate (if I even can) |
| 01:52.15 | Neffi | I'm writing a getclassification routine |
| 01:52.16 | Semlar | or < 0.5 |
| 01:53.05 | Semlar | you can determine elite |
| 01:53.13 | Semlar | there's a texture for it |
| 01:53.18 | Neffi | boss icon? isn't there a dragon now? |
| 01:53.29 | Semlar | it's a dragon texture |
| 01:53.34 | Semlar | the boss icon is for bosses |
| 01:53.57 | Neffi | Does the skull icon only show for things that'd be "worldboss"? Or does it also show if they're >10 levels over you? |
| 01:54.05 | kd3 | >10 too |
| 01:54.11 | Neffi | ugly |
| 01:54.14 | Gnarfoz | did they change that from >3 |
| 01:54.15 | Semlar | eh |
| 01:54.20 | Gnarfoz | or are you just making stuff up |
| 01:54.34 | kd3 | it's always been >10. you could see mobs up to 9 levels above yours |
| 01:54.41 | Neffi | does the dragon icon show if they're a worldboss? Because I can do bossicon:IsShown() and not dragonicon:IsShown() |
| 01:54.56 | kd3 | dragonicon is for rares/rare-elites |
| 01:55.04 | Semlar | elites only |
| 01:55.04 | kd3 | afaik |
| 01:55.23 | Semlar | there is no indication for rares on the nameplate as far as i know |
| 01:55.44 | Neffi | Sorry, one last question, it's just hard for me to do this myself on a trial: for units that are >10 levels above, does the level text show as '??' or not at all? |
| 01:56.16 | Semlar | the level shows up as a skull i think |
| 01:56.30 | Semlar | probably the same texture as the boss icon |
| 01:56.41 | Neffi | ok. so I can't do a full UnitClassification replica for nameplates. but I can get as much info as I'm able to show anyway, so whatever |
| 01:57.39 | Semlar | you could probably go look at the training dummies |
| 01:57.49 | Semlar | they're going to be level 90 or whatever |
| 01:58.00 | Neffi | UnitClassification's doc on WowP claims it can return both "trivial" and "minus". Is that an error on the page? Or are they distinct things? |
| 01:58.19 | kd3 | trivial is for grey-level mobs |
| 01:58.26 | Semlar | minus is the mini plates |
| 02:00.35 | Semlar | actually |
| 02:01.10 | Semlar | i can see the level of the target dummies so i have no idea |
| 02:01.10 | kd3 | hit refresh, I put in a longer explanation for trivial-vs-minus in the returns section |
| 02:01.29 | Neffi | thanks, kd3 |
| 02:01.44 | Semlar | i don't know if it's because training dummies are special or if you can just see their level anyway |
| 02:01.53 | Shirik | some day people are going to learn that if I ask you to install a program to a drive other than C |
| 02:01.57 | Shirik | you probably shouldn't install to C |
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| 02:04.21 | Neffi | does this look correct, Semlar? http://pastebin.com/gu13HRY6 |
| 02:04.46 | Neffi | self.overlay == (nameplate:GetChildren()) |
| 02:05.20 | Semlar | i don't know if i'd call it overlay |
| 02:05.51 | Semlar | it's the frame that contains the healthbar |
| 02:06.04 | Semlar | and the name |
| 02:06.38 | Semlar | actually the name is the second child |
| 02:06.40 | Neffi | hpbar and castbar actually |
| 02:06.56 | Semlar | that's why i called it the bargroup |
| 02:08.02 | Semlar | anyway everything on the nameplate is anchored to the bargroup |
| 02:09.03 | Semlar | and it controls where the clickable area is on the world frame for whatever reason |
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| 02:10.49 | Semlar | what determines which nameplate you'll click on when they're stacked is which unit is closer to your camera |
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| 02:47.25 | Neffi | what is this in my acct history?: WOW_EXSOR10D |
| 02:47.51 | Neffi | 10 free days from what? |
| 02:48.12 | kd3 | 10 day trial of the next expansion? |
| 02:48.26 | Neffi | In 2011? I dont think so |
| 02:48.36 | Neffi | The only trial I've ever taken for an expansion was with Mists |
| 02:49.34 | Neffi | It's neither recruit a friend or scroll of res, because all of those are accounted for. Weird stuff. |
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| 02:50.47 | Gnarfoz | it even says "SOR" |
| 02:50.50 | Gnarfoz | scroll of resurrection |
| 02:51.13 | Neffi | That's what I figured, but I've never given nor taken a SoR |
| 02:51.28 | Neffi | I've given two Recruit a Friends and both of them are accounted for. They're 30 days anyway |
| 02:51.43 | Neffi | (I dont think SoR existed in 2011 btw) |
| 02:51.52 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 02:52.04 | Neffi | Well even if it did, I never got one |
| 02:52.12 | kd3 | SoR existed back in bc? maybe even earlier? |
| 02:52.15 | Gnarfoz | no, that'd be reward for giving one, if anything |
| 02:52.29 | Gnarfoz | (and "ex" is probably not expansion but exemption) |
| 02:52.50 | Gnarfoz | shrugs |
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| 03:01.25 | Shirik | you know, Adobe is scary |
| 03:01.31 | Shirik | some of the technology they have is pretty absurd |
| 03:02.55 | Gnarfoz | also, they lost a huge amount of customer data, but I guess that's par for the course |
| 03:05.31 | Shirik | it's fine |
| 03:05.34 | Shirik | the NSA had it already anyway |
| 03:06.01 | Shirik | but yeah I was reminded of that when I just logged into my adobe account :P |
| 03:06.04 | Shirik | forced me to change my password |
| 03:06.08 | Shirik | I probably should have done that a long time ago |
| 03:10.53 | Dagmar | Evilpig: Hopefully, someday, dynmap will finish |
| 03:10.57 | Dagmar | @#$@ |
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| 03:16.06 | Fisker | you were hacked maybe Neffi |
| 03:16.17 | Fisker | hackers love using free gametime |
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| 03:21.24 | Neffi | :O |
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| 03:34.26 | kd3 | this is awesome: http://distractionsinspace.tumblr.com/ |
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| 04:00.39 | Shirik | I think flick panning is the worst feature photoshop has ever made |
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| 04:28.03 | karl_w_w | ~seen bluspacecow |
| 04:28.05 | purl | bluspacecow <~bluspacec@121.99.242.137> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 3h 20m 25s ago, saying: '*hides*'. |
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| 05:13.07 | karl_w_w | but it's like you're using a touchscreen Shirik, what's not to love?! |
| 05:13.15 | Shirik | ?? |
| 05:14.14 | Neffi | like when you flick a touchpad and the win8 start screen comes up? |
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| 06:11.12 | Neffi | Semlar: http://youtu.be/3T1c7GkzRQQ |
| 06:11.23 | Semlar | no neffi |
| 06:11.53 | Neffi | :( |
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| 07:55.41 | mikma | neffi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My_UxVYd680 |
| 07:56.54 | Neffi | lol |
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| 10:58.22 | rot | yo...I'm implementing a "comms" protocol for my addon...without AceComms or similar.... |
| 10:58.36 | rot | and I was wondering which "separator" should I use |
| 10:59.46 | rot | right now, I'm using the "z"..i (where i is the argument number in the 'encoded' message), but it feels like "wrong" |
| 11:03.41 | Semlar | depends on what you're packing |
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| 11:04.45 | Semlar | are the items variable length, limited character set or what |
| 11:04.47 | Icicle | Good Morning |
| 11:05.40 | Semlar | sup |
| 11:06.03 | Icicle | leveling my druid, then back to lua coding |
| 11:06.30 | Semlar | rot: what are you sending |
| 11:07.52 | nevcairiel | just send pascal-strings (string preceeded by its length), no need for seperators and possibly escaping the seperator in the acutal content, keeps complexity down |
| 11:08.36 | Semlar | well, you could also just use a single character as a separator as long as it's never going to appear in the content |
| 11:10.23 | Semlar | if you know the length of the data beforehand you don't need separators either |
| 11:12.58 | rot | sorry, I was looking at AceSerialize |
| 11:13.14 | rot | ...I'm sending various data types anyway |
| 11:13.27 | rot | most of the times number and strings tho |
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| 11:13.54 | rot | right now, i'm exchanging itemLinks |
| 11:14.09 | Semlar | you probably don't need the entire link though |
| 11:14.26 | rot | nope, I just need the itemString |
| 11:14.52 | rot | I'm sending Links cause you get links usually, but I could easily change that |
| 11:15.05 | rot | ...or...I could send just IDs |
| 11:15.15 | Semlar | depends on what information you're sending |
| 11:15.31 | rot | I need the links to "craft" CompareTooltips |
| 11:15.34 | Semlar | you can just send the id if you don't need things like socket info and stuff |
| 11:15.57 | nevcairiel | item ids miss info about gems, reforges, enchants and whatnot, if you care for these |
| 11:16.06 | Semlar | doesn't sound like it |
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| 11:16.21 | rot | well, I don't really care about these indeed |
| 11:17.52 | rot | so, should I just change the "z"..i to some "strange" character instead? |
| 11:18.10 | rot | like "^"..i would be just better |
| 11:18.27 | Semlar | why do you need i |
| 11:18.44 | rot | mmmh, you're right, I don't really need that either |
| 11:19.01 | Semlar | if you're splitting the string you know the argument number based on the order |
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| 11:19.23 | rot | yeah |
| 11:19.34 | rot | so i can just iterate the string |
| 11:19.35 | Semlar | and i would personally use a separator outside of the normal range of characters but it really depends on what you're sending |
| 11:19.53 | rot | Semlar that was my idea, but how do you achive that? |
| 11:19.54 | Semlar | i mean if you could get away with using a comma or something, why not |
| 11:20.26 | rot | "outside of the normal range of characters" this would be neat |
| 11:20.56 | Semlar | lua lets you just do like "\002" to insert a character |
| 11:20.59 | nevcairiel | if its addon comms, use something like \1 |
| 11:21.16 | nevcairiel | only \0 is not allowed |
| 11:21.18 | Semlar | although make sure it's something that won't break anything |
| 11:21.51 | Semlar | you can look at the ascii table |
| 11:21.52 | rot | it's addon comms |
| 11:22.36 | Semlar | 32 to like 126 are normal characters |
| 11:23.21 | rot | if they follow the ASCII standard, I'll just use one of the first chars |
| 11:23.49 | nevcairiel | above 127 can still happen in unicode names and such, using low value chars is probably better |
| 11:24.06 | Semlar | it only really matters if you allow user input or something |
| 11:24.13 | rot | also, should I keep the a fixed prefix? |
| 11:24.32 | rot | right now, I'm using the prefix to send different "commands" around |
| 11:24.48 | Semlar | the prefix for SendAddonMessage? |
| 11:24.52 | rot | yes |
| 11:25.00 | Semlar | the prefix is really meant to identify your addon |
| 11:25.08 | Semlar | not send different types of messages |
| 11:25.11 | nevcairiel | yeah its better to stick to one prefix |
| 11:25.16 | rot | right now, I'm sending MyAddon_command1/MyAddon_command2 |
| 11:25.20 | Semlar | i would pick one prefix to identify your addon |
| 11:25.28 | Semlar | and probably one shorter than that |
| 11:25.44 | Semlar | and i would add your own prefix to the message body |
| 11:25.49 | Semlar | to identify the message type |
| 11:25.58 | rot | ok, so as prefix I should send MyAddon...and the first "msg" string as command |
| 11:26.01 | Semlar | because you're limited to how many prefixes addons can register |
| 11:26.11 | Semlar | and you don't want to just waste them all |
| 11:26.29 | rot | oook |
| 11:26.42 | rot | I guess I'll rework the "comms" part then :D |
| 11:26.45 | Semlar | i mean you can use a single character to identify the type of message you're sending if you want |
| 11:26.54 | Semlar | like 0-9 could be 10 different message types |
| 11:27.14 | rot | yep |
| 11:27.24 | Semlar | which is probably enough for whatever you're doing |
| 11:27.43 | Semlar | or you can use letters if it makes it easier to identify what they mean |
| 11:28.19 | nevcairiel | personalyl i would probably use a 3-letter code or something like that, so its somewhat human understandable :d |
| 11:28.20 | rot | SendAddonMessage("MyAddon", "\009command\009data1\009data2", "RAID") |
| 11:28.38 | rot | SendAddonMessage("MyAddon", "\009CMD\009data1\009data2", "RAID") |
| 11:28.43 | rot | like this? |
| 11:29.42 | Semlar | well the first one isn't necessary |
| 11:30.05 | Semlar | wait is that your separator |
| 11:30.14 | rot | yeah, that was the idea |
| 11:30.15 | Semlar | or to identify the type of message |
| 11:30.33 | rot | \009 should be the separator |
| 11:30.42 | rot | and I would use the first argument as "command" |
| 11:30.55 | Semlar | okay well you don't need a separator at the start |
| 11:31.01 | nevcairiel | dont necessarily need to start with a seperator, since the beginning is a mrker of itself |
| 11:31.09 | rot | ook |
| 11:31.19 | rot | SendAddonMessage("MyA", "CMD\009data1\009data2", "RAID") |
| 11:31.21 | Semlar | but you do need your command or whatever |
| 11:31.31 | nevcairiel | CMD is the command, pay attention Semlar! |
| 11:31.33 | rot | can't CMD be my command? |
| 11:31.44 | Semlar | i didn't say it couldn't be! |
| 11:31.53 | rot | SendAddonMessage("MyA", "MyA\009CMD\009data1\009data2", "RAID") |
| 11:32.08 | rot | were you proposing to add the prefix in the "message" too? |
| 11:32.15 | Semlar | no no |
| 11:32.17 | Semlar | your last one was fine |
| 11:32.18 | nevcairiel | nah, thats just redundant data |
| 11:32.22 | rot | good |
| 11:32.35 | rot | I'll see what I can do then, cheers guys |
| 11:33.11 | Semlar | you just need to split your string on your separator and then use the first result as the command and the rest you can figure out i'm sure |
| 11:34.46 | Semlar | i've been tracking the spell school of abilities from the combat log so i can color them in the nameplates and my addon is throwing a fit because chi torpedo is switching between physical and nature or something |
| 11:35.21 | Icicle | you would prob find the same with mind spike as well |
| 11:36.00 | Semlar | i'm not too concerned |
| 11:36.22 | karl_w_w | some spells are multiple schools |
| 11:36.30 | karl_w_w | several spells in fact |
| 11:36.31 | Semlar | now that is more of a problem |
| 11:36.37 | Semlar | because they aren't colored in the color table |
| 11:36.54 | Semlar | which means they're defaulting to white |
| 11:37.40 | Semlar | i'm not sure what the best way to handle them is |
| 11:38.03 | nevcairiel | here, have a spell with 3 schools http://www.wowhead.com/spell=117014 |
| 11:38.08 | Semlar | i could pick one of the schools to override the rest |
| 11:38.17 | Semlar | have sort of a priority list |
| 11:38.24 | Semlar | or just leave it white |
| 11:38.32 | nevcairiel | make a hybrid color of all three" |
| 11:38.34 | nevcairiel | ! |
| 11:38.45 | Semlar | that would likely not work too well |
| 11:38.50 | Semlar | i think i tried that once |
| 11:39.23 | Semlar | i could also manually pick a color that i think is appropriate for most combinations |
| 11:39.41 | Semlar | i mean what would you want fire, nature and frost to look like |
| 11:39.48 | nevcairiel | my combat text occasionally has some damage effects in a dark red, which doesnt match any school color |
| 11:39.51 | Semlar | mud? |
| 11:39.51 | nevcairiel | not sure what these are |
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| 11:40.07 | Semlar | see dark red i originally associated with bleeds or physical |
| 11:40.16 | nevcairiel | yeah but thats not it |
| 11:40.24 | Semlar | physical is colored as yellow in the combat log |
| 11:40.41 | nevcairiel | white in combat text for me |
| 11:40.43 | karl_w_w | physical debuffs have a red border though |
| 11:40.56 | Neffi | have a spell with 7 schools http://www.wowhead.com/spell=124916 |
| 11:41.04 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 11:41.15 | nevcairiel | Neffi: buit thats instant, no cast thing to color! |
| 11:41.20 | Semlar | chaos bolt |
| 11:41.29 | nevcairiel | chaos bolt is only shadow |
| 11:41.30 | nevcairiel | i checked! |
| 11:41.35 | Semlar | WHAT |
| 11:41.43 | Semlar | i could have sworn it was chaos |
| 11:41.51 | karl_w_w | i thought so too |
| 11:41.57 | Semlar | maybe they changed it |
| 11:41.59 | Neffi | http://wowpedia.org/COMBAT_LOG_EVENT#Spell_School |
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| 11:42.27 | Semlar | i'm almost positive the original chaos bolt was multiple schools |
| 11:42.27 | Neffi | Oh nvm, for a second I thought it had proposed coloring for mixed-school spells |
| 11:42.39 | nevcairiel | nah it only has a bitmask :d |
| 11:43.08 | Semlar | for multiple schools i think i might pick out a "predominant" color that overrides the other ones |
| 11:43.23 | Semlar | like shadow would probably have the highest value |
| 11:44.15 | Semlar | i could try combining the colors but i don't know how you'd pull that off |
| 11:44.19 | karl_w_w | isn't it funny that flamestrike is fire damage and not flamestrike damage? :P |
| 11:44.35 | karl_w_w | and stormstrike is physical damage and not stormstrike damage |
| 11:44.47 | nevcairiel | didnt they remove a bunch of these combined damage things from players again for pvp reasons? |
| 11:45.09 | Semlar | i thought stormstrike had a nature component but who knows |
| 11:45.10 | karl_w_w | not that i know of |
| 11:45.26 | Semlar | i haven't played my shaman since BC |
| 11:45.29 | karl_w_w | they removed school-specific resistances |
| 11:46.07 | karl_w_w | mages need a spell that does chromatic damage |
| 11:46.18 | karl_w_w | mostly because the word chromatic is so awesome |
| 11:46.52 | Neffi | ^ |
| 11:47.20 | Semlar | chaos bolt is drastically different from what i remember anyway |
| 11:47.46 | Semlar | it used to just pierce through anything and apparently that was changed in wrath |
| 11:48.07 | karl_w_w | except immunity |
| 11:48.32 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure it could shoot through a paladin's bubble |
| 11:48.39 | Semlar | that was like the whole appeal |
| 11:48.43 | karl_w_w | said every forum thread ever |
| 11:49.34 | Semlar | maybe it was just absorbs |
| 11:49.35 | Neffi | said the developers |
| 11:49.38 | Neffi | At least one of them |
| 11:50.00 | karl_w_w | i reckon they changed it to penetrate nothing because they were so tired of seeing threads saying it's bugged it won't go through paladin bubble |
| 11:50.23 | Neffi | I might be remembering it incorrectly, but I remember that the reasoning behind Chaos Bolt was to give Warlocks some unique and undeniable strenght -- a hard hitting nuke that pierced even immunity |
| 11:51.07 | karl_w_w | or in blizzard speak, cos they never admit to changing anything because of complaining, "we felt the spell was unnecessarily confusing" |
| 11:51.34 | Semlar | all i know is the warlock in my group does stupid amounts of damage when there is more than one target because he can chaos bolt two things at once |
| 11:51.37 | Brulath | (behind the times) stormstrike becomes nature damage during ascendance, but Ithink it becomes a different ability also |
| 11:52.06 | Semlar | he ONE SHOT someone who was mind controlled on garrosh with a chaos bolt once |
| 11:52.15 | Semlar | they died |
| 11:52.52 | karl_w_w | yeah it becomes stormblast during ascendance |
| 11:54.02 | Semlar | Chaos Bolt cannot be resisted, and pierces through defensive immunities. |
| 11:54.25 | Semlar | did it really not pierce bubbles |
| 11:54.40 | Semlar | because that would be a very confusing tooltip |
| 11:54.49 | Neffi | What's stormblast? |
| 11:54.59 | karl_w_w | stormstrike during ascendance |
| 11:55.20 | karl_w_w | pure nature damage |
| 11:55.24 | Neffi | Oh, I thought you meant it became the spell school stormblast |
| 11:55.24 | karl_w_w | fucking amazing fun |
| 11:55.32 | karl_w_w | nah |
| 11:56.03 | karl_w_w | unless you want me to make up a school with that name |
| 11:56.17 | karl_w_w | I reckon nature, physical and fire |
| 11:56.47 | Semlar | what about fingerblast |
| 11:57.29 | Semlar | neffi |
| 11:57.30 | karl_w_w | that's just painful |
| 11:58.59 | Neffi | lol |
| 11:59.39 | Semlar | i should make that addon that puts a giant arrow on the screen pointing to my nearest healer |
| 11:59.55 | Semlar | maybe i would die less often |
| 12:00.04 | Neffi | i gotta sleep now. but semlar i'm resubbed to wow so add me Neffi#1897. i'll be on tomoz |
| 12:00.23 | karl_w_w | or maybe you should worry less about where your healer is and more about what you're standing in :P |
| 12:00.24 | Semlar | what level are you up to |
| 12:00.58 | Neffi | i have (I think) 3 90s, probably like 3-4 80s, and few 70s, a few 60s and a bunch of misc alts |
| 12:01.41 | Neffi | and im gonna level a horde druid on Emerald Dream. he's 40 now |
| 12:01.52 | Icicle | emerald dream us? |
| 12:01.55 | Icicle | or eu |
| 12:01.55 | Neffi | mhm |
| 12:02.01 | Icicle | ah, that was my old realm |
| 12:02.12 | Icicle | used to be part of the guild Absolute there they were a big raiding guild |
| 12:03.34 | Semlar | i'm on wyrmrest |
| 12:04.15 | Semlar | you know what i think i'm going to make all friendly npc plates have an alpha of like 0.2 |
| 12:04.38 | Semlar | i don't need these things cluttering up my screen |
| 12:06.25 | karl_w_w | i remember the good old days where i used to heal using friendly nameplates |
| 12:06.47 | karl_w_w | i really dont know how I did it |
| 12:06.53 | Semlar | that doesn't sound like something i would recommend |
| 12:07.11 | karl_w_w | i was a good healer as well |
| 12:07.37 | karl_w_w | they must have moved around a lot less then than they do now |
| 12:08.37 | Semlar | i'm a compulsive mover |
| 12:09.54 | Semlar | i'm thinking i would die a lot if my healers were trying to heal me by nameplate |
| 12:11.06 | karl_w_w | you could make them stack up so they wouldnt move much |
| 12:11.14 | karl_w_w | dont know if you still can |
| 12:13.07 | Semlar | i need to play around with these nameplates to figure out how hard it is to click on them in combat |
| 12:13.36 | Semlar | i scaled them way down to just barely taller than the text |
| 12:14.10 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure you'd get used to it |
| 12:15.30 | Semlar | how difficult would it be to clone this operating system to another hard drive |
| 12:16.04 | Semlar | i need to move windows over to another drive |
| 12:16.29 | rot | take the chance to have a "new" installation |
| 12:16.31 | Semlar | i might have to just reinstall it |
| 12:16.55 | Semlar | i don't know how it handles hardware changes like that |
| 12:18.40 | Semlar | i'm also not sure how many times i can use this key |
| 12:19.00 | karl_w_w | there is good tolerance |
| 12:19.22 | karl_w_w | i think you can change all but 3 pieces of hardware at a time or something |
| 12:20.11 | Semlar | yeah it threw a fit when i built a new computer and moved the old hard drives into it |
| 12:20.32 | nevcairiel | if its only a license thing, worst case you need to talk to the automated licensing phoine thing |
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| 12:37.37 | Semlar | should i register UNIT_HEALTH in addition to UNIT_HEALTH_FREQUENT |
| 12:37.43 | Semlar | they appear to register both in the framexml |
| 12:38.49 | nevcairiel | frequent only triggers when some cvar is set, doesnt it? |
| 12:39.25 | Semlar | i have no idea |
| 12:39.52 | Semlar | i do know it never appeared to fire when i would die in the brawlers arena and rez outside |
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| 12:41.41 | Semlar | i was using it to update a healthbar and it would just stay at 0% until i took damage |
| 12:42.39 | nevcairiel | that error has plagued a few addons, when you rez to full 100% it wouldnt notice |
| 12:43.05 | Semlar | do you think UNIT_HEALTH fires or should i do something else |
| 12:43.16 | Funkeh` | no frequent triggers all the time |
| 12:43.21 | Funkeh` | prety sure blizz uf uses frequent |
| 12:43.26 | Semlar | frequent was what i was watching |
| 12:43.54 | Semlar | the blizzard frames register both events |
| 12:44.33 | Funkeh` | no was in response to needing a cvar |
| 12:44.40 | Funkeh` | that was when it was first implemented years ago |
| 12:45.28 | Fisker | hey Funkeh` |
| 12:45.34 | Fisker | I did it |
| 12:45.35 | Funkeh` | hi |
| 12:45.41 | Fisker | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/sales.png |
| 12:46.39 | Funkeh` | eh? |
| 12:46.51 | Funkeh` | what did yo put in |
| 12:47.57 | Semlar | --PLEEEEEASE FIX ME. This makes me very very sad. |
| 12:48.03 | Semlar | lol |
| 12:48.16 | Semlar | this is in CombatUnitFrame.lua |
| 12:48.21 | Semlar | er Compact |
| 12:50.55 | Fisker | what do you mean Funkeh`? |
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| 12:51.49 | Funkeh` | nothing |
| 12:51.53 | Funkeh` | fail zooming |
| 12:52.42 | Fisker | ah ok |
| 13:02.41 | karl_w_w | playing dota 2, our only support says "why the fuck is the courier still walking?" |
| 13:03.48 | nevcairiel | as of complete random pugs ever play their role properly |
| 13:04.03 | nevcairiel | as if* |
| 13:04.07 | Fisker | But are you impressed Funkeh` ? |
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| 13:34.10 | Icicle | and Ding 84 :D |
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| 14:03.45 | tissle | is it not possible to change a buttons SetAttribute after it's been created? Im trying to do it from script, but it throws a nil value error - however, if i /script it, it works ? |
| 14:04.51 | Maldivia | probably referencing the wrong object then |
| 14:06.02 | tissle | hm, myea that could be it, imma throw in some prints in my code and see where my variable stops being true |
| 14:09.43 | tissle | yup, that was it, using button:SetAttribute seems to be wrong. however, the print() i have in my code returns correct value for variable button - do i need to force an evaluation of "button" before wow acccepts it as reference? |
| 14:11.34 | tissle | local button = "MyButton"..i | print(button) <this returns MyButton1> | button:SetAttribute() <this throws an error> | MyButton1:SetAttribute() <this works> |
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| 14:29.32 | tissle | solved my problem by making my variable global, and calling _G[MyButton]:SetAttribute - but how do i do to keep it local? |
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| 14:44.19 | Maldivia | your button is a string, not a reference to the actual object, that's why |
| 14:55.54 | tissle | so _G[] makes it return the table reference, and button: only makes it say "MyButton1" ? |
| 14:59.28 | Brulath | there's probably a more efficient way, but if you create a local table and use it the same way you're using the global one it'd be... well, local. |
| 15:00.54 | tissle | Mkay |
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| 15:02.25 | Maldivia | how is your button created? via CreateFrame, or via XML? |
| 15:03.57 | tissle | CreateFrame |
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| 15:06.00 | Maldivia | then you already have a reference to the button |
| 15:06.18 | Maldivia | local myButton = CreateFrame("Button", blah, blah) |
| 15:06.26 | Maldivia | myButton:SetAttribute(.....) |
| 15:10.14 | tissle | i do, but that is on creation. this is in another function that fires in response to events later on |
| 15:10.26 | tissle | i have given all my frames a name (mybutton1,2,3 etc) |
| 15:14.52 | Maldivia | well, unless you save the reference some where, or the event is fired on that frame, you'll have problems getting the reference back |
| 15:15.03 | Maldivia | but ofcourse, naming them makes a global reference for you |
| 15:20.07 | tissle | yes, and that is what i want to reproduce |
| 15:20.46 | tissle | i do a for loop, and try to call MyButton<number>:SetAttribute() but i am not good enough to make that work |
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| 16:32.02 | Jamash | tissle: _G["MyButton"..i]:SetAttribute() |
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| 16:45.53 | tissle | Jamash: Thank you |
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| 17:19.48 | Jamash | tissle: you're welcome :) |
| 17:24.49 | Jamash | what kind of keyboard do you guys use for coding/gaming? |
| 17:25.48 | rot | cheap amazon one |
| 17:25.52 | rot | 11euros |
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| 17:27.36 | rot | but if you send me a couple of 100euro, I could buy a DasKeyboard |
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| 17:41.41 | Maldivia | Jamash: I have an old logitech -- hmm, come to think if it, it's probably over 10 years old now! |
| 17:42.14 | Maldivia | make that from Jan 13 1999 :) |
| 17:43.54 | Maldivia | hmm, that can't be right... |
| 17:44.00 | zenzelezz | I don't switch keyboards between gaming and coding |
| 17:44.15 | zenzelezz | currently I'm using a Qpad MK-80 |
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| 18:03.05 | Jamash | Shirik: I'm getting a locale warning when committing/tagging to a wowinterface SVN repo: < http://pastebin.com/EkBDWUxW >. The internet suggests that the locale need to be installed or updated on the server. |
| 18:03.30 | Jamash | *needs |
| 18:05.05 | Arrowmaster | dolby: ^^ |
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| 18:21.12 | dolby | Jamash: what repo? I'm able to commit to mine via cli? |
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| 18:21.37 | Silvanas | hello |
| 18:22.22 | zenzelezz | ohai |
| 18:24.31 | Silvanas | the caching of GUID's makes it quite unreleiable |
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| 18:30.27 | Silvanas | do you guys (or the women) know any good way to work with caches? my gues is to retry each frame until the function gives a non nil result? |
| 18:38.01 | tissle | query: GameTooltip:SetSpell() wants the spellindex and booktype if i want to show a spell tooltip - is there any easier way? |
| 18:47.39 | Silvanas | there no easyer wauy to show tooltips other then using a tooltip frame (it does not have tobe the GameToolTip tho |
| 18:49.42 | Silvanas | but what spell do yo uwant ? |
| 18:50.07 | Silvanas | becase maybe you can just use GameTooltip:SetSpellByID() |
| 18:51.31 | Silvanas | the id is the id of the spell like you can find it on wowhead http://www.wowhead.com/spell=1064 so chain heal is id 1064 |
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| 19:04.27 | Shirik | omg google chrome has best feature since tabs |
| 19:04.47 | Shirik | chrome now tells you which tab a sound is coming from |
| 19:05.40 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 19:05.45 | Fisker | this is years old :( |
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| 19:06.09 | Shirik | no u Fisker |
| 19:06.16 | Fisker | yes me Shirik |
| 19:12.30 | Shirik | ccox: ping |
| 19:20.47 | Icicle | Position 1211 in der Warteschlange |
| 19:20.54 | Icicle | German is Shizar... und so ist die Realms |
| 19:23.05 | karl_w_w | man i wish i got on the bitcoin train when I first heard about it |
| 19:24.28 | Jamash | dolby: I'm using tortoiseSVN to commit to LearningAid Beta http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12658-LearningAidBeta.html |
| 19:25.38 | Jamash | karl_w_w: I wish bitcoin would die in a virtual fire |
| 19:25.49 | karl_w_w | why's that? |
| 19:26.43 | Kodiack | Bitcoin is amazing! |
| 19:26.55 | Jamash | karl_w_w: because it's the beanie baby of the internet |
| 19:27.29 | karl_w_w | it seems absolutely ridiculous to me |
| 19:27.44 | karl_w_w | but I wouldn't have minded get rich off it :P |
| 19:27.57 | Shirik | lmfao, this is so hockey http://deadspin.com/flames-canucks-features-line-brawl-two-seconds-into-gam-1504407615?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow |
| 19:28.17 | Shirik | Cairenn: ^ |
| 19:34.57 | zenzelezz | "Hey baby, did you just extractor trick? Because you're 11 out of 10" - oh god, I would so try that out; it couldn't make my success rate any lower anyway |
| 19:37.00 | Icicle | in XML.... backslashes for path variables |
| 19:37.04 | Icicle | in Lua... forward slashes |
| 19:37.12 | Icicle | whom am I to believe! |
| 19:37.27 | karl_w_w | nobody, they're all liars |
| 19:37.30 | kd3|hate`net | you can use backslashes if you really want, just double them |
| 19:37.46 | kd3|hate`net | windows is stupid, using backslashes for directory separators and character escapes |
| 19:39.27 | kd3 | local texture = "Interface\\Icons\\Temp" -- good. |
| 19:39.37 | kd3 | local texture = "Interface\Icons\Temp" -- bad. |
| 19:39.47 | Icicle | agreed |
| 19:40.28 | tissle | thank you Silvanas |
| 19:41.51 | Icicle | and thanks for clearing that up kd3 :) |
| 19:42.04 | kd3 | np |
| 19:55.03 | Icicle | my attempt at vardumping in a wow lua world |
| 19:55.05 | Icicle | ChatFrame1:AddMessage('Your player is an idiot : ' .. playerClass .. '; ' .. getClass() .. '.'); |
| 19:55.42 | Icicle | one line with idiot, the other without, the one without being the one I want |
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| 20:24.19 | Silvanas | i made my own Silvanas.DebugVar() function in my Silvanas lib that i use in every addon i make |
| 20:24.38 | Silvanas | it nicely print out nil & tables without giving errors |
| 20:32.20 | Icicle | thats a good idea |
| 20:34.34 | Icicle | and I got my code to work :D |
| 20:34.38 | Icicle | ah such a good feeling |
| 20:35.17 | Maldivia | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsmQ2uwItKU -- for those intrested in NFL and/or Game of Thrones |
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| 21:11.22 | Arrowmaster | kd3|hate`net: WHAT! http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3273791/berserk-gets-oliver-stone-refn-and-gans/ |
| 21:11.40 | Icicle | think he is just kd3 now |
| 21:11.52 | kd3 | now I am |
| 21:12.03 | kd3 | holy crap |
| 21:22.36 | nevcairiel | Maldivia: i didnt realize it at first, but why is the text overlay german? or is that a youtube trick to be language adaptive? :p |
| 21:22.55 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: it's from an Austrian TV channel, it's their intro |
| 21:23.31 | Maldivia | or well, so I've been told |
| 21:23.36 | nevcairiel | didnt think anyone outside of the US would make such a fuss about it :p |
| 21:24.07 | Maldivia | well, it's an awesome intro for today's games though :) |
| 21:24.31 | Maldivia | or for us Europeans -- tonight's |
| 21:25.03 | Maldivia | and patriots are getting their asses kicked at the moment |
| 21:25.19 | kd3 | it's only the first half |
| 21:25.36 | Maldivia | pats haven't had a decent play yet... |
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| 21:36.00 | nevcairiel | I always thought its funny that europe basically never watches one game of football, but then so many people get excited over the superbowl |
| 21:39.08 | Icicle | commercials I think |
| 21:43.25 | ccox | Shirik - ack |
| 21:44.00 | Cairenn | Shirik: god damn it I hate it when I go out to watch the Saturday night fights and a hockey game breaks out. |
| 21:45.52 | ccox | Cairenn: agreed. How can they ruin our regular beer drinking and fight watching with something as boring as hockey? |
| 21:45.59 | Cairenn | I know, right? |
| 21:46.06 | Cairenn | *snark* |
| 21:54.21 | Thunder_Child | Barbarians |
| 21:54.56 | Shirik | http://themetapicture.com/ultra-realistic-fantasy-dolls-its-scary-how-real-they-look/ |
| 21:55.00 | Shirik | courtsey Cairenn |
| 21:55.05 | Shirik | courtesy* |
| 21:55.20 | Cairenn | They are absolutely adorable! *want* |
| 21:58.04 | Cairenn | The hard part would be picking just one. Or two. Or ... |
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| 22:17.50 | Arrowmaster | IT job listed in the local classifieds today, part time position with no benefits, but they list a starting yearly salary, wonder how that works |
| 22:19.06 | Thunder_Child | Badly |
| 22:22.00 | Arrowmaster | im going to apply anyway |
| 22:37.43 | Mr_Rabies | looking on deviantart for a new background for the guild website |
| 22:37.45 | Mr_Rabies | i regret everything |
| 22:38.37 | Mr_Rabies | i've already seen inflation giantess fetish art and who knows what else, sorting by recent popularity |
| 22:38.47 | Mr_Rabies | for "warcraft" |
| 22:39.01 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 22:46.10 | Mr_Rabies | i wish deviantart was more like pixiv :/ |
| 22:46.19 | Mr_Rabies | i doubt there's much wow art on pixiv since wow isn't much of a thing in japan |
| 22:49.25 | Arrowmaster | searching monster for job listings and this showed up locally "Laser Survivability/Lethality Modeling and Stimulation Analyst" as an IT job and they do want somebody with linux experience |
| 22:50.58 | Dagmar | ...and possibly a persian cat. |
| 22:52.15 | Arrowmaster | a basic qualification for the position is "Experience with laser weapons technologies" though |
| 22:52.51 | Gnarfoz | sounds like just the job for you, then |
| 22:52.52 | Gnarfoz | ;] |
| 22:52.55 | Arrowmaster | too bad because even though its a job on the AFB it doesnt have an already existing security clearance a requirement like a lot of 'entry level' jobs do |
| 23:01.50 | Jamash | Arrowmaster: Simulation or Stimulation? |
| 23:02.14 | Arrowmaster | i copy and pasted the exact job title from monster |
| 23:02.24 | Arrowmaster | so yeah |
| 23:02.26 | Icicle | Night guys |
| 23:02.29 | Icicle | sleep well |
| 23:02.39 | Jamash | Stimulation Analyst sounds kinda pervy tbh |
| 23:03.08 | Jamash | yes, I know what the S in laser stands for |
| 23:09.26 | Corrodias | analist |
| 23:13.49 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: what would you say the minimum pay for an entry level 12 hour shift 3-4 day alternating data center job be |
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| 23:19.10 | Arrowmaster | haha i found a job listing that says windows 8 experience preferred |
| 23:20.31 | Humbedooh | ! |
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| 23:46.01 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Considering that schdule is a *motherfucker* it should be $60k minimum for someone who knows how to label cables and crimp ethernet |
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| 23:46.53 | Thunder_Child | That's hardly that bad |
| 23:47.10 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: well i just applied for one that was 6am-6pm sun-tues with alternating wednesdays and it said starting was upto $18/h |
| 23:47.11 | Thunder_Child | I'd prefer it over my 10 hour 5 day a week job. |
| 23:47.30 | Dagmar | You're not regularly doing 36 hours in three days |
| 23:47.46 | Thunder_Child | no, I do 30 hours |
| 23:47.49 | Thunder_Child | in 3 days |
| 23:48.06 | Thunder_Child | 2 more a day is meh |
| 23:48.17 | Dagmar | Problem one, 12 hour shifts basically mean in between shifts you *don't* have a personal life |
| 23:48.47 | Dagmar | Problem two is that they typically alternate so if tehre anything you wanted to do that's on a weekly schedule, you have to write it off as impossible |
| 23:49.21 | Thunder_Child | Yea, but according to that scedule thurday-sat is always off |
| 23:49.25 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: All you'd better be doing is holding keys for people |
| 23:49.39 | Thunder_Child | I'd rather do 50 hours in 4 days than 5 |
| 23:49.44 | Dagmar | If it's a proper data center it's actually a lot of work |
| 23:49.45 | Thunder_Child | gives me an extra free day |
| 23:50.28 | Dagmar | Keep in mind that a data center is where people are spending *shittons* of money on their systems |
| 23:50.46 | Dagmar | They have no budgetary excuse to be offering people $36k other than "fuck you" |
| 23:51.15 | Dagmar | You can beat that delivering fucking pizzas in a suburb |
| 23:53.25 | Dagmar | Frankly I'm going to go ahead and say that a datacenter trying to pay it's workers $36k is just inviting unnecessary downtime |
| 23:54.56 | Humbedooh | $36k??! |
| 23:55.13 | Humbedooh | that's...not much :| |
| 23:55.55 | Cairenn | I'd take it |
| 23:56.11 | Cairenn | (Well no, actually I wouldn't, because I love my sites) |
| 23:59.17 | Arrowmaster | i just need paychecks again, my last was was for $115 due to the holidays |
