| 00:01.53 | Jitta | was QueryQuestsCompleted() removed? so I dont have to call that before GetQuestsCompleted() anymore or is there a new function now? |
| 00:02.59 | pompy | !api isquestflaggedcompleted() |
| 00:03.19 | Vlad| | IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(questID) |
| 00:03.25 | pompy | http://www.wowpedia.org/API_IsQuestFlaggedCompleted |
| 00:03.53 | Vlad| | you can still [table = ]GetQuestsCompleted([table]) if you want to, but you no longer have to query first. |
| 00:04.30 | Jitta | sweet |
| 00:04.36 | Vlad| | what are you making? |
| 00:05.20 | Jitta | just want to check which quests of the blacktemple attunement I did |
| 00:05.29 | Vlad| | hmm |
| 00:07.09 | Dark_Elf | This function or event no longer exists in version 5.0.4 of World of Warcraft |
| 00:07.22 | Vlad| | Dark_Elf ... |
| 00:07.34 | Vlad| | QueryQuestsCompleted was removed yes :p |
| 00:08.08 | Dark_Elf | im slow lol |
| 00:09.20 | Jitta | thanks anyway :p |
| 00:10.31 | Vlad| | "Enemies in these raids that previously required more than one player to defeat are now more easily dealt with by players battling alone." |
| 00:10.41 | Vlad| | does this mean we can solo ICC for the rare shirt drop from trash? :P |
| 00:15.22 | Vlad| | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=5308#comments:id=1711422 |
| 00:15.37 | Vlad| | this guys macro skills makes me wanna kill who ever first made this "template" that everyone started to copy paste -_- |
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| 00:31.41 | durcyn | what kind of asshat karma whores on wowhead of all places |
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| 01:09.23 | Stanzilla | Ackis |
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| 02:19.41 | Arrowmaster | Adys: doctor who mini episode! |
| 02:20.18 | Arrowmaster | damn moon |
| 02:21.42 | Dagmar | what? |
| 02:21.45 | Adys | hmm? |
| 02:22.46 | Dagmar | Mini episode? |
| 02:23.01 | Arrowmaster | yes, prequal to the christmas special |
| 02:23.21 | Arrowmaster | Doctor.Who.2005.S07.Minisode.Christmas.Special.HDTV.x264-RAWNiTRO.mp4 |
| 02:23.38 | Adys | mmh |
| 02:24.01 | Adys | nothing on thebox |
| 02:26.04 | Arrowmaster | find it yet? |
| 02:26.11 | Dagmar | TPB has it |
| 02:28.45 | Alram | youtube has it |
| 02:28.47 | Alram | please |
| 02:28.51 | Dagmar | *eyeroll* |
| 02:29.04 | Dagmar | Friend of mine got an ingress invite code... didn't realize it was Android-only. |
| 02:29.09 | Dagmar | He posted it to me on my G+ page. |
| 02:29.13 | Dagmar | ...in a public post. |
| 02:29.20 | Dagmar | This man is not very bright. |
| 02:54.59 | Adys | http://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/why-linus-torvalds-would-rather-code-than-make-money-1112900 |
| 02:55.05 | Adys | very interesting interview |
| 02:55.10 | Adys | Arrowmaster: im not in a rush |
| 02:55.24 | Adys | ill grab it when its on tb |
| 03:10.59 | Dagmar | LOL. "I DECLARE WAR ON THE MOON!" |
| 03:12.52 | Dagmar | It does that a lot so... probably |
| 03:13.08 | Dagmar | !@#$!@# |
| 03:52.02 | starlon | Put on the juice. http://www.wowhead.com/item=49917 |
| 03:52.11 | starlon | I badly need one of those. |
| 03:52.19 | starlon | s/need/want/ |
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| 04:00.00 | chiel | Hello there. I was wondering if anyone here is familiar with oUF, and could perhaps explain me how oUF Tags work? |
| 04:03.34 | chiel | and, can anyone perhaps explain to me what the easiest way to debug is? |
| 04:13.48 | starlon | damnit, suddenly mousing over a button only shows the tooltip when there's no modifier button pressed. Otherwise there's no tooltip. |
| 04:14.12 | starlon | Anyone else seeing this? |
| 04:14.33 | starlon | Using BT4. |
| 04:16.11 | starlon | I've spent 4 weeks worth of charms rolling on one weapon from the looking for raid finder - off Elegon. That's 4*4 rolls and no weapon. :/ |
| 04:16.24 | chiel | ouch |
| 04:16.37 | chiel | I got my third pair of tanking shoulders today from spirit kings, lol |
| 04:16.44 | starlon | cool |
| 04:16.51 | chiel | but i also got my shield from the extra roll, so i guess that made up for it |
| 04:17.00 | starlon | hehe |
| 04:17.02 | chiel | oh and my second tanking chest from will of the emperor.... |
| 04:17.07 | chiel | too bad i am not an enchanter |
| 04:17.44 | starlon | I got lfr tier chest lastnight. |
| 04:17.54 | chiel | ah cool, i only got the gloves |
| 04:17.57 | starlon | Was happy about that. |
| 04:18.07 | starlon | This gives me my 2 piece bonus. :D |
| 04:18.07 | chiel | my gf got really lucky and got two pieces in one run... :p |
| 04:18.13 | starlon | I got the gloves off Sha |
| 04:18.20 | starlon | nice |
| 04:18.37 | chiel | ah lucky bastard |
| 04:18.38 | chiel | :p |
| 04:18.41 | starlon | hehe |
| 04:18.47 | starlon | Still wanting the legs |
| 04:19.01 | starlon | And wtf is up with Galleon |
| 04:19.04 | chiel | i only have gloves so far |
| 04:19.08 | chiel | never done him |
| 04:19.11 | starlon | I go out there and people are everywhere. |
| 04:19.16 | chiel | he's like... permanently dead. |
| 04:19.19 | starlon | But they're just waiting. |
| 04:19.23 | starlon | WTF |
| 04:19.29 | starlon | Why? He never spawns. Go home. |
| 04:19.31 | chiel | i think the allies always kill him on my realm |
| 04:19.37 | starlon | cool |
| 04:19.48 | chiel | not really, i am horde :p |
| 04:19.53 | starlon | ouch |
| 04:19.54 | starlon | lol |
| 04:19.55 | karl_w_w | people are pretty good at predicting when he'll spawn |
| 04:20.14 | chiel | I have never even seen him.. :/ |
| 04:20.33 | karl_w_w | i've seen him dead once and killed him once |
| 04:20.33 | starlon | Well they should recruit people in Trade and I've only had it happen once right after a 2 hour restart. |
| 04:20.41 | karl_w_w | but i've never been that bothered |
| 04:20.53 | starlon | ah |
| 04:21.10 | karl_w_w | there isnt time to recruit in trade starlon |
| 04:21.24 | starlon | well they don't have that many people out there |
| 04:21.27 | karl_w_w | if you want to get in you'll have to hand out in the valley :P |
| 04:21.32 | karl_w_w | hang* |
| 04:21.44 | starlon | They don't have enough people out there. |
| 04:21.48 | chiel | how many people does it take to kill him? |
| 04:21.50 | chiel | 40 as well? |
| 04:22.22 | starlon | I don't know how many we had. |
| 04:22.30 | starlon | We had more than the Horde though. |
| 04:22.37 | starlon | We recruited longer. |
| 04:22.54 | starlon | We kept recruiting after they started because those idiots flagged themselves. lol |
| 04:23.16 | starlon | Should kick flagged players. |
| 04:24.06 | chiel | hmm |
| 04:24.12 | starlon | They were all stacked up nice and neat there. |
| 04:24.16 | chiel | any of you guys writing addons? |
| 04:24.25 | starlon | ya |
| 04:24.40 | starlon | terrible addons sure |
| 04:24.51 | Seerah | hey, speak for yourself :p |
| 04:24.54 | Dark_Elf | small ones lol |
| 04:24.56 | chiel | i'm wondering about something... |
| 04:24.57 | starlon | lol |
| 04:25.02 | chiel | how do you debug values? |
| 04:25.07 | chiel | to like bugsack/buggrabber |
| 04:25.25 | Seerah | what do you mean? |
| 04:25.28 | starlon | You're wanting to extract that info from bugsack? |
| 04:26.02 | chiel | say I want to debug what's in table "foo" |
| 04:26.08 | Seerah | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:26.19 | chiel | hm |
| 04:26.25 | chiel | but it's in a namespace |
| 04:26.34 | chiel | I don't think I will be able to get to it from inside the game? |
| 04:26.44 | Seerah | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:26.46 | Seerah | :) |
| 04:26.49 | chiel | lol |
| 04:26.49 | chiel | ok |
| 04:27.05 | Seerah | if it's local, then make it global for debugging. |
| 04:27.07 | Seerah | OR |
| 04:27.22 | Seerah | use print statements within your code to check values as your code goes along |
| 04:27.30 | chiel | hm |
| 04:27.47 | Seerah | for k,v in pairs(foo) do print(k,v) end |
| 04:27.50 | Seerah | for example |
| 04:28.33 | Seerah | or.... if value then print("code gets this far!") end |
| 04:29.25 | chiel | ah k, and that will output to chat, or will bugsack catch it or so? |
| 04:29.47 | Seerah | chat |
| 04:29.52 | Dark_Elf | bugsack just gets errors |
| 04:30.28 | chiel | ah cool, gonna try :) |
| 04:31.05 | chiel | I guess all the code gets initialised, and then I could, for example, listen for the login event to actually do stuff, right? |
| 04:31.07 | karl_w_w | wouldn't /dump _G["foo"] work? |
| 04:31.21 | chiel | cause I want to execute a function when everything is loaded/initialised etc |
| 04:31.42 | Seerah | karl_w_w: that's the same as /dump foo |
| 04:32.09 | Seerah | chiel: right. |
| 04:32.30 | karl_w_w | Seerah: not if foo is local |
| 04:32.44 | Seerah | if foo is local, it's not going to be in the global table ;) |
| 04:32.59 | chiel | I just started with this stuff, I still find it a bit confusing you need a frame just to listen for events :) |
| 04:33.38 | Seerah | chiel: you need a frame object, yes. but it doesn't have to have any other properties |
| 04:34.29 | chiel | yeah, it just feels weird, that's all :p |
| 04:34.30 | karl_w_w | hmm, I've seen something like that before |
| 04:34.35 | chiel | but i guess it's all about objects |
| 04:34.40 | chiel | i am new to lua as a whole |
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| 05:21.18 | chiel | hmm |
| 05:21.29 | chiel | how does one set a position of a frame? |
| 05:21.37 | chiel | I thought it was frame:Point() |
| 05:21.49 | chiel | but that appears to be a nil |
| 05:22.18 | chiel | it's an oUF frame, so perhaps it's something different... hmm |
| 05:26.11 | Jammer | chiel: SetPoint maybe what you're looking for |
| 05:27.34 | chiel | Jammer: ah, cool. I was using that in other places but I saw someone else use :Point() in their code |
| 05:27.35 | Dark_Elf | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Region/SetPoint |
| 05:27.41 | chiel | but maybe it's some custom thing or so. |
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| 05:54.38 | starlon | points randomly. |
| 05:57.03 | kd3 | that was quick; http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121117/16492521084/that-was-fast-hollywood-already-browbeat-republicans-into-retracting-report-copyright-reform.shtml |
| 05:57.10 | kd3 | sigh |
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| 06:03.35 | Dagmar | That is fucked |
| 06:04.15 | chiel | woohoo, cleaned up my code, awesome |
| 06:04.26 | chiel | now i just have to find a good way to handle the dropdown on the unitframes.... |
| 06:06.26 | Dark_Elf | dropdown on unitframes? |
| 06:07.10 | chiel | yeah |
| 06:07.11 | Cairenn | blunts specifically |
| 06:07.20 | Xuerian | ... |
| 06:07.38 | Xuerian | Enjoying a little mary jane there Cairenn? |
| 06:07.40 | chiel | when you right click |
| 06:07.50 | Cairenn | no |
| 06:07.51 | Cairenn | (12:54:37 AM) ***starlon points randomly. |
| 06:07.54 | Xuerian | chiel: Find another oUF layout and copy their right click code. You don't wanna mess with unit menus. |
| 06:08.08 | Xuerian | Cairenn: Uh-huh, sureee |
| 06:08.33 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 06:09.09 | chiel | Xuerian: yeah, did that. but i'm trying to make my code a bit more modular than most oUF layouts |
| 06:09.20 | chiel | I have it fixed for now |
| 06:09.24 | chiel | I can refactor later. |
| 06:09.34 | chiel | annoying thing is I am deving on windows atm |
| 06:09.36 | chiel | no git.. :p |
| 06:09.45 | Xuerian | chiel: Also you're free to add methods to frames, they're just tables with userdata ([0], basically) set |
| 06:09.50 | Xuerian | Whut |
| 06:09.51 | Xuerian | gitforwindows |
| 06:09.53 | chiel | so let's hope my pc does not die a horrible death. :D |
| 06:10.00 | chiel | yeah |
| 06:10.01 | chiel | i know |
| 06:10.02 | chiel | but lazy |
| 06:10.03 | chiel | :D |
| 06:10.11 | Xuerian | It's fast to install honestly :p |
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| 06:10.15 | chiel | yeah |
| 06:10.27 | chiel | i dunno, just want to look my code over on my mac first |
| 06:10.30 | chiel | i don't trust iwndows. |
| 06:10.32 | chiel | windows* |
| 06:10.35 | chiel | wtb unix env |
| 06:10.50 | Xuerian | Anyway, methods on frames, function frame:method(...) works fine, or you can write a generic and assign it, function method(self, ...) frame.method = method |
| 06:10.53 | Xuerian | If you didn't already know. |
| 06:11.18 | chiel | yeah |
| 06:11.34 | chiel | i'm quite familiar with a few programming languages |
| 06:11.39 | chiel | but lua + the wow api are both new to me |
| 06:11.43 | chiel | so it's quite interesting |
| 06:11.58 | chiel | i'm getting a lot less errors now than i was when i just started so at least there's progress. |
| 06:12.11 | Xuerian | Lua's a nice little language. Also http://lua-users.org/files/wiki_insecure/users/thomasl/luarefv51.pdf |
| 06:13.13 | Xuerian | Welcome to addon dev, too :p |
| 06:13.14 | chiel | Xuerian: oh awesome definitely bookmarking. |
| 06:13.18 | chiel | hah, thanks. |
| 06:13.37 | chiel | i am just making something for myself |
| 06:13.41 | chiel | doubt i will publish it :D |
| 06:13.43 | Xuerian | www.wowpedia.org/World_of_Warcraft_API and www.wowpedia.org/Widget_API if you don't have them bookmarked yet |
| 06:13.45 | chiel | cba supporting ;D |
| 06:13.50 | chiel | aye, got those |
| 06:13.57 | chiel | and wowprogramming |
| 06:14.20 | chiel | i stole some code from tukui/elvui as well |
| 06:14.34 | chiel | just to help my head wrap around how they approach modularisation |
| 06:14.43 | Xuerian | Best kind of learning. Just make sure you respect any licenses they have in place if you took code instead of inspiration. And credit is always good :p |
| 06:14.58 | chiel | only inspiration :) |
| 06:15.10 | chiel | besides, i doubt this code will ever leave my harddrive xD |
| 06:15.17 | chiel | probably will back it up on github though |
| 06:16.30 | Xuerian | Shrug. Know the feeling though, I did more or less thing with my own oUF layout. |
| 06:18.07 | chiel | oh cool :) |
| 06:18.17 | chiel | i wanted it to be an entire layout |
| 06:18.20 | chiel | much like tukui/elvui |
| 06:18.29 | chiel | but they do a lot of stuff i don't necessarily want |
| 06:18.36 | chiel | i use weakauras mostly for my main setup |
| 06:18.43 | chiel | on my main i have my actiobars hidden |
| 06:19.05 | chiel | so instead of having to install, say, bartender, it's probably very few lines of lua to just hide them manually |
| 06:20.03 | Xuerian | Heh. Ultra-minimalist, eh :p |
| 06:21.23 | chiel | nah not really, but i have everything keybound, and i have some auras set up to indicate when abilities come off cd |
| 06:21.33 | chiel | i play a tank, i like to have a lot of vision :) |
| 06:22.47 | Xuerian | Yeah. Same. Mine was pretty minimal, then they pulled a fast one and gave me more cooldowns. Everything not in 1-5 has spread over the right side of my screen :P |
| 06:23.00 | chiel | hah :p |
| 06:23.15 | chiel | i play with SDF for movement, i unbound my forward move |
| 06:23.35 | chiel | then i have abilities on 1-6, q-y, a, g, h, z-v |
| 06:24.01 | chiel | and all my cd's are on ctrl + 1-4. q-r, a-f |
| 06:24.04 | Xuerian | Geez. Couldn't do that, I like to be able to move when I take my hand off the mouse. Have a lot of abilities on ` and alt-E with oPie though |
| 06:24.23 | chiel | yeah my forward move is by my thumb on the mouse |
| 06:25.05 | chiel | oh well, time to sleep |
| 06:25.08 | chiel | see you around :) |
| 06:25.18 | chiel | i will be asking a lot of questions in here no doubt! :D |
| 06:25.22 | Xuerian | Later. |
| 06:38.13 | Xuerian | I have made a horrible mistake by getting netflix. |
| 06:38.24 | Xuerian | Nothing's going to get done now -_-; |
| 06:45.10 | karl_w_w | i thought other players werent meant to be able to see you when you're doing a pet battle |
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| 08:18.30 | bleeter | heh, wow anniversary mail text wasn't updated from cata |
| 08:19.42 | starlon | Blizzard should give us party mode! You can't die! |
| 08:19.54 | starlon | remembers that old MUD he used to play. |
| 08:22.27 | starlon | I remember when "drop" meant the item dropped to the ground and anyone or everyone could pick it up before you. |
| 08:23.07 | starlon | RO was like that too. :/ Just let a card drop and see who gets pissed. |
| 08:24.11 | bleeter | heh |
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| 08:42.18 | clever | starlon: items do still drop in diablo, but its like the new raid finder, everybody see's different items drop |
| 08:42.25 | clever | and you cant pick up eachothers items |
| 08:42.49 | Dagmar | So what you do is run Scenarios until you get a box with something in it, but don't loot it yet. |
| 08:43.04 | Dagmar | Wait till the raid, shout "NINJA TIME" and then open the box and loot it |
| 08:43.12 | clever | lol :D |
| 08:43.53 | clever | think it would still work if you open the box without auto-loot? |
| 08:43.55 | Dagmar | I laughed so hard I nearly balcked out |
| 08:43.56 | clever | to peek inside |
| 08:44.12 | clever | then you know if its a decent enough item to work |
| 08:44.25 | Dagmar | Scenario items are all 463 |
| 08:44.46 | clever | ah |
| 08:44.50 | Dagmar | ...which is something people keyed up about the very IDEA of ninjas aren't even going to realize |
| 08:57.47 | starlon | What exactly does voting software do that benefits from the obscurity model for security? |
| 08:58.09 | starlon | Doesn't the software just count totals? o.O |
| 08:58.26 | starlon | Pick from a list. |
| 08:58.41 | starlon | Surely it's not complicated. |
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| 09:23.23 | starlon | So these aniversary consumables that increase exp and rep gains from kills by 8% only works for kills and not quest turn-ins? |
| 09:23.49 | starlon | asks stupid questions sometimes. :/ |
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| 09:46.45 | nevcairiel | if it says "from kills", then thats what it does =P |
| 09:58.39 | starlon | You can't say that with certainty. |
| 09:58.43 | starlon | Not with Blizzard. |
| 10:08.48 | Vlad| | I'd assume they made it only for kills, otherwise they wouldn't specify that |
| 10:08.56 | Vlad| | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/battlepettabs/tickets/4-resetting-tabs/ :'( |
| 10:09.38 | starlon | I can pop out a total of 11 engineering robots. The BMAH has a 12th I could add for 15k. Tempting. |
| 10:09.47 | Vlad| | I need someone here with great knowledge to explain to me when the addon variables are loaded so I can continue with actually using them, to avoid accidentally resetting peoples settings - anyone? :P |
| 10:11.15 | starlon | (technically the TCG robot isn't engineering, but it's still a robot) |
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| 10:19.21 | jnwhiteh | Vlad|: addon variables are loaded at ADDON_LOADED |
| 10:19.28 | jnwhiteh | for that particular addon |
| 10:19.29 | jnwhiteh | always |
| 10:19.48 | Vlad| | yeah but even so I've myself experienced situations where my variables have reset, even when waiting to do stuff after that event :/ |
| 10:19.57 | Vlad| | and this guy says he experienced the same :/ |
| 10:20.02 | Vlad| | that is why I am uncertain |
| 10:20.10 | jnwhiteh | then its your code |
| 10:20.14 | Vlad| | ehm |
| 10:20.17 | jnwhiteh | your saved variables are loaded at addon_loaded |
| 10:20.21 | jnwhiteh | always, no exceptions :P |
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| 10:20.44 | Vlad| | so if the addon never actually clears the SV but only uses it how does it reset it? I mean... |
| 10:20.50 | Vlad| | SV={} -- reset |
| 10:20.53 | Vlad| | or table.wipe |
| 10:20.58 | Vlad| | otherwise you only look up or insert stuff |
| 10:21.04 | Vlad| | that shouldn't remove anything :S |
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| 10:21.40 | Vlad| | personally I find it weird |
| 10:23.12 | Vlad| | setting the SV at code run to empty table is safe, since later at the addon load event it will be replaced with the proper variable - or am I wrong jnwhiteh? |
| 10:23.36 | Vlad| | do 'SV={}' at code run then later when addon load fires the SV will be what ever was saved last session. |
| 10:25.01 | Vlad| | :/ |
| 10:25.55 | Vlad| | the weird thing is that the function I made that can potentially reset the variables is safe by using a "isloaded" check, i.e. even if you run it before addon loaded fires it will silently fail, and only work after said event - so yeah, I am sure that it is not 100% that your SV are loaded at the event :/ |
| 10:26.07 | clever | from what i understand, the code in global scope (outside functions) gets ran before saved variables are restored |
| 10:26.16 | clever | so SV={} would give it a default if there is none to restore |
| 10:26.50 | Vlad| | yeah |
| 10:27.29 | Vlad| | considering your code is read before the SV are loaded and the addon loaded event fires, it's safe to assign default values to your SV in the "root" |
| 10:31.11 | Vlad| | my addon has a routine to fix issues in the SV table but that function only runs after both my addon and the PetJournal addon are loaded, meaning I keep track of the loading of what addon happens when and "flag" in four stages, [nothingIsLoaded, myAddonIsLoaded, petJournalIsLoaded, allHaveLoaded] -- meaning I am very safe that when "allHaveLoaded" is set it means that all the dependency addons are loaded and that the function that can override |
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| 10:46.22 | Vlad| | the addon loaded event should be tweaked to fire on LOD addons too |
| 10:46.41 | Vlad| | meaning if you load your addon the game should tell it what addons have loaded (even if they don't load right as the addon is told about them) |
| 10:47.01 | Vlad| | point is so you can avoid having to first check if addon is loaded then if not monitor it using the addon loaded event and such. |
| 10:49.00 | Vlad| | anyway I won't write more, but in case someone notices the chat and knows something about SV loading and the microscopical chance that addon loaded may fire before the SV are loaded, give me a drop :P |
| 10:49.52 | jnwhiteh | Vlad|: don't rely on IsAddonLoaded() |
| 10:49.57 | jnwhiteh | during loading, imo |
| 10:50.06 | Vlad| | that was just something else :P |
| 10:50.11 | Vlad| | I mean if you track the AchievementUI |
| 10:50.24 | Vlad| | and you load your addon after the AUI is loaded |
| 10:50.33 | Vlad| | your "addon loaded" will never fire with that addons name |
| 10:51.00 | Vlad| | so you have two scenarios, one where you load before AUI and can catch the loaded event, or when you load after and the AUI loaded event never triggers in your code :P |
| 10:51.04 | Vlad| | that's what I was mentioning hehe |
| 10:51.10 | Vlad| | totally separate from my SV issue :P |
| 10:51.12 | jnwhiteh | what does that have to do with your SVs? |
| 10:51.13 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 10:51.27 | Vlad| | it's just messy if you need to track several LOD addons |
| 10:51.27 | jnwhiteh | addon_loaded never fires before your SVs are loaded. |
| 10:51.33 | jnwhiteh | I am ultimately confident in this |
| 10:51.36 | Vlad| | yeah but |
| 10:51.46 | Vlad| | I made an addon to log mind control mobs, their spells |
| 10:51.52 | Vlad| | at some point the SV was reset |
| 10:52.18 | Vlad| | the only possibility for this in my code is at addon_loaded because there I have a "SV = SV or {}" |
| 10:52.32 | Vlad| | otherwise I only insert using SV[npcID] |
| 10:52.45 | Vlad| | so how do you explain that? :P |
| 10:53.22 | Vlad| | http://pastebin.com/Ay6wfF5R in case you wanna look, but I stopped working on it after I saw it reset once a while ago :P |
| 10:53.27 | jnwhiteh | addon being disabled/enabled |
| 10:53.28 | Vlad| | then I got sad lol, had nearly 1k entries :P |
| 10:53.36 | Vlad| | what do you mean? |
| 10:54.39 | jnwhiteh | why is that code there anyway? |
| 10:54.45 | jnwhiteh | that should be in the main chunk |
| 10:55.09 | Vlad| | true, but doesn't explain why it suddenly randomly reset my SV to empty table :P |
| 10:55.18 | jnwhiteh | neither can i |
| 10:55.20 | Vlad| | if the case is that SV are always loaded before the addon_loaded fires for your addon |
| 10:55.27 | Vlad| | it happens very rarely |
| 10:55.28 | jnwhiteh | but ADDON_LOADED does not fire until your SVs are loaded. |
| 10:55.31 | Vlad| | yeah |
| 10:55.33 | jnwhiteh | that's the trigger for the event |
| 10:55.35 | jnwhiteh | its not like a precondition |
| 10:55.39 | Vlad| | so I can't explain it either |
| 10:55.39 | jnwhiteh | its HOW the even is fired |
| 10:56.16 | jnwhiteh | ace1/ace2/ace3/dongle and addoncore have used this since about 2005 |
| 10:56.19 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 10:56.35 | jnwhiteh | that's pretty wide penetration :P |
| 10:56.57 | Vlad| | thing is, my pet tabs addon has its SV=SVor{} outside the addon_loaded chunk :P |
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| 10:57.08 | Vlad| | and yet someone reported their SV are reset sometimes |
| 10:57.15 | jnwhiteh | then there's something else going on |
| 10:57.17 | jnwhiteh | you can't trust users. |
| 10:57.20 | jnwhiteh | rule #1 |
| 10:57.21 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:57.40 | Vlad| | I wonder what, because, how I deal with it is tracking that my code and that the pet journal loads before I do more :P |
| 10:57.59 | Vlad| | only then does my SV potentially resetting function able to run |
| 10:58.06 | jnwhiteh | sounds like you're conflating things |
| 10:58.10 | jnwhiteh | your SV have nothing to do with other addons |
| 10:58.16 | jnwhiteh | not sure why its being considered |
| 10:58.20 | Vlad| | no, but my code depends on the pet journal :P |
| 10:58.27 | jnwhiteh | so? |
| 10:58.29 | jnwhiteh | your svs dont |
| 10:58.31 | jnwhiteh | your addon loads |
| 10:58.33 | jnwhiteh | you do your shit |
| 10:58.34 | Vlad| | that is the point |
| 10:58.40 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 10:58.43 | Vlad| | even if my addon SV loads I still wait for PJ to load :P |
| 10:58.47 | Vlad| | before I create the frames and such |
| 10:59.09 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 10:59.14 | jnwhiteh | what does that have to do with your SV? |
| 10:59.20 | jnwhiteh | your'e confusing the shit out of me =) |
| 10:59.24 | jnwhiteh | I don't care about your creating frames |
| 10:59.25 | Vlad| | and the frames can potentially trigger the function that clean up corrupt SV code, i.e. can reset. |
| 10:59.29 | jnwhiteh | but your SV should have 0 to do with any other addon |
| 10:59.30 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 10:59.31 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 10:59.35 | jnwhiteh | that doesn't make sense |
| 10:59.44 | jnwhiteh | that's just bad logic |
| 10:59.52 | Vlad| | but that function only runs after both my addon and PJ are loaded, I added a variable to check for to make sure of this. |
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| 11:00.05 | jnwhiteh | *shrug* i dunno what to tell ya =/ |
| 11:00.07 | Vlad| | it was to eliminate the chances of premature resetting :P |
| 11:00.11 | jnwhiteh | SVs are always loaded when A_L fires |
| 11:00.12 | Vlad| | yeah, it's weird. |
| 11:00.18 | Vlad| | I was told the same |
| 11:00.29 | Vlad| | but trough my years of coding stuff I have noticed weird SV resets occasionally |
| 11:00.35 | Vlad| | and it does't make sense :P |
| 11:00.39 | jnwhiteh | i've never noticed a single one =) |
| 11:00.40 | Vlad| | even my normal addons like ace :P |
| 11:01.01 | Vlad| | I think it has to do with the reloadui sequence, I believe it happened at that point |
| 11:01.07 | Vlad| | in some weird situation or something, not sure :P |
| 11:01.10 | Vlad| | long ago since it happened hehe |
| 11:01.30 | Vlad| | also |
| 11:01.50 | Vlad| | why does VARIABLES_LOADED exist? |
| 11:02.20 | Vlad| | and could it be that in some weird situations that your SV load right after A_L loads and you could track it using V_L? :P |
| 11:03.34 | Vlad| | loong ago like TBC I remember I made an addon to wait for V_L and check if my table is nil, and when it is not then it ran my "init" code :D |
| 11:05.27 | Vlad| | I am just trying to brainstorm some scenarios :P |
| 11:25.38 | jnwhiteh | Vlad|: VAR_LOADED is for Blizzard |
| 11:25.43 | jnwhiteh | because there are Blizzard saved variables |
| 11:25.48 | jnwhiteh | and that is the corresponding event |
| 11:25.51 | jnwhiteh | for the base UI blizzard SVs |
| 11:25.58 | Vlad| | the options UI or? |
| 11:26.01 | jnwhiteh | .. |
| 11:26.06 | jnwhiteh | the blizzrd saved variable |
| 11:26.07 | jnwhiteh | no UI |
| 11:26.08 | jnwhiteh | no addon |
| 11:26.09 | Vlad| | ah |
| 11:26.09 | Fisker | pla/me brrrs |
| 11:26.11 | Fisker | :( |
| 11:26.13 | jnwhiteh | blizzard saved variables |
| 11:26.14 | Fisker | brrrs |
| 11:26.16 | Vlad| | but it fires several times tough |
| 11:26.20 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 11:26.21 | Vlad| | doesn't blizz have only one SV? |
| 11:26.27 | Vlad| | not sure ;p |
| 11:26.28 | jnwhiteh | because it also covers some other things |
| 11:26.30 | jnwhiteh | like keybindings, etc. |
| 11:26.32 | jnwhiteh | this is why you do't use it |
| 11:26.34 | jnwhiteh | for anything |
| 11:26.40 | jnwhiteh | its not for us |
| 11:26.56 | Vlad| | okok, relax :p |
| 11:27.11 | jnwhiteh | just explaining |
| 11:27.15 | jnwhiteh | look at AddonCore.lua in any of my addons |
| 11:27.22 | jnwhiteh | it makes 90% of this abundantly clear =) |
| 11:27.28 | jnwhiteh | ther'es Enable and there's Initialize |
| 11:27.32 | jnwhiteh | and I cover all the edge cases |
| 11:28.45 | jnwhiteh | the first event your addon should watch for is ADDON_LOADED with your name, followed by PLAYER_LOGIN. If your addon is potentially load-on-demand, then you need to trigger your PLAYER_LOGIN function if, after ADDON_LOADED, IsLoggedIn is true |
| 11:28.52 | jnwhiteh | lines 130-143 |
| 11:30.46 | jnwhiteh | <3 AddonCore |
| 11:31.34 | Fisker | btw Adys |
| 11:31.39 | Fisker | the bengal is a carrier |
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| 11:39.24 | Vlad| | so you mean I should wait for player_login after addon_loaded? |
| 11:39.36 | Vlad| | does player_login fire in the case of when you use LOD addons? :P curious |
| 11:40.40 | Vlad| | actually when pet journal loads (it's loaded when user shows mount page) meaning player_login would have fired long ago :P |
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| 11:45.29 | Vlad| | hi Sliker |
| 11:45.32 | Vlad| | how can I help you? |
| 11:49.52 | Kesava | hu wha |
| 11:51.22 | Kesava | irssi logs me in with some random name, purl tells me "i" have botmail, i'm just confused. |
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| 11:54.16 | jnwhiteh | Vlad|: lthe code makes it clear, and I already explained that |
| 11:55.10 | Vlad| | atm I am still not sure how I can change anything to prevent something that happens like, never for me when I run my code >.< |
| 11:55.38 | Vlad| | makes no sense it would act differently on other clients :p |
| 11:55.48 | Vlad| | but apparently addons can :d |
| 11:56.06 | Vlad| | especially when I had it being LOD linux guys had issues ;D |
| 11:58.18 | Vlad| | I will look at your code soon :P |
| 11:58.45 | Fisker | do you even know how cold it is here jnwhiteh ? |
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| 12:02.18 | Dagmar | Mildly chilly, unless you're a ponce. |
| 12:07.43 | Vlad| | jnwhiteh: feels like you are mocking me :P |
| 12:07.54 | Vlad| | when I saw the code it looks basically the same as how I do it xD |
| 12:10.50 | Vlad| | but srsly when you run your code after your addon has fired addon_loaded then it makes no sense if the SV is corrupt as it expect from there on and onward to be properly loaded :P yeah, weird situation when it happens :P |
| 12:17.29 | starlon | WoW's nickname is Megamufasa. |
| 12:17.35 | starlon | 20gb? wtf |
| 12:18.14 | starlon | Trying to copy the folder over to another partition. |
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| 12:18.41 | Kesava | :set theme default |
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| 12:18.43 | Kesava | ... whoops |
| 12:18.47 | Kesava | sigh |
| 12:18.52 | starlon | :) |
| 12:30.14 | Vlad| | hmm |
| 12:30.40 | Vlad| | I am having problems finding this video clip, long ago, a senator or something, a woman in her car was asked by some kid on a bicycle about gay marriage and I think she had a good response :P |
| 12:30.58 | Vlad| | about quality of marriage doesn't depend on the sexes, I wanted to post it on a thread about this subject :P |
| 12:31.32 | Vlad| | ah think I found it |
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| 12:39.43 | Vlad| | www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCFFxidhcy0#t=1m35s |
| 12:39.50 | Vlad| | that's what I was thinking about, good talk, I like it :) |
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| 12:42.29 | Vlad| | mmochamp denies threads about sexuality, fine, but the thread I was reading was about rights to marry, not about sexuality :P |
| 12:42.57 | Vlad| | I think the moderator should have cleaned up the posters that don't contribute at all with their inappropriate comments, rather than closing it :P |
| 12:46.38 | Vlad| | btw the letter this year is same as last :P |
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| 13:16.05 | karl_w_w | Vlad|: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boPhDRug_SQ |
| 13:17.07 | Vlad| | thanks karl :p |
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| 13:29.00 | Vlad| | karl_w_w: videos aren't made like that anymore :P |
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| 13:41.00 | haste | chiel: did you get any answer regarding tags? |
| 13:48.04 | chiel | haste: oh hello |
| 13:48.12 | chiel | actually no, I was sleeping :p |
| 13:48.34 | chiel | haste: thanks for writing such an awesome addon though, i'm having a lot of fun fiddling about with it |
| 13:50.56 | karl_w_w | Vlad|: that's because they're all noobs! |
| 13:51.14 | Vlad| | what addon? :P |
| 13:53.25 | chiel | haste: btw, i don't suppose there's really any (semi-) painless way to deal with the unit dropdowns, right? |
| 13:54.02 | karl_w_w | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/combustion anyone wanna troubleshoot the latest comment for me? :P |
| 13:54.06 | karl_w_w | I have no ideas |
| 13:54.14 | haste | chiel: https://github.com/haste/oUF_Lily/blob/master/menu.lua probably as painless as you can get them currently |
| 13:54.33 | chiel | haste: cool, yeah i copied that more or less. :) |
| 13:54.45 | haste | chiel: any specific part of the tag system you are curious about? |
| 13:55.10 | chiel | haste: well, in general how they work really. basically what i was trying to achieve is to fetch the current unit's name |
| 13:55.24 | chiel | so i was looking at some other layouts and they seem to use tags for that |
| 13:55.47 | haste | https://github.com/haste/oUF/blob/master/elements/tags.lua#L76-L78 https://github.com/haste/oUF/blob/master/elements/tags.lua#L369 |
| 13:56.05 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:56.41 | haste | oUF.Tags.Methods["name"] = ... and oUF.Tags.Events["name"] = "..." |
| 13:56.52 | haste | the method can be a function as well |
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| 13:57.56 | chiel | cool, and oUF will automatically register to that event and re-run the tag's method? |
| 13:58.28 | haste | yep, it updates the entire string every time tho' |
| 13:58.54 | chiel | right, so you kinda want to be careful with large calculations i suppose? |
| 14:03.42 | haste | nah, lua is fairly fast so that shouldn't be an issue |
| 14:04.22 | haste | it's fairly easy to optimize should it turn out to be an issue as well |
| 14:06.20 | chiel | hmm cool |
| 14:06.37 | chiel | and that event will just fire on each element that you spawn, i guess? |
| 14:13.37 | haste | the tag element has its own event handler, so it handles all the updating and such |
| 14:14.14 | haste | all you have to do is really: frame:Tag(fontString, "[name]") |
| 14:14.43 | chiel | cool, but i guess i have to stick it in a font object or so |
| 14:15.24 | haste | https://github.com/haste/oUF_Lily/blob/master/lily.lua#L195-L199 you need a fontstring :) |
| 14:16.05 | chiel | right yeah, exactly. sorry for the nooby questions, only started with lua/addon dev yesterday :p |
| 14:16.14 | haste | np :) |
| 14:17.35 | chiel | took me longer than i'd like to admit to figure out you need `self:RegisterForClicks"AnyUp"` to actually register for menu right click stuff, haha |
| 14:18.32 | chiel | but i guess it was partially my own fault, wanting to make all the code modular, made it all take a bit longer |
| 14:18.41 | haste | it's also used for Clique and similar add-ons |
| 14:19.34 | chiel | yeah, i figured it was for more than that |
| 14:19.52 | chiel | i was doing frame.menu = menu and going wtfffff y u no work |
| 14:27.42 | Vlad| | I am confused. |
| 14:28.07 | Fisker | unhastes haste |
| 14:30.03 | chiel | right, time to try adding the tag |
| 14:30.19 | haste | Fisker: the irony of me firing up IE on my laptop after you said that... |
| 14:32.42 | Vlad| | why doesn't IE support these special rounded edges tags and such? I am curious, I mean, I assume the css tags starting with "-" or "moz" and such are browser specific, but why are there no equivalent tags in the standard css? |
| 14:33.15 | Dagmar | Apple invented rounded corners. Do you want Blizzard to get sued? |
| 14:33.37 | Vlad| | :P |
| 14:34.00 | chiel | hmm |
| 14:34.02 | Vlad| | rectangular shapes with round edges you say? apple should sue all the car makers |
| 14:34.13 | chiel | he UnitName() function... what are you supposed to pass to it? :/ |
| 14:34.20 | Vlad| | UnitName("target") |
| 14:34.22 | haste | unitid |
| 14:34.25 | chiel | a string.. |
| 14:34.26 | haste | !api UnitName |
| 14:34.26 | lua_bot | UnitName: Returns the name of a unit (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitName) |
| 14:34.27 | chiel | hmm |
| 14:34.41 | Vlad| | what name do you wish to know? |
| 14:35.31 | chiel | target's unit name |
| 14:35.41 | chiel | gonna start using tags now on oUF |
| 14:35.42 | Vlad| | then it's like I said it :P |
| 14:35.43 | chiel | this should be fun |
| 14:36.36 | Vlad| | nUI is a great way to teach newbies basic lua, some day they may code their own! ;) |
| 14:37.14 | Vlad| | lol people selling the blizzard store pet for 25k gold (it's like 10 euro max) |
| 14:37.19 | Vlad| | silly :P |
| 14:37.46 | chiel | nUI? |
| 14:37.54 | Vlad| | isn't it nUI? |
| 14:38.02 | chiel | i have no idea what nUI is |
| 14:38.03 | Vlad| | the UI package letting you customize stuff and write your own code? |
| 14:38.07 | chiel | i'm just using oUF |
| 14:38.10 | Vlad| | ah oUF |
| 14:38.20 | chiel | writing my own ui for the fun of it |
| 14:38.37 | haste | chiel: you define tags as function(unit, realUnit) ... end |
| 14:38.51 | chiel | what's realUnit? |
| 14:38.59 | Vlad| | yeah I wondered the same |
| 14:39.00 | haste | chiel: so in the case of UnitName, you'll want to do UnitName(realUnit or unit) |
| 14:39.08 | haste | its the unit sitting in a vehicle |
| 14:39.10 | Vlad| | realUnit is the actual name of the unit? |
| 14:39.14 | Vlad| | aha |
| 14:39.37 | chiel | ah i see |
| 14:42.27 | chiel | and to apply the tag to the UF, i'd do.... `frame:Tag(fontStringObj, '[name]')` ? |
| 14:42.34 | Fisker | i can end you haste |
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| 14:42.54 | haste | chiel: y |
| 14:42.59 | chiel | hmm ok |
| 14:43.10 | haste | Fisker: no you can't! |
| 14:43.20 | chiel | hmm |
| 14:43.23 | Fisker | oh ok ;( |
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| 14:48.09 | Vlad| | lol |
| 14:48.26 | Vlad| | you mean oUF has these [tagname] stuffs? |
| 14:49.03 | haste | it does |
| 14:49.22 | chiel | !api CreateFontString |
| 14:49.24 | lua_bot | Frame:CreateFontString: Creates a new [[docs/widgets/FontString|`FontString`]] as a child of the frame (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/CreateFontString) |
| 14:49.39 | Vlad| | note that is a widget API |
| 14:49.42 | Vlad| | not a global API ;) |
| 14:49.46 | chiel | hmm |
| 14:49.50 | chiel | yeah |
| 14:50.09 | Vlad| | meaning if you have your frame object you do "myObj:CreateFontString" |
| 14:50.41 | Vlad| | just look at the lua_bot url :p |
| 14:51.33 | chiel | yeah, i know |
| 14:51.43 | chiel | just wanted to know what the arguments meant :) |
| 14:51.52 | Vlad| | :d |
| 14:51.59 | chiel | i got a thorough explanation in #lua yesterday about the difference between calling functions with : vs . |
| 14:52.06 | Vlad| | btw the AH needs overhauling |
| 14:52.12 | Vlad| | just putting it out there :P |
| 14:52.32 | chiel | AH? |
| 14:52.37 | chiel | you mean auction house? |
| 14:52.38 | Vlad| | need to be able to limit in gold ranges, and the new pet feature need to filter by rarity, owned filters, e.g. |
| 14:52.39 | Vlad| | yes |
| 14:53.26 | Vlad| | we need a better AH interface now ;D |
| 14:53.41 | Vlad| | if it wasn't for addons I use it would be horrible :P |
| 14:55.05 | chiel | :p |
| 14:55.07 | chiel | hmm |
| 14:55.10 | chiel | can't get the tag stuff to work |
| 14:55.12 | chiel | saf times |
| 14:55.13 | chiel | sad* |
| 14:56.32 | chiel | is there any way i can as oUF which tags it has defined? |
| 14:58.18 | chiel | yes |
| 14:58.20 | chiel | i got it |
| 14:58.21 | chiel | sweeeet |
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| 14:59.10 | chiel | atm i am using PostUpdate functions to update the health... i guess i could use Tags for that instead as well, is that correct? |
| 15:00.02 | haste | yep |
| 15:00.08 | chiel | awesome |
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| 15:17.29 | chiel | w00t |
| 15:17.41 | chiel | now it updated health properly as well through a tag \o/ |
| 15:19.34 | chiel | is there an api call to fetch the colour of the powerbar? |
| 15:19.55 | chiel | i mean, i could set it manually for rage and all that, but i'm thinking particularly pve encounters where they have custom colours |
| 15:21.32 | haste | !api UnitPowerType |
| 15:21.33 | lua_bot | UnitPowerType: Returns the power type (energy, mana, rage) of the given unit (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitPowerType) |
| 15:21.50 | haste | oUF already handles this tho' |
| 15:22.02 | chiel | oh |
| 15:22.06 | haste | https://github.com/haste/oUF/blob/master/elements/power.lua#L28-L35 |
| 15:22.17 | chiel | ah cool |
| 15:22.25 | chiel | so I just call that on the poewr bar? |
| 15:22.29 | chiel | power* |
| 15:22.46 | haste | powerBar.powerColor = true -- and oUF does the rest |
| 15:22.56 | chiel | awesome |
| 15:23.10 | chiel | so frame.Power.powerColor = true I guess |
| 15:23.27 | haste | yep |
| 15:23.36 | chiel | awesome |
| 15:23.38 | chiel | thanks a ton |
| 15:23.43 | chiel | it's so helpful having you here, haha |
| 15:23.49 | chiel | i was reading the wiki on github yesterday |
| 15:23.53 | chiel | but it was a bit scarce |
| 15:24.12 | haste | yeah, I was going to replace the wiki with a github page |
| 15:24.26 | haste | but *cough* I've been procrastinating that a while now |
| 15:24.42 | chiel | haha |
| 15:24.43 | chiel | :D |
| 15:24.47 | chiel | well i can't blame you |
| 15:24.56 | chiel | you have to actually *play* as well! :D |
| 15:25.37 | chiel | god the default (blizzard) colour for mana clashes so hard with so many other colours. :D |
| 15:25.46 | haste | you can generate the docs with: lua utils/docs elements/* |
| 15:25.57 | haste | in the oUF folder |
| 15:26.01 | chiel | ah cool |
| 15:26.05 | chiel | but i am on windows atm |
| 15:26.07 | chiel | :( |
| 15:26.21 | haste | lua utils\docs elements\* # :---D ? |
| 15:26.29 | chiel | :p |
| 15:26.49 | chiel | is embedding ouf hard? |
| 15:26.56 | haste | nah |
| 15:27.19 | chiel | in the future i'd like this all to be self-contained |
| 15:27.26 | chiel | will just submodule the oUF repo in that case |
| 15:27.35 | haste | throw into somewhere into your add-on, add the xml to your TOC, refer to it through the internalNamespace.oUF |
| 15:28.49 | chiel | ah yeah, and X-oUF header right? |
| 15:29.01 | haste | only if you want a custom global for it |
| 15:29.16 | haste | I block people for using oUF as global as well |
| 15:30.03 | chiel | hmm |
| 15:30.14 | chiel | i don't really know what that means :p |
| 15:30.33 | haste | it basically means you can't embed oUF and use external plugins/layouts |
| 15:31.01 | chiel | ah fair enough |
| 15:31.08 | chiel | i don't need that anyway :) |
| 15:31.08 | haste | you get really funky results when you have 2-3 addons embedding oUF with oUF as global + external plugins |
| 15:31.17 | chiel | hah yeah, i can imagine |
| 15:31.29 | chiel | so to color a font object by class |
| 15:31.36 | chiel | font string* |
| 15:31.41 | chiel | i would just colorClass = true? |
| 15:31.48 | haste | no, that only works on the bar |
| 15:31.52 | chiel | ah |
| 15:31.54 | haste | there's a [raidcolor] tag however |
| 15:31.59 | chiel | hm |
| 15:32.18 | chiel | say i want to color only actual players by class, not npcs |
| 15:32.22 | chiel | how would i achieve that? |
| 15:32.36 | haste | custom tag :P |
| 15:32.38 | chiel | at the moment i hav a FontString |
| 15:32.41 | chiel | have* |
| 15:32.43 | chiel | ah ok |
| 15:32.49 | chiel | right so I have a [name] tag |
| 15:32.56 | haste | you can use other tags in tags as well |
| 15:32.59 | Sintacks | anyone know of a way to find out when a toon was made ... |
| 15:33.00 | chiel | but how would I apply the colour to the string? |
| 15:33.05 | Sintacks | kind of like the info /ginfo gives you |
| 15:33.35 | karl_w_w | damn |
| 15:33.55 | karl_w_w | hate it when u find a battle pet u dont have, then one of his wingmen is a rare |
| 15:34.05 | karl_w_w | how do you decide which to tame :( |
| 15:34.07 | haste | you can either color the entire string with one color or embed the color in the string through |ccffrrggbbText|r |
| 15:34.12 | karl_w_w | trap* |
| 15:34.24 | chiel | hm |
| 15:34.25 | chiel | crap |
| 15:34.44 | haste | you could make a custom tag that outputs the color you want |
| 15:35.33 | haste | tag functions also have a custom environment, so you can call Hex(r, g, b) to get the hex string |
| 15:35.43 | chiel | ah i see |
| 15:35.45 | haste | as well as Hex(tbl) |
| 15:35.47 | chiel | and then embed that into the string |
| 15:36.02 | haste | yep |
| 15:36.09 | chiel | so in my [name] tag function, i can check if it's a player by calling IsPlayer(unit) |
| 15:36.22 | haste | !api IsPlayer |
| 15:36.23 | lua_bot | Found 5 possible results for 'IsPlayer': IsPlayerNeutral, IsPlayerInWorld, C_PetBattles.IsPlayerNPC, UnitIsPlayer, IsPlayerSpell |
| 15:36.25 | chiel | in the case it's a player, how do I get the class colour? |
| 15:36.30 | haste | UnitIsPlayer is probably better |
| 15:36.36 | chiel | ah ok |
| 15:36.47 | haste | https://github.com/haste/oUF/blob/master/elements/tags.lua#L117-L122 |
| 15:37.23 | chiel | !api UnitClass |
| 15:37.24 | lua_bot | UnitClass: Returns a unit's class (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitClass) |
| 15:37.25 | haste | _COLORS is a dynamic variable with self.colors |
| 15:38.00 | chiel | hmm |
| 15:38.19 | chiel | when you assign something to _ |
| 15:38.27 | chiel | is that usually cause it's a variable you don't use? |
| 15:38.32 | chiel | does it have a special meaning in Lua? |
| 15:38.53 | haste | _ is just a normal variable |
| 15:39.01 | haste | just a common thing to call the throwaway ones |
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| 15:41.09 | haste | Fisker: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/11/17/sorry-santa-google-cancels-december-in-android-4-2/ :-D |
| 15:41.16 | Fisker | however old |
| 15:41.20 | haste | oh u |
| 15:41.55 | haste | suddenly, quake live |
| 15:43.34 | chiel | fair enough :) |
| 15:46.00 | chiel | so i could then concat, for example, `Hex() .. UnitClass()` |
| 15:46.09 | chiel | but how does the string go back to the "regular" colour? |
| 15:46.43 | chiel | i don't really need that, just curious :p |
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| 15:59.08 | chiel | is there an easy(-ish) way to hide actionbars in lua? |
| 15:59.17 | chiel | atm I have bartender installed only to hide my bars :p |
| 15:59.20 | chiel | seems like overkill |
| 16:04.32 | haste | with "|r| |
| 16:04.38 | haste | s/|$/"/ |
| 16:05.12 | chiel | ah k, cool |
| 16:05.36 | chiel | so "|r" ? :p |
| 16:05.43 | haste | yes |
| 16:05.50 | chiel | woohoo |
| 16:06.08 | Vlad| | lol |
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| 16:06.27 | chiel | too bad lua does not support regular regex :p |
| 16:06.38 | Vlad| | isn't |r to stop the color tag? |
| 16:06.44 | haste | it is |
| 16:07.04 | chiel | i was just seeing if i interpreted the regex correctly :p |
| 16:07.12 | haste | I'm kinda glad Lua doesn't support PCRE :) |
| 16:07.27 | Vlad| | why glad, haste? |
| 16:07.36 | chiel | I am just familiar with that, that's all :p |
| 16:08.05 | haste | Vlad|: because regexps feel like temporary solutions in most cases |
| 16:08.12 | haste | and they're horrible to maintain |
| 16:08.17 | Vlad| | I just find it weird to say stuff like "I am glad X isn't supported" :P |
| 16:08.30 | haste | also, PCRE is huge |
| 16:08.52 | Vlad| | does it mater when you have a i5 CPU and 1Ghz busspeed 16GB ram e.g. e.g. :P? |
| 16:09.08 | Vlad| | my machine is from 2008 and now I see hot damn my hardware is old :D |
| 16:09.09 | chiel | what's the easiest way to colour a string by hostility? I guess that's also somewhere in _COLORS ? |
| 16:09.23 | haste | it matters when Lua is mainly used as an embedded language Vlad| |
| 16:09.26 | Vlad| | you have the interface code files right, chiel? |
| 16:09.32 | haste | chiel: by reaction |
| 16:09.37 | chiel | Vlad|: how you do you mean? |
| 16:09.40 | haste | ~framexml |
| 16:09.41 | purl | somebody said framexml was Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console or open 'World of Warcraft.app' --args -console after game loads press ~ and enter commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 16:09.57 | Vlad| | but isn't code from the lua files converted to efficient bytecode before it starts to run - i.e. making it very efficient? |
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| 16:10.15 | Vlad| | many stuff like hostility colors and such are tables or data in the default UI files |
| 16:10.19 | Vlad| | so you can borrow their globals :) |
| 16:10.25 | chiel | yeah |
| 16:10.27 | Vlad| | and get what you need from their files |
| 16:10.30 | chiel | so _COLORS.reaction in this sense? |
| 16:10.41 | Vlad| | not sure atm :P just saying |
| 16:10.50 | chiel | !api UnitReaction |
| 16:10.50 | lua_bot | UnitReaction: Returns the reaction of one unit with regards to another as a number (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitReaction) |
| 16:10.50 | haste | Vlad|: only the lua part is converted to bytecode for the interepter |
| 16:11.02 | Vlad| | one part of making addons is actually reading how blizzard does it and it helps you learn new things too :D |
| 16:11.20 | chiel | i suppose yeah |
| 16:11.24 | Vlad| | I would guess that you need to use the API in combination with some global table :P |
| 16:11.25 | chiel | i am reading other people's addons :p |
| 16:11.27 | Vlad| | you just gotta find it |
| 16:11.30 | chiel | yeah |
| 16:11.34 | chiel | same as class colour |
| 16:11.36 | haste | chiel: in oUF tags _COLORS.reaction will work |
| 16:11.41 | Vlad| | look in the constants.lua file |
| 16:12.11 | Vlad| | haste: I am just saying, if you have the api available and you only use it when you really need to, it's not a performance loss :D |
| 16:12.26 | Vlad| | it's up to us to code our shit properly :P |
| 16:12.39 | chiel | yeah, i am in an oUF tag |
| 16:12.56 | Vlad| | didn't know of that tag :P was thinking regular lua hehe |
| 16:13.08 | chiel | so UnitReaction('player', unit) it seems, and then i toss the output of that into _COLORS.reaction[] |
| 16:13.10 | haste | Vlad|: the purpose of Lua is to be easy embeddeble tho' |
| 16:13.26 | Vlad| | but it still is even when they add new api and such right? :) |
| 16:13.29 | haste | Vlad|: and adding three times it size in compiled binary just to get regexps seems kinda backwards, especially when most people don't need it |
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| 16:13.35 | Vlad| | ofc :P |
| 16:13.57 | Vlad| | I just assumed the regex lib would be like 250kB or 500kB max in size :P |
| 16:14.01 | Vlad| | tiny :3 |
| 16:14.25 | haste | not always so no embedded devices :P |
| 16:14.28 | chiel | woohoo, got it working :D |
| 16:14.31 | Vlad| | grats |
| 16:14.41 | chiel | i am starting to get the hang of this stuff now. |
| 16:14.48 | Vlad| | I wrote my own lua engine in java :P |
| 16:14.59 | Vlad| | I mean I used a lib and made my own calls :P |
| 16:15.00 | Vlad| | was kind of fun |
| 16:15.04 | Vlad| | just to test it out :) |
| 16:15.23 | Vlad| | made a frame like widget with it's own events and such, now I know how blizzard feels :p |
| 16:15.33 | Xuerian | HEY XUERIAN WANT TO SLEEP |
| 16:15.37 | Xuerian | WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF |
| 16:15.38 | Vlad| | hi Xuerian |
| 16:15.40 | Xuerian | TOO BAD WOOF |
| 16:15.41 | haste | hey Xuerian |
| 16:15.43 | Vlad| | what's up? |
| 16:15.44 | Xuerian | murders things. |
| 16:15.59 | haste | hey Xuerian, listen! hey! hey! hey! hey listen! Xuerian?! |
| 16:16.09 | Vlad| | hey! hey! hey! hey! hey! |
| 16:16.28 | Xuerian | It would be funny if it weren't true |
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| 16:17.03 | haste | only 34 hours left on my music players queue... |
| 16:17.42 | Xuerian | doesn't even know how long http://youtube-playlist-randomizer.valami.info/playlist.php?pl%5B%5D=http%3A%2F%2Fgdata.youtube.com%2Ffeeds%2Fapi%2Fplaylists%2FPLA11538113C16891A%3Fv%3D2 is |
| 16:17.58 | Vlad| | :p |
| 16:18.10 | haste | youtube has too many shitty transcodes :( |
| 16:18.37 | Xuerian | Eh, this uploader does pretty good quality ones |
| 16:20.20 | Vlad| | I think the google video qualities were even worse by the end of the google video service lifetime |
| 16:20.40 | Vlad| | I got to copy my uploaded files, but when I watch it, damn it's like 240x something resolution LOL |
| 16:20.43 | Vlad| | it's so crappy :P |
| 16:23.15 | haste | oh hi soundcloud beta |
| 16:23.41 | Vlad| | just curious, aren't services like streaming music online bound to get sued and closed? |
| 16:23.44 | Vlad| | like groveshark something |
| 16:23.59 | Vlad| | you can listen to music for free :P i.e. lawsuit inc. at some point I bet. |
| 16:24.14 | haste | don't most of them hide behind the whole "users are uploading content" thingy? |
| 16:24.28 | Vlad| | perhaps, and earning money from ads :P |
| 16:24.47 | Vlad| | and when it is too late they ban everything and comply and leave with pockets full of cash - unless charged ofc :P |
| 16:25.25 | Xuerian | Well, soundcloud is all voluntary uploads (more or less) |
| 16:25.46 | haste | I have some CDs I need to rip, but so lazy~ |
| 16:25.47 | Xuerian | And a lot of artists get that their music + internet = more sales |
| 16:26.02 | haste | luckily |
| 16:26.15 | Xuerian | Thankfully it's a number that will only go up over time |
| 16:26.35 | haste | https://soundcloud.com/methlab-recordings/gore-tech-meth-lab-mixtape clearly the perfect quake live music |
| 16:26.38 | haste | swoosh |
| 16:26.41 | Xuerian | So long as we don't let them coup de grâce the internet |
| 16:29.52 | Vlad| | Xuerian you can't be american right? |
| 16:30.04 | Xuerian | Why's that? |
| 16:30.05 | Vlad| | being able to type accents is a rare gift on the interwebs :P |
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| 16:30.24 | Xuerian | I figured it was worth google-copy-pasting |
| 16:30.27 | Vlad| | :P |
| 16:30.31 | Vlad| | I had french |
| 16:30.36 | Vlad| | so I learned all the modifiers :P |
| 16:30.38 | Vlad| | it's very easy |
| 16:30.40 | Xuerian | :P |
| 16:31.10 | Vlad| | but I keep amazing people that don't know about what capabilities their keyboards have :P |
| 16:31.21 | Vlad| | people think they know their computers but they only know so little ^^ |
| 16:31.54 | Vlad| | like on job description is says "needs knowledge of microsoft office suite" but in fact they know very little :P like the basics only. if you ask them to make tables, footer/header, excel formulas, they get lost :P |
| 16:32.11 | Xuerian | map(everything_ever, log[-2) |
| 16:33.36 | pompy | 8th anniversary achievements being handed out |
| 16:33.45 | Xuerian | Eh screw that |
| 16:33.50 | Xuerian | I missed the onxyia whelpling |
| 16:33.58 | Xuerian | And that was the last anniversary thing worth getting |
| 16:36.19 | pompy | yeah all we get is an xp/rep boost thing |
| 16:36.22 | pompy | lame!! |
| 16:36.23 | pompy | heh |
| 16:37.21 | chiel | HM |
| 16:37.33 | chiel | if i want to create boss frames, is there any good way of testing those? :p |
| 16:45.53 | chiel | hmm |
| 16:46.01 | chiel | trying to create the alt mana bar for druid |
| 16:46.05 | chiel | but it doesn't seem to be working \ |
| 16:46.06 | chiel | : < |
| 16:47.41 | chiel | ah, i guess it needs a PostUpdate |
| 16:47.47 | chiel | to determine when it should be visible? |
| 16:50.54 | chiel | ahh got it |
| 16:50.55 | chiel | sweeet :D |
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| 17:08.52 | karl_w_w | oh look, captcha on youtube comments |
| 17:21.43 | Xuerian | chiel: The easiest way to handle that sort of thing is to make a third bar for auxiliary power, and just set it to a ratio of stage-based resources. (ex shards * 100, holy power * 100, etc). Has a bonus of being simple and working with Smooth. |
| 17:25.21 | chiel | Xuerian: hmm... i have no idea what smooth is. :p |
| 17:25.34 | Xuerian | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11503-oUFSmoothUpdate.html |
| 17:25.53 | chiel | ah right |
| 17:25.55 | chiel | so it animates |
| 17:25.58 | chiel | i don't want that anyway :p |
| 17:26.02 | Xuerian | Pff. |
| 17:26.14 | chiel | I want to see instantly if I will, tyvm xD |
| 17:26.36 | Xuerian | shrugs. |
| 17:28.47 | chiel | if I will die* |
| 17:29.06 | chiel | I tank, and in the past the smooth animation has kinda annoyed me, especially when you suddenly take a huge blow |
| 17:29.59 | chiel | but yeah the way I did the druid mana bar now is to create a power bar that gets assigned to frame.DruidMana |
| 17:30.33 | Xuerian | chiel: I tank and heal, and it bothers me to see it flickering all over the place :p |
| 17:30.46 | chiel | haha, fair enough :p |
| 17:30.54 | Xuerian | If I'm going to die, the 1/3 second is probably not going to [kill|save] me anyway :p |
| 17:30.59 | chiel | i just want to be able to see instantly :) |
| 17:31.04 | chiel | well, nah |
| 17:31.12 | chiel | but it means i can pop last stand for example |
| 17:31.24 | Xuerian | Shrug. I can see what you're saying. |
| 17:31.27 | chiel | it just registers slower for my brain when it goes slow |
| 17:31.36 | chiel | if you're used to it, it's probably no difference |
| 17:35.30 | haste | chiel: I skinned boss frames by temporarily spawning them as player :) |
| 17:36.27 | chiel | ah |
| 17:36.28 | chiel | hm |
| 17:36.41 | chiel | i will have to figure out how to do that at some point then :p |
| 17:37.08 | haste | make it its own style, active it, spawn player frame |
| 17:37.14 | chiel | yeah |
| 17:37.19 | chiel | the way i load styles is kinda... weird |
| 17:37.37 | chiel | but i'm sure i can do that :) |
| 17:39.04 | chiel | anyway, gotta run now, got a dinner party |
| 17:39.07 | chiel | catch you guys later. |
| 17:39.24 | chiel | and thanks again for all the help so far! |
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| 17:40.03 | Xuerian | chiel: Later. |
| 17:48.25 | Fisker | haste |
| 17:48.26 | Vlad| | this is odd, but, since some patch in cata, I feel that "smooth" frames are not smooth, on my end they appear like having low fps :P |
| 17:48.40 | Vlad| | any explanation? was thinking of the pitbull4 smoothing frames |
| 17:48.58 | Vlad| | to be honest since then I've turned that feature off, so maybe it is fixed now, but I am sure someone knows something on the matter :P |
| 17:53.44 | Vlad| | random bartender buttons, the cooldown overlay bugs out :P new issue with mop ^^ |
| 17:53.49 | Vlad| | maybe I gotta update bartender lol |
| 17:54.03 | Vlad| | maybe it's the cd timers |
| 18:00.47 | karl_w_w | bartender has a cd overlay? |
| 18:07.17 | Gnarfoz | it doesn't |
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| 18:09.10 | Xuerian | Vlad|: Pitbull uses a separate method than oUF_Smooth |
| 18:09.14 | Xuerian | Last I checked, anyway |
| 18:10.06 | Vlad| | omnicc something has :p |
| 18:10.21 | Vlad| | I know but I assumed they use the animation group api stuff |
| 18:10.35 | karl_w_w | i use bartender and omnicc and have no problems |
| 18:10.48 | karl_w_w | well, apart from those few bartender quirks we all ignore :P |
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| 18:18.52 | Gnarfoz | karl_w_w: such as? |
| 18:21.22 | karl_w_w | the only one i can think of atm is the bag icon being out of place in the default layout :P |
| 18:22.21 | Vlad| | when did the festival today start in pandara? |
| 18:22.24 | Vlad| | 20 server time? |
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| 18:27.15 | karl_w_w | calendar should say Vlad| |
| 18:27.18 | Vlad| | nope |
| 18:27.45 | Vlad| | :P |
| 18:27.52 | Vlad| | the wanderer festival thing |
| 18:27.58 | Vlad| | Sunday night time |
| 18:28.09 | Vlad| | blizzard forgot to add it on the calendar :p |
| 18:28.34 | karl_w_w | oh that. not a clue. |
| 18:29.27 | Vlad| | was some issues with daylight saving time and such :P |
| 18:30.07 | Vlad| | POPQUIZ: how do you avoid dying when you fall into water with "waterwalking" effect on? |
| 18:31.05 | Vlad| | lol |
| 18:32.06 | alestane | Other than possibly pointing the camera straight down, or otherwise pointing your character's pitch down (not guaranteed to work), canceling the buff is your best bet. |
| 18:32.20 | Vlad| | correct alestane |
| 18:32.37 | Vlad| | setting the camera direction down helps you avoid dying :P |
| 18:32.49 | Vlad| | not just looking tough ;) |
| 18:33.01 | karl_w_w | iceblock. |
| 18:34.02 | Vlad| | I got the azure water strider and learned the hard way :P |
| 18:34.03 | Vlad| | haha |
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| 18:39.40 | Vlad| | heard about the Foxicopter? |
| 18:42.29 | Vlad| | http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/temp/Vlad-3-88802-489df0277d324dc3.jpg |
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| 18:50.42 | Vlad| | :( |
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| 18:59.18 | Vlad| | helooo? |
| 18:59.23 | Vlad| | hears a faint echo of himself. |
| 19:01.24 | alestane | /crickets |
| 19:07.16 | Vlad| | hi alestane what are you up to? |
| 19:10.02 | alestane | Programming a telephony routing system in Lua. |
| 19:10.15 | Vlad| | lol |
| 19:10.16 | Vlad| | for fun? :D |
| 19:10.25 | Vlad| | how do you test it? |
| 19:10.26 | Vlad| | simulation? |
| 19:10.29 | Vlad| | explain |
| 19:11.03 | Vlad| | or it's practical? |
| 19:11.21 | Stanzilla | I think Vlad| is bored |
| 19:11.24 | Vlad| | :3 |
| 19:11.37 | Vlad| | I haven't talked with anyone for a while, like, on some concrete subject, so, yes. |
| 19:11.48 | Vlad| | you guys get too drunk in the weekends |
| 19:11.55 | Vlad| | channel is almost dead :p |
| 19:12.34 | Gnarfoz | makes it sound like this is the only thing you can do |
| 19:12.58 | Vlad| | yes! |
| 19:13.01 | Vlad| | nah ofc not :p |
| 19:13.23 | Vlad| | been sick, throat is crap :( |
| 19:13.28 | Vlad| | feeling better today tough :) |
| 19:13.29 | alestane | It's contract work for a client who maintains a separate phone number that accesses the test version. |
| 19:14.27 | Vlad| | I am curious, how do you interface the hardware with the software logic? |
| 19:14.55 | Vlad| | your lua receives hardware events and you have API at your disposal to handle the requests and such I take it? |
| 19:17.05 | alestane | The software, freeSWITCH, includes an interface that exports several of its core functions into a Lua environment. |
| 19:17.33 | Vlad| | ah I see |
| 19:17.44 | Vlad| | VOIP |
| 19:19.33 | Vlad| | anyone saw the last twilight movie? |
| 19:19.38 | Vlad| | how was it? :3 |
| 19:19.58 | nevcairiel | not that i'm going to watch it, but its only starting in cinemas next week around here :p |
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| 19:23.10 | Vlad| | I doubt it will do poorly financially, too many people gonna see it, most just for the giggles I guess. |
| 19:26.52 | Vlad| | in a sad way it's us who watched the start for fun and to laugh, that sponsor the last movies :P |
| 19:27.22 | Vlad| | excuse me if the women liked it ofc, I just assumed they don't like it that much, just the naked males :p |
| 19:34.17 | Gnarfoz | you can't know a lot of women |
| 19:34.23 | Vlad| | it's true :P |
| 19:34.26 | Gnarfoz | because many of them actually like it |
| 19:34.36 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz is the only female I know |
| 19:34.44 | Gnarfoz | because it's sooooo romantic... and of course: vampires. |
| 19:34.46 | Vlad| | it just feels so, fake :P |
| 19:35.06 | Gnarfoz | the only thing you need to know about Twilight: http://theoatmeal.com/story/twilight |
| 19:35.26 | Vlad| | and the acting feels so wooden at sometimes, talking about the first movie, and bella was a really lame character, I hated her, she looks so egoistic >.< |
| 19:35.55 | Gnarfoz | actually, there's another thing: the movies are actually better than the books |
| 19:37.16 | Vlad| | isn't twilight like those romance novels that accompany these "home" magazines? :P |
| 19:37.30 | Gnarfoz | don't know what you're talking about now |
| 19:37.34 | Vlad| | well |
| 19:38.29 | Vlad| | https://www.google.com/search?rlz=&q=romance+novels&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=JjmpUJrLB-So4gSCsoHgBQ&biw=1262&bih=881&sei=KDmpUKSUFaz14QTeloHoAw |
| 19:38.34 | Vlad| | basically those kind of covers :P |
| 19:39.04 | Vlad| | never read one, but I assume it's probably like twilight :P that's how I feel according to how theoatmeal describes it lol |
| 19:39.25 | Gnarfoz | ...still no idea what you meant with magazines. you just put "romance nocels" into google image search |
| 19:39.44 | Vlad| | lol |
| 19:39.44 | Vlad| | ok |
| 19:39.48 | Vlad| | let me google that for you too |
| 19:40.03 | Vlad| | https://www.google.com/search?rlz=&q=hjemmet&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=iTmpUPzxKqn54QTVrYFA&biw=1262&bih=881&sei=izmpUPj_EOr74QTirYDwDg |
| 19:40.03 | Gnarfoz | too? |
| 19:40.09 | Gnarfoz | the first one didn't make sense :p |
| 19:40.10 | Vlad| | typical magazine for ladies :P |
| 19:40.24 | Vlad| | I just know a lot of romance novels are accompanied with these types of magazines |
| 19:40.39 | Gnarfoz | accompanied with? you buy a magazine and get a book, too? |
| 19:40.42 | Vlad| | yes |
| 19:40.44 | Gnarfoz | what are you talking about, man :D |
| 19:40.45 | Vlad| | sometimes they do that |
| 19:40.46 | Vlad| | lol |
| 19:40.57 | Gnarfoz | ok, Norway is now officially crazy! :p |
| 19:40.57 | Vlad| | I give up |
| 19:41.13 | Vlad| | it's a woman magazine and they put in books about romance, how hard is that to understand? :P |
| 19:41.20 | Vlad| | I am sure they bundle DVDs with some magazines in US |
| 19:41.28 | Gnarfoz | it's hard to understand because it doesn't make sense to put a book into a magazine |
| 19:41.33 | Vlad| | same shit only woman magazine so they make it a romance novel instead of a DVD :P |
| 19:41.57 | haste | Norway isn't crazy |
| 19:41.58 | Vlad| | I don't know how to draw a pararell into an american setting |
| 19:42.04 | haste | we're perfectly sane |
| 19:42.16 | Gnarfoz | I'm German, for what it's worth, american would probably make just as little sense ;) |
| 19:42.22 | Vlad| | :p |
| 19:42.25 | Vlad| | then it's weird |
| 19:42.33 | Vlad| | I am sure germans have the same type of magazines too |
| 19:42.55 | Gnarfoz | sure, but I still don't see how putting a book (thick) into a magazine (thin) makes any sense |
| 19:42.58 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:43.09 | Vlad| | sigh |
| 19:43.21 | Gnarfoz | buy one, get one free? ^^ |
| 19:43.38 | Vlad| | you know how sometimes your nerd magazines put random stuff in the packaging as a bonus? |
| 19:43.40 | Vlad| | same thing |
| 19:43.45 | Vlad| | I don't see how it's so hard to grasp |
| 19:44.01 | Vlad| | get your shit together germany, no wonder the russians are beating you! |
| 19:44.13 | Gnarfoz | (at what?) |
| 19:44.19 | Vlad| | don't know, something :p |
| 19:44.50 | Gnarfoz | and, just like I said, I just think a book (several cm thick) kind of exceeds the form factor of stuff that would be bundled with a magazine, that's all |
| 19:45.50 | Gnarfoz | now, be useful and spawn some of these rare items for Lost and Found |
| 19:46.33 | Vlad| | you know, when you look for something it's never there, but if you don't it's there - apply that and stop looking for the achievement objectives and before you know it BOM you get it unexpectedly |
| 19:46.49 | Gnarfoz | ...yeah, that's not how this works |
| 19:47.05 | Vlad| | sure it does - I randomly got mine by just farming some stuff :p |
| 19:47.12 | Gnarfoz | got yours? 20 of them? |
| 19:47.22 | Vlad| | nope, just one |
| 19:47.25 | Vlad| | I cba to farm 20 |
| 19:47.26 | Mr_Rabies | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7178648245 lollll |
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| 19:48.04 | Vlad| | still, it is a problem |
| 19:48.15 | Vlad| | why are people exploiting the rated BGs and arenas? |
| 19:48.27 | nevcairiel | because they can |
| 19:48.31 | Vlad| | reading on mmowned it appears to have been around for a while, and stll no fix :P |
| 19:48.34 | nevcairiel | give them something to exploit, and they will |
| 19:48.46 | Vlad| | usually when someone finds a bug the devs fix it |
| 19:48.47 | Vlad| | ;) |
| 19:49.05 | Gnarfoz | you mean, usually when someone REPORTS a bug, the devs fix it |
| 19:49.33 | Gnarfoz | (although I'm not sure if/why Blizz wouldn't have someone reading those sites all day) |
| 19:49.34 | Vlad| | oh I am sure it has been reported long ago |
| 19:49.41 | Mr_Rabies | they do, Gnarfoz |
| 19:49.48 | Vlad| | I am sure they do, it's not exactly restricted :P |
| 19:49.53 | Mr_Rabies | they have accounts on pretty much all the blizzard exploiting sites |
| 19:50.02 | Mr_Rabies | and other games |
| 19:50.08 | Gnarfoz | you sound pretty sure of that for no apparent reason ^^ |
| 19:50.13 | Gnarfoz | except that it'd be common sense |
| 19:50.23 | Mr_Rabies | it may not be something hotfixable |
| 19:50.26 | Gnarfoz | however, if they have accounts there, then why the hell does any of that crap still work :D |
| 19:50.32 | Mr_Rabies | a friend of mine gets involved in all that stuff |
| 19:50.34 | Gnarfoz | nobody said anything about hotfixes ;) |
| 19:50.38 | Vlad| | are there exploits with ranking in starcraft2? |
| 19:53.13 | Vlad| | oh well |
| 19:53.42 | Vlad| | anyone saw the foxcopter? |
| 19:53.45 | Mr_Rabies | i'm glad blizzard fixed the invincible bug |
| 19:53.56 | Vlad| | remind me what it was again |
| 19:53.58 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, you can buy a foxcopter |
| 19:54.10 | Mr_Rabies | well, not really invincible, just invincible used it most |
| 19:54.32 | Mr_Rabies | at one point, the client could tell the server to give it (or complete, not sure) any quest |
| 19:54.39 | Mr_Rabies | er wait |
| 19:54.42 | Mr_Rabies | crimson deathcharger |
| 19:54.47 | Vlad| | ah lol |
| 19:54.54 | Mr_Rabies | that's how there were so many of those on the AH for a while |
| 19:54.56 | Vlad| | I remember a bug with portals and trading |
| 19:55.03 | Vlad| | I thought that's how it was |
| 19:55.05 | Vlad| | people could clone items |
| 19:55.16 | Vlad| | trade and enter a portal and both you and the other guy you trade got the item |
| 19:55.28 | Vlad| | that's how I assumed people cloned those BoE items :) |
| 19:55.35 | Mr_Rabies | oh god, that's a big issue too |
| 19:55.42 | Vlad| | it was fixed |
| 19:55.47 | Vlad| | but god knows how many iems were cloned |
| 19:55.47 | Vlad| | :D |
| 19:55.54 | Mr_Rabies | kind of amazing how some of this stuff pops up |
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| 20:00.03 | Vlad| | event starts in 1 min |
| 20:03.17 | Gnarfoz | what event, even |
| 20:03.29 | Mr_Rabies | reminds me, anything new for pilgrim's bounty this year? |
| 20:05.28 | Vlad| | I think the pilgrim event is untouched |
| 20:05.29 | Vlad| | :P |
| 20:05.36 | Vlad| | it's the dreamwandererthing |
| 20:05.37 | Stanzilla | like you |
| 20:05.43 | Vlad| | [Wanderers, Dreamers, and You] |
| 20:06.05 | Vlad| | why do you hate me Stanzilla? |
| 20:06.25 | Vlad| | I can't remember you saying one positive thing about me, only saying my character names are weird :P lol |
| 20:09.28 | Vlad| | oh yeah got nothing to say to me Stan? thought so. |
| 20:15.27 | Vlad| | wonder if prat3 got with the times and added {group1} {g1} tags :P |
| 20:21.57 | Gnarfoz | what are those supposed to do |
| 20:22.13 | Gnarfoz | also, you probably remind him of Amarande, just with less words per line |
| 20:22.35 | Vlad| | {g1} would print [Name1, Name2, Name3] of said group |
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| 20:32.24 | Vlad| | http://www.mmobash.com/temp_images/a8b5dd4ec017c2c5e198817a5edc7e94.jpg I lol'd |
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| 20:57.55 | kd3 | wtf; http://i.imgur.com/v6IlY.jpg |
| 20:58.27 | mikma | coolbus |
| 21:08.26 | zenzelezz | http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/244/244326/24432645/jpg/active/978x.jpg - wings covered by ice due to being filled with cold fuel in an area not prone to performing deicing... solution? Whiskey |
| 21:10.45 | Mr_Rabies | why whiskey and not like....antifreeze? O_o |
| 21:10.57 | kd3 | probably because whiskey's cheaper to come by? |
| 21:11.04 | Mr_Rabies | isn't whiskey near hot engines a pretty bad idea? |
| 21:11.14 | mikma | why a black man without safetyvests and not a white man with vest |
| 21:11.24 | kd3 | it's on the trailing flaps/control surfaces... if it was in front of the engines... |
| 21:11.38 | zenzelezz | Mr_Rabies: because the area is "not prone to performing deicing" |
| 21:11.47 | nebula169 | they just found the first dude they saw drinking whiskey and were like "so, wanna help us out?" |
| 21:11.50 | zenzelezz | it's in an area where snow and ice is basically a non-issue |
| 21:11.52 | Mr_Rabies | give me the whiskey instead and i'll come up with a solution to de-ice it |
| 21:12.30 | Mr_Rabies | i can't assure you it'll be a good decision, depending on how much whiskey we're talking about |
| 21:12.35 | Mr_Rabies | but it'll probably look pretty cool |
| 21:12.55 | Vlad| | when kd3 posts a url everyone looks, when I do it no one says anything xD I feel alone :( |
| 21:12.59 | zenzelezz | only reason the wings were freezing was because they were filled to the brim with fuel, since the airline is basically going bankrupt tonight unless a miracle occurs |
| 21:13.51 | Mr_Rabies | which airline :op |
| 21:13.53 | Mr_Rabies | :o* |
| 21:13.56 | Mr_Rabies | fatfinger'd |
| 21:14.07 | zenzelezz | SAS (largest Scandinavian) |
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| 21:14.21 | Mr_Rabies | ah |
| 21:14.56 | Vlad| | we need concorde v2 |
| 21:15.02 | Mr_Rabies | i'm surprised the US airline industry isn't tanking more |
| 21:15.08 | Mr_Rabies | i haven't flown since 2001 |
| 21:15.20 | Mr_Rabies | don't plan to unless it's to leave the country |
| 21:15.27 | Mr_Rabies | for good |
| 21:15.50 | Vlad| | hmm |
| 21:16.02 | Vlad| | grass is greener or it's that bad in US for you? |
| 21:16.25 | Vlad| | friend from UK moved to Canaada :) |
| 21:16.34 | Vlad| | he hated it back home he said |
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| 21:17.52 | Vlad| | hi Seerah :) |
| 21:17.55 | Vlad| | pick of the week? :D |
| 21:18.50 | zenzelezz | I'd pick Seerah every week |
| 21:19.36 | mikma | any suggestions for freeware dvd (backup/ripper)? |
| 21:20.08 | Seerah | Vlad|: I just got home from grocery shopping. I'll get to it. |
| 21:20.24 | Vlad| | 22:20 here so no worries :P |
| 21:20.32 | Seerah | 3:20 here |
| 21:20.33 | Seerah | :p |
| 21:20.41 | mikma | lol you're a swede |
| 21:20.48 | Seerah | (well, 15:20) |
| 21:20.49 | mikma | you too, seerah |
| 21:24.56 | Vlad| | what do we do with sea monsters, Semlar? |
| 21:33.17 | Vlad| | btw when I am mounted and I rightclick a object like quest item |
| 21:33.22 | Vlad| | I start to loot and get "interrupted" -_- |
| 21:33.28 | Vlad| | so I have to click again.. what gives? |
| 21:40.56 | Mr_Rabies | <Vlad|> grass is greener or it's that bad in US for you? |
| 21:41.09 | Mr_Rabies | i just don't really want to deal with the TSA's shenanigans unless i have to |
| 21:41.42 | nebula169 | you're letting the tsa win! |
| 21:43.29 | Vlad| | what is TSA? |
| 21:43.56 | nebula169 | the american agency that takes pics of your junk when you travel |
| 21:44.05 | Vlad| | :p |
| 21:54.00 | Vlad| | didn't I link a comic strip earley |
| 21:54.02 | Vlad| | earlier |
| 21:54.14 | Vlad| | get a bonner before youget in the scanner :3 |
| 21:54.20 | Vlad| | to make it uncomfortable for them :P |
| 21:55.52 | Vlad| | (offtopic: Sacred Shield should have a minor glyph to make it auto-refresh on the target with the buff until manually canceled) |
| 21:56.03 | Vlad| | it's a free to cast spell that lasts 30 sec, just a pain to remember to reapply :P |
| 22:01.24 | Vlad| | hi Cairenn - here to yell at me? :( |
| 22:01.29 | Cairenn | no? |
| 22:03.12 | Vlad| | phew |
| 22:06.29 | Vlad| | I seriously need a job or a girlfriend |
| 22:06.39 | Vlad| | with no uni now it's sooo little to do |
| 22:06.41 | kd3 | but you repeat yourself |
| 22:07.01 | Vlad| | always |
| 22:11.20 | Vlad| | is it a bad thing, kd3? |
| 22:11.30 | kd3 | no, no... |
| 22:11.45 | kd3 | you said 'a job or a girlfriend', which sure sounds like the same thing to me... >.> |
| 22:12.16 | Vlad| | lol |
| 22:12.17 | Vlad| | :P |
| 22:12.34 | Vlad| | well I do work spare time but it's too little :( |
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| 22:12.42 | Vlad| | hoping I get this full time job that I applied to |
| 22:12.46 | Vlad| | it's me versus 3 other guys |
| 22:12.48 | Vlad| | so I am praying :P |
| 22:14.07 | Vlad| | I admit the idea of having someone to snuggle with is nice :p |
| 22:14.20 | Vlad| | job and a girl at once, not too sure atm :p |
| 22:14.49 | Vlad| | tbh I haven't dated yet... was too busy with my own stuff all the time :/ |
| 22:15.15 | Vlad| | next year we have a reunion so I hope my hard work and sacrificing dating for studies pays off :P |
| 22:17.43 | Vlad| | when did you start dating? :P |
| 22:17.49 | kd3 | tbh? college |
| 22:19.07 | kd3 | grr. wru rogues? |
| 22:19.12 | Vlad| | I am here :) |
| 22:19.14 | kd3 | I'm standing outside org and I can't find a single orc rogue |
| 22:19.54 | Fisker | what server kd3 ? |
| 22:19.59 | kd3 | medivh us |
| 22:22.00 | Fisker | nope i'm terrible |
| 22:23.55 | Fisker | or maybe i'm not |
| 22:24.36 | Vlad| | :< |
| 22:25.21 | Fisker | where you at kd3 ? |
| 22:25.39 | kd3 | already got it, omw to mulgore. should I turn around? |
| 22:26.00 | Fisker | not unless you need it? |
| 22:26.13 | kd3 | nah, not really. much appreciated, though |
| 22:26.43 | Fisker | now to un-fuck my installation again |
| 22:26.48 | Fisker | :D |
| 22:27.32 | Fisker | weird |
| 22:27.36 | Fisker | my account level i burning crusade |
| 22:27.49 | Fisker | shouldn't it technically be wrath of the lich king? |
| 22:37.16 | Vlad| | ehm |
| 22:37.24 | Vlad| | when was the last time you played wow? |
| 22:37.36 | Vlad| | 2006? |
| 22:40.00 | Fisker | no Vlad| |
| 22:40.00 | Fisker | 2012 |
| 22:40.21 | Vlad| | not sure what expansion they give you when you get vanilla now |
| 22:40.27 | kd3 | wrath |
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| 23:01.44 | chiel | hello again |
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| 23:03.58 | Vlad| | hi chiel |
| 23:04.55 | chiel | so, time to make some holy power frames for my little paladin :p |
| 23:05.01 | Vlad| | :3 |
| 23:05.53 | chiel | i have no idea to start, so it's time to cheat a little and peek at other people's work. |
| 23:06.14 | Vlad| | local f=CreateHolyPowerFrame() |
| 23:07.27 | chiel | :p |
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| 23:14.26 | chiel | hmm |
| 23:14.39 | chiel | I don't get how ClassIcons work in oUF |
| 23:14.43 | chiel | some magic stuff going on :D |
| 23:19.05 | chiel | ClassIcons are always 5 it seems |
| 23:19.36 | chiel | but hmm.. on my paladin I only have 3 Holy Power at the moment. |
| 23:19.52 | chiel | isn't there some variable which will denote how many ClassIcon elements there should be? |
| 23:33.46 | chiel | hm.. they're not showing up. :( |
| 23:34.04 | chiel | anyone have experience with oUF getting classicons to show up? (holy power, monk orbs etc) |
| 23:44.18 | kd3 | http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/11/december-conspicuously-missing-from-android-4-2s-people-app/ |
| 23:44.19 | kd3 | oops |
| 23:46.41 | Adys | theres a #starcitizen on here |
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| 23:58.09 | chiel | hmm |
| 23:58.23 | chiel | if I define a namespace for my functions in one file, and some functions in another file |
| 23:58.45 | chiel | the functions I try to use defined in the second file from the first file are not defined for some reason |
| 23:58.49 | chiel | any ideas? :/ |
| 23:59.07 | chiel | if I just copy the entire contents of the second file into the first file, it all works fine and dandy |
| 23:59.30 | Jitta | wrong order in toc file maybe? |
| 23:59.59 | chiel | oh, rofl, found it... some global was undefined which caused the entire file to not load |
