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| 01:47.22 | kd3 | >.<... t16 pants from celestials, then warforged pants from ordos |
| 01:47.33 | kd3 | after already enchanting/reforging/gemming t16 |
| 01:47.34 | kd3 | bah |
| 01:48.29 | Semlar | how many set pieces do you have |
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| 01:49.14 | Neffi | Does anyone know off the top of their head, the video of a Blizz employee going over their creative process, that showed a peak at their level creation tool? |
| 01:49.23 | Arrowmaster | kd3: i went though rightstuf again after all the sales were announced, i desperately want to place this order but i know its too much (i can afford it but its a lot) |
| 01:49.30 | Neffi | The guy was showing how he deforms a landscape, then paints on top of it |
| 01:50.03 | kd3 | how much is 'a lot'? |
| 01:50.21 | Arrowmaster | current cart is $550 |
| 01:50.27 | kd3 | lets out an impressed whistle |
| 01:51.16 | Semlar | i don't know what the video is called but i did study some screenshots of the tool they use to figure out how their maps work |
| 01:51.56 | Neffi | I'm looking for that video in particular, showing their zone design process |
| 01:52.39 | Arrowmaster | kd3: i dont know why i have some things in the cart when they are over $30 for a half season series |
| 01:52.41 | Semlar | could have possibly been as far back as a BC conference |
| 01:53.17 | Arrowmaster | kd3: like P&S w/G, other than thats its hilarious |
| 01:53.24 | Semlar | i talked with some people who built a similar tool during my research |
| 01:54.32 | Semlar | they basically could just go over the tiles and raise or lower them and the surrounding area depending on the pressure settings |
| 01:55.55 | Semlar | i think it was called noggit |
| 01:57.52 | jleclanche | Neffi: I think it was in one of the wrath behind the scenes dvds |
| 01:58.17 | Neffi | I just found it |
| 01:58.20 | Neffi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FjuEPnuKtU |
| 01:58.28 | Neffi | It was at Cata blizzcon |
| 01:58.35 | jleclanche | ah |
| 01:58.40 | jleclanche | thats a completely different one |
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| 01:59.01 | jleclanche | yeah, i see what you mean |
| 01:59.11 | jleclanche | but they do show it in wotlk too |
| 01:59.16 | jleclanche | have a look at the dvd |
| 01:59.17 | Neffi | I'm looking to get into game design and we're discussing it in #lua |
| 01:59.28 | Neffi | I was wondering what kind of toolsets were available for world design |
| 01:59.41 | jleclanche | Neffi: http://reddit.com/r/gamedev |
| 01:59.58 | jleclanche | toolsets tend to be bound to the framework you use |
| 02:00.04 | jleclanche | cryengine, unity, quake |
| 02:00.10 | jleclanche | they all have level designers |
| 02:00.23 | jleclanche | sorry not quake, whatever its name was |
| 02:00.36 | jleclanche | the go-to framework-agnostic tool is blender |
| 02:01.04 | Neffi | I'm looking into Unity right now, but I'm not keen on using C# |
| 02:01.27 | Neffi | I can't afford the crazy AAA engines |
| 02:02.40 | jleclanche | unity has its own language |
| 02:02.43 | jleclanche | you dont use c# much |
| 02:02.46 | jleclanche | but yeah, i get you |
| 02:03.05 | jleclanche | if you're more into c++ theres a couple of interesting engines |
| 02:03.31 | Neffi | Not so much |
| 02:03.37 | jleclanche | what then? |
| 02:04.02 | Neffi | Another guy in #lua and me were exploring possibilities for engines where we can do all game logic in Lua |
| 02:04.14 | jleclanche | thats nearly all engines |
| 02:04.40 | jleclanche | unity has lua support i think |
| 02:04.57 | Neffi | Nope |
| 02:05.01 | jleclanche | hm yeah no |
| 02:05.02 | jleclanche | its Boo |
| 02:05.11 | Neffi | I'm gonna look into getting Lua into Unity via CLR or some such |
| 02:05.29 | Neffi | but I think the free version will be limited in that respect |
| 02:07.07 | jleclanche | ah theres the one i was looking for |
| 02:07.09 | jleclanche | Urho3d |
| 02:07.18 | jleclanche | http://urho3d.github.io/ |
| 02:07.38 | jleclanche | Lua support, bullet physics |
| 02:08.16 | jleclanche | actively developped |
| 02:08.38 | jleclanche | android/ios/pi support, wow |
| 02:08.45 | jleclanche | this project has improved since last time i checked |
| 02:08.52 | jleclanche | and i was already pretty damn impressed |
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| 02:09.17 | jleclanche | sdl2! |
| 02:09.54 | Neffi | I'll check it out |
| 02:09.55 | Neffi | thanks |
| 02:09.56 | bleeter | I really shouldn't laugh.... https://twitter.com/apmd/status/412401086184427520 |
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| 02:38.04 | Sintacks | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/no-ingame-store |
| 02:38.11 | Sintacks | and that's the addon community for you |
| 02:38.24 | Sintacks | silly little addons |
| 02:38.26 | Sintacks | cuz fuck you blizzard |
| 02:39.32 | Neffi | http://dogecoin.com/ |
| 02:39.52 | Neffi | jleclanche: ^ you should accept donations to your wiki in those |
| 02:40.07 | jleclanche | wut? |
| 02:42.46 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/KGE6WIc.png lol |
| 02:42.52 | Neffi | bitcoin killer |
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| 03:09.55 | Shirik | ffs |
| 03:09.57 | Shirik | Neffi: |
| 03:10.05 | Shirik | I have been seeing that floating around |
| 03:10.08 | Shirik | and it really hurts my head |
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| 03:46.26 | airtonix | i don't normally agree with shirik, but when i do it's to destroy iliterate puppies |
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| 04:06.05 | Arrowmaster | kd3: i ended up ordering $380 worth of anime |
| 04:06.12 | Arrowmaster | damn sales |
| 04:06.23 | kd3 | ha |
| 04:09.34 | Arrowmaster | kd3: Angel Beats!, Baccano!, Bodacious Space Pirates, C - Control - Money of Soul and Possibility, Clannad, Clannad After Story, Horizon in the Middle of Nowhere, Horizon in the Middle of Nowhere II, Kanon, Kiddy Grade, Princess Jellyfish, Sakura Wars TV, Trinity Blood |
| 04:09.54 | Arrowmaster | saving the out of stock stuff for a later order |
| 04:16.48 | kd3 | all good choices |
| 04:30.38 | Sintacks | hmm. so when i have a vendor open, cursor_update fires rapidly |
| 04:30.58 | Sintacks | and makes the cursor .. icon or whatever change rapidly |
| 04:38.14 | airtonix | jleclanche: http://padolsey.github.io/sonic-creator/# |
| 04:42.13 | jleclanche | neat |
| 04:45.08 | airtonix | i like that it makes gifs and png thingos |
| 04:45.26 | jleclanche | airtonix: i cant figure out how to create a blob inside a directory in pygit2 |
| 04:46.21 | Shirik | you know what would be cool? |
| 04:46.23 | Shirik | If it wasn't python |
| 04:46.36 | jleclanche | okay, I cant figure out how to create a blob inside a directory in libgit2 |
| 04:46.38 | jleclanche | whats your point? |
| 04:46.44 | airtonix | inb4trollshirik |
| 04:47.18 | Shirik | I also like the sad face in the middle of this line: this._.beginPath(); |
| 04:47.37 | airtonix | wait wat? |
| 04:47.41 | Shirik | ._. |
| 04:47.43 | airtonix | are you calling that python? |
| 04:47.54 | Shirik | looks like python |
| 04:47.56 | airtonix | so dissapoint |
| 04:48.07 | Shirik | appears to be a dictionary definition |
| 04:48.12 | airtonix | such bad troll, much fail. wow |
| 04:48.13 | Shirik | oh I guess it's slightly off |
| 04:48.36 | Shirik | looking like python is just as bad as actually being python |
| 04:48.52 | jleclanche | it doesnt even sort of look like python |
| 04:48.58 | Shirik | how does it not? |
| 04:49.04 | airtonix | { |
| 04:49.05 | jleclanche | braces and semicolons for one? |
| 04:49.07 | airtonix | } |
| 04:49.08 | Shirik | it looks exactly like a dictionary definition, with the exception of the keys |
| 04:49.11 | jleclanche | anonymous functions? |
| 04:49.15 | Shirik | semicolons are legal in python |
| 04:49.18 | jleclanche | "new" declarations? |
| 04:49.54 | airtonix | because i refuse to believe the alternative, i will say that shirik is just trolling |
| 04:49.54 | jleclanche | im aware semicolons are legal, but they're even less used than in javascript not |
| 04:50.16 | jleclanche | oh and |
| 04:50.17 | jleclanche | / Here you can do custom stuff. |
| 04:50.20 | jleclanche | really. |
| 04:50.31 | Shirik | #define // # |
| 04:50.36 | jleclanche | man this stuff looks more like c++ than python |
| 04:50.47 | Shirik | yes because we see so many colons in C++ |
| 04:51.02 | jleclanche | you realize its just js right? |
| 04:51.27 | Shirik | js is just python running in a browser |
| 04:51.30 | jleclanche | sidenote |
| 04:51.37 | Shirik | they're both evil |
| 04:51.38 | jleclanche | this in-browser editor is neat |
| 04:51.42 | Shirik | agree |
| 04:52.03 | Shirik | except for one fatal flaw |
| 04:52.04 | airtonix | same editor as github uses in gists |
| 04:52.08 | Shirik | it allows for tabs |
| 04:52.34 | jleclanche | ... no it doesnt? |
| 04:52.38 | airtonix | yeah it does |
| 04:52.41 | Shirik | it does on mine |
| 04:52.42 | airtonix | for me anyway |
| 04:52.53 | airtonix | well no |
| 04:52.57 | airtonix | they're just 4 spaces |
| 04:52.59 | jleclanche | ah right it only allows tabs at the beginning of line |
| 04:53.10 | Shirik | orly |
| 04:53.13 | jleclanche | oh, no |
| 04:53.16 | jleclanche | it doesnt allow anything |
| 04:53.18 | jleclanche | its just spaces |
| 04:53.27 | Shirik | no they're tabs |
| 04:53.33 | Shirik | oh |
| 04:53.39 | Shirik | it's just acting like they're tabs |
| 04:53.48 | jleclanche | if you're gonna troll shirik do it right |
| 04:53.51 | airtonix | but there are actually tabs in there |
| 04:53.55 | Shirik | there are tabs in there |
| 04:58.00 | jleclanche | S7E15 - Psych: The Musical - Episode Discussion (self.psych) |
| 04:58.01 | jleclanche | OH |
| 04:58.05 | jleclanche | afk 3 hours |
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| 05:04.52 | Mr_Rabies | pompy1: are you here, by chance? :O |
| 05:06.59 | Mr_Rabies | i am disappoint, Arrowmaster |
| 05:25.39 | Dagmar | Oh my! |
| 05:26.27 | Dagmar | Suddenly, just when the world was getting used to calling Linus Torvalds an asshole... Theo de Raadt speaks publicly again. |
| 05:37.45 | kd3 | holy crap |
| 05:37.51 | kd3 | I shouldn't be in lfr on sunday/monday |
| 05:38.04 | kd3 | protectors was nearly a wipe because people couldn't kill them at the same time |
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| 05:49.35 | Semlar | you shouldn't lfr |
| 05:49.58 | Semlar | nobody should be subjected to that |
| 05:51.29 | bluspacecow | why? |
| 05:59.31 | bluspacecow | http://9gag.com/gag/3714718 |
| 05:59.49 | bluspacecow | Hungarian pride! |
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| 06:05.52 | airtonix | hey guys. the nsa says they aren't spy in americans... phew |
| 06:05.58 | pompy1 | Mr_Rabies: yes |
| 06:06.10 | airtonix | i guess that means australia is up for grabs |
| 06:14.53 | Mr_Rabies | you're not pompachomp, original author of altoholic are you, pompy? :o |
| 06:20.50 | airtonix | https://hacks.mozilla.org/2013/12/css-variables-in-firefox-nightly/ |
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| 09:04.50 | Shirik | "Warning: a new checking account was added to your USAA account. If you did not authorize this, please contact us immediately." |
| 09:05.04 | Shirik | I mean, thanks for letting me know, but why would I be worried about someone paying my bills for me? |
| 09:06.07 | bleeter | Shirik: because, like every other customer of theirs, you're a stupid morn! :P |
| 09:06.09 | bleeter | *moron |
| 09:06.55 | airtonix | merkn* |
| 09:07.13 | Cairenn | Torhal: ping? |
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| 09:10.02 | rid_ | do not ping T-dawg! |
| 09:10.30 | Cairenn | why not? |
| 09:10.48 | bleeter | haha check out the last half dozen tweets https://twitter.com/ploughpub |
| 09:10.52 | bleeter | it'd seem someone let the head chef run the twitter account >< |
| 09:12.01 | Shirik | wow |
| 09:12.15 | Shirik | still, not sure that's the best idea |
| 09:12.24 | Shirik | burning bridges has a tendency to make your next job harder to find |
| 09:13.05 | bleeter | dpends, venue might already have a bit of a dodgy reputation etc. |
| 09:14.05 | airtonix | Cairenn: not allowed to ping the gods |
| 09:14.13 | Cairenn | *snark* |
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| 09:44.41 | Fisker | I made no such restriction |
| 09:44.52 | rid_ | hey Fisker |
| 09:44.59 | Fisker | and neither did the grand empress |
| 09:45.06 | Fisker | hey rid_ |
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| 10:14.20 | haste | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6913684 |
| 10:29.01 | bleeter | https://github.com/noidontdig/gitdown |
| 10:30.58 | bleeter | http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/1101419736392331725/F1FA77C43FACB17A7C2AE529DBD03F6882725314/ |
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| 10:33.41 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 10:33.55 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 10:34.00 | bleeter | HEY BLEETER |
| 10:34.10 | Fisker | nope |
| 10:34.11 | haste | bleeter hey |
| 10:34.18 | Fisker | stahp |
| 10:34.23 | bleeter | nope hey stahp |
| 10:34.44 | bleeter | "gitdown is a script which moderates your git committing activity based on your blood alcohol content (BAC). It uses the DrinkShield for Arduino as a breathalyzer, and a Ruby script as the git hook." |
| 10:34.59 | Fisker | hey-allowed people: rid_ haste and Cairenn |
| 10:35.09 | Cairenn | hey Fisker :) |
| 10:35.13 | airtonix | lol ruby |
| 10:35.15 | bleeter | hey Shirik |
| 10:35.20 | Fisker | and Shirik if he behaves |
| 10:35.33 | haste | Shirik never behaves. |
| 10:35.51 | Fisker | hmm i wonder if my keyboard will work now |
| 10:35.57 | airtonix | no |
| 10:36.57 | Fisker | it looks like it does |
| 10:36.57 | Fisker | well |
| 10:37.01 | Fisker | now I have two keyboards |
| 10:37.02 | Fisker | :D |
| 10:39.07 | bleeter | one for each hand? |
| 10:39.27 | airtonix | who wants an invite key for the nsa anti virus as a service? |
| 10:39.34 | haste | I see you second keyboard and raise it with a second keyboard with different layout! |
| 10:40.08 | bleeter | airtonix: does it run on iOS7? |
| 10:40.20 | airtonix | i don't need your email, just say "yes" in this channel and you're in |
| 10:40.42 | airtonix | bleeter: it'll run on your fridge |
| 10:41.00 | airtonix | is that ios7 ? |
| 10:42.29 | bleeter | your pants are ios7 |
| 10:48.46 | Sintacks | ur panties are iOS 3 |
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| 12:50.42 | Stanzilla | I just had the toughest support phone call ever |
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| 12:51.06 | Stanzilla | I was talking to this DELL support woman and my cat was talking in his sleep right next to me, pretty hard to keep a straight face |
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| 13:08.16 | Stanzilla | noooo |
| 13:08.18 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 13:08.21 | Stanzilla | you cruel person |
| 13:14.05 | karl_w_w | why would you be talking to dell support? trolling them? |
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| 13:19.16 | airtonix | to amuse the cat |
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| 13:46.05 | airtonix | why did they kill brian? |
| 13:46.11 | airtonix | and who is this wop |
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| 14:03.49 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 14:04.00 | bluspacecow | \o |
| 14:04.53 | Fisker | o/ |
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| 14:24.02 | VIad | hmm, what did people tell Scott on wowui? |
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| 14:24.19 | zenzio | ..? |
| 14:24.47 | VIad | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48679 |
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| 14:28.13 | zenzio | good question |
| 14:29.49 | VIad | as long the addon download is not walled off by a payment, I see no problem |
| 14:29.56 | nevcairiel | he did basically say "donate or nUI will be taken private |
| 14:31.16 | mitch0 | nUI was always this strange thing |
| 14:31.20 | mitch0 | with nUI+ and whatnot |
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| 14:31.40 | nevcairiel | he even specifically says "filtering out the users and abusers and denying them access" |
| 14:32.45 | VIad | I think his stance has changed since the initial one though |
| 14:33.31 | nevcairiel | that was two days ago |
| 14:34.03 | zenzio | seems a bit sad considering what his goal was. I imagine he'd have had more success had he simply asked |
| 14:34.16 | zenzio | for some reason people don't like being "forced" to help |
| 14:34.42 | VIad | perhaps all he needs is a PR guy |
| 14:34.55 | VIad | since his motives are good :) |
| 14:35.20 | nevcairiel | good motives dont justify bad behaviour |
| 14:35.30 | zenzio | aye |
| 14:35.30 | mitch0 | s/good/at first glance appear to be &/ |
| 14:35.42 | VIad | I wouldn't say his behavior is bad, he does act fine when I read his announcements. |
| 14:36.18 | VIad | Haven't read everything, so I might be wrong. |
| 14:36.19 | nevcairiel | He says "donate money to fund my NPO, or nUI will be limited to those that did" |
| 14:36.24 | nevcairiel | paraphrased of course |
| 14:36.27 | nevcairiel | but thats what it says |
| 14:37.16 | VIad | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48680 |
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| 14:37.18 | VIad | found his thread |
| 14:38.33 | nevcairiel | he had a post from november before were he started with the "screw everyone, only the nice people that pay me get future updates" |
| 14:38.45 | VIad | Blizzard wrote "However, you cannot just distribute your addon to paying users." so I suggested he limits who can contact him by using his forums to limit access, keep the downloads public (no paywall, so Blizzard is happy) |
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| 14:39.46 | VIad | btw, with blizzards policy, can't you keep an addon private on your site and only allow people with access to download it? as long it's free ;) |
| 14:40.01 | VIad | and let's say there is a fee, it can be justified with paying the bills |
| 14:40.16 | mitch0 | "donate or no access" is not free though |
| 14:40.28 | VIad | you don't pay for the addon |
| 14:40.31 | VIad | you pay for the forum access :P |
| 14:40.35 | nevcairiel | same thing |
| 14:40.48 | VIad | I dunno |
| 14:41.00 | VIad | perhaps in thise case it might seem like this |
| 14:41.40 | A-KO^^ | Blizzard explicitly states you can't charge for addons--period. They're not idiots :P |
| 14:41.50 | A-KO^^ | "charge access to the forums" is charging for 'support for the addon' |
| 14:41.57 | A-KO^^ | which is not legitimate in their eyes :P |
| 14:42.01 | nevcairiel | All add-ons must be distributed free of charge. Developers may not create "premium" versions of add-ons with additional for-pay features, charge money to download an add-on, charge for services related to the add-on, or otherwise require some form of monetary compensation to download or access an add-on. |
| 14:42.04 | nevcairiel | full text ^ |
| 14:42.06 | VIad | I would argue it's to pay for the webhost :) |
| 14:42.08 | mitch0 | the problem is, he'd really like to do nUI for a living (at least that's the impression I had reading some of his posts). that'll be sorta tricky with blizzard's policy... |
| 14:42.12 | Fisker | good morning Lopeppeppy |
| 14:42.25 | A-KO^^ | vlad: It's not. He can host the code on any publicly free site period |
| 14:42.28 | A-KO^^ | curse, etc. |
| 14:42.32 | A-KO^^ | doesn't have to put out his own money |
| 14:42.54 | nevcairiel | the policy even says "charge for services related to the add-on", so you could easily interpret pay-for- support into there |
| 14:42.56 | VIad | I am just curious how I can for example, host a private addon that I share with a small group of users, that uses a referal system to invite their friends and such |
| 14:43.14 | A-KO^^ | You can do that, you just can't charge money for access to the addon |
| 14:43.15 | VIad | let's say it starts off with me only, then I invite my friends, they use it, they want to invite their friends, e.g. |
| 14:43.17 | A-KO^^ | or expect people to pay |
| 14:43.26 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Fisker-boopsie. |
| 14:43.26 | nevcairiel | there is no rule that you have to give your addon to everyone |
| 14:43.31 | VIad | yeah, but I host it on my own website and it's not a public website :) |
| 14:43.34 | nevcairiel | just cant have money involved |
| 14:43.37 | A-KO^^ | ^ |
| 14:43.39 | A-KO^^ | what nev said |
| 14:43.46 | nevcairiel | VIad: if they pay for entry, then its forbidden |
| 14:43.58 | VIad | no, let's say it's referal only |
| 14:44.07 | nevcairiel | as long as they dont have to pay to get it, its fine |
| 14:44.08 | A-KO^^ | as long as money never changes hands |
| 14:44.09 | A-KO^^ | it's fine |
| 14:44.12 | VIad | but I later add a donation box to pay for the website host |
| 14:44.16 | A-KO^^ | nope |
| 14:44.19 | A-KO^^ | can't take donations either |
| 14:44.23 | nevcairiel | asking for donations is fine |
| 14:44.23 | A-KO^^ | on that front |
| 14:44.25 | nevcairiel | on the website |
| 14:44.26 | A-KO^^ | can you? |
| 14:44.30 | mitch0 | yes |
| 14:44.37 | VIad | it's still a refered community with a internal donation box |
| 14:44.42 | nevcairiel | you can ask on the website, not in the addon |
| 14:44.46 | VIad | yes ofc |
| 14:44.48 | nevcairiel | and the donation of course has to be optional |
| 14:44.51 | A-KO^^ | nevcairiel: What he's asking is that "friends are encouraged to donate to the website", for which he pay walls the addon |
| 14:45.04 | A-KO^^ | You can't do that |
| 14:45.09 | A-KO^^ | the addon MUST be available for free, period. |
| 14:45.16 | A-KO^^ | You can't paywall it--not through donations, not through trickery |
| 14:45.30 | zenzio | come to think of it, this sounds like something RMS would be proud of |
| 14:45.36 | VIad | hmm, how to explain it to you A-KO |
| 14:45.38 | A-KO^^ | lol, yes it would |
| 14:45.43 | A-KO^^ | vlad: I know exactly what you're saying |
| 14:45.43 | nevcairiel | Of course. You can offer a donation box if you want, but you cannot force people to donate |
| 14:45.54 | VIad | nevcairiel gets it |
| 14:46.01 | nevcairiel | because forced donations are payments |
| 14:46.04 | Fisker | you can't force someone to donate |
| 14:46.05 | A-KO^^ | nevcairiel: "donations for referrals" for which the addon is behind the "referrals" |
| 14:46.35 | A-KO^^ | So to get access to the website you need to have a referral, but I'm sure he would work out some sort of system so that getting a referral requires a donation :P |
| 14:46.52 | mitch0 | and at that point the addon is no longer free |
| 14:46.55 | A-KO^^ | So you're not "paying for the addon", you're paying for the "referrals" |
| 14:47.29 | airtonix | shitty addon anyway. |
| 14:47.33 | airtonix | who would pay for it |
| 14:47.34 | mitch0 | that too ;) |
| 14:47.48 | airtonix | ffs |
| 14:48.08 | airtonix | seriously? "lets take up 40% of the screen with blinking lights and give the player a hammer" |
| 14:49.03 | airtonix | it's not even an addon is it? |
| 14:49.09 | airtonix | it's just a collection of addons? |
| 14:51.11 | nevcairiel | probably with a bit of glue |
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| 14:53.22 | VIad | A-KO I mean't like http://ss.bool.no/capture_1387205597.jpeg |
| 14:53.48 | VIad | the only wall is that you must be refered into the community |
| 14:54.02 | nevcairiel | you made an image now? :P |
| 14:54.06 | VIad | yes! :D |
| 14:54.13 | Fisker | seems fine to me |
| 14:54.34 | Dagmar | In other words, he hasn't figured out that this is no better than the "free porn in your inbox" sites from the 90's. |
| 14:54.50 | airtonix | why is your stick figure man having a darker grey block on it's foot? |
| 14:54.58 | airtonix | this is throwing me off |
| 14:55.13 | airtonix | what does it mean? |
| 14:55.14 | VIad | good question |
| 14:55.21 | airtonix | arggggh! |
| 14:55.38 | VIad | we must ask the guys at sketchboard.me :P |
| 14:55.55 | VIad | if you drag it the image scales |
| 14:55.59 | VIad | so that's what it's for |
| 14:57.23 | airtonix | scales what? the donations? |
| 14:57.37 | airtonix | sounds dodgey |
| 14:58.12 | VIad | scales the image of the stickman :P |
| 15:03.29 | VIad | btw is Ace framework still in development? |
| 15:05.04 | nevcairiel | its pretty much finished for a long while now, gets bug fixes if required, but new features are rare |
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| 15:23.04 | airtonix | but it would be super awesome if js just had native support for @import "package.js" |
| 15:24.02 | zenzio | it's almost like the language was developed without the intention of splitting up code |
| 15:24.07 | zenzio | :) |
| 15:24.36 | airtonix | yeah, even node js has this hacky way to do it |
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| 16:22.01 | Neffi_ | yikes http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/12/exponential-algorithm-making-windows-xp-miserable-could-be-fixed/ |
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| 16:26.50 | airtonix | Smith-Mundt was repealed, it is now legal for the US Gov to engage in propaganda INSIDE the US |
| 16:27.00 | airtonix | the world is flat |
| 16:27.11 | Semlar | it wasn't legal before? |
| 16:27.31 | airtonix | wasn't it just businesses doing it before? |
| 16:27.38 | Semlar | not really |
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| 16:31.24 | Semlar | not that it matters when we have news stations like ours |
| 16:32.46 | foxlit | heh, did you know that there are 18 raid targets? |
| 16:33.04 | Semlar | icons? |
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| 16:33.24 | foxlit | only 8 icons, but 18 assignable target indices. |
| 16:33.36 | Semlar | can you actually use the rest of them? |
| 16:33.44 | Semlar | with the api |
| 16:34.10 | foxlit | how do you imagine the opposite of that? |
| 16:34.11 | Semlar | not that it would be terribly useful |
| 16:34.22 | foxlit | "there are 18 assignable raid targets which you can't assign using the API"? |
| 16:35.54 | Semlar | anything an addon could do with this could be done by just sharing the units guid anyway |
| 16:36.29 | Semlar | but it would allow you avoid communicating that guid |
| 16:37.19 | Ackis | hey Fisker if I install the Windows Phone SDK can I run windows phone apps? |
| 16:38.16 | Fisker | probably |
| 16:40.18 | Semlar | unless you could convince the client that there are more raid icons it can use |
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| 16:53.12 | jleclanche | http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Wireless-Gaming-Headset-G930/dp/B003U55WWS |
| 16:53.13 | jleclanche | http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-G930-Wireless-Gaming-Headset/dp/B00CJ5FPS6/ref=dp_ob_title_ce/279-5120906-0284729 |
| 16:53.16 | jleclanche | wtf is the difference? |
| 16:55.56 | nevcairiel | the one is labeled wrong, should be G930S |
| 16:56.15 | nevcairiel | the more expensive one, of course |
| 16:56.23 | nevcairiel | its a newer model from '13, the original is from '10 |
| 17:08.54 | Semlar | it apparently weighs twice as much |
| 17:09.36 | foxlit | mantid archaeology is the best archaeology ever. |
| 17:09.38 | nevcairiel | i think the first is off, 25g for batteries? |
| 17:09.59 | Semlar | i'm sure at least one of these numbers is wrong |
| 17:10.07 | Torhal | Ackis: You were told wrong; I don't actually even know WTF that is. I just know many people detest it. |
| 17:10.32 | Torhal | Cairenn: pong |
| 17:10.33 | nevcairiel | foxlit: how so |
| 17:11.24 | nevcairiel | because of the map thing that can shuffle all digs and make it pop only mantid ones? :p |
| 17:11.36 | foxlit | dig site size, node concentration, and limiting to two zones. |
| 17:12.07 | nevcairiel | mobs are higher level t hough, and usually a whole lot of them around the digsites |
| 17:12.30 | nevcairiel | but yeah it was pretty fast to get the one rare i wanted |
| 17:13.12 | foxlit | older azeroth dig sites are generally ridiculous in that you have to travel miles between nodes |
| 17:13.26 | nevcairiel | true, the continent is too huge |
| 17:13.29 | foxlit | mantid sites generally spawn result in all green survey markers. |
| 17:13.35 | foxlit | s/spawn// |
| 17:13.51 | foxlit | and scuttler's shell is really going to get nerfed one day |
| 17:14.03 | foxlit | but until then, you can be like "mobs? what mobs!" |
| 17:14.27 | nevcairiel | why did i not know of that thing |
| 17:14.34 | nevcairiel | must be because i hate the damn island |
| 17:15.05 | foxlit | do you even play? <3 |
| 17:15.12 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 17:15.16 | nevcairiel | i just stay away from the island |
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| 17:16.41 | nevcairiel | been doing achievements, catching up on reputations that i never finished, leveling alts, stuff like that |
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| 17:22.42 | jleclanche | " It's easy to understand the concerns regarding spying, and most people have a visceral negative reaction. It's much more difficult to elicit that type of response to, say, human rights violations that don't directly affect most Americans." |
| 17:22.49 | jleclanche | if this is even sort of true i should throw up |
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| 17:24.24 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: all I can find about the G930S is people who couldn't find information about the G930S |
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| 17:25.05 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: all I can find about the G930S is people who couldn't find information about the G930S |
| 17:25.06 | jleclanche | according to the guy i just talked to at logitech, only the packaging changed |
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| 17:32.13 | Ackis | jleclanche: don't get the 930 |
| 17:32.18 | jleclanche | Ackis: why? |
| 17:32.29 | Ackis | someone turns a microwave on and you lose signal |
| 17:32.36 | jleclanche | I dont have a microwave |
| 17:32.54 | jleclanche | and doesnt it use the same tech as the h800? im using that one currently and get excellent reception everywhere |
| 17:32.55 | Ackis | do your neighbours? |
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| 17:33.02 | jleclanche | i dont have neighbours |
| 17:33.11 | Lopeppeppy | It's a very netsplitty kind of day, isn't it? |
| 17:33.22 | Ackis | my wife and I both have the 930 and whenever we use the microwave or our neighbours do we lose signal until it's over |
| 17:33.25 | Ackis | very frustrating |
| 17:33.47 | Semlar | that doesn't say much for the radiation shielding |
| 17:34.13 | jleclanche | i think im just going to avoid whatever microwave brand you're buying |
| 17:34.54 | Ackis | it's not just isolated to my wife and I, one of our friends returned his due to the interference issues |
| 17:34.56 | kd3 | huh. weird. I rebooted my pi and now I'm getting faster 'disk' read speeds... over 6MB/s now, was barely breaking 4 before |
| 17:35.44 | Lopeppeppy | That sounds very windoze-like, kd3. |
| 17:35.51 | Semlar | microwave interference is probably at the 2.4ghz band |
| 17:38.23 | Semlar | 5ghz has a shorter range though |
| 17:38.43 | Fisker | very netsplitty Lopeppeppy tripleunderscore |
| 17:39.04 | jleclanche | both the h800 and the g930 use 2.4ghz |
| 17:39.21 | Semlar | it actually claims to jump between frequencies to keep the signal "clear and strong" |
| 17:39.32 | Aeger73 | I use a Plantronics Savi 400 no issues with that |
| 17:40.44 | Semlar | that apparently operates at 1.9GHz to avoid interference |
| 17:41.53 | airtonix | http://www.tarsnap.com/ |
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| 17:55.06 | airtonix | lulz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WgOWrT1yyI |
| 17:55.29 | airtonix | also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxEq6IM43sA |
| 17:55.56 | Semlar | how can i write a sort function that doesn't think the order should be '1', '10', '100', '2', '3' |
| 17:57.04 | Semlar | i guess i could pull the number out if there's one in the string |
| 17:57.22 | jleclanche | https://mediacru.sh/gHwU-mOmDyl5 |
| 17:57.25 | jleclanche | Fuck kerning |
| 17:57.39 | Shirik | the Hui truth |
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| 17:58.52 | Shirik | Semlar: Yes, I think you have to split it into "string parts" and "number parts" which is likely to be taxing |
| 17:59.09 | Semlar | bleh |
| 18:00.05 | Shirik | the alternative is a lot more bleh I think |
| 18:00.16 | Shirik | give each character a value, and if it's a number, perform a lookahead to determine its value |
| 18:01.08 | Semlar | i think it probably won't matter enough to be worth writing a more advanced sort function for this |
| 18:01.10 | Shirik | which is basically the same thing combined with implementing your own < operator |
| 18:01.34 | jleclanche | Ackis: with no other complaints ive ordered the g930 |
| 18:01.41 | Shirik | the G930 is the best |
| 18:01.43 | Shirik | I have two |
| 18:01.50 | Semlar | just don't put it in your microwave |
| 18:01.51 | jleclanche | Shirik: how does it feel on the ears? |
| 18:01.55 | Shirik | love it |
| 18:01.59 | Shirik | and I use it about 16 hours a day |
| 18:02.02 | Shirik | 8 at work, 8 at home |
| 18:02.15 | jleclanche | Shirik: does it push on the ears? or is it an over-ear? |
| 18:02.18 | Semlar | would you say it gives you aural pleasure |
| 18:02.22 | Shirik | over-ear |
| 18:02.25 | jleclanche | ergh |
| 18:02.31 | jleclanche | we'll see. ill try it out |
| 18:02.33 | Shirik | what do you mean ergh |
| 18:02.35 | Shirik | that's so much better |
| 18:02.37 | jleclanche | i dislike over-ears |
| 18:02.40 | Shirik | why |
| 18:03.00 | jleclanche | i like headsets to actually feel really attached to my head |
| 18:03.09 | jleclanche | over-ears often fall |
| 18:03.17 | Shirik | I like my headsets to not feel like I just slammed a brick into my head when taking them off after 8 hours |
| 18:03.32 | jleclanche | thats the BEST PART |
| 18:03.35 | Shirik | what |
| 18:03.51 | Ackis | jleclanche: the only other thing I can think of that's annoying with it is that the power on/off is sometimes wonky when you're recharging/unplugging |
| 18:04.00 | Shirik | agree |
| 18:04.03 | jleclanche | Ackis: power on/off? |
| 18:04.06 | Shirik | actually the power on/off is just weird in general |
| 18:04.15 | jleclanche | cant you just turn it off normally? |
| 18:04.48 | Shirik | I feel like the code for handling the power on/off request was the last thing they implemented when they were already overbudget/overschedule and had to release |
| 18:05.04 | jleclanche | what do you mean? |
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| 18:05.17 | Shirik | you have to hold it down for a few seconds with zero feedback |
| 18:05.23 | Shirik | and it won't tell you that you've held it down long enough |
| 18:05.29 | Shirik | so either you guess and had it too short so oit does nothing |
| 18:05.32 | jleclanche | "hold it down"? |
| 18:05.38 | Shirik | or you probably did it for 3 seconds too long |
| 18:05.44 | Shirik | yeah you have to hold the power button for it to turn on/off |
| 18:05.47 | Shirik | not just press |
| 18:05.52 | jleclanche | why not a switch |
| 18:05.58 | Shirik | because they're "fancy" |
| 18:06.01 | jleclanche | this is a much bigger issue than Ackis' popcorn bitching |
| 18:06.06 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:06.14 | Shirik | it's really not that big of a deal |
| 18:06.31 | jleclanche | how long does it take to pair with the receiver btw? on average |
| 18:06.35 | Shirik | half a second |
| 18:06.39 | jleclanche | nice |
| 18:06.46 | jleclanche | the h800 is 3-10 seconds |
| 18:07.04 | Shirik | did I tell you we did a spectrum analysis on the headset? |
| 18:07.38 | Shirik | the thing is insane. It's a 2.4 GHz headset so obviously it has to deal with wifi interference. |
| 18:07.59 | Shirik | At short range it picks a range that is outside the wifi band so it doesn't get interference, but its range is limited. |
| 18:08.17 | Shirik | At long range, it performs frequency hopping seamlessly (you can't even tell; I didn't even know until we tested it) |
| 18:08.18 | jleclanche | at long range it attracts microwaves |
| 18:08.42 | Shirik | and by long range I mean really long range; we were probably testing somewhere around 80 feet |
| 18:08.57 | Shirik | clear line of sight of courzsxe |
| 18:08.58 | jleclanche | you make me want to buy another |
| 18:09.13 | jleclanche | Shirik: Im pissed off with my new house |
| 18:09.19 | jleclanche | its more "up to code" than my old one |
| 18:09.30 | jleclanche | but in my old one i could go through three rooms and still get reception |
| 18:09.37 | jleclanche | here I can barely reach the stairs |
| 18:09.52 | jleclanche | fucking 2012 builds. |
| 18:10.59 | Ackis | Shirik: I know the headset will work between at lest 4 walls, I've heard myself get killed in WoW while pooping |
| 18:11.19 | jleclanche | do like real pvpers and hold it in |
| 18:11.25 | Ackis | also I turned on beeps on my keyboard for when caps/num lock are pressed so now num lock is my "is my headset on?" test key |
| 18:12.52 | Ackis | the ironic thing is jleclanche that this was during raid time (firelands + afk + lifegrip == fun) |
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| 18:25.45 | jleclanche | Ackis: my "is my headset on" key is "lets put volume all the way up and see when it starts beeping" |
| 18:25.50 | jleclanche | its.. less than efficient. |
| 18:26.12 | jleclanche | tho i use the mute beep now |
| 18:26.21 | jleclanche | but i really like the mute light on the g930 |
| 18:26.28 | jleclanche | in fact im pretty excited about it now |
| 18:26.45 | jleclanche | thanks Shirik. |
| 18:27.28 | bleeter | oh hey, it's today! |
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| 18:28.17 | Shirik | mute light is awesome |
| 18:28.59 | Shirik | one small question jleclanche, how far is your router from your computer? |
| 18:29.06 | pompy | http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/12/16/the-dangers-of-virtual-reality-erotica dafuq |
| 18:29.10 | jleclanche | 25cm |
| 18:29.13 | jleclanche | why? |
| 18:29.18 | Shirik | is it a high-end router? |
| 18:29.32 | Shirik | better question, is it an N or AC router? |
| 18:29.48 | jleclanche | N |
| 18:30.02 | Shirik | You might need to put it a little distance from your receiver |
| 18:30.18 | Shirik | in my experience my N router was blasting so hard that every few hours it would force a disconnection |
| 18:30.22 | zenzelezz | AC, is that the newest one? |
| 18:30.25 | Shirik | it recovers in seconds but it was kinda annoying |
| 18:30.32 | jleclanche | fuck you, im putting the receiver on the router itself |
| 18:30.38 | jleclanche | /anarchist |
| 18:30.41 | Shirik | moved the router away and everything was fine |
| 18:30.46 | jleclanche | yeah you better run, sandyman. |
| 18:30.48 | Shirik | zenzelezz: yes |
| 18:31.10 | jleclanche | AC is a very cool standard |
| 18:31.11 | Shirik | though I think ac is 5 GHz |
| 18:31.12 | jleclanche | hehehehehehehehee. |
| 18:31.13 | Shirik | so it probably doesn't matter |
| 18:31.19 | Shirik | N only matters because it's dual-band |
| 18:31.41 | jleclanche | AC is a very cool standard shirik. |
| 18:31.44 | bleeter | AC is old |
| 18:31.49 | bleeter | AD and AH are new |
| 18:32.06 | bleeter | (wiGigs) |
| 18:33.22 | zenzelezz | it's all about DC LULZZZ |
| 18:33.34 | bleeter | ur funee!!! |
| 18:33.43 | zenzelezz | inorite |
| 18:34.17 | Shirik | stabs zenzelezz |
| 18:34.58 | bleeter | arguably, AD is also old. I'm certain Fisker would call it old. |
| 18:35.32 | Fisker | no bleeter |
| 18:37.01 | bleeter | I knew I should've said 'Fisker wouldn't call it old' dunno what possessed me to say otherwise |
| 18:37.18 | Fisker | good |
| 18:37.30 | bleeter | oh yeah, that's right, today is officially my annual 'I don't give a shit' day :D |
| 18:38.53 | bleeter | I just tell folks it's my birthday, so that (a) they're never really sure when it actually is (b) I still have one day a year I can be a total arse (instead of mostly and arse ;) |
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| 18:48.59 | Fisker | Your birthday is today bleeter? |
| 18:51.15 | Shirik | bleeter: theme song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUNYDGu_fyU |
| 18:51.59 | bleeter | funny thing about my real birthday, not even the midwife or dr who delivered me was sure which day I was born on =) (dunno about elsewhere, but here you are born 'to the minute' but you can't be born at midnight because legal arguments break out over which day that is) |
| 18:52.22 | bleeter | *arguments can later break... |
| 18:52.38 | Fisker | well if it is, then I hope you don't die |
| 18:52.52 | Semlar | Shirik: i more or less fixed my number sorting problem by zero-filling every number in the strings so they're the same length for comparison |
| 18:53.45 | Semlar | it's a lazy solution but it works for what i need it for |
| 18:53.47 | Shirik | making all numbers equal? |
| 18:53.55 | Semlar | no |
| 18:54.05 | Semlar | using format to make all numbers the same length |
| 18:54.13 | Shirik | oh |
| 18:54.22 | Shirik | zero-padding :) |
| 18:54.25 | Semlar | right |
| 18:54.27 | Shirik | yeah that makes sense |
| 18:54.46 | Shirik | maybe expensive though |
| 18:54.46 | Semlar | meh |
| 18:55.00 | Semlar | the tables are likely not going to be that big anyway |
| 18:55.21 | Semlar | it's just so you can click the column headers and sort the rows |
| 18:55.45 | bleeter | Fisker: not planning to this year, no. thx :) |
| 18:55.55 | Fisker | np |
| 18:55.59 | Semlar | i just didn't want insane sorting |
| 18:57.41 | bleeter | TC-Work: *snort* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=998#c49 |
| 18:58.19 | bleeter | Fisker: ^^ it's people like that what make me want to die, though |
| 18:58.23 | TC-Work | bleeter: There are all over |
| 18:58.26 | TC-Work | They* |
| 18:58.38 | TC-Work | He could just be trolling rather well |
| 18:58.50 | kd3 | bug 998? good grief, how old is it? |
| 18:58.59 | bleeter | Aliases: fidelitas-ex-nihilo, oldest-bug-evar |
| 18:59.01 | TC-Work | 1999 |
| 18:59.06 | bleeter | 1999-01-30 14:40 EST |
| 18:59.28 | bleeter | it's a truly Fun bug |
| 18:59.43 | bleeter | iirc, a problem many distros have |
| 18:59.55 | TC-Work | Heh, has a 'last closed' field from 2005 |
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| 19:02.56 | Shirik | kd3: We've been doing that at work lately |
| 19:03.08 | Shirik | we're revisiting our backlog, and we're currently on numbers > 300000 |
| 19:03.12 | Shirik | and we're seeing 4-digit numbers pop up |
| 19:03.18 | kd3 | lol |
| 19:03.49 | kd3 | I only reacted because of https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1000000 |
| 19:04.30 | bleeter | lol |
| 19:05.39 | bleeter | Shirik: should auto-assign 'oldest-bug-evar' tag there for ease of lulz ;) |
| 19:05.56 | Shirik | we should |
| 19:06.03 | Shirik | it's not quite as epic because we abuse the system |
| 19:06.11 | Shirik | every requirement has a number, every task has a number |
| 19:06.14 | Shirik | and they're all shared |
| 19:06.17 | Shirik | etc. |
| 19:06.24 | bleeter | it's not a good bug tracking system unless it's abused heavily ;) |
| 19:06.26 | kd3 | that sounds like process for the sake of process |
| 19:06.37 | Shirik | actually it's less work kd3 :) |
| 19:06.43 | Shirik | it would be more annoying if we had separate systems for everything |
| 19:07.16 | bleeter | yeah would be a pain to move an existing system to something like that but I reckon once having it, would be rather neat |
| 19:07.28 | Dagmar | Oldest bug ever? |
| 19:08.10 | Dagmar | Are you one of those people who last night were going "Who is this Theo guy and why is he such an asshole?" |
| 19:08.56 | Shirik | quien? |
| 19:09.52 | kd3 | http://tech-beta.slashdot.org/story/13/12/16/0121213/theo-de-raadt-says-freebsd-is-just-catching-up-on-security |
| 19:14.24 | zenzelezz | World of Tanks players have a lot of helpful ideas for bad players. "go play tetris", "uninstall game noob", "plz format harddisk", "ur parents should have drowned you" |
| 19:15.22 | zenzelezz | "report M103 for autism please" |
| 19:16.33 | Dagmar | kd3: I think he was trying to get Linus to send him a Christmas card |
| 19:16.43 | kd3 | lol |
| 19:17.28 | Dagmar | We actually were discussing "So whatever happened to TdR" last month at the 2600 meeting because of the newbies acting like Linus is the worlds biggest bastard |
| 19:17.36 | bleeter | haha |
| 19:18.26 | Dagmar | IIRC Theo actually started taking some medication back in the late 90's or so, and people started getting freaked out about him *not* verbally ripping out spines on a regular basis |
| 19:18.45 | bleeter | he is right about FreeBSD there, of course |
| 19:20.53 | Dagmar | Well, at least he didn't call them an ignorant bag of dicks or something |
| 19:21.43 | Ackis | yay my kitty cat is ok :D (he went in for tooth surgery today) turned out it wasn't as bad as we thought :D |
| 19:22.00 | Ackis | the vet himself even called my wife "That's one cute cat you've got there" :D *beams* |
| 19:22.04 | bleeter | yay kitty! :D |
| 19:22.52 | bleeter | ' |
| 19:22.54 | bleeter | Pretty sure whoever wrote "House" was looking at Theo and thinking "You know... that fucker could make a great TV show character". ' |
| 19:22.59 | bleeter | roflcopters |
| 19:29.23 | Dagmar | House is actually rather cuddly compared to Theo |
| 19:29.55 | Dagmar | Of course, I've also heard it said that a rabid pit bull is cute and cuddly compared to Theo |
| 19:31.17 | bleeter | what I'm curious about is how many busybox machines out there have a totally busted rng lol |
| 19:31.44 | airtonix | like all of them? |
| 19:31.58 | airtonix | even all the ios ones |
| 19:36.57 | airtonix | Well he doesn't know much about Theo, yet he's talking about him. |
| 19:36.57 | airtonix | You don't know much about English, yet you're using it. |
| 19:37.05 | airtonix | lol'd |
| 19:39.09 | bleeter | sweet, 23C for wednesday, 36C for thursday woot. BEACH BBQ BABES BOOFHEADS |
| 19:39.37 | Dagmar | Allow me to be the first to wish you a merry death by fire |
| 19:40.09 | kd3 | it's a balmy 10c here today |
| 19:43.09 | Dagmar | it's 8 here. |
| 19:43.17 | bleeter | anyone who spends christmas/new years stuck in cold & snow etc. needs their head read :P |
| 19:43.22 | Dagmar | Most of the weekend it was just fucking freezing for no good reason |
| 19:43.46 | zenzelezz | I'm pretty unhappy with the winter here so far. It barely hit the negatives before going back up to 5-8 |
| 19:44.14 | kd3 | I'm just glad that we've only had a dusting so far this year that melted by the afternoon... but we've had something like 3-4 inches of rain in the past few weeks |
| 19:46.43 | bleeter | they recently announced the winter quarter rainfall over here. one place, can't remember where, recorded something like 1.5m of rain. but there was a qualification... |
| 19:47.21 | bleeter | they also recorded, for the first time there, snow. they estimated about 3m of snow. 'but as we've never had snow there before we can't be too sure on that 1.5m of rain, we need more datas' lol |
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| 19:49.12 | Dagmar | In general, an inch of rainfall will turn into a foot of snow |
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| 19:55.05 | bleeter | Dagmar: may well be true but those pesky meteroologlogists don't like giving out generalisations in quartly stats... the bastards what do they think they are, middle management?! |
| 19:55.12 | bleeter | ;) |
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| 20:10.53 | Lopeppeppy | I just got my first-ever vendor holiday card. I must be important now. |
| 20:11.18 | Semlar | pads neffi |
| 20:11.36 | Dagmar | Domino's? |
| 20:13.11 | Semlar | my dentist sends me a card |
| 20:13.20 | Neffi | Semlar: shipping me off somewhere? |
| 20:13.34 | Semlar | should i put fragile on the box |
| 20:13.42 | Semlar | which way is up |
| 20:14.59 | Lopeppeppy | Bah, you guys are no fun. :P |
| 20:15.42 | Neffi | Lopeppeppy: That's because you're already important to us ;) |
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| 20:16.04 | Neffi | Semlar: It'd be nice if you put "fragile", but I doubt the shipping guys really care |
| 20:16.20 | Semlar | i'll put "expensive" |
| 20:16.37 | nevcairiel | so they have more fun when they smash it? |
| 20:16.51 | Dagmar | The word you want to use is "unstable" |
| 20:17.07 | Neffi | is unstable. |
| 20:17.38 | Dagmar | Of course, your package may wind up being hand-delivered by a Federal Marshall, but it generally works. |
| 20:17.43 | Neffi | runs up to Semlar, smacks him in the face, screams "ALL HAIL THE DEMIGOD CHICKEN MAN" and runs away crying and laughing. |
| 20:18.33 | Semlar | "volatile" |
| 20:29.17 | airtonix | should use a shock tag |
| 20:29.33 | airtonix | ja dat wud be gute |
| 20:29.46 | Semlar | tries to calm neffi down |
| 20:30.36 | Neffi | runs away. |
| 20:32.30 | Semlar | you'll be back |
| 20:33.20 | Semlar | i know you can't resist this |
| 20:33.48 | Neffi | >_> |
| 20:34.01 | Neffi | hey Semlar do you still play WoW? |
| 20:34.17 | Semlar | yis |
| 20:34.32 | Neffi | You should play another MMO, decide if it's good or not, and then let me know |
| 20:34.38 | Semlar | no |
| 20:34.55 | Neffi | aww |
| 20:35.12 | Semlar | okay i played them |
| 20:35.21 | Semlar | the results are inconclusive |
| 20:35.48 | Semlar | but everything else is almost certainly not WoW |
| 20:35.58 | Neffi | that's kinda what I'm looking for |
| 20:36.05 | Semlar | have you tried WoW? |
| 20:36.17 | Neffi | yeah, it's pretty good. Played for a while, like 8 years. Got bored. |
| 20:36.33 | Semlar | oh well if you're looking for something similar you could try WoW |
| 20:36.41 | Neffi | is it any good? |
| 20:36.45 | Semlar | it's alright |
| 20:37.02 | Neffi | meh. i'll look into it, but I hear it's just like WoW, and I don't want to play another WoW right now |
| 20:37.34 | Semlar | oh |
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| 20:37.48 | Semlar | well i have a tuna sandwich |
| 20:38.08 | Neffi | eww |
| 20:38.39 | Semlar | my cat has determined it belongs to him and is waiting for me to hand it over |
| 20:39.00 | Neffi | you should do what he says. he has built in knives on his hands. |
| 20:39.09 | Semlar | he's rather impatient |
| 21:00.42 | kd3 | damn it, garr. I need your binding, not geddon's (whose I've seen three times now) |
| 21:07.15 | Maldivia | grrr garr |
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| 21:15.08 | Dennls | does anyone know of an addon that will scale down your UI when you change resolutions? |
| 21:15.22 | Dennls | if such a thing is even possible |
| 21:15.57 | Maldivia | shouldn't be needed? |
| 21:16.12 | Maldivia | as long as you keep the same aspect ratio, the scale should fit, righT? |
| 21:16.19 | Dennls | I mean on a custom one :p |
| 21:16.25 | Dennls | doesnt work that way sadly |
| 21:16.48 | Maldivia | but should be easy to make such an addon, don't know if one already exists |
| 21:17.14 | Dennls | most of the addons I use are co-ordinate based |
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| 21:20.44 | Dennls | http://i.imgur.com/Ep3jGs0.jpg |
| 21:20.48 | Dennls | this is kind of my problem, maldivia :p |
| 21:21.31 | Maldivia | hehe, that's just weird :) |
| 21:22.09 | Dennls | considering connecting my PC to my TV to play on that but it's 1366x768 |
| 21:22.27 | Maldivia | well, it's easy to make a macro to change the scale |
| 21:23.30 | Dennls | is it? im really not good at this kind of stuff lol |
| 21:24.56 | Maldivia | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:25.03 | Maldivia | where 0.6 is the value you want to set it to |
| 21:25.19 | Maldivia | takes affect immediately |
| 21:25.26 | Dennls | that doesnt seem to do anything, would it be bacsue I use addons instead of default blizz? |
| 21:25.30 | nevcairiel | its funny that you would use 0.6, which is an impossible value |
| 21:26.00 | TC-Work | Didn't there used to be an addon called viewport that let you change the viewable area indepenent of the game window? Or does that not help? |
| 21:26.36 | Maldivia | Dennls: only works if uiscale is enabled :) |
| 21:26.41 | Dennls | whereabouts is that setting? |
| 21:26.51 | Neffi | nevcairiel: how so? |
| 21:26.53 | Dennls | also TC-Work im not quite sure what you mean |
| 21:26.59 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: min is 0.5 |
| 21:27.08 | nevcairiel | min used to be 0.64 |
| 21:27.22 | Maldivia | that's if you change from the system-settings menu |
| 21:27.31 | nevcairiel | even on console it didnt really take |
| 21:28.06 | Dennls | okay I just broke my UI |
| 21:28.07 | Dennls | lol |
| 21:28.13 | nevcairiel | 0.64 is the "ideal" scale for a 1200 screen height, and on my 1600 high screen, i could never get it to an ideal scale |
| 21:28.21 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 21:28.22 | Dennls | everything is out of position now |
| 21:28.32 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: hmm, perhaps it still is 0.64 |
| 21:28.35 | nevcairiel | admittedly thats 0.48 |
| 21:28.42 | nevcairiel | but even 0.5 would be better |
| 21:28.49 | Maldivia | I use 0.6, and then 0.5, and it got smaller... |
| 21:28.59 | Maldivia | but then going to 0.6, and stayed same size... so don't really know :) |
| 21:29.01 | Neffi | TC-Work: here |
| 21:29.03 | Neffi | TC-Work: local l,r,t,b = 0,0,0,0; WorldFrame:ClearAllPoints(); WorldFrame:SetPoint('TOPLEFT',left,-top); WorldFrame:SetPoint('BOTTOMRIGHT',-right,bottom); WorldFrame:SetUserPlaced(true) |
| 21:29.16 | Neffi | Set the locals to the distance from that edge, left right top bottom |
| 21:29.20 | Neffi | errr |
| 21:29.30 | nevcairiel | Maldivia: well the limit used to be 0.64, and i never heard of them adjusting it |
| 21:29.31 | Neffi | local l,r,t,b = 0,0,0,0; WorldFrame:ClearAllPoints(); WorldFrame:SetPoint('TOPLEFT',l,-t); WorldFrame:SetPoint('BOTTOMRIGHT',-r,b); WorldFrame:SetUserPlaced(true) |
| 21:29.51 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: yeah, seems like it still is -- my bad |
| 21:30.11 | Neffi | WorldFrame:SetUserPlaced(false) to unset, then reload |
| 21:30.13 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: perhaps I entered 0.7 first but thought it was 0.6, or something like that |
| 21:32.21 | Maldivia | Dennls: you should be able to get it back to where it was, if you disable the scale again, or something ? |
| 21:32.21 | nevcairiel | unless your addons are seriously dumb |
| 21:32.21 | Dennls | yeah I got it back now lol |
| 21:32.21 | nevcairiel | many addons sadly dont deal with scale change |
| 21:32.21 | Dennls | yeah my kgpanels doesnt resize :( |
| 21:32.21 | nevcairiel | and move all over the place |
| 21:32.21 | Maldivia | they don't know how to parent to UIParent? |
| 21:33.32 | nevcairiel | well to inherit the scale sure, but for positioning you need to be a bit smarter |
| 21:42.24 | Semlar | the scale isn't changed at all in that picture |
| 21:42.31 | Maldivia | what's the method again to override, for hooking game tooltip to the cursor? |
| 21:43.29 | Neffi | GameTooltip_SetDefaultAnchor? |
| 21:44.24 | Semlar | i don't see why anything should display in the wrong place unless it's explicitly countering the ui scale |
| 21:46.33 | Semlar | isn't the internal resolution always the same |
| 21:47.25 | Semlar | if i put the game in windowed mode and resize the window everything stays in the same spot |
| 21:49.13 | Semlar | well, at least as long as ui scale is enabled |
| 21:51.49 | Unkle | Semlar: That was not always the case. |
| 21:52.26 | Unkle | But since they went to 1:1 rastering in like 3.x-something, so much better. |
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| 22:01.06 | Semlar | Shirik: the pad function encounters an integer overflow if the string contains large numbers so it's not a perfect solution |
| 22:02.31 | Semlar | granted i'm sure i can just replace "format" with my own function that deals with it as a string instead of a number |
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| 22:24.01 | Arrowmaster | i just picked up a 3ds xl zelda bundle for $150, not sure why i bought it but i did |
| 22:24.57 | Maldivia | sounds like a 1st world problem... |
| 22:25.27 | Dagmar | Not enough eye-strain in your life? |
| 22:28.38 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: >.< Same |
| 22:28.49 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: oh, well not the zelda one |
| 22:28.55 | TC-Work | even though I wanted it |
| 22:33.13 | Arrowmaster | TC-Work: target was out of the zelda bundles so i had walmart price match it |
| 22:33.33 | Dagmar | I still think the 3D effect is too gimmicky to be of any use |
| 22:33.46 | Dagmar | ...although the little AR card demo game is freaking crazy |
| 22:33.46 | Arrowmaster | nobody i know with a 3ds uses the 3d |
| 22:33.53 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: Ah, I did not want to go in |
| 22:34.14 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: It makes fishing in AC:NL slightly easier. THat's about it |
| 22:34.16 | Arrowmaster | TC-Work: what did you do then? the target sale was in store only |
| 22:34.26 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: No.... |
| 22:34.43 | Dagmar | Oh! Fire that fucker up and head to your nearest McDonalds or Barnes & Noble with the lid closed in sleep mode |
| 22:34.56 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: http://www.target.com/p/nintendo-3ds-xl-with-mario-luigi-dream-team-silver-limited-edition-nintendo-3ds-xl/-/A-14956701#prodSlot=medium_1_6 |
| 22:35.24 | Arrowmaster | ah the zelda was in store only then |
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| 22:35.28 | TC-Work | Yea |
| 22:35.51 | TC-Work | Which is what I wanted, but fuck going into a store. |
| 22:35.56 | TC-Work | ugh, people. |
| 22:36.19 | Dagmar | wayneBrady (gold pants Mii) available today via StreetPass |
| 22:36.31 | Dagmar | Probably not tomorrow, but who knows |
| 22:36.48 | Arrowmaster | explain for somebody thats never had a ds |
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| 22:38.00 | Dagmar | So, since American gamers are practically lone wolves outside of gameing conventions, at places where there's public Wifi (with the SSID 'attwifi' or 'BestBuy' mainly) in sleep mode the DS will do it's StreetPass thing against the open AP and their servers will *cache* the last six people who were there |
| 22:38.36 | Dagmar | When your DS in sleep mode gets near another DS, they swap your Miis, and with other people's Miis you can get magic internet points and puzzle pieces |
| 22:38.58 | Semlar | so it's contagious? |
| 22:39.22 | Dagmar | 'except on rare occasions they do celebrity Mii's that just show up at the StreetPass relay locations who have gold pants and are level 5 |
| 22:39.22 | Arrowmaster | yeah i saw that part at blizzcon, gOurra was sitting in the middle of the registration line with his 3ds |
| 22:39.34 | gOurra | :P |
| 22:39.39 | Dagmar | If you've got some of the same games as the other person, extra things will happen. |
| 22:40.18 | Dagmar | Like, if you pass about twenty Pokemon players, you can get a free potion. AC:NL players will find the other player's homes featured in a gallery (and you can then order the stuff they have, which makes collecting penis couches much easier) |
| 22:41.17 | Dagmar | I am determined to finally beat Find Mii II. |
| 22:41.33 | Dagmar | Fuck collecting all 929 puzzle pieces |
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| 22:50.56 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: http://bit.ly/wowuipokemon |
| 22:51.24 | Arrowmaster | i dont have any games for it other than what it came with |
| 22:51.46 | Dagmar | THis is where Nintendo has outdone themselves. |
| 22:52.27 | Dagmar | Thanks to the fact that it comes with a 4Gb SD card already inserted, you can wake up from a night of binge drinking having purchased exciting titles like Cooking Mama |
| 22:52.52 | Arrowmaster | so before i actually open this thing up and start using it instead of deciding to resell it, how does the DRM work |
| 22:52.57 | Dagmar | ...or, you know, Pokemon X, because it means not having to go anywhere near a mall right now. |
| 22:53.04 | Maldivia | dagmar: ... you were hungry, and tried ordering food using the wrong device? |
| 22:53.18 | Dagmar | the DRM appears to be basically tied to your Nintendo ID |
| 22:53.41 | Arrowmaster | i heard on reddit somebody swapped their wiiU at the store under warranty and lost all their purchased content |
| 22:53.51 | Dagmar | So... if you want something you can give to someone else, buy the teeny weeny cart. If you don't give a fuck, treat it like Steam |
| 22:54.10 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: If they'll call customer support they can get it sorted |
| 22:54.34 | Arrowmaster | that guy said support needed details from his old console he didnt have anymore |
| 22:54.47 | Dagmar | Some nitwit managed to delete their Nintendo ID last week, despite the warnings that all their purchases were tied to that. Support got things back for them |
| 22:55.42 | Arrowmaster | fine im cutting the seal on the box right now |
| 22:58.31 | Dagmar | Ah... http://www.reddit.com/r/3DS/comments/1quujy/important_discovery_regarding_system_transfers/ |
| 22:58.35 | Dagmar | Nothing much to really worry about |
| 22:59.59 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: nintendo is terrible with online purchases, everything is tied to the console opposed to a user ID |
| 23:02.49 | Dagmar | You can transfer them to another unit tho |
| 23:03.06 | Dagmar | The bloody thing even makes you look at screens saying how to do it at one point |
| 23:03.20 | Dagmar | By the way, they have disabled the Suprise Penis functionality in SwapNotes |
| 23:03.26 | Dagmar | ...the killjoys. |
| 23:03.40 | Arrowmaster | ahh my name is one character too long, why didnt you warn me before i opened the box |
| 23:06.54 | Stanzilla | Arrowmastr |
| 23:09.31 | Arrowmaster | i think i deserve a cookie or something after typing in my wifi pass and getting it correct the first try, but i cant have cookies on the diet i just started |
| 23:09.59 | Arrowmaster | damn 63 character random alphanumeric password |
| 23:11.47 | TC-Work | Overkill much? |
| 23:12.09 | Neffi | Anything over 62 is just nuts ;) |
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