| 00:04.49 | VIad | we destroyed the eifel tower |
| 00:04.56 | Mr_Rabies | personally, i feel imperial tends to work better in most cases for people-related purposes, and metric for math and science purposes. that being said, cutting things to 8 and 5/16 inches really sucks |
| 00:05.04 | VIad | eiffel* |
| 00:05.42 | Mr_Rabies | but i guess building things is pretty math-centric |
| 00:05.53 | VIad | :P |
| 00:05.57 | VIad | math and physics yes |
| 00:06.01 | foxlit | "people-related purposes" << this seems vague enough to be a result of personal bias :) |
| 00:06.17 | Mr_Rabies | hence this part |
| 00:06.22 | Mr_Rabies | <Mr_Rabies> personally, i feel |
| 00:06.41 | VIad | look what you did Mr_Rabies http://i.imgur.com/mE6iX.jpg |
| 00:06.55 | foxlit | your feelings would be interesting if you were taught metric from the beginning :) |
| 00:06.55 | VIad | Primer: changed hostname? |
| 00:07.17 | VIad | you should make the old hostname point to a "You didn't say the magic word." page |
| 00:07.40 | Mr_Rabies | but for example, fahrenheit works better with measuring the environment people tend to live in |
| 00:08.04 | Mr_Rabies | metric's better for cooking, scientific measurements, etc |
| 00:08.08 | Mr_Rabies | er |
| 00:08.12 | Mr_Rabies | celcius |
| 00:08.46 | Primer | VIad: I suppose it'd just be easier to block the port...from you, specifically |
| 00:08.50 | VIad | Primer: your wife taking the toyota again |
| 00:08.52 | VIad | :P |
| 00:08.56 | Primer | That's her car |
| 00:09.00 | VIad | aye |
| 00:09.16 | VIad | lol you can wave to me real time and I can giggle |
| 00:09.25 | Primer | I'm at work |
| 00:09.29 | VIad | oww |
| 00:09.45 | VIad | I didn't know, sorry |
| 00:09.46 | Primer | haha |
| 00:09.54 | Primer | she almost ran over that dude on the skateboard |
| 00:09.58 | VIad | :D |
| 00:10.05 | foxlit | Mr_Rabies: better is once again vague. |
| 00:10.18 | Primer | he totally glared at her too |
| 00:10.22 | Primer | punk |
| 00:10.27 | VIad | an idea Primer |
| 00:10.34 | VIad | you can make an illusion and smooth out the fps |
| 00:10.44 | Primer | you lost me |
| 00:10.52 | VIad | you know how the stream is choppy |
| 00:10.57 | foxlit | I would imagine scientific measurements would not give a damn about temperature scale, for instance. |
| 00:10.58 | VIad | since it's an image updating all the time |
| 00:11.08 | Primer | it's not choppy here |
| 00:11.32 | VIad | an idea to make it more smooth would be having 24 image elements overlaying and updating them in such a way that they fade one over the other or something |
| 00:11.39 | VIad | with static images, creating the illusion of movement |
| 00:11.53 | VIad | yeah atm it's a header refresh thingy and no buffering, no issue for you tough ;) |
| 00:11.58 | Primer | Like I said before, this is far from optimal. I'm using vlc's mosaic feature to produce this stream, and the source is the "web cams" for each cam (i.e. mjpeg) |
| 00:12.08 | VIad | yeah |
| 00:12.23 | Primer | I could just use the v4l device directly, but then I'd lose motion capturing |
| 00:12.25 | VIad | you got a server machine? |
| 00:12.53 | Primer | If by that you're implying I don't have enough upstream at home, that's not the case |
| 00:13.00 | VIad | like http://cache.futurelooks.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/synology-diskstation-3.jpg |
| 00:13.00 | Primer | I have 35mb/s up |
| 00:13.11 | VIad | I just meant if you got a neat server box thingy ;D |
| 00:13.17 | Primer | naw |
| 00:13.28 | VIad | bought one for my work to be the internal server, it's a neat litle bugger |
| 00:13.34 | Primer | I just have a plain old dual opteron with some raided 1T disks |
| 00:13.44 | VIad | the servers make less noise |
| 00:13.51 | VIad | it's just a server and a custom built motherboard |
| 00:13.52 | Primer | That machine is in the garage |
| 00:13.56 | Primer | I don't hear it |
| 00:13.59 | VIad | what if it is stolen? |
| 00:14.06 | VIad | do you hear it when outside? what if it freezes? |
| 00:14.27 | Primer | I don't like in Norway :) |
| 00:14.30 | Primer | err live |
| 00:14.36 | VIad | hehe |
| 00:14.39 | Primer | it doesn't get that cold here |
| 00:14.46 | Primer | if anything it overheats in the summer |
| 00:14.49 | VIad | not -20? |
| 00:15.04 | VIad | it was -12 today so much better than -16 like two days ago |
| 00:15.09 | Primer | coldest it's been here is about 40F |
| 00:15.20 | Primer | that's what, like 5C? |
| 00:15.23 | VIad | ~google 40f to celcius |
| 00:15.31 | VIad | 4.44C yes |
| 00:15.37 | VIad | I vote for a ~google feature |
| 00:15.46 | VIad | it returns the google calculated result :P |
| 00:15.58 | Primer | Anyhow, there's a lot more other tempting stuff in the garage |
| 00:16.15 | Primer | That server is tucked away in a corner, and it'd take quite a bit of digging to get it out |
| 00:16.34 | Mr_Rabies | agreed foxlit, but that's how i feel |
| 00:16.45 | Mr_Rabies | no one system is arguably better for every purpose |
| 00:17.01 | VIad | I haven't seen your kids, only your wife. I guess they are inside playing games all day or? :P |
| 00:17.09 | Primer | I just wish motion's v4l loopback worked |
| 00:17.24 | Primer | that way I could use those devices as the source for this stream |
| 00:17.34 | VIad | mm |
| 00:17.40 | *** join/#wowuidev Torhal (~torhal@c-71-207-224-241.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 00:17.42 | VIad | you can code your own movement detector |
| 00:17.43 | VIad | :D |
| 00:18.01 | VIad | raw images - analyze - update the image file on the drive if too different |
| 00:18.12 | VIad | or that's not the issue? |
| 00:18.15 | Arrowmaster | its a lot more complex than you think |
| 00:18.36 | VIad | or perhaps Arrowmaster, you don't know enough? |
| 00:18.39 | VIad | :P |
| 00:18.46 | Arrowmaster | maybe |
| 00:18.50 | Primer | motion already does motion detection |
| 00:19.02 | VIad | what does it do when no motion? |
| 00:19.13 | Primer | http://home.ceregatti.org/camera/cam1/2012/08/13/00-55-32.avi <-- is what caught that |
| 00:19.28 | Primer | http://home.ceregatti.org/camera/cam1/2012/08/05/21-02-50.avi <-- and that |
| 00:19.38 | Primer | it just sits there looking at images |
| 00:19.50 | Primer | videos are only written when the motion threshold is met |
| 00:20.02 | VIad | does it pick up on cats? |
| 00:20.09 | Primer | http://home.ceregatti.org/camera/cam1/2012/08/13/22-46-42.avi |
| 00:20.28 | VIad | can you make it sleep when a certain part of the image is moving? |
| 00:20.31 | VIad | btw nice raccoons :D |
| 00:20.37 | VIad | wedon't got those |
| 00:20.40 | TC-work | I would like to point out that taking out the trash is not a memorable moment....unless it only ever happened once.... |
| 00:21.02 | VIad | but seriously Primer, can you configure it to ignore the cars? |
| 00:21.02 | Primer | http://home.ceregatti.org/camera/ browse that |
| 00:21.10 | Primer | it does ignore the cars |
| 00:21.15 | Primer | there's a mask file over the street |
| 00:21.19 | VIad | ok |
| 00:21.24 | VIad | that's what I wanted to know |
| 00:21.38 | VIad | what is the name of your camera? |
| 00:21.42 | VIad | the once you use |
| 00:21.46 | Mr_Rabies | ralph |
| 00:21.51 | Primer | Bob |
| 00:21.53 | Primer | heh |
| 00:22.27 | VIad | maybe I could put up my webcam to record |
| 00:22.40 | VIad | I wonder if someone enters my home while I sleep |
| 00:22.41 | Primer | These cameras are not web cams |
| 00:23.00 | VIad | I often wake up with no boxers and a headache |
| 00:23.17 | Semlar|Laptop | rape kit |
| 00:23.20 | Primer | http://www.amazon.com/VideoSecu-Vision-Outdoor-Security-Vandal-proof/dp/B000TGC03U/ref=pd_ys_sf_s_172282_a1_3_p |
| 00:23.32 | VIad | nice |
| 00:23.36 | Primer | actually that's a different model |
| 00:23.50 | VIad | USB? |
| 00:23.59 | Primer | http://www.dealextreme.com/p/4-channel-surveillence-video-monitoring-capture-and-recorder-pci-card-with-software-h-264-mpeg4-17848 is what 4 of the cameras are connected to |
| 00:24.04 | VIad | ah it's a video cable thingy |
| 00:24.05 | Primer | of course not |
| 00:24.16 | Primer | it's a 60' cable |
| 00:24.30 | Primer | one camera's cable runs under the house to get to the back yard |
| 00:24.33 | VIad | litteraly 60s cable |
| 00:24.35 | Primer | almost at the limit |
| 00:24.45 | Primer | 60' |
| 00:24.50 | Primer | that means "60 foot" |
| 00:25.47 | TC-work | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1771536748/technology-manager-information-and-technology-stra no, no, no, no, |
| 00:25.49 | TC-work | no |
| 00:26.22 | *** join/#wowuidev VIad1 (~Vlad@128.121.45.31.customer.cdi.no) |
| 00:26.25 | VIad1 | I disconnected |
| 00:26.28 | Mr_Rabies | lol is that a second life screenshot on the "box" |
| 00:26.37 | VIad1 | what did I miss? |
| 00:26.42 | VIad1 | I asked about if it's legal |
| 00:26.59 | Primer | <VIad> litteraly 60s cable |
| 00:27.05 | VIad1 | ah ok |
| 00:27.08 | Primer | <Primer> 60' |
| 00:27.09 | Primer | <Primer> that means "60 foot" |
| 00:27.19 | VIad1 | legally can you record other peoples property like this? like if your cameras filmed your property and caught the neighbors backyard too. |
| 00:27.27 | Primer | Can't wait til my raspberry pi gets here tomorrow |
| 00:27.43 | Primer | As long as I'm not peeping into their windows, yes |
| 00:27.47 | VIad | you bought one now as I mentioned it earlier, Primer? |
| 00:27.58 | Mr_Rabies | depends on the state, vlad |
| 00:28.05 | Primer | no, I ordered it last Friday |
| 00:28.10 | Mr_Rabies | some have strict recording laws, some don't |
| 00:28.14 | VIad | what if you are in the state that is okay with it, but your neighbors are in the other state? |
| 00:28.38 | Arrowmaster | then they wont be close enough for your cameras to pickup |
| 00:28.53 | VIad | let's say you live close enough and on the borders :P |
| 00:29.11 | Arrowmaster | the only cities on state borders tend to have rivers or other bodies of water as the state border |
| 00:29.30 | Primer | http://home.ceregatti.org/camera/cam1/2013/01/16/01-01-34.avi |
| 00:29.32 | Primer | note the date |
| 00:29.35 | Primer | last night :) |
| 00:29.46 | Primer | My dog's been skunked 3 times already |
| 00:29.50 | Mr_Rabies | dude it's a stray cat |
| 00:29.56 | Primer | well, my wife's dog |
| 00:29.57 | Mr_Rabies | you should pick it up and give him a home |
| 00:30.05 | VIad | let's say you have a telescope camera, Arrowmaster :P |
| 00:30.06 | Primer | I take no part in caring for it |
| 00:30.23 | *** join/#wowuidev __jpmorgan (~duncan@bfb.bogleg.org) |
| 00:30.24 | VIad | why not Primer? are you not human? |
| 00:30.33 | Primer | The dog annoys me |
| 00:30.40 | Mr_Rabies | if you're expressly filming someone's property i think that falls into another category |
| 00:30.50 | VIad | let's say you are filming the river |
| 00:30.51 | Arrowmaster | neighbor found a skunk in their kitchen eating the cat food |
| 00:30.55 | VIad | and you also see their house :p |
| 00:31.12 | VIad | you know what we have here in norway? |
| 00:31.31 | Primer | Snow? |
| 00:31.34 | Primer | and more snow? |
| 00:31.41 | Arrowmaster | polar bears? |
| 00:31.48 | Primer | and drunks |
| 00:31.52 | Primer | and atheists! |
| 00:31.57 | Arrowmaster | drunk fins? |
| 00:31.58 | VIad | it's cold - and during the summer we have shitload of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crane_fly |
| 00:32.10 | Primer | I actually like that about Norway, the atheism |
| 00:32.14 | VIad | you open your window to get some cold air in and room is full with those suckers |
| 00:32.30 | VIad | we are not atheists you blasphemer! |
| 00:32.31 | Mr_Rabies | isn't norway like 80% lutheran? |
| 00:32.40 | VIad | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Norway |
| 00:32.44 | Arrowmaster | they havent invented window screens in norway yet? |
| 00:32.56 | VIad | by default you are born a member of the state church, they are lutheran yes |
| 00:33.23 | VIad | it's still christianity if you ask me but not a big craze over it |
| 00:33.53 | VIad | no one is really christian anymore, not that I notice, no one thinks weirdly if you wanna go to church, it's mostly social thingy now |
| 00:34.07 | TC-work | So my boss replied to the email about the IT management game "as long as it involves taking shots, they have a winner." |
| 00:34.32 | Mr_Rabies | even in the bible belt of the united states, it's mostly that way, but the squeaky wheel gets the grease |
| 00:34.48 | Mr_Rabies | most people are pretty tolerant of others and simply don't care to talk about it |
| 00:35.03 | VIad | for kids you know what it means when you turn 16 and you go to church to conform? |
| 00:35.13 | VIad | they do it to get money from their family to buy shit |
| 00:35.26 | VIad | because tradition states you give them gifts (and today it's money) :P |
| 00:35.27 | Mr_Rabies | i've got some lutheran friends who did that |
| 00:36.06 | VIad | you know what I got? I got a home to live in all my life, education, growing up in norway, loving mother and brother |
| 00:36.55 | VIad | be thankful what you have, conforming Just to get more money is stupid |
| 00:37.26 | VIad | am I wrong? |
| 00:37.54 | Mr_Rabies | it's certainly selfish |
| 00:38.06 | Mr_Rabies | if that's truly the goal |
| 00:38.21 | VIad | watching your parents get hit by hard life as a kid sure helps build character |
| 00:38.33 | Semlar | religion is pretty selfish when you think about it though |
| 00:38.33 | VIad | and cherish a bit more what you have, and make you a bit into someone that don't buy stuff you don't really need :P |
| 00:38.43 | VIad | depends Semlar |
| 00:38.59 | Semlar | not really, it's all for an end goal that serves you |
| 00:39.03 | VIad | many get help and help back so their goal is to feel good and to feel they matter |
| 00:39.21 | VIad | depends, if I am to help someone I might as well join a group that is dedicated to help you know |
| 00:39.49 | VIad | sometimes the goal isn't what you are after but the journey :P |
| 00:40.04 | Primer | VIad: sounds like communism to me |
| 00:40.06 | Semlar | no, you can help people without being part of a religion |
| 00:40.14 | Primer | hopes the sarcasm comes through |
| 00:40.15 | Semlar | it's the religious aspect that's self serving |
| 00:40.19 | VIad | you can, but it's nice to feel to be of a group of people that do like you :P |
| 00:40.24 | VIad | Primer: relax |
| 00:40.31 | VIad | what I've heard communism isn't that bad :P |
| 00:40.44 | VIad | it's just different than what you are used too, doesn't mean it's bad |
| 00:40.47 | VIad | different pros and cons |
| 00:40.54 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt work large scale |
| 00:40.56 | Semlar | everything different is wrong |
| 00:40.59 | Primer | Semlar: agreed. Doing good things and being moral do not require religion |
| 00:41.21 | VIad | some people need routines that religion provides, or the sense of belonging somewhere |
| 00:41.32 | VIad | otherwise they feel crap and alone |
| 00:41.46 | Semlar | they should get over that |
| 00:41.50 | Primer | it's self-delusion though |
| 00:41.56 | Primer | which isn't healthy in the first place |
| 00:41.57 | VIad | Arrowmaster: I won't go into a debate as I don't know enough on the matter, I just know what I've heard from my grandparents and parents :P |
| 00:42.02 | Mr_Rabies | oh boy |
| 00:42.07 | Mr_Rabies | relgious debate |
| 00:42.11 | Mr_Rabies | sounds like it's time to get some dinner |
| 00:42.20 | VIad | you have to let people decide, you can't teach someone to behave in a certain way |
| 00:42.20 | Semlar | better run |
| 00:42.27 | Arrowmaster | Mr_Rabies: i already ate :( |
| 00:42.27 | Primer | It usually takes a lot longer to get this going in /2 on my realm |
| 00:42.38 | VIad | if you wanna teach your kid that something is bad you must let them realize it themselves, or the opposite, that something is good |
| 00:43.11 | Primer | That contradicts religion, btw |
| 00:43.12 | VIad | I feel I am trying to even out the playingfield, otherwise it looks a bit too biased and one sided on the religion and communism debate :P |
| 00:43.18 | Primer | where it's "do as we say, or else" |
| 00:43.52 | VIad | I don't think everyone does and feels they must do exactly as these, not sure what to call them, but things like what you just said. |
| 00:44.05 | VIad | it's like the law, no one follows it 100% :P |
| 00:44.18 | VIad | you bend it to suit you better, same probably happens with religious people lol |
| 00:44.19 | Semlar | we call those hypocrites |
| 00:44.26 | VIad | then we are all hypocrites Semlar |
| 00:44.27 | Primer | I'm an idealist. I really feel that true "community" (some might call it communism), would be best for everyone. But the realist side of me says that it'll be a long time before we humans will do away with greed |
| 00:44.49 | VIad | Primer I agree it's not easy. one nice idea with communism is independancy |
| 00:44.58 | VIad | for instance if economy goes to the shit, everyone goes down too |
| 00:45.23 | VIad | but communist china already has the ability to sustain itself so I doubt it would suffer that much as pure capitalist democratic societies :P |
| 00:45.40 | Primer | not entirely true |
| 00:45.40 | VIad | they probably got a failsafe, in the worst case, provide food for all and such |
| 00:45.56 | Semlar | breaking the law is not being a hypocrite, not practicing what you preach is |
| 00:46.03 | VIad | well they are a bit too changed in the current times |
| 00:46.18 | VIad | Semlar: you can select what you preach :P |
| 00:46.24 | VIad | I doubt all services are the exact same |
| 00:46.34 | VIad | you can preach about things everyone can agree with lol |
| 00:46.54 | Semlar | i think there are very few things everyone can agree with |
| 00:47.16 | VIad | sure we can find common ground! |
| 00:47.21 | VIad | for example, we all hate taint |
| 00:47.49 | Primer | not Blizz |
| 00:47.52 | Primer | they love it |
| 00:49.20 | VIad | yeah but they aren't a part of our community |
| 00:49.21 | VIad | :D |
| 00:50.18 | VIad | when it comes to christianity you got many versions and within each version I doubt all the priests preach the exact same thing, they all got their own versions of how they do their preaching and such - each priest has his own community of people ;) like our irc channel |
| 00:51.53 | VIad | I heard Amarande is like me, but he isn't online that much when I am - he is from the US right? |
| 00:53.04 | Arrowmaster | dont ever meet |
| 00:54.18 | kd3 | ^ |
| 00:54.29 | foxlit | flee to #actualwowuidev, problem solved :) |
| 00:54.41 | VIad | I feel that I spice up the channel a bit |
| 00:54.51 | VIad | I noticed I started 3-4 topics today lol |
| 00:59.38 | VIad | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySjk2_4kDQE#t=4m15s |
| 01:14.31 | VIad | Primer: your cameras started to swap to nightvision |
| 01:14.46 | Primer | yes, it's getting dark here now |
| 01:14.50 | foxlit | oh hey, a StaticPopup patch. |
| 01:14.59 | Ressy | in 5.2? |
| 01:15.06 | foxlit | yes |
| 01:15.32 | kd3 | I've still got half an hour left before I can patch the ptr |
| 01:15.34 | kd3 | sighs |
| 01:15.56 | VIad | will the staticpopup patch fix glyph frame issues and talents? |
| 01:16.07 | foxlit | nobody knows what's causing the glyph frame issues and talents. |
| 01:16.09 | Ressy | I have to redownload the entire PTR... Mine botched itself. |
| 01:16.28 | kd3 | start from scratch, let it create the mpqs, exit out, copy all of the mpqs from live over, then restart the ptr launcher |
| 01:16.40 | kd3 | that way you only have ~2GB to download rather than 22 |
| 01:16.44 | Ressy | damn |
| 01:18.43 | VIad | Blizzard did this for you before, but not with the new launcher |
| 01:20.54 | VIad | didn't science teleport a simple molecule? |
| 01:23.57 | VIad | Primer: you can password protect your camera |
| 01:24.04 | VIad | no need to change hostname |
| 01:24.57 | Primer | yes, I know... |
| 01:25.09 | VIad | gonna use php? py? perl? java? |
| 01:25.15 | Primer | That stream is served up directly from vlc |
| 01:25.16 | VIad | let me guess, a javascript password? :D |
| 01:25.36 | Primer | Just need to add the credentials stuff, which I know it supports |
| 01:25.41 | Primer | I just haven't bothered |
| 01:25.45 | VIad | you can actually do it fancy |
| 01:25.51 | VIad | https with certificate |
| 01:25.56 | VIad | and only make a private one for you :P |
| 01:25.57 | Primer | vlc... |
| 01:26.00 | VIad | hm |
| 01:26.10 | VIad | ok this is my idea |
| 01:26.23 | VIad | vlc stream only accessible locally |
| 01:26.28 | VIad | and have your site be the man in between |
| 01:26.42 | VIad | get the latest image and send it to the user if they are authed |
| 01:27.18 | Primer | why would I do that? |
| 01:27.22 | Primer | It streams |
| 01:27.26 | Primer | It works |
| 01:27.28 | VIad | to protect your stream from unauthed access |
| 01:27.43 | VIad | just having a unknown URL isn't directly safely tough |
| 01:27.45 | Primer | All I need to do is add the credentials parameter to the vlc command line |
| 01:28.34 | VIad | didn't know vlc had this option |
| 01:31.21 | VIad | Primer do you have your streams stored as images |
| 01:31.34 | VIad | like each frame stored as image up to last 24 images or something? |
| 01:32.15 | Primer | there, done |
| 01:32.21 | VIad | oh? |
| 01:32.56 | VIad | 1.jpg 2.jpg e.g. up to 24 are frames and these 24 files update fully once every 24th frame? |
| 01:33.04 | Primer | I do not have anything stored as images, no |
| 01:33.08 | VIad | ah |
| 01:33.09 | Primer | that would be wasteful |
| 01:33.10 | VIad | just asking |
| 01:33.53 | Primer | I should ask my son to go into the garage and play the drums |
| 01:34.00 | VIad | :D |
| 01:34.02 | Primer | so you could hear the stream's sound track :) |
| 01:34.25 | VIad | Michael go to the garrage a freaky person from Norway want's to see you. |
| 01:34.43 | VIad | you added auth info on the stream I see |
| 01:34.44 | VIad | smart boy |
| 01:34.56 | Primer | yes, that's what I meants when I wrote "there, done" |
| 01:35.01 | VIad | :D |
| 01:35.10 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:35.21 | VIad | (space in front to not log it) |
| 01:35.38 | Ressy | thanks kd3. 1.85 gig. :D |
| 01:35.49 | Primer | yes, that's a different set of streams |
| 01:36.01 | Primer | which I have not added password to |
| 01:36.11 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:36.21 | Primer | not unless they're in the garage |
| 01:36.31 | VIad | aha, the mic is in the garrage |
| 01:36.35 | Primer | it sounds like the washer and/or drying are running |
| 01:36.38 | VIad | you code this from work atm? :P |
| 01:36.51 | Primer | I hear something intermittently |
| 01:37.28 | Primer | I've coded all of this from work, but don't tell my boss |
| 01:38.04 | VIad | shit you should have used a space in your message |
| 01:38.10 | VIad | prefix with space and logger don't log it |
| 01:38.17 | Primer | meh, I don't give a shit |
| 01:38.24 | Primer | my work gets done, that's all that matters |
| 01:39.32 | kd3 | np ressy |
| 01:40.10 | VIad | it's a shame that youe 35MB turn into 128kB over seas |
| 01:40.30 | VIad | do you have access too http://test.telenor.net ? |
| 01:40.33 | VIad | Primer: ^ |
| 01:41.04 | Primer | well, I'd have to VNC to a machine at home to perform the test |
| 01:41.27 | VIad | lol my network is not as it should be :S |
| 01:41.35 | VIad | what did you do Primer?! |
| 01:41.42 | VIad | supposed to have 70/10 |
| 01:41.45 | Primer | 193ms ping |
| 01:41.46 | VIad | but have 5/1 |
| 01:41.46 | VIad | :S |
| 01:42.11 | Primer | 14 Mbits/S down, 7.8 Mbits/s up |
| 01:42.15 | VIad | lol |
| 01:42.23 | VIad | my ISP don't provide me the proper net! |
| 01:44.18 | VIad | I am shocked |
| 01:44.35 | kd3 | hm. bigger than usual locale patch today... 35MB |
| 01:47.36 | VIad | I must make a program that checks with the ISP speedtest and log down the real speeds |
| 01:47.47 | VIad | this way I can demand money returned if I get low speeds half the month |
| 01:48.27 | kd3 | the contract says "best effort", I'm sure |
| 01:48.47 | VIad | nah |
| 01:48.52 | VIad | I've been paid back before |
| 01:48.57 | VIad | but lucky them it's planned :P |
| 01:49.04 | VIad | but explains my sloow speeds the last week |
| 01:50.00 | VIad | I think for a year or half, I paid by the old plan; 20/2mbit for 80$ and then I had to manually ask them to change my subscription to 75/10mbit for 50$ :P |
| 01:51.32 | VIad | lol |
| 01:51.36 | VIad | check this |
| 01:51.55 | VIad | 70/10mbit 50$ but 100/10mbit 160$ |
| 01:51.59 | VIad | what drugs are they on? :P |
| 01:52.36 | VIad | 2000$ for internet each year no thanks :P |
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| 01:53.50 | VIad | going to bed! gn guys gn Primer <3 |
| 02:16.28 | kd3 | emails out |
| 02:17.39 | Arrowmaster | kd3: YOU ASSUMED WRONG |
| 02:17.51 | kd3 | ...crap |
| 02:17.56 | kd3 | pulls up the diff |
| 02:18.17 | TC-work | That's what you get for trying to raid |
| 02:18.38 | Arrowmaster | do you seriously think i looked at the diff and found a major error in less than 1 minute? |
| 02:19.13 | TC-work | kd3: ^ You can stop looking now.... |
| 02:19.26 | kd3 | I was about to say... |
| 02:19.31 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 02:19.40 | kd3 | the focus frame went poof and I was about to pull open my mpqviewer |
| 02:20.16 | Arrowmaster | im going back to reading my game |
| 02:27.47 | Ressy | "Massive rewrite of some systems to use auto generated code. And now the binary is a few MBs bigger. Mayday, mayday. " |
| 02:29.10 | kd3 | uh-oh |
| 02:32.42 | Funkeh` | lack of an attachment there |
| 02:34.08 | Arrowmaster | kd3: haha Funkeh` really caught me in my lie |
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| 02:37.24 | kd3 | fucking - did I do it again? |
| 02:37.30 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 02:40.56 | bluspacecow | yes |
| 02:40.58 | bluspacecow | Dad |
| 02:40.59 | bluspacecow | :P |
| 02:45.12 | Adys | kd3: your diff is broken |
| 02:45.37 | kd3 | goddamn it, now what |
| 02:45.42 | kd3 | goes back to skimming through the diff |
| 02:45.57 | Adys | i wonder what gullible means |
| 02:46.22 | TC-work | Alright, stop torturing kd3 |
| 02:47.16 | Adys | why. |
| 02:47.30 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/Nv7Ht.jpg alright this really doesn't look that great, i don't think it was worth the effort |
| 02:48.26 | Humbedooh | I see a murloc |
| 02:48.33 | Semlar | warblgarbl |
| 02:48.34 | Adys | Semlar: it looks quite good imo |
| 02:48.49 | kd3 | that's not the murloc sound |
| 02:49.03 | Semlar | i don't know many murlocs |
| 02:49.13 | Humbedooh | RwlRwlRwlRwl! |
| 02:49.30 | kd3 | mrrrrrrgrrrrrlllll |
| 02:49.48 | kd3 | has the murloc aggro alert as his alert tone on his phone |
| 02:49.51 | Mr_Rabies | i think that looks great semlar :o |
| 02:49.59 | Semlar | >_> |
| 02:50.50 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/duKdn.jpg it might just be better to have it separate from the map |
| 02:51.14 | Semlar | i don't know, what do you think |
| 02:51.32 | Arrowmaster | whatever you do it needs a background |
| 02:51.42 | Semlar | i think it looks better without one |
| 02:51.47 | Arrowmaster | i disagree |
| 02:52.02 | Semlar | or at least takes up less screen space |
| 02:52.46 | Semlar | if i could fill in the holes without adding anything around the edges it would look better |
| 02:53.05 | Semlar | there's too many random breaks in the texture |
| 02:53.07 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 02:54.00 | Funkeh` | wait, why is the focus frame gone? |
| 02:55.06 | kd3 | I'm still trying to figure that out |
| 02:56.42 | kd3 | it's being drawn elsewhere - I still have one on the ptr |
| 02:56.44 | Mr_Rabies | semlar, you could fill it with the dungeon's loading screen if you can access that in any sane way |
| 02:56.54 | Semlar | it's accessible |
| 02:57.17 | Semlar | the dungeon journal has some images but they're probably not big enough |
| 02:57.27 | Mr_Rabies | that's true |
| 02:57.57 | Semlar | but i can get the path to the actual loading screen since i'm exporting all this other stuff anyway |
| 02:58.40 | Funkeh` | kd3, is it maybe it an lod addon now? |
| 02:59.24 | Mr_Rabies | tile out the samwise face texture, semlar |
| 02:59.27 | Mr_Rabies | use that as an icon |
| 03:00.05 | Mr_Rabies | er background |
| 03:00.11 | Mr_Rabies | sorry, in a raid and talking between wipes |
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| 03:38.01 | Funkeh` | kd3, did you figure it out? |
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| 03:42.55 | kd3 | nope, raiding. will mess around with it later. tbqh I'm not even sure the old focus frame got used |
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| 03:59.54 | Adys | haha it made wiktionary |
| 03:59.54 | Adys | http://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/capillotract%C3%A9 |
| 04:01.50 | Arrowmaster | what? |
| 04:05.26 | Dagmar | Not even Google Translate helps |
| 04:13.20 | Semlar | farfetched |
| 04:41.55 | pompy | http://www.firstpost.com/business/air-india-grounds-all-boeing-787-dreamliners-after-us-decision-591289.html |
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| 04:46.03 | kd3 | that should be the entire fleet at this point |
| 04:47.57 | Adys | Players in low level battlegrounds will have their effective level raised to the maximum level allowed in that battleground bracket. |
| 04:47.58 | Adys | finally |
| 04:48.10 | Adys | straight out of GW2 isnt it? |
| 04:51.49 | bluspacecow | whats that mean for twinks? |
| 04:53.03 | Kaylin | it means it's all gear based |
| 04:53.10 | Kaylin | not just high levels dominate lowbies. |
| 04:53.53 | bluspacecow | (!) |
| 04:53.59 | bluspacecow | a random kaylin appears! |
| 04:54.07 | Kaylin | purrs. |
| 04:57.04 | pompy | "The FAA's action follows a number of high-profile incidents with the new aircraft over the past week, including fuel leaks, a battery fire, a wiring problem and a brake computer glitch." ekk. |
| 04:58.06 | Dagmar | Well, they could always wait until one lands... you know... "forcibly". |
| 05:12.12 | pompy | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-08/google-android-baked-into-rice-cookers-in-move-past-phones-tech.html |
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| 05:33.45 | pompy | http://nerdreactor.com/2013/01/16/superman-faces-off-with-goku-in-the-ultimate-death-battle/ looks like someone made an html fail. |
| 05:47.00 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7UmUX68KtE |
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| 06:04.09 | Mr_Rabies | hmmm |
| 06:04.10 | Mr_Rabies | The cost of Valor Point gear introduced in patch 5.0 has been reduced by 50%, and the cost of Valor Point gear introduced in patch 5.1 has been reduced by 25%. |
| 06:04.16 | Mr_Rabies | does that mean it's still gonna cost VP? :o |
| 06:06.03 | bluspacecow | subing 20 in .. 50% = 10 25% of 10 = 4 , 4/20 = 0.2 20% of original amount |
| 06:08.48 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 06:08.52 | Fisker | however not so hey Mr_Rabies |
| 06:09.37 | Mr_Rabies | winds up a heymaker punch |
| 06:09.44 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:09.48 | bluspacecow | heymaker |
| 06:09.53 | Ackis | eeep |
| 06:09.56 | bluspacecow | does this mean you now "Hey" Fisker ? |
| 06:10.00 | Ackis | why did you break my fonts in wow bluspacecow? |
| 06:10.13 | bluspacecow | couldn't help it |
| 06:10.22 | bluspacecow | they were sexy , i was cold in need of warmth |
| 06:10.26 | bluspacecow | when suddenly - |
| 06:11.21 | Ackis | my fonts not working is making me upset |
| 06:11.36 | bluspacecow | soz |
| 06:11.42 | bluspacecow | re-install! |
| 06:12.41 | Ackis | it's not isolated to my PC, my wife has the same issue and she's done that addon nonsense... I think you're tinkering with something |
| 06:13.02 | bluspacecow | *whistles innocently* |
| 06:14.59 | Thunder_Child | the common denominator seems to be you Adys |
| 06:15.13 | Adys | you're damn right |
| 06:15.47 | Thunder_Child | errr....crap |
| 06:16.00 | Thunder_Child | I think i'm too tired to be in here. |
| 06:16.05 | Thunder_Child | goes to bed |
| 06:17.42 | Ackis | bluspacecow: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7592400883#5 |
| 06:17.45 | Ackis | go fix nao |
| 06:17.51 | kd3 | oh wow |
| 06:17.54 | bluspacecow | get a mac |
| 06:18.03 | kd3 | apparently they removed the ports to the isle of thunder in yesterday's build |
| 06:18.07 | kd3 | is still on the isle... |
| 06:18.34 | Ackis | macs suck |
| 06:18.37 | Ackis | s/macs/apple/ |
| 06:22.45 | bluspacecow | ackis sucks |
| 06:30.19 | Fisker | yes Ackis |
| 06:30.23 | Fisker | goood |
| 06:33.23 | durcyn | kd3: just mount up and fly away |
| 06:33.42 | kd3 | no flying mounts on the isle (like the isle of quel'danas) |
| 06:33.47 | kd3 | even if I could, it's in its own instance |
| 06:33.58 | durcyn | i know, that's what i was complaining about |
| 06:34.25 | durcyn | this whole schtick blizzard is on about flying mounts ruining immersion makes me want to line them up and slap every single one of them |
| 06:35.24 | kd3 | it's true though. where's the danger if you can just get up and fly away? |
| 06:36.00 | bluspacecow | bitch slap ? |
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| 06:49.45 | Ackis | instead of removing flying they should have designated flight paths that you have to fly by otherwise you get a fine from the FAA and lose your license |
| 06:52.29 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 06:54.02 | Arrowmaster | well i guess thats as good of stopping point as any to stop playing for a tonight and head to bed |
| 07:12.10 | Ackis | Stanzilla: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7591982664#1 |
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| 08:19.04 | bluspacecow | ACKIS |
| 08:19.06 | bluspacecow | i hunger |
| 08:19.11 | bluspacecow | *points to mouth* |
| 08:51.19 | Mr_Rabies | You’ll also see some changes to reputation gains in Patch 5.2 where a player can champion a faction and earn reputation for their first heroic and scenario runs of the day. |
| 08:51.22 | Mr_Rabies | I'm sold! |
| 08:51.38 | Mr_Rabies | that's all i wanted, something other than dailies, even if it's way slower |
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| 09:08.03 | bluspacecow | http://9gag.com/gag/6235772 |
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| 14:07.33 | Ackis | so, anyone in the US want to go to gamestop, spend $120 on skylanders and get me the free sidekicks they're giving away? |
| 14:10.29 | Lopeppeppy | I assume it's Skylanders Giants they're doing the promo for? |
| 14:13.24 | Ackis | yeah |
| 14:14.57 | Lopeppeppy | I've only giot the original series, so nope. |
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| 14:19.51 | Ackis | I think it's just spend $30 on skylanders and get one free but I'm not 100% sure... I hate these US only promotions :( |
| 14:21.16 | Lopeppeppy | Sprocket is a Giants expansion character, and I can't play her. But I ***had*** to have her. |
| 14:21.54 | Ackis | hehe yeah she's cute |
| 14:22.01 | Ackis | I think the whale giant is neat too |
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| 16:44.38 | TC-work | Unkle: http://imgur.com/WKdxp |
| 16:48.03 | Unkle | What's that from, do you know? |
| 16:49.41 | TC-work | Nope |
| 16:50.14 | TC-work | Unkle: http://www.reddit.com/r/wallpaper/comments/15vcim/red_hair_1920x1080/ |
| 16:50.18 | Unkle | It looks 'shopped, but the eyes are very arresting. |
| 16:50.23 | TC-work | link was on the page :/ |
| 16:50.38 | Unkle | Yeah, found it a second after I asked. |
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| 16:54.38 | Unkle | Also, it's frelling cold up in here. can't stop shivering. |
| 16:55.04 | TC-work | heat? |
| 16:55.04 | Fisker- | doesn't hug TC-work |
| 16:55.10 | TC-work | Heated usb items? |
| 16:55.19 | TC-work | <3 you too Fisker- |
| 16:55.22 | Fisker- | np |
| 16:55.24 | TC-work | even with your '-' |
| 16:55.27 | Fisker | too late |
| 16:55.44 | Unkle | Actually, I think I'm coming down with something. Heat is on, and it's as warm as it was in here yesterday when it was fine. |
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| 17:03.39 | TC-work | *sigh* it's only 9am and i already feel like shit. |
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| 17:06.02 | Unkle | ~staple Unkle |
| 17:06.02 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples Unkle quite well, and hands Unkle to unkle |
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| 17:29.35 | Shirik | Unkle: Stapling yourself to yourself doesn't help very much |
| 17:29.46 | Shirik | It probably results in you just dragging yourself offline |
| 17:29.54 | TC-work | No, but it amused me greatly |
| 17:30.44 | Unkle | Freenode has been very unkind to me lately. |
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| 17:32.55 | Lopeppeppy | is kind to Unkle, and small animals. Not necessarily at the same time. |
| 17:33.25 | Unkle | Are you also kind to ships named "Enterprise"? |
| 17:37.25 | Shirik | what |
| 17:37.54 | Lopeppeppy | No. I blow them up once per movie. |
| 17:38.55 | TC-work | Lies |
| 17:39.36 | Lopeppeppy | true story, I enjoy to blow shit up. |
| 17:39.56 | Unkle | Fate protects fools, little children, drunkards and ships named "Enterprise." ~Cmdr Riker. |
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| 17:41.13 | Unkle | Actually, he didn't say drunkards. My brain added that. |
| 17:41.21 | Lopeppeppy | *giggle snark* |
| 17:41.46 | TC-work | Because that's a different quote i think. |
| 17:42.57 | Unkle | My brain is a sea of randomly assorted data looking for something that locks them together in associations that almost, but not quite, make sense. |
| 17:48.35 | Lopeppeppy | You can't get drunk in Star Trek. |
| 17:48.39 | Lopeppeppy | Just Star Wars. |
| 17:50.03 | Unkle | Not true. Scotty gets a load of people quite drunk in Star Trek. |
| 17:50.24 | Lopeppeppy | I thought they made a big deal out of how synthahol doesn't get people drunk. |
| 17:50.46 | Unkle | But lots of alien cultures get hammered - Romulans in particular. |
| 17:51.36 | Lopeppeppy | And Klingons too, I guess. |
| 17:52.39 | Dagmar | Also, Vulcans. |
| 17:52.44 | Unkle | Klingons don't get drunk. They just lubricate the rage and viloence centers of their brains. |
| 17:53.00 | smcn | medula oblongata |
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| 17:54.52 | TC-work | No, in a Klingon that's about 95% of the brain. |
| 17:57.28 | Lopeppeppy | I would have given them 98% |
| 17:57.45 | TC-work | Don't forget sex....though that is about a 45% overlap. |
| 17:58.39 | Lopeppeppy | Especially for Klingons. |
| 17:58.55 | Lopeppeppy | "What are you doing?" "...enjoying myself?" "Then act like it!!!" |
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| 18:14.36 | kd3 | eek; http://i.imgur.com/OTY0I.jpg |
| 18:14.51 | Cairenn | Oh that's not good! |
| 18:14.53 | Lopeppeppy | Somebody is fuxxored. |
| 18:15.19 | Unkle | Shut down the electrical outlets on the detention level! |
| 18:15.44 | Dagmar | *shudder* |
| 18:15.47 | Lopeppeppy | Can you hear me C3PO? Shut down all the electrical outlets on the detention level! |
| 18:16.25 | Mr_Rabies | pfft |
| 18:16.50 | Unkle | No! SHUT THEM ALL DOWN! |
| 18:16.57 | Mr_Rabies | those are for steam-powered devices |
| 18:17.06 | Cairenn | rofl! |
| 18:17.16 | Mr_Rabies | plug them into the water outlet, cut them on, and let the steam do its magic |
| 18:17.25 | Unkle | I thought that was the quick-bbq for making long pig. |
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| 18:26.02 | smcn | revered with tillers and just now noticed the shovel to destroy crops |
| 18:27.54 | pompy | ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LqJcdvZgL8 |
| 18:34.02 | Mr_Rabies | not sure it's illegal, ign |
| 18:34.03 | TC-work | "True and not (False or False)" I would say this evaluates to False since it would be True and not (true) -> True and False = False. But It seems i am wrong. What am i missing? |
| 18:34.41 | TC-work | oh..nvm |
| 18:37.17 | Mr_Rabies | if it was illegal i'm pretty sure mainland china would have not let it be built :p |
| 18:37.37 | Mr_Rabies | they tend to be sticklers for the law |
| 18:37.49 | Mr_Rabies | the government, that is |
| 18:38.05 | Semlar | i wouldn't ride a chinese rollercoaster if you paid me |
| 18:38.35 | Mr_Rabies | i doubt many rollercoasters are made anywhere else nowadays |
| 18:38.44 | Mr_Rabies | they're just assembled here, i'm sure |
| 18:38.51 | Semlar | the ones at joyland were shipped from sweden |
| 18:39.16 | Semlar | so if china had to have them imported i doubt they're all made there |
| 18:40.25 | Semlar | on the other hand, they had to assemble them |
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| 18:47.28 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: Sticklers for _their_ law. For everyone else's laws and regulations their general response is "LOL!" |
| 18:48.10 | Dagmar | They've got two whole buildings full of people dedicated to electronic espionage. |
| 18:48.46 | Semlar | it's not like we honor anyone else's laws either |
| 18:49.00 | Fisker | how is it illegal pompy ? |
| 18:49.13 | Dagmar | Semlar: We generally do, actually. |
| 18:50.20 | Fisker | so if it's legal to murder people in my country you will honor those laws? |
| 18:50.22 | Semlar | in our country? |
| 18:50.48 | Unkle | Dagmar: I think nearly every major nation state has buildings full of people dedicated to electronic espionage - especially since that's a pretty wide field. |
| 18:51.56 | kd3 | shifting gears for a sec... oh wow. standing in my rune of power actually shows up in the base ui as predictive healing now |
| 18:52.02 | kd3 | on the ptr, at least |
| 18:52.30 | Semlar | how about standing in a void zone, does that show up as predictive ownage? |
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| 19:20.54 | foxlit | kd3: the buff is probably treated as a HoT |
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| 19:28.26 | tharper | mikma: when I looked at your weather forecast, the city name came up as Tammerfors XD |
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| 19:39.03 | foxlit | imagemagick arguments are... incomperehensible magic. |
| 19:40.58 | Dagmar | Aren't you glad most of the tools don't require them? |
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| 19:42.19 | foxlit | Dagmar: maybe. Trying to use it to get anything specific done is akin to hitting a brick wall, backing up, and hitting it again until you manage to find some usable combination. |
| 19:42.59 | foxlit | For instance, I want to transform a PNG image by making any pixels with an HSV value of less than say 20 transparent. |
| 19:43.49 | Dagmar | Yep. that will be a little painful |
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| 19:53.43 | mikma | rtharper: oh you bastard |
| 19:54.14 | foxlit | "convert in.png -channel RGBA -fuzz 30% -fill transparent -opaque black out.png" is the closest I got so far, but it's wrong for obvious reasons. |
| 19:54.25 | Humbedooh | Tampere ftw! |
| 19:54.48 | rtharper | Jag älskar dig också =p |
| 19:54.59 | mikma | hehe |
| 19:57.16 | rtharper | and for you, Humbedooh: korleis går det? =) |
| 19:57.27 | Unkle | sound replacements need to be .ogg format, right? |
| 19:57.43 | rtharper | eg veit att du elsker nynorsk ;) |
| 19:57.49 | Humbedooh | korleis....>_> |
| 19:57.54 | rtharper | "hur" |
| 19:57.57 | rtharper | på nynorsk |
| 19:58.00 | Humbedooh | yeah yeah, I know that |
| 19:58.05 | rtharper | ahh, heh |
| 19:58.08 | Humbedooh | I was just looking at you funny |
| 19:58.19 | rtharper | is learning Sunnmørska |
| 19:58.33 | Humbedooh | read that as Surströmningska |
| 19:58.37 | rtharper | hahahaha |
| 19:58.42 | rtharper | fucking racist |
| 19:58.46 | Humbedooh | which would fit you! |
| 19:58.52 | Humbedooh | 'cause you're dirty and what not! |
| 19:58.58 | rtharper | is a wannabe swede |
| 19:59.03 | mikma | humbedooh: oh yummy |
| 19:59.41 | mikma | rtharper + humbedooh : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvAYkY9lfrw |
| 20:00.01 | rtharper | hahah oh nej |
| 20:00.31 | rtharper | what is no in Finnish again? |
| 20:00.49 | Humbedooh | well, it's not juu |
| 20:00.52 | rtharper | hehe |
| 20:00.56 | Humbedooh | and it's ei ei |
| 20:01.01 | rtharper | ah ei |
| 20:01.02 | rtharper | that's right |
| 20:01.43 | mikma | watch it! |
| 20:01.46 | mikma | both of you |
| 20:01.54 | rtharper | later kanskje |
| 20:02.28 | mikma | but i know you'll like it |
| 20:02.33 | rtharper | hahha |
| 20:03.16 | mikma | trust me |
| 20:03.18 | mikma | it's funny |
| 20:04.15 | Humbedooh | yes, it's in Finnish |
| 20:04.16 | Humbedooh | :) |
| 20:05.02 | mikma | it has english subtitles! |
| 20:05.33 | rtharper | BAZINGA |
| 20:05.37 | Humbedooh | that doesn't make it less fun! |
| 20:06.23 | mikma | but it must be good cause haste likes it also :D |
| 20:09.56 | rtharper | And if haste likes something... |
| 20:12.08 | mikma | watch it you pansy |
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| 20:17.29 | haste | I think I watched all of mad cook |
| 20:17.58 | Unkle | I had to read that twice before it would parse in a non-pornographic fashion. |
| 20:18.18 | Fisker | haste |
| 20:18.23 | haste | Fisker |
| 20:18.32 | Fisker | hey |
| 20:19.14 | Fisker | Jerk |
| 20:19.34 | haste | http://i.imgur.com/Gx0x8.jpg :D |
| 20:19.59 | mikma | drifting |
| 20:21.58 | mikma | haste: also, tell tom to watch the episode i linked |
| 20:22.21 | haste | rtharper: watch the episode mikma linked |
| 20:22.44 | rtharper | PUPPPPPPPPPY |
| 20:22.55 | rtharper | haste, can you see the Northern Lights tonight? |
| 20:23.02 | Arrowmaster | haha a valve guy just had to tell another valve guy the bug he was working on isnt a bug because the change hasnt been released to the public yet |
| 20:23.05 | rtharper | It's cloudy here but allegedly they are visible tonight |
| 20:23.06 | haste | while in Oslo? Doubt it |
| 20:23.25 | haste | so cloudy |
| 20:23.30 | rtharper | supposedly one can see them in Stockholm, but it's snowing so no dice |
| 20:24.50 | rtharper | ja her au |
| 20:25.27 | rtharper | a shame |
| 20:25.50 | haste | mm |
| 20:25.56 | rtharper | but Jim and I are going to Lappland in Feb =) |
| 20:26.04 | haste | lives in Norway -- Never seen Northern Lights. |
| 20:26.07 | rtharper | hehe |
| 20:26.21 | rtharper | have you never been to central/northern norway? |
| 20:26.29 | rtharper | My friend says she can even see them from Gloppen |
| 20:26.39 | steino | I've seen northern lights loads of times! |
| 20:26.45 | rtharper | where? |
| 20:26.47 | steino | but I live in northern norway |
| 20:26.48 | haste | I've visited steino and still not seen it! |
| 20:26.54 | rtharper | steino: where? |
| 20:26.56 | rtharper | Tromsø? |
| 20:27.03 | steino | rtharper: south of Bodø |
| 20:27.24 | haste | there was a terrible storm there last time I visited :-D |
| 20:27.28 | haste | poor library roof |
| 20:27.47 | haste | also, horizontal snow |
| 20:28.10 | steino | :DD |
| 20:28.14 | steino | And we went shopping |
| 20:28.21 | haste | and partying |
| 20:28.23 | haste | great plans |
| 20:28.23 | steino | yy |
| 20:28.33 | rtharper | steino: can we come visit you? =p |
| 20:28.45 | steino | :D |
| 20:28.50 | haste | let me know when, so I can time it as well! |
| 20:28.55 | steino | Sure, my place isn't really that big tho :P |
| 20:29.01 | rtharper | hehe |
| 20:29.08 | rtharper | just wants to go to Northern Norway |
| 20:29.27 | rtharper | steino: are you from there originally? |
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| 21:15.07 | Arrowmaster | and im not starting a job next week, it got canceled |
| 21:15.16 | kd3 | >.< |
| 21:15.47 | Arrowmaster | well i hadnt officially been hired for it yet either though, i was waiting to find out |
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| 21:18.25 | Ackis | I hate when shit like that falls through at the last minute |
| 21:20.01 | Arrowmaster | they did have any details on why though so the few theories i can come up with is that the new hardware isnt going to be ready or they couldnt find a 2nd tech they wanted to hire |
| 21:24.18 | zenzelezz | I like how the very first thing the SC2 downloader seems to do is create a shortcut on your desktop. That's before the download moves past 0.0% |
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| 21:43.35 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: wut |
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| 21:44.15 | Arrowmaster | bleeter: i believe the topic at the time was about pidgin on windows not accepting certain accented characters |
| 21:46.53 | bleeter | sorry you lost me at 'windows' ;) :P |
| 21:47.19 | Arrowmaster | fine |
| 21:47.25 | bleeter | no, really. GTK on Windows is serious voodoo stuff |
| 21:48.04 | bleeter | best to ask in #pidgin regarding UI fail on Win32/64 |
| 21:48.08 | bleeter | no offence meant |
| 21:49.10 | bleeter | actually the mail list/s or MUC are better than IRC to get answers 'coz every idiotic arch/gentoo/ubuntu user comes on IRC... |
| 21:49.41 | bleeter | actually there was a spate of Oracle staff members coming on IRC/the mail lists because Oracle forgot to patch the Help->About 'Support Info' |
| 21:49.54 | bleeter | on the internal builds... talk about UNGH |
| 21:50.03 | bleeter | mmmm coffeee |
| 21:50.23 | bleeter | hey, don't look at me. I was watching this performance art last night! http://instagram.com/p/UliG6RoY9z/ (NSFW) |
| 21:52.09 | kd3 | ! |
| 21:52.14 | Arrowmaster | bleeter: it wasnt me that was using pidgin on windows, it was VIad i think, and i know the feeling about random people coming on irc like that |
| 21:52.30 | kd3 | an algerian air strike blew up the BP refinery? |
| 21:52.32 | kd3 | >.< |
| 21:52.55 | zenzelezz | from what I understand the details are still sketchy... but yeah |
| 21:53.08 | zenzelezz | apparently the military attacked without alerting the concerned governments |
| 21:53.25 | Arrowmaster | bleeter: one of the debian patches to XChat adds Debian Server and Ubuntu Server as the top two entries in the server list and #debian on both oftc and freenode constantly get people using some debian based distro asking for help |
| 22:01.27 | Kraps | new: the free travel guide that anyone can edit http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Main_Page |
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| 22:11.52 | bleeter | Kraps: does it have an entry for Earth saying 'Mostly Harmless'? If not, it must be a crap travel site ;) |
| 22:12.11 | Kraps | make your own page! |
| 22:12.34 | bleeter | haha http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Earth |
| 22:12.43 | bleeter | "This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference. " |
| 22:13.14 | Kraps | 19:39, 1 November 2012 Sumone10154 (Talk | contribs) moved page Earth to Wikivoyage:Joke articles/Earth |
| 22:13.24 | bleeter | 14:28, 14 January 2013 Globe-trotter (Talk | contribs) deleted page Earth (can be a confusing redirect) |
| 22:13.31 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.33 | Kraps | 15:05, 15 January 2013 Jc8136 (Talk | contribs) deleted page Earth (content was: "Mostly harmless." (and the only contributor was "157.127.239.146")) |
| 22:13.50 | bleeter | qed, shit travel site ;) |
| 22:14.15 | Kraps | but this is not a joke article http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Moon |
| 22:14.18 | Kraps | wtf |
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| 22:28.09 | kd3 | sure it's a joke article, it just follows the boilerplate |
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| 22:53.53 | pompy | http://steamcommunity.com/guides |
| 22:57.57 | zenzelezz | anyone have experience with having an authenticator removed from your account when you no longer have access to it? Mobile died before I could do anything about it, and the only forms I've so far found on the battle.net page requires a "government-issued ID", which I don't know what to use for as I'm not from the US |
| 22:58.12 | zenzelezz | or EU, whichever |
| 22:59.10 | Mr_Rabies | you have a US account in the EU? |
| 23:00.02 | zenzelezz | no, I just got that wrong at first. But I don't know what kind of IDs I could use from Norway, or what it would have to include |
| 23:01.47 | zenzelezz | hm, seemed to find something... for once the search feature worked well enough |
| 23:02.27 | Mr_Rabies | try to submit a ticket if you can without logging in :| https://eu.battle.net/support/en/ticket/submit |
| 23:05.52 | Arrowmaster | zenzelezz: do you have any sort of picture id |
| 23:06.27 | foxlit | (why would battle.net want picture ID? It's not like they've ever seen zenzelezz in person!) |
| 23:06.50 | Arrowmaster | its not the picture but more that the type of ids they would want are very likely to have pictures |
| 23:06.56 | zenzelezz | got a bank card and passport, but I'm rather wary of scanning those... that's why I've been trying to find out what the "ID" needs to include, so I can blank out everything else, but the freaking battle.net page doesn't say anything about it |
| 23:07.04 | zenzelezz | and it refuses to let me submit a free-text ticket |
| 23:07.18 | Arrowmaster | they probably would want the passport |
| 23:07.30 | zenzelezz | it is listed as a possible option, yes |
| 23:07.42 | zenzelezz | but the passport is rather heavily loaded with personal info that I'd prefer not to share |
| 23:08.04 | Amarande | also, when you do get your authenticator situation straight, make sure you sign up for SMS Protect |
| 23:08.08 | Arrowmaster | so are US drivers licenses |
| 23:08.14 | Amarande | it lets you avoid trouble like that in the future |
| 23:08.25 | zenzelezz | Arrowmaster: I have neither a US nor a Norwegian driver's licence |
| 23:08.59 | zenzelezz | Amarande: I wasn't aware they complemented each other, will have to do that |
| 23:09.11 | Amarande | in fact, that's the main reason I signed up for it, just in case anything happens to my phone, seeing that about the only other things SMS Protect are really good for are Diablo III related |
| 23:09.24 | Amarande | (mainly, you MUST have it on your account in order to collect any real money off the RMAH in D3) |
| 23:09.27 | Amarande | and I still haven't played D3 yet |
| 23:09.31 | Arrowmaster | ive got the authenticator on my phone and my tablet, i should be good |
| 23:10.09 | Amarande | heh, I still remember the big row over SMS Protect, but it's basically US specific, so you shouldn't have to worry about that aspect either |
| 23:10.50 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if i can use it with my google voice number yet |
| 23:11.20 | durcyn | i tried a month or two ago, Arrowmaster, still no dice |
| 23:11.26 | Amarande | big thing (for those of you not in the US and wondering) is that in the US, Blizzard only accepts phone numbers from certain phone companies |
| 23:11.55 | Arrowmaster | they have a way of looking up if the number is a mobile number or not |
| 23:12.03 | Arrowmaster | and google voice numbers show as voip numbers |
| 23:12.05 | Amarande | a lot of people are pissed off about it because here in the States, contract phones (which almost all the numbers accepted are) are EXPENSIVE by comparison to a lot of similar prepaid/pay as you go plans |
| 23:12.47 | Amarande | but barely any of the prepaid phones are accepted (and the most popular ones are definitely *not*, generally), which makes people quite pissed off that they're forced to spend $100+ a month on a contract to be able to collect real money in D3 |
| 23:13.04 | Amarande | they'd rather scale down (especially in this economy) to things like Virgin, but then they can only get the affectionately termed Bobby Bucks :P |
| 23:13.07 | Arrowmaster | didnt know prepaids were blocked |
| 23:13.21 | Amarande | Arrow: it's more like only specific phone companies are *accepted* |
| 23:13.32 | Arrowmaster | but the major carriers have prepaids too, cant you just get one of those and port it to whatever prepaid you want to use? |
| 23:13.35 | Amarande | generally speaking, the prepaids that do work tend to be ones with companies that also offer contract phones (e.g., AT&T GoPhones apparently work) |
| 23:13.46 | Ressy | Its probably because the account is linked tot he phone number, and with prepaid, I believe if you don't keep it active for x amount of days, the # is returned to a pool. |
| 23:14.17 | Amarande | Arrow: actually, that bit makes it worse. the other part of the row is that the databases that keep track of what "type" a phone number is are stupidly inaccurate in today's day and age of ported numbers |
| 23:14.52 | Amarande | basically, if a number has EVER been used for either VOIP or prepaid, even if it's been long since re-ported to a standard contract cell, databases have a tendency to still report the number as such and then B.net rejects it |
| 23:15.16 | Amarande | which pisses off people too, because then even though they have an accepted cell provider, they have to go to all the trouble of getting a phone number change in order to make things work :P |
| 23:15.21 | Arrowmaster | yeah if i ever move and decide to change my cell number to a different areacode ill just port a cell number to my gvoice instead of requesting a new number from gvoice |
| 23:15.29 | Amarande | I'm just glad my AT&T contract phone works just fine heh |
| 23:15.59 | Arrowmaster | i dont want to give blizz my at&t contract number |
| 23:16.37 | Arrowmaster | i highly doubt ill ever give up that contract too unless i start using voice a hell of a lot for a job or something |
| 23:16.52 | Amarande | heh, I have unlimited talk & text on my AT&T contract |
| 23:17.10 | durcyn | t-mobile's unsubsidized plans might be worth porting numbers for |
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| 23:17.40 | zenzelezz | hrm |
| 23:17.41 | Amarande | It's why I'm a little askance at the idea I think ... Dagmar mentioned some time ago that cell providers may convert to a just "it's all data" based pricing scheme (since at the technical level it really IS all data now, on 3G/4G) |
| 23:17.43 | Arrowmaster | 550 peak voice 5000 offpeak voice, no voice is free or unlimited on my contract |
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| 23:17.59 | zenzelezz | I actually found a restoration code for the authenticator, but despite claiming it worked, the generated code is not accepted |
| 23:18.04 | Arrowmaster | its from before free night and weekend and free mobile to mobile were options |
| 23:18.12 | Amarande | because if they go all-data, since there's no such thing as an unlimited data plan anymore, there'd be no such thing as unlimited talk anymore either :| |
| 23:18.25 | Amarande | also of course the flip side: given that voice is so low bandwidth |
| 23:18.42 | Amarande | if they were to go to a purely data based system, I could see them sending data prices through the roof in order to maintain revenue |
| 23:18.48 | durcyn | i would not expect any major carrier to go pure voip any time soon. |
| 23:18.57 | Arrowmaster | that really pisses me off, before everything switched to digital the quality on a phone line was so much better |
| 23:19.04 | Arrowmaster | now its fucking terrible |
| 23:19.11 | Amarande | since the fact that a gig of data gets you so many voice minutes (which would have been formerly charged at a much higher rate) would be something they'd doubtless think about and seek to maintain the revenue from |
| 23:19.27 | Amarande | imagine if each gig of data was priced based on what we pay now for 2,000 or so minutes? ouch. |
| 23:19.34 | durcyn | wasn't there some MVNO that was offering VOIP-only phones recently though? |
| 23:20.22 | Arrowmaster | LTE Advanced (i think thats what its called? its the tech level after the current LTE) is supposed to use voip |
| 23:20.52 | Amarande | Arrow: the tech isn't really the thing, rather the idea of them doing away with separate billing for talk, text, and data |
| 23:20.56 | Arrowmaster | right now everything drops down to gen2 tech for voice |
| 23:20.58 | durcyn | well, seeing as zero domestic carriers have even implemented lte voice yet |
| 23:21.27 | Amarande | because then there's no more unlimited talk at all, and on the flip side data likely soars in order to allow the recouping of current profit levels |
| 23:21.33 | Amarande | (since they will never do it if it would result in a profit drop) |
| 23:22.16 | Arrowmaster | i like the idea of unlimited data but everything after X gets throttled |
| 23:22.24 | Arrowmaster | which is how the one tmobile prepaid is |
| 23:22.25 | Amarande | e.g., right now I for instance pay about $125/month for all the things I have, which include unlimited talk and text and 2GB of data |
| 23:22.39 | Arrowmaster | hehe |
| 23:22.41 | Amarande | let's say they go to LTE Advanced, and in doing so they bill everything as data rather than keeping the old tripartite billing system |
| 23:22.57 | Amarande | you don't think they'll want to lower the price, do you? |
| 23:23.07 | Arrowmaster | $97/month for 3 phone lines and 2gb data on my phone |
| 23:23.14 | Arrowmaster | this is why i like this plan |
| 23:23.16 | Amarande | which raises the spectre of $50/GB data pricing :P |
| 23:25.07 | Amarande | hell, perhaps more. keep in mind that the a la carte minute rate at AT&T is something obscene like 45c/min now when you've used up your plan minutes |
| 23:25.22 | Amarande | and that at typical voip quality, you can get about 2,000 minutes in a gig |
| 23:25.30 | Amarande | $400+/GB data pricing? :P |
| 23:27.46 | Amarande | anyway, the big problem with the porting thing is that if a number is ever used as VOIP or prepaid, next thing someone ports it to their contract cell phone (& worse, if they drop that contract eventually, pretty sure the number is kept by the cell company instead of going back to the original VOIP/prepaid company) |
| 23:28.13 | Amarande | so it's a bona fide cell, but any online services that check what kind of number it is via database still see it as VOIP or prepaid and act accordingly |
| 23:28.25 | Amarande | and those stale flags can stay in the DB for up to a decade, I've read |
| 23:30.06 | Amarande | hate to wave the "conspiracy" flag again, but some folks' theory might be right, I suspect the SMS Protect thing has got something to do with USA-PATRIOT and government-mandated identity verification requirements for money transfers |
| 23:30.35 | Amarande | keep in mind, they don't ask you for your Social or your driver's licence when you set up an account with D3, RMAH or not |
| 23:31.07 | Amarande | I'm presuming they satisfy some sort of legal requirement by forcing you to sign up with a service that in turn forces you to be signed up with a service that *does* check your ID/SSN/etc. (and contract cell providers in the US do) |
| 23:31.14 | Arrowmaster | they dont ask those when you setup an account with paypal either |
| 23:31.29 | Amarande | Arrow: otoh, you can't do much with paypal without providing a bank account |
| 23:31.34 | Amarande | they do ask those when you set up a bank account :) |
| 23:31.52 | Arrowmaster | depends on the bank and country |
| 23:31.57 | Amarande | at least, in the USA |
| 23:32.08 | Amarande | and apparently, the cell provider row is basically a non-issue outside of the USA |
| 23:32.36 | Amarande | even in countries that offer actual real money payouts (apparently in a number of countries you can't even get RMAH money in real cash at all in D3, heh, you can *only* get it in Bobby Bucks) |
| 23:33.46 | Amarande | not surprised, since apparently outside of the US prepaid phones are actually the norm, they'd be shooting themselves in the foot to reject them there |
| 23:35.12 | zenzelezz | "outside the US" is a bit of a broad, blanket statement |
| 23:35.57 | zenzelezz | I don't think most phones here would qualify as "prepaid"; possibly depending on how you interpret the subscription terms |
| 23:36.25 | Arrowmaster | do you pay a fee if you cancel the service before a set time |
| 23:37.20 | zenzelezz | depends on the subscription. Usually I think that's only if you got the phone as part of a subscription, but not always then either |
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| 23:38.54 | zenzelezz | but I really don't know enough about the terms in general, I only watch the commercials occasionally |
| 23:39.20 | bleeter | http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/18/health/search-of-dna-sequences-reveals-full-identities.html?hp&pagewanted=all&_r=0 |
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| 23:47.20 | Arrowmaster | Adys: ping |
| 23:47.48 | Adys | sup my homie |
| 23:47.58 | Fisker | hey Arrowmaster |
| 23:48.09 | Arrowmaster | Adys: i found https://github.com/Razor-qt/razor-qt/issues/510 |
| 23:48.24 | Arrowmaster | Adys: could you look at https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/711 |
| 23:48.28 | Adys | sec |
| 23:49.02 | Arrowmaster | Adys: its about escaping spaces in a .desktop files Exec= line |
| 23:49.11 | Adys | ah that one |
| 23:49.13 | Adys | what about it |
| 23:49.19 | Arrowmaster | steam has the same issue |
| 23:49.27 | Arrowmaster | and is looking for the correct way to fix it |
| 23:49.36 | VIad | Arrowmaster: is bleeter having GTK issues lol? |
| 23:49.54 | Arrowmaster | VIad: no he just said he doesnt want to deal with it |
| 23:50.13 | zenzelezz | if there's one thing the late nineties taught is, it's that all configuration problems can be solved with XML. Clearly .desktop files didn't learn this |
| 23:50.32 | VIad | http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=16b_1357770894 |
| 23:50.35 | Adys | Arrowmaster: hmm |
| 23:50.42 | Adys | Arrowmaster: you should check the desktop file spec then |
| 23:50.48 | Arrowmaster | Adys: i had tried escaping with "\ " and that didnt work in steam, they seem to be fixing that one, i had also tried escaping with quotes as the person in that razor bug report said |
| 23:50.57 | Arrowmaster | Adys: thats the problem, i cant find in the spec what to do |
| 23:51.01 | VIad | what are we escaping? |
| 23:51.08 | Adys | ask on the mailing list? |
| 23:51.37 | Arrowmaster | i think its ok for now since i cant really find any references to escaping with quotes being correct other than that razor bug report |
| 23:51.49 | Arrowmaster | just wanted to know if you knew otherwise |
| 23:52.03 | bleeter | Blatant Advert: If anybody's keen on seeing Two Tribes' games on Steam for Linux (Toki Tori, Edge, Rush, Toki Tori 2 beta), let them know ^_^ https://twitter.com/twolofbees/status/292054697601294336 |
| 23:53.23 | Arrowmaster | bleeter: you wouldnt know anything about the .desktop spec would you? |
| 23:54.12 | VIad | body language article "When a person licks their lips it's a sign of liking you." lol I lick my lips because they get dry :P |
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| 23:54.49 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: I'd be having to look it up |
| 23:55.03 | Arrowmaster | yeah looking it up isnt helping me |
| 23:57.48 | Amarande | guh, I need to find an onyx egg |
| 23:57.53 | Amarande | I'm 400 rep off of revered :| |
| 23:58.00 | Amarande | then I can get the commendation for the rest of the grind |
| 23:58.03 | VIad | hey Amarande |
| 23:58.07 | Amarande | heya |
| 23:58.10 | Arrowmaster | NO |
| 23:58.14 | VIad | long time no see |
| 23:58.14 | Arrowmaster | ONE OF YOU GO AWAY |
| 23:58.31 | VIad | where are you from again, US? |
| 23:59.22 | bleeter | wonders whether Amarande would find the onyx egg faster if mentioning it on IRC was skipped |
| 23:59.37 | VIad | Amarande is a bit busy :P |
| 23:59.46 | Amarande | heh, first I'm trying to figure out wtf they look like |
