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| 00:39.03 | TC-work | Wow, that new google maps things hoses my system |
| 00:39.29 | Arrowmaster | but its cool though |
| 00:40.39 | bleeter | TC-work: get a mac |
| 00:42.57 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: my phone tells me to wish you a happy birthday |
| 00:44.12 | Arrowmaster | considering timezones, you are about two days late but hey its still in the topic too |
| 00:44.18 | Arrowmaster | thanks |
| 00:45.03 | Torhal | Arrowmaster grows a year older for every day it's in the topic. |
| 00:45.20 | bleeter | Torhal: so that'd make Arrowmaster what... about 8 now? |
| 00:45.38 | Torhal | Ouch! |
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| 01:03.54 | TC-work | bleeter: Soon. |
| 01:08.28 | bleeter | TC-work: you getting one of those leet Mac Pro thingies? |
| 01:08.43 | TC-work | bleeter: Air I suspect. |
| 01:09.10 | bleeter | TC-work: https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/943397fb205b424e33e47a75f6c090b8/tumblr_mo70dp0KnS1spnm0ro1_500.gif |
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| 01:22.02 | bleeter | http://i.imgur.com/XH0CoHU.gif |
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| 01:52.07 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/9280218469#12 |
| 01:52.12 | bluspacecow | lololol mr paranoid |
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| 01:54.23 | bleeter | haha md5 |
| 01:55.43 | Shirik | http://obamaischeckingyouremail.tumblr.com/ |
| 01:55.48 | Shirik | ｂぇえてｒ |
| 01:55.51 | Shirik | er |
| 01:55.52 | Shirik | bleeter |
| 01:56.00 | Shirik | we all know that md5 is very secure |
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| 02:06.09 | bleeter | https://github.com/goshakkk/nsa_panel |
| 02:07.00 | Shirik | waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat |
| 02:07.01 | Shirik | http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57547697-1/ancient-d20-die-emerges-from-the-ashes-of-time/ |
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| 02:38.26 | Cairenn | Shirik: yeah, pretty cool hey? |
| 02:40.30 | bluspacecow | ….. |
| 02:40.37 | bluspacecow | its cleaner then my D20 |
| 02:40.42 | bluspacecow | motherofgod.jpg |
| 02:41.06 | Thunder_Child | My D20's are pristine. |
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| 03:18.03 | kd3 | grah. "kd3, my ancient computer is slowing down." ... it's probably weaker than my phone at this point |
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| 03:35.14 | nightcracker_ | why doesn't my keybinding get the appropriate name? I have something like this in my bindings.txt: <Binding name="RELOADUI">, and in my Lua I have BINDING_NAME_RELOADUI = "Reload the UI." |
| 03:35.24 | nightcracker_ | yet the blizzard keybinding screen shows RELOADUI |
| 03:38.38 | nightcracker_ | nevermind, I was editing the wrong file after a rename |
| 04:17.00 | Fisker | like me Shirik |
| 04:17.18 | Thunder_Child | Lie to me Fisker |
| 04:17.30 | Fisker | hey Thunder_Child you are awesome |
| 04:18.10 | Thunder_Child | I knew you could never lie to me Fisker |
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| 04:30.07 | kd3 | emails out (it's special!) |
| 04:33.34 | Shirik | special?! |
| 04:33.39 | Shirik | why do I not get an email :( |
| 04:37.08 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 04:37.45 | Fisker | if i write penis kd3 |
| 04:37.47 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 04:37.48 | Fisker | do i still get mails? |
| 04:38.03 | kd3 | sure, fisker, if you want |
| 04:38.07 | Fisker | so apparently Shirik |
| 04:38.12 | Fisker | Battlefield 4 is pre-alpha |
| 04:38.29 | Thunder_Child | You need to earn it. You must successfully debug code with your eyes shut. |
| 04:38.50 | Thunder_Child | That is but the first step. |
| 04:38.57 | Fisker | done it tons of times before |
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| 04:40.57 | Shirik | I debug code written by idiots |
| 04:41.07 | Iriel | Fisker: Then you must successfully defang a live viper with only the tip of your nose and a doorknob. |
| 04:41.13 | Iriel | Shirik: Funny, I do that too sometimes |
| 04:41.14 | Shirik | there have been many occasions where I have closed my eyes in pain while doing it |
| 04:41.20 | Shirik | does that count? |
| 04:42.16 | Iriel | I sometimes close my eyes while helping debug over the phone |
| 04:43.42 | kd3 | wow, a full sixth of the list has already responded |
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| 04:44.34 | Iriel | kd3: How many people is "the list" before? |
| 04:44.44 | kd3 | ~70 |
| 04:44.44 | purl | 70 are easy |
| 04:44.56 | kd3 | hahaha fisker |
| 05:05.52 | nightcracker_ | damnit, debugging my code only to find out it's a blizzard bug |
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| 05:12.47 | airtonix | So who will be buying an xbox one? |
| 05:13.07 | kd3|hate`net | teenagers who have *GOT* to play the next CoD |
| 05:13.09 | kd3|hate`net | dunno about anyone else |
| 05:13.38 | Fisker | you can play that on a ps4 |
| 05:22.54 | nebula169 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxRX6LXDpWs |
| 05:22.55 | nebula169 | lol |
| 05:43.47 | kd3 | I expect the mage forum is already qqing over the 5.4 patch notes |
| 05:54.13 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:54.26 | Semlar | what are they thinking |
| 05:55.51 | Semlar | that would basically remove a hunter's ability to interrupt in pve |
| 05:59.35 | nightcracker_ | that could be their intention |
| 05:59.52 | nightcracker_ | in fact, I don't see any other morale |
| 06:00.49 | Semlar | but i don't understand why, most classes have an interrupt on a much shorter cooldown |
| 06:01.00 | Semlar | just as a baseline ability |
| 06:01.46 | nightcracker_ | but not every class has the mobility and range of a hunter |
| 06:05.04 | Semlar | hunter's must be owning in pvp because every patch has removed another utility function |
| 06:05.32 | kd3 | ! just noticed this... All permanent item enhancements provided by Enchanting, Engineering, Leatherworking, Tailoring, and various vendors and quests are now able to be applied to items of any level. This means all enchantments can now be applied to heirloom items. |
| 06:06.31 | Dagmar | Other classes just need to smoke less pot |
| 06:07.33 | Semlar | bestial wrath doesn't make you immune to anything, they doubled the cooldown on every pet's crowd control abilities |
| 06:08.30 | Semlar | intimidation stopped being a baseline BM ability |
| 06:08.46 | Dagmar | Yeah the Bestial Wrath change was unacceptable |
| 06:09.17 | Semlar | so many pvp nerfs |
| 06:09.52 | Semlar | it's weird because the class has had these abilities for years without it being a problem |
| 06:10.01 | Semlar | i wonder what's changed |
| 06:11.47 | Semlar | hunters aren't exactly dominating the dps charts on raidbots |
| 06:12.12 | Dagmar | Too many pot smokers losing to Hunters |
| 06:13.10 | Dagmar | It's kind of fucking hard to beat another player who can hit you from two places at once, can evade out of CC, and can launch their own CC that can activate asynchronously with their other abilities |
| 06:13.29 | Dagmar | Also, hunters can now shoot you IN YOUR FUCKING FACE |
| 06:13.41 | Semlar | thank god for that change |
| 06:14.16 | Dagmar | That's probably the real issue. WIthout bitches being able to run to within arms reach and watch a hunter's output drop to that of a non-combat pet, people had to actually plan against them |
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| 06:15.03 | Dagmar | Hunters had disengage before, but it was really only good once |
| 06:15.48 | Dagmar | The BW change is going to make rogues a problem tho |
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| 06:19.56 | Dagmar | It was nice while it lasted tho |
| 06:20.19 | Dagmar | I really, really enjoyed seeing the looks on the faces of rogues at the crossroads |
| 06:20.37 | Dagmar | Like "Oh wait. they can still shoot from this range now. OOOPS" |
| 06:22.09 | Dagmar | I'm on a PvE server and I just ran around over there flagged for awhile |
| 06:22.51 | Shirik | I will stab every journalist that calls the PRISM files "confidential" |
| 06:23.10 | Dagmar | Wait... you expect them to be security-aware? |
| 06:23.37 | Shirik | I guess I shouldn't expect journalists to know much of anything |
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| 06:24.34 | Dagmar | You could *sort* of say they're confidential, but it's kind of a non-issue next to the giant billboard of "CLASSIFIED BY THE US GOVT" |
| 06:25.58 | kd3 | heh; Burden of Guilt has been replaced with a new talent called Evil is a Point of View, which allows the Paladin to use Turn Evil on players and beasts. |
| 06:26.40 | Semlar | i should probably drop blink strikes, all it does is get my pet killed more often |
| 06:27.33 | Semlar | at the start of a pull i'll be misdirecting the tank, i shoot the boss and my pet instantly teleports to it and dies |
| 06:46.19 | zenzio | a teleporting pet, that's not good |
| 06:49.54 | airtonix | no you're wrong. teleporting pets is the best tool to deal with fear |
| 06:50.09 | airtonix | especially when it's random |
| 06:58.54 | Semlar | it's useful when your pet needs to be able to move between targets because they're so slow |
| 07:11.44 | nightcracker_ | what is the maximum number of stances? NUM_STANCE_SLOTS says 10, but I've yet to see a class with 10 stances |
| 07:17.26 | Elkano | hmm... shapeshifts count as stances, too, right? |
| 07:17.54 | kd3 | yes; http://www.wowpedia.org/Macro_conditionals#form.2C_stance |
| 07:18.07 | Fisker | my guild wars 2 account is dangerous |
| 07:18.44 | Semlar | the limit on the number of slots isn't necessarily the same as the most stances any class has |
| 07:19.33 | Semlar | i think paladins might have had the most number of stance buttons with their auras before |
| 07:21.27 | Semlar | also things that aren't stances take up stance buttons like hunter aspects |
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| 07:58.16 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:00.06 | zenzio | I don't know, she's been harrassed by players for some time now |
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| 08:01.24 | zenzio | I knew the name sounded familiar, but it took a while to place |
| 08:01.57 | Kalroth | who's aunt Dononva |
| 08:02.19 | Dagmar | http://www.wowhead.com/npc=9298/donova-snowden |
| 08:02.28 | Kalroth | oh |
| 08:02.54 | zenzio | I remember spending a lot of time with her during the Ahn'Qiraj war effort, fishing |
| 08:03.04 | zenzio | whitescale salmon or something like that |
| 08:03.32 | zenzio | apparently that was not the fish |
| 08:04.58 | zenzio | wait, it was... forgot to check the "Fished in" tab >.< |
| 08:15.53 | Maldivia | I remember farming Linen in Deadmines |
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| 08:41.39 | Mr_Rabies | they really should nerf the northern barrens generals to act like the rares on thunder isle :X |
| 08:41.56 | Mr_Rabies | no one kills them on my realm anymore, they just stay up forever |
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| 08:48.57 | VIad | merging all realms, what? |
| 08:49.08 | VIad | Mr_Rabies: they drop shit |
| 08:49.15 | VIad | just not worth the effort :P |
| 08:49.26 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, exactly |
| 08:49.41 | Mr_Rabies | so make them easier to solo/scale like the raes on ToT |
| 08:49.44 | Mr_Rabies | er IoT |
| 08:49.44 | VIad | yeah |
| 08:49.59 | VIad | can't solo them atm so no one cares to initiate and go for it |
| 08:50.02 | Mr_Rabies | the challenge is fun, i guess |
| 08:50.04 | Mr_Rabies | but |
| 08:50.09 | Mr_Rabies | the reward isn't worth the risk |
| 08:50.17 | Mr_Rabies | they should still be challenging, but soloable |
| 08:50.23 | VIad | yeah |
| 08:51.34 | Mr_Rabies | also i love the virtual realms thing |
| 08:51.40 | VIad | we shall see |
| 08:51.45 | Mr_Rabies | it was exactly what i talked about...yesterday, in here :p |
| 08:52.02 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, it could be a mess, but i guess we'll see |
| 08:52.07 | Mr_Rabies | dunno how they're gonna handle guilds |
| 08:52.18 | Mr_Rabies | considering they'll be linked through virtual realms |
| 08:52.20 | VIad | say good bye to world bosses |
| 08:52.30 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 08:52.31 | VIad | gonna be lame to do with these new realms |
| 08:52.38 | VIad | especially city bosses |
| 08:52.47 | VIad | defending is always easier :P |
| 08:52.51 | Mr_Rabies | on the other hand, i can't ever do oondasta on my realm because we can't get enough people together to kill him |
| 08:52.52 | VIad | and the lag, oh, the lag |
| 08:53.15 | VIad | auchindoun is overly populated with alliance, last time I went orgrimmar for thrall we had like 2-3 full raids |
| 08:53.21 | VIad | and like 5fps :P |
| 08:53.35 | VIad | on my old machine, probably gonna be like 20 on mine hehe |
| 08:53.37 | Mr_Rabies | you probably won't see any differences then |
| 08:53.48 | Mr_Rabies | the virtual realms thing is gonna be for lower pop realms |
| 08:53.54 | VIad | just add 3-6 horde raids defending and that fps goes to 0 |
| 08:53.56 | Mr_Rabies | i doubt the bigger ones will get merged with anything |
| 08:53.56 | VIad | aha |
| 08:54.12 | Mr_Rabies | i don't know if it'll be dynamic or not |
| 08:54.15 | VIad | I dont think blizzards realms are adequate for high pop combat |
| 08:54.27 | VIad | always ends up with lag if there is any |
| 08:54.35 | Semlar | i remember raiding stormwind on magtheridon once |
| 08:54.38 | VIad | but I got to go Mr_Rabies :) |
| 08:54.39 | Semlar | we crashed the server |
| 08:54.50 | VIad | yeah that can happen too Semlar |
| 08:54.57 | Semlar | we had 6 full 40 man raids |
| 08:54.59 | Mr_Rabies | the realms crashed so many times during ahn'qiraj |
| 08:55.08 | nevcairiel | you can improve server performance by informaing a GM before such raids, so they can organize improved zone performance |
| 08:55.20 | Semlar | most of the people were teleported with warlocks and the rest all took the zeppelin at once |
| 08:55.24 | nevcairiel | blues said that on the forums on numerous occasions |
| 08:55.40 | Mr_Rabies | i think it'll get better as the dynamic load balancing comes into being |
| 08:55.47 | Semlar | apparently the zeppelin just vanished after it got into open water and dumped everyone into the ocean |
| 08:55.50 | Mr_Rabies | titan/their next mmo will probably not have "Realms" |
| 08:56.06 | nevcairiel | yeah realms are really not much of a construct anymore even in wow |
| 08:56.17 | nevcairiel | you run through the world and see people of other realms |
| 08:56.21 | Mr_Rabies | it'll probably have everyone login and it just dynamically pick where they'll be placed virtually each time they login |
| 08:56.27 | Mr_Rabies | grouping them with friends/guildies/etc |
| 08:56.40 | VIad | nevcairiel: why not just implement high player detection and auto-improve zone performance? |
| 08:56.59 | VIad | server knows best when a zone gets high amounts of load anyway :) |
| 08:56.59 | Mr_Rabies | because they're adding networking stuff to code from 2000 |
| 08:57.03 | Maldivia | biggest issue with no realms is name-clashing |
| 08:57.13 | Mr_Rabies | i'd say just have it use battletags |
| 08:57.17 | Mr_Rabies | and let names clash |
| 08:57.19 | VIad | probably will end up using battletags |
| 08:57.29 | VIad | there goes one more part of character customization ;P |
| 08:57.32 | Mr_Rabies | optionally hide battletags/the character name or show both at the client level |
| 08:57.40 | nevcairiel | well if you merge realms afterwards sure, but if you start with that from day 1, people will adapt to names being unique |
| 08:57.40 | VIad | Lothariel is taken, you'r name is now Bob#1923 |
| 08:57.53 | VIad | I am Bob#1923 the RP Elf |
| 08:58.04 | VIad | anyway -g2g :3 cya later |
| 08:58.14 | Mr_Rabies | not really a big deal if everyone's got numbers, and you can let names share for characters |
| 08:58.28 | Mr_Rabies | just use the battletag so you know LEGGOLAS is actually JIMMO#1234 |
| 08:58.37 | Mr_Rabies | and not LEGGOLAS the top rated pvper |
| 09:00.10 | Mr_Rabies | people could opt to hide battletags or character names for other players at the client level if they wanted more immersion or whatever |
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| 09:31.10 | karl_w_w | amazing tips: queue for lfr and then use your kirin tor beacon instead of flying all the way to the island |
| 09:32.37 | Semlar | now i only have to wait for the 40 minute queue |
| 09:39.45 | karl_w_w | get a friend |
| 09:39.53 | karl_w_w | preferably one that can heal or tank |
| 09:49.22 | Semlar | what if i don't have any friends |
| 09:52.28 | karl_w_w | become a healer |
| 09:52.33 | karl_w_w | or a tank |
| 09:52.44 | Semlar | i have.. mend pet |
| 09:52.45 | karl_w_w | or a mage so you can just hearth there and skip the whole process |
| 09:53.13 | karl_w_w | "Order does not meet minimum order price of $21.90" |
| 09:53.16 | karl_w_w | FU dominos |
| 09:53.26 | Semlar | minimum order price? |
| 09:53.33 | karl_w_w | for delivery |
| 09:53.44 | Semlar | is this a new thing |
| 09:54.03 | karl_w_w | not in australia |
| 09:54.29 | Semlar | that's unfortunate |
| 09:54.31 | karl_w_w | maybe where you are it's like pizza hut, where the delivery is charged on top |
| 09:54.52 | karl_w_w | nobody delivers for free surely |
| 09:55.32 | Semlar | papa johns charges a delivery fee but it doesn't go to the driver so i'm not sure if that counts |
| 09:56.08 | Semlar | i'm assuming none of them actually pay the driver the delivery fee |
| 09:56.09 | karl_w_w | i'm only 95c short |
| 09:56.23 | Semlar | they're expected to get tips |
| 09:56.36 | karl_w_w | nobody tips here |
| 09:56.57 | Semlar | what a eutopia it must be |
| 09:56.57 | karl_w_w | they actually get paid less than minimum wage because of it |
| 09:57.13 | karl_w_w | nobody is sure why they are allowed to get away with it |
| 09:57.57 | Semlar | delivering pizzas is a horrible job |
| 09:58.36 | karl_w_w | yeah, but I'm sure there are worse jobs |
| 09:58.40 | Semlar | it's one of the most dangerous jobs you could have and it pays almost nothing and your car gets a ton of extra wear |
| 10:01.41 | Semlar | i'm trying to think of an upside |
| 10:02.03 | karl_w_w | flexible hours |
| 10:02.18 | nevcairiel | you can be a dumbfuck and still get a job |
| 10:03.02 | karl_w_w | most pizza delivery guys I have seem look pretty smart |
| 10:03.06 | Semlar | if you don't get a decent amount of tips it hardly even counts as a job |
| 10:03.11 | karl_w_w | s/seem/seen/ |
| 10:04.05 | Semlar | it probably depends on where you're delivering |
| 10:04.40 | nevcairiel | i always tip the delivery guy |
| 10:04.45 | nevcairiel | usually 10% or so |
| 10:06.54 | karl_w_w | I think it's crazy |
| 10:07.19 | karl_w_w | why don't service staff in your country deserve a steady wage? :P |
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| 10:08.13 | nevcairiel | i have no idea what they get paid from their employer, but should i stop tipping them? :p |
| 10:08.21 | Semlar | no |
| 10:08.26 | Semlar | they aren't making anything |
| 10:08.41 | karl_w_w | tips are their only income, in most cases |
| 10:08.59 | nevcairiel | it was quite a popular job for teens when i was back in school |
| 10:09.07 | nevcairiel | so it couldnt be that horrible |
| 10:09.34 | Semlar | gas prices are up |
| 10:09.36 | karl_w_w | when it's the only job you can get I'm sure relativity applies |
| 10:10.17 | karl_w_w | damn my order is sitting at "ready in store" |
| 10:10.49 | karl_w_w | they should time it so it finishes when a driver is leaving :P |
| 10:11.02 | Semlar | they should put an oven in the car |
| 10:11.13 | Semlar | and just bake it on the way to your housze |
| 10:11.16 | nevcairiel | too high energy requirements |
| 10:11.19 | karl_w_w | they should put the kitchen on wheels! |
| 10:11.34 | Semlar | food truck |
| 10:12.14 | karl_w_w | they should use a cannon to fire it at me |
| 10:12.25 | karl_w_w | and the heat of the cannon blast cooks it en route |
| 10:12.51 | Semlar | i don't think that's how that would work |
| 10:13.17 | karl_w_w | that's because you're a glass half empty kind of guy |
| 10:14.46 | Semlar | i'm just trying to be realistic |
| 10:15.07 | Semlar | maybe if you fired an oven out of a cannon |
| 10:16.11 | karl_w_w | sounds expensive now |
| 10:16.19 | karl_w_w | still ready in store |
| 10:16.24 | karl_w_w | inc cold pizza |
| 10:16.57 | zenzio | you probably forgot to order delivery |
| 10:17.15 | Semlar | it's not delivery |
| 10:17.22 | karl_w_w | haha |
| 10:17.38 | nevcairiel | i bet he double checked now |
| 10:18.01 | karl_w_w | nah didnt need to, there is no minimum price for pickup :P |
| 10:18.11 | karl_w_w | woo leaving store |
| 10:18.23 | Semlar | they were loading it into the cannon |
| 10:31.23 | Arrowmaster | kd3|hate`net, haste: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Pz6NNUDaVw |
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| 11:04.35 | haste | Arrowmaster: what's this? |
| 11:09.08 | airtonix | haste: internet, therefore: porn |
| 11:17.09 | airtonix | i was right too |
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| 12:52.55 | airtonix | defiance would be more awesome with nathan fillion as the sherif |
| 12:54.59 | Kalroth | and more nudes with Jaime Murray |
| 12:55.39 | Kalroth | or Stephanie Leonidas, i'm not picky! |
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| 13:47.20 | pompy1 | Arrowmaster: if you dont have it already http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/06/11/battlefield-3-close-quarters-dlc-free-to-download-during-e3/ |
| 13:51.21 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA rofl |
| 13:52.33 | phelps | yep |
| 13:52.39 | phelps | xbox fucked up pretty hard |
| 13:52.58 | phelps | and their PR to the PS4 has been even worse |
| 13:53.24 | karl_w_w | I hope we're going back to the good old days where playstation dominated |
| 13:53.46 | karl_w_w | i blame xbox's interference for all of the industry's woes |
| 13:57.34 | phelps | i think this will do it |
| 13:57.42 | phelps | unless xbox comes out with the two |
| 13:57.45 | phelps | in the next two months |
| 14:00.31 | Lopeppeppy | Getting a new computer at work next week. Do not want.... |
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| 14:04.49 | TC-work | yes you do Lopeppeppy. |
| 14:06.40 | Lopeppeppy | No, no I don't. 1 hour worth of IT unplugging my old beast and plugging in my new beast. 2 days of recovery and re-installation. |
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| 14:07.21 | TC-work | bad IT then, as it should be delivered to you fully installed. |
| 14:08.51 | Lopeppeppy | They only install windows 8. Anything that I need to do my job that's different from Microsoft Office is my own problem. |
| 14:09.13 | TC-work | I'm still not seeing 2 days worth of software installs. |
| 14:09.28 | Lopeppeppy | Like Adobe CS5 and a few other choice programs that 5 of us in the office have to share disks for. |
| 14:11.01 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy |
| 14:11.03 | Fisker | old pompy1 |
| 14:11.14 | Fisker | I'm sure EA did the stats |
| 14:11.22 | Fisker | amount of people who doesn't have DLC1: 0 |
| 14:11.26 | Fisker | lets release it for free! |
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| 14:29.42 | airtonix | Lopeppeppy: pfff if you primates had migrated to linux two years ago you'd have a devent puppet deployment system where youd have new computers installed and running within 50mins |
| 14:30.01 | airtonix | that's deviant, not a mispelled decent |
| 14:30.22 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, we have a lot of deviants in our IT caves, but none of them are *ix people. |
| 14:31.05 | airtonix | i'm pretty sure puppet has client daemons for windows too now |
| 14:32.38 | airtonix | but you should all repent and convert anyway |
| 14:32.56 | airtonix | stallman demands it |
| 14:33.59 | Lopeppeppy | I'll get right on converting those in the caves, who outnumber me 25 to 1. |
| 14:34.23 | TC-work | airtonix: yes, it's called AD |
| 14:34.24 | airtonix | i knew you weren't a lost cause |
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| 14:42.10 | bluspacecow | man |
| 14:42.12 | bluspacecow | http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?threadid=172385 |
| 14:42.19 | bluspacecow | I used to be all about game books when I was 14 |
| 14:42.29 | bluspacecow | now you can download them to your iPod ? |
| 14:43.07 | Lopeppeppy | Choose your own adventure books on the ipod. |
| 14:43.34 | airtonix | lol ios |
| 14:45.23 | airtonix | bluspacecow: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.GDVGames.LoneWolfBiblio&hl=en |
| 14:45.47 | TC-work | Lopeppeppy: I read somewhere they were going to do that now for comics |
| 14:45.51 | bluspacecow | y u haet airtonix ? |
| 14:46.09 | airtonix | bluspacecow: i don't hate, i love my freedom |
| 14:47.26 | airtonix | bluspacecow: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=au.com.tinmangames.fightingfantasy.houseofhell&hl=en |
| 14:47.30 | airtonix | oh yeah |
| 14:47.38 | TC-work | Lopeppeppy: http://gizmodo.com/dc-just-announced-plans-for-choose-your-own-adventure-s-511313401 |
| 14:49.38 | Lopeppeppy | Oh jeez. |
| 14:50.23 | bluspacecow | I is Hungry Peppy |
| 14:53.00 | Lopeppeppy | Me too, why isn't it lunch time yet? |
| 14:53.05 | airtonix | bluspacecow: perhaps the warden can assist with a food stamp? |
| 14:53.34 | airtonix | ponders if that's how they feed people in gaol |
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| 14:54.07 | bluspacecow | Hmmm |
| 14:58.38 | phelps | did they forget to patch on tuesday or what |
| 14:58.58 | phelps | on tuesday maintenance that is |
| 14:59.00 | Ressy | There wa a patch last night |
| 14:59.16 | phelps | I would have expected them to ship it with the rolling restarts |
| 14:59.24 | phelps | someone didn't make the deadline |
| 14:59.37 | bluspacecow | hot fix patches come at any time |
| 14:59.44 | Ressy | yup |
| 14:59.52 | phelps | that wasn't exactly a hotfix though was it ? |
| 15:00.08 | Unkle | New Hotfix Barbie from Matel. |
| 15:00.26 | TC-work | She however does not come any time. |
| 15:00.49 | bluspacecow | LOL |
| 15:00.53 | phelps | I don't think thats related to barbie though |
| 15:01.14 | airtonix | why not? |
| 15:01.19 | bluspacecow | and now i want one |
| 15:01.33 | airtonix | i thought everyone was related to barbie |
| 15:01.34 | phelps | I hear its a thing in asia |
| 15:01.54 | bluspacecow | whats a thing in asia ? |
| 15:01.54 | Unkle | Don't forget her friends, Hacker Barbie, NSA "White Hat" Barbie, and AnonBarbie |
| 15:02.09 | bluspacecow | AnonBarbie has an anon mask |
| 15:02.10 | bluspacecow | hot |
| 15:02.15 | airtonix | oh you mentioned the nsa... now it's unfunny |
| 15:02.26 | phelps | Hello NSA! |
| 15:02.34 | phelps | I'm doing fine today, if you're wondering. |
| 15:02.43 | Unkle | And the "NSA Wire Tap" Van Play Set. |
| 15:02.49 | TC-work | I think 4chanBarbie would be scary as hell. |
| 15:02.53 | phelps | http://xkcd.com/525/ |
| 15:03.24 | bluspacecow | there was stuff listed on the hot fix patch log that couldn't be done via a server side hotfix alone. hence a small patch to the wow clients. |
| 15:03.39 | airtonix | TC-work: didn't they already do that back in the 80s and make a movie about it? |
| 15:04.25 | TC-work | airtonix: since 4chan started in 2003, I would kinda doubt it. |
| 15:04.41 | airtonix | oh perhaps you've heard of chucky? |
| 15:05.07 | Unkle | Playground Creeper Barbie |
| 15:05.13 | TC-work | Psycho doll != 4chan....oddly enough |
| 15:05.33 | airtonix | perhaps you have a different concept of hell then |
| 15:06.16 | TC-work | Unkle: I bet pedobear Barbie would be rather popular. |
| 15:06.29 | TC-work | airtonix: Probably. |
| 15:06.39 | Unkle | Yeah, kind of horrible there TC-work |
| 15:06.58 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. I found my xkcd. http://xkcd.com/905/ |
| 15:07.30 | Ressy | snorts |
| 15:07.31 | Unkle | Lopeppeppy: lulz |
| 15:11.18 | phelps | my brother took the punch holes in the wall route |
| 15:11.28 | phelps | he has anger issues |
| 15:12.09 | Lopeppeppy | I could patch that. I wield a mean spackle knife, I've been patching small things in my new place for 2 months now. |
| 15:12.27 | Lopeppeppy | Water damage? Rip that right out and patch it back nice. |
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| 15:14.24 | airtonix | so there's more patches than house? |
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| 15:16.47 | Torhal | Lopeppeppy: So your house is like a well-loved pair of bell-bottoms? |
| 15:17.37 | Lopeppeppy | I think it was built before the 60's but sure. :) |
| 15:17.46 | Torhal | Hah |
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| 15:24.27 | Kodiack | torhal told me to come here and ask how to code |
| 15:24.46 | Torhal | kicks Kodiack in the shins. |
| 15:25.37 | TC-work | Well, I can understand why you are not asking Torhal |
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| 15:25.59 | Torhal | flenses TC-work. |
| 15:26.53 | TC-work | suffocates Torhal with it. |
| 15:27.06 | Torhal | Eww. |
| 15:27.24 | TC-work | Right, because what you did was perfectly ok. |
| 15:27.40 | Torhal | ABsolutely. |
| 15:27.46 | Torhal | Ask Lopeppeppy. |
| 15:28.18 | Lopeppeppy | Spackle yer piehole. |
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| 15:28.28 | TC-work | I second the notion. |
| 15:28.32 | Torhal | :/ |
| 15:29.00 | Lopeppeppy | I could make that a collective statement, TC. I've nothing against being inclusive. |
| 15:29.46 | TC-work | That's fine Lopeppeppy, I would be fine with everyone here being piehole spackled. |
| 15:33.34 | bluspacecow | Kodiack's from #wowtech everyone. Tech Support MVP. Specialises in graphics cards and being silly :3 |
| 15:33.48 | bluspacecow | BRB going for a walk |
| 15:36.00 | Kodiack | I also have this place on my auto-join list, but I'm mainly lurking, as is apparent by your commentary... |
| 15:40.17 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 15:40.31 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:41.37 | Lopeppeppy | It is indeed just about llunch time, Fisker, and I'm freakin' starving. |
| 15:41.54 | Fisker | good thing i brought you fish then |
| 15:45.40 | bluspacecow | He also breeds bitcoins |
| 15:46.03 | TC-work | I'd rather breed bears. |
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| 15:59.22 | bluspacecow | (!) |
| 15:59.28 | bluspacecow | I found something to eat in the freezer! |
| 15:59.40 | TC-work | Ice? |
| 15:59.42 | bluspacecow | 'cuse me while I go heat it with my heat vision eyes |
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| 16:02.55 | Shirik|Ghost | http://www.gamezone.com/news/2013/06/12/don-t-always-have-internet-stick-to-the-xbox-360-says-microsoft |
| 16:02.58 | Shirik|Ghost | can't believe they said this |
| 16:03.01 | Shirik|Ghost | who's doing their PR |
| 16:03.06 | Shirik|Ghost | wtf ZNC why you quit |
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| 16:03.19 | Shirik|Ghost | is my server rebooting? |
| 16:03.56 | Lopeppeppy | it misses you when you travel? |
| 16:04.04 | pompy1 | it didnt reconnect |
| 16:04.19 | Shirik|Ghost | anyone else use linode? I'm having trouble getting to them |
| 16:04.31 | TC-work | I do |
| 16:04.53 | TC-work | I wouldn't be in here if my server was down |
| 16:05.05 | Shirik|Ghost | I got kicked off |
| 16:05.28 | TC-work | I do know they have been doing maintenance. |
| 16:06.22 | durcyn | no joy here either |
| 16:06.28 | TC-work | But yea, their web interface is slow for me |
| 16:07.37 | pompy1 | https://twitter.com/StatusLinode/status/344741903503355905 just their latest tweet |
| 16:08.16 | TC-work | Looks like it was fix ~1 hour ago |
| 16:08.23 | Shirik|Ghost | (09:07:26) -› [notice from NickServ]: Shirik!~mpdelbuon@heresiarchguild.com has just authenticated as you (Shirik) |
| 16:08.29 | Shirik|Ghost | >.> |
| 16:08.34 | Shirik|Ghost | my server doing crazy things behind my back |
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| 16:09.44 | pompy1 | interesting, linode HQ is 30 mins from me. |
| 16:11.07 | Shirik | well that was strange |
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| 16:15.19 | Shirik | heh |
| 16:15.28 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 16:15.47 | Fisker | itsa me Shirik |
| 16:15.56 | Shirik | just got an email from my FSO |
| 16:15.58 | Fisker | i just troll the media |
| 16:16.07 | Dagmar | Blokflautijs: Scroll up until you find the item on the page that says "Order another type of router from the internet" |
| 16:16.07 | Shirik | "Please see the enclosed, latest communication from Under Secretary of Defense, regarding Protecting Classified Information and the Integrity of Unclassified Government Information Technology Systems – and Responding Regarding Classified Information in Public Domain" |
| 16:16.12 | Shirik | I wonder what this could be about?! |
| 16:16.13 | Fisker | it's funny though Shirik |
| 16:16.31 | Fisker | they're basically sticking to the same shit the guy said on twitter |
| 16:16.35 | Fisker | except he got fired for it |
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| 16:23.42 | TC-work | "Thanks |
| 16:23.42 | TC-work | Hiring Manager |
| 16:23.42 | TC-work | Inc Copyright (c) 2013" |
| 16:23.46 | TC-work | that's not shady at all |
| 16:27.56 | Shirik | Inc Inc? |
| 16:27.57 | Shirik | or just Inc? |
| 16:31.27 | Fisker | i gotta poop Parnic |
| 16:31.33 | Fisker | Inc LLC Shirik |
| 16:35.11 | TC-work | Shirik: just inc |
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| 16:42.47 | Fisker | are you cramped at your desk Shirik ? |
| 16:42.52 | Shirik | negative |
| 16:43.38 | Fisker | are your fat fingers using the screen while watching a video? |
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| 17:48.34 | VIad | hey :3 |
| 17:50.37 | VIad | there is one audio visualization I think is the best, and it's only bundled with shareaza 2.4 music player, haha :P mike`s simple scopes are awesome |
| 17:51.16 | VIad | anyone else have their favorite? |
| 17:58.48 | VIad | :'< |
| 18:06.44 | Primer | no |
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| 18:18.34 | VIad | Primer: I dislike all visualizations, except that one :p |
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| 18:18.46 | VIad | but I understand if you hate all hehe |
| 18:19.36 | Primer | I presume you mean a music player's visualization? |
| 18:19.43 | Primer | I have no use for them. |
| 18:20.05 | Primer | When I'm listening to music, I'm usually "watching" something else, like code, or a game. |
| 18:20.20 | karl_w_w | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7646864852#2 best stealth nerf ever |
| 18:21.24 | Primer | <-- has never done one pet battle |
| 18:22.54 | VIad | sometimes it's fun to look at the music making soundwaves tough |
| 18:23.00 | VIad | without drugs |
| 18:23.17 | Primer | not really |
| 18:23.47 | TC-work | The only time I like visualizations is with physical light shows. |
| 18:23.58 | TC-work | preferably involving water as well. |
| 18:24.06 | karl_w_w | all light shows are physical |
| 18:24.13 | VIad | it's all physics |
| 18:24.24 | VIad | :P |
| 18:25.54 | Constie | I like looking at spectrograms because they make neat patterns sometimes. |
| 18:26.10 | VIad | but seriously, mike`s simple scopes plugin that does visualization is incredible, it's one of the most accurate visualizations I've seen - it's a simple scope but it updates quickly so you can see the bars rise up or down as the instruments come in or fade out, and you see the beat, I think it's quite cool |
| 18:26.46 | VIad | looks like http://i.imgur.com/JkxKzvE.jpg |
| 18:27.08 | VIad | just more fluent as it runs, runs at 90 fps, sadly my monitor caps at 60 or I'd see the waves even more smoothly :< |
| 18:28.07 | VIad | Constie: what do you use to look at the spectrograms? :p |
| 18:28.28 | Primer | btw, in English, ` is not the correct character |
| 18:28.30 | Primer | ' is |
| 18:28.34 | tharper | Humbedooh |
| 18:28.38 | Primer | For possessives |
| 18:28.40 | VIad | I know Primer but it's the name |
| 18:28.41 | tharper | why do you people write "bli'r" |
| 18:28.47 | VIad | "Mike`s simple scopes" :P |
| 18:28.51 | VIad | of the plugin, hehe |
| 18:28.53 | Primer | Unlikely |
| 18:29.16 | VIad | http://i.imgur.com/PzI2CVD.jpg - as shown |
| 18:29.18 | TC-work | ~lart karl_w_w |
| 18:29.18 | purl | takes a big bite out of karl_w_w's jugular vein |
| 18:29.20 | tharper | HAha so many European types use ` instead |
| 18:29.23 | tharper | it's so maddening |
| 18:29.26 | tharper | Icelanders are notorious for this |
| 18:29.31 | VIad | I always use ' |
| 18:29.34 | tharper | even in rather official documents |
| 18:29.43 | VIad | but if I use ` I make sure it annoys Primer |
| 18:29.53 | tharper | I can get behind that |
| 18:29.57 | Primer | I'm easily annoyed |
| 18:30.05 | tharper | Easy solution: abolish the apostrophe s |
| 18:30.16 | tharper | for the possessive, at least |
| 18:30.22 | tharper | I'm okay with it for contractions |
| 18:30.40 | VIad | why does ` exist? |
| 18:30.46 | tharper | à |
| 18:30.48 | tharper | è |
| 18:30.50 | tharper | ì |
| 18:30.52 | tharper | ò |
| 18:30.53 | tharper | ù |
| 18:30.54 | tharper | =p |
| 18:30.58 | VIad | ` can exist without having to need a keybind tough |
| 18:31.00 | tharper | they're composite characters these days |
| 18:31.09 | tharper | it's usually a dead key that you have to press twice or with space bar to get |
| 18:31.10 | VIad | could just use ' button with combinations to make the ` over chars |
| 18:31.21 | VIad | shift \ then a space adds ` for me |
| 18:31.29 | VIad | or a letter for à |
| 18:31.48 | tharper | I mean, you could say the same for the circumflex, then |
| 18:31.52 | VIad | btw on us the ` is left for 1 but for my norwegian keyboard is left of backspace :( |
| 18:31.53 | tharper | but no one complains about that =p |
| 18:31.55 | TC-work | amusingly on most american keyboards ` gets used more than ~ which is on the same key |
| 18:32.17 | tharper | Vlad, `' is also the correct quote pair |
| 18:32.17 | VIad | ` is the console key but it doesn't work without me having to change locale on windows :P |
| 18:32.22 | tharper | for single quotes |
| 18:32.29 | tharper | it's used in LaTeX for example |
| 18:32.37 | VIad | 'It`s used like this?' |
| 18:32.43 | tharper | `It's used like this?' |
| 18:32.45 | Primer | I wrotE aN XchaT/irssI scripT calleD "AgonizeR". ItS solE purposE iS tO bE annoyinG. |
| 18:32.51 | Primer | ThaT'S whaT iT doeS, btW |
| 18:32.53 | VIad | `It's used like this?` |
| 18:33.01 | tharper | I can't even |
| 18:33.08 | VIad | Primer has primed the primer |
| 18:33.08 | Primer | IT simplY capitalizeD thE lasT letteR oF everY worD iN A sentencE. |
| 18:33.18 | Primer | CapitalizeS, thaT iS |
| 18:33.27 | VIad | haha I can make funny stuff too! |
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| 18:33.37 | VIad | not sure if it shows though :P |
| 18:33.39 | TC-work | I have a python script that converts everything into 'l33t' speak. |
| 18:33.44 | Primer | ExcepT noW I caN'T remembeR hoW tO unloaD thE scripT. |
| 18:33.47 | kd3|hate`net | hm. up to about half of the old list now |
| 18:34.07 | Primer | test |
| 18:34.09 | Primer | there we go |
| 18:34.12 | VIad | hehe |
| 18:34.14 | Primer | http://ceregatti.org/download.old/code/y.pl <-- source |
| 18:34.16 | tharper | TC-work: talk to me when it's in Haskell, kthx |
| 18:34.21 | Primer | It's stupid simple |
| 18:34.49 | VIad | can you access http://www.båt.no ? |
| 18:35.01 | tharper | "Din Ketch er nå klar til bruk." |
| 18:35.02 | VIad | wonder how æøå works for americans :P |
| 18:35.12 | tharper | ? |
| 18:35.17 | Primer | I see it just fine |
| 18:35.21 | kd3 | as long as it's properly in unicode, it works |
| 18:35.24 | kd3 | no mojibake here |
| 18:35.27 | tharper | I forgot, Americans have a special "American browser" |
| 18:35.28 | VIad | kd3: not quite |
| 18:35.37 | tharper | that turned time back to 1985 and only displays ASCII |
| 18:35.51 | Primer | Don't forget M$ ASCII |
| 18:35.53 | VIad | remember that æøå are escaped characters |
| 18:35.56 | VIad | not unicode |
| 18:36.03 | Primer | I wrote an Xchat plugin for that too |
| 18:36.11 | Primer | http://ceregatti.org/download.old/code/x.pl |
| 18:36.39 | tharper | VIad: they are in that case in the markup |
| 18:36.45 | tharper | but they don't have to be if the doc is in utf8 |
| 18:36.56 | tharper | but regardless |
| 18:37.04 | VIad | I mean in your browser if you enter båt.no it doesn't use å |
| 18:37.27 | VIad | æøå.no is actually xn--5cab8c.no |
| 18:37.38 | VIad | http://www.domeneshop.no/faq.cgi?id=8 |
| 18:37.39 | tharper | yes |
| 18:37.44 | tharper | ? |
| 18:37.47 | VIad | IDN standard thingy |
| 18:37.57 | tharper | which is actually an ASCII canonicalisation of utf8 |
| 18:38.04 | tharper | #justsaying |
| 18:38.15 | VIad | but it still doesn't really use æøå #justsaying |
| 18:38.26 | VIad | it's not like they changed the server software to work with unicode :P |
| 18:38.36 | tharper | http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punycode |
| 18:38.47 | tharper | …yes they did |
| 18:38.48 | VIad | they worked around the issue by encoding these characters instead of changing software, they only had to slightly modify |
| 18:39.02 | tharper | you have to support punycode in IDN |
| 18:39.37 | VIad | so far it's all ASCII with some layers on top to simulate unicode |
| 18:39.40 | tharper | and it does require some DNS support |
| 18:39.45 | VIad | or at least to allow these accent characters and æøå |
| 18:40.00 | Gnarfoz | what dns support does it require? |
| 18:40.30 | tharper | Gnarfoz: TLD support for IDN |
| 18:40.40 | Gnarfoz | that's not a technical change, though? |
| 18:40.51 | tharper | I guess not |
| 18:40.53 | kd3 | Arrowmaster: lmao at that vid |
| 18:40.54 | Gnarfoz | I've had IDN domains before, they are just "xn--somethingsomething-21x0.net" |
| 18:41.20 | VIad | I can't call that unicode :P |
| 18:41.23 | Gnarfoz | the appropriate NIC has to allow that, that's basically all |
| 18:41.30 | tharper | Vlad: yes you can |
| 18:41.40 | tharper | Unicode is a code point assignment |
| 18:41.54 | tharper | encoded in multiple ways |
| 18:41.54 | Gnarfoz | VIad: it's not, and I think kd3 meant that the URL you linked here in IRC has to be utf8 so it doesn't end up garbled in his IRC client |
| 18:42.03 | VIad | that's true Gnarfoz |
| 18:42.03 | tharper | how is that not unicode? |
| 18:42.14 | tharper | punycode encode any unicode codepoint |
| 18:42.17 | VIad | but the browser translates the read "å" into IDN then looks for the host |
| 18:42.25 | VIad | instead of querying directly using the " |
| 18:42.25 | VIad | å |
| 18:42.36 | Gnarfoz | VIad: it's still "just another" unicode encoding, like utf-8/16/whatever |
| 18:42.43 | tharper | exactly |
| 18:42.50 | Gnarfoz | (used for a rather specific purpose) |
| 18:43.20 | tharper | it just has a canonical ASCII rendering |
| 18:43.25 | VIad | I awaid the day they just use the unicode table instead of ascii, it will be when IDN will be obscolete in domain names |
| 18:43.28 | tharper | whereas utf8 is just a sequence of bytes |
| 18:43.41 | Gnarfoz | VIad: punycode will be obsolete, not IDN |
| 18:43.42 | VIad | not that it matters |
| 18:43.47 | VIad | punycode right |
| 18:44.07 | Gnarfoz | and they'll still have to use /some/ encoding ^^ probably utf-8 since that's the most widespread |
| 18:44.08 | tharper | actually, you need some form of canonicalisation for security purposes, really |
| 18:44.20 | tharper | lots of codepoints map to essentially the same glyph |
| 18:44.36 | nevcairiel | that's why browsers do it today really |
| 18:44.36 | tharper | which creates potential security issues |
| 18:44.44 | tharper | if you just naively support unicode |
| 18:44.45 | VIad | won't the servers get confused if båt.no is bxn--aoep.no but then someone registers bxn--aoep.no instead of båt.no :P |
| 18:44.45 | Gnarfoz | tharper: yeah, the NIC has to take care of that right now |
| 18:45.06 | Gnarfoz | tharper: unless they do, most browsers don't display the actual IDN in the URL bar but show the punycode |
| 18:45.10 | VIad | it wouldn't be sure if you really mean the xn-- part or if it's punycode (because it would be valid punycode)= |
| 18:45.14 | Gnarfoz | (I think firefox still does it for .net) |
| 18:45.41 | tharper | Gnarfoz, but punycode doesn't let you have different URLs for certain strings even if they contain different code points |
| 18:45.43 | tharper | for that very reason |
| 18:45.54 | Gnarfoz | tharper: huh? |
| 18:46.20 | tharper | punycode only allows you to encode a restricted set of unicode |
| 18:46.25 | Gnarfoz | if punycode has built-in protection against identical glyphs from different alphabets, why would browsers do that thing I just described? |
| 18:46.27 | VIad | http://xn--5cab8c.com is http://æøå.com but if I really mean "xn--5cab8c.com" how does the browser know that? |
| 18:46.31 | VIad | or the servers |
| 18:46.46 | VIad | can you escape punycode? |
| 18:46.50 | Gnarfoz | VIad: no |
| 18:46.50 | nevcairiel | there are probably rules against registering that |
| 18:46.54 | tharper | Gnarfoz, transparency? poor support? =p |
| 18:46.57 | Gnarfoz | and no there aren't rules against that nevcairiel |
| 18:47.05 | durcyn | it's a valid IDN |
| 18:47.09 | Gnarfoz | if he registers that, he has registered a regular IDN domain |
| 18:47.15 | Gnarfoz | and his user agent will display *something* |
| 18:47.29 | Gnarfoz | it's not a DNS registry issue, rather a display issue |
| 18:47.35 | tharper | chrome displays the decoded url, not the raw punycode |
| 18:47.38 | durcyn | the web server just has to not choke on the Host header |
| 18:47.42 | Gnarfoz | tharper: that depends on the TLD |
| 18:47.45 | tharper | no |
| 18:47.47 | tharper | ? |
| 18:47.48 | Gnarfoz | it does |
| 18:47.50 | Gnarfoz | I just described it |
| 18:48.05 | tharper | I think we're talking about different things, then |
| 18:48.26 | Gnarfoz | for "trustworthy" TLDs where they "made sure" that the NIC takes appropriate precautios to not allow registrations of identical glyphs from different alphabets, they display the proper IDN, for others, punycode |
| 18:48.32 | VIad | I want to buy †.com so the christians can't have it |
| 18:48.43 | VIad | damn it |
| 18:48.46 | VIad | http://†.com |
| 18:48.49 | nevcairiel | its taken :P |
| 18:49.05 | VIad | http://xn--lvg.com :P |
| 18:49.24 | Gnarfoz | (and browser behaviour differs... Firefox/IE/Chrome have different lists for which TLD they display the IDN) |
| 18:49.31 | VIad | http://۞.com |
| 18:49.59 | VIad | lol domainshop.com says that the domain is invalid, but it's registered... |
| 18:50.07 | VIad | I guess what is a valid IDN domain varies from registrar to registrar :P |
| 18:50.21 | nevcairiel | there are companies that just register all sorts of single-letter and two letter things, first day these were free for registry the registrars got swamped with such requests that just sit on parking domains now |
| 18:50.45 | nevcairiel | in the hope of selling them for big money |
| 18:51.11 | VIad | but if http://†.com by domain rules isn't valid, how can they allow it to exist? |
| 18:51.14 | Gnarfoz | VIad: different regexes, different definitions of "valid" ^^ |
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| 18:51.38 | Gnarfoz | same as for what's a valid email address (I'm looking at you people who think + in an email address is invalid) |
| 18:51.39 | nevcairiel | just because your domainshop doesnt think its valid doesnt mean it actually is invalid |
| 18:51.46 | Gnarfoz | obviously |
| 18:51.46 | VIad | + is valid |
| 18:52.06 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: the problem with email is that the full ruleset in regex is like a full A4 page full :P |
| 18:52.08 | VIad | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_address#Local_part |
| 18:52.12 | Gnarfoz | VIad: you don't say? |
| 18:52.23 | VIad | vlad&son@domain.com |
| 18:52.28 | VIad | should also be valid :P |
| 18:52.29 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I know, it's in the back of the the o'reilly regex book |
| 18:52.31 | nevcairiel | so instead of using something at least half-clever, most devs just use a dumb check |
| 18:52.33 | Gnarfoz | VIad: you're a master of missing the point :D |
| 18:52.37 | VIad | I am Gnarfoz |
| 18:53.10 | VIad | apparently <space>@domain.com is valid, lol |
| 18:53.16 | VIad | according to the definition on the wiki |
| 18:53.23 | VIad | mailto:%20@domain.com |
| 18:53.28 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: if only there were a bit dumber :D doing [A-Za-z0-9,._-] is horrible |
| 18:53.42 | Gnarfoz | VIad: if you put the local-part in quotes, almost everything goes |
| 18:53.42 | VIad | should use built in validation functions rather than making own regex |
| 18:53.57 | VIad | Gnarfoz: nice |
| 18:54.13 | Gnarfoz | VIad: there's no "built-in" email validation function (built into what, even?) |
| 18:54.22 | VIad | there is in some languages, like libraries |
| 18:54.22 | nevcairiel | you cant have unicode, but other then that, you can do pretty much anything |
| 18:54.43 | nevcairiel | actually, apparently unicode is also allowed now |
| 18:54.47 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: can't have unicode in the local-part? I'm not sure |
| 18:54.52 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 18:55.05 | nevcairiel | there is a new RFC from 2012 that clarifies unicode usage |
| 18:55.19 | VIad | those that own heaven.com should make †@heaven.com :P |
| 18:55.26 | nevcairiel | RFC6531: SMTP Extension for Internationalized Email |
| 18:55.27 | VIad | just saying |
| 18:56.08 | Gnarfoz | all in all, even in 2013, unicode on the internet is still a pain in the ass |
| 18:56.46 | VIad | some IT master students used weird nordic charmap without defining it in the html source or headers, making it show weird when using unicode :P |
| 18:56.54 | VIad | just saying, the encoding is important |
| 18:56.59 | Humbedooh | tharper: you just jealous or somethin'! |
| 18:57.02 | VIad | and telling the browser is too |
| 18:57.22 | nevcairiel | anyone using ANSI encoding needs to be shot |
| 18:57.24 | tharper | Humbedooh: I just don't understand the apostrophe |
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| 18:57.43 | Humbedooh | it's just a contraction :C |
| 18:57.51 | Humbedooh | bli'r = bliver |
| 18:58.25 | tharper | ahh |
| 18:58.33 | tharper | the whole verb in Sweidhs is bli/blir |
| 18:58.50 | Humbedooh | blive/bliver in dkdkdk |
| 18:58.51 | VIad | sweidhs is retarded, I prefer swedish |
| 18:59.07 | Humbedooh | VIad: don't mock the dyslexics! |
| 18:59.21 | VIad | Humbedooh isn't! :P |
| 18:59.24 | Humbedooh | oh, he left - go ahead, mock him |
| 18:59.39 | VIad | tharper isn't! |
| 18:59.56 | VIad | tharper is awesome - I hope he didn't quit crying... |
| 19:00.03 | VIad | probably just batteries |
| 19:00.13 | Humbedooh | no, I'm sure he ran away crying |
| 19:00.19 | Humbedooh | he's gay after all </stereotype> |
| 19:00.23 | VIad | damn it |
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| 19:06.21 | VIad | let's talk philosophy: minority report "precrime"; what are your thoughs, a valid way to put people in jail (in that setting) or not? |
| 19:06.43 | VIad | personally I am not quite agreeing with the logic the movie uses |
| 19:08.13 | VIad | I just try to relax by starting conversations, please do start something else, I'll join the conversation :P |
| 19:09.06 | VIad | Humbedooh: what are you doing? |
| 19:09.26 | Humbedooh | I'm watching television in the other room, so I'm not here really :) |
| 19:09.32 | VIad | what are you watching? |
| 19:09.51 | Arrowmaster | kd3: i only got 20 minutes into it before i had to leave this morning but it was still great upto that point |
| 19:10.03 | Humbedooh | I dunno, whatever is on :p some reality show thingy, never seen it before |
| 19:10.16 | VIad | sigh, reality shows are a tumor of society :( |
| 19:10.20 | TC-work | Ok, Humbedooh is dead to me. |
| 19:12.14 | Humbedooh | TC-work: I thought you loved me :'C |
| 19:12.44 | TC-work | Humbedooh: You watch 'reality tv'. besides, I can love dead people. |
| 19:13.12 | Humbedooh | well I'm not watching it right now! there's commercials on and such |
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| 19:43.42 | Shirik | one of the first times C&H has actually made me laugh: http://www.explosm.net/comics/3201/ |
| 19:50.27 | jnwhiteh | zomgwtf |
| 19:50.34 | jnwhiteh | plants vs zombies adventures |
| 19:50.53 | jnwhiteh | can't get to park-n-perish without sending app requests |
| 19:50.58 | jnwhiteh | fuck that noise |
| 19:51.28 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... If I didn't already know 2 people who got ME hooked, I'd have quit. :) |
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| 19:51.48 | jnwhiteh | who, danielle and sam? |
| 19:51.58 | Lopeppeppy | Sam and alestane. Bastiches. |
| 19:51.59 | jnwhiteh | do I keep going |
| 19:52.05 | jnwhiteh | or is the next level even MORE stupid invites? |
| 19:52.26 | jnwhiteh | i.e. how far do i let this stupid game go |
| 19:52.46 | Lopeppeppy | I've gotten through another 10-12 without any more stupid invites, and I don't see another roadblock ahead. But if there is one, I'd quit there. |
| 19:53.24 | jnwhiteh | alright, requests sent |
| 19:53.24 | jnwhiteh | >< |
| 19:53.38 | jnwhiteh | yep |
| 19:53.41 | jnwhiteh | one more roadblock |
| 19:53.45 | jnwhiteh | at the end of park-n-perish |
| 19:54.01 | jnwhiteh | then again at killjoy park |
| 19:54.02 | jnwhiteh | >< |
| 19:54.21 | jnwhiteh | that might be enough to make me quit now |
| 19:54.24 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 19:54.26 | Fisker | i don't hate you |
| 19:54.29 | jnwhiteh | but sim city doesn't come out until august =( |
| 19:54.36 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: huzzah! |
| 19:54.56 | Lopeppeppy | It's a few more levels for you, a few more lunch breaks. And then give them awesome negative feedback! |
| 19:55.15 | jnwhiteh | =) |
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| 20:02.29 | wazer | Hi fellas have anybody found a way how to detect latest version thats live on the net? |
| 20:02.52 | wazer | wow version, engb,us whatever |
| 20:06.37 | Torhal | http://thegeekzodiac.com/ |
| 20:10.38 | Gnarfoz | wazer: http://www.wowpedia.org/Public_client_builds |
| 20:11.01 | wazer | gnarfoz yeah thats thirdpart |
| 20:11.14 | wazer | i would like to get it direct from blizz/activition |
| 20:11.27 | Stanzilla | http://dist.blizzard.com.edgesuite.net/wow-pod-retail/EU/config_retail_4E1E396EB1D2659C1F5661BC64F69FFF.xml |
| 20:12.00 | wazer | no version number in that already checked |
| 20:12.30 | Stanzilla | check the folder for the other files then |
| 20:12.36 | Stanzilla | the torrent always has the version number |
| 20:13.07 | wazer | Yeah where do i get the latest official torrent then? |
| 20:13.15 | wazer | again not from third party |
| 20:13.33 | Stanzilla | scrape that folder |
| 20:14.01 | wazer | not really anything in there? |
| 20:14.02 | wazer | http://dist.blizzard.com.edgesuite.net/wow-pod-retail/EU/15890.direct/priorities/wow-16309-C7102312F480D5A07BD04F5DC0C9C4D6.pfil |
| 20:15.59 | Lopeppeppy | If I wanted an official bliz torrent download I'd get it when I log into my account on their site - if that's what you're looking for, https://us.battle.net/, log yourself in and have fun. |
| 20:16.11 | Gnarfoz | I doubt he wants something hard to automate. |
| 20:16.16 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
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| 20:16.54 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, I can't think of an "official blizz torrent" that's not there though, Gnarfoz. Maybe I just don't download the game often enough. |
| 20:17.04 | Gnarfoz | hm? hm. |
| 20:17.09 | wazer | No because i wont want it to rely on any files |
| 20:17.11 | Gnarfoz | why is the torrent not there? |
| 20:17.20 | wazer | just strings/links whatever from their sites |
| 20:17.22 | Gnarfoz | I doubt you'll get a webservice that tells you |
| 20:17.23 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 20:17.48 | Stanzilla | http://dist.blizzard.com.edgesuite.net/wow-pod-retail/EU/15890.direct/wow-17055-440E4CCC3668374C4B2DB449B5A093C3.torrent |
| 20:18.33 | wazer | Stanzilla and how would you find that last link without knowing it first? |
| 20:19.23 | wazer | without the need to use local files on your machine |
| 20:19.49 | Stanzilla | Maldivia knows that |
| 20:22.00 | wazer | Okay sure about that? |
| 20:22.14 | Guest21608 | asd |
| 20:23.11 | Stanzilla | wazer: yes he provides a few of us with automated emails that tell us when a new patch is live |
| 20:23.25 | wazer | wot |
| 20:23.27 | wazer | nice |
| 20:25.40 | wazer | He's from my country cool |
| 20:33.33 | karl_w_w | is there any part of the body left that we used to just cut off when it became troublesome, which we haven't since realised is actually useful? |
| 20:35.05 | karl_w_w | i guess wisdom teeth would count |
| 20:40.19 | Ressy | wisdom teeth aren't useful. |
| 20:40.56 | Stanzilla | karl_w_w: balls |
| 20:42.49 | kd3 | whee, half the list has responded |
| 20:43.01 | kd3 | so hopefully that'll help cut down on the spam reports |
| 20:43.14 | Stanzilla | oh did you get mine? my client errored out later? |
| 20:44.43 | kd3 | maybe? message me your address and I'll bump you to the new list if you're not already on it |
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| 21:35.08 | Semlar | wisdom teeth do serve a purpose, modern dentistry has just made that obsolete |
| 21:36.14 | Mr_Rabies | our jaws have grown to be smaller on average now than in our evolutionary pasts, and our teeth haven't quite caught up |
| 21:36.24 | Semlar | that's actually not true |
| 21:36.33 | Mr_Rabies | so many people have to have theirs removed since they won't fit in the jaw |
| 21:37.07 | bleeter | Semlar: it's certainly true that Fisker has a small head |
| 21:38.00 | Semlar | they're meant to replace teeth that would have naturally become weaker or fallen out already and they come in sideways to break the rotting teeth |
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| 21:38.23 | Mr_Rabies | well they certainly messed up my entire lower jaw |
| 21:38.47 | Semlar | yes, they're now a liability because modern dentistry has made all of our teeth permanent |
| 21:39.01 | bleeter | not just modern dentistry |
| 21:39.14 | Mr_Rabies | fluoridated tap water, etc as well, i guess |
| 21:39.15 | bleeter | we live many years more these days than even 500 years ago |
| 21:39.42 | Semlar | well wisdom teeth come in during your teens |
| 21:40.21 | bleeter | they don't neccesarily break through in the teens, though |
| 21:41.03 | bleeter | at least, that's what my dentist has been telling me about mine for the past 20+ years. |
| 21:41.46 | bleeter | quite a few different reasons why they may erupt |
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| 21:50.49 | Dagmar | Easy solution: Drink 6L of Coca-cola a day |
| 21:50.55 | Dagmar | They'll be gone in three months. |
| 21:51.08 | Dagmar | ...and you'll get a lot of stuff done. |
| 22:00.44 | bleeter | http://vimeo.com/62092214 (NPSFW) |
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| 22:03.30 | Ackis | Cairenn: http://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/1g85ep/my_niece_and_puppy_apparently_get_along_well/ |
| 22:12.34 | Arrowmaster | downvotes |
| 22:12.51 | Ackis | :( |
| 22:13.00 | Ackis | I meant to link the image, but I had that in my C&P buffer |
| 22:14.20 | Ackis | hey Arrowmaster/Fisker there's a new rpg type f2p game coming out from ubisoft that's still in alpha/beta testing... I can't remember it's name, anything that you can think of? |
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| 22:16.51 | Arrowmaster | never heard of it |
| 22:17.13 | TC-work | only rpg that's not out yet for them is Might & Magic X |
| 22:17.44 | Ackis | this looked like a web base f2p, I rmeember having to sign up for the beta with my uplay account |
| 22:19.06 | TC-work | Ackis: http://mightandmagicheroeskingdoms.ubi.com/us/ ? |
| 22:19.32 | TC-work | not sure that is rpg though. |
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| 22:19.56 | Ackis | no that's not it... this id going to drive me nuts now |
| 22:20.22 | Arrowmaster | type it in google |
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| 22:20.47 | TC-work | There is also http://www.thesettlersonline.net/en |
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| 22:20.59 | TC-work | again, not rpg |
| 22:23.24 | Arrowmaster | raiders |
| 22:25.11 | Arrowmaster | "Multiple flavors of Might and Magic, as a card game (Might and Magic: Duel of the Champions), as strategy RPG play in your browser (Might and Magic Heroes Online), and as an action-RPG (Might and Magic: Raiders). Every single one of these titles is free-to-play, either right now or in the near future." |
| 22:25.45 | Arrowmaster | http://www.mightandmagicraiders.com/ |
| 22:26.34 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: is that it |
| 22:27.24 | Ackis | no =/ |
| 22:27.36 | Torhal | stabs Ackis with all the games. |
| 22:27.36 | bleeter | https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/970340_515666155155062_462645956_n.jpg |
| 22:28.13 | Arrowmaster | http://www.ghostrecononline.com/ http://www.mm-heroesonline.com/ http://www.mightandmagicraiders.com/ http://www.annoonline.com/ http://www.silenthunteronline.com/ |
| 22:28.19 | Arrowmaster | theres all the ubisoft f2p games |
| 22:30.31 | Ackis | had to did through my browser history: https://www.themightyquest.com/en |
| 22:30.53 | Torhal | Less bullshit games, more coding. |
| 22:32.17 | TC-work | Calm down overlord Torhal |
| 22:32.42 | Torhal | TC-work: Can't do it. I've been enabling him for far too long! |
| 22:34.20 | TC-work | Torhal: That is no fault but your own. |
| 22:34.53 | Torhal | I think you should be the new enabler, TC-work. |
| 22:34.58 | Arrowmaster | https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/6jzWcRR6hyu |
| 22:35.01 | Torhal | I wanna play all these silly games like Ackis. |
| 22:35.55 | TC-work | Then play them> |
| 22:35.56 | TC-work | ?* |
| 22:36.09 | Ackis | hey Torhal fuck off and die |
| 22:36.16 | Torhal | Ackis: NO U |
| 22:36.23 | TC-work | Or that, but I think my way is better. |
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| 22:41.06 | bleeter | this guy! https://github.com/seishun/SteamPP/issues/2#issuecomment-19319167 |
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| 22:45.47 | zenzelezz | what about him? |
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| 22:49.59 | Kraps | oh cool http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/109175-divine-insight |
| 22:50.48 | Unkle | Interesting - I have a "nickname credit" at curse... |
| 22:51.18 | Torhal | At Curse or on WoWDB? |
| 22:51.27 | Unkle | WoWDB apparently. |
| 22:51.44 | Torhal | Allows you to have the same network-wide login but different names per site. |
| 22:51.50 | Unkle | It's reading the cookie set by my use of my wowstead page. |
| 22:52.03 | Torhal | Yar. Auth cookie, likely. |
| 22:52.25 | Unkle | Yeah. I just haven't used WoWDB in like... forever. |
| 22:56.20 | bleeter | zenzelezz: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#LinkingWithGPL |
| 23:11.23 | Arrowmaster | had to pull up my n7 serial number while im on the phone with google, noticed my uptime is at 652 hours |
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| 23:34.58 | TC-work | No no please, ssd product description, do not post your read/write speeds in any area that my eyes may come into contact with..... |
| 23:35.24 | Jamash | you can link GPL code with anything BUT you can't redistribute binaries unless you follow the license |
| 23:39.00 | bleeter | Jamash: not so. https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLAndPlugins |
| 23:42.11 | Jamash | "the terms of the GPL must be followed when those plug-ins are distributed." |
| 23:43.54 | Jamash | You can't claim someone else's source code as a derivative work just because it refers to your constants, function names and parameters |
| 23:44.18 | Jamash | So that only applies to binary distribution |
| 23:45.05 | bleeter | "we believe they form a single program, which must be treated as an extension of both the main program and the plug-ins" |
| 23:45.08 | Jamash | Actually, you can claim that, and RMS does, but he's wrong. |
| 23:47.07 | Jamash | his definition of "derivative work" is inconsistent with copyright law |
| 23:47.47 | phelps | I was kinda bummed they limit the in game browser to the battle.net site |
| 23:48.07 | phelps | I fired up gdb and changed the memory for the home page button |
| 23:48.13 | phelps | just gives me a redirect window |
| 23:48.15 | phelps | :( |
| 23:49.35 | Jamash | there's an in game browser??? |
| 23:49.38 | phelps | yeah |
| 23:49.43 | Jamash | man I need to fix my computer |
| 23:49.51 | Jamash | awaaaaay |
| 23:50.04 | phelps | uses chromium |
| 23:50.09 | phelps | google chrome engine |
| 23:50.21 | phelps | I could fire up IDA and find where they limit the browser |
| 23:50.29 | phelps | but that would be an even more grey area |
| 23:50.30 | phelps | haha |
| 23:50.44 | phelps | I wanted reddit in my wow damnit |
| 23:51.11 | phelps | http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19145606/Screenshots/k3yo.png |
| 23:51.22 | phelps | thats what you get when you try to visit a site that isn't battle.net |
| 23:52.02 | Jamash | If you could visit anything else it would horribly compromise the sandbox |
| 23:52.24 | phelps | why do you think that |
| 23:52.58 | phelps | I mean, I would assume it just creates the auth cookie when you login |
| 23:53.00 | Jamash | do lua scripts have access to web data? |
| 23:53.04 | phelps | nah |
| 23:53.06 | Jamash | oh |
| 23:53.06 | phelps | its not Lua |
| 23:53.15 | phelps | its straight C |
| 23:53.24 | phelps | framestack doesn't give much info on it |
| 23:53.26 | Jamash | well in that case they just don't want phishing sites |
| 23:53.41 | phelps | yeah, I understand why they wouldn't want you to visit other sites |
| 23:53.45 | phelps | but I still WANT to |
| 23:53.55 | Jamash | try setting up an http proxy |
| 23:53.59 | phelps | ! |
| 23:54.15 | phelps | you're a fuckin genius |
| 23:54.19 | Unkle | mmm.... a squid |
| 23:54.23 | Jamash | I use Squid |
| 23:54.57 | phelps | I'll just use iptables |
| 23:54.57 | phelps | haha |
| 23:55.02 | Jamash | it's real handy for blocking content for mobile devices at home |
| 23:55.42 | Jamash | the 3DS browser chokes on complex pages so I filter a lot of ads and "recommended content" |
| 23:56.01 | Jamash | same for the ipad |
| 23:56.29 | Stanzilla | the browser only works for hardcoded sites phelps |
| 23:56.51 | Jamash | he's hacking the gibson |
| 23:57.07 | phelps | Stanzilla: think I would be better off decompiling it in IDA |
| 23:57.11 | phelps | and changing that ? |
| 23:57.20 | phelps | not to break channel rules |
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| 23:57.26 | phelps | shouldn't talk like that |
| 23:57.40 | Jamash | I doubt iptables would work, the browser would still be submitting battle.net urls |
| 23:57.46 | phelps | well |
| 23:57.51 | Jamash | squid seems more likely |
| 23:57.56 | phelps | if I can get it to load the reddit homepage |
| 23:58.02 | phelps | thats progress enough |
| 23:58.13 | phelps | at least I'll have an idea on how it will render stuff |
| 23:58.21 | Jamash | http 1.1 includes the domain names in requests to handle vhosts |
| 23:58.59 | Stanzilla | you'd have to change the games files to make it work |
| 23:58.59 | Jamash | I have no idea how reddit.com would react to a request claiming to be for battle.net |
| 23:59.04 | phelps | I know the http standard |
| 23:59.37 | Stanzilla | and overwrite the list there |
| 23:59.55 | Jamash | also the html file would refer to reddit.com resources, so... |
