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| 00:54.47 | Ackis | I have too much monitor, I don't know where to looooook!!!!! |
| 00:58.15 | whyzerman | <-- that way |
| 00:59.20 | TC-work | You can't have too much monitor |
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| 01:14.03 | Ackis | TC-work: I just got a new 27" and I'm running dual monitors for the first time ever... 24" and 27" |
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| 01:14.32 | TC-work | Ackis: Nice. Still have a bit of work ahead of you, but nice. |
| 01:14.47 | Ackis | what do you mean a bit of work? |
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| 01:16.43 | TC-work | More monitords |
| 01:16.47 | TC-work | monitors* |
| 01:17.22 | Ackis | lol |
| 01:17.31 | Ackis | if I got another monitor my wife would kill me |
| 01:17.51 | TC-work | I have 2 24's and a 27, and I would happily have triple 30's with 2K res. |
| 01:19.01 | tzarc | got 3x27 and 2x24 here... >_> <_< |
| 01:19.14 | TC-work | For one computer? |
| 01:19.17 | tzarc | yep |
| 01:19.20 | TC-work | Nice |
| 01:19.34 | tzarc | don't need the 24's any more, they were useful when I was doing design work |
| 01:19.50 | tzarc | real estate is king |
| 01:20.17 | tzarc | been contemplating pushing my 27's into portrait and making them one monitor |
| 01:20.32 | tzarc | too lazy |
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| 01:22.37 | tzarc | convinced my boss to give me the same monitor setup at work too :D |
| 01:22.37 | tzarc | well |
| 01:22.37 | tzarc | without the 24's |
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| 01:23.26 | Ackis | how the hell do you deal with all that space? |
| 01:23.39 | Ackis | I odn't know where to look on the two monitors I have right now |
| 01:24.28 | TC-work | You will get used to it...then yearn for more space. |
| 01:24.30 | tzarc | code on left, docs on right, runtime in centre, generally |
| 01:24.56 | Ackis | I wonder how much a different the dvi/hdmi connections will make |
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| 01:28.01 | tzarc | that said, if you keep apps in specific positions instead of moving them around constantly, it's a lot easier |
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| 03:17.48 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: You owe me a game of Leage at some point! |
| 03:45.43 | Ackis | anyway in windows to automagically shift focus to the window your mouse cursor is on? |
| 04:02.18 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Ease of Access Center\Make the mouse easier to use |
| 04:02.39 | Ackis | cty |
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| 05:15.59 | karl_w_w | that changes the active window |
| 05:32.06 | karl_w_w | wow no wonder i lag when my pet battle queue pops |
| 05:32.56 | karl_w_w | it spams the fuck out of PET_JOURNAL_LIST_UPDATE |
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| 05:58.42 | Grivvel | karl_w_w: Do you have some AddOn that might be modifying your pets in some way when the pet battle queue pops? |
| 06:03.54 | Mr_Rabies | urgh all this group content is frustrating on a dying realm |
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| 06:28.39 | karl_w_w | don't think so Grivvel |
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| 06:42.44 | karl_w_w | what is an actual real word that would mean longevity-ous? :P |
| 06:43.24 | karl_w_w | longevous is apparently a word, but archaic |
| 06:44.48 | Mr_Rabies | lengthy? |
| 06:45.56 | Mr_Rabies | i dunno, need sentence context :p |
| 06:46.06 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 06:46.19 | karl_w_w | lasting I guess |
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| 06:53.15 | karl_w_w | What's the difference between death knight and a hooker? One's cheap, easy and spreads diseases, the other gets paid for it |
| 06:54.43 | zenzelezz | that one puzzles me karl_w_w |
| 06:54.53 | zenzelezz | if the first one is "cheap", doesn't that mean he's still being paid? |
| 06:58.12 | Mr_Rabies | different definition |
| 06:58.30 | Mr_Rabies | cheap as in "a cheap shot" |
| 06:59.02 | Mr_Rabies | now i've explained a linguistic joke and killed all of the funny it contained |
| 07:01.22 | karl_w_w | lol |
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| 07:38.23 | Ackis | what does function arguments expected near "local" mean? |
| 07:38.44 | nevcairiel | that you made a syntax error |
| 07:41.00 | Ackis | so I need to do local IsBuffPresent = LibSkeenCore:IsBuffPresent() instead of local IsBuffPresent = LibSkeenCore:IsBuffPresent ? |
| 07:41.24 | nevcairiel | the second is invalid |
| 07:41.29 | nevcairiel | but its unclear what you want to do |
| 07:41.35 | nevcairiel | call the function or get a reference to it? |
| 07:42.13 | Ackis | get a reference to it because they're being called quite often |
| 07:42.30 | Ackis | just like local foo = _G.foo |
| 07:42.43 | Ackis | I've never done that with a library before |
| 07:43.09 | nevcairiel | its not guaranteed that it will actually work, but in any case you need to use the . and not : |
| 07:44.17 | Ackis | ah okay I see what I was doing wrong... basically trying to call the function with no values |
| 08:13.38 | Fisker | this is the best obfuscation of all time |
| 08:13.43 | Fisker | *Looks at a string* |
| 08:13.46 | Fisker | "This is base64" |
| 08:13.53 | Fisker | "But it has underscores?" |
| 08:14.02 | Fisker | *replaces underscores with equal to signs* |
| 08:14.08 | Fisker | It was base 64! |
| 08:14.15 | Fisker | dumb fucks :( |
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| 08:53.37 | Fisker | hey bluipodcow |
| 08:54.59 | Mr_Rabies | hey fisker |
| 08:55.09 | Mr_Rabies | have you considered that inside of all of us lurks a skeleton |
| 08:56.03 | Fisker | yes Mr_Rabies |
| 08:56.33 | Mr_Rabies | good |
| 08:56.38 | Mr_Rabies | stay vigilant |
| 09:15.57 | Ackis | okay... I have a case where it's possible to have two buffs on at the same time but they do different things: http://www.wowhead.com/spell=108382 and http://www.wowhead.com/spell=108381 is the only way to detect one of them to parse all the buffs on a person and stop when the spell ID matches from UnitBuff? |
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| 09:22.47 | whyzerman | UnitBuff("unit", index or ["name", "rank"][, "filter"]) -- index or name = Number or string - The index or name of the buff to retrieve information for. Indices start at 1 and go up indefinitely until there are no more buffs on target. |
| 09:24.04 | whyzerman | you shouldnt need to differentiate between the buffs unless you want to do something specific with one or the other |
| 09:24.05 | Ackis | that's what I meant.... parse all the buffs with UnitBuff("player",1) -> n |
| 09:27.20 | whyzerman | in that case, get the spell id of the buff you want, then compare it to the spell id of the buff on the player |
| 09:28.06 | whyzerman | i.e. if buffid == 108382 then <do something> |
| 09:30.06 | whyzerman | spellID = select(11, UnitBuff("Ackis", "Dreams of Cenarious")); <-- if you were wondering how to just get 1 part of what UnitBuff returns |
| 09:30.45 | Ackis | the problem with that is that there are two buffs called Dreams of Cenarious which can both be present at the same time |
| 09:31.07 | Ackis | and I'm trying to check for one of them... so it looks like I'll just need to loop through the buffs until I find it or run out of buffs |
| 09:32.19 | whyzerman | lemme look |
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| 09:36.21 | whyzerman | is this a passive boomkin spell or a talent? my druids resto/guardian |
| 09:37.01 | Ackis | it's Dream of Cenarious *T6 talent) |
| 09:38.02 | whyzerman | oh its that shit talent noone takes ever :P |
| 09:38.52 | Ackis | it along with nature'sswiftness are apparently the best feral dps |
| 09:39.33 | Ackis | "Currently, Dream of Cenarius is the best talent in terms of improving your DPS. For now, this is the optimal choice, although we suspect that the talents will be re-balanced to favour one of the other two alternatives." |
| 09:40.58 | whyzerman | yeah I can see it being useful for feral |
| 09:42.25 | whyzerman | it seems like the only one worth tracking for feral is 108381 right? |
| 09:42.33 | Ackis | yeah |
| 09:46.59 | whyzerman | ./script spellid = select(11,UnitBuff("Whydrood","Dream of Cenarius")); print(spellid); |
| 09:47.09 | whyzerman | with both up, it returns 381 |
| 09:47.10 | Mr_Rabies | i actually watch both, myself |
| 09:47.15 | Mr_Rabies | wel |
| 09:47.35 | Mr_Rabies | well, don't necessarily watch them, but they're both important for my playstyle |
| 09:47.37 | whyzerman | well 108381 |
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| 09:48.31 | Mr_Rabies | i'm constantly weaving in free instant HTs in while i dps |
| 09:48.40 | Mr_Rabies | helping boost my dps and keep the group alive |
| 09:49.22 | Mr_Rabies | i take cenarion ward though instead of nature's swiftness |
| 09:49.44 | Mr_Rabies | i get enough free casts already and ward is a nice boost to group survivability for so many fights |
| 09:49.48 | whyzerman | ok, its possible to have both up at the same time, but the first one is always going to be 108381 and the 2nd is always going to be 108382 |
| 09:51.01 | whyzerman | so you can use the script I posted above, or you can use UnitBuff("Whydrood",1,"Dream of Cenarius") and UnitBuff("Whydrood",2,"Dream of Cenarius"); if you want to check for both |
| 09:51.25 | whyzerman | 1 and 2 being the index of the spells if both are up |
| 09:53.07 | whyzerman | nvm index is the index of current buffs up on "name" |
| 09:53.11 | whyzerman | so that wouldnt work |
| 09:53.56 | whyzerman | but either way, with both buffs up, UnitBuff("Whydrood","Dream of Cenarius") always = 108381 |
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| 09:59.42 | Ackis | you're making assumptions that are not true... both buffs can be up, or just one |
| 10:01.24 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 10:04.02 | whyzerman | both buffs can be up or just one, but with both buffs up, Dream of Cenarius is always going to be 108381 - if you only want to track that one, then if UnitBuff("Player","Dream of Cenarius") == 108131 then... |
| 10:07.12 | whyzerman | yeah I just tested it in game, there is no way you can get 108132 to be first (at least not any way I can think of) |
| 10:08.07 | Ackis | I need to look at it when I don't have a bunch of sleeping drugs in my system... for tonight I'm done |
| 10:09.09 | whyzerman | I think its because of the spell id's - but I think if you want to track both spells, its best to do a loop to get all the spell id's of all the buffs currently up, then do something with that information |
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| 12:57.27 | karl_w_w | good news: normal mode trash can drop thunderforged items |
| 12:57.34 | karl_w_w | i should know, i just won some :P |
| 13:12.06 | Adys | rofl |
| 13:12.13 | Adys | "Great, now I need to switch to Python 3.4. |
| 13:12.13 | Adys | Oooooor I could stay on 2.7 FOREEEEVEEEEEEEER!!!!" |
| 13:33.48 | karl_w_w | I don't see the point in frozen yoghurt |
| 13:34.10 | karl_w_w | the list of things better than frozen yoghurt includes ice cream, sorbet, and unfrozen yoghurt |
| 13:37.24 | Fisker | mad karl_w_w ? |
| 13:46.55 | karl_w_w | not at all Fisker |
| 13:47.03 | karl_w_w | you? |
| 13:47.08 | Fisker | nope |
| 13:47.18 | Fisker | hey Adys |
| 13:47.32 | Fisker | have Blizzard ever commented why you can't use for example the wow and d3 launcher at the same time |
| 13:47.32 | Adys | wat |
| 13:47.36 | Adys | er |
| 13:47.39 | Adys | its because of mpq locks |
| 13:47.46 | Adys | the launcher has to open the mpqs |
| 13:47.51 | Fisker | wow uses the same mpq's as d3? |
| 13:48.14 | Fisker | or do you mean like for launcher resources? |
| 13:48.19 | Adys | those |
| 13:48.22 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 13:48.33 | Adys | also i suspect blizzard is too lazy not to detect theres an agent running already |
| 13:48.34 | karl_w_w | its agent |
| 13:48.41 | Adys | Maldivia knows how it works better than i do |
| 13:48.47 | karl_w_w | u can run them both |
| 13:48.53 | Fisker | Maldivia is a traitor though |
| 13:48.53 | Adys | but the launcher runs an agent on a local port |
| 13:49.10 | karl_w_w | but u have to launch the second when the first is still initializing |
| 13:49.32 | Adys | dude what happened to your y and o keys |
| 13:49.54 | karl_w_w | I lst them |
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| 14:09.18 | haste | you traded them in for money didn't you?! |
| 14:09.34 | karl_w_w | of course |
| 14:14.10 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 14:14.13 | Fisker | no surface pro yet :( |
| 14:14.23 | haste | you'll never get that surface pro |
| 14:15.54 | Fisker | actually i will haste |
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| 14:39.14 | Silvanas | do you guys know any sort of libary (not a real one as you cant load libaries in wow), to compress tables to a compressed string, like zip the data? |
| 14:40.43 | ZorbaGama | there's serialization libraries out there that you can find - I always end up working off the serialization library written by a guy named "the color black" |
| 14:41.02 | haste | Silvanas: http://lua-users.org/wiki/CompressionAndArchiving -- there's a couple pure lua implementations |
| 14:42.02 | haste | unless you just want to save strings and not compress |
| 14:42.02 | ZorbaGama | as for compression, I don't know if there's any *good* libraries out there, but there's a functional one embedded into questhelper |
| 14:42.23 | Silvanas | oww intresting |
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| 14:43.02 | Silvanas | we got a DKP Addon and it stored the full dkp info since the day we started using it, its not 1,5 Mb of saved data that i though, it mgiht be better to archive instead of store in its full table format |
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| 15:09.40 | AcidWeb | Silvanas: About how big table we talking about? |
| 15:17.40 | mikma_ | like, knights of the round table -big? |
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| 15:52.05 | Arazon | Any idea as to why a cast bar animation would be choppy? |
| 15:58.30 | Semlar | not updating frequently enough |
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| 16:15.51 | pompy | http://gamerant.com/half-life-2-oculus-support-beta-update/ |
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| 16:20.50 | Silvanas | they should make portal 3 or half live 3 instead |
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| 16:32.26 | zenzelezz | I'm still disappointed with HL2. Was a technically good game, but going from the chaotic aftermath of an experiment gone wrong to some crazy dystopian global society just doesn't work for me |
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| 16:35.44 | karl_w_w | sounds like it makes perfect sense from a story point of view zenzelezz |
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| 16:47.05 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: depends how you see things. For me Black Mesa was just a single, solitary research incident. But I concede given the ending they could basically take it whichever direction they felt like (I never liked the ending) |
| 16:48.36 | nevcairiel | if you plan a sequel, you usually design the ending in such a away that it allows a bit of freedom in continuing the story |
| 16:49.05 | zenzelezz | yup |
| 16:49.36 | zenzelezz | and I'm not complaining about what they did with HL2; just saying I had wished for something very different |
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| 16:53.02 | Arazon | All of my cast bar addons (unit frame addon, independent addons, etc) all have choppy casting animations, as in being updated in large chunks. Any ideas as to what might cause this? |
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| 16:53.53 | bluspacecow | aliens |
| 16:55.16 | Adys | lol |
| 16:55.23 | Arazon | Anyone else? |
| 16:55.25 | Adys | Fisker: since when can you directly report bad hunter pet names |
| 16:56.12 | Adys | Arazon: never heard of that, tried with just the cast bar addon? |
| 16:56.20 | Adys | no other addon enabled |
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| 17:26.04 | Thunder_Child | options* |
| 17:26.08 | Adys | it couldnt be hdd corruption |
| 17:26.22 | Thunder_Child | just at the animation files location? |
| 17:26.31 | Adys | theres no "animation" |
| 17:26.35 | Adys | it's progressbar |
| 17:26.47 | Thunder_Child | I thought it was an image |
| 17:26.56 | Adys | no, he said other addons do it |
| 17:27.06 | Adys | so its all progressbars |
| 17:27.14 | Adys | and castbars dont rely on events iirc |
| 17:27.54 | Adys | i dont know how its possible for a castbar to be choppy without fps issues |
| 17:28.05 | Thunder_Child | latency |
| 17:28.20 | Adys | latency doesnt come into play |
| 17:28.27 | Thunder_Child | since that does not necessarily affect fps |
| 17:28.39 | Arazon | 100 ms latency |
| 17:28.44 | Arazon | Thats not an issue. |
| 17:28.52 | Arazon | Cast bars rely on frame refreshments |
| 17:28.55 | Adys | it doesnt come into play anyway, theres no events or anything |
| 17:29.44 | Arazon | They take the current time, add the cast time, and set the status bar frames min max values to be those two values |
| 17:29.59 | Arazon | then on each frame, they set the value of the status bar to be the time |
| 17:30.11 | Arazon | Or at least thats how I've seen it implemented |
| 17:32.20 | Adys | Arazon: you could always try implement your own castbar see where it's affected |
| 17:32.36 | Arazon | Thats what I was in the middle of doing lol |
| 17:32.41 | Arazon | Thats when I noticed it |
| 17:32.55 | Adys | print some debug stuff then |
| 17:33.05 | Arazon | I had it printing the current time on each frame, and it was fine |
| 17:33.34 | Arazon | the little bar that is at the end of the texture updated just fine, it's the actual background body of the cast thats choppy |
| 17:33.48 | Arazon | So it's the texture that forms the backdrop thats messed up. |
| 17:33.53 | Adys | try implement a different progressbar |
| 17:34.13 | Arazon | What do you mean? |
| 17:34.34 | Adys | see if its something else affecting it |
| 17:34.34 | Adys | idk |
| 17:35.35 | Arazon | well it's affecting the basic, default cast bar with absolutely no addons |
| 17:35.37 | Arazon | enabled |
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| 18:46.19 | Semlar | arazon's issue pretty much has to be his frame rate |
| 18:46.53 | Adys | it'd be obvious |
| 18:46.58 | Semlar | but irc exploded so he gone |
| 18:47.07 | Adys | you exploded |
| 18:47.11 | Semlar | i know :( |
| 18:49.32 | Semlar | a bunch of independent addons all with choppy animations? |
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| 18:49.52 | Adys | he said it happens without addons |
| 18:50.34 | Semlar | yeah but what i mean is it's basically affecting everything |
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| 18:51.15 | Semlar | i don't see how it could be anything but the frame rate |
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| 18:51.47 | Semlar | or a poor description |
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| 18:53.10 | Semlar | or he broke something that the default interface picked up |
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| 19:04.38 | whyzerman | .. |
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| 19:33.20 | karl_w_w | Christopher Nolan's batman: Tim Burton's batman in a world without lozenges. |
| 19:36.38 | Seerah | :) |
| 19:50.51 | Eridius | nevcairiel: any chance of getting this fixed? http://www.wowace.com/addons/mapster/tickets/128-lua-error-mapster-tries-to-call-protected-function/ |
| 19:59.54 | Mr_Rabies | i really need to rewatch the dark knight trilogy now that i know so, so much more about batman than i did prior |
| 20:00.47 | Mr_Rabies | my only gripe with those films at the moment is batman's batman voice |
| 20:00.52 | Mr_Rabies | it's not menacing, it's ridiculous |
| 20:05.31 | Semlar | it's not supposed to be menacing |
| 20:05.43 | Eridius | clearly batman should have been a clear baritone |
| 20:05.44 | Semlar | i think he's just trying to disguise his voice |
| 20:06.12 | Eridius | maybe batman got confused between bats and wolves, and he thinks bats speak like that |
| 20:06.16 | Eridius | s/speak/growl/ |
| 20:06.27 | Semlar | is that how wolves talk? |
| 20:06.35 | Eridius | well wolves growl |
| 20:08.21 | Mr_Rabies | it is supposed to be menacing, semlar |
| 20:08.29 | Mr_Rabies | it's part of his image |
| 20:08.30 | Semlar | how do you know |
| 20:08.46 | Mr_Rabies | fear is batman's #1 survival strategy |
| 20:09.02 | Mr_Rabies | his biggest problems are those that don't fear him |
| 20:09.31 | Semlar | then why does he talk in that ridiculous voice |
| 20:09.43 | Mr_Rabies | sure, it's good to disguise your voice as well but it's supposed to be menacing |
| 20:10.01 | Mr_Rabies | probably because it's a welsh guy doing an american accent then trying to make it sound menacing |
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