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| 02:55.19 | karl_w_w | http://www.omg-facts.com/view/Facts/1737 Fisker is a duck. |
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| 03:09.04 | Semlar | whoops |
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| 04:07.09 | Thunder_Child | As usual you are wrong karl_w_w |
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| 04:56.00 | bleeter | http://arseh.at/webdev |
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| 05:00.59 | karl_w_w | prove it Thunder_Child |
| 05:01.41 | karl_w_w | that is amusing bleeter |
| 05:02.12 | karl_w_w | it also looks a lot more productive than any web design meeting I've ever been to |
| 05:09.54 | karl_w_w | "Will the Australian public really buy Abbott's "white elephant" claims, only to have it replaced with an older, greyer, slower pachyderm that's nearly as expensive to feed, but can't even be taught to spray water on the audience?" love zdnet sometimes |
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| 06:01.07 | bleeter | another observation |
| 06:01.30 | bleeter | I suspect the original game designers introduced the Blacksmith profession only as a trolling method |
| 06:01.39 | bleeter | [Trade] Looking for BS |
| 06:01.45 | bleeter | [Trade] You found it |
| 06:02.31 | bleeter | old gags are old |
| 06:03.48 | xyphoid | Crucible of Carnage was better |
| 06:04.44 | xyphoid | LF1M COC healer never failed to bring an immature smile to me |
| 06:07.37 | bleeter | xyphoid: if you're familiar with the enUK dialect word 'wanker', I can guarantee you'll never see the title 'wakener' the same way again :P |
| 06:07.56 | bleeter | though you may have already heard me point that one out |
| 06:07.59 | xyphoid | oh, i'm in NZ, i love it already |
| 06:08.31 | bleeter | Lei Shi also says something about nipples during her fight |
| 06:08.47 | bleeter | well I presume it's a she because of the nipples talk |
| 06:09.16 | bleeter | I suspect though it's just some odd kerning issue I have there and she's talking about ripples |
| 06:09.58 | xyphoid | clearly the game needs a profanity filter mod that adds it in |
| 06:10.14 | xyphoid | we can replace wand with wang throughout, etc |
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| 06:21.22 | bleeter | haha following flying mounted units when you're on a mount at water surface level is amusing |
| 06:22.02 | bleeter | as in, rotating 360 degrees about 3 times a second |
| 06:22.29 | bleeter | and then, seemingly at random, rotating in the other direction at the same speed |
| 06:22.48 | bleeter | if it were IRL it'd a fun experience, like a kid =) |
| 06:23.52 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 06:27.16 | bleeter | AZIZ, LIGHT! |
| 06:29.49 | bluspacecow | *bursts into flame* |
| 06:41.07 | tzarc | oh man, haven't watched fifth element in ages |
| 06:55.01 | jnwhiteh | chicken good. |
| 07:02.20 | bleeter | cheekan |
| 07:03.13 | bleeter | i'm glad they didn't rush the sequel |
| 07:03.26 | bleeter | though I kinda wouldn't mind it if it were produced |
| 07:05.49 | tzarc | anybody know off-hand of an addon that throws up a boss enrage timer vs raid dps comparison? |
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| 08:42.22 | karl_w_w | <xyphoid> LF1M COC healer never failed to bring an immature smile to me <- on my realm people said simply "lf coc" |
| 08:43.06 | xyphoid | so many permutations of immaturity, i loved it |
| 08:48.19 | karl_w_w | http://gameofthronescountdown.com/ :( |
| 08:48.26 | karl_w_w | too long |
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| 08:50.45 | zenzio | that's not what she said |
| 08:51.27 | karl_w_w | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=502618576442908&set=a.361064320598335.81105.208009342570501&type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf |
| 08:54.18 | karl_w_w | http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/584312.html?CMP=OTC-RSS what other sport would have teams called that |
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| 09:38.04 | Mr_Rabies | a<karl_w_w> <xyphoid> LF1M COC healer never failed to bring an immature smile to me <- on my realm people said simply "lf coc" |
| 09:38.12 | Mr_Rabies | our guild is council of chaos |
| 09:41.04 | Mr_Rabies | i've been trying to convince our GM to change it to council of chaotic [plural noun that begins with k] |
| 09:50.03 | karl_w_w | but that doesn't make any sense |
| 09:58.45 | znf | Cange it to Council of Coc |
| 10:03.51 | sintAcks | I'm using my broken Razer Naga to start getting used to using it until the other broken one gets back from RMA. |
| 10:03.55 | sintAcks | :| |
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| 11:19.30 | bluworkcow | there any truth to this oQueue super spam rumors ? |
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| 11:20.19 | xyphoid | oh wow is mists teh first they've had river currents |
| 11:20.32 | xyphoid | i just got pulled over a waterfall MIND BLOWN |
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| 11:26.36 | xyphoid | naw |
| 11:26.47 | xyphoid | hearthed |
| 11:27.03 | xyphoid | it was the one by the tunnel to kun-lai and i got stuck on a ledge halway down |
| 11:27.24 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:52.10 | zenzio | reading the comments (responses) to Massively's "what was the best MMO expansion of all time?" is interesting... apparently Ruins of Kurnak was super popular |
| 11:52.24 | bluworkcow | *coms zenzio* |
| 11:52.31 | bluworkcow | noms even |
| 11:52.38 | zenzio | USBs bluworkcow |
| 11:52.50 | bluworkcow | *gasp* |
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| 12:00.36 | zenzio | "Cataclysm also broke WPVP"... assuming that's "world PvP", I thought most people considered that dead from BC (or earlier)? |
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| 12:06.56 | nevcairiel | world pvp died with the death of the pvp ranks |
| 12:06.59 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 12:09.25 | zenzio | that's the impression I got too, but I was never into PvP so I've only heard people talking about it |
| 12:09.42 | Mr_Rabies | world pvp died with the addition of pvp ranks |
| 12:09.47 | zenzio | to me it seemed like Silithus and EPL were attempts to revitalise it (sort of Halaa too) |
| 12:10.06 | nevcairiel | i dunno, we had plenty fun in front of orgrimmar farming for pvp ranks |
| 12:10.12 | Mr_Rabies | and battlegrounds |
| 12:10.42 | Mr_Rabies | really? if you didn't spend at least 13-14 hours a day farming bgs you were highly unlikely to get very far in pvp ranking |
| 12:11.42 | nevcairiel | we didnt really aim to get the highest rank (at least most of us), just up to the higher ranks |
| 12:12.23 | nevcairiel | first target was always the rank for pvp mounts |
| 12:12.28 | nevcairiel | whichever that was |
| 12:14.04 | karl_w_w | http://foodporndaily.com/pictures/donuts-filled-with-maple-mousse-and-topped-with-maple-bacon-frosting-and-crumbled-bacon/ yes please |
| 12:14.33 | nevcairiel | i dont get how people can combine sweet with bacon |
| 12:14.44 | nevcairiel | i mean, i love sweet stuff and i love bacon, but not together! |
| 12:15.37 | karl_w_w | i find it's generally not as good as savory bacon |
| 12:15.43 | karl_w_w | but it's still good |
| 12:16.03 | karl_w_w | honey glazed ham is perfectly reasonable, after all |
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| 12:24.52 | karl_w_w | lua> .65*.75 |
| 12:24.53 | lua_bot | karl_w_w: 0.4875 |
| 12:25.51 | zenzio | hm, interesting point of view... comparing vanilla-BC-WotLK with Star Wars' A new hope-Empire Strikes back-Return of the Jedi |
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| 12:59.32 | karl_w_w | no zenzio |
| 12:59.35 | karl_w_w | BC wasn't shit |
| 12:59.52 | zenzio | so you're saying Empire Strikes Back was shit? |
| 12:59.58 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 13:00.10 | zenzio | interesting, I've not heard many people say that |
| 13:00.17 | karl_w_w | vanilla and wotlk were so-so and shit respectively, so that holds true |
| 13:01.26 | zenzio | in my personal opinion I don't consider WotLK a bad expansion, but it didn't live up to BC. This is not considering how they were for anyone else |
| 13:01.44 | bluworkcow | *noms on karl_w_w* |
| 13:01.55 | zenzio | after WotLK the "universe" strayed too far from "my" Warcraft for my taste |
| 13:02.17 | karl_w_w | cata was better than wotlk |
| 13:02.47 | Mr_Rabies | i didn't much care for tbc shortly after launch |
| 13:03.08 | Mr_Rabies | the world wasn't very fun, plus it added a ton of features i think were a step backwards |
| 13:03.21 | Mr_Rabies | flying mounts, arenas, etc |
| 13:03.54 | karl_w_w | arenas a step backwards? hogwash! |
| 13:04.14 | Mr_Rabies | the instances were cool but it was too easy to basically be forcefully retired from raiding if you ever took a break |
| 13:04.26 | zenzio | I've not usually heard people consider flying mounts a step back; what makes you feel that way? |
| 13:04.52 | karl_w_w | you don't experience the world any more |
| 13:04.58 | nevcairiel | i like when they force you to walk through the world once |
| 13:05.00 | Mr_Rabies | they make the world about 3 times smaller, interfere with world pvp |
| 13:05.03 | karl_w_w | it's just carpet |
| 13:05.04 | nevcairiel | like they did basically all the time =p |
| 13:05.17 | zenzio | Mr_Rabies: I generally would agree |
| 13:05.19 | Mr_Rabies | the convenience is nice, but honestly they might as well just make the world 3 times smaller |
| 13:05.43 | zenzio | Outland is probably my favourite continent, the atmosphere just resonated with me |
| 13:05.51 | Mr_Rabies | i didn't much like it |
| 13:05.57 | Mr_Rabies | it was fun once |
| 13:06.03 | Mr_Rabies | after that, hellfire peninsula was the only good zone |
| 13:06.09 | Mr_Rabies | and parts of nagrand |
| 13:06.14 | karl_w_w | hfp is the worst zone :P |
| 13:06.18 | Mr_Rabies | even nagrand has worn out its welcome to me |
| 13:06.24 | nevcairiel | i agree, hfp sucks |
| 13:06.26 | Mr_Rabies | hfp's all i like anymore |
| 13:06.35 | Mr_Rabies | it's outland in my head |
| 13:06.36 | karl_w_w | not just in outland, probably in the whole game |
| 13:07.00 | karl_w_w | and I'm including things like old desolace :P |
| 13:07.01 | zenzio | as much as I know it's not a good idea, I just get real nostalgic looking back at things. Remember how sad I've been to see Light's Hope and Shattrath (or really all of Outland) abandoned |
| 13:07.15 | zenzio | any part of the revamped Plaguelands does not count |
| 13:07.25 | Mr_Rabies | all the other zones are barely related to the overall story except the black temple area of smv |
| 13:07.27 | zenzio | Silithus too |
| 13:07.28 | nevcairiel | shattrath was kind of an ugly city |
| 13:07.38 | zenzio | nevcairiel: absolutely |
| 13:07.46 | Mr_Rabies | everything else is pretty detached from the story |
| 13:07.55 | zenzio | it's only because I spent so much time there and associate my best times in WoW (BC) so strongly to it |
| 13:07.59 | karl_w_w | only if u dont know the story Mr_Rabies :P |
| 13:08.09 | Mr_Rabies | i'm a huge lore nerd |
| 13:08.20 | karl_w_w | so how is it not related |
| 13:08.34 | karl_w_w | well i guess terokkar isnt |
| 13:08.38 | Mr_Rabies | even most of zangarmarsh is basically "welp the naga are extracting water isn't that interesting" |
| 13:08.50 | zenzio | Mr_Rabies: do you consider the lore to be as Warcraft 3 portrayed things? |
| 13:09.06 | Mr_Rabies | only the instances are really related to the overall story, other than hfp and shadowmoon near black temple |
| 13:09.35 | Mr_Rabies | i think for tbc, warcraft 2 and 3 are pretty important as a basis to outland, but it's important to have original storylines |
| 13:09.39 | karl_w_w | that's if you consider illidan to be the whole story |
| 13:10.00 | Mr_Rabies | i actually defended the blood elves and draenei and still think they fit perfectly fine |
| 13:10.20 | zenzio | Mr_Rabies: I'm not arguing for or against, I've just talked to a couple of people who didn't feel the lore was too strongly bound to WC2/3 |
| 13:10.32 | Mr_Rabies | illidan's mostly shadowmoon, hfp's mostly the legion |
| 13:10.50 | Mr_Rabies | the other zones are tangentially related to the story at best |
| 13:11.06 | Mr_Rabies | (outside of the instances within, of course) |
| 13:11.07 | karl_w_w | that's not a bad thing imo |
| 13:11.22 | Mr_Rabies | well, it's part of the reason i quit playing in tbc |
| 13:11.25 | Mr_Rabies | also: daily quests |
| 13:11.26 | karl_w_w | otherwise we get wotlk where all we ever see is arthas |
| 13:11.35 | Mr_Rabies | not true at all |
| 13:11.40 | Mr_Rabies | arthas is incredibly important |
| 13:11.45 | karl_w_w | and u wanna slash ur wrists cos he appears in icecrown after u saw him in near every other zone |
| 13:11.45 | zenzio | I think perhaps I just have a thing for doomed or extinct civilizations; that would explain why I liked Outland so much. Probably same deal with Anarchy Online's Shadowlands |
| 13:11.51 | nevcairiel | i agree, not every zone has to be about the main story |
| 13:12.33 | Mr_Rabies | but you learn the human origin story, valkyrs, vrykul, argent tournament stuff, dragonflight storylines, etc |
| 13:12.43 | karl_w_w | "incredibly important" doesn't need to translate into "flogged to death" |
| 13:12.46 | Mr_Rabies | all of these are centrally related to defeating the lich king |
| 13:13.01 | Mr_Rabies | but you're on his turf, so it makes sense |
| 13:13.16 | Mr_Rabies | you rolled up on his territory and decided to fight back against him |
| 13:13.32 | Mr_Rabies | outland is far from the legion's turf |
| 13:13.49 | Mr_Rabies | at most it was a nice rest area until they blew it up |
| 13:13.53 | Mr_Rabies | a vacation spot |
| 13:13.54 | karl_w_w | exactly, 4 or 5 ppl lay claim to outland |
| 13:14.05 | karl_w_w | and it makes for a better experience to me |
| 13:14.25 | Mr_Rabies | i'm really not a huge fan of illidan or how he's been portrayed in wow, so far |
| 13:14.40 | Mr_Rabies | he's way more three-dimensional in warcraft 3 |
| 13:14.43 | zenzio | I'm not sure whether I consider the most "correct" place for Naxxramas to have been EPL or Northrend |
| 13:15.02 | Mr_Rabies | the end part with kel'thuzad was always in northrend |
| 13:15.22 | Mr_Rabies | naxxramas is just an undead home building anyway |
| 13:15.28 | Mr_Rabies | you can move those around all you want :p |
| 13:15.40 | Mr_Rabies | as long as you're on blight :p |
| 13:15.48 | Mr_Rabies | i think...been a while |
| 13:15.52 | karl_w_w | what happened with bc was they got carried away with showing us all the different crazy things going on on this crumbling rock, and the side-effect was illidan got a bit forgotten and people were disappointed by that |
| 13:16.07 | karl_w_w | then wotlk came along and they overcompensated and gave us arthasarthasarthas |
| 13:16.11 | Mr_Rabies | i quit right around the time ZA was added |
| 13:16.22 | Mr_Rabies | i feel the wotlk story was much stronger than the tbc story |
| 13:16.33 | Mr_Rabies | the legion were cool but they didn't really do much interesting with them OR illidan |
| 13:16.33 | zenzio | during WotLK development, as I was excited to get to do Naxxramas for real (having only managed spider wing + first boss in other wings in vanilla), but given the lack of challenge it turned out to be I was disillusioned |
| 13:17.10 | Mr_Rabies | i feel that karazhan was mostly squandered as well |
| 13:17.15 | Mr_Rabies | it was a -fun- raid |
| 13:17.22 | Mr_Rabies | but the story barely exists |
| 13:17.48 | Mr_Rabies | now, i'm glad medivh is gone, but i'd think his house of horrors would have some crazy story behind it |
| 13:18.05 | zenzio | I'm not sure I could even try to point out a "focus" for vanilla... outside of the plaguelands, the scourge weren't really a large deal. Seemed to be a bunch of different topics, but no central ones as far as I experienced them |
| 13:18.05 | karl_w_w | yeah that could have been way cooler |
| 13:18.08 | Mr_Rabies | instead you get a couple things and people that medivh left behind and some squatters |
| 13:18.29 | nevcairiel | i really liked karazhan, it was an actually fun raid |
| 13:18.30 | Mr_Rabies | vanilla's focus was exploring a vast world and expanding on warcraft storylines |
| 13:18.32 | karl_w_w | i started out in early bc and when i was little medivh felt like the real story |
| 13:19.12 | karl_w_w | then i finished kara and that was it |
| 13:19.19 | Mr_Rabies | develop the story they advanced far from warcraft 2 with warcraft 3, and expand it much further |
| 13:19.24 | Mr_Rabies | that was basically vanilla's point |
| 13:19.28 | zenzio | "Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to this evening's presentation. [...] And now, ON WITH THE SHOW!" |
| 13:19.38 | zenzio | that last part was my wake up alarm for some time |
| 13:19.42 | Mr_Rabies | i basically got left behind with raiding |
| 13:19.54 | Mr_Rabies | my internet at school went to crap and i stopped raiding with gruul |
| 13:19.54 | zenzio | later replaced by "The time has come, the moment is at hand" |
| 13:20.22 | Mr_Rabies | impossible to get back into raiding after i had to quit |
| 13:20.33 | Mr_Rabies | then dailies came out and sapped my will to live |
| 13:20.43 | Mr_Rabies | i think i quit playing a day or two after getting exalted with ogri'la |
| 13:21.13 | Mr_Rabies | more or less, and then canceled sub around when ZA came out |
| 13:21.34 | karl_w_w | see when za came out was when i was getting serious |
| 13:21.43 | karl_w_w | and it helped that i had a lot more time to spend then |
| 13:21.48 | Mr_Rabies | i couldn't get into a raiding guild |
| 13:21.54 | Mr_Rabies | no one wanted to attune anyone |
| 13:22.03 | Mr_Rabies | they were too busy getting important stuff done |
| 13:22.14 | Mr_Rabies | to go through attunement hell for every noob that wanted to raid |
| 13:22.51 | Mr_Rabies | i came back in wrath when icc was out for several months, in preparation for cata |
| 13:22.57 | nevcairiel | sucks to be a noob, but if you were in such a guild, it was actually much fun |
| 13:23.00 | zenzio | attunement and gear gaps were a very definite shortcoming in BC, yet I loved the reasons that caused them; generally an unresolvable problem |
| 13:24.04 | Mr_Rabies | i really hope they fix their daily addiction now |
| 13:24.05 | zenzio | don't think I've ever felt more proud than when I donned my final T5 piece |
| 13:24.17 | zenzio | not for the gear itself, but because of what it signified |
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| 13:24.36 | Mr_Rabies | because they killed my interest before, and they're threatening to again |
| 13:24.47 | Mr_Rabies | they really need to make it possible to gain rep in dungeons |
| 13:24.53 | Mr_Rabies | even if it's capped daily like daily quests |
| 13:25.01 | Mr_Rabies | i'm 100% okay with that |
| 13:25.23 | Mr_Rabies | (especially if it shares a cap with daily quests) |
| 13:25.29 | karl_w_w | no, they really really don't need to make it possible to gain rep in dungeons |
| 13:25.35 | karl_w_w | it's never been a good thing |
| 13:25.36 | zenzio | after I finished T1 WotLK, I quit WoW. Returned a few months before Cata, quested to 85, left a few weeks later. Same with MoP, I just can't seem to rekindle the old love :( |
| 13:25.40 | Mr_Rabies | why not? not everyone likes doing daily quests |
| 13:25.48 | Mr_Rabies | most people don't, in fact |
| 13:25.57 | Semlar | reducing the diversity will probably actually make dungeons less enjoyable |
| 13:26.11 | Mr_Rabies | diversity? |
| 13:26.29 | karl_w_w | rep from dungeons adds literally nothing to the game |
| 13:26.40 | Semlar | by making it so you can get everything you want from one place you'll just be doing the dungeons over and over again until you're sick of them |
| 13:26.42 | Mr_Rabies | i feel rep from dailies adds literally nothing to the game |
| 13:26.47 | Mr_Rabies | so we're at an impasse, it seems |
| 13:26.51 | karl_w_w | you already get your loot for doing the dungeon and your points as a more general grindy build-up |
| 13:27.17 | Mr_Rabies | Semlar: not if they also have dailies available |
| 13:27.30 | karl_w_w | it would be better to abolish rep than go back to the stupid tabard design of wotlk and cata |
| 13:27.33 | Mr_Rabies | instead, i'm getting sick of the world in general because every patch is another daily quest rep grind |
| 13:28.16 | Mr_Rabies | i'm just saying rep from dungeons, not tabards |
| 13:28.38 | VIad | might aswell consolidate the item grind with the rep grind :P |
| 13:28.43 | karl_w_w | so you want bc style where you have to grind specific dungeons over and over whether you hate them or not? |
| 13:28.47 | Mr_Rabies | i'm probably not going to do the isle of giants quests at this rate |
| 13:28.54 | Mr_Rabies | i didn't say that either, karl_w_w |
| 13:29.01 | karl_w_w | what else is there? :P |
| 13:29.03 | VIad | wotlk had the tabards system |
| 13:29.08 | Mr_Rabies | you're thinking in the box too much |
| 13:29.16 | VIad | you could grind what ever dungeon you needed/wanted for any rep |
| 13:29.31 | karl_w_w | either you get any rep from whatever dungeon, or you get rep from specific dungeons |
| 13:29.32 | VIad | in addition to the small amount of dailies each faction had |
| 13:30.18 | Mr_Rabies | i think blizzard could come up with a better system |
| 13:30.36 | karl_w_w | they could, but it wouldn't involve rep from dungeons |
| 13:30.39 | VIad | you don't get it? |
| 13:30.51 | Mr_Rabies | as is, having one method for rep gain is terrible design and is seriously threatening to harm subscription numbers |
| 13:30.59 | VIad | they want you to play for a long time :P |
| 13:31.03 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 13:31.08 | Mr_Rabies | instead, it makes me not want to play at all |
| 13:31.25 | VIad | many are addicted to maxing out numbers, including rep, if it takes a month they will be subscribed for a month to do it :D |
| 13:31.33 | Mr_Rabies | i look forward to the time where i can stop grinding stuff out and just have fun every time they add another grind |
| 13:32.19 | Mr_Rabies | daily quests feel like work, but i enjoy dungeons |
| 13:32.23 | Mr_Rabies | especially dungeons with friends |
| 13:32.48 | Mr_Rabies | dungeons with idiots is pretty frustrating, but i mostly manage by whining in here for every bad group i have to deal with |
| 13:33.12 | karl_w_w | heroics are mostly pointless anyway now |
| 13:33.21 | Mr_Rabies | still, dungeons with idiots are a lot more interesting than daily quests |
| 13:33.22 | karl_w_w | i stopped doing heroics long before dailies |
| 13:33.36 | Mr_Rabies | i got each rep to revered and stopped that day |
| 13:33.53 | Mr_Rabies | and didn't bother with anglers or cloud serpents |
| 13:33.59 | zenzio | the dungeon finder, while probably overall a good thing, I actually didn't like. Sure you still get LFM spam on trade, but before the dungeon tool, I felt more connected to my realm |
| 13:34.00 | Mr_Rabies | as a result, i'm out of lesser charms :| |
| 13:34.09 | karl_w_w | i got them all to exalted before they nerfed the beloved title achievement :P |
| 13:34.14 | karl_w_w | so before 5.1 |
| 13:34.21 | Mr_Rabies | well, you'd have to be, waiting in trade chat for 2 hours trying to get a damned mechanar run going |
| 13:34.24 | karl_w_w | it was like 1 day before in fact |
| 13:35.10 | zenzio | Mr_Rabies: I'm generally not in a position to be objective about it, since I've always been a tank, so I rarely had to wait for long |
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| 13:35.53 | Mr_Rabies | the only questlines i continued past where i was required to to progress with my guild were august celestials until i finished the crane temple story |
| 13:36.27 | karl_w_w | i still havent finished dailies :P |
| 13:36.32 | Mr_Rabies | and shieldwall because of the storyline, i only did the dailies i liked and took forever to complete the story |
| 13:36.40 | karl_w_w | because I don't have all the shado-pan daily achievements |
| 13:36.50 | Mr_Rabies | i don't think i have 1/10th of them |
| 13:36.50 | karl_w_w | but I'm not doing them now or in the foreseeable |
| 13:36.55 | Mr_Rabies | and i don't even care anymore |
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| 13:37.21 | Mr_Rabies | i'm done with shado-pan until return of the undead gnome legion |
| 13:37.39 | Mr_Rabies | i didn't even do quests in townlong or krasarang |
| 13:37.45 | Mr_Rabies | dailies have made those zones uninteresting to me |
| 13:37.57 | Mr_Rabies | i originally planned on doing them once i hit 90 |
| 13:38.01 | Mr_Rabies | for fun |
| 13:38.10 | Mr_Rabies | fun's over now, questing now feels like work |
| 13:38.46 | Mr_Rabies | i don't even read the daily quest text anymore because i know it's never important |
| 13:39.10 | Mr_Rabies | it's literally just busy work to slow progression down |
| 13:39.13 | Lopeppeppy | Go kill 50 zeebritz and come back. |
| 13:39.18 | Mr_Rabies | there's gotta be a better system |
| 13:39.34 | Mr_Rabies | i agree it's important to have caps and stuff on rep |
| 13:39.46 | Mr_Rabies | but dailies have gotta go, they're way too heavy-handed with them this expansion |
| 13:39.57 | Mr_Rabies | just like phasing and cutscenes in cata |
| 13:40.36 | Mr_Rabies | you barely see any cata-style phasing and storylines on rails in mists, and almost all the cutscenes take place in the game instead of in a 'cutscene' |
| 13:40.59 | Mr_Rabies | it'll hopefully be the same soon with dailies |
| 13:41.13 | zenzio | has there really been any non-Wrathgate pre-rendered cutscenes? |
| 13:41.27 | Mr_Rabies | a few here and there |
| 13:41.44 | Mr_Rabies | end of wrath, dragon aspects in DS, etc |
| 13:41.59 | Mr_Rabies | but i mean ones that go into "cutscene mode," realtime graphics or pre-rendered |
| 13:42.15 | Mr_Rabies | they're a lot more selective with those in MoP |
| 13:42.30 | zenzio | oh, I see |
| 13:42.35 | Mr_Rabies | like, every other quest in uldum would suddenly rip the camera out of your hands and move it around |
| 13:43.00 | Mr_Rabies | i don't mind it too much for uldum because it's all indiana jonesy |
| 13:43.17 | Mr_Rabies | uldum's probably my favorite zone from cata |
| 13:43.48 | Mr_Rabies | the beginning of hyjal's cool but it loses a lot of its focus after you start going from shrine to shrine |
| 13:44.21 | Mr_Rabies | vashj'ir is a cool concept but underwater levels continue to be annoying as heck |
| 13:45.28 | karl_w_w | there was a pre-rendered cutscene in jade forest |
| 13:45.33 | Mr_Rabies | anyway i'm tired and ranting |
| 13:45.35 | VIad | yes karl |
| 13:45.41 | karl_w_w | where the horde and alliance start fighting |
| 13:45.45 | VIad | proceed Mr_Rabies :) |
| 13:45.46 | Mr_Rabies | it's 9am and i haven't been to bed yet |
| 13:45.48 | karl_w_w | and the sha comes and makes poopy |
| 13:45.56 | Mr_Rabies | ah yeah, the jade serpent statue thing |
| 13:46.05 | zenzio | on a non-gameplay related side, I really agree with the people who say WoW has turned into too much of a "pop culture reference" piece |
| 13:46.12 | Mr_Rabies | i still don't really get what's going on there |
| 13:46.14 | karl_w_w | i missed that until i went back for loremaster |
| 13:46.21 | karl_w_w | so i missed half the storyline, yay |
| 13:46.49 | Mr_Rabies | so we start a war and break something that took all those years to build |
| 13:46.58 | Mr_Rabies | and somehow that ends up being a good thing? |
| 13:47.08 | karl_w_w | the war causes the sha to manifest proper |
| 13:47.22 | Mr_Rabies | because we kill the lady in the jade temple instance that wants to resurrect the jade dragon? |
| 13:47.22 | VIad | I miss the warcraft 3 storyline |
| 13:47.23 | VIad | :P |
| 13:47.32 | Mr_Rabies | warcraft 3 storyline was pretty limited |
| 13:47.32 | VIad | I mean, wow is an extension yes but so slow paced |
| 13:47.38 | karl_w_w | not sure |
| 13:47.50 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 13:47.57 | Mr_Rabies | see, i really dig the overall story of MoP |
| 13:48.07 | VIad | I wish for more voiceacting |
| 13:48.10 | Mr_Rabies | but the dailies are making my interest wane in questing in general |
| 13:48.11 | VIad | it made it more livly |
| 13:48.14 | VIad | lively |
| 13:48.19 | Mr_Rabies | MoP's got a TON of voice acting |
| 13:48.38 | karl_w_w | are u alliance Mr_Rabies? |
| 13:48.47 | VIad | compare to swtor |
| 13:48.49 | VIad | skyrim, e.g. |
| 13:48.54 | VIad | I mean all quests should be voice acted :P |
| 13:48.58 | VIad | that kind of style of mmo |
| 13:49.02 | VIad | more immersive |
| 13:49.05 | VIad | than evar! |
| 13:49.06 | Mr_Rabies | it's a good idea in theory |
| 13:49.09 | Mr_Rabies | until you get 30gb patches |
| 13:49.10 | karl_w_w | swtor, the game that single-handedly showed you can have too much voice acting? yeah |
| 13:49.15 | karl_w_w | good luck with that |
| 13:49.27 | VIad | we are only talking about the expansion content :P |
| 13:49.29 | Mr_Rabies | and patches take a lot longer because good voice actors are expensive |
| 13:49.31 | VIad | not everything old too |
| 13:49.35 | Mr_Rabies | or the return of metzencraft happens |
| 13:49.41 | VIad | dailies don't need voice acting |
| 13:49.56 | karl_w_w | u just said u want more voice acting :P |
| 13:50.04 | Mr_Rabies | where suddenly jaina's got a deep, manly california accent because they can't pay her VA anymore |
| 13:50.11 | karl_w_w | haha |
| 13:50.12 | Mr_Rabies | and yeah, karl_w_w, i'm alliance |
| 13:50.14 | VIad | more, not everything |
| 13:50.33 | karl_w_w | have u done the shieldwall dailies? they should get u back into questing |
| 13:50.34 | VIad | the story should be all voice acted to keep me interested trough the leveling process and beyond on the main events ;) |
| 13:50.47 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, but i stopped doing most of the dailies after a while |
| 13:51.00 | Mr_Rabies | i just skipped days that had dailies in the ruins |
| 13:51.02 | Mr_Rabies | no thanks |
| 13:51.03 | VIad | exalted with all |
| 13:51.08 | VIad | :( |
| 13:51.12 | VIad | even cooking guys |
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| 13:51.35 | karl_w_w | voice acting for level-up quests is pretty pointless most of the time |
| 13:51.55 | Mr_Rabies | i'd rather have gotten all the rep i needed more slowly from just doing the storyline quests, honestly |
| 13:52.03 | VIad | it's called getting drawn into the story so you give a shit to follow it up :P |
| 13:52.05 | karl_w_w | if it's a certain important story development then sure, but they already do that |
| 13:52.11 | Mr_Rabies | i don't feel like i contributed to anything in any meaningful way with the daily quests |
| 13:52.21 | Mr_Rabies | for -any- of the factions |
| 13:52.23 | VIad | difference for new players or people that want to be immersed in the story and not focus purely to get to max level to raid |
| 13:52.44 | karl_w_w | u should get some rep from levelling quests for sure |
| 13:52.47 | karl_w_w | it just makes sense |
| 13:52.59 | Mr_Rabies | eh, i don't think voice acting's a good thing for nonessential non-storyline quests at all |
| 13:53.04 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, i think that's part of the problem |
| 13:53.10 | VIad | people like different things, I don't see a problem to add options, a checkbox to turn off voice acting and there you go if you don't like it ;D |
| 13:53.13 | Mr_Rabies | you should be able to get to like, honored by the time you're 90 |
| 13:53.26 | Mr_Rabies | instead you basically don't progress other than leveling until you hit 90 |
| 13:53.32 | karl_w_w | and maybe rep from certain achievements |
| 13:53.41 | Mr_Rabies | and then you've gotta do 10x the work you did while leveling all at once |
| 13:53.46 | karl_w_w | if the achievement directly helps the faction |
| 13:53.48 | Mr_Rabies | it's really driving a ton of people away |
| 13:53.54 | VIad | blizzard would only adjust the rep given by the max level quests if you earned rep during level up process |
| 13:54.01 | Mr_Rabies | i don't even feel the dailies directly help the faction, karl_w_w |
| 13:54.03 | VIad | to compensate and make it last equally long to get to exalted :P |
| 13:54.11 | karl_w_w | it's like the shado-pan levelling quest where the huge bug breaks through the wall |
| 13:54.15 | Mr_Rabies | they seem about as interesting as the tabards |
| 13:54.16 | Mr_Rabies | if even |
| 13:54.29 | karl_w_w | u just saved pandaria from this huge invasion almost single-handedly |
| 13:54.31 | Mr_Rabies | oh, i skipped all the shado-pan dailies that take place at sra'vess after a couple times, too |
| 13:54.35 | karl_w_w | and u dont get any rep from it |
| 13:54.51 | Mr_Rabies | i got tired of dying 5-6 times every day the dailies were there |
| 13:54.54 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:54.54 | Mr_Rabies | in semi-raid gear |
| 13:54.58 | bluworkcow | CARROT! |
| 13:55.24 | Mr_Rabies | i really, really hope they come up with alternative methods of getting rep soon |
| 13:55.36 | Mr_Rabies | these mindless dailies are starting to really, really upset me |
| 13:55.40 | karl_w_w | rep from proving grounds |
| 13:55.45 | karl_w_w | whatever happened to those |
| 13:56.10 | Mr_Rabies | i don't see why instances in some form or fashion aren't an option |
| 13:56.29 | Mr_Rabies | capped just like dailies, but a method for people who dislike dailies to get rep |
| 13:56.44 | karl_w_w | because you already get gear from dungeons in 2 ways |
| 13:56.55 | Mr_Rabies | you get gear from rep, too |
| 13:57.00 | karl_w_w | exactly |
| 13:57.23 | Mr_Rabies | i dont get what you're saying |
| 13:57.28 | karl_w_w | so you are getting both the vp and the rep u need for gear from the same method |
| 13:57.30 | Mr_Rabies | i don't see why it has to be a balancing act |
| 13:57.33 | karl_w_w | it's pointless |
| 13:57.39 | VIad | some orcs speak orcish, some speak common :p |
| 13:57.41 | karl_w_w | u may as well just not have one of those things |
| 13:57.43 | VIad | consistency! |
| 13:57.45 | Mr_Rabies | dailies are pointless, as well |
| 13:57.46 | karl_w_w | remove the rep requirement from gear |
| 13:58.09 | karl_w_w | dailies are not pointless, u get rep from them |
| 13:58.11 | VIad | oh doesn't the rare spawn drake mount thingy with crystals require exalted to learn? :D |
| 13:58.46 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, but they're pointless, karl_w_w |
| 13:59.03 | Mr_Rabies | what's the point? getting rep |
| 13:59.08 | Mr_Rabies | what about people that hate dailies? |
| 13:59.13 | Mr_Rabies | either do something you hate, or don't get rep |
| 13:59.16 | Mr_Rabies | excellent design! |
| 13:59.26 | karl_w_w | it might not be enjoyable, but at least there is a mechanic there to encourage it |
| 13:59.38 | Mr_Rabies | every part of the game design should be enjoyable |
| 13:59.41 | VIad | I don't understand why you are not raging over the design of http://www.wowhead.com/item=90655 :P |
| 13:59.49 | Mr_Rabies | unless it's optional |
| 13:59.49 | karl_w_w | yes it should |
| 14:00.02 | Mr_Rabies | in which case, it could be subjectively enjoyable to someone |
| 14:00.12 | VIad | you first farm 10 skyshards that have very low drop chance in the vale of eternal blossoms, then you kill the rare dragon and you then need to get exalted to learn it :D |
| 14:00.52 | karl_w_w | in your world you do heroics and get both rep and vp. at some point you get the rep -or- the vp you need for something, and then you're just waiting for the other one |
| 14:01.05 | karl_w_w | at this point, the criteria you already met is worthless |
| 14:01.07 | Mr_Rabies | but as long as it's mandatory to do something to progress the primary game, there should be options to at least hit the majority of the playerbase to get rewarded for doing something they enjoy |
| 14:01.12 | karl_w_w | u were gonna keep doing heroics anyway |
| 14:01.22 | karl_w_w | so what purpose is that first criteria serving? |
| 14:01.57 | Mr_Rabies | well part of that problem is redesigning vp |
| 14:02.27 | Mr_Rabies | it's not supposed to be the currency for active raiders anymore, except it is, because of upgrades |
| 14:02.32 | VIad | I got a genious idea - sorry for offtopic - but all smartphones should have an option from the call "app" to be able to take a number and query some address that you specify for information on the caller :D |
| 14:02.46 | karl_w_w | you have 2 components required to get gear, if you get both components from the same place the 2 component mechanic is wasted |
| 14:02.52 | karl_w_w | that's all there is to it |
| 14:03.00 | Mr_Rabies | i don't think the 2 component method is necessary |
| 14:03.17 | karl_w_w | sure, so just remove rep requirement from gear like i said |
| 14:03.21 | VIad | why haven't anyone done this? make it support urls (with cache/sync) or some internal formats of db for lookup and let the user decide what service they use for this, if they make their own list, e.g. :D |
| 14:03.32 | Mr_Rabies | problem with that is it returns rep to being useless again |
| 14:03.36 | Mr_Rabies | which i don't really have a problem with |
| 14:03.38 | karl_w_w | so? :P |
| 14:03.45 | Mr_Rabies | but blizzard does |
| 14:03.50 | Mr_Rabies | there's gotta be a happy medium |
| 14:04.01 | Mr_Rabies | some way for people that hate dailies to get rep |
| 14:04.10 | Mr_Rabies | even if it's redesigning dailies |
| 14:04.17 | karl_w_w | it doesn't make it useless, it only makes it useless to hardcore raiders who pay no attention to anything else |
| 14:04.25 | Mr_Rabies | the biggest problem with dailies is repetition |
| 14:04.40 | Mr_Rabies | if they made the dailies, instead, the storyline quests, and they never repeated |
| 14:04.50 | Mr_Rabies | that would solve most of the issues with dailies |
| 14:05.13 | karl_w_w | some of the dailies were fine |
| 14:05.17 | Mr_Rabies | right now they're making the majority of the populace do something they don't like as a huge part of their daily game time |
| 14:05.25 | karl_w_w | august celestials were perfect imo |
| 14:05.28 | Mr_Rabies | and it's going to show on the subcription numbers |
| 14:05.43 | Mr_Rabies | i only did the other temples once |
| 14:05.53 | Mr_Rabies | i did the red crane dailies because of the storyline quests |
| 14:05.59 | Mr_Rabies | despite how much the red crane dailies actually sucked |
| 14:06.12 | Mr_Rabies | the storyline quests were cool |
| 14:06.17 | VIad | red crane oh boy |
| 14:06.20 | Mr_Rabies | once i finished them, i stopped AC rep entirely |
| 14:06.23 | karl_w_w | the other temples had a little variation in the dailies you got |
| 14:06.30 | VIad | what happened with the "rival" thing? |
| 14:06.36 | Mr_Rabies | it continues |
| 14:06.38 | VIad | she sent me some mail, but nothing |
| 14:06.45 | VIad | hit exalted, never continued it |
| 14:06.47 | karl_w_w | u have to keep going back |
| 14:06.48 | VIad | no showdown |
| 14:06.55 | Mr_Rabies | you gotta keep doing dailies and fighting more and more people there |
| 14:07.01 | Mr_Rabies | the story progresses |
| 14:07.06 | VIad | cba as it's a rep grind fest and once exalted, even if I wanna see the story trough it was too slow progressing |
| 14:07.13 | VIad | like watching an anime that plans to air 500 episodes |
| 14:07.15 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 14:07.23 | karl_w_w | it was too long |
| 14:07.33 | Mr_Rabies | i just did that and stopped once that story was over |
| 14:07.40 | VIad | like it was made for people with obsession disorder |
| 14:07.41 | karl_w_w | woulda been better if we knew ahead of time so we'd stop doing the others once we hit revered |
| 14:07.51 | karl_w_w | and just let the red crane ones take us to exalted :P |
| 14:07.55 | VIad | :P |
| 14:08.04 | Mr_Rabies | i only did red crane after doing the other temples once |
| 14:08.05 | VIad | or just have the quest progress based on your rep standing |
| 14:08.09 | Mr_Rabies | because i knew it was the only one with a storyline |
| 14:08.18 | VIad | so they made sure you did the showdown part and ended it once exalted |
| 14:08.37 | karl_w_w | there was one daily at temple of the white tiger |
| 14:08.47 | karl_w_w | where u had to do like an obstacle course |
| 14:08.50 | karl_w_w | it was fuckin hard |
| 14:08.51 | Mr_Rabies | running the torch up? |
| 14:08.53 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 14:08.56 | VIad | it's awesome ;D |
| 14:08.58 | VIad | not that hard |
| 14:09.00 | Mr_Rabies | i didn't have any problems |
| 14:09.08 | Mr_Rabies | it was annoying, sure |
| 14:09.09 | Mr_Rabies | but not hard |
| 14:09.15 | Mr_Rabies | that's the big problem |
| 14:09.16 | karl_w_w | well every1 on my realm had trouble for 2 reasons :P |
| 14:09.27 | Mr_Rabies | time spent has again replaced difficulty |
| 14:09.31 | karl_w_w | we're all oceanic and stuff like that is very sensitive to latency |
| 14:09.38 | Mr_Rabies | and i'm not a fan of rewarding time spent vs skill |
| 14:09.40 | karl_w_w | and also we're a pretty serious pvp realm :P |
| 14:10.11 | karl_w_w | people would stand at the end of the bridge attacking ppl :P |
| 14:10.26 | karl_w_w | or just leaving hunter traps there perpetually |
| 14:10.27 | VIad | I think most proper gamers play horde |
| 14:10.32 | VIad | :P |
| 14:10.44 | karl_w_w | that's because you're hard of thinking |
| 14:10.49 | Mr_Rabies | horde's for chumps who play blood elves and undead exclusively |
| 14:11.05 | Mr_Rabies | orcs have the coolest animations, but i always felt like the only orc on my hordie |
| 14:11.19 | VIad | it's just when it comes to pvp they seem better organized at it, this is coming from two different realms, one where horde were majority and now when alliance is, same deal :P |
| 14:11.36 | Mr_Rabies | i haven't pvped since mid-cata |
| 14:11.42 | Mr_Rabies | burned myself out on it |
| 14:11.55 | karl_w_w | depends what u consider organized and what you consider pvp VIad |
| 14:12.05 | VIad | battlegrounds |
| 14:12.12 | Mr_Rabies | i did a lot of arenas in tbc before burning out on them then |
| 14:12.22 | Mr_Rabies | then did some more in cata |
| 14:12.28 | VIad | in random battlegrounds horde are probably better at being organized :P |
| 14:12.33 | Mr_Rabies | burned out around when they broke druid shifting out of snares |
| 14:12.38 | Mr_Rabies | haven't run one since |
| 14:12.51 | Mr_Rabies | random battlegrounds are just that |
| 14:13.03 | VIad | if you play resto you are squishy like before |
| 14:13.04 | karl_w_w | one man's broke is another man's fixed |
| 14:13.05 | Mr_Rabies | the overall win ratio is pretty much 1:1 for random bgs |
| 14:13.29 | karl_w_w | my random BG win record is something to boast about |
| 14:13.36 | Mr_Rabies | the only random bg i run anymore is av |
| 14:13.50 | VIad | same :P |
| 14:13.52 | Mr_Rabies | the others are too frustrating |
| 14:13.55 | VIad | AV is the only one where we might win ;P |
| 14:13.58 | karl_w_w | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/frostmourne/Larwood/statistic#21:153 |
| 14:14.06 | karl_w_w | note the totals are incorrect |
| 14:14.12 | karl_w_w | u have to look at specific BGs |
| 14:14.37 | karl_w_w | unless they have fixed it since cata |
| 14:15.22 | Mr_Rabies | lol my stats are so off since i did most of my pvp before achievements were added |
| 14:15.28 | Mr_Rabies | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/llane/Raybeez/statistic#21:153 |
| 14:15.37 | Mr_Rabies | i did enough av to get exalted with it in vanilla |
| 14:15.39 | karl_w_w | gilneas 113 wins out of 128 matches lol |
| 14:15.43 | Mr_Rabies | i was one of the first on my realm with the ram |
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| 14:18.29 | VIad | we had a lot of grand marshals in my vanilla guild |
| 14:18.32 | VIad | they were boosting each other :P |
| 14:18.41 | Mr_Rabies | my MoP reps are miserable :( |
| 14:18.45 | Mr_Rabies | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/llane/Raybeez/reputation/ |
| 14:18.46 | VIad | being on the front of raiding back in those days had it's perks :P gear wise |
| 14:18.53 | nevcairiel | mop reps are also horrible to collect |
| 14:18.58 | Mr_Rabies | i'm just not having any fun with the new rep system |
| 14:19.29 | karl_w_w | cooking is worse than the reps |
| 14:19.31 | Mr_Rabies | i feel like i'm finally done when i get to revered and i hardly ever even do quests in that zone anymore i'm so burned out |
| 14:19.37 | karl_w_w | still havent maxed even my base cooking |
| 14:19.49 | Mr_Rabies | cooking sucks indeed but only if you're working on getting all the ways |
| 14:19.53 | Mr_Rabies | a single way is nothing |
| 14:20.11 | Mr_Rabies | that takes like no time at all |
| 14:20.30 | karl_w_w | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/frostmourne/Larwood/reputation/ :) |
| 14:22.54 | Mr_Rabies | i think even the highly flawed tbc rep system would be an improvement over daily hell |
| 14:23.24 | Mr_Rabies | i think dailies are good for factions without a raiding edge requirement and stuff |
| 14:23.25 | Mr_Rabies | like |
| 14:23.41 | nevcairiel | i didnt mind the tbc one |
| 14:23.43 | Mr_Rabies | cloud serpents, tillers (to an extent) and anglers make sense to have dailies |
| 14:24.00 | Mr_Rabies | but the klaxxi and stuff really should have more going on to get rep |
| 14:24.09 | karl_w_w | lol how do u have 30 normal spine kills and 9 morchok |
| 14:24.11 | Mr_Rabies | more rep from the storyline quests, etc |
| 14:24.23 | Mr_Rabies | who :o |
| 14:24.27 | karl_w_w | you |
| 14:24.46 | nevcairiel | yeah klaxxi is stupid, it basically takes weeks to do the complete storyline of dread waste because you have to collect rep in between |
| 14:25.01 | Mr_Rabies | we went to heroic pretty fast with morchok |
| 14:25.22 | Mr_Rabies | i think we did heroic morchok before we got normal madness down |
| 14:25.37 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, i think that's the big problem nevcairiel |
| 14:25.47 | Mr_Rabies | i think the dailies should be only the storyline quests |
| 14:26.10 | Mr_Rabies | because the reasoning for not having tabards is contibuting to the faction, but the current dailies barely even qualify for that |
| 14:26.15 | VIad | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/auchindoun/Database/reputation |
| 14:26.39 | VIad | ending / matters :P |
| 14:26.40 | nevcairiel | Four, oh: four |
| 14:27.13 | VIad | told you |
| 14:27.15 | VIad | ending / matters |
| 14:27.34 | karl_w_w | L2moltenfront |
| 14:28.05 | Mr_Rabies | i did molten front for the story |
| 14:28.10 | Mr_Rabies | but oh god |
| 14:28.18 | Mr_Rabies | that was the start of daily hell 2.0 |
| 14:28.26 | nevcairiel | molten front was horrible |
| 14:28.31 | nevcairiel | i think i did them one day |
| 14:28.35 | nevcairiel | then quit playing again |
| 14:28.36 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 14:28.40 | karl_w_w | they weren't that bad |
| 14:28.48 | karl_w_w | compared to golden lotus :P |
| 14:29.03 | karl_w_w | at least the molten front dailies had interesting mechanics and stuff going on |
| 14:29.11 | karl_w_w | even if there were much too many dailies |
| 14:29.14 | Mr_Rabies | if there wasn't storyline for the non-dailies that required doing dailies to get to them, i'd have probably never stepped foot in molten front |
| 14:29.38 | Mr_Rabies | i certainly didn't need the gear |
| 14:30.08 | VIad | I got over 800 marks from molten front |
| 14:30.13 | VIad | nothing to spend them on |
| 14:30.19 | Mr_Rabies | i'm out of charms |
| 14:30.40 | Mr_Rabies | i probably won't do any dailies for a few weeks, i think i'm enough ahead of my guild to be lazy for a few weeks |
| 14:31.05 | karl_w_w | they said they might add charms for pvp pet battles |
| 14:31.11 | Mr_Rabies | i really dread having to go back to them |
| 14:31.21 | Mr_Rabies | i'm probably not gonna do the 5.2 dailies regardless |
| 14:31.36 | VIad | why can't I compare two characters on armory? |
| 14:31.45 | VIad | wanna compare myself to Mr_Rabies |
| 14:31.51 | Mr_Rabies | i hate how much of the game i've burned out on so much this expansion :( |
| 14:32.27 | Mr_Rabies | done with lfr, only do 5 mans because i gotta get vp, done with dailies |
| 14:32.43 | Mr_Rabies | i really need to get my guild doing some guild challenges |
| 14:32.58 | Mr_Rabies | these brazilians are gonna give me an aneuryism |
| 14:33.15 | karl_w_w | i dont do heroics at all unless guilies ask me |
| 14:33.20 | Mr_Rabies | i recently started tanking to skip the queue at least |
| 14:33.24 | karl_w_w | get all my vp from scenarios and lfr |
| 14:33.25 | Mr_Rabies | and i almost always do most dps |
| 14:33.34 | Mr_Rabies | i love scenarios...most of the time |
| 14:33.45 | karl_w_w | i just do 1 per day |
| 14:33.50 | Mr_Rabies | when it's one of the weird scenarios that no one ever does right |
| 14:33.53 | Mr_Rabies | those suck |
| 14:34.02 | Mr_Rabies | like, unga ingoo owns with a good group |
| 14:34.04 | karl_w_w | u can solo them all so it's fine :P |
| 14:34.06 | Mr_Rabies | <10 mins, done |
| 14:34.28 | Mr_Rabies | also getting thrown into a scenario with a healer and a tank is pretty frustrating |
| 14:34.34 | karl_w_w | unga ingoo just run off to the north west island before he even starts brewing |
| 14:34.42 | Mr_Rabies | i go to the boat |
| 14:34.50 | Mr_Rabies | take the zipline |
| 14:34.53 | karl_w_w | grab all the booze, run back, take rope to boat |
| 14:34.54 | Mr_Rabies | then go to north island after |
| 14:34.55 | karl_w_w | come back |
| 14:35.04 | Mr_Rabies | then cave |
| 14:35.06 | karl_w_w | then it should be almost done even if the other guys did nothing |
| 14:35.17 | Mr_Rabies | somehow even with 2 people guardian the keg we always lose a ton of brew |
| 14:35.22 | Mr_Rabies | guarding |
| 14:35.27 | karl_w_w | lol i've never had that problem |
| 14:35.37 | Mr_Rabies | my battlegroup is terrible |
| 14:35.49 | Mr_Rabies | literally like 90% of runs have either a huge idiot or a griefer |
| 14:35.54 | karl_w_w | worst scenario is theramore |
| 14:35.58 | karl_w_w | take so damn long |
| 14:36.01 | Mr_Rabies | eh it's fast enough |
| 14:36.06 | Mr_Rabies | you just gotta do it right :p |
| 14:36.14 | Mr_Rabies | most people kill way too much stuff |
| 14:36.26 | karl_w_w | even if u dont it takes ages |
| 14:36.50 | Mr_Rabies | usually about 15 for me |
| 14:36.56 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 14:36.59 | Mr_Rabies | with a good group |
| 14:36.59 | karl_w_w | still the longest |
| 14:37.18 | karl_w_w | maybe that new one is longer |
| 14:37.22 | Mr_Rabies | the longest ones are ones where i have to explain stuff and the other 2 people don't know english :< |
| 14:37.26 | karl_w_w | where u build defenses and shit |
| 14:37.33 | Mr_Rabies | that one also will perma-bug often |
| 14:37.42 | Mr_Rabies | and it's unfixable |
| 14:38.06 | karl_w_w | i've only had it bug once but it came back after a few minutes |
| 14:38.14 | Mr_Rabies | ours had the night elves on permafear |
| 14:38.15 | karl_w_w | the best one is the arena one |
| 14:38.19 | karl_w_w | but ive only got it ywice |
| 14:38.19 | Mr_Rabies | not for me |
| 14:38.24 | Mr_Rabies | i always get tanks and healers for that one |
| 14:38.28 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 14:38.30 | Mr_Rabies | and the healer usually goes afk |
| 14:38.43 | Mr_Rabies | they really should make you queue up for scenarios in a dps spec :| |
| 14:40.59 | VIad | I go as tank because I aoe better |
| 14:41.03 | VIad | and some scenarios got aoe packs :P |
| 14:41.36 | Mr_Rabies | how do warriors aoe better in tank spec when stuff dies before vengeance even has a chance to do anyting |
| 14:41.53 | karl_w_w | he pulls the whole instance at once |
| 14:42.04 | Mr_Rabies | i do that in cat form |
| 14:42.11 | Mr_Rabies | get on my level |
| 14:42.12 | Mr_Rabies | :p |
| 14:42.19 | Mr_Rabies | i do, though |
| 14:42.19 | karl_w_w | i miss late wotlk heroics |
| 14:42.27 | Mr_Rabies | i miss early cata heroics |
| 14:42.38 | Lopeppeppy | I miss Molten Core. |
| 14:42.40 | karl_w_w | one time we did a whole UK with no tank and no healer |
| 14:42.43 | karl_w_w | just 5 dps |
| 14:42.48 | karl_w_w | was insanely fast |
| 14:42.48 | Mr_Rabies | that's what firelands was for Lopeppeppy |
| 14:42.56 | Mr_Rabies | to kill whatever nostalgia you had for that place |
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| 14:43.09 | VIad | I miss blackwing lair and aq40 |
| 14:43.20 | Mr_Rabies | that's what bwd was for (re: bwl) |
| 14:43.41 | Mr_Rabies | aq40 was one of my least favorite raids |
| 14:43.42 | VIad | I miss the old once, was fun to learn with my guild :P |
| 14:43.45 | Mr_Rabies | sidegrades AND bugs?! |
| 14:43.47 | Mr_Rabies | oh boy! |
| 14:43.52 | Mr_Rabies | let me just get in on that! |
| 14:43.59 | nevcairiel | i liked aq |
| 14:44.11 | karl_w_w | i dont see how people could have liked aq |
| 14:44.15 | Humbedooh | AQ was awesome |
| 14:44.20 | nevcairiel | twin emps and cthun are awesome |
| 14:44.22 | karl_w_w | given how long it takes to run through it after a wipe |
| 14:44.25 | Lopeppeppy | Don't stand in poo. |
| 14:44.26 | VIad | no one made an armory to compare profiles lol |
| 14:44.39 | VIad | why not? it's the ultimate epeen measuring tool |
| 14:44.40 | Mr_Rabies | my favorite part of aq was the first boss in aq40 as cat form |
| 14:44.48 | Mr_Rabies | because our strategy was to cc the mc'd people |
| 14:44.57 | Mr_Rabies | but the mages always forgot i was immune to sheep |
| 14:45.03 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:45.04 | karl_w_w | bad mages |
| 14:45.05 | Mr_Rabies | so a huge cat would just murder the healers |
| 14:45.07 | karl_w_w | i never forget |
| 14:45.18 | karl_w_w | and rage at my RL when he forgets eg. on deathwhisper |
| 14:45.22 | Mr_Rabies | well yeah |
| 14:45.24 | Mr_Rabies | it was 40 man classic |
| 14:45.32 | Mr_Rabies | almost all the casters were bad |
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| 14:45.43 | VIad | I remember us having good synergy back then |
| 14:45.45 | Mr_Rabies | they just macroed up like 2 abilities and spammed one button |
| 14:45.46 | nevcairiel | almost everyone* |
| 14:45.58 | VIad | raiding didn't have to be too complex to make it fun, was fun just doing it with the guys |
| 14:46.18 | karl_w_w | back when patchwerk was passable design :P |
| 14:46.19 | Mr_Rabies | the complexity in classic raiding was herding 40 egos and idiots around |
| 14:46.40 | zenzio | I enjoyed encounters like Anub'Rekhan and Faerlina |
| 14:46.51 | Mr_Rabies | our guild exploded because of twin emps |
| 14:47.04 | Mr_Rabies | so i never saw any naxx40 other than stealthing around when it was first added |
| 14:47.10 | Mr_Rabies | until they made the mobs see through stealth |
| 14:47.11 | Mr_Rabies | :X |
| 14:47.38 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 14:47.48 | zenzio | in vanilla I saw spider wing, and first boss on the others |
| 14:47.59 | karl_w_w | i did like 2 runs of icc during bc |
| 14:48.08 | Mr_Rabies | most guilds in vanilla exploded in a few spots if they were raiding regularly |
| 14:48.12 | karl_w_w | and when i say runs, we managed like 4 bosses |
| 14:48.30 | Mr_Rabies | 1) razorgore 2) nefarian 3) twin emps and/or c'thun 4) four horsemen |
| 14:48.55 | zenzio | oh the fun times |
| 14:49.25 | Mr_Rabies | 3 is grouped since stress from twin emps would carry over into c'thun and finish them off if they survived emps |
| 14:49.55 | zenzio | "I see Zenzio forgot his Shadowcloak" (was that the name? can't seem to recall right now and wowhead's on maintenance) |
| 14:50.10 | Mr_Rabies | we did razorgore on opening night |
| 14:50.15 | Mr_Rabies | onyxia scale cloak |
| 14:50.19 | Mr_Rabies | to avoid shadowflame |
| 14:50.25 | zenzio | god, how could I forget the name |
| 14:50.30 | Mr_Rabies | i still have mine |
| 14:50.33 | Mr_Rabies | from back then |
| 14:50.38 | Mr_Rabies | i earned that crap |
| 14:50.38 | zenzio | I still have that in my bank, along with the rest of my (BC) fire resist gear |
| 14:50.43 | Mr_Rabies | all those pointless onyxia kills |
| 14:50.45 | Mr_Rabies | ugh |
| 14:50.47 | Lopeppeppy | Oh yes, the Ony scale cloak! |
| 14:51.20 | VIad | sadly shadowflame got heavily nerfed |
| 14:51.29 | VIad | btw why was raid attunements so taboo? |
| 14:51.32 | Lopeppeppy | I remember when skinning Onyxia was a big deal for the skill up... |
| 14:51.35 | VIad | I liked it :P |
| 14:51.43 | Lopeppeppy | Friggin' attunements. Rawr. |
| 14:51.45 | zenzio | I still have the trinket from the Onyxia (or was it BWL... man I'm confused right now) attunement |
| 14:51.47 | VIad | you did a quest chain, did some group quests, e.g. |
| 14:51.57 | zenzio | and Styleen's Impeding Scarab's going nowhere from my bank |
| 14:52.11 | VIad | "oh no I can't do UBRS to attune myself to BWL too much work Blizz remove the attunements!" |
| 14:52.17 | Lopeppeppy | "group quests" - there you go. |
| 14:52.26 | VIad | like karazhan one was more elaborate attunement :D |
| 14:52.31 | Lopeppeppy | When you were the lagging member and couldn't get a group, it was painful. |
| 14:52.36 | VIad | but I enjoyed it, back then it was new content and it was fun attuning |
| 14:52.50 | zenzio | UBRS in a nutshell, as I remember it: 1) WHO PULLED THAT GROUP!?. 2) who has finkle skinner? 3) hunter kite plz |
| 14:52.51 | Lopeppeppy | And then the attunements became the only reason to go to Blackrock Spire, and NOBODY went. |
| 14:53.09 | VIad | not like you got so much else important to do that you don't got time for a simple attunement chain you do once :P |
| 14:53.11 | Lopeppeppy | Psh. Rogue kite! |
| 14:53.12 | zenzio | that's assuming you found someone with the key |
| 14:53.19 | Lopeppeppy | Ah yes, the key... |
| 14:53.49 | VIad | you know how we attuned the guild? :P |
| 14:53.56 | VIad | I was a newbie back then but now I know what happened |
| 14:54.09 | VIad | first group cleared the dungeon and warlock summon and swapped party members until all guild was attuned :P |
| 14:54.31 | VIad | basically someone outside said "loot this" then got invited to party 2 and summoned, deliver, leave party |
| 14:54.57 | VIad | just saying, wasn't like a guild had issues attuning for bwl back then :P |
| 14:55.12 | VIad | and doing it solo would also be possible, just not many knew about it in those days |
| 14:58.12 | Mr_Rabies | we just 40 manned ubrs and got everyone attuned |
| 14:59.04 | Mr_Rabies | we did it the night bwl launched |
| 14:59.11 | Mr_Rabies | i kind of miss the mess that bwl was |
| 14:59.28 | Mr_Rabies | i wish they'd try that again just for science's sake |
| 14:59.46 | Mr_Rabies | no public testing of the raid, just going in blind |
| 15:02.32 | nevcairiel | they should get some NDA testing going |
| 15:02.42 | nevcairiel | so it is tested, but not spoiled for everyone |
| 15:02.50 | Mr_Rabies | i'm talking |
| 15:02.53 | Mr_Rabies | totally untested |
| 15:02.54 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 15:02.59 | Mr_Rabies | only internally |
| 15:03.05 | nevcairiel | noone likes buggy content |
| 15:03.06 | foxlit | Heh, what's the point? |
| 15:03.11 | Mr_Rabies | chaos! |
| 15:03.14 | foxlit | Abilities will be datamined instantly. |
| 15:03.21 | foxlit | Better guilds than you will publish guides the next day. |
| 15:03.27 | nevcairiel | hm yeah with mining and the EJ, its hardly news |
| 15:03.38 | Mr_Rabies | not if they can't kill it for a month because it's bugged to hell |
| 15:03.39 | Mr_Rabies | :p |
| 15:03.47 | Mr_Rabies | or hilariously overtuned |
| 15:03.49 | Kalroth | obfuscate it - add 2 fake abilities per real abilitie |
| 15:03.51 | nevcairiel | but i agree, going into an encounter not knowing wtf is going to happen was part of the fun |
| 15:03.51 | Kalroth | ability* |
| 15:03.56 | foxlit | I'm not sure why you're advocating broken content. |
| 15:04.02 | Mr_Rabies | chaos! |
| 15:04.16 | Mr_Rabies | a little chaos is a good thing |
| 15:04.29 | Mr_Rabies | sometimes a lot of chaos is a btter thing |
| 15:04.32 | Kalroth | make abilities entirely random, give bosses paladin and death knight abilities |
| 15:04.32 | Mr_Rabies | better* |
| 15:04.50 | foxlit | no, unmitigated chaos caused by lack of testing, manifesting via bugged or overtuned fights, is neither "little" nor "good". |
| 15:05.00 | Mr_Rabies | pfft |
| 15:05.13 | Mr_Rabies | i loved razorgore opening night |
| 15:05.21 | Mr_Rabies | some of the rest of my guild....not so much |
| 15:05.30 | Mr_Rabies | the chaos was awesome though |
| 15:05.38 | Kalroth | I didnt, my server couldn't handle BWL for the first 2-3 months |
| 15:05.47 | Kalroth | 5000ms+ ping times |
| 15:05.51 | foxlit | nevcairiel: I imagine you could achieve that by simply ignoring external indications of what to do during a fight. I suppose finding 9 other people who would agree to that is difficult, but hey :) |
| 15:05.56 | Mr_Rabies | this isn't like mc, we can't just stand around and collect purples, plus it's bugged |
| 15:06.08 | nevcairiel | foxlit: exactly, there is always at least one person that spoils the fun |
| 15:06.17 | foxlit | Try LFR. |
| 15:06.28 | foxlit | People avoid explaining strategy as if it was the plague :P |
| 15:06.33 | Mr_Rabies | i haven't looked at a strategy video since they added the dungeon journal |
| 15:06.43 | nevcairiel | razorgore was nothing, vael was the fun, what was it at first, 1 hour a week or something like that? .p |
| 15:06.52 | nevcairiel | or 15 minutes every few hours? |
| 15:06.54 | nevcairiel | i forget |
| 15:07.03 | Mr_Rabies | razorgore was so bugged launch week though |
| 15:07.09 | Mr_Rabies | the door past him wouldn't open for most guilds |
| 15:07.19 | Mr_Rabies | and he'd constantly despawn and wipe the raid for no reason |
| 15:07.27 | Mr_Rabies | it was frankly hilarious |
| 15:07.43 | Mr_Rabies | some of those bugs still persist today in bwl |
| 15:08.05 | nevcairiel | foxlit: but then LFR hardly requires strategy |
| 15:08.50 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 15:08.52 | Mr_Rabies | on the other hand |
| 15:09.05 | Mr_Rabies | 8 wipes on lfr garalon in a row several weeks after the nerf |
| 15:09.09 | Mr_Rabies | would say otherwise |
| 15:09.39 | Mr_Rabies | not so coincidentally i gave up on lfr after that |
| 15:09.57 | nevcairiel | you are just playing on a broken battlegroup |
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| 15:10.08 | foxlit | nevcairiel: not requires in the sense that you'll be wiped for not immediately doing the right thing, but there are plenty of mechanics with various degrees of uniqueness that you might get that same feeling of not knowing what to do with the first few times around. |
| 15:10.09 | Mr_Rabies | i wish i could afford to move my characters |
| 15:10.22 | foxlit | Amber-shaper's transformations seem particularly painful for people. |
| 15:10.35 | Kaylin | http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/security/alert-cve-2013-0422-1896849.html so this. |
| 15:10.39 | nevcairiel | foxlit: doesnt it mostly just re-use things the trash already did or 5mans showed you? :p |
| 15:10.40 | Mr_Rabies | i really hope they cut the character services' pricing soon |
| 15:10.46 | Mr_Rabies | it's kind of ridiculous |
| 15:10.48 | Kaylin | Java 7u11 released. |
| 15:10.56 | foxlit | nevcairiel: no. It's unique. |
| 15:11.14 | foxlit | (and whoever snuck in that frontal-cone, shared-damage scorpion deserves a slap) |
| 15:12.43 | Mr_Rabies | you mean staghelm in Firelands? |
| 15:12.52 | Mr_Rabies | or is there another frontal cone, shared damage scorpion? |
| 15:13.12 | foxlit | no, I mean the single scorpion trash mob before the Amber-Shaper. |
| 15:13.32 | nevcairiel | i have never been in firelands |
| 15:13.35 | nevcairiel | i should go some day |
| 15:13.46 | Mr_Rabies | it owns, but it wore out its welcome |
| 15:13.49 | foxlit | trash still hits like a truck; bring friends. |
| 15:14.03 | Mr_Rabies | it had quite a few buggy fights, too |
| 15:14.48 | Mr_Rabies | i can't tell you how many nights we'd be wailing on rhyolith with the meter all the way up on a leg and he'd just keep walking straight into lava like it's made of cupcakes |
| 15:16.48 | Lopeppeppy | It's not? *sniff sniff* |
| 15:16.54 | Mr_Rabies | then there was that time we spent like, weeks on alysrazor or rhyolith or something |
| 15:17.12 | Mr_Rabies | and we decided to go on to uh...gatekeeper guy |
| 15:17.19 | Mr_Rabies | baleroc or something? |
| 15:17.40 | Mr_Rabies | killed him first attempt with a bad pull and not explaining anything |
| 15:17.54 | Mr_Rabies | we were like "welp, should have probably done this first" |
| 15:21.21 | Mr_Rabies | i've decided i'm gonna try staying awake |
| 15:21.25 | Mr_Rabies | this isn't going so well |
| 15:22.22 | bluworkcow | I love when clueless americans quote the first amendment as a right to troll forums |
| 15:22.58 | Mr_Rabies | i didn't fight in the doughnut wars for you to question my freedom, pinko |
| 15:23.03 | Dagmar | That has nothing to do with them being Americans. |
| 15:23.34 | Mr_Rabies | well, if they're citing the "first amendment" as a freedom of speech thing they're most likely americans |
| 15:23.55 | Dagmar | Not necessarily. |
| 15:24.07 | Mr_Rabies | operator being "most likely" |
| 15:24.10 | Dagmar | Never assume that just because part of their argument is stupid that the rest isn't completely fabricated. |
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| 15:25.15 | Mr_Rabies | you're fabricated |
| 15:25.18 | Mr_Rabies | jerk >:O |
| 15:25.31 | bluworkcow | nope |
| 15:25.33 | bluworkcow | you are |
| 15:25.36 | bluworkcow | *eats Mr_Rabies* |
| 15:25.46 | Mr_Rabies | i'm a self hatin' construct |
| 15:26.09 | bluworkcow | y u haet |
| 15:26.14 | Mr_Rabies | i'm also really tired oh god i can't do this anymore |
| 15:26.29 | Mr_Rabies | i'm getting too old to attempt to fix my sleep schedule by staying up all night and day |
| 15:27.21 | Mr_Rabies | stayed up most of the night a month and some odd weeks ago because of a stomach ache and it's been messed up since |
| 15:27.36 | Mr_Rabies | so easy to break my schedule, way too hard to fix it |
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| 15:27.57 | Mr_Rabies | now it's 10:30 AM and my bed's lookin' mighty comfy |
| 15:28.14 | bluworkcow | *sleeps on Mr_Rabies* |
| 15:28.21 | Mr_Rabies | wouldn't recommend it |
| 15:28.56 | Mr_Rabies | i knew a guy that accidentally crushed his pet bird in his sleep |
| 15:29.02 | Mr_Rabies | i imagine the same might happen |
| 15:29.23 | Mr_Rabies | that was a bad day :( |
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| 15:33.25 | Mr_Rabies | okay my brain is operating in a weirder-than-usual mode now, gonna crash for 4.5 hours and hope that does it |
| 15:33.46 | bluworkcow | kk |
| 15:33.52 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:34.02 | Mr_Rabies | Time: 10:33:41 AM EST on Monday, January 14, 2013 |
| 15:34.05 | Mr_Rabies | whyyyy |
| 15:36.10 | Lopeppeppy | Night night. |
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| 16:01.12 | Arrowmaster | i really should get up earlier |
| 16:01.42 | Arrowmaster | i was looking for breakfast and missed the phone call from the recruiter of the company im trying to get a job at so i had to call him back |
| 16:01.50 | TC-work | I get up too early....but than that's because i am slothlike in the morning. |
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| 16:20.45 | Dagmar | Wow. BioWare fucked up good and proper |
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| 16:21.00 | Arrowmaster | what did i miss? |
| 16:21.12 | Dagmar | http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/423849/20130114/star-wars-old-republic-sgr-gay-planet.htm |
| 16:21.48 | Dagmar | ...which is rather predictably up on Slashdot under the headline: "BioWare Launches 'Gay Planet' For the Old Republic" |
| 16:22.40 | Dagmar | ...but between it being only in the Pay-2-Play area, and the ghettoization of that, and that realistically it just involves removing some simple gender checks? wow |
| 16:22.49 | Semlar | jesus christ that website autoplays not one but two videos of the same thing |
| 16:23.00 | Kaylin | loves noscript. |
| 16:23.07 | Semlar | neither of which are related to the article |
| 16:24.41 | Dagmar | It beats ads about Dean Kamen's new First World Problem |
| 16:25.21 | Semlar | no because if it were an ad it would have been blocked |
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| 16:27.30 | bluworkcow | dean who ? |
| 16:27.49 | bluworkcow | @Kaylin drood is 86 |
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| 16:40.38 | karl_w_w | Dagmar you directed me to a website with autoplay video, I will never forgive you. |
| 16:40.53 | Fisker | was it a porn site? |
| 16:40.55 | Dagmar | Tell it to the site editor |
| 16:41.02 | Arrowmaster | use adblock |
| 16:41.07 | Dagmar | I already did, and I didn't use "nice language" |
| 16:41.49 | Dagmar | "Fuck you and your auto-play media spam" |
| 16:42.43 | Dagmar | I figure if they didn't already understand why it's bad to do that, me explaining it isn't going to work either. Might as well skip straight to giving them reasons to avoid gratuitous abuse in the future. |
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| 16:44.56 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:44.59 | bluworkcow | hi! |
| 16:45.02 | karl_w_w | umad Dagmar |
| 16:45.04 | karl_w_w | I like it |
| 16:45.06 | g0urra | hey bluworkcow |
| 16:45.27 | Dagmar | karl_w_w: Nope. Just tired of having to worry about other people's "feelings" |
| 16:45.40 | Dagmar | If they didn't suck festering donkey cock at web design, it wouldn't be a problem |
| 16:46.05 | Semlar | it's not an ad arrowmaster |
| 16:46.12 | Dagmar | it's time to drive the lamers out of Ireland-nets for all I care |
| 16:46.17 | Semlar | the site just autoplays news videos for other sections of the site |
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| 16:50.35 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:50.56 | iShirik | I have determined that Obama is the ultimate troll |
| 16:51.16 | karl_w_w | how's that? |
| 16:52.14 | iShirik | "Republicans aren't allowed to crash the economy while I'm crashing the economy" |
| 16:53.41 | Dagmar | Perhaps you should consider that your view of events is somewhat flawed |
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| 16:54.32 | karl_w_w | are you a rightie iShirik? |
| 16:55.11 | Fisker | my head is hurt iShirik |
| 16:55.24 | iShirik | When my credit card is maxed out and the company won't raise my limit, I start buying fancy cars and diamond rings |
| 16:55.40 | karl_w_w | :P |
| 16:55.56 | karl_w_w | that boosts the economy |
| 16:56.09 | iShirik | And then blame the credit card company for not letting me spend more |
| 16:56.19 | iShirik | This makes sense |
| 16:56.33 | Dagmar | jesus |
| 16:56.43 | karl_w_w | credit card companies are to blame for everything ever |
| 16:57.05 | karl_w_w | on the plus side, I am chain-nomming ritz crackers |
| 16:57.20 | iShirik | Those things are dangerous |
| 16:57.35 | iShirik | You eat one and instantly an entire pack is gone |
| 16:57.57 | karl_w_w | i reckon, they're like cashews without the laxative effect |
| 17:05.42 | bluworkcow | lol |
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| 17:12.37 | Unkle | station or some other happy horseshit |
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| 17:16.06 | iShirik | :( |
| 17:16.37 | VIad | how did I add a new irc channel on pidgin? lol |
| 17:16.45 | VIad | joined one but can't figure out how to show it on the list :P |
| 17:17.17 | VIad | nvm found it :P |
| 17:18.30 | VIad | *goes to work* |
| 17:24.10 | Unkle | http://i.imgur.com/nmGly.jpg |
| 17:27.06 | iShirik | http://twitpic.com/bv8od7 |
| 17:27.19 | iShirik | Now that's how you get people to buy your product |
| 17:27.38 | Unkle | Arrowmaster: I blame you for this link I found in my bookmarks. Apparently, I have a horse outside. |
| 17:27.43 | iShirik | Wtf |
| 17:27.58 | iShirik | Unkle how you did that |
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| 17:28.04 | iShirik | Get out of my head |
| 17:28.15 | Unkle | iShirik: I was faster on the draw. |
| 17:28.20 | iShirik | :( |
| 17:28.49 | Unkle | Old age and craftiness beats out youth and exuberance every time. |
| 17:29.30 | Arrowmaster | Unkle: yes! |
| 17:31.32 | TC-work | Unkle: yes, usually with a stick. |
| 17:34.25 | Lopeppeppy | beats Unkle with a stick. |
| 17:35.01 | Unkle | Now we see the violence inherent in the system. |
| 17:35.13 | Lopeppeppy | Help, he's being oppressed. |
| 17:35.18 | Lopeppeppy | A lot. With prejudice. :) |
| 17:35.36 | Unkle | As long as you don't lob a scimitar at me. |
| 17:36.02 | Lopeppeppy | Never throw your best knife at the enemy. |
| 17:36.41 | Unkle | Save it for plunging into their back or vitals? |
| 17:37.38 | Lopeppeppy | Or chopping carrots for the stew. |
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| 18:15.42 | Adys | is there a chrome extension that lets me easily kill tabs? so that they dont take up any memory/cpu anymore but so that i still have access to them |
| 18:15.59 | Dagmar | You mean like... Bookmark All Tabs? |
| 18:16.22 | Dagmar | I honestly have no idea how you expect to close a tab and still have "access" to it. |
| 18:17.45 | pompy1 | http://blog.malwarebytes.org/intelligence/2013/01/zero-day-java-vulnerability-wreaks-havoc-on-computers-worldwide/ |
| 18:18.09 | foxlit | Did the random battleground queue go away somewhere? |
| 18:18.35 | foxlit | Can't seem to find the relevant button/UI in 5.2 |
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| 18:34.37 | Adys | Dagmar: if you kill a tab's process its still there |
| 18:34.42 | Adys | just marked as crashed |
| 18:36.27 | Fisker | so |
| 18:36.30 | Fisker | no new raid tier in 5.3 |
| 18:36.34 | Fisker | why are you doing this? |
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| 18:41.02 | Jammer | Fisker: to get the patches out quicker :p |
| 18:41.28 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 18:41.50 | karl_w_w | Adys: close the tab and if that doesn't work get a good browser? :P |
| 18:41.58 | Adys | ... |
| 18:42.06 | Adys | my point is i want to kill it without closing it |
| 18:42.19 | Adys | which is possible using the chrome process manager |
| 18:42.42 | Adys | but not easy |
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| 18:47.26 | Fisker | you should use your memory |
| 18:47.29 | Fisker | it's why i got 32GB |
| 18:48.19 | Unkle | Didn't take you long to whip out the ruler... |
| 18:48.54 | Fisker | you don't measure bits in physical length |
| 18:49.30 | Unkle | I was speaking metaphorically (RAM = Penis size) |
| 18:49.40 | Fisker | i got one huge penis then |
| 18:49.52 | cogwheel | doesn't take much to get Unkle thinking about penises |
| 18:49.56 | cogwheel | ducks |
| 18:50.52 | Fisker | gonna get 64GB when haswell comes out |
| 18:50.56 | Unkle | *strangles cogwheel with a rope of foreskins* |
| 18:51.06 | Lopeppeppy | Unkle? Sure you don't... |
| 18:51.16 | Lopeppeppy | thinks better of getting involved in that conversation. |
| 18:51.30 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
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| 18:51.59 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, lunch. |
| 18:52.03 | Lopeppeppy | Like I get time to eat these days. |
| 18:52.14 | Unkle | Osmosis. Wonderful thing. |
| 18:52.24 | Fisker | i get to argue with people over whether or not their printer is black and white |
| 18:52.26 | Fisker | which is nice |
| 18:52.30 | Lopeppeppy | Stick it on my head and I'll be a fish. |
| 18:52.33 | Fisker | keeps me occupied so i don't have to talk to some other idiot |
| 18:52.46 | Fisker | well their printer is not black and white but prints in black and white |
| 18:52.47 | Fisker | lolo |
| 18:53.21 | cogwheel | rubs the noose a bit and is able to escape |
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| 18:53.42 | Lopeppeppy | All y'all are just icky. |
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| 18:54.48 | karl_w_w | 32 mm is a huge penis to you, Fisker? |
| 18:56.17 | Unkle | lays the golden fiddle on the ground at cogwheel's feet. |
| 18:56.41 | Lopeppeppy | I done told you once, you son of a bitch. |
| 18:56.52 | TC-work | I'm the best that's ever been |
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| 19:17.14 | smcn | glorious! complete, still haven't finished frostbitten |
| 19:17.31 | Fisker | you mean 32GM karl_w_w |
| 19:27.01 | karl_w_w | gigglemetres? |
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| 19:30.37 | Lopeppeppy | I do giggle a lot... |
| 19:39.57 | Krapsy | ipod battery died :( |
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| 19:46.45 | TC-work | Bad peppy, Bad. |
| 19:50.38 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://www.geekologie.com/2013/01/theyre-just-so-kissable-looking-hookers.php |
| 19:51.18 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 19:51.22 | TC-work | that's kinda creepy |
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| 19:54.25 | zenzelezz | love these new SC2 unit dances: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_34Z0j4K_Q |
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| 19:59.26 | Mike-N-Go | Happy birthday, Cairenn! |
| 19:59.35 | Cairenn | Heh, thanks Mike |
| 19:59.48 | Cairenn | It was actually last Friday, just the topic hasn't been updated. |
| 20:00.27 | Humbedooh | too late, Cairenn, you just got a year older! |
| 20:01.03 | Mike-N-Go | lol |
| 20:01.14 | Cairenn | NOOOOOooooooooo |
| 20:03.07 | karl_w_w | it will be this birthday for Cairenn forever from now on |
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| 20:03.40 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://pastebin.com || 5.1.x ToC: 50100 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || This channel is logged, via purl || 'spreading the magic of Lua!' - Humbedooh |
| 20:04.03 | karl_w_w | you can try to cover it up but we know |
| 20:04.09 | Cairenn | heheh |
| 20:05.13 | Fisker | Cairenn got a year older every day the last few days |
| 20:05.15 | Fisker | sry |
| 20:05.22 | Cairenn | NOOOOOoooooo |
| 20:08.26 | bleeter | Happy 23rd, Cairenn! |
| 20:08.32 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 20:08.37 | Cairenn | smoogles bleeter |
| 20:08.46 | Cairenn | Sorry to hear about the fire fighter :( |
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| 20:10.30 | bleeter | does this sound like a bug to anyone else? two toons, same battle.net account (diff WoW acct, multibox), same realm, same guild. summon guild herald, 'vendor' options only available to the toon that summoned the herald? |
| 20:10.53 | bleeter | ie, both toons have to summon the herald to be able to sell their junk |
| 20:11.27 | kd3 | I think that's by design - the herald is supposed to be character-only |
| 20:11.32 | bleeter | Cairenn: my understanding is that his passing was not a direct result of the fire, so that's a small blessing to his family I hope |
| 20:11.45 | Cairenn | Yeah =/ |
| 20:12.18 | bleeter | kd3: hmm, I would've thought it'd be for Guild members. hmmm... |
| 20:12.36 | kd3 | oh, guild herald |
| 20:12.42 | kd3 | was thinking argent tournament herald |
| 20:13.40 | bleeter | i'm doing some multiboxing and needed to vendor a bucketload of greys, mechanic struck me as a little odd |
| 20:14.11 | bleeter | maybe designed off argent herald, so maybe NOTABUG but still an RFE |
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| 20:23.54 | bleeter | misses tekkub |
| 20:24.18 | bleeter | giving him crap via twitter just isn't quite the same :( |
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| 20:27.50 | TC-work | Yea bleeter, not having him around does really cut down on our conversations about various butt plugs. |
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| 20:35.36 | mikma | http://youtu.be/xh3Wveg4DMk |
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| 20:42.42 | Mr_Rabies | wow there are still tons of bots outside halls of lightning |
| 20:44.09 | Mr_Rabies | every 2-3 seconds another player with a name like gffdfdgdgh zones in |
| 20:47.08 | foxlit | why HoL, of all places? |
| 20:49.11 | Dagmar | Probably because no one goes out there under normal circumstances. |
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| 20:53.53 | Krapsy | whats there |
| 20:54.00 | Krapsy | that a botter would want |
| 20:54.24 | mikma | old world materials |
| 20:54.28 | mikma | cloth and dust and ... |
| 20:54.49 | mikma | try raising enchanting now from 0 to 600 |
| 20:54.53 | Dagmar | THe occasional drake mount |
| 20:55.31 | bleeter | this is a pretty good burn http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/cycling/9800888/Nicole-Cooke-retires-from-cycling-and-takes-aim-at-Tyler-Hamilton-and-Lance-Armstrong.html |
| 20:56.11 | bleeter | 'When Lance (Armstrong) "cries" on Oprah later this week and she passes him the tissue...' |
| 20:56.41 | Semlar | they're farming it for northrend rep |
| 20:58.22 | Semlar | not just for gold |
| 20:58.27 | mikma | so... marvel online and their promotions about pre-sales |
| 20:58.33 | mikma | "get the ultimate pack!" |
| 20:58.55 | mikma | i thought "oh, that's cool, imma gonna buy that" |
| 20:59.09 | mikma | https://presale.marvelheroes.com/presale_en_us/the-ultimate-pack.html |
| 21:00.54 | Mr_Rabies | oh, there's a marvel mmo |
| 21:00.56 | Mr_Rabies | didn't know that |
| 21:01.13 | Mr_Rabies | or wait |
| 21:01.16 | mikma | free to play or something when it's launched |
| 21:01.42 | Mr_Rabies | it's like...diablo with marvel characters |
| 21:01.47 | mikma | aye |
| 21:01.50 | Mr_Rabies | okay |
| 21:02.09 | mikma | i think it has the people behind d3 making it or something |
| 21:02.32 | mikma | there was a hustle about some people that were creating either d2 or d3 and they quit and started to make marvel online |
| 21:02.59 | smcn | runic games is former diablo people isn't it |
| 21:03.18 | mikma | i can't remember |
| 21:03.28 | mikma | let's googlefu |
| 21:03.35 | Kalroth | yes |
| 21:03.41 | Kalroth | blizzard north |
| 21:03.44 | smcn | Runic Games is a Seattle-based American computer game company formed by Travis Baldree (creator of Fate), Max Schaefer and Erich Schaefer (co-founders of Blizzard North, of Diablo fame), |
| 21:04.25 | smcn | wasn't marvel ultimate alliance diablo-esque |
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| 21:05.13 | mikma | http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/724036/marvel-heroes-mmo-from-diablos-creator-shows-off-some-gameplay/ |
| 21:07.56 | bleeter | but will I be able to play it on my iPhone? |
| 21:08.12 | bleeter | hmmm lemme rephrase |
| 21:08.22 | bleeter | "if it don't work on iOS, it must be crap!" |
| 21:08.39 | Unkle | do you need more coffee? |
| 21:08.52 | bleeter | ('mobile gaming is the future' people give me the shits, if you didn't notice) |
| 21:08.56 | bleeter | Unkle: always |
| 21:09.20 | mikma | http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-08-21-diablo-1-and-2-co-creator-breviks-diablo-3-was-very-different |
| 21:10.13 | kd3 | haha; http://i.imgur.com/wU6Br.jpg |
| 21:11.59 | bleeter | mikma: interesting the lack of distinction between battle.net and battle.net |
| 21:12.13 | bleeter | almost as if, to some degree, someone's still trying to trade off the name |
| 21:12.20 | bleeter | shrugs |
| 21:13.45 | mikma | there was some interesting wordfight also some time ago |
| 21:13.56 | mikma | someone badmouthed someone xD |
| 21:14.13 | bleeter | in... the gaming biz? |
| 21:14.21 | bleeter | NOWAIT! SAY IT ISN'T SO, MIKMA!!11!! |
| 21:14.32 | bleeter | bah |
| 21:14.39 | bleeter | s/NOWAIT/NOWAI/ |
| 21:14.43 | bleeter | curses autocorrect |
| 21:14.44 | mikma | bleeter: it was like "fuck them, they are idiots" |
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| 21:15.35 | bleeter | idiots... in... the gaming biz? |
| 21:15.43 | bleeter | NOWAI! SAY IT ISN'T SO, MIKMA!!11!! |
| 21:15.55 | bleeter | wow, I got it right that time. except for the double space... |
| 21:15.57 | bleeter | ~fail bleeter |
| 21:15.58 | purl | bleeter: FAIL! |
| 21:16.29 | mikma | Brevik hit the headlines overnight after former and current Blizzard employees took to Facebook to take issue with an interview he gave to IncGamers in which he offered his take on the controversial Diablo 3. |
| 21:16.41 | mikma | In a Facebook post that was later deleted, Diablo 3 game director Jay Wilson said: "F*** that loser." |
| 21:17.06 | bleeter | kd3: HAH |
| 21:17.17 | Kaylin | Heh he'll never live that down. |
| 21:19.20 | Mr_Rabies | i can't believe there was so much drama over that |
| 21:19.20 | Mr_Rabies | oh wait |
| 21:19.22 | Mr_Rabies | i can |
| 21:19.25 | Mr_Rabies | gaming journalism |
| 21:19.31 | bleeter | ^^ |
| 21:19.31 | Kaylin | :P |
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| 21:20.48 | bleeter | srsly, what would jernalists do these days if it were for deleted FB posts/Tweets |
| 21:20.58 | bleeter | there'd be nothing to report. nothing. at. all. |
| 21:21.07 | bleeter | is mostly serious |
| 21:25.05 | smcn | considering the state of other entertainment industry rags the enthusiast press could be doing a lot worse |
| 21:25.17 | cbreak | bleeter: http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/01/red-october-computer-espionage-network-may-have-stolen-terabytes-of-data/ |
| 21:25.38 | cbreak | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/01/us-denies-megaupload-claim-that-it-planted-evidence/ |
| 21:25.46 | smcn | i have to close my eyes waiting in line to check out at the grocery store lest i vomit all over the magazine racks |
| 21:26.11 | cbreak | smcn: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/01/have-your-cake-and-then-squirt-it-out-of-your-body-with-new-stomach-pump/ |
| 21:26.17 | cbreak | there's something for everyone! |
| 21:26.20 | smcn | lol |
| 21:27.28 | bleeter | cbreak: I'm still trying to work out how Megaupload got taken down but dropbox didn't |
| 21:27.32 | bleeter | ohwait |
| 21:27.36 | bleeter | Bono invested in Dropbox didn't he |
| 21:28.05 | smcn | do people use dropbox for piracy? |
| 21:28.13 | cbreak | megaupload had user privacy and dropbox doesn't? |
| 21:28.23 | cbreak | smcn: what do users not use for piracy? |
| 21:28.45 | smcn | fair enough |
| 21:29.30 | smcn | is there a file-sharing mod using addon channel? |
| 21:30.13 | smcn | of course you'd need an external program to translate the savedvariables |
| 21:30.39 | bleeter | dear blizz, if the on-use gear icon turns from grey to gold, why the fuck am I still out of range? yours, etc. |
| 21:30.52 | bleeter | ~emulate bleeter |
| 21:30.53 | purl | ACTION rant RANT rant waaa MOAR COFFEE <sub>GOOD IDEA</sub>rant waa MOAR COFFEE rant rant MOAR MOAR <blink><h1>terribad idea</h1></blink> rant |
| 21:30.56 | nevcairiel | client vs server? |
| 21:30.56 | nevcairiel | :d |
| 21:31.18 | foxlit | <OnUpdate function="RequestBattlefieldScoreData"/> heh |
| 21:31.39 | bleeter | nevcairiel: meh, it's just a door. not as if it's a loot box or anythying |
| 21:31.58 | iShirik | Foxlit wtf |
| 21:33.29 | cbreak | that sounds efficient. |
| 21:33.40 | foxlit | only the freshest data will do, clearly. |
| 21:34.17 | foxlit | (WorldStateScoreFrame) |
| 21:35.19 | mikma | roo bad zoot isn't around to tell you how he feels about that |
| 21:36.26 | iShirik | Dude |
| 21:36.45 | iShirik | The score could be out of date by like 2 seconds |
| 21:36.52 | iShirik | Totally ruin my strategy |
| 21:37.37 | foxlit | Zaphod is just this C call, you know? |
| 21:39.55 | foxlit | (it may well still be managed by the server, rather than being an actual request) |
| 21:43.01 | iShirik | I would imagine its implementation forcibly throttles it anyway if it is a server request |
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| 22:11.29 | smcn | 220 spinefish and no alpha, rip sheimak he drowned himself in the pools of the niuzao catacombs |
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| 22:35.00 | kd3 | oh, heh. they're reupping before the certs expire this year |
| 22:35.03 | kd3 | that's an improvement |
| 22:35.41 | kd3 | though they're down to the wire... considering it expires at 23:59 gmt |
| 22:41.00 | Arrowmaster | who? |
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| 22:59.35 | Mike-N-Go | You guys are wired/weird. |
| 23:09.16 | TC-work | Normally weird, we only becomes wired with coffee or other stimulus. |
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| 23:47.27 | TC-work | ~cackle |
| 23:47.28 | purl | ACTION cackles |
| 23:47.34 | TC-work | ~botsnack |
| 23:47.34 | purl | aw, gee, TC-work |
| 23:50.13 | Xzempt | whats the best way to determine when you join a party |
| 23:51.59 | TC-work | When you press accept. |
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