| 00:01.52 | zenzelezz | animations I can understand, but character models, not so much... by level 10 you can't see anything except your face |
| 00:02.38 | foxlit | cause and effect. |
| 00:02.48 | foxlit | If the models stop sucking, they can design armor that hides less of them. |
| 00:03.04 | bleeter | at least it'll keep the ERPs happy. those gnome manboobs, I tell you |
| 00:04.00 | zenzelezz | true |
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| 00:43.55 | Sintacks | someone already mentioned it, but blizzard needs to get hte coder of arenalive to do their torney UI |
| 00:44.47 | jleclanche | Shirik: this video is amusing |
| 00:44.49 | jleclanche | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdqEmi1GbsE |
| 00:45.09 | jleclanche | how it evolves from a badass storyline to a bunch of "However a group of heroes..." towards the end of the vid as you get to WoW storyline |
| 00:49.28 | Kraps | ahhh so they're remaking outland |
| 00:49.33 | Kraps | cool |
| 00:54.41 | jleclanche | "There are only about six footstep sound surfaces now, but WoD will add many more." |
| 00:55.12 | jleclanche | maybe now walking on Teldrassil will not sound like you're tap dancing on a wooden crate |
| 00:56.41 | jleclanche | "There will be few or no daily quests at level 100!" |
| 00:56.52 | jleclanche | Yay! Thanks, Blizzard! You won't subject your players to your horrible development model! |
| 00:57.03 | jleclanche | talk about stockholm syndrome. |
| 00:57.56 | foxlit | I can't parse that. Is having no daily quests at 100 good or bad? |
| 00:59.51 | jleclanche | foxlit: they're announcing it as if it's some sort of great feature |
| 01:00.31 | jleclanche | CHANGELOG 1.1: You no longer get raped when you hit Ctrl+A |
| 01:02.18 | jleclanche | foxlit: its a good thing, but rather than "Hurray no daily quests!" it should probably be rephrased as "We understand our model of daily quests is flawed, frustrating, repetitive and adds no fun to the game and all in all is just a way for content designers to work less. We're doing away with it." |
| 01:02.41 | foxlit | yeah, okay, I get what you mean. I think stockholm syndrome would be something else. |
| 01:02.55 | foxlit | Say someone reacting to that by saying "hey, having 100 daily quests wasn't that bad, really!" |
| 01:05.39 | karl_w_w | they will go a model like one of the isles no doubt |
| 01:05.52 | karl_w_w | it's not like that's more dev work |
| 01:06.38 | jleclanche | i dont care how much they work, honestly |
| 01:06.46 | jleclanche | the problem with shortcuts isnt the lack of work, its the lack of fun |
| 01:07.21 | jleclanche | the isle is fun in several respects. it has lots of hidden content, neat stuff, rare drops, toys and so on |
| 01:09.21 | zenzelezz | which isle? |
| 01:09.58 | jleclanche | timeless isle |
| 01:10.05 | jleclanche | NOT quel danas. |
| 01:10.37 | jleclanche | i think there must be a recurring joke at blizzard about it |
| 01:10.42 | jleclanche | dont trust islands |
| 01:11.51 | jleclanche | quel danas, tol barad, Hrothgar's Landing, Isle of Thunder, Timeless Isle, ... |
| 01:12.03 | jleclanche | oh and |
| 01:12.09 | jleclanche | even when its not on water |
| 01:12.11 | jleclanche | netherwing ledge |
| 01:14.18 | foxlit | it's probably easier to get a new isle than to keep you out of continental zones while you have a flying mount. |
| 01:14.57 | jleclanche | wintergrasp? |
| 01:15.06 | jleclanche | though that WAS fucking annoying |
| 01:15.16 | foxlit | shipped at release. |
| 01:15.37 | jleclanche | it still is in fact. nobody plays there anymore and if you happen to fly over it in the 25% or so time it's up |
| 01:15.37 | jleclanche | BAM |
| 01:23.15 | zenzelezz | even though I know it's just about inevitable that it happens in MMOs, I always feel a bit sad when I pass through old zones; once lively, now only visited briefly for leveling |
| 01:30.33 | foxlit | um, why would my wrapped secure handler code silently fail to run? |
| 01:30.57 | alestane | Frame isn't explicitly protected? |
| 01:31.01 | foxlit | I have something like SecureHandlerWrapScript(button, "OnClick", self, [[print("foo")]]) |
| 01:31.34 | foxlit | by the looks of it, explicit protection is only required for the headers. |
| 01:31.37 | alestane | There are a few things that make the wrapping system decline to run the wrap. |
| 01:31.42 | alestane | Or so I remember. |
| 01:31.48 | foxlit | It changes the OnClick handler, in any case. |
| 01:31.51 | alestane | It's been a while since I was looking at the code in question. |
| 01:32.13 | alestane | It does create the wrapper, but the wrap will get skipped under certain conditions. |
| 01:35.15 | foxlit | I don't think there's any bailing before Wrapped_Click |
| 01:35.29 | foxlit | which checks IsWrapEligible, but that just returns true outside combat lockdown. |
| 01:38.41 | foxlit | Heh, okay, so it fails later. |
| 01:40.00 | foxlit | well, that's just annoying. |
| 01:42.09 | foxlit | The wrapped frame isn't explicitly protected, so it can't get a frame handler to invoke the wrap script with. |
| 01:43.35 | foxlit | you really should check for that in SecureHandlerWrapScript and throw an error explicitly -- there's no way you can wrap anything on an unprotected frame, even if the rest of the securehandlers code kind of makes it seem like you can. |
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| 02:15.53 | alestane | Iriel was responsible for that check... I remember trying to talk all the way through the possibilities with him once. |
| 02:20.16 | foxlit | It's correct that this fails for OnClick. |
| 02:21.26 | foxlit | (well, maybe not explicit protection, but you'd need at least implicit protection -- otherwise, :Disable() and :Enable() on unprotected frames can control secure execution flow) |
| 02:36.32 | znf | foxlit, Purrmetheus still works, doesn't it? |
| 02:36.55 | foxlit | probably. It needs a client patch to fix, in any case. |
| 02:37.03 | foxlit | I don't think there's been one. |
| 02:37.32 | karl_w_w | it was working the day before yesterday |
| 02:38.15 | karl_w_w | and I doubt they'd be putting patches out during bc |
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| 02:46.48 | A-KO | Hey |
| 02:46.52 | A-KO | sending that pic to kd3 now |
| 02:48.21 | A-KO | sending both the raw and the JPG |
| 02:48.25 | A-KO | so it's 18MB |
| 02:54.05 | A-KO | Anyone want to see the pic? I |
| 02:54.11 | A-KO | I'll upload to imgur or something |
| 02:54.19 | A-KO | Can see all us nerds |
| 02:55.42 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/i/code.png <3 the highlighting. |
| 02:57.22 | A-KO | http://i.imgur.com/Xr1vZ9w.jpg |
| 02:57.27 | A-KO | I'm sure kd3 will post it somewhere else |
| 02:57.31 | A-KO | but there ya go :D |
| 02:59.11 | A-KO | I like how that turned out |
| 03:08.49 | znf | looks at foxlit |
| 03:08.52 | znf | what are you breaking noiw?! |
| 03:09.15 | znf | A-KO, needs nameplates :D |
| 03:09.20 | znf | I found Torhal, though |
| 03:09.23 | znf | that is Torhal, right? |
| 03:10.51 | A-KO | somewhere |
| 03:10.51 | A-KO | lol |
| 03:16.33 | bleeter | A-KO: geez, some people aren't aging all that well =) |
| 03:16.44 | TC-Work | That's what I was thinking |
| 03:16.51 | TC-Work | What a bunch of old farts |
| 03:17.01 | A-KO | LOL |
| 03:17.22 | bleeter | can you imagine the aggro range on the collective mid-life crises yeoowsers |
| 03:17.42 | A-KO | I think it turned out nicely |
| 03:17.53 | bleeter | it did |
| 03:19.15 | TC-Work | I think I can label at least half of those people by memory. |
| 03:19.23 | TC-Work | I do it when I get home |
| 03:19.39 | TC-Work | I'll* |
| 03:19.41 | bleeter | I can label them all by memory |
| 03:19.50 | bleeter | old fart, old fart, old fart, old fart... |
| 03:19.56 | A-KO | we're not that old |
| 03:20.02 | TC-Work | That's not memory, that's a lack of |
| 03:20.19 | bleeter | TC-Work: wait 'til you're my age, that's memory :P |
| 03:20.42 | bleeter | A-KO: true, just a bunch of kids really :P |
| 03:20.48 | TC-Work | bleeter: How will I know that? |
| 03:20.50 | A-KO | haha |
| 03:21.49 | TC-Work | ugh, up to 59 hours so far this week. TIme to head home...ish. |
| 03:29.03 | Stanzilla | oh man old farts united on that pic :D |
| 03:29.33 | Stanzilla | foxlit: which font is that? |
| 03:29.39 | foxlit | is there like some really obvious Arrow Up icon in Interface\Icons? |
| 03:30.15 | foxlit | Stanzilla: Menlo |
| 03:30.38 | Stanzilla | thought so |
| 03:31.20 | Stanzilla | sadly the windows version looks pretty shitty |
| 03:31.21 | Stanzilla | (meslo) |
| 03:36.59 | Stanzilla | foxlit: https://db.tt/ikp39ELY |
| 03:37.00 | Stanzilla | :/ |
| 03:37.37 | foxlit | everything looks blurry on this screen. |
| 03:38.03 | foxlit | but those semicolons are pretty yuck. |
| 03:38.09 | Stanzilla | even if you click on the image? |
| 03:39.44 | foxlit | Yes, but it's a local issue. |
| 03:40.05 | Stanzilla | well I would have though that you're talking about windows cleartype then:D |
| 03:40.21 | Stanzilla | t |
| 03:40.32 | foxlit | It's displaying your 1170x334 image on 2340x668 pixels, which breaks the cleartype assumptions. |
| 03:40.38 | Stanzilla | nice |
| 03:41.02 | Ressy | wow.... Whoever's doing audio for Blink182 sucks. |
| 03:41.03 | foxlit | could shrink it to 50% which makes things look sharp, but then the text is tiny. |
| 03:41.15 | foxlit | Ressy: welcome to Blizzcon? |
| 03:41.35 | foxlit | they'll probably fix it by the end of the broadcast. Happened to Ozzy, too. |
| 03:41.59 | Ressy | People are tweeting to @Blizzcon and they're messaging the audio ppl to fix it. |
| 03:42.47 | Ressy | Can actually hear the mics now. |
| 03:45.33 | foxlit | znf: to answer your question: http://www.go-hero.net/i/slice.jpg |
| 03:48.58 | bleeter | Ressy: no, that's just blink 182's usual suckage |
| 03:50.01 | Ressy | Sound was fixed.. Sounds better |
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| 03:55.01 | Stanzilla | just upgraded to sublime 3, some day I should really buy it |
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| 04:09.19 | Sintacks | k. |
| 04:09.25 | Sintacks | wow still crashed with like.. no fucking addons. |
| 04:09.51 | Sintacks | (no being, grid a a few modules, power auras, prat, bartender. and i think that's it |
| 04:10.13 | Stanzilla | how is that "no"? :D |
| 04:10.51 | foxlit | doesn't power auras let you run arbitrary code anyway? |
| 04:12.07 | Sintacks | it's no in that, i normally run like, 150+ |
| 04:12.13 | Sintacks | wat, foxlit |
| 04:14.20 | foxlit | I may be confusing it with some other addon with auras in its name. |
| 04:15.04 | Sintacks | power auras is what weak auras killed |
| 04:15.08 | Sintacks | but it's not really dead. |
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| 05:43.13 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/FNq3Kk4.jpg lol |
| 05:43.19 | Neffi | +1 Netflix |
| 05:50.25 | Dagmar | hehe |
| 05:59.55 | Neffi | I suspect somebody here is responsible for these shenanigans: http://i.imgur.com/Fh8h5m6.gif |
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| 06:14.31 | bleeter | also |
| 06:14.40 | bleeter | blizz's promo videos still all 2D ... BOOO |
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| 06:17.42 | Dagmar | How is that unreasonable? |
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| 06:49.43 | Neffi | lua> math.floor(-19.5) |
| 06:49.43 | lua_bot | Neffi: -20 |
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| 07:48.39 | Ironi | how come floor(-19.5) is -20 -.O |
| 07:50.34 | nevcairiel | sbecause its floor, not round |
| 07:54.18 | Shirik | floor(-19.1) is also 20 |
| 07:54.36 | tzarc | -20 |
| 07:54.41 | Shirik | -20 |
| 07:55.59 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 07:56.01 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 07:56.02 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 07:57.09 | bluspacecow | hey Shirik |
| 07:57.13 | Shirik | hey bluspacecow |
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| 07:57.48 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 07:58.18 | Ironi | i just thought floor would just drop all decimals instead calculating something ;P |
| 07:58.26 | Fisker | I want arrowmaster Shirik |
| 07:58.34 | nevcairiel | the floor is always below you, so the number will always be smaller |
| 08:00.46 | Ironi | btw, has anyone been able to make SecureTemplates work with glyphs |
| 08:00.53 | Ironi | i didn't have any luck with it |
| 08:01.10 | Ironi | it just doens't do anything |
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| 08:05.06 | Neffi | Ironi: floor() rounds down, ceil() rounds up, always |
| 08:05.23 | Neffi | We say that floor() drops the decimals, because that's what happens above 0 |
| 08:05.39 | Shirik | it actually doesn't |
| 08:06.17 | Shirik | well I guess it's not fair for me to consider cases where I exceed the limitations of a float |
| 08:06.21 | Fisker | wanna fight about it? |
| 08:06.25 | Shirik | because it will have already been wrong |
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| 08:11.42 | Ironi | http://pastebin.com/2jpzM3SE that's the code relevant to glyphs if someone is bored enough |
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| 08:25.54 | A-KO | and back in my room |
| 08:26.01 | A-KO | Blizzcon. Truly an epic event. |
| 08:26.18 | Shirik | stop rubbing it in |
| 08:26.22 | Shirik | also wtf it's only 12:30 |
| 08:26.25 | Shirik | you should be out partying |
| 08:26.50 | A-KO | I was.... |
| 08:26.58 | A-KO | but I'm sloshed now and tired :/ |
| 08:27.02 | A-KO | and had to do a #2 so |
| 08:27.03 | A-KO | lol |
| 08:27.14 | A-KO | I've had like 7 captain and cokes and 2 shots |
| 08:32.24 | Fisker | hey A-KO |
| 08:32.27 | Fisker | I want arrowmaster |
| 08:32.29 | A-KO | yo |
| 08:32.42 | A-KO | He's back at the Marriott pool. I'm back at my room in a distant hotel :P |
| 08:32.44 | A-KO | I can text him, though |
| 08:32.48 | Fisker | do it |
| 08:32.56 | A-KO | okay. |
| 08:32.59 | A-KO | What do you want me to say? |
| 08:33.48 | karl_w_w | pimply panda penises |
| 08:34.36 | Fisker | i want his body |
| 08:35.47 | A-KO | sent |
| 08:35.52 | A-KO | Seriously. Blizzcon is epic. |
| 08:35.58 | Fisker | rub it in |
| 08:36.01 | Shirik | this is the first blizzcon I've missed in a while :( |
| 08:36.11 | A-KO | To me this is the most epic one yet. |
| 08:36.15 | Shirik | fu |
| 08:36.34 | A-KO | lol |
| 08:37.02 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 08:37.10 | Fisker | we'll fuck them up next year, agreed? |
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| 08:37.25 | Shirik | wat |
| 08:37.27 | Shirik | yes |
| 08:37.34 | Shirik | hi kd3|netbook |
| 08:37.35 | kd3|netbook | 'lo |
| 08:37.37 | Shirik | I appreciate your email taunt |
| 08:37.42 | kd3|netbook | yw |
| 08:37.53 | bluspacecow | *sticks Tongue in A-Ko's ear* |
| 08:38.01 | Fisker | hi kd3|netbook |
| 08:38.01 | bluspacecow | now i'm awesome by proxy |
| 08:38.09 | kd3|netbook | hi fisker |
| 08:38.20 | Fisker | we were just talking about you kd3|netbook |
| 08:38.28 | kd3|netbook | I heard |
| 08:39.01 | Fisker | Now we're just waiting for arrowmaster |
| 08:39.47 | A-KO | lol |
| 08:39.53 | kd3|netbook | when I left he was on his way to the hilton with the rest of the group. don't hold your breath on his getting on tonight |
| 08:40.05 | A-KO | lol |
| 08:40.13 | A-KO | hi bluspacecow |
| 08:40.34 | Fisker | :( kd3|netbook |
| 08:40.59 | Fisker | I need him |
| 08:42.05 | A-KO | You want his epic beard |
| 08:43.00 | Fisker | nah |
| 08:44.01 | Fisker | I just want him to http://i.imgur.com/k6xAEmT.jpg |
| 08:45.13 | bluspacecow | is that an alcatel one touch ? |
| 08:45.23 | Fisker | noipe bluspacecow |
| 08:45.29 | bluspacecow | and baggiest ? |
| 08:45.31 | bluspacecow | wat |
| 08:45.31 | Fisker | wanna survive 2014? |
| 08:45.52 | bluspacecow | ohhh baby |
| 08:45.54 | Fisker | That's what I thought |
| 08:46.33 | Fisker | hmm |
| 08:46.44 | Fisker | already unofficial CM11 nightlies for the N% |
| 08:46.47 | Fisker | n5* |
| 08:48.49 | bluspacecow | what phone is that oh master of baggy dicks ? |
| 08:49.36 | Fisker | arrowmaster isn't here bluspacecow |
| 08:49.50 | bluspacecow | oh ok |
| 08:50.04 | Dagmar | I'd just like it if they'd stop yanking their 10.1.3 releases |
| 08:52.05 | bluspacecow | of which Dagmar (#Irslowpoke) |
| 08:52.25 | Fisker | anyway bluspacecow |
| 08:52.27 | Fisker | it's a nexus 4 |
| 08:52.35 | bluspacecow | oh rly |
| 08:54.17 | Fisker | ya rly bluspacecow |
| 08:55.02 | bluspacecow | no wai! |
| 09:01.14 | Fisker | touches bluspacecow |
| 09:01.23 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:16.33 | AcidWeb | kd3: Nice photo. But if you already send it to everybody small information who-is-who would be nice :-) |
| 09:30.37 | jleclanche | https://pay.reddit.com/r/Magic/comments/1q9zsd/pro_tip_never_leave_your_invisible_deck_in_a_room/ |
| 09:30.43 | jleclanche | magicians get funny problems in life. |
| 09:30.56 | Shirik | soooooo |
| 09:31.00 | Shirik | definitely read that as "invisible dick" |
| 09:32.08 | Fisker | that's also a bad idea Shirik |
| 09:32.15 | Fisker | but go to sleep Shirik you're drunk |
| 09:36.20 | Shirik | I think that was yesterday |
| 09:37.59 | Fisker | I'm not so sure anymore |
| 09:41.02 | Fisker | my feet are cold Shirik |
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| 10:34.59 | airtonix | k |
| 10:37.25 | jleclanche | http://xkcd.com/1288/ |
| 10:37.25 | jleclanche | ahahah |
| 10:37.31 | jleclanche | oh god |
| 10:37.40 | jleclanche | jnwhiteh: ^ |
| 10:37.59 | jnwhiteh | jleclanche: hahah awesome |
| 10:38.07 | Fisker | :( |
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| 12:14.48 | Hazal | Is there any way to detect that you're on your "way" to a pet battle after loading into the area where you will battle your opponent (PvP) ? C_PetBattles.IsInBattle() and C_PetBattles.CanAcceptQueuedPVPMatch() both returns false while you're waiting + C_PetBattles.GetPVPMatchmakingInfo() queustate returns nil. |
| 12:17.22 | karl_w_w | how is it pallies always forget to buff |
| 12:17.34 | karl_w_w | they are the buff class! |
| 12:21.43 | Hazal | Example of what I was saying: I'm using the following macro: http://pastebin.com/yRBtWmau which results in: http://i.imgur.com/sJ0bbGx.jpg |
| 12:23.35 | jleclanche | ~ping |
| 12:23.35 | purl | ~pong |
| 12:25.13 | Hazal | When those conditions are met I would think C_PetBattles.StartPVPMatchmaking() should be possible but NOPE it will give me "Pet battle already in progress." printed to my main chat window. So is there any way to know what conditions C_PetBattles.StartPVPMatchmaking() need? |
| 12:29.25 | karl_w_w | that's decided server side Hazal |
| 12:29.57 | karl_w_w | I'm pretty sure the only way to remember if you're in that little waiting period is to remember if the user just accepted a pop |
| 12:30.13 | karl_w_w | I said remember twice by mistake |
| 12:38.05 | Hazal | I'm quite interested in how the API will be like for the Garrisons in 6.0 |
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| 13:12.55 | karl_w_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:13.02 | karl_w_w | good thing I didn't buy it last week |
| 13:14.22 | Fisker | did you sign up for heroes of the storm last week karl_w_w ? |
| 13:14.35 | karl_w_w | yes Fisker |
| 13:15.26 | karl_w_w | what is ftl - linux depot? |
| 13:15.41 | Fisker | a linux depot for ftl |
| 13:16.23 | karl_w_w | thanks, everything is so much clearer now |
| 13:16.55 | Fisker | np |
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| 13:17.09 | Fisker | what else do you think it is? |
| 13:17.39 | karl_w_w | I don't |
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| 13:45.22 | Fisker | touches bluspacecow on the bear |
| 13:55.45 | foxlit | http://townlong-yak.com/forward/ << thoughts? |
| 13:59.56 | Thunder_Child | Nice |
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| 14:01.03 | Thunder_Child | Too bad the camera angle cant be touched anymore, you could make your own auto flight paths |
| 14:02.40 | foxlit | well. |
| 14:05.27 | foxlit | "no comment" |
| 14:05.42 | foxlit | But this requires a hardware event anyway, so no automation for anyone. |
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| 14:16.40 | Neffi | foxlit: Clicking Download redirects to about:blank |
| 14:17.22 | foxlit | That's where it currently links, yes. |
| 14:17.28 | foxlit | Here, have a video: http://townlong-yak.com/forward/files/Forward.mp4 |
| 14:18.03 | bluspacecow | *eats it* |
| 14:18.29 | Neffi | I wanted to see your code |
| 14:18.37 | Neffi | curious how it's done |
| 14:19.43 | foxlit | you know what they say; curiosity is a serial cat-killer. |
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| 14:33.14 | A-KO | Morning |
| 14:33.16 | bluspacecow | *eats foxlit's code* |
| 14:33.18 | bluspacecow | *burp* |
| 14:33.21 | bluspacecow | starchy |
| 14:33.28 | A-KO | Hey bluspacecow |
| 14:33.34 | bluspacecow | Morning |
| 14:33.42 | bluspacecow | that implies you went to sleep A-Ko |
| 14:34.05 | A-KO | I di. Likely going back to sleep, too. Lol |
| 14:34.44 | A-KO | Yes. Im gonna do that right now. Heh |
| 14:34.58 | A-KO | Sleepy A-KO is sleepy |
| 14:35.26 | bluspacecow | In a bed I hope |
| 14:35.37 | bluspacecow | and not face down in a gutter choking on your own vomit :( |
| 14:44.21 | karl_w_w | have you exploded a wrinkler bluspacecow? |
| 14:44.37 | bluspacecow | O_O! |
| 14:44.40 | bluspacecow | yes I has! |
| 14:44.50 | bluspacecow | BBL Need to go clean that up |
| 15:02.12 | zenzelezz | looking at my order history on this computer webshop, you can pretty much tell when I get my salary |
| 15:19.45 | karl_w_w | I love the new youtube comment system |
| 15:19.55 | karl_w_w | said nobody ever |
| 15:21.34 | Neffi | you just said it |
| 15:23.10 | foxlit | "I love the old youtube comment system" is also a pretty rare sentiment. |
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| 15:28.55 | karl_w_w | the system was ok before |
| 15:32.48 | foxlit | and it's still ok? :) |
| 15:35.37 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 15:35.47 | karl_w_w | pull the other one |
| 15:36.13 | foxlit | does it have bells on? |
| 15:43.31 | foxlit | I mean, let's turn to the authority on all things internet: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=YouTube%20Comments |
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| 16:06.52 | TC-Work | zenzelezz: and when you lose it. |
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| 16:18.48 | TC-Work | Does anyone have experience with the RT-AC68U? |
| 16:33.59 | Fisker | yes |
| 16:36.05 | Fisker | tc |
| 16:36.16 | Fisker | TC-Work |
| 16:38.51 | Fisker | stingrays |
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| 16:55.03 | foxlit | what's a reasonable framexml template just for having a button-sized icon with a sane border + hover effect? |
| 16:57.03 | TC-Work | Fisker: Any good? |
| 16:57.49 | Fisker | the first few builds had stability issues otherwise it's been fine |
| 17:00.40 | Fisker | basically when you downloaded torrents the router would crash |
| 17:01.40 | TC-Work | Well, I was only going to use it for wireless and not my PC so that I can live with |
| 17:02.20 | Fisker | It was fixed in the latest firmware build |
| 17:02.39 | Fisker | But last I heard it was basically the best AC router at the moment |
| 17:02.44 | Fisker | the netgear one was apparently not that great |
| 17:07.37 | TC-Work | Sounds good |
| 17:09.52 | Fisker | ^^ |
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| 17:14.10 | A-KO|phone | Sup |
| 17:17.08 | Fisker | soup |
| 17:17.30 | A-KO|phone | Just waking up |
| 17:18.02 | Fisker | good |
| 17:19.36 | Fisker | :( |
| 17:34.15 | TC-Work | I am bored Fisker. |
| 17:34.22 | Fisker | not good |
| 17:34.46 | TC-Work | Well, I am at work. |
| 17:35.17 | TC-Work | 61 hours so far |
| 17:35.20 | Fisker | O_o |
| 17:40.02 | Neffi | but there's only 24 hours in a day |
| 17:40.06 | Neffi | do you work for god? |
| 17:40.11 | TC-Work | huh, you can hit 80 hours of work in a week without ever hitting double time. |
| 17:40.20 | TC-Work | No, but he thinks he is. |
| 17:40.27 | Neffi | good response |
| 17:42.05 | foxlit | why does IsQuestFlaggedCompleted occasionally return nonsense? |
| 17:43.20 | TC-Work | So I just bought it. If it doest work Fisker, I'm blaming you. |
| 17:43.31 | TC-Work | doesn't* |
| 17:43.32 | Fisker | good |
| 17:43.56 | Fisker | The update-check didn't work when I got it, so just be sure to get the newest one from support.asus.com when you get it |
| 17:44.15 | TC-Work | Right. |
| 17:45.28 | Fisker | well it may work but they probably don't put the newest one up there right away :D |
| 17:45.53 | TC-Work | I do wonder if it is better to give the external ip to ther router or keep it on my PC. |
| 17:46.11 | TC-Work | The router will just be for wireless. |
| 17:48.57 | Fisker | you use your pc as a router? |
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| 17:50.06 | TC-Work | Nope |
| 17:50.38 | TC-Work | Though I have had issues with games via the isp pos. |
| 17:51.45 | Fisker | UPNP does it for me |
| 17:51.51 | Fisker | otherwise you can always use DMZ |
| 17:53.05 | TC-Work | Well, I should put my system behind a nat at least. |
| 17:53.19 | TC-Work | Maybe get a hardware firewall at some point as well |
| 17:54.09 | bluspacecow | dang it |
| 17:54.22 | bluspacecow | where is a Cairenn when you need to link cute animals to ? |
| 17:54.27 | bluspacecow | http://distractify.com/fun/animals-fun/animals-that-already-won-no-shave-november/ |
| 17:54.29 | TC-Work | At blizzcon |
| 17:54.39 | bluspacecow | oh yeah ..... |
| 17:54.59 | bluspacecow | or travelling back from it |
| 17:55.20 | TC-Work | Nah, I think she does the disneyland stuff on sundays |
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| 18:01.39 | foxlit | whoops. |
| 18:01.43 | foxlit | I wrote something you can't /dump |
| 18:02.23 | Neffi | huh? |
| 18:03.03 | Fisker | hax Neffi |
| 18:03.12 | foxlit | http://pastebin.com/SETkdCuz |
| 18:03.53 | Neffi | what was it? |
| 18:04.32 | foxlit | cue Fisker. |
| 18:04.40 | Fisker | sup foxlit? |
| 18:04.55 | foxlit | that's where you're supposed to repeat "hax Neffi" |
| 18:05.17 | Fisker | ah |
| 18:05.18 | Fisker | hax Neffi |
| 18:05.24 | Neffi | fail |
| 18:05.25 | Fisker | I don't like redundancy |
| 18:08.08 | foxlit | It tries to index something silly, falls into a metatable, which doubles up on the silly. |
| 18:09.37 | Neffi | lua> t={}t.__index=t;setmetatable(t,t)print(t.a) |
| 18:09.37 | lua_bot | Neffi: luabot:1: loop in gettable |
| 18:10.06 | Fisker | why are you trying to break wow foxlit? |
| 18:10.15 | Fisker | Do you just want to watch the world burn? |
| 18:10.45 | Sintacks | hit disable all ... now everything's fucked up and i have to go through everything again :| |
| 18:11.20 | foxlit | remember: work harder, not smarter. |
| 18:13.07 | Fisker | worldburnerer |
| 18:13.52 | foxlit | Hey, all I wanted was not to have to worry about spawning additional overlords. |
| 18:14.13 | Fisker | you need to spawn more warlords now |
| 18:15.23 | Neffi | but you don't have enough underlings |
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| 18:37.33 | foxlit | ScrollFrame:GetScrollChild:GetHeight() - ScrollFrame:GetHeight() < ScrollFrame:GetVerticalScrollRange() << why> |
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| 18:49.32 | repoman | hello |
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| 19:12.46 | TC-Work | I got introduced to a new term today 'Dirty Power.' |
| 19:15.44 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/i/witch.jpg << does that 4+4 look reasonable? |
| 19:16.38 | foxlit | Or should I split it into two icons -- one for ready-to-gather, one for still-growing? |
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| 19:21.21 | Fisker | Yeah I don't get that |
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| 19:28.49 | foxlit | Fisker: but would you get it in the other configuration? |
| 19:29.29 | Fisker | I think the issue is more a question of how it would look |
| 19:29.40 | Fisker | You could always add (Ready for harvest + Still growing) at the top |
| 19:29.43 | Fisker | But it just looks odd |
| 19:29.49 | Fisker | So yeah I think another row of icons would work |
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| 19:31.29 | foxlit | basically, everything that's faded brown is still growing. |
| 19:32.31 | foxlit | Everything that's not is gatherable; though if you have a plant type that is both growing and gatherable, it merges the two buttons into one and displays the X+Y text. |
| 19:32.44 | Fisker | ah |
| 19:33.09 | Fisker | Then maybe just have an extra icon |
| 19:33.12 | Fisker | in my opinion atleast |
| 19:33.17 | Fisker | no need for an entire second row |
| 19:33.40 | foxlit | the second block of icons is intended to be a different character, anyhow |
| 19:33.52 | foxlit | Using the same name header twice might've been a mistake. |
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| 19:34.53 | Fisker | Yeah I figured that much |
| 19:35.02 | Fisker | Since you can only have 16 plants :P |
| 19:36.25 | Kaelten | G'morning all |
| 19:36.27 | Kaelten | how is everyone? |
| 19:37.55 | Fisker | good |
| 19:38.02 | Fisker | But I can't speak for everyone |
| 19:38.42 | Kaelten | you should get their permission and then you could |
| 19:40.19 | Fisker | Should I go door to door? |
| 19:40.46 | Kaelten | While it may seem overly laborious I'm not sure there's much of a better option. |
| 19:41.13 | Fisker | bbl |
| 19:44.59 | Tuller | random comment. |
| 19:45.14 | Fisker | random rul |
| 19:45.16 | Fisker | erefadsdoamldæ |
| 19:45.18 | Fisker | random Tuller |
| 19:54.38 | Sintacks | the most annoyuing part about tryin to figure out which addon is making me crash is it's almost random when i crash |
| 19:54.52 | Sintacks | cuz i have no idea what is causing it cuz there's no lua error and no crash error. |
| 19:54.57 | Sintacks | game just completley locks up |
| 19:55.46 | Sintacks | the only addons im sure it's not are power auras and grid. cuz i've tested those two off (seperately) and still crashed |
| 19:58.18 | znf | an addon is making your game crash...?!? |
| 19:58.30 | znf | also, really, power auras? :-/ |
| 19:58.39 | znf | what's this? 2011? |
| 19:58.42 | Sintacks | lol |
| 19:58.57 | Sintacks | I use it cuz weakauras can't do what i use it for (without a weird custom escript i don't want to write) |
| 19:59.21 | Sintacks | that being, count upwards time since activation |
| 19:59.23 | znf | I kind of doubt that O.O |
| 19:59.56 | Sintacks | also, weak auras makes two icons i use power auras look weird for some reason |
| 20:00.10 | Sintacks | but those two icons aren't jreally that important |
| 20:00.17 | Sintacks | it's the druid set that's important |
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| 20:11.42 | Semlar | Interface\AddOns\Blizzard_PVPUI\Blizzard_PVPUI.lua:643: attempt to compare number with nil |
| 20:11.50 | Semlar | :l |
| 20:12.32 | Sintacks | lol |
| 20:12.41 | Sintacks | did you watch any other the arena at blizzcon? |
| 20:12.56 | Sintacks | their own arena spectator addon was throwing errors |
| 20:13.04 | Semlar | problem? |
| 20:13.16 | Semlar | i get this like every time i zone |
| 20:13.24 | Semlar | i don't know if an addon is tainting it or what |
| 20:13.25 | Sintacks | that's weird |
| 20:13.31 | Sintacks | go look at the code for that line |
| 20:13.36 | foxlit | I don't, Semlar, so it's your fault. |
| 20:15.17 | Semlar | it usually is |
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| 20:39.51 | Kaelten | Sintacks: that should really never happen. Fastest way to find it is to do a binary search of your addons. Disable half, and then if you don't freeze you start enabling half at a time until you do, etc |
| 20:39.56 | Dennls | <Deadly Boss Mods> Combat against 10 Player - Garrosh Hellscream (15%) ended after 10 minutes and 46 seconds. You have 67 total wipes on this difficulty. |
| 20:40.35 | Semlar | well it was a good effort |
| 20:41.35 | Semlar | are you 2 healing it? |
| 20:41.59 | Dennls | tried 2 and 3 |
| 20:42.05 | Dennls | mixed results |
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| 20:42.37 | Semlar | are you ignoring the weapons after the first phase |
| 20:43.01 | Dennls | DoT them |
| 20:43.12 | Dennls | they die in time |
| 20:43.28 | Semlar | you don't really need to waste any dps on the weapons after coming out of the heart |
| 20:44.09 | Semlar | also all of your dps should be specced for single target damage |
| 20:44.50 | Dennls | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-jgbaf97mxnp00lpt/sum/damageDone/?s=2938&e=3579 |
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| 20:45.31 | Semlar | you can technically have a tank kite the adds at the end but that's a little dangerous |
| 20:46.07 | Semlar | monk could do it |
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| 20:47.02 | Dennls | DPS are losing threat on their adds |
| 20:47.23 | Semlar | to.. the tanks? |
| 20:47.30 | Dennls | yes |
| 20:47.34 | Dennls | even if the tanks do nothing |
| 20:47.41 | Dennls | literally I stand still not using any spells |
| 20:47.42 | Semlar | they must be doing something |
| 20:47.44 | Dennls | and I get a bunch of them on me |
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| 20:49.44 | Semlar | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-jgbaf97mxnp00lpt/analyze/dd/spell/?source=11&s=2938&e=3579&target=34 |
| 20:50.27 | Dennls | that was last attempt where I was on the boss |
| 20:50.39 | Dennls | switches arround wether me or the prot is on him |
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| 20:50.53 | Dennls | semlar: how would you have a tank kite them if you need to tankswap? |
| 20:51.02 | Semlar | why would you need to tank swap |
| 20:51.06 | Dennls | stacks |
| 20:51.35 | Semlar | depends on how low you have him i guess |
| 20:51.44 | Dennls | if we dont switch you get like 11 stacks |
| 20:51.51 | Dennls | before losing them from empowered whirling |
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| 20:55.26 | Semlar | it also looks like all of your ranged are killing weapons so you might want to have them focus on garrosh |
| 20:56.18 | Semlar | after the first heart you can just drop them around the edge of the room and ignore them |
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| 21:01.43 | Semlar | i don't know much about mages but should living bomb be most of his damage? |
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| 21:02.59 | Semlar | he's only doing like 100k dps to garrosh |
| 21:03.24 | Dennls | yeah we're missing our shadow priest |
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| 21:03.58 | Fisker | good night friendos |
| 21:04.00 | Fisker | Kaelten |
| 21:04.09 | sintAcks | get DC'd cuz internet is being gay. log back in, instantly lock up... so it's got to be one of the addons that is still turned on. |
| 21:04.09 | Kaelten | Fisker |
| 21:04.17 | Fisker | I'm being cute |
| 21:04.26 | Kaelten | sintAcks: yup, so turn off half again |
| 21:04.36 | sintAcks | i have like.. 90% turned off |
| 21:04.38 | sintAcks | not just half |
| 21:04.46 | sintAcks | i had 4 on earlier and still crashed |
| 21:04.52 | Kaelten | well half of the remainder |
| 21:05.24 | sintAcks | bartender, grid and some modules, power auras and prat |
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| 21:12.45 | nevcairiel | stupid blizzard, they release their new wallpaper in a special ipad resolution, but dont bother to include one in 2560x1600! |
| 21:12.51 | foxlit | "Sintacks: game just completley locks up" << this should not be called "crashing" |
| 21:13.02 | nevcairiel | sadly many people call a lock-up a crash |
| 21:13.07 | nevcairiel | its totally confusing at times |
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| 21:36.28 | Kraps | Leveling in WoD will be a fun and fast paced romp through the zones. The team is backing off the idea that leveling should be a long grind. |
| 21:36.30 | Kraps | um? |
| 21:37.29 | foxlit | Have you ever been to Kun-Lai? That place tends to drag on. and on. and on. |
| 21:38.13 | Kraps | i have not |
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| 21:38.39 | foxlit | Still not 90? shun! |
| 21:38.44 | Kraps | the warcraft movie will be animated or live action |
| 21:39.08 | Kraps | nah i quit near the beginning of mists |
| 21:39.15 | Kraps | let me rephrase |
| 21:39.29 | Kraps | will the warcraft movie be animated or live action? |
| 21:40.12 | foxlit | yes. see also: avatar. |
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| 21:40.45 | Kraps | ah |
| 21:40.56 | Kraps | cool |
| 21:44.51 | foxlit | gah, MOVEANDSTEER no longer stops my autorun :( |
| 21:45.36 | Kraps | whats heroes of the storm |
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| 21:46.47 | Kraps | Garrosh will be put on trial and escape before a verdict. He is going back in time, altering the current timeline slightly. |
| 21:46.53 | Kraps | haha thats funny |
| 21:49.08 | Kraps | so i guess theres housing now |
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| 21:50.28 | Kraps | wheres dance studio????? |
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| 21:55.43 | Kraps | the new character models look amazing |
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| 22:00.22 | foxlit | Um, can I bind something to holding BOTH the left and right mouse buttons at the same time? |
| 22:01.06 | Kraps | is Heroes of the Storm dota |
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| 22:06.15 | Iriel | Kraps: essentialy |
| 22:06.30 | Iriel | It was initailly "Blizzard Dota" then "Blizzard All-Stars" |
| 22:07.04 | nevcairiel | all games in the whole genre are really very similar |
| 22:07.16 | Iriel | I dont know the genre enough to say how it's different |
| 22:08.45 | nevcairiel | Kraps: if you look closely you'll find the dance studio; http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2013/november/bconWoWRAD020.jpg |
| 22:09.16 | Kraps | well i tried the dota on steam once and that was a mess, no idea what was going on |
| 22:09.37 | nevcairiel | dota2 had a bit of a steeper learning curve then its competition |
| 22:09.41 | Kraps | haha |
| 22:09.49 | nevcairiel | but if you generally know how the genre works, you can figure it out |
| 22:09.50 | Kraps | so thats in the game then |
| 22:10.03 | nevcairiel | it may have been a way of blizzard to troll us |
| 22:10.10 | Kraps | sure |
| 22:10.16 | nevcairiel | they practically said so at the Q&A panel |
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| 22:10.51 | Kraps | but with the thousands of new polygons everywhere theres no better time for it! |
| 22:11.19 | nevcairiel | i wish they really dont waste their development time on such shit :p |
| 22:12.19 | nevcairiel | not 100% sold on the whole garrison thing yet, wish it would've been account-wide or something, but the other things in the expansion at least sound great so far |
| 22:12.26 | nevcairiel | and yes, the new models do look awesome |
| 22:29.31 | foxlit | Hm, I still need to kill this Left+Right Mouse button=Mouse steering behavior somehow, but it seems hardcoded into whatever interprets worldframe input :/ |
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| 22:33.45 | sintAcks | |04:12:49 pm| [foxlit] "Sintacks: game just completley locks up" << this should not be called "crashing" |
| 22:33.51 | sintAcks | what's the difference between a crash and a lockup then |
| 22:34.03 | foxlit | Precisely that. |
| 22:34.12 | foxlit | In a crash, the program terminates by itself. |
| 22:34.28 | foxlit | In a lockup, it remains non-responsive until *you* terminate it. |
| 22:35.39 | foxlit | It's the difference between |
| 22:35.41 | Semlar | i wrote a script that canceled your mouse behavior to kill any input while you were feigning death but i don't remember what i did |
| 22:35.42 | foxlit | lua> repeat until t |
| 22:35.45 | foxlit | and |
| 22:35.47 | lua_bot | foxlit: Your code exceeded set CPU limits |
| 22:35.52 | Semlar | you could probably do the same thing to stop your mouse steerage |
| 22:35.55 | foxlit | lua> repeat until t[t] |
| 22:35.55 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: attempt to index global 't' (a nil value) |
| 22:36.20 | Semlar | like if you were holding right click it canceled that |
| 22:36.48 | foxlit | mouse look is about the only thing you *can* cancel. |
| 22:38.16 | Semlar | sadly it didn't matter, if you started turning with it before you hit FD you would still manage to cancel FD |
| 22:38.35 | Semlar | because unlike /sleep they decided you could still turn while feigned for some reason |
| 22:40.03 | foxlit | So, to sum up: I can't bind BUTTON1 because I have no way to trigger camera movement after I do that. |
| 22:40.45 | foxlit | I can't bind BUTTON2 because I can't replicate that targeting behaviour exactly. |
| 22:41.00 | Semlar | you're just trying to prevent autorun with both buttons held down? |
| 22:41.16 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 22:42.21 | Semlar | i don't suppose MouselookStop() actually cancels it |
| 22:42.48 | Semlar | i don't have time to check right now |
| 22:42.51 | foxlit | It does. |
| 22:43.10 | foxlit | But it leaves you in camera rotation, which isn't ideal. |
| 22:44.15 | Semlar | i don't even know what that view is called |
| 22:44.34 | Semlar | probably CameraOrSelectOrMoveStop which you can't actually call |
| 22:44.48 | Semlar | welp good luck! |
| 22:44.54 | Semlar | dinner time |
| 22:50.34 | sintAcks | I have to /run OpenAllBags() cuz i don't have bagnon on and bag buttons aren't shown in bartender... |
| 22:51.58 | Amarande | bartender should have a bag bar |
| 22:52.02 | sintAcks | it does |
| 22:52.05 | Amarande | there's even an option for One Bag :) |
| 22:52.08 | sintAcks | i have it disabled except for one bag |
| 22:52.17 | sintAcks | i normally have bagnon |
| 22:52.17 | Amarande | hrm, odd addon experience of the day |
| 22:52.23 | Amarande | why does Auctioneer think Strange Dust cannot be auctioned? |
| 22:52.24 | sintAcks | but i have pretty much everything off to see if i still lock up |
| 22:52.57 | Amarande | it lets me auction literally every other enchant mat, but strange dust acts like it's something you can't auction |
| 22:53.18 | sintAcks | is it auctioneer doing it, or can you really not auction it |
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| 22:53.39 | Amarande | there's plenty of strange dust on the AH, a scan even shows so |
| 22:53.51 | Amarande | but the "post items" button is greyed out and the tooltip advice says "unknown this item" |
| 22:53.53 | sintAcks | maybe yours is duped |
| 22:54.19 | Amarande | huh. pretty sure this was all DE'd from stuff I crafted *blink* |
| 22:54.25 | Amarande | let's check the manual interface |
| 22:54.50 | sintAcks | i was able to post one just now that i bought from the vendor |
| 22:54.56 | sintAcks | without auctioneer |
| 22:55.28 | Amarande | hm. does auctioneer refuse you to post it too? |
| 22:55.34 | sintAcks | checking |
| 22:56.11 | sintAcks | i was able to |
| 22:56.46 | Amarande | yeah, I can post it manually, but Appraiser won't work |
| 22:57.18 | Amarande | the bit on the right says "no auctionable items" as well |
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| 23:17.40 | Amarande | hmmm ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_buildings_in_the_world |
| 23:17.55 | Amarande | soooo ... how long before Blizzcon will need to move to that Hanover Fairground :) |
| 23:18.32 | Amarande | or maybe even the O2 :) |
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| 23:25.03 | Primer | I made the mistake of not checking to see if I needed to be a specific level before trying to zone into Halls of Lightning after taking the Elixir of Ancient Knowledge then turning in 25 completed quests at 70, which took me to 73 |
| 23:25.23 | Primer | Now I'm down to 48 minutes on the buff, and the mobs around Ulduar aren't yielding any XP |
| 23:25.54 | Primer | even if I kill them myself (73 prot warrior in all BoAs vs. level 78-79 mobs) |
| 23:26.29 | Primer | My plan was to zone into HoL with a 90 and have the 90 kill everything in the instance over and over until I stopped getting XP or the buff ran out |
| 23:27.19 | Primer | but one can't get into HoL even at 74. I'm doing this with 2 toons, my son's now-74 XP, who also had 25 completed quests but started at 71 |
| 23:27.47 | Primer | so we went to HoS instead. He can get into HoS at 74, but at 73 my warrior can't |
| 23:27.54 | Amarande | Huh. Red mobs give 0 XP? |
| 23:28.04 | Amarande | that sounds like a bug *blink* |
| 23:28.04 | Primer | That's the part I don't get |
| 23:28.10 | Primer | I wonder if it's these specific mobs |
| 23:28.24 | Amarande | I've heard of LOTRO nerfing XP at higher than orange, but not WoW |
| 23:28.46 | Amarande | and even in LOTRO, if they do nerf XP it seems more of that there's a cap (possibly orange) above which mobs aren't worth any more XP for higher level differences |
| 23:29.05 | Amarande | (I fought a lot of red mobs on my Warden there) |
| 23:29.22 | Primer | I had planned this pretty well. I had a guildy here in Storm Peaks to help summon at the HoL/HoS stone |
| 23:29.34 | Primer | but then I wasn't able to zone in |
| 23:29.43 | Primer | the buff doesn't keep going when you log out |
| 23:29.57 | Primer | so at least the clock isn't ticking |
| 23:30.08 | Primer | but I think I need to find another instance and summon to there |
| 23:30.19 | Primer | get to 74, then come back here |
| 23:31.02 | Primer | Anyone remember what the instance progression was before HoS/HoL? |
| 23:31.51 | foxlit | zul'drak. |
| 23:32.07 | Primer | ok |
| 23:32.24 | foxlit | or that other troll place. |
| 23:32.50 | foxlit | gundrak, actually. Drak'Tharon Keep before that. |
| 23:32.54 | Amarande | 70-72 UK, 71-73 Nexus, 72-74 Azjol-Nerub, 73-75 Ahn'kahet, 74-76 Zul-Drak, 75-77 VH, 76-78 Gundrak, 77-79 HoS |
| 23:33.19 | Primer | yeah, I've got this page up now: http://www.wowwiki.com/Instances_by_level |
| 23:33.23 | Amarande | er, wait, yeah, 74-76 is DTK :) |
| 23:33.29 | Amarande | Zul'Drak is a zone, not an instance *facepalm* |
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| 23:34.04 | foxlit | and both of the interesting instances are in that zone :) |
| 23:34.11 | Primer | Gundrak is the instance |
| 23:34.17 | Amarande | ah well, time for you to go back to Sholazar, Zul'Drak, or Grizzly :) |
| 23:34.21 | Primer | in Zul'Drak |
| 23:34.41 | Primer | No, I'm doing this in instances |
| 23:35.05 | Amarande | and hey, there are suckier level ranges to get caught in |
| 23:35.11 | Primer | I'm going to do this: go there with a 90, zone in, log out, have the 90 pull everything to the front, log in, 90 kills all, repeat |
| 23:35.15 | Amarande | 18-19, I think, is the most annoying to get stuck at out-of-progression |
| 23:35.40 | foxlit | heh, the lengths people go to to avoid playing the game. |
| 23:35.55 | Amarande | foxlit: heh, the 18-19 trap is pretty easy to wind up in |
| 23:35.55 | Primer | 300% XP is too good to waste :) |
| 23:36.12 | Primer | please, lower levels go so quickly when you're in BoAs |
| 23:36.16 | Amarande | just stick around your starting zone too long, then have a few days where you don't have much time to play but you make the mistake of doing your cooking and fishing dailies and a few quests in the second zone ... |
| 23:36.41 | Primer | Nowadays it's hard to keep collection professions on par with the zone you're in because you level so quickly |
| 23:36.44 | Amarande | next thing, you're level 18 and you've made hardly any progress in your second zone |
| 23:36.55 | Amarande | and the quests there have gone grey |
| 23:37.03 | Amarande | but there are no zones that start at 15 :| |
| 23:37.12 | Primer | I had to backtrack a bunch of times, or just stay in the zone and mine/skin to make sure I didn't pass it by |
| 23:37.27 | Amarande | so either you just suck it up and take a long trip to the WC (fitting name, that, when it's something you're not so interested in doing at the time) |
| 23:37.44 | Amarande | or you have to do a bunch of grey quests to catch up, or wait a few days of doing cooking and fishing dailies again till you hit 20 :) |
| 23:37.50 | Semlar-Laptop | i completely ignore professions until the level cap |
| 23:38.04 | Primer | no idea wtf you're talking about |
| 23:38.15 | Primer | Have you leveled a toon recently? |
| 23:38.21 | Primer | It takes no time |
| 23:38.25 | Amarande | Primer: yeah I'm leveling an orc monk these days |
| 23:38.37 | Amarande | got through Durotar and I was already like level ... 12-13 or so when I finished it I think? |
| 23:38.45 | Amarande | then started Azshara, and also started doing cooking and fishing dailies |
| 23:39.02 | Amarande | but I didn't have much time to play, and thus I kept getting more rested xp, and also a fair amount of xp from the cooking and fishing dailies |
| 23:39.08 | Amarande | and then next thing the Azshara quests start to go grey because I'm hitting 18 |
| 23:39.21 | Amarande | ... and like I said, that sucks because there's no 15-20 zones, all the zones at that level range are *10*-20 |
| 23:39.25 | Primer | I started this warrior to play with my son, who insisted on leveling a new toon. He still enjoys that. |
| 23:39.46 | Amarande | so there's no way to get fresh even green quests at 18 if you didn't progress far enough into the teens zones, you'd have to do a buttload of grey to catch up |
| 23:40.44 | Primer | heh, I'm the only person in this zone |
| 23:41.07 | Primer | oh, why are you harping on gray quests? |
| 23:41.10 | Amarande | thankfully that's the only such rut, because AFAIK there are no other level ranges (except 1-10 which goes like a flash) where the zones all have such a large level range |
| 23:41.17 | Primer | I don't even bother doing green ones |
| 23:41.24 | Primer | I just move on to the next zone |
| 23:41.36 | Amarande | Primer: at 18 you can't move on to the next zone yet, you have to struggle through to 20 first |
| 23:41.48 | Primer | is that because it's a monk? |
| 23:42.01 | Primer | Kinda like how worgen can't get out until a certain level? |
| 23:42.16 | Amarande | nope, monks use the same starting zones as other classes |
| 23:42.26 | Amarande | if you're not a panda, it's just like being any other class for that race |
| 23:42.27 | Primer | no they don't |
| 23:42.51 | Amarande | it was more that because of my play time pattern at those levels, I hadn't progressed enough in the 10-20 zones by then, so I had no access to decent-XP quests apart from the cooking and fishing daily |
| 23:43.16 | foxlit | Amarande is the champion of experiencing problems that nobody else has. |
| 23:43.23 | Amarande | heh |
| 23:43.23 | Sintacks | i should cook |
| 23:43.26 | Sintacks | but i don't wanna |
| 23:43.34 | Amarande | lesson learned: once you start a character, make a priority of reaching 20 |
| 23:43.54 | Amarande | if you cannot, let them sit around 10 till you have plenty of time to do a session to get them to 20 |
| 23:44.53 | Amarande | Primer: ultimately, it's mostly because of how enforced the quest chaining is now. outland is really the only continent where it is not the case |
| 23:45.15 | Amarande | used to be you could cherry-pick the higher level quests from zones if the first few were green, except for a few specific chains |
| 23:45.25 | Amarande | now EVERY zone is one huge chain, so you have to start at the beginning no matter what |
| 23:46.11 | Amarande | it's actually the same with SW:TOR, but SW:TOR's leveling curve doesn't let you get off the rails quite so badly |
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| 23:46.22 | harl | how do people jump over the broken part of the bridge at the end of firewalker's path while they're mounted? |
| 23:46.38 | Semlar-Laptop | legendary cloak |
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