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| 02:57.04 | Adys | ~wowalert |
| 02:57.04 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 02:58.46 | Adys | what |
| 02:58.46 | Adys | We will be performing scheduled maintenance beginning on Thursday, June 27, at 05:00 CEST |
| 02:58.50 | Adys | thursday? |
| 02:59.37 | kd3 | doing weds maintenance for the us |
| 03:00.06 | Adys | since when? |
| 03:00.15 | kd3 | just popped up on the alert |
| 03:13.45 | fewyn | yeah |
| 03:13.51 | fewyn | i bet it's for the security issue stuff |
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| 04:04.12 | Grivvel | fewyn: What security issue stuff? |
| 04:04.40 | fewyn | i'd link you the post |
| 04:04.49 | fewyn | but the wowhead car is currently on fire |
| 04:05.02 | fewyn | http://www.wowhead.com/news=215402/account-security-warning-mobile-armory-and-battle-net-website |
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| 04:12.23 | kd3 | wowhead car? |
| 04:12.30 | kd3 | oh, eesh |
| 04:12.47 | kd3 | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/10310774/Account_Security_Warning-6_24_2013 |
| 04:18.27 | Kaylin | I basically got blown off by an MVP, I feel so enlightened with how my future posts should be worded in order to be recognized within the community. I think I'll just TL;DR everything from now on. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/9377257683 |
| 04:20.24 | Kaylin | Also hello everyone |
| 04:20.26 | Kaylin | I am back. |
| 04:27.08 | Fisker | those anti-domain sniping rules suck when you're trying to snipe domain |
| 04:27.13 | Fisker | a domain* |
| 04:27.44 | Neffi | At least one player wrote that their accounts were compromised and gold lost via the AH even though they had an authenticator (and a difficult password) |
| 04:28.16 | Neffi | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/9344634977?page=1 |
| 04:28.28 | Neffi | Probably Android malware hijacking the authenticator app? |
| 04:28.54 | Fisker | or lies |
| 04:29.47 | Neffi | A few people lying could be likely, but there are multiple reports, and Blizzard responded by disabling the mobile AH |
| 04:29.52 | Neffi | Obviously something did happen. |
| 04:30.30 | Neffi | A rooted Android phone could easily have its authenticator app compromised if the user was careless with the wrong piece of software |
| 04:34.31 | Neffi | If you look at the promoted comment on the Ars article, somebody is claiming to have alrted Blizz to a potential exploit allowing exactly this type of compromise to occur, back during the beta of the mobile AH |
| 04:34.33 | Neffi | http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/06/world-of-warcraft-mobile-auctions-closed-after-rash-of-account-hijacks/ |
| 05:02.28 | Dagmar | Neffi: THat's a very valid theory |
| 05:03.04 | Dagmar | THere was also that wonderful exynos exploit and a few others |
| 05:05.04 | Dagmar | ...and I've seen _several_ really sketchy app stores blatantly pirating the fuck out of everything |
| 05:06.14 | Fisker | I should sue blizzard |
| 05:06.25 | Fisker | they wrote maintenance on the login screen |
| 05:06.30 | Fisker | but it was just realm restarts |
| 05:06.40 | Fisker | now i can't do shit before i have to work |
| 05:07.53 | Fisker | getting actual information to blizzard developers is hard |
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| 05:08.14 | Fisker | Also had to basically get a CM to forward it directly for me |
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| 06:10.51 | karl_w_w | anyone know a good font website? |
| 06:11.03 | karl_w_w | I know we were looking at fonts in here a few months ago |
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| 06:13.40 | Kaylin | Helvetica says hi. but in any case can you explain? like a website that uses a good font for displaying their text and titles? or logos? or a website to download fonts? I have no resources for any of this but I could search and it might help others who might help you. |
| 06:14.08 | karl_w_w | for downloading fonts |
| 06:14.20 | karl_w_w | I remember there was a great database of them |
| 06:15.13 | karl_w_w | which categorised them by style and so on |
| 06:16.19 | Dagmar | There are literally dozens of websites for that |
| 06:16.56 | Dagmar | They're the internet equivalent of disposable matches. |
| 06:18.17 | karl_w_w | Yeah, but this one was actually good at it :P |
| 06:18.26 | End | well now you're being picky |
| 06:18.50 | End | oh I guess you started out saying you wanted a good one |
| 06:19.39 | End | well I don't really know anything offhand that wouldn't be found after a google search |
| 06:20.13 | End | (although now it occurs to me google has their own font database, but I think it targets web fonts) |
| 06:20.15 | Dagmar | That's generally all I do--hit up GOogle for a few. |
| 06:20.46 | Dagmar | Yeah they have a little repo of fonts explciitly for use in websites, tuned to not suck on screens |
| 06:21.01 | End | yeah with woff links |
| 06:21.03 | Dagmar | It's sort of hit-or-miss on the last part tho |
| 06:21.29 | End | probably not what he's looking for |
| 06:21.32 | Mr_Rabies | karl_w_w: http://www.dafont.com/ is pretty legit as far as i know |
| 06:21.50 | Mr_Rabies | it seems they go through the proper channels to make sure free fonts are actually free, etc |
| 06:22.06 | Mr_Rabies | lookalikes are a different story, i'm sure, though |
| 06:24.02 | Dagmar | THey are. It was ruled long ago that trade restrictions on fonts would basically mean stifling the fucking alphabet, so you can clone a typeface, but the font files themselves are the only copyrightable part |
| 06:24.28 | Dagmar | It pays to pull a lot of the knockoff fonts into a font editor and look at them closely. |
| 06:24.47 | Dagmar | Some people just print out a spec sheet for a commercial font, and then scan it in and run a tracer over it |
| 06:25.27 | Dagmar | ...and never, ever think about simplifying the outline correctly, so you get otherwise straightforward glyphs that perform like shit because they involve 100+ nodes for no good fucking reason |
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| 06:45.15 | pnorman | https://www.google.com/fonts/ has a decent range of fonts |
| 06:46.24 | Mr_Rabies | dafont has a lot of fonts, but google has generally only fonts that you'd want to use for anything other than your livejournal |
| 06:51.10 | pnorman | uses an old-fashioned keychain authenticator |
| 06:52.06 | pnorman | hrm. when did they introduce these? I might want to switch authenticators, the battery might be getting old |
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| 07:07.17 | Mr_Rabies | the battery's lifetime is expected to be about 7 years |
| 07:07.43 | Mr_Rabies | probably more now that they're used generally a few times a weej |
| 07:07.45 | Mr_Rabies | k |
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| 07:13.52 | Mr_Rabies | looks like 2007-2008 is when they came out, pnorman |
| 07:14.07 | Mr_Rabies | the second edition released was at blizzcon 2008 |
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| 07:54.27 | karl_w_w | thanks pnorman, it was the google one I was thinking of |
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| 09:08.02 | Neffi | pnorman, if you look quick you might swear your name is pornman |
| 09:08.18 | Neffi | I've been imagining some dude who really loves porn that much that he calls himself pornman |
| 09:22.55 | karl_w_w | You're clearly a guy who thinks about porn a lot |
| 09:23.43 | Semlar | reeeeedundant |
| 09:32.02 | Neffi | =| |
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| 11:30.44 | Stanzilla | I read "emailed me cancer" |
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| 12:12.04 | Neffi | function topic_out_of_date_see_new_one_here() return topic_out_of_date_see_new_one_here() end <-- every forum contains this |
| 12:19.54 | Maldivia | ... ok |
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| 12:59.45 | karl_w_w | Shirik: the closing admin on the title change just counted the votes instead of looking at the arguments :( |
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| 13:29.56 | Kraps | karl_w_w: link? |
| 13:40.33 | karl_w_w | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sega_Genesis#RFC:_.22Sega_Mega_Drive.22_or_.22Sega_Genesis.22_as_the_article_title.3F |
| 13:43.17 | Neffi | Holy shit, the 10th doctor married his daughter |
| 13:43.43 | karl_w_w | the arguments are almost all either refuted or "it has been discussed before and can't possibly change" |
| 13:44.10 | karl_w_w | the keep arguments that is |
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| 14:06.09 | nevcairiel | Neffi: ..? |
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| 14:07.29 | nevcairiel | oh you mean in real life |
| 14:07.57 | Kaylin | 5-4: DOMA is unconstitutional as a deprivation of the equal liberty of persons that is protected by the Fifth Amendment. http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/12-307_g2bh.pdf |
| 14:12.13 | Neffi | yes |
| 14:13.13 | nevcairiel | she was kinda cool in that one episode, too |
| 14:14.28 | Neffi | Aye, I sorta wished they kept her on for a little bit |
| 14:14.33 | Neffi | Mostly because she was damn sexy |
| 14:15.44 | Cidan | Kaylin, sadly, it looks like they are going to dismiss on prop 8 |
| 14:16.04 | Cidan | we'll see. |
| 14:18.01 | nevcairiel | Neffi: that she was, too |
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| 14:39.17 | Kaylin | Yea, good for Cali but I was hoping a decision for the whole country. Marriage is legal where I am too but I want all couples to have that right. :( |
| 14:43.11 | Ressy | Unfortunately, there's too many religious people who want to force their views on others in positions of power down in the US. |
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| 14:44.12 | Kaylin | Bigoted* you can be religious without the hate and you can hate without being religious, I've known some atheists who are against marriage equality |
| 14:45.52 | Thunder_Child | Was it for the same reason? |
| 14:46.47 | Kaylin | They didn't think it was natural, so probably, nothing about god but yea. No reproductive benefit, like all people can have kids or that's the point of marriage anyway. |
| 14:47.07 | Kaylin | *eyeroll* |
| 14:48.47 | nebula169 | marriage is a religious construct, i really wish it would go away |
| 14:49.03 | nebula169 | the language, that is |
| 14:49.30 | nebula169 | leave all the legal shennigans attached to civil union |
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| 15:19.32 | Maldivia | well, congrats to CA and the rest of the US as well |
| 15:19.46 | Lopeppeppy | does a little dance. |
| 15:21.38 | zenzelezz | :-o |
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| 15:36.24 | Neffi | No rest 'til we have the right to marry ourselves |
| 15:36.47 | Neffi | Singularsexuals are people too |
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| 16:17.16 | Semlar | what's up with this maintenance |
| 16:18.57 | Maldivia | fixing the AH exploit? |
| 16:19.07 | Semlar | oh? |
| 16:19.40 | Maldivia | well, don't know if that's the case |
| 16:22.08 | Ressy | They fixed part of it, but they've had mobile down for days, and is probably putting in more safeguards? |
| 16:22.40 | bluspacecow | patch notes in the BDA same korean version number bump |
| 16:22.42 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 16:22.43 | bluspacecow | LOL |
| 16:22.44 | Maldivia | and a small patch, with minor changes some of the DBC files (achievements, battle pets) |
| 16:23.09 | Semlar | yeah the notes aren't terribly helpful |
| 16:23.17 | bluspacecow | "version number changed for a Korean update with the World of Warcraft client" |
| 16:23.30 | bluspacecow | thats a deliberate red heering if I ever saw one |
| 16:23.50 | bluspacecow | if they wanted to do a version bump that wouldn't of needed to brought the servers down |
| 16:24.44 | Ressy | How long they been down? |
| 16:24.59 | bluspacecow | 5am PDT |
| 16:25.02 | bluspacecow | well |
| 16:25.03 | Semlar | it's full maintenance |
| 16:25.07 | bluspacecow | 5.17 on my realm |
| 16:25.24 | Semlar | the message says 5 to 11 PDT |
| 16:25.50 | bluspacecow | i was still pet battling past 5am PDT |
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| 16:46.42 | Semlar | return msg, nil, nil, nil ; oh god why |
| 16:47.30 | alestane | Does the funciton sometimes return more arguments, or is it called alternately with one that does? |
| 16:48.25 | Semlar | i don't think so |
| 16:48.32 | Semlar | but i don't know what any of this does |
| 16:48.53 | Semlar | this is from oqueue |
| 16:49.24 | Semlar | i don't know why i keep going back to this |
| 16:52.21 | Semlar | they have a file called oqueue_pkt.lua which is never even loaded as far as i can tell |
| 16:58.00 | Semlar | i think they started to split it into more files but haven't quite gotten to that point |
| 16:58.38 | fewyn | mail is broken in wow i think |
| 16:58.55 | Semlar | broken how |
| 16:59.09 | fewyn | there should be stuff in my mailbox but there isn't |
| 16:59.53 | Semlar | ..aren't the servers down for maintenance |
| 16:59.57 | fewyn | no |
| 16:59.59 | fewyn | they came up |
| 17:00.02 | fewyn | just a bit ago |
| 17:00.33 | Semlar | maybe they aren't completely up |
| 17:00.35 | fewyn | yeah mail is broken, i know there should be like 30 mails of ore |
| 17:00.56 | Semlar | my mail is fine |
| 17:01.41 | fewyn | blizzard just must hate me |
| 17:01.43 | fewyn | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 17:01.51 | Semlar | probably |
| 17:02.17 | Xandr | Yeah, I'm pretty sure they have like a black book of players that they hate and mess with their accounts every so often. |
| 17:02.28 | Semlar | if you check the forum it's everyone |
| 17:02.38 | Semlar | everyone is on the list |
| 17:03.28 | Xandr | So you think it's more likely they have a whitelist of people they do not mess with? |
| 17:03.46 | Semlar | it would have to be |
| 17:04.12 | Semlar | the blacklist would be too long to go through |
| 17:04.46 | End | whoops stupid out of date checkbox |
| 17:05.16 | End | my mail is also fine |
| 17:05.29 | End | 700 items half of it expired auctions >_> |
| 17:05.37 | kd3 | no UI diff from 16977 to 17116 |
| 17:05.43 | kd3 | (not sending an email) |
| 17:06.13 | Semlar | there was a 12mb nsa patch |
| 17:06.28 | kd3 | though I probably should considering this was an actual patch and not just a new client build |
| 17:06.30 | fewyn | probably a velen specific problem then |
| 17:09.25 | fewyn | hrm |
| 17:09.29 | fewyn | it seems it's a postal issue |
| 17:12.10 | Maldivia | Semlar: the 11.9 mb of that was just exe patch, the 0.1 was minor updates to some DBC files :P |
| 17:12.20 | Maldivia | (ok, make that 9kb) |
| 17:12.30 | kd3 | emails away (no changes) |
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| 17:26.42 | bluspacecow | HAHAHAHAAHAHA |
| 17:26.48 | bluspacecow | i think the BDA messed up something heres |
| 17:26.58 | bluspacecow | cause i see this in my connection.log |
| 17:27.00 | bluspacecow | Failed to resolve us.logon.battle.net.logon.battle.net |
| 17:27.14 | kd3 | oooops |
| 17:27.44 | bluspacecow | omg BDA. Stahp!!!! STAHP!!!! |
| 17:29.59 | Torhal | sends bluspacecow to a remedial English school. |
| 17:31.50 | Semlar | i like how practically all of my addons are out of date |
| 17:32.22 | Semlar | so if that gets unchecked they all go away |
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| 17:34.14 | Semlar | function oq.well_formed_msg( m ) if (m == nil) then return nil ; end |
| 17:34.45 | Torhal | if not m |
| 17:34.49 | Semlar | nope |
| 17:35.06 | Torhal | Oh, could be false eh? |
| 17:35.14 | Semlar | probably not |
| 17:35.25 | Torhal | And return nil is silly |
| 17:35.37 | Semlar | i feel like whoever wrote this is trolling |
| 17:36.22 | kd3 | coughs hanlon's razor |
| 17:36.36 | Semlar | how do you write 18000 lines of this without learning some lua |
| 17:39.20 | Semlar | i don't think i've written 18000 total lines of lua |
| 17:48.04 | Maldivia | Torhal: why is return nil silly+ |
| 17:48.12 | Torhal | It's implicit. |
| 17:48.17 | Maldivia | no it's not |
| 17:48.31 | Torhal | Not in that code it isn't. |
| 17:48.58 | Torhal | I'm saying dropping the nil still returns nil. |
| 17:49.16 | Maldivia | lua> function f(x) if (x > 0) return nil; end end print(type(f(1)) print(type(f(0)) |
| 17:49.17 | lua_bot | Maldivia: luabot:1: 'then' expected near 'return' |
| 17:49.24 | Maldivia | lua> function f(x) if (x > 0) then return nil; end end print(type(f(1)) print(type(f(0)) |
| 17:49.24 | lua_bot | Maldivia: luabot:1: ')' expected near 'print' |
| 17:49.31 | Maldivia | lua> function f(x) if (x > 0) then return nil; end end print(type(f(1))) print(type(f(0))) |
| 17:49.31 | lua_bot | Maldivia: nil, luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'type' (value expected) |
| 17:49.35 | Maldivia | not the same |
| 17:51.26 | Torhal | Then I've either been incredibly lucky or never relied on it. |
| 17:52.03 | Maldivia | nil is a value, empty is not |
| 17:52.36 | Semlar | why would you write code that relies on the difference between nil and nothing |
| 17:53.12 | Semlar | do you have a practical example |
| 17:53.15 | Maldivia | well, parts of the wow api does |
| 17:53.37 | foxlit | I use it. |
| 17:53.42 | Maldivia | (or used to - don't know if they've changed it) |
| 17:53.43 | foxlit | AddOn:SetOption("name", value) |
| 17:53.56 | foxlit | I yell at you if you do AddOn:SetOption("name"); an explicit nil is valid. |
| 17:54.42 | Semlar | and why don't you assume nil |
| 17:55.48 | foxlit | because the lack of an explicit value is likely a programming error, and I don't want programming errors to wipe user preferences. |
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| 18:28.27 | Silvanas | hello good evening |
| 18:31.28 | bluspacecow | http://i.imgur.com/wa7XsOJ.jpg |
| 18:33.44 | Silvanas | posting picutes of dead kitten is no fun :/ |
| 18:35.07 | bluspacecow | wait |
| 18:35.14 | bluspacecow | i thought he was just resting ! |
| 18:35.15 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 18:35.57 | Silvanas | acutaly i have no idea, but both is possable :D |
| 18:39.21 | Silvanas | anyone know the function to open an itemlink ? else ill have to google it :D |
| 18:43.54 | Silvanas | oke found it, SetItemRef |
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| 18:49.52 | Silvanas | Welcome Cairenn |
| 18:50.07 | Cairenn | Heh, thanks |
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| 19:03.23 | p3lim | Hrm |
| 19:03.26 | p3lim | Alright, works |
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| 19:18.28 | VIad | Silvanas what problems are you encountering? |
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| 19:35.46 | Semlar | does anyone know if the in-game raid-specific LFR interface is restricted to your realm |
| 19:36.58 | Silvanas | what interface do you mean? |
| 19:37.28 | Semlar | yeah, part of the problem is that nobody even knows it exists |
| 19:37.43 | kd3 | the raid browser? |
| 19:37.48 | Silvanas | heh |
| 19:37.50 | Semlar | the raid browser |
| 19:38.17 | Semlar | i was thinking about using it behind the scenes for an addon |
| 19:38.29 | Semlar | but i'm pretty sure it's only for your own realm |
| 19:40.03 | Semlar | what i don't understand is why it only lets you pick from like 4 different raids when you're listing a raid, but the browse section has a huge number of things to choose from |
| 19:42.06 | Torhal | Semlar: You'll find that quite a bit. Like the colorblind options. They're all CVars. |
| 19:42.48 | Semlar | does anyone know for sure whether the raid browser is restricted to your own realm |
| 19:43.42 | Silvanas | i still dont know what raid browser you mean, i though LFR only allowed yo to join a raid a random :D |
| 19:44.23 | Semlar | there is a button at the top of the raid tab that says "other raids" |
| 19:44.30 | Maldivia | Silvanas: Raid Browser - press O, select Raid tab, click Other Raids |
| 19:44.41 | Semlar | it has never been used in the history of ever |
| 19:44.41 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/Raid_Browser |
| 19:45.09 | Semlar | i just thought i might have a use for it |
| 19:45.16 | Silvanas | oww that stuff, i havent seen it since WotLK :D |
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| 19:48.21 | karl_w_w | is there a verb that means to assert something to be false |
| 19:48.47 | karl_w_w | along the lines of contradict but not quite |
| 19:49.09 | karl_w_w | disclaim I guess |
| 19:49.14 | Semlar | OBJECTION! |
| 19:50.10 | Semlar | i think you're looking for an adverb |
| 19:50.46 | Silvanas | Assert.IsFalse() ? it works in C# |
| 19:50.52 | karl_w_w | :P |
| 19:52.44 | Silvanas | pff, i got myzelf into some heavy lua crazyness, best solution would be to complately redesign my datamodel |
| 19:53.02 | Semlar | completely redesign is best redesign |
| 19:53.38 | Torhal | Datamodel redesign you! |
| 19:53.45 | Silvanas | got 4 list of strings, now i want to sort some list and execute the same sorting on all other lists :D (its a datatable structure) |
| 19:54.14 | Semlar | do they use the same index |
| 19:54.24 | Silvanas | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:54.37 | Semlar | well that should make it easy |
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| 19:55.38 | Semlar | once you sort one you have the keys in the order you want |
| 19:56.44 | Silvanas | yes i gues i should map the { stringValue, currentIndex } then sort and use the new index + old index to re-organise it. but seems rathers complex |
| 19:57.51 | Semlar | i'm not sure you can sort any simpler than creating a new table with the value being the keys in the order you want them |
| 19:58.12 | Silvanas | yeh |
| 19:58.42 | Silvanas | the problem is my datatable structure has columns and those columns have cells, but there is currently no concept of datarows |
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| 21:38.25 | Silvanas | Meh, invalid order function for sorting |
| 21:38.40 | VIad | table.sort wont help you here? |
| 21:39.19 | Silvanas | wel table.sort gives the error :D |
| 21:39.31 | VIad | what error? |
| 21:39.37 | VIad | probably coded it wrong, no? |
| 21:39.53 | Silvanas | Message: WHDKP+-1.0.8\DataTable.lua:170: invalid order function for sorting |
| 21:40.14 | VIad | how does the function look, and how does your table look? |
| 21:43.26 | karl_w_w | don't I remember they added the ability to move steam game install locations? |
| 21:43.35 | karl_w_w | without just symlinking them |
| 21:44.13 | Silvanas | in steam you cna create a new folder in some other location, thne when you install a game you can choose a destination folder |
| 21:44.24 | Silvanas | but it has to be a preset folder |
| 21:45.04 | Silvanas | Vlad: http://pastebin.com/b82raXSD |
| 21:46.52 | VIad | fyi not all games can be installed in other locations |
| 21:46.56 | Silvanas | well they can if you use windows7 junctions like i did :D |
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| 21:47.33 | VIad | I just symlink |
| 21:48.32 | VIad | can compareFunc return nil? |
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| 21:51.37 | karl_w_w | I'm finally playing mass effect 2, but the loading screens take forever |
| 21:51.59 | Silvanas | no compare function also returns an a < b comparisation -> http://pastebin.com/PgQb5Ceg i added the compare functions |
| 21:51.59 | VIad | karl_w_w: loading screens? |
| 21:52.26 | VIad | your compareFunc don't exist |
| 21:52.32 | VIad | so it's never called? |
| 21:52.35 | karl_w_w | yes VIad |
| 21:52.45 | VIad | karl_w_w: :'( old machine? |
| 21:53.08 | karl_w_w | nope. |
| 21:54.07 | Silvanas | compareFunc does exist but in a different class :D |
| 21:55.20 | Semlar | hm |
| 21:55.24 | VIad | make sure it's never nil |
| 21:55.26 | Silvanas | i first noticed the failure when i added the if _invertSorting then, maybbe "return not result" is a wrong way of inverting it |
| 21:55.41 | VIad | "not result" will always be a bool |
| 21:55.47 | Silvanas | true |
| 21:55.52 | Semlar | GetSpellInfo appears to apply your haste to the cast time of the spell, but not if it's a physical attack |
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| 21:56.23 | Semlar | like the returned cast speed for slam isn't affected by your haste |
| 21:56.40 | Silvanas | off thoguh it always aplied the persons haste |
| 21:56.52 | Semlar | what |
| 21:57.23 | Semlar | oh |
| 21:57.24 | Silvanas | i though both melee & spell haste was applied but maybe not :D |
| 21:57.37 | VIad | Silvanas: I ran your code and it worked for me |
| 21:57.39 | VIad | on my end |
| 21:57.53 | Semlar | well i'm looking at it right now, it's returning 1500 for slam's cast speed, and its base is 1.5 seconds |
| 21:58.23 | Semlar | i'm trying to figure out if there's any way to figure out what spells it will affect |
| 21:58.32 | Semlar | because i'm trying to reverse the haste value |
| 21:58.46 | Silvanas | Vlad: ofcourse it works, it just some causes where it fails, its getting late. ill do an extensive debugging tomorrow :D |
| 21:58.57 | VIad | Silvanas: yeah I need to see the scenario where it fails ;) |
| 21:59.04 | VIad | it's midnight in a moment for me too |
| 21:59.27 | VIad | Semlar: I'd prefer if the hyperlinks allowed us to specify haste and that it then modified the tooltip accordingly |
| 21:59.36 | VIad | spell:id:haste? |
| 21:59.47 | Semlar | it should just return the base value |
| 21:59.51 | VIad | yeah |
| 21:59.58 | Semlar | if you want to apply haste then do it afterward |
| 22:00.11 | VIad | I just know blizz is lazy and justs makes C-side do the magic |
| 22:00.13 | VIad | :P |
| 22:00.47 | Semlar | maybe slam isn't affected by haste |
| 22:00.47 | Silvanas | well if you say it only affects spells and not melee, maybe look for text like "casttime" or "next swing" |
| 22:01.10 | Semlar | i'll try and figure out if there are any other spells that this isn't going to work with |
| 22:01.37 | VIad | I remember when swing timer was usefull for hunters |
| 22:01.43 | Semlar | if it's all physical attacks then i could pull the spell school out of the combat log |
| 22:01.49 | VIad | so I could shoot then run while my swing timer was on CD :P |
| 22:01.59 | VIad | before they made hunters able to run around |
| 22:02.52 | Silvanas | hate the time where hunters ninjaéd thier stat sticks from feral druids |
| 22:03.10 | VIad | actually you could see what is for a hunter and what was for a druid |
| 22:03.24 | Silvanas | :/ |
| 22:03.42 | Silvanas | i played feral druid and i never saw it :D |
| 22:03.55 | VIad | I believe the hunters had less damage on their designated weapons |
| 22:03.59 | VIad | druids hit harder with theirs |
| 22:04.05 | VIad | so long ago, can't remember |
| 22:04.17 | VIad | I just have the feeling you could tell apart some of them |
| 22:04.40 | Silvanas | well in verry odl days feral weapons had feral attack power but that was only verry early on :D |
| 22:04.57 | Silvanas | anyway i am off, good nite |
| 22:05.00 | VIad | good night |
| 22:05.08 | xyphoid | wasmpolearms were hunters |
| 22:05.26 | xyphoid | er, wasn't it polearms for hunters and staffs for druids and then the fights didn't break out |
| 22:05.32 | VIad | :D |
| 22:05.57 | VIad | you won't believe me |
| 22:06.04 | VIad | but we had a retri paladin doing good dps in vanilla while doing nax |
| 22:06.08 | VIad | aq/nax |
| 22:09.58 | VIad | if this was 2008 you'd be like "ffs paladins are healbots, not for dps!" |
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| 22:12.18 | karl_w_w | as i understand it the average player was barely more than a trained chimp back then, so doing "good" by comparison would be perfectly possible even with a hopeless spec |
| 22:12.39 | VIad | hehe |
| 22:13.38 | VIad | I remember I sucked badly, I played a hunter, the guild let me try raid with them because they needed hunters for Razorgore in BWL and I knew one thing, kiting, I was okay at it, enough to let me into the guild newly dinged 60 with crap items :P |
| 22:13.53 | VIad | after that I had epic time trough vanilla doing all sort of bosses with them, was good times |
| 22:14.20 | VIad | before tbc you could heal and dps with addons, just saying |
| 22:14.28 | VIad | castspellbyname wasn't protected |
| 22:14.44 | kd3 | decursive |
| 22:14.52 | VIad | yeah but thats the tame stuff |
| 22:14.58 | VIad | I had a one button healbot and dps bot :P |
| 22:15.08 | VIad | spammed one key for perfect healing and dps rotations |
| 22:15.18 | VIad | sadly I only found this out at the end of vanilla, haha |
| 22:15.27 | VIad | so it was short lived fun, then tbc came and fixed it |
| 22:17.27 | VIad | karl_w_w: :( |
| 22:17.29 | VIad | kd3: :( |
| 22:17.32 | VIad | I am sleepy |
| 22:17.34 | VIad | but I dont wanna sleep! |
| 22:32.16 | VIad | I love brushing my teeth - brb :3333 |
| 22:36.15 | VIad | gn |
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| 23:46.11 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.04 | Arrowmaster | so im about to attempt wiping and flashing a new rom to my phone in the middle of the work week, this could end bad |
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| 23:54.11 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: and yet you are going to do it anyway |
| 23:54.40 | Arrowmaster | yeah i think i am |
| 23:59.43 | Arrowmaster | im still downloading the rom and gapps and other stuff, i may hold off till the weekend |
