| 00:02.00 | nevcairiel | turning off stuff like SSAO and dialing down shadows can help |
| 00:02.08 | nevcairiel | but it can also be caused by addons |
| 00:02.23 | tzarc | I've had certain addons trigger massive framerate drops but only on certain encounters |
| 00:02.43 | tzarc | random trash packs will drop from 70->5 fps, then as soon as they die it's back to 70 |
| 00:03.01 | Neffi | His CPU usage isn't capping a core |
| 00:03.02 | tzarc | I keep meaning to run cpu profiling to see what it is, but it's unpredictable |
| 00:03.03 | Neffi | Ever |
| 00:03.08 | Neffi | He's got a 2600K at 5 GHz |
| 00:03.15 | nevcairiel | windows doesnt exactly tell you when one core is capped |
| 00:03.23 | Neffi | He's using CPU-Z and GPU-Z |
| 00:03.33 | nevcairiel | same thing |
| 00:03.34 | tzarc | I've got a 3930K at 4.8GHz and it still happens |
| 00:03.41 | Neffi | GPU-Z is claiming 100% GPU usage when FPS drops |
| 00:03.58 | tzarc | certain spell effects probably trigger it |
| 00:04.19 | bleeter | certain spell effects at a certain angle with combo of other foo going on |
| 00:04.22 | tzarc | previously it has been things like shockwave effects on the ground |
| 00:04.39 | Neffi | Yeah, if GPU is capping at 100%, then I don't think the FPS problem is at the CPU |
| 00:05.08 | Neffi | I'll await a response from him to figure this out. I don't see 20 FPS being reasonable. |
| 00:05.09 | bleeter | I'd still look at turning off all addons and see what happens |
| 00:05.35 | bleeter | would be the 'easiest' test, 'cept most players can't w/o addons |
| 00:06.00 | nevcairiel | depending how the engine is setup, it could show 100% and still have waiting times on addons |
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| 01:51.13 | Thunder_Child | I have so much rage from driving home I want to punch a baby |
| 01:53.30 | Ackis | does blizzard have a report an idiot function for LFR? |
| 01:53.31 | Cairenn|afk | unh oh |
| 01:57.11 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: The servers can't handle 5 million names |
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| 02:14.34 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:20.09 | foxlit | Proofread it for me, internet? |
| 02:20.13 | Ackis | so when you /camp inside a lfr you get auto kicked eh? |
| 02:21.10 | Dagmar | Think what happens if that doesn't happen |
| 02:22.12 | Ackis | You wait a few minutes and vote kick that person |
| 02:27.08 | Dagmar | Afaik, unless they were kicked, they'd still be in the instance |
| 02:27.21 | Dagmar | ...but not saved to it. |
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| 02:28.28 | Dagmar | I *suspect* it probably leads to someone being able to become group leader in an LFR-level instance, and be able to invite 24 more punters |
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| 02:32.38 | Dagmar | On the one hand, Gnomoria is irksomely incomplete. |
| 02:32.49 | Dagmar | On the other, why the fuck won't Toady One add a goddamn gui |
| 02:38.54 | Iriel | Dagmar: After a couple of hours you imagine the GUI amongst the characters and it's all good. |
| 02:43.32 | Dagmar | Iriel: No, after a couple of hours I'm mainly wondering why he's still refusing to accept that we can do more than just cell sprites now |
| 02:44.16 | Iriel | I suspect it's that he doesn't want to 'lose control' of his game, but also doesn't have the time (or possibly experience) to build the appropriate API to support a 3rd party GUI. |
| 02:44.36 | Dagmar | He should partner up with the Gnomoria guy |
| 02:44.53 | Dagmar | I understand DF has been around since before a graphical interface was really feasible |
| 02:45.13 | Dagmar | Now we've got PCs that can manage 10,000 tiles without breaking a sweat |
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| 02:51.09 | Dagmar | Seriously, DF with a Gnomoria interface would make vast sums of money |
| 02:51.28 | Dagmar | I would throw $60 at it without even thinking once |
| 02:53.16 | Iriel | You should mail toady with the suggestion, or post on the forum, he might answer. |
| 03:10.07 | pompy1 | Thunder_Child: LA traffic ftw? |
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| 03:33.26 | Thunder_Child | pompy1: Don't think I would put it quite like that, but yea. |
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| 03:44.16 | Thunder_Child | Cool, I can get 24 month finacing on a $20 item |
| 03:44.36 | Thunder_Child | financing* |
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| 03:50.35 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: Why is one of your subtext sections have a different color bar? |
| 03:51.26 | foxlit | The first two relate to causes of potential failure; the third is an example. |
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| 03:52.10 | Thunder_Child | And a stupid end user is going to understand this how? |
| 03:52.50 | Thunder_Child | well....that was redundant |
| 03:53.58 | foxlit | it's just decorative, so I don't think there's a particular need for anyone to understand the significance of bar colors. |
| 04:10.46 | pompy1 | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=592390440790958&set=a.133548883341785.20130.133409023355771&type=1 awesome |
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| 05:19.22 | ccox | I love how flying from stormwind to flamestar post takes you right past flamestar post, over to 2 other flight points, then back again. |
| 05:21.51 | Trela | Mounts have to land on the correct direction of the run way. Can not just blow those flight controllers off and land where you want! |
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| 05:39.49 | Ackis | Cairenn|afk: I disagree with that video you linked... no way in hell would I get her a glass of water :P |
| 05:46.15 | karl_w_w | bleeter: wanna find and take a fibre splicing course with me? :P |
| 06:02.22 | Adys | hehe |
| 06:02.30 | Adys | kd3: http://dpaste.com/1033029/ |
| 06:02.37 | Adys | it still needs work |
| 06:02.48 | Adys | (this is all autogenerated) |
| 06:03.12 | Adys | one issue i have is wow doesnt like Interface/ and Data/ being owned by root |
| 06:03.19 | Adys | even if i have rw perms on it |
| 06:03.24 | Adys | actually maybe it wants x |
| 06:05.23 | Adys | nope, it still doesnt like it :/ |
| 06:10.40 | bluworkcow | wot do? |
| 06:11.28 | Adys | it autogenerates wow's directory layout from a saner, packagable one |
| 06:12.14 | bluworkcow | ah |
| 06:13.07 | Adys | i dont know what to do about the owner req |
| 06:16.46 | Dagmar | *sigh* |
| 06:16.54 | Dagmar | Directories should always be x, man |
| 06:17.35 | Dagmar | find wowdir -type d -chmod ugo+x {} \; or something |
| 06:18.16 | Dagmar | You are almost never going to envounter a case where it would make sense to have a directory be non-exe |
| 06:19.23 | Adys | Dagmar: all dirs are +x |
| 06:19.31 | Adys | I meant the actual files |
| 06:19.41 | Adys | since it's ntfs it expects all the lua and shit to be +x |
| 06:19.52 | Dagmar | The files don't need to be executed by the OS. |
| 06:20.00 | Dagmar | They only need to be read. |
| 06:20.11 | Dagmar | The x bit on files only really applies to your shell |
| 06:20.42 | Dagmar | Just like any perl script will still run just fine 644 if you invoke it as perl scriptname.pl |
| 06:21.01 | Adys | yeah well |
| 06:21.07 | Adys | the game wants the user to own them |
| 06:21.17 | Adys | it doesnt like root:games |
| 06:21.31 | Dagmar | Ar eyou sure it' |
| 06:21.46 | Dagmar | Are you sure it's not getting upset trying to _write to the directory, itself_? |
| 06:21.50 | Dagmar | Damn I need a burger |
| 06:23.07 | Adys | Dagmar: What do you mean? |
| 06:24.40 | Dagmar | You probably need to set the directories for the Data files and all the game files to be sgid games |
| 06:24.46 | Dagmar | ...but if that's NTFS you're basically fucked. |
| 06:25.44 | Adys | it just says something like |
| 06:25.51 | Adys | "Failed to fix permissions for" ... bunch of lua files |
| 06:26.40 | Dagmar | What does? |
| 06:26.45 | Adys | the launcher |
| 06:26.55 | Adys | it tries to check all of the permissions for Interface/ and Data/ |
| 06:27.08 | Adys | if its owned by root (even if i have rwx to everything inside), it redownloads everything |
| 06:27.08 | Dagmar | Strace that fucker |
| 06:27.32 | Adys | strace on wine programs is basically useless |
| 06:28.27 | Dagmar | It's going to need read in the dir and to the files, x to the directory because the world didn't end, and write to the directory because of the savedvariables files, right? |
| 06:28.45 | Adys | savedvars are in ~/.config |
| 06:28.48 | Adys | so those arent an issue |
| 06:28.50 | Dagmar | It's reasonable to assume that it's expecting your lua files to be provaite, i.e., _owned by you_ |
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| 06:29.01 | Dagmar | s/provaite/private/ |
| 06:29.26 | Dagmar | I've been stuck in the house the last two days trying to starve a cold out |
| 06:29.37 | Dagmar | It's high fucking time I got myself a cheeseburger |
| 06:29.45 | Dagmar | All of this will make more sense in about ten minutes |
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| 06:50.06 | Dagmar | Bah copy the files it's carping about *into* your homedir and set it so that you own them all, make 'em 777. Run launcher, let it "fix" them, see what it pares them down to |
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| 07:27.12 | zenzelezz | "PHP is the language of "why not add this feature"." |
| 07:30.00 | bluworkcow | ohgodwhy |
| 07:33.37 | bluworkcow | sounds like a recipie for disaster |
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| 08:12.24 | karl_w_w | cooks up a fresh batch of disaster |
| 08:20.05 | bluworkcow | *eats it* |
| 08:20.10 | bluworkcow | *burps* |
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| 08:24.29 | karl_w_w | a bluworkcow burping itself causes a hurricane next door |
| 08:25.26 | tzarc | LFR makes me want to stab myself in the face :( |
| 08:26.06 | karl_w_w | well, don't do it |
| 08:26.35 | tzarc | sadly I can still get upgrades |
| 08:26.56 | tzarc | of course, that doesn't mean that I got any this week |
| 08:26.57 | tzarc | ugh |
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| 08:31.13 | bleeter | karl_w_w: heh, it's getting that way. though a mate of mine is apparently now a senior engineer for NBNCo here in Tassie so I might try that angle first ;) |
| 08:32.32 | bleeter | karl_w_w: hooked up someone in South Hobart yesterday. He was all shitty about not getting 100mbps 'til I explained his shitty hardware wouldn't do jumbo frames and a buncha other stuff |
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| 09:45.12 | zenzelezz | if you're going to pay to have your ad placed on Youtube, how about making sure you're not using a mic that's picking up more wind than voice |
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| 09:58.30 | bluworkcow | kk bai bais |
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| 10:29.23 | Adys | cbreak: any reason this doesnt work? |
| 10:29.24 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/1033208/ |
| 10:30.34 | cbreak | is the file called? |
| 10:30.39 | Adys | ya |
| 10:30.49 | Adys | it makes my computer hang |
| 10:31.12 | cbreak | that's... not good. |
| 10:31.21 | cbreak | does your compile thing use stdin or stdout? |
| 10:31.54 | Adys | er |
| 10:32.03 | cbreak | (would be interesting to see where it hangs too) |
| 10:32.09 | Adys | it just uses cp and cat |
| 10:32.16 | Adys | its all in there |
| 10:33.11 | cbreak | I'd add logging to a file or similar to see where it hangs. |
| 10:34.07 | Adys | cbreak: huh.. it's called over and over |
| 10:34.25 | Adys | oh |
| 10:34.28 | Adys | I'm an idiot :p |
| 10:34.32 | Adys | it calls itself |
| 10:34.36 | cbreak | you called it ssh? |
| 10:34.41 | Adys | ya |
| 10:34.46 | cbreak | :) |
| 10:34.55 | Adys | there we go, much better |
| 10:36.22 | Adys | cbreak: odd, git seems to be acting up |
| 10:36.42 | Adys | cbreak: it recognizes the hostname kl but it asks me for a password |
| 10:36.53 | Adys | when just "ssh kl" logs into it fine with ~/.ssh/id_rsa |
| 10:42.41 | cbreak | wonder if it even tries the key |
| 10:43.02 | cbreak | it should tell you if you use ssh -v I guess |
| 10:44.49 | Adys | debug3: Could not load "/home/adys/.ssh/id_rsa" as a RSA1 public key |
| 10:44.50 | Adys | huh? |
| 10:46.04 | Adys | wait thats not it |
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| 10:53.52 | Adys | cbreak: this makes little sense |
| 10:53.53 | Adys | sec |
| 10:55.28 | Adys | cbreak: http://dpaste.com/1033228/ |
| 10:55.35 | Adys | -vvv, trimmed to where it differs |
| 10:56.54 | Fisker | how do you triple verbose? |
| 10:57.32 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/1033229/ sorry |
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| 11:08.25 | cbreak | looks like it sends the key |
| 11:08.58 | cbreak | but the server doesn't accept it |
| 11:09.06 | cbreak | is there something in the server logs? |
| 11:10.44 | Adys_ | ah |
| 11:10.48 | Adys_ | i think i know what it might be :) |
| 11:10.53 | Adys | thanks |
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| 11:22.23 | cbreak | what was it? :) |
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| 13:15.27 | Adys | cbreak: server issues |
| 13:15.31 | Adys | per-user permissions |
| 13:16.00 | cbreak | it used a different user? |
| 13:18.55 | Adys | cbreak: yeah, i completely forgot about it |
| 13:19.03 | Adys | the origin branch uses git@ |
| 13:19.45 | cbreak | interesting :) |
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| 13:56.51 | Adys | Arrowmaster: ping |
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| 14:12.33 | Arrowmaster | what |
| 14:12.49 | Arrowmaster | Adys: what |
| 14:14.25 | Adys | Arrowmaster: i have a fresh debian squeeze install here |
| 14:14.31 | Adys | but its shipping with postgres 8.4 |
| 14:14.38 | Adys | what do i need to enable to get 9.x? |
| 14:15.09 | nevcairiel | use a more recent distribution |
| 14:15.21 | Arrowmaster | you need to use backports |
| 14:15.41 | Adys | i added this to sources.list |
| 14:15.42 | Adys | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main |
| 14:15.46 | Adys | but it didnt change anything |
| 14:15.48 | Arrowmaster | http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 14:15.59 | Funkeh` | are there any EU (awake) wowi admins |
| 14:16.09 | Arrowmaster | Adys: ok now run aptitude update |
| 14:16.45 | Arrowmaster | Adys: then aptitude -t squeeze-backports install "postgresql" |
| 14:17.41 | Arrowmaster | tell me if that seems to work or not |
| 14:18.04 | Adys | yup |
| 14:18.05 | Adys | thanks |
| 14:19.03 | Arrowmaster | yeah with backports you have to manually install the package from backports the first time, then it will update it with everything else if theres an update to it |
| 14:26.33 | bluspacecow | http://tenchi.wikia.com/wiki/Tenchi_Muyo!_Ryo-Ohki |
| 14:26.59 | bluspacecow | just watching the last DVD now : |
| 14:27.00 | bluspacecow | http://www.fatso.co.nz/Movies/Tenchi_Muyo_-_OVA_Ultimate_Collection/3404 |
| 14:27.59 | bluspacecow | Might have to watch the other 3 again given the large gap between episodes 13 and 14 its worth it (8 year real time gap between them) |
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| 15:58.36 | Arrowmaster | fuck theres some discoloration on one corner of my nexus7s screen |
| 15:59.21 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 15:59.35 | bluspacecow | dead pixel ? not enough voltage ? |
| 16:00.48 | karl_w_w | are em ay? |
| 16:04.01 | Arrowmaster | no clue its just kinda yellowish in that corner |
| 16:05.19 | haste | burn in? |
| 16:05.35 | haste | my htc desire has the recovery screen burned into it :P |
| 16:05.53 | haste | gives a faint yellow discoloration when I look at white pages |
| 16:07.25 | karl_w_w | burn in on an lcd? man that must have been on there for ages |
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| 16:23.50 | Arrowmaster | rebooted the nexus7 and it was on the boot logo forever |
| 16:23.58 | Arrowmaster | but its up now but i still see the discoloration |
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| 17:13.39 | karl_w_w | haha i didn't know that, if you do the well of eternity dungeon with warglaives equipped illildan whispers "you seem prepared" |
| 17:19.58 | g0urra | anyone who can translate this? https://twitter.com/WowpediaES/status/315491490719727616 |
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| 17:22.29 | Thunder_Child | g0urra: the google translate is amusing |
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| 17:27.55 | karl_w_w | "The day that Blizzard confirms to Wowpedia as its official wiki will have to pay 1 for every tweet you make mwahaha" |
| 17:28.38 | karl_w_w | "The day Blizzard confirms to Wowpedia as their official wiki will have to pay 1 for every tweet we do mwahaha" |
| 17:28.45 | karl_w_w | first is babelfish, second google |
| 17:29.20 | g0urra | that's ridicilous |
| 17:30.44 | karl_w_w | i don't see why anyone would have to pay for tweets because of anything |
| 17:31.04 | karl_w_w | it makes no sense and I don't think the translation is to blame for that |
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| 18:06.40 | Nimhfree | has anyone else experienced a change in the validity of the title returned by GetAchievementInfo()? Basically, in addon W's ADDON_LOADED, it causes addon G to be loaded, calling GetAchievementInfo() which is returning nil for the title. With a UI reload, the title returns properly. |
| 18:07.21 | Nimhfree | Does anyone know at what point during login GetAchievementInfo() will be valid for its title? |
| 18:15.59 | Nimhfree | I just checked in ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA and of course it is valid at that point |
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| 18:19.59 | Nimhfree | and it seems to be valid in QUEST_LOG_UPDATE |
| 18:20.12 | karl_w_w | probably player_entering_world |
| 18:20.23 | Nimhfree | I may just to the work in there since PLAYER_ALIVE does not get called when reloading the UI |
| 18:25.18 | zenzelezz | probably has been posted before, but... http://jefferai.org/2013/03/24/too-perfect-a-mirror/ - interesting KDE/git event |
| 18:34.33 | karl_w_w | hah, they nearly broke kde! |
| 18:34.51 | Nimhfree | they nearly LOST KDE! |
| 18:35.15 | Adys | Arrowmaster: http://packages.debian.org/sid/ruby-sass what do I do to get this on squeeze? :P |
| 18:35.26 | Adys | man |
| 18:35.38 | Adys | I'm ssh'd into a debian box for 3 minutes and I already miss arch |
| 18:36.08 | Ackis | Fisker: would you buy Company of Heros 2 Deluxe edition via steam or origin? |
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| 18:45.47 | Arrowmaster | Adys: you could attempt to backport it |
| 18:46.02 | Adys | fuck that |
| 18:46.25 | Arrowmaster | Adys: the problem is that you are on squeeze, its a lot easier to get the latest stuff on wheezy |
| 18:47.07 | Arrowmaster | Adys: did you just get a PM on irc from a bot |
| 18:47.11 | Adys | yea |
| 18:47.33 | Arrowmaster | you can try that which is called a 'simple sid backport' |
| 18:49.02 | Arrowmaster | it looks like the dependencies will be met to do that |
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| 18:54.58 | Fisker | Steam or death Ackis |
| 18:55.06 | jnwhiteh | steam |
| 18:55.08 | jnwhiteh | that's what I choose. |
| 18:55.13 | Fisker | man Adys |
| 18:55.15 | Fisker | debian |
| 18:55.18 | Ackis | Fisker: origin comes with something exclusive apparently |
| 18:55.22 | Maldivia | who would willingly choose origin |
| 18:55.26 | Fisker | yeah it comes with cancer |
| 18:55.30 | Fisker | exclusively |
| 18:55.32 | jnwhiteh | I want SimCity 5 |
| 18:55.40 | jnwhiteh | it looks like its fun |
| 18:55.50 | jnwhiteh | but maybe I should just play SC4 |
| 18:56.14 | Fisker | so basically Ackis |
| 18:56.17 | Fisker | the exclusive is a camo |
| 18:56.55 | Fisker | Steam comes with 2 exclusives right there |
| 18:56.55 | jnwhiteh | ah, SC4 is rosetta-only |
| 18:56.58 | jnwhiteh | so I'll wait |
| 18:57.01 | Fisker | actually |
| 18:57.06 | Fisker | it's the same as on origin |
| 18:57.07 | Fisker | but then |
| 18:57.08 | Fisker | tf2 items |
| 18:57.17 | Fisker | plus games and shit |
| 18:57.43 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh: bur you have to be always online with SC5, so they can "offload" all those "heavy" calculations to their servers :P |
| 18:57.57 | Ackis | Fisker: no |
| 18:57.57 | jnwhiteh | yeah, so much stupid around |
| 18:58.00 | jnwhiteh | but I put up with a lot |
| 18:58.04 | jnwhiteh | and I think I'd enjoy it |
| 18:58.28 | Ackis | Fisker: ORIGIN EXCLUSIVE RUSSIAN BRYANSK FRONT HEAVY-WEIGHT VEHICLE PATTERN PRE-ORDER ONLY |
| 18:58.35 | Fisker | yes |
| 18:58.42 | Fisker | enjoy your texture |
| 18:58.53 | Thunder_Child | I'm willing to deal with origin to play SC5, it's fun |
| 18:59.20 | Ackis | Thunder_Child: my city seems to get to 100kish people and then shits on itself |
| 19:01.01 | Ackis | I wished I pre-ordered SimCity on Origin, I would've got a cool park |
| 19:01.06 | Thunder_Child | My original city doesn't get that high since I picked a split level location and it sucks. |
| 19:01.20 | Thunder_Child | I had no self control, so I did preorder it |
| 19:03.21 | Ackis | is the park worthwhile? |
| 19:03.28 | Ackis | plumbob park or something? |
| 19:04.31 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 19:04.33 | Thunder_Child | No Idea, I just place random things to make people happy |
| 19:10.20 | Ackis | Shirik |
| 19:11.25 | Ackis | I know we have a lot of cell phone buffs... anyone here have an older andriod they'd be willing to sell? My wife lost hers and we need to get a replacement |
| 19:26.45 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: does it need to be sim enabled? |
| 19:26.59 | Ackis | yeah I think so |
| 19:27.48 | Thunder_Child | Can't help then, only old android is verizon |
| 19:28.21 | Thunder_Child | That and I just took a look at the battery.....it has gone from a rectangle to an oval...this can't be good. |
| 19:28.54 | Ackis | hehe |
| 19:58.33 | bleeter | http://blog.ffwll.ch/2013/03/overclocking-your-intel-gpu-on-linux.html |
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| 20:12.02 | Stanzilla | is it me or is wowhead/wowi super slow atmß |
| 20:13.35 | End_ | wowinterface seems fine to me |
| 20:13.41 | End_ | as does wowhead |
| 20:14.26 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 20:27.17 | Ackis | hey does anyone have an origin 20% off code they won't use? |
| 20:33.15 | Dagmar | Does it count if we wouldn't use it if we had one? |
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| 22:15.25 | Ackis | Seerah: my wife and I both enjoyed the picture you shared with me on facebook :) |
| 22:15.44 | Seerah | thought you might! :D |
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| 23:00.35 | Ackis | lulz I just waited 2 hours in a queue for a coupon that saved me $2.70 |
| 23:08.23 | Thunder_Child | Time well spent I am sure, Ackis |