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| 00:50.14 | bluspacecow | http://www.kiwibank.co.nz/startrek/ |
| 00:50.17 | bluspacecow | lol. |
| 00:50.23 | bluspacecow | iceland is like space on earth? |
| 00:50.27 | bluspacecow | *giggle* |
| 00:59.07 | Dagmar | 'cept slightly fewer polar bears in spave. |
| 00:59.09 | Dagmar | er space. |
| 00:59.28 | bluspacecow | SPAVE |
| 00:59.32 | bluspacecow | the final frontier |
| 01:00.34 | Dagmar | Probably "frontieb" |
| 01:00.36 | Semlar | what would you know about spave |
| 01:00.50 | Dagmar | Well, for one thing, I can see it from my house. |
| 01:02.09 | Dagmar | Good enough for a presidential candidate. |
| 01:03.20 | Dagmar | I should run next time around. I can come up with a pretty nice "Votes for Guns" campaign I think. Show up to vote, and you'll be issued a firearm and two boxes of ammo. |
| 01:03.26 | Dagmar | _Then_ we'll see some real changes |
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| 02:17.54 | kd3 | ugh |
| 02:18.05 | kd3 | is more pissed than he has been in a while |
| 02:18.09 | kd3 | http://www.newser.com/story/166708/2nd-child-dies-after-parents-pick-prayer-over-medicine.html |
| 02:21.06 | TC-work | hmm...not sure how hypocritically fits in there. |
| 02:21.30 | TC-work | I mean they seem to be sticking with their convictions |
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| 03:49.04 | Eridius | how do you win charms via pet battles? I just did a bunch of battles and haven't won a single charm |
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| 03:51.00 | Dagmar | Were any of them challenging? |
| 03:51.17 | Dagmar | I rather doubt they'll let you have them for beating up on wharf rats. |
| 03:52.01 | Eridius | I just leveled Lil Tarecgosa from 1 to 5 beating up city pets, and got nothing. What does it take to get one? |
| 03:52.18 | Mr_Rabies | i think a team with at least one level 25 pet |
| 03:52.21 | Mr_Rabies | and a max level char |
| 03:52.33 | Mr_Rabies | fighting something....23 and higher? |
| 03:52.35 | Eridius | I know max level char, but the random stuff I've read around the internet does not say you need a 25 |
| 03:52.53 | Eridius | one forum post said you want a level 16 pet to make it more effective than dailies |
| 03:53.00 | Eridius | s/16/at least 16/ |
| 03:53.02 | Mr_Rabies | you could just be getting bad luck |
| 03:53.08 | Mr_Rabies | it's between 0 and 6 |
| 03:53.18 | Mr_Rabies | per win |
| 03:53.20 | Eridius | Mr_Rabies: I've done enough fights that I'm positive the drop rate is 0% for my fights |
| 03:53.35 | Mr_Rabies | do you have any 25s or anything near 25? |
| 03:53.44 | Eridius | nope. highest is level 7 |
| 03:53.54 | Dagmar | So do some battles in areas where you'd have to be level appropriate to get the charms, i.e., Pandaria |
| 03:54.10 | Dagmar | Ah you could have some 25's by morning. |
| 03:54.30 | Eridius | one guide I read a couple weeks ago explicitly suggested fighting level 1s in the city using a level 3 or higher Lil Tarecgosa |
| 03:54.39 | Eridius | so either they changed how this works since then, or there's some hidden requirement |
| 03:54.56 | Dagmar | Step #1: Murder everything until you get three blue pets. Start fighting (and capturing) two levels above, because you will damn well win. |
| 03:55.06 | Mr_Rabies | quick technique for getting 25s is basically just moving on from zone to zone skipping 3-5 levels at a time |
| 03:55.06 | Dagmar | Step #2: Repeat until 23. |
| 03:55.14 | Mr_Rabies | and capturing pets in each zone |
| 03:55.27 | Mr_Rabies | just using them to mvoe up and up |
| 03:55.32 | Eridius | Dagmar: hah I have 50+ blue pets.. |
| 03:55.33 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 03:55.38 | Mr_Rabies | once you have 2 25s you can level all the level 1s in no time |
| 03:55.53 | Mr_Rabies | just have the level 1 be your starter pet and attack then swap to something else |
| 03:56.03 | Dagmar | eridius: So it's a given they're going to kick the ass of any regular white pet that's 3 levels above them. Five levels if they're the opposing elemental type and you're crafty about it |
| 03:56.12 | Mr_Rabies | and level 25 pets don't sap exp from lower level pets |
| 03:56.19 | Mr_Rabies | it's as if you killed them on the lower level pet |
| 03:56.26 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: REALLY? |
| 03:56.28 | Mr_Rabies | with no assistance |
| 03:56.32 | Mr_Rabies | seems to be |
| 03:56.34 | Dagmar | Holy shit that's new |
| 03:56.55 | Dagmar | I was used to seeing it split the XP and just not giving the high level pet any |
| 03:56.56 | Eridius | is there any particular pet that's recommended to use as your first 25? |
| 03:57.04 | Dagmar | Eridius: Whatever you can get your hands on |
| 03:57.11 | Eridius | heh, like I said, I have 50+ blue pets.. |
| 03:57.21 | Mr_Rabies | a great pet to have as your first 25 is a kun-lai runt |
| 03:57.25 | Mr_Rabies | they're so powerful |
| 03:57.37 | Dagmar | You can't directly capture level 25s. Above 15 they start losing a level or two when you capture them, so you _will_ be grinding a few from 23 to 25. |
| 03:57.53 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: They're also obnoxiously rare |
| 03:58.01 | Mr_Rabies | not for my realm but it's pretty small |
| 03:58.11 | Dagmar | Not like, lottery-winning rare, but expect to spend a few hours until you get one that's not white |
| 03:58.20 | Mr_Rabies | ah, yeah, i guess so |
| 03:58.28 | Mr_Rabies | they're strong |
| 03:58.38 | Dagmar | They are however one of the _few_ high-level humanoid pets |
| 03:58.43 | Dagmar | Mechanicals and undead are also a bitch |
| 03:58.46 | Mr_Rabies | also strong once you have 2 25s is a sprite darter hatchling (or the wild equivalent) |
| 03:59.05 | Eridius | Dagmar: presumably you could just buy a polished battle-stone and grind those 2 levels back, no? |
| 03:59.09 | Eridius | if it takes that long to find a non-white |
| 03:59.23 | Dagmar | Yeah, but the battle stones are pretty rare. |
| 03:59.29 | Dagmar | Well,l sort of rare. |
| 03:59.29 | Eridius | Dagmar: polished is purchaseable |
| 03:59.33 | bluspacecow | http://thcnet.net/error/404.php |
| 03:59.35 | Mr_Rabies | if you have a lot of gold you could probably ask around and get a level 25 pet in a cage, but doing it the pokemon way from zone to zone is a lot more fun |
| 03:59.38 | Eridius | for justice |
| 03:59.43 | Dagmar | Eridius: Don't they just make the things green tho? |
| 03:59.53 | Eridius | Dagmar: well, you said non-white. Green is non-white |
| 03:59.59 | Eridius | if you meant blue specifically, then forget I said anything |
| 04:00.08 | Dagmar | Yeah but green is like two levels above. |
| 04:00.22 | Dagmar | You will generally *not* be taking down the final pokemon masters with green pets. |
| 04:00.40 | Mr_Rabies | the hardest one for me was the guy in shadowmoon valley |
| 04:00.45 | Dagmar | You can get fairly aggressive with blue pets, particularly the little harvester from Westfall. |
| 04:00.55 | Mr_Rabies | major payne was a major payne but only because of RNG |
| 04:01.29 | Dagmar | If you look at their stats, blue pets are simply effectively several levels higher than whites |
| 04:01.41 | Dagmar | ...which is why the freaking legendaries are nasty as f**k. |
| 04:01.53 | Dagmar | The epic ones just seem unfair. |
| 04:02.04 | Mr_Rabies | got-durned affirmative action |
| 04:02.26 | Dagmar | I'm still waiting to see the next tier where after the little squirrel murders your three pets, it then engages you in single combat and bites your leg off. |
| 04:03.08 | Mr_Rabies | i had more problems with some wild moth teams than many of the trainers |
| 04:03.12 | Mr_Rabies | moths are such a pain |
| 04:03.42 | Dagmar | I ain't trying to prove nothin'. I keep the elemental type chart open on my other monitor. |
| 04:03.52 | Dagmar | Magic pets. |
| 04:04.35 | Dagmar | I have a bigger problem with those goddam gazelles and their lolheals. |
| 04:05.00 | kd3 | hehehe http://i.imgur.com/HPOIdtK.gif |
| 04:05.36 | Dagmar | ...and in 3... 2... 1... NAPTIME. |
| 04:07.33 | Dagmar | Kinda the way I nap after four hours of playing Ingress |
| 04:07.49 | Fisker | hmm |
| 04:08.03 | Fisker | AOL Toolbar ad "Stop getting popup after popup" |
| 04:08.14 | Fisker | They do know we're past the year 2000 yes? |
| 04:08.28 | Dagmar | It's AOL so... no. Not really. |
| 04:09.15 | Dagmar | Just be glad they're not still calling you to try to get you to come back. |
| 04:10.46 | Dagmar | Eridius: I can actually fairly strongly suggest one thing tho. If you're facing three grey pets, _don't run_. Just kill them. |
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| 04:13.35 | Eridius | Dagmar: fighting pets 2 levels higher than me doesn't work so well when I can't heal between fights |
| 04:14.51 | Dagmar | So don't fight them all. |
| 04:15.00 | Eridius | what, kill one and run? |
| 04:15.02 | Dagmar | You can tell right away whether or not there's a blue pet in the mix you want. |
| 04:15.22 | Dagmar | If there's not, and it's not going to be an easy fight (whites/greys) just bail. |
| 04:15.47 | Eridius | ok, so only kill white/grey, capture blue, and run from anything else? |
| 04:15.58 | Eridius | blah, running knocks off 10% health? |
| 04:16.00 | Dagmar | If you capture the thing, you just added two levels to your roster. Talk to the nearest stable master and give them a dime, or use your healing cooldown |
| 04:16.13 | Dagmar | Yeah but it's _just_ 10%. |
| 04:16.28 | Dagmar | With blue pets you can do that 2-3 times and not be in any particular jeapordy |
| 04:17.03 | Dagmar | ...especially if you utilize the type advantages. |
| 04:17.28 | Dagmar | A blue pet on a white pet, using type advantage, is pretty much going to two-shot the thing, if not one-shot it |
| 04:17.56 | Dagmar | If you tote a third pet that can heal the others (they're not common but they exist) you can postpone that awhile |
| 04:18.43 | Dagmar | Between the cooldown and the bandages you get from bullying trainers, you're not going to have a lot of downtime, particularly if you're near a stablemaster |
| 04:18.54 | Dagmar | They're kind of all over because remember Hunters used to need them |
| 04:19.03 | Eridius | heh |
| 04:19.41 | Dagmar | Also, when your pets level... free heal |
| 04:19.51 | Dagmar | They also get some heals for winning (and not dying) |
| 04:20.04 | Dagmar | You can come out _ahead_ from crushing three greys |
| 04:21.49 | Eridius | sigh, greys are still doing tons of damage |
| 04:21.54 | Eridius | I don't see how I could possibly come out ahead by killing them |
| 04:22.09 | Dagmar | If you have blue pets and are fighting greys only three levels higher? |
| 04:22.26 | Dagmar | Exploit those type advantages and combos |
| 04:22.55 | Eridius | hard to epxloit type advantages when I don't exactly control the available enemies, and I can't swap around my own pets because I'm not levelling a bunch simultaneously |
| 04:23.13 | Dagmar | Snakes and so forth with poison/dots, get that dot down and swap to another pet that can take the hits |
| 04:23.31 | Eridius | dot does pretty low damage |
| 04:23.40 | Dagmar | Well see here's the thing, you're basically not leveling them at all until above 15. |
| 04:24.10 | Dagmar | Eridius: Add the three or five ticks of the dot together. It'll basically equal at _least_ one "typical" attack. |
| 04:24.19 | Dagmar | ...except the pet that did it doesn't have to be there anymore. |
| 04:24.28 | Eridius | woo, finally found a blue |
| 04:24.33 | Dagmar | He can be off to the side again while one of your other pets hits them _too_ |
| 04:25.03 | Eridius | if I capture a pet, do I have to finish the battle or can I run? |
| 04:25.04 | Dagmar | It's basically about how much damage you can have happening _pet turn_ |
| 04:25.11 | Dagmar | You have to finish the battle. |
| 04:25.17 | Eridius | ok |
| 04:25.30 | Dagmar | ...but you'll even get extra XP for having taking on up-level pets |
| 04:25.36 | Dagmar | XP and heals. |
| 04:25.45 | Eridius | true, but as you said, taht doesn't really matter since I'm just going to replace my current pet with the new blue |
| 04:25.54 | Dagmar | Yes, but you will |
| 04:25.59 | Dagmar | _eventually_ be leveling those |
| 04:26.04 | Eridius | sure, eventually |
| 04:26.11 | Dagmar | You're going to eventually want one 25 of each of the eight types. |
| 04:26.24 | Dagmar | ...and you'll want them to be blue. |
| 04:26.44 | Eridius | ok so once I hit 15, what do I do? still try to capture blues 3 levels higher, because that's worth a 1 level upgrade? Or just focus on levelling what I have? |
| 04:26.59 | Dagmar | Keep going after up-leveld pets |
| 04:27.13 | Dagmar | Until like 19 or so they only lose one level |
| 04:27.25 | Eridius | oh? ok |
| 04:28.54 | Dagmar | Fortune favors the bold, because your repair bill is only 10 silver. |
| 04:29.10 | Eridius | if I can get to a stablemaster |
| 04:29.41 | Dagmar | Also if you're running around collecting as many pets as you can get your greedy little hands on, as you wear oown their HP you can just swap them out for your other pets. |
| 04:29.43 | Eridius | ugh, this fight was a mistake. Found a blue, but I'm definitely not going to be able to finish it :/ |
| 04:30.04 | Eridius | ok, heal and try again |
| 04:30.11 | Eridius | my other pets'll be lower level :/ |
| 04:30.31 | Dagmar | At least they stop disappearing now |
| 04:30.47 | Eridius | disappearing? |
| 04:31.27 | Dagmar | Yes, if you failed/lost/fled, the spawan used to _just disappear_ |
| 04:31.31 | Eridius | ah |
| 04:31.50 | Dagmar | Now they stick around but they're someone else's problem |
| 04:32.45 | Eridius | phew, just barely won |
| 04:32.50 | Eridius | just one pet left at 65 health |
| 04:32.52 | Eridius | but I got my level 12 blue toad |
| 04:33.02 | Dagmar | Ooooh tanky |
| 04:33.38 | Dagmar | Some of those pets have _wildly_ effective combos. |
| 04:33.45 | Eridius | like what? |
| 04:33.49 | Dagmar | I'm pretty sure they nerfed the mechanical kitty, but it was all-around awesome |
| 04:34.11 | Dagmar | Okay, so your garden-variety mechanical squirrel, available from any engineer, for instance. |
| 04:34.46 | Eridius | yeah I have a nice level 1 mechanical squirrel |
| 04:35.18 | Dagmar | He has a pretty standard move for mechanicals... "Wind UP" . Jacks up the damage of the next attack. (I think they changed this when I wasn't looking) |
| 04:35.39 | Eridius | "increases your damage by 10%" |
| 04:36.25 | Dagmar | This doesn't sound like much, but it means you can throw down your next attack with 10% extra damage. Use it a second time and it hits basically twice as hard and then some from a "typical" attack because it's a two-part move |
| 04:36.45 | Dagmar | So, three rounds from the squirrel and most stuff is dead |
| 04:36.59 | Dagmar | Against a beast you just hit wind up twice. |
| 04:37.04 | Dagmar | *squish* |
| 04:38.30 | Dagmar | Two-turn moves are always something to look at closely, as are anyting that says "extra damage if you go first/last" |
| 04:39.12 | Dagmar | If you pay close attention to who goes first in the next turn, moves that let your pet fly up in the air or tunnel underground are practically two free licks |
| 04:39.17 | Eridius | frog kiss is neat |
| 04:39.30 | Dagmar | I *hate* that one |
| 04:39.34 | Eridius | FUCK |
| 04:39.38 | Eridius | just killed the blu.. |
| 04:39.41 | Eridius | wait no I didn't. ONE HEALTH BABY! |
| 04:39.53 | Eridius | I critted, and it ended up with 1/728 health left |
| 04:40.28 | Dagmar | I've done that so many times... Freaked out because the blue started kicking my ass, so I switched to a type-advantage pet and shout triumphantly "HAHA! Not so fast you... dead... thing, damnit." |
| 04:40.38 | Eridius | ..fuck. the chicken just hit me for 402 damage (my remaining health). I didn't realize it was strong against me |
| 04:40.43 | bluspacecow | whats the current PVP season again ? |
| 04:40.44 | Eridius | now it's going to kill me because my other pets aren't high enough level |
| 04:40.52 | bluspacecow | season 9 ? |
| 04:40.52 | Dagmar | There's an addon for that(tm). |
| 04:41.14 | Eridius | ..wait wtf? Why do I only have two pets? Where'd my third pet go? |
| 04:41.23 | bluspacecow | it died |
| 04:41.26 | Eridius | after capturing that blue now I need to run away because I don't even have my freaking third pet |
| 04:41.27 | Dagmar | It just got knocked the hell out did it not? |
| 04:41.29 | Eridius | bluspacecow: nope |
| 04:41.35 | Eridius | no I mean I have 2 pets, total, right now |
| 04:42.03 | Eridius | oh wtf, I ran away, and the pet didn't respawn |
| 04:42.17 | Eridius | killing/capturing one pet in a battle must block that from happening :( |
| 04:42.23 | Eridius | no blue for me |
| 04:43.00 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 04:43.11 | bluspacecow | *gently pats Eridius* |
| 04:44.12 | Dagmar | It'll happen again, don't worry. |
| 04:44.39 | Eridius | ok I see a blue in this fight, let's see if I can get him |
| 04:44.43 | Dagmar | I can just about promise you that at least once in the next week you're going to be saying "oh god please don't crit please don't crit please don't crit" |
| 04:44.47 | Eridius | hehe |
| 04:45.03 | Eridius | oww, 6 round poison. Nasty |
| 04:46.48 | Eridius | yess |
| 04:51.18 | Dagmar | Oh, in addition to direct type advantages, each type has a special thing |
| 04:51.33 | Dagmar | Like, undead might die, but they WILL get in a free lick first. |
| 04:51.39 | Eridius | oh? |
| 04:51.47 | Dagmar | Mechanicals fall over, but will always pop back up for one last shot. |
| 04:52.05 | Dagmar | You can use both of these if you see the other pet is winding up a really massive move. |
| 04:52.37 | Dagmar | Who cares if he hits for a jillion points because the undead pet will still have one HP left. |
| 04:52.47 | Eridius | heh |
| 04:52.57 | Eridius | but if you're slower than the other guy, that 1hp might not mean much |
| 04:53.16 | Dagmar | nope. It does mean you still get to deliver your attack. |
| 04:53.34 | Dagmar | You deploy the pet, they knock it over (or to one HP) and it still gets an attack in |
| 04:53.55 | Eridius | if you deploy the pet, don't they get to attack it that same round? It falls over, gets up with 1hp, then dies when the enemy goes again with his speed advantage |
| 04:53.57 | Dagmar | ...cuz it went last |
| 04:54.33 | Dagmar | Not that I've noticed. Mainly I just rely on those being able to get one last shot off |
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| 04:56.24 | Dagmar | When you're genuinely outclassed, who goes when matters a great deal |
| 04:57.19 | Dagmar | Particularly when you flip that so that you are now going first, you're basically getting a chance to prevent them doing damage that turn. |
| 04:57.31 | Dagmar | ...becuase if they die, they don't get their move. |
| 04:57.57 | Eridius | by fighting higher-level enemies, they always go first :/ |
| 04:58.15 | Dagmar | You're basically standing there smacking your bars into their bars, so each exchange is about yours remaining bigger than theirs |
| 04:58.24 | Dagmar | They only go first because of their speed stat. |
| 04:58.32 | Dagmar | THere are slows and speed boosts you can use |
| 04:58.50 | Eridius | wtf I keep missing. This freaking grey is going to kill me after I captured the blue :/ |
| 04:58.53 | Dagmar | You'll also find pets that can hit harder if and only if they go last |
| 04:59.12 | Dagmar | You can thank some asshat at Blizz for that one |
| 04:59.24 | Dagmar | I wholly disagree with the idea that pet battles should be slower |
| 04:59.37 | Eridius | slower? They're already slow |
| 04:59.39 | Eridius | phew, beat it |
| 04:59.54 | Eridius | got myself a level 17 blue, 4 levels above my 13 :D |
| 05:00.00 | Eridius | well.. it was 17. Now it's 16 |
| 05:00.01 | Dagmar | No, before it was more like pokemon where everything pretty much had a 100% hit chance unless it said otherwise |
| 05:00.39 | Dagmar | Some ninny decided that it would make the battles more elaborate if they added a higher base miss rate, but basically it just makes the outcome _more random_ as well. |
| 05:00.47 | Dagmar | Nintendoized egalitarian crap. |
| 05:00.50 | Eridius | :/ |
| 05:01.35 | Dagmar | Since a lot of fights are a matter of you getting in three licks to their two, missing can f**k you |
| 05:01.52 | Eridius | yeah missing is horrible |
| 05:02.16 | Dagmar | ...but keep in mind you are deliberately pushing your luck to speed up the level climb. |
| 05:02.33 | Dagmar | In a "fair" fight, the type advantages are mainly going to make those misses irrelevant. |
| 05:02.35 | Eridius | bah I have to go to outland |
| 05:02.57 | Dagmar | Be sure and _get a flayer_ |
| 05:03.04 | Eridius | oh? |
| 05:03.12 | Dagmar | They're one of the highest level humanoids you're going to see for a _while_ |
| 05:03.18 | Eridius | and that's important? |
| 05:03.36 | Dagmar | When you're fighting dragon types? Yes. |
| 05:04.02 | Dagmar | Dragons tend to have a lot of fancy moves that are nasty. |
| 05:04.30 | Dagmar | I've got some purply drake that basically burps up three purple fireballs in a row |
| 05:04.30 | Eridius | and humanoids are strong against dragnos? |
| 05:04.35 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 05:05.35 | Dagmar | http://www.wowpedia.org/images/7/7c/BattlePets.png |
| 05:05.44 | Eridius | ooh |
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| 05:05.51 | Dagmar | Keep it handy or get an addon that will remind you |
| 05:05.56 | Eridius | any addon you recommend? |
| 05:06.05 | Dagmar | Use the right type of attack, and it's basically a lick and a half |
| 05:06.06 | Eridius | all I have right now is petjournal enhanced and petbattle teams. Neither actually does anything for me in combat |
| 05:06.24 | Dagmar | Lemme see WTF that third one I use is |
| 05:07.50 | Dagmar | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/pokemon-trainer |
| 05:08.00 | Eridius | heh, nic name |
| 05:08.12 | Dagmar | Ther'es another one in there somewhere that will make the "best" buttons light up |
| 05:08.16 | Eridius | bleh that screenshot is kinda ugly |
| 05:08.31 | Dagmar | Yes well, that thing is about omniscience, not about aesthetics |
| 05:09.28 | Dagmar | It's main utility is that if you see a bunch of green up-arrows on the right, _that's the pet you don't want to put in the way_ |
| 05:09.36 | Eridius | heh |
| 05:10.36 | Dagmar | ...but you can absolutely look it over in a hurry and figure out which pets to swap out to when. |
| 05:11.58 | Eridius | hrm I'm in the area that wowhead says flayer younglings live at but I see zero pets |
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| 05:12.13 | Dagmar | They're offspring. |
| 05:12.16 | Dagmar | Murder some shit. |
| 05:12.20 | Eridius | whaa? |
| 05:12.23 | Dagmar | THey'll spawn with adult flayers. |
| 05:12.26 | Eridius | pets spawn when you murder stuff? |
| 05:12.36 | Dagmar | Well, they spawn when their parents respawn. |
| 05:12.47 | Dagmar | There's some little mammoths or whatever over in Nagrand that are the same way |
| 05:12.48 | Eridius | so why aren't htey wandering around? People cleared them out already? |
| 05:12.52 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 05:13.30 | Dagmar | I mean if you're 90, a level 75 flayer is just mainly glad you're not showing an interest in them |
| 05:13.49 | Eridius | heh, they're not even 75 |
| 05:13.52 | Dagmar | As long as you don't step right on them or something, you can certainly make off with their kid |
| 05:14.50 | Eridius | how rare is the pet spawn? The adults are starting to spawn again but so far no pets |
| 05:15.11 | Dagmar | You shoudn't be waiting very long for one to show up |
| 05:15.49 | Dagmar | There is also this: http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/pettracker |
| 05:16.32 | Dagmar | Those are generally their exact spawn locations, much like mining nodes with Gatherer. |
| 05:16.54 | Eridius | nice |
| 05:16.56 | Dagmar | It just doesn't mention certain things, like... the damn thing only spawns at the ass-crack of dawn. |
| 05:17.27 | Dagmar | ...or the swamp goobers of Zangarmarsh. |
| 05:17.39 | Dagmar | Yes, their all over, but _when_ is anyone's guess. |
| 05:17.57 | Dagmar | It just sort of up and decides to spawn a shitload of them all at once, like something just burst open. |
| 05:18.05 | Dagmar | ...then nothing for a long time. |
| 05:19.30 | Dagmar | Damn just looking at that map makes me want to murder Pat Negel again |
| 05:19.35 | Dagmar | er Nagel |
| 05:20.54 | Eridius | grr still no flayer spawns |
| 05:21.15 | Dagmar | They're only up on that one ridge that was added after that expansion came out |
| 05:21.40 | Eridius | yeah that's where I am |
| 05:21.44 | Eridius | (never saw this rise before) |
| 05:21.49 | Dagmar | If you're *flying* back and forth, there may still be isues with CRZ zoning. |
| 05:21.52 | Eridius | also wowhead comments suggest that it's not actually tied to killing mobs |
| 05:21.55 | Dagmar | Touch down every so often |
| 05:25.05 | Dagmar | I'm sure none of the posters even mention rubbing lucky cheese on the mouse. |
| 05:25.33 | Eridius | "Wild upgrades have appeared" <- wat? |
| 05:25.54 | Eridius | is that pettracker telling me there's an upgraded pet in the battle? |
| 05:26.04 | Dagmar | Probably. |
| 05:26.09 | Dagmar | Sometimes it's just insanely wrong. |
| 05:26.35 | Dagmar | Generally it means that at least one of the pets is higher quality and/or level than the one you currently have |
| 05:26.49 | Eridius | arkinventory already lets me check that |
| 05:27.47 | Shirik | hey guys. If you decide to violate someone's copyright in a video on youtube, the thing to write is not "No copyrights intended." |
| 05:27.57 | Eridius | o_O |
| 05:28.17 | Shirik | I mean the whole "no copyright violation intended" is stupid anyway, but yes, we are well aware that you aren't declaring copyright on someone else's work, thanks |
| 05:29.18 | Dagmar | I'd rahter just have those people murdered because of their terrible taste in what to steal |
| 05:29.43 | Dagmar | Much of YouTube would be better accompanied by complete silence. |
| 05:31.58 | Dagmar | Let me amend that. I would rather hear their agonized screams as they're forced to watch their own crap on endless loop, than the craptacular piece of ear garbage they decided to use without permission. |
| 05:32.46 | Dagmar | The phrase is generally a dead giveaway that you're looking at crap. |
| 05:36.21 | karl_w_w | is there a word that means to set a price on something so high as to make the thing unattainable? |
| 05:36.24 | karl_w_w | i feel like there is |
| 05:36.42 | karl_w_w | word or phrase |
| 05:36.51 | Shirik | stupid? |
| 05:37.24 | karl_w_w | I am not :( |
| 05:37.30 | Dagmar | "exorbitant"? |
| 05:37.41 | Primer | Anyone notice that Silence hasn't been working? |
| 05:37.45 | Dagmar | Oh! "CALL FOR PRICE" |
| 05:37.54 | Eridius | never heard that phrase before |
| 05:38.10 | Primer | I had no debuff, and I was spamming my Silence key over and over and over, and it did nothing |
| 05:38.39 | Dagmar | Well, let's just say that if you're looking for cardboard boxes online, and you find some that say "CALL FOR PRICE", you can rest assured that it will be cheaper to call a hooker and have her bring some empty boxes over. |
| 05:38.40 | karl_w_w | Primer: is it a macro? |
| 05:38.50 | Primer | no |
| 05:38.57 | karl_w_w | using a bar mod? |
| 05:39.08 | Primer | errr, actually, it is |
| 05:39.11 | Primer | dammit |
| 05:39.16 | karl_w_w | I have seen people using silence lately so the spell is working |
| 05:39.35 | Primer | actually it was not |
| 05:39.43 | Dagmar | karl_w_w: "invaluable" sort of gets there |
| 05:39.53 | Primer | unless I was lagging |
| 05:39.59 | Eridius | did someone go ahead and write that suggested addon that shows you the items you could get from your bonus roll? |
| 05:40.14 | karl_w_w | atlas loot? written a while ago :P |
| 05:40.21 | Eridius | :P |
| 05:40.50 | Shirik | Any vim experts here? I wanted to execute command "J" on every line that matches a pattern, so I typed :g/[^\r\n ]/J |
| 05:40.59 | Shirik | but it's telling me "J is not an editor command" any ideas? |
| 05:41.02 | karl_w_w | people still use vim? |
| 05:41.08 | Shirik | I can't live without vim |
| 05:41.38 | Primer | this is very odd, because it's not the first time this has happened |
| 05:42.14 | Eridius | Shirik: :g runs :ex commands |
| 05:42.33 | Dagmar | I just use perl for things like that |
| 05:42.48 | Eridius | Shirik: also, how's a line going to include \r or \n, since those separate lines |
| 05:42.57 | Shirik | that was more of me double-checking that it's right |
| 05:43.00 | Shirik | it doesn't really matter :) |
| 05:43.27 | Shirik | basically what I'm trying to do is condense these automatically generated "paragraphs" into a single line |
| 05:43.31 | Shirik | it inserted line breaks randomly |
| 05:43.33 | Shirik | and I want them to gtfo |
| 05:43.43 | Eridius | Shirik: you can use :join |
| 05:43.47 | Eridius | so :g/foo/join |
| 05:43.50 | Shirik | ah |
| 05:43.57 | Dagmar | Well, you can probably match \r by making sure dosmode is off, but he's right about the \n |
| 05:44.13 | Dagmar | Perhaps ^$ |
| 05:44.39 | Eridius | maybe just use :g/./join |
| 05:44.44 | Dagmar | There's a bit in the vim wiki that seems to have this specific case http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Power_of_g |
| 05:44.46 | Eridius | that'll run :join on any line that actually has something |
| 05:45.15 | Shirik | problem is some lines have spaces |
| 05:45.20 | Dagmar | Eridus: Won't that make um, one giant-ass line? |
| 05:45.35 | Shirik | some blank lines that is |
| 05:45.49 | Eridius | Dagmar: if you have a blank line separating the paragraphs it won't join through that |
| 05:45.57 | Eridius | Shirik: ok use [^ ] |
| 05:45.57 | Dagmar | Shirik: Hence the mention of \s* on the vim page |
| 05:46.07 | Shirik | yeah that's what I did Eridius |
| 05:48.23 | Shirik | I honestly think this document was made just to fuck me |
| 05:48.31 | Shirik | I just found out it's not quite that simple |
| 05:50.26 | Primer | it just happened again |
| 05:50.29 | Primer | I could not silence |
| 05:50.34 | Primer | I could cast everything else just fine |
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| 07:33.19 | zenzio | don't suppose there are anyone awake that have experience with SSL; in particular self-signed certificates? Trying to use one generated by IIS by installing it on the client computers, but I just can't seem to get it right, bit lost for ideas by now |
| 07:33.34 | zenzio | client computers = Windows, if it matters |
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| 08:03.39 | Eridius | zenzio: I know a little in general, but absolutely nothing to do with Windows |
| 08:05.04 | zenzio | I think I'm just not understanding something somewhere along the line. I've followed a few guides that have instructed me on how to import the certificate into Firefox or Windows, and despite both of them claiming the import worked, they still give the SSL warning |
| 08:05.30 | zenzio | starting to wonder if it's something about the way IIS makes self-signed certificates, but I wouldn't know how to check |
| 08:05.41 | Semlar|Laptop | i think a free certificate will always give a warning |
| 08:05.55 | zenzio | the idea is that importing it on the client computer will stop that |
| 08:06.15 | zenzio | at least that's what the guides I read claimed |
| 08:06.55 | bluspacecow | you know you play minecraft too much when โฆ you come to a dimly lite corner in world of warcraft and you immediately start looking for torches in your pack |
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| 09:59.16 | VIad | anyone ever experienced that their addon behaves differently on someone elses machine? :P |
| 10:00.25 | AcidWeb | VIad: Every piece of code touched by end user start to break in impossible places. |
| 10:01.08 | VIad | I've had some of my addons behave weird at login, when their data is loaded - ended up with people saying my addon resets their settings and such, tough it would never happen if the loading process was constant among all clients |
| 10:01.20 | VIad | I have my eye out for mac/wine users, maybe things are a bit different on those platforms |
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| 10:10.28 | VIad | AcidWeb: not sure if you have experienced it, but I have had people saying that with only running the addon, logging in and leaving, apparently they experienced stuff not being saved or loaded properly :P |
| 10:10.48 | VIad | but to my experience SV should be loaded as ADDON_LOADED fires, but apparently it may vary between some OS |
| 10:11.29 | VIad | if I had a mac or wine machine I'd test my addon on it but I don't so can't help fix issues people on those platform experience - and if it's not platform depended then I am not sure why on earth one client would act different from another, hardware? :P |
| 10:11.47 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:12.04 | VIad | lick all you like - I taste salty |
| 10:13.59 | VIad | http://pastebin.com/XjuZBxAv - how bad is it, doctor? |
| 10:14.57 | nevcairiel | This is a private paste |
| 10:14.57 | bluspacecow | *gasp* |
| 10:15.00 | VIad | ! |
| 10:15.03 | bluspacecow | private paste |
| 10:15.09 | VIad | fixd' |
| 10:15.16 | bluspacecow | i dun wan moah sites to steal my keys! |
| 10:15.43 | nevcairiel | TL;DR |
| 10:15.57 | VIad | if you have SV for saving, and you SV={} at the top of your lua file, it acts like fallback, so when ADDON_LOADED fires it is populated with your properly saved data |
| 10:16.11 | VIad | could this differ between machines? I doubt it, but... |
| 10:16.32 | nevcairiel | its not guaranteed that the SV is available when the main chunk of your addon executes |
| 10:16.40 | VIad | ofc |
| 10:16.47 | nevcairiel | it may load later |
| 10:16.48 | VIad | I wait for addon_loaded |
| 10:16.56 | VIad | before I use SV at all |
| 10:17.37 | VIad | but maybe if you involve xml (like I do for template) the loading process is a bit different? not sure |
| 10:18.42 | VIad | dunno, works just fine for me - but does make you wonder if many others say it doesn't save for them, or that their data resets :P |
| 10:18.52 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/patch-notes/under-dev |
| 10:18.56 | bluspacecow | LOLOLOLOLOLOL |
| 10:19.04 | bluspacecow | "An error has occurred" |
| 10:19.09 | VIad | works for me |
| 10:19.10 | bluspacecow | almost every paragraph |
| 10:19.12 | nevcairiel | same |
| 10:19.23 | bluspacecow | read it |
| 10:19.35 | nevcairiel | looks fine |
| 10:19.43 | bluspacecow | they'll have a paragraph explaining a new feature . then at the end "an error has occured" :P |
| 10:19.55 | nevcairiel | not here |
| 10:19.58 | bluspacecow | chromes acting up maybe :) |
| 10:20.25 | Humbedooh | mebbe it's not compatible with cows |
| 10:20.36 | Humbedooh | moos furiously at bluspacecow |
| 10:20.37 | VIad | http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/614/5136562139.jpg |
| 10:20.43 | bluspacecow | moooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 10:22.02 | VIad | btw I found out too late that macro worksheets in excel 2003+ use a special format |
| 10:22.06 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 10:22.14 | VIad | and that apache poi doesn't work for the latest format -_- |
| 10:22.16 | bluspacecow | Chrome Mac bug. |
| 10:22.25 | bluspacecow | doesn't show up in Safari |
| 10:24.13 | VIad | hmm, when I opened up some pages that render fine on Chrome/Firefox/latest-IE on Opera the site was really bugged |
| 10:24.19 | VIad | Opera runs on old engine? |
| 10:24.32 | bluspacecow | dunno |
| 10:24.46 | bluspacecow | but both Chrome and Safari both use webkit on os x afaik |
| 10:25.47 | VIad | shame there isn't a unified rendering engine to help show stuff the same regardless of browser |
| 10:25.58 | VIad | getting boring with css hacks |
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| 10:48.34 | VIad | anyone wanna chat about something? |
| 10:54.36 | zenzio | fetches his robe and wizard's hat |
| 11:01.08 | bluspacecow | *takes it off* |
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| 11:28.26 | Maldivia | VIad: Opera uses Presto, but are switching to WebKit/Blink |
| 11:41.46 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:41.48 | bluspacecow | hi |
| 11:41.53 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:45.50 | Maldivia | bluspacecow: good and salty? |
| 11:45.58 | bluspacecow | omnom nom |
| 11:46.05 | bluspacecow | MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 11:47.32 | VIad | why doesn't excel have built in row/col highlight when you move your focus cell around? -_- |
| 11:47.51 | VIad | fyi macros suck and I try to avoid them at all cost |
| 11:48.34 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/8704740814 |
| 11:48.42 | bluspacecow | lololol wow macros dont work dat way |
| 11:49.19 | VIad | "there is absolutely no way that instant cast spells should be interrupted" |
| 11:49.24 | VIad | how do you interrupt instant cast spells? |
| 11:49.35 | bluspacecow | ESP |
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| 11:49.41 | bluspacecow | oh hai Peppy |
| 11:49.57 | VIad | I know silence, but interrupt means you use an ability to stop the casting bar from finishing :P |
| 11:51.30 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Blueberry. *hug* |
| 12:04.05 | airtonix | diablo3 is a boring game |
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| 13:07.01 | doub | when calling GetCursorInfo while having a battle pet on the cursor, i get "battlepet" followed by a string containing an hexadecimal number |
| 13:07.53 | doub | how can i get the critter index to pass to CallCompanion from that info? |
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| 14:38.06 | VIad | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/386.html |
| 14:38.29 | VIad | doub: you want to spawn the companion using the petID (hex)? |
| 14:40.20 | doub | yes, kindof |
| 14:40.32 | doub | i want to drop a pet on my addon frame, and then later spawn that pet |
| 14:40.59 | doub | I'm currently using GetCursorInfo to retrieve what is on the cursor, but maybe there is a better way |
| 14:41.16 | alestane | dances with Lopeppeppy. |
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| 14:41.29 | VIad | hmm |
| 14:41.44 | Lopeppeppy | feeds alestane M&Ms. |
| 14:41.59 | VIad | so you drag and drop the pet into some custom object |
| 14:42.12 | VIad | and use the getcursorinfo to extract the battlepet petID |
| 14:42.47 | doub | that's what GetCursorInfo gives me when i drop a battle pet |
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| 14:43.17 | doub | all i need to know is how to call that pet from that info, directly or indirectly |
| 14:43.31 | VIad | hmm, apparently the old companion system returns 0 pets on my end |
| 14:43.33 | VIad | trial account :P |
| 14:43.40 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:43.43 | VIad | for you too or? |
| 14:43.55 | doub | no, i get 98 |
| 14:44.05 | VIad | I can access the pet journal and manage my team |
| 14:44.09 | doub | but CallCompanion("critter", 1) does nothing |
| 14:44.22 | VIad | and I can spawn the pets, but the companion API doesn't work for me hehe |
| 14:44.53 | doub | i'm updating a pre-MoP addon |
| 14:45.10 | VIad | maybe |
| 14:45.35 | VIad | the petID contains data about companion index, spellID, something |
| 14:45.44 | VIad | but doesn't seem so on second glance, hmm |
| 14:46.04 | VIad | but you can do this |
| 14:47.43 | doub | is there a place i can download the base 5.x wow ui from blizzard? that way i'll see how it handles GetCursorInfo returning "battlepet","0xS0m37h1ng" |
| 14:48.06 | nevcairiel | that part is implemented in the client itself, and not visible |
| 14:48.13 | nevcairiel | for all the base wow ui lua code |
| 14:48.14 | nevcairiel | ~framexml |
| 14:48.15 | purl | hmm... framexml is Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console or open 'World of Warcraft.app' --args -console after game loads press ~ and enter commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 14:48.26 | nevcairiel | but that doesnt give you the stuff implemented in C |
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| 14:49.52 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:50.11 | VIad | doub: try my macro, just copy it and drag a pet icon then run it in the chat to see if it spawns your pet :P |
| 14:51.46 | doub | it doesn't |
| 14:51.54 | VIad | maybe I did a typo |
| 14:52.06 | doub | got no error |
| 14:52.25 | VIad | it gets petID from GetCursorInfo, then it gets the information about the pet from C_PetJournal.GetPetInfoByPetID, the 11th returned value from it is creatureID |
| 14:52.47 | doub | nevcairiel: do you know how to open the console in a non-english client (fr in my case)? |
| 14:52.49 | VIad | then you iterate all companions until you match the creatureID with GetCompanionInfo (first returned value is creatureID) |
| 14:53.17 | VIad | doub: set system locale to English US or enable language bar and add English to it, and switch language so the console key works |
| 14:53.25 | VIad | remember to start the game with -console |
| 14:54.56 | doub | is language bar an addon? |
| 14:55.10 | VIad | OS feature |
| 14:55.45 | VIad | http://i.imgur.com/ySZGfn9.jpg |
| 14:55.48 | doub | right, ~ on enUS keyboard into a frFR client does the job, no need to change the wow language |
| 14:55.57 | VIad | lucky you |
| 14:56.03 | VIad | mine is | and ยง key |
| 14:56.08 | VIad | and does't trigger the console |
| 14:56.28 | VIad | and the key that I use to make ~ uses modifier, probably doesn't work for the console toggling |
| 14:56.37 | VIad | hmm |
| 14:56.45 | VIad | maybe I can rebind some button to be pure console button:o |
| 14:56.57 | doub | i get an "Unknown command" when typing ExportInterfaceFiles |
| 14:57.13 | VIad | write "export" and press tab |
| 14:57.18 | VIad | to complete the sentence for you |
| 14:57.27 | VIad | then add space, and code or art |
| 14:57.33 | doub | no completion |
| 14:57.35 | VIad | "code" or "art" to export lua or the images |
| 14:57.44 | VIad | maybe needs capital "e" |
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| 14:58.24 | doub | no, if I type E, x, TAB, all I get is "expandUpgradePanel" |
| 14:58.56 | VIad | tab more |
| 14:59.05 | doub | nothing else |
| 14:59.07 | VIad | lol |
| 14:59.16 | VIad | maybe it's |
| 14:59.25 | VIad | interfaceexport... something |
| 14:59.45 | doub | int<tab> yields only interactOnLeftClick |
| 15:00.52 | VIad | ok I'll look it up for you :P |
| 15:01.04 | VIad | it is "ExportInterfaceFiles code" |
| 15:01.15 | VIad | "Note: The ExportInterfaceFiles command only works from the actual console (accessed by starting WoW with the -console flag, then pressing `, and not via a /console slash command) while on the login screen (and maybe the character selection screen). Once you're in the game, it no longer works and you will just get an "Unknown Command" response." |
| 15:01.45 | doub | did you test it ingame ? |
| 15:01.50 | doub | i still get "Unknown command" |
| 15:01.57 | VIad | I just use it at login screen |
| 15:02.02 | VIad | don't even bother to login the account |
| 15:02.07 | doub | i'll try that |
| 15:02.15 | doub | maybe it doesn't work once ui is loaded |
| 15:02.24 | doub | *ingame ui |
| 15:02.45 | doub | worked in login screen |
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| 15:03.03 | VIad | don't hate me! pushed the sleep button lol :P |
| 15:03.20 | doub | hum, sorry, it written above, and yet my eyes failed to read it :-( |
| 15:04.20 | VIad | brb :( |
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| 15:09.35 | VIad | expected random reboot |
| 15:10.03 | Unkle | NO ONE EXPECTS THE RANDOM REBOOT! |
| 15:10.17 | VIad | damn you key mapping! |
| 15:10.23 | VIad | why can't I map the useless "sleep" keyboard button |
| 15:10.30 | VIad | or the logitech buttons I never use :( |
| 15:10.40 | VIad | just wanna map them to the console key :P |
| 15:10.58 | VIad | hmm, right windows key |
| 15:11.09 | VIad | that one I can sacrifice :P |
| 15:11.39 | VIad | gotta relog again for changes to take effect |
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| 15:13.22 | VIad | so the US key for ` is #29, and when I use norwegian it STILL maps to #29 on the ascii table or keymap table |
| 15:13.23 | VIad | why_ |
| 15:13.25 | VIad | ? |
| 15:14.15 | VIad | why does WoW care that my #29 key is | and not ~? |
| 15:15.32 | doub | keyboard internationalization is just a big mess |
| 15:15.41 | Semlar | because you're mapping to the character, not the button on the keyboard |
| 15:15.58 | VIad | even when I rebound it in the registry |
| 15:16.06 | VIad | thing is both "console key" maps to same index |
| 15:16.08 | VIad | :P |
| 15:16.14 | VIad | regardless what locale I set as the current one |
| 15:16.24 | doub | i once read that keyboards can advertise their layout in the low level protocol, but even localized european ones advertise enUS not to mess up with dumb OSes |
| 15:16.43 | VIad | I just wish that the console key was mapped to the key index |
| 15:16.45 | VIad | and not the character |
| 15:16.56 | VIad | to make ~ I need to hold down a modifier and it probably ruins the command |
| 15:17.15 | VIad | if that is the case make the console toggeable even trough modifiers I guess |
| 15:17.54 | doub | why bother? all devs are in the us with us keyboards and enUS windows |
| 15:18.23 | VIad | actually |
| 15:18.28 | VIad | console key works fine on Call of Duty games :P |
| 15:18.37 | VIad | so it can be done, just gotta map to button and not character I guess, hehe |
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| 15:59.48 | doub | VIad: the 11th return value of C_PetJournal.GetPetInfoByPetID doesn't seem to be the pet spell id |
| 16:00.03 | VIad | no it is supposed to be creatureID |
| 16:00.11 | karl_w_w | ohhhhh shitttt |
| 16:00.16 | karl_w_w | tabard of flame on our bmah |
| 16:00.22 | VIad | in my example I was gonna compare creatureID's, but if you can get spellID too it can work :) |
| 16:01.00 | doub | ok, I see |
| 16:01.31 | VIad | look up the API on http://www.wowpedia.org/World_of_Warcraft_API or http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api_categories |
| 16:01.37 | VIad | helps know what the API return |
| 16:01.42 | doub | do you know if the battle pet id is persistent ? |
| 16:01.46 | doub | i'll check the doc |
| 16:01.51 | VIad | the petID is constant |
| 16:01.56 | VIad | unique assigned each pet |
| 16:02.30 | doub | i can save that in the saved data, and it won't change if the player gets other pets or level that one? |
| 16:03.15 | VIad | not sure how it goes if you cage a pet and trade someone, if it keeps the petID or generates a new one |
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| 16:04.01 | VIad | you can check if a petID is valid or not by checking if the GetPetInfoByID API think for the Pet Journal, returns nil or actual values |
| 16:05.25 | doub | not all pets can be caged? what's the condition? |
| 16:06.12 | doub | the guid changed after caging/uncaging one |
| 16:06.23 | VIad | you can cage all wild pets that you capture |
| 16:06.35 | VIad | and some others but there are exceptions and such |
| 16:06.46 | VIad | you can't really track changing GUID tough :P |
| 16:06.58 | VIad | better have a system to clear those bogous GUIDs |
| 16:07.09 | VIad | petIDs = GUIDs :P |
| 16:07.14 | VIad | at least for you I reckon |
| 16:07.19 | VIad | nvm me |
| 16:07.41 | doub | i've read guid somewhere in the doc, let's keep petID |
| 16:07.52 | VIad | guid is another thing |
| 16:07.53 | doub | it seems i can only cage level 1 pets :-s |
| 16:07.55 | VIad | don't mind that :P |
| 16:09.37 | kd3 | eek; http://imgur.com/a/CnXGL |
| 16:16.31 | VIad | looks like somone farted |
| 16:19.25 | Unkle | Reminds me of 1980s Los Angeles. |
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| 16:37.47 | doub_ | now that i've identified my pet, is there a new function replacing CallCompanion to invoke it? |
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| 16:39.31 | nebula169 | probably something in C_PetJournal |
| 16:42.09 | doub_ | yeah, i see something called C_PetJournal.SummonPetByGUID |
| 16:42.36 | doub_ | yep, that works |
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| 17:04.13 | Adys | http://www.reddit.com/r/FoodPorn/comments/1cs50w/fried_macaroni_cheese_balls_500x383/ |
| 17:04.50 | nevcairiel | so you like your balls fried? |
| 17:05.52 | Adys | didnt you notice i like food porn? |
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| 17:16.03 | Unkle | The internet is for (food) porn. |
| 17:17.19 | kd3 | huh, so they're finally rolling out the new $100 note |
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| 17:30.02 | zenzelezz | which one is that, F#? |
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| 17:38.37 | doub_ | anyone know where the minibar icons (skills, talents, quests, achievements, etc.) are in the interface data? |
| 17:41.18 | Dagmar | kd3: Does it have any cool laser messages in it? |
| 17:41.31 | AcidWeb | doub_: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/artbrowser/Interface/BUTTONS.list |
| 17:41.44 | Semlar | they are under buttons |
| 17:41.55 | kd3 | http://www.newmoney.gov/uscurrency/100.htm |
| 17:41.56 | Semlar | https://github.com/Ketho/wow-ui-source/blob/ptr/FrameXML/MainMenuBarMicroButtons.xml this has all their paths |
| 17:42.31 | Dagmar | Damn I think Ben is putting on a few pounts |
| 17:42.33 | Dagmar | er pounds |
| 17:43.17 | Dagmar | What they should really do for luls is make hte money change color to purple when it comes into contact with cocaine. |
| 17:43.26 | kd3 | lol |
| 17:44.20 | Semlar | ben is all like :| |
| 17:44.39 | Semlar | "you finish that portrait yet?" |
| 17:45.22 | Dagmar | I guess things are looking up tho. We're up to four whole colors on that bill. |
| 17:45.37 | Semlar | monopoly money |
| 17:46.09 | Dagmar | I hear you can take a Canadian $100, shine a laser through it, and it projects a hologram of their Prime Minister waving at you. |
| 17:46.32 | Semlar | that's some star trek shit right there |
| 17:46.40 | Dagmar | It's really impressive. |
| 17:47.07 | Semlar | that's how you know we're living in the space age |
| 17:47.09 | kd3 | let's ask our resident canucks (where's cairenn?) |
| 17:47.13 | kd3 | ackis, ressy? ^ |
| 17:47.29 | Semlar | what you think people just go around shooting lasers into hundred dollar bills? |
| 17:47.33 | Dagmar | I'm just disappointed that the fancy in our paper currency seems to go about as far as "it might have some glitter on it" and no farther. |
| 17:48.01 | Dagmar | I have a collection of currency that found it's way into my possession. US money is fucking boring. |
| 17:48.29 | Semlar | http://wowprogramming.com/BlizzArt/Interface/BUTTONS/UI-MicroButton-Bug-Up.png bug |
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| 18:08.49 | TC-work | https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/603635_4952724379246_465427546_n.jpg |
| 18:10.08 | zenzelezz | hehe |
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| 18:37.46 | karl_w_w | "Boston-related domain name registrations started exploding in the hours after the bombing was announced" |
| 18:37.50 | karl_w_w | budum-tiss |
| 18:38.45 | TC-work | ~lart karl_w_w |
| 18:38.45 | purl | puts karl_w_w through a wood chipper |
| 18:39.10 | karl_w_w | i didnt write it |
| 18:39.22 | TC-work | No, but you reposted it. |
| 18:40.09 | Lopeppeppy | Very Fargo there, eh? |
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| 18:53.28 | bleeter | karl_w_w: Lest We Forget |
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| 19:26.27 | durcyn | anyone know if these effing secondary power errors in the default unitframes fixed in 5.3? |
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| 21:06.25 | TC-work | For all of you people wanting fable 3 on steam, it's on sale. |
| 21:12.59 | Dagmar | I vaguely remember that one reminding me how easy it is to bypass Windows Live |
| 21:21.07 | Dagmar | >.< |
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| 21:26.13 | karl_w_w | sure, why say "it's still dark there" when you can say "darkness is still very much in place there"? |
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| 21:44.33 | Primer | sigh...I played wow on my laptop the other day now many of my macros reverted |
| 21:44.38 | Primer | some are just gone |
| 21:45.49 | Primer | Why even have local storage for macros if the server's going to overwrite them? |
| 21:46.09 | bleeter | TC-work: pity no Linux port :( |
| 21:46.39 | TC-work | bleeter: I dunno, it doesn't bother me..... |
| 21:46.44 | Unkle | because you can toggle that off Primer and use local macros. :P |
| 21:47.12 | Primer | Unkle: So perhaps my laptop has that toggled off? But then why would those macros replace what's on the server? |
| 21:47.45 | bleeter | Why use macros at all if one never backs them up? |
| 21:48.28 | Primer | but I do back them...I'm bitching because now I have to restore them |
| 21:48.29 | bleeter | s/use/rely on/ |
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| 21:51.48 | Primer | Not sure how old my backup is though |
| 21:53.23 | Unkle | Primer: http://www.wowpedia.org/CVar_synchronizeSettings |
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| 21:54.04 | Unkle | If you don't turn it off in each client, it uploads it's settings (Binsings, Config, Macros) to the server. |
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| 22:05.04 | Primer | Unkle: thanks |
| 22:09.19 | Unkle | MentalPower: Your linkee no workee. |
| 22:09.29 | MentalPower | oh? |
| 22:09.34 | MentalPower | it workee for me |
| 22:09.54 | Unkle | You do not have access to perform that action |
| 22:09.56 | MentalPower | http://www.curse.com/open-positions/junior-system-administrator |
| 22:10.46 | Primer | Forbidden |
| 22:10.48 | Unkle | Interesting that in IE I get redirected to a login page, but in Chrome... I just error. |
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| 22:11.01 | Primer | in FF I get Forbidden |
| 22:11.06 | MentalPower | fun... |
| 22:11.23 | Unkle | And even funnier... in Chrome I already have a valid login cookie. |
| 22:11.55 | Unkle | So, permissions on that file or directory are broken. :) |
| 22:12.20 | MentalPower | http://o7.no/YSa7UW |
| 22:12.22 | bleeter | MentalPower: It's telling me I have to log in |
| 22:12.32 | MentalPower | screenshot while I get the right people to fix it |
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| 22:14.10 | Unkle | tweeted it to you. |
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| 22:55.40 | doub_ | i'm calling GetItemInfo when receiving PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD, but it returns nil (for a valid item id) the first time i login after entering the game |
| 22:55.56 | doub_ | if i call /reload ui, or disconnect and reconnect, there is no problem |
| 22:56.14 | doub_ | is there another event that i can wait for that will tell me that GetItemInfo is ready to be used? |
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