| 00:22.43 | Ackis | torhal steals game card boxes all the time |
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| 00:43.10 | lcd | So on WoW's website, under accounts where you add game time. YOu're supposed to input a game-time card. I entered a trial account code and it added to my account another account. :/ |
| 00:43.16 | lcd | So when I log in I have to choose. |
| 00:43.41 | lcd | Why would that happen if I'm supposed to enter a game-time card? |
| 00:43.49 | lcd | :/ |
| 00:43.57 | Ressy | open a ticket to have them deal with it? |
| 00:43.57 | lcd | files a ticket. |
| 00:44.02 | lcd | yep |
| 00:44.10 | lcd | but still. what a joke |
| 00:45.20 | pompy | Arrowmaster: Prototype 2 blackwatch edition for 360 on sale for $30 .. any good? |
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| 00:58.43 | Gnarfoz | lcd: obviously, that field takes more than just game time codes? "Use this page to redeem game keys, game time codes, game item codes, and pre-paid cards for Battle.net balance." |
| 00:59.14 | Gnarfoz | or is there another one? |
| 00:59.27 | Gnarfoz | (...which might access the same script on the other end, anyway) |
| 00:59.37 | lcd | ah |
| 00:59.45 | lcd | nah I didn't read all of that |
| 00:59.52 | lcd | Said add game time |
| 01:00.03 | lcd | I'm just miffed I have to choose. >.> |
| 01:00.26 | lcd | Hopefully a GM can remove that. |
| 01:00.53 | lcd | I could probably call them too. I bet the call-in queue is pretty long though. |
| 01:01.05 | Gnarfoz | you not reading it doesn't make it not so? o_O |
| 01:01.14 | lcd | I didn't say that. |
| 01:01.22 | Gnarfoz | "I didn't read all of that" |
| 01:01.26 | lcd | No I didn't. |
| 01:01.43 | Gnarfoz | then I don't think I understand what you meant by that (: |
| 01:01.47 | lcd | I don't see your point. |
| 01:02.07 | Gnarfoz | just saying, you sounded confused when it did something you weren't expecting |
| 01:02.12 | Gnarfoz | I was trying to explain why it did |
| 01:02.15 | lcd | right |
| 01:02.19 | Gnarfoz | (because the form is multi-functional) |
| 01:02.25 | lcd | nods. |
| 01:02.30 | lcd | Yeah I didn't realize that. |
| 01:02.39 | lcd | I didn't go back to it to see why. |
| 01:02.40 | Gnarfoz | still doesn't get you any game time |
| 01:02.41 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 01:02.46 | lcd | yeah :( |
| 01:02.50 | Gnarfoz | :( |
| 01:03.29 | lcd | I had a little money left over from when I sent my gfx card back though so I opened a temporary subscription. |
| 01:03.51 | lcd | Temporary as in I'll cancel it next month |
| 01:04.21 | lcd | I need to quit playing for a few weeks and start a subscription the first week of the month when I get payed. |
| 01:04.54 | lcd | That'll set me back pretty far though. :/ |
| 01:05.24 | lcd | The game-time card wasn't even covered in plastic. |
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| 01:32.49 | TC-work | grr...i want to go home |
| 01:38.28 | pompy | then go home. |
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| 01:40.09 | TC-work | despite my boss being in Colorado, He would be somewhat displeased |
| 01:41.34 | BroncoB | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:50.25 | TC-work | You might just want to look at how the addons do it |
| 01:50.33 | Neffi | Orange juice left in a sealed bottle for a while, would it ferment? |
| 01:51.08 | TC-work | Just because it's 'sealed' doesn't mean there is not O2 in it |
| 01:51.25 | TC-work | which i think the sell by date takes into account |
| 01:51.27 | Neffi | Never heard of it happening |
| 01:51.59 | Neffi | But I found a water bottle half-full of OJ and went to empty it. "Explosive decompression" best explains what happened when the cap broke seal. |
| 01:52.18 | Neffi | Shit was violent |
| 01:55.31 | Gnarfoz | BroncoB, TC-work: the addons just click the button for you. it may be possible to squeeze the VERY basic thing into a macro (create frame, register for event, click, and such), but that'd probably be a lot less safe than an addon that does some additional checks like your group status, quality level of the loot in question, etc |
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| 02:13.58 | BroncoB | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:23.51 | TC-work | it |
| 02:25.11 | Neffi | BroncoB: You'd have to click it |
| 02:25.34 | Neffi | You can hack together a script to watch for the frame and do it automatically, but then all you're really doing is condensing addon code into a macro. Just use an addon. |
| 02:25.53 | Neffi | (If you hacked it like that, you'd have to press it once upon login) |
| 02:30.40 | karl_w_w | <TC-work> Now i really want to go to Australia, they have the most wtf of anyone. <- like this :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LilxQYHjUdA |
| 02:31.03 | karl_w_w | highlights Thunder_Child |
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| 02:48.09 | BroncoB | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:49.01 | Neffi | Well the /run command executes a script, same as an addon can |
| 02:49.56 | BroncoB | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:50.50 | BroncoB | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:52.35 | Neffi | What are you trying to achieve exactly? |
| 02:53.00 | BroncoB | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:55.12 | karl_w_w | I'm surprised they haven't gone the other way and made it require a hardware event |
| 02:56.00 | BroncoB | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:56.21 | BroncoB | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:57.00 | karl_w_w | no, they obviously want people to think before they bind otherwise the warnings wouldnt be there |
| 02:57.06 | Neffi | There's no potential for exploit there |
| 02:57.11 | Neffi | No element of gameplay involved |
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| 02:59.06 | Neffi | Honestly the UI should not even alert you if you're not in a group, or you're otherwise the only person that can loot it anyway |
| 02:59.54 | BroncoB | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:01.48 | karl_w_w | annual group meeting? |
| 03:02.40 | BroncoB | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:02.54 | BroncoB | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:03.58 | karl_w_w | not sure why CRZ would make it more difficult |
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| 03:05.21 | Gnarfoz | griefers? you mean pvpers |
| 03:05.24 | karl_w_w | so get somebody to invite you to a different realm |
| 03:05.30 | Gnarfoz | it's a pvp arena after all ^^ |
| 03:06.09 | karl_w_w | yeah, calling it griefing implies you're the only person in the world who wants the trinket |
| 03:06.12 | Gnarfoz | (and yeah, I don't know why they have the popup for solo) |
| 03:06.30 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_w: nice ping, caught that just at the top of the irc client |
| 03:06.58 | BroncoB | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:07.13 | Gnarfoz | that's pvp for you |
| 03:07.22 | Gnarfoz | also, maybe they're helping some other low level out |
| 03:07.56 | BroncoB | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:11.21 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_w: Eh, more about the nature....i mean stupid people are everywhere |
| 03:12.03 | karl_w_w | haha |
| 03:12.17 | karl_w_w | GC sez: "I don't know who is the "most neglected" but we have plans for Draenei." |
| 03:12.48 | karl_w_w | the contradiction being that they wouldn't need plans for the Draenei if they we're neglected |
| 03:18.18 | karl_w_w | s/'re/re'nt/ |
| 03:18.33 | nebula169 | i mean, they can have plans for something without it being neglected |
| 03:18.38 | karl_w_w | yes, fail in the correction of a fail |
| 03:19.48 | karl_w_w | thing is every other race has had something going on at some time or another |
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| 03:21.24 | karl_w_w | even the quieter races like say gnomes had that operation gnomeregan, and the instance itself |
| 03:21.50 | karl_w_w | what have the draenei had? a cameo appearance for prophet velen at the end of sunwell |
| 03:22.01 | karl_w_w | I can't even think of anything else |
| 03:22.17 | Coote | gah, it's been a day from hell. |
| 03:22.49 | Coote | gathered family up for a movie night day before thanksgiving, and when we all gather around the tv, the damn 360 RROD's when I go to turn it on and stream a movie. |
| 03:23.20 | Coote | scared them all off when I went apeshit and hulk smashed the living fuck out of it. looks like no more movie nights. :( |
| 03:23.51 | Ressy | No chance to do the towel trick huh |
| 03:23.54 | Neffi | You've uncovered Microsoft's evil plot to destroy family movie nights |
| 03:24.36 | Coote | buying a PS3 soon, at least $ony stuff isnt trash like m$ usually is. |
| 03:24.46 | karl_w_w | yeah, family movie nights take away time that could be spent sitting in front of their biggest product |
| 03:49.51 | Thunder_Child | 'family movie nights' seems like a silly concept. Watching a movie is not really spending time with someone |
| 03:50.27 | Thunder_Child | the closest you get to interaction is two people going for popcorn at the same time |
| 03:51.52 | karl_w_w | tbh i generally find watching a movie with somebody else hinders the experience |
| 03:52.10 | kd3 | ^, unless I'm not actually 'watching the movie' |
| 03:53.25 | nebula169 | do you sit silent for around two hours when you watch a movie with people you know? sounds boring |
| 03:54.01 | Neffi | Everyone knows the worse the movie, the better it is to watch with another person |
| 03:54.13 | karl_w_w | if i wanted to have a conversation i wouldn't be watching a movie :P |
| 03:54.27 | Neffi | I mean, you'd just look like a lunatic if you were criticizing a movie all to your lonesome |
| 03:54.29 | nebula169 | more mystery science theater, less being boring |
| 03:55.06 | karl_w_w | sure there are some exceptions depending on the type of movie and the people involved |
| 03:55.25 | Neffi | Honestly I like enjoying a movie with somebody else |
| 03:55.38 | karl_w_w | but i can guarantee if you're trying to watch a thriller and there's 3 other people in the room it's not going to be a very fulfilling experience |
| 03:55.43 | Neffi | It was nice to lie with my girl and watch a movie together. When I still had a girl. =| |
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| 05:02.25 | pompy | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/120757-Czech-President-Issues-Appeal-For-Arma-3-Devs :O |
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| 06:47.08 | karl_w_w | these laws that different countries have about not photographing certain buildings are just ridiculous |
| 06:48.12 | karl_w_w | not only are they completely unenforceable because of how easy it is to conceal a camera, but the only people who get caught out because they aren't concealing their camera are people who do it innocently |
| 06:49.08 | karl_w_w | also what can you really learn from a photo of a place, and how is a photo from ground level going to show you more than one from one of the umpteen satellites up there |
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| 07:26.05 | Mr_Rabies | not to mention the blueprints for many buildings are public domain |
| 07:26.14 | Mr_Rabies | depending on the country |
| 07:26.58 | Mr_Rabies | which will tell you way more than any photo could, unless i guess you were conducting espionage for something happening that day |
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| 08:38.02 | zenzio | "@Billy: thanks, I was going to add that comment, but my mother just got out of bed, and she always demands attention. Anyway, even though you meant well, plase don't correct my code." |
| 08:38.41 | Cairenn | ? |
| 08:39.01 | zenzio | comment on a post on Stack Overflow |
| 08:39.03 | zenzio | just amused me |
| 08:39.06 | Cairenn | ah |
| 08:42.18 | Cairenn | I'm pretty sure I already know the answer to this, but is there anyone in here with an amount of medical training? |
| 08:42.31 | Cairenn | needs an opinion |
| 08:43.04 | AcidWeb | Who needs medical traning if you can have cat pic |
| 08:43.05 | AcidWeb | http://imgur.com/cUcZz |
| 08:43.13 | Cairenn | hehhehe |
| 08:43.13 | zenzio | I'm not, but what is the question? |
| 08:44.23 | Cairenn | Just trying to decide whether I should be looking at getting a cab/calling an ambulance and going to the ER tonight, or whether I can wait until the morning then go to a walk-in clinic. Not sure how serious this is. |
| 08:44.59 | zenzio | well that doesn't really sound like a good situation... |
| 08:47.00 | karl_w_w | i know a nurse but i have no idea where she is right now, any help? :P |
| 08:47.07 | Cairenn | heh |
| 09:02.27 | Mr_Rabies | i was in boy scouts and was at one point cpr certified, that's about the extent of my medical training :X |
| 09:02.43 | Cairenn | yeah, mine is about the same |
| 09:02.55 | Mr_Rabies | when in doubt, though |
| 09:02.57 | Fisker | ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
| 09:03.20 | Mr_Rabies | consider the benefits of instant treatment versus it not being treated immediately |
| 09:04.34 | Mr_Rabies | that cat is totally baron ashura AcidWeb |
| 09:06.28 | Mr_Rabies | http://ghostlightning.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/mazinger-shin-mazinger-26-iseult-baron-ashura-tristan.jpg |
| 09:15.11 | Fisker | shoves Mr_Rabies down the stairs |
| 09:15.34 | Mr_Rabies | fisker... |
| 09:15.38 | Mr_Rabies | i am the stairs |
| 09:15.42 | Fisker | hey? |
| 09:17.32 | Mr_Rabies | i think you have a camera in my room fisker |
| 09:17.41 | Mr_Rabies | right as i was getting ready to go to bed i hear mirc beep |
| 09:18.39 | Fisker | :) |
| 09:27.34 | karl_w_w | that is just the most awesome cat in existence |
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| 17:32.01 | mikma | http://imgur.com/a/Ic0JC |
| 17:36.36 | Ressy | I saw a screenshot yesterday, where someone broke open an sd card, to find a microsd card inside. |
| 17:37.18 | nevcairiel | doesnt sound too far-fetched, if demand on SD cards is very low, and you sit on a lot of micro sd cards .. .p |
| 17:37.41 | ZorbaBeta | even more than that - silicon chip manufacturing costs come from two sources |
| 17:37.49 | ZorbaBeta | silicon quantity, and opportunity cost from other people wanting to use the same fab |
| 17:38.20 | ZorbaBeta | if there's a small-transistor fab with space available, it's strictly beneficial to make a smaller chip. you'd actually pay *more* to use older technology that resulted in a larger chip. |
| 17:38.53 | ZorbaBeta | not surprising at all if the only difference between a lot of sd cards and microsd cards is the plastic. |
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| 17:46.49 | nevcairiel | man how i hate US holidays |
| 17:46.57 | nevcairiel | screws with my TV shows! |
| 17:50.46 | karl_w_w | i havent watched any tv in month |
| 17:50.55 | karl_w_w | since august actuallt |
| 17:51.06 | Dark_Elf | thats ok we still like to eat turkey |
| 17:55.55 | Elkano | nev, but it gives us steam sales and thus games we didn't really intend to buy |
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| 17:57.49 | nevcairiel | i rather have my tv shows |
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| 17:59.45 | karl_w_w | im pretty much over steam |
| 18:00.27 | karl_w_w | none of the games seem to pique my interest |
| 18:09.44 | Dark_Elf | torchlight2 for 15 is a good deal |
| 18:17.35 | Elkano | would still wait for last day to get it since it could still show up as daily or flash |
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| 18:51.38 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/qh3qW |
| 18:54.44 | Gnarfoz | can I check if a key is bound to anything? (not just blizzard binds, also overrides and whatnot) |
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| 18:56.13 | nevcairiel | i dont think you can query override bindings |
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| 19:00.30 | Gnarfoz | well, then just the best way there is, I guess? |
| 19:00.43 | Gnarfoz | I just want to know if a key I want to bind to something is already bound to something |
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| 19:10.05 | FailDrain | Hello How do I make a pressable button in world of warcraft? |
| 19:10.12 | FailDrain | like one that I can click and do things with |
| 19:10.28 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/Getting_started_with_writing_addons |
| 19:10.45 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: if you know it off the top of your head, please elucidate ^^ (re: keybinds) |
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| 19:13.23 | FailDrain | kd3 that doesn't really help me that much accept provide me functions and snippets but I need a way to create a clickable button |
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| 19:15.44 | Ackis | FailDrain: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/resources-for-new-authors/ |
| 19:15.50 | kd3 | it's a starting point on how to create addons - you may also want to look at http://www.wowpedia.org/AddOn_programming_introduction and build what you need from there. |
| 19:15.56 | kd3 | and also ackis' link |
| 19:16.31 | Ackis | I think my link links to the wowpedia stuff |
| 19:16.37 | kd3 | yup |
| 19:17.09 | FailDrain | ah ha so it does require an xml file to do onclick stuff |
| 19:17.19 | Ackis | nope it doesn't FailDrain |
| 19:17.42 | Gnarfoz | !api bind |
| 19:17.43 | lua_bot | Found 35 possible matches for 'bind'. Please be more specific or check Google search results: http://is.gd/O6LG29 |
| 19:17.44 | Gnarfoz | !api keybind |
| 19:17.45 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'keybind'. |
| 19:17.46 | Ackis | an aside: I'm an idiot, I've been using normal flight mode on my druid when I could get swift flight form for free :( |
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| 19:21.26 | FailDrain | ahh ha set script |
| 19:21.29 | FailDrain | functions hmm |
| 19:22.39 | Kaelten | happy holidays everyone (for those of you who are celebrating anyway) |
| 19:23.16 | kd3 | meh. dinner's at 4. gotta get to work at 8:30. boo |
| 19:23.28 | Kaelten | damn that sucks |
| 19:23.45 | Kaelten | steam sale has already gotten me once so far |
| 19:23.47 | Ackis | back at you Kaelten :) hope you have a great turkey day |
| 19:23.48 | Kaelten | max payne 3 :/ |
| 19:24.02 | zenzelezz | I hard that was a decent movie |
| 19:24.05 | Kaelten | Ackis I just took the turkey out of the oven and now it's going to rest for 20 mins or so |
| 19:24.05 | zenzelezz | *heard |
| 19:24.40 | Ackis | Kaelten: I don't think I can make it down there in 20 minutes, damn I guess you'll have to eat without me :D |
| 19:24.46 | Kaelten | lol |
| 19:24.59 | Kaelten | you should have started walking a month or so ago |
| 19:25.09 | Ackis | rofl |
| 19:25.18 | Kaelten | sidenote, is it just me or has taint gotten a little out of control |
| 19:25.32 | Kaelten | somehow OB is getting taint errors on code I didn't write :/ |
| 19:25.34 | Ackis | it has |
| 19:26.13 | Ackis | one day I'll get taint errors from pb4, the next day it'll be from bt4, another day it'll be another addon... really lame |
| 19:26.29 | Kaelten | yeah it's very frustrating :/ |
| 19:26.54 | Kaelten | I just reload and carry on |
| 19:27.09 | Kaelten | but there's nothing I can think of to prevent the taint |
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| 19:30.22 | Gnarfoz | !api attack |
| 19:30.22 | lua_bot | Found 23 possible matches for 'attack'. Please be more specific or check Google search results: http://is.gd/O6LG29 |
| 19:30.25 | Gnarfoz | !api attacking |
| 19:30.26 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'attacking'. |
| 19:30.35 | Gnarfoz | !api toggle |
| 19:30.36 | lua_bot | Found 26 possible matches for 'toggle'. Please be more specific or check Google search results: http://is.gd/O6LG29 |
| 19:30.39 | Gnarfoz | !api autoattack |
| 19:30.39 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'autoattack'. |
| 19:31.14 | Gnarfoz | can I check if I'm auto-attacking? |
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| 19:43.07 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: use a /startattack macro and watch the red text? |
| 19:43.12 | Stanzilla | (real answer: idk) |
| 19:43.22 | Gnarfoz | I'm a reshaped life construct thingy |
| 19:43.28 | Gnarfoz | just wanting to make sure I'm auto-attacking |
| 19:43.35 | Gnarfoz | (since the "1" ability doesn't trigger autoattack_ |
| 19:43.43 | Ackis | farming herbs/ore is boring |
| 19:43.47 | Ackis | turns himself into a bot |
| 19:44.06 | Stanzilla | Ackis: have you seen what I posted on Torhal's fb page? |
| 19:45.21 | Ackis | I hope it's a unicorn |
| 19:45.27 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 19:45.51 | Ackis | haha nice |
| 19:52.18 | pompy | all Parnic i bet :P |
| 20:00.46 | FailDrain | right figured it out after ages of tweaking |
| 20:01.04 | FailDrain | sampleButton:SetScript("OnClick", |
| 20:01.04 | FailDrain | function(self, event end) |
| 20:05.40 | mikma | http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/news/view/2832654788445390111/ |
| 20:09.00 | Fisker | ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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| 20:40.01 | Dark_Elf | i wish blizzard would put the old class quests back in the game, i miss doing them |
| 20:41.52 | durcyn | yeah, they've only been obsoleted four times |
| 20:49.06 | Dark_Elf | well they could of updated to be current but made it funner to do each class, with current system, only get a level 20 quest, i dont like the training at all, some skills should be learned through quests or bought, i want the old system back |
| 20:51.42 | Dark_Elf | i remember a time as undead warrior, they made u enter the agamand family tomb and had to get the weapons, that was actually fun, then went back to town and had to fight some bad ass skeleton and got a nice sword |
| 20:55.17 | Dark_Elf | actually i wish the would go back to way wow was b4 bc, the starter areas the monsters werent yellow u actually had to fight the monsters, they made the game to darn easy now |
| 20:56.41 | durcyn | all nostalgia is false. |
| 21:03.18 | Gnarfoz | also, all dark elves are |
| 21:08.54 | Dark_Elf | :p |
| 21:10.09 | Dark_Elf | bah i like to know why everytime i enter or exit orgrim, the screen freezes i cant enter and exit thunderbluff and undercity and the game dont freeze but as soon as i enter the outside of org it freezes |
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| 21:54.30 | pompy | Thunder_Child: http://news.lalate.com/2012/11/22/los-angeles-earthquake-today-2012-hits-southern-california/ |
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| 22:45.44 | Arrowmaster | well thats great a directory on my flash drive is corrupt so i cant read it or delete it, and when i try to use the drive on my tablet android correctly notices something is wrong and will only mount it in read only mode |
| 22:46.36 | Corrodias | so what will you have to do, copy everything you can read off of it and format it? |
| 22:49.54 | Arrowmaster | yeah, luckly nothing on it isnt already elsewhere |
| 22:52.29 | Arrowmaster | damn this first boss in the MGS Rising demo is hard |
| 22:58.33 | Vlad| | ShaTag = addon to help share Sha tag by having the ability for others to "get into queue" and the addon handles inviting and kicking for other invities - an idea ;) |
| 22:59.49 | Gnarfoz | ;o |
| 22:59.57 | Gnarfoz | who needs an addon for that |
| 23:00.21 | Gnarfoz | if you have the tag, leave your raid and write "who still needs an invite?" and invite everyone who replies |
| 23:02.58 | Mr_Rabies | man, i feel ripped off |
| 23:03.15 | Mr_Rabies | this batsuit should place full screen POW effects on the screen in combat: http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/1136293535415186355/0326CFB5624317430F57CF9975CAA751039EDFA1/ |
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| 23:07.45 | Vlad| | Gnarfoz: the idea is if I make the raid the addon will do it for me, people won't usually leave by themselves :P |
| 23:07.55 | Gnarfoz | YOU can do it |
| 23:07.57 | Vlad| | so if I lead or got assist it can quickly kick and replace someone wit hsomeone else who needs tag |
| 23:08.01 | Gnarfoz | that's the only problem there is to solve |
| 23:08.20 | Gnarfoz | you just have to overcome the "somebody else can do it" barrier |
| 23:09.37 | Vlad| | from a practical POV |
| 23:10.15 | Vlad| | it's easier for me to have an addon kick and invite on demand than me tracking who wants in and kicking others to make space - you can't change how other people reason but you can help start a trend by starting at the leading role :P |
| 23:10.26 | Gnarfoz | uhhh |
| 23:10.31 | Gnarfoz | not sure you're getting what I'm saying |
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| 23:11.05 | Vlad| | I am tired :P |
| 23:11.11 | Vlad| | try again with simpler words lol |
| 23:11.15 | Mr_Rabies | i don't think i'm getting what you're saying either |
| 23:11.22 | Gnarfoz | you're supposed to not "kick others and invite people who need the tag" but simply start a new group and just invite everyone who still needs a tag |
| 23:11.36 | Gnarfoz | there's no big reason for you to stay in the group you're in |
| 23:11.42 | Vlad| | aha |
| 23:11.46 | Vlad| | I see |
| 23:11.54 | Vlad| | so the leader "carries" the tag? |
| 23:11.55 | Mr_Rabies | we never do tag sharing on my realm so i have no clue how it works |
| 23:11.55 | Gnarfoz | (and you're then leading by example, too! :D) |
| 23:12.01 | Gnarfoz | Vlad|: no, *everyone* carries it |
| 23:12.03 | Vlad| | neither do we |
| 23:12.05 | Vlad| | aha, I see |
| 23:12.08 | Vlad| | so it's basically like taint |
| 23:12.14 | Gnarfoz | yep |
| 23:12.17 | Gnarfoz | it spreads. ;p |
| 23:12.18 | Vlad| | only more useful |
| 23:12.22 | Mr_Rabies | just one group gets galleon per spawn |
| 23:12.28 | Mr_Rabies | raid |
| 23:12.30 | Mr_Rabies | rather |
| 23:12.31 | Vlad| | then I get it |
| 23:12.40 | Mr_Rabies | it's always the biggest raiding guild on the server too, every kill |
| 23:12.44 | Gnarfoz | Mr_Rabies: then either they don't know about sharing, or they're assholes :> |
| 23:12.55 | Mr_Rabies | they don't tell anyone else he's spawned and just kill it quietly |
| 23:12.55 | Vlad| | I didn't know either |
| 23:12.57 | Vlad| | :) |
| 23:13.04 | Gnarfoz | Mr_Rabies: haha, well |
| 23:13.15 | Gnarfoz | that's not really evil, imho |
| 23:13.21 | Gnarfoz | if they spend the time to camp there and pay attention... |
| 23:13.37 | Vlad| | it's quite nolife to camp tough |
| 23:13.41 | Gnarfoz | (not to mention it's a zone-wide yell in Valley of the four Winds when it spawns) |
| 23:13.44 | Gnarfoz | Vlad|: what |
| 23:13.44 | Vlad| | it spawns like during the early morning? :P |
| 23:13.51 | Gnarfoz | it spawns whenever it spawns |
| 23:13.56 | Mr_Rabies | well gnarfoz |
| 23:13.59 | Gnarfoz | you don't know beforehand |
| 23:14.03 | Mr_Rabies | fact is they're always going to be more organized |
| 23:14.04 | Vlad| | usually I am sleeping or at work |
| 23:14.10 | Mr_Rabies | it just means they get more chances at loot per week |
| 23:14.13 | Mr_Rabies | the rich get richer, etc |
| 23:14.13 | Vlad| | never seen him up :D |
| 23:14.14 | Gnarfoz | well, that's bad luck, then =] |
| 23:14.25 | Mr_Rabies | 639 members |
| 23:14.30 | Mr_Rabies | like, 5-6 raid teams |
| 23:14.31 | Gnarfoz | took us 5 weeks or so to see him once |
| 23:14.33 | Mr_Rabies | some 25, some 10 |
| 23:14.37 | Mr_Rabies | i've only seen him once |
| 23:15.08 | Mr_Rabies | everyone in the guild raids on at least one character |
| 23:15.16 | Mr_Rabies | every week |
| 23:15.35 | Gnarfoz | sounds like they just reap the benefits of being a big guild ^^ |
| 23:15.47 | Mr_Rabies | it's pretty unfair to the rest of the realm, though |
| 23:15.58 | Gnarfoz | not really |
| 23:16.00 | Mr_Rabies | galleon's a mess through and through |
| 23:16.09 | Mr_Rabies | sha's a good world raid boss |
| 23:16.19 | Gnarfoz | sha's a laughable world boss ^^ |
| 23:16.29 | Mr_Rabies | galleon's really just a way for the biggest guilds to get more loot per week, and everyone else to do without |
| 23:16.34 | Gnarfoz | they wanted to make Galleon like Kazzak & co, and they succeeded |
| 23:16.44 | Vlad| | let me just say this |
| 23:16.45 | Mr_Rabies | kazzak and co were a failure in my eyes too |
| 23:16.49 | Vlad| | I remember old world bosses in Vanilla |
| 23:16.54 | Mr_Rabies | and i was in the guild camping the world bosses in vanilla |
| 23:16.59 | Vlad| | here is how it went, several raids gathered and waited in turn to give it a try |
| 23:17.00 | Gnarfoz | well, then there's nothing I can say that will convice you otherwise :) |
| 23:17.02 | Vlad| | usually talking on irc |
| 23:17.13 | Vlad| | now it's so easy the world boss dies too fast and easy |
| 23:17.17 | Vlad| | so there is no real challenge to the fight |
| 23:17.22 | Mr_Rabies | we'd have like, half the guild have alts logged out at their spawns |
| 23:17.23 | Vlad| | it's just like camping a rare mob |
| 23:17.24 | Gnarfoz | Vlad|: ...on your realm (keep in mind everyone is going to have a very limited view about things like this) |
| 23:17.28 | Mr_Rabies | checking once and hour or so |
| 23:17.36 | Mr_Rabies | and we'd get literally every kill |
| 23:17.42 | Mr_Rabies | an hour |
| 23:18.02 | Vlad| | yeah, well, point is things changed and the old model doesn't work with the new players, and let's face it, the new gamers are assholes :P |
| 23:18.04 | Mr_Rabies | so it was just more loot for us, so we could progress faster than everyone else |
| 23:18.27 | Mr_Rabies | i left that guild pretty quickly though |
| 23:18.30 | Mr_Rabies | wore down on my concience |
| 23:18.32 | Gnarfoz | Vlad|: that's... a pretty "wow forums"-y conclusion |
| 23:18.44 | Mr_Rabies | problem is, they would snipe players from the other guilds before they hada chance to really build up |
| 23:18.51 | Mr_Rabies | so we only really had one raiding guild |
| 23:18.53 | Vlad| | my average interaction is usually not so pleasant sadly |
| 23:19.16 | Mr_Rabies | on the whole realm |
| 23:19.46 | Mr_Rabies | the effects of that guild are still seen to this day on our realm |
| 23:19.48 | Mr_Rabies | :| |
| 23:20.09 | Vlad| | I miss my old realm guilds |
| 23:20.16 | Vlad| | was more fair and nice to each other :P |
| 23:20.25 | Vlad| | had respect for each other ^^ |
| 23:20.55 | Mr_Rabies | most of those people from that guild are now in the new one camping galleon every spawn |
| 23:21.06 | Vlad| | too large realms, too many guilds, too little respec :P too small realm, too dead, need to balance it hehe. |
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| 23:23.26 | Mr_Rabies | our realm has too many guilds and it's lower-medium population |
| 23:24.33 | Mr_Rabies | i'd say of guilds with characters that have played in the past 6 months, the player:guild ratio is like 5:1 at best |
| 23:26.54 | Vlad| | true story, when paid transfers were added, the realm community changed a lot and you stoppd noticing known friends and enemies, and new people started to appear, making you feel more away from home than you got accustomed. |
| 23:27.01 | Vlad| | basically felt like I was not at home, at home :P |
| 23:27.54 | Mr_Rabies | eh i think each expansion just does that |
| 23:28.00 | Mr_Rabies | as people stop playing/start anew |
| 23:28.30 | Mr_Rabies | i've grown to just get used to everything breaking before and/or after each expansion, community wise |
| 23:28.55 | Vlad| | can't blame me for missing the old vanilla feel tough, where this didn't occur :P |
| 23:29.07 | Mr_Rabies | eh, i can't agree |
| 23:29.20 | Mr_Rabies | with 40 people in a raid it's unlikely you'll get to know everyone |
| 23:29.35 | Mr_Rabies | especially considering there was so much class stacking |
| 23:29.51 | Mr_Rabies | so it'd just be like "warlocks hearth out, we're bringing in mages for this" |
| 23:30.06 | Mr_Rabies | so it'd be more like 50-60 people per raid |
| 23:30.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Antiarc (~Instantbi@ip98-165-104-202.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 23:30.13 | Mr_Rabies | with 10-20 sitting out each boss |
| 23:30.16 | Vlad| | I did :P |
| 23:30.30 | Vlad| | knew most, you don't have to know everyone |
| 23:30.32 | Mr_Rabies | rose colored glasses |
| 23:30.38 | Vlad| | I was talking about realm wise tough |
| 23:30.41 | Vlad| | not internally in guilds |
| 23:30.51 | Mr_Rabies | realm wise we were huge in vanilla |
| 23:30.56 | Mr_Rabies | i knew like no one |
| 23:30.59 | Mr_Rabies | we're way smaller now |
| 23:31.05 | Vlad| | even in tbc with just 25 people, always 10-5 changing all the time, guild jumpers |
| 23:31.12 | Vlad| | I bet the same happens today too :p |
| 23:31.13 | Mr_Rabies | we were high high population for most of vanilla |
| 23:31.18 | Mr_Rabies | we had a queue once or twice |
| 23:31.26 | Mr_Rabies | now we're lower-medium population |
| 23:31.58 | Mr_Rabies | part of that was them changing the tiers, but we lost a ton of players too |
| 23:32.12 | Mr_Rabies | basically people just transfer/congregate to the huge realms mostly now |
| 23:32.25 | Mr_Rabies | and all the smaller realms whither and die |
| 23:32.30 | Mr_Rabies | that's why i love CRZ so much |
| 23:32.38 | Mr_Rabies | people in the world again :O |
| 23:32.53 | Mr_Rabies | it's a genius solution to the problem, server merges would have been a total shitstorm |
| 23:33.32 | Mr_Rabies | hopefully they'll just have everyone on one big realm eventually, with dynamic splitting as necessary |
| 23:33.46 | Vlad| | one problem |
| 23:34.01 | Vlad| | like galleon, hunter pets, oh boy, enjoy camping all the time :P |
| 23:34.13 | Mr_Rabies | galleon's already written off as a failure in my eyes |
| 23:34.16 | Vlad| | rares are shared amount everyone :D |
| 23:34.22 | Mr_Rabies | but spawn rates can be tweaked |
| 23:34.24 | Mr_Rabies | that's easy |
| 23:34.28 | Vlad| | in vashjir I saw like 10 hunters afk camping the crab pet :D |
| 23:34.42 | Vlad| | so I was like "screw this" and left :D |
| 23:34.59 | pompy | and then he spawned 4 minutes after u left. |
| 23:35.00 | pompy | :P |
| 23:35.08 | Vlad| | :p |
| 23:35.15 | Mr_Rabies | it's not worth camping a rare with someone else there |
| 23:35.24 | Mr_Rabies | they'll just kill it as you're taming it |
| 23:35.31 | Mr_Rabies | it happened to me several times in vanilla |
| 23:35.36 | Mr_Rabies | waiting for broken tooth |
| 23:36.42 | Vlad| | poor you :( |
| 23:39.46 | Vlad| | sintAcks |
| 23:39.50 | Vlad| | sint means angry :P |
| 23:41.48 | Vlad| | why do people troll me http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=269278#post269278 ? |
| 23:42.31 | pompy | Daym.. Dishonored on sale for $25 on Amazon righ tnow. |
| 23:44.28 | Dark_Elf | frankly the only thing thats broken is the poster u were responding too |
| 23:45.16 | Vlad| | will he get banned? |
| 23:45.39 | Vlad| | or suspended? or warned? :p |
| 23:45.54 | Vlad| | in my eyes he is just yet another forum jerk :p |
| 23:46.21 | Dark_Elf | if u look the person above u has only posted 1 time and that is the post |
| 23:47.00 | Dark_Elf | also if quests are missing etc why is person not posting in bugs etc, that is a blatent troll post |
| 23:47.36 | Vlad| | how are trolls handled around wowi? |
| 23:47.53 | pompy | thats a question for Cairenn|afk or dolby |
| 23:47.55 | pompy | heh |
| 23:48.57 | Dark_Elf | it hard to fix things if people dont say whats not working |
| 23:57.59 | Mr_Rabies | "can u pls fix 4 5.0" |
| 23:59.24 | Dark_Elf | lol |
