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| 07:50.10 | dolby | thanks Torhal, cleaned |
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| 07:55.03 | phixion | spams Torhal |
| 07:55.20 | Torhal | recompiles phixion. |
| 07:55.31 | phixion | broken |
| 07:55.34 | phixion | :( |
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| 11:15.29 | karl_w_w | so when I refresh my authenticator widget one of my other apps crashes, even though I haven't used the other apps |
| 11:15.32 | karl_w_w | other app* |
| 11:15.37 | karl_w_w | every time |
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| 11:49.43 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: a specific app? |
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| 13:26.38 | karl_w_w | yes zenzelezz |
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| 13:29.05 | zenzelezz | does it have anything even remotely in common with the authenticator? |
| 13:29.30 | mitch0 | keylogger.apk |
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| 13:44.29 | karl_w_w | only that they both use networking zenzelezz |
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| 13:59.18 | VIad | perl vs python - nerdwar engage! |
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| 14:04.13 | nebula169 | not even sure who would argue that |
| 14:04.23 | VIad | I like python more :3 |
| 14:04.31 | nebula169 | now python vs ruby, i've seen get dangerous |
| 14:06.04 | TC-Work_ | I thought I remember watching part of an interview where two people went at perl vs python. |
| 14:06.19 | nebula169 | i use perl for quick scripty things, python is too structured for simple shit, i've never write anything complex in perl, though |
| 14:06.28 | nebula169 | i'd** |
| 14:06.30 | VIad | perl reminds me of php a little |
| 14:06.37 | VIad | with the $ :P |
| 14:06.54 | zenzelezz | that's rather minimal |
| 14:07.06 | VIad | haven't really used perl or ruby myself |
| 14:07.18 | VIad | perl can be a mess to read though |
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| 14:07.26 | VIad | seen some big scripts |
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| 14:12.26 | Kraps | http://wow.gameguyz.com/sites/default/files/pictures/1347414789_14.jpg |
| 14:13.04 | TC-Work | So are we all excited at the possibility of spending gobs of money today? |
| 14:13.20 | Kalroth | no :( |
| 14:13.24 | Kalroth | not much to spend it on |
| 14:14.00 | TC-Work | That just means you are backlogged Kalroth |
| 14:14.29 | Kraps | hey isnt the highest amount of rage a warrior can get 120? |
| 14:14.35 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 14:14.59 | Kraps | whats this then http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/146971-glyph-of-the-executor#17153-17169 |
| 14:15.05 | Stanzilla | a placeholder |
| 14:15.21 | Kraps | yeah |
| 14:15.30 | Kraps | lol Glyph of the Subtle Defender - Removes the threat generation bonus from Defensive Stance. |
| 14:18.05 | Stanzilla | that is actually useful |
| 14:23.03 | phixion | I'm not sure how this can be usefull |
| 14:23.11 | phixion | call for comments! |
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| 14:48.24 | VIad | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUo1PgKksgw |
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| 15:03.51 | VIad | why no hackers at Defcon? it's awesome for recruitment if you ask me |
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| 15:54.18 | TC-Work | Hmm, good to note that the offline mode is designed to be indefinite. |
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| 15:54.28 | TC-Work | for steam |
| 16:01.30 | Maldivia | ? |
| 16:02.17 | TC-Work | It used to not last that long and there was post by a mod that offilne mode was limited to 2 weeks |
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| 16:05.16 | karl_w_w | i dont think it's ever been 2 weeks |
| 16:05.37 | karl_w_w | it was i think a month or 2 months |
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| 16:07.16 | karl_w_w | what time is it in steam land? |
| 16:07.22 | TC-Work | 9:07 AM |
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| 16:07.38 | karl_w_w | damn I thought they might use eastern |
| 16:08.06 | karl_w_w | I blame daylight savings |
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| 16:24.26 | pompy | ohh reaaallyy https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153024549980022&set=a.145889545021.235126.14696440021&type=1 |
| 16:27.54 | Fisker | if only i used facebook pompy |
| 16:30.50 | bluspacecow | "A respected tech authority just named the latest version of Firefox the “speed king” of all the browsers. Share this post and tell your friends in that Firefox is the fastest! http://mzl.la/18PVieo" |
| 16:30.56 | bluspacecow | https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q83/934610_10153024549980022_315006433_n.jpg |
| 16:32.43 | Fisker | shittiest browser of all browsers bluspacecow |
| 16:32.46 | Fisker | (except opera) |
| 16:32.52 | bluspacecow | kk |
| 16:32.58 | bluspacecow | which is why it is lolz |
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| 16:34.38 | Fisker | lies are never lolz bluspacecow |
| 16:45.49 | TC-Work | To be honest Fisker does indeed use facebook, as a target list. |
| 16:46.01 | bluspacecow | *tugs on Apron* |
| 16:46.10 | bluspacecow | BRB dishes |
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| 16:54.10 | kd3 | heh; a crowd singing along to bohemian rhapsody waiting for green day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw4PS4HO2Dw |
| 16:56.45 | Maldivia | that's awesome! |
| 16:57.32 | Ressy | Definitely.. A lot of those people probably grew up on it from their parents listening |
| 16:58.02 | Ressy | I know I did :) |
| 16:58.13 | kd3 | nods |
| 16:58.54 | Maldivia | I don't really know if it's encouraging to the band about to come on stage though :) |
| 16:59.05 | Maldivia | well, they know the audience is ON! |
| 17:01.06 | TC-Work | kek, the steam store is 503 |
| 17:01.12 | Maldivia | heh, yeah |
| 17:01.15 | pompy | yup lol |
| 17:01.17 | pompy | heavy load! |
| 17:01.23 | kd3 | I'm not even looking this year |
| 17:01.25 | kd3 | my backlog's atrocious |
| 17:01.26 | bluspacecow | *waves at Maldivia* |
| 17:01.35 | bluspacecow | mine too kd3 |
| 17:01.35 | pompy | come on Valve you had plenty of time to optimize your servers for these events! |
| 17:01.37 | pompy | :P |
| 17:01.44 | bluspacecow | soooooo many ios games to finish! |
| 17:01.46 | Maldivia | howdy bluspacecow :P |
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| 17:04.55 | pompy | sweet .. Steam Summer Getaway Badge |
| 17:05.49 | MysticalOS | can't login to ptr, error 2 :\ |
| 17:05.55 | MysticalOS | live is fine |
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| 17:07.14 | bluspacecow | me neither MysticalOS |
| 17:07.21 | bluspacecow | ninja maintaince maybe ? |
| 17:07.23 | kd3 | cripes. the freaking shack has gotten so much attention... http://i.imgur.com/uu2cOB7.gif |
| 17:07.43 | MysticalOS | during raid testing? |
| 17:07.55 | bluspacecow | for lolz ? |
| 17:08.12 | pompy | Fisker: how do you have those cards already haha |
| 17:08.15 | pompy | you too Ackis! |
| 17:08.29 | Fisker | we got them like a week ago pompy |
| 17:08.30 | Fisker | pls |
| 17:08.48 | pompy | hmmm |
| 17:09.02 | pompy | says you get them from purchasing stuff during the sale! |
| 17:09.10 | MysticalOS | ah they delayed it do to the login issue |
| 17:09.20 | Fisker | you got them from crafting badges as well |
| 17:09.33 | Fisker | for the last week |
| 17:09.34 | pompy | dohh, finally loaded |
| 17:09.41 | bluspacecow | ….. |
| 17:09.46 | bluspacecow | eh ohraggy |
| 17:09.54 | bluspacecow | telnet 12.129.236.251 1119 |
| 17:10.01 | bluspacecow | connection refused! |
| 17:10.02 | Fisker | why bluspacecow ? |
| 17:10.11 | bluspacecow | thats the PTR login server |
| 17:10.14 | Fisker | yes |
| 17:10.16 | Fisker | but why? |
| 17:10.17 | bluspacecow | it shouldn't be refusing me. |
| 17:10.49 | Fisker | i think it should |
| 17:10.50 | MysticalOS | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/9453685465#15 |
| 17:11.16 | Fisker | told you so |
| 17:11.51 | pompy | "As an additional reward for purchasing, for every $10 USD spent during the sale you'll get a Summer Getaway trading card." |
| 17:11.52 | pompy | ahh |
| 17:12.22 | pompy | "If you're Steam Level 5 and above, you'll get a card every third time you vote for theCommunity's Choice Flash Sale. If you reach Steam Level 5 before the end of the sale, you'll be granted the cards you earned by voting." |
| 17:13.02 | karl_w_w | i tried to vote on community choice and all that happened is a big banner came up that said Sorry |
| 17:13.13 | pompy | yar steam server overload |
| 17:13.22 | Fisker | didn't do that here |
| 17:17.55 | karl_w_w | all this trading card crap seems terribly convoluted |
| 17:20.34 | Parnic | fisker how the crap do you have so many summer getaway cards already |
| 17:21.27 | karl_w_w | Starting July 3rd, crafting a game badge earned you a "mystery card" rather than a coupon. These mystery cards are now Summer Getaway cards. So if you crafted a badge in the last week, you're already ahead of the game. During the sale, each game badge you craft will get you a Summer Getaway trading card. |
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| 17:21.53 | Fisker | got a skyrim card anyone? |
| 17:22.11 | karl_w_w | i haven't got any any card |
| 17:23.07 | Fisker | you are all terrible |
| 17:23.29 | karl_w_w | I'm glad you think so |
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| 17:26.02 | pompy | jerk |
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| 17:27.27 | kd3 | well. 10% off toki tori 2... x3. thanks steam. it'd be nice to stack them |
| 17:28.24 | Fisker | you can't stack any of them either way |
| 17:28.35 | zenzelezz | for a while I thought Steam had become a place for only trading card games |
| 17:28.52 | zenzelezz | "why are all these games just cards?" |
| 17:29.19 | Parnic | man...they're milking the crap out of these cards. you'll pay for the game, get half of the cards through playing, then buy the other half, then craft the card, which is a portion of the overall summer sale cards, which is... |
| 17:29.37 | Fisker | yes |
| 17:29.41 | Fisker | it's horrible Parnic |
| 17:29.44 | Parnic | it is |
| 17:29.53 | Fisker | it should actually be illegal |
| 17:30.36 | Parnic | what'd you vote for first? |
| 17:30.51 | Fisker | blands |
| 17:30.57 | Parnic | good man |
| 17:31.11 | TC-Work | same seeing as I own all of them anyway |
| 17:32.44 | karl_w_w | ivoted dishonoured because I'm cool |
| 17:33.01 | Parnic | who wants a key for free blands dlc and isn't karl_w_w? |
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| 17:33.47 | Fisker | lol |
| 17:33.52 | Fisker | who would want that+ |
| 17:34.07 | Parnic | shrugs |
| 17:34.47 | Parnic | apparently no one |
| 17:34.54 | karl_w_w | i swear to god i can never remember my steam login |
| 17:34.59 | Fisker | i want a skyrim card |
| 17:35.08 | Parnic | so pay valve more money, fisker |
| 17:35.28 | karl_w_w | u get cards for voting |
| 17:35.33 | Fisker | Cards should be replaced with "Additional cost after purchasing game" |
| 17:35.34 | Fisker | :'( |
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| 17:41.46 | Taborious | I creating an addon and I have several dropdown menus within it. I created those using a loop and assigned individual names to each of them. Later in the addon I need to cycle through them to get the values but how do I assign the name to a variable...more |
| 17:44.03 | cogwheel | put them in a table |
| 17:44.10 | Semlar | i'll put you in a table |
| 17:44.17 | cogwheel | i'll put your mom on a table |
| 17:44.25 | Semlar | why did you have to go there |
| 17:44.28 | Taborious | One of the names is Column1o2 so first column second dropdownbox. I want to get the value of that DDM and I need to cycle through all of them. I can do var1 = Column1o2; var1:GetValue() |
| 17:44.34 | cogwheel | my coworkers are a bad influence |
| 17:44.35 | cogwheel | <.< |
| 17:45.16 | Semlar | why do var1 = Column1o2 instead of just Column1o2:GetValue() |
| 17:45.36 | Taborious | because I need to pull values from 20 DDMs |
| 17:46.23 | Taborious | i want to write a loop, not 20 calls |
| 17:47.02 | Semlar | you're trying to create the name of the object inside the loop |
| 17:47.09 | Taborious | if it comes down to it I can do that, doesnt seem like the best way but it would work |
| 17:47.29 | Taborious | im trying to create a reference to the DDM inside the loop |
| 17:47.31 | Semlar | you just do _G['Column' .. i .. 'o' .. j] or something |
| 17:48.22 | Taborious | so _G['Column'..i..'o'..j]:GetValue() ? |
| 17:48.47 | Semlar | assuming i and j are the variables in your loop |
| 17:48.50 | Taborious | that would be the proper syntax |
| 17:49.04 | Taborious | perfect, ill give it a shot, TY |
| 17:49.14 | Semlar | and assuming it's a global variable |
| 17:49.45 | Semlar | like Column1o2 is the global name |
| 17:49.49 | Taborious | i believe so, we will find out in a min |
| 17:51.03 | Taborious | does it make a difference when quoting with single ' or double " |
| 17:51.09 | Semlar | no |
| 17:51.28 | Semlar | the only time it matters is if you want to use quotes inside of your string |
| 17:52.06 | alestane | The two quotes for the string have to match. |
| 17:52.20 | Semlar | so if your string is "don't" you can't use single quotes because it would stop at the apostrophe |
| 17:52.31 | zenzelezz | dear god, tell me there's no language that lets you open and close with different quotes o_O |
| 17:52.38 | zenzelezz | not even PHP |
| 17:52.42 | alestane | And as Semlar says, you can use single quotes in a double-quoted string, or double quotes in a single-quoted string, without escaping. |
| 17:53.18 | alestane | That would be pretty wacky, zenzelezz, although GML comes close. |
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| 18:06.07 | TC-Work | "Infant - Under Age 1 must be ticketed (at adult ticket price)" at first I thought that was a dick move. Then I realized it keeps babies out, and I like it. |
| 18:08.32 | zenzelezz | indeed |
| 18:11.16 | Dagmar | Before age two can they even focus their damn eyes on the screen at that distance? |
| 18:13.03 | TC-Work | Doesnt matter, people bring babies into movies like asshats all the time. |
| 18:13.51 | TC-Work | You are a parent, you have to make sacrifices, get that baby the fuck out of my theater. |
| 18:14.13 | bluspacecow | like people that leave their cell phones on during a movie |
| 18:14.17 | bluspacecow | or not on silent mode |
| 18:14.19 | bluspacecow | GRRRRRR |
| 18:14.39 | Dagmar | Whatever happened to just using a burlap sack and a ceiling fan on the lowest setting? |
| 18:15.02 | bluspacecow | i was bored of that when I was 8 months old |
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| 18:15.14 | TC-Work | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:17.02 | Semlar | without inheriting a template, does anyone know what the bare minimum is to make an editbox work |
| 18:17.24 | Semlar | it just seems to be stealing focus and then not accepting any key presses |
| 18:18.50 | Semlar | the only thing i've done to it is given it dimensions and called EnableKeyboard which doesn't appear to make any difference |
| 18:19.23 | Semlar | maybe it needs a font.. |
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| 18:20.16 | Arrow|phone | I need to rant for my sanity |
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| 18:22.16 | Kraps | go |
| 18:22.39 | Arrow|phone | I'm at the mortgage office 2 days this week and no other time soon. So on Monday somebody cancels their Tuesday appointment. On Thursday I'm 20 minutes late because I was dropping my car off for an oil change and their system was messed up from power outage |
| 18:24.05 | Arrow|phone | So I get here and call appointment 1. No answer so leave voicemail saying call me asap. I call back a few more times for 1.5 hours and 2nd appointment isn't here yet |
| 18:25.18 | Arrow|phone | Try 2 find something else to do and app1 emails manager saying I never showed. Finally get back and started on 8am app at 10am |
| 18:27.28 | Arrow|phone | Things go wrong and have to delay 1pm app. Finally had to tell morning app that I can't finish the job today because I have to wait for somebody else to fix stuff on her account so she can have ms access |
| 18:28.39 | Arrow|phone | Get to 1pm app at 2pm. Lady doesn't put anything on network share and has 8+ GB for me to transfer with our slow ass tool |
| 18:29.22 | Arrow|phone | My Wednesday was just as bad but at a different location |
| 18:30.53 | Arrow|phone | 3 appointment's with 2 noshows and the 3rd couldn't be completed because he had 35 fucking gigs to transfer and his old laptop was fucked on IO and not even starting the transfers |
| 18:31.24 | Arrow|phone | Getting nothing at all fucking done this week |
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| 18:33.47 | Arrow|phone | Just getting the transfer of that 8gb started now. It will probably take 2 hours to finish |
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| 18:46.06 | zenzelezz | "Steam Summer Service Unavailable", always fun. Because I MUST have things the first hour! |
| 18:46.31 | TC-Work | Yea, they might run out of coppies! |
| 18:47.02 | zenzelezz | I'd "lol" at that, but seeing how some digital games have had limited number digital sales... |
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| 18:47.46 | TC-Work | Copies* |
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| 18:50.08 | Arrow|phone | Oh the sale started? |
| 18:51.24 | TC-Work | Si |
| 18:51.55 | Arrow|phone | Mobile client uses steam guard... |
| 18:53.04 | zenzelezz | why the ...? |
| 18:54.28 | Arrow|phone | I managed to login but salepages are blank |
| 19:00.29 | pompy | very slow, 503ing and shit. |
| 19:01.54 | Arrow|phone | I managed to vote |
| 19:02.15 | Arrow|phone | Nothing I see on sale I want right now |
| 19:02.47 | Arrow|phone | Can't remember if I already have DA:O |
| 19:02.49 | TC-Work | Welcome to the clube |
| 19:02.51 | TC-Work | club* |
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| 19:03.52 | Arrow|phone | I didn't see the general sales on mobile |
| 19:05.04 | bluspacecow | sleep tiems. |
| 19:05.38 | Arrow|phone | $36 for skyrim.... Still too much for me |
| 19:06.12 | pompy | thats the leg ed tho, with all the dlc + base game |
| 19:06.17 | Dagmar | There'll be plenty of days for it to go 75% off, and it will. |
| 19:06.25 | TC-Work | Maybe |
| 19:07.13 | Arrow|phone | I'm not going to play it anytime soon so it needs to be cheap |
| 19:07.26 | pompy | idk, bethesda never really does 75% off! lol. |
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| 19:08.57 | Dagmar | Oh yes they do |
| 19:10.37 | Dagmar | IIRC that's how I've gotten parts of Fallout |
| 19:11.02 | TC-Work | Arrow|phone: that's because you can't |
| 19:11.18 | Arrow|phone | I got the publisher set pre skyrim |
| 19:12.17 | Mr_Rabies | i'm not buying bioshock or dishonored until i can get the GOTY editions for about $30 for each |
| 19:12.26 | Mr_Rabies | or less |
| 19:12.31 | pompy | "Notice: Fallout 3 is not optimized for Windows 7" |
| 19:12.33 | pompy | jerks! |
| 19:13.00 | Arrow|phone | Got BioShock on Xbox and season pass |
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| 19:13.21 | Arrow|phone | Has anything been released for inf yet? |
| 19:13.26 | Mr_Rabies | i don't believe in season passes and i'm pretty much done with dlc |
| 19:13.37 | TC-Work | I assure you, they exist |
| 19:13.42 | zenzelezz | what is a season pass? |
| 19:14.07 | TC-Work | buy a bunch of DLC's upfront at once |
| 19:14.21 | Arrow|phone | I only got it for BioShock cuz I wanted the bonuses |
| 19:14.22 | TC-Work | get them when they release |
| 19:14.29 | zenzelezz | oh, I see |
| 19:14.36 | pompy | Arrow|phone: http://store.steampowered.com/app/214933/ ? |
| 19:15.53 | Arrow|phone | What about it |
| 19:16.06 | Arrow|phone | I'm on a fucking phone |
| 19:16.26 | TC-Work | Calm down Arrow|phone |
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| 19:19.08 | Mr_Rabies | i'll just get the GOTY, lol $80 for one game |
| 19:19.31 | Mr_Rabies | $30 is pretty much my max, and that is including all dlc |
| 19:19.57 | Arrow|phone | bought the ultimate songbird box |
| 19:20.38 | Fisker | there are phones for fucking? |
| 19:20.47 | TC-Work | Fisker: yes actually |
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| 19:20.51 | Arrow|phone | Yes |
| 19:21.03 | TC-Work | Arrow|phone: refering to the card book? |
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| 19:21.14 | TC-Work | referring* |
| 19:21.20 | Arrow|phone | No |
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| 19:28.44 | Arrow|phone | Who thought a CPU limited network data transfer tool was a good idea |
| 19:29.03 | cogwheel | cryptographers? |
| 19:29.32 | Arrow|phone | I don't think it encrypts |
| 19:31.09 | TC-Work | 3 jobs I have applied to at the same company have been cancelled >.< |
| 19:31.39 | Arrow|phone | Looking for a new job? |
| 19:31.46 | TC-Work | Yes |
| 19:33.08 | TC-Work | I do like it here but the only room for growth is - |
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| 19:38.57 | zenzelezz | what kind of work is it you do? |
| 19:40.36 | TC-Work | IT |
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| 19:49.01 | Fisker | internets TC-Work ? |
| 19:49.13 | TC-Work | yes Fisker, yes. |
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| 19:51.44 | Fisker | oh wow |
| 19:51.51 | iShirik | I know |
| 19:51.53 | Fisker | Google needs to start a smear campaign :D |
| 19:51.55 | Fisker | http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/11/microsoft-nsa-collaboration-user-data |
| 19:52.18 | iShirik | Except google was involved too |
| 19:52.39 | znf | The Steam Store is experiencing some heavy load right now. Please try again later. |
| 19:52.39 | znf | ZzzZzzz |
| 19:53.04 | Fisker | no evidence iShirik |
| 19:57.35 | batrick | did Shirik forsake M$ for apple? |
| 19:59.30 | zenzelezz | you know... I understand people not liking Microsoft, but using the "M$" feels like something we did when we were 14. It just invalidates any other point if used in a conversation |
| 20:00.09 | Fisker | don't you mean like ؋₱₱l€? |
| 20:00.14 | cogwheel | $en$ele$$ |
| 20:00.50 | zenzelezz | cogwheel: that's even worse than the Z-s. Those are also a left-over from when we were 14, and using Z for S was super cool |
| 20:00.59 | zenzelezz | but I don't like changing nicks, so it stuck :-| |
| 20:01.02 | cogwheel | hehe |
| 20:01.29 | Fisker | ¢o₲₩h£€l |
| 20:01.40 | Fisker | didn't you work for that tiny co thingy? |
| 20:01.46 | zenzelezz | Fisker, you noob |
| 20:01.50 | cogwheel | ya |
| 20:01.51 | zenzelezz | should be €, not £ |
| 20:01.59 | znf | at least you're not znzlzz |
| 20:01.59 | Fisker | i saw you +1'd your own game |
| 20:02.00 | zenzelezz | double-€ I mean |
| 20:02.13 | Fisker | totally justifies my currency conversion of your nick |
| 20:02.18 | zenzelezz | znf: thank god I never got into that kind of writing =D |
| 20:02.21 | Fisker | i used both for flavour zenzelezz |
| 20:02.28 | znf | Did anyone manage to buy anything off Steam? |
| 20:02.35 | Fisker | yes |
| 20:02.37 | znf | I keep getting "There seems to have been an error initializing or updating your transaction." |
| 20:02.48 | Fisker | sucks to be you |
| 20:03.12 | Fisker | you're missing quite a few currency signs though znf |
| 20:03.25 | Taborious | im writing an addon which has frames, When wow loads the frames show before I call :show(), do they show by default when they are created? |
| 20:03.42 | Semlar | yep |
| 20:03.45 | Arrow|phone | Yes |
| 20:03.50 | zenzelezz | Fisker: here you go ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ |
| 20:03.56 | Semlar | frames are visible by default |
| 20:04.01 | batrick | zenzelezz: putting a $ there easily communicates me distaste for proprietary software and the bullshit microsoft puts developers through |
| 20:04.10 | Taborious | is there anyway to stop that |
| 20:04.15 | Semlar | call :Hide() |
| 20:04.48 | zenzelezz | batrick: like I said, I could typically agree to most of that, but the $ just negates it all for me. It's like resorting to "yo mama" |
| 20:05.21 | batrick | w/e |
| 20:07.15 | batrick | looks like we won't know the answer to my question |
| 20:07.17 | batrick | qq |
| 20:07.57 | Fisker | M$ didn't appropriately communicate to me that it was specifically distaste for proprietary software and "bullshit" microsoft puts developers through |
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| 20:08.06 | Fisker | I'm not sure how Bli$$ard is any different |
| 20:08.17 | Fisker | pretty proprietary and pretty bullshit they put developers through |
| 20:08.31 | Fisker | they are truly the hitler of game companies |
| 20:08.34 | zenzelezz | "Bli$$ard" is even worse, as I don't know what "blissard" would be |
| 20:08.57 | Fisker | i'm obvious trolling right now to make a point zenzelezz |
| 20:09.04 | Semlar | i believe it's pronounced blidoubledollarard |
| 20:09.13 | zenzelezz | you're always trolling to make points; I'm just too dim to catch them all |
| 20:10.04 | Fisker | if i'd hate Microsoft for anything it would rather be the marketing rhetoric they use |
| 20:10.51 | Fisker | that and the way they act in terms of license/patent disputes |
| 20:11.08 | Fisker | they just told us we were quite obviously atleast owing them like 300k euro |
| 20:11.12 | Fisker | in licensing fees |
| 20:11.18 | Fisker | and since we refused they wanted to audit us |
| 20:11.21 | Fisker | end result: |
| 20:11.51 | Fisker | We had 1 server unlicensed and 3 copies of visio unlicensed (we had license for a better version, but the media included both and installed the worse version automatically) |
| 20:11.56 | Fisker | in the end they got 0€ |
| 20:12.02 | Fisker | and we uninstalled 3 copies of visio |
| 20:12.10 | znf | Fisker, did you bend over and showed them your asshole instead? |
| 20:12.11 | Fisker | and deleted a server we never used |
| 20:12.35 | znf | and give them instructions on how to kiss it? |
| 20:14.11 | Fisker | I found it quite hilarious that the person from the "neutral third party" conducting the audit was suddenly hired by microsoft a few months into the audit |
| 20:14.44 | nebula169 | the audit took months? |
| 20:14.56 | Fisker | yep |
| 20:14.59 | Fisker | almost half a year |
| 20:15.31 | nebula169 | sounds woinderful |
| 20:15.42 | znf | uhm, why does it take that much? |
| 20:16.07 | zenzelezz | it's Fisker... you know he'd mess with them any chance he got |
| 20:16.36 | znf | I would, too. |
| 20:17.00 | znf | Fisker, also, how does this audit thing work? I'm curious. How do they just decide "I'm gonna audit your ass"? What are the legal grounds for that? |
| 20:17.17 | znf | Do you have some sort of contract that allows them to perform an audit? |
| 20:17.39 | Fisker | the first couple of months they were basically data collecting |
| 20:17.46 | Fisker | to make sure we weren't turning off servers and shit |
| 20:18.07 | Fisker | i wasn't involved in the audit itself though |
| 20:18.16 | batrick | Fisker: wtf? Blizzard doesn't have a software platform. |
| 20:18.18 | Fisker | so don't know more than the fact they claimed we owed them tons and got away with nothing |
| 20:19.16 | Fisker | do you not consider yourself a developer of wow addons? |
| 20:19.19 | batrick | no |
| 20:19.20 | nebula169 | batrick: it's called wow |
| 20:19.32 | Fisker | ok |
| 20:19.34 | Fisker | but other people do |
| 20:20.36 | batrick | and that doesn't change any of what I said |
| 20:20.52 | batrick | M$ has been in use for a long time |
| 20:21.38 | batrick | if you want to convolute its historical meaning with your experiences, that's your prerogative |
| 20:21.52 | Fisker | so has nigger |
| 20:22.10 | Fisker | if you want to convolute its historical meaning with your experiences, that's your prerogative |
| 20:22.37 | batrick | you really are a skid mark of this channel aren't you |
| 20:22.46 | Fisker | not at all |
| 20:23.04 | Fisker | You use one childish remark because it's been in use for a long time |
| 20:23.13 | Fisker | other people use other childish remarks because it's been in use for a long time |
| 20:23.33 | Fisker | longevity is not an excuse |
| 20:24.17 | znf | Fisker, so how are they data-collecting? Describe me the process, I'm curious |
| 20:24.31 | Fisker | it was some huge-ass vbscript |
| 20:24.35 | Fisker | doing lots of wmi calls and shit |
| 20:24.54 | Fisker | never got a chance to study it in detail |
| 20:24.58 | znf | So it's being run on every computer on your domain? |
| 20:25.09 | Fisker | no it was run from a single computer |
| 20:25.17 | Fisker | running day and night |
| 20:25.26 | znf | Hmmm, so how does it figure out if you have an extra server that you didn't pay for? |
| 20:25.34 | Fisker | it doesn't |
| 20:25.39 | Fisker | it just compiles a report on what you got |
| 20:25.51 | znf | So how does it figure out what you have? |
| 20:26.00 | znf | Just scans the network? Sniffs the traffic? |
| 20:26.01 | Fisker | well it sees a server |
| 20:26.05 | Fisker | so that's a license for a server |
| 20:26.27 | Fisker | And it looks for installed software and such to see if there's any licensed software as well |
| 20:26.46 | Fisker | and basically they just take those reports and manually compare that to the information they have on our licenses |
| 20:26.50 | znf | So, again, what are the legal grounds for that? |
| 20:26.58 | Fisker | i have no idea |
| 20:27.07 | znf | oh :-( |
| 20:27.07 | znf | ok |
| 20:27.24 | Fisker | I guess it's one of those "Either you let us do this, or we call our lawyers" kind of things |
| 20:28.31 | Arrow|phone | I would have gone with the lawyers |
| 20:28.34 | Fisker | I guess it's kind of similar to the patent litigations :P |
| 20:28.46 | Fisker | It would've been much more expensive Arrow|phone |
| 20:32.12 | Fisker | it's funny though |
| 20:32.21 | Fisker | they've used the same tactics for patents |
| 20:32.47 | Fisker | tell companies they owe x in patent licensing, and only tell what patents they are after they've paid and signed an NDA |
| 20:33.39 | Mr_Rabies | they really should make getting to isle of thunder easier :| |
| 20:33.45 | Mr_Rabies | it takes forever to fly there |
| 20:33.57 | Mr_Rabies | you can't tell me all those mages can't open a portal in shrine? :( |
| 20:34.19 | kd3 | my hearth is set to the shado-pan garrison so I can get there in ~30s from anywhere |
| 20:34.41 | kd3 | it helps that I play a mage >.> |
| 20:35.48 | Kesava | cheater |
| 20:41.24 | znf | Your servers are bad and you should feel bad, Steam :-( |
| 20:42.56 | batrick | is hearth still 30 minute cooldown? |
| 20:44.08 | batrick | i guess so |
| 20:44.52 | Mr_Rabies | 15 with the guild perk |
| 20:54.18 | Stanzilla | 8 with the arch. item |
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| 21:02.59 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/VxuR750.jpg does that look okay |
| 21:03.56 | TC-Work | I think the fonts should be the same size, but that's just me. |
| 21:04.22 | Semlar | well, i want the edit box to be obviously separated from the rest |
| 21:05.29 | Semlar | i think i might turn the alpha up on the model |
| 21:05.36 | Dagmar | So maybe make it's background barely visible white |
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| 21:22.41 | bleeter | kd3: dunno if you heard, but https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2013-July/003174.html :( |
| 21:22.52 | kd3 | seth? yah, :( |
| 21:23.23 | bleeter | rhethorical: What I wanna know is why is always the good folks instead of arseholes like me... |
| 21:24.04 | zenzelezz | it happens to arseholes too, but no-one cares to make a fuzz about it |
| 21:27.20 | bleeter | well looks like they've got the driver in the hit n run so that's something |
| 21:29.06 | Dagmar | If they rule it an accident we should burn that city to the ground |
| 21:29.35 | Dagmar | ...because when you drive your car *off the road* to try and get around *traffic*, it's not by accident. |
| 21:29.40 | bleeter | http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=9166340 |
| 21:29.55 | bleeter | if you're driving with a revoked license, nothing is an accident |
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| 21:30.57 | pnorman | well, more you're presumed to be at fault in some circumstances |
| 21:31.43 | Semlar | i think perhaps burning the city to the ground is a little extreme |
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| 21:33.17 | Dagmar | Semlar: It might be the only thing that can stop Poettering. |
| 21:33.26 | kd3 | hahaha |
| 21:34.11 | Arrow|phone | Its 5:30 and I'm still at work doing that data transfer |
| 21:34.27 | Arrow|phone | Yah 10 hour work day |
| 21:35.13 | znf | Arrowmaster, I've been at work since 11am |
| 21:35.16 | znf | it's now 00:35 |
| 21:36.05 | Arrow|phone | I think the building is supposed to be closed now |
| 21:37.03 | Arrow|phone | znf: was your day at least productive? Mine isnt |
| 21:37.36 | znf | Arrowmaster, not really, I've been pushing some papers for like 2 hours around, aimlessly correcting them and trying to get them signed by my boss |
| 21:38.10 | znf | At least we're open 24 hours, so meh |
| 21:38.26 | znf | heck, I've spent at least 1 hour having lunch/dinner |
| 21:38.38 | znf | and I've probably spent like 5 hours on the phone |
| 21:38.47 | Arrow|phone | I sat and waited 2 hours to begin my first job of the day because she wouldn't answer her damn phone |
| 21:39.10 | znf | Whenever I started doing something productive, my phone rang. Then when I hanged up, it rang again... |
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| 21:39.17 | znf | At a point, all 3 phones rang... I was like WTF? |
| 21:39.38 | kd3 | world+dog went "Must talk to znf now"? |
| 21:40.25 | znf | so I did the most sane thing - put down all phones, went to have dinner |
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| 21:42.36 | bleeter | pnorman: true, it comes down to per-jurisdiction rules (at least here in .au) |
| 21:42.48 | bleeter | tackle hugs MentalPower |
| 21:43.10 | TC-Work | creepy |
| 21:43.24 | znf | There seems to have been an error initializing or updating your transaction. |
| 21:43.26 | znf | god damn it |
| 21:43.26 | znf | :-/ |
| 21:43.44 | TC-Work | unless it is a flash sale you have 20 hours |
| 21:43.51 | TC-Work | or something |
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| 21:45.53 | MentalPower | bleeter! |
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| 22:02.00 | znf | TC-Work, flash sale :-/ |
| 22:02.21 | znf | meh, and when I make it trough, I get "your credit card information has been declined by your credit card company" |
| 22:02.49 | znf | oh come on... I might be broke, but I'm sure I have 1€ on my account! |
| 22:03.18 | tlund | perhaps there is more than one reason to decline a transaction besides not having enough funds? |
| 22:03.46 | znf | I'd be pretty pissed if there would be another reason, considering I just replaced the card last month.. |
| 22:03.50 | kd3 | the fraud alert went off? if you haven't bought anything from steam before, then today, you start buying all the things |
| 22:04.02 | znf | kd3, I have over 40 games on my account, so... |
| 22:04.29 | kd3 | s/before/recently/ |
| 22:06.13 | zenzelezz | znf: I got that a few times before it finally went through |
| 22:07.35 | znf | zenzelezz, the bank decline? |
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| 22:09.14 | zenzelezz | znf: it claimed so, but it went through eventually. Had to try quite a few times, with a mix of "credit card company declined" and "lulz unspecified problem happened" |
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| 22:10.26 | zenzelezz | looking at the log, it failed six times before it finally went through |
| 22:11.12 | znf | zzzz, "working..." for like 1 minute |
| 22:11.13 | znf | then declined |
| 22:11.26 | zenzelezz | yup, my experience exactly |
| 22:11.41 | znf | then error, try again when I, well... try again |
| 22:12.06 | znf | does someone have 1.99€ in their steam wallet? :D |
| 22:12.16 | zenzelezz | I ended up waiting 10-15 minutes between attempts (because the "declined" made me wonder if the bank was actively suspicious) |
| 22:12.31 | znf | pfft, heavy load |
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| 22:18.32 | bleeter | what I'm enjoying is how I have to uncheck 'agree to t&c' to get the steam client to believe I've checked it |
| 22:20.27 | zenzelezz | well, everything is reversed in Australia you know |
| 22:20.51 | bleeter | no, it's reversed everywhere else dumbdumb!!!11!! |
| 22:21.21 | zenzelezz | quite possibly, but the net result is the same |
| 22:21.29 | zenzelezz | you have to uncheck what we have to check |
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| 22:28.03 | Neffi | Mirosoft's claims that Bing doesn't track you got a whole lot shallower: http://goo.gl/8kULK |
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| 22:28.10 | Neffi | "NSA taps Skype chats, newly published Snowden leaks confirm" |
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| 22:28.19 | Neffi | "Microsoft worked with the government, producing both chats and e-mails." |
| 22:32.23 | Unkle | So for all of those who've ever used Skype to "keep up relations" with a distant loved one... the NSA has seen you naked. |
| 22:33.19 | Semlar-Laptop | i feel sorry for anyone monitoring my skype conversations |
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| 22:42.06 | zenzelezz | go read (the RSS thing) seems confused sometimes. It'll show new items fine, but they'll not be properly sorted. Looks like it might be in particular Youtube's feeds |
| 22:42.22 | zenzelezz | wonder if they use some untypical date/time format |
| 22:44.07 | Neffi | I think it's more significant that (if this is to be believed), all contents of Outlook emails/chat and SkyDrive files were monitored by PRISM |
| 22:44.31 | Neffi | Outlook consistently tries to be a business-oriented service and people expect a high quality of privacy from it (even if they are naive to expect that) |
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| 22:50.03 | karl_w_w | atypical |
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| 23:54.19 | TC-Work | Yay, fixing things I know nothing about. That is why I don't get fired despite all the amazing amount of shit I give my boss. |
