| 00:05.26 | Mr_Rabies | urgh, i stopped whining and did another dungeon |
| 00:05.38 | Mr_Rabies | 50% of the group's dps for a whole instance :| |
| 00:06.12 | Mr_Rabies | i understand fresh 90s are gonna do crap dps, but 20k dps being #2 on the list is pretty miserable :| |
| 00:07.16 | Neffi | honestly when im in randoms, i really only exert myself if it's needed |
| 00:07.33 | Neffi | if we're managing things above par, then i take the chance to simplify my rotation and relax |
| 00:07.54 | Neffi | which is pretty much always in these ass-easy entry-level dungeons |
| 00:12.43 | Mr_Rabies | :| |
| 00:12.46 | Mr_Rabies | why not get done faster, though |
| 00:13.00 | Mr_Rabies | it's stressful to me when i'm the only one trying |
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| 00:20.03 | nebula169_ | you don't have to try and not be terrible, if you're not terrible you do fine dps |
| 00:20.21 | nebula169_ | if you don't know what buttons you should be pressing, you do badly |
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| 00:59.38 | TC-work | ~poop |
| 01:00.12 | TC-work | Well that's surprising |
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| 02:11.29 | kd3 | bah. 2 more rares for [Glorious!] |
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| 02:20.16 | A-KO | http://i.imgur.com/cOLXS.jpg |
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| 03:13.31 | kd3 | wtf http://imgur.com/6jyqF |
| 03:14.05 | Mr_Rabies | amazing |
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| 03:18.46 | bluspacecow | fisker i lolzed |
| 03:18.47 | bluspacecow | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6100660557?page=1#11 |
| 03:18.48 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 03:35.20 | kd3 | wow |
| 03:35.27 | kd3 | now seattle's getting gigabit internet? |
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| 03:45.12 | TC-work | Is that where google went next? |
| 03:45.27 | kd3 | nope. the city of seattle's doing that |
| 03:45.37 | kd3 | http://seattle.gov/mayor/SeaFi/gigabit.htm |
| 03:46.01 | TC-work | Nice |
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| 04:07.42 | karl_w_w | what's a good linux distro to run on a really crappy old laptop? |
| 04:09.19 | TC-work | well, it's not so much the distro as the ui, eg, make sure to have xfce or some other super lighteweight thing |
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| 04:17.15 | Neffi | karl_w_w: You might try Elementary |
| 04:17.46 | kd3 | fedora's xfce spin is pretty lightweight |
| 04:18.31 | Neffi | Fedora is nice |
| 04:18.33 | kd3 | http://spins.fedoraproject.org/xfce/ |
| 04:18.48 | Neffi | Elementary is nice if you want something that's not bulky but also looks decent |
| 04:18.51 | Neffi | and works decent |
| 04:19.05 | kd3 | if you want even lighter weight than that, install something like enlightenment or another tiling wm instead of using xfce |
| 04:19.21 | Neffi | plus they seem to really favor lighter bundled applications over the monster programs some distros ship with |
| 04:19.51 | Neffi | Well if you're really RAM constrained, try Alpine Linux w/ dwm |
| 04:20.12 | Neffi | but realistically 512 MB RAM should be enough to run something at least fairly modern |
| 04:20.56 | SuperPortia|mobi | No 64k |
| 04:21.34 | SuperPortia|mobi | Everything should run as a com executable |
| 04:21.42 | kd3 | winces |
| 04:22.21 | SuperPortia|mobi | Not sure if they still do the com executable graphics competitions. |
| 04:24.02 | Neffi | how about just 16K code for Portal? |
| 04:24.04 | Neffi | http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/12/portals-physics-engine-rebuilt-in-25kb-on-a-graphing-calculator/ |
| 04:24.44 | SuperPortia|mobi | Yeah but those calculators are good at calculating |
| 04:24.58 | Neffi | 8-bit 6 MHz CPU |
| 04:25.06 | kd3 | winces at reliving m68k asm |
| 04:25.27 | SuperPortia|mobi | Spark asm for the win |
| 04:26.30 | SuperPortia|mobi | Intel Asm is pretty crazy. |
| 04:26.49 | SuperPortia|mobi | Especially during the Pentium pro days |
| 04:26.57 | kd3 | I've got copies of the last edition of paper books intel shipped for programming documentation before they moved to dvds |
| 04:27.06 | kd3 | thick, thick books. made good monitor stands |
| 04:28.13 | SuperPortia|mobi | I had the visual c++ reference library. It was a bookshelf be itself |
| 04:28.34 | SuperPortia|mobi | By |
| 04:29.11 | Neffi | pfft |
| 04:29.13 | Neffi | code like a man |
| 04:29.14 | Neffi | http://xkcd.com/378/ |
| 04:29.30 | SuperPortia|mobi | Lots and lots of mfc documentation |
| 04:32.17 | SuperPortia|mobi | Butterflies are fine I guess but my boss isn't patient enough for that. So I limit myself to using butterflies for hobby projects |
| 04:35.13 | SuperPortia|mobi | Is there a specific format that images need to to be to be used in game |
| 04:36.44 | kd3 | in wow? |
| 04:37.05 | kd3 | tgas with power-of-2 dimensions |
| 04:38.31 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/API_Texture_SetTexture |
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| 04:42.09 | SuperPortia|mobi | Can textures be rotated before being drawn? |
| 04:47.01 | karl_w_w | hmm i suspect the laptop is too old for i686 |
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| 04:57.22 | kd3 | this would make a neat gift: http://i.imgur.com/ZuyTo.jpg |
| 04:58.12 | karl_w_w | where's the ethanol one? :P |
| 04:58.43 | Kaylin | thats the 'you know, you're really pretty' one. |
| 05:00.25 | SuperPortia|mobi | Anyone know where they sell that? |
| 05:01.13 | karl_w_w | I imagine kd3 does |
| 05:01.20 | kd3 | http://store.madewithmolecules.com/ |
| 05:01.45 | karl_w_w | see! |
| 05:01.53 | karl_w_w | I'm a genius |
| 05:02.05 | karl_w_w | jeeneous! |
| 05:09.42 | pompy1 | what the heck.. they said they removed the authenticator but when i changed m y pass and logged in, it says authenticator detected :\ |
| 05:09.51 | pompy1 | and i cant find a number to call their support :\ |
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| 05:15.03 | Neffi | those prices are kind of ridiculous |
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| 07:34.55 | Shirik | Bored should be an intransitive ver |
| 07:34.57 | Shirik | verb |
| 07:46.55 | Cairenn | He bored the board because he was bored while on board? |
| 07:48.06 | Cairenn | (Just as long as he didn't get gored by the boar'd) |
| 07:59.22 | bluspacecow | https://twitter.com/girayozil/status/279363547056717824 |
| 07:59.25 | bluspacecow | lololololol |
| 08:00.09 | AcidWeb | Email i get today: http://pastebin.com/UD2eiLXj |
| 08:00.19 | AcidWeb | intriguing... |
| 08:01.37 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 08:04.12 | Shirik | "SANTA CLAUS is an anagram for SATAN." |
| 08:04.14 | zenzio | AcidWeb: finally it all falls into place |
| 08:04.15 | Shirik | no it's not? |
| 08:04.43 | AcidWeb | yep |
| 08:04.52 | AcidWeb | Everything is clear now. |
| 08:04.57 | Cairenn | gotta love ya some rambling diatribe? |
| 08:04.57 | Humbedooh | uhm so yeah, yuletide isn't babylonian >_> |
| 08:05.56 | Shirik | sleeps |
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| 08:11.50 | Cairenn | sleeps too |
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| 08:51.40 | Fisker | sry but old bluspacecow |
| 08:51.51 | bluspacecow | oh ok |
| 08:52.38 | sintAcks | anyone know, off the top of their head, the cvar (i think it's a cvar) that controls macro/keybind settings sync with the server... |
| 08:53.26 | Arrowmaster | just got home from seeing the hobbit |
| 08:53.50 | Arrowmaster | i should probably goto bed now |
| 08:55.04 | Fisker | last satchel bluspacecow |
| 08:55.06 | Fisker | and it is done |
| 08:55.24 | bluspacecow | not off hand sintacks |
| 08:55.41 | bluspacecow | but in console mode "help *sync*" should reveal it |
| 08:59.00 | sintAcks | dafuq is console mode |
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| 09:02.32 | bluspacecow | …. |
| 09:02.36 | bluspacecow | wowpedia.org |
| 09:02.40 | bluspacecow | look it up |
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| 09:06.23 | Fisker | i almost has valor points bluspacecow |
| 09:06.25 | Fisker | m a d? |
| 09:06.56 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 09:08.01 | Fisker | so mad |
| 09:09.31 | zenzio | I don't think your valor points are sufficient to ensure mutual destruction Fisker |
| 09:16.01 | Fisker | oh very funny Blizzard |
| 09:16.07 | Fisker | port me to dalaran |
| 09:16.14 | Fisker | 5cm from a part where i can fly |
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| 09:16.25 | Fisker | and don't tell me it's an instanced version wherein you cannot fly |
| 09:16.48 | Fisker | what a rude way of balancing the economy :( |
| 09:21.05 | Kalroth | l2p issue |
| 09:21.12 | karl_w_w | sintAcks: cosole mode is the mode for console |
| 09:24.15 | karl_w_w | i dont understand alt tab these days |
| 09:24.42 | karl_w_w | you alt tab out of wow, then when u press alt tab the next time wow is like 7th on the alt tab list |
| 09:25.10 | stuf | usually it's the last one in alt-tab |
| 09:25.17 | stuf | so you can shift-alt-tab to it |
| 09:31.08 | Maldivia | haha - http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A-BMYMsCAAAmSy3.jpg - now that's good marketing at work :) |
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| 09:33.51 | karl_w_w | it's the second last, stuf :P |
| 09:33.57 | stuf | ohhhh |
| 09:34.03 | karl_w_w | once i have my blood soaked invitation what do i do? |
| 09:34.14 | karl_w_w | i used it and went there, and now nothing? |
| 09:34.27 | stuf | at least at some point directx apps were thrown to the last/second-last slot |
| 09:34.37 | karl_w_w | ah |
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| 11:23.02 | salmaksim | is it possible to get a collection of units near the player, players or enemies? |
| 11:25.13 | zenzio | don't think so |
| 11:26.09 | karl_w_w | so my dad phones me and asks me how to create a new gmail account |
| 11:26.22 | karl_w_w | he cant work it out so i do it for him on the phone |
| 11:26.42 | karl_w_w | i ask him what username/address he wants |
| 11:26.55 | karl_w_w | his requests include telaurence and thecat |
| 11:27.10 | karl_w_w | he is surprised when everything he wants is taken |
| 11:28.34 | salmaksim | lol, not surprising |
| 11:29.24 | karl_w_w | there's no reliable way to get a list of units around you, but there are ways of detecting |
| 11:42.37 | karl_w_w | oh wow |
| 11:42.46 | karl_w_w | you can res at the spirit healer without getting sickness |
| 11:43.28 | karl_w_w | all you have to do is die as a ghost (eg. through fatigue) then before release hit the return to graveyard button |
| 11:43.33 | karl_w_w | then release and res |
| 11:46.10 | Adys | hahah |
| 11:46.13 | Adys | that is brilliant |
| 11:47.51 | Adys | http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/14tqnk/dell_confirms_it_will_exit_the_smartphone/ |
| 11:47.53 | Adys | i.. the.. uh |
| 11:48.15 | Kalroth | Up next: McDonalds comfirms it will exit the smartphone business. |
| 11:48.27 | Humbedooh | nooo |
| 11:48.36 | Humbedooh | I like my iMac :\ |
| 11:48.48 | Humbedooh | except I don't have one :| |
| 11:55.51 | karl_w_w | i love my imac |
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| 11:55.56 | karl_w_w | because I don't have one |
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| 13:55.41 | SuperPortia | Morning |
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| 13:58.42 | karl_w_w | no it isn't |
| 13:58.49 | karl_w_w | don't be silly |
| 14:00.54 | Lopeppeppy | Totally is. You're the silly, silly. |
| 14:01.24 | SuperPortia | It's morning somewhere... oh, wait, it's morning here. |
| 14:01.34 | SuperPortia | :) |
| 14:01.40 | SuperPortia | Saw the Hobbit last night. |
| 14:02.04 | Lopeppeppy | I'm up to see it tomorrow morning. |
| 14:04.42 | karl_w_w | silly people |
| 14:04.52 | karl_w_w | what happened at the end SuperPortia? |
| 14:04.53 | karl_w_w | :P |
| 14:05.54 | Lopeppeppy | Nothing, karl_w_w. It's split into 3 parts. |
| 14:06.00 | Lopeppeppy | Stop trolling for spoilers, you meanie. |
| 14:06.26 | zenzio | ignoring the business aspect, I don't see how you could split the hobbit into three movies; or even two |
| 14:06.34 | zenzio | the book was short, and the story uncomplex |
| 14:06.44 | Lopeppeppy | I can *imagine* 2 movies. Not three. |
| 14:06.45 | SuperPortia | Jackson did it though |
| 14:07.27 | SuperPortia | That last movie the isn't the hobbit. It's the time between the Hobbit and the LotR |
| 14:07.41 | zenzio | oh god |
| 14:10.59 | SuperPortia | The movie was good. |
| 14:11.18 | SuperPortia | And it did end on a nice, natural point. |
| 14:11.18 | Lopeppeppy | What... they grow more southfarthing leaf and have parties? Frodo gets born and grows up? |
| 14:12.00 | SuperPortia | I think most of it is pulled from the Simerillian |
| 14:12.12 | SuperPortia | Not sure of the spelling |
| 14:12.35 | Lopeppeppy | Probably - we get to learn about Aragorn a bit, the rangers, elven pride, that kind of thing. |
| 14:13.13 | Lopeppeppy | Where the other wizards sloped off to, the lazy bastards. |
| 14:24.29 | Sintacks | I hate moving servers |
| 14:24.40 | Sintacks | for one, now i have no alts on the server. |
| 14:25.44 | SuperPortia | Yeah |
| 14:25.52 | SuperPortia | I changed factions and alts. |
| 14:26.00 | SuperPortia | factions and servers* |
| 14:26.14 | SuperPortia | So @ $55 USD per character move, most are staying behind. |
| 14:29.57 | nudave | Huh. Used to be $30 if I remember correctly? |
| 14:30.10 | SuperPortia | For faction and server, it's $55 |
| 14:30.16 | SuperPortia | For just server it's $25 |
| 14:31.07 | nudave | Oh. Faction change is what I was thinking of then - $30. |
| 14:35.16 | SuperPortia | It would have been nice to have them be at a bundled price. |
| 14:35.27 | SuperPortia | Say, $40 for the pair |
| 14:49.52 | Sintacks | they need to add reduced pricing for moving multiple chars at the same time |
| 14:52.28 | SuperPortia | That would be nice too. |
| 14:53.21 | Sintacks | i at least want my druid and mage to come with me :| |
| 14:53.27 | Sintacks | but i couldn't even afford the rogue |
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| 14:58.30 | nudave | Something like $50 for the first change, and $20 for everything thereafter in the same transaction. |
| 15:01.06 | Sintacks | ^ |
| 15:01.09 | Sintacks | but idk about $50 |
| 15:01.12 | Sintacks | keep the current |
| 15:01.19 | Sintacks | unless you are moving server and faction |
| 15:08.32 | Lopeppeppy | I seriously do not want to be writing this documentation for the terminally stupid. Oh, gods. 20 pages and COUNTING. |
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| 15:32.45 | Unkle | Station and all that happy horseshit |
| 15:33.50 | karl_w_w | doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo do |
| 15:34.03 | karl_w_w | which is the short version of |
| 15:34.05 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_22BKDth4PA |
| 15:34.07 | karl_w_w | obviously |
| 15:34.31 | Lopeppeppy | Um. Morning Unkle. Sorta. Ish. |
| 15:34.54 | karl_w_w | mornternevenight |
| 15:35.03 | Unkle | It's only 7:30 for me, here in beautiful wine country. |
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| 15:38.19 | Lopeppeppy | And you're grumpity with the dawn's early light and leftover sick. |
| 15:39.57 | Unkle | Yeah, something like that. |
| 15:40.59 | Lopeppeppy | Well, I like you anyway. So there. |
| 15:41.53 | Unkle | Well, I guess I'll just have to live with that. :) |
| 15:42.11 | Lopeppeppy | Yup, suck it up princess. |
| 15:42.21 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:42.35 | Thunder_Child | I could do without it currently being 45 deg., that's a bit cold, even for me |
| 15:42.52 | Unkle | It's 37 here. |
| 15:43.10 | Thunder_Child | But my heat is not on |
| 15:45.08 | Unkle | That would be uncomfortable. |
| 15:45.40 | Unkle | Last night, after it got cold, one of the cats wanted to go out. I let him out. In 5 minutes, he wanted back in. |
| 15:48.48 | Lopeppeppy | Well, yes. That's what cats are for. |
| 15:49.08 | Lopeppeppy | Little bastards always want to be on the opposite side of the door that they are currently on. |
| 15:52.07 | Humbedooh | pfft, 20 degrees here and I'm doing fine! |
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| 15:58.55 | Semlar | it's 60 in here |
| 15:59.08 | Semlar | i had to put a long sleeve shirt on |
| 16:02.21 | Lopeppeppy | We've got about 20 degrees. I'm still wearing sandals to work - no snow yet. |
| 16:02.50 | Thunder_Child | but the rest of you is bundled i am sure |
| 16:03.59 | Semlar | bundled in sandals |
| 16:04.20 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy |
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| 16:16.08 | Shirik | "we have 20 degrees"? |
| 16:17.00 | Shirik | semi-related: http://www.weather.com/news/extreme-weather-apocalypse-20121214 |
| 16:17.37 | Cairenn | Morning |
| 16:17.49 | |Jelly| | pounce-hugs Cairenn. |
| 16:17.53 | Cairenn | :) |
| 16:19.21 | Shirik | morning |
| 16:20.38 | Unkle | Dear me; Y U NO have spare SATA cables? |
| 16:21.26 | Semlar | ebay has spare sata cables |
| 16:22.09 | Unkle | ebay/amazon/etc = tomorrow or later. I need one today. Which means a field trip. |
| 16:22.36 | nevcairiel | i have like a whole box of those cables |
| 16:23.15 | Shirik | ^ |
| 16:23.31 | Unkle | Haha! I found one. |
| 16:23.32 | nevcairiel | now if you wanted an IDE cable, i would probably have to dig really deep :p |
| 16:23.41 | Shirik | I have one of those too |
| 16:23.43 | Shirik | and a floppy cable! |
| 16:23.54 | Adys_ | Arrowmaster: http://i.imgur.com/ytYAF.jpg |
| 16:24.05 | Shirik | yes |
| 16:24.09 | nevcairiel | now thats just mean Adys |
| 16:24.11 | Shirik | I approve of this setting |
| 16:24.14 | Adys | Unkle: I have about 40 sata cables |
| 16:24.20 | Adys | you want one you come get it |
| 16:24.51 | Unkle | Sure, Adys. Let me book a flight. BRB |
| 16:24.57 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, I have 20 degrees. I think this is from the French lessons. |
| 16:26.09 | Shirik | the thing about "having" degrees |
| 16:26.12 | Shirik | is like |
| 16:26.20 | Shirik | 0 degrees doesn't mean you don't have any |
| 16:27.02 | Shirik | this was actually a serious problem in my original implementation of a units library, which only handled mulitplication for conversion |
| 16:27.18 | Shirik | when I got to temperature I was like "wait a second, that doesn't work at all, because 0 is not 0!" |
| 16:27.19 | Fisker | i give 0 degrees of a fuck Shirik |
| 16:27.21 | Fisker | :) |
| 16:27.40 | Shirik | does perkele mean fuck? |
| 16:27.58 | Fisker | idk |
| 16:28.08 | Fisker | think it means devil or something? |
| 16:28.17 | Shirik | what |
| 16:28.27 | Unkle | Oh joy. Pulling the SSD/boot drive and still can't get this laptop to POST. This means dead mobo. |
| 16:30.43 | Adys | Shirik: and how did you solve it? |
| 16:31.23 | nevcairiel | 0K means you have no degrees! |
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| 16:44.59 | karl_w_w | not necessarily Unkle |
| 16:45.15 | karl_w_w | some bioses won't post if there's a ram problem |
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| 17:05.25 | Fisker | generally all won't karl_w_w |
| 17:05.27 | Fisker | same with cpu |
| 17:05.30 | Fisker | same with no power |
| 17:05.31 | Fisker | :3 |
| 17:08.32 | Unkle | karl_w_w: This particular model (Dell Studio XPS) apparently has a great number of mobo failures. This one is like... 4 years+ old so I'm really surprised it's taken this long to fail. |
| 17:09.22 | Unkle | I've got the drives pulled out now, going to plug them into my desktop and recover the data. |
| 17:09.31 | Semlar | any bulging capacitors? |
| 17:09.52 | Semlar | oh well i figure you probably haven't taken it apart |
| 17:10.16 | Semlar | laptops are a pain in the ass to disassemble |
| 17:10.48 | Unkle | No, nothing obviously bulging or cooked. And it's a HUGE pain. I've got a baggie full of screws, and it's mostly disassembled now. |
| 17:11.32 | Unkle | Warranty expired in 2010, so ... I'm pretty much on my own. Which is why I didn't care too much about pulling it apart and violating the warranty. :) |
| 17:12.23 | Unkle | Ordering a new laptop to replace it anyway. |
| 17:12.32 | Thunder_Child | And you are sure the screen works etc. |
| 17:12.35 | Semlar | i've never seen a motherboard fail before |
| 17:12.46 | Semlar | i've seen it short circuit on the case or something |
| 17:13.29 | Semlar | that is a very difficult thing to diagnose |
| 17:13.33 | Unkle | the symptom is that you turn the power on, the soft buttons light up, it spins the optical drive briefly and shuts down. Whole thing takes ... 2 seconds. |
| 17:13.44 | Unkle | Maybe less. |
| 17:13.58 | Semlar | oh well the motherboard is at least partially functioning |
| 17:14.08 | Thunder_Child | take out the battery and try it on just the cord |
| 17:14.20 | Semlar | a dead motherboard usually means dead dead |
| 17:14.21 | Unkle | It wasn't the SSD, 'cause it would still do the same thing without the SSD. Same for battery. |
| 17:15.22 | Semlar | have you tried putting a bootable cd in there and seeing what it did |
| 17:15.33 | Thunder_Child | Still feels like a power thing and not a mobo thing |
| 17:15.34 | Semlar | like a windows disc |
| 17:15.46 | Unkle | It might be the optical drive (there's a disc in it) but now that I've got it all apart... I'll just put the drives in my desktop, eject the optical media, back up the SSD and put all the data on the new laptop when it arrives. |
| 17:16.03 | Semlar | ah |
| 17:16.54 | Thunder_Child | In my experiance when a mobo dies power still flows, it simply does fuck all |
| 17:17.03 | Semlar | it's not beeping or anything |
| 17:17.08 | Thunder_Child | though i have not had it happen on a laptop |
| 17:17.10 | Unkle | No beeps. |
| 17:17.18 | Unkle | Just ON then OFF right away |
| 17:18.30 | Arrowmaster | Unkle: remember to try pulling the cmos battery and resetting it |
| 17:20.02 | Arrowmaster | my desktop was turning on but not doing anything, and clearing the cmos fixed it, but then it broke a while later again and now it does the on then off |
| 17:20.16 | Arrowmaster | im about to just replace the mobo, cpu, and ram |
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| 17:21.09 | karl_w_w | does tides of war tell you how jaina got to be leader of the kirin tor? |
| 17:21.38 | Unkle | Well, considering that a comparable laptop is sub-$500 it makes sense to replace. |
| 17:22.55 | Lopeppeppy | Sometimes it's better to nuke it from orbit. |
| 17:28.16 | SuperPortia | Is there a way to get profession requirements for a spell? |
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| 17:32.54 | pompy1 | "Our representatives are available seven days a week, between 8:00AM and 8:00PM Pacific Time. " ... I call at its like "OH we are closed.. office hours are 10ampacific --" :\ |
| 17:33.34 | clever | karl_w_w: yes |
| 17:34.13 | foxlit | gr, the order of Jogu's gossip options seems to vary based on what day it is |
| 17:35.27 | Unkle | because he does the crop prediction , though rep has something to do with it too since he offers various quests at different rep levels. |
| 17:36.59 | nevcairiel | job of a npc is a boring one, at least let them have their re-ordering of their gossip |
| 17:37.18 | foxlit | Problem is, I want to identify a particular option. |
| 17:37.25 | foxlit | And all you get is localized text. |
| 17:37.38 | nevcairiel | you know what that means |
| 17:37.48 | nevcairiel | screw foreigners! :D |
| 17:38.09 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. Get in line. |
| 17:38.24 | clever | just tell them to learn english :P |
| 17:38.50 | foxlit | Unkle: quests and gossip are somewhat separate. It would've also been convinient if they put all the crop prediction options on the same side of the other ones :) |
| 17:39.23 | SuperPortia | Creating a table with explicit properties set to nil initially doesn't actually allocate space for those properties right? E.g. { A = 1, B = nil, C = "Z" } |
| 17:39.53 | Unkle | I'm trying to parse "same side of the other ones." Not working out too well. |
| 17:40.07 | karl_w_w | thanks clever |
| 17:40.14 | foxlit | Revengeance! |
| 17:40.18 | karl_w_w | you're much more useful than Fisker |
| 17:40.56 | Semlar | i think the initial table will have the entry for the nil value but set to be garbage collected |
| 17:41.29 | foxlit | Unkle: most days, the crop prediction seems to be the second gossip option (below "Do you like gifts?"). Today it's the first. Curse you, striped melons! |
| 17:41.58 | Unkle | Ah, gotcha. |
| 17:43.00 | Unkle | Ok, shutting down to install the laptop's drives in this box briefly. |
| 17:44.54 | Lopeppeppy | hot-swaps Unkle's cables while he's not looking. |
| 17:45.35 | karl_w_w | kinky |
| 17:50.17 | Lopeppeppy | Totally. |
| 17:52.34 | nudave | does anyone know where actionbar and settings like the clock are kept? as i lost them and my backup which was the wtf folder didnt contain them |
| 17:57.49 | karl_w_w | all settings are saved either in wtf or on the server |
| 18:04.28 | pompy1 | http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/14/shooting-reported-at-connecticut-elementary-school/?hpt=hp_t1 HORRIBLE |
| 18:04.29 | pompy1 | >< |
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| 18:19.45 | Arrowmaster | http://i.imgur.com/8v2vc.jpg somebody paid $0 for the new CAH holiday expansion |
| 18:20.16 | Lopeppeppy | Nice! |
| 18:20.56 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 18:22.57 | TC-work | heh |
| 18:23.31 | TC-work | I was going to do more than 5, but I was a retard and didn't realize i needed to do it at the begning |
| 18:23.41 | TC-work | beginning* |
| 18:25.25 | karl_w_w | bastard |
| 18:25.32 | TC-work | quite |
| 18:25.35 | karl_w_w | found a rare and he's evade bugged |
| 18:25.48 | karl_w_w | and it's all your fault |
| 18:26.13 | TC-work | That just makes me feel all warm and tingly inside. |
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| 18:39.03 | salmaksim | im trying to set the starting and buyout price on the AH with one of my scripts. can anyone point me in the right direction? |
| 18:39.45 | pompy1 | lol what http://www.telepresenceoptions.com/2012/12/samsung_tvs_can_be_hacked_to_s/ |
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| 18:40.21 | End_ | if you're trying to work with the default ui (meaning setting a recommendation automatically) you'll want to find the name of the controls and then use MoneyInputFrame_SetCopper() on it |
| 18:41.11 | End_ | if you're trying to do it outside of the normal ui, the bid/bo are sent to the StartAuction api (I think it is called) |
| 18:43.07 | salmaksim | End_: thank you ;] |
| 18:43.30 | End_ | Taking a look at the FrameXML would probably help |
| 18:43.33 | End_ | ~framexml |
| 18:43.33 | purl | methinks framexml is Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console or open 'World of Warcraft.app' --args -console after game loads press ~ and enter commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
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| 18:49.19 | kd3 | ugh, what the hell |
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| 19:00.44 | pompy1 | kd3: always lacks context! (but im sure i know what he's referring to) |
| 19:01.00 | Ressy | nods |
| 19:01.15 | kd3 | there's just no words |
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| 19:01.19 | pompy1 | yup |
| 19:03.59 | karl_w_w | what's he talking about, pompy1? :P |
| 19:04.59 | pompy1 | http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/14/shooting-reported-at-connecticut-elementary-school/?hpt=hp_t1 |
| 19:05.56 | karl_w_w | so old news |
| 19:06.46 | pompy1 | :O.. |
| 19:08.20 | Lopeppeppy | I neeed this. http://www.etsy.com/listing/118032240/inari-fox-leather-mask-original-hand |
| 19:08.49 | Unkle | ... kistune. |
| 19:09.03 | Lopeppeppy | Mmmm. |
| 19:10.20 | karl_w_w | http://www.regretsy.com/ |
| 19:10.57 | karl_w_w | that vomit one is not nice at all :P |
| 19:13.57 | karl_w_w | http://www.regretsy.com/2012/12/07/pornaments-nsfw-2/ hahah |
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| 19:25.12 | Starlings | Anyone with a wow eu here tonight? :) |
| 19:27.42 | Dagmar | Epic media shitstorm incoming. |
| 19:27.56 | Dagmar | Connecticut elementary school shooter this morning. |
| 19:28.04 | Dagmar | Should be on pretty much every website by now |
| 19:28.15 | Dagmar | WTF is wrong with people |
| 19:29.01 | kd3 | if we knew that these things wouldn't happen |
| 19:29.32 | Dagmar | Fucking let teachers go armed already |
| 19:30.02 | Humbedooh | yes, let's have more guns :\ |
| 19:30.21 | TC-work | Actually yes |
| 19:30.31 | Dagmar | When was the last time you heard about a renegade shooter in a place where there were a lot of guns? |
| 19:30.48 | Dagmar | More guns actually *is* the answer |
| 19:30.50 | Humbedooh | about three months ago |
| 19:30.53 | TC-work | Gun restriction only hurts people that follow the law |
| 19:31.04 | Dagmar | Humbledooh: Which was where? |
| 19:31.24 | Humbedooh | Dagmar: well that was at an arsenal, so...lots of guns ;) |
| 19:31.36 | TC-work | And suiciders don't count. |
| 19:31.58 | Dagmar | If it's the incident I'm thinking of, that was a *fire* |
| 19:32.06 | TC-work | But you are less likely to find a mugging or murder etc., when every fucker around you is packing |
| 19:32.34 | foxlit | oh bs |
| 19:32.38 | Dagmar | A well-armed society is a polite society. |
| 19:32.41 | foxlit | You're more likely to shoot them first and mug them later. |
| 19:32.55 | foxlit | preferably in a dark alley or something. |
| 19:32.58 | karl_w_w | do people really believe that? |
| 19:33.03 | Humbedooh | I don't have any empirical data to back up either claim |
| 19:33.08 | Dagmar | Stats back it up |
| 19:33.16 | Humbedooh | which stats? |
| 19:33.18 | karl_w_w | don't let evidence get in the way of a good story ey |
| 19:33.19 | Humbedooh | gimme data |
| 19:33.27 | Dagmar | Interwebs are right over there. |
| 19:33.29 | Ressy | wow. |
| 19:33.46 | karl_w_w | I think you'll find countries without guns in every other house also don't have kids shooting each other |
| 19:33.51 | SuperPortia | Guns don't prevent shootings in all cases. |
| 19:34.09 | SuperPortia | Really it just prevents shootings for people not used to being threatened with guns. |
| 19:34.20 | Humbedooh | Dagmar: it's not my job to back up your claim |
| 19:35.07 | Dagmar | There's a nice video of an oldster pulling out his handgun and popping off shots of a couple of kids in an internet cafe who otherwise could have just killed everyone there. Less than a two years ago, even. |
| 19:35.17 | karl_w_w | so unless you're suggesting americans are just naturally violent sociopaths and the only way to stop them is with the threat of ballistic retaliation, I think you'll find your argument holds little water |
| 19:35.38 | Dagmar | <-- naturally violent sociopath. |
| 19:35.51 | Dagmar | ...and I'm much less reckless than many. |
| 19:36.44 | foxlit | from the same drawer: 90% of the population believe they drive better than 50% of the population |
| 19:37.15 | Humbedooh | also, I think you'll find that most well armed societies are not very polite |
| 19:37.29 | Ressy | I like these stats better: http://fleshisgrass.wordpress.com/2012/07/24/us-and-uk-murder-rate-and-weapon-updated/ |
| 19:38.15 | Ressy | US vs UK (where guns are illegal) |
| 19:38.21 | Dagmar | Compare the poverty levels. |
| 19:39.11 | Dagmar | It's freaking laughable to think you might get rid of all the guns in the US, but not so unreasonable to just let right-minded people get a CCP. |
| 19:39.51 | SuperPortia | We moved from a vigilante to a justice based society a long time ago. |
| 19:40.07 | TC-work | Yes, and that's working out so well... |
| 19:40.07 | Dagmar | Except that self-defense is not vigilantism. |
| 19:40.49 | Dagmar | Self-preservation is a positive-population drive. |
| 19:40.55 | SuperPortia | The problem is it isn't always self-defense. |
| 19:40.56 | karl_w_w | "In order to argue that we need to get legal guns out of killers, dont we have to know how many of these murders were committed by persons legally allowed to own them? I wonder what the rate of murder by firearm by legal gun owners is. |
| 19:41.05 | karl_w_w | ^americans just dont get it |
| 19:41.28 | Dagmar | Mainly because idiots want to blame guns.\ |
| 19:41.35 | Dagmar | Guns don't kill people. Assholes kill people. |
| 19:41.39 | Humbedooh | with guns |
| 19:41.46 | karl_w_w | there will always be assholes |
| 19:41.50 | TC-work | and guns |
| 19:41.57 | karl_w_w | howsabout we dont put a gun within 50 meters of them all |
| 19:41.59 | Gnarfoz | could you join ##politics and stfu about guns |
| 19:42.01 | Ressy | The US isn't the only place with Assholes tho. |
| 19:42.17 | TC-work | This isn't politics Gnarfoz |
| 19:42.35 | Humbedooh | it's philosophy ;) |
| 19:43.03 | SuperPortia | Until you bring stats into it, it's just supposition. |
| 19:43.07 | Gnarfoz | ... |
| 19:43.54 | SuperPortia | Good policy can only consistently come from accurate knowledge. |
| 19:43.55 | TC-work | Except neither side has stats it would seem |
| 19:44.49 | SuperPortia | At my finger tips. No, but I do have them. And when I get them again, I'll present them. But I don't see the point in arguing, "well it makes sense to me that..." |
| 19:45.01 | Ressy | Good stats tend to get warped to fit whatever the hell the politician wants. |
| 19:45.15 | Gnarfoz | but Ressy, this isn't politics! |
| 19:45.22 | Gnarfoz | m( |
| 19:45.42 | TC-work | Nor are we politicians |
| 19:45.52 | SuperPortia | That's why I got this whole minor in mathematics and statistics so I could tell more often when people were abusing statistics. |
| 19:45.52 | Torhal|work | nominates Gnarfoz for znf duty. |
| 19:45.57 | pompy1 | lol |
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| 19:46.56 | pompy1 | what kinda tournament is this! ;p http://news.softpedia.com/news/Romania-Wins-Inaugural-Smart-TV-Angry-Birds-Finals-314807.shtml |
| 19:51.55 | karl_w_w | clearly the kind of tournament that attracts romanians |
| 19:52.27 | pompy1 | i bet one of them pictured is znf |
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| 20:06.13 | znf | oh yay, my country is good at a shitty game |
| 20:07.05 | cbreak | how long do those 100% reputation gain after revered items last? |
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| 20:07.32 | Torhal|work | As far as I know, you buy one and activate it and you're good to go. |
| 20:07.33 | pompy1 | on use? |
| 20:07.38 | pompy1 | yeah |
| 20:07.46 | cbreak | for ever? Neat. |
| 20:08.06 | SuperPortia | Forever and ever on all characters on that server (maybe not both factions too, but probably) |
| 20:15.19 | bleeter | haha oh my sides https://security-tracker.debian.org/ |
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| 20:16.40 | kd3 | the POTUS is on |
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| 20:16.59 | TC-work | The kickstarter mini? |
| 20:29.49 | Fisker | potus? |
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| 20:32.40 | Humbedooh | phisker of the united states |
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| 20:56.27 | Adys | holy shit google |
| 20:56.30 | Adys | https://encrypted.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&tbo=d&q=java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError%3A+com%2Falk%2Fexecutors%2FCustomCommandExecutor%24InvalidArgumentException&oq=java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError%3A+com%2Falk%2Fexecutors%2FCustomCommandExecutor%24InvalidArgumentException |
| 20:56.45 | Adys | a friend has an issue with a minecraft plugin |
| 20:56.56 | Adys | i tell him to put the log on pastebin and send me the link |
| 20:57.01 | Adys | i google the first line of the error |
| 20:57.11 | Adys | the pastebin is the only result on google. Result "21 seconds ago" |
| 20:57.17 | kd3 | wow |
| 20:58.22 | AcidWeb | Google Skynet |
| 20:58.59 | foxlit | "The Energy Vortex is powering down! Get off the platform!" |
| 21:02.00 | foxlit | look at that, they fixed the raid warning to actually be meaningful |
| 21:03.49 | Mr_Rabies | i think that's just LFR, right? :o |
| 21:04.14 | Mr_Rabies | most of the LFR warnings actually tell you what to do, especially if you ignore them once |
| 21:04.22 | Mr_Rabies | whereas normal and above generally just say what's happening |
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| 21:05.41 | foxlit | That is LFR. Dunno what'd going on on Normal |
| 21:06.23 | foxlit | but way back when the world was young, the LFR warning didn't have that last clause. |
| 21:07.51 | Gnarfoz | Mr_Rabies: for this one though, there can only be one warning. if you ignore it, you're dead. :D |
| 21:11.37 | Unkle | I can't wait for a boss emote that just says "get out of the fire you fucking noob" |
| 21:12.16 | kd3 | grr |
| 21:12.33 | kd3 | damn it blizz. don't use achievement titles that are mechanically impossible on the wiki |
| 21:12.42 | Fisker | :) |
| 21:12.48 | Fisker | what title is that kd3 ? |
| 21:12.50 | Fisker | oh |
| 21:12.55 | Fisker | you mean the brawler's guild one? |
| 21:12.59 | kd3 | you are not your $#*% legplatse |
| 21:13.03 | Fisker | yeah |
| 21:13.12 | Fisker | soothes kd3 |
| 21:16.12 | foxlit | heh, 5 letters. |
| 21:16.17 | Mr_Rabies | huh, i guess that's just bringing it up to spec, or maybe you fell in the hole so now it warns you foxlit :p |
| 21:16.41 | foxlit | It's kind of pointless to warn you after the fact |
| 21:31.18 | foxlit | heh, and they reduced nullification barrier cooldown |
| 21:35.24 | Mr_Rabies | much like your mother (???) |
| 21:36.20 | Gnarfoz | reduced even further?! |
| 21:36.31 | Gnarfoz | it was usable every time you could've possibly wanted to use it even before |
| 21:36.58 | foxlit | I haven't done it for ages, though :. |
| 21:37.14 | foxlit | It's now 25 seconds, which is enough to use it on every major AoE |
| 21:38.06 | foxlit | I vaguely recall not being able to do that in the past |
| 21:38.20 | Gnarfoz | I can't recall it being otherwise in LFR |
| 21:38.51 | Gnarfoz | (same for the spellsteal thing, just spam away!) |
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| 22:50.45 | bleeter | 'an herb' orly blizz? |
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| 22:55.02 | kd3 | that's right. 'a herb' is wrong because the h is silent in us english, and you don't have 'a' with a vowel-sound-leading word |
| 22:55.03 | kd3 | >.> |
| 22:55.07 | foxlit | an 'erb |
| 22:56.35 | Unkle | it always sounds strange to me to hear non-English(US) speakers pronounce the 'h' in herb. |
| 22:56.41 | g0urra | kd3: in british english the h is not silent |
| 22:59.04 | g0urra | wait nvm I missed the 'us' |
| 23:01.45 | Fisker | hugs kd3 |
| 23:02.06 | TC-work | I would love to know who decided that it was important to drop the 'h' so i can go defile their grave. |
| 23:02.19 | VIad | erb |
| 23:02.23 | Fisker | i defiled your mom |
| 23:02.30 | TC-work | Sounds about right |
| 23:03.21 | Unkle | Probably Noah Webster. |
| 23:03.37 | Unkle | (note, I'm just blaming him, I don't *know*) |
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| 23:12.28 | foxlit | I'm amazed at the speed with which Oracles can make worker lines just vanish. |
| 23:19.10 | Gnarfoz | Oracle & speed in the same sentence? |
| 23:21.17 | TC-work | I'm wondering if GODUS is actually going to get funded |
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| 23:27.51 | Fisker | i hope it isn't |
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| 23:39.54 | VIad | :) |
| 23:43.39 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: and oracles are speedy, too! I wonder if phoenixes catch them. |
| 23:46.40 | VIad | hello foxlit |
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| 23:49.47 | foxlit | hello. |
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| 23:53.06 | Cairenn|afk | Okay, when the Onion says what everyone is thinking - something is seriously fucked up |
| 23:55.29 | iShirik | ? |
| 23:55.40 | Cairenn|afk | "Fuck everything." |
| 23:56.55 | Ackis | holy fuck a school shooting at an elementary school? |
| 23:58.33 | kd3 | http://www.theonion.com/articles/fuck-everything-nation-reports,30743/ |
| 23:58.33 | Fisker | hey iShirik |
| 23:58.41 | kd3 | yeah, that's a pretty fucked up article |
| 23:59.15 | foxlit | So I made the mistake of going to CNN to read something about it |
| 23:59.21 | foxlit | It's pretty much the same tone |
