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| 00:19.48 | smcn | woo finally finagled weakauras to show remaining dot ticks |
| 00:30.42 | tzarc | now there's something I could use |
| 00:35.15 | smcn | only for sw:p and vt, i can put import strings on pastebin after raid |
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| 01:43.52 | smcn | tzarc: sw:p http://pastebin.com/mdGSRkxw vt: http://pastebin.com/8iQ699Ma kind of wonky on garalon i guess his legs & body share a guid |
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| 01:46.29 | tzarc | cheers, I'll have a look |
| 01:46.35 | smcn | and blade lord when he vanishes (dot ticks don't show in combat log) |
| 01:46.54 | smcn | and probably some other weird edge cases... but besides that it's perfect ;P |
| 01:47.31 | tzarc | I had contemplated writing up an addon that allowed me to essentially query the remaining ticks and then just use it with a weakauras custom trigger etc. |
| 01:47.48 | tzarc | ended up doing that in order to get the relative dot power out of AffDots |
| 01:51.07 | smcn | bbs |
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| 02:01.58 | tzarc | hmmm, apparently nobody has seen Alleria or Turalyon in years. |
| 02:02.02 | tzarc | great tip there. |
| 02:03.58 | Semlar | how do you know how often a dot ticks or is it specific to each spell |
| 02:04.51 | tzarc | specific to each spell, and based on how much haste you had at time of cast |
| 02:05.29 | tzarc | haste drops the duration up until a certain point where it can fit another dot tick in |
| 02:05.40 | Semlar | do any change how often they tick during the same application |
| 02:05.49 | tzarc | based on haste, yes |
| 02:05.53 | tzarc | http://www.totemspot.com/vb/entry.php?b=44 |
| 02:06.10 | tzarc | shows when the respective tick counts change for dps |
| 02:07.58 | Semlar | sorry, does it only take your haste into account when you cast it or does it actually change with your haste after it's been applied |
| 02:08.06 | tzarc | when cast |
| 02:08.29 | Semlar | once it has been cast every tick will be the same amount of time apart? |
| 02:08.35 | tzarc | pretty much |
| 02:09.07 | Semlar | so i could watch the combat log and figure out the timing for every spell so i don't have to hard code that |
| 02:09.21 | Semlar | should only take 2 ticks |
| 02:09.41 | tzarc | well yes, but if you reapply while it's on the target, your timing will be skewed |
| 02:10.05 | Semlar | doesn't matter |
| 02:10.25 | Semlar | you could get the base time using their haste at the time of application |
| 02:11.15 | tzarc | *nod* and then you'd need to calculate the number of ticks and divide evenly |
| 02:11.19 | Semlar | if you have their haste and the time between the first two ticks you can figure out what it would be without any haste |
| 02:11.40 | Semlar | and then you could cache that for each unique spell |
| 02:11.59 | tzarc | but again, procs, bloodlust, etc. all change haste values |
| 02:12.26 | tzarc | so you'd have to wipe info whenever you get a SPELL_AURA_APPLIED |
| 02:12.29 | tzarc | and recalculate |
| 02:12.37 | Semlar | i was just thinking about instead of showing when an aura would expire i could just display when its final tick would be |
| 02:13.00 | tzarc | *nod* |
| 02:13.10 | Semlar | i guess it would be more useful |
| 02:13.12 | tzarc | should be feasible for that |
| 02:13.56 | tzarc | you'd still need to calculate tick counts for each respective spell, based on base count and haste upon application, for whichever targets the aura is on |
| 02:14.00 | Semlar | i have an addon that puts cooldown text on the action buttons and it also displays the time left on debuffs and stuff |
| 02:15.33 | Semlar | i guess the problem would be with things that modify the base time between ticks |
| 02:15.46 | tzarc | can be calculated with a formula |
| 02:15.48 | Semlar | is that what these set bonuses do? |
| 02:15.59 | tzarc | depends on the bonuse |
| 02:16.04 | tzarc | there are tons of different effects |
| 02:16.25 | tzarc | perhaps it'd be simpler to query aura time remaining and just look at time between ticks |
| 02:16.58 | tzarc | assuming you're looking at the combat log you should be able to pick it up for each target without too much issue |
| 02:17.03 | Semlar | right |
| 02:17.45 | Semlar | wouldn't need to risk the cache being wrong if it just calculated it on the fly |
| 02:17.49 | tzarc | at least that's independent of buffs and whatnot, and assuming you can query haste at time of application, you should be able to extrapolate |
| 02:18.03 | tzarc | well you still need to know total tick count, which is going to be haste based |
| 02:18.32 | Semlar | wouldn't even need the haste at that point |
| 02:18.51 | Semlar | if i'm just looking at the time between the first tick i could figure out when the last one is |
| 02:19.15 | tzarc | nope, you need to know when new ticks are added |
| 02:19.18 | Semlar | it wouldn't exactly be light weight |
| 02:19.31 | Semlar | but that isn't a very big deal with that addon |
| 02:19.31 | tzarc | actually |
| 02:19.34 | tzarc | hmmm |
| 02:19.42 | tzarc | yeah you're right |
| 02:19.47 | tzarc | time between ticks will always decrease |
| 02:19.56 | tzarc | extrapolate time until you hit the base aura length |
| 02:20.00 | tzarc | you get tick count |
| 02:20.41 | Semlar | is the time between application and first tick the same as the time between ticks |
| 02:20.48 | tzarc | yup |
| 02:21.18 | tzarc | at least it was last time I read up on that stuff |
| 02:21.21 | Semlar | and when it gets refreshed it recalculates the time between ticks based on your current haste |
| 02:21.24 | tzarc | don't see why they'd change it |
| 02:21.44 | tzarc | you'd need to cache for multitarget and key by guid most likely |
| 02:22.15 | Semlar | yeah i've had to deal with that before |
| 02:22.26 | tzarc | fair enoug |
| 02:22.27 | tzarc | h |
| 02:22.57 | Semlar | i made an addon that showed everything you were in combat with once |
| 02:23.26 | Semlar | or at least as close as you're ever going to get |
| 02:24.35 | Semlar | it dropped things off the list if they died or after a certain period of inactivity |
| 02:24.42 | tzarc | *nod* |
| 02:26.17 | Semlar | the only downside to not caching the base time for each spell would be i'd have to wait until the first tick to get the last one |
| 02:26.53 | tzarc | wouldn't matter too much, if you were only interested in last tick it'd be fine |
| 02:27.29 | Semlar | i don't think it would be a big deal |
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| 02:48.05 | smcn | tzarc: just realized a silly mistake in the untrigger for those tick counters |
| 02:49.15 | tzarc | lucky for you I haven't looked at it yet ;) |
| 02:52.05 | smcn | it was untriggering when a dot ended even if it wasn't your target, prob what was happening on garalon |
| 02:52.46 | tzarc | fair enough |
| 02:54.04 | tzarc | man, finally learning the hard way not to return tables from lua functions if you're running in OnUpdate |
| 02:57.27 | smcn | http://pastebin.com/u/smcn |
| 02:58.44 | tzarc | yeah it's things like those where I just code it myself, lol |
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| 03:03.34 | smcn | yeah i didn't know if there were any dot timer mods that could just show the remaining ticks and was too lazy to install one by one and find out :P |
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| 04:07.30 | tzarc | oh how I wish lua had pointers |
| 04:07.45 | Iriel | tzarc: lua doesn't NOT have pointers. |
| 04:07.53 | Iriel | tzarc: i.e. everything that isn't a value is by reference |
| 04:08.14 | tzarc | yes yes I know, I'm more moaning that they don't act like C/C++ |
| 04:08.28 | Iriel | What are you trying to do ? |
| 04:09.25 | tzarc | just iterating tables, would just simplify the look more than anything if I could use pointers like C |
| 04:09.49 | tzarc | perhaps I should have another look at how said tables are stored considering the stupid complexity they've evolved into |
| 04:10.34 | Iriel | Depending on whether you're optimizing for structure or speed, either next or a simple index variable would generally be ridiculously easy to use. |
| 04:11.47 | tzarc | oh I know, and it's what I'm doing now, the annoyance is more that I have nested structures, the further inside the nesting the uglier it gets |
| 04:12.11 | tzarc | which is why I'm leaning toward going back and seeing if I can restructure for simplicity |
| 04:12.59 | Iriel | I frequently try and use a local variable to reference the 'currently interesting table' in complex structures |
| 04:13.09 | tzarc | *nod* |
| 04:13.20 | tzarc | I'm sure it's where this will end up too |
| 04:14.42 | tzarc | main problem I was having was because I was returning tables when querying info, so memory usage creeping up without a gc run |
| 04:15.21 | tzarc | not problem, rather silly idea |
| 04:15.32 | Iriel | Depending on how much control you have of your object lifetimes, re-using a small pool of tables can provide SIGNIFICANT performance improvements without sacrificing flexibility |
| 04:16.12 | Iriel | (and wow includes table.wipe, which might end up useful there - you'd need to benchmark it) |
| 04:16.15 | tzarc | *nod* |
| 04:16.35 | Iriel | though if you're using the same keys repeatedly it's cleaner just to overwrite everything |
| 04:17.07 | tzarc | tbh it's likely I'm just going to cache specific keys into locals while looping, and not copy any tables at all |
| 04:17.27 | Iriel | if you're working with large numbers of "tuple" style values, functions with captive upvalues can be faster than arrays, though the code is a bit more bizarre. |
| 04:18.35 | tzarc | it's really not enough data that I'm iterating over to do anything that exotic |
| 04:19.07 | tzarc | just more managing lifetimes is doing my head in, too used to C-style scoping |
| 04:19.17 | Iriel | If you have a small number of fixed keys then arrays are your friends too, of course |
| 04:19.46 | Iriel | You can even do N objects by sticking A1 B1 C1 A2 B2 C2 A3 B3 C3 into the array |
| 04:20.03 | Iriel | If the values are simple that can be nice because you dont even have to clean up |
| 04:20.10 | Iriel | just remember how far you got this time, and ignore anything after it |
| 04:20.18 | Iriel | your array grows to the high water mark and sits there |
| 04:20.36 | Iriel | (you'd need to manually reset it if you really care about that and have massive spikes in usage) |
| 04:21.03 | tzarc | well it's currently 3-deep nested arrays, with immutable data |
| 04:21.08 | tzarc | so it's not going to be an issue for growth - iterating through it was where I was "leaking" |
| 04:22.56 | tzarc | so it's not really a question of storage or caching or whatnot, it's more just don't do stupid shit while going thru it ;) |
| 04:23.12 | Iriel | That's a rule to live by no matter what you're doing 8-) |
| 04:23.15 | tzarc | :P |
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| 04:58.23 | tzarc | I really wish wow would reload toc files >_< |
| 04:59.43 | smcn | yeah |
| 04:59.47 | Xuerian | So long as you're not adding files, just use xml files. 0_o |
| 04:59.57 | tzarc | I was adding files :P |
| 05:00.05 | Xuerian | Separate issue then :p |
| 05:00.08 | tzarc | indeed |
| 05:00.21 | tzarc | still, 'twould be nice to be able to redo it without a client restart |
| 05:03.41 | tzarc | now the trick with writing raiding addons, is getting everyone in your raid group to actually install the fucken thing.. ugh |
| 05:04.19 | tzarc | puts on his hat of +10 persuasion and posts on guild forums |
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| 07:03.51 | Shirik | I need a name that starts with "N" that is not Nancy, Nathaniel, Nate, Nick, or Neil |
| 07:03.55 | Shirik | any takers? |
| 07:04.56 | Thunder_Child | Nathan? |
| 07:05.02 | Torhal | lulz |
| 07:05.26 | Torhal | Nigel. Nimo. Nyarlathotep! |
| 07:05.28 | Cairenn | Norma |
| 07:05.45 | Shirik | Nyarlathotep? |
| 07:05.48 | Cairenn | or Norm if you need a male name |
| 07:05.52 | Torhal | cackles. |
| 07:06.00 | Fisker | nadir |
| 07:06.01 | Shirik | thanks all |
| 07:06.05 | Fisker | :( |
| 07:06.07 | Shirik | gender didn't really matter |
| 07:06.11 | Cairenn | Nevin :p |
| 07:06.12 | Torhal | Nyarlathotep is a name used for various characters in the works of H. P. Lovecraft and other writers. The character is commonly known in association with its role as a malign deity in the Cthulhu Mythos fictional universe, where it is known as the Crawling Chaos. |
| 07:06.14 | Shirik | don't worry Fisker I'll put yours in queue :) |
| 07:06.21 | Cairenn | points at the non-present Alestane |
| 07:06.22 | Shirik | I need a lot of names |
| 07:06.24 | Torhal | I hadn't thought of that name in at LEAST a decade. |
| 07:06.33 | Fisker | what about nero |
| 07:06.44 | Shirik | nero sounds like a perfect name for a mage |
| 07:06.44 | Torhal | Nyssa |
| 07:06.45 | Shirik | fire mage |
| 07:06.57 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: http://www.justmommies.com/baby-names/girls/n http://www.babyzone.com/baby-names/boy-names-that-start-with-n/ |
| 07:07.02 | Thunder_Child | there are a ton there |
| 07:07.08 | Shirik | yeah I was on that site |
| 07:07.10 | Shirik | and then I determined it sucks |
| 07:07.23 | Fisker | nero best name though |
| 07:07.26 | Fisker | now that i think about it |
| 07:07.31 | Shirik | have of them I'm pretty sure people just typed random letters and said "NAME!" |
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| 07:08.41 | Thunder_Child | http://babyfit.sparkpeople.com/baby-names-search-results.asp?advstartswith=N&searchtype=advanced&how=letter that eve says where it comes from |
| 07:08.44 | Thunder_Child | even* |
| 07:09.22 | Cairenn | http://www.babynamesofireland.com/n-names |
| 07:09.22 | Cairenn | http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ |
| 07:09.22 | Cairenn | http://www.namenerds.com/ |
| 07:10.10 | Cairenn | omfg, dont' go to that last one ... wtf have they done to their site?!?! |
| 07:10.26 | Cairenn | I am so sorry for having even linked it, been way too long since I've been to it, obviously |
| 07:11.05 | Torhal | That looks like some serious 1997 stuff. |
| 07:11.08 | Fisker | looks like a geoicities site |
| 07:11.17 | Fisker | geocities* |
| 07:11.19 | Cairenn | it never used to look like that, trust me |
| 07:11.21 | Fisker | well |
| 07:11.23 | Fisker | needs more blinky |
| 07:12.20 | Cairenn | but the other two .... |
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| 07:28.56 | Torhal | shakes his fist at dolby. |
| 07:30.07 | Cairenn | lol |
| 07:30.20 | Cairenn | It's as bad as being rickrolled |
| 07:31.54 | Torhal | weeps. |
| 07:38.17 | bluworkcow | *comforts Torhal* |
| 07:38.21 | bluworkcow | *fondles Torhal* |
| 07:38.33 | Torhal | has a closet full of swords. |
| 07:38.50 | bluworkcow | kinky |
| 07:38.57 | bluworkcow | shall i get the duct tape and hamsters ? |
| 07:39.21 | Torhal | I'll pass. |
| 07:45.05 | bluworkcow | :( |
| 07:45.17 | bluworkcow | *waves reed in front of Torhal* |
| 07:45.31 | bluworkcow | here kitty kitty kitty |
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| 07:47.31 | dolby | :) |
| 07:47.45 | Torhal | takes the reed and thwaps dolby with it. |
| 07:47.46 | Torhal | :D |
| 07:47.53 | dolby | oww |
| 07:48.13 | Torhal | It's bluworkcow's fault - he brought it! |
| 07:49.03 | dolby | yeah but you didnt have to thwap me with it |
| 07:49.15 | Torhal | Oh, yes. Yes I did. Harlem Shake, indeed. |
| 07:49.52 | dolby | lol |
| 07:53.12 | Fisker | hey bluworkcow |
| 07:53.15 | bluworkcow | ca I be the person randomly hip grinding something ? |
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| 07:57.51 | bluworkcow | *bats Wobin's hair* |
| 07:57.53 | bluworkcow | hi! |
| 08:10.14 | Fisker | HEY bluworkcow |
| 08:10.23 | Fisker | and especially HEY Wobin |
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| 08:16.14 | bluworkcow | *nails durcyn down* |
| 08:16.47 | durcyn | hey now, fixing efi bootloaders is rough work. |
| 08:17.50 | durcyn | still irksome that using rEFInd with bios CSM is easier than making grub-efi not suck. |
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| 08:19.49 | bluworkcow | oh |
| 08:19.52 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:20.09 | durcyn | thanks, man. i needed that. |
| 08:20.57 | Fisker | whatcha doin'? |
| 08:21.08 | Fisker | UEFI best EFI EU |
| 08:21.15 | Fisker | too bad about the secure boot stuff though |
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| 08:26.31 | durcyn | i use an old mac mini as my router, and this is the part where you stat scoffing etc |
| 08:26.49 | durcyn | start* |
| 08:39.48 | Fisker | how do you do wireless? |
| 08:46.24 | Torhal | Magic. |
| 08:46.35 | Torhal | Or Not At All (™) |
| 08:48.23 | bluworkcow | *snort* *snort* |
| 08:48.41 | bluworkcow | gotta cut the wires man |
| 08:48.57 | Torhal | bats the cocaine out of bluworkcow's hand. |
| 08:57.02 | bluworkcow | :( |
| 08:59.15 | Fisker | hey bluworkcow |
| 08:59.21 | Fisker | want to be murdered? |
| 09:01.26 | Fisker | good |
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| 09:45.42 | WobWork | hey blu, did you get your paperwhite? |
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| 09:47.45 | [Wobin] | hey bluworkcow, did you get your paperwhite? |
| 09:53.20 | bluworkcow | Indeed |
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| 10:02.48 | Adys | triple holy shit |
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| 10:07.08 | WobWork | bluworkcow: awesomesauce |
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| 10:17.44 | bluworkcow | home tiems |
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| 11:40.02 | bluspacecow | ~d3alert |
| 11:40.02 | purl | http://us.launcher.battle.net/service/d3/alert/en-us (US) or http://eu.launcher.battle.net/service/d3/alert/en-gb (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 11:41.07 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 11:41.39 | bluspacecow | hihihihihihihihihihihihihihiherrohihihihihi |
| 11:42.27 | Kalroth | y so hi |
| 11:42.39 | bluspacecow | ALIENS |
| 11:42.57 | Fisker | aliens? |
| 11:47.03 | zenzelezz | Aliens |
| 11:48.34 | Fisker | aliens |
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| 14:07.05 | Ressy | Is there an addon dev guild on the PTR? |
| 14:09.16 | karl_w_w | bottle of diet fizzy drink in my fridge says no artificial flavours on it, yet it contains 2 artifical sweeteners according to the ingredients |
| 14:09.51 | karl_w_w | if sweetness isn't a flavour... |
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| 14:23.35 | Adys | I need someone currently logged in on any european server |
| 14:23.40 | Adys | on an alliance character |
| 14:29.52 | g0urra | Adys: got one? |
| 14:29.58 | Adys | nope |
| 14:30.07 | g0urra | k logged in now |
| 14:30.07 | Adys | g0urra: what's your character's name and server? |
| 14:30.15 | g0urra | Groumnir, Steamwheedle Cartel |
| 14:30.59 | Adys | thanks |
| 14:31.01 | Adys | that'll be all |
| 14:31.05 | g0urra | np |
| 14:32.20 | Adys | !api petabil |
| 14:32.40 | Adys | jnwhiteh: wheres the bot |
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| 15:09.02 | Adys | can someone tell me why this code only works up to map #499? |
| 15:09.02 | Adys | http://paste2.org/p/3028611 |
| 15:10.58 | karl_w_w | Semlar probably knows |
| 15:11.14 | karl_w_w | maybe there isn't a map 500 :P |
| 15:11.23 | Adys | well |
| 15:11.37 | Adys | matching by name works until map #925 (brawl'gar arena) |
| 15:11.49 | Adys | matching by specific id matches it too |
| 15:12.01 | Adys | but searching on id ranges doesnt |
| 15:12.25 | Adys | https://github.com/Adys/findit/blob/master/FindIt/FindIt.lua#L271 |
| 15:12.29 | Adys | this is the findrange function |
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| 15:17.24 | foxlit | Adys: line 276 |
| 15:17.30 | foxlit | er, 277 |
| 15:17.59 | foxlit | and nevermind. Your code is just weird :) |
| 15:18.42 | karl_w_w | SetMapByID(500) fails quietly |
| 15:18.57 | bluspacecow | like a silent fart |
| 15:19.02 | bluspacecow | silent but deadly |
| 15:20.14 | foxlit | so map 500 just doesn't exist in map DBCs. |
| 15:21.10 | zenzelezz | the most likely explanation, as I see it, is the developers going "hey, let's fuck with them just a little :-D" |
| 15:21.43 | karl_w_w | you mean a lot |
| 15:22.03 | karl_w_w | to me <3 |
| 15:24.25 | Semlar | herro |
| 15:27.00 | Semlar | adys you don't need to change the map to gets its info |
| 15:28.20 | Semlar | you can get its name using GetMapNameByID(areaID) and the rest from GetAreaMapInfo(areaID) |
| 15:28.30 | bluspacecow | its only map 500 ? ie 499 501 and 502 work fine ? |
| 15:28.35 | Semlar | 500 doesn't exist |
| 15:28.56 | Semlar | there are a lot of ids that don't exist |
| 15:29.53 | Adys | Semlar: anything above 500 isnt found |
| 15:30.19 | Semlar | are you just trying to search for a map by name? |
| 15:30.42 | Adys | searching by id range gives me 1-499 just fine |
| 15:30.48 | Adys | rest is like it doesnt exist |
| 15:31.19 | Adys | searching by *name* works for all maps just fine |
| 15:31.26 | Adys | (/findmap . matches all) |
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| 15:36.08 | Semlar | it's some problem with your range function |
| 15:37.30 | Semlar | anyway, this is what i use to find random maps maybe it'll help you figure out what's wrong |
| 15:37.35 | Semlar | http://pastebin.com/BTzM7R7t |
| 15:38.02 | Adys | i wrote the range function years ago |
| 15:38.28 | Adys | it works fine for items, quests, spells and everything else |
| 15:38.33 | Semlar | well there's no reason SetMapByID would fail above 499 |
| 15:38.40 | Adys | it works fine |
| 15:38.43 | Adys | i tested it ingame |
| 15:38.48 | Adys | SetMapByID(925) works |
| 15:38.58 | Semlar | 501 should work |
| 15:39.03 | Semlar | it's wintergrasp |
| 15:39.14 | karl_w_w | according to google maps if i wanted to get to the airport by public transport to arrive by 10am on tuesday I would have to leave at 4pm yesterday (friday) |
| 15:39.48 | Semlar | see this is why i never take the bus |
| 15:40.35 | Adys | ohh |
| 15:40.36 | Adys | GetAreaMaps() |
| 15:40.39 | Adys | i didnt know that function |
| 15:41.34 | karl_w_w | or if i use the transport system's journey planner i can do it by leaving at 4.45am on the day and taking a trip which has 9 legs and a total of 5km walking |
| 15:42.29 | karl_w_w | and they wonder why there's a parking problem |
| 15:49.17 | Semlar | oh, adys you can use ipairs on GetAreaMaps if you want it in the right order |
| 15:49.27 | Semlar | i was just using pairs because it didn't really matter |
| 15:50.17 | Semlar | and i wrote it really fast because i just needed a function to quickly get the id of a map name |
| 15:50.42 | Adys | also |
| 15:50.43 | Adys | http://paste2.org/p/3028895 |
| 15:50.46 | Adys | is this clean? |
| 15:51.06 | Adys | foxlit: you said my code's weird, is there a way to make it clearer? |
| 15:51.18 | Semlar | i didn't look to closely at it |
| 15:51.23 | Semlar | it was intimidating |
| 15:52.03 | Adys | it just iterates over first, last (with support for reverse search) |
| 15:52.12 | Adys | and inserts the result as id, link in a table |
| 15:53.21 | Semlar | looks fine |
| 15:54.26 | Semlar | although you don't need to get the range you could just count backwards in the for loop |
| 15:55.16 | Semlar | or even just from last to first |
| 15:55.38 | Semlar | right? |
| 15:55.41 | Adys | which build added GetMapNameByID? |
| 15:55.49 | Semlar | it was in mop beta |
| 15:56.01 | Adys | and SetMapByID? |
| 15:56.10 | Semlar | that may have been earlier but i don't know |
| 15:56.22 | Adys | http://forums.curseforge.com/showthread.php?t=17446 |
| 15:56.25 | Adys | much earlier apparently |
| 15:56.38 | Adys | cause I'm trying to keep support for older versions too |
| 15:56.40 | Semlar | i knew it was one of the only documented functions when i started |
| 15:57.04 | Semlar | not that i've done much to help that situation |
| 15:57.08 | Semlar | >_> |
| 15:58.25 | Adys | fix it then :P |
| 15:58.27 | Adys | wowprogramming.com |
| 15:58.28 | Adys | gogo |
| 15:58.38 | Semlar | that sounds an awful lot like effort.. |
| 15:59.58 | Adys | nah |
| 16:00.42 | Semlar | i never got the syntax of this site down, i always have to look at another entry to figure it out |
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| 16:01.18 | smcn | first epic seen from mop heroic |
| 16:01.22 | smcn | headmaster's will |
| 16:01.53 | Semlar | did you disenchant it |
| 16:02.03 | smcn | nope |
| 16:02.35 | smcn | but i didn't win it either :( |
| 16:02.46 | Semlar | :( |
| 16:02.59 | smcn | :( :( :( :(((((((((((((((((( |
| 16:07.15 | Adys | :( |
| 16:13.09 | Semlar | alright smcn, i'm going to have to ask you to stop bringing everyone down |
| 16:13.17 | smcn | lol |
| 16:13.47 | smcn | on a lighter note, the sequester went through last night |
| 16:13.48 | smcn | oh wait |
| 16:14.27 | Semlar | i'll sequester you |
| 16:21.19 | mikma | nooooo! serialsequestersemlar! |
| 16:30.11 | Adys | Semlar: do you know which dbc this corresponds to? http://www.wowpedia.org/API_C_PetBattles.GetAbilityInfoByID |
| 16:30.59 | Semlar | i'd have to look through them |
| 16:31.10 | Adys | ANSWER MY QUESTION, MINION |
| 16:31.11 | Semlar | i mostly just deal with the maps |
| 16:31.17 | Semlar | i can check |
| 16:31.22 | Adys | CHECK, SLAVE. |
| 16:35.27 | Adys | SummonRandomCritter() is bugged i guess since 5.x |
| 16:36.30 | Semlar | hm |
| 16:37.04 | Semlar | i don't see anything in the localized dbcs that immediately looks like it has anything to do with pet battles |
| 16:37.23 | Semlar | but there's gtBattlePetTypeDamageMod.dbc and gtBattlePetXP.dbc in misc |
| 16:37.37 | Adys | it's probably a Spell* dbc |
| 16:38.11 | Semlar | DBFilesClient\SpellMechanic.dbc |
| 16:38.13 | Semlar | DBFilesClient\SpellDispelType.dbc |
| 16:38.14 | Semlar | DBFilesClient\SpellFlyout.dbc |
| 16:38.16 | Semlar | DBFilesClient\SpellFocusObject.dbc |
| 16:38.17 | Semlar | DBFilesClient\SpellRange.dbc |
| 16:38.19 | Semlar | DBFilesClient\SpellShapeshiftForm.dbc |
| 16:38.20 | Semlar | DBFilesClient\SpecializationSpells.dbc |
| 16:38.22 | Semlar | DBFilesClient\Spell.dbc |
| 16:38.24 | Semlar | DBFilesClient\SpellCategory.dbc |
| 16:38.26 | Semlar | DBFilesClient\SpellItemEnchantment.dbc |
| 16:38.43 | Semlar | from the localized file |
| 16:38.44 | mikma | C-C-C-C-C-C-COCKBREAKER! |
| 16:39.08 | Semlar | i'm assuming it's localized because they have the description in there |
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| 16:39.39 | Semlar | although they could be pulling from more than one file |
| 16:39.57 | Semlar | they definitely do for the area map function |
| 16:40.36 | Semlar | there is a CreatureSpellData.dbc in misc but i *think* that has to do with hunter pets |
| 16:46.17 | Semlar | http://pastebin.com/aYjmpJAk here is the entire list of dbc files |
| 16:48.08 | mikma | bannedaddons <3 |
| 16:50.06 | End_ | there's a BattlePetAbility.db2 |
| 16:50.20 | Semlar | hmm |
| 16:50.52 | Semlar | that's probably it |
| 16:52.38 | Semlar | i don't parse db2 files so i'd have to write something if you want anything out of it |
| 16:52.56 | Adys | you dont? |
| 16:53.02 | Adys | they're almost the same format |
| 16:53.30 | Semlar | nothing i want is in db2 format |
| 16:53.41 | Adys | https://github.com/Adys/pywow/blob/master/wdbc/db2.py |
| 16:53.45 | Adys | dbc files with a different header |
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| 17:01.17 | Ackis | anyone feel like helping me get a bank alt guild set up on Alliance - Scarlet Crusade? having trouble getting signatures |
| 17:02.21 | mikma | semlar: while at it, use adys' .py and show us(me!) bannedaddons.dbc :D |
| 17:02.22 | karl_w_w | haha just found out that you aren't breaking the law if you don't wear a seatbelt while reversing |
| 17:02.35 | Adys | mikma: it's just hashes |
| 17:02.43 | Adys | you want them? |
| 17:02.46 | Semlar | there's nothing in bannedaddons worth looking at |
| 17:02.56 | mikma | poop, then screw you guys |
| 17:03.05 | Adys | no |
| 17:03.08 | Adys | screw YOU |
| 17:03.17 | mikma | hashes..... what will that help ^^ |
| 17:04.48 | Semlar | okay, i can parse the file i just don't know what the fields are yet |
| 17:05.57 | Semlar | although there are exactly 8 entries so probably the same as the result of that api function |
| 17:07.19 | Semlar | i need to play around with it to figure out the order |
| 17:13.34 | karl_w_w | "Riding a bicycle furiously or recklessly is a $66 fine in NSW." |
| 17:13.36 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 17:16.15 | Ackis | chrome, firefox, IE, opera and safari... any other web browsers that are decent? |
| 17:16.47 | Fisker | you need to strike every browser but chrome from that list Ackis |
| 17:17.15 | Ackis | Fisker: I have a particular need of 4 different browsers and I'm finding opera and safari to be pieces of shit |
| 17:17.23 | Ackis | I'd rather use IE than either of those two |
| 17:17.52 | Fisker | sure |
| 17:37.20 | Semlar | the string table format in the db2 file is not the same as dbc |
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| 18:01.30 | Adys | Ackis: what OS? windows? |
| 18:02.58 | Adys | Semlar: it is the same iirc |
| 18:03.06 | Adys | unless it has changed since cata |
| 18:03.25 | Semlar | yeah forget what i said |
| 18:04.59 | Semlar | (0, 0, 1, 0, 7, 2, 132109, 0) this is the first row |
| 18:05.03 | Semlar | i know 7 is the id |
| 18:05.30 | Semlar | 1 appears to be a reference to the string block for the name of the ability |
| 18:06.07 | Semlar | except the next row is (0, 0, 1, 18, 70, 0, 135915, 2) |
| 18:06.35 | Semlar | and the offset for the name is clearly not 1 again |
| 18:07.03 | Maldivia | 1 is almost never a string reference |
| 18:07.06 | Shirik | lol. |
| 18:07.08 | Shirik | http://sardinereport.wordpress.com/2013/03/01/legislature-passes-bill-making-paul-lepage-king-of-the-universe/ |
| 18:07.36 | Fisker | how does that work? |
| 18:07.48 | Semlar | well, 1 through 17 is "Alexander's Hand" which is the name for id 7 |
| 18:08.23 | Semlar | then 18-56 in the string block is the description for it |
| 18:09.33 | Semlar | i'm not sure how the db2 file references strings |
| 18:10.06 | Maldivia | same way as dbc, string table at the end (null-terminated) |
| 18:10.48 | Semlar | yeah i have the string block broken up that way no problem |
| 18:11.48 | Adys | Semlar: the fourth column is the name |
| 18:11.50 | Adys | not the third |
| 18:11.54 | Adys | 1 and 18 |
| 18:12.00 | Adys | for rows 1 and 2 |
| 18:12.05 | Adys | er, 0 and 18 sorry |
| 18:12.28 | Semlar | http://pastebin.com/wmKagPPs |
| 18:12.39 | Maldivia | yeah, 1 is very rarely a string reference, that would mean that that first string (offset 0) was empty |
| 18:12.56 | Semlar | 0 is usually empty |
| 18:13.02 | Iriel | Unless someone decided to use 0 for "there is no value" |
| 18:13.06 | Iriel | in which case it makes a ton of sense |
| 18:13.22 | Semlar | 1 is definitely the first string |
| 18:13.37 | Adys | ah yes sorry |
| 18:13.39 | Adys | 0 is empty |
| 18:13.42 | Adys | 1 is first value |
| 18:13.45 | Adys | slaps Maldivia |
| 18:13.51 | Maldivia | heh e:) |
| 18:13.57 | Adys | you got me confused >:( |
| 18:14.05 | foxlit | Adys: foxlit: you said my code's weird, is there a way to make it clearer? << the three-number form of a for loop |
| 18:14.09 | Maldivia | is happy, confusing is my life's goal |
| 18:14.10 | foxlit | for id=last,first,-1 |
| 18:14.27 | Adys | Semlar: both 3 and 4 are strings |
| 18:14.44 | Adys | 2 is definitely a flag of sorts |
| 18:14.55 | Adys | 1 is probably a reference |
| 18:14.56 | foxlit | but if you don't care about iteration order, it's far easier just to swap first and last if they're in the wrong order; which lets you drop the two identical for loops. |
| 18:15.08 | Adys | foxlit: yeah decent idea |
| 18:15.14 | Adys | actually |
| 18:15.18 | Semlar | 0 |
| 18:15.20 | Maldivia | Semlar: so there are two with the same name, but different descriptions |
| 18:15.21 | Semlar | 1 Alexander's Hand |
| 18:15.22 | Semlar | 18 Rushes at the enemy to inflict damage. |
| 18:15.24 | Semlar | 57 Heal Back Line Test |
| 18:15.26 | Semlar | 77 Heal's back line 50, but has a 2-round cooldown |
| 18:15.28 | Semlar | 125 Damage Test |
| 18:15.29 | Semlar | these are the first 5 strings and their offsets |
| 18:15.48 | Adys | foxlit: i think i didnt do that because i needed the ids and such |
| 18:15.54 | Maldivia | Semlar: so entry one is "Alexander's Hand", "", second entry is "Alexander's Hand", "Rushes..." |
| 18:16.06 | Semlar | but it can't be, 70 is a reference to a different ability |
| 18:16.17 | Semlar | if i run it in game |
| 18:16.22 | foxlit | Adys: in the present version, it doesn't seem that you do. |
| 18:16.26 | Semlar | 7 is alexander's hand, rushes at the enemy etc |
| 18:16.31 | Semlar | 70 is heal back line test |
| 18:16.35 | Adys | foxlit: ya ill get it fixed, thanks |
| 18:16.37 | Semlar | 71 is damage test |
| 18:17.06 | Maldivia | Semlar: are you sure you are reading the lines correctly then, that you haven't offset it by 16 bytes? |
| 18:17.10 | foxlit | something like http://paste2.org/p/3029817 |
| 18:17.13 | Semlar | no |
| 18:17.30 | Semlar | clearly i'm doing something wrong |
| 18:17.40 | Maldivia | Semlar: usually the id-field is the first |
| 18:18.05 | Adys | not always tbh |
| 18:18.09 | Adys | especially in the recent dbcs |
| 18:18.13 | Maldivia | and if you're saying 7, 70, 71, etc is the id, then it looks like you started reading 16 bytes to early |
| 18:18.55 | Adys | oh |
| 18:18.55 | Maldivia | well, haven't looked at DBC files really for a while |
| 18:18.56 | Adys | i see it |
| 18:19.15 | Adys | but that would break the last row |
| 18:19.23 | Adys | and it looks fine from here |
| 18:19.34 | Adys | unless you have an extraneous few bytes at the end Semlar? |
| 18:19.45 | Semlar | i didn't paste all the rows |
| 18:19.52 | Adys | WELL THEN |
| 18:20.19 | Maldivia | Semlar: try skipping 16 bytes and reading from there instead, see if everything aligns then |
| 18:20.43 | Semlar | well, the string block is being read from the correct offset |
| 18:21.04 | Iriel | That would make a ton more sense since you'd have 1,18 |
| 18:21.06 | Iriel | for name description |
| 18:21.10 | Iriel | for the first entry |
| 18:21.58 | Adys | Semlar: the string block is being read from the correct location because if your code is right you have its offset in the header |
| 18:22.12 | Semlar | i have string_block_start = 48 + numRecords * record_size |
| 18:22.41 | Semlar | with 48 being the header size |
| 18:23.08 | Semlar | and then for i in xrange(numRecords): startpos = 48 + i * record_size |
| 18:23.08 | Maldivia | and from where do you start reading records? |
| 18:23.34 | Semlar | this is how i read the dbc files |
| 18:24.29 | Adys | Semlar: the db2 files have an extra header |
| 18:24.32 | Semlar | sig, numRecords, fields, record_size, string_block_size, dbhash, build, timestamp, lookup_start, lookup_end, locale, unk = Struct('4s11i').unpack(datas[:48]) |
| 18:24.38 | Semlar | wait what do you mean |
| 18:24.51 | Adys | wait |
| 18:25.06 | Adys | ah yeah |
| 18:25.20 | Adys | https://github.com/Adys/pywow/blob/master/wdbc/db2.py#L40 |
| 18:25.34 | Semlar | lookup_start and lookup_end are both 0 |
| 18:26.14 | Semlar | WDB2 677 8 32 80831 -878429225 16650 0 0 0 1 0 |
| 18:26.27 | Semlar | that's what i have for the header |
| 18:26.51 | Semlar | the negative number is the hash which is probably not an integer |
| 18:27.07 | Adys | it is |
| 18:27.26 | Maldivia | hash |
| 18:28.23 | Fisker | i want some hash |
| 18:30.40 | Semlar | (7, 2, 132109, 0, 0, 0, 1, 18) |
| 18:30.42 | Semlar | (70, 0, 135915, 2, 0, 0, 57, 77) |
| 18:30.42 | Semlar | (71, 6, 135807, 0, 0, 0, 125, 0) |
| 18:30.43 | Semlar | (72, 0, 135817, 0, 0, 0, 137, 0) |
| 18:30.44 | Semlar | (73, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 154, 170) |
| 18:30.46 | Semlar | i guess that probably makes more sense |
| 18:30.49 | Adys | looks a lot better |
| 18:31.21 | Shirik | sha1 tastes better than md5 |
| 18:32.03 | Iriel | Shirik: slightly more filling, but it's more nutritious |
| 18:32.09 | Semlar | i think i forgot to change 32 to 48 somewhere |
| 18:32.20 | Semlar | which is a good reason to make the header size a variable |
| 18:32.36 | Iriel | "named constant" |
| 18:32.41 | Semlar | whatevs |
| 18:32.48 | Iriel | Variable implies it's going to change |
| 18:33.03 | Semlar | hey, it changed from the dbc length |
| 18:35.49 | Semlar | id, f2, f3, f4, f5, f6, name, description = Struct('8i').unpack(record) |
| 18:36.04 | Semlar | now i just need to figure out what the rest of these are |
| 18:37.04 | Maldivia | well, the header length of the dbc files have changed over time :P |
| 18:37.42 | Semlar | none of the rest appear to be strings |
| 18:38.00 | Semlar | so i'm not sure where it gets the path to the icon |
| 18:39.03 | Maldivia | seperate dbc file then |
| 18:39.30 | Maldivia | one of them could be areference to the spell icon dbc |
| 18:39.43 | Semlar | probably |
| 18:40.26 | Semlar | i think it's the third field |
| 18:40.37 | Semlar | since 73 has no icon listed and it's 0 in the row |
| 18:42.23 | Semlar | field 2 + 1 appears to be the pet type |
| 18:42.47 | Maldivia | well, you have field type and vulnabilities |
| 18:43.04 | Maldivia | or what it's strong/weak against |
| 18:43.47 | Maldivia | and duration and cooldown |
| 18:45.02 | Semlar | maxcooldown looks like field 4 |
| 18:45.43 | Iriel | Are you sure all of the fields are ints? (I know nothing of the DBC format, just general data structures) |
| 18:45.50 | Semlar | that leaves 5 and 6 which are all 0 in the ones i've checked |
| 18:46.09 | Semlar | i assume int until proven otherwise |
| 18:47.21 | Semlar | these certainly all appear to be ints |
| 18:49.29 | Semlar | i'm not sure what field 5 and 6 are |
| 18:49.43 | Semlar | 77 Strong Trap 0 6 |
| 18:49.45 | Semlar | 84 PadAuraTest 104 0 |
| 18:49.46 | Semlar | 86 Stun Aura Test 103 0 |
| 18:49.58 | Semlar | this is id, name, field 5, field 6 |
| 18:50.45 | Iriel | bitmasked packed values? indexes into another lookup table |
| 18:51.14 | Semlar | could be references |
| 18:51.42 | Semlar | they don't appear to correlate with anything from C_PetBattles.GetAbilityInfoByID |
| 18:53.05 | Semlar | i haven't identified "numTurns" or "noStrongWeakHints" |
| 18:53.21 | Semlar | so they could be those |
| 18:55.26 | Semlar | there's a BattlePetSpecies.db2 and a BattlePetNPCTeamMember.db2 which they might be referencing |
| 19:01.30 | Semlar | anyway, adys it's something like this id, petType, iconRef, maxCooldown, somethin, somethinelse, name, description = Struct('8i').unpack(record) |
| 19:04.02 | Ackis | amazing: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BbqsiFt1B40/T4WveW_8r1I/AAAAAAAAJdw/RAWojr8nL0s/s1600/EL+BESO+DE+LA+MUERTE.jpg |
| 19:04.20 | Semlar | gay |
| 19:05.13 | Ackis | actually it's one man performing mouth to mouth on someone who has been struck by electricity |
| 19:06.04 | Semlar | still gay |
| 19:15.25 | mikma | ackis: ultragaaaaaayyyyyy |
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| 19:30.38 | smcn | sealgay.jpg |
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| 19:35.47 | Adys | can you do a, b = b, a in lua? |
| 19:35.50 | Adys | safely |
| 19:36.38 | smcn | just tried it, seems fine |
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| 19:41.34 | nevcairiel | i believe this indeed is safe in lua |
| 19:41.58 | nevcairiel | because of the way multiple return values work |
| 19:42.09 | nevcairiel | or however you call it |
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| 20:01.27 | smcn | is there a global value/function that contains/returns the maximum number of ignores you can have? a cursory search turns up nothing |
| 20:02.17 | smcn | ERR_IGNORE_FULL = "You can't ignore any more players."; damn it, couldn't you have put it there blizzard? |
| 20:03.25 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 20:03.42 | zenzelezz | any idea how many that is? |
| 20:04.06 | smcn | it's 50 according to http://www.wowwiki.com/Ignore |
| 20:04.17 | Ressy | There are addons that'll allow you to ignore more. |
| 20:04.34 | zenzelezz | I'm not sure I've ever ignored anyone |
| 20:04.53 | zenzelezz | been ignored by a few people who I called out on poor behaviour |
| 20:05.01 | Xemnosyst | I have when trying to invite them to a group and mis-clicking |
| 20:05.29 | smcn | indeed, but extra ignores from addons are basically just chat filters and don't do what i primarily use ignore for, which is to prevent being grouped with them in lfd/lfr |
| 20:06.09 | smcn | i'm currently writing an addon that allows ignores to expire after a number of days but only for "real" ignores |
| 20:06.11 | zenzelezz | I remember once, in particular. Was doing low-level questing in... Bolder Lode Mine? Had slowly cleared my way to the "boss", the target of the mission |
| 20:06.20 | zenzelezz | while I'm fighting the last trash mob, someone swoops in and steals boss |
| 20:06.52 | smcn | yeah, thank goodness for shared quest mobs (and isle of thunder rares in 5.2) |
| 20:06.53 | zenzelezz | I tell him "thanks for sharing...", and he replies "you stole the whole place" and ignores me |
| 20:06.57 | smcn | lol |
| 20:13.54 | Shirik | smcn: Just do /script ERR_IGNORE_FULL = "You can ignore more players"; |
| 20:14.06 | smcn | lol |
| 20:14.35 | smcn | the last two things i typed were lol, i should be flogged |
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| 20:25.09 | tharper | Humbedooh: any chance you are watching melodifestivalen? |
| 20:29.29 | zenzelezz | I always find it interesting to make thinly veiled Captain Morgan jokes in MMOs in the weekends, and seeing who gets them. Gives me a feeling there are in fact adults playing |
| 20:31.08 | zenzelezz | though some of my amusement might just be because of the Morgan |
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| 20:44.14 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/VYy1JXO.jpg |
| 20:47.21 | zenzelezz | this thing you're doing is turning out rather impressive |
| 20:50.49 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/LifMbRO.jpg |
| 20:51.48 | Semlar | it's actually almost usable for things |
| 20:54.03 | Semlar | it's using almost 9mb of ram right now but it's relatively light on processing |
| 20:55.52 | Semlar | i could compress the data but it would be slower to access it |
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| 21:13.13 | TC-Away | 9mb? that's not much |
| 21:17.32 | Semlar | i've seen UIs that use more than 40mb >_> |
| 21:18.00 | Adys | wow's population is braindead |
| 21:18.14 | Adys | i already knew that but i think im only starting to properly realize it |
| 21:18.32 | Elkano | Semlar, well there are some addons that require a large amount of static memory for holding data |
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| 22:28.57 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/e59UMLV.jpg wait a minute, just how many quarters does undercity have |
| 22:30.23 | nevcairiel | dont take it too literally |
| 22:30.40 | Semlar | too late |
| 22:30.45 | nevcairiel | quarter is often used in relation to parts of a city without there actually being 4 |
| 22:31.13 | foxlit | ^ is often used (correctly) :) |
| 22:31.41 | Gnarfoz | in ancient times it was 4 many times, hence the word |
| 22:32.16 | nevcairiel | yeah the romans did that |
| 22:38.41 | sylvanaar | i love lynda.com seems like such a great deal |
| 22:39.35 | sylvanaar | any of you use it? |
| 22:39.55 | Thunder_Child | I have access through work but i don't use it |
| 22:41.32 | sylvanaar | I am using it for non-programming stuff |
| 22:42.09 | sylvanaar | it has nice photography courses |
| 22:42.39 | zachwlewis | Anyone know how to get a character's trade skills and levels? |
| 22:44.51 | sylvanaar | lets see if the bot is still here |
| 22:44.53 | sylvanaar | !api trade |
| 22:44.57 | sylvanaar | no |
| 22:46.21 | zachwlewis | Everything here seems to deal with getting information about a specific trade skill: http://www.wowpedia.org/World_of_Warcraft_API#TradeSkill_Functions |
| 22:47.24 | foxlit | zachwlewis: the keyword you're looking for is Profession |
| 22:47.34 | zachwlewis | Yeah. |
| 22:47.38 | zachwlewis | http://www.wowpedia.org/World_of_Warcraft_API#Profession_Functions |
| 22:47.51 | zachwlewis | So, Professions let a character use trade skills? |
| 22:48.00 | foxlit | Professions /are/ trade skills. |
| 22:48.09 | zachwlewis | I know. That's my confusion. :P |
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| 22:48.30 | zachwlewis | It seems like GetProfessions() would be a great place to start. :) |
| 22:48.32 | foxlit | (or, rather, something like Tailoring is a profession; Black Mageweave Headband is probably a trade skill) |
| 22:50.20 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.25 | sylvanaar | maybe |
| 22:50.49 | zachwlewis | That returns information about a trade skill, like "Black Mageweave Headband." |
| 22:50.57 | zachwlewis | What materials it needs, etc. |
| 22:51.38 | sylvanaar | ah |
| 22:54.51 | Adys | Reverting the silence and crowd control changes from early in the PTR was done to prevent healers from becoming too strong with the various instant heals they have. This kind of a change might be made in the next expansion. |
| 22:54.56 | Adys | what changes are they talking about? |
| 22:55.35 | Adys | Skirmishes are still on the todo list. <<< last i checked so were dance studios... |
| 22:57.48 | sylvanaar | then GetProfessionInfo() like foxlit suggested |
| 23:03.39 | foxlit | Adys: something like removing silences in favor of interrupts, and adding cast times CC abilities? |
| 23:04.31 | Adys | got a link? |
| 23:04.40 | foxlit | nope |
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| 23:13.38 | zachwlewis | https://gist.github.com/zachwlewis/5073674 |
| 23:13.54 | zachwlewis | There's a snippet that'll trace the character's professions and stats. |
| 23:24.53 | Stanzilla | !api GetShadowColor |
| 23:24.58 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 23:25.53 | Gnarfoz | !api GetShadowedColor |
| 23:26.40 | Stanzilla | noope |
| 23:26.49 | Gnarfoz | lua> dick color |
| 23:27.02 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 23:27.06 | Stanzilla | haha |
| 23:27.26 | Stanzilla | I basicly want to know what the default value for SetShadowColor is |
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| 23:27.31 | Stanzilla | I bet foxlit can tell me |
| 23:32.27 | foxlit | the default shadow color is fully transparent black. |
| 23:33.27 | Stanzilla | so 1,1,1,1? |
| 23:33.47 | foxlit | that would be fully opaque white. |
| 23:35.44 | Semlar|Laptop | 0,0,0,0 |
| 23:36.01 | Stanzilla | that does not make sense though |
| 23:36.05 | Stanzilla | the chat font has a visible shadow |
| 23:36.10 | Stanzilla | so probably 0 0 0 1 |
| 23:36.23 | Semlar|Laptop | why don't you just print out GetShadowColor |
| 23:37.01 | Stanzilla | because I thought it did not exist after the api bot did not answer :( |
| 23:37.02 | foxlit | Stanzilla: then you're asking the wrong question :) |
| 23:37.19 | foxlit | Font templates customize shadow colors |
| 23:37.56 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:38.17 | Stanzilla | thanks |
| 23:40.33 | foxlit | "Damage cannot exceed your total health." << Dammit, Touch of Karma! |
| 23:44.42 | foxlit | I was standing there thinking "Oh hey, I can just soak this deadly AoE and kill the caster all the faster for it!" Death came suddenly. |
| 23:45.01 | foxlit | On the bright side, travel time from the nearest graveyard was zero. |
