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| 03:04.41 | Mr_Rabies | argh |
| 03:04.46 | Mr_Rabies | i wish it was easier to calculate raw mats |
| 03:05.29 | Mr_Rabies | for example, for the sky golem i need 30 Jard's Peculiar Energy Source, and 30 Living Steel |
| 03:05.53 | Mr_Rabies | but 1 Peculiar Energy source is 10 Ghost Iron Bars, so 300 Bars total, easy enough |
| 03:06.30 | Ressy | http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/139192-sky-golem |
| 03:07.11 | Mr_Rabies | that's one possible way |
| 03:07.18 | Mr_Rabies | but only if i have spirits of harmony |
| 03:07.42 | Ressy | Otherwise, x2 trillium bars required |
| 03:08.24 | Mr_Rabies | if i don't, then it's 180 trillium bars, which are either 360 of each ore or 1800 ghost iron bars, right? |
| 03:08.30 | Mr_Rabies | see where this starts to get complicated :| |
| 03:09.33 | Ressy | TSM has a crafting module, and will break down ways to make stuff the cheapest |
| 03:09.38 | Mr_Rabies | it's kind of insane for wow to expect you to do that kind of math to make stuff |
| 03:09.50 | Mr_Rabies | i still uninstall TSM 5 minutes after installing it every time |
| 03:09.55 | Ressy | lol |
| 03:09.58 | Mr_Rabies | it's just...awful |
| 03:10.25 | Mr_Rabies | none of the UI design makes any sense from an aesthetic or utilitarian standpoint |
| 03:11.02 | Mr_Rabies | i used to use an addon called reverse engineer but it's long abandoned and i don't think there's a replacement |
| 03:11.06 | Mr_Rabies | plus even it is kinda janky |
| 03:11.28 | Mr_Rabies | ReverseEngineering |
| 03:12.03 | Mr_Rabies | professions need a serious overhaul |
| 03:12.31 | Mr_Rabies | they're needlessly complicated now and it's time for some change :( |
| 03:12.34 | xyphoid | i dunno, i like that kind of thing |
| 03:12.41 | xyphoid | i mean what are professions for, after all |
| 03:13.01 | Thunder_Child | A time sink |
| 03:13.12 | xyphoid | the more you streamline them the more they become 'insert 4000 gold here and take your +500 to a secondary stat' |
| 03:14.06 | xyphoid | i mean you *should* have to do research to make money off them |
| 03:14.34 | Mr_Rabies | i think it's bad for anything in the game to require leaving the game to learn |
| 03:15.32 | Mr_Rabies | they're just stupid complicated, i understand the sky golem is supposed to be a money sink, but i have to spend longer doing the math to figure out what mats to get than i do getting the gold for it |
| 03:15.46 | xyphoid | but you don't have to do that, you can just pick one option |
| 03:16.00 | xyphoid | if you want the game to pick the most optimal option for you that's just getting silly |
| 03:16.32 | Mr_Rabies | i think it's bad for there to 1) be so many options and 2) no way to calculate this ingame |
| 03:16.44 | Ressy | Thats why I like TSM_Crafting.. Figures out what's good to make, what's not. |
| 03:16.52 | Mr_Rabies | even with addons, there's like...1 that does what i want and i don't like it |
| 03:17.03 | Ressy | The new UI sucks. |
| 03:17.15 | Mr_Rabies | the old ui sucked too, so that's nothing new |
| 03:17.21 | Ressy | But, new stuff we asked for was added |
| 03:17.26 | Ressy | non-full stacks. |
| 03:17.50 | Ressy | If selling full stacks, you can set it up to also sell off the non-full stacks as well. finally. |
| 03:18.08 | Mr_Rabies | they're just stupidly complicated for no reason, a relic of the beta game that hasn't really changed much, other than getting more and more complicated with time |
| 03:18.31 | Mr_Rabies | make this->make this-> make this->make this-> get itam |
| 03:18.39 | Mr_Rabies | now do that once a day for 30 days |
| 03:20.53 | xyphoid | mastering systems is fun - if professions were just a button labelled 'click here to make a suitable item for you for 500 gold' they would be boring |
| 03:21.23 | Mr_Rabies | they're boring now |
| 03:21.31 | Mr_Rabies | they're just convoluted and time-wasting |
| 03:22.22 | Mr_Rabies | there's nothing fun with spending hours doing math that you can only hope isn't wrong at each tier to figure out how to make something |
| 03:22.31 | xyphoid | go to AH, buy item |
| 03:22.53 | Mr_Rabies | not enough on the AH, first of all |
| 03:23.12 | Mr_Rabies | second of all, gouging makes that wholly nonviable |
| 03:26.03 | Mr_Rabies | unfortunately with a dead server, there's not enough stuff on there to simply go to the AH and buy the highest level mats |
| 03:26.15 | Mr_Rabies | and if there are, they're so insanely overpriced that you'd be stupid to do so |
| 03:26.55 | xyphoid | i wish wow had buy orders |
| 03:27.02 | Mr_Rabies | indeed |
| 03:27.10 | xyphoid | after switching over to eve for my market games it would be so rough going back |
| 03:27.14 | Mr_Rabies | there's just no way to easily price out my options with materials |
| 03:28.09 | Mr_Rabies | i think it'd be easy enough to make with an addon, but only TSM does it so far that i know of and that's not really an option, but that would help fix that particular design flaw |
| 03:28.51 | xyphoid | i just don't think it's a design flaw - is nobody selling the final result? |
| 03:29.01 | xyphoid | sounds like a great way to make money |
| 03:29.35 | Mr_Rabies | i do, xyphoid |
| 03:29.43 | Mr_Rabies | that much math really shouldn't be necessary |
| 03:30.02 | Mr_Rabies | a single item shouldn't have like, 6+ tiers to make it, with multiple options at each tier |
| 03:30.06 | xyphoid | "do i have enough money to buy the final item" is all the math you need |
| 03:30.19 | xyphoid | everything else is optional |
| 03:30.32 | Mr_Rabies | unless the final item doesn't exist in the quantity you need |
| 03:30.50 | Mr_Rabies | or if the price is so insanely high because the economy is broken on a dead server |
| 03:31.30 | Mr_Rabies | it's bad design for the professions to be that complicated, most people just don't bother making items anymore |
| 03:32.05 | Mr_Rabies | they just get the stuff they need, enchants, flasks, etc, and most of that stuff isn't complicated to make |
| 03:32.24 | Mr_Rabies | it's bad design if people just don't use a huge portion of the game for anything other than its passive benefits |
| 03:34.03 | xyphoid | i'd be more upset about the 500 levels of each profession that are pointless due to infinite ilvl escalation than about complicated top-end recipes |
| 03:34.30 | Mr_Rabies | that's another gripe i have with professions, sure |
| 03:34.38 | Mr_Rabies | they need a massive overhaul |
| 03:34.53 | Mr_Rabies | they're obviously the most janky and outdated piece of the game left other than maybe character models |
| 03:35.24 | Mr_Rabies | thankfully entirely different departments handle those, so maybe we can see both fixed in my lifetime |
| 03:37.56 | Mr_Rabies | i think older gear should simply take common materials from that expansion's zones after the expansion is outdated, and older recipes should be a bit easier to obtain |
| 03:38.44 | Mr_Rabies | that doesn't really fix the issue of the profession interface being wholly inadequate for actually doing anything with the professions, but it at least fixes some of the issue with some older stuff never being made anymore despite being ripe for transmog material |
| 03:38.56 | Mr_Rabies | because the mats are a pain to get now |
| 03:40.03 | Mr_Rabies | i think gathering professions really shouldn't compete with crafting professions and everyone should have every gathering profession |
| 03:41.08 | Mr_Rabies | raw materials are difficult to obtain on my realm without me actually going out to get them often times |
| 03:41.28 | Mr_Rabies | and as a result, the higher-tier materials are gouged to heck because the materials at every tier prior are also gouged to heck |
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| 03:42.39 | Mr_Rabies | i realize that some of this theoretically might be fixed with connected realms, but the truth is people mostly just ignore professions now except for the stuff they gotta check off on a list to be raid ready |
| 03:43.00 | Mr_Rabies | and that's not cool, that shows that the design is now flawed |
| 03:43.00 | xyphoid | i just feel like that's an opportunity - i mean gouged prices mean that gathering is good money |
| 03:43.16 | Mr_Rabies | it's not though, really |
| 03:43.20 | Mr_Rabies | no one buys anything, either |
| 03:43.34 | Mr_Rabies | it's just a depressed economy because there's no supply or demand |
| 03:43.40 | xyphoid | one problem is that historically a lot of gathering was done by bots |
| 03:44.20 | Mr_Rabies | and yeah, this does lead to some parallels with illegal/foreign labor in the real world |
| 03:44.20 | xyphoid | i mean the glory days of inscription were basically fuelled by infinite 14g herb stacks |
| 03:46.05 | Mr_Rabies | that's another issue with professions |
| 03:46.34 | Mr_Rabies | they need to be fun for people to do them, or else they're going to be ignored/rely on bots to keep the economy rolling |
| 03:46.54 | Mr_Rabies | there are practically no bots on my realm anymore, because there's no money there other than maybe stolen accounts |
| 03:47.44 | Mr_Rabies | but yeah, i'm not about to go farm up 3600 ghost iron ore |
| 03:48.10 | iShirik | safely in Portland |
| 03:48.32 | Mr_Rabies | i just think that the interface and implementation of professions actively works against itself at this point, and blizzard seems to agree from what i've read |
| 03:48.37 | Mr_Rabies | but it's a tough nut to crack |
| 03:48.51 | Mr_Rabies | it's going to require as much, if not more effort, than rebuilding azeroth for cataclysm |
| 03:49.23 | xyphoid | because you have thousands of recipes that people have collected that they'd be pissed if you removed |
| 03:49.28 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 03:49.30 | Mr_Rabies | exactly |
| 03:49.46 | Mr_Rabies | you can't just remove them |
| 03:49.51 | Mr_Rabies | but at the same time |
| 03:50.04 | Mr_Rabies | the current interface makes finding some of them near impossible unless you know the exact name |
| 03:50.35 | xyphoid | should just hash recipe drop locations per-server |
| 03:51.18 | Mr_Rabies | like, i have all enchanting recipes except 10 |
| 03:51.55 | Mr_Rabies | if someone asks for +65 AP to weapon, i'm gonna spend a while trying to find that |
| 03:52.32 | xyphoid | haha you've still got all the vanilla spellpower vs healing power enchantments in existence |
| 03:54.21 | Mr_Rabies | yup :| |
| 03:54.54 | Mr_Rabies | i don't have the AQ spellpower ones |
| 03:55.12 | Mr_Rabies | there's a fire, frost, and shadow spell power one, one recipe for each element |
| 03:57.45 | Mr_Rabies | i think lower level mats should have a greatly increased drop rate across the board and/or older patterns should be simplified greatly |
| 04:02.27 | Mr_Rabies | i don't have a proper solution for everything, but i think simplifying the professions system and giving everyone every gathering profession would be a step in the right direction, plus allowing people to still level crafing professions while leveling their char somehow are some necessary changes that will likely come in the future |
| 04:04.36 | xyphoid | they are kind of boxed in with the expansion model |
| 04:05.03 | xyphoid | as long as each expansion is expected to come with 5-10 levels, new mats, and new tiers of crafting, life is weird |
| 04:06.48 | Dagmar | Fuck you I am not leveling all the gathering professions at once |
| 04:06.59 | Dagmar | You sadistic bastad |
| 04:07.09 | xyphoid | like you could have had instead new crafting slots and expansion-specific crafts so that you don't have the obvious pain they're having with well fuck how do we do another expansion's worth of inscription |
| 04:07.21 | xyphoid | i mean an intern can design a new expansion's worth of enchantment |
| 04:07.29 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, they've pretty much backed themselves into a corner |
| 04:07.38 | Dagmar | Yes, but I think you should probably just try publishing static ARP entries first |
| 04:07.41 | Dagmar | @#$@ wrong chan |
| 04:07.56 | Mr_Rabies | but there's not much they can do |
| 04:08.06 | xyphoid | but how fucking boring is it learning Enchant Chest: Really Kind of Good Spellpower |
| 04:08.22 | Mr_Rabies | expansions should have a significant power jump, i think it's good design to feel significantly stronger with each iteration of the game |
| 04:08.35 | xyphoid | oh come on like that has ever happened |
| 04:08.51 | xyphoid | we are fighting level 87 rabbit dudes |
| 04:09.54 | Mr_Rabies | it's good design to ensure every item is an upgrade every expansion, and upgrades are plentiful even with each tier |
| 04:10.04 | xyphoid | is it? |
| 04:10.11 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, it is |
| 04:10.18 | xyphoid | it causes so many knockon effects |
| 04:10.35 | Mr_Rabies | things get stale if your character stops progressing eventually |
| 04:11.04 | xyphoid | but infinite ilvl progression is not the only conceivable way you can advance |
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| 04:11.32 | Mr_Rabies | i've never said the power jump should necessarily come with items, but getting upgrades does feel good |
| 04:11.42 | Mr_Rabies | if you stop getting them, the game begins to feel stale |
| 04:11.56 | Mr_Rabies | they did make the jump right at the expansion less of a huge one |
| 04:12.17 | xyphoid | ever since the ilvl has been right on the item i've been pretty bored with gaining new items |
| 04:12.39 | Mr_Rabies | i used pieces of my heroic raiding gear all the way to level 90 in MoP |
| 04:12.50 | Mr_Rabies | heroic DS gear |
| 04:13.10 | Mr_Rabies | it actually felt pretty crappy to keep DEing all the new items i got |
| 04:13.22 | Mr_Rabies | because mine was actually better due to gem slots, etc |
| 04:13.29 | Mr_Rabies | set bonuses, etc |
| 04:13.41 | xyphoid | i mean if you want to fix sacred cows, the ilvl treadmill is something that i'd aim at |
| 04:13.55 | xyphoid | half your problems with crafting armor etc come from that |
| 04:14.59 | Mr_Rabies | agreed, but i don't think it's a problem, though it can cause problems with parts of the game that still exist before there were any planned expansions with no major changes other than quantity of mats required |
| 04:15.27 | Mr_Rabies | i think wow without progression and gear upgrades would see a significant subscription loss |
| 04:15.57 | xyphoid | well you have a significant subscription loss with gear progression so |
| 04:16.06 | Mr_Rabies | i don't think so |
| 04:16.40 | Mr_Rabies | i don't think gear progression being in the game really contributes any significant amount to the subscription loss |
| 04:18.16 | Mr_Rabies | i think removing professions entirely (including deleting all learned patterns)would cause considerably fewer losses than even lessening character progression via gear |
| 04:19.05 | xyphoid | you know what i miss, picking which dungeon you wanted to do based on what gear was there |
| 04:19.33 | Mr_Rabies | i did that a lot in MoP |
| 04:19.45 | Dagmar | Dude if they deleted all learned patterns people would go apeshit |
| 04:19.47 | Mr_Rabies | until i stopped really needing to run dungeons |
| 04:19.52 | Mr_Rabies | yes, they would Dagmar |
| 04:19.55 | Mr_Rabies | i'm not saying they should |
| 04:19.58 | Dagmar | Heads would fuckin' asplode |
| 04:20.11 | Dagmar | Blizzard devs would have to start sleeping with one eye open |
| 04:20.30 | Mr_Rabies | i'm just saying, the total subscription loss would be lower than that of significantly lowering the progression curve as xyphoid suggests |
| 04:20.52 | Mr_Rabies | people would be upset |
| 04:21.45 | xyphoid | i don't want to ditch progression, i just think you can have other progression options |
| 04:21.46 | Mr_Rabies | but i don't think it would even near the realm of total losses to making progression via gear a thing of the past |
| 04:21.54 | xyphoid | like imagine if you gain expansion-specific progress |
| 04:22.14 | xyphoid | emerald dream expansion? emerald dream gear! |
| 04:22.26 | Mr_Rabies | you pretty much do, that's what gear is, with tiers throughout |
| 04:22.53 | xyphoid | i mean emerald dream gear being good in the emerald dream and bad in pandaria |
| 04:23.03 | xyphoid | learn to fight particular opponents! |
| 04:23.09 | Mr_Rabies | i'd probably not play if i had to return to that model |
| 04:23.13 | Mr_Rabies | remember resistance fights? |
| 04:23.26 | Mr_Rabies | that's basically what you're asking for |
| 04:23.50 | Mr_Rabies | hey guys let's farm maraudon for endless hours getting nature resist gear so we have even a remote chance in AQ |
| 04:24.19 | xyphoid | well duh you make the gear for the expansion drop from the expansion |
| 04:24.34 | xyphoid | getting shadow resist gear from BT to use in BT was fine |
| 04:24.37 | Mr_Rabies | well i mean |
| 04:24.49 | Mr_Rabies | cataclysm gear sucks in pandaria |
| 04:24.56 | Mr_Rabies | so...that's pretty much in game already |
| 04:25.00 | xyphoid | mauradon was only bad because you were doing old content |
| 04:25.16 | Mr_Rabies | no, it was bad because i was doing the same content over and over |
| 04:26.19 | Mr_Rabies | i actually like maraudon because i took a break during AQ because of the resistance fights in mc/bwl |
| 04:26.25 | Mr_Rabies | i saw that i needed new resist gear and just stopped raiding for a tier |
| 04:26.35 | Mr_Rabies | new resist gear for gear that was basically a sidegrade to the gear i already had |
| 04:26.56 | xyphoid | basically i think more specialist sidegrade gear is good |
| 04:27.00 | Mr_Rabies | i don't |
| 04:27.05 | Mr_Rabies | it's bland |
| 04:27.08 | xyphoid | because the alternative of MORE ILVLS FOREVER is so boring |
| 04:27.33 | xyphoid | especially now that gear is all itemized via calculator with the correct stamina budget |
| 04:27.35 | Mr_Rabies | more ilvls gives you a moving target, but a steady target you can catch up to if you don't play constantly |
| 04:27.46 | Mr_Rabies | i actually love how simple itemization is now |
| 04:27.48 | xyphoid | make characters broader, not higher |
| 04:28.11 | Mr_Rabies | and how almost everything is budgeted properly |
| 04:28.23 | Mr_Rabies | i got hit entirely too much with the short end of the stick with item budget back in the day |
| 04:28.47 | Mr_Rabies | oh cool thanks guys i'm a cat druid i totally need freakin' spirit |
| 04:29.14 | Mr_Rabies | meanwhile, if i could actually equip the rogue gear i'd be tearing stuff up |
| 04:29.40 | Mr_Rabies | "there's properly itemized gear out there for me, but i just can't use it. great!" |
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| 04:31.11 | Mr_Rabies | i like that all the excess ratings and junk are out the window and replaced with a stripped down system |
| 04:31.33 | Mr_Rabies | where items are simply a product of their item level and have a budget |
| 04:32.11 | Mr_Rabies | i'd actually like for hit and expertise to be removed to further simplify things, but that's mostly just a pipe dream |
| 04:32.31 | Mr_Rabies | or changed to do different things at cap so you're not penalized for going over cap |
| 04:33.21 | Mr_Rabies | i still think they're sorta boring stats though since most classes are "stack this until you're maxed out on your ability to not whiff on your abilities then totally ignore it" |
| 04:34.06 | Mr_Rabies | so unless you're leveling, you're pretty much always at hit/exp cap and thus the stat is just throwing more interesting stats out the window |
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| 04:39.48 | bluspacecow | http://www.smosh.com/smosh-pit/links/duct-tape-ducktales-theme-parody |
| 04:41.21 | Mr_Rabies | okay |
| 04:41.31 | Mr_Rabies | i thought it was kind of dumb until the crook was dressed up like a beagle boy |
| 04:41.34 | Mr_Rabies | then it was amazing |
| 04:42.41 | Mr_Rabies | i think i like this more though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmpAx8Z5z40 NSFW? I guess? I don't even know anymore |
| 04:42.44 | Fisker | you crashed my chrome bluspacecow |
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| 04:42.57 | Fisker | You will reget the day you met me |
| 04:43.00 | bluspacecow | how about http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=zZGNk8pUj4Y |
| 04:43.08 | bluspacecow | I can so see Fisker doing that at work |
| 04:43.39 | Fisker | you can see the human legs :( |
| 04:43.53 | Fisker | I use tape though |
| 04:45.22 | Fisker | have you started regretting yet bluspacecow ? |
| 04:45.30 | bluspacecow | nope |
| 04:45.37 | bluspacecow | zero fucks given |
| 04:45.39 | Mr_Rabies | jungle pocket saito |
| 04:45.45 | Mr_Rabies | what D: |
| 04:45.56 | Mr_Rabies | those words don't make sense together, japan |
| 04:46.15 | bluspacecow | jungle wa ? |
| 04:46.15 | Fisker | alright |
| 04:46.23 | Fisker | you will regret that when you go to work today bluspacecow |
| 04:46.43 | Mr_Rabies | i think they're calling the victim there "jungle pocket saito" bluspacecow |
| 04:46.54 | Mr_Rabies | that or i'm really bad at japanese still (i am) |
| 04:47.01 | bluspacecow | good thing i'm not due at work till Friday |
| 04:47.48 | Mr_Rabies | is your job to supply milk to the moisture farmers of tatooine |
| 04:48.15 | Fisker | well all the more time for me to fuck you up bluspacecow |
| 04:48.54 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:49.06 | Fisker | :) |
| 04:49.29 | Fisker | hugs bluspacecow and puts a "kick me" on his back with a piece of tape |
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| 04:49.50 | bluspacecow | *alters kick me with fondle me* |
| 04:50.19 | Fisker | fondles bluspacecow |
| 04:50.25 | bluspacecow | :3 |
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| 04:53.00 | Fisker | morning Thomas :3 |
| 05:15.35 | tharper | morning Fisker |
| 05:15.45 | tharper | i.e. Thomas |
| 05:25.05 | Fisker | :D |
| 05:26.12 | Mr_Rabies | this is about fisker, i think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aSaGN2qd0U |
| 05:26.13 | Fisker | got a busy day today :o |
| 05:26.53 | Fisker | had a lot of mail notifications before the weekend |
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| 06:19.16 | jnwhiteh | I may be 100% confusing you with someone else |
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| 07:18.43 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh: you probably are :) |
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| 07:34.01 | Fisker | only guy at work that knows shit = only girl at a party :( |
| 07:40.29 | nevcairiel | i know the feeling, so many days when you dont get shit done because there literally is a line waiting to talk to you |
| 07:41.03 | Kalroth | ya |
| 07:41.10 | Kalroth | lines up for Fisker |
| 07:43.29 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/QgJUL.gif <-me |
| 07:43.44 | Fisker | They dragged me into a meeting when i got here |
| 07:43.46 | nevcairiel | sausage fest? |
| 07:43.49 | Fisker | well |
| 07:44.00 | Fisker | all the people that want stuff of me :( |
| 07:44.14 | Fisker | been like 6 things i have to do, preferably before today sofar |
| 07:44.37 | bluspacecow | ! |
| 07:44.44 | bluspacecow | i knew fisker was a girl! |
| 07:44.56 | Kalroth | he sure cries like one |
| 07:44.57 | Fisker | you wish |
| 07:45.03 | Fisker | ooh burn |
| 07:45.06 | nevcairiel | i dont think bluspacecow cares |
| 07:45.07 | Kalroth | :D |
| 07:45.18 | nevcairiel | he can plug you no matter what |
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| 07:46.02 | bluspacecow | :3 |
| 07:46.16 | Fisker | he can't dp me with his weird two-pronged member though |
| 07:46.19 | Neffi | No spoilers please. I forgot to watch. |
| 07:46.31 | Kalroth | Fisker: where there's a will there's a way |
| 07:46.46 | Kalroth | http://i.imgur.com/LyjEm48.jpg |
| 07:47.15 | Fisker | pretty inappropriate Neffi |
| 07:47.18 | Fisker | >:3 |
| 07:47.26 | Neffi | >_> |
| 08:12.18 | Kalroth | hey Fisker, you busy? |
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| 08:29.24 | Fisker | kinda Kalroth ? |
| 08:37.55 | Fisker | I can get here a bit spotty if you want Kalroth but only looking once in a while |
| 09:03.45 | Kalroth | okay |
| 09:03.57 | Kalroth | i just asked if you were busy, i didnt want a life story |
| 09:10.29 | airtonix | incoming life story |
| 09:10.45 | airtonix | some random youtuber: "I got the willies so hard..." |
| 09:28.26 | Neffi | http://imgur.com/gallery/elQWm lol |
| 09:28.40 | Neffi | Radiohead spoof for you weirdos who have no idea what it means |
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| 09:33.36 | Fisker | fuck you Kalroth :( |
| 09:37.40 | Kalroth | :D |
| 09:38.06 | Fisker | :P |
| 09:38.18 | Fisker | so much shit gone wrong |
| 09:40.09 | Kalroth | it's a true Monday |
| 09:40.16 | Kalroth | is it raining at your location too? |
| 09:50.39 | Fisker | not really |
| 09:50.41 | Fisker | it was earlier |
| 09:51.00 | nevcairiel | its raining here =/ |
| 09:52.26 | Fisker | cool |
| 09:52.34 | Fisker | an isp here is letting us mix/match download and upload |
| 09:52.53 | Fisker | i.e. we apparently get like "50 Mbits" |
| 09:53.06 | Fisker | and we can assign them as we wish |
| 10:00.28 | nevcairiel | seems like a odd thing to do |
| 10:01.32 | airtonix | unfortunately australia is going to be stuck with 25mps until 2030 |
| 10:02.13 | nevcairiel | ands thats the connection for the whole continent |
| 10:03.37 | airtonix | well with the people in charge of "communications" you might just be right |
| 10:04.04 | airtonix | "silly peasants don't need internet!! lol all they need is church on sunday" |
| 10:04.13 | zenzio | my ISP says the net in my area has been tested successfully to 200 Mbit... but the highest they offer is 120; and at a too high cost |
| 10:04.59 | zenzio | but I don't even know if I'd "need" more than the 30 Mbit I do now; it does fine for streaming, and I'm usually not in a rush to get things down in 1 minute |
| 10:05.30 | airtonix | http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/525840/his_own_words_tony_abbott_nbn/ |
| 10:06.51 | karl_w_w | what a cunt |
| 10:07.25 | airtonix | isn't that just the kind of guy rupert wants though? |
| 10:07.42 | Fisker | yeah it's odd nevcairiel |
| 10:08.07 | Fisker | But i would prefer being able to set my own speeds over 50/5 :P |
| 10:08.14 | Fisker | but depends on the pricing i guess |
| 10:08.40 | airtonix | http://bc.whirlpool.net.au/ |
| 10:16.09 | zenzio | Fisker: true enough |
| 10:17.04 | zenzio | I pay ~€8 extra every month to get extra upload speed (up from 5 to 10 Mbit) |
| 10:17.05 | Fisker | btw best thing today |
| 10:17.12 | Fisker | they asked me if i could install IE10 on XP |
| 10:17.19 | Fisker | Should almost have stayed at home |
| 10:20.11 | nevcairiel | i got 50/10, and i'm not sure how else i would spend my 60mbit, maybe if i can change it quickly i might adjust it from day to day, but a global setting? not sure, 10mbit upload is OK for my general use case |
| 10:23.16 | Fisker | changing it takes 10 mins :P |
| 10:23.52 | airtonix | Fisker: just make them use safari on xp |
| 10:24.00 | airtonix | it's a really good browser |
| 10:24.10 | airtonix | for the best OS ever made |
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| 11:05.24 | airtonix | Fisker: would you ever leap motion? |
| 11:07.36 | Fisker | i already did |
| 11:14.17 | airtonix | http://www.interaxon.ca/muse/ |
| 11:14.58 | airtonix | personally I think holding your arms up in the air presents the same kind of problems that the magic mouse did |
| 11:26.36 | Alram | i have one too |
| 11:26.39 | Alram | you can do it pretty well |
| 11:26.44 | Alram | if you position it correctly |
| 11:26.48 | Alram | and most importantly sit correctly |
| 11:26.55 | Alram | it can be not tiring at all |
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| 12:01.02 | jleclanche | i need someone to suggest me three games from this list: http://www.gog.com/high5 |
| 12:01.18 | jleclanche | already picked dyad and amnesia |
| 12:03.52 | jleclanche | oh evoland is in there |
| 12:04.38 | zenzio | any genre you prefer? |
| 12:07.33 | jleclanche | zenzio: not really. i avoid rts tho |
| 12:07.55 | jleclanche | this is more of a "games worth owning" situation |
| 12:08.13 | jleclanche | i need 2 more :\ |
| 12:08.40 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:09.02 | zenzio | was about to say, yeah |
| 12:09.13 | airtonix | no linux games there... none worth owning. |
| 12:09.14 | haste | same company, older engine |
| 12:09.27 | haste | does gog.com have any linux games at all? |
| 12:09.30 | zenzio | I hear Lucius can be fun, if you like that sort of thing. Otherwise Alan Wake was decent-ish |
| 12:09.34 | jleclanche | haste: not yet, it will tho |
| 12:09.43 | haste | penumbra is supported on linux at least |
| 12:09.46 | jleclanche | but all their stuff works on wine almost |
| 12:10.01 | jleclanche | haste: need one more still |
| 12:10.25 | haste | I can't really comment on any of the other gamse |
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| 12:10.51 | jleclanche | ill grab alan wake i think |
| 12:12.21 | airtonix | signal ops looks kinda interesting |
| 12:12.31 | jleclanche | hm actually Strike Suit Zero looks good |
| 12:13.38 | jleclanche | airtonix: it does but im not sure how fun it could be |
| 12:13.49 | jleclanche | ah who cares Im never gonna play any of these T_T |
| 12:14.35 | airtonix | i seem to have more fun watching people on youtube play the games |
| 12:14.59 | airtonix | well not more. but perhaps I extract the best amount of fun appropriate for myself that way. |
| 12:15.31 | airtonix | not fun anymore? stop. didn't pay. always win. |
| 12:15.53 | zenzio | a little like porn |
| 12:16.15 | airtonix | oh really? i should look into that. |
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| 12:37.56 | zenzio | morning, peppy! |
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| 12:41.04 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, zenzio! |
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| 12:42.31 | zenzio | this keyboard seems to have poor response time on the Ctrl key |
| 12:43.05 | airtonix | maybe you need to start using vi? |
| 12:43.17 | airtonix | need coffee? use vi! |
| 12:43.29 | airtonix | open the fridge? vi! |
| 12:43.50 | Lopeppeppy | Or train a dog. |
| 12:43.58 | zenzio | remember, "vi" is a large part of "evil" |
| 12:44.12 | airtonix | exactly 50% ? |
| 12:44.48 | airtonix | 50% is large enough to make the other 50% feel threatened or "religously opressed" |
| 12:45.45 | Fisker | morning Lopeppeppy :D |
| 12:46.05 | airtonix | die Fisker |
| 12:46.08 | Fisker | :( |
| 12:48.12 | Fisker | so anyone else being asked to install ie10 on windows xp? |
| 12:48.49 | airtonix | lol |
| 12:50.31 | zenzio | Fisker: tell them it will cost ~€300 and require a theme change; then install Win8 on their computer |
| 12:56.37 | zenzio | uplifting after a dull day of work... spotify:track:0G8iyOJFQ8Wvm4Fe6xjQdr |
| 12:56.54 | zenzio | hm, that was not the HTTP link, obviously |
| 13:14.55 | karl_w_w | says who? |
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| 13:30.35 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Fisker-boo. |
| 14:03.23 | Fisker | getting ready for work i assume? |
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| 14:12.33 | Lopeppeppy | Parked at my desk being work-like. |
| 14:15.28 | zenzio | sounds familiar |
| 14:17.07 | Fisker | I'm done for today |
| 14:17.21 | Fisker | so much stuff |
| 14:17.36 | zenzio | installing IE10 on XP is taxing |
| 14:17.48 | Fisker | It's like "Anything come up while i was sick?" *gets handed all the things* |
| 14:18.15 | Fisker | I should get a secretary to screen my calls zenzio |
| 14:18.27 | zenzio | true story |
| 14:19.05 | Fisker | I pretty much just said it wasn't possible and told her to take it up with my boss if she had an issue with that |
| 14:19.20 | Fisker | Then i told the helpdesk guys that you can't actually install anything newer than IE8 on XP |
| 14:19.29 | Lopeppeppy | I need a Patriots jersey. Why did I never buy one in Boston? |
| 14:20.00 | Fisker | and now i get to go home |
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| 14:21.41 | Lopeppeppy | Safe travels. |
| 14:22.37 | Maldivia | Lopeppeppy: order one onlinE? |
| 14:22.49 | Lopeppeppy | It's on my lunchtime list, Maldivia. :) |
| 14:24.31 | bluspacecow | noms ? |
| 14:24.43 | bluspacecow | *nibbles on Peppy's Lunch* |
| 14:26.09 | Lopeppeppy | Leftover stir fried rice. |
| 14:26.42 | bluspacecow | *hands over soys sauce* |
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| 14:44.10 | Fisker | I thought you said it was a patriots jersey |
| 14:45.03 | Cide | hi Fisker |
| 14:45.08 | Fisker | hi Cide |
| 14:45.17 | Cide | how are you? |
| 14:45.26 | bluspacecow | hi Fisker |
| 14:45.35 | TC-Work | Why do I feel like Cide is about to kill Fisker |
| 14:45.46 | Cide | never |
| 14:45.47 | Fisker | because why not TC-Work ? |
| 14:45.57 | Fisker | good Cide how are you? |
| 14:46.06 | TC-Work | Because Cide is being nice. |
| 14:46.08 | Cide | I am well |
| 14:46.09 | bluspacecow | Are you a Monkey Rat Fisker ? |
| 14:46.17 | Fisker | good |
| 14:46.19 | Cide | I am a super nice person |
| 14:46.21 | Cide | ask jnwhiteh |
| 14:47.14 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:47.20 | Cide | ew |
| 14:47.49 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 14:47.51 | bluspacecow | so mean |
| 14:47.56 | Cide | no :( |
| 14:48.19 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:48.28 | Cide | ok |
| 14:48.40 | bluspacecow | \o/ |
| 14:57.25 | Neffi | Any recommendations for movies? Sci-fi, (dark/) fantasy, adventure, mystery. |
| 14:57.37 | spode | Moon |
| 14:57.44 | Neffi | Seen it. Pretty good movie. |
| 14:57.55 | Neffi | Looking for something along those lines. Something most people haven't seen but should. |
| 14:58.19 | spode | hmm |
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| 14:58.33 | Maldivia | gravity :) |
| 14:58.36 | Neffi | Story > special effects and modern editing. |
| 14:59.10 | Neffi | The one that's not out yet? >_> |
| 14:59.10 | nevcairiel | was gravity actually good? the trailer didnt really tell me much |
| 14:59.33 | Maldivia | it has a 100% rating on rotten tomatoes :) |
| 14:59.42 | Neffi | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_(film) ? |
| 14:59.47 | nevcairiel | with one review? :p |
| 15:00.07 | Maldivia | 22 |
| 15:00.13 | Neffi | "it received universal acclaim from critics and audiences" |
| 15:00.26 | Neffi | Well it's not out on disc, and I stay way from cam rips |
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| 15:00.58 | Neffi | But I'm gonna put that on a list somewhere. Universal acclaim is practically unheard of nowadays |
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| 15:45.01 | bluspacecow | http://wow-ladies.livejournal.com/16529052.html |
| 15:45.10 | bluspacecow | silly kitty |
| 15:45.31 | nicoli_s | awww |
| 15:45.35 | nicoli_s | love the orange kitty |
| 15:45.43 | zenzelezz | you say that as if there were non-silly kitties |
| 15:45.53 | bluspacecow | well |
| 15:45.58 | bluspacecow | there is NO! Cat |
| 15:46.03 | bluspacecow | hes pretty serious |
| 15:47.47 | zenzelezz | cue http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/029/398/Iareseriouscat.jpg?1318992465 |
| 15:48.11 | bluspacecow | thats serious cat |
| 15:48.30 | bluspacecow | http://cdn3.ridiculouslyeffi.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/31220121.jpg |
| 15:48.34 | bluspacecow | ^^^ no cat |
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| 15:49.00 | nicoli_s | that serious cat looks like it has a bit of nicholas cage mixed in |
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| 15:50.14 | zenzelezz | damnit, don't ruin serious cat for me |
| 15:51.09 | Unkle | The Cage will be with you, always. |
| 15:52.09 | zenzelezz | do, or do not. There is no Cage |
| 15:53.48 | Unkle | Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of me? The Cage knows! |
| 15:53.59 | bluspacecow | that |
| 15:54.03 | bluspacecow | s the Shadow |
| 15:56.46 | Dagmar | That's a lie. I've never met Cage. |
| 15:57.09 | Dagmar | I'm sure I'd remember a thing like that. |
| 15:58.39 | Dagmar | Perl would be easier to debug. |
| 15:58.42 | Dagmar | wrong chan |
| 16:00.46 | Unkle | So I just installed the Battle.net Agent thing. Steam for Battle.net. |
| 16:01.43 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: I do think debugging Perl would be preferable to meeting Cage |
| 16:02.00 | bluspacecow | you mean the BDA Unkle. Agent's been around since 5.0.4 |
| 16:03.20 | Unkle | Sure, that. |
| 16:03.35 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.51 | bluspacecow | oh god new subreddit is weeeeeeeeeird |
| 16:08.05 | bluspacecow | and knowing me that's saying something! |
| 16:12.11 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/10894697/Patch_54_Siege_of_Orgrimmar_Preview_Video-9_9_2013 |
| 16:13.02 | pompy | https://www.facebook.com/GameRant/posts/10151654458952705 havent these companies heard of Valve? ;p I mean come on now! |
| 16:29.10 | Xinhuan | its not really quite "steam for bnet" yet though |
| 16:29.19 | Xinhuan | you can't chat with it |
| 16:29.39 | Xinhuan | and so far i've maybe seen 2-3 friends listed as online in the various games |
| 16:33.21 | pompy | http://nerdreactor.com/2013/09/09/xbox-console-leaked/ looks like that emp is gunna get his job terminated. idiots! |
| 16:34.20 | Xinhuan | maybe the leak is on purpose, to create hype |
| 16:35.15 | Xinhuan | also, most info about the console is already known, so really, nothing much learned? |
| 16:37.29 | Mr_Rabies | seems like viral marketing to me |
| 16:37.50 | Xinhuan | i looked at the video, and honestly, i didn't see anything i didn't already know |
| 16:38.58 | Mr_Rabies | seems it's probably just a video to get info out there to an audience that wouldn't watch a long e3 presentation |
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| 16:39.49 | nicoli_s | or more than likely its just what it says it is |
| 16:39.59 | nicoli_s | they have said the xbox 1 is gold and already getting shipped out |
| 16:40.05 | nicoli_s | someone just got a hold of one and showed it off |
| 16:40.23 | Lopeppeppy | I am not allowed to do that for which I do not have bail money. |
| 16:40.46 | karl_w_w | anyone played papers please? |
| 16:41.54 | TC-Work | Sounds like a government game. |
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| 16:49.54 | Mr_Rabies | i have, karl_w_w |
| 16:50.00 | Mr_Rabies | well, the demo |
| 16:57.42 | karl_w_w | any good? |
| 16:59.09 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, it's fun, i'd play the demo first |
| 17:01.01 | Mr_Rabies | http://dukope.com/ is the creator's site, it's on there |
| 17:05.42 | Xinhuan | i've watched several let's plays of it |
| 17:05.54 | Xinhuan | very entertaining |
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| 17:08.55 | bluspacecow | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/7959-Papers-Please-and-Brothers-A-Tale-of-Two-Sons |
| 17:10.06 | haste | wasted so many hours on papers please |
| 17:10.47 | Xinhuan | is the story the same every time? |
| 17:11.01 | haste | lots of different endings |
| 17:11.03 | Xinhuan | or are there more endings? |
| 17:11.05 | haste | 20 or so |
| 17:11.08 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 17:11.24 | Xinhuan | i've probably only seen like 2 endings then |
| 17:13.08 | bluspacecow | paperwork simulation hiding a suprisingly good game |
| 17:13.38 | haste | mm |
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| 17:30.39 | Shirik | http://gyazo.com/b7bb7dc29dbe13d5f0a1ea3173d9de71 |
| 17:30.46 | Shirik | This is not actually how copyrights work |
| 17:31.11 | haste | Shirik is in the public domain, because Blog. |
| 17:32.07 | Cairenn | just shakes her head |
| 17:36.14 | zenzelezz | shakes his head in tandem |
| 17:36.33 | bluspacecow | *shakes his booty ooooohhhh yeeaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh* |
| 17:36.40 | Unkle | People unclear on the concept, clearly. |
| 17:38.35 | Neffi | Because Blog? I don't get it |
| 17:39.35 | zenzelezz | neither do they |
| 17:40.00 | Neffi | I mean, are they trying to say the work is in the public domain because they found it on a blog? |
| 17:41.40 | Shirik | that's what it appears to me |
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| 17:55.20 | Fisker | ¨hey Shirik |
| 17:55.32 | Shirik | ¨hey Fisker |
| 17:57.59 | Fisker | copyright can work that way |
| 18:08.20 | Cairenn | because Monday: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwohMl9Toww |
| 18:09.08 | Fisker | she just wants some privacy from the papparazzi |
| 18:10.09 | Unkle | that music... UGH |
| 18:10.34 | Cairenn | Yeah, the music sucks |
| 18:10.38 | Cairenn | but cat being cute |
| 18:11.14 | Unkle | Cats have three settings, Pure Evil, Adorable, and SQUEE! |
| 18:12.07 | Maldivia | you're forgetting sleep |
| 18:12.17 | Unkle | See "Adorabe" |
| 18:12.19 | Cairenn | That tends to fall under Adorable |
| 18:12.22 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 18:12.27 | Cairenn | Get out of my brain Unkle! |
| 18:12.43 | Unkle | But it has cable and air conditioning. |
| 18:12.51 | Cairenn | :p |
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| 18:17.10 | Maldivia | hmm... I would have put it under evil... because that poor sod who wakes a sleeping cat! |
| 18:22.39 | Unkle | I wake the ones I live with up all the time. |
| 18:28.23 | Neffi | god help us http://i.imgur.com/D0AyeLL.png |
| 18:29.16 | Maldivia | ... |
| 18:29.42 | Unkle | *sigh* |
| 18:29.51 | Mr_Rabies | tumblr you have gone entirely too far this time |
| 18:33.26 | TC-Work | I think you mean not far enough |
| 18:37.12 | Maldivia | Unkle: re evil: http://imgur.com/bXapanH |
| 18:37.22 | Unkle | "Also, this post does contain math, which is both fun and awesome. If you disagree, then a) you’re wrong, and 2) you can skip to the bottom where I draw my conclusions." - http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/09/09/pixels_and_pranks_a_4k_tv_commercial_and_the_asteroid_impact.html |
| 18:37.51 | Unkle | Maldivia: perfect example |
| 18:39.34 | Unkle | One of the cats with which I cohabitate will walk across my tablet if I'm using it to read or watch something in bed. Every. Single. Time. Just to let me know I should be paying attention to the cat, not the tablet. |
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| 18:55.28 | nicoli_s | Unkle:get them one of the tablet cat games |
| 18:55.33 | nicoli_s | my cat and my dog love them |
| 18:55.48 | nicoli_s | doesnt solve your problem though :P |
| 18:57.38 | Unkle | heh |
| 18:58.37 | Unkle | Last night I was watching a movie (on the larger TV) in the living room, and the setting was a winter-covered wood near the US/Canada border - both cats were enthralled by the images. |
| 18:58.38 | nicoli_s | i didnt respect how nice those screens where till my dog was stomping on my ipad with no issue |
| 18:59.11 | Unkle | Gorilla Glass is pretty beef. |
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| 19:18.43 | Shirik | soooooooooooooooooooo |
| 19:18.55 | Shirik | "Just In: George Zimmerman has been taken into police custody after a domestic incident with a gun in Florida." |
| 19:19.31 | jnwhiteh | was he wearing a hoodie? |
| 19:21.08 | Fisker | :o |
| 19:34.37 | TC-Work | How does he have a domestic incident with a gun? Is he married to it? |
| 19:36.54 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 19:37.03 | Dagmar | I suppose the neighbors overheard him having a loud argument with the gun. |
| 19:37.03 | nicoli_s | the article on css just said there was a gun there, wasnt involved |
| 19:37.09 | nicoli_s | cnn* |
| 19:41.51 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/1Bmkt.jpg |
| 19:42.04 | Neffi | A big part of me wants to do this and watch the outcome |
| 19:45.14 | Unkle | nicoli_s: Since his wife has filed for divorce, I suspect loud arguments are an on-going event. The fact that he owns a gun is not really relevant unless the man brandishes it during such an argument. |
| 19:48.38 | nicoli_s | Unkle:i was just pointing out the inconsistenices between whoever reported what shirik read and what cnn says |
| 19:49.33 | Fisker | his wife was black TC-Work |
| 19:49.54 | nicoli_s | so its mine, what does that have to do with anything? |
| 19:49.54 | Fisker | wow |
| 19:52.39 | karl_w_w | http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/9882019168 lol |
| 19:53.45 | Fisker | Nothing nicoli_s was just a reference to the ridiculousness of that case he was in |
| 19:54.50 | nicoli_s | i cant wait till hearthstone is open to all |
| 19:54.56 | nicoli_s | hopefully wont get my ass kicked as much |
| 20:00.15 | Unkle | I want it. It looks like the perfect tablet game to play against a bunch of you |
| 20:01.02 | nicoli_s | it is perfect for tablets |
| 20:01.23 | nicoli_s | i have it on a convertible laptop whos only purpouse now is to sit on my coffee table and allow any time hearthstone play\ |
| 20:03.08 | Unkle | Since I like the tablet version of M:tG I'm figuring Hearthstone will be equally engrossing. |
| 20:04.04 | nicoli_s | yeah its like a fast casual version of MTG |
| 20:04.39 | Unkle | I was disappointed that I didn't get into the beta, but oh well. |
| 20:13.48 | nicoli_s | if i get some more keys ill throw some into the channel |
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| 20:30.01 | Dashkal | Timeless isle question: Do the chests vanish for awhile when someone opens them? |
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| 20:36.47 | Ressy | Dashkal: A few seconds. |
| 20:36.53 | Ressy | But respawns quickly |
| 20:37.51 | Dashkal | Ok awesome |
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| 20:38.11 | Dashkal | No need to panic then if I finish clearing then some rogue destealths |
| 20:59.18 | Stanzilla | nicoli_s: you don't get a key from curse? |
| 21:00.54 | nicoli_s | Stanzilla:i got 3 keys from curse |
| 21:01.13 | nicoli_s | i said if i get some more keys ill share with the channel |
| 21:01.29 | Stanzilla | no I meant because you said you can't wait till it's open to all |
| 21:01.39 | Stanzilla | that's why I assumed you don't have one |
| 21:02.02 | Unkle | He wants more opponents. |
| 21:03.59 | Stanzilla | and nicoli_s always needs highlights :D |
| 21:12.59 | Arrowmaster | its windows only right? |
| 21:13.16 | Arrowmaster | or win/mac |
| 21:20.58 | zenzelezz | you never realise how much you use your shift key when coding until you bind it to push-to-talk |
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| 21:21.34 | pompy1 | http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/09/08/oh-and-homeworld-shipbreakers-is-no-longer-f2p/ |
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| 21:23.07 | TC-Work | A letgit homeworld game. I'm happy |
| 21:29.15 | Unkle | zenzelezz: So few non-printing keys, so many presses. |
| 21:29.46 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: win/mac |
| 21:30.31 | zenzelezz | non-printing? |
| 21:31.03 | Unkle | As in they don't put a character on the screen or into your file. |
| 21:31.06 | zenzelezz | shift on my keyboard layout does > ! " # % & / ( ) = ?, so it comes up a lot |
| 21:31.07 | p3lim | Should really start locking threads that has had no activity for 6+ months, necrobumping sucks |
| 21:31.52 | Unkle | For example, I use the ~ key for PTT 'cause I don't use it for anything in gaming... where I use SHIFT, CTRL and ALT for modifiers constantly. |
| 21:32.20 | Unkle | But using ~ sucks if I'm using voice comm and not playing WoW. |
| 21:32.36 | zenzelezz | normally I use Ctrl for push-to-talk, but it's not rebindable in World of Tanks, so shift was the second best |
| 21:33.01 | p3lim | Voice activation > push-to-talk |
| 21:33.16 | zenzelezz | depends |
| 21:33.24 | zenzelezz | for me it's the other way around |
| 21:33.31 | p3lim | Properly configure it and have a mute toggle key |
| 21:34.32 | zenzelezz | just not a thing for me |
| 21:34.51 | zenzelezz | if it works for you, that's great - it would be simpler for sure |
| 21:44.35 | TC-Work | I use one of my many mouse buttons for ptt, I find it works resonably well. |
| 21:44.40 | TC-Work | depends on the game |
| 21:47.28 | zenzelezz | hm... I use my two side buttons for page up/down, but I don't really use that much anymore... I should try that out, good tip |
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| 21:52.52 | nicoli_s | Stanzilla:i live off highlights |
| 21:54.45 | Stanzilla | nicoli_s: so did you read what I said? :D |
| 22:02.56 | jleclanche | Stanzilla: you were interested in star citizen right? |
| 22:03.27 | Stanzilla | jleclanche: no |
| 22:03.37 | Stanzilla | should I? |
| 22:04.24 | jleclanche | yes |
| 22:06.00 | Dagmar | Fancy spaceships! Soul-crushing GPu requirements! |
| 22:06.10 | jleclanche | fuck, yes |
| 22:06.14 | jleclanche | my gpu is crying |
| 22:06.17 | jleclanche | seriously |
| 22:06.38 | Unkle | what GPU do you have? |
| 22:06.42 | jleclanche | gtx480 |
| 22:06.50 | jleclanche | i think theres a bug with the motion blur too. i turned around very quickly in the hangar a few times and my gpu fan started spinning so hard |
| 22:07.18 | Dagmar | hehe |
| 22:07.20 | Unkle | holy crap... I have the gtx465 ... Maybe I shouldn't get that. |
| 22:07.24 | jleclanche | that i immediately rebooted into linux, and in the time it took windows to shut down, install updates, reboot into grub, then for linux to start up |
| 22:07.32 | Dagmar | After they get this game done he's sure to be hired by Bethesda |
| 22:07.41 | jleclanche | my gpu was still running a nice 85 degrees Celcius |
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| 23:24.22 | pompy1 | http://nerdreactor.com/2013/09/09/worlds-largest-pc-vendor-enters-gaming-world/ |
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| 23:42.19 | TC-Work | pompy1: I have to say whomever wrote that article seems to have some brain damage. |
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