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| 02:10.08 | kd3 | eek |
| 02:10.14 | kd3 | http://i.imgur.com/gE0FLzm.jpg |
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| 02:31.43 | kd3 | and... wow. http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/security/javacpufeb2013-1841061.html |
| 02:31.48 | kd3 | that's just horrifying |
| 02:37.29 | A-KO | yes |
| 02:37.33 | A-KO | I'm going to have a really busy Monday |
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| 03:10.51 | Iriel | I imagine server teams everywhere are having a fun friday or will have a fun monday |
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| 03:56.21 | Thunder_Child | At least our oracle db is internal only |
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| 04:14.44 | bluspacecow | *note on desk to fix iCloud Notes not fixing* |
| 04:14.53 | bluspacecow | *start computer up after napping from overnight shift* |
| 04:14.57 | bluspacecow | *all fixed* |
| 04:15.04 | bluspacecow | -_____- i hate it when that happens |
| 04:15.26 | bluspacecow | especially when I didn't actually do anything on the computer other than start it up. |
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| 04:27.59 | Dagmar | *sigh* |
| 04:28.24 | Dagmar | $user changes what they're doing with a server. Uploads 2.2Gb of stuff in 24 hours, fills /var/www. |
| 04:28.41 | Dagmar | I tell user "Disk is full. Increase will happen Monday". |
| 04:29.12 | Dagmar | $user sends me email tonight "Files don't appear to be synching anymore on $server." |
| 04:29.31 | Dagmar | Mac user. |
| 04:29.33 | kd3 | "didn't I just tell you that the disk is full?" |
| 04:29.34 | Dagmar | That's all I'm sayin'. |
| 04:29.50 | Dagmar | Normally they're pretty cool people to work with, but this incident has me headdesking |
| 04:30.17 | Dagmar | Gonna call the new boss tomorrow and see about getting clearance to just go into the office and fix it early |
| 04:30.43 | Dagmar | Also learned that if the filesystem is full when logrotation happens, it can actually shut down the httpd |
| 04:31.00 | kd3 | ack |
| 04:31.15 | Dagmar | Not much I can do to preserve uptime when the users are actively trying to strangle the thing to death |
| 04:32.11 | Neffi | what kind of server is this? |
| 04:32.26 | Dagmar | At least on Monday we go back to the old dept and old building where I can wrap my hands around people when I need to |
| 04:32.40 | Dagmar | Neffi: A webserver that's part of a load-balanced pair |
| 04:32.56 | Dagmar | I'm just glad this condition didn't hit both at the same time, so no customer-facing downtime |
| 04:33.45 | Dagmar | Maybe I won't have to have another discussion with a manager about my personal priority being actually keeping the things up and running _all the time_ |
| 04:34.41 | Dagmar | MAYBE--but i don't have high hopes--after this they'll unclench a bit about what requires change management approval and what's a pre-approved change |
| 04:34.52 | Neffi | You should write a script that records it own logs when it encounters users doing stupid things, and makes them publicly and obviously available to everyone |
| 04:34.53 | Dagmar | The only reason I didn't just double the space there today is procedure |
| 04:35.07 | Neffi | Force people to learn to stop being stupid or face public shame |
| 04:35.08 | Dagmar | Neffi: I would but it's impossible |
| 04:35.26 | Dagmar | We generally fix things so whatever dippy thing they did before can't be a problem a second time |
| 04:35.28 | Semlar | learn to stop being stupid? |
| 04:35.33 | Dagmar | They just come up with newer, more interesting dippy things |
| 04:35.34 | Semlar | well there's a novel idea |
| 04:35.48 | Neffi | It's the most "genious" idea I've ever had |
| 04:35.50 | kd3 | there's no making something idiot-proof. the universe does a much better job of building idiots |
| 04:36.13 | Dagmar | In this case it was a server that's supposed to be servicing an entirely different set of files, which was moved off onto it's own instance because they were mechanically DDoSing themselves. |
| 04:36.31 | Dagmar | Specifically, sending out an email to about 45,000 people with 8-12 image references in it that all point to this server |
| 04:36.37 | Neffi | I honestly feel if you take the time to bandaid things so as to allow people to be stupid, they're more likely to be stupid |
| 04:36.41 | Dagmar | The majority of whom are Outlook users. |
| 04:36.53 | Dagmar | So... 100,000+ hits in the first half hour |
| 04:37.05 | kd3 | ouch! |
| 04:37.10 | Dagmar | ...on servers that generally handle that many hits in a week |
| 04:37.49 | Dagmar | It was built out to be able to service a bunch of large files that get hit with great force and wild abandon. Not serve out a large number of small files. |
| 04:38.29 | Dagmar | I personally don't care what they do with the things. |
| 04:38.55 | Dagmar | I just want to know when they change what they're doing dramatically so I can make sure the service doesn't suffer. |
| 04:39.21 | Dagmar | We found out the hard way (by seeing the thing blow up) and it happened again before i could get the space increase cleared |
| 04:39.50 | Dagmar | I'm there for them at all hours of the day and night, but I ain't psychic |
| 04:42.02 | Neffi | Ugh |
| 04:43.48 | Neffi | Yay. I get to install a virtual machine to run 32-bit Windows. |
| 04:44.21 | Neffi | Other than the 16-bit caveat, I think assembly class ought to be fun |
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| 05:06.15 | Dagmar | You want 16-bit |
| 05:06.21 | Dagmar | If you could, you'd probably want 8-bit |
| 05:06.45 | Dagmar | Compared to what it was in 1992, assembly is being thrown in at the deep end, plus rabid pirhanas now |
| 05:07.17 | Dagmar | 6502 asm is super easy compared to the current stuff |
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| 05:37.56 | Neffi | It's the curriculum |
| 05:38.17 | Neffi | Only need to do 16-bit for 1 or 2 assignments. In any case, I think it's useful to learn. |
| 05:40.32 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 05:40.50 | bluspacecow | yet-another-client files only-PTR-build |
| 05:42.33 | kd3 | I'm not sending an email |
| 05:44.58 | MysticalOS | demands email |
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| 05:51.34 | bluspacecow | *sends MysticalOS spam mail* |
| 05:51.50 | bluspacecow | "Cure for male paten baldness. Rub viagra on your dome" |
| 05:52.49 | Semlar | patches bluespacecow |
| 06:06.55 | bluspacecow | *gasp* |
| 06:19.05 | Semlar | i'll be gentle baby, relax |
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| 12:32.13 | VIad | there are no stupid questions, because stupidity is a state of being, something a sentence can't have as attribute :P |
| 12:34.22 | VIad | and sure let's say you can have questions with obvious answers, i.e. "stupid questions" it then is a relativity issue - so I dissagree that stupid questions exist, as it's an abstract "idea" |
| 12:34.30 | VIad | random rant completed :D |
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| 12:49.47 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 12:49.49 | Fisker | why not surface pro? |
| 12:57.45 | haste | why would you? |
| 12:58.02 | haste | you don't event get the space it says it has! |
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| 13:17.41 | bluworkcow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7811481445 |
| 13:17.43 | bluworkcow | LOL |
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| 13:26.25 | nevcairiel | sounds like znf |
| 13:26.33 | nevcairiel | morons will be morons |
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| 13:43.33 | F16Gaming | well there is a real problem with the default UI... |
| 13:43.48 | F16Gaming | frames suddenly hiding behind other frames (dungeon journal is not usable) |
| 13:44.15 | Fisker | you haste |
| 13:44.15 | F16Gaming | i find myself having to write scripts that loops through every frame setting their frame level to 9001, then it's fixed |
| 13:44.16 | Fisker | you |
| 13:46.24 | Xuerian | That whole taint thing still going on? Eh. |
| 13:46.37 | Fisker | of course |
| 13:46.44 | Fisker | people will try to automate glyphing |
| 13:46.56 | F16Gaming | my issue isn't related to taint.. or at least i think so. just that for some reason the frame levels on certain blizzard elements get borked up |
| 13:47.24 | pnorman | I getthe same problems with the dungeon journal sometimes |
| 13:47.28 | Xuerian | Fisker: What's that have to do with anything? |
| 13:47.30 | F16Gaming | exactly |
| 13:47.41 | F16Gaming | dungeon journal, character panel |
| 13:47.58 | F16Gaming | those are the most common ones with issues |
| 13:49.28 | Fisker | everything Xuerian |
| 13:49.58 | Xuerian | Fisker: Doesn't have anything to do with what I asked - I only care about addons that have nothing to do with the glyph frame getting blamed for taint. |
| 13:50.48 | Xuerian | I did say "anything", though, so /shrug |
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| 14:17.44 | neutronimity | All right, I have a macro with multiple /cast arguments and also modifiers. Each cast is only activated by it's modifier though, so no GCD-lock or multiple casting. The macro seemed to bug out randomly though, in combat particularly when it was spammed, and it would not activate any more even though the action bar button was indicating being pressed. .. |
| 14:18.40 | neutronimity | I was suggested to take out the multiple /cast arguments due to waterfall-filtering on Blizzard's side, but I find the same problem occurring still with only one /cast argument. |
| 14:19.12 | neutronimity | I'm now clueless as to where to pick up. Ideas? |
| 14:21.41 | Gnarfoz | step 1: |
| 14:21.43 | Gnarfoz | post the macro. |
| 14:23.53 | neutronimity | Oooh - seems I didn't rewrite the paladin macros. >_< |
| 14:24.01 | neutronimity | Postponed. :P |
| 14:24.36 | neutronimity | Thanks Gnarfoz |
| 14:27.41 | neutronimity | If still interested - this was the macro: http://pastebin.com/5uu9m5XE |
| 14:27.53 | neutronimity | Need a restart - brb. |
| 14:28.05 | neutronimity | Ooh wait, this macro actually doesn't have more than 1 /cast argument. |
| 14:28.11 | neutronimity | How come it locked up? :P |
| 14:28.12 | neutronimity | Brb |
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| 18:58.16 | zenzelezz | ohai |
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| 22:54.02 | Shirik | hey TC-work |
| 22:54.15 | Shirik | this will either make you rage more or happy: http://www.thedailyblink.com/comics/2013-02-01-414.jpg |
| 23:03.14 | kd3 | ooh. a rain band coming through and we're just barely above freezing |
| 23:03.36 | Humbedooh | snow! |
| 23:03.43 | Humbedooh | \o/ |
| 23:03.58 | kd3 | nah. it's still coming down in liquid form. just wondering how much is going to freeze tonight |
| 23:07.33 | Amarande | kd3: ouch, that's the nasty stuff |
| 23:07.45 | Amarande | the stuff that comes down liquid & then freezes on your power lines just in time for you to miss the Super Bowl :) |
| 23:08.30 | mikma | enough with this snow crap already, where's my summer goddamnit |
| 23:08.41 | kd3 | last week? |
| 23:08.45 | kd3 | we were in the 70s |
| 23:10.35 | smcn | enchant prices are so dumb, scroll of jade spirit is 7000 gold, 10 sha crystals is 3700 |
| 23:10.59 | Amarande | smcn: yeah, I've still yet to think of a time when I will even want to use jade spirit :S |
| 23:11.09 | Amarande | I probably won't ever use that enchant at present economy unless maybe I get my hands on a heroic raid weapon |
| 23:11.22 | Amarande | otherwise I'll settle for Elemental Force for 100g :P |
| 23:11.27 | smcn | yeah i just got the sha-touched staff in lfr |
| 23:11.57 | Amarande | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/ysera/Kiruna/simple <--- main so far |
| 23:12.40 | Amarande | hm |
| 23:12.46 | Amarande | is there any really quick way to level up battle pets? |
| 23:12.57 | Amarande | it started out seeming grindy, and now that I'm a bit past 10 it's starting to feel grindier |
| 23:14.16 | smcn | yeah it's grindy |
| 23:15.43 | smcn | once you beat 40 master trainers you get a hat that increases exp by 10%, but that's every master trainer on every continent + 1 from making a character on the opposite faction |
| 23:16.27 | Amarande | also you pretty much need a team of level 25 rare pets already to get that, I imagine :) |
| 23:16.38 | smcn | yeah |
| 23:16.44 | Amarande | at least I'm assuming that the final master trainers probably all have full teams of 25 epic and then 25 legendary :P |
| 23:17.13 | Amarande | cheaters, LOL |
| 23:17.20 | Amarande | since I doubt we'll ever get epic or legendary pets |
| 23:17.37 | Amarande | if we do, they'll probably be severely limited in usefulness (since much like Pokemon they'll probably have to debar them from normal PvP usage) |
| 23:17.46 | smcn | pandaria masters are all epic, last one in pandaria is legendary, then there's the spirit trainers which are all legendary but they don't count as master trainers for the cheev |
| 23:17.56 | smcn | i believe there's at least one epic pet coming in 5.3 |
| 23:18.00 | smcn | er, 5.2 |
| 23:18.05 | smcn | what are we on now? lol |
| 23:18.09 | Amarande | 5.1 |
| 23:18.10 | smcn | the upcoming patch :P |
| 23:18.24 | Amarande | also speaking of achievements. fix the bloody bloodsail wreckage. :( |
| 23:18.43 | Amarande | I finally get a work schedule where I can regularly get a crack at the fishing tournament and I'm STILL not going to be able to get Salty, dammit. |
| 23:19.53 | Jammer | win the tournament first and then worry about the broken achi ? :P |
| 23:20.01 | Amarande | heh, good idea |
| 23:20.09 | Amarande | you know, ironically |
| 23:20.22 | Amarande | I'm pretty sure the achievement was broken *because* they revamped the tournament, go figure *headdesk* |
| 23:21.13 | Jammer | shame they removed dalaran tournament from the achi |
| 23:21.15 | Amarande | the "mixed ocean school" nodes in Stranglethorn are new, I'm pretty sure they were made this way so they could get rid of the dedicated tastyfish schools etc. |
| 23:21.30 | Jammer | always felt like had better chance there |
| 23:21.30 | Amarande | Jammer: pretty sure they removed the Dalaran fishing tournament altogether |
| 23:21.40 | Amarande | that's because the Dalaran one was pretty much pure luck, heh |
| 23:21.59 | Jammer | hmm ... why would they remove it totally |
| 23:22.10 | Amarande | I'm guessing the CRZ related issues proved insoluble |
| 23:22.30 | Amarande | basically, it was virtually impossible to win the Kalu'ak derby after CRZ went into effect, without either intentionally or unintentionally exploiting |
| 23:22.56 | Rythal | hrmm... when splitting code into modules, is it bad form to leave a couple "If module then" in the main code >< |
| 23:22.57 | Amarande | the crux of the matter was the fact that you could no longer predict what time it would be in any given zone |
| 23:23.16 | Amarande | since in Northrend, only Wintergrasp has a fixed time zone |
| 23:23.45 | Amarande | everything else, you can have up to a 3 hour shift every time you zone without being able to know beforehand |
| 23:24.01 | kd3 | it's the same for stv |
| 23:24.06 | Jammer | in US I assume? |
| 23:24.08 | Amarande | so you'd get out into the zone at the right time for the tourney, get your blacktip shark, then get back to Dala and find that the time had shifted and it was too late |
| 23:24.15 | smcn | oh man i just realized the problem i've been having with locking up for a second when switching zones in northrend/vanilla is probably related to crz |
| 23:24.17 | Jammer | cause afaik all EU servers are same timezone |
| 23:24.18 | Amarande | or you'd get back to Dala and find it was under an hour EARLY |
| 23:24.20 | kd3 | they fixed that by having all weekly events start at the same time no matter what |
| 23:24.32 | Amarande | Then some people would wait, but then other people would accuse them of exploiting |
| 23:25.00 | Amarande | kd3: the difference with STV though is that you never need to change zones during the contest |
| 23:25.17 | Amarande | in the Kalu'ak one, otoh, it was unavoidable to change zones at least once, and completely unpredictable what the time would be when you did |
| 23:25.31 | Amarande | I'm guessing they decided it was just untenable with CRZ |
| 23:26.40 | Amarande | I *did* also notice though that they fixed the "oh shit where did my coins go" problem with world events, too, which is a godsend for things like brewfest :) |
| 23:26.48 | Amarande | (probably more so for west coast servers than east, though) |
| 23:28.41 | Amarande | as far as I can tell, now things that "Requires (event)" don't vanish until you log out |
| 23:28.55 | Amarande | not sure if that was always the case or not |
| 23:32.13 | Amarande | smcn: there's still a few CRZ glitches, yes |
| 23:32.29 | Amarande | the most visible one is getting forcibly dismounted when trying to fly over Wintergrasp, even though it is not in battle on your server |
| 23:33.17 | Amarande | which I'm presuming occurs as a result of it being in battle on the server that you were on for Dragonblight/Sholazar/etc., and lag causing the rule to be enforced just before you're shifted back to your home server when entering WG |
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