| 00:10.46 | Semlar | i wonder if they're ever going to enable water for the iotk maps because half of them are still missing it |
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| 00:12.04 | kd3|phone | Blah |
| 00:12.09 | Semlar | blah! |
| 00:12.25 | Semlar | kd3 make them turn on the water |
| 00:12.58 | Semlar | the minimaps look quite barren without it |
| 00:13.28 | kd3|phone | Out walking a horse in the moonlight because she's colic and we've gotta keep her moving til the vet gets here |
| 00:14.47 | Semlar | horse treadmill |
| 00:14.48 | kd3|phone | Phone in one hand, lead rope in the other. Shocked I haven't eaten it yet |
| 00:15.29 | kd3|phone | Difficult, she's 1100 lbs |
| 00:15.31 | foxlit | you do know what your next project is, semlar, don't you? |
| 00:15.31 | foxlit | contour maps based on actual topography. |
| 00:15.31 | foxlit | forget those ugly minimap tiles :P |
| 00:15.54 | Semlar | elevation? |
| 00:16.36 | Semlar | i can get the elevation but i don't know what to do with it |
| 00:17.43 | Semlar | i had an idea to generate diablo 3 style minimaps but i just don't see that happening |
| 00:18.30 | kd3|phone | At least it's a full moon tonight. |
| 00:18.46 | Semlar | maybe it's a werehorse |
| 00:20.17 | Semlar | i probably could generate contour maps but it would be a lot of data |
| 00:23.48 | Semlar | each minimap tile is divided into 145 squares that represent the height of that area |
| 00:25.15 | foxlit | 145 isn't even a square :/ |
| 00:25.29 | Semlar | it appears to be alternating rows of 9 and 8 |
| 00:25.30 | karl_w_w | kd3|phone: eaten the phone or eaten the horse? |
| 00:25.45 | Semlar | so you have 4 points with 1 in the middle |
| 00:25.54 | kd3|phone | Dirt |
| 00:26.23 | Semlar | :-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-: |
| 00:26.41 | Semlar | like that |
| 00:28.21 | Semlar | well, if you wanted to get really detailed you could use the vertices that make up the surfaces |
| 00:28.55 | Semlar | but that would be overkill for a contour map |
| 00:29.54 | Semlar | http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/2313/nuovaimmaginebitmapk.png |
| 00:35.39 | Semlar | http://cursecraft.com/media/kalimdor8bit.png this is a 7mb image |
| 00:37.07 | Semlar | it's kalimdor in minecraft |
| 00:37.55 | foxlit | useful! |
| 00:38.01 | foxlit | next next project: minecraft in wow. |
| 00:38.23 | karl_w_w | wow Semlar, old news is so exciting! :P |
| 00:38.34 | Semlar | well, it's relevent |
| 00:39.01 | Semlar | they used the height information from the adts and models to create it |
| 00:39.02 | foxlit | back under your bridge, karl_w_w: nobody claimed it was news. |
| 00:39.36 | Semlar | i could probably do something similar |
| 00:40.07 | foxlit | but also colors and things. I wonder if the caves are there |
| 00:40.37 | Semlar | i don't know, it would depend on how they generated it |
| 00:40.47 | Semlar | and i don't know what they did |
| 00:41.28 | Semlar | that level of detail suggests that they read over every model and if they did that it probably does have buildings and stuff |
| 00:45.51 | Semlar | do you know if there's any public information about what they did |
| 00:47.41 | foxlit | the URL in the image is informative. |
| 00:47.53 | foxlit | -> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/997352-crafting-azeroth/ |
| 00:49.51 | Semlar | they don't go into too much technical information but i'm pretty sure i know what they did |
| 00:54.10 | Semlar | their maps are also 24gb |
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| 01:00.07 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/Huykn6Q.jpg uh, can you actually get into that cave in the top right |
| 01:01.38 | Semlar | it doesn't appear to have a name |
| 01:04.06 | Semlar | i would go exploring but i don't think you can even get to the island right now |
| 01:04.28 | F16Gaming | next dmf is sunday |
| 01:05.04 | kd3|phone | You can. Its a quiet spot to fish |
| 01:05.11 | Semlar | is it underwater? |
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| 01:05.43 | Semlar | also does that tent in the lower left not have an indoor minimap |
| 01:05.50 | Semlar | can you get inside of it |
| 01:06.06 | F16Gaming | have you never been to DMF Semlar? :P |
| 01:06.16 | Semlar | i've been there just haven't paid much attention |
| 01:06.27 | F16Gaming | the lower left is the arena tent thing |
| 01:06.31 | Semlar | it's also been a while |
| 01:06.51 | F16Gaming | it should have an indoor map though |
| 01:06.55 | Semlar | i'm just trying to make sure there's nothing wrong with my script |
| 01:07.19 | Semlar | i don't suppose it's phased or anything |
| 01:07.28 | F16Gaming | doubt it's phased |
| 01:07.39 | F16Gaming | but i'm 70% certain it has an indoor map :P |
| 01:08.01 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/9IUeosz.jpg it certainly has a bounding box |
| 01:08.31 | Semlar | hmm |
| 01:14.43 | Semlar | i definitely don't have any textures for this model |
| 01:17.01 | Semlar | for now i'm just going to assume it doesn't have any |
| 01:20.57 | Semlar | the ptr keeps disconnecting me :s |
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| 01:46.01 | kd3|phone | Alright, vet. Any time you'd like to get here... |
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| 02:19.34 | Shirik | kd3|phone? |
| 02:20.20 | kd3|phone | One of mom's horses is colicky. |
| 02:20.42 | Mr_Rabies | horse colic coughs must be a nightmare |
| 02:20.51 | Mr_Rabies | i can't even imagine what that sounds like |
| 02:21.14 | kd3|phone | Not quite like baby colic |
| 02:21.20 | Mr_Rabies | oh, apparently horse colic is its own thing |
| 02:21.22 | Mr_Rabies | interesting |
| 02:21.45 | Mr_Rabies | it's like a GI blockage thing |
| 02:23.56 | kd3|phone | Yah vet stuffed a good meter of tube up her nostril and beer-bonged a gallon of fluid down it |
| 02:24.38 | Shirik | :( |
| 02:25.43 | kd3|phone | Unsure what's next, but I can guess... |
| 02:26.29 | Thunder_Child | A donkey show? |
| 02:26.34 | karl_w_w | jesus shirley bassey's voice is still strong |
| 02:26.46 | Mr_Rabies | the orchestra had a little hiccup there |
| 02:26.51 | Mr_Rabies | when she changed the rhythm |
| 02:26.52 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 02:27.34 | karl_w_w | damn singers doing things however they like with no regard for anyone else :P |
| 02:29.21 | Mr_Rabies | it happens a few times on metallica's S&M album as well, though it's obvious they did an absolute ton of practice before that concert |
| 02:29.38 | Mr_Rabies | that or michael kamen is just that good |
| 02:32.49 | Mr_Rabies | DJANGOOOO |
| 02:32.53 | Mr_Rabies | i love that song so much |
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| 02:53.43 | kd3 | well, thankfully, doing anything involving the other end wasn't part of the plan |
| 02:54.39 | Semlar | how did the horse feel about it |
| 02:54.57 | kd3 | she got a little something before the intubation, so she feels better |
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| 03:10.26 | Mr_Rabies | horsenip |
| 03:15.43 | karl_w_w | a tied oscar |
| 03:15.47 | karl_w_w | what the what |
| 03:16.53 | Mr_Rabies | for what category |
| 03:16.54 | Mr_Rabies | i missed it |
| 03:17.05 | karl_w_w | sound something |
| 03:17.07 | bleeter | one for the taylor swift fans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpfQSqfpuac |
| 03:17.09 | karl_w_w | editing or the other one |
| 03:17.15 | karl_w_w | yeah editing |
| 03:17.24 | karl_w_w | zero dark thirty and skyfall |
| 03:17.24 | Mr_Rabies | skyfall had some really great everything |
| 03:17.45 | Mr_Rabies | it was just about as perfect as a movie could be to me |
| 03:19.18 | karl_w_w | jeez it was good but not that good :P |
| 03:19.50 | Mr_Rabies | it does everything the cinematic experience is all about so, so well |
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| 03:30.36 | Adys | kd3: which version of wine are you using |
| 03:31.02 | kd3 | 1.5.24-35-gc449427 |
| 03:31.59 | kd3 | gimme a sec and I'll rebuild from master |
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| 03:35.38 | kd3 | now using wine-1.5.24-119-g209b58c |
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| 03:49.16 | karl_w_w | kristin stewart cant even give an award properly! |
| 03:53.46 | Semlar | kd3: http://i.imgur.com/1x4nX1U.jpg caverns of time |
| 03:54.41 | kd3 | neat |
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| 04:01.09 | Semlar | it's huuuuuuuuge |
| 04:01.41 | karl_w_w | them obviouses |
| 04:02.31 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/3ihjtJu.jpg hyjal has some pretty big magma cave things |
| 04:02.57 | kd3 | most of them are used in one-off quests |
| 04:04.28 | kd3 | such as <http://www.wowpedia.org/Quest:Into_the_Maw!>, <http://www.wowpedia.org/Quest:The_Hatchery_Must_Burn>, <http://www.wowpedia.org/Quest:The_Third_Flamegate>, and so forth |
| 04:06.59 | Semlar | i'm not sure what some of this stuff is http://i.imgur.com/djNWjdP.jpg |
| 04:07.06 | Semlar | around orgrimmar's front gate |
| 04:07.26 | kd3 | I'm not that familiar with org, so I can't help you there |
| 04:12.29 | karl_w_w | it almost looks like the old entrance tunnel |
| 04:12.36 | karl_w_w | in pieces |
| 04:12.56 | Semlar | could be |
| 04:13.22 | Semlar | i should check their z index |
| 04:13.39 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/1LdugqJ.jpg >_> |
| 04:18.49 | kd3 | that's vasjir, the two demigods, and the two home bases in abyssal depths |
| 04:19.49 | karl_w_w | so adele has several grammies and an oscar |
| 04:19.57 | karl_w_w | only an emmy and a tony to go |
| 04:20.03 | karl_w_w | tony should be easy for her |
| 04:20.30 | Semlar | yeah i need to draw the underwater terrain tiles for it |
| 04:20.47 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/Mr4ZnRR.jpg i'm convinced there are buildings in the middle of the ocean kd3 |
| 04:21.36 | Semlar | this is where i had the random crypt labels |
| 04:21.42 | kd3 | that should be tol barad's 3 quest hubs? |
| 04:21.54 | Semlar | ahhhhh |
| 04:22.06 | kd3 | even though they're actually on a separate map, they're probably still on the azeroth map too |
| 04:22.32 | Semlar | they aren't supposed to be but i think you're right |
| 04:23.01 | Semlar | that's where tb would be |
| 04:23.44 | Semlar | the other transformed maps just have their stuff in the same instance with the terrain |
| 04:24.17 | Semlar | it's possibly even just leftover dev stuff for it |
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| 04:30.02 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/EvcCsJO.jpg this is all the stuff under karazhan |
| 04:31.03 | kd3 | oh, yeah, that stuff was creepy. you used to be able to res on the other side of the gate to see it all |
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| 04:35.07 | mikma | semlar: there should be a sunken island near tanaris... unless they removed if in cata |
| 04:35.35 | kd3 | for the aq gate-opening quest? it got removed in 4.0 with the shattering |
| 04:36.21 | mikma | i don't know was it ever used |
| 04:37.21 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/Quest:Draconic_for_Dummies / http://www.wowpedia.org/Quest:rAnS0m |
| 04:38.41 | mikma | hmm no |
| 04:38.59 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/File:TanarisMinimap.png?c=1 those? |
| 04:39.30 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/RAi6RTk.jpg |
| 04:40.10 | mikma | kd3: the islands? no :P |
| 04:40.34 | mikma | all i know is that there was a complete village under water somewhere |
| 04:40.40 | Semlar | where |
| 04:40.58 | Semlar | i mean there are buildings that appear to be in the ocean |
| 04:41.58 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/gPjIcRq.jpg these are in the south east area of the other image |
| 04:42.05 | kd3 | steamwheedle port post-shattering is now underwater |
| 04:42.35 | nebula169 | thats why you never buy ocean view real estate from a goblin |
| 04:43.14 | mikma | maybe they removed it, who knows. worktime -> |
| 04:43.18 | Semlar | this'll only have anything with an actual indoor minimap though |
| 04:43.25 | Semlar | so who knows |
| 04:44.36 | kd3 | oh, blah. tired all of a sudden |
| 04:44.57 | Semlar | probably all that horsin around |
| 04:45.06 | Semlar | dammit he left |
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| 04:56.28 | Semlar | alright, i'm pretty sure the junk in front of orgrimmar's gate is actually the tunnel that's supposed to go through it |
| 04:56.34 | Semlar | and it's just not in the right spot |
| 04:58.17 | Semlar | which isn't really a good sign |
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| 05:56.27 | karl_w_w | here's what i want: a service where you rate movies and it matches you up with the rotten tomatoes critic that you agree with most |
| 05:57.35 | Fisker | i can't murder you karl_w_w |
| 05:58.28 | karl_w_w | thats a shame |
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| 06:05.47 | Neffi | I want a service that discards critics' opinions from RT and MC based on how well they rate overrated and shitty movies |
| 06:06.08 | Neffi | I'd call it AccuRate |
| 06:06.11 | Mr_Rabies | "top critics" is pretty decent, but you have to understand how critics work |
| 06:06.22 | Mr_Rabies | they don't much tend to like sci fi movies, as a start |
| 06:06.39 | karl_w_w | I'd call it HipsteRate |
| 06:06.42 | Neffi | As in, that they're essentially getting paid to watch movies and pretend to be inaccessibly smarter than anyone else who watches movies? |
| 06:08.01 | Mr_Rabies | you just have to understand that some movies won't rate well with critics, regardless of quality |
| 06:08.07 | Neffi | Or that most of them just circlejerk over each other's opinions? |
| 06:08.11 | Mr_Rabies | and some will be generally way overrated, regardless of quality |
| 06:08.28 | Mr_Rabies | another example: spielberg movies will almost always be rated really high, regardless of the movie's quality |
| 06:08.39 | Neffi | So will anything by Tarantino |
| 06:08.40 | Mr_Rabies | not to say spielberg makes or produces very many bad movies |
| 06:08.45 | Mr_Rabies | but there are some real stinkers |
| 06:10.38 | Mr_Rabies | i personally love every tarantino movie, so i can't disagree with critics there |
| 06:12.34 | Neffi | Regardless, I think we can all agree... Leonardo should have a damn Oscar already |
| 06:16.20 | karl_w_w | best example of a critics' movie is phone booth |
| 06:16.44 | karl_w_w | it was just so boring but critics loved it cos it hit home with them personally |
| 06:17.21 | Neffi | with Colin Farrel? |
| 06:17.48 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 06:18.27 | Neffi | I think it was kind of cheap TBH. I like Colin and all, but when the only thing your movie offers is "that one good actor" it's pointless (eg Taken). I'm shocked critics liked it. |
| 06:18.43 | Neffi | I assumed it turned over poorly in the reception until I just looked it up |
| 06:29.46 | durcyn | considering the academy voters are overwhelmingly old white men, fuck the whole thing |
| 06:30.09 | Neffi | What would cause screen tearing on LAV decoder / madVR renderer in *only* the top 50 pixels of the screen? |
| 06:30.56 | Neffi | I've tweaked just about everything. GPU usage never spikes to 100% with my settings, and pulling down the scaling to bring GPU strain to much more modest levels doesn't fix it. |
| 06:36.24 | Mr_Rabies | i personally immediately assume the movie's bad if colin farrell's in it, myself |
| 06:36.58 | Mr_Rabies | i hear in bruges is good |
| 06:37.16 | Mr_Rabies | i liked a bridge too far |
| 06:37.33 | Mr_Rabies | but, as a rule, colin farrell movies tend to be star-studded groanfests |
| 06:38.17 | Neffi | Aye. Never liked him myself because of that. His most memorable roles are his worst. |
| 06:38.35 | Neffi | But he ain't a bad actor. Seven Psychopaths was good, and he did pretty well in it. |
| 06:40.23 | Neffi | When a DoT ticks, is the spell ID in CLEU the same as the spell ID when its removed? |
| 06:40.33 | Neffi | Eg can I track when a DoT ends by SPELL_AURA_REMOVED? |
| 06:41.04 | Semlar | it might depend on the dot |
| 06:41.05 | Neffi | (Assuming I begin tracking the DoT by SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE) |
| 06:41.37 | Neffi | Ugh. I will need to test it then. Trying to do a "you have a DoT; don't stealth" notification icon on my UFs for rogues/druids |
| 06:41.38 | Semlar | i THINK it's the same |
| 06:41.47 | Semlar | but i don't want to say for sure because i'm not certain |
| 06:42.11 | Neffi | If it turns out not to be, I sure hope spellName is always the same. Else it'll be damn annoying. |
| 06:42.31 | Neffi | ---that won't work either, I think Garrote's silence has the same name as its DoT |
| 06:43.01 | Semlar | its dot lasts longer than its silence though doesn't it |
| 06:43.25 | Neffi | Which is why its silence ending will trigger AURA_REMOVED and cause my tracking logic to think I dont have the DoT anymore |
| 06:43.34 | Semlar | oh |
| 06:43.38 | Semlar | i see |
| 06:43.43 | Neffi | and I can't assume the first aura removed is always a false positive, because DR means it wont always be applied |
| 06:44.15 | Neffi | I'll just have to test this thoroughly in BGs |
| 06:44.52 | Semlar | but you could just loop through the auras on you to check if you still have it |
| 06:45.17 | Semlar | if you check after aura_removed |
| 06:45.28 | Semlar | and you still have a debuff with the same name |
| 06:45.48 | karl_w_w | the id is the same |
| 06:46.01 | Neffi | Which would be annoying. Also I'd then have to consider the performance of my implementation. |
| 06:46.52 | karl_w_w | and i think garotte's silence is called garotte silence or something |
| 06:48.12 | karl_w_w | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=1330 mad? |
| 06:49.31 | Neffi | pleased |
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| 07:21.16 | karl_w_w | what is a bond? |
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| 07:21.28 | karl_w_w | like if i was going to hire a car and they say the bond is $500 |
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| 07:33.13 | Semlar | talking cars cost extra |
| 07:33.39 | karl_w_w | very helpful :P |
| 07:33.55 | Semlar | hey, you're the one looking to hire a car |
| 07:33.57 | Neffi | Apparently your car comes with a British special ops agent for a small additional fee |
| 07:34.59 | Semlar | isn't a bond like an IOU |
| 07:35.46 | karl_w_w | i have literally 25 minutes to work out if i need $500 in my account |
| 07:36.35 | Neffi | then you should probably make sure you have $500 in your account |
| 07:36.38 | Semlar | if it's an option i would just do it |
| 07:36.43 | Semlar | just in case |
| 07:37.00 | karl_w_w | i can't magic money from nowhere :D |
| 07:37.08 | Semlar | well then it doesn't really matter |
| 07:38.21 | karl_w_w | yes it does |
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| 07:58.05 | karl_w_w | well my main man the bank man said it should be ok |
| 07:58.14 | karl_w_w | and my bank has never let me down before |
| 07:58.28 | karl_w_w | so it'll probably start now! |
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| 09:45.34 | zenzio | "What's wrong with plain old garden variety FTP (File Transfer Protocol), or even TFTP (Trivial File Transfer Protocol)? Granted, they're older than your father's memory of his first kiss, but they still work." |
| 09:46.24 | karl_w_w | i dont know, what is wrong with them? |
| 09:46.58 | nevcairiel | security mostly |
| 09:47.52 | zenzio | in this case someone just wanted to transfer files between clients, and wondered if HTTP or some custom implementation would be better |
| 09:48.48 | xyphoid | ftp is a pain in the ass to set up though with passive vs active |
| 09:49.01 | nevcairiel | not really |
| 09:49.53 | nevcairiel | its only a problem if both your machines are behind a NAT, and then, many NATs support ftp connection tracking, and can actually rewrite the passive address in the ftp packets to match the external ones |
| 09:50.48 | xyphoid | which is a whole lot more annoying than scp/sftp |
| 09:52.07 | nevcairiel | the point is, in most setups it just works |
| 09:53.17 | karl_w_w | if it's not a regular transfer, easiest way is to just make a private torrent |
| 09:53.36 | nevcairiel | how is that easy in any way? :p |
| 09:54.13 | karl_w_w | cos u make the torrent in 1 step, send the torrent, it downloads |
| 09:54.19 | karl_w_w | huzzah job done? |
| 09:54.50 | karl_w_w | rock solid resumability and hash checking built in |
| 09:54.58 | karl_w_w | no pissing about with firewalls |
| 09:55.28 | nevcairiel | oh right because torrent just magically avoids any firewall |
| 09:55.56 | nevcairiel | the data still has to go through a firewall, torrent doesnt help you there, in fact its probably even worse because many corporate-type firewalls block p2p :P |
| 09:55.57 | karl_w_w | pmuch |
| 09:57.14 | wereHamster | nevcairiel: the data goes through the ether. No firewall involved at any point! |
| 09:57.30 | wereHamster | there is a whole network in the ether. It's called ethernet. |
| 09:57.39 | xyphoid | 'pff, just attach it to an email' |
| 09:57.55 | wereHamster | or a pigeon. |
| 09:58.14 | karl_w_w | use smoke signals |
| 09:58.14 | nevcairiel | attaching a small usb drive to a pigeon isnt the worst of things to do |
| 10:04.08 | karl_w_w | hack into the street lighting and transmit over that |
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| 11:29.39 | Adys | why doesn't the engineering corner in seven stars have a forge :( |
| 11:32.15 | zenzio | they didn't want to spoil the engineers |
| 11:32.28 | zenzio | since their profession is already the least tedious ;-o |
| 11:33.31 | znf | Adys, doesn't the thermal anvil act as a forge? |
| 11:33.46 | Adys | sure but there isnt one there either :( |
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| 11:36.24 | Kalroth | Lizard h8s engineers!!11 |
| 11:41.29 | znf | Adys, buy one, then |
| 11:41.35 | znf | or make one |
| 11:41.43 | Adys | i have one |
| 11:41.48 | Adys | i just want a permanent one there. |
| 11:42.12 | Adys | i mean theres a forge just one room away so its not exactly an issue |
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| 11:47.12 | tabletenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:47.46 | tabletenn | * I would like to set my focus to be my target's *target |
| 11:51.46 | bluworkcow | a nacro? |
| 11:51.54 | bluworkcow | is that where you have a macro that cooks a taco ? |
| 11:52.36 | tabletenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:52.59 | tabletenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:54.19 | bluworkcow | not sure |
| 11:54.31 | bluworkcow | there maybe a [hostile] trigger you can put on it |
| 11:54.47 | bluworkcow | depends what you mean by "conditionally" |
| 11:55.01 | zenzio | /focus [harm]targettarget |
| 11:55.13 | zenzio | according to www.macroexplain.com that should work |
| 11:55.38 | tabletenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:55.39 | bluworkcow | yeah [harm] should do it according to http://www.wowpedia.org/Making_a_macro (look under Macro Options) |
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| 12:31.15 | karl_w_w | lua> 0.4*.4 |
| 12:31.16 | lua_bot | karl_w_w: 0.16 |
| 12:53.07 | tabletenn | 1÷0 |
| 12:53.35 | tabletenn | lua> 1÷0 |
| 12:53.36 | lua_bot | tabletenn: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '1' |
| 12:55.40 | F16Gaming | lua> 1/0 |
| 12:55.41 | lua_bot | F16Gaming: inf |
| 12:55.49 | F16Gaming | lua> 0/0 |
| 12:55.49 | lua_bot | F16Gaming: -nan |
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| 13:17.44 | Neffi | hmm |
| 13:17.53 | Neffi | WoW doesn't give nan for 0/0 |
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| 13:50.24 | karl_w_w | lua> sqrt(-1) |
| 13:50.24 | lua_bot | karl_w_w: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'sqrt' (a nil value) |
| 13:50.34 | karl_w_w | lua> math.sqrt(-1) |
| 13:50.34 | lua_bot | karl_w_w: -nan |
| 13:52.27 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet, our soccer team hazing made it into the Wall Street Journal. Why on EARTH do they care about college soccer? |
| 13:56.02 | karl_w_w | "This site contains images of deceased persons. Some images may be sensitive or sacred to some visitors." odd thing to find at the bottom of a young people's learning website |
| 14:03.44 | zenzio | maybe they meant diseased |
| 14:04.04 | Lopeppeppy | Sacred? Like holy deceased people? |
| 14:11.17 | Neffi | It's a universal rule that all soup cans lie |
| 14:11.45 | Semlar | how does that make you feel |
| 14:11.51 | Lopeppeppy | In.... what way, Neffi? |
| 14:11.58 | Lopeppeppy | considers increasing Neffi's medications. |
| 14:12.31 | Neffi | This "italian vegetable" soup sounds really good, supposedly packed with zucchini. I open it to find a single sliver of zucchini, what you might cut off the edge of one slice when you skin it, in the whole can. |
| 14:12.54 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, yeah, the ingredients. |
| 14:12.54 | Neffi | But tons of pasta. Because pasta's cheap. |
| 14:14.00 | Neffi | Lopeppeppy: Talking soup cans are notoriously honest. Its the silent variety you need to watch out for. |
| 14:14.55 | karl_w_w | that's a misnomer Neffi |
| 14:15.02 | karl_w_w | all soup cans can talk |
| 14:15.04 | Neffi | Notoriously? |
| 14:15.11 | Neffi | Oh that part. |
| 14:15.33 | Neffi | Yeah, that is unless you rip out their tongues. Progresso does that. Having your soup can talk to you would be creepy. |
| 14:16.02 | Lopeppeppy | I always liked it when Aunt Jemima came off the bottle at breakfast time. |
| 14:16.16 | karl_w_w | what's the matter, can got your tongue? |
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| 14:22.32 | Semlar | http://www.imageslime.com/img/Darkmoon-Deathmatch-wow-2936.jpg ah, it doesn't look like the darkmoon deathmatch tent has an indoor minimap |
| 14:22.50 | Semlar | i thought something might be wrong |
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| 14:28.56 | karl_w_w | Ohai laughs at you. |
| 14:29.02 | karl_w_w | You gonna take that? |
| 14:29.12 | karl_w_w | He be dissin you son. |
| 14:30.00 | Neffi | oh my holy lord |
| 14:30.24 | Neffi | Disney is rehashing Wizard of Oz into an unholy travesty of cinematic abortion |
| 14:30.32 | Neffi | Somebody needs to stop them |
| 14:30.45 | karl_w_w | oh shiiit I know di'n jus take the lord's name in vain |
| 14:31.24 | Neffi | The lord likes to take mine in vein, so I take the opportunity to return the favor |
| 14:31.34 | karl_w_w | that Oz something something movie? it has that guy in it, so he might save it |
| 14:31.36 | Neffi | s/vein/vain/ |
| 14:31.43 | Lopeppeppy | It's been done a few times, Neffi. But nothing will ever be better than the original. |
| 14:31.57 | karl_w_w | the original was pants |
| 14:32.06 | Neffi | Except this has CGI to convince people it is, Lopeppeppy |
| 14:32.21 | Lopeppeppy | I bet it will have 3D too. |
| 14:32.30 | Lopeppeppy | I saw Wizard of Oz porn once, scarred me for life. |
| 14:32.51 | karl_w_w | alice in wonderland > with of oz |
| 14:32.55 | Neffi | It has sparkly green balls of magic shooting out of witches hands. Of course it has 3D. |
| 14:33.00 | karl_w_w | or, if you prefer, wizard |
| 14:33.27 | karl_w_w | yeah its 3d |
| 14:33.36 | karl_w_w | but then so was um |
| 14:33.43 | karl_w_w | tries to think of good 3d film |
| 14:33.47 | Neffi | karl_w_w: Alice was awesome. Disney's didn't quite capture the books though -- IMO. They were much more interesting. |
| 14:33.51 | karl_w_w | the avengers |
| 14:33.55 | karl_w_w | life of pi |
| 14:35.24 | karl_w_w | avatar! |
| 14:36.14 | Neffi | You mean Dances with Smurfs or Airbenders Gone Brown? |
| 14:36.28 | Neffi | Both were travesties in the faces of the original |
| 14:36.32 | karl_w_w | omg was the last airbender as well?! |
| 14:36.41 | Neffi | s/airbenders/firebenders/ |
| 14:37.05 | karl_w_w | but really i said avatar cos i cant think of any other good 3d movies |
| 14:37.14 | karl_w_w | but im sure there must be some |
| 14:38.02 | Neffi | Never got to see the Hobbit, but I sure hope it's good |
| 14:38.03 | Lopeppeppy | Avatar did have some nice effects in it. But overall... 3D is just a waste of my money. |
| 14:38.40 | karl_w_w | 3d doesnt usually cost more here |
| 14:38.47 | karl_w_w | other than $1 for glasses |
| 14:39.18 | Neffi | Anyway, why is Kiefer Sutherland always out of breath? |
| 14:39.25 | Lopeppeppy | My tickets for 3D can be 3-7 more, very not worth it. |
| 14:39.27 | karl_w_w | and i still have my harry potter styled 3d glasses from opening night of one of the movies i dont remember which :P |
| 14:39.48 | Neffi | Harry Potter movies were great. Didn't know they made 'em in 3D. |
| 14:39.53 | karl_w_w | he's a bad actor Neffi |
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| 14:40.05 | karl_w_w | he doesnt know how to look tired so he has to breathe it |
| 14:40.12 | karl_w_w | it's his signature now |
| 14:40.25 | zenzio | at least he's better than Keanu and Seagal |
| 14:40.25 | Neffi | Why would he be tired after turning his head to look at the person next to him? |
| 14:40.26 | karl_w_w | that and causing people around him to come into harm's way |
| 14:40.29 | Neffi | Or eating? |
| 14:40.38 | zenzio | Neffi: maybe he learned acting from Caruso |
| 14:41.02 | zenzio | wait, was that the name |
| 14:41.15 | zenzio | yeah, it was |
| 14:41.17 | karl_w_w | you can't teach acting zenzio, you have to wear it like sunglasses |
| 14:41.20 | karl_w_w | YEAHHHHHH |
| 14:41.22 | Neffi | I would argue Keanu is better. Only because he's so depressing he's spawned a meme. |
| 14:41.27 | zenzio | karl_w_w: lol |
| 14:41.28 | Neffi | Jack Bauer is just bad |
| 14:42.07 | karl_w_w | they're all bad |
| 14:42.10 | zenzio | damnit, I confused Kiefer with that Captain Winters guy from Band of Brothers again... I seem to do that all the time, yet I don't know why |
| 14:42.16 | karl_w_w | you have to wonder how they got jobs ever |
| 14:42.38 | karl_w_w | well, keanu was good in bill and ted obviously, but not in serious roles |
| 14:43.04 | Neffi | I do wonder |
| 14:43.17 | zenzio | "Damian Lewis" vs "Kiefer Sutherland"... confusing those names take some skill |
| 14:43.33 | zenzio | karl_w_w: perhaps he spent all his talent on that movie |
| 14:46.14 | karl_w_w | why the hell has joel madden invaded australia |
| 14:48.25 | Lopeppeppy | He heard that kangaroo was nutritious? |
| 15:00.27 | karl_w_w | he was on the voice australia last year |
| 15:01.05 | karl_w_w | and now he seems to be the face of vodafone and he's doing kfc ads with his brother |
| 15:01.47 | karl_w_w | im sure the majority of people dont know who he is and even less like any song he ever made |
| 15:02.00 | karl_w_w | but he's american and he has tattoos so he much be cool i guess |
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| 15:29.47 | TC-work | http://www.teefury.com/ a mashup of dr. who and firefly.....I think that will do well. |
| 15:31.16 | Fisker | all we need is j.j abrams star trek |
| 15:33.39 | karl_w_w | oh good a reference to the worst firefly episode |
| 15:35.30 | pompy | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/22/montana-roadkill-bill-_n_2742711.html ... |
| 15:35.51 | Kraps | where can i see the wow tcg cards and what they look like |
| 15:37.03 | karl_w_w | on the internet |
| 15:37.13 | Kraps | where on the on the internet |
| 15:38.08 | Lopeppeppy | Pompy, that bill makes sense. What it costs to dispose of the large animals is just insane. Where I came from, if you had a deer tag, the trooper would more often than not send the deer home with you. |
| 15:38.55 | Kraps | karl_w_w, something like this http://magiccards.info/ |
| 15:39.23 | karl_w_w | i imagine so, yes :P |
| 15:40.23 | Kraps | yessssssss |
| 15:40.28 | Kraps | where is it |
| 15:43.25 | karl_w_w | http://www.wowtcgame.com/ ? |
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| 15:47.07 | kd3 | we don't have all of them, but http://www.wowpedia.org/TCG |
| 15:47.14 | kd3 | there's external links to other sources |
| 15:47.19 | Kraps | looks like it hasent been updated in decades |
| 15:47.57 | Kraps | oh thanks |
| 15:48.42 | foxlit | Hm, how do I (efficiently) map slash commands back to their handler keys? |
| 15:50.48 | foxlit | like /cast to CAST, or /чат_подземелья to INSTANCE_CHAT? |
| 15:51.38 | nevcairiel | isnt there a table you can walk through? |
| 15:52.07 | nevcairiel | slash commands are all handled in Lua, so there must be |
| 15:52.19 | foxlit | _G. |
| 15:52.47 | nevcairiel | how does the chat code do it then? |
| 15:52.48 | nevcairiel | do that |
| 15:52.49 | nevcairiel | :p |
| 15:53.04 | nevcairiel | i think it hashes the info into an internal table |
| 15:53.50 | foxlit | things got complicated some time in the last few major patches. |
| 15:54.06 | foxlit | secure commands live in a separate, private table. |
| 15:54.59 | foxlit | insecure commands are imported and shuffled into some metaindex. |
| 15:55.57 | foxlit | Looking at it again, hash_ChatTypeInfoList does precisely what I want. |
| 15:56.17 | nevcairiel | let me guess, its file local? :p |
| 15:56.22 | foxlit | no |
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| 15:57.53 | foxlit | Might be out of sync, but ChatFrame_ImportAllListsToHash fixes that. It'll probably work! |
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| 16:03.01 | foxlit | and emotes are weird. |
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| 16:09.47 | Fisker | punches kd3 |
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| 16:51.54 | TC-work | Fisker Fisker Fisker |
| 16:52.44 | Kalroth | mushroom mushroom |
| 16:53.04 | Lopeppeppy | A snaaaaaake! |
| 16:55.29 | Unkle | badger, badger, badger. |
| 16:56.53 | TC-work | Whelp, I have been at work for 2 hours so far and I'm bored. |
| 17:01.44 | Lopeppeppy | Me too. Let's run away to Bolivia. |
| 17:06.03 | TC-work | Is it less boring in Bolivia? |
| 17:06.37 | Unkle | Once you run out of new things to see and stop being frustrated by the language difference, yes. |
| 17:06.44 | Unkle | er, no. |
| 17:07.51 | TC-work | http://kotaku.com/5986648/voice-actress-invents-a-thong-that-turns-into-a-wristband-no-really |
| 17:10.38 | Lopeppeppy | Unkle just doesn't want to run away with me. *sniff sniff* |
| 17:10.58 | TC-work | But if you are just going to be as bored there as here.... |
| 17:11.15 | Unkle | Sure I do, just not Bolivia. I was thinking Belize. |
| 17:11.42 | TC-work | I want to do Ireland myself. |
| 17:12.06 | Unkle | That's a lot of doing. It's bigger than you think. |
| 17:12.54 | Lopeppeppy | Is there rum in Belize? |
| 17:13.11 | Unkle | Lopeppeppy: Plenty. |
| 17:13.22 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:13.42 | Lopeppeppy | Happy unbirthday, blueberry. |
| 17:13.49 | bluworkcow | hmmmm |
| 17:13.51 | Lopeppeppy | Then you may file a change of flight plan, Unkle. |
| 17:13.53 | bluworkcow | that was friday :) |
| 17:14.07 | bluworkcow | y Unkle flying? trouble with the missus again ? |
| 17:14.08 | Lopeppeppy | I know. I wasn't paying attention on Friday, apparently. |
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| 17:17.12 | Lopeppeppy | I think that it's a long swim through shark infested waters for him to get to Belize. |
| 17:19.28 | Fisker | TC-work |
| 17:19.29 | Fisker | TC-work |
| 17:19.40 | TC-work | I am summoned |
| 17:20.17 | Fisker | as were i |
| 17:26.45 | Lopeppeppy | No me! |
| 17:27.18 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:28.51 | Lopeppeppy | But. I like it. |
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| 18:02.19 | karl_w_w | aww such a touching tail of fish based love between Fisker and Lopeppeppy |
| 18:02.36 | karl_w_w | not long before we hear the pitter patter of weaponized sardines! |
| 18:02.48 | Lopeppeppy | Many species have gifting rituals as a part of courtship. |
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| 18:16.30 | Parnic | hey fisker what's Intel's next chip post-ivy bridge and do i want one? |
| 18:17.23 | Stanzilla | haswell |
| 18:17.24 | Stanzilla | and yes |
| 18:17.36 | Parnic | out already or due out this year? |
| 18:17.59 | Stanzilla | summer release |
| 18:18.19 | Parnic | thanks, pseudo-fisker. |
| 18:18.24 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 18:18.36 | Elkano | 28nm, new arch, right? |
| 18:19.09 | nevcairiel | 22nm, but yes, new arch |
| 18:19.19 | nevcairiel | its a "tock" |
| 18:19.39 | Stanzilla | oh man nebula169 |
| 18:19.41 | Stanzilla | damn |
| 18:19.42 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: |
| 18:19.49 | Stanzilla | who integrated harlem shake in the mpc hc website |
| 18:21.09 | Fisker | hey |
| 18:21.18 | Parnic | nevcairiel: i usually pick up "tocks". my purchase habits tend to end up with me buying new chips every other year |
| 18:21.50 | nevcairiel | i skipped ivy as well, i'll probably get a haswell as well |
| 18:21.53 | Fisker | i usually end up getting ticks, tocks then the previous tick as extreme edition then tick then previous tock |
| 18:22.48 | Semlar | wat |
| 18:22.53 | Parnic | fisker has infinite money |
| 18:22.57 | Stanzilla | he just said "I'm dumb" |
| 18:23.22 | Fisker | mad Stanzilla ? |
| 18:23.25 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: can you ask the guy if it is intentional or hacks? |
| 18:23.28 | Stanzilla | Fisker: nope, jelly |
| 18:23.31 | Fisker | k |
| 18:23.34 | Fisker | though really |
| 18:23.38 | Fisker | i had a i7 920 |
| 18:23.40 | Fisker | and i lost it |
| 18:23.44 | Fisker | it's still worth money :( |
| 18:23.49 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: some moron decided that its a good idea, but that guy is braindead anyway |
| 18:23.58 | Stanzilla | nice |
| 18:24.00 | Stanzilla | slap him for me please |
| 18:24.17 | Fisker | what does nevcairiel have to do with mpc hc? |
| 18:24.25 | Stanzilla | code |
| 18:24.26 | Fisker | and what is harlem shake? |
| 18:24.39 | Parnic | wait, seriously? |
| 18:24.42 | Fisker | can i love you nevcairiel ? |
| 18:24.56 | Fisker | yes Parnic ? |
| 18:25.07 | Parnic | i'm legit jealous of you right now fisker. |
| 18:25.15 | Parnic | i wish i was not in the know |
| 18:25.36 | Fisker | i don't do memes Parnic |
| 18:25.39 | nevcairiel | i found out what it is just last thursday because a friend of mine made its own video of it |
| 18:25.45 | nevcairiel | and had to show me :p |
| 18:25.56 | Parnic | wat fisker. you ONLY do memes |
| 18:26.14 | Fisker | those are not memes |
| 18:26.21 | Fisker | something is just seriously wrong with me |
| 18:26.31 | Parnic | a rare moment of clarity |
| 18:26.38 | Fisker | owned |
| 18:26.42 | Parnic | that was truly beautiful |
| 18:26.54 | Fisker | i want a i7-4770 with AMT |
| 18:27.03 | Fisker | can i get that on desktop nevcairiel ? |
| 18:27.07 | Parnic | "my name is fisker. and something is seriously wrong with me." *applause* |
| 18:27.51 | Fisker | setting up mcafee policies is an exercise in futility |
| 18:28.01 | nevcairiel | if the 4770 is one of the cpus with AMT unlocked, then you just need to hope for someone to build a board |
| 18:28.29 | Fisker | i believe basically all of them have it |
| 18:28.34 | Fisker | it's just a matter of the motherboard |
| 18:28.40 | nevcairiel | its disabled in the K's i think |
| 18:28.45 | Fisker | so either expensive workstation/server or motherboard |
| 18:28.47 | Fisker | err |
| 18:28.49 | Fisker | laptop |
| 18:29.10 | Stanzilla | what do you need amt for? |
| 18:29.41 | nevcairiel | i like having it in my server, but i wouldnt really aim for it in my desktop |
| 18:29.43 | Fisker | yeah k's doesn't have nevcairiel |
| 18:29.51 | Fisker | what don't i need it for Stanzilla ? |
| 18:30.13 | Stanzilla | I guess I don't really understand what it is used for |
| 18:30.18 | Stanzilla | example please |
| 18:30.18 | Parnic | that's cool. searching for AMT on google returns nothing but pages and pages of Amtrak results |
| 18:30.30 | nevcairiel | search for intel amt |
| 18:30.35 | Parnic | ah, google auto-completed for me. thanks, google |
| 18:30.49 | nevcairiel | it does that a lot, quite annoying sometimes |
| 18:30.55 | Fisker | it's awesome Stanzilla |
| 18:31.06 | Fisker | like being able to remote manage the computer at a hardware level |
| 18:31.08 | Stanzilla | tell me more :p |
| 18:31.18 | Stanzilla | so you can change uefi settings etc? |
| 18:31.23 | Fisker | yeah |
| 18:31.28 | Fisker | i think you can even remotely load an iso to it |
| 18:31.30 | Stanzilla | ok that is neat |
| 18:31.31 | Fisker | if you have the connection |
| 18:31.31 | nevcairiel | limited though |
| 18:31.41 | nevcairiel | yeah remote booting of isos is neat |
| 18:31.49 | Parnic | in other words: everyone can get a full takeover of fisker's new computer |
| 18:32.00 | nevcairiel | it can even remote boot from a samba share, i installed windows server on my server system like that :p |
| 18:32.39 | nevcairiel | on my servers board its only enabled on a dedicated lan port, not over the main port |
| 18:32.53 | nevcairiel | so you can establish any kind of physical or vlan security you want |
| 18:33.14 | nevcairiel | anyhow, my food is about ready |
| 18:33.18 | nevcairiel | goes munching |
| 18:36.08 | Fisker | i like google+ Stanzilla |
| 18:36.11 | Fisker | it's exciting |
| 18:36.17 | Fisker | google play posts something |
| 18:36.31 | Fisker | 75% of comments are "when is google play coming to <insert country>" |
| 18:38.11 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 18:38.58 | Fisker | i want my surface pro though Stanzilla |
| 18:44.45 | Fisker | btw Parnic |
| 18:45.06 | Parnic | yes? |
| 18:45.27 | Fisker | i forgot :( |
| 18:46.08 | Fisker | i want skylake |
| 18:48.04 | Fisker | i remembered! |
| 18:48.08 | Fisker | but it has nothing to do with you :/ |
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| 19:06.05 | TC-work | http://kotaku.com/5986744/finally-a-game-for-the-crazy-cat-lady-in-all-of-us >.< |
| 19:08.11 | TC-work | two years Fisker, two years |
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| 19:36.12 | Diesal_ | does anyone know of a quick way to limit frame dragging to one axis |
| 19:36.41 | Parnic | forcibly push the frame back to a known Y value as it's dragged, maybe? |
| 19:36.56 | bleeter | behold! cwgabriel's shocking usage of apostrophes as he reviews the RT Pro (http://www.penny-arcade.com/2013/02/22/the-ms-surface-pro ) (he also reviews the RT Pro and talks about gaming on it) |
| 19:37.06 | Semlar | you could use SetPoint and only modify the axis you want onupdate |
| 19:37.22 | Parnic | bleeter: he's an artist, we can't expect him to use proper grammar ;) |
| 19:37.59 | bleeter | Parnic: ZING! ;) |
| 19:38.39 | Diesal_ | yeah ive tried that, but you physicaly pick up the frame when dragging casuing setpoint to do nothing visually... |
| 19:38.46 | Diesal_ | think i might have to play around with setclampinsets on drag start |
| 19:39.15 | Semlar | i meant just use setpoint, don't let the client handle dragging |
| 19:39.18 | Diesal_ | does anyone know where the codebase is for blizzard slider widget? |
| 19:39.39 | Diesal_ | oh true @ semlar |
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| 19:40.09 | Semlar | slider appears to be an actual widget |
| 19:40.34 | Semlar | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Slider |
| 19:41.17 | Eridius | Diesal_: what if you don't register for dragging at all but just use OnMouseDown/OnMouseUp to implement your own drag? |
| 19:41.33 | Diesal_ | yeah thats what im going to have to do eririus |
| 19:41.37 | Diesal_ | eridius |
| 19:42.10 | Semlar | i think SetClampRectInsets is probably going to be more efficient |
| 19:42.14 | Diesal_ | i would use the the actual widget slider but i want pixel perfect placement |
| 19:42.47 | Lopeppeppy | oh jebus, are you Jelly's sibling? |
| 19:42.53 | Diesal_ | yeah taht what i was thinking as well semlar, setting that on dragstart based off the screnheight and width |
| 19:44.32 | Diesal_ | built a fully functioning table explorer much like an eclipse wariable debugger inside of wow , just putting the finishing touches on it |
| 19:44.39 | Diesal_ | variable* |
| 19:45.41 | Diesal_ | makes it ten times easier exploring an addons full environment table |
| 19:46.57 | Diesal_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:34.26 | F16Gaming | lua> ("2x^2+2x+2=0"):match("^(%d+)x\^2\+(%d+)x\+2=0$") |
| 20:34.26 | lua_bot | F16Gaming: nil |
| 20:34.31 | F16Gaming | dafuq |
| 20:36.45 | foxlit | garbage in, garbage out, F16Gaming. |
| 20:37.03 | F16Gaming | it won't accept escaped plus signs :/ |
| 20:37.23 | F16Gaming | lua> ("2x^2+2x+2=0"):match("^(%d+)x\^2[+](%d+)x[+]2=0$") |
| 20:37.24 | lua_bot | F16Gaming: 2, 2 |
| 20:37.35 | F16Gaming | that works |
| 20:37.40 | foxlit | that's not how you escape things in lua patterns. |
| 20:37.46 | Diesal_ | ^ |
| 20:37.51 | F16Gaming | bah |
| 20:37.52 | F16Gaming | was it %? |
| 20:38.02 | F16Gaming | lua> ("2x^2+2x+2=0"):match("^(%d+)x%^2%+(%d+)x%+2=0$") |
| 20:38.02 | Diesal_ | yeah |
| 20:38.02 | lua_bot | F16Gaming: 2, 2 |
| 20:38.06 | F16Gaming | bleh |
| 20:38.13 | F16Gaming | why can't they just use regex like regular languages |
| 20:38.54 | Diesal_ | its too much overhaed apprantly |
| 20:39.20 | Diesal_ | there are c extensions for pearl regex support in lua |
| 20:39.44 | F16Gaming | which totally works in wow |
| 20:39.45 | F16Gaming | :P |
| 20:39.55 | Diesal_ | yeah sucks eh |
| 20:40.23 | F16Gaming | i think i saw a pure lua implementation of it |
| 20:41.30 | Diesal_ | useful but not if what you need done is time critical |
| 20:43.20 | Diesal_ | if alot of serialization within the wow sandbox and ive never really needed more then the lua regex system can handle |
| 20:43.37 | Diesal_ | i* |
| 21:02.15 | Torhal|work | F16Gaming: The smallest implementation of Regex is larger than all of Lua itself. |
| 21:03.09 | Torhal|work | Unlike several other scripting languages, Lua does not use POSIX regular expressions (regexp) for pattern matching. The main reason for this is size: A typical implementation of POSIX regexp takes more than 4,000 lines of code. This is bigger than all Lua standard libraries together. In comparison, the implementation of pattern matching in Lua has less than 500 lines. Of course, the pattern matching in Lua cannot do all that a full POSIX |
| 21:03.09 | Torhal|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:05.23 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V2akDW9GK8 |
| 21:05.25 | foxlit | approximately one feature. |
| 21:05.42 | Diesal_ | needless to say i form most of my more complex regex queries in regexbuddy, would be nice if they would include luas flavor |
| 21:08.42 | foxlit | Lua's patterns can be described on a napkin |
| 21:09.00 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:11.54 | Diesal_ | your complex and my complex must have 2 different meanings, will agree to disagree |
| 21:14.09 | foxlit | We might be thinking of different things entirely -- regex is complex (to the point of potentially benefitting from software tools), while lua patterns are simple. |
| 21:15.28 | Diesal_ | agreed, i was talking more using pearl flavours with Positive and Negative Lookahead, bundled with if,then else clauses |
| 21:16.40 | Diesal_ | the only way i have implemented anything close to that is with pattern matching custom functions |
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| 21:58.12 | Neffi | If you absolutely need regex, aren't there Lua libs available that offer a full implementation? |
| 21:59.11 | Neffi | Also, if speed is unimportant you can implement additional stuff in pure Lua. The only downside being that it's going to be hugely inefficient because of how Lua interns strings. Doing a series of operations on a string to match complex patterns will create a shitload of garbage. |
| 21:59.45 | Neffi | If you're doing this in WoW, run that stuff in the background during downtime, or find another way. If you're doing it in embedded (eg smartphone), definitely find a library. |
| 22:01.07 | Neffi | (For reference, the Lua VM is less than 200K of RAM when fully loaded. This is mostly why they don't include regex. It's not just larger than all of Lua; it would hurt Lua's position as a good embedded scripting platform) |
| 22:01.28 | Dagmar | ...and people are insane about regexp hate |
| 22:03.00 | Neffi | Really? |
| 22:04.58 | Neffi | Well, school time. |
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