| 00:02.53 | bleeter | 'I actually want this, i would subscribe to WoW for this so hard.' |
| 00:08.55 | *** join/#wowuidev Seerah (~RyanNL@adsl-74-226-74-135.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 00:08.55 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Seerah] by ChanServ |
| 00:29.34 | Dagmar | I thought we'd had ponies for awhile actually, due to Darkmoon |
| 00:44.12 | *** join/#wowuidev Wobin (~quassel@54.210.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 01:02.39 | Shirik | local wildfire's up to 3000 acres |
| 01:07.52 | Cairenn | :( |
| 01:09.29 | Shirik | apparently the news agency sucks |
| 01:09.37 | Shirik | http://www.inciweb.org/incident/3662/ |
| 01:09.41 | Shirik | 11040 acres |
| 01:24.58 | *** join/#wowuidev MysticalOS (~Myst@h10.207.89.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) |
| 01:30.16 | *** join/#wowuidev Neffi (~Neffi@24.115.184.55.res-cmts.gld.ptd.net) |
| 01:36.14 | pompy | www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/23/ben-affleck-to-play-batman-in-man-of-steel-sequel lol? |
| 01:36.39 | fewyn | wait |
| 01:36.42 | fewyn | this is a joke right? |
| 01:37.11 | pompy | http://www.thewrap.com/movies/column-post/ben-affleck-set-play-batman-man-steel-sequel-112801 another source |
| 01:39.37 | Neffi | And more of a reason not to pay attention to the Man of Steel movies |
| 01:39.53 | Neffi | How about we get a good Deadpool or Loki movie? |
| 01:41.14 | fewyn | deadpool plz |
| 01:50.34 | Neffi | It's actually under development already. But Ryan Renolds is the star. |
| 01:59.50 | fewyn | i think ryan reynolds could make a good deadpool |
| 01:59.51 | fewyn | maybew |
| 02:09.52 | Neffi | That's a big maybe |
| 02:16.36 | *** join/#wowuidev Iriel (~Iriel@173-8-135-209-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 02:16.37 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 02:17.16 | Arrowmaster | will it have pancakes? |
| 02:38.31 | *** join/#wowuidev schnoggo (~lonkoenig@216.161.20.67) |
| 02:56.22 | *** join/#wowuidev p3lim (~quassel@250.17.9.46.customer.cdi.no) |
| 02:57.45 | *** join/#wowuidev Dewin (~Daniel@c-67-160-127-180.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 13:45.13 | *** join/#wowuidev purl (~purl@rikers.org) |
| 13:45.13 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://pastebin.com || 5.3.x ToC: 50300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || This channel is logged, via purl || BlizzCon! Nov. 8-9 || Happy Birthday Mrs. Ackis! |
| 13:49.54 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OztGJhiBQTo |
| 13:53.54 | zenzio | I remember our first cat... we had a ball that we'd drop down the stairs, and he would chase it and bring it back; repeat |
| 13:54.03 | zenzio | until he got fed up, then he hid it |
| 13:54.46 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps (~Kraps@unaffiliated/kraps) |
| 13:55.06 | bluspacecow | ha ha |
| 13:55.15 | bluspacecow | so your cat was like "fuck you bitches" and hid the ball |
| 13:56.47 | zenzio | pretty much |
| 13:59.30 | VIad | http://dilbert.com/strips/2013-08-15/ :D |
| 14:00.19 | *** join/#wowuidev Yoshimo (~Miranda@p5493F35A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:00.19 | *** join/#wowuidev Yoshimo (~Miranda@unaffiliated/yoshimo) |
| 14:00.32 | zenzio | VIad: heh |
| 14:11.40 | karl_w_w | I don't think I've ever found a dilbert even slightly funny |
| 14:12.05 | VIad | there is a gem or two popping up each year |
| 14:12.29 | karl_w_w | was that supposed to be one of them? |
| 14:13.44 | Lopeppeppy | Hopefully not. |
| 14:13.51 | bluspacecow | *gasp* |
| 14:13.59 | bluspacecow | A lone Peppy appears! |
| 14:14.06 | bluspacecow | hi2u |
| 14:21.10 | *** join/#wowuidev Telshin (~textual@2001:408:0:100:b0d3:922c:7fc4:3469) |
| 14:24.35 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj4EWAhMTb4 heading to the crazy part of youtube |
| 14:24.51 | karl_w_w | smash, smash, suh-mash |
| 14:25.00 | *** join/#wowuidev g0urra (~g0urra@unaffiliated/gourra) |
| 14:27.05 | pompy | http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/press/2013/aug13/08-23AnnouncementPR.aspx |
| 14:27.13 | Lopeppeppy | I'm actually getting sick of the fbomb in my office right now. I must be getting old. |
| 14:28.23 | Lopeppeppy | As the local radio station arrives to interview us. That's hilarious. I hope they were recording. |
| 14:31.55 | airtonix | fbomb? |
| 14:32.01 | airtonix | are you being cowardly? |
| 14:33.04 | airtonix | ck loius and words that offend people: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF1NUposXVQ |
| 14:35.03 | karl_w_w | I'm pretty sure the CK comes after |
| 14:35.19 | mikma | so |
| 14:35.23 | mikma | bradley manning... |
| 14:35.29 | mikma | chelsea manning? |
| 14:35.45 | mikma | he's really readying for his role as the wife in prison |
| 14:35.46 | karl_w_w | too late mikma we had that conversation :P |
| 14:36.08 | mikma | you also had the prisonwife conversation? |
| 14:36.32 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 14:36.38 | karl_w_w | pretty much :P |
| 14:36.38 | mikma | liar |
| 14:36.56 | airtonix | but no the motherdad convo |
| 14:39.55 | *** join/#wowuidev Mihau (~Mihau@76.164.170.2) |
| 14:45.45 | *** join/#wowuidev Ressy (~Ressy@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Ressy) |
| 14:58.49 | *** join/#wowuidev Unkle (~mconverse@50-0-113-123.dedicated.static.sonic.net) |
| 15:08.48 | Ackis | my last google search: how do you draw a circle in visio |
| 15:08.53 | Ackis | I'm getting dumber in my old age |
| 15:09.19 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 15:10.16 | Ackis | and the worst part is, the #1 result makes no sense to me :( |
| 15:10.19 | bluspacecow | old |
| 15:10.22 | bluspacecow | :3 |
| 15:14.57 | *** join/#wowuidev bluspacecow (~bluspacec@121.99.93.175) |
| 15:14.57 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v bluspacecow] by ChanServ |
| 15:21.18 | *** join/#wowuidev Xandr (~Xandr@89.101.75.36) |
| 15:23.32 | fewyn | http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/08/23/wing-bystander-star-citizen-kinda-playable-next-week/ |
| 15:23.34 | fewyn | squeeeeeel |
| 15:30.25 | Stanzilla | acks |
| 15:30.31 | Stanzilla | Ackis: why did you huh me |
| 15:39.36 | pompy | bc u make no sense |
| 15:47.29 | Stanzilla | pompy: why? because I write in german? :D |
| 15:47.41 | bluspacecow | ha ha |
| 15:47.46 | bluspacecow | i read that as in General |
| 15:47.50 | bluspacecow | as in the General forums |
| 16:20.59 | *** join/#wowuidev bluspacecow (~bluspacec@121.99.141.55) |
| 16:20.59 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v bluspacecow] by ChanServ |
| 16:30.53 | sankle | Ackis: sorry you have to use visio |
| 16:30.57 | Unkle | OMG - It's full of marshmallows - http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2013/08/23/all-5-general-mills-monster-cereals-returning-to-shelves-this-halloween/ |
| 16:31.01 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v nicoli_s] by ChanServ |
| 16:32.49 | jleclanche | fewyn: i know right :D |
| 16:33.10 | jleclanche | fewyn: a german website had an interview with chris roberts that had a run through the hangar module |
| 16:33.13 | jleclanche | it is PRETTYYYYY |
| 16:33.22 | fewyn | i can't wait |
| 16:34.12 | jleclanche | fewyn: play some independence war 2 in the meantime |
| 16:34.26 | Ackis | Stanzilla: I have no idea what you got but it looks neat and I want ont |
| 16:36.28 | *** join/#wowuidev Dennls (~dennis@s55973038.adsl.online.nl) |
| 16:37.24 | Ackis | Chromecast is not available in your country. :( |
| 16:38.56 | jleclanche | >> as someone who has never watched that show, how come? |
| 16:38.56 | jleclanche | > Because they're usually going to get stabbed in the chest and cut into little pieces, shoved into trash bags, and thrown into the ocean. |
| 16:38.59 | jleclanche | Ah, dexter. |
| 16:44.09 | mikma | ackis: them bastards. i have need for two of them :P |
| 16:51.54 | Lopeppeppy | Unkle, I mail those cereals to a friend in Canada every season. Hilarious. |
| 16:52.28 | Unkle | Lopeppeppy: I think I'm going to buy a box of each - just for nostalgia. |
| 16:53.13 | Unkle | My mom never bought them when I was a kid, so I only had them when I was at a friend's - and I remember wanting them pretty badly. |
| 16:57.37 | Stanzilla | Ackis: :( |
| 16:59.08 | Shirik | Unkle: your parents were good people |
| 16:59.30 | Unkle | Well, naturally. |
| 17:03.01 | *** join/#wowuidev Seerah (~RyanNL@adsl-74-226-74-135.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 17:03.02 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Seerah] by ChanServ |
| 17:19.24 | Ackis | oh americans, how I love thee: http://varnull.adityamukerjee.net/post/59021412512/dont-fly-during-ramadan |
| 17:23.55 | *** join/#wowuidev cogwheel (~cogwheel@WoWUIDev/WoWProgramming/morlando/cogwheel) |
| 17:26.14 | *** join/#wowuidev tharper (~tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht) |
| 17:29.43 | fewyn | MERKA |
| 17:34.38 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps (~Kraps@unaffiliated/kraps) |
| 17:36.46 | VIad | going to shower - but in the meantime we need this now http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akkermansia |
| 17:41.57 | Semlar | yes, we should block food from being absorbed into the body |
| 17:42.06 | Semlar | that sounds like it won't have any drawbacks |
| 17:49.04 | Ackis | have you ever read studies on the side effects of "fat blocking" drugs? |
| 17:53.26 | Semlar | i took a fundamentals of pharmacology course |
| 17:55.39 | Semlar | anyway if you restrict what gets absorbed into your body you'll eventually run into nutritional problems |
| 17:57.26 | Torhal | hands Ackis some code-enabling drugs. |
| 17:58.23 | Ackis | Semlar: it's not even a nutritional issue with the fat-blocking... just think of it this way: fat goes in, you aren't going to digest it, fat needs to go out someway |
| 17:58.51 | Semlar | so it passes through undigested |
| 17:59.35 | Ackis | what happens to butter when you warm it up? |
| 17:59.55 | Semlar | wait do people think fat makes you fat |
| 18:00.37 | Ackis | *shrug* I dunno, I just had to read a study for work one time... first time a work document had the terms "anal leakage" in it |
| 18:00.48 | kd3 | winces |
| 18:01.24 | Mr_Rabies | well, it does, sorta |
| 18:01.31 | Semlar | well, indirectly |
| 18:01.45 | Semlar | and only because it contains calories |
| 18:01.50 | Mr_Rabies | it is 9 calories per gram or something, right? which is pretty significant |
| 18:02.38 | Semlar | taking in more calories than your body uses is why you gain weight |
| 18:02.43 | Semlar | that's about it |
| 18:02.52 | Mr_Rabies | yup |
| 18:03.06 | Ackis | Semlar: but you have all the nutritionists saying you need to eat throughout the day for metabolism blah blah blah |
| 18:03.33 | Mr_Rabies | hence blocking part of one of the more calorie-laden nutrients would probably lead to pretty significant weight gain |
| 18:03.34 | Mr_Rabies | er |
| 18:03.36 | Mr_Rabies | loss |
| 18:03.37 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 18:03.57 | Semlar | your body needs fats just like it needs other nutrients |
| 18:04.06 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, but i doubt it'd block fats 100% |
| 18:04.19 | Mr_Rabies | if it does that's pretty much useless |
| 18:04.55 | Ackis | but fat blockers == anal leakage!!!! |
| 18:05.17 | Mr_Rabies | depends, ackis |
| 18:05.19 | Semlar | i don't know how true that is considering your body doesn't absorb 100% of what you eat anyway |
| 18:05.39 | Semlar | and you don't go around leaking |
| 18:07.48 | Semlar | there are at least 2 different surgeries that reduce the size of your stomach already |
| 18:08.06 | VIad | alcohol can be equally damaging to your body if you abuse it - same goes for these akkermansia related drugs - doesn't mean both should be banned or illegal :P |
| 18:09.08 | VIad | I hope my laundry finishes before the power goes :( |
| 18:09.17 | Semlar | why is the power going |
| 18:09.36 | VIad | my timeslot is 16 to 20 |
| 18:10.05 | VIad | after that they turn off the power to the room, but I hope it's the same circuit as the drying room, meaning the machine would work until 22 :P |
| 18:10.22 | Mr_Rabies | look into olestra, semlar, that stuff can have such an effect |
| 18:10.31 | Semlar | i'm not looking into anything |
| 18:10.36 | Semlar | i don't care about fat blockers |
| 18:10.45 | Mr_Rabies | it blocks vitamin absorption and some fats |
| 18:10.48 | Semlar | you could you know, eat less |
| 18:11.01 | Mr_Rabies | it's a food additive in some potato chips |
| 18:11.02 | VIad | it's like you never read the wiki article tough |
| 18:11.13 | VIad | it's about restoring the normal levels of this bacterie in overweight people |
| 18:11.56 | VIad | brb - laundry - checking if the machine still works :PØ |
| 18:11.56 | Semlar | that is not what the article says |
| 18:12.24 | Semlar | it doesn't say how much of the bacteria was introduced at all |
| 18:17.00 | VIad | quote "The bacterium is naturally present in the human digestive tract at 3-5%, but has been seen to fall with obesity." |
| 18:17.19 | Semlar | yeah? and how much did they give the obese rats |
| 18:17.27 | VIad | irellevant! :P |
| 18:17.29 | Semlar | it doesn't say they restored it to natural levels |
| 18:18.31 | *** join/#wowuidev Ressy (~Ressy@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Ressy) |
| 18:18.31 | VIad | you can take the stuff depending on how much you need, so get checked up, find out how much you need to get to back to normal levels, take it |
| 18:18.31 | VIad | like alcohol, you don't have to drink until you pass out, you can moderate yourself :P |
| 18:18.31 | Semlar | first off, if you could moderate yourself you wouldn't need this |
| 18:18.44 | VIad | dunno, maybe there are some disorders that help get you fat |
| 18:18.51 | VIad | those people would get help from these bacteria |
| 18:21.57 | VIad | dang it, the power is off, so I gotta finish my washing tomorrow morning :D |
| 18:22.07 | VIad | oh well, shame I couldn't sleep with my favorite bed sheets tonight |
| 18:24.19 | Semlar | that'll teach you to do the laundry |
| 18:28.12 | Torhal | moderates VIad with sweeping and unsubstantiated statements. |
| 18:30.16 | Semlar | it bothers me that the model viewer for the transmog interface holds weapons in the wrong hand |
| 18:30.31 | Semlar | it looks really bad any time you preview a bow in it because it has the backside facing out |
| 18:31.10 | VIad | :D |
| 18:31.22 | VIad | sem, it's been like that since vanilla? |
| 18:31.59 | Semlar | no i'm pretty sure there wasn't a transmog interface in vanilla |
| 18:32.21 | VIad | the model widget is the same |
| 18:32.26 | Semlar | nope |
| 18:32.32 | VIad | is this issue like this when you use the dressing room? |
| 18:32.34 | Semlar | it doesn't do this when you ctrl click an item |
| 18:32.51 | Semlar | it's only in the model preview for the transmog guy |
| 18:33.13 | VIad | hmm, ok |
| 18:36.02 | VIad | I admit, I don't play wow anymore so I am getting left behind on the trends and UI stuff :P |
| 18:37.24 | VIad | btw how does one clean up mines? |
| 18:37.27 | VIad | minus the "stepping and dying on them" comment |
| 18:37.44 | Semlar | dismantling them |
| 18:37.48 | zenzelezz | in what quantity? |
| 18:37.51 | VIad | but how? :( |
| 18:37.56 | VIad | like 50k |
| 18:38.01 | VIad | so huge numbers |
| 18:38.25 | kd3 | use a mine disposal machine (read: freaking huge truck with a flail on the front) |
| 18:38.25 | zenzelezz | back around WW2 (I think) they had basically bulldozers with spinning chains in front, that just pounded the ground, setting them off |
| 18:38.25 | Semlar | some guy built a really inexpensive minesweeper that was just a ball with sticks coming out of it |
| 18:38.28 | Dagmar | Find a newbie, tell them they contain treats |
| 18:38.30 | Semlar | and the wind blew it around |
| 18:38.39 | VIad | ah I remember that from TED, Semlar |
| 18:39.40 | Semlar | as far as i know they're mostly taken apart by hand by volunteers in these poor countries |
| 18:39.50 | Semlar | and it's absurdly dangerous |
| 18:41.37 | Ackis | dafuq my cell company started charging me text messages to the states |
| 18:43.46 | *** join/#wowuidev zoktar (~zoktar@unaffiliated/zoktar) |
| 18:57.08 | jleclanche | fewyn: http://www.videogameszone.de/Star-Citizen-PC-256428/Videos/Star-Citizen-Chris-Roberts-im-Mega-Interview-1085041/ |
| 18:57.09 | jleclanche | so good |
| 18:57.22 | Torhal | charges Ackis per IRC message. |
| 18:57.27 | jleclanche | ive never been so excited about something in my life |
| 18:57.36 | jleclanche | this is gonna be such a soul-crushing disappointment |
| 18:57.42 | zenzelezz | haha |
| 19:00.57 | Ackis | jleclanche: I'm getting annoyed at that game |
| 19:01.59 | zenzelezz | how so? |
| 19:03.35 | Ackis | I joined the kickstarter when it was pretty basic/simple and now it feels like it's a cheap MMO with how content is being nickle and dimed, pay $5 to get this, pay $20 for that, blah blah blah |
| 19:05.01 | jleclanche | Ackis: fwics its just content that's accessible with ingame credits that's like that |
| 19:05.18 | jleclanche | and the main issue is right now its not like you can acquire ingame credits |
| 19:05.24 | jleclanche | (other than... you know, buying them) |
| 19:06.04 | jleclanche | its pretty successful to raise money it seems |
| 19:06.20 | jleclanche | i hope playing it wont come to thousands of dollars |
| 19:06.23 | jleclanche | but then again |
| 19:06.34 | Ackis | jleclanche: it just seems that it's overkill and it makes my hopes for it diminish |
| 19:06.40 | jleclanche | 8 years of wow does come to thousands of dollars too :P |
| 19:07.00 | jleclanche | Ackis: wait and see right now, Im staying away from the community for that reason for the time being |
| 19:29.34 | Gnarfoz | rages |
| 19:31.21 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3|hate`net (~Kaydeethr@unaffiliated/kd3) |
| 19:35.05 | *** join/#wowuidev Dewin (~Daniel@c-67-160-127-180.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 19:35.25 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (~Kaydeethr@unaffiliated/kd3) |
| 19:36.32 | Gnarfoz | site we used for booking our BlizzCon hotels went belly-up today |
| 19:37.45 | Gnarfoz | announcement includes a passage that says the companies through which they booked hotel rooms for their customers have announced they are going to cancel all bookings made by this site |
| 19:37.49 | Gnarfoz | woohoo |
| 19:37.52 | Gnarfoz | :F |
| 19:37.55 | zenzelezz | :-/ |
| 19:38.06 | Ressy | wow |
| 19:38.18 | Ressy | What site was this? |
| 19:38.37 | Gnarfoz | gonna have to call the hotel and check if they already have the reservation or something, or possibly even have already received the payment, and if not, if I can pay them directly instead |
| 19:38.55 | Gnarfoz | in retrospect, a shitty one |
| 19:39.04 | Gnarfoz | http://www.clever-hotels.com/en/ |
| 19:39.08 | Fisker | so if they don't you're screwed? |
| 19:40.29 | Gnarfoz | pretty much, if they don't, I'll have to book somewhere else; the Marriott is fully booked already anyway |
| 19:40.29 | zenzelezz | sounds like they... *sunglasses* weren't so clever after all |
| 19:40.34 | zenzelezz | but yeah, that really sucks |
| 19:40.55 | Gnarfoz | I should be able to get my money back when the insolvency proceedings (which would be chapter 11 to USians, I guess?) start in October/November |
| 19:41.14 | zenzelezz | how long ago did you make the payment? |
| 19:41.15 | Gnarfoz | but that's a bit late, and obviously I'll still lose the hotel booking |
| 19:41.22 | Gnarfoz | 2013-04-04 |
| 19:41.25 | Fisker | typically speaking aren't customers the last people to get their money back? |
| 19:41.32 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: yeah |
| 19:41.34 | zenzelezz | ah... guess charge-back is a bit late then |
| 19:41.44 | zenzelezz | or whatever it's called in English |
| 19:42.09 | Gnarfoz | zenzelezz: good call though, hadn't thought of that... but yeah, it's been a while |
| 19:43.20 | *** join/#wowuidev seank (~SeanK@50.46.150.209) |
| 19:44.40 | Kraps | Ahn'Qiraj has some really cool music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCLJjV3Ewpc&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLA7BF83CD97A91EFA |
| 19:46.55 | *** join/#wowuidev Thunder_Child (~Thunder_C@99-50-80-110.lightspeed.lsanca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 19:46.55 | *** join/#wowuidev Thunder_Child (~Thunder_C@WoWUIDev/PITA/TC) |
| 19:50.26 | Gnarfoz | Google Voice from * to USA is pretty cheap oO $0.01/min |
| 19:53.13 | Gnarfoz | how the hell is the Anaheim Marriott's website URI on Google+ www.hertz.com? |
| 19:53.20 | Gnarfoz | that's rather confusing :D |
| 19:57.10 | *** join/#wowuidev Neffi (~Neffi@24.115.184.55.res-cmts.gld.ptd.net) |
| 20:07.24 | bleeter | heh http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-23810978 |
| 20:11.05 | Gnarfoz | how the hell do I place a call using Google Voice |
| 20:11.19 | Gnarfoz | it should display call/text icons in Google Contacts, shouldn't it? |
| 20:11.21 | Gnarfoz | (it doesn't) |
| 20:11.47 | Gnarfoz | https://www.google.com/voice just shows my balance, and my call history and a link to Google Contacts |
| 20:12.12 | *** join/#wowuidev Gragagrogog (~blindpred@fw-carp.steadynet.cz) |
| 20:15.18 | *** join/#wowuidev Random (~Denial@unaffiliated/windaria) |
| 20:16.57 | Gnarfoz | whee, figured it out |
| 20:17.09 | Gnarfoz | also says 'free call' even though it shouldn't be? :D |
| 20:17.11 | Gnarfoz | I don't care |
| 20:17.12 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:19.26 | Gnarfoz | great |
| 20:19.52 | Gnarfoz | got a reservation number from the marriott, and they say it's already listed as paid on their end, so we should be good |
| 20:20.58 | Gnarfoz | http://ragefac.es/40 |
| 20:22.25 | kd3 | blah. my netbook's running in the 70s |
| 20:22.37 | kd3 | a little too hot to be on a lap |
| 20:22.39 | Gnarfoz | what's it listening to? that was a good era |
| 20:23.52 | fewyn | http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/13/08/23/1920216/new-canon-faithful-star-trek-series-is-in-pre-production |
| 20:23.53 | fewyn | OH MY GOD |
| 20:23.59 | fewyn | WHATEVER GODS I SHOULD BE PRAYING TO |
| 20:24.00 | nicoli_s | wish i was going to blizzcon this year :( |
| 20:24.02 | fewyn | PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN |
| 20:24.10 | kd3 | it's in pre-prod. the odds of it ever seeing the light of day? |
| 20:24.23 | fewyn | shh |
| 20:24.24 | kd3 | wagers on "sqrt(-1)" |
| 20:24.26 | fewyn | don't stomp on my dreams |
| 20:24.28 | Dagmar | That dpeends on whether or not the radical feminists get wind of it |
| 20:25.08 | kd3 | ...wow: http://i.imgur.com/y9SzZaG.jpg |
| 20:27.31 | *** join/#wowuidev Seerah (~RyanNL@adsl-74-226-74-135.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 20:27.31 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Seerah] by ChanServ |
| 20:31.50 | Dashkal | Hmm, I may throw into that trek pilot. While I'm not deluding myself into hope, it does seem likely that the pilot itself will get made. |
| 20:32.04 | bleeter | meh trek |
| 20:32.40 | *** join/#wowuidev NickG365 (~Nick@cpe-71-74-246-43.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 20:32.40 | bleeter | was about to say it'll probably get ruined like dr who got ruined in the reboot but then I rmembered it's trek.. |
| 20:34.07 | fewyn | pfft |
| 20:34.10 | fewyn | i like the new who |
| 20:38.21 | Dagmar | Dr. Who is fine. |
| 20:38.36 | Dashkal | Meh, I could be entertained. I liked Voyager. I liked Enterprise (and am sad that they never did find that 'cohesion'). |
| 20:39.05 | Dagmar | Well, clearly it isn't about the acting for you I guess. |
| 20:39.21 | Dashkal | Technobabble. Pretty bright primary colors. Explosions. |
| 20:39.26 | Dashkal | <-- easy to please |
| 20:39.30 | Dagmar | Enterprise's problem: "Captain Milquetoast" |
| 20:39.44 | Dagmar | Voyager's Problem: "The Three Faces of Janeway" |
| 20:39.48 | Dashkal | I don't disagree, that's part of what I meant. A good number of the actors were find in isolation. They group? fail |
| 20:39.54 | Dashkal | fine* |
| 20:40.06 | Dagmar | No the characters in Enterprise were genuinely weak |
| 20:40.13 | Dagmar | The acting in Voyager was bad |
| 20:40.28 | Dashkal | Your response was phrased as a counter, but did not counter my point. *confused look* |
| 20:40.44 | Dagmar | It wasn't because they were in a group. |
| 20:41.03 | Dashkal | It was more than writing. That group never felt right together. |
| 20:41.18 | Dagmar | Kate Mulgrew just isn't that good at acting and never got the hang of it. |
| 20:41.18 | Seerah | Voyager >>>>> Enterprise |
| 20:41.21 | Dashkal | Also, whatever writer butchered the vulcan needs to never write anything ever again. EVER |
| 20:41.32 | Dashkal | Seerah: agreed |
| 20:41.46 | Seerah | I could never watch it |
| 20:42.21 | Dagmar | In Enterprise, the _character_ of Jonathan Archer just wasn't very convincding |
| 20:42.27 | Dashkal | I do disagree on your assesment of Kate. I loved her captian. |
| 20:42.39 | Seerah | Janeway rules :) |
| 20:42.40 | Dagmar | Dude, she had three modes. |
| 20:43.21 | Dagmar | She was almost as bad a method actor as Shatner |
| 20:43.26 | Dashkal | (seriously) not seeing the problem |
| 20:43.33 | Seerah | and Shatner rules! |
| 20:43.46 | Dashkal | Heh. I started on TNG. TOS was just too campy for me |
| 20:44.09 | Torhal | TOS was campy too, just in a different manner. |
| 20:44.20 | Gnarfoz | you mean TNG? |
| 20:44.24 | Torhal | I do. |
| 20:44.25 | Gnarfoz | are you sleep again? :> |
| 20:44.33 | Gnarfoz | (or still, even!) |
| 20:44.33 | Torhal | Note to self: Acquire sleeping medication. |
| 20:44.46 | Gnarfoz | hugs Torhal |
| 20:44.47 | bleeter | TNG was rubbish |
| 20:44.54 | Seerah | psh |
| 20:44.59 | Dashkal | I agree now. The first couple seasons are nigh unwatchable for adult me |
| 20:45.01 | Torhal | I either can't get to sleep, or when I do I wake up anywhere from 2-4 hours later. |
| 20:45.03 | Gnarfoz | pushes Stanzilla into a ditch |
| 20:45.06 | Dashkal | The later ones I quite enjoy |
| 20:45.12 | Seerah | Torhal: melatonin? |
| 20:45.15 | bleeter | 1) we need a new plot line 2) hey let's get stuck in the speshul majicks room 3) ooh that's new! |
| 20:45.26 | Torhal | Seerah: Tried it, didn't work. Then again the bottle was a couple of years old. |
| 20:45.41 | Dagmar | You talkin' about the Blue Jelly Room? |
| 20:45.58 | Dagmar | I will admit I loved the Blue Jelly Room. So _very_ true to the original series that wasa |
| 20:46.06 | Seerah | Torhal: or chamomile tea? |
| 20:46.21 | Torhal | Never tried that. |
| 20:46.28 | bleeter | best thing about every ST ep ever is how a few months ago that Ex Paramount staffer leaked the paperwork about how much DSN ripped B5 off |
| 20:46.35 | Kraps | lmfao sarcasm detection fail http://gyazo.com/846a4a833b95aacd01e5d141a1299077 |
| 20:47.18 | nevcairiel | i kinda liked running to the dungeon |
| 20:47.22 | Gnarfoz | bleeter: links or it didn't happen :D |
| 20:47.23 | nevcairiel | it made the world more immersive |
| 20:47.24 | nevcairiel | =/ |
| 20:47.30 | Dashkal | Heh, you can follow the rip-offs far deeper than that |
| 20:47.39 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: whyy |
| 20:47.44 | Dagmar | "Oh no, we've been contaminated with something? Gosh I guess we'll have to go to the special private room, strip to our skivvies, and rub blue jelly all over each other." |
| 20:47.52 | Dagmar | Best idea ever. |
| 20:48.03 | Dashkal | But then near everything lands on the damn journey |
| 20:48.24 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: I need a reason? :( |
| 20:48.51 | Torhal | Blue jelly all the things? |
| 20:48.54 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: yes |
| 20:49.58 | Dagmar | Torhal: ALL the things. Repeatedly |
| 20:50.24 | Dagmar | Surely you remember those scenes from Enterprise |
| 20:50.34 | Dagmar | Even the camerawork changed during those segments |
| 20:50.37 | bleeter | Gnarfoz: it's in JMS's twitter timeline somewhere ;) |
| 20:51.01 | Dagmar | It was like they'd shoo all the normal cameramen out and bring in a bunch of guys who shoot the specials for Cinemax late night |
| 20:51.05 | bleeter | Gnarfoz: he tweeted it after he started his private production company, so I'm guessing he might not be after the money quite as much as if it were, say, 15 years ago ;) |
| 20:52.58 | bleeter | reminds me, the production schedule of that company... can't help but think he's ramping up for a B5 movie |
| 20:55.43 | Gnarfoz | jms? he wrote babylon 5? |
| 20:57.35 | bleeter | aye... well, most of the eps. gave neil gaiman his first TV show to write for. a few others wrote as well, harlan ellison, peter david, etc. but yes something like 95% was jms |
| 20:58.06 | bleeter | now there's a thing, the best new dr who eps are the neil gaiman ones |
| 20:58.22 | bleeter | and I don't like most of his writing. those eps are pretty good :) |
| 20:59.42 | Gnarfoz | I don't think I know any of those people |
| 20:59.53 | Gnarfoz | but I'm bad with names and don't really pay attention to who writes what :p |
| 21:00.47 | bleeter | harlan ellison is the guy who sued james cameron over Terminator because of old (iirc) Twilight Zone story he wrote |
| 21:01.02 | Gnarfoz | but b5 was the show where they utterly fucked up the production process so a HD release is as close to 'not going to happen' as can be? |
| 21:01.15 | bleeter | WB fucked up the storage, yes |
| 21:02.09 | bleeter | the matte shots are up the spout, the pure (FX/noFX) shots are all OK |
| 21:02.20 | Gnarfoz | up where? :D |
| 21:03.11 | Gnarfoz | I just read on wikipedia that they shot it on film and the fuckups are all after that down the line (effects, widescreen, 4:3 cropping, etc); but you seem to be better informed :D |
| 21:03.42 | Gnarfoz | i.e. wikipedia reads like TNG did, 'shot on film, so HD would be possible, but expensive' |
| 21:03.54 | Gnarfoz | not that kind of situation? |
| 21:04.45 | bleeter | something like that |
| 21:05.22 | Gnarfoz | welp, hope it some day gets the treatment, maybe I'll get around to watching it then |
| 21:05.25 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:05.32 | Gnarfoz | sounds like a great show |
| 21:06.46 | bleeter | meh, I'll forgive low quality presentation and a bit of crappy acting if the plot and character development is there |
| 21:07.18 | bleeter | this way, I manage to enjoy silent movies, black and white movies, black and white telly, books written centuries ago etc ;) |
| 21:08.34 | bleeter | wish someone would have a go at a big screen version of an Iain M Banks 'Culture' book |
| 21:09.11 | bleeter | at least he's dead now so he won't be coming out with a better story when another one's in production! |
| 21:10.09 | bleeter | anyways |
| 21:10.12 | kd3 | gah, it's been less than 2 months and a fresh f19 install's got a ~500 package update |
| 21:10.16 | bleeter | whatever happened to the Warcraft movie? |
| 21:10.25 | kd3 | grrs |
| 21:10.40 | bleeter | kd3: *AND* presto is on by default and impossible to turn off via command line switches... |
| 21:12.20 | Gnarfoz | bleeter: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0803096/ |
| 21:12.22 | bleeter | but hey, unlike Debian, with Fedora at least the NSA aren't uploading homebuilt binary packages to the distribution network. |
| 21:12.34 | kd3 | >.> |
| 21:12.35 | bleeter | well, less likely than with Debian's build 'infrastructure' ;) |
| 21:12.44 | Gnarfoz | they what? |
| 21:12.58 | bleeter | I had to go out an buy more popcorn yesterday when that thread lifted it's head again |
| 21:13.25 | bleeter | Gnarfoz: Debian's packages are built by the developer on their own machine. they don't have build infrastructure, nor are the .deb's deterministic builds |
| 21:13.41 | bleeter | so, in theory, you could be putting any old shit on your machine that doesn't match the source. |
| 21:13.56 | *** join/#wowuidev Neffi_ (~Neffi@24.115.184.55.res-cmts.gld.ptd.net) |
| 21:14.13 | bleeter | although that's true with any linux distro, it'd seem there's a really tasty vector in debian which would probably get stomped on by other distros that aren't debian derived |
| 21:14.14 | Gnarfoz | I see |
| 21:14.41 | Gnarfoz | though, red hat is a US company, they could be forced to do the same, too |
| 21:14.48 | Gnarfoz | ready your tin foil hats. |
| 21:15.25 | Neffi_ | There's not really an issue with NSA having their hand in open source software. You have to figure they probably use it internally, so they probably contribute to it. |
| 21:15.53 | Gnarfoz | that's totally not what what bleeter said is about |
| 21:16.11 | Neffi_ | Rumor has it they use FreeBSD and OpenBSD. This caused a scare a while back when some trolls insisted they were contributing security holes and backdoors. That claim never panned out after a code audit/review. Not to mention OpenBSD undergoes constant code audit. |
| 21:16.39 | Gnarfoz | you're on a different track than we were, just saying |
| 21:16.50 | Neffi_ | Yeah I may have missed a crucial part of the conversation when my internet hiccuped. |
| 21:17.03 | Gnarfoz | oh, yeah, I see, you just joined |
| 21:17.17 | Gnarfoz | and there your old self goes |
| 21:17.17 | bleeter | Neffi_: I was talking about how .deb's are build on the developer's machine and uploaded to debian's content distribution |
| 21:17.21 | bleeter | gah.. |
| 21:17.26 | Gnarfoz | no, that's his old clone |
| 21:17.27 | Gnarfoz | he's still here |
| 21:17.29 | *** join/#wowuidev tharper (~tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht) |
| 21:17.31 | bleeter | oh |
| 21:17.37 | Neffi_ | That was my old self |
| 21:17.38 | bleeter | right yes there you are thanks Gnarfoz |
| 21:17.47 | Gnarfoz | (: |
| 21:18.07 | Neffi_ | My router seems to knock me off at random when bittorrent activity is going on |
| 21:18.19 | kd3 | too many connections? |
| 21:18.23 | bleeter | Neffi_: stock firmware? |
| 21:18.26 | Neffi_ | Doubt it. I limited connections. |
| 21:18.36 | Neffi_ | It's a rented modem, so I'm not fucking with the firmwarew |
| 21:18.44 | bleeter | I've seen so mahy stock firmwares lose their shit over torrents because memory leak |
| 21:19.07 | Neffi_ | Been thinking about getting a decent router with custom firmware. But I'm not up to date. Last router I had was the WRT54G. What's the go-to router nowadays for good hardware per dollar? |
| 21:19.21 | Dagmar | They shouldn't need to do anything about those unless they're doing masquerading for you |
| 21:19.28 | Neffi_ | Well the thing is, it only fucks up this machine. The router continues on as normal. |
| 21:19.34 | bleeter | TP-Link 1043 at the lower end, 4300 at the higher. basically, anything with Atheros chipset |
| 21:19.50 | bleeter | lotsa people go broadcom but that's blobbed etc. |
| 21:19.59 | Neffi_ | Atheros is fully open? |
| 21:20.11 | Dagmar | No, they're both sketchy crap |
| 21:20.21 | Neffi_ | I thought all chips used binary blobs nowadays |
| 21:20.23 | bleeter | aye |
| 21:20.24 | bleeter | well, all but the very very latest |
| 21:20.26 | Gnarfoz | curiously, bleeter, they do have a build service for *other* architectures besides the main ones... http://www.debian.org/devel/buildd/ I wonder why they still have the maintainers do the builds themselves regardless? oO |
| 21:20.33 | Dagmar | I've not noticed Intel chipsets using binary blobs |
| 21:20.49 | zenzelezz | binary binary large objects? |
| 21:20.50 | Dagmar | Also I've not noticed Intel wireless chipsets giving me all the shit I get from BCM and Atheros |
| 21:20.52 | Neffi_ | I think Intel might be open. Makes sense, since a lot of their stuff is. |
| 21:20.58 | bleeter | atheros only need blobs at the moment for the (iirc) AC wifi |
| 21:21.12 | Dagmar | This is why I just fucking order new miniPCIe cards the moment I get something with one of the evil card sin it |
| 21:21.35 | Neffi_ | zenzelezz: Pre-compiled binary drivers/firmware, as opposed to source-available *nix drivers. |
| 21:21.53 | bleeter | anyways, their engis contribute directly to the wifi driver as much as possible. sometimes (like with the ac) they'll do a binary blob then slowly work towards opening |
| 21:22.11 | Neffi_ | Anyway I've heard of a lot of problems with Intel wifi chips and wireless-N on *nix |
| 21:22.13 | Gnarfoz | Neffi_: he was making fun of the fact that BLOB is a datatype in most RDBMS's: binary large object |
| 21:22.18 | bleeter | Neffi_: anyways, I'm super happy with my pair of http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/tl-wdr4300 |
| 21:22.26 | Neffi_ | Heh. Didn't get that one. |
| 21:22.29 | zenzelezz | Neffi_: I wasn't asking, I was doing the "nic card", "ram memory", etc. analog |
| 21:22.29 | bleeter | Neffi_: the 'other' option is Mikrotik |
| 21:22.43 | zenzelezz | and damnit I type slowly |
| 21:23.00 | Neffi_ | Also what do you guys use? Tomato, OpenWRT or DD-WRT? |
| 21:23.12 | Neffi_ | Or the crazy route and build it from OpenBSD |
| 21:23.39 | bleeter | < OpenWRT because focus is on Atheros. DD and Tomato are better for the blobbed network drivers (particularly broadcom) |
| 21:24.16 | Neffi_ | I guess the smart way would be to choose from them, and then take a look at their forums and recommended devices for a particular router model when I'm gonna buy |
| 21:24.46 | zenzelezz | are any of you familiar with pfSense? I'm running it on an old computer currently... had hoped to move it to a Raspberry Pi, but it doesn't seem to support ARM - wondering if there's any reasonably similar alternatives that do run ARM |
| 21:24.55 | bleeter | first thing is decide what you want on it. gigabit wan? one or two USB ports? wifi g or g+n? etc. |
| 21:25.17 | *** join/#wowuidev A-KO (as@unaffiliated/a-ko) |
| 21:25.56 | zenzelezz | I should actually learn to do it manually... only really use the firewall, forwarding and dyndns updater |
| 21:25.58 | Gnarfoz | gigabit WAN? I'd like that |
| 21:26.02 | Neffi_ | I'm not familiar with it, but it's based on FreeBSD, which has some ARM support. Ask around the community for what would be involved in a port. If you're lucky, the front-end and shit is all written in an interpreted language. |
| 21:26.28 | Neffi_ | But RaspPi's net performance isn't stellar. |
| 21:26.34 | bleeter | I can imagine BSD ARM support is a year or so behind Linux |
| 21:26.42 | bleeter | Neffi_: that's because the IO chip blows goats |
| 21:26.46 | kd3 | ^ |
| 21:26.51 | zenzelezz | Neffi_: I've heard the same, but I'd like to try it anyway |
| 21:27.02 | Neffi_ | It's run off a USB hub, sharing the bandwidth with the USB ports, from what I hear |
| 21:27.08 | bleeter | they've got the USB and network all on the one chip and it generates interrupts under load faster than the CPU can process so RESET RESET RESET |
| 21:27.09 | Neffi_ | So it's never really gonna be fast |
| 21:27.16 | zenzelezz | I only get 30 Mbit Internet, so it doesn't really need to handle more |
| 21:27.27 | kd3 | runs his torrent client/irc client from his model b pi |
| 21:28.03 | Neffi_ | If you're using it only as a firewall, then maybe it's fine. TBH if I wanted to do a custom setup I'd probably pick up one of the newer embedded motherboard+CPU Atom boards and do a whole firewall+router setup. |
| 21:28.09 | kd3 | it works, and lan traffic is faster than my uplink, but gah, no real-time streaming over the lan |
| 21:28.40 | Neffi_ | The upside is you also have local storage options for running applications directly on your network system, so you can have (eg) a seedbox and NAS run 24/7 without keeping other devices on. |
| 21:28.55 | bleeter | beaglebone black is better suited, imo. for a rpi running a f/w, you've got the dodgy IO chip and no crypto in the CPU (video decoder instead) |
| 21:28.56 | zenzelezz | Neffi_: it's basically just a box sitting between my modem(ish) and my network switch |
| 21:30.01 | Neffi_ | That's actually a nice idea, since I wanted a seedbox/NAS anyway. Maybe I'll skip the router and buy an Atom box and a good network card. |
| 21:30.01 | zenzelezz | bleeter: that looks interesting |
| 21:30.07 | bleeter | Neffi_: the BEST thing about OpenWRT, is http://http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/extroot |
| 21:30.18 | bleeter | http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/extroot |
| 21:30.19 | bleeter | apols for URL fail |
| 21:30.45 | bleeter | anyways, putting the firmware onto a USB stick, thus expanding the storage space on the router so can add lots of other foo |
| 21:31.13 | Neffi_ | That's a nice feature, that I kind of already expected it to have |
| 21:31.17 | Neffi_ | =) |
| 21:31.39 | bleeter | set up the basic router for limited access, then enable the overlay booting. best bits are (a) if you totally screw up the config, pull the USB and you're still online with minimal config |
| 21:31.50 | bleeter | 2) can mount the USB in Linux and do direct config changes |
| 21:31.57 | Neffi_ | Hmm |
| 21:32.08 | bleeter | 3) can *copy* the USB so backup/clone is super easy |
| 21:32.09 | Neffi_ | Things to consider |
| 21:32.15 | Neffi_ | For now I've gotta get back to cleaning |
| 21:32.16 | Dagmar | overlay heheh |
| 21:33.43 | bleeter | note that the cloning USB stick foo only works on the same chipset (hence, my 1043 USBs work inside my 4300s) |
| 21:35.12 | Ressy | Gnarfoz: Looks like you're not the only one who used that site to book: So did some of the Blizzard EU folks. |
| 21:37.55 | Gnarfoz | Ressy: great :| |
| 21:38.15 | Gnarfoz | Ressy: I'm traveling with a Blizzard EU guy, actually :D |
| 21:38.22 | Gnarfoz | going to. whatever. |
| 21:38.42 | Gnarfoz | and yeah, it was cheap and didn't look too horrible |
| 21:38.53 | Gnarfoz | guess it actually was horrible :D |
| 21:52.26 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3|hate`net (~Kaydeethr@unaffiliated/kd3) |
| 21:54.12 | *** join/#wowuidev MidnightAge (~Midnight@50-90-9-206.res.bhn.net) |
| 22:26.29 | *** join/#wowuidev zoktar (~zoktar@unaffiliated/zoktar) |
| 22:33.01 | bleeter | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSYD_v9CYAAjcrz.jpg |
| 22:33.21 | zenzelezz | =D |
| 22:50.20 | phelps | someone give me a hearthstone beta key for my bday |
| 22:52.27 | bleeter | phelps: is it your birthday? |
| 22:52.36 | phelps | it is |
| 22:53.45 | Dashkal | Happy one orbit closer to the grave day? |
| 22:54.38 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (~Kaydeethr@unaffiliated/kd3) |
| 22:54.40 | phelps | yes |
| 22:55.00 | bleeter | phelps: Happy Birthday! Unfortunately, I have no beta key for you so you'll just have to live on my best wishes to you :) |
| 22:55.19 | phelps | I know, beta keys don't actually exist |
| 22:55.26 | phelps | like unicorns |
| 22:55.30 | bleeter | what |
| 22:55.37 | bleeter | unicorns don't exist? |
| 22:55.43 | Thunder_Child | no no, unicorns exist |
| 22:55.51 | Thunder_Child | it's keys that don't |
| 23:20.12 | Neffi_ | This makes me happy http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/08/tesla-california-sales-beat-chrysler-volvo-cadillac-other-big-names/ |
| 23:20.51 | Neffi_ | They were unprofitable for a good while, and the outlook didn't look too great, even when they hit the profitability markl |
| 23:21.54 | *** join/#wowuidev harl (harl@dslb-088-077-114-104.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 23:35.49 | Semlar | i like this line about trying to force them to sell to dealerships instead of consumers |
| 23:40.18 | Neffi_ | I'm pretty sure technically, they have to |
| 23:40.40 | Neffi_ | Dealerships in the US are licensed and franchised, not run by the manufacturers |
| 23:42.49 | Sintacks | guy in my guild has a a healthstone on his DK... hasn't been logged in since last night. and the tooltip says it was made by his shaman |
| 23:43.19 | Semlar | it happens |
| 23:44.03 | Semlar | my shaman was subtlety spec for like a year on the armory |
| 23:44.13 | Sintacks | lol |
| 23:44.48 | Semlar | apparently if you don't log in for a while and they start messing with talents it does funny things |
| 23:47.16 | Semlar | back in BC they got rid of the 2 hander talent or something for shaman and i somehow ended up with the 21 and 41 point talents at the same time |
| 23:48.33 | Semlar | i think they were like nature's swiftness and earth shield |
| 23:48.50 | Semlar | you weren't supposed to be able to spec into both |
