| 00:02.05 | zenzelezz | can't hey this |
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| 00:04.59 | TC-work | hey's zenzelezz |
| 00:05.06 | TC-work | twice |
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| 00:09.51 | zenzelezz | :( |
| 00:12.52 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://imgur.com/gallery/klgAq |
| 00:13.24 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if ordering online from pizzahut.com always give at least a 30minute estimate before you can pickup your order, its been exactly 30 minutes the times ive ordered online |
| 00:16.50 | TC-work | *shrug* i always have it delivered |
| 00:19.51 | Arrowmaster | they charge more for delivery and its not far to pickup from |
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| 00:23.54 | Adys | http://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/15kv8k/my_soup_bowl_broke_perfectly_where_the_soup_was/ |
| 00:23.59 | Adys | someone doesnt know how gravity works |
| 00:25.17 | Corrodias | gravity? |
| 00:25.36 | Adys | do you see how much soup there is all over that microwave? |
| 00:25.57 | Corrodias | a little, on the bottom, yeah |
| 00:26.11 | Corrodias | probably picked up the top and the rest detached |
| 00:27.19 | Corrodias | what's wrong with gravity? |
| 00:28.56 | Amarande | I still remember the time I was trying to prepare Pasta Roni and next thing the bottom cladding popped off the saucepan due to bimetallic bond fatigue :| |
| 00:34.43 | Amarande | At first I thought it would actually be a big mess like that reddit, thankfully it's just cladding and not the actual pan bottom |
| 00:36.47 | Corrodias | cool |
| 00:53.09 | zenzelezz | I don't think you're actually bashing reddit here, but I've never found reddit particularly... readable |
| 00:55.37 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 00:57.33 | Kalroth | i agree, zenzelezz, the reddit fonts are too tiny |
| 01:00.21 | Amarande | Ctrl-mousewheel, Kalroth :P |
| 01:00.44 | g0urra | wow what happened |
| 01:00.56 | Kalroth | Amarande: I was being sarcastic@#%! |
| 01:04.12 | g0urra | is WoW acting up for anyone else? |
| 01:07.38 | zenzelezz | also, Amarande; everyone knows that's just for when you read porn on your TV |
| 01:08.06 | Fisker | hey g0urra thanks |
| 01:08.48 | Amarande | g0urra, working fine here |
| 01:09.17 | Amarande | what server do you usually play on? |
| 01:13.37 | g0urra | moonglade |
| 01:13.43 | g0urra | seems like it was only that server |
| 01:23.08 | Sintacks | typed the wrong password into WoW 5 times |
| 01:23.10 | Sintacks | cuz i'm an idiot |
| 01:25.14 | zenzelezz | is that significant somehow, or are you just telling us? |
| 01:25.37 | zenzelezz | I know my bank card has three times and you're out stuff, never knew if WoW does |
| 01:28.22 | Sintacks | just telling you |
| 01:28.30 | Sintacks | and as far as i know, blizzard doesn't lock you out |
| 01:28.31 | Sintacks | but idk |
| 01:28.35 | foxlit | typo your password 25 more times |
| 01:28.37 | foxlit | for science! |
| 01:28.38 | Sintacks | the most i've failed, is 7 |
| 01:28.46 | Sintacks | cuz i had shift lock on and didn't notice |
| 01:29.12 | Sintacks | i know that if you fail it 3+ times on xx.battle.net, it gives you a capt..whatever thingy |
| 01:32.40 | TC-work | i hate captcha's |
| 01:32.57 | TC-work | Google seems to be the worse in my experience. |
| 01:33.05 | Sintacks | omg these burgers i made are good |
| 01:33.20 | TC-work | Now they started adding pictures of house addresses....really creepy |
| 01:33.27 | Sintacks | burger, cheese, a hashbrown, bacon, pickles... omnomnom |
| 01:33.32 | TC-work | Glad to see you using street view properly google. |
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| 01:37.58 | VIad | TC-work: |
| 01:38.18 | VIad | I got 3 tables, 2 of them can get empty so that one of them contains data that is obscolete |
| 01:38.30 | VIad | got any ideas how the query to clean up such useless entries can be done? :P |
| 01:39.01 | VIad | an event contains punchcards, but if you end up removing punchcards so that the event no longer has any left in the other table, I'd like to clean those events by deleting them ;) |
| 01:39.04 | TC-work | you can do if then's in sql |
| 01:39.09 | VIad | jupp |
| 01:39.34 | VIad | I got the dependency the other way around, it cleans automatically if I delete a event entry |
| 01:39.49 | VIad | but not if I delete the stuff that makes up an event ;p if you know what I mea |
| 01:41.25 | TC-work | I would need a sample to really understand what you are referring to, however if this is going to be constant and not just periodic pruning i would make a field in the other two tables that point back to the event |
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| 01:42.37 | kd3|netbook | brr |
| 01:43.14 | VIad | "event" "cards" "people" -> when I import data I populate event with 1 entry, cards and people contain different amount of entries, all refering back to event.id |
| 01:43.43 | kd3|netbook | I guess this is the new "closing a door" method of pulling teeth? http://i.imgur.com/aLSVa.gif |
| 01:43.47 | VIad | if I delete the event, sql automatically cleans cards and people; but if I remove for instance all people related to a specific event, then the event entry is still in the database, but has no data :P |
| 01:45.17 | TC-work | I would make a check to see if the event entry has a corresponding event.id, if not, poof |
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| 01:45.41 | TC-work | granted i do a lot of my comparisons in python because i find the manipulation to be more flexable |
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| 02:00.22 | Amarande | Wow, that's no less than three characters I'm glad I'm not planning to raid with much. :| |
| 02:00.35 | zenzelezz | all right, so I'm having a tipsy evening thanks to my friend Captain Morgan, and the biggest mystery of my evening seems to be... "where the hell did I put that toothpick?" |
| 02:00.41 | Amarande | Apparently, shadow priests, ellie shamans, and boomkin are all very firmly in the "I suck" tier of DPS atm :( |
| 02:02.15 | Amarande | heh, and diehard frost mages are very happy campers right now, they're #2 on the chart with only Arcane being higher |
| 02:05.38 | kd3|netbook | mm. some captain would be good... too bad I've got a ~4hr drive tomorrow |
| 02:11.20 | Xandr | If a mob is tapped, the player who tapped it died, and I attack it after that - shouldn't I get the tap? |
| 02:12.03 | kd3|netbook | you need to be next on the threat list before the mob dies |
| 02:12.16 | kd3|netbook | but yes, generally. that's how I got some rare tags |
| 02:13.04 | Mr_Rabies | i usually let the mob reset at least before i tag it if it's a rare |
| 02:13.12 | kd3|netbook | ick |
| 02:13.13 | Xandr | I should have been. I did put a dot on the rare while the warrior attacking him was still alive. Warrior died, rare came running to me, but stayed grey for me. |
| 02:13.41 | Mr_Rabies | if he does over a certain percentage damage to it, i don't think the tap will change hands |
| 02:14.00 | Amarande | I think you're supposed to let it reset |
| 02:14.02 | Mr_Rabies | i believe it's near 50% or something, though |
| 02:14.06 | Xandr | Meh, guess I'll let it reset next time. |
| 02:14.17 | Amarande | although sometimes I've seen mobs not reset properly *sigh* |
| 02:14.18 | Xandr | Not too bothered because it didn't drop what I wanted anyway. |
| 02:15.03 | Mr_Rabies | i like how hozen have near invicincibility |
| 02:15.11 | Mr_Rabies | they've discovered the secret to immortality |
| 02:15.13 | Mr_Rabies | going bananas |
| 02:15.34 | kd3|netbook | that just takes 'running the hell away' |
| 02:15.53 | Xandr | they should rename "going bananas" to "going stuck" for the time being. |
| 02:18.08 | Amarande | heh, or "being stuck on your head so that no matter what they're not in front of you and you can't target them"? |
| 02:18.12 | kd3|netbook | hm. c'mon desktop. reconnect |
| 02:18.14 | Amarande | er, can't attack them |
| 02:23.50 | zenzelezz | <Amarande> heh, or "being stuck on your head so that no matter what they're not in front of you and you can't target them"? <--- sounds like the agent quest boss at the end of phase 1 SW:TOR |
| 02:24.08 | zenzelezz | at launch that is |
| 02:24.24 | zenzelezz | "oh you're ranged? Pity we bugged this guy so you have to be point-blank to be able to target him" |
| 02:25.09 | kd3|netbook | the only one I ran into that bugged out on me was scritch |
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| 02:26.44 | kd3|netbook | yay. that took too long |
| 02:32.17 | Mr_Rabies | they really need an alternative method to get ravenholdt rep |
| 02:32.36 | Mr_Rabies | i'd be okay with something just as insane, but leveling a rogue just to get rep is kinda dumb |
| 02:32.40 | Wobin | blah |
| 02:32.59 | Wobin | AC3 for $38 |
| 02:33.38 | Wobin | when it's $53 on Steam |
| 02:33.47 | Wobin | Steam AU, that is |
| 02:34.03 | Amarande | speaking of recent games, I'm still trying to figure out why FFXIII-2 is readily available at the local video game store, but there doesn't seem to be a copy of the original FFXIII in sight |
| 02:34.28 | kd3|netbook | if you're trying to get <the Insane>, well, the requirement is listed right there in the title |
| 02:34.33 | zenzelezz | one does not simply FFXIII |
| 02:35.01 | Mr_Rabies | yeah but it's not really insane at all kd3 |
| 02:35.15 | Wobin | ugh, ravenholdt rep |
| 02:35.38 | Mr_Rabies | step 1) level a rogue 2)macro some pickpocketing 3) get 1000 lockboxes 4) find a way to transfer them (can you mail them?) |
| 02:35.50 | Wobin | they're bop |
| 02:35.54 | Wobin | now, I think |
| 02:36.05 | Wobin | oh wait |
| 02:36.06 | Mr_Rabies | nah, that'd mean only rogues could get that title |
| 02:36.08 | Wobin | no, you can mail them |
| 02:36.16 | Wobin | I was remembering that you couldn't AH them |
| 02:36.19 | Mr_Rabies | you can't list them on the AH, which is dumb as heck |
| 02:36.20 | Mr_Rabies | :< |
| 02:36.27 | Wobin | I was all set to make MEEELIONS |
| 02:36.28 | Mr_Rabies | locked lockboxes should be listable |
| 02:36.30 | Wobin | then that came in =P |
| 02:36.50 | Wobin | and I was like "... what am I going to do with these hundreds of lockboxes =(" |
| 02:36.55 | Mr_Rabies | some guy's offering 160 lockboxes for 6g each |
| 02:36.56 | Mr_Rabies | ehhhhhh |
| 02:37.00 | Mr_Rabies | i think i'mma pass for now |
| 02:37.15 | Mr_Rabies | 160 is barely scratching the surface of how much rep i'll need |
| 02:37.20 | Wobin | There should be some trading market system |
| 02:37.32 | Wobin | the reverse AH |
| 02:37.40 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, they'll most likely add that |
| 02:39.40 | Mr_Rabies | i hope they merge all the AHs for each reagon and add purchase orders before Return of the Gnoll King |
| 02:39.45 | Mr_Rabies | reagon |
| 02:39.53 | Mr_Rabies | ronald reagan* |
| 02:41.04 | Mr_Rabies | i'd love to be able to make purchase orders |
| 02:41.07 | Wobin | is that the next content patch? |
| 02:41.18 | Wobin | When did the Gnoll King leave? |
| 02:41.18 | Mr_Rabies | hey peon, fetch me 1000 lockboxes for a measly sum |
| 02:41.23 | Mr_Rabies | i'll be like a quest giver |
| 02:41.27 | Wobin | "Work, work" |
| 02:41.36 | Mr_Rabies | when he was almost killed in the stockades |
| 02:42.37 | Mr_Rabies | oh god i was just joking but he is actually referred to as the gnoll king |
| 02:42.58 | Mr_Rabies | Warden Thelwater yells: This ends here, Hogger! // Warden Thelwater says: He's...he's dead? // Warden Thelwater says: It's simply too good to be true. You couldn't have killed him so easily! //Warden Thelwater says: You are truly great heroes for vanquishing the Gnoll King. People all throughout Elwynn Forest and Westfall will speak highly of your triumph for years to come. Thank you. |
| 02:45.51 | kd3|netbook | I'm still amused by http://www.wowpedia.org/Pile_of_Quillboar_Tusks |
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| 02:51.41 | Amarande | gah. WG is buggy still. :| |
| 02:51.53 | Amarande | 40 minutes left before it, and I still get dismounted and dropped without a parachute |
| 02:52.11 | Amarande | ... and forget to activate slow fall because it surprised me too much |
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| 03:05.26 | kd3|netbook | oh ye gods... millenials will be teenagers starting in a few days |
| 03:05.47 | Dagmar | Only because you're unwilling to do anything about it. |
| 03:06.43 | Amarande | kd3: heh, I've pretty much gotten inured to those kind of "I'm getting old" feelings |
| 03:06.58 | Amarande | I've worked for nearly fifteen years in a grocery store where I have to card people regularly for smokes and beer |
| 03:07.03 | Amarande | you get used to it there :p |
| 03:08.20 | Ackis | I don't get this... it's like Win 8 has two apps for everything... e.g. media player and that embedded one on the front page...they're distinct apps |
| 03:08.38 | Wobin | Ackis: yeah, I just ignore the embedded one =P |
| 03:10.02 | Ackis | just seems odd to have two |
| 03:10.21 | kd3|netbook | you're implying win8 makes sense |
| 03:10.34 | SuperPortia | Because WinRT doesn't have the desktop ones. |
| 03:10.58 | SuperPortia | The traditional desktop has maybe 10 years left on it before it's gone. |
| 03:11.16 | Arrowmaster | more than that |
| 03:11.24 | Amarande | Yeah, the desktop will be here for a long long time. |
| 03:11.34 | SuperPortia | Gone in terms of major development. |
| 03:11.46 | Wobin | They still have to come up with a replacement first =P |
| 03:11.50 | SuperPortia | 10 years before it's like the console. |
| 03:12.01 | kd3|netbook | as long as I have easy access to beefy hardware somewhere close by (preferably in-house), I don't care how I access it |
| 03:12.21 | SuperPortia | Windows 1.0 was the basis for the replacement of the console. This is the Windows 1.0 equivalent. |
| 03:13.31 | Arrowmaster | it may seem like a decent idea for home use but everything about win8 screams FUCK NO for business |
| 03:13.47 | SuperPortia | So did Windows 1.0 at the time. |
| 03:14.08 | SuperPortia | Business thought it was less efficient and didn't know why it was paying for all these new, useless mice. |
| 03:14.33 | kd3|netbook | yet win1 didn't get used. neither did win2. it wasn't until win3/wfw that they actually started getting marketshare |
| 03:15.06 | SuperPortia | So Windows 10 in 4-6 years should be on their version 3 of the Windows RT environment. |
| 03:15.12 | kd3|netbook | I suspect it's going to be the same for win8 and its followups |
| 03:15.31 | SuperPortia | Another 4-6 years after that and no major development houses will be doing desktop development. |
| 03:16.10 | Arrowmaster | are you suggesting everything is moving to win rt? |
| 03:16.26 | SuperPortia | That or away from Windows entirely. |
| 03:16.38 | Arrowmaster | that i could see |
| 03:16.42 | SuperPortia | Microsoft is betting the company on this. |
| 03:17.07 | Arrowmaster | there are a lot of jobs where you are not going to convince them to move away from the desktop |
| 03:17.38 | SuperPortia | They said the same thing about the console/DOS. What's preventing them? |
| 03:18.26 | Arrowmaster | im sorry but if i walk into a bank and they all have tablets connected to wifi im turning around and finding a new bank |
| 03:19.05 | SuperPortia | You say that now, but that also presumes that that's what will happen. |
| 03:19.12 | SuperPortia | Instead we're talking about adding touch to mice and keyboards. |
| 03:19.35 | SuperPortia | The mouse didn't replace the keyboard for everything, just for tasks where precision pointing was important. |
| 03:19.42 | Arrowmaster | win rt is for tablets |
| 03:19.51 | Arrowmaster | you are talking about win rt taking over |
| 03:20.01 | SuperPortia | WinRT isn't just for tablets. |
| 03:20.14 | SuperPortia | My surface has a keyboard and trackpad built right in. |
| 03:20.17 | Arrowmaster | sorry, its for arm processors |
| 03:20.22 | SuperPortia | And a tablet is just a disconnected all-in-one |
| 03:25.57 | SuperPortia | I think businesses will get behind it, if for no other reason, to feel modern and save money. |
| 03:34.07 | SuperPortia | Is there a way to get quest information via ID? |
| 03:34.24 | SuperPortia | !api getquest |
| 03:34.25 | lua_bot | Found 56 possible matches for 'getquest'. Please be more specific or check Google search results: http://is.gd/O6LG29 |
| 03:37.48 | Ackis | Arrowmaster, pompy, other xbox peeps: the walking dead complete on sale today for 800 points total |
| 03:38.49 | Arrowmaster | yeah i got ep1 for free, debating if the rest are worth it |
| 03:45.12 | Wobin | finished Deadlight last night |
| 03:45.17 | Wobin | at least the first runthrough |
| 03:45.29 | Wobin | I don't think I can be bothered with the nightmare runthrough |
| 03:49.19 | pompy | Ackis: yeahh idk |
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| 05:01.20 | karl_w_w | http://www.lamebook.com/les-miss/les-miss/ |
| 05:02.08 | Semlar|Mobile | herro |
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| 05:38.48 | pompy | http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/internet-memes-do-these-glasses-make-me-look-hipster.jpg |
| 05:43.39 | Cairenn|afk | mikma: lol |
| 05:43.41 | pompy | Arrowmaster: the hell Arrowmaster, how;d you ninja add yourself lol? i didnt accept anything |
| 05:43.52 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 05:44.32 | Arrowmaster | been here for a while |
| 05:44.42 | pompy | lol |
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| 05:53.14 | pompy | no campaign lol |
| 05:59.15 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 06:02.22 | Thunder_Child | pompy: your last 3 lines had 'lol' in them. For the sake of the children, please stop. |
| 06:03.04 | pompy | lol lol lol lol |
| 06:03.15 | Thunder_Child | I hate you so much |
| 06:03.26 | pompy | Arrowmaster: dont want to coop the campaign yet |
| 06:04.47 | Arrowmaster | why are you telling me this? |
| 06:05.01 | pompy | when i joined it said you were queuing up campaign |
| 06:05.18 | Arrowmaster | oh i was moving around in the menus, i invited you when i was in spartan ops |
| 06:06.12 | karl_w_w | lol Thunder_Child |
| 06:07.15 | Thunder_Child | Not going to bother me karl_w_w, see pompy was using it as punctuation, you are just trying to annoy me. |
| 06:09.02 | Semlar|Mobile | lol |
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| 06:55.45 | karl_w_w | lua> 825*.75 |
| 06:55.45 | lua_bot | karl_w_w: 618.75 |
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| 07:09.57 | Semlar|Mobile | you better not be doing math over there |
| 07:17.49 | Cairenn|afk | If you have 4 pencils and I have 7 apples, how many pancakes will fit on the roof? Purple, because aliens don't wear hats. |
| 07:19.45 | Semlar|Mobile | but it's saturday |
| 07:20.06 | Cairenn|afk | Then it must be the french fries. |
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| 08:05.41 | Jamash | bwahahahaha http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7416265700#1 |
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| 10:13.12 | karl_w_w | is walkind dead any good? |
| 10:13.22 | karl_w_w | the* |
| 10:16.38 | zenzelezz | which one; the comic, TV series or game? |
| 10:16.49 | zenzelezz | either way, people seem to like it |
| 10:17.03 | karl_w_w | tv series |
| 10:21.08 | zenzelezz | I watched the first half of season one, found it reasonably good, but then forgot about it and never felt the urge to go back and watch the rest |
| 10:23.12 | Jammer | is quite decent, especially for being about zombies :p |
| 10:24.43 | zenzelezz | yeah, better than the average |
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| 10:41.08 | blufailedpasscow | :( |
| 10:41.15 | blufailedpasscow | oh dear. oh well. |
| 10:42.52 | Jammer | bluimpostorcow |
| 10:43.30 | blufailedpasscow | lol |
| 10:43.36 | blufailedpasscow | Hi cutie |
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| 10:53.12 | Fisker | hey blufailedpasscow |
| 10:53.19 | Fisker | how are you celebrating fiskermas today? |
| 10:55.25 | blufailedpasscow | by fondling an effigy of you of course |
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| 11:10.18 | rtharper | Fisker: is today your birthday? |
| 11:12.13 | zenzelezz | every day is Fisker's birthday |
| 11:15.57 | Fisker | yep |
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| 11:29.06 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/vegans.jpg |
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| 12:11.41 | Fisker | shit man |
| 12:14.15 | Fisker | there goes my education :( |
| 12:14.23 | Fisker | Apparently you can't block ICMP Echo requests |
| 12:14.52 | Fisker | source: Someone who can use tracert and then called customer service on his ISP and asked them to do the same thing :( |
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| 12:21.38 | mikma | rtharper: kives |
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| 13:30.17 | karl_w_w | u cant block them but u can ignore them, Fisker |
| 13:46.15 | mikma | yeah, i think you can drop the ICMP echo's |
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| 13:58.07 | Xandr | Awesome. It's weekend and I can't login to WoW :( |
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| 14:00.52 | mikma | xandr: shit happens when you party naked |
| 14:07.07 | Xandr | The forum rage is entertaining though |
| 14:07.12 | mikma | yeah |
| 14:07.14 | mikma | it always is |
| 14:07.23 | mikma | "i'm cancelling my subscription!" |
| 14:07.42 | Xandr | Gief refundz! |
| 14:07.48 | mikma | they will |
| 14:07.51 | mikma | they always do |
| 14:08.39 | karl_w_w | i've found a way to give yourself an lfr group that's in progress, you watch the group fill up and if it looks like it's about to fill queue for a pvp pet battle and go in, and it'll pause your lfr queue. repeat until lfr queue pops without the group filling up |
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| 14:09.37 | karl_w_w | every time u do it ur more likely to get an in-progress cos u have been in queue longest |
| 14:10.14 | Xandr | Find me a way to get guaranteed on-last-boss-lfrs and you're my hero :) |
| 14:17.43 | karl_w_w | not possible :P |
| 14:43.35 | blufailedpasscow | lol |
| 14:48.15 | Fisker | lololo karl_w_w |
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| 14:51.52 | blufailedpasscow | "<Xandr> The forum rage is entertaining though" Well of course. 'cause now they have to talk to their families. You know how devastating that is for nerds :P |
| 14:57.35 | Adys | alright |
| 14:57.39 | Adys | theres 4 people online on my server |
| 14:57.43 | Adys | one of them is camping TLPD |
| 14:58.04 | Adys | ive just killed every single rare in pandaria, and i am strolling through uldum to try get the camel |
| 14:58.13 | Adys | anything else fun I can do being almost alone here? :P |
| 15:01.44 | blufailedpasscow | fondle the opposite alliance faction chief |
| 15:03.41 | iShirik | Failedpasscow? |
| 15:09.11 | blufailedpasscow | :( |
| 15:09.29 | blufailedpasscow | i r fail |
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| 15:14.54 | durcyn | have you tried a stool softener, blufailedpasscow? |
| 15:16.05 | iShirik | Confused blufailedpasscow |
| 15:16.09 | iShirik | How fail |
| 15:18.15 | blufailedpasscow | flummoxed my ircs password |
| 15:19.28 | durcyn | it may be too late to mention that you can attach an email address to your nick registration |
| 15:21.23 | blufailedpasscow | ... |
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| 15:58.48 | Thunder_Child | mmm....thunder and lightning |
| 16:02.00 | karl_w_w | Adys capture some pets |
| 16:02.19 | karl_w_w | some of them are super rare like the minfernal |
| 16:02.45 | Fisker | no |
| 16:02.47 | Fisker | not even a bit |
| 16:05.36 | karl_w_w | hey Fisker |
| 16:05.42 | Fisker | hey karl_w_w |
| 16:12.58 | Thunder_Child | and now the waterworks have started |
| 16:16.10 | karl_w_w | you're afraid of thunderstorms so you're crying? :P |
| 16:21.35 | Thunder_Child | no, the clouds are afraid and they are crying |
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| 16:35.15 | mckenziemc | i would cry too if i was near Thunder_Child |
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| 16:45.52 | Thunder_Child | Damn right you would mckenziemc |
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| 17:18.23 | karl_w_w | http://www.assetstorage.co.uk/AssetStorageService.svc/GetImageFriendly/717638711/800/797/0/0/1/80/ResizeBestFit/0/FRU/83DA5649C2EB51AC402888936480DD00/claremont.jpg is this picture visible to everyone? |
| 17:19.05 | Thunder_Child | it is too me |
| 17:19.08 | Thunder_Child | to* |
| 17:19.52 | karl_w_w | good-oh |
| 17:20.10 | karl_w_w | that's stuart pearce in the white shirt :P |
| 17:32.48 | bluworkcow | who ? |
| 17:35.07 | karl_w_w | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Pearce |
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| 17:46.58 | bluworkcow | mad ? |
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| 17:59.45 | VIad | karl_w_w: yes |
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| 18:10.23 | Arrowmaster | my file transfers to microsd cards keep slowing down to 7MB/s no matter the card |
| 18:10.29 | Arrowmaster | this is going to take forever |
| 18:11.18 | karl_w_w | that's not so bad |
| 18:11.31 | Arrowmaster | they start out at 20MB/s |
| 18:11.55 | karl_w_w | its probably connected via a usb2 host controller |
| 18:12.16 | Arrowmaster | usb3 port but a usb2 microsd to usb adapter |
| 18:12.35 | Arrowmaster | it might help if i wasnt trying to copy 27GB at once |
| 18:12.54 | karl_w_w | what if u connect it some other way |
| 18:13.08 | karl_w_w | eg. put it in your phone |
| 18:13.53 | Thunder_Child | I doubt that has usb 3 either |
| 18:15.26 | karl_w_w | no but 7 MB/s is on the slow side even for 2.0 |
| 18:16.15 | Arrowmaster | its to a microSD card though |
| 18:16.37 | VIad | is wow unstable in eu today? :P haven't played for a while and can't enter the world :( |
| 18:16.47 | Stanzilla | no |
| 18:16.52 | bluworkcow | wow hates you now vlad |
| 18:16.55 | bluworkcow | u mad? |
| 18:17.21 | karl_w_w | wow hasnt been unstable in a long time |
| 18:18.00 | VIad | http://i.imgur.com/epvMw.jpg stops here then kicked out to login screen :P |
| 18:18.15 | karl_w_w | it was a bit patchy a couple of times around mop launch, but it hasnt been properly unstable since DS I think |
| 18:18.23 | karl_w_w | when there were slow loot problems |
| 18:18.54 | karl_w_w | when it stops there it means u arent getting connection to the world server |
| 18:19.24 | karl_w_w | so either it's down or some problem between you and it |
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| 18:27.02 | karl_w_w | Cairenn|afk: http://www.damnyouautocorrect.com/40957/murder-it-or-snuggle-it/ |
| 18:36.03 | Fisker | there's connection issues VIad |
| 18:36.07 | Fisker | if you hadn't already figured out |
| 18:36.32 | VIad | Fisker: think it's localized issue to some servers, can't access northrend myself :D |
| 18:37.04 | Fisker | it seems to be affecting a lot of players and basically all wow realms + the forums |
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| 18:38.16 | VIad | I'm online in pandaria |
| 18:38.19 | VIad | (no issues) :D |
| 18:39.04 | wereHamster | congrats. Here, have a cookie |
| 18:39.28 | Fisker | lucky VIad |
| 18:39.34 | Fisker | apparently Adys had no issues either |
| 18:39.44 | VIad | point is, it looks like it's some servers, not entire realms |
| 18:40.00 | Fisker | it is entire realms VIad |
| 18:40.05 | Fisker | the realms are online |
| 18:40.08 | VIad | my realm works fine |
| 18:40.10 | Fisker | just some issues with routing |
| 18:40.12 | VIad | yeah |
| 18:40.29 | Fisker | though infact |
| 18:40.33 | VIad | but if it's the entire realms then no one would get online no? :P |
| 18:40.37 | Fisker | i believe they have a few realms hosted outside of telia |
| 18:40.39 | VIad | a realm isn't just 1 machine |
| 18:41.02 | Fisker | if the realm was the source then noone could get online no |
| 18:41.08 | Fisker | but that wasn't what i said |
| 18:41.11 | Ressy | If 1 realm is up, then the entire datacenter is fine. |
| 18:41.21 | Fisker | i said the issue affects pretty much everyone in pretty much everywhere |
| 18:41.26 | VIad | yeah |
| 18:41.31 | Dagmar | Internet weather is kind of bad today. |
| 18:41.41 | VIad | shame it affects my character in northrend :P |
| 18:41.41 | Fisker | yep |
| 18:41.52 | Fisker | time to find that huge linksys router and unplug it |
| 18:42.15 | Dagmar | I can't recharge my Ingress portals for crap today. Queries are only managing to get through after many seconds of latency. |
| 18:42.52 | Dagmar | ...which is of course happening while I'm trying to debug my data-gathering proxy... "Is it f**king working or is my code bugging out?" |
| 18:43.45 | Dagmar | THe Resistance here is utilizing a pay-to-win scenario, so fuck them. I'll deploy haxoring countermeasures. |
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| 18:44.38 | VIad | tried to play the Ingress game but couldn't, locked up, so I uninstalled it :P |
| 18:45.20 | Dagmar | When was this/ |
| 18:45.27 | VIad | 10 min ago |
| 18:45.40 | Dagmar | Weird. What kind of device were you using? |
| 18:46.08 | Dagmar | It actually works fine on most stuff. |
| 18:46.17 | VIad | galaxy s2 9100i |
| 18:46.27 | Dagmar | It's rather likely it was hung up trying to sync to the servers. |
| 18:46.36 | VIad | if it helps, I don't usually have gps on and such |
| 18:46.50 | Dagmar | You *do* have to have GPS on, and a data connection is required. |
| 18:46.53 | VIad | maybe it went nuts when it wasn't allowed to get location data :P |
| 18:46.54 | Arrowmaster | i managed to snag an invite code on the local subreddit christmas morning, i got as far as the point where you select your side before i had to leave |
| 18:47.07 | Dagmar | THe client will generally just tell you to piss off without GPS. |
| 18:47.15 | VIad | so it said, but didn't expect it to hang up without even checking first, besides it has permissions to control wifi/gps :P |
| 18:47.38 | Dagmar | It can't/won't turn it on itself if you have it turned off. |
| 18:47.44 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: i take it im supposed to pick the resistance side? |
| 18:47.49 | Dagmar | Permissions just let it activate it when GPS is enabled. |
| 18:48.09 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: WTF. Have you lost your mind? Extradimensional aliens are trying to give us cheat codes to reality, man. |
| 18:49.00 | VIad | even if ingress worked for me, it's too cold for me to care to go outside LOL :D |
| 18:49.16 | Dagmar | Well, yes... impending "wintry mix" is keeping me inside at the moment as well. |
| 18:49.32 | VIad | its cold, dark, and ice on the ground |
| 18:49.47 | Dagmar | For "just cold" I have all kinds of leather and denim and stuff to keep me warm. |
| 18:49.53 | VIad | snow melted during the day, and now its cold so yeah, it's death out there |
| 18:50.13 | Dagmar | Between the trenchcoat and the biker jacket and jackboots and mittens and hoodie, I'm good to about 15F. |
| 18:50.24 | mckenziemc | bakes VIad |
| 18:50.44 | VIad | mckenziemc: I didn't know you like human meat |
| 18:50.45 | Dagmar | Actually, I could probably fall down a flight or two of stairs and not feel it. Heheh |
| 18:50.55 | Arrowmaster | ive been wearing my blizzcon hoodie and duster out |
| 18:51.18 | mckenziemc | no VIad, but i hear Fisker does |
| 18:51.31 | VIad | it's true, some fish eat men :p |
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| 18:51.41 | VIad | fisker is plural for fish in norwegian :p |
| 18:51.43 | mckenziemc | also typing in qwerty sucks :\ |
| 18:52.10 | Dagmar | Push that little microphone icon. |
| 18:54.10 | mckenziemc | i use dvassist, i just forgot then decided not to switch it back |
| 18:55.45 | mckenziemc | too lazy to fix black mesa's bindings :) |
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| 20:27.15 | Arrowmaster | well this is interesting, i just tried out two mkv's with DTS audio on my PocketTV and both worked |
| 20:27.35 | Mr_Rabies | try something with 10-bit video :O |
| 20:27.58 | Arrowmaster | yet the player im using has dropped DTS decoding support, and i doubt they licensed it for the hardware either |
| 20:28.10 | Arrowmaster | im guessing its passing the bitstream to the TV via hdmi? |
| 20:28.40 | Arrowmaster | Mr_Rabies: SD video barely plays on the software decoder, i doubt 10-bit HD is going to even be possible |
| 20:28.47 | Mr_Rabies | oh, lol |
| 20:28.49 | Mr_Rabies | dang |
| 20:29.06 | Mr_Rabies | i'm still looking into options for playing my anime on my projector |
| 20:29.23 | Mr_Rabies | 10-bit video doesn't work with the wdtv live |
| 20:29.24 | Arrowmaster | its a 1ghz A9 and Mali-400MP |
| 20:29.27 | Mr_Rabies | but everything else does :( |
| 20:29.41 | Mr_Rabies | the wdtv live has a... |
| 20:29.57 | Arrowmaster | 10-bit means software decoding until somebody comes out with hardware that can do it |
| 20:30.05 | Arrowmaster | and nobody is rushing to do that |
| 20:30.23 | Mr_Rabies | Sigma Designs SMP8655 SoC inside the WD TV Live features a 500 MHz CPU, a 333 MHz coprocessor, a 333 MHz DSP, 512 MB of DRAM, and 256 MB of NAND flash memory. |
| 20:30.27 | Mr_Rabies | SoC is wild stuff |
| 20:30.56 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats fairly weak, so everything must be doing hardware decoding |
| 20:31.17 | Mr_Rabies | it is |
| 20:31.29 | Mr_Rabies | it handles 1080p hd with no problems |
| 20:31.30 | Arrowmaster | have you considered a DNLA server? |
| 20:31.33 | Mr_Rabies | just, no support for 10-bit |
| 20:31.35 | Mr_Rabies | i have one |
| 20:31.41 | Arrowmaster | does it work? |
| 20:31.47 | Mr_Rabies | but DLNA is clunky and awkward |
| 20:32.11 | Mr_Rabies | i really wish the xbox 360 had a decent media player built in |
| 20:32.13 | Mr_Rabies | :( |
| 20:32.13 | Arrowmaster | cant run something like XBMC on the wdlive? |
| 20:32.19 | Mr_Rabies | nah |
| 20:32.58 | Cairenn|afk | karl_w_w: lol |
| 20:32.59 | Arrowmaster | i was thinking i would have to use DNLA with the pockettv for anything with DTS audio but im happy to find out i dont |
| 20:33.58 | Arrowmaster | if a decent sub group would release berserk movie2 soon i would run and test that on it |
| 20:35.04 | Mr_Rabies | looks like one subgroup did |
| 20:35.11 | Mr_Rabies | P3, but i've never heard of them |
| 20:35.38 | Mr_Rabies | ew the subs are a translation of the french |
| 20:35.45 | Mr_Rabies | fansub script |
| 20:35.48 | Mr_Rabies | sooo |
| 20:35.55 | Mr_Rabies | still waiting on a "decent subgroup" |
| 20:36.02 | karl_w_w | when's the last time the french did anything useful anyway? |
| 20:36.37 | Arrowmaster | yeah im waiting for somebody like THORA |
| 20:36.50 | Arrowmaster | i know people bitch about them but at least its still good |
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| 20:37.22 | Fisker | btw Arrowmaster |
| 20:37.24 | Fisker | speaking of dts audio |
| 20:37.45 | Fisker | on XBMC most titles that is identified with DTS audios seems to be producing a kind of static/noise |
| 20:37.51 | Fisker | any idea what could cause that? |
| 20:38.03 | Arrowmaster | software decoding? |
| 20:38.13 | Fisker | i think so |
| 20:38.31 | Arrowmaster | could be something with the software decoder and dynamic range compression |
| 20:38.44 | Mr_Rabies | does your receiver not support dts properly? |
| 20:38.49 | Fisker | it doesn't |
| 20:38.52 | Fisker | shitty old tv :P |
| 20:39.07 | Fisker | i was hoping that could fix it |
| 20:39.19 | Mr_Rabies | thats probably it then, being transcoded to something else |
| 20:39.20 | karl_w_w | tell your xbox to only output lpcm? |
| 20:39.24 | Arrowmaster | the bitstream codecs can also be a bitch if the file doesnt have the proper fps |
| 20:39.35 | Fisker | maybe that as well then |
| 20:39.51 | Arrowmaster | somebody puts in 23.976 manually instead of 24000/1001 |
| 20:40.00 | Fisker | I'm doing a lot of shit with framerates because of the frame-skip issue or whatever it is with the intel onboard gpu |
| 20:40.11 | Arrowmaster | but that causes more of hickups every so often, not a constant issue |
| 20:40.14 | Neffi | Are these quality rips, or shitty re-encodes off TPB? |
| 20:40.28 | Fisker | they are scene rips |
| 20:40.31 | Arrowmaster | oh intel onboard gpu? do you have one with the 24fps problem? |
| 20:40.40 | Fisker | yep |
| 20:40.43 | Fisker | but i "fixed" it |
| 20:40.50 | Mr_Rabies | my wdtv has a serious problem with .ogg audio inside mkvs |
| 20:40.52 | Fisker | and the issue cannot be reproduced on my own computer at all |
| 20:40.59 | Mr_Rabies | it can play ogg audio by itself |
| 20:41.03 | Mr_Rabies | but when it's in a container it breaks |
| 20:41.07 | Fisker | not even when outputting to the same tv |
| 20:41.11 | Neffi | HDMI -> TV? |
| 20:41.14 | Fisker | yep |
| 20:41.17 | Neffi | hmm |
| 20:41.20 | Fisker | don't have any fancy setup :P |
| 20:41.27 | Mr_Rabies | apparently the new beta firmware fixes that bug, though |
| 20:41.42 | Mr_Rabies | so i can't wait for that to release |
| 20:41.48 | Neffi | I'm not familiar with XMBC, but see if you can get into the settings for the audio renderer |
| 20:41.48 | Arrowmaster | Mr_Rabies: i think they double container it when they put it in mkv, its thedora audio in an ogg container in an mkv container |
| 20:42.01 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 20:42.08 | Mr_Rabies | it's not really part of the standard to have ogg |
| 20:42.15 | Neffi | Perhaps it's throwing a samplerate your TV doesn't quite handle |
| 20:42.30 | Mr_Rabies | ogg also really sucks, i don't know why people use it for anything |
| 20:42.31 | Arrowmaster | Mr_Rabies: but a lot of commerical things have issues with ogg anyway |
| 20:43.02 | Fisker | i don't think xbmc can handle the bitrates specifically |
| 20:43.03 | Neffi | Mr_Rabies: I don't know why you'd say that. The OGG container is perfectly fine, and *Vorbis* is quite good. |
| 20:43.11 | Fisker | i remember trying to set them on a system level to no effect |
| 20:43.13 | Neffi | Compatibility issues aside, it's a great code |
| 20:43.14 | Neffi | c |
| 20:43.19 | Mr_Rabies | because there's other stuff out there that works fine |
| 20:43.27 | Fisker | maybe i should see if xbmc 12 solves it |
| 20:43.51 | Neffi | Works fine doesn't mean better. Compatibility issues can't fairly be counted against the codec, when it's the implementation's fault. |
| 20:44.07 | Mr_Rabies | i count it against the codec |
| 20:44.09 | Mr_Rabies | fair or not |
| 20:44.32 | Fisker | could be server 2012 messing up as well |
| 20:44.50 | Neffi | R2 or no? |
| 20:44.57 | Fisker | server 2012 |
| 20:45.00 | Fisker | doesn't have an R2 yet |
| 20:45.04 | Neffi | I remember people having issues with Vista's audio layer, but I've never had issues with Win7's |
| 20:45.09 | Neffi | Ohh, 2012 |
| 20:46.20 | karl_w_w | i wonder if a raspberry pi could handle 10 bit video :P |
| 20:46.26 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 20:46.29 | Neffi | last I checked it cannot |
| 20:46.48 | Arrowmaster | the pi has got extremely weak hardware |
| 20:47.04 | Arrowmaster | its only positive is the price |
| 20:47.10 | Neffi | From what I hear, its CPU is roughly on the order of a Pentium 2 |
| 20:47.42 | Neffi | its GPU is the only appreciable thing about it. IMO it's a better bargain to buy a used smartphone. You'd get several times the CPU and GPU power. It'd just be more work to hack a working Linux distro onto it |
| 20:47.53 | Arrowmaster | for comparison its suggested to have at least a P4 to attempt software decoding of HD |
| 20:48.21 | Neffi | My old P4 struggled like hell with any decent-profile 720p, and couldn't do 1080 at all |
| 20:49.21 | Neffi | If you're looking for super-cheap, I'd go with an Atom-based setup with a GPU capable of hardware decode. Atoms aren't amazing, but they're much faster than any ARM chip |
| 20:49.33 | wereHamster | tegra ? |
| 20:49.42 | karl_w_w | i had a k6 which could barely handle any video at all |
| 20:49.49 | wereHamster | the nvidia chip should be able to accelerate video decoding |
| 20:49.52 | Neffi | I haven't kept up-to-date with the more recent Atoms, so shop around |
| 20:49.55 | Arrowmaster | only tegra3, stay the fuck away from tegra2 |
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| 20:50.33 | Neffi | You can get pre-packaged mobo + CPU + GPU setups with Tegra or with other GPUs for relatively cheap |
| 20:50.43 | Neffi | Under $200, a bunch under $100 as well |
| 20:50.43 | Arrowmaster | tegra2 is missing all the NEON stuff so its terrible at video |
| 20:51.59 | Neffi | AMD APUs might be a nice choice too |
| 20:52.00 | Jamash | I read NEON as NUON and was like "wat" |
| 20:52.28 | Neffi | Newegg has quite a few CPU+GPU+Mobo setups with AMD APUs in them for relatively cheap |
| 20:52.56 | Arrowmaster | somebody in here has an mk802iii and says its great |
| 20:52.57 | Neffi | Throw in some RAM and a USB stick for the OS, and hook it up to your NAS / stream from your main computer / whatever |
| 20:53.59 | Arrowmaster | almost everything mentioned except the atom is still not powerful enough for 10bit h264 |
| 20:54.26 | Jamash | so you want hardware decoding |
| 20:54.39 | Arrowmaster | nothing does 10bit hardware decoding |
| 20:55.00 | Jamash | don't watch 10bit video? |
| 20:55.22 | Neffi | Ask yourself if you really need 10bit |
| 20:55.45 | Arrowmaster | its actually quite nice for anime |
| 20:55.47 | Neffi | If you can afford a monitor or TV with the color accuracy to actually offer appreciable 10-bit playback, you can afford a very good setup to play it |
| 20:55.50 | Jamash | why do they call it 10 instead of 30? |
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| 20:55.56 | Arrowmaster | you can see a noticeable reduction in banding |
| 20:58.05 | Jamash | are there any display devices capable of displaying 10 bits per channel? |
| 20:58.17 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 20:58.20 | Jamash | huh |
| 20:58.24 | Jamash | news to me |
| 20:58.45 | Arrowmaster | there are major benefits in decoding with 10bit even if you dont have a 10bit display |
| 20:59.14 | Jamash | less aliasing? |
| 20:59.42 | Fisker | isn't it about better compression? |
| 20:59.48 | Neffi | Jamash: Most professional-grade monitors are 10-bit native. See NEC, DreamColor, EIZO, and others |
| 21:00.00 | Mr_Rabies | not just that, many subgroups only release in 10-bit nowadays |
| 21:00.05 | Jamash | nyet, 30bpp is moar bits than 24bpp |
| 21:00.05 | cbreak | most GPUs are 8 bit native. |
| 21:00.12 | cbreak | (well, float internally) |
| 21:00.22 | Mr_Rabies | basically you can have smaller files since they have to resort to fewer tricks to reduce banding |
| 21:00.23 | cbreak | and DVI? hmm... |
| 21:00.30 | Jamash | really |
| 21:00.32 | Jamash | fascinating |
| 21:00.37 | Jamash | oh I think I get it |
| 21:00.38 | Mr_Rabies | i.e. boosting the bitrate, etc to reduce banding |
| 21:01.10 | Jamash | I think smarter encoders would work wonders but that would require being smarter instead of throwing more hardware at the problem |
| 21:01.31 | Mr_Rabies | if the wdtv would only support 10-bit video i'd be set |
| 21:01.38 | Jamash | it is perfectly possible with block-based encoders to allocate more bits to bandier parts of the image |
| 21:01.40 | Mr_Rabies | it handles 99% of everything else |
| 21:01.47 | Neffi | Encoders are still forced to work within their limitations. So I can see how 10-bit processing is beneficial. |
| 21:01.48 | Arrowmaster | anime is one of the big influences on improving encoders |
| 21:01.56 | Mr_Rabies | but now with subgroups releasing almost exclusively in 10bit it's getting more and more useless |
| 21:02.04 | Arrowmaster | mbtree was developed for anime but it helps everywhere |
| 21:02.09 | Jamash | really |
| 21:02.22 | Jamash | also fascinating |
| 21:02.30 | Arrowmaster | mbtree is fucking amazing at low bitrates |
| 21:02.48 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, some of the sperglords in the anime subgroup dramafest are pushing encoding tech pretty far |
| 21:03.14 | Neffi | Arrowmaster: What kind of playback setup do you use? |
| 21:03.43 | Neffi | I've been using MPC->LAV decoder->MAD renderer, and it looks quite nice |
| 21:03.49 | Jamash | that's 67kbps? holy shit |
| 21:03.51 | VIad | Semlar: your addon flashes each time I push a button :P |
| 21:03.51 | Arrowmaster | mines all messed up since ive been without a desktop for months |
| 21:04.28 | Mr_Rabies | i do either wdtv natively or universal media server->wdtv/ps3/x360 |
| 21:04.42 | Mr_Rabies | the latter most often |
| 21:04.49 | Mr_Rabies | to transcode 10bit to something else |
| 21:04.50 | Jamash | ok yeah mbtree sounds exactly like what I was talking about |
| 21:04.54 | Jamash | so I stand corrected |
| 21:05.27 | Neffi | that is very impressive |
| 21:05.49 | Arrowmaster | yeah it superpowers the encoder without needing to modify decoders |
| 21:19.04 | Neffi | On this topic, why isn't effort being put into vector-based codecs for anime? |
| 21:19.14 | Neffi | Wouldn't that be hugely preferable? |
| 21:19.15 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://youtu.be/GU8l6w_2rIU |
| 21:19.52 | Cairenn|afk | awwww |
| 21:20.23 | Cairenn|afk | Does pretty well moving around even with his disability |
| 21:20.45 | Arrowmaster | Neffi: i doubt we have the hardware to do it better than block encoding currently |
| 21:20.46 | foxlit | Neffi: yes, but no. |
| 21:20.47 | Neffi | My friend's 3-legged cat could outrun anything else he had |
| 21:20.53 | Neffi | The shit drifted around corners |
| 21:20.58 | Neffi | used to chase the pitbulls around |
| 21:21.01 | Neffi | it was purely awesome |
| 21:21.18 | mikma | cairenn|afk: amazing speed at some point |
| 21:21.21 | mikma | rtharper: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/meanwhile_in_finland25.jpg |
| 21:21.22 | Cairenn|afk | yeah |
| 21:21.49 | Neffi | Hmm |
| 21:22.12 | Neffi | I wonder if the powerhouse GPUs we've got nowadays would be sufficient hardware to vectorize |
| 21:22.14 | foxlit | not everything, even in anime, is vector-based, and general-purpose codecs are generally more useful |
| 21:22.16 | Neffi | doesn't seem implausible |
| 21:22.33 | Neffi | More useful, yes |
| 21:22.59 | Arrowmaster | plus to truely be better the anime would have to be originally encoded with the vector codec |
| 21:23.15 | Arrowmaster | directly from the source |
| 21:23.29 | foxlit | should go directly for imagination-based codecs, tbh |
| 21:23.35 | Neffi | Potentially a smart enough encoder could produce great vectorizations |
| 21:23.41 | foxlit | "Imagine a guy standing in front of a car in a norwegian forest..." |
| 21:23.46 | Neffi | lol |
| 21:23.58 | foxlit | later: "same guy walks into a bar..." |
| 21:25.16 | zenzelezz | "Oh yes. It runs on the world's most powerful graphics chip, imagination" |
| 21:26.31 | rtharper | mikma: your bros? |
| 21:30.25 | Stanzilla | foxlit: was there ever a send or export option for opie rings? |
| 21:31.13 | foxlit | Stanzilla: http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/opie-share |
| 21:31.45 | Stanzilla | oh |
| 21:31.46 | Stanzilla | thanks |
| 21:32.11 | foxlit | Hm, I suppose allowing you to serialize rings and share them offline would be a reasonable improvement to that |
| 21:32.19 | VIad | I keep winning items in LFR in ToES |
| 21:32.24 | VIad | sadly it's the WRONG items lol |
| 21:32.24 | Stanzilla | yes that's actually what I need foxlit |
| 21:32.31 | Stanzilla | no second account to trick that |
| 21:32.35 | VIad | got like 4 pairs of gauntlets of the shadows caress now -_- |
| 21:33.23 | foxlit | Stanzilla: the problem is that it's almost as secure as letting people run arbitrary code. |
| 21:33.42 | Stanzilla | sounds like fun |
| 21:33.46 | Stanzilla | delete my items pls |
| 21:34.21 | foxlit | But I suppose that's a futile battle; you can already tell people to use /run wipe(_G) in a macro |
| 21:34.38 | mikma | rtharper: no |
| 21:34.41 | mikma | rtharper: too hairy |
| 21:34.55 | mikma | semlar: this is so so so good addon |
| 21:35.04 | Humbedooh | rtharper: mikma likes his bros smooth |
| 21:35.21 | karl_w_w | wipes foxlit's _G |
| 21:35.23 | mikma | semlar: you should rename it to GPS like i wanted (lol) and release it Gay Player System |
| 21:35.33 | mikma | rtharper: pidän miehistä ilman karvoja |
| 21:39.12 | VIad | Semlar: also if I go healing as feral my HOTs don't show on the CD ;) |
| 21:39.29 | VIad | did a LFR raid testing it out to see if I find more bugs |
| 21:54.21 | matt1s | In Auctioneer, in the Appraiser tab, an item can for instance say [Nightseye] a new line and then 6 (blue) / 2 (green) / 1 (yellow). Any idea what those numbers mean and what their color signify? I could not find any info in the documentation, and no replies in #norganna |
| 21:54.39 | stuf | matt1s: AFAIK the price levels |
| 21:54.57 | stuf | blue is underpriced, green low priced, yellow is normal priced or so |
| 21:55.00 | stuf | compared to baseline |
| 21:55.13 | matt1s | ah! ok, that makes sense |
| 21:55.21 | stuf | or so i've understood it, anycase |
| 21:55.40 | matt1s | Just checked one of the items, it correlates |
| 21:56.01 | stuf | awesome! |
| 21:56.05 | stuf | :D |
| 21:56.09 | matt1s | Thanks :) |
| 22:08.21 | VIad | Transfer Aborted: cross-realm zone is down |
| 22:08.22 | VIad | lol :D |
| 22:08.32 | VIad | finished my LFD and now it tries to auto teleport me out but it can't |
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| 22:35.09 | Semlar | hiiiiiiiii viad |
| 22:35.16 | VIad | hey |
| 22:35.31 | VIad | submited two things, check the log ;) mentioned your name |
| 22:35.33 | Semlar | you don't like the sparkley glitter my addon puts on your action buttons |
| 22:36.06 | VIad | is it supposed to show each time I click the button? |
| 22:36.22 | VIad | I thought it was a "action is ready" thing :P |
| 22:36.54 | Semlar | nah it's just an effect to show what button you pushed |
| 22:37.11 | Semlar | so.. probably not all that useful |
| 22:37.15 | VIad | ah ok |
| 22:37.28 | VIad | it was a bit obscuring :P |
| 22:37.31 | VIad | distracting ;D |
| 22:37.34 | Semlar | i added it as a way for me to see that my script was detecting button presses correct |
| 22:37.40 | Semlar | and just left it in |
| 22:37.46 | Semlar | because it's mesmerizing |
| 22:37.53 | VIad | it's a good addon |
| 22:38.01 | VIad | would be even more popular if it had a config screen ;D |
| 22:38.05 | Semlar | well, people have been asking for options for like years |
| 22:38.08 | VIad | fonts, sizes, on/off stuff |
| 22:38.22 | VIad | hehe |
| 22:38.26 | Semlar | i sort of started the process but never actually made a configuration menu |
| 22:38.34 | Semlar | most of the settings are at the top of the file |
| 22:38.43 | VIad | I think making a UI is lots of work sadly |
| 22:38.50 | VIad | for such a "little" part of the addon :P |
| 22:39.54 | Semlar | yeah |
| 22:40.13 | Semlar | it takes as much time as writing the part that actually does stuff |
| 22:40.16 | Semlar | if not more |
| 22:41.06 | Semlar | well, anyway i just got back home so i'm not going to be on long but i'll be back later tonight |
| 22:41.14 | VIad | :D |
| 22:41.16 | VIad | what are you doing? |
| 22:41.21 | Semlar | dinner |
| 22:41.28 | VIad | aah nice |
| 22:41.31 | VIad | 23:40 here :D |
| 22:41.36 | Semlar | 5:40 |
| 22:41.39 | VIad | what are you making? |
| 22:41.51 | Semlar | well i'm meeting some family members |
| 22:42.08 | Semlar | food, mostly |
| 22:42.27 | Semlar | i'm not actually preparing anything myself |
| 22:43.27 | Semlar | oh that cooldown addon is one of the only ones i've ever seriously worked on and uploaded |
| 22:43.46 | Semlar | a lot of work went into the original version |
| 22:44.13 | Semlar | and it's been kind of whittled down to what it is now, which is out of date |
| 22:50.17 | VIad | :( |
| 22:50.23 | VIad | but you spend so much time making addons |
| 22:50.33 | VIad | I see you working on piece here or there a lot |
| 22:50.47 | Semlar | yeah i'm not so good at finishing things though |
| 22:51.20 | Semlar | anyway, i gotta go for now so i'll be back in a few hours |
| 22:51.36 | Semlar | you can talk at me while i'm gone |
| 23:01.32 | VIad | Semlar: what do you think of http://vlacula.no-ip.com/wow/zdkp/s=Database&details made this to show a full report of all activity of a profile :D |
| 23:02.20 | VIad | http://vlacula.no-ip.com/wow/zdkp/h=3 with alts support; merges characters into one profile and says your main name with a mark indicating that this happened with your alt and such |
| 23:02.38 | VIad | even works on cross realm units, doubt it would be useful but it's nice to have the support I guess :P |
| 23:05.43 | VIad | you can login using test:test account to check the admin interface if you like, Semlar ;) |
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