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| 00:04.33 | Sintacks | Primer, what |
| 00:04.58 | Vlad| | I think he got raped with colossus smash no armor nuke ;D |
| 00:06.58 | Primer | heh, logged onto forums...no characters were found |
| 00:09.03 | kd3 | gah. shoes where my insoles keep sliding up my heel are driving me nuts |
| 00:09.08 | kd3 | grrs |
| 00:09.18 | Vlad| | purl, who is kd3 |
| 00:09.18 | purl | Vlad|: what are you talking about? |
| 00:09.27 | kd3 | I am kd3 |
| 00:09.27 | Vlad| | kd3 doesn't exist |
| 00:09.45 | Vlad| | purl, say !lua print('!lua print(":D")') |
| 00:09.45 | purl | !lua print('!lua print(":D")') |
| 00:09.46 | batbot | purl: !lua print(":D") |
| 00:09.48 | TC-work | Get better insoles? |
| 00:09.50 | Vlad| | lol |
| 00:10.00 | Vlad| | kd3 raged |
| 00:10.23 | TC-work | or he was rebooting into alt. OS |
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| 00:12.08 | Vlad| | I got my ubuntu in virtualbox :D |
| 00:17.54 | Vlad| | good night |
| 00:29.08 | bleeter | yeah I'd quit after mentioning ubuntu, too |
| 00:29.20 | bleeter | though to be honest, thanks to valve, at least ubuntu has a point now |
| 00:29.28 | bleeter | testing platform for proper *nix's |
| 00:35.55 | bleeter | hey, are blizz's forums doing that crazy 'you can't see the last post on this thread until you post to this thread' trick? 'coz I seriously love that bug :) |
| 00:43.10 | bleeter | anyone else noticed how weird it looks when NPCs on mounts don't notice that the mount has been sapped? |
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| 00:47.22 | bleeter | 'oh hey my mount has just stopped working and looks like it's been sapped I'll just sit on it for a while' |
| 00:47.46 | Mr_Rabies | i've yet to find another distro that fills the niche that ubuntu does, though |
| 00:48.07 | Mr_Rabies | which is an OS that i could install and people other than myself could use |
| 00:50.33 | Mr_Rabies | i'm actually considering installing ubuntu on my sister's pc since she, my nephew, or my jerk brother-in-law keep getting it infected |
| 00:52.49 | Primer | It won't last |
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| 00:53.13 | Primer | They'll ask "Why can't I run fooBarWhizBang?" |
| 00:53.28 | Primer | and you'll try to get it working in wine, and it won't work |
| 00:54.08 | Primer | I tried to get my wife to use Linux (Fedora at the time) and she used it until she needed fooBarWhizBang |
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| 01:01.00 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 01:01.04 | Mr_Rabies | i don't know the other option though |
| 01:01.23 | Mr_Rabies | because i don't have time to clean her computer every 2 weeks |
| 01:01.28 | Mr_Rabies | any other option* |
| 01:01.31 | Primer | training |
| 01:01.39 | Mr_Rabies | and she can't afford decent antivirus software |
| 01:01.40 | Primer | I've trained my wife and kids |
| 01:01.52 | Primer | each has their own computer, none have AV |
| 01:01.56 | Primer | all run windog |
| 01:02.02 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies: some friends of mine swear that (iirc) Mint > Ubuntu for noobs but I've not tried |
| 01:02.08 | Mr_Rabies | they probably have viruses then, if they're running AV free |
| 01:02.12 | Primer | none have ever been compromised |
| 01:02.16 | Primer | nope |
| 01:02.17 | Mr_Rabies | that you know of |
| 01:02.18 | Primer | they do not |
| 01:02.19 | bleeter | there was another nub distro kicking around, can't recall it's name, got more praise than ubuntu |
| 01:02.22 | Primer | they do not |
| 01:02.26 | Mr_Rabies | how can you be sure? |
| 01:02.50 | Mr_Rabies | most malware nowadays is entirely invisible unless it's ransomware |
| 01:02.50 | Primer | Because for shits and giggles I've run a scan on them a while back |
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| 01:03.00 | bleeter | if it's Windows or OSX, it's comprimised out of the box.. doh |
| 01:03.15 | Primer | How so? |
| 01:03.31 | Mr_Rabies | a lot of malware likes to run for a few hours and then remove itself, as well |
| 01:03.57 | Mr_Rabies | so they could have been comprimised at some point in the past, long enough to get passwords and whatnot |
| 01:03.58 | bleeter | OSX even moreso |
| 01:04.11 | Primer | well, my son has his own wow account, and my 10 year old daughter plays on mine...we've never been compromised |
| 01:04.12 | bleeter | APple are like 5-10 years behind MS on shippign fixes etc. quickly |
| 01:04.19 | Primer | I don't have authenticator either |
| 01:04.27 | Mr_Rabies | you're just asking for it |
| 01:04.28 | Mr_Rabies | D: |
| 01:04.33 | Mr_Rabies | it's just a matter of time |
| 01:04.36 | Primer | bleeter: so you mean "compromisable" |
| 01:04.39 | Primer | not compromised |
| 01:04.44 | Primer | except it's not |
| 01:04.51 | Primer | it's been years, and nothing's every happened |
| 01:04.55 | bleeter | no, actually I mean both. |
| 01:05.00 | Primer | like I said, I've trained them well |
| 01:05.22 | Mr_Rabies | training means nothing unless you don't install java, flash, shockwave, adobe reader, etc |
| 01:05.22 | Primer | bleeter: compromised would mean they've already been intruded upon |
| 01:05.36 | Primer | Mr_Rabies: you're starting to catch on :) |
| 01:06.07 | Mr_Rabies | the internet is nigh unusable without flash, even now |
| 01:06.11 | Primer | wrong |
| 01:06.12 | bleeter | are MS no longer shipping with flash etc.? |
| 01:06.14 | Mr_Rabies | java you can get away with to an extent |
| 01:06.25 | bleeter | or did they ever |
| 01:06.27 | Mr_Rabies | don't think MS has shipped with flash ever |
| 01:06.28 | Primer | All you need flash for is Youtube |
| 01:06.33 | Primer | and for that I use Flashblock |
| 01:06.35 | bleeter | christ, so many years.. so many OSs... so few braincells |
| 01:06.40 | Primer | which has youtube whitelisted |
| 01:07.25 | Mr_Rabies | you can't say "i've trained them, they're immune to viruses" and then say "i only let them run their browsers crippled" |
| 01:08.05 | Primer | Of course I can |
| 01:08.16 | Primer | I've trained them to not open email attachments, for example |
| 01:08.30 | Primer | or to follow links from emails claiming they need to login to fix something |
| 01:08.54 | Primer | I've trained them to not install shit off the internet |
| 01:08.56 | bleeter | I do love how trained people always obey their training explicitly |
| 01:09.08 | Primer | To download executables and run them |
| 01:09.49 | Primer | While, at the same time, putting measures into place to help, such as flashblock |
| 01:09.56 | Mr_Rabies | training helps |
| 01:10.20 | Mr_Rabies | but the fact is, you need software to prevent infection, and you've also crippled their browsing experience |
| 01:10.29 | Primer | I find that flashblock is more useful as a mitigator of annoying ads than anything else |
| 01:10.39 | Mr_Rabies | why not just get a decent antivirus as well |
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| 01:10.43 | Primer | You say cripple, I say enhance |
| 01:10.50 | Primer | because AVs are stupid |
| 01:10.52 | Mr_Rabies | even MSE |
| 01:11.07 | Mr_Rabies | they're 100% necessary for windows today |
| 01:11.10 | Primer | negative |
| 01:11.21 | Primer | as proven by what I've been writing up until now |
| 01:11.23 | Mr_Rabies | if the computer ever opens a web browser |
| 01:11.33 | TC-work | nothing says awesome like a sql server that maxes out connections as soon as it starts.... |
| 01:11.46 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, i'm sure the abstinence and the pull-out method worked for a lot of people, but it's far from perfect |
| 01:11.48 | Primer | sounds like mysql |
| 01:11.57 | Mr_Rabies | "the abstinence" lol |
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| 01:12.10 | TC-work | correct Primer |
| 01:12.38 | Guest31974 | Hello |
| 01:12.47 | Primer | Mr_Rabies: abstinence most definitely works |
| 01:12.49 | SuperPortia | It's SuperPortia! |
| 01:12.57 | SuperPortia | Ok, I have some tools now. |
| 01:12.58 | TC-work | which is not that much of a big deal except everything seems to grind to a halt with sql down |
| 01:13.02 | Mr_Rabies | i'm sure it does, but it's not really a solution to the problem |
| 01:13.15 | Primer | heh, that's not what you wrote :) |
| 01:13.38 | Mr_Rabies | my dad hasn't gotten a virus in 65 years |
| 01:13.40 | SuperPortia | I know you can create a frame using CreateFrame, but there doesn't seem to be a way to get a frame; i.e GetFrame. |
| 01:13.42 | Mr_Rabies | mostly because he's never used a computer |
| 01:13.50 | Mr_Rabies | well, a computer virus, ofc |
| 01:13.51 | SuperPortia | I know you can create a frame using CreateFrame, but there doesn't seem to be a way to get a frame; i.e GetFrame. |
| 01:14.06 | Mr_Rabies | if we all adopted his strategy we'd be good to go |
| 01:15.03 | Mr_Rabies | anyway i'm gonna stop arguing since there's no way i'm going to change your opinion until the inevitable happens so someone can help portia here without having to deal with an internet argument |
| 01:16.49 | SuperPortia | I'm trying to modify an existing window and I was wondering how to do that. |
| 01:18.33 | Primer | Why do you think it's inevitable? |
| 01:18.41 | Primer | I've literaly never run an AV |
| 01:18.42 | Primer | ever |
| 01:18.47 | Primer | and have never been compromised |
| 01:20.59 | SuperPortia | I'm assuming LibStub isn't a generic WoW thing, but is a library. |
| 01:21.10 | Semlar | what do you mean by "get a frame" |
| 01:21.33 | SuperPortia | Well I'm not entirely sure where to start modifying the existing frame. |
| 01:21.47 | Semlar | first, frames are just tables |
| 01:21.49 | SuperPortia | Do I write my own and replace the current one somehow? |
| 01:22.01 | Semlar | you access it through its name |
| 01:22.10 | Semlar | which is a global variable |
| 01:22.12 | SuperPortia | For the existing frames? |
| 01:22.20 | SuperPortia | Ok, how do I tell what the original name is? |
| 01:22.25 | SuperPortia | In this case it's the pet journal. |
| 01:22.30 | Semlar | type /framestack and hover over it |
| 01:22.44 | Semlar | blizzard frames are generally named |
| 01:22.58 | Semlar | it's possible to access an unnamed frame but it's more complicated |
| 01:23.11 | SuperPortia | MountJournal |
| 01:23.44 | foxlit | http://vimcolorschemetest.googlecode.com/svn/html/index-c.html |
| 01:24.09 | SuperPortia | And the stack shows PetJournalParent/table:XXXX/MountJournal/MountJournalListScrollFrame/MountJournalListScrollFrameChild/tableYYYY |
| 01:24.16 | foxlit | there are a lot of those... help me pick one? :) |
| 01:24.30 | Semlar | the table one is an unnamed frame |
| 01:25.21 | Semlar | so what do you want to do to the frame |
| 01:25.55 | SuperPortia | I would like to add a graphic to the corner of each of the mount buttons (like in the pet journal) |
| 01:26.02 | SuperPortia | when you've favorited one. |
| 01:26.55 | SuperPortia | I'm trying to get some little stuff done to get my feet wet. |
| 01:27.38 | Semlar | i think all that stuff is part of the pet journal |
| 01:27.45 | SuperPortia | It is |
| 01:27.51 | Semlar | so look at https://github.com/Ketho/wow-ui-source/blob/beta/AddOns/Blizzard_PetJournal/Blizzard_PetJournal.lua |
| 01:28.20 | Semlar | https://github.com/Ketho/wow-ui-source/blob/beta/AddOns/Blizzard_PetJournal/Blizzard_PetJournal.xml this is the xml file with the template for the buttons, i think it's "MountListButtonTemplate" |
| 01:28.26 | Ketho | tekkub has updated his framexml repo now btw |
| 01:28.42 | Semlar | orly |
| 01:29.06 | Semlar | do you not want to get pinged every time i link to this |
| 01:29.35 | Ketho | sorry, nvm >< |
| 01:31.06 | Semlar | the icon itself i think you access from buttonName.icon |
| 01:32.18 | Semlar | the buttons appear to be stored in MountJournal.ListScrollFrame.buttons |
| 01:33.05 | SuperPortia | Ok, so it inherits names |
| 01:33.36 | SuperPortia | Where it sees $parent |
| 01:34.04 | Semlar | looks like the buttons are also called MountJournalListScrollFrameButton1 |
| 01:34.13 | Semlar | etc |
| 01:34.36 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:34.38 | SuperPortia | Well Button X, but I actually want it over the icon which is different |
| 01:34.56 | Semlar | yeah but you can access the icon through button.icon |
| 01:35.20 | Semlar | so you could use that to set the point of whatever you're putting over it |
| 01:35.25 | SuperPortia | ok |
| 01:36.01 | Semlar | although your addon is going to have to watch ADDON_LOADED for the petjournal because it's load on demand which means it isn't available until it gets opened |
| 01:36.03 | SuperPortia | Do I just start adding pairs to the children? |
| 01:36.18 | SuperPortia | Right now I'm just pulling information down and printing it. |
| 01:36.25 | SuperPortia | I grabbed some addon dev tools |
| 01:40.06 | Semlar | what texture did you want to use? |
| 01:40.24 | SuperPortia | It's the favorite star texture for now |
| 01:40.28 | SuperPortia | Trying to find it |
| 01:41.48 | SuperPortia | It doesn't appear to be readily avaialble. Still looking though |
| 01:44.07 | SuperPortia | It might be in code at this point. |
| 01:44.23 | Semlar | http://pastebin.com/pmeziTke here's a small example that might help |
| 01:45.29 | Semlar | you're going to have to figure out which mounts are going to get a texture |
| 01:45.45 | SuperPortia | For now all of them. |
| 01:45.53 | SuperPortia | I ran it, but I'm not seeing the texture |
| 01:46.41 | SuperPortia | gotta reload the ui |
| 01:47.03 | Semlar | should work |
| 01:47.18 | SuperPortia | What does inverted 11 mushroom look like? |
| 01:47.42 | Semlar | inventory mushroom |
| 01:48.32 | SuperPortia | Name is always going to start with Blizzard_ ? |
| 01:48.32 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/Kf2lK.jpg |
| 01:49.07 | Semlar | their "addons" all start with Blizzard_ |
| 01:49.24 | SuperPortia | What are running the code in? |
| 01:49.48 | Semlar | we have to make sure that the pet journal has loaded before we start accessing the buttons |
| 01:51.13 | Semlar | the code i linked to is meant to be run from an addon |
| 01:51.19 | SuperPortia | Ah |
| 01:51.23 | Semlar | not a macro |
| 01:51.32 | SuperPortia | I was running it from /lua |
| 01:51.49 | SuperPortia | The WoWLua addon |
| 01:51.59 | SuperPortia | It's possible it's getting collected. |
| 01:51.59 | Semlar | it does nothing unless it gets the addon loaded event for the pet journal which only fires the first time it's opened |
| 01:52.06 | SuperPortia | Gotcha. |
| 01:52.14 | Semlar | so if it's already open it won't work |
| 01:52.34 | SuperPortia | Does it get dumped on a /reload ui |
| 01:52.41 | Semlar | yes |
| 01:53.24 | Semlar | if you want to run it through a macro just take the for loop and use that |
| 01:54.34 | SuperPortia | Ok, the basic code works from /lua if I take out the checks and I get the mushroom stuff. |
| 01:54.38 | SuperPortia | Thank you |
| 01:55.26 | Semlar | you'll need to figure out how to check which mount is on which button |
| 01:55.49 | Semlar | it's in the framexml that i linked to |
| 01:55.51 | SuperPortia | That's for part 2 |
| 01:55.59 | Semlar | but if you need help with that let me know |
| 01:56.06 | SuperPortia | I just needed some basic, 'how to manipulate from code' |
| 01:56.31 | SuperPortia | This is my first crack at lua but I've been doing professional coding for like 15 years. |
| 01:56.38 | SuperPortia | I just needed a break from C++/C# |
| 01:57.35 | SuperPortia | So what add-ons have you written? |
| 01:58.00 | SuperPortia | Is there an online repository where I can look at the images? |
| 01:59.51 | Semlar | http://pastebin.com/yEQ8HDTn i updated it with the texture you want |
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| 02:00.34 | Semlar | it's actually only part of a texture |
| 02:01.57 | SuperPortia | Yes you did. |
| 02:02.14 | Semlar | the whole texture contains multiple different icons and it just picks a slice out of it to display the one you want |
| 02:02.19 | SuperPortia | So it's one big image for the whole thing and then offsets to get the actual part you want? |
| 02:02.30 | SuperPortia | I've used the technique before with CSS |
| 02:02.52 | SuperPortia | I have to admit, this is pretty cool. |
| 02:03.09 | Semlar | they use it to save space since the textures have to be a square of 2 or something in dimensions so i guess they squish whatever they can into it |
| 02:03.20 | kd3 | image sprites are <3 |
| 02:03.40 | Semlar | if you're wandering how i got the coordinates they're in the xml file https://github.com/Ketho/wow-ui-source/blob/beta/AddOns/Blizzard_PetJournal/Blizzard_PetJournal.xml |
| 02:04.12 | Semlar | did a search for "favorite" |
| 02:04.14 | SuperPortia | So they are |
| 02:05.04 | Semlar | and just copied the anchor they use for the pets |
| 02:05.16 | Semlar | so it should basically be identical |
| 02:05.32 | SuperPortia | Pretty much. A pixel in some bounds, but good enough for government work. |
| 02:08.03 | SuperPortia | So I'm assuming my add-on has some kind of persistent storage. |
| 02:08.17 | Semlar | it can |
| 02:08.24 | Semlar | they're called saved variables |
| 02:08.40 | SuperPortia | Always per-computer? |
| 02:08.55 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/Saving_variables_between_game_sessions |
| 02:08.55 | Semlar | yes |
| 02:09.30 | Semlar | it's stored in a file under the WTF folder |
| 02:10.01 | Semlar | and that article covers everything about it |
| 02:14.13 | SuperPortia | As you said a frame isn't an actual graphical frame, but an object. |
| 02:14.27 | SuperPortia | So my add-on will have a frame even though it produces no direct UI on its own currently. |
| 02:14.33 | Semlar | it's a table with a special set of methods |
| 02:14.59 | Semlar | it doesn't inherently have any graphical interface |
| 02:15.14 | Semlar | and you need a frame if you want to watch events, for example |
| 02:15.57 | Semlar | like ADDON_LOADED so you know when you can access the pet journal |
| 02:17.41 | Semlar | if you want your frame to be visible then you can make it a child of UIParent and add some textures to it or something |
| 02:17.49 | SuperPortia | ## SavedVariables and ## SavedVariablesPerCharacter are comma separated lists? |
| 02:18.23 | Semlar | you generally just make one saved variable for your addon that's a table |
| 02:18.29 | SuperPortia | Gotcha |
| 02:18.40 | Semlar | so you can just add whatever you want to that |
| 02:18.54 | Semlar | so you don't have to create a bunch of different variables |
| 02:19.28 | Semlar | but i think they are comma separated lists if you wanted to do that |
| 02:19.33 | SuperPortia | Makes sense. Standard convention says it's the same names as the add-on or are my variable names scoped to my add-on? |
| 02:19.57 | Semlar | they're global variables |
| 02:20.21 | Semlar | naming convention is usually your addon name plus whatever you want it to be called |
| 02:20.30 | SuperPortia | So technically I could see other people's variables. |
| 02:20.34 | Semlar | like DB for database or whatever |
| 02:20.36 | Semlar | yep |
| 02:20.52 | bleeter | all your variables are belong to us |
| 02:21.18 | Semlar | you could access another addon's saved variables if you waited for their addon_loaded event |
| 02:21.27 | Semlar | which they aren't available before |
| 02:25.38 | SuperPortia | Do I need to registerEvent("ADDON_LOADED")? |
| 02:26.43 | SuperPortia | Oh is there something you can do to prevent you from logging out while you're developing? |
| 02:27.23 | Semlar | move |
| 02:27.29 | Semlar | if you mean from idling |
| 02:28.09 | SuperPortia | Well I've seen the name of my add-on for the fist time in the game. That's a pretty neat feeling. |
| 02:28.13 | SuperPortia | thank you for that. |
| 02:28.44 | Semlar | you need to register for any events you want to watch |
| 02:29.09 | Semlar | any time one of the events fires it goes to your OnEvent script handler |
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| 02:30.46 | Semlar | since you're already watching for ADDON_LOADED you can modify it a little to support your own addon's name and handle the saved variables and stuff |
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| 02:31.39 | SuperPortia | http://pastebin.com/SpjRpxi2 |
| 02:31.52 | SuperPortia | As an add-on not working quite so much |
| 02:33.29 | SuperPortia | Alright it's working. |
| 02:34.12 | Semlar | http://pastebin.com/8HP0Qwrc |
| 02:34.44 | Semlar | something like that |
| 02:35.08 | Semlar | i'm also unregistering the addon_loaded event after the petjournal is loaded, which isn't strictly necessary |
| 02:35.35 | SuperPortia | Wow there's very little structure to Lua and SetScript |
| 02:36.11 | Semlar | you could break that entire function out into a named function if you want |
| 02:37.16 | Semlar | i just put it all into setscript |
| 02:37.18 | SuperPortia | I'm not entirely clear on when you add semicolons and when you don't. |
| 02:37.24 | Semlar | never |
| 02:37.35 | Semlar | there's literally never any reason to use semicolons |
| 02:37.36 | bleeter | not true |
| 02:37.43 | Semlar | SHUT UP BLEETER |
| 02:37.51 | SuperPortia | haha |
| 02:37.53 | bleeter | add semi colons in the text of comments, for a start |
| 02:37.55 | Dark_Elf | ; |
| 02:38.03 | Jitta | ; |
| 02:38.17 | Semlar | ;_; |
| 02:38.31 | bleeter | ;P |
| 02:39.31 | SuperPortia | So it's all tabing and linespacing for scope definition and scoping |
| 02:39.47 | Semlar | only if you want people to be able to read it |
| 02:40.07 | bleeter | people |
| 02:40.09 | bleeter | ungh |
| 02:40.18 | Semlar | only if you want to be able to read it* |
| 02:40.36 | bleeter | should I afk yet? :P |
| 02:40.42 | SuperPortia | I take it print doesn't go to the chatframe |
| 02:40.49 | SuperPortia | Or anywhere I can see. |
| 02:40.51 | Semlar | print does go to the chat frame |
| 02:41.27 | Semlar | for example, /run print("i'm printing stuff to the chat frame!") |
| 02:41.57 | Semlar | is the same as DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("whatever") or close enough approximation |
| 02:42.04 | SuperPortia | Yeah. |
| 02:42.11 | SuperPortia | Ok, my if clause was screwed up |
| 02:42.23 | SuperPortia | It's working now. |
| 02:42.43 | Jitta | I always wondered: is there a difference between /script and /run ? |
| 02:42.50 | Semlar | run is shorter |
| 02:42.54 | Jitta | ha |
| 02:42.56 | Jitta | okay |
| 02:43.06 | Semlar | and yet i still almost always type script |
| 02:43.15 | Jitta | so do i |
| 02:43.31 | bleeter | is script 'classic'? I can't recall... |
| 02:43.45 | Semlar | run might have been introduced later |
| 02:44.45 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/KJGPt.jpg surface! |
| 02:44.57 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/DK2C6.jpg not surface |
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| 02:48.08 | Semlar | i actually found a place in the jade forest the uses underwater terrain tiles like vashjir does but i don't know if they're actually visible in game or not |
| 02:51.09 | SuperPortia | Cool |
| 02:51.46 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/4hUlx.jpg left side is no water, right side is with water |
| 02:52.29 | bleeter | dmes|tail |
| 02:52.32 | bleeter | feck |
| 02:53.38 | kd3 | ugh; http://blogs.nature.com/news/2012/11/lamar-smith-wins-nomination-for-top-house-science-position.html |
| 02:54.01 | bleeter | y'all crazy merkins! |
| 02:54.14 | bleeter | ... |
| 02:54.53 | Semlar | well conveniently i don't live in texas |
| 02:55.33 | SuperPortia | We didn't have really fair elections. |
| 02:56.26 | Mr_Rabies | isn't a merkin a pubic wig bleeter |
| 02:57.00 | Dark_Elf | i thought a merkin was a beaver |
| 02:58.33 | Dark_Elf | hmm world of warcraft MoP strategy guide on sale at gamestop for 9.99 this week |
| 02:58.49 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 02:59.00 | Mr_Rabies | strategy guide for an mmo still confuses the hell out of me |
| 02:59.11 | Dark_Elf | well its got some nice maps |
| 03:00.37 | bleeter | 9.99 for a legit guide book to show new players how dumb guide books are, is pretty good |
| 03:01.32 | Mr_Rabies | i bought a dark souls strategy guide |
| 03:01.41 | Mr_Rabies | when the wiki was lacking sorely |
| 03:01.51 | Mr_Rabies | i mostly used it for the cool artwork though |
| 03:02.04 | Mr_Rabies | i got it like 75% off....right after it launched O_o |
| 03:02.28 | Mr_Rabies | then i bought a dark souls artbook proper for $50 :| |
| 03:02.29 | SuperPortia | So you guys use notepad++? |
| 03:02.50 | Dark_Elf | uses notepad lol |
| 03:03.16 | SuperPortia | That's what I'm using at the moment. But I like tools. |
| 03:03.26 | Semlar | i use ultraedit but only because i can't be bothered to download notepad++ |
| 03:03.40 | Semlar | i hate this editor |
| 03:04.00 | SuperPortia | What was the plug-in for IntelliJ? |
| 03:05.16 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/BrA6z.jpg |
| 03:06.13 | Dark_Elf | damn that a lot of windows |
| 03:06.34 | cirdan | vim ftw |
| 03:06.35 | Semlar | this is why i never get anything done |
| 03:06.37 | cirdan | :-) |
| 03:08.08 | Dark_Elf | i do say though what up with all the astrolabe.lua tabs though? |
| 03:08.24 | Semlar | different versions of the same thing |
| 03:08.48 | Semlar | or possibly different locations |
| 03:09.03 | Dark_Elf | nice |
| 03:09.16 | Dark_Elf | is utraedit freeware? |
| 03:09.21 | Semlar | no |
| 03:09.34 | Semlar | and i don't think it offers anything that notepad++ doesn't |
| 03:09.42 | Dark_Elf | k |
| 03:09.56 | SuperPortia | What about IntelliJ? It's free. |
| 03:10.03 | Semlar | and things like ctrl+w don't close a tab, they toggle wordwrap |
| 03:10.17 | Semlar | i don't know what they were thinking with their hotkeys |
| 03:14.28 | SuperPortia | IntelliJ has syntax highlighting, partial autocomplete and supposedly supports WoW Lua |
| 03:14.41 | SuperPortia | And error highlighting |
| 03:14.48 | Semlar | haven't used it |
| 03:14.53 | SuperPortia | It's free |
| 03:15.15 | Dark_Elf | link it |
| 03:15.19 | Semlar | http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/ |
| 03:15.45 | Dark_Elf | i will download it |
| 03:15.50 | SuperPortia | I love ReSharper.. best VS add-on in the business. |
| 03:16.34 | Dark_Elf | ouch it uses java |
| 03:17.43 | SuperPortia | It's not bad. |
| 03:17.55 | SuperPortia | It's a Java IDE, but you can download a Lua plug-in for it. |
| 03:19.19 | Dark_Elf | i will pass but it looks good |
| 03:22.22 | Kemayo | Sublime Text 2 is good. |
| 03:22.22 | Dark_Elf | notepad++ has Lua built-in |
| 03:22.55 | Kemayo | It's not free, but you can use it without paying; it'll just nag you occasionally. |
| 03:24.20 | SuperPortia | I'm just liking the idea of having autocomplete and documentation for the WoW APIs |
| 03:24.26 | SuperPortia | Built in as I type. |
| 03:29.11 | Arrowmaster | fucking sorcery http://imgur.com/NQAAI |
| 03:30.58 | Fisker | attacks Arrowmaster |
| 03:31.01 | Primer | Engrish? |
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| 03:45.43 | SuperPortia | Ok, finally got my dev environment on my laptop up and running |
| 03:45.55 | Jamash | woot |
| 03:46.11 | Jamash | I stuffed some folded up pieces of paper in my laptop to keep the GPU from overheating |
| 03:46.43 | SuperPortia | Now I just need to learn how to favorite something. |
| 03:46.51 | Jamash | in what? |
| 03:47.59 | SuperPortia | Sorry, how to add a right click menu. |
| 03:50.08 | Dark_Elf | in wow? |
| 03:50.15 | SuperPortia | Yeah |
| 03:50.29 | SuperPortia | I know how to do it in Windows like six different ways. |
| 03:50.35 | Dark_Elf | lol |
| 03:50.44 | SuperPortia | Any suggestions? |
| 03:50.56 | Dark_Elf | well i got a link for that |
| 03:51.03 | Semlar | there's a template but i don't think it's safe to use |
| 03:51.16 | Semlar | not sure |
| 03:51.28 | Dark_Elf | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=15763 |
| 03:52.09 | SuperPortia | Does that require Ace? |
| 03:52.17 | Semlar | no |
| 03:52.42 | Semlar | it's a tutorial on how to use the uidropdownmenu template |
| 03:52.48 | SuperPortia | Thanks |
| 03:55.32 | Dark_Elf | looks complicated lol |
| 03:56.08 | Semlar | it's pretty involved |
| 03:57.24 | SuperPortia | Apparentlyu. |
| 03:58.23 | Dark_Elf | i seen a few addons that do a small one |
| 03:59.24 | kd3 | ugh. of course shaman/hunter gear drops. damn it lucifron, there aren't either of those in the raid |
| 04:02.29 | Fisker | do you need it for anything kd3 ? |
| 04:02.52 | kd3 | nah. I just want the new companion pets |
| 04:03.16 | Fisker | me too |
| 04:03.24 | Fisker | but apparently Blizzard can't make Viscidus soloable |
| 04:03.46 | kd3 | supposedly visc is soloable. I tried razor but the damn orb of domination wouldn't work |
| 04:05.00 | durcyn | razorgore's a bit of a bear for most classes, you need some kind of aoe threat to keep the adds off of him - self heals work best |
| 04:05.01 | Fisker | he is soloable if you're basically anything but a paladin and warrior i guess |
| 04:05.12 | Fisker | was no problem for me |
| 04:05.16 | Fisker | just stood at the horb |
| 04:05.17 | Fisker | orb* |
| 04:05.25 | Fisker | 95% of all adds just went to me |
| 04:06.01 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn|afk: http://www.thefeaturedcreature.com/wordpress6/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/tumblr_mdh7q89uQN1qbyxr0o1_250.gif |
| 04:07.10 | Fisker | also |
| 04:07.11 | Fisker | fun bug |
| 04:07.24 | Fisker | when i flew into AQ the game thought i could still fly for about 5 seconds |
| 04:07.32 | Fisker | then it realized i couldn't and leashed me back to the start of the instance |
| 04:07.37 | Fisker | that's a first for me :o |
| 04:08.57 | Fisker | I just saw a talk on spdy btw |
| 04:09.00 | Fisker | and damn |
| 04:09.03 | Fisker | tcp is a huge jerk |
| 04:11.23 | A-KO | TCP gets the job done |
| 04:11.28 | A-KO | SPDY has some apparent flaws :P |
| 04:12.54 | Fisker | as does most things |
| 04:13.00 | bleeter | http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2012/11/29/11/35/emu-caught-trying-to-break-into-homes |
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| 04:26.45 | kd3 | lmfao |
| 04:26.52 | kd3 | the left binding just dropped |
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| 04:32.34 | Fisker | soothes kd3 |
| 04:32.55 | kd3 | they relaxed the class requirement, didn't they? |
| 04:33.05 | kd3 | I'll have to make a detour on my way to AQ40 |
| 04:35.00 | Cairenn|afk | Arrowmaster: neat |
| 04:38.39 | Fisker | you already had the right binding? |
| 04:40.04 | kd3 | no |
| 04:40.17 | kd3 | but I can pick up the quest, I think |
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| 05:01.13 | Fisker | ah yeah |
| 05:01.49 | Arrowmaster | http://www.deseretnews.com/article/485273/GREAT-BAIT-STOLEN-PHONES-HELP-NET-FISH.html?pg=all |
| 05:06.08 | pompy | http://i.imgur.com/yqpYx.jpg |
| 05:15.38 | Fisker | why pompy ? |
| 05:18.49 | bleeter | https://twitter.com/0boy/status/272793971296722944/photo/1 |
| 05:19.07 | Fisker | i get it bleeter |
| 05:22.36 | durcyn | bleeter: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7200302752#18 |
| 05:22.45 | karl_w_w | bought a nexus 4 yet Fisker? |
| 05:22.49 | durcyn | bleeter: they broke the godamn function on -purpose- |
| 05:29.23 | pompy | gg |
| 05:32.27 | Fisker | several years ago karl_w_w |
| 05:33.24 | Fisker | so it's intended but done in a way that makes it appear broken? |
| 05:33.36 | Fisker | that sounds great |
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| 05:43.54 | kd3 | ugh. skeram is amusing |
| 05:44.05 | kd3 | I should probably turn off my water elemental so he'll stop MCing me |
| 05:45.41 | durcyn | Fisker: they probably have about zero people working at blizzard who care about the ui code at this point, so changing the C makes more sense |
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| 05:54.53 | jnwhiteh | yeah, except for that UI team and the changes they make regularly to the UI |
| 05:54.54 | jnwhiteh | O.o |
| 05:54.58 | jnwhiteh | umadbro? |
| 06:00.02 | bleeter | if only there were a wiki of undocumented changes and stuff |
| 06:00.14 | bleeter | i reckon that'd be pretty cool |
| 06:01.39 | pompy | bleeter: http://www.wowpedia.org/Patch_5.1.0_%28undocumented_changes%29 |
| 06:01.50 | End_ | I think that's the joke dot jpeg |
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| 06:07.19 | bleeter | in other news |
| 06:08.12 | bleeter | 'alliance requests asap permission to slaughter every single wrynn and never speak of them again' |
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| 06:22.46 | Shirik | so |
| 06:23.03 | Shirik | anyone got a good idea on how Google blurs out license plates and faces in their street view pics? |
| 06:23.22 | karl_w_w | " [Spirit of Harmony] Vendors now exchange a spirit for two [Golden Lotus] (down from three). " |
| 06:23.42 | karl_w_w | that must be their solution to the previously admitted problem of not enough golden lotuses |
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| 06:25.06 | kd3 | oh boo |
| 06:25.07 | kd3 | booo |
| 06:25.11 | End_ | Shirik: magic |
| 06:25.39 | Shirik | yes |
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| 06:30.27 | SuperPortia | Is there a way to get a dump of the data in a Lua table in WoW? |
| 06:30.55 | End_ | what do you mean, dump? |
| 06:31.00 | End_ | dump to where? |
| 06:31.14 | SuperPortia | I want the contents of a table or at least the names of the keys in it. |
| 06:31.20 | End_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:34.11 | SuperPortia | Do I need to convert values before I print them? |
| 06:34.21 | SuperPortia | Or can I just say print() on anything? |
| 06:34.48 | karl_w_w | u can print anything |
| 06:34.55 | End_ | IIRC, print will call tostring() on what you provide it |
| 06:35.09 | End_ | which might be useful, or it might not |
| 06:36.01 | SuperPortia | Is there any way to inspect userdata:? |
| 06:36.09 | End_ | not really |
| 06:36.31 | End_ | but userdata usually refers to a frame |
| 06:37.23 | End_ | so you can use the frame methods to examine whatever you're examining closer |
| 06:37.25 | Shirik | you can inspect userdata |
| 06:37.34 | Shirik | print(tostring(ud)) will give you the address |
| 06:37.40 | Shirik | then hook up a debugger and go to that memory location |
| 06:37.48 | Shirik | you now have all the memory for that userdata |
| 06:37.57 | End_ | somehow I don't think that's what he wants |
| 06:38.36 | SuperPortia | Actually it's a potential option if nothing is better. |
| 06:38.51 | SuperPortia | for _, button in pairs(MountJournal.ListScrollFrame.buttons) do print(button.spellID) |
| 06:38.55 | Shirik | I seriously doubt that is actually helpful to you |
| 06:38.59 | SuperPortia | prints nil |
| 06:39.08 | Shirik | then button.spellID does not exist |
| 06:39.10 | SuperPortia | I hook up debuggers all the time. |
| 06:39.18 | Shirik | yes, but a random series of bytes is not very useful |
| 06:39.32 | Shirik | I'm pretty convinced you don't have the PDBs associated with WoW |
| 06:39.36 | SuperPortia | If I run /script MountJournal.ListScrollFrame.buttons[1].spellID I get back the spellID |
| 06:39.43 | SuperPortia | I |
| 06:39.57 | SuperPortia | I'm not trying to debug it, but getting a memory dump is still better than nothing |
| 06:40.07 | Shirik | the first button is not necessarily buttons[1] |
| 06:40.31 | SuperPortia | buttons[1] gives me something, but the for loop version does not. |
| 06:40.36 | End_ | try ipairs |
| 06:40.43 | Shirik | and I am saying that your first button is not necessarily buttons[1] |
| 06:40.44 | End_ | or |
| 06:41.06 | End_ | you might want to examine the framexml to see how its set up |
| 06:41.09 | SuperPortia | Still nothing with iparis |
| 06:41.21 | Shirik | then one of your claims is false |
| 06:41.26 | SuperPortia | The framexml is done with for 1,#buttons |
| 06:41.47 | End_ | then ipairs should work |
| 06:42.39 | Shirik | random sanity check |
| 06:42.44 | Shirik | type(buttons) is "table"? |
| 06:43.45 | SuperPortia | Yes |
| 06:44.09 | Shirik | put assert(MountJournal.ListScrollFrame.buttons[1].spellID) immediately before your for loop |
| 06:45.21 | End_ | I tried running your snippet, and pairs works fine (but I have more than 10 mounts so none would be nil) and ipairs also works as expected |
| 06:45.31 | End_ | although I guess I could set a search term |
| 06:45.51 | End_ | heh it put 0 |
| 06:45.53 | SuperPortia | assertion failed |
| 06:46.00 | Shirik | then your earlier claim is false |
| 06:46.14 | Shirik | (22:39:26) (SuperPortia) If I run /script MountJournal.ListScrollFrame.buttons[1].spellID I get back the spellID |
| 06:46.20 | Shirik | this statement is not a true statement at the time you run that code |
| 06:46.50 | SuperPortia | Gives me 75207 |
| 06:47.09 | End_ | lua> assert(75207) |
| 06:47.10 | lua_bot | End_: 75207 |
| 06:47.20 | Shirik | thwacks End_ |
| 06:47.20 | End_ | ;-p |
| 06:47.24 | SuperPortia | Ok it gives me nil before it's loaded. |
| 06:47.26 | SuperPortia | And |
| 06:47.31 | SuperPortia | And |
| 06:47.35 | End_ | oh that might happen |
| 06:47.36 | SuperPortia | And a value after it's loaded. |
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| 06:48.22 | End_ | wait until one of the COMPANION_UPDATE events |
| 06:48.30 | Mr_Rabies | hrmmm |
| 06:48.31 | Mr_Rabies | are there any addons that somehow mark BoP items' icons? |
| 06:48.58 | karl_w_w | in what way |
| 06:49.09 | Mr_Rabies | it's kind of a pain to tell a boe from a bop anymore on loot rolls, and it would be nice to see in loot windows, too |
| 06:49.30 | karl_w_w | use teksloot :P |
| 06:50.09 | End_ | actually scratch that, you probably want to hook one of the mountjournal functions |
| 06:50.20 | End_ | or something like that |
| 06:50.54 | SuperPortia | I was hooked to the MountJournal ADDON_LOADED |
| 06:51.03 | End_ | well |
| 06:51.08 | End_ | that's good, to a point |
| 06:51.21 | End_ | what are you trying to do? |
| 06:51.54 | SuperPortia | I'm trying to update the look of the mounts tab on load, modifying each of the mount buttons. |
| 06:51.56 | karl_w_w | the addon has loaded, doesn't mean the addon has done what it needs to populate the tables |
| 06:52.59 | End_ | you'll probably want to create a hook in your ADDON_ |
| 06:53.01 | End_ | LOADED event |
| 06:53.10 | End_ | maybe hook MountJournal_UpdateMountDisplay |
| 06:53.37 | End_ | wait, no ,that's the clicky event |
| 06:53.41 | End_ | function* |
| 06:53.52 | End_ | MountJournal_UpdateMountList |
| 06:54.40 | SuperPortia | I can hook a function? |
| 06:54.46 | End_ | yes |
| 06:54.54 | SuperPortia | Then it would be MountJournal_UpdateMountList |
| 06:55.13 | SuperPortia | That's the thing that updates when something happens and after it loads I should have data in teh buttons. |
| 06:55.34 | End_ | well |
| 06:55.52 | End_ | yes |
| 06:55.58 | SuperPortia | It's implementation relies on teh stuff being there. |
| 06:56.05 | End_ | yes hook that function |
| 06:56.19 | SuperPortia | Ok, new here... how? |
| 06:56.44 | End_ | I'd use hooksecurefunc because I'm lazy, it's a post hook which you want, and you wouldn't have to worry about taint, although taint shouldn't be an issue in this case |
| 06:56.55 | End_ | so mostly the first two reasons |
| 06:57.34 | End_ | http://pastebin.com/5qfgY6hx |
| 06:58.19 | End_ | you'll want to run that in your ADDON_LOADED event, and you don't need to use an anonymous function |
| 07:01.09 | SuperPortia | That did it. |
| 07:02.02 | SuperPortia | Alright, while I want to continue, I do have work tomorrow. |
| 07:02.12 | SuperPortia | Thanks for all your help. |
| 07:02.15 | End_ | yup, np |
| 07:03.27 | kd3 | blah. I cannot get ouro to stay up for more than 10 seconds even when I'm standing in him |
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| 07:22.54 | kd3 | damn it. c'thun isn't soloable |
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| 07:26.18 | nevcairiel | he probably does bad things when you get into the belly |
| 07:27.40 | Kalroth | i bet he summons ouru |
| 07:27.48 | kd3 | yeah. the digestive acid aura is %health based, but he'll instakill me after ~6 seconds because he doesn't have anyone to attack on the surface |
| 07:28.17 | nevcairiel | yeah thats what i meant, most bosses arent too happy when their main phase is being left unattended |
| 07:28.31 | Kalroth | wipe clean up |
| 07:29.10 | kd3 | my first joke in /g when I got to his room was "It's a shame I don't have a raid with me... I want to break the record for green-beaming 40 people" |
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| 07:46.04 | kd3 | hahaha, oops: Fixed an issue that could cause some players to be friendly with the denizens of the Black Temple. |
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| 08:19.17 | Mr_Rabies | kd3, if you wanna get a small cross-realm raid going for c'thun tomorrow i may be down, i'm stuck there too |
| 08:19.30 | kd3 | did you get visc? |
| 08:19.39 | Mr_Rabies | mhm |
| 08:19.41 | Mr_Rabies | what class are you? |
| 08:19.51 | kd3 | mage |
| 08:20.10 | kd3 | even popping my images and blowing cds and aoeing, still couldn't get him to shatter |
| 08:20.19 | kd3 | he froze easily |
| 08:20.22 | Mr_Rabies | try mirror image and spamming anything fast |
| 08:20.23 | nevcairiel | dont you need meele? |
| 08:20.23 | Mr_Rabies | dang |
| 08:20.41 | Mr_Rabies | i put elemental force on an old weapon |
| 08:20.44 | nevcairiel | back in the day shattering required meleeing |
| 08:20.59 | Mr_Rabies | but i did 2-man it |
| 08:21.22 | Mr_Rabies | it took me swapping to treants |
| 08:21.28 | Mr_Rabies | but we got it really easily when i did that |
| 08:22.23 | Mr_Rabies | next week we'll two-man it kd3, if you want :o |
| 08:22.28 | Mr_Rabies | gimme yo battletag |
| 08:22.40 | kd3 | it's in the spreadshet |
| 08:22.53 | kd3 | kd3#something |
| 08:23.10 | Mr_Rabies | i'll consult it |
| 08:23.21 | kd3 | kd3#1949 |
| 08:25.13 | Mr_Rabies | added, thanks :D |
| 08:25.25 | Mr_Rabies | now i have someone else to pester |
| 08:25.44 | Mr_Rabies | that's like 99% of what i do during raid downtime |
| 08:26.35 | Mr_Rabies | bother people on my friends list with dumb things while they're trying to raid as well |
| 08:26.36 | nevcairiel | you do know that he still has to approve the friend request, right? :P |
| 08:27.01 | Mr_Rabies | yeah :p |
| 08:35.46 | Mr_Rabies | wow, ony's really easy to solo now :o |
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| 09:15.43 | karl_w_w | if i was a rich girl, na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na |
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| 09:27.58 | lcd | Can you disable alt-f4 in windows? |
| 09:28.42 | lcd | I keep hitting it because I have alt-f5 mapped. |
| 09:28.50 | lcd | sloppy fingers. :/ |
| 09:29.14 | nevcairiel | there is no reliable way to turn it off, no |
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| 09:34.55 | Vlad| | kokt vatten det är godt det |
| 09:39.39 | zenzio | lcd: out of curiosity, what have you mapped to alt+f5? |
| 09:41.29 | stuf | afaik alt-f4 is almost as super as ctrl-alt-del, so no, there's no way to disable it. |
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| 09:58.08 | karl_w_w | so dont use alt F5 |
| 09:59.24 | lcd | zenzio: whirlwind |
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| 10:21.57 | karl_w_w | filling in a survey about newspapers |
| 10:22.11 | karl_w_w | and their desperation is just bleeding through |
| 10:24.26 | karl_w_w | most of the questions are along the lines of "what do you look for in a newspaper" |
| 10:24.48 | karl_w_w | yet none of the potential responses have been "stop being right-wing FUD machines" |
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| 10:44.18 | lcd | karl_w_w: lol |
| 10:44.25 | lcd | FUD News |
| 10:46.09 | haste | Vlad|: only if it's mixed with coffee |
| 10:46.29 | Vlad| | haste: it's from a lord of the rings parody in swedish :p |
| 10:47.06 | haste | can you be much more random? |
| 10:47.09 | haste | :3 |
| 10:48.18 | Vlad| | probably not |
| 10:52.04 | Vlad| | ranked 76 on empress shek'zeer in lfr :P |
| 10:52.09 | Vlad| | (as tank) |
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| 11:26.37 | chiel | haste: yeah, I was looking in a weird place, but when you register a style with a callback it goes through that... my own code had me confused yesterday |
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| 11:34.02 | karl_w_w | How would you describe afr.com for this sort of occasion? first option: Awkward to hold |
| 11:35.32 | haste | chiel: your style function is called through some trickery for header frames |
| 11:36.58 | chiel | ah i see |
| 11:37.29 | chiel | haste: i did it kinda weirdly though, cause i register only a single style, and the callback function then checks what frame i'm actually styling |
| 11:37.55 | haste | sounds like the old way :) |
| 11:38.41 | chiel | haste: yeah maybe.. i looked at tukui + elvui and thought "hey that's neat", maybe it's not that need... :p |
| 11:39.44 | haste | it depends |
| 11:39.52 | haste | one style fits all tends to turn into clusterfucks |
| 11:40.35 | chiel | yeah, that's what i'm kinda feeling it's turning into now |
| 11:40.48 | chiel | i've split stuff up fairly neatly into separate files per frame etc |
| 11:40.55 | chiel | but maybe there's a better way to do things |
| 11:41.21 | chiel | it's my first go at lua + addon coding + oUF so... i guess i still have some things to learn |
| 11:41.54 | haste | its a matter of taste really |
| 11:42.19 | haste | https://github.com/haste/oUF_Lily/blob/master/lily.lua#L400-L443 is how I ended up solving it |
| 11:44.08 | chiel | hmm yeah |
| 11:44.14 | chiel | lemme find how i do it with my player, one sec. |
| 11:45.02 | karl_w_w | This screen is here for development purposes only and will be removed prior to fielding |
| 11:45.02 | karl_w_w | Respondent would have successfully completed the survey at this point |
| 11:45.12 | karl_w_w | nice work somebody, nice work |
| 11:47.43 | chiel | haste: https://gist.github.com/15f22860196a2bda0fbd |
| 11:47.54 | chiel | it basically starts at init |
| 11:48.04 | chiel | when the player logs in, the Initialise function is called |
| 11:48.50 | chiel | I actually changed it up a bit since this code, but the general idea remains the same |
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| 12:09.44 | Vlad| | "Some adds should be sticking to you (but won't interrupt your channel). There's no debuff when using the orb, so you can interrupt it, clean adds, and retake control of the boss as much as you want, and you can destroy eggs non-stop (other than his 3 second cast)." |
| 12:09.55 | Vlad| | ( http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/246305-big-thanks-for-51-bwl/ ) |
| 12:10.21 | Vlad| | thing is (1) there is a 10 seconds debuff, not that it really maters (2) "clean adds" how? aoe kills razorgore too and that doesn't help you :P |
| 12:10.37 | Vlad| | also (3) he has a cast but no cooldown :P |
| 12:10.54 | Vlad| | sounds like someone didn't actually test the encounter *wink Draztal<GM> win* |
| 12:23.33 | karl_w_w | http://www.break.com/index/fiendish-buried-alive-prank.html |
| 12:23.46 | karl_w_w | that was amazing |
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| 13:42.49 | Vlad| | Vicidus is not soloable :P |
| 13:42.59 | Vlad| | mathematically speaking that is :P |
| 13:44.41 | Vlad| | 1 sec attack speed, using [Brunnhildar Harpoon] with Deathfrost enchant, Frost Oil - and actualy with Elixir of the Rapids (with trinket) I get my attack speed down to .97 so it's as fast as I can hit and I only get to him "begins to crack" emote :P |
| 13:46.18 | karl_w_w | what class are you? |
| 13:46.44 | nevcairiel | if you can combine 1s speed with many special attacks, it should work |
| 13:47.17 | nevcairiel | otherwise, find a friend to help |
| 13:47.20 | nevcairiel | 2 maning is easy |
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| 13:50.40 | Vlad| | druid |
| 13:50.58 | nevcairiel | go cat, always has 1s swing, and spam the hell out of the specials |
| 13:50.59 | Vlad| | I save my berserker and I start to spam my mangle (cheapest) so I attack all the time :P |
| 13:51.01 | Vlad| | I told you |
| 13:51.03 | Vlad| | I do that lol |
| 13:51.38 | karl_w_w | yeah, well |
| 13:51.40 | Vlad| | as I said .97 attack speed with frost weapon (auto attack = 1 frost attack) and I use my berserk to get endless energy and spam my cheapest energy attack, meaning I attack as fast and as many times as I can :P |
| 13:51.41 | karl_w_w | druids are lame! |
| 13:51.54 | Vlad| | he cracks, then another emote, then finally explodes |
| 13:51.59 | Vlad| | so I get only 1/3 of the way :P |
| 13:52.05 | nevcairiel | hit treants and let them help! |
| 13:52.17 | karl_w_w | treants dont do frost attacks |
| 13:52.25 | karl_w_w | a frost dk could do it im sure |
| 13:52.32 | nevcairiel | when he is already frozen, you dont need frost attacks anymore, do you? :d |
| 13:52.48 | nevcairiel | you need to shatter teh ice block |
| 13:53.26 | Vlad| | yeah |
| 13:53.42 | Vlad| | sadly if I go balance I loose my 1 sec attack speed :P |
| 13:53.44 | karl_w_w | i remember i think during wotlk we tried to do it with like 7 ppl and couldnt even freeze him |
| 13:53.52 | nevcairiel | treants are a talent now |
| 13:53.55 | karl_w_w | 2 frost mages and a shammy |
| 13:54.10 | Vlad| | hmm |
| 13:54.22 | Vlad| | ah yes |
| 13:54.36 | Vlad| | btw the fix is simple |
| 13:54.45 | Vlad| | double his timer in the frozen phase ;D |
| 13:54.55 | Vlad| | but yes I shall try treants too |
| 13:54.59 | nevcairiel | they dont want everything to be trivial |
| 13:55.04 | Vlad| | there is hard |
| 13:55.10 | Vlad| | and there is mathematically bordering on impossible :P |
| 13:55.23 | nevcairiel | maybe they dont want everything soloable :P |
| 13:55.25 | Vlad| | besides he isn't hard either :P |
| 13:55.31 | karl_w_w | aq40 isn't a solo raid |
| 13:55.36 | Vlad| | hehe |
| 13:55.40 | Vlad| | can solo it |
| 13:55.40 | karl_w_w | the clue is in the abbreviation |
| 13:55.44 | Vlad| | except vicidus |
| 13:55.49 | nevcairiel | you cant solo cthun either because he gets mad when he has nothing to hit |
| 13:55.53 | Vlad| | ye |
| 13:55.55 | nevcairiel | or so i am told |
| 13:55.56 | Vlad| | vicidus and cthun |
| 13:56.03 | Vlad| | only alive due to their nature :P |
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| 13:56.10 | Vlad| | but blizz nerfed many other bosses |
| 13:56.13 | Vlad| | they just forgot a few ;D |
| 13:56.18 | karl_w_w | i get mad when there is nothing to hit as well |
| 13:56.21 | nevcairiel | that takes me back, cthun was so much fun in classic |
| 13:56.24 | nevcairiel | oh how i miss that time |
| 13:56.26 | Vlad| | lol |
| 13:56.36 | nevcairiel | being a careless student in high school, with nothing but time to play wow |
| 13:56.39 | Vlad| | I wonder if I can do 2nd boss in ICC now |
| 13:56.42 | Vlad| | :D |
| 13:56.54 | karl_w_w | yeah should be easy |
| 13:56.56 | Vlad| | I didn't play so much when I was in uni, had to study :p but I played occasionally |
| 13:57.26 | nevcairiel | now, like 6 years later, i'm done with school, done with university, and in a good job, and have not much time for anything :P |
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| 13:58.49 | Vlad| | hehe, funny. lord marrowgar spams a cleave spell so he never auto attacks |
| 13:58.58 | Vlad| | kind of makes my new 5.1 maul ability useless on him :D |
| 13:59.44 | nevcairiel | i've always wondered how well icc can be soloed |
| 14:00.24 | Vlad| | he is dead |
| 14:00.27 | nevcairiel | btw, viscidus is already on the list of bosses they changed to be killed alone |
| 14:00.36 | Vlad| | ye, but they didn't change him well enough :D |
| 14:00.45 | Vlad| | they probably tested with a mage or DK :P |
| 14:00.46 | Vlad| | lol |
| 14:01.02 | nevcairiel | kd3 (as a mage) complained earlier about not being able to |
| 14:01.10 | Vlad| | hmm |
| 14:01.25 | zenzio | BC was my favourite WoW period, due in part to the style/encounters, and to a larger degree because of the time I had to put proper effort into things |
| 14:01.29 | Vlad| | lady deathwhisper killed me last month, couldn't kill her because her adds that can't die from melee abilities killed me :P |
| 14:01.43 | nevcairiel | oh yeah that sounds annoying |
| 14:01.43 | zenzio | when Sunwell hit I got a job, and couldn't devote as much time |
| 14:01.56 | nevcairiel | i devoted about the same time in classic and BC |
| 14:02.00 | nevcairiel | both i really liked |
| 14:02.12 | Ressy | hooray! "Great Cranes now drop Pristine Jet Crownfeathers more frequently." |
| 14:02.13 | nevcairiel | although i guess black temple was my favorite period |
| 14:02.35 | zenzio | <Vlad|> lady deathwhisper killed me last month, couldn't kill her because her adds that can't die from melee abilities killed me :P <-- I had that problem in Scholomance, with the occultists that turn into shades. Finally managed it by Heroic Leaping and burning them down before they could tranform |
| 14:02.43 | nevcairiel | i think i'll try to go solo that, wonder if you can get illidan alone :P |
| 14:02.43 | Vlad| | :D |
| 14:03.05 | nevcairiel | zenzio: arent those guys gone in the new scholo? :p |
| 14:03.15 | zenzio | I'm talking about old Scholo |
| 14:06.00 | Vlad| | she barely summons ads anymore |
| 14:06.03 | Vlad| | deathwhisper :P |
| 14:06.10 | Vlad| | got only 2 waves |
| 14:06.37 | Vlad| | and she is dead now |
| 14:06.58 | zenzio | how's Vashj and Kael'Thas? |
| 14:07.20 | nevcairiel | feral friend of mine did KT |
| 14:07.27 | nevcairiel | he managed, not sure what had to be done |
| 14:07.48 | nevcairiel | guild log has him picking up a whole shitload of legendary weapons :P |
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| 14:09.32 | Vlad| | ye :D |
| 14:10.07 | zenzio | man, I so miss those bosses/those times... never felt as talented (I'm sure some will consider this sad) as I did tanking the BC raids in a reasonably good guild |
| 14:10.26 | SuperPortia | Morning all |
| 14:10.27 | zenzio | WotLK (tier 1) was too easy, got bored before Ulduar |
| 14:11.02 | Vlad| | it was nostalgic :P |
| 14:11.03 | nevcairiel | i managed to stay through tier 1, but in ulduar we hit some problems with people wanting easy and people wanting to do hard modes, so the guild kinda fell apart |
| 14:11.07 | Vlad| | nax :P |
| 14:11.32 | nevcairiel | i still knew nearly every tactic for nax, so it was more boring then nostalgic :p |
| 14:11.33 | Vlad| | most stable guild I ran was in tbc |
| 14:11.44 | Vlad| | and in early wotlk |
| 14:12.06 | nevcairiel | still was fun to get the achievement for noone dying and the black proto |
| 14:12.17 | nevcairiel | while the content was still the top tier, and not later like most other losers :P |
| 14:13.21 | nebula169 | i got immortal the week after the removed the drake, sigh. hated my guild so much |
| 14:13.25 | zenzio | my guild in WotLK drove me unhappy about raids. They were one of the two top guilds on the realm, and they were so focused on getting realm firsts that we lost them all. And when things were on farm, it turned out I didn't like the people; they were good players, but certainly didn't click with my personality |
| 14:13.25 | nebula169 | they* |
| 14:14.14 | nevcairiel | i was in the same day from MC to Ulduar |
| 14:14.16 | nevcairiel | er |
| 14:14.17 | nevcairiel | same guild |
| 14:14.39 | nevcairiel | but at some point it just didnt work anymore |
| 14:14.42 | zenzio | <nevcairiel> while the content was still the top tier, and not later like most other losers :P <-- I'm (perhaps unreasonably) very ticked off by all the Twilight Vanquishers walking around |
| 14:14.49 | zenzio | we actually did it when it was new and hard |
| 14:15.34 | nevcairiel | oh yeah thats one we also got when it was still hard and fun |
| 14:17.43 | nevcairiel | 2009-01-26, maybe not among the first, but before nerfs, i believe |
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| 14:18.09 | Vlad| | you guys don't hide titles and such? :P |
| 14:18.10 | zenzio | believe we got it on 19th December or so... let me check (to sate my own curiosity) |
| 14:18.10 | Vlad| | lol |
| 14:18.30 | zenzio | Vlad|: generally I hide all names |
| 14:18.43 | Vlad| | :D |
| 14:18.54 | Vlad| | I only see names to know who I am killing :p |
| 14:19.03 | Vlad| | btw many CRZ players show as "Unknown" :/ |
| 14:19.37 | nevcairiel | oh they even moved immortal to a FoS now |
| 14:20.30 | zenzio | 17th December actually |
| 14:20.31 | Vlad| | bartender bug when I enter the cannons in the ICC gunship battle: Message: ...er4\libs\LibActionButton-1.0\LibActionButton-1.0.lua:1347: Usage: GetActionLossOfControlCooldown(slot) |
| 14:20.41 | nevcairiel | update. :p |
| 14:21.10 | Ressy | Vlad|: Your router firmware up to date, as well as your network adapter driver? |
| 14:21.16 | zenzio | over the years I've become comfortable admitting that part of what made raiding especially fun to me back in the day was that it felt to me that it required skill, and made me feel somewhat talented; a feeling I really needed at the time |
| 14:21.20 | zenzio | (social issues) |
| 14:21.42 | zenzio | WotLK tier 1 difficulty took away a lot of that |
| 14:22.35 | nevcairiel | i liked doing the dungeon achievements in wotlk and cata as well |
| 14:22.56 | nevcairiel | always with a fixed group |
| 14:22.57 | zenzio | I probably would have if I had been in my BC guild |
| 14:23.01 | nevcairiel | those were good times |
| 14:23.39 | nevcairiel | heck in BC i even did pvp for a while, enough to get a gladiator title and mount, in the first season ever, in fact |
| 14:24.21 | Vlad| | but arena in bc was fun and new, now it's too competitive and I don't like it :D |
| 14:24.35 | Vlad| | actually did some in wotlk and in cata but never seriously :3 |
| 14:24.42 | Vlad| | never did it seriously in tbc for that mater, hehe |
| 14:24.56 | nevcairiel | never really did serious pvp after that first season anymore either |
| 14:25.00 | nevcairiel | the fun was kinda out of it |
| 14:25.10 | Vlad| | btw I updated bt4 yesterday |
| 14:25.10 | Vlad| | >.< |
| 14:25.17 | Vlad| | it supports the action loss stuff too :p |
| 14:25.21 | nevcairiel | yesterday had 3 versions |
| 14:26.22 | nevcairiel | one guy actually complained that i added the loss of control cooldowns, he liked not having them :P |
| 14:29.23 | Vlad| | lol I jumped on the horde boat when we won |
| 14:29.29 | Vlad| | so it's flying me over to some other place |
| 14:29.36 | Vlad| | lol |
| 14:29.40 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:30.26 | Vlad| | http://i.imgur.com/dyVSg.jpg |
| 14:30.44 | Vlad| | are you supposed to be able to do that? :P |
| 14:30.48 | Vlad| | weird why the game didn't kill me |
| 14:31.11 | nevcairiel | now you have to kill yourself |
| 14:31.13 | nevcairiel | much more fun |
| 14:31.20 | Vlad| | ye |
| 14:31.36 | Vlad| | the instance is out of proportions when you compare it to icecrown ;D |
| 14:32.53 | Vlad| | wonder if saurfang is soloable |
| 14:33.08 | nevcairiel | which is the pet boss? |
| 14:36.12 | Vlad| | blizzard forgot to tweak him :P |
| 14:36.34 | Vlad| | he heals more than I can manage to dps :p pets |
| 14:40.48 | Vlad| | gonna try killing his pets quicker |
| 14:46.55 | Vlad| | with mop and so low dodge as bear |
| 14:46.57 | Vlad| | he hits me too often |
| 14:47.02 | Vlad| | using my abilities all the time hehe |
| 14:47.13 | Vlad| | I guess he needs some tweaking too now :P |
| 14:55.41 | Vlad| | tell me if you manage to solo saurfang ;P |
| 14:56.41 | nevcairiel | i first need to finish level my monk and equip him, before he can go solo anything |
| 14:56.53 | nevcairiel | dont feel like taking my resto druid into raids solo |
| 14:57.02 | Vlad| | :D |
| 14:57.28 | Vlad| | btw blizzard should make heart of the wild talent put you in a stance |
| 14:57.36 | Vlad| | so you can have your own bar for when that happens, if you like :P |
| 14:57.52 | End_ | I don't really look at my action bars much, but I like the loss of control ui since its more complete than the addon that I had doing it before |
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| 15:00.33 | Vlad| | Portia!!! |
| 15:00.37 | Vlad| | just register your nick lol |
| 15:03.01 | Lopeppeppy | Portal? Where? |
| 15:03.36 | karl_w_w | Vlad|: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_P7yWnAAd0 |
| 15:03.37 | karl_w_w | :P |
| 15:04.12 | Vlad| | I said Portia, Lopeppeppy :P |
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| 15:10.30 | Lopeppeppy | It would be wicked smart to put my files through the converter before attempting to blow up my server with incompatible code, huh? |
| 15:10.58 | mitch0 | "the converter"? |
| 15:11.22 | Lopeppeppy | Program which converts evil to goodness, like magical unicorn poop. |
| 15:11.39 | End_ | the program lied to you |
| 15:11.44 | mitch0 | bet it's some shitty php, right? |
| 15:11.45 | End_ | it actually works in reverse |
| 15:13.52 | Lopeppeppy | No, it's xml. Stripping out the bad encoding, like ‘ for & . |
| 15:15.43 | nevcairiel | but & is & |
| 15:17.34 | Lopeppeppy | Bah, I copy pasted the wrong line, what-ev-er. :P |
| 15:18.46 | nevcairiel | i cant let someone being wrong on ther internet stand! |
| 15:19.06 | mitch0 | nevcairiel: can't |
| 15:19.16 | nevcairiel | thats just lazyness |
| 15:19.32 | Lopeppeppy | You totally just made me zip it to the wrong folder, you evil cretin. I'm doing too much multitasking when I fail at the little stuff. |
| 15:21.01 | nevcairiel | its not my fault i'm bored at work and have to hold out for another hour |
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| 15:29.05 | Vlad| | hmm this is slightly annoying |
| 15:29.39 | Vlad| | my nameplate code is acting weird on two palces, castbar Is not there, and tagged mobs are purple :( can't figure it out |
| 15:30.13 | Vlad| | also not to mention the new scale nameplate thing, meh :P |
| 15:30.30 | Vlad| | nevcairiel, I have a question |
| 15:30.40 | Vlad| | why can't nameplates show cast bar unless you target the unit? |
| 15:31.04 | Vlad| | blizzard should perhaps make a "nameplate"..i unit :D |
| 15:31.26 | Vlad| | it would help us traverse visual plates or something, also allow information to be gathered about visible units ^^ |
| 15:35.15 | nevcairiel | but they dont want that |
| 15:35.21 | nevcairiel | nameplates are locked as they are for reasons |
| 15:44.08 | Vlad| | thing is you can estimate quite well using CLEU |
| 15:44.30 | Vlad| | as long the nameplate stays in sight it will know and track the mob :P |
| 15:44.41 | Vlad| | just have to had a mouseover or some unit has to have targeted the unit before |
| 15:45.11 | Guest81967 | After I've created a texture, how do I then remove it? |
| 15:45.13 | Vlad| | platebuffs does this tough it needs a lot of updating in the code, kind of old :p |
| 15:45.16 | Vlad| | SetTexture(nil) |
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| 15:48.08 | Arrowmaster | seriously dell, you finally release another laptop preloaded with linux and this is what we get http://www.dell.com/us/soho/p/xps-13-linux/pd.aspx |
| 15:50.06 | Guest81967 | How do I get the existing texture there? |
| 15:50.19 | Arrowmaster | i still think im going to end up getting the Toshiba L855-S5309 while its on sale this week |
| 15:50.24 | Guest81967 | If I did button:CreateTexture(nil, 'OVERLAY') |
| 15:52.00 | Arrowmaster | !api gettexture |
| 15:52.00 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'gettexture': Texture:GetTexture, CalendarEventGetTextures |
| 15:52.06 | Arrowmaster | !api texture:gettexture |
| 15:52.07 | lua_bot | Texture:GetTexture: Returns the path to the texture's image file (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Texture/GetTexture) |
| 15:52.21 | Arrowmaster | Guest95148: there you go |
| 15:52.52 | SuperPortia | Except I want the texture I've already created |
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| 15:53.28 | Arrowmaster | that will return the path to the texture |
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| 15:53.54 | SuperPortia | ah |
| 15:54.04 | SuperPortia | From the path, how do I get back to the button? |
| 15:54.12 | SuperPortia | r/button/texture |
| 15:54.23 | Arrowmaster | oh you are trying to get a reference to the texture |
| 15:54.28 | SuperPortia | That or change it's visibility |
| 15:54.37 | SuperPortia | I created one and then later I want it to go away |
| 15:55.22 | Arrowmaster | try button:GetRegions() |
| 15:55.57 | Arrowmaster | or better yet |
| 15:56.23 | Arrowmaster | when you call button:CreateTexture() instead do texture = button:CreateTexture() |
| 15:56.29 | karl_w_w | jim carrey is going to be in kick-ass 2 |
| 15:56.34 | Arrowmaster | then you have a reference to the texture |
| 15:56.37 | karl_w_w | could be... interesting |
| 16:02.06 | SuperPortia | createTexture |
| 16:02.17 | SuperPortia | CreateTexture |
| 16:02.24 | SuperPortia | How do you get the bot to respond? |
| 16:02.35 | Vlad| | CreateTexture is a widget API meaning you need to make a parent object first to hold it :P |
| 16:02.42 | Vlad| | using the global CreateFrame API |
| 16:02.50 | Vlad| | you have many types of widgets to create |
| 16:03.04 | Vlad| | Frame is one |
| 16:03.10 | Vlad| | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CreateFrame |
| 16:03.14 | Vlad| | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets_hierarchy |
| 16:03.19 | Vlad| | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets |
| 16:03.20 | Vlad| | :P |
| 16:03.23 | Vlad| | should get you going |
| 16:04.00 | karl_w_w | ~lart SuperPortia |
| 16:04.00 | purl | forces SuperPortia to use Outlook Express |
| 16:04.36 | Vlad| | ~moon karl_w_w |
| 16:04.36 | purl | ACTION drops his pants and shows karl_w_w a full moon. karl_w_w drops over dead at the sight. |
| 16:04.52 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dear. |
| 16:06.19 | Vlad| | work in an hour |
| 16:06.19 | TC-work | see, there purl uses 'he' |
| 16:06.22 | Vlad| | *breathe* |
| 16:06.28 | Vlad| | purl is a guy yes :P |
| 16:06.35 | TC-work | purl is an it |
| 16:06.44 | TC-work | but most people here call it a 'her' |
| 16:07.05 | Vlad| | can it use his when talking about itself? |
| 16:07.27 | TC-work | That will just confuse people even more |
| 16:07.39 | TC-work | and people are already so easily confused |
| 16:07.53 | Vlad| | purl, who is the fairest of them all |
| 16:07.53 | purl | Vlad|: what are you talking about? |
| 16:07.56 | Vlad| | :P |
| 16:08.11 | TC-work | Take for example people here in Los Angeles. Water falls from the sky and people act like it is the end of the world. |
| 16:08.14 | Lopeppeppy | Purl is a girl. *sigh* |
| 16:08.23 | Vlad| | ~moon Lopeppeppy |
| 16:08.23 | purl | ACTION drops his pants and shows Lopeppeppy a full moon. Lopeppeppy drops over dead at the sight. |
| 16:08.53 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe the "his" is your pants, Vlad. |
| 16:09.03 | Vlad| | maybe |
| 16:09.06 | karl_w_w | purl is whatever it needs to be |
| 16:09.07 | nevcairiel | in that sentence, purl can only be a he, i dont think a girl would moon :p |
| 16:09.09 | Vlad| | but I am already pants-less |
| 16:09.26 | Vlad| | about to go in the shower, if you know what I mean ;) |
| 16:09.42 | TC-work | oh, there are indeed girls that would moon |
| 16:10.00 | karl_w_w | essex girls |
| 16:10.30 | TC-work | i don't think he meant 'mooning over guys' |
| 16:11.12 | Vlad| | purl, what is purl |
| 16:11.12 | purl | it has been said that purl is arrogant |
| 16:12.39 | Vlad| | purl, where is Torhal? |
| 16:12.39 | purl | [torhal] some long-haired freak who re-writes all of Ackis' code. |
| 16:12.46 | Vlad| | I said where, not who :P |
| 16:13.05 | Vlad| | purl is kind of weird |
| 16:13.11 | Vlad| | purl, you are weird |
| 16:13.11 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, Vlad| |
| 16:14.55 | Lopeppeppy | ~botsnack |
| 16:14.55 | purl | aw, gee, Lopeppeppy |
| 16:15.06 | Vlad| | purl, who is Lopeppeppy |
| 16:15.06 | purl | I'm a ventrol-lol-iquist-er-izer. -- Lopeppeppy |
| 16:15.28 | Vlad| | no purl, Lopeppeppy is a lunatic |
| 16:15.35 | Vlad| | purl, Lopeppeppy is a lunatic |
| 16:15.35 | purl | ...but lopeppeppy is already something else... |
| 16:15.51 | TC-work | it's not nice to change other peoples factoids |
| 16:15.54 | Vlad| | I cba to play with purl atm |
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| 16:16.27 | Vlad| | I thought it was randomly made. |
| 16:16.38 | TC-work | nope |
| 16:16.40 | TC-work | people add them |
| 16:16.56 | TC-work | well, some are hardcoded |
| 16:17.01 | Vlad| | like? :D |
| 16:17.03 | TC-work | like the wiki one |
| 16:17.07 | TC-work | ~wiki bot |
| 16:17.13 | TC-work | etc. |
| 16:18.08 | Vlad| | purl, who is TC-work |
| 16:18.08 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, Vlad| |
| 16:18.18 | Vlad| | purl doesn't like special characters :P |
| 16:18.29 | TC-work | no, i simply don't have anything |
| 16:18.47 | TC-work | purl, TC-work is <reply> Never working |
| 16:18.47 | purl | okay, TC-work |
| 16:18.52 | TC-work | who is TC-work |
| 16:18.57 | Vlad| | purl, who is TC-work |
| 16:18.57 | purl | Never working |
| 16:19.02 | TC-work | there you go |
| 16:19.19 | TC-work | purl forget TC-work |
| 16:19.19 | purl | TC-work: i forgot tc-work |
| 16:19.30 | Vlad| | purl, remember TC-work |
| 16:19.31 | purl | How can i forget about TC-work ? That person is the greatest <fill in whatever is appropriate> in the whole wide world ! |
| 16:19.35 | Vlad| | :D |
| 16:21.31 | Vlad| | flee while cairen is locking on her target! |
| 16:21.38 | Cairenn | heh |
| 16:22.05 | SuperPortia | Ok, this texture thing is annoying me now |
| 16:22.10 | Vlad| | Portia |
| 16:22.23 | Arrowmaster | http://imgur.com/NkRPY |
| 16:22.27 | SuperPortia | So does adding the texture allow me to reference later in the object tree. |
| 16:22.34 | Vlad| | you have to store your frame:CreateTexture() if you want to reference it |
| 16:22.52 | Vlad| | tex = frame:CreateTexture() |
| 16:22.57 | Vlad| | tex -- your texture |
| 16:23.06 | SuperPortia | Yeah, I've got like a hundred of them. |
| 16:23.15 | SuperPortia | Each on a hundred different buttons |
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| 16:27.00 | Vlad| | I am not sure what you are doing, if you have some issues I recommend having a pastey link and info on your issue so we can take a peak and try to help :P |
| 16:27.25 | SuperPortia | Got it |
| 16:27.32 | SuperPortia | I think |
| 16:27.43 | SuperPortia | Basic, not wrapping head around lua -- thing |
| 16:28.22 | SuperPortia | Yep got it |
| 16:30.12 | Vlad| | http://imgur.com/r/gaming/NUNrh |
| 16:30.22 | Vlad| | play with it for a while, you'll learn ;) |
| 16:35.18 | TC-work | But it will make you go blind |
| 16:36.44 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:36.52 | SuperPortia | Well I got it partially working. Now my overlays aren't scrolling with the rest of the buttons. |
| 16:37.55 | Mr_Rabies | argh i wish the commendations had a bit more visbility in which ones you've used |
| 16:38.32 | chiel | same lol |
| 16:38.42 | Mr_Rabies | like, just an "already known" |
| 16:38.43 | Mr_Rabies | would work |
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| 16:56.18 | SuperPortia | Is there any way to respond to a scroll update? |
| 16:57.58 | Dagmar | Indignaton might work. |
| 16:58.11 | SuperPortia | Somehow I doubt that. |
| 16:58.35 | SuperPortia | Part of the problem is that my stuff isn't getting called to show or hide things after a scroll. |
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| 17:06.49 | Vlad| | @work |
| 17:08.06 | Semlar | yes you can respond to a scroll update, but i don't think you should have to |
| 17:08.39 | Semlar | the textures you're creating should be children of the buttons and should be getting hidden along with them |
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| 17:12.23 | Semlar | although i guess the contents of the buttons are probably changing huh |
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| 17:14.54 | Semlar | i think it's calling MountJournal_UpdateMountList every time it gets updated |
| 17:15.24 | SuperPortia | When that method gets called my stuff gets updated. |
| 17:15.34 | SuperPortia | However it doesn't call it as it scrolls. |
| 17:15.45 | SuperPortia | It does call it on click events and periodically |
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| 17:16.07 | SuperPortia | Now the pet journal doesn't have this problem, but uses XML to do it (though that may not matter) |
| 17:16.12 | Semlar | i don't have enough mounts on the ptr to get a scrollbar |
| 17:16.53 | SuperPortia | http://pastebin.com/tWKedxAJ |
| 17:18.05 | SuperPortia | That's my crack at it after 4 hours. |
| 17:18.34 | Semlar | looks good but you might want to localize the functions |
| 17:18.43 | SuperPortia | Hmm |
| 17:18.44 | SuperPortia | ? |
| 17:19.01 | SuperPortia | For other languages? |
| 17:19.05 | pompy | local not public |
| 17:19.10 | Semlar | just like local function ToggleFavorite(spellID) or something |
| 17:19.12 | SuperPortia | Oh |
| 17:19.19 | Semlar | instead of function MountFavorites_ToggleFavorite |
| 17:19.30 | SuperPortia | I started out with local versions, but it got ungainly |
| 17:19.38 | SuperPortia | I may go back afterwards |
| 17:19.46 | Semlar | it's up to you |
| 17:20.18 | SuperPortia | I do a lot of functional programming in C# and it's always a gut check on any given function whether or not to localize it. |
| 17:21.22 | Semlar | the more local something is in lua the faster it is to access it |
| 17:21.29 | Semlar | not that it makes much difference |
| 17:22.22 | Semlar | the main reason i do it is so i can use whatever variable names i want without possibly causing a conflict |
| 17:23.04 | SuperPortia | So how do you think that the PetJournal gets away without a scrolling issue, but I'm getting one. |
| 17:24.32 | Semlar | oh it's a real scroll frame |
| 17:24.42 | Semlar | i thought it was just changing the contents of the buttons |
| 17:25.22 | SuperPortia | So because I'm just tagging the buttons, I'm getting whatever view of overlays I had when they first applied. |
| 17:27.19 | Semlar | i don't know |
| 17:27.45 | Semlar | i'm experimenting with the petjournal because i don't have enough mounts to scroll with |
| 17:28.15 | Semlar | the icons appear to scroll fine |
| 17:30.16 | SuperPortia | The added ones? |
| 17:32.08 | Semlar | well it's quite difficult to tell because every icon gets a star, let me change this |
| 17:33.11 | Semlar | alright you're right they don't scroll |
| 17:34.12 | Semlar | let me try and see what the hybrid scrollframe uses to update its contents |
| 17:34.21 | SuperPortia | alright |
| 17:36.34 | Semlar | it's the call they make to HybridScrollFrame_Update(scrollFrame, totalHeight, scrollFrame:GetHeight()) |
| 17:36.52 | SuperPortia | Yeah I saw that. |
| 17:37.25 | Semlar | it must handle updating itself on scroll though |
| 17:38.14 | Semlar | HybridScrollFrame_OnMouseWheel |
| 17:38.50 | Semlar | there must be a better way to do this than hooking that |
| 17:41.34 | SuperPortia | That did it though |
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| 17:43.47 | chiel | hm.. is there any way not to cause lua errors if someone joins your party while in combat? |
| 17:43.50 | chiel | (in oUF) |
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| 17:45.51 | chiel | cause when my party updates, it seems to bug out always, and lua errors appear |
| 17:46.11 | SuperPortia | I imagine it would depend on what you're doing. |
| 17:46.25 | Semlar | well you can't create secure frames in combat |
| 17:46.53 | Semlar | but it's not like it would be difficult for it to detect that you're in combat and not try |
| 17:49.09 | Shirik | ^ |
| 17:49.17 | Shirik | it never depends on what you're doing |
| 17:49.25 | Shirik | "is there any way not to cause lua errors" - the answer is always yes |
| 17:50.21 | chiel | hmm right, so there's no way I can update my party frames in combat? |
| 17:51.01 | End_ | the set up required to make party frames show/hide in combat should have been handled before you enter combat |
| 17:51.13 | SuperPortia | updated version: http://pastebin.com/JbRg0kji |
| 17:51.30 | chiel | hmm, I oUF:SpawnHeader to achieve the party frames |
| 17:51.31 | End_ | and oUF base code should be helpful for handling that, but I haven't really touched oUF much |
| 17:52.29 | chiel | hmm yeah, well a lot of the times you see checks if people are in combat, if so, they attach an event to PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED (iirc), and then call it again |
| 17:52.38 | Semlar | superportia: hooksecurefunc(PetJournal.listScroll, 'SetVerticalScroll', function() print('ScrollyTime') end) might be slightly better than hooking the other thing |
| 17:53.30 | Semlar | since it'll only get called for that scroll frame |
| 17:53.45 | Semlar | oh well not petjournal but you know the mountjournal one |
| 17:53.47 | SuperPortia | I at least limited the execution to that scroll frame. |
| 17:53.51 | SuperPortia | Ueah |
| 17:53.52 | SuperPortia | Yea |
| 17:56.10 | chiel | haste: is there any way at all with oUF to update party frames in combat? |
| 17:56.34 | SuperPortia | Yep |
| 17:56.35 | Semlar | actually end_ is right, all of the unit frames should already be created |
| 17:56.58 | Semlar | so that shouldn't be the problem |
| 17:57.02 | SuperPortia | Semlar:Yep |
| 17:57.15 | chiel | Semlar: hm, you mean when I spawn them when the addon loads, essentially? |
| 17:57.30 | chiel | I did observe that with bossframes, they get created when I login |
| 17:57.39 | chiel | and only show up when there are actually bossframes to be shown |
| 17:57.44 | Semlar | well, you know how many party and raid members there can be |
| 17:57.58 | Semlar | and i think you can even show and hide them in combat under certain conditions |
| 17:58.10 | End_ | yea |
| 17:58.13 | Semlar | so i don't know why it wouldn't be able to handle someone joining |
| 17:58.30 | chiel | hmm |
| 17:58.51 | chiel | it calls out an error while attempting to perform arithmetic on some variable which is nil |
| 17:58.56 | End_ | oh |
| 17:58.58 | chiel | but that's in oUF, not in my code |
| 17:59.10 | Semlar | could be your code is responsible though |
| 17:59.14 | chiel | so i wonder if it's my error or oUF... maybe I should download the latest vrsion of oUF |
| 17:59.16 | End_ | it might be still caused by your code giving oUF something that confuses it |
| 17:59.17 | chiel | yeah, I realise that |
| 17:59.19 | chiel | yep |
| 17:59.24 | chiel | I will debug a little |
| 17:59.52 | SuperPortia | Can you do a: fuction(x, y) return x == y end |
| 17:59.55 | End_ | haste is around on irc a bit, but you might want to post on wowinterface if you want specific help |
| 18:00.10 | SuperPortia | Or do you have to do if (x == y) return true else return false end |
| 18:00.15 | End_ | you can do the former |
| 18:01.30 | chiel | yeah, haste has helped me a lot already, he must be getting sick of me, haha |
| 18:01.58 | SuperPortia | Is there any way to retrieve companion data from it's name or spellID rather than it's index? |
| 18:02.17 | End_ | not directly |
| 18:02.19 | Semlar | what data do you need |
| 18:02.30 | End_ | well, I guess you can some info from spellid |
| 18:02.46 | Semlar | you could get its name from the spellid at least |
| 18:03.07 | Semlar | icon |
| 18:03.10 | End_ | yea |
| 18:03.23 | SuperPortia | Actually I'm not sure I need it. |
| 18:03.49 | SuperPortia | So the last step of my MountFavorites add-on is to resort the favorites on top. |
| 18:05.14 | SuperPortia | That just requires grabbing the companion information and resorting the list based on favorites. |
| 18:08.13 | Shirik | what |
| 18:08.18 | Shirik | (10:00:00) (SuperPortia) Or do you have to do if (x == y) return true else return false end |
| 18:08.20 | Shirik | why would you do this |
| 18:08.25 | Fisker | https://www.humblebundle.com/ |
| 18:08.28 | TC-work | "Dry-Mounting a Scorpion" I already don't want to see that instructable |
| 18:08.35 | Shirik | oh that was a question |
| 18:08.37 | Shirik | no you don't |
| 18:08.41 | Shirik | you can return x ==y |
| 18:08.52 | Lopeppeppy | ... TC that kink sounds... desperate and painful. |
| 18:08.52 | Semlar | SHIRIK |
| 18:08.57 | End_ | slowrik |
| 18:09.02 | Shirik | hi |
| 18:09.05 | Shirik | also |
| 18:09.06 | TC-work | Lopeppeppy: something like that |
| 18:09.26 | TC-work | Fisker: I already own almost all of them :( |
| 18:09.36 | Shirik | --> t = setmetatable({}, {__eq = function() return 1; end}); return t == t; |
| 18:09.36 | batbot | Shirik: > true |
| 18:09.48 | Fisker | me too TC-work |
| 18:09.56 | End_ | I think I only don't own one of those |
| 18:10.13 | Shirik | I don't own any |
| 18:11.04 | Shirik | none of those look interestin |
| 18:11.59 | chiel | aha |
| 18:12.00 | chiel | now I get... |
| 18:12.02 | TC-work | get wider tastes Shirik |
| 18:12.36 | chiel | "ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED tried to call protected function oUF_aelUFPartyUnitButton1:SetSize() |
| 18:12.52 | chiel | I think I might know how this is solved |
| 18:15.11 | Adys | kd3: "Also affects CoD Black Ops II." |
| 18:15.15 | Adys | and nothing of value was lost |
| 18:16.16 | Lopeppeppy | Holy shit I just crossed a procrastinating client off the "to do" list. Throw a party, peeps! |
| 18:16.34 | chiel | sweeeet it fixed :D |
| 18:16.40 | chiel | I fixed it* |
| 18:16.57 | durcyn | Lopeppeppy: should I buy stock in quicklime and shovel manufacturers? |
| 18:17.54 | TC-work | Lopeppeppy: is that because you did the client? |
| 18:18.15 | Adys | [18:15:08] <Lopeppeppy> Holy shit I just crossed a procrastinating client off the "to do" list. |
| 18:18.16 | Adys | well now |
| 18:18.24 | Adys | that could mean several different things. |
| 18:19.02 | Semlar | superportia did you need any help with sorting the table |
| 18:19.49 | SuperPortia | I'm assuming there are built in sort functions for tables. |
| 18:20.12 | Semlar | you can feed table.sort a compare function |
| 18:20.50 | durcyn | there's no default compare function, no |
| 18:21.04 | durcyn | just calling table.sort() won't get you much |
| 18:21.12 | Lopeppeppy | durcyn, the correct order is... dirt, lime, body, lime, dirt, lime, dirt, glass, dirt, roadkill, dirt. |
| 18:21.21 | Lopeppeppy | Ahem. |
| 18:21.36 | durcyn | Lopeppeppy: where's the coconut go? |
| 18:21.46 | TC-work | It's not a drink |
| 18:21.49 | Lopeppeppy | In my margarita afterward. |
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| 18:27.50 | SuperPortia | Can you concatenate two tables? |
| 18:27.55 | SuperPortia | I imagine not. |
| 18:28.00 | SuperPortia | Or at least not easily. |
| 18:28.28 | TC-work | odd....I read that as "Can you concatenate two babies".....I think i need more sleep |
| 18:28.52 | Unkle | TC-work Caffeine. The answer is always either Caffeine or Diabetes. |
| 18:28.54 | durcyn | newtable={}; for k,v in pairs(table1) do newtable[k]=v end; for k,v in pairs(table2) do newtable[k]=v end |
| 18:31.01 | chiel | so, the problem was that I did not pass the InitialConfigFunction in |
| 18:31.06 | SuperPortia | I want them to be re-ordered |
| 18:31.25 | chiel | what does it mean in lua when you pass a function body as [[ ]] ? |
| 18:31.41 | Semlar | literal? |
| 18:32.33 | Semlar | that's how you make a literal string |
| 18:33.39 | Semlar | like if you didn't want to escape backslashes or something you could do asdf = [[Interface\ICONS\INV_Mushroom_11]] |
| 18:33.44 | chiel | ah I see |
| 18:33.45 | chiel | hmm |
| 18:34.11 | chiel | oh well, no matter, it worked :p |
| 18:34.14 | chiel | now to make raid frames hehe |
| 18:34.25 | chiel | ideally I'd want to size the raid frames based on the raid size though |
| 18:34.30 | chiel | but I don't know if that's possible. |
| 18:34.57 | Semlar | the size will be locked once you're in combat |
| 18:35.04 | chiel | hmm |
| 18:35.14 | chiel | right, but I guess I can track size changes outside of combat |
| 18:35.19 | chiel | and then somehow... re-render or whatevr. |
| 18:35.23 | chiel | +e |
| 18:35.51 | Semlar | you'll have to make sure you don't try and resize them if someone joins in combat |
| 18:35.57 | chiel | yeah |
| 18:36.03 | durcyn | SuperPortia: in that case, just table.insert(newtable,v) instead of resuing the previous tables' keys |
| 18:36.08 | chiel | well, I'd mainly want to resize upon raid-size changing |
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| 18:37.01 | Semlar | you mean between 10 and 25 man |
| 18:37.25 | chiel | yeah |
| 18:38.02 | chiel | if the group grows beyond that (40man bg etc).. then I guess resize manually |
| 18:42.33 | SuperPortia | Is there anything that protects the WoW client from add-ons that hang it? |
| 18:42.43 | bleeter | if the coders from blizz who sped up AH GetAll by... stupid amounts... are in here you may have huuuge hugs from me :) |
| 18:43.15 | bleeter | fwiw, Auctioneer's now scanning (it'd seem) ~1k auctions per second via GetAll |
| 18:43.43 | bleeter | my AH's 15k auction takes about 12 seconds now, instead of a minute or two |
| 18:43.54 | Semlar | they added something that terminates slow functions in combat i think |
| 18:44.19 | Semlar | i haven't managed to get it to stop any of my functions |
| 18:44.40 | durcyn | the execution timeout in combat is lowered quite a bit, yeah |
| 18:44.43 | Unkle | SuperPortia No particular mechansims aside from the "too many errors" logic that asks you to disable AddOns. The scripting sandbox can still be abused to make the game hang/crash but outright crashing it is harder than hanging it. |
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| 18:45.08 | Semlar | psh, speak for yourself |
| 18:45.14 | Semlar | i crash the client all the time |
| 18:45.28 | Semlar | i have a gift |
| 18:45.35 | Unkle | You shovel well? |
| 18:46.26 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, a good hanging. Haven't seen one of those in years. |
| 18:46.38 | Semlar | i'm gonna need more rope |
| 18:51.26 | SuperPortia | Trying to diagnose my hang. |
| 18:51.34 | SuperPortia | It hangs when it gets to the bottom of the list. |
| 18:52.19 | Semlar | are you displaying lua errors |
| 18:52.32 | SuperPortia | I've got swatter up |
| 18:52.37 | SuperPortia | But that's it. |
| 18:52.43 | SuperPortia | http://pastebin.com/nB2v7Ly4 |
| 18:53.09 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avbguqNoTWc first one is pretty amazing |
| 18:57.29 | bleeter | haha I just crashed the client |
| 18:57.31 | bleeter | somehow |
| 18:57.51 | SuperPortia | Any thoughts Semlar? |
| 18:57.58 | Semlar | it doesn't hang for me |
| 18:58.01 | SuperPortia | hmm |
| 18:58.06 | Semlar | but i don't have enough mounts to fill the list |
| 18:58.08 | SuperPortia | But you don't have enough mounts to scroll |
| 18:58.10 | SuperPortia | Yeah |
| 18:59.14 | Semlar | your hook for setverticalscroll doesn't need to check self:GetName() |
| 18:59.49 | Semlar | i think it could just be hooksecurefunc(MountJournal.ListScrollFrame, 'SetVerticalScroll', MountFavorites_Initialize) |
| 18:59.52 | SuperPortia | I know. There's some additional clean up and optimization work that needs to be done. |
| 19:00.46 | Semlar | oh |
| 19:01.26 | SuperPortia | But "fixed" all the same. |
| 19:01.27 | Semlar | you probably shouldn't be creating a dropdown frame every time you scroll either |
| 19:04.37 | SuperPortia | http://pastebin.com/q4cFSiD1 |
| 19:06.29 | Semlar | button:SetScript('OnClick') is throwing an error because it isn't being defined |
| 19:06.43 | Semlar | should be inside of a loop |
| 19:07.24 | SuperPortia | http://pastebin.com/JZWG7WKj |
| 19:07.33 | SuperPortia | Yeah, caught that as soon as you said it. |
| 19:08.27 | Semlar | doesn't appear to be getting sorted any more |
| 19:09.18 | SuperPortia | quick fix: move f.mountsSorted = MountFavorites_GetMountsSorted() from the onevent to the top of the MountFavorites_Initialize |
| 19:10.23 | Semlar | does it still hang for you? |
| 19:10.29 | SuperPortia | yeah |
| 19:10.37 | Semlar | only when you hit the bottom of the list? |
| 19:10.46 | SuperPortia | yeah |
| 19:11.40 | SuperPortia | I took out |
| 19:11.41 | SuperPortia | --local totalHeight = numMounts * 46 -- mount button height --HybridScrollFrame_Update(scrollFrame, totalHeight, scrollFrame:GetHeight()); |
| 19:11.45 | SuperPortia | and it's no longer hanging |
| 19:11.52 | Semlar | yeah i was looking at those |
| 19:12.04 | Semlar | but i'm trying to figure out why it would hang |
| 19:12.37 | Semlar | maybe it's stuck in a loop and calling this function when hybridscrollframe_update is called |
| 19:12.40 | SuperPortia | Some recursive set of calls probably when the list is at the bottom |
| 19:13.07 | Semlar | you could hook hybridscrollframe_update to print |
| 19:14.21 | Semlar | or i guess just put print in your initialize function |
| 19:14.42 | Semlar | so you can see when it's called |
| 19:15.07 | Semlar | that also should not be inside of the loop with the buttons |
| 19:15.13 | Semlar | it should at least be outside of that |
| 19:15.45 | Semlar | right now it's calling the update function for every single button in the list |
| 19:18.34 | SuperPortia | Is the git-hub stuff updated to 5.1? |
| 19:18.43 | SuperPortia | Apparently not |
| 19:18.45 | SuperPortia | Hmm |
| 19:18.53 | mikma | http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/20/watch-a-wind-powered-childs-toy-evolve-into-a-low-cost-minefield-clearing-machine/ |
| 19:19.14 | Semlar | no i think i linked to the beta stuff |
| 19:20.09 | Semlar | https://github.com/Ketho/wow-ui-source/tree/ptr/AddOns/Blizzard_PetJournal this might be more up to date |
| 19:22.07 | Semlar | do you need to modify the button so much if you're just toggling an icon based on the spellid |
| 19:22.43 | Semlar | it seems like you just need to read the spell id but you're setting a bunch of stuff |
| 19:23.48 | SuperPortia | I dont' need to reset index, but I believe I need to set text, icon, and spellID |
| 19:23.54 | Semlar | if it's because of the sort function i think all you have to do is reorder the buttons and tell it to update the scrollframe and it'll work |
| 19:24.05 | mikma | cairenn: http://vimeo.com/53914149 |
| 19:24.20 | Cairenn | nice |
| 19:24.30 | SuperPortia | The list is a virtual one I believe. |
| 19:24.41 | SuperPortia | So I only have a small number of buttons at a time. |
| 19:24.44 | SuperPortia | Say 10-12 |
| 19:25.03 | Cairenn | they're amazing |
| 19:25.57 | Semlar | for example table.sort(MountJournal.ListScrollFrame.buttons, function(a,b) return a.index > b.index end); MountJournal_UpdateMountList() |
| 19:26.08 | Semlar | is all it takes to reverse the list |
| 19:26.31 | SuperPortia | I think that will only work for the mounts that are visible. |
| 19:27.01 | Semlar | does that matter |
| 19:27.23 | SuperPortia | Well you would get G-A, H-Z kind of stuff. |
| 19:27.33 | SuperPortia | Wherever the breakpoint of visible was. |
| 19:28.38 | Semlar | well there's probably a way to get all of the items |
| 19:29.16 | Semlar | i just mean you shouldn't need to actually SET the values of any of the buttons, just manipulate their indexes |
| 19:30.38 | chiel | hm |
| 19:30.47 | chiel | what does it mean when an item is "Elite" nowadays? |
| 19:31.01 | SuperPortia | Is there a way to change the return value of a function using hooks? |
| 19:31.32 | Semlar | you can replace a function with your own but that is usually a bad idea |
| 19:31.39 | durcyn | chiel: the first encounter in terace has multiple orders you can kill it, doing the hardest gives "elite" gear a half-tier higher than the others |
| 19:31.57 | chiel | ah I see |
| 19:32.10 | chiel | so you could get elite-heroic as well? |
| 19:32.23 | durcyn | it's tagged "Heroic Elite", yeah |
| 19:32.33 | chiel | right yeah |
| 19:33.05 | durcyn | same thing they should've done years ago with bug trio imo, but now it finally gives better gear, not just different drops |
| 19:33.19 | chiel | yeah that's kinda cool |
| 19:33.41 | chiel | I wouldn't mind those sweet tanking boots off of them :p |
| 19:34.39 | chiel | sadly my guild is not great and we're still getting through msv |
| 19:34.51 | chiel | we only started raiding about 2 weeks ago so it's not all bad i suppose |
| 19:34.59 | Semlar | superportia: to replace a function you could just go like HybridScrollFrame_Update = function(...) doStuff end |
| 19:35.22 | chiel | we need to kill elegon next |
| 19:35.35 | chiel | but the thing that's weakest in our raids, is the dps |
| 19:35.38 | chiel | so... gl with that xD |
| 19:35.41 | Semlar | but if you replace a function it taints it which could cause problems |
| 19:40.28 | Semlar | this is probably fine, i might be wrong about being able to just reorder it without making the buttons yourself |
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| 20:32.58 | kd3 | ...seriously? the humble thq bundle? |
| 20:33.02 | kd3 | is disappoint |
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| 20:34.36 | Elkano | and SR3 can't be activated in Ger :/ |
| 20:35.20 | Elkano | (or well, with tricks it can but you're breaking the EULA with them) |
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| 20:38.04 | Unkle | In which I'm a jerk: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7199033486?page=1#9 |
| 20:38.10 | chiel | hm, is it possible to see how many *groups* there are in the current raid? |
| 20:38.26 | Stanzilla | no |
| 20:38.28 | chiel | like for example I have 2 people in the raid, but they're split over group 1 and 2, for example |
| 20:38.38 | Shadowed | Yes there are |
| 20:38.48 | chiel | hmm, k, guess i would have to loop the units/groups and see if there is |
| 20:38.50 | Shadowed | Iterate over all raid members, check their group, keep a list of those groups. |
| 20:38.52 | Shadowed | correct |
| 20:39.14 | chiel | cool, thanks.. and then on GROUP_ROSTER_UPDATE (or whatever it's called), I could do that again |
| 20:39.21 | Shadowed | yup |
| 20:39.54 | chiel | alright cool, I'll give that a go, thank you |
| 20:39.59 | Shadowed | np |
| 20:40.17 | chiel | but I guess you can only do the looping outside of combat.. hmm |
| 20:40.23 | Shadowed | wat |
| 20:40.34 | chiel | or is that only when trying to resize etc |
| 20:40.34 | Semlar | no |
| 20:40.38 | Shadowed | wat |
| 20:41.09 | Semlar | there's nothing stopping you from getting information about the units in your raid in combat |
| 20:41.10 | Shadowed | secure lockdown is *only* about UIObjects that are secure. Some functions might also be locked down while in combat, but at this point that's kind of rare |
| 20:41.23 | chiel | okay fair enough :) |
| 20:41.25 | Shadowed | and the lockdown on the UIObjects are basically things that would let you make smart buttons |
| 20:41.29 | Shadowed | such as height/width/show/hide |
| 20:41.32 | chiel | i'm still fairly new to this so :p |
| 20:41.37 | chiel | hm okay, fair enough |
| 20:41.38 | Semlar | the reason you can't resize the raid frames in combat is because you could exploit that |
| 20:42.02 | chiel | basically what i want to do is size my raid frames depending on how many people there are, so they will fit into the same space. |
| 20:42.17 | Unkle | Like... resize frames to 0,0 when someone moves out of range, etc. :) |
| 20:42.22 | chiel | in an IoC for example, I'm not that likely to care what's happening around me (since I play a warrior) |
| 20:42.35 | Shadowed | So you want to do dynamic resizing of the raid frame boxes? |
| 20:42.42 | Shadowed | and I assume you're using the secure group headers? |
| 20:42.43 | chiel | yeah, pretty much |
| 20:42.46 | chiel | I am yeah |
| 20:42.52 | chiel | am I fucked? |
| 20:43.13 | Shadowed | No but doing what you want in a secure way is convoluted |
| 20:43.26 | Shadowed | I would just do it while OOC and if it happens while in combat, queue it until OOC |
| 20:43.47 | chiel | hm right, so not use secure headers at all? |
| 20:43.54 | Shadowed | no, you would do it with secure headers still |
| 20:44.07 | chiel | right, but the updating/resizing, would be done OOC, or queued |
| 20:44.18 | Shadowed | If you really want to do it in a secure way. You need to look at secure snippets, you'll want to set it up so that when the group changes, it triggers the secure snippet and then resizes it based on the number of visible raid frame members. |
| 20:44.29 | chiel | hmm |
| 20:44.37 | chiel | i haven't run into secure snippets yet sadly |
| 20:44.41 | Shadowed | That's about the extent I'll go into it, you'll need to figure it out, but it's possible to do it in the secure system |
| 20:44.44 | Shadowed | but it's going to be a lot more convoluted |
| 20:44.53 | chiel | i'll just take the easy way out for now, haha |
| 20:44.59 | Shadowed | so unless you really really want it to work in combat, I wouldn't bother |
| 20:44.59 | chiel | it's purely for my own use |
| 20:45.10 | chiel | just trying to get the hang of lua etc |
| 20:45.31 | Shadowed | The secure snippets stuff is probably the most convoluted area of the secure system |
| 20:45.39 | Shadowed | very powerful, but convoluted |
| 20:45.44 | chiel | i am not too fussed about the resizing working in combat, then I only care about new people actually showing up |
| 20:46.07 | Unkle | the $1000+ tablet is here, and it's name is Surface Pro. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/11/x86-surface-pro-899-for-64gb-99-for-128gb-no-keyboard-included/ |
| 20:47.00 | Arrowmaster | wasnt the ipad already close to $1000 |
| 20:47.21 | Shadowed | no not really |
| 20:47.46 | Shadowed | you would have to buy 64GB with cellular to get to $820 |
| 20:48.01 | Unkle | No. The Top end iPad was about $700 |
| 20:48.14 | Shadowed | and I don't see any mention of if that has cellular or just wifi |
| 20:48.15 | Unkle | Yeah, cell. I always forget cell |
| 20:48.38 | Shadowed | baseline ipads are $500, most people will probably not spend more than $600 |
| 20:49.12 | Arrowmaster | and yet an n7 with cell is 299 |
| 20:49.14 | Unkle | To be fair - the Surfcae Pro is more "laptop replacement" than "current tablet paradigm" |
| 20:49.27 | Shadowed | Two different things |
| 20:50.03 | Unkle | the n7 is a different beast than the iPad retina models. |
| 20:50.10 | Arrowmaster | yeah its better |
| 20:50.18 | Shadowed | rolleyes |
| 20:50.36 | Arrowmaster | i carry mine everywhere, its great |
| 20:51.29 | TC-work | at 2 pounds it's not bad for a full OS |
| 20:51.39 | TC-work | though i do wonder about battery life |
| 20:54.53 | Arrowmaster | TC-work: lasts twice as long as any laptop |
| 20:55.19 | TC-work | Arrowmaster: I was talking about the surface pro, unless the n7 has a proper os |
| 20:55.56 | Arrowmaster | you can put full linux on it |
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| 20:57.09 | TC-work | which flavour? |
| 21:00.11 | Arrowmaster | ubuntu is the one people have been working on |
| 21:02.30 | End_ | huh I have darkmoon balloon appearing in my spellbook |
| 21:02.37 | End_ | I don't think it's supposed to be there |
| 21:02.53 | End_ | it's also in my petjournal, where I expected it |
| 21:33.53 | Semlar | it's also right behind you, where you least suspect it |
| 21:36.54 | haste | chiel: there are certain functions that are protected in combat, you can't call them from insecure code |
| 21:40.04 | chiel | haste: hmm, the [[ ]] block you are passing to the oUF:SpawnHeader() function, that's executed in a secure way, i'm guessing? |
| 21:40.19 | haste | it is |
| 21:40.41 | chiel | cool, but only once it seems right? |
| 21:41.07 | haste | you can do secure stuff yourself as well |
| 21:41.11 | haste | depending on what you want to do |
| 21:41.35 | chiel | yeah, Shadowed said it's kinda convoluted though |
| 21:42.05 | chiel | but basically I want to resize raid frames based on the amount of groups |
| 21:42.14 | chiel | so if I have, say, 8 groups |
| 21:42.25 | chiel | it would take up the same amount of space as when I have just 2 |
| 21:42.53 | chiel | I also want to try and do some location checking (for battlegrounds), and automatically set the correct size and such |
| 21:42.55 | haste | just spawn additional frames, with their own visibility settings |
| 21:42.59 | haste | s/frame/raid groups/ |
| 21:43.08 | haste | not optimal ofc, but a lot easier |
| 21:43.27 | chiel | yeah, at the moment I am just looping i -> MAX_RAID_GROUPS as a starting point |
| 21:43.47 | chiel | I guess then on roster_update i'll want to resize them |
| 21:44.17 | haste | if you want to resize, then you need to implement it all through the secure system and not through events |
| 21:44.26 | haste | seeing as you can't do size changes in combat |
| 21:44.41 | chiel | well, i'm not *too* fussed about updating size during combat, as it'll rarely happen |
| 21:44.50 | chiel | so i could wait until out of combat and then update |
| 21:44.59 | haste | yep |
| 21:45.07 | chiel | does only the *player* have to be out of combat for the size update to work? |
| 21:45.14 | chiel | or every single player? |
| 21:45.20 | Gnarfoz | should always just be you |
| 21:45.26 | chiel | ok excellent |
| 21:45.34 | chiel | that I can work with (hopefully xD) |
| 21:45.46 | haste | !api incombatlockdown |
| 21:45.46 | lua_bot | InCombatLockdown: Returns whether the user interface is protected due to combat (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/InCombatLockdown) |
| 21:45.59 | chiel | cool :) |
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| 21:46.42 | chiel | so I guess create a frame, wait for GROUP_ROSTER_UPDATE, attempt to resize, in that function check if InCombatLockdown, if so, create another event to queue the same function again when combat finishes |
| 21:47.16 | haste | pretty much |
| 21:50.56 | chiel | cool, I'm really enjoying myself :D |
| 21:51.40 | chiel | hm |
| 21:51.54 | chiel | _COLORS is nil when I am not in a tag method |
| 21:52.18 | haste | use self.colors on frames and oUF.colors otherwise |
| 21:52.31 | haste | _COLORS is just a dynamic variable for self.colors in tags |
| 21:52.41 | chiel | oh i see |
| 21:52.42 | chiel | thanks |
| 22:04.17 | chiel | hmm, damn |
| 22:04.21 | chiel | trying to fade out dc'd people |
| 22:04.32 | chiel | but it then fades the entire group, for some reason! :D |
| 22:06.37 | chiel | !api UnitIsConnected |
| 22:06.38 | lua_bot | UnitIsConnected: Returns whether a unit is connected (i.e. not Offline) (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitIsConnected) |
| 22:07.20 | chiel | hmm |
| 22:07.26 | chiel | cause as unit, it passes "raid" |
| 22:07.30 | chiel | rather than "raid1" etc |
| 22:07.42 | chiel | i guess as a result of ysing the secure header stuff? |
| 22:07.49 | chiel | haste: ^ |
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| 22:24.17 | chiel | hmm right, I guess it's cause it runs that family once for each raid group I spawn, and it then "clones" that frame I give back for each unit in the group |
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| 23:20.26 | kd3 | yay. [Mystically Epic] |
| 23:20.47 | Unkle | yay1 |
| 23:21.45 | TC-work | Gratz |
| 23:21.50 | TC-work | no idea what that is however |
| 23:26.35 | kd3 | hah. wow what are the ods |
| 23:26.41 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 23:26.42 | kd3 | odds* I'm in an LFR with MrRabies |
| 23:28.52 | durcyn | 1:10000000 obv |
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| 23:31.49 | Vlad| | when will they add "group#" unit? :P |
| 23:32.12 | Vlad| | would eliminate going trough party or raid and just use group :3 |
| 23:32.22 | Vlad| | in some cases that is |
| 23:32.27 | Vlad| | also wtb "nameplate#" units :P |
| 23:36.20 | Vlad| | Torhal: what does "Received from bonus pool" mean in my rewards points log? |
| 23:36.25 | Vlad| | "Rewards Program" :S |
| 23:38.43 | Vlad| | karl Semlar Adys Ackis :( |
| 23:38.47 | Vlad| | anyone :'( |
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| 23:58.59 | chiel | hmm, now I'm getting an error every time I join a heroic group.. :/ |
| 23:59.00 | chiel | how annoying |
