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| 00:18.26 | neutronimity | OK |
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| 00:28.17 | neutronimity | http://pastebin.com/GvPA3PH3 - this is a simple example macro (actually the one many randoms) that often breaks in combat. After a short screen freeze (which has mostly not happened for other break-occurences), the action bar button the macro is placed in, indicates being pressed, as is proper, but the macro itself does not launch any more for the remainder until a /console reloadui. |
| 00:29.23 | neutronimity | Any ideas? |
| 00:32.54 | p3lim | Don't suppose any of you know of some software to batch convert a bunch of video files from any codec/container to h264+mp4? |
| 00:36.08 | Semlar | neutronimity: have you considered making it fall back on your actual target because your lack of mouseover could be breaking it |
| 00:37.44 | neutronimity | Hmm. |
| 00:39.03 | neutronimity | I'll add in a []. |
| 00:39.04 | Semlar | or just removing that and seeing if it breaks |
| 00:39.35 | Semlar | because i've had startattack macroed into every one of my abilities so unless they changed something the only thing i could see being the problem is the target line |
| 00:39.46 | Kalroth | p3lim: Handbrake |
| 00:40.06 | Semlar | although startattack might have been after everything else |
| 00:40.26 | Semlar | i don't remember what order i had it in |
| 00:42.46 | neutronimity | Semlar - I will try with [] first. It breaks very, very randomly, sometimes not for hours, and then sometimes in the space of two minutes. |
| 00:43.21 | neutronimity | Most annoying was that I could not refresh Inquisition or use Judgement on Spirit Kings. - had to reload mid-fight. |
| 00:44.30 | p3lim | Kalroth: I'll take a look, thanks |
| 00:45.20 | neutronimity | By the way - dragging a copy of the broken macro from the macro window does not help also. On another button, it will also stay broken. |
| 00:45.29 | Semlar | have you checked if startattack is even still necessary? |
| 00:45.45 | Semlar | apparently in 5.0 every offensive melee ability calls it |
| 00:46.19 | neutronimity | Looking,. |
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| 00:48.01 | Semlar | don't quote me on that i'm just reading a random forum post |
| 00:48.17 | neutronimity | It does seem that my DK offensive abilities automatically call that. |
| 00:48.34 | kd3 | "apparently in 5.0 every offensive melee ability calls [/startattack]" - Semlar |
| 00:48.40 | Semlar | noo |
| 00:48.43 | Semlar | i said don't quote me! |
| 00:48.53 | Semlar | WHAT HAVE YOU DONE |
| 00:49.00 | kd3 | immortalized you |
| 00:49.09 | neutronimity | ~logs |
| 00:49.09 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://purl.rikers.org/%23wowuidev/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. |
| 00:49.18 | neutronimity | Sweetie. |
| 00:49.26 | Kalroth | honey. |
| 00:49.33 | kd3 | sugar |
| 00:49.37 | Semlar | tits |
| 00:49.49 | Kalroth | blue? |
| 00:49.56 | kd3 | don't think I've ever heard an older southern woman call someone "tits" |
| 00:50.19 | Kalroth | maybe if they spilled something |
| 00:50.36 | Kalroth | and if they were southern british |
| 00:50.40 | neutronimity | Semlar is a woman? |
| 00:50.56 | Semlar | i'm from the south |
| 00:51.18 | Semlar | i meet some of the criteria |
| 00:51.35 | neutronimity | I did not mean to match Sweetie to the female gender. |
| 00:52.18 | neutronimity | I'll sleep over that though, thanks. |
| 00:52.30 | neutronimity | Nn! |
| 00:52.47 | Semlar | think of me |
| 00:52.59 | neutronimity | Sorry. I am taken. |
| 00:53.08 | Semlar | you never know |
| 00:59.09 | p3lim | Kalroth: Handbrake worked perfectly, thanks for the tip |
| 00:59.17 | Kalroth | np :) |
| 01:08.29 | Stanzilla | can't believe how easy shado pan challenge mode is :o |
| 01:14.37 | p3lim | Queued up about 400 files now :] |
| 01:29.31 | znf | Any of you got experience with Cacti and custom graphs? |
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| 02:06.39 | Eridius | Torhal: please let me know if you get a chance to review my libqtip changes this weekend |
| 02:44.43 | kd3 | a bad day: http://i.imgur.com/ytH2x5K.jpg |
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| 02:53.41 | kd3 | in other news... slouken's been busy: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime |
| 02:54.43 | Cairenn|afk | hehehehe, that's standard slouken :) |
| 02:56.33 | Arrowmaster | kd3: im still not sure what it does |
| 02:57.11 | kd3 | from my cursory glance it looks like a standard runtime environment that devs can target that'll work win/osx/linux without much (any?) effort |
| 02:58.32 | Arrowmaster | it looks ubuntu specific to me |
| 02:58.39 | Arrowmaster | at least the build scripts |
| 02:59.06 | kd3 | like everything else. hopefully they'll tone down some of the ubuntuisms soon |
| 03:01.02 | Arrowmaster | i know slouken is probably their major linux dev on the team but imho they should have additionally hired somebody to purely do cross distro support |
| 03:01.55 | Arrowmaster | slouken doesnt seem that experienced in targeting distro standards |
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| 03:03.07 | kd3 | cripes... what's with the huge steam client updates lately? |
| 03:03.22 | tzarc | hmmm, just a few prerequisite packages on debian |
| 03:03.41 | tzarc | gonna make it just to have a fiddle :P |
| 03:04.22 | Arrowmaster | i need to check to see if they changed the package dependancies again to maybe make it installable on debian without modifications |
| 03:04.40 | tzarc | looks pretty similar to something I did when I wrote my my raspberry pi buildenv |
| 03:05.06 | tzarc | just... a bit more usable to the populous |
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| 03:32.55 | Arrowmaster | great, somehow suspending breaks my sound output so now the only way to fix it i can figure out is to reboot |
| 03:34.59 | Arrowmaster | ok its resuming from suspend with an audio cable plugged into the headphone jack that fucks up my sound |
| 03:35.27 | Arrowmaster | as strange as that sounds |
| 03:35.37 | Semlar | could be using the wrong device |
| 03:36.11 | Arrowmaster | if a cable is plugged into the headphone jack, audio playback is at an increased speed and is all distorted |
| 03:36.24 | Arrowmaster | so i suspended again, unplugged the cable, and resumed and it works |
| 03:36.32 | Semlar | regular headphones? |
| 03:36.38 | Semlar | or do they have a little box on them |
| 03:37.10 | Arrowmaster | no its a 3.5mm male to 3.5mm male cable plugging into my bigger speaker system |
| 03:37.11 | Semlar | some headphones have their own soundcards |
| 03:37.49 | Semlar | that sounds like an interesting problem |
| 03:38.09 | Arrowmaster | i want to blame pulseaudio because its easy to blame |
| 03:39.38 | Semlar | i want to blame obama |
| 03:47.04 | Amarande | Arrow: Linux? |
| 03:47.53 | Amarande | hmmmm |
| 03:47.59 | kd3 | if he's referencing pulseaudio... well, yes |
| 03:48.03 | Amarande | does plugging in the headphone jack cause Linux to see an additional sound device? |
| 03:48.16 | Amarande | I *DO* know that Linux is extremely fussy when it comes to there being multiple sound devices present |
| 03:48.49 | Amarande | I used to have a discrete sound card in my machine as a matter of course (mostly to mitigate repair issues in case a sound jack gets broken, as happened to my mic jack once) |
| 03:49.29 | Amarande | Then I got an Antec 300 Illusion case late in 2011, and tried to build a Linux machine with it and have both the onboard sound active (the sound card didn't have the right header for the front panel headphone jack that I wanted to be able to also use) |
| 03:49.38 | Amarande | and the discrete sound card present |
| 03:49.44 | Amarande | and it ended up being a nightmare, especially with wine |
| 03:50.13 | Amarande | the trouble is with multiple sound devices, it's basically Vegas which one the system regards as primary, and trying to override that on a Linux machine does not seem to work anywhere near so well as on Windows |
| 03:50.23 | Amarande | it's how I got Chipmunk Diablo in D2 on Wine, heh |
| 03:51.00 | Thunder_Child | use alasa? |
| 03:51.04 | Thunder_Child | alsa* |
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| 03:58.16 | Amarande | T_C: the trouble is that for some reason explicitly enumerating the sound devices ends up with them not quite configuring the same way as when it automatically does so |
| 03:58.26 | Amarande | I was never able to track down the issue, I asked #debian about it a long time ago |
| 03:58.34 | Amarande | man, sometimes I miss Linux. :( |
| 03:58.50 | Semlar|Laptop | mikma did you have any sort of idea how you wanted the gps thing to work |
| 03:59.15 | Amarande | hah, someone in /2 complained because they can't fish while swimming and went on about how wtf is with that |
| 03:59.27 | Amarande | I get the feeling this guy has probably never cast a line even once in their lifetime :P |
| 03:59.52 | Semlar|Laptop | on the other hand you can fish while sleeping |
| 04:00.35 | Amarande | that's a little more plausible than trying to cast a line without being anchored to any sort of solid base |
| 04:01.07 | Amarande | at least, fishing while laying down, not while actually sleeping :) |
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| 04:30.05 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: you can change the sound card priority using the module options, also multiple cards is one of the areas that pulseaudio handles a bit more userfriendly than plain alsa |
| 04:31.59 | Amarande | yay. time to sit in queue for BRD. |
| 04:37.41 | Amarande | ... and watch someone call me a dumbass because I refused to accept queuing for Multiple dungeons after the tank and healer ditched us. :| |
| 04:38.17 | Amarande | because you know there's a 60 in a BRD group because that 60 totally is willing to accept any dungeon in the level range. when someone's in at that level, they're in for a reason. |
| 04:39.36 | Amarande | oh wait, they were from Kel'Thuzad |
| 04:39.39 | Amarande | not surprised they acted like that |
| 04:39.50 | Amarande | it's pretty much the Mal'Ganis of alliance side heh |
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| 04:59.38 | Cairenn|afk | ahahaha |
| 04:59.39 | Cairenn|afk | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=463005427090571 |
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| 06:03.24 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn|afk: i found a way to take up all your time |
| 06:03.33 | Cairenn|afk | Oh? |
| 06:03.41 | Arrowmaster | http://explore.org/live-cams/player/indoor-puppy-room-great-dane-service-puppies-2 |
| 06:05.03 | Cairenn|afk | that's as good as http://new.livestream.com/FosterKittenCam |
| 06:05.45 | Arrowmaster | this one has 3 sets of puppies |
| 06:05.57 | Stanzilla | kittens > puppies |
| 06:07.04 | Arrowmaster | http://explore.org/live-cams/player/great-dane-service-puppies-indoor-puppy-room |
| 06:09.52 | Corv | I must be doing something dumb here. How in the world is one of the arguments to a sorting function nil? |
| 06:09.56 | Corv | http://pastebin.com/yC0rdpVg |
| 06:14.48 | Corv | (answer: I was doing something dumb)(problem solved) |
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| 06:32.22 | Eridius | Corv: I assume your sorting function was not total? |
| 06:32.54 | Eridius | I thought Lua was supposed to throw an error if you use a bad sorting function, but maybe that's in 5.2, because in my experience it just ends up passing nil to your function at some point if it's giving bad results |
| 06:37.45 | Corv | Yeah, I just figured that out the hard way. |
| 06:37.57 | Corv | Way to send the right error message. Augh. |
| 06:38.55 | Corv | Instead of "invalid order function for sorting" I was getting "attempt to index local 'a' (a nil value)" |
| 06:39.52 | Eridius | yeah, I got that when my sorting function said `return (ascending and a < b or a > b)` |
| 06:41.20 | Corv | Ooh. I like that phrasing better. |
| 06:41.31 | Eridius | Corv: um, that code is bad |
| 06:41.44 | Eridius | using and/or as a ternary doesn't work when you have false values... |
| 06:43.02 | Corv | Oh, bugger. Fine. It *looks* nice though. |
| 06:43.12 | Eridius | hehe |
| 06:43.19 | Eridius | this is why I wish Lua had a real ternary operator |
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| 07:18.35 | Semlar | Eridius: why didn't `return (ascending and a < b or a > b)` work for you? |
| 07:20.39 | Iriel | there's nothing on the "or" side to deactivate it |
| 07:20.52 | Iriel | the X and A or B works well as long as A and B can't be nil/false 8-) |
| 07:22.20 | Iriel | I dont see the obsession with avoiding if statements though |
| 07:22.32 | Iriel | if (ascending) { return a < b } else { return a > b } |
| 07:22.37 | Iriel | is not exactly hard to read |
| 07:22.44 | Semlar | short circuiting is cooler |
| 07:22.50 | Iriel | Semlar: only when it works. |
| 07:22.56 | Semlar | that's debatable |
| 07:22.57 | Iriel | Semlar: And that short circuits just as well |
| 07:23.31 | Iriel | "Playing tricks that use short circuiting to avoid writing an if statement" CAN be cool, sure, but it has to actually be correct. |
| 07:23.52 | Semlar | >_> |
| 07:23.58 | Iriel | You remind me of a co-worker from many years ago who said my replacement of his program was bad because it ran 10% slower. |
| 07:23.58 | Semlar | it's the thought that counts |
| 07:24.22 | Iriel | When the reason it ran slower was because it actually WORKED, and the original had been skipping huge chunks of work. |
| 07:25.38 | Semlar | i'm working on making one of my python scripts more efficient because it takes a half hour to execute |
| 07:26.12 | Semlar | i think it's paging memory and it's destroying the performance |
| 07:27.02 | Iriel | Hopefully python has reasonable profiling tools. |
| 07:28.11 | Semlar | it's not that big a deal though as long as it works |
| 07:28.23 | Semlar | it doesn't have to be run very often |
| 07:33.06 | Semlar | i can't figure out what determines whether a point in AreaPOI.dbc is actually returned by GetMapLandmarkInfo in game |
| 07:33.18 | Semlar | because some of them definitely aren't in the game |
| 07:34.12 | Semlar | or they might rely on certain conditions |
| 07:35.33 | Semlar | for example the cleft of shadow is in the poi dbc but the only landmark in orgrimmar is orgrimmar |
| 08:00.42 | Dagmar | Sweet mother of god. |
| 08:01.18 | Dagmar | So there was an incident previously known as "Codemas" where Ingress tested a promo thing and made the UPC codes for PopChips into item redemption codes. |
| 08:01.29 | Dagmar | People figured out real fast that the numbers were fairly sequential-ish. |
| 08:01.41 | Dagmar | Tonight they added the licence plate of every ZipCar. |
| 08:02.02 | Dagmar | About 1,400 cars. |
| 08:02.17 | Dagmar | Code redemption server has now burst into flames and filed a class action against the players. |
| 08:08.00 | Corv | Wait, what? |
| 08:09.04 | Dagmar | Probably several thousand people trying to redeem over a thousand item codes might have had something to do with it. |
| 08:09.20 | Dagmar | I managed to punch in about 200 or so before the whole thing went kablooey |
| 08:09.52 | Dagmar | I had to start dropping stuff on the ground here. I have two friends new to the game who will be lurking in my parking lot for awhile in the morning. |
| 08:10.22 | Corv | I think I just read the "filed a class action" thing a bit too literally. |
| 08:10.26 | Corv | I liked my version. |
| 08:10.26 | Dagmar | heheh |
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| 08:10.49 | Corv | "Wait, Ingress was secretly a breeding ground for an AI?" |
| 08:10.52 | Dagmar | That's enough codes for new people to hit the 2,000 item inventory limit |
| 08:10.58 | Corv | oh geez |
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| 08:11.22 | Dagmar | Tomorrow is going to be a BAD day for some people's portal farms |
| 08:11.24 | bluspacecow | Fanfictiondownloader0.7.2 needs to tighten up it's santizing |
| 08:11.50 | bluspacecow | hand it a file of links to download with a space in it and it resets the output form to w/e you have it to to Mobi |
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| 08:24.42 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/Mp5NFMe.jpg is this too much stuff going on |
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| 08:27.44 | Corv | Whatcha mean? |
| 08:28.16 | Semlar | i'm trying to decide how to display information about the subzones |
| 08:28.47 | Semlar | but i don't want it to be in the way |
| 08:29.06 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/dSL246q.jpg this is that with text |
| 08:29.29 | Corv | Yikes. All showing at once hurts. |
| 08:29.36 | Corv | Is this going to be interactive? |
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| 08:30.11 | Semlar | if you hover over a zone it should tell you what it is |
| 08:30.30 | Corv | What if you're hovering over a point contained in multiple zones? |
| 08:30.43 | Semlar | it should tell you every zone it's in |
| 08:30.57 | Semlar | presumably |
| 08:31.14 | Semlar | i was going to do some ray casting from the cursor |
| 08:31.31 | Semlar | figure out which regions it's inside |
| 08:31.47 | mikma | semlar: pretty much like it works now, + functions to add the point into tomtom |
| 08:31.47 | Corv | If you could highlight and label each region, it would look fine, I think. |
| 08:32.54 | Semlar | what about something like this http://i.imgur.com/b5ifR4r.jpg mikma |
| 08:33.48 | mikma | semlar: well, yeah. anything that'll point you there :D |
| 08:36.29 | Semlar | the other way i was thinking was just put an icon in the center of each region to identify its location which would be little less obtrusive |
| 08:36.54 | Semlar | but also not as informative as the outline |
| 08:37.27 | Corv | Outlines are great, they just need a bit of extra help when things like the Undercity happen |
| 08:38.11 | mikma | semlar: well either way is fine, have an option for the outline |
| 08:38.28 | Corv | (what is this for, by the way?) |
| 08:38.43 | Semlar | just a map addon |
| 08:39.01 | Semlar | this is probably just going to attach to the normal world map |
| 08:39.17 | Semlar | the terrain view is just something i made so i could actually view this |
| 08:40.08 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/jwoNQFR.jpg |
| 08:41.01 | Corv | Ooooh. Shiny. |
| 08:41.59 | Semlar | i want it to be useful you know, not just in the way |
| 08:42.39 | Ackis | anyone know of an addon that tracks farm progress across alts? |
| 08:43.35 | Corv | Is that not somewhere near the kitchen sink in Altoholic? |
| 08:43.50 | Corv | In all seriousness though, no. =) |
| 08:44.51 | Ackis | :P |
| 08:48.20 | bluspacecow | BBL work tiems |
| 08:53.26 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/CADWg.jpg this was from another clearly superior version |
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| 09:37.17 | Semlar | vlad! |
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| 10:18.26 | VIad | Semlar: |
| 10:18.33 | Semlar | sup |
| 10:20.01 | VIad | not much, recovering and drinking chocolate milk :D |
| 10:20.10 | VIad | how aboot you? |
| 10:21.27 | Semlar | not sleeping |
| 10:25.18 | VIad | it's 11:25AM here |
| 10:25.38 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/Tj3DMKH.jpg |
| 10:25.49 | VIad | you made squares? |
| 10:25.50 | Semlar | it's 5 here |
| 10:26.11 | VIad | you put the dalaran zones on crystalsong |
| 10:26.49 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/Pd3Ix0y.jpg |
| 10:27.04 | VIad | yeah |
| 10:27.12 | VIad | oh you got GM island? ;d |
| 10:27.22 | Semlar | gm island is in kalimdor |
| 10:27.25 | VIad | and the hidden unused programmer island, designer island, e.g. |
| 10:27.29 | VIad | :3 |
| 10:27.35 | VIad | got lots of DND or UNUSED places? |
| 10:27.38 | Semlar | no |
| 10:27.48 | VIad | you monster |
| 10:27.50 | Semlar | i filtered out most of the stuff that doesn't exist |
| 10:28.01 | VIad | even GM island? |
| 10:28.05 | VIad | it exists |
| 10:28.06 | Semlar | GM island does exist |
| 10:28.09 | VIad | :3 |
| 10:28.29 | Semlar | but it would be filtered out if i restricted this to in-game maps like i should |
| 10:29.24 | Semlar | there appears to be a square of tiles belonging to crystalsong forest in the middle of nowhere in northrend |
| 10:30.24 | mikma | semlar: yeah, we all know it exists ;) |
| 10:31.12 | Semlar | the devs appear to just leave random crap all over the place players wouldn't normally see |
| 10:31.15 | mikma | oh the joys when people cheated into GM island and ganked the afk GM in there :D |
| 10:31.48 | VIad | hook SetText meta table, check a list of phrases against the text and make a hyperlink in-game for a clickable link to highlight the area in question on the world map :P |
| 10:31.59 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1lkM6H--R8 |
| 10:32.03 | Semlar | i was going to |
| 10:32.03 | VIad | awesome when unitframes use SetText :P |
| 10:32.10 | Semlar | but i'm not sure how plausible that is |
| 10:32.25 | VIad | could do it for quest log maybe |
| 10:32.49 | VIad | only issue is the widget used for text container must support hyperlinks |
| 10:33.27 | VIad | worst case gotta make a new container object, place it as a child of the scrollframe and make sure all old object methods redirect their content to the new scroll child |
| 10:33.44 | VIad | in any case, neat idea, to be able to match up and make links of names of zones |
| 10:34.11 | VIad | Semlar: where do you publish your addons? |
| 10:34.20 | VIad | I just wanna subscribe :P |
| 10:34.24 | Semlar | wherever i feel like it |
| 10:34.40 | VIad | like rapidshare.com ? |
| 10:34.48 | Semlar | wowinterface and curse |
| 10:34.52 | VIad | ok :3 |
| 10:35.14 | Semlar | except i very rarely ever upload any of the addons i make for myself |
| 10:35.27 | VIad | hehe |
| 10:36.39 | VIad | Semlar: I can't remember if I read your reply, what do you do/work/study? |
| 10:36.55 | Semlar | i'm just a student |
| 10:37.09 | VIad | no part time job? ok, what did you study? :) |
| 10:38.00 | Rythal | is there a way to perform a function from a string... ie I have a string set menu_add = "CreateMenu(\"Hi There\")" ... menu_add() kinda like eval in php (tried loadstring but that doesn't seem to work) |
| 10:38.22 | Semlar | this sounds like a bad idea |
| 10:38.37 | Semlar | you probably shouldn't need to do this |
| 10:40.00 | Rythal | >< I'm trying to do it for modules so I wouldn't need to check if a module is loaded before running it's function... I thought it would be easier to have an array the modules could put the functions into |
| 10:43.05 | Semlar | loadstring does work |
| 10:43.12 | Semlar | but seriously, don't do this |
| 10:43.28 | Rythal | I keep going around in loops... in what i'm trying to do now, the main addon's right click menu contains functions from a module, so if WoW hasn't loaded the secondary addon yet it fails and generates error... but if the module loads first so it won't fail, then the module errors because stuff from the main addon isn't loaded yet |
| 10:44.28 | Semlar | the whole point of having it in a separate module is that the core can operate completely independent of them |
| 10:45.05 | Semlar | the module operates on the core functions, the core shouldn't be relying on the module |
| 10:45.59 | VIad | sorry for asking personal questions Semlar :P |
| 10:46.02 | VIad | I'll stop |
| 10:46.54 | Rythal | but i'm trying to expand the core... with the core frame, as an example when you right click a map icon, it has 4 options ... I'd like the modules to be able to add option 5 and option 6, but it can't do that once the core is loaded since the frame is created, set and finished. |
| 10:47.38 | Semlar | you need to do it in a way that the module can come in after the core has done its thing and modify whatever it wants |
| 10:50.34 | Semlar | for modular design each component is supposed to be self-contained |
| 10:55.45 | mikma | semlar: http://i.imgur.com/Pd3Ix0y.jpg <- what's that out there south at the sea? |
| 10:55.59 | Semlar | part of howling fjord |
| 10:56.14 | mikma | meh |
| 10:56.24 | Semlar | it didn't get grouped with the rest of the points because it's like way the hell away from any of the other ones |
| 10:56.39 | Semlar | it's just some stray area |
| 10:57.42 | Semlar | did you see the map of karazhan |
| 10:57.53 | mikma | neinrrrr |
| 10:58.07 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/xPNz0nw.jpg |
| 10:58.28 | mikma | netherspace? O_o |
| 10:58.41 | Semlar | it's part of the fight with the last boss |
| 10:58.47 | Semlar | when you're standing on the roof |
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| 10:59.10 | Semlar | the infernals come flying down from waaay out in netherspace |
| 10:59.15 | mikma | hah |
| 11:00.14 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/ZFIS6SY.jpg firelands and molten front |
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| 11:31.47 | Maldivia | Rythal: is there a reason you're not doing it the other way around - as in the sub-modules register the menu-item with the core when they are loaded? |
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| 11:51.39 | Fisker | bluworkcow |
| 11:51.42 | Fisker | i don't hate you bluworkcow |
| 11:53.44 | VIad | Rythal: planning to make a Carbonite API file? |
| 11:53.50 | VIad | doc* |
| 11:53.59 | VIad | (for public API) |
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| 12:11.23 | bluworkcow | i'm glad Fisker. |
| 12:28.31 | bleeter | General gaming foo: My friend is launching a community project to centralise additional details on Humble Bundle titles. Please consider https://twitter.com/TwoLofBees/status/297902015286235136 |
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| 12:42.25 | Rythal | Maldivia: I am now.... it was partially because I have no clue 90% of the carbonite code, so I had no idea what frame to be modifying since everything is unnamed... but I finally figured it out, at least one of the menu's so far.... VIad: to do that, i'd need to know what the heck I was doing instead of mudding through this :P but yes eventually i'll do a faq or sample.lua |
| 12:43.02 | VIad | It's nice to be able to display stuff on carbonite map :P like icons on specific maps and such :P |
| 12:43.43 | Rythal | that's already known of how to do... at least npc scan does it |
| 12:45.42 | VIad | combat scroll text addons have a doc file to help out a little ;3 just sayan |
| 12:45.56 | Rythal | as for general icons, that's coming further down the line ... I already know I need to redo the notes since the original they wrote doesn't handle dungeon levels there for fails for microdungeons... so at the same time i'm going to make an easy api for plugins / addons to inject into the notes |
| 12:46.11 | VIad | sounds like a plan |
| 12:46.15 | VIad | and a lot of rewrite :D |
| 12:46.28 | Fisker | hey bluworkcow |
| 12:46.41 | Rythal | heh... i'm rewriting almost the entire code as it is |
| 12:46.44 | Fisker | you calling me a foo bleeter ? |
| 12:48.19 | bluworkcow | what's a foo bleeter |
| 12:48.34 | bleeter | like a foo fighter but not at all |
| 12:49.21 | Rythal | I'm not looking forward to rewriting the quest code :/ I've already converted the quest database they use to a new format I can work with... but I keep finding other things to work on / change to avoid actually implementing it |
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| 13:35.29 | g0urra | [Ferocious Butt] [Pounding] [For the Children] |
| 13:35.36 | g0urra | classic trade |
| 13:36.16 | Fisker | report |
| 13:36.17 | Fisker | ed |
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| 13:57.00 | Maldivia | g0urra: can't really see how that can be "for the children"... |
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| 15:03.23 | karl_w_w | lol guild roster still bugs |
| 15:22.50 | VIad | karl_w_w: what bug are you talking about? |
| 15:25.56 | karl_w_w | where it says people are still online when they arent |
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| 16:01.19 | karl_w_w | oscarucb does your gara'jal addon account for healers' mana? |
| 16:07.45 | VIad | oscarucb is afk |
| 16:08.39 | karl_w_w | obviously |
| 16:08.45 | karl_w_w | but are you afk? |
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| 16:27.26 | pompy | Cairenn|afk: http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/535571_10151389106124277_776066260_n.jpg my friends cat |
| 16:38.15 | Fisker | want some crack? |
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| 17:05.07 | karl_w_w | apparently some people do elegon without dropping stacks in the last phase? |
| 17:14.01 | Stanzilla | we never dropped stacks in the last phase |
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| 17:15.18 | karl_w_w | weird |
| 17:15.35 | karl_w_w | i've done it a few times with guild and in pugs and never even heard of that before |
| 17:15.44 | karl_w_w | so much harder trying to heal throug |
| 17:15.45 | karl_w_w | h |
| 17:15.57 | karl_w_w | i think a lot of people dont realise how big his hit box is |
| 17:18.49 | Stanzilla | running is always a dps loss :D |
| 17:19.01 | Stanzilla | (for most classes anyway) |
| 17:21.14 | karl_w_w | not really :P |
| 17:21.26 | karl_w_w | ele shams mages hunters i know it isnt for sure |
| 17:21.45 | Thunder_Child | depends on the mage |
| 17:21.46 | Stanzilla | mages I would not agree |
| 17:21.59 | Thunder_Child | arcane can move spam |
| 17:22.35 | Stanzilla | warlock is one of the classes that loses 0 dps while running |
| 17:22.52 | karl_w_w | all mages can move and dps |
| 17:23.07 | karl_w_w | with the talent and/or if they have enough procs up |
| 17:23.08 | Stanzilla | dps != max dps |
| 17:23.25 | karl_w_w | yes max dps |
| 17:23.32 | Stanzilla | then no |
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| 17:23.52 | karl_w_w | how no? |
| 17:24.03 | karl_w_w | i think ur overestimating how far u have to run |
| 17:24.07 | Stanzilla | talent makes only one cast while movable, right? |
| 17:24.20 | Stanzilla | that was broken english |
| 17:24.23 | Stanzilla | but you know |
| 17:24.49 | karl_w_w | 2 casts |
| 17:25.51 | Stanzilla | might work out then |
| 17:25.51 | End_ | doesn't that talent have a cooldown? |
| 17:25.54 | Stanzilla | I thought it was only one |
| 17:26.00 | Stanzilla | yeah, 1min |
| 17:26.08 | Stanzilla | but you probably only run once anyway |
| 17:26.15 | Stanzilla | don't know though, never did it |
| 17:26.27 | End_ | hm |
| 17:26.38 | End_ | I dunno either |
| 17:45.17 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 17:45.22 | Fisker | why no 64-bit chrome yet? |
| 17:45.39 | Stanzilla | because justin has a new born |
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| 17:57.48 | karl_w_w | lol 1 tank died |
| 17:57.51 | karl_w_w | at 55 |
| 17:57.54 | karl_w_w | % |
| 17:57.59 | karl_w_w | another add spawned |
| 17:58.11 | karl_w_w | and we still downed it |
| 18:11.52 | Stanzilla | gz! |
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| 18:12.46 | Fisker | oh ok Stanzilla |
| 18:12.48 | Fisker | did you fuck him? |
| 18:13.51 | Stanzilla | Fisker: nope |
| 18:15.57 | Fisker | ok |
| 18:16.03 | Fisker | then how did he get a new born? |
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| 18:28.37 | Stanzilla | from his wife |
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| 18:38.55 | Fisker | he should've planned that baby a bit earlier/later then to not conflict with porting of chrome to 64-bit |
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| 18:50.25 | karl_w_w | im in awe at our guild's holy pally |
| 18:50.57 | karl_w_w | the dude has topped heals on every fight i can remember |
| 18:51.07 | karl_w_w | this is since the start of wotlk |
| 18:51.16 | karl_w_w | and he is pretty much always the least geared |
| 18:51.40 | karl_w_w | atm he is rocking a blue weapon and offhand and he still smashes every1 |
| 18:51.57 | karl_w_w | and he's the humblest quietest guy u would ever meet as well |
| 18:52.34 | Seerah | yet another example of how ilvl =/= skill :) |
| 18:52.55 | karl_w_w | he almost never rolls on gear as well, our guild leader is always like "oh pala can use that, pala ur taking it" |
| 18:53.16 | karl_w_w | its not like the other healers are bad |
| 18:54.04 | Seerah | didn't say that :) If they're good, it just makes him better |
| 18:54.46 | karl_w_w | the 1 thing he isnt great at is dispelling :P |
| 18:55.01 | karl_w_w | and he's always poor cos he never does dailies or anything like that |
| 18:56.22 | Fisker | you should kick him |
| 18:57.11 | karl_w_w | i reckon |
| 19:06.58 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 19:06.58 | purl | ~pong |
| 19:07.35 | karl_w_w | shingles Shirik |
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| 19:58.01 | Semlar | Adys i don't think ladik's mpq editor works with patched files even though stormlib does |
| 19:58.16 | Semlar | although it does seem to work better than it used to |
| 19:58.43 | Semlar | seems like it just extracts the base file |
| 20:01.52 | Semlar | i only mention it to you because you seem to be in contact with zezula |
| 20:02.17 | Stanzilla | Shirik: pls fix https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=173911 |
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| 20:15.01 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 20:15.05 | Fisker | pls fix above |
| 20:15.12 | Fisker | we love you |
| 20:15.22 | Fisker | (but only if you fix) |
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| 20:22.06 | Semlar | conditional love |
| 20:24.10 | Fisker | my love is saving the world |
| 20:24.20 | Fisker | (by providing chrome 64-bit) |
| 20:24.26 | Fisker | do it Shirik |
| 20:28.10 | karl_w_w | fog dammit! |
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| 20:34.26 | VIad | Semlar: is area 321 Stonetalon or Orgrimmar? |
| 20:34.30 | Shirik | why do I have to fix it Stanzilla :( |
| 20:34.39 | Semlar | org |
| 20:34.47 | Stanzilla | Shirik: because you are a nice guy |
| 20:35.05 | Fisker | and i love you (provided you fix it) |
| 20:35.22 | Stanzilla | and because you want chrome 64bit, too |
| 20:35.37 | VIad | some guy said "Orgrimmar pin is in Stonetalon Mountains." |
| 20:35.38 | Shirik | I want chrome to not use the graphics card |
| 20:35.42 | VIad | -_- sigh |
| 20:35.56 | Stanzilla | that is possible Shirik |
| 20:36.26 | Semlar | stonetalon is 81 |
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| 20:37.27 | karl_w_w | he didnt say it is stonetalon, he said it's in stonetalon |
| 20:37.48 | VIad | just the guy said that the elder for orgrimmar was in stonetalon, I checked, in the database it is assigned to the proper area - i.e. map |
| 20:37.59 | VIad | but 81 ok Ill check this way around :D |
| 20:38.17 | VIad | no stonetalon elders in the db :P |
| 20:38.18 | VIad | weird lol |
| 20:38.29 | VIad | maybe he uses outdated one, the one with the now removed Elder |
| 20:38.41 | Semlar | stonetalon contains the very center of kalimdor so you might have some other problem |
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| 20:39.00 | Semlar | 0,0 is in stonetalon |
| 20:39.07 | karl_w_w | O.O |
| 20:39.28 | Semlar | which is probably why you would randomly get put there if it bugged out the zeppelins or boats |
| 20:39.29 | VIad | what is the area id of kalimdor map? :P |
| 20:39.36 | Semlar | 13 |
| 20:39.43 | kd3 | when 1.11 naxx was first implemented, the server often broke and we'd spawn underneath stonetalon falling to our doom |
| 20:39.49 | VIad | no hits either,phew :P |
| 20:39.55 | VIad | for now, not my problem :D hehe |
| 20:40.01 | Semlar | that's the spirit |
| 20:40.17 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 20:40.20 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 20:40.23 | Fisker | i suck at see plus plus |
| 20:40.30 | smcn | wasn't there a problem with boats running ashore in stonetalon too? |
| 20:40.32 | Fisker | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/zkwh89ks(v=vs.80).aspx |
| 20:40.36 | Fisker | but if it's ignored in x64 |
| 20:40.39 | smcn | oh, that was mentioned. derp |
| 20:40.48 | Fisker | couldn't that be why it fails? |
| 20:42.30 | zenzelezz | "Still can't believe I got 1,357,166 happy birthday wishes on Twitter. I mean, a million, sure, but..." |
| 20:43.01 | Fisker | was that you zenzelezz ? |
| 20:43.14 | zenzelezz | sadly, no :( Was Brent Spiner |
| 20:43.22 | Fisker | :( |
| 20:44.01 | Shirik | Fisker, sorta |
| 20:44.03 | zenzelezz | it's okay, he deserves them |
| 20:44.11 | Fisker | wait so i'm right? |
| 20:44.22 | Fisker | starts dancing |
| 20:44.54 | Shirik | it's something to look at. There is no cdecl calling convention on x64, but I think that's just the demangler doing some weird things |
| 20:45.19 | Shirik | but if it's really trying to find that function, then that would tend to imply they're linking 32-bit code with 64-bit code |
| 20:45.21 | Shirik | which should explode |
| 20:45.36 | Fisker | all errors you spend more than 1 hour looking at is caused by something incredibly simple |
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| 20:46.24 | Shirik | yeah x64 decorates with a leading @! |
| 20:46.48 | Shirik | their functions have a leading _ |
| 20:46.54 | Shirik | which likely means linking 32-bit code to 64-bit code |
| 20:47.07 | Fisker | so basically i was right |
| 20:47.11 | Fisker | highfives Stanzilla |
| 20:47.25 | zenzelezz | clearly they should just link the 32-bit code twice, then it'd be 64-bit |
| 20:47.28 | Shirik | specifically |
| 20:47.33 | Shirik | google_chrome_sxs_distribution.obj is the 32-bit code |
| 20:47.41 | Shirik | wait no it's not |
| 20:47.43 | Fisker | nah they need to link it to the power of 2 |
| 20:47.44 | Fisker | :( |
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| 20:47.56 | Shirik | yes it is |
| 20:48.35 | Fisker | you confuse me |
| 20:48.50 | Shirik | google_chrome_sxs_distribution.obj is 32-bit |
| 20:49.19 | Shirik | or installer_util.google_chrome_sxs_distribution.obj |
| 20:49.21 | Shirik | whatever its full name is |
| 20:49.25 | Shirik | that's a weird name for an obj file |
| 20:50.40 | Fisker | how do you see that the other one is 64-bit? |
| 20:53.03 | Shirik | primarily the fact that the function doesn't exist |
| 20:53.29 | Shirik | this error would occur if the other one were 64-bit because it would replace the _ at the front of its name with an @ |
| 20:53.38 | Shirik | if it were also 32-bit it would have linked fine (except it would be 32-bit) |
| 20:54.07 | Fisker | I should read more see plus plus |
| 20:54.15 | Fisker | but i'm content with the fact that was kinda right! |
| 20:54.40 | Shirik | for example |
| 20:54.45 | Shirik | installer_util.google_chrome_sxs_distribution.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol "private: virtual bool __cdecl GoogleChromeDistribution::BuildUninstallMetricsString(class base::DictionaryValue const *,class std::basic_string<wchar_t,struct std::char_traits<wchar_t>,class std::allocator<wchar_t> > *)" (?BuildUninstallMetricsString@GoogleChromeDistribution@@EEAA_NPEBVDictionaryV |
| 20:54.45 | Shirik | alue@base@@PEAV?$basic_string@_WU?$char_traits@_W@std@@V?$allocator@_W@2@@std@@@Z) |
| 20:55.01 | zenzelezz | looks a little like perl |
| 20:55.09 | Shirik | that part that goes @_W@2@@std@@@Z should be @@W@2@@std@@@Z |
| 20:55.16 | Kalroth | looks like someone vomited over a compiler |
| 20:56.36 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 20:56.41 | Fisker | does that upset you? |
| 20:56.49 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 20:56.51 | Stanzilla | why should it |
| 20:57.24 | Fisker | 64-bit chrome tomorrow hopefully |
| 20:57.50 | Fisker | I hope they give you a sack of cash Shirik |
| 20:57.53 | Fisker | like the security bugs |
| 20:58.10 | Shirik | I think this is slightly less important than a security bug |
| 20:58.18 | Stanzilla | well still love you though |
| 20:58.24 | Stanzilla | they should paypal you 54 |
| 20:58.30 | Fisker | 64* |
| 20:58.32 | Stanzilla | 45 |
| 20:58.39 | Stanzilla | 64! |
| 20:58.50 | Stanzilla | billion ofc |
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| 21:03.27 | Humbedooh | tharper: so, did you watch it with or without subtitles?*giggle* |
| 21:03.40 | tharper | lol Humbedooh, definitely wiht =p |
| 21:03.45 | Humbedooh | hah |
| 21:03.56 | tharper | though jnwhiteh did say, "Wow, how come these are so much easier to understand than the other Danes?" |
| 21:04.19 | jnwhiteh | well, I understood *some things8 |
| 21:04.32 | Humbedooh | 'cause they're all suits |
| 21:04.43 | Humbedooh | and...whatevz |
| 21:04.49 | tharper | also over the age of 20 |
| 21:04.54 | tharper | young KBH danes |
| 21:04.55 | tharper | O.O |
| 21:04.55 | Humbedooh | could be |
| 21:05.02 | tharper | wtf is up with how they speak |
| 21:05.19 | Fisker | why were you in københavn without telling me? |
| 21:05.20 | Humbedooh | meh, who cares about young people anyway |
| 21:05.29 | tharper | Fisker: we weren't, yet |
| 21:05.32 | tharper | just hav eheard htem on TV |
| 21:05.44 | jnwhiteh | we were a few years ago |
| 21:05.46 | jnwhiteh | and I did tell you |
| 21:05.51 | jnwhiteh | you ignored me, as per usual |
| 21:05.52 | Fisker | yeah |
| 21:05.54 | Fisker | but i missed |
| 21:05.58 | Fisker | :( |
| 21:06.05 | jnwhiteh | U MISSED INDEED |
| 21:06.11 | Fisker | no no |
| 21:06.12 | Humbedooh | secretly, he wept :\ |
| 21:06.16 | Fisker | i mean i missed with my sniper rifle |
| 21:06.31 | jnwhiteh | now, that's not really funny |
| 21:06.41 | jnwhiteh | if you made it absurd, like say you tried to knife me and failed |
| 21:06.44 | jnwhiteh | that might have been amusing |
| 21:06.51 | Fisker | but then you would've known |
| 21:07.01 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 21:07.35 | Fisker | don't hate me? |
| 21:08.01 | tharper | not sure I'm going to KBH anytime soon, now |
| 21:08.25 | Semlar | kd3 i found the isle of giants |
| 21:09.19 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bIn_ZgHJaE |
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| 21:09.42 | Fisker | me neither tharper |
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| 21:10.42 | mikma | fisker: you can always make up the part that you ignored and go and visit them in the gayden |
| 21:10.48 | mikma | fisker: i mean, swegay |
| 21:10.51 | mikma | err |
| 21:11.22 | mikma | pops fists up, bring it on, tharper! |
| 21:11.23 | Fisker | You mean in sweatmen? |
| 21:12.04 | tharper | indeed, the men are hot in Sweden, so someof them sweat |
| 21:12.53 | mikma | and the girls are as blond as finnish girls are. most likely stupid, too |
| 21:13.27 | Fisker | isn't that more of a girl thing than a nationality thing |
| 21:13.55 | mikma | dunno, sleepysleepy |
| 21:15.09 | Fisker | I should sleep as well |
| 21:15.11 | Fisker | but i don't wanna work tomorrow |
| 21:15.18 | Fisker | having to rush out an irrelevant java update because banks started blocking it |
| 21:15.27 | Fisker | and then it got patched :( |
| 21:15.40 | Fisker | so now they'll probably block the old one as well |
| 21:17.51 | Fisker | maybe not so big a deal anymore since i fixed the script up good |
| 21:24.15 | Fisker | goodbye cruel jnwhiteh |
| 21:24.35 | Fisker | that was harsh |
| 21:27.10 | Kalroth | l2p issue fisker |
| 21:27.56 | Fisker | i don't hate you Kalroth |
| 21:28.01 | Kalroth | :( |
| 21:28.07 | Fisker | what? |
| 21:29.23 | Fisker | time for sleep |
| 21:30.56 | Kalroth | nn |
| 21:31.11 | Stanzilla | Security at #superbowl: http://imgur.com/a/yDZrS PS. Nobody likes campers. |
| 21:32.01 | Maldivia | hope they don't have a favorite team... |
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| 21:33.16 | Maldivia | Stanzilla: but isn't that from last year? |
| 21:33.51 | Maldivia | considering the giants logo on the field |
| 21:34.09 | Maldivia | ... oh, and the XLVI in the window :) |
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| 21:57.49 | Arrowmaster | yeah i saw those images last year |
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| 22:54.21 | Rythal | ho hum... 7 minutes until the fun trying to stay 1 step ahead of takedowns so I can continue to watch the game lol |
| 22:56.46 | smcn | takedowns? |
| 23:01.09 | Rythal | yeah, since i'm not american I have to watch it on like justin.tv n such ... and if it's like every other year CBS is very rabid in issuing takedowns to stop people streaming it |
| 23:07.46 | smcn | cbs is streaming it themselves http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/superbowl/live/player not sure if there's a geographic restriction though |
| 23:11.00 | Alram | Data load error |
| 23:11.06 | Alram | There probably is then |
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| 23:38.56 | Amarande | huh. |
| 23:38.59 | Amarande | this is very strange. |
| 23:39.45 | Amarande | you know that bartender glitch I got with my rogue when attacking from stealth? |
| 23:40.04 | Amarande | If I have Bartender set to *switch* bars when going in/out of stealth I don't seem to be getting it. |
| 23:40.15 | Amarande | It only happens when I have the addon *not* switch the action bars, which seems ... strange |
