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| 00:52.33 | _fobos_ | Hello |
| 00:58.45 | _fobos_ | Anyone there that could possibly help me with a question regarding lua? |
| 00:59.08 | kd3 | ask away. if someone knows the answer they'll respond |
| 00:59.58 | Dagmar | Don't waste questions. You only get three and then your soul is ours for the taking. |
| 01:00.13 | _fobos_ | Eek |
| 01:00.27 | _fobos_ | Alright well let me try not to waste it then. |
| 01:01.03 | _fobos_ | I want to know if in 'wow-lua' it's possible to load a text file to grab data from. |
| 01:01.21 | _fobos_ | to then use within the addon |
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| 01:01.47 | kd3 | not directly. addons' only access to the outside world is via SavedVariables |
| 01:02.08 | kd3 | http://wowpedia.org/Saving_variables_between_game_sessions |
| 01:02.20 | kd3 | there's no direct io |
| 01:02.24 | xyphoid | can you hook into battle.net chat remotely yet? |
| 01:02.38 | xyphoid | now that you have phone clients and stuff? |
| 01:02.51 | kd3 | not afaik. doubt it fairly strongly |
| 01:03.05 | _fobos_ | Thanks a lot, that's actually all I really wanted to know |
| 01:03.37 | _fobos_ | Oh 1 more question |
| 01:04.21 | _fobos_ | If I were to update the lua file outside of WoW by means of an external program could I reload the lua file on demand in the addon? |
| 01:04.40 | kd3 | only by reloading the ui (/console reloadui) |
| 01:04.55 | _fobos_ | Ah, I see |
| 01:05.12 | _fobos_ | Well that's a bummer! |
| 01:05.18 | _fobos_ | Thanks a lot :) |
| 01:05.24 | kd3 | np |
| 01:11.59 | Semlar | so wowhead strips the word "second" out of your search |
| 01:12.43 | Semlar | trying to look up the quest "a second hand" just resulted in everything containing the word "hand" |
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| 01:23.59 | xyphoid | 'first' is also in their stopword list |
| 01:24.00 | xyphoid | weird |
| 01:24.37 | xyphoid | so i guess they added 'one two three four five' etc and then also added 'first second third fourth' etc? |
| 01:25.06 | xyphoid | oh no, 'fourth' is okay, it's just 'first second third' |
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| 01:31.39 | Semlar | >_> |
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| 01:43.05 | Syllios | Can someone briefly explain aFrame:SetUserPlaced()? I'd like to use this thing, don't feel like implementing my own |
| 01:48.52 | kd3 | http://wowpedia.org/API_Frame_SetUserPlaced |
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| 02:19.46 | pompy | http://dcist.com/2013/10/mysterious_bearded_man_tries_to_mow_1.php |
| 02:24.47 | kd3 | ... seriously? a ms installer calls something a "Catastrophic failure"? |
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| 02:26.47 | kd3 | http://i.imgur.com/CZF6IcM.png |
| 02:27.05 | kd3 | er, grr, virtualbox. take a ss of what's actually there, not a minute ago |
| 02:28.53 | kd3 | http://i.imgur.com/DPvWWOH.png |
| 02:31.29 | pompy | kd3: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/vstudio/en-US/57e30c3e-edff-464b-9087-a065c92ad112/hotfix-for-windows-kb2664825-catastrophic-failure-installing-vs-2012?forum=vssetup |
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| 03:04.46 | Syllios | Ok I can't seem to have these damned frames' position persist throughout logout... |
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| 03:09.24 | Syllios | Would anyone please elaborate on this: http://wowpedia.org/API_Frame_SetUserPlaced which I was referred to earlier but was basically useless since i had already previewed that. |
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| 03:13.26 | Aeger73 | I think setuser placed just flags it for saving to the local config.wtf |
| 03:16.25 | Iriel | Right |
| 03:17.22 | Aeger73 | are you trying to set a chat fram position or save a state? Thats what I was running into when I learned that |
| 03:17.25 | Syllios | Yeah I got that part, what I don't understand is how exactly it works since it says I don't have to explicitly call the method and the StartMoving() method does. So when the interface is reloaded (at player login), how would I obtain it? |
| 03:17.27 | Aeger73 | *Frame |
| 03:17.44 | Iriel | You call the method once |
| 03:17.50 | Syllios | I'm just trying to maintain an icon position on screen, a fairly simple taks |
| 03:17.51 | Iriel | and then when you log out the frame location is saved |
| 03:17.57 | Iriel | and then when you log back in, it's retained. |
| 03:18.02 | Syllios | task* |
| 03:18.31 | Aeger73 | the state is saved on logout |
| 03:18.48 | Aeger73 | a reload ui wont save it If I remember correctly |
| 03:18.54 | Syllios | So on player login should I recreate the frame? "CreateFrame" with the same name? or get global(frameName)? or what? |
| 03:18.59 | Iriel | I'd be surprised if it didn't |
| 03:19.14 | Aeger73 | It wasnt for the chat frame |
| 03:19.21 | Iriel | Yes, you have to make sure the frame with the same name is created before the UI loading is finished |
| 03:20.16 | Aeger73 | Listen to Iriel I'm a noob :) |
| 03:20.42 | Iriel | I actually dont remember how it handles frames that are created "later" |
| 03:20.51 | Iriel | I dont think it does tho |
| 03:20.59 | Aeger73 | My experiance with that was frustrating because I had to reload the UI twice to get a lock to save |
| 03:21.03 | kd3|hate`net | posits 'poorly' |
| 03:21.26 | Aeger73 | I ended up using FCF_SavePositionAndDimensions(ChatFrame1) but that wont help you much Syllios |
| 03:21.58 | Syllios | Yeah it's been frustrating me all freaking day. I'm trying to save the position and it just won't... |
| 03:21.58 | Fisker | yawn |
| 03:22.01 | Fisker | i r tired kd3 |
| 03:22.32 | Iriel | I think if you have complex dynamic frames you're best off saving it yourself in saved favriables |
| 03:25.27 | Aeger73 | Have you tried just logging out without a reload? |
| 03:25.45 | Aeger73 | I could be totally wrong but thats how I remember it but that was like 3 weeks ago |
| 03:26.41 | Syllios | give me a sec i think i see a problem here |
| 03:29.19 | pompy | Fisker: did you get it to clear up more space? |
| 03:29.27 | Fisker | 30MB |
| 03:29.34 | Fisker | amazionary |
| 03:30.03 | Fisker | Well that was with like 30 updates more |
| 03:30.09 | Fisker | The wizard did say 700MB |
| 03:31.27 | pompy | https://www.facebook.com/ApSci/posts/10151915325405605 |
| 03:32.01 | Fisker | I guess compression is just too good to make a big difference |
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| 03:35.39 | pompy | yeah true Fisker |
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| 03:37.04 | pompy | is that why the size numbers for steam games are different all over the place? hm ... the dialog for civ5 b4 i installed said it was 6600mb ... when it was installing the steam client said it was dlding 4.3gb .. when it was all done, the civ5 folder was 6.08gb . :o |
| 03:38.04 | Fisker | I think the box is just a manual number entered |
| 03:38.08 | Fisker | 4.3 is compressed |
| 03:38.13 | Fisker | 6.08 is uncompressed |
| 04:00.16 | Syllios | I'm about to slap this thing |
| 04:00.33 | Corrodias | that makes sense |
| 04:00.49 | Syllios | eff it ill just implement the damn code before I waste more time |
| 04:00.59 | Corrodias | re: the sizes, not the slapping |
| 04:01.01 | Corrodias | the slapping is silly |
| 04:01.35 | Syllios | I will not hesitate >:/ |
| 04:01.44 | Syllios | *does* |
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| 04:13.18 | DarkOne | hey |
| 04:13.53 | DarkOne | I'm going through the addon tutorial and print("Hello World!"); doesn't work |
| 04:14.06 | Iriel | Do you have ChatFrame1 hidden? |
| 04:15.15 | DarkOne | i see my chat frames in-game |
| 04:18.24 | DarkOne | just working on a small Hello World tutorial that simply prints "Hello world!" to chat |
| 04:20.45 | Iriel | The other possibility is that you dont have lua errors enabled and it's throwing some kind of exception |
| 04:23.04 | DarkOne | i followed the tutorial exact |
| 04:25.31 | DarkOne | Here's the tutorial http://wowpedia.org/AddOn_programming_introduction |
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| 04:37.10 | DarkOne | SendChatMessage("Hey", "CHANNEL", nil, general); doesn't even work |
| 04:40.21 | Iriel | Instead of general you need the channel NUMBER of general |
| 04:41.07 | DarkOne | ok |
| 04:41.31 | DarkOne | still doesn't work |
| 04:43.20 | DarkOne | maybe its just broken |
| 04:44.03 | Iriel | Does /run print("Hello") |
| 04:44.06 | Iriel | work? |
| 04:44.39 | DarkOne | yes, but not in the addon |
| 04:45.16 | kd3 | open up your wow folder, then open up Logs/FrameXML.log and see if there are any mentions of your addon |
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| 04:47.57 | DarkOne | 10/10 23:47:40.224 Error loading Interface\AddOns\HelloWorld\HelloWorld.lua |
| 04:47.57 | DarkOne | 10/10 23:47:40.224 Couldn't open Interface\AddOns\HelloWorld\HelloWorld.xml |
| 04:48.02 | DarkOne | no idea why |
| 04:48.17 | DarkOne | i don't have them open in any programs |
| 04:48.42 | kd3 | what program are you using to edit those files? |
| 04:48.50 | DarkOne | notepad |
| 04:49.49 | kd3 | k. double-check to make sure they're not read-only or something similar, then completely exit wow and restart it |
| 04:50.19 | DarkOne | none are read only |
| 04:50.47 | Iriel | Make sure they're not HelloWorld.lua.txt on the filesystem too |
| 04:51.27 | DarkOne | HelloWorld.lua and HelloWorld.xml |
| 04:51.38 | DarkOne | no .txt on the end |
| 04:51.48 | kd3 | do you have show file extensions on? |
| 04:52.05 | DarkOne | yea |
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| 04:54.33 | DarkOne | opps, had HellowWorld.lua not HelloWorld.lua. same on the xml |
| 04:55.11 | DarkOne | extra w in the filename |
| 04:59.35 | DarkOne | is it possible to take existing addons like Recount, Omen, or Razer Naga and use my custom addon to mod them (like layout and stuff) |
| 04:59.37 | DarkOne | ? |
| 04:59.49 | Iriel | Generally yes |
| 05:00.27 | Iriel | Whether you can redistribute the result may vary, depending on how much of the actual addon you have to modify directly (if any) and the addon license terms. |
| 05:00.34 | Iriel | But to begin with for your own use you can do whatever you want |
| 05:01.09 | DarkOne | Basically they'll download omen, recount, and razer naga. then my addon would mod them to for things like layout without me needing to code those addons into my addon |
| 05:02.35 | DarkOne | I won't import those addons into my addon. just use my addon to modify their layouts |
| 05:03.07 | Iriel | For the most part that'll probably work -- it's /possible/ you'd run into challenges if the addons create their layouts in a hard-to-modify way, |
| 05:04.18 | DarkOne | basically i want to have my addon place nice UI graphics on the screen then move existing addons for the user to certain spots and lock them in place. |
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| 05:59.32 | Cairenn | Are ya done yet? |
| 05:59.39 | Cairenn | pokes Torhal |
| 06:00.17 | Torhal | Cairenn: For now. :D Could you pwetty pwease move _NPCScan.Overlay to the Map (or whatever is closest) category? |
| 06:01.38 | Cairenn | link? |
| 06:02.06 | Torhal | Cairenn: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info14686-_NPCScan.Overlay.html |
| 06:02.33 | Cairenn | moved :) |
| 06:02.45 | Torhal | Sorry for the deluge; I went to update one and realized I hadn't done all of the others |
| 06:02.57 | Cairenn | No worries, I was just bugging at ya. :) |
| 06:03.00 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 06:03.18 | Fisker | hugs at Cairenn |
| 06:03.24 | Cairenn | smoogles Fisker |
| 06:03.54 | Fisker | I... don't know what that is O_o |
| 06:04.05 | Cairenn | It's a hug |
| 06:04.13 | Fisker | oh |
| 06:04.21 | Fisker | Well that's good then |
| 06:04.27 | Fisker | Google couldn't help me out |
| 06:04.30 | Xuerian | Sounds like one of those cheek-heavy hugs you give puppies |
| 06:04.34 | Cairenn | Just a silly way of saying it, doesn't really mean anything |
| 06:04.37 | Fisker | :D |
| 06:04.40 | Cairenn | Xuerian: yeah :) |
| 06:04.52 | Cairenn | some say it's a combination smooch & snuggle & .... |
| 06:05.00 | Fisker | ahem |
| 06:05.01 | Cairenn | there are other similar expressions |
| 06:05.03 | Fisker | :D |
| 06:05.12 | Torhal | Like wedgie? |
| 06:05.14 | Torhal | Oh, wait. |
| 06:05.17 | Cairenn | no :p |
| 06:06.17 | Cairenn | If you wanna get flossed, Torhal, go find someone else, that's not my thing. :p |
| 06:06.36 | Cairenn | Hey Xuerian? What size t-shirt? |
| 06:07.02 | Xuerian | Uh. Xlarge? I haven't checked in a while.. |
| 06:07.07 | Cairenn | Okay |
| 06:07.16 | Fisker | hugwedgies Torhal |
| 06:07.23 | Fisker | however that works |
| 06:08.20 | Torhal | I'm pretty sure it doesn't, actually. |
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| 06:25.44 | bluspacecow | .... |
| 06:26.22 | bluspacecow | wibble |
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| 06:49.04 | Semlar | wibble? |
| 06:49.25 | Iriel | wibble! |
| 06:49.43 | Semlar | i see.. |
| 06:50.59 | Fisker | zomg |
| 06:51.04 | Fisker | they're selling maple syrup here |
| 06:51.11 | Semlar | canada? |
| 06:51.16 | Fisker | Our government failed us |
| 06:51.20 | Fisker | no, the canada of europe |
| 06:51.28 | Semlar | s..sweden? |
| 06:51.38 | Iriel | Failed you because it's allowed, or because it's not free? |
| 06:51.42 | Fisker | cute but no Semlar |
| 06:51.48 | Fisker | Denmark |
| 06:51.50 | Fisker | Because it's allowed Iriel :P |
| 06:54.15 | Iriel | Maybe it's allowed so you can remind yourselves why you're happy in Denmark? |
| 06:54.28 | Fisker | :o |
| 06:59.43 | Maldivia | hmm, two D3 beta patches last night |
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| 07:01.10 | Fisker | I'm sure there should be some kind of show regarding someone who is just bored and starts a maple syrup cartel Iriel |
| 07:02.05 | Iriel | Give it a Danish twist, "Maple Leiff" |
| 07:03.17 | Semlar | maple leif ericson? |
| 07:05.37 | Semlar | oh man leif erikson day was TWO DAYS AGO |
| 07:06.02 | Semlar | or yesterday depending on where you live |
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| 09:32.12 | zenzio | "2 out of 3 Russian websites use Nginx as web server" - interesting |
| 09:58.23 | karl_w_w | lol zenzio that stat is way off |
| 09:58.32 | karl_w_w | there are more than 3 russian websites |
| 09:58.55 | zenzio | hehe; I thought the same when I read it, but I decided on a verbatim copy. Should've put a [sic] in there |
| 09:59.06 | zenzio | W3Techs is perhaps my second favorite Twitter account |
| 09:59.18 | zenzio | after Realtime World War Two |
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| 10:04.00 | p3lim | Gah, worst part of any design: making icons |
| 10:04.22 | p3lim | Firing up illustrator >_> |
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| 10:11.26 | harl | wuff wuff |
| 10:13.19 | zenzio | p3lim: when you're making stuff for yourself or for clients? |
| 10:13.22 | zenzio | ohai harl |
| 10:14.24 | stuf | oisko nyt nustyle-perjantai |
| 10:14.28 | stuf | oops, wrong chan :c |
| 10:14.43 | zenzio | happens to everyone |
| 10:14.51 | zenzio | wrong window can be more amusing |
| 10:14.57 | zenzio | the typical "ps aux" |
| 10:15.51 | stuf | haha yeah |
| 10:16.51 | stuf | i was confused for the longest time when i used weechat, since i've gotten used to irssi having a shared input in all windows |
| 10:17.26 | stuf | and then instead of just switching to a query window, i'd just whack tab and type away, and accidentally have those messages go somewhere else |
| 10:18.01 | harl | indeed |
| 10:43.56 | p3lim | zenzio: myself, playing around with php and stuff, making a blog with CMS from scratch :) |
| 10:44.08 | zenzio | aha; neat =) |
| 10:44.30 | p3lim | Tried wordpress, didn't like it |
| 10:44.31 | zenzio | making stuff for clients always sucks. They never know what they want until you make something they don't ant |
| 10:44.34 | zenzio | *want |
| 10:44.38 | p3lim | Made a mess out of my databases |
| 10:45.20 | zenzio | I don't like Wordpress in general, but as soon as I had to code anything for it I developed a very strong distaste for it |
| 10:45.26 | p3lim | I'm thinking about using the same style I've used before though, like for my pastebin: http://paste.p3lim.net/px7406 |
| 10:45.56 | p3lim | I like playing with alpha and a single color :p |
| 10:47.12 | p3lim | Even managed to misspell "thar", great.. |
| 10:47.31 | zenzio | lol |
| 10:47.42 | zenzio | I like that color scheme |
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| 10:49.11 | p3lim | https://github.com/chriskempson/tomorrow-theme |
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| 10:51.35 | p3lim | I prefer to do small projects that implements a text editor, so I use that theme right there to easily differenciate between the browser and my client editor (I get mixed up easily :p) |
| 10:51.55 | zenzio | :) |
| 11:16.38 | karl_w_w | fuckkk |
| 11:17.07 | karl_w_w | cut my thumb on probably the worst non-rusty thing in the world to cut yourself on |
| 11:19.11 | Humbedooh | paper? |
| 11:19.23 | Humbedooh | or a thumb cutting device? |
| 11:20.09 | karl_w_w | the cutting edge of a baking paper box |
| 11:20.18 | Humbedooh | oh noes D: |
| 11:43.28 | Neffi | how do people wake up at this time? |
| 11:43.48 | Neffi | i feel like it's the fucking twilight zone. humans weren't meant to wake up at sunup. |
| 11:43.51 | bluspacecow | ninja cat in the butt |
| 11:44.32 | bluspacecow | crouching tiger , hidden claw in the ass |
| 11:44.42 | Neffi | wtf bluspacecow |
| 11:45.05 | bluspacecow | *raises whiskey glass* |
| 11:45.18 | Neffi | i'll have some of that sir |
| 11:45.18 | bluspacecow | hi ho a deary o popeye |
| 11:45.27 | bluspacecow | *pours* |
| 11:45.40 | Neffi | yeah i should definitely crack open one of these bottles of scotch |
| 11:45.50 | Neffi | i dont think my father will ever drink them |
| 11:59.45 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/GMBaG.jpg |
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| 12:25.21 | zenzio | Neffi: looks about right |
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| 12:30.13 | airtonix | sigh |
| 12:30.18 | airtonix | tomorrow people is crap |
| 12:31.01 | zenzio | I think you may have used one too many words there |
| 12:31.19 | karl_w_w | "The Tomorrow People is a British children's science fiction television series" |
| 12:31.23 | karl_w_w | yeah, it sounds crap |
| 12:31.39 | zenzio | oh, I thought you just meant people |
| 12:31.43 | airtonix | "Doctor Who is a British children's science fiction television series" |
| 12:32.06 | airtonix | karl_w_w hates doctor who |
| 12:32.12 | karl_w_w | people crap today as well, zenzio |
| 12:32.22 | zenzio | indeed |
| 12:32.58 | karl_w_w | "Hitler is a British children's science fiction television series" |
| 12:33.23 | airtonix | "Your Mum is a British children's science fiction television series" |
| 12:35.02 | zenzio | your mama's so fat she can't fit in one season |
| 12:37.52 | airtonix | something something something your mothers darkside |
| 12:42.18 | Neffi | I could've told you Tomorrow People would suck |
| 12:42.58 | karl_w_w | don't do that, just tell us what's good! |
| 12:43.11 | karl_w_w | why do you want to keep us in the dark? |
| 12:43.21 | Neffi | Dr Who's good. You should watch it. |
| 12:44.57 | Maldivia | regard the tomorrow people... they should considering coming up with new ideas... instead of reusing old tv-shows, that's already been redone once already |
| 12:47.33 | airtonix | i guess it's hard to expect people to create something as amazing as game of thrones |
| 12:48.14 | Neffi | then you expect the next season to suck, eh? |
| 12:48.35 | airtonix | i hope they dont fuck up man in the high castle |
| 12:49.02 | airtonix | why would i expect season 4 to suck? |
| 12:50.04 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/TJbeWKb.gif wtf |
| 12:50.52 | Ressy | sidecar? |
| 12:55.12 | zenzio | "bitch-wagon" |
| 12:59.12 | airtonix | ninja runner |
| 12:59.29 | airtonix | he actually accelerated after jumping off |
| 12:59.53 | Neffi | nobody cares that he stole a sheep off the truck? |
| 12:59.57 | airtonix | no |
| 13:00.03 | airtonix | happens all the time |
| 13:00.21 | Neffi | where the fuck do you live, New Zealand? |
| 13:00.22 | bluspacecow | mans gotta eat |
| 13:00.26 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 13:00.29 | bluspacecow | how. |
| 13:00.30 | bluspacecow | did. |
| 13:00.31 | bluspacecow | you. |
| 13:00.33 | bluspacecow | know. |
| 13:00.38 | airtonix | herpaderpa |
| 13:00.40 | Neffi | lol |
| 13:00.56 | airtonix | that gif is not from new zealand |
| 13:01.03 | airtonix | want to know how i know? |
| 13:01.09 | bluspacecow | hmmmmmm |
| 13:01.10 | airtonix | ok i'll tell you |
| 13:01.19 | bluspacecow | *folds hands in anticipation* |
| 13:01.22 | airtonix | first clue was the lack of earth quakes |
| 13:01.23 | Neffi | waits. |
| 13:01.41 | airtonix | in new zealand, roads just bust up beneath you |
| 13:01.53 | airtonix | like the fresh prince of belair |
| 13:02.12 | bluspacecow | yeah we get around by vaguely pointing at places and being exploded there |
| 13:02.24 | Neffi | heh |
| 13:02.45 | airtonix | http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK1308/S00527/extra-patrols-after-earthquakes.aspx.php.html.perl |
| 13:03.13 | bluspacecow | 404 :( |
| 13:03.21 | airtonix | hehe |
| 13:03.32 | Neffi | >_> |
| 13:03.43 | airtonix | http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK1308/S00527/extra-patrols-after-earthquakes.html |
| 13:03.45 | bluspacecow | use stuff |
| 13:04.13 | airtonix | oh lol these people still use htm |
| 13:04.16 | airtonix | http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK1308/S00527/extra-patrols-after-earthquakes.htm |
| 13:04.47 | bluspacecow | gaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
| 13:05.03 | bluspacecow | that's from august |
| 13:05.18 | airtonix | anyway, my mum was in new zealan last year up in the north, said she came across many road maintenance crews doing earthquake road assements |
| 13:07.07 | karl_w_w | and to do these assesments they did not drive on the right |
| 13:07.24 | karl_w_w | did I win bluspacecow? |
| 13:07.35 | bluspacecow | i dunno |
| 13:07.53 | airtonix | if there is an attractive sheep on the right you drive on the right |
| 13:08.08 | bluspacecow | lulz |
| 13:08.48 | karl_w_w | stop with the psychological projection airtonix |
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| 13:09.49 | Neffi | wtf man |
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| 13:10.07 | Neffi | you Australian Lites are weird people |
| 13:10.31 | airtonix | Neffi: we can talk about goats if thats more to your liking? |
| 13:11.40 | airtonix | http://goatloversanonymous.blogspot.com.au/ < totally g rated |
| 13:11.44 | Neffi | >_> |
| 13:11.52 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x_UB7ZXo_I top comment lol |
| 13:12.03 | Neffi | wtf |
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| 13:34.56 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/8uWM5.jpg about right on that one, Colbert |
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| 13:54.04 | karl_w_w | Colbert is right about many things |
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| 14:00.43 | Lopeppeppy | Fraggletastic monkey servers who like to take long weekends. Grrrr. |
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| 14:08.32 | foxlit | Dimensions, not file size. |
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| 14:11.27 | nibordoohe | :( |
| 14:11.57 | foxlit | What that is suggesting is unsupported in big red capital letters. |
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| 14:13.06 | foxlit | For what it's worth, the 1024kB figure is irrelevant; it's simply a consequence of having 512x512 pixels at 4 bpp. |
| 14:13.40 | foxlit | no, I mean replacing images by creating your own mpq files. |
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| 14:18.52 | jleclanche | nibordoohe: that hasn't worked in a long time |
| 14:19.05 | nibordoohe | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:19.19 | jleclanche | nibordoohe: the glue screen is not modifiable outside the mpqs |
| 14:19.32 | nibordoohe | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:19.38 | jleclanche | yeah in like vanilla |
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| 14:20.17 | jleclanche | well a couple years ago modifying mpqs from the filesystem still worked |
| 14:20.20 | jleclanche | but not the gluescreen |
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| 14:35.01 | airtonix | no |
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| 14:35.47 | airtonix | don't have a deficit of hope. |
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| 14:43.48 | Arrow|tablet | Who else loves being paid to do nothing and browse the net |
| 14:44.38 | airtonix | said no one ever |
| 14:45.43 | Arrow|tablet | It is actually a bit boring |
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| 14:50.33 | Ackis | http://www.flickr.com/photos/klinkekula/8138303185/ |
| 14:54.06 | nibordoohe | wants that for his new loading screen |
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| 15:13.12 | karl_w_w | lol i managed to make a murloc deck in arena |
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| 16:09.19 | nicoli_s | 0 wins on my arena deck :( in the last game i forgot the game started when i tabbed over it was the 4th turn and the enemy had like 7 minions |
| 16:19.58 | Unkle | oops? |
| 16:24.43 | Ackis | http://mashable.com/2013/10/09/kitten-in-walker/ <-- nicoli_s watch out for onions |
| 16:28.22 | nicoli_s | aww |
| 16:32.19 | nicoli_s | i love disabled kitties |
| 16:32.34 | nicoli_s | i had 2 myself, 1 with a missing leg, 1 with an auto immune disorder, he passed :( |
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| 16:36.56 | Shirik | I hate all kittens equally |
| 16:37.02 | Hazal | WHAT!? |
| 16:37.05 | Hazal | You hate kittens? |
| 16:37.07 | Shirik | dogs > cats |
| 16:37.19 | nicoli_s | dogs are great but thats not a reason to hate kitties |
| 16:37.53 | nicoli_s | i have 3 dogs and 3 cats at my house atm, full house |
| 16:37.58 | Shirik | kittens are evil |
| 16:38.10 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbycvPwr1Wg |
| 16:38.22 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, you are a blasphemer. |
| 16:41.21 | nicoli_s | agreed |
| 16:41.57 | Lopeppeppy | I shall love you no matter your religious beliefs on fuzzy friends, but gosh you make it hard sometimes. :P |
| 16:49.42 | Neffi_ | Well you're right on one account; cats are evil |
| 16:49.54 | Neffi_ | And when they finally take over the world, it's gonna be you dog people that suffer |
| 16:50.24 | Neffi_ | You've gotta love them for their evil cuddliness, or you will pay for your insolence |
| 16:53.16 | Unkle | One of the cats awoke me at 3:30 this morning because he needed cuddles. AT 3:30AM. |
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| 16:54.59 | Maldivia | sounds like a cat |
| 16:55.21 | nicoli_s | id take that over 2 dogs deciding 4 am was a good time to howl |
| 16:55.37 | Unkle | Oh yeah. He almost became slippers, but I relented and scratched his ears before falling back to sleep. |
| 16:56.19 | Lopeppeppy | Corbin could not STAND that I shut him out when I went to pee at o'god AM. He threw himself at the door until he popped it open. Waking the boyfriend, and pissing me off in the process. |
| 16:57.16 | nicoli_s | im so glad i trained my kitties to leave us alone while we sleep |
| 16:57.26 | nicoli_s | took lots and lots of days of kitty no no spraying under the door |
| 16:57.29 | Unkle | Cats, not just a job, they're an adventure! |
| 16:57.35 | Lopeppeppy | They mostly do - but when they don't... oh gods. They don't. |
| 16:58.33 | Shirik | "An Ohio man recognized as legally dead since 1994 will continue to be considered dead after he lost his case to overturn his death filing." |
| 16:58.36 | Shirik | what |
| 16:59.12 | Lopeppeppy | Because if he's declared alive his widow has to repay 20 years of death benefits. And he gets no penalties for being "dead". |
| 16:59.56 | nicoli_s | do you have to pay taxes if you are dead? |
| 17:00.02 | nicoli_s | and can you get a job if dead? |
| 17:00.36 | Lopeppeppy | He's been doing something somewhere - but if he's been in mexico or something, taxes are not a US concern. |
| 17:01.51 | Lopeppeppy | He wants to be "not dead" so he can have his SSN back and start working again. |
| 17:01.53 | Neffi_ | http://i.imgur.com/yf5Oq0F.gif how could you not love that unconditionally? |
| 17:02.29 | Shirik | why would I love that at all |
| 17:03.18 | Neffi_ | because they're so beautifully evil and awesome |
| 17:03.35 | Neffi_ | they come from a line of the best hunters in the world, and they're still incredibly affectionate |
| 17:05.05 | Unkle | And because they've evolved a symbiotic relationship with a bacterium that manipulates your brain into liking them or being less afraid of them (if you're a prey species). |
| 17:05.58 | Neffi | Danny Carey is so fucking talented |
| 17:13.38 | Shirik | I must be immune to this bacterium Unkle |
| 17:19.51 | Unkle | Shirik: Doubtful. But you may not have had enough exposure. |
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| 17:22.08 | Ackis | nicoli_s: wife and I added a headboard with a shelf to our bed, our asshole cats have decided that it's where they want to sleep and use us as spring boards |
| 17:24.48 | Neffi | Anyone familiar with HexChat? |
| 17:24.54 | Lopeppeppy | Headboards are just launch pads for night time assaults, Ackis. I won't get one, even though The Boyfriend wants one. |
| 17:25.05 | Neffi | How would I go about adding a new slash command, like /id to auto-identify with nickserv |
| 17:25.59 | Lopeppeppy | There's a spot for commands in my chat client, Neffi - it does my auto-joining and my identifying. Is there an area like that in your chat client? |
| 17:26.13 | Neffi | It does auto-identify |
| 17:26.39 | Neffi | but if my connection drops and I haven't timed out when auto-reconnecting, it connects as Neffi_, doesn't identify, then I need to manually identify when I change my nick back |
| 17:26.54 | Neffi | I'd also like to set it up to auto-ghost so I don't even have to change my nick back |
| 17:30.52 | Ackis | nicoli_s: holy shit, RL pokemon R sexay! |
| 17:31.01 | Ackis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKu-XW209U0#t=15 |
| 17:36.44 | Dagmar | neffi: Bind it to ON_CONNECT |
| 17:36.56 | Mr_Rabies | ON_KINECT |
| 17:38.42 | Dagmar | Sounds like hexchat is binding things to the nick change |
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| 17:58.16 | Neffi | It auto-identifies on the initial connection to the server only |
| 17:58.44 | Neffi | because my old name is already taken by the lingering dead connection, it connects as a different name. it tries to auto-connect, but that name isnt registered |
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| 18:01.08 | Fisker | https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/388704538258964481 hehe |
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| 18:18.21 | Mr_Rabies | can't you link nicks somehow neffi |
| 18:18.33 | Mr_Rabies | i forget if freenode supports that |
| 18:19.14 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 18:19.29 | Mr_Rabies | /msg NickServ help group, neffi |
| 18:20.38 | Mr_Rabies | so you're fixing the problem from the server side, not the client side |
| 18:21.27 | TC-Work | Anyone know which of python or php has faster sql calls? |
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| 18:30.07 | Haakkon | Huh, is there any kind of event fired when an item is changed by getting enchanted? |
| 18:30.39 | Primer | Haakkon: how's that addon coming? |
| 18:30.58 | Haakkon | Pretty good http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/quick-look |
| 18:32.07 | Haakkon | Need to make it update when an item gets enchanted though |
| 18:32.11 | Primer | Haakkon: Does it show missing profession encants/tinkers/etc? |
| 18:32.20 | Haakkon | Yup |
| 18:32.57 | Primer | Awesome! I'm installing this now |
| 18:33.02 | Primer | And I love you |
| 18:33.14 | Haakkon | haha |
| 18:35.53 | Neffi | Hakkon: You could try tracing all events, and enchanting something to see what fires |
| 18:36.02 | Neffi | Might want to do that outisde of a city though |
| 18:36.23 | Primer | What are the color codes supposed to mean? |
| 18:36.25 | Primer | For the item levels |
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| 18:43.19 | Haakkon | They are relative to your average ilvl |
| 18:43.42 | Haakkon | standard wow colors Best -> Worst, Orange>Purple>Blue>Green>White>Gray |
| 18:44.13 | Haakkon | Good idea Neffi |
| 18:52.08 | Primer | Haakkon: you should add x/2 to show item upgrades too, IMO |
| 18:52.22 | Primer | err it doesn't work when you inspect people... |
| 18:52.28 | Primer | You need to add that too |
| 18:54.14 | Unkle | Wow. Welcome back to GearScore. |
| 18:54.29 | Primer | Eh? |
| 18:54.48 | Primer | You tell me you don't inspect people? |
| 18:55.02 | Primer | I just don't want to have to hover over every piece of gear to get a feel for how bad they are |
| 18:57.09 | Neffi | ungeared = bad? |
| 18:57.09 | Primer | I just want to know if a pug is missing several gems and enchants |
| 18:57.37 | Primer | I don't even look at the item level, as long as it's fully gemmed and enchanted |
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| 19:01.35 | Neffi | http://raytracey.blogspot.com/2013/10/sooner.html |
| 19:01.43 | Neffi | Brigade is shaping up really, really nicely |
| 19:02.02 | Neffi | I've even come to sort of like the grain |
| 19:02.35 | Neffi | the depth of field looks very organic |
| 19:07.31 | Neffi | Sam Lapere says the materials engine is gonna be on par with Octane Render's when they're finished, which is pretty impressive for a real-time renderer |
| 19:07.49 | Neffi | I can't wait to see this technology driving games on mid-range computers |
| 19:07.50 | VIad | Neffi: looks like crap lens filter effects emulating old photos - but I know it's computer generated, it's awesome ;) |
| 19:08.15 | Neffi | His colleague seems to be putting a lot of effort into that aspect |
| 19:08.22 | Neffi | Here's that guys page: http://icelaglace.com/projects/brigade-3-0/ |
| 19:08.43 | VIad | it makes the image look more real, if you are outside you usually see sunlight make lensflares and such, so it's good :P |
| 19:09.02 | Neffi | I wonder how accurately done that is |
| 19:09.05 | VIad | it's funny how real it looks in the screenshots |
| 19:09.19 | Neffi | Whether they actually model the path tracing through a lens, physically |
| 19:09.24 | Neffi | Or if they do it with a filter |
| 19:09.42 | Neffi | I hope it's being done by modeling a lens. Seems like that's how they'd want to do it |
| 19:09.58 | VIad | GTA6 |
| 19:10.02 | VIad | that engine |
| 19:10.16 | VIad | nuff said |
| 19:10.17 | Neffi | Somebody made that comment on his blog |
| 19:10.22 | VIad | hehe |
| 19:10.27 | Neffi | I'd more like to see TES VI tbh |
| 19:10.36 | Neffi | Not likely, knowing Bethesda |
| 19:10.38 | VIad | sadly next TES is MMO right? :( |
| 19:10.43 | Neffi | no, that's TESO |
| 19:10.47 | Neffi | It's a spinoff |
| 19:10.49 | VIad | aha |
| 19:10.52 | VIad | not made by bethesda? |
| 19:10.56 | Neffi | Sort of |
| 19:11.03 | Neffi | They spun off a sister company specifically for ESO |
| 19:11.07 | Neffi | Zenimax Online |
| 19:11.13 | VIad | :P |
| 19:11.18 | Neffi | Some of Bethesda's talent, plus some outside talent brought in |
| 19:11.23 | VIad | thats what they do to not make their name dirty if the product sucks |
| 19:11.25 | Neffi | Bethesda's overseeing creative direction |
| 19:11.50 | Neffi | Nah, they're still thoroughly branding it as a Bethesda title |
| 19:11.54 | VIad | aha :P |
| 19:11.55 | Neffi | In fact Bethesda's logo comes first |
| 19:12.10 | Neffi | I think they more did it to allow the MMO team to be more self-reliant |
| 19:12.18 | VIad | mmo skyrim |
| 19:12.19 | Neffi | Or appear that way |
| 19:12.25 | VIad | thought makes me shiver a bit |
| 19:12.26 | Neffi | That's what the feeling is right now |
| 19:12.49 | VIad | not sure how the awesome SP RPG can be made into a MMO and be equally fun to play |
| 19:12.50 | Neffi | That it feels very much like Skyrim, but with enough of an improvement in the combat system and especially fluidity to make it awesome |
| 19:13.00 | Neffi | It's been compared to the improvement from Oblivion to Skyrim |
| 19:13.52 | Neffi | They're sticking closely to the TES philosophy of gameplay. No cookie cutter, no grindiness. Questing and exploration should feel like a single player game. They're even taking steps to ensure it has a strong element of distraction that Skyrim has |
| 19:13.59 | Neffi | "Oohhh, what's this?" |
| 19:14.16 | VIad | monthly or one time payment like GW? |
| 19:14.23 | Neffi | Same model as WoW |
| 19:14.26 | VIad | hmm |
| 19:14.32 | Neffi | Buy game (and possibly expacs) + $15 a month |
| 19:14.35 | VIad | unsure how they can supply fresh content without making it feel copy paste |
| 19:14.40 | Neffi | + store for vanity items only |
| 19:14.48 | Neffi | They've got a decently large team |
| 19:14.49 | VIad | and without making it feel pointless too |
| 19:14.59 | VIad | swtor had that too but it didnt keep my interests :( |
| 19:15.09 | Neffi | The in-game world is ALL of Tamriel. Significantly bigger than any TES game yet. And reactions say its crafted with a lot more love than previous TES games. |
| 19:15.12 | VIad | just too boring to get into, tried many times to get back into it |
| 19:15.15 | Neffi | That the world design feels impeccable |
| 19:15.21 | VIad | I hope for the best |
| 19:15.36 | VIad | plan for the crappiest game I've ever played - thats when I get pleasantly surprised :D |
| 19:15.51 | VIad | and not so disappointed if it doesn't meet my expectations |
| 19:15.56 | Neffi | They've got some of the richest lore to tap into. Lots of stuff to explore. Lots of content to bring to the table. |
| 19:16.08 | Neffi | And tons of land to incrementally unlock in both patches and expacs |
| 19:16.08 | VIad | skyrim is famous for modding too |
| 19:16.12 | VIad | how does that work with MMO? |
| 19:16.20 | Neffi | It will follow a WoWish model of bringing regular content with patches -- every 6 weeks rougholy |
| 19:16.23 | VIad | elder scrolls and modding go hand in hand |
| 19:16.30 | Neffi | Well it'll be UI mods only |
| 19:16.32 | Neffi | Using Lua |
| 19:16.37 | VIad | hmm, lua |
| 19:16.38 | VIad | xml? |
| 19:16.41 | Neffi | not sure |
| 19:16.44 | VIad | swf? |
| 19:16.52 | Neffi | TES single player games are sandboxed, so modding works well |
| 19:17.01 | Neffi | You can't sandbox an MMO |
| 19:17.08 | VIad | you want compiled swf scripts I know it |
| 19:17.19 | Neffi | We haven't heard any details on the UI side except that it (the UI) CAN be modded with Lua |
| 19:17.29 | Neffi | I want straight Lua |
| 19:17.31 | Neffi | Fuck the rest |
| 19:17.33 | TC-Work | Unlike WoW, they may allow for personal 3D element mods. |
| 19:17.48 | Neffi | They've said they won't allow any content mods, no |
| 19:17.57 | TC-Work | Well, wow at a certain point |
| 19:18.09 | Neffi | Problem with giving people some content mods is that it's hard to limit hackability |
| 19:18.26 | Neffi | I mean, what's to stop you from crafting a mod to make important resource nods stand out? |
| 19:18.29 | Neffi | nodes* |
| 19:18.39 | VIad | fuck those books |
| 19:18.45 | VIad | make the skill once shine so I dont have to click them all |
| 19:18.51 | VIad | gotamodforthat |
| 19:18.58 | Neffi | Unread Books Glow |
| 19:18.59 | Neffi | =) |
| 19:19.09 | Neffi | I didn't get the impression that you can skillup from books |
| 19:19.16 | VIad | you can |
| 19:19.20 | Neffi | But there's shard-type things throughout the world that you can find by exploring |
| 19:19.21 | VIad | some provide skillpoints |
| 19:19.25 | Neffi | In Skyrim yes |
| 19:19.26 | Neffi | not in ESO |
| 19:19.28 | VIad | yes in skyrim |
| 19:19.32 | VIad | dont know shit about ESO |
| 19:19.40 | VIad | (in norway ESSO is a gas station btw) |
| 19:19.41 | Neffi | You'll need to explore Tamriel in ESO to learn all your skills |
| 19:19.43 | Neffi | which is cool |
| 19:20.05 | Neffi | I'm well versed in Skyrim, VIad =) |
| 19:20.12 | Neffi | I'm doing a total overhaul right now |
| 19:20.16 | VIad | I never doubted you |
| 19:20.41 | Neffi | I'm pretty much revamping every aspect of gameplay |
| 19:21.16 | VIad | you deserve a nerdal (nerd medal) |
| 19:21.22 | VIad | it's hard work |
| 19:21.44 | Neffi | I know it is |
| 19:22.00 | Neffi | I'm like 5% done just with drafting the ideas on paper |
| 19:22.27 | Haakkon | I'm not sure if I'll add the inspect pane |
| 19:22.32 | Neffi | Got the first rough draft of 3 perk trees done, and some other perk ideas down. Plus a lot of miscellanous ideas. |
| 19:22.51 | Haakkon | it's really meant for yourself as reminder |
| 19:22.52 | VIad | I hope reality doesn't catch up and make you put it on the shelf, then 10 years later you notice the papers in a box, and you cry about never finishing the project |
| 19:23.03 | Haakkon | and the inspect pane is wonky but maybe |
| 19:23.05 | Neffi | I'm even going to delevel the world, so each hold has separate level ranges, each dungeon/camp/etc has a level range, etc. You'll have to pgoress through the game. |
| 19:23.20 | Neffi | Oh no I definitely want to finish this project |
| 19:23.54 | Neffi | The most daunting task is I want to aggressively balance everything, through every level range |
| 19:24.02 | Lopeppeppy | There will be fewer of us in the new house, oh yes, there shall. |
| 19:24.07 | Neffi | I want it to be challenging all the way up to the level range |
| 19:24.18 | Neffi | level cap* |
| 19:25.24 | TC-Work | Lopeppeppy: It works better if no one knows you are killing people. |
| 19:25.25 | Neffi | This is what I've got jotted down right now http://pastebin.com/kVbj0Wkd |
| 19:25.43 | Neffi | Gives you a pretty small idea of the direction. This is all super early stage. |
| 19:25.49 | Lopeppeppy | I already know I can't collect bail money in advance. But seriously, Stupid CoWorker has to go. I am tired of bailing her out. |
| 19:26.01 | VIad | isn't bail jail related? |
| 19:26.02 | TC-Work | Lopeppeppy: Is this the new one? |
| 19:26.23 | VIad | does the US put people in jail for anything trivial or? :P |
| 19:26.31 | Lopeppeppy | No, New Guy is doing okay. Stupid Coworker has been here for 2 damn years. |
| 19:26.44 | Ackis | http://i.imgur.com/0HVFMdh.jpg |
| 19:27.00 | TC-Work | Define 'trivial' you can go to jail for being innocent. |
| 19:27.07 | VIad | you without coffee and coding PHP, Ackis? |
| 19:27.17 | VIad | innocent is trivial |
| 19:28.33 | Lopeppeppy | Trivia makes me innocent? |
| 19:29.15 | VIad | yes |
| 19:29.19 | VIad | wait no |
| 19:29.29 | VIad | maybe |
| 19:29.40 | tem | any idea why I wouldn't be able to click on chat links even without any addons enabled? |
| 19:29.58 | TC-Work | It's not a real link? |
| 19:30.13 | VIad | probably copy paste of a link ~= make a link |
| 19:32.09 | tem | no |
| 19:32.10 | tem | it's a real link |
| 19:32.19 | VIad | do /dump "click link" |
| 19:32.22 | tem | the problem was the chat frame wasn't interactive |
| 19:32.28 | VIad | :P |
| 19:32.30 | tem | which I didn't even know was an option |
| 19:32.42 | tem | and aparently it gets defaulted to on when you transfer a character |
| 19:33.16 | tem | I had assumed it was some dumb addon problem |
| 19:33.26 | tem | disabled all addons and nope still no work |
| 19:33.49 | Primer | Haakkon: just saying, the one oqueue adds does it for both |
| 19:34.02 | Primer | Haakkon: that would be my expectation as well |
| 19:36.00 | tem | I can't believe all of the random shit in oqueue |
| 19:36.10 | VIad | http://imgur.com/gallery/qsPAKVV lol |
| 19:38.42 | Primer | that's really the only feature I like |
| 19:38.43 | Ackis | VIad: aroo? |
| 19:38.58 | Primer | And IMO, Haakkon, your addon should replicate it fully :) |
| 19:39.06 | VIad | aroo? |
| 19:39.07 | Primer | so, please add that to inspect as well |
| 19:49.26 | VIad | http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/world-at-play/ivan-fernandez-anayas-kindness-reaffirms-faith-athletes-so |
| 20:04.12 | bleeter | Cairenn: http://imgur.com/gallery/7f1Ej |
| 20:04.42 | Cairenn | cute |
| 20:06.02 | Neffi | that rodent is way too large |
| 20:09.51 | Neffi | wtf http://www.tablespoon.com/recipes/bacon-cinnamon-rolls/c268a5e7-46af-4de1-9edf-d8e7996a4a60 |
| 20:14.35 | nicoli_s | is that a nutria? |
| 20:14.43 | nicoli_s | theres one of those that lives in a park near by my work |
| 20:15.35 | Neffi | it's called a capybara |
| 20:15.42 | Neffi | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capybara |
| 20:16.56 | airtonix | it's also a testing framework for that ugly web framework |
| 20:17.35 | airtonix | named as such due to the vacuous hole its users try to fill with their vanity |
| 20:17.47 | bleeter | Neffi: bacon cinnamon rolls or bacon cinnamon drools? |
| 20:18.37 | Neffi | Rails? |
| 20:21.01 | bleeter | Neffi: also, that's not a large rodent. Josephoartigasia Monesi is (ok, was) a large rodent (at the lower end of mass of a black rhino) |
| 20:21.32 | Neffi | >_> |
| 20:21.38 | Neffi | too large for my taste, mk |
| 20:21.47 | bleeter | at 5ft high, could probably have ridden them like a pony |
| 20:22.07 | airtonix | now ponies on the other hand |
| 20:22.18 | airtonix | creatures of glory |
| 20:22.34 | nicoli_s | the nutria in the park lives in the creek, its very beverish |
| 20:22.38 | airtonix | representing the absolute brilliance of the web framework born of genius |
| 20:22.51 | airtonix | absolute genius! |
| 20:22.51 | Neffi | wtf |
| 20:22.59 | airtonix | umadbro? |
| 20:23.07 | airtonix | dont hate the pony |
| 20:23.22 | Neffi | I have no idea what you said |
| 20:23.31 | Neffi | Not aware of this pony-based web framework |
| 20:23.35 | Neffi | Does it run on hay? |
| 20:23.37 | airtonix | http://www.mylittledjango.com/ |
| 20:23.43 | bleeter | nicoli_s: if you're anywhere that is not south america, kill the invader!!! |
| 20:23.59 | Neffi | lol? |
| 20:24.14 | Neffi | Also, do you guys like Django?> |
| 20:24.16 | kd3 | wth airtonix |
| 20:27.05 | nicoli_s | bleeter:i would but its crazy fast |
| 20:27.08 | nicoli_s | and also in a city park |
| 20:32.27 | foxlit | psst, anyone have a screenshot of their fancy UI? |
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| 20:33.44 | foxlit | http://wowpedia.org/AddOn kind of needs pictures. Your addon/ui could be illustrating what addons are... clearly an awesome advertising opportunity right there. |
| 20:34.21 | Neffi | i can't find the images I've uploaded to imgur |
| 20:34.24 | Neffi | only gallery submissions |
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| 20:38.07 | Neffi | Canadians: thank you for Rush |
| 20:38.16 | airtonix | why? |
| 20:38.20 | Neffi | why not? |
| 20:38.28 | airtonix | no really. why? |
| 20:38.42 | Neffi | dat drumming and bass |
| 20:38.47 | Neffi | Neil Peart is amazing |
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| 21:03.29 | bleeter | they're all rather gifted musos, more so than composers but still... |
| 21:04.06 | bleeter | any prick who can play a guitar one handed whilst singing and playing keyboards and changing presets at the same time as doing alternate time signatures is OK in my book |
| 21:04.26 | Neffi | Neil Peart is a gifted composer |
| 21:05.09 | bleeter | that's a subjective thing. musical ability is easier to nail down objectively :P |
| 21:05.46 | Neffi | yeah, but it's my opinion |
| 21:05.52 | Neffi | so you should respect it =p |
| 21:06.32 | bleeter | Neffi: as I said last time, I'll only respect you in the morning when you give me more money :P |
| 21:06.50 | Neffi | maybe if you'd stop raising your price |
| 21:07.10 | bleeter | maybe if you stopped asking at 8AM before I'd had my second coffee |
| 21:07.30 | bleeter | also |
| 21:07.34 | Neffi | it's not my fault you need to stroll 4 blocks for a cup of Starbucks. MY COFFEE'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH? |
| 21:07.36 | bleeter | discounts only apply for Fisker |
| 21:07.45 | Neffi | of course they do, whore |
| 21:07.58 | Neffi | FISKER YOU STAY AWAY FROM MAH MAN |
| 21:08.05 | bleeter | think I have to go about 500km's for the nearest starbucks |
| 21:08.19 | bleeter | and that includes ~200km's underwater (what, you think I'd swim it?!) |
| 21:09.07 | Neffi | you had no problem swimming when that queen invited you to the pool |
| 21:09.27 | Neffi | i just can't take the cheating anymore |
| 21:09.41 | Neffi | just cause i pay you dont mean u aint mine |
| 21:17.26 | bleeter | only reason I wandered off with royalty is because pearl necklaces silly! |
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| 21:21.51 | TC-Work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eeAjkbNq4xI Steam controller demonstration |
| 21:22.01 | TC-Work | Has Civ V |
| 21:25.28 | bleeter | oh, canada! http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/air-canada-in-hot-water-over-lost-dog-dismissive-email-1.1991099 |
| 21:25.59 | bleeter | TC-Work: still no Poratl 2 beta for Linux tho grrrrrr |
| 21:27.41 | TC-Work | bleeter: I have no sympathy. |
| 21:30.41 | bleeter | TC-Work: naturally! |
| 21:30.59 | bleeter | can't help but think they're holding back P2 and something 'special' for the steamos launch |
| 21:31.20 | TC-Work | bleeter: I like linux, and I use it ~10 hours a day, but I do not have the need for it to have EVERYTHING. |
| 21:31.41 | TC-Work | If I need to game on windows, I game on windows. Big deal. |
| 21:31.47 | bleeter | TC-Work: for me it's just a PITA switching between native and Wine |
| 21:31.59 | bleeter | *native Steam |
| 21:32.07 | bleeter | I spose I could hack the native steam to... but meh |
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| 23:34.45 | Neffi | hmm |
| 23:35.06 | TC-Work | No, I refuse |
| 23:35.09 | Neffi | I was really unimpressed by the absolutely retarded airflow setup of the 800D, but some of Corsair's newer cases actually look really fucking nice |
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| 23:35.41 | Neffi | More aesthetically pleasing than Lian Li and on par with Fractal Design; better internal setup than both |
| 23:36.42 | TC-Work | I went with the Cooler Master HAF XM. It was the best I found for its size |
| 23:36.54 | TC-Work | SInce I wanted a Mid |
| 23:37.16 | Neffi | That's like everybody's go-to case, but I think it's damned ugly |
| 23:37.24 | Neffi | I like clean lines, clean finish, and understated design |
| 23:37.27 | TC-Work | It's not there to be looked at. |
| 23:37.41 | TC-Work | If you are looking at your case instead of your screen you are doing it wrong. |
| 23:37.48 | TC-Work | you're* |
| 23:37.49 | TC-Work | meh |
| 23:38.05 | Neffi | That's one way to put it |
| 23:38.29 | Neffi | I should put my computer on a milk carton |
| 23:38.36 | Neffi | And I should dress in rags |
| 23:39.11 | TC-Work | The first bit is silly and you know it. The second bit is valid. |
| 23:44.12 | Neffi | i want it =3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpoQqdeqnTo |
| 23:44.21 | fewyn | anyone want to tell me how to solo chess? |
| 23:44.46 | foxlit | random luck, mostly |
| 23:44.57 | foxlit | get the water elementals out on the field. |
| 23:45.09 | foxlit | move king out of fires. |
| 23:45.41 | kd3 | move 3-4 pawns in front of the king, kill the opposing healers with your water elementals, heal the king if he's getting low |
| 23:46.52 | foxlit | I think the order is something like: elemental pawn, elemental, king pawn, king out of fire, then do whatever with the wueen. |
| 23:53.28 | Fumler | Is that a bigtower Neffi? Looks fucking huge |
| 23:53.46 | Neffi | Huge? Look up the Corsair 900D |
| 23:53.54 | Neffi | that shit's crazy |
| 23:54.22 | Neffi | Ack. Ugly ass optical bay design on that http://techreport.com/r.x/corsair-350d/full-closeup.jpg |
| 23:54.27 | Neffi | Guess I don't want it |
| 23:54.37 | Fumler | Who needs optical bays |
| 23:54.47 | Neffi | Why would they tarnish such a beautiful case with such a flawed design? |
| 23:55.07 | TC-Work | They came out with 'super tower' chassis for no reason. |
| 23:55.12 | Neffi | If I'm gonna build a computer, I'm gonna have a BD drive for ripping and burning stuff |
| 23:55.31 | Neffi | Aye. No reason at all. Plenty of full towers out there fit XL ATX with ample room. |
| 23:55.38 | Neffi | Not to mention how crazy XL ATX is |
| 23:55.46 | TC-Work | ^ |
| 23:56.07 | Neffi | I think it's a show of good engineering and designership to be able to fit lots in a smaller case without it feeling cramped |
| 23:56.15 | Esamynn|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:56.15 | TC-Work | You can fit 4 full size cards on a standard ATX as it is, what more do you need? |
| 23:56.20 | Neffi | Unfortnately most cases are damn ugly, so it seems like you either go pretty or small |
| 23:56.56 | TC-Work | Although I guess you can't have 4 Full size cards, 2 chipsets, and 12 ram slots on a standard ATX. |
| 23:57.13 | Neffi | Esamynn|work: The recessed design and the fact that it's not full width. If you look at a picture of the unblemished front of the case, it has a very nice appeal with the straight, clean line all the way down. |
| 23:57.26 | Neffi | The optical bay interrupts that aesthetic and makes it look a lot less nice |
| 23:57.30 | Esamynn|work | ahh, I getcha |
| 23:58.18 | Neffi | But I really fucking line the straight black lines, the very clean window edge without horrible bolts or sharp glass edges showing, and the nice grill design on top |
| 23:58.30 | Neffi | Why are so many cases almost perfect? |
| 23:58.48 | Esamynn|work | why are you so obsessive? :P |
| 23:59.02 | Neffi | (that picture has grill removed, so it's ugly =/ ) |
| 23:59.33 | Neffi | I like pretty things. Besides, I want a good case and if I'm investing the money, it should meet high expectations. |
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