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| 07:13.16 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:17.40 | zenzio_ | 736 here |
| 07:18.22 | Semlar | for me it has feedback from just completely random products |
| 07:18.36 | Semlar | i think i broke it |
| 07:18.42 | zenzio | sounds like it |
| 07:26.11 | Sintacks | does .xml get reloaded with a reload? |
| 07:26.20 | Sintacks | i know .toc doesn't |
| 07:26.26 | Sintacks | and requries a restart completely |
| 07:28.57 | zenzio | I think only the toc doesn't |
| 07:33.07 | Semlar | i think you can use xml to load new files without restarting the game |
| 07:33.18 | Semlar | i haven't messed with it though |
| 07:35.20 | AcidWeb | Sintacks: yes |
| 07:40.06 | Sintacks | well i messed something up in it. yay. |
| 07:40.16 | Sintacks | cuz now the X button doesn't work |
| 07:43.08 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/henchmen.gif |
| 07:43.11 | Sintacks | <Button name="Thingy_Close_Button" inherits="UIPanelCloseButton"> |
| 07:43.27 | Sintacks | does the bold part make the frame hide instantly, so that you can't add a <Script> to it to do something with the frame? |
| 07:45.24 | Semlar | i pretty much completely avoid using xml for anything |
| 07:45.30 | Sintacks | lol |
| 07:45.36 | Semlar | but if the frame is hidden it won't prevent the script from running |
| 07:45.47 | Sintacks | i'm not writing anything new. i'm trying to change something |
| 07:46.01 | Mr_Rabies | when i see the phrase "the bold" i automatically put "the brave and" infront of it in my head |
| 07:46.03 | Semlar | now a script on the button might overwrite the one it's inheriting |
| 07:46.10 | Semlar | i'm not really sure |
| 07:46.17 | Sintacks | i'll try that |
| 07:46.25 | Sintacks | cuz that would be fine. i can just hide the frame with the script |
| 07:47.04 | Sintacks | trying that |
| 07:48.58 | Semlar | looks like UIPanelCloseButton calls HideParentPanel(self) onclick |
| 07:50.50 | Semlar | so i guess it needs to be directly under the parent frame you're trying to hide |
| 08:01.36 | Sintacks | and yes, Semlar, that did work. adding the Frame:Hide() to the OnClick |
| 08:01.40 | Sintacks | script that is |
| 08:01.56 | Mr_Rabies | semlar is like a mad scientist of lua |
| 08:02.06 | Semlar | am i |
| 08:02.21 | Semlar | i think i might just be mad |
| 08:02.32 | Mr_Rabies | your code that throws literally hundreds of taint errors at me a day has still yet to have a single actual issue other than upsetting bugsack |
| 08:02.47 | Semlar | problem solved forever |
| 08:03.23 | Semlar | if you can just find a way to hide the error you can pretend it doesn't exist |
| 08:03.46 | Sintacks | lol |
| 08:05.28 | Sintacks | 98% of the "errors" i get are shit like "Note: AddOn SomethingRandomEveryTime attempted to call a protected function (NormallyHidingOrShowingSomethingThatWasAlreadyHiddenOrShown)) during combat lockdown.... when i'm not even in combatlock down |
| 08:05.33 | Sintacks | i missed a ctrl+b |
| 08:05.44 | Sintacks | 98% of the "errors" i get are shit like "Note: AddOn SomethingRandomEveryTime attempted to call a protected function (NormallyHidingOrShowingSomethingThatWasAlreadyHiddenOrShown)) during combat lockdown.... when i'm not even in combatlock down |
| 08:05.46 | Sintacks | dat |
| 08:06.09 | Sintacks | and most of the time, is CompactRaidGroupshit and it gets spamed like 50 times |
| 08:06.30 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:06.34 | Sintacks | and most of the times, the addon that gets blamed for it isn't even doing anything related to it |
| 08:07.03 | Sintacks | i wanted that application a month ago, but i couldn't remember what it was called |
| 08:07.31 | Semlar | hdtune! |
| 08:08.30 | Sintacks | spin up time in the health is hours right |
| 08:08.42 | Semlar | i have no idea |
| 08:08.45 | Sintacks | 327 days |
| 08:08.53 | Sintacks | no.. that's not it |
| 08:08.56 | Sintacks | Power On Hours is |
| 08:09.05 | Sintacks | 1080 days |
| 08:09.07 | Sintacks | that makes more sense |
| 08:09.13 | Semlar | spin up time is how long it takes to spin up |
| 08:09.19 | Semlar | >_> |
| 08:09.23 | Sintacks | <.< |
| 08:09.29 | Semlar | so probably not 327 days |
| 08:09.32 | Sintacks | power cycle count. 248 |
| 08:09.42 | Sintacks | spin up time for mine is 7858 |
| 08:09.46 | Sintacks | in whatever data format it is |
| 08:10.35 | Semlar | my spin up time is 253 |
| 08:10.43 | Semlar | that's a hell of a difference |
| 08:12.29 | Semlar | if power on time is in hours my drive has been on for more than 7 years |
| 08:12.34 | Sintacks | Uptime: 4d 15h 55m 38s |
| 08:12.49 | Sintacks | does that sound reasonable? |
| 08:12.54 | Semlar | it could be |
| 08:13.00 | Sintacks | 3 years sounds reasonable for my drive |
| 08:13.01 | Semlar | it's my 120gb drive so it's ancient |
| 08:13.20 | Semlar | Power On Time: 62552 |
| 08:13.32 | Sintacks | i'm doing a benchmark now to see if my access times are as random as yours. lol |
| 08:13.53 | Semlar | that's my WD green drive which is sporadic as hell |
| 08:14.03 | Sintacks | i have a 1TB black |
| 08:14.08 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.imgur.com/754SwuN.jpg not even remotely related to anything we're talking about but i feel i have to share it with someone right now |
| 08:14.21 | Sintacks | 42C? |
| 08:14.23 | Sintacks | your drive is hot |
| 08:14.37 | Semlar | well, my old case had no fans |
| 08:14.40 | Semlar | don't worry about that |
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| 08:15.00 | zenzio | Mr_Rabies: I don't seem to get it |
| 08:15.25 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/bxnHuWQ.png |
| 08:15.30 | Mr_Rabies | plastic man can stretch his body at will into just about anything, so bane's penchant for breaking backs is wholly useless against him |
| 08:15.42 | Mr_Rabies | also he works on cartoon character rules |
| 08:15.52 | Mr_Rabies | slash "funny papers" |
| 08:16.02 | Sintacks | -1.0% CPU usage. lol wat |
| 08:16.13 | zenzio | I see... I'd never heard of him, but I'm not into comics |
| 08:16.18 | Sintacks | i bet it's not safe to use HD Tune on an SSD... |
| 08:16.30 | Semlar | i doubt it matters |
| 08:16.41 | Semlar | unless it's a relatively old SSD |
| 08:16.47 | Sintacks | eh. it does say it's an HDD / SSD utility |
| 08:17.10 | Kalroth | HD Tune works fine on SSDs |
| 08:17.15 | Mr_Rabies | here's all you need to know about plastic man, zenzio: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8a0Qguwa5E (okay not really but yeah) |
| 08:19.37 | airtonix | Sintacks: i see your problem |
| 08:19.53 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:20.02 | Semlar | the one that's 7 years old |
| 08:20.03 | Sintacks | what's with the giant drop |
| 08:20.13 | airtonix | hint: window borders |
| 08:20.18 | Kalroth | haha |
| 08:20.31 | Sintacks | I like aero :| |
| 08:20.51 | airtonix | we need to take this deeper |
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| 08:21.33 | Sintacks | http://i.imgur.com/lqyc5zu.png -- SSD |
| 08:21.45 | Sintacks | the access times aren't even noticable. lol |
| 08:21.58 | Sintacks | and i don't have any SATA 3 connections |
| 08:22.00 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/giSaUGU.png this is my friend's ssd |
| 08:23.21 | Mr_Rabies | i've heard that in practice sata 6.0 really still isn't all that different versus sata 3.0 |
| 08:23.25 | Semlar | also my computer never gets turned off |
| 08:23.42 | Mr_Rabies | even for ssds |
| 08:23.46 | Kalroth | Mr_Rabies: it's the exact same until you need the extra bandwidth |
| 08:23.47 | Semlar | so it's probably a lil hotter than normal |
| 08:23.49 | Mr_Rabies | i guess the controllers are the bottlneck now |
| 08:24.03 | Mr_Rabies | bottleneck* |
| 08:24.25 | Kalroth | meaning you need to break ~300MB/s before sata 3.0 goes in effect |
| 08:25.07 | Kalroth | anything under 300MB runs fine using sata 2.0 |
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| 08:30.56 | Sintacks | my SSD's "power on hours count" is 897 (37.375 days) -- i didn't think i had had this SSD for that long o.O |
| 08:32.21 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/4qah8wG.jpg |
| 08:32.26 | nevcairiel | the validation process before you got it probably added some hours |
| 08:33.54 | Kalroth | yeah, good/expensive brands test them 24-48 hours |
| 08:34.03 | Neffi | That's how you know they care about qyality. Testing the drives for a whole century before shipping them. |
| 08:34.17 | nevcairiel | thats a decimal point |
| 08:34.19 | nevcairiel | <.< |
| 08:34.37 | Neffi | god-dammit I just woke up, alright |
| 08:34.38 | Neffi | =( |
| 08:34.45 | Kalroth | haha |
| 08:34.57 | Neffi | i was really confused by that too |
| 08:35.07 | nevcairiel | just because i'm at work doesnt mean i'm any more awake |
| 08:35.15 | nevcairiel | its way too hot to be awake |
| 08:35.43 | Neffi | Good point. Why the fuck am I |
| 08:36.00 | Semlar | can't sleep, too tired |
| 08:38.20 | Kalroth | someone needs to fight for a worldwide identical metrics and same decimal/thousand seperators |
| 08:38.36 | Kalroth | 5.004.304,23 makes most sense! |
| 08:38.59 | Neffi | no it doesnt, go to hell |
| 08:39.04 | Neffi | 1,000 times |
| 08:39.33 | Kalroth | says the lover of feet and stones and fingers and gallons and butts |
| 08:40.14 | Neffi | .what |
| 08:42.40 | Semlar | i think there was an insult in there somewhere |
| 08:42.53 | Semlar | we should be angry |
| 08:43.21 | Semlar | but i don't know their nationality so i can't come up with a proper retort |
| 08:43.32 | Semlar | kiwi? |
| 08:43.39 | Neffi | well he ain't murrican |
| 08:43.53 | Semlar | USA, USA |
| 08:45.12 | Semlar | i'm torn between a 1tb WD black or a 3tb seagate barracuda for like $20 more |
| 08:45.58 | Semlar | i'm not really sure about the performance on the seagate |
| 08:46.20 | Semlar | but that is a huge difference in capacity |
| 08:46.36 | Neffi | Is it on sale? |
| 08:46.58 | Neffi | Because I'm questioning a drive that gives you 3x storage capacity for so little extra. I'd question the quality. |
| 08:47.15 | Semlar | well, blacks are kind of overpriced |
| 08:47.25 | Neffi | I mean, Seagate doesn't exactly have the reputation of WD Black drives. But then again, how important is your anime? |
| 08:47.44 | Semlar | the only drive i've had fail was a seagate |
| 08:47.50 | nevcairiel | blacks are seriously overpriced, imho |
| 08:48.50 | Neffi | Hmm. Well I'm still remembering pre-flood days when HDDs were so dirt cheap, you could sorta get the best and not care. |
| 08:48.55 | Semlar | that being said, i would be fine with sacrificing a little performance for an extra 2tb if it will last me a few years |
| 08:49.14 | Neffi | I sometimes forget prices havent all gone back down, because I havent bought an HDD recently |
| 08:52.11 | Semlar | alright i've decided if i cared about performance i'd use an SSD |
| 08:52.22 | Stanzilla | blacks are getting hot as fuck btw |
| 08:52.54 | nevcairiel | if you care about your system, you have a fan before your storage cage no matter whats in it =p |
| 08:53.14 | Stanzilla | doesnt help in my case |
| 08:53.18 | Semlar | there's a 200mm fan in the front of my case |
| 08:53.18 | Stanzilla | had to unplug it |
| 08:53.27 | Semlar | which is blowing directly on all of the drives |
| 08:53.37 | Maldivia | switching to this window, and the first thing I see is "blacks are getting hot as fuck btw" -- yep, that does sound a bit racist :) |
| 08:53.45 | Stanzilla | hahahah |
| 08:53.51 | nevcairiel | thats Stanzilla for you |
| 08:55.48 | Stanzilla | especially funny as I'm just sitting next to my black friend |
| 08:56.20 | Semlar | what's his opinions on the blacks |
| 08:56.51 | Semlar | should i go with the seagate or the WD |
| 08:56.58 | Neffi | "they run fast"? |
| 08:57.38 | Neffi | If it's not a system drive, does speed really matter? |
| 08:57.53 | Semlar | not really |
| 08:58.19 | Semlar | but i also don't have a performance drive so |
| 08:58.36 | Neffi | With HDDs the only thing I really care about is reliability, but when you think of it buying one of those little machines is basically a lottery either way (where the chances are decidedly in your favor) |
| 08:58.44 | Neffi | You either get a lemon or you don't |
| 08:58.48 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt get a black anymore, they arent really that much faster and cost just too much |
| 08:59.10 | Semlar | they're probably more likely to fail anyway, since they run hotter |
| 08:59.33 | Neffi | Yeah, when people buy WD for reliability, it's usually the greens and the REs |
| 08:59.43 | Neffi | Wanna talk expensive? Look at those damn RE drives |
| 08:59.53 | Semlar | they also have blue drives |
| 09:00.09 | Neffi | Those are the budget drives. Might as well get a better drive for the same price elsewhere. |
| 09:00.19 | nevcairiel | they stopped blue |
| 09:00.24 | nevcairiel | nothing above 1tb or so |
| 09:00.33 | Neffi | They have reds now, but I'm not exactly sure what's so special about them |
| 09:00.46 | nevcairiel | reds are deisgned for NAS devices |
| 09:00.56 | nevcairiel | slightly different firmware, some other design choices |
| 09:01.08 | Neffi | They call them NAS drives, but how the hell do you optimize a bunch of platters for being in a box as opposed to your Raid Edition which are the same bunch of platters going into the same box |
| 09:01.29 | nevcairiel | first of all they cost like half of the RE4 :p |
| 09:01.40 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:01.42 | Neffi | So they're to REs what blues are to blacks? |
| 09:01.50 | Neffi | Seems redundant |
| 09:02.08 | Neffi | Semlar: Yeah get the Seagate |
| 09:02.14 | Semlar | which is $110 for a 3tb drive |
| 09:02.22 | Neffi | "$160.00 (59%)" hell yes get the Seagate |
| 09:02.36 | Neffi | That explains the price difference. That's a good deal. |
| 09:02.54 | Semlar | well i mean normally they're probably more like $130, i think the retail is probably an exaggeration |
| 09:02.55 | nevcairiel | the RE drives are basically enterprise level drives, if a consumer buys them, its their own fault for being stupid |
| 09:03.30 | nevcairiel | the red are a mix between the consumer drives and the RE's, designed for 24/7 operation and slightly optimized for less heat output to run safe and sound in a small NAS box |
| 09:03.34 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:04.02 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:04.04 | Stanzilla | green is for storage only |
| 09:04.09 | Stanzilla | and slower than black |
| 09:04.12 | Neffi | If I'm buying a drive that's supposed to be good, then I expect it to be able to sustain 24/7 operation by default, not as a premium feature |
| 09:04.33 | Neffi | Slow, but that makes them a safe bet for storage, and they run cooler |
| 09:10.25 | Semlar | i'll probably get an ssd at some point |
| 09:10.31 | Semlar | for my main drive |
| 09:11.15 | Semlar | i went with the seagate |
| 09:11.33 | Semlar | and hopefully it won't die on me |
| 09:13.27 | airtonix | use zfs and it won't matter which brand you use in the end |
| 09:13.58 | airtonix | all that ends up changing is the frequency at which youll be replacing dead drives |
| 09:24.34 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/Y3WtcI2.jpg |
| 09:25.18 | Neffi | GoT fans ^^ |
| 09:43.26 | pompy | https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/942030_10200199833381923_655535880_n.jpg lols |
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| 10:10.47 | Sintacks | is wowhead being slow for anyone else ... |
| 10:12.13 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 10:12.18 | karl_w_w | google the thing u want |
| 10:12.28 | karl_w_w | it's the search that's the biggest problem |
| 10:29.32 | Semlar | wowhead is completely down for me |
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| 10:44.26 | Sintacks | heh. karl_w_w, search seems okay. the address bar updates to the spell/item ID quickly, but then it sits there not loading a page with "waiting for wowjs.zamimg.com" |
| 10:44.50 | Sintacks | and does the same when you click on a link after a search |
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| 11:33.53 | VIad | >lua ("test")[1] |
| 11:34.05 | VIad | >lua print ({"test"})[1] |
| 11:34.09 | VIad | !lua ? |
| 11:34.15 | VIad | lua> print ({"test"})[1] |
| 11:34.16 | lua_bot | VIad: table: 0x8d70ad0, luabot:1: attempt to index a nil value |
| 11:34.32 | VIad | lua> print( ({"a","b"})[1]) |
| 11:34.32 | lua_bot | VIad: a |
| 11:34.42 | VIad | oki doki |
| 11:37.32 | VIad | Torhal: whats up with NPCScan? :) |
| 11:43.35 | Sintacks | what do you mean, what's up with npcscan |
| 11:45.51 | VIad | saiket couldn't keep developing it so torhal took it over |
| 11:45.55 | VIad | so I wonder about his plans :P |
| 11:50.26 | nevcairiel | if it ends up anything like repo, you can switch to silverdragon today already |
| 11:51.24 | Neffi | nevcairiel: why? |
| 11:53.45 | Sintacks | lul |
| 11:57.53 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 11:57.58 | Fisker | thunder may have killed my htpc |
| 11:58.18 | nevcairiel | good job thunder |
| 11:58.47 | nevcairiel | i had that last year, turned out it only killed my ssd in the htpc |
| 11:58.58 | nevcairiel | while it was attached to the motherboard it didnt boot at all anymore |
| 11:59.03 | nevcairiel | removed it ,everything was fine |
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| 12:48.04 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:48.27 | bluspacecow | dead i mean :( |
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| 13:02.33 | VIad | htpc hmmm |
| 13:02.44 | VIad | home theater pc, ok |
| 13:02.48 | VIad | never heard of htpc before :P |
| 13:03.02 | VIad | I just figured it's a pc running something like media center |
| 13:03.12 | nevcairiel | thats because you live under a rock called norway |
| 13:03.26 | VIad | or just because americans love making acronyms |
| 13:03.39 | nevcairiel | that term has been in use for ever |
| 13:04.43 | Neffi | I'll consult the president. It's about time we replaced that one. |
| 13:05.35 | nevcairiel | us president? I think i'm closer right now, i'll go ask |
| 13:07.20 | Neffi | Hmm. Are you standing outside the bedroom window at the White House? |
| 13:07.34 | nevcairiel | nah, he is visiting our country right now |
| 13:08.12 | Neffi | So that means nobody is using his private bathroom. Now's my chance. |
| 13:08.19 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 13:09.41 | bluspacecow | :3 |
| 13:09.48 | bluspacecow | mdfind -name |
| 13:09.55 | bluspacecow | i love you hooooo hoooo |
| 13:10.00 | bluspacecow | almost more then orange soad |
| 13:10.11 | bluspacecow | *soda |
| 13:10.25 | Neffi | who loves orange soda? |
| 13:10.45 | Neffi | Nobody? |
| 13:10.59 | VIad | doubt the president eats any food not provided by the secret service, while he is abroad :P |
| 13:11.06 | nevcairiel | some blue cows, apparently |
| 13:11.13 | VIad | he probably sleeps in some place they checked a year in advance and kept under lockdown until the date :P |
| 13:11.25 | nevcairiel | who said anything about food? |
| 13:11.28 | Neffi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lTBUDBq8xw |
| 13:11.35 | VIad | just saying, doubt you can just visit or even look at the president, even if he is in your country ;D |
| 13:11.38 | Neffi | you people really need to keep up to date on '90s era kids shows |
| 13:11.40 | bluspacecow | *gasp* Vlad |
| 13:11.47 | nevcairiel | looking at him would've been easy |
| 13:11.49 | bluspacecow | so he sleeps in a coffin ? |
| 13:11.52 | nevcairiel | but i live in the wrong city |
| 13:11.59 | VIad | I bet if you had line of sight with his room, your house would be barred off with walls by the secret service :p |
| 13:15.53 | VIad | oh boy |
| 13:15.55 | VIad | NAV is painful |
| 13:16.27 | VIad | I am going to work 3 months at a school in direction with NAV in norway |
| 13:16.33 | bluspacecow | then stop picking at it |
| 13:16.43 | VIad | problem is their system has a 2 week check-in to be listed as a worker |
| 13:17.03 | VIad | each two weeks I have to remember to login and send in a form - I ain't even receiving any benefits from them :P |
| 13:17.12 | VIad | but I gotta do this until the paperwork is done in august lol |
| 13:17.15 | VIad | so lame |
| 13:17.37 | bluspacecow | protip |
| 13:17.49 | bluspacecow | if you stare at paperwork hard enough it'll catch alight |
| 13:17.58 | bluspacecow | or at least until you pull your lighter out |
| 13:18.07 | VIad | lol |
| 13:18.16 | VIad | it's them who are slow at processing the paperworks :P |
| 13:19.16 | VIad | just lame I gotta suffer checking in like this :( |
| 13:19.44 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/i89dc.jpg |
| 13:20.47 | nevcairiel | why does grande sound bigger than medium |
| 13:21.11 | VIad | grande is spanish, no? |
| 13:21.17 | VIad | el grande |
| 13:21.24 | VIad | or italian maybe lol |
| 13:21.32 | VIad | sounds like pizza talk |
| 13:21.37 | Lopeppeppy | I owe alestane birthday kisses and spankings.... |
| 13:21.38 | bluspacecow | its a size at starbucks |
| 13:22.00 | bluspacecow | its a dig at english majors IMHO. IE only job you get is at starbucks / mcds / fast food |
| 13:22.41 | Ressy | These days though, its normal because of the US jobmarket. |
| 13:22.49 | karl_w_w | I swear to god if I lost my mind and decided to actually go into a starbucks, and asked for a medium something, and they corrected me, I would simply leave |
| 13:22.49 | bluspacecow | :| |
| 13:22.50 | nevcairiel | grande still sounds bigger than medium |
| 13:23.02 | bluspacecow | its marketing speak |
| 13:23.16 | nevcairiel | if i would ask for medium, and they would say "ok, grande", i would counter with "No, medium" |
| 13:23.28 | karl_w_w | it could be the lost language of an ancient civilization, I still wouldn't care |
| 13:24.24 | bluspacecow | if so I would ask how to say "you come here often" and "how's about we go back to your place for a roll in the hay" |
| 13:33.14 | Sintacks | 23-13 |
| 13:33.18 | Sintacks | er |
| 13:37.36 | Maldivia | RIP James Gandolfini - hadn't read that until now |
| 13:51.26 | karl_w_w | what? gandalf died? |
| 13:52.12 | Maldivia | James Gandolfini, the actor who played Tony Soprano etc |
| 14:02.55 | bluspacecow | "SAVED_VARIABLES_TOO_LARGE - Your computer does not have enough memory to load settings from the following AddOn. Please disable some AddOns.\n\n|cffffd200%s|r" |
| 14:03.17 | bluspacecow | from MMO's coverage of 5.4 PTR build 17093 |
| 14:03.20 | bluspacecow | not sure if old |
| 14:03.24 | bluspacecow | *checks the Fisker* |
| 14:03.40 | nevcairiel | funny how they added an error for that now, before it would just fail randomly =P |
| 14:04.16 | Fisker | It's old bluspacecow |
| 14:04.27 | bluspacecow | thank you Fisker for clearing that up |
| 14:06.23 | Sintacks | My record addon memory usage is 513MB |
| 14:07.28 | Sintacks | 4 hours of recount with time data. 500 deaths @ 60 second history of deathnote. and other normal shit. |
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| 14:08.32 | sintAcks | i go sleep bai |
| 14:11.24 | zenzio | have fun |
| 14:28.56 | bluspacecow | gym tiems! BBL |
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| 14:50.32 | TC-work | http://www.kick-stopper.com/ |
| 14:52.54 | airtonix | at 1am ? |
| 14:54.05 | airtonix | also wat |
| 14:56.26 | TC-work | airtonix: blu has a night shift |
| 14:56.50 | airtonix | at a gym? |
| 14:57.12 | TC-work | no, but after work is after work. |
| 15:00.31 | karl_w_w | wow my bmah is loaded with sweet sweet lewts right now |
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| 15:01.40 | karl_w_w | pally t3 helm, 535 heroic bracers agi mail and spirit leather, one of those weather machine things, a battered hilt, and flintlocke's blasthammer |
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| 15:11.23 | airtonix | nice pixels |
| 15:12.56 | g0urra | ... http://imgur.com/gallery/rwBck9I (nsfw) |
| 15:23.10 | Torhal | VIad: I'll be starting on it in the next couple of days. Isn't just a matter of changing some code. Had to compile a library that'll be refreenced by some Python scripts, which I also need to tweak a bit, and a bunch of other stuff. Quite an involved process, especially being new to it. |
| 15:23.39 | VIad | yeah |
| 15:23.59 | VIad | people want overlays, thus needs to extract wowhead data or something to produce a db for the rares |
| 15:24.54 | Torhal | The library is for reaching into MPQs. |
| 15:25.11 | Torhal | Also, I have to run a modified version of Routes (don't ask - I'll be fixing that as well) |
| 15:25.12 | Maldivia | g0urra: no comment... |
| 15:25.33 | TC-work | Maldivia: that is a comment. |
| 15:26.32 | Ressy | g0urra: Thanks for the eye canding this morning. |
| 15:26.38 | Ressy | err, candy* |
| 15:32.59 | g0urra | lol Ressy |
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| 15:40.48 | zenzelezz | http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1gq23t/painuser_fell_asleep_on_stream_during_marathon/ heh |
| 15:45.05 | VIad | btw, why can't I search my history on youtube? |
| 15:45.09 | VIad | lol :P |
| 15:45.26 | TC-work | Great comments zenzelezz |
| 16:00.46 | VIad | here is a cat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxRX6LXDpWs |
| 16:03.07 | TC-work | "// is the string is a int" /cry |
| 16:06.03 | Adys | Fisker: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodhoof/janirien/simple |
| 16:06.06 | Adys | ilvl 430 at lvl 86 |
| 16:06.08 | Adys | jealous much? |
| 16:07.30 | zenzelezz | i accidentally all the ilevels |
| 16:08.24 | karl_w_w | so I figured out whenever the mouseover tooltip changing in combat it causes me to lose fps |
| 16:08.28 | karl_w_w | changes* |
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| 16:09.06 | TC-work | all actions should cause you to lose fps.... |
| 16:09.22 | karl_w_w | but this is ridiculous |
| 16:09.30 | TC-work | or rather, eat up gfx card use |
| 16:09.31 | karl_w_w | like the difference between 15 fps and 1 |
| 16:11.16 | karl_w_w | maybe I'll disable tiptac and see what happens |
| 16:11.52 | VIad | http://i.imgur.com/5HgwcfI.jpg |
| 16:11.56 | VIad | what's the name of that white part? |
| 16:12.02 | VIad | I assume it's the power supply for the SATA HDD |
| 16:12.17 | karl_w_w | it's called a plug |
| 16:12.30 | VIad | I need one of those, hehe, but the plug here looks nothing like that one http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=314057#reviews |
| 16:13.00 | karl_w_w | because that's a thingo |
| 16:13.06 | karl_w_w | different thing i forgot the name of |
| 16:13.06 | foxlit | okay, so it's not a power supply plug |
| 16:13.18 | foxlit | what other cable could possibly go into a sata device? |
| 16:13.20 | VIad | the white cable seems to go in the PSU |
| 16:13.41 | VIad | and all I saw was it said "type 3" on the end of the cable that goes into the PSU itself |
| 16:14.02 | foxlit | look again. |
| 16:14.06 | VIad | hmm |
| 16:14.24 | VIad | I've hooked up my new HDD using the SATA cable |
| 16:14.29 | VIad | but it doesn't show up on the hardware |
| 16:14.40 | VIad | I assumed it's because I don't have the power cable (the white cable :P) |
| 16:14.51 | VIad | so I need to buy one but having hard time figuring out the name of that type hehe |
| 16:15.08 | VIad | my other HDD have the same setup, SATA cable with the white dongle cable going into the PSU |
| 16:15.10 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr-98jpdwKk |
| 16:15.36 | VIad | ah so the small white one goes into the motherboard |
| 16:15.45 | VIad | hmm |
| 16:15.52 | VIad | looking at your video :P |
| 16:16.08 | foxlit | we're so revoking your technology license. |
| 16:16.39 | VIad | I don't have a workplace where I can work with new hardware |
| 16:17.05 | Fisker | nope Adys |
| 16:17.06 | Fisker | mad much? |
| 16:17.07 | VIad | only know IDE and standard powercables, SATA drives are probably the same, only the connections have new names |
| 16:17.28 | foxlit | because at the rate this is going, we're probably going to find out that you plugged a USB device into your cat. |
| 16:18.11 | karl_w_w | haha |
| 16:18.27 | foxlit | But just to be clear, in your image, the power cable is the one composed of five distinct wires. The cable with the white plug is a sata data cable. |
| 16:18.37 | VIad | hmm |
| 16:18.41 | VIad | why does it say SATA on the black cable? |
| 16:18.49 | VIad | :P |
| 16:18.53 | foxlit | because it connects to a SATA device. |
| 16:19.03 | VIad | and why isnt the sata cable red like most other sata cables |
| 16:19.07 | VIad | damn it |
| 16:19.35 | karl_w_w | because many cables come out of a power supply and it is useful to label the one that powers sata devices. the other cable does not say sata on it because it is a sata cable |
| 16:20.16 | VIad | weird that the power cable is larger than the data cable |
| 16:20.17 | VIad | :p |
| 16:20.23 | VIad | the power cable has more pins, hehe |
| 16:20.30 | VIad | if indeed the black one is the power |
| 16:20.42 | karl_w_w | it's almost as if they found a way to serialize data connections |
| 16:20.58 | VIad | hehe |
| 16:21.34 | VIad | thanks for helping me figure it out |
| 16:22.06 | VIad | the motherboard should have more room for more HDD |
| 16:22.15 | VIad | the case has like 10+ drive slots :P |
| 16:22.50 | VIad | and it's a new motherboard, has like 6 or 9 SATA connectors on the back of the machine for external drives |
| 16:23.10 | VIad | btw nice comment http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/battlepettabs#c60 :P |
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| 16:25.24 | TC-work | http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-06/difference-between-geek-and-nerd-infographic |
| 16:25.54 | VIad | seems like gamer is at the top of both |
| 16:26.36 | TC-work | I suspect it is the console bit pushing it up toward geeky |
| 16:27.34 | Unkle | So.. battle.net web stuff all fubar? |
| 16:30.06 | VIad | btw can the browser domain policy be tricked with dns/host editing? |
| 16:30.39 | VIad | i.e. you hijack the google.com to point to your server and then make some code that reads from sub.google.com or something - would the browser allow that? |
| 16:30.46 | VIad | since the domain is google.com after all |
| 16:33.30 | Shadowed | Maybe the HTTP one, yes |
| 16:33.49 | VIad | hmm |
| 16:34.09 | Shadowed | But it depends what browser you're using |
| 16:34.14 | airtonix | you'd run into problems if the server uses any kind of csrf though |
| 16:34.28 | Shadowed | Because Chrome and FF both do SSL cert pinning which should make doing that on HTTPS not possible |
| 16:34.34 | VIad | yeah |
| 16:35.11 | VIad | it's just that I noticed google doesn't let you show http://www.google.com/calendar/ig from a iframe |
| 16:35.14 | VIad | kind of lame :( |
| 16:35.39 | airtonix | why |
| 16:35.43 | VIad | probably made it only show it if you don't have a referer or something (as you can access it by opening it) or if the referer is from google domain |
| 16:35.46 | airtonix | you're supposed to use the api |
| 16:35.46 | VIad | dunno :P |
| 16:35.58 | VIad | I just want to login to google |
| 16:36.08 | airtonix | no you don't |
| 16:36.19 | airtonix | otherwsie you'd open chrome and login to google |
| 16:36.32 | VIad | I want my starting tab to show my mail and calendar |
| 16:36.33 | VIad | from google |
| 16:37.04 | airtonix | i would use the api and build an angular app to consume the api |
| 16:37.05 | VIad | without having to use their api as it requires authenticating myself as developer and a lot of more work to make it happen :P |
| 16:37.25 | airtonix | seems like it's going to be the only way |
| 16:37.26 | VIad | the idea is anyone that is logged into google can in theory go to the page and see their own stuff in iframes |
| 16:37.50 | airtonix | you will submit to my supremacy |
| 16:38.17 | VIad | :P |
| 16:39.35 | VIad | hesus kristu - browsing trough my youtube history to find ONE video that I watched like a half year ago |
| 16:39.47 | VIad | thanks youtube for not having the ability to search my history by tags or what not |
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| 17:01.23 | haste | T |
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| 17:20.22 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 17:21.57 | Fisker | no? |
| 17:22.00 | Fisker | NOT HEY?! |
| 17:22.14 | Fisker | throws a chair at haste |
| 17:23.05 | Fisker | :( |
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| 17:35.38 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 17:35.43 | haste | was barbecuing! |
| 17:35.57 | Fisker | that doesn't even make sense |
| 17:36.08 | haste | indeed it doesn't |
| 17:36.45 | cogwheel | haste: are you smoky and tender now? |
| 17:37.05 | haste | possibly |
| 17:37.09 | haste | and slightly warm |
| 17:38.01 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 17:38.33 | cogwheel | hay |
| 17:38.37 | cogwheel | heigh |
| 17:38.44 | cogwheel | heeeeeeyyyyyy |
| 17:39.33 | Fisker | HEY |
| 17:41.05 | Unkle | We've secretly replaced Cogwheel's usual caffeine with new Cocaine Crystals instant blend. Let's watch what happens. |
| 17:42.14 | cogwheel | Nah… we ran out of our mexican coke at work |
| 17:42.31 | kd3 | ooh, horror |
| 17:42.43 | Unkle | Nooooooo! |
| 17:43.14 | kd3 | hm, steam's started a sale |
| 17:43.24 | kullervo | big surprise |
| 17:43.34 | kd3 | knocks ~200 items out of his feed reader |
| 17:44.16 | Unkle | Wait, is there ever NOT a sale on Steam? |
| 17:54.06 | mikma | fisker: steam cards can be achieved from Magicka now |
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| 17:54.20 | TC-work | ~ping |
| 17:54.20 | purl | ~pong |
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| 18:03.52 | TC-work | ~logs |
| 18:03.52 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://purl.rikers.org/%23wowuidev/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. |
| 18:07.13 | zenzelezz | "You me no say kind leaf box triangle"... quality guild name |
| 18:07.32 | Lopeppeppy | Bless you? |
| 18:09.15 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:22.34 | karl_w_w | http://kotaku.com/5958307/this-kinect-patent-is-terrifying-wants-to-charge-you-for-license-violation lol |
| 18:31.29 | kd3 | er... the only kind of "cultivation" I can think of for this plant would be applied via flamethrower: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-22967160 |
| 18:35.26 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 18:35.31 | bluspacecow | *runs away* |
| 18:38.23 | VIad | I told you yesterday, just because they alter xbox one to be less of a jerk, doesn |
| 18:38.33 | VIad | doesn't mean that the business practice of microsoft is good for us :P |
| 18:39.17 | karl_w_w | that's always how it starts, one minute it's a big spiny plant, the next it's snagged a radioactive cat and before you know it that are 8 foot tall plantcats running around hunting people down with spine launchers |
| 18:40.58 | VIad | so the future is companies having total control over our habits to improve their marketing? |
| 18:41.12 | VIad | at what point do people start to see that what they do now will affect them in the future? :P |
| 18:43.37 | alestane | Strangleweed! |
| 18:44.44 | VIad | btw if you use facebook it's your fault, because kinect is stage 2 of the companies plan :P |
| 18:45.53 | Unkle | ./tinfoilhat |
| 18:46.20 | VIad | you know facebook sell marketing data to companies |
| 18:46.26 | VIad | about what their users do |
| 18:47.10 | VIad | microsoft wants to join in apparently, using visual data about your hobbies too - don't even have to be using a specific browser hehe |
| 18:47.20 | Unkle | Of course I know that. There's a distinct reason I quit using Facebook. I didn't feel I was getting value commensurate to the privacy that I was giving up. |
| 18:48.12 | VIad | on the subject of corporations; why can't people in movies ever hit their target? |
| 18:48.14 | Unkle | But if you REALLY want to bake your noodle - http://www.cio.com/article/734512/New_Wi_Fi_based_Gesture_Control_Will_Make_Your_Entire_House_Smart |
| 18:48.24 | VIad | yeah I saw that too Unkle |
| 18:48.31 | TC-work | Heh, I don't even use my real name on FB |
| 18:48.48 | TC-work | steam on the other hand, that's important. |
| 18:48.55 | Unkle | FBI gun fire statistics for shootings show that a very high percentage of shots fired in combat never hit their target. |
| 18:49.00 | VIad | Unkle: stage 3 is when all wireless technology becomes tracking technology to know where you are at all times :D |
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| 18:49.31 | VIad | but hey |
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| 18:49.44 | VIad | look on the bright side - your router at home can triangulate where you left your keys :P |
| 18:49.52 | Unkle | VIad: Go read this - http://www.davidbrin.com/transparentsociety.html |
| 18:50.51 | karl_w_w | <Unkle> FBI gun fire statistics for shootings show that a very high percentage of shots fired in combat never hit their target. <- is this supposed to be surprising or something? |
| 18:50.55 | VIad | I don't like reading about these things, because it makes me loose more hope for the future :( |
| 18:51.00 | Unkle | I'm just saying you've gotten a little hyperbolic and are approaching the "alienate my audience with ranting, even if the ranting is justified." |
| 18:51.14 | VIad | Unkle: me? |
| 18:51.21 | Unkle | VIad: Yes. |
| 18:51.27 | Unkle | Hence my /tinfoilhat joke |
| 18:51.39 | VIad | ah |
| 18:52.18 | VIad | companies never reveal their agenda tough, and what little they say brings often a lot of questions to the table :P |
| 18:52.22 | VIad | government too I guess |
| 18:53.27 | VIad | I guess what I am saying is a little /tinfoilhat isn't a bad thing ;D |
| 18:53.44 | zenzelezz | I'd rather have aluminium |
| 18:54.15 | karl_w_w | I'd rather have cotton. |
| 18:54.23 | VIad | I'd rather have some food atm |
| 18:54.55 | Unkle | NYPD shooting stats show a 43% hit rate at the most generous reading of the data and as low as 17%. So movies showing lots of bullets flying and no one hitting anything... pretty realistic. |
| 18:55.18 | VIad | oh btw, in norway they passed a law that allows businesses (like copyright related companies) to query the government for information about an IP |
| 18:56.27 | karl_w_w | is that all? |
| 18:56.31 | TC-work | Unkle: It all depends. Like the NYPD, the LAPD has shit accuracy. However SWAT taken on it's own has a very high percentage. |
| 18:56.35 | VIad | for now |
| 18:56.35 | karl_w_w | In australia we have no rights |
| 18:56.54 | VIad | but I was thinking, use this against those that pass these laws |
| 18:57.09 | VIad | i.e. when their child downloads a song, catch them using the laws they passed themselves :P |
| 18:57.12 | VIad | haha |
| 18:57.35 | Unkle | TC-work: Most shooters with handguns have shit accuracy. SWAT tends to use a lot of rifles and people who've focused a lot on marksmanship. |
| 18:57.39 | karl_w_w | http://delimiter.com.au/2013/06/19/get-a-warrant-ludlam-net-privacy-bill-lands-in-senate/ |
| 18:58.02 | karl_w_w | tl;dr: In a speech to the Senate yesterday with reference to the bill, Ludlam pointed out that currently Australian law enforcement agencies were able to access vast amounts of private data without getting a warrant, including data pertaining to telephone calls, emails, Internet access and the geographical location of mobile telephones. |
| 18:58.09 | TC-work | Unkle: Most shooters with Rifles have shit accuracy as well. It's more about the use than the weapon. |
| 18:58.25 | karl_w_w | that bill will fail btw |
| 18:58.38 | Unkle | TC-work: Yes. Combat situations mostly tend to be about "putting a lot of lead down range" |
| 18:58.57 | VIad | karl_w_w: isn' the problem that people try to pass laws like this without worrying about what it really entails? |
| 18:59.22 | karl_w_w | no |
| 18:59.37 | karl_w_w | the problem is they don't care about our rights |
| 19:00.09 | karl_w_w | the problem is some stupid amount like 70 |
| 19:00.18 | karl_w_w | 70% of media in aus is owned by murdoch |
| 19:00.58 | VIad | it's almost a crime bringing children to this world of uncertainty :P |
| 19:01.09 | VIad | what the future holds, dunno, could be a lame one |
| 19:01.23 | VIad | just hoping I die of old age before that happens, hehe |
| 19:02.43 | VIad | Unkle: is /tinfoilhat appropriate? |
| 19:03.23 | TC-work | s/use/user/ |
| 19:03.28 | TC-work | meh |
| 19:03.33 | VIad | too late TC-work |
| 19:03.49 | TC-work | It's never too late. |
| 19:04.20 | Unkle | Yeah. People have been making the very same argument you just made for the last several decades - and the truth is the world has never been safer or less violent than it is right now. And you don't live under the specter of Mutually Assured Destruction. |
| 19:04.43 | VIad | yeah but privacy seems to be more at risk than before |
| 19:04.50 | VIad | I think it counts too :P |
| 19:05.47 | Unkle | No, the ease with which your privacy is violated is increased - but honestly - it wasn't until VERY recently that people had any real expectation of privacy at all. |
| 19:07.05 | Unkle | But technology - cameras, internet, smartphones, databases - the seeds of which have been around since the 1960s - all just accelerate the process. |
| 19:07.08 | karl_w_w | yes but nobody cared before |
| 19:07.48 | karl_w_w | your privacy wasn't violated because it wasn't convenient or interesting :P |
| 19:07.52 | VIad | the government didn't build a base that can hold up to 5 zettabyte of data of the stuff you do |
| 19:08.10 | VIad | now they do, thus making people care more about their privacy |
| 19:09.16 | Unkle | karl_w_w: No they cared. The 4th Amendment to the US Constitution is a direct result of abuses by the British Crown upon the privacy of citizens. And every nation (including the US) build vast compilations of paper files on citizenry around the the time of WWII and then even more so in the "Cold War" |
| 19:10.02 | Unkle | Every place in the world that has privacy laws now is a direct result of abuses that came before. But laws take time. Tech and social change happens faster. |
| 19:10.26 | VIad | seems that companies try to push tyranical laws by lobbying |
| 19:10.59 | Unkle | You could ALWAYS violate privacy with a camera before. But now cameras - good ones - are cheap enough and ubiquitous enough that people are NOTICING. |
| 19:12.09 | pompy | anyone who preordreed the nvidia SHIELD... https://www.facebook.com/NVIDIAGeForce/posts/609720905714037 |
| 19:13.15 | nebula169_ | how much was it before? |
| 19:14.25 | pompy | no idea! |
| 19:14.25 | mikma | http://youtu.be/tZ2X8PHAI6Y |
| 19:14.59 | pompy | nebula169_: $350 |
| 19:21.41 | pompy | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=635892286440773&set=a.133548883341785.20130.133409023355771&type=1 oops? |
| 19:27.48 | bluspacecow | imma go to bed. cause it's cold :( |
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| 19:43.44 | Taborious | is there a way to pass frame name as variable for UIDropDown_ functions? example... |
| 19:44.27 | Taborious | UIDropDownMenu_Initialize(var1, var2) - var1 being the frame name and var2 being the function name |
| 19:45.07 | VIad | Taborious: the dropdown system handles its own frame names, if you mean the name of the frame that is the dropdown itself |
| 19:46.09 | Taborious | i have 2 columns of 15 dropdowns, so 30 dropdown menus. I dont want to write 30 function I want to write one loop that parses through all 30 |
| 19:46.25 | VIad | but you feed the frame trough the init function |
| 19:46.28 | VIad | so you can just do that :P |
| 19:46.43 | VIad | make a table to keep all your "var1" objects |
| 19:46.48 | Taborious | i dont understand |
| 19:46.49 | VIad | and iterate the table |
| 19:46.56 | VIad | show me your code ;) |
| 19:47.49 | Taborious | http://pastebin.com/jVjpYSwT |
| 19:47.59 | Taborious | thats a small piece |
| 19:48.16 | VIad | remember that you pass strings to your UIDropDownMenu_Initialize |
| 19:48.33 | VIad | http://www.wowpedia.org/API_UIDropDownMenu_Initialize |
| 19:48.45 | VIad | var1 is the frame that inherits UIDropDownMenuTemplate |
| 19:48.52 | VIad | var2 is the function that is used to display the menu |
| 19:48.55 | Taborious | I actually have 31 dropdown menus one selects a battleground, after the BG is selected it trigger an update function to update the 30 dropdown menus with informatio specific for the BG selected |
| 19:49.02 | VIad | you only call init once |
| 19:49.30 | Taborious | call init once per frame DDM ??? |
| 19:50.14 | Taborious | UIDropDownMenu_Initialize(Column2o3, BGPlanner_Initialize_Column2o3) |
| 19:50.29 | Taborious | works when I write 15 of them one for each DDM |
| 19:50.38 | Taborious | in each column |
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| 19:51.09 | VIad | I think you use the function wrong :) |
| 19:51.41 | VIad | just a demonstration http://wowprogramming.com/snippets/Create_UI-styled_dropdown_menu_10 |
| 19:53.16 | VIad | if you want to update the dropdown menus, I think there is another way to do this, as you are only supposed to use UIDropDownMenu_Initialize once to set up the frame to function with ToggleDropDownMenu |
| 19:54.59 | Taborious | looking |
| 19:55.03 | VIad | yeah |
| 19:55.18 | VIad | I mean dealing with dropdowns can be a bit confusing if you haven't used it before |
| 19:57.27 | Esamynn|work | heh, that's an understatement |
| 19:57.43 | Taborious | and i havent. i looked at the code and the issue with the wowprogramming example is it refernces the frame by name... UIDropDownMenu_SetSelectedID(DropDownMenuTest, self:GetID()) also all other UIDRp... refernce the name DropDownMenuTest |
| 19:57.58 | Taborious | I have so many DDMs that I need to use a varaiable to refernce them |
| 19:58.51 | Taborious | Im changing the data in the DDM that is why I re-initialize, or at least think that is why im doing it |
| 20:01.36 | Taborious | i created 30 init functions and 30 setselectedID and 30 calls tot he 30 functions, UHG, it worked BUT i need a better way because im running into other issues with updating the DDMs in other areas of the addon |
| 20:02.32 | Taborious | having to specifically reference each DDM by its indivudual name is killing me since I dont understand how to do it with varaibles |
| 20:04.24 | Taborious | Vlad, how do I use that "another way" work, not famailiar with toggledropdownmenu |
| 20:05.22 | nebula169_ | you don't need to reinit, after calling UIDropDownMenu_Initialize, or just setting the 'initialize' key on the ddm frame to your init function without calling UIDropDownMenu_Initialize, it'll be run every time you use toggle menu |
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| 20:07.54 | Taborious | my init function.... i guess that is an issue to. I have to have 30 init function to call with toggle menu. because I have to reference EACH frame by its individual name, thats 30 names for my addon |
| 20:08.37 | nebula169_ | you're probably doing something really wrong, then |
| 20:08.57 | Taborious | how can i set up a loop to cycle through 30 DDMs. No doubt I am doing something wrong |
| 20:09.29 | Taborious | ill expand on what im trying to accomplish |
| 20:09.54 | nebula169_ | just set .initialize= your_init_function on each frame when you create it |
| 20:10.15 | Taborious | I have 31 DDMs, 31 allows someone to select a battleground. once selected I need to update the other 30 DDMs with that BGs pecific information |
| 20:11.33 | Taborious | ok, to my init function. I get that, but within my init function i have to reference those 30DDMs seperately |
| 20:11.35 | nebula169_ | you don't need to change the init functions, just have the function look at a variable that is changed |
| 20:11.56 | Taborious | the varaible changed, thinking about that.... |
| 20:13.12 | nebula169_ | like when you're generating the menu entries, iterate over myMenuSettings[selectedInstance], myMenuSettings being a big static table of settings, selectedInstance being a variable that changes |
| 20:13.15 | Taborious | if im getting you correctly I do... the BG select works fine...more |
| 20:13.29 | nebula169_ | kind of a generic example |
| 20:15.30 | Taborious | the BG select DDM, someone picks AB, then populate the other 30 DDMs with LM,BS.. if they select SWG, then set 30DDMs selections to Off, Def, FC, if BG selected is Eye set 30 other DDMs to MT, FR, DR, etc... |
| 20:16.19 | Taborious | i have to update the other DDMs based off the selection. I thought i had to re-init after changing the values |
| 20:17.40 | Taborious | guess im just really lost |
| 20:18.41 | nebula169_ | when you open the menu, it'll refresh automagically based on the init function, no need to force it |
| 20:20.00 | Taborious | i init it to refresh the screen also, to set all the DDMs default selection to index1 which says "No Assignment" so its not showing the selection from the previous BG selection |
| 20:21.21 | Taborious | If I dont re-init it still shows the last option selected in that menu. now when I click on it as you mentioned the menu is updated, but the old data is still shown that was previously selected |
| 20:22.33 | VIad | Taborious: I feel sorry for you :( |
| 20:22.54 | VIad | but I recomment looking at how the functions work in http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser/live/FrameXML/UIDropDownMenu.lua |
| 20:23.06 | VIad | because they probably have the ability to pass a update argument or something :) |
| 20:24.16 | Taborious | Ive copied my code that is the "doer" part maybe it will make more sense that im making... http://pastebin.com/vPbSaX96 |
| 20:24.49 | nebula169_ | can't get on wow to tinker, but i'd imagine you just iterate over all of the dropdowns and change the selectedValue |
| 20:24.50 | VIad | oh boy |
| 20:25.14 | VIad | I think you need a crash course in the "self" variable, Taborious :P |
| 20:25.18 | nebula169_ | yeaaaa |
| 20:25.24 | Taborious | i most certainly do |
| 20:25.47 | Taborious | it was the only way to get it to work, or at least work to this point |
| 20:26.52 | VIad | you have a lot of functions and globals |
| 20:26.59 | VIad | you probably only need like 5 in total if done right :P |
| 20:27.31 | Taborious | Ive tried to get self to work but i dont understand it liek i should. Ive tried to pull the name of the DDM from self, self.name but its not right it come sback DropDownMenu1index2 or something liek that and that isnt the name |
| 20:27.58 | Taborious | well, right and what I know are 2 different things, its why im here |
| 20:28.08 | VIad | for example your BG_Planner_DDMOnClick_Column2o1 |
| 20:28.20 | nebula169_ | so you just need one init function with info.func = function() UIDropDownMenu_SetSelectedID(self, self:GetID()) end, for like most of that, lol |
| 20:28.22 | VIad | you can probably just make it a "local function OnClick(self) end" |
| 20:28.36 | VIad | nebula169_: that still creates a function per item |
| 20:28.41 | VIad | better to make one function and reference it |
| 20:28.43 | nebula169_ | baby steps |
| 20:28.51 | VIad | hehe |
| 20:29.01 | VIad | nebula169_: you help him, I suck at explaining when I eat dinner :P |
| 20:29.04 | Taborious | lol, yes babysteps |
| 20:29.48 | Taborious | i will try your code snippet and see if it works |
| 20:29.57 | Taborious | info.func.... |
| 20:30.01 | VIad | yeah |
| 20:30.07 | VIad | info being the option in the menu |
| 20:30.13 | VIad | that object |
| 20:30.32 | nebula169_ | i think you can set info.arg1 = self then use an upvalue like vlad said |
| 20:30.35 | Taborious | i swear i already tried that as Ive been to every site you posted links to before. been banging on this for a month now |
| 20:31.29 | VIad | your problem is you need to learn more about how lua works I think |
| 20:31.48 | VIad | as you'd figure this out much easier with some more experience how objects work in lua :) |
| 20:32.59 | Taborious | no doubt, but im my only help, well now you guys and google which isnt easy understanding all the examples |
| 20:38.06 | VIad | btw don't you only need one menu? |
| 20:38.11 | VIad | for your addon :) |
| 20:38.22 | VIad | when you click something and you see a menu come up, that's 1 dropdown menu |
| 20:38.45 | VIad | not sure why you'd need more, you only need to change what the menu shows when you open it, you can reuse the same DDM ;) |
| 20:38.57 | Taborious | no, its a premade, so im assigning roles for each person primary and secondary so need a 2x DDM for each person |
| 20:39.15 | VIad | do you look at all the DDM at the same time? |
| 20:39.41 | VIad | if you only see one at a time, you only need one for all of them :D |
| 20:39.56 | Taborious | look at them? once all the seelections are made you click the annoucne button and it annoucenes in chat the assignments based off the selections |
| 20:40.17 | Taborious | to the raid |
| 20:40.21 | VIad | yeah but |
| 20:40.24 | Taborious | rbg raid |
| 20:40.44 | Taborious | go ahead |
| 20:41.42 | VIad | just that a dropdown menu is that one menu you see on screen with a lot of items in it |
| 20:41.47 | VIad | not sure why you need more than one |
| 20:42.05 | VIad | these dropdown menus can be updated to change what they show dynamically |
| 20:42.09 | VIad | you dont need one per person |
| 20:42.39 | VIad | believe it or not but the game uses one dropdown frame for almost all the dropdowns :P |
| 20:42.59 | VIad | you just dont see it - but the limit is one menu can only be visible at one time as the frame is re-used |
| 20:44.27 | nebula169_ | vlad, thats all ddm do? the frame you create is just a button, the actual list is just one frame thats shared with all ddms |
| 20:44.51 | VIad | isn't it? that's how I remember it |
| 20:45.05 | VIad | just /fstack and look at dropdowns, they usually share the same frame name, or two :P |
| 20:46.08 | Taborious | well, i could use one DDM and populate another frame with the value but then id have to have a mechanism to re-assign someone or go back to player X |
| 20:47.07 | VIad | you trigger showing the DDM by clicking or something |
| 20:47.13 | VIad | thats when you decide what is shown |
| 20:47.31 | Taborious | info.func = function() UIDropDownMenu_SetSelectedID(self, self:GetID()) that works fine but that wasnt the section that was an issue, it changing the 30 DDMs for the new BG selection and repopulating that an issue |
| 20:52.19 | VIad | half life 2 episode 3 any date yet? |
| 20:52.29 | kd3 | Soon(TM) |
| 20:52.42 | VIad | stop abusing the word "soon" |
| 20:53.33 | kd3 | valve and blizz both do it. so can we |
| 20:53.38 | kd3 | https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time |
| 20:54.23 | VIad | should be honest and say "don't know" :D |
| 20:55.11 | VIad | kd3: how do I pronounce your name? |
| 20:55.19 | kd3 | 'kay dee three' |
| 20:55.30 | VIad | whats the story? :) |
| 20:55.33 | Unkle | He's like R2D2, only he speaks English. |
| 20:56.33 | kd3 | when I first got online and on irc... back in '98? my nick could be abbreviated as k_d. I've kept some form of that ever since. my only real wow character was the third one I created, so, it's "Kaydeethree" |
| 20:56.56 | VIad | I wonder why kaydeethree :P |
| 20:57.06 | VIad | randomly made up? sounds inspired from something |
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| 20:59.23 | Torhal | VIad: Soon(™), then. |
| 21:01.05 | Taborious | Vlad and Neb, thanks for the help. Ill bang on it some more and try to get it working |
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| 21:27.04 | bleeter | kd3: '98? such a baby! |
| 21:27.11 | bleeter | :P |
| 21:28.09 | TC-work | first time I got on irc was mid 2000's |
| 21:28.59 | bleeter | cries |
| 21:29.19 | TC-work | Really bleeter? |
| 21:29.29 | bleeter | TC-work: GET OFF MY LAWN!!!1! |
| 21:29.50 | kd3 | emails away |
| 21:29.52 | TC-work | bleeter: that's not to be confused with internet access |
| 21:30.26 | bleeter | TC-work: are you sure? kids these days are very easily confused about interweb stuffs |
| 21:31.14 | TC-work | bleeter: Quite so old chap, why I was downloading porn way back in the day. |
| 21:31.35 | bleeter | VIad: HL2Ep3 won't happen before Portal2 goes final on Steam Linux (I have nothing to 'prove' this, except obvious obviousness) |
| 21:32.00 | bleeter | VIad: and we're still waiting for P2 Beta on Linux |
| 21:32.02 | VIad | ohh |
| 21:32.11 | Torhal | '89 here. |
| 21:32.59 | bleeter | I'm so old I can't remember when I cracked me 'net virginity |
| 21:34.21 | TC-work | But Picasso immortalized it in art. |
| 21:35.51 | End | huh, 9 max creatures per encounter |
| 21:36.09 | End | oh that's just the EJ |
| 21:36.43 | Unkle | bleeter, Torhal, TC-work - Newbs. |
| 21:37.21 | Torhal | Unkle: BoFH. |
| 21:37.31 | Unkle | Torhal: Yes. |
| 21:38.59 | TC-work | I just read that as Heaven and mentally make fun of people. |
| 21:41.59 | Torhal | TC-work: Bible Orgies from Heaven? |
| 21:42.51 | TC-work | It's a little o Torhal, not a big one. |
| 21:43.17 | Unkle | well played TC-work, well played. |
| 21:44.45 | TC-work | http://www.mapbox.com/labs/twitter-gnip/brands/#12/34.0316/-118.3282 |
| 21:44.51 | TC-work | That is very interesting |
| 21:45.04 | TC-work | that's a breakdown of iphone vs android in los angeles |
| 21:45.31 | TC-work | the areas that are more red are the more expensive areas |
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| 21:46.45 | Unkle | William Gibson tweeted about this yesterday. iPhones tend to belong to wealthier people. *shrug* |
| 21:47.45 | nebula169_ | can't you get an iphone 4 as a freebie phone on new plans now? |
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| 21:48.17 | TC-work | Most people tend to stick with an env |
| 21:48.31 | Unkle | The results are pretty consistent too. |
| 21:48.42 | Unkle | For example, check NYC. |
| 21:48.43 | nebula169_ | ahso |
| 21:48.48 | TC-work | Yea |
| 21:49.28 | Unkle | Another author put it this way "The wealthy use iOS, everyone else uses Android." |
| 21:49.57 | Semlar | the poor don't have smart phones |
| 21:50.08 | nebula169_ | sure they do |
| 21:50.11 | Unkle | TC-work: Zoom that map out and take in the SF Bay Area. It's almost all red. |
| 21:50.24 | TC-work | Unkle: Yea. |
| 21:50.41 | Unkle | Semlar: "poor" in the USA is pretty wealthy compared to most of the world. |
| 21:51.18 | TC-work | Personally I want to get a wm phone |
| 21:51.53 | Unkle | I'm seriously considering a Windows Phone 8 |
| 21:52.05 | TC-work | I just wish they had a native google voice app |
| 21:52.15 | TC-work | I don't want to use a 3rd party one |
| 21:52.34 | Torhal | Unkle: http://www.mapbox.com/labs/twitter-gnip/brands/#12/34.7348/-86.6670 <-- Huntsville |
| 21:53.47 | Unkle | look at all you Android nerds in fly-over country... (I'm KIDDING) |
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| 21:55.55 | Unkle | Another factor to consider in the data set is that it is from tweets and only for those who have location reporting turned on. |
| 21:57.35 | bleeter | having never owned an iPhone, I dunno, but does iOS make as big a deal as Android when switching on location services? |
| 21:57.53 | Unkle | And I wonder how the visualization would change if they used only primary colors instead of shades. Red is a pretty dominant color. |
| 21:58.18 | bleeter | red is a terrible colour for points on a map with a black background yes |
| 21:58.23 | Unkle | bleeter: At set up you're asked to turn it on or off, and in iOS 6+ you can fine tune it by app |
| 22:01.22 | Unkle | Even more interesting... compare iphone vis android maps on a national map - the maps are very similar but the iphone shows more densely. |
| 22:03.02 | zenzelezz | shows what more densely? |
| 22:03.22 | Unkle | tweet usage. |
| 22:06.25 | Mr_Rabies | weird that none of my gorillion addons have had any updates in the past 5 days or so according to curse client D: |
| 22:06.39 | Mr_Rabies | i'm a total update addict |
| 22:09.24 | bleeter | 1. submit patches 2. ??? 3. profit! |
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| 22:35.35 | TC-work | I don't know why but "Throwing exceptions from an event handler is not supported in Qt." that amused me greatly. |
| 22:37.24 | zenzelezz | nothing eventful like that should happen in event handlers |
| 22:37.59 | TC-work | "I'm sorry, but you are not allowed to have an error." |
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| 23:42.36 | TC-work | http://i.imgur.com/ce95i1k.jpg Most awesome name ever. |
| 23:42.59 | Sintacks | anyone know how to move the fps display |
| 23:44.47 | TC-work | the built in one? |
| 23:45.58 | Sintacks | yeah |
| 23:46.34 | TC-work | There is no core way to do it. Possibly with move anything or whatever has replaced it now. |
| 23:58.47 | nebula169_ | FramerateLabel is probably the frame to move around if you want to use the blizzard one for some reason |
| 23:59.18 | nebula169_ | rather, its a fontstring |
