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| 02:35.59 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 02:35.59 | purl | ~pong |
| 02:38.50 | pompy1 | Shirik: crazy http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/09/us-usa-iran-drone-idUSBRE8A71C520121109 |
| 02:39.17 | Shirik | I am very amused by this today |
| 02:39.23 | Shirik | the fact that they missed is pretty hilarious |
| 02:39.44 | pompy1 | haha |
| 02:40.00 | Shirik | UAVs don't exactly have the maneuverability that F-35s do |
| 02:43.29 | pompy1 | "According to the Pentagon, two Soviet-designed SU-25 aircraft intercepted the Predator over Gulf waters about 16 nautical miles off the Iranian coast; international airspace begins at 12 nautical miles.After firing at the drone, the Iranian planes followed it for several miles as it moved further from Iranian airspace, the Pentagon said. Washington has issued a diplomatic protest to Iranian authorities." |
| 02:43.34 | pompy1 | soviet-designed, eh |
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| 02:50.07 | znf | ~wowalert |
| 02:50.07 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 02:51.33 | kd3 | heh. wow really does not like me killing hundreds of mobs at a time |
| 02:51.39 | kd3 | just did zombiefest in ~5 sec |
| 02:55.02 | pompy1 | hell, it "hangs" when its gunna show you an achievement earned by killing 345343 mobs. |
| 02:55.33 | pompy1 | speakin of, is there anything to use that can move where the achievement toasts pop? |
| 02:58.27 | tem | they pop based on the same anchor as the roll frame |
| 02:58.46 | znf | it lags every time it's supposed to show an achievement fo rme |
| 02:58.49 | znf | anyone else noticed that? |
| 02:59.10 | tem | the achievement frame itself is very laggy for me |
| 03:01.04 | znf | I mean, when I earn any achievement |
| 03:04.00 | tem | is cccp an abandonned project? |
| 03:04.06 | tem | the most recent release is from a year ago |
| 03:10.27 | iShirik | It became Russia a long time ago |
| 03:10.36 | Dagmar | Oh I'm sure there's still some die-hard proletarskis around somewhere |
| 03:12.05 | kd3 | hm. only 2 achieves left for [Glory of the Hero] |
| 03:12.07 | kd3 | maybe tomorrow |
| 03:12.39 | tem | slowpoke |
| 03:13.12 | kd3 | I would've had it today if I had remembered to turn off my water elemental for Respect Your Elders and Less-rabi |
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| 03:43.18 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: what do you think of the halo4 ending? |
| 03:43.32 | Arrowmaster | havent seen it yet |
| 03:43.38 | Arrowmaster | only on the 3rd level |
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| 04:39.08 | TC-Away | ~botsnack |
| 04:39.08 | purl | TC-Away: thanks |
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| 09:16.52 | Adys | Arrowmaster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8oiXrF9c6Q |
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| 09:46.01 | Adys | What's the easiest way to circumvent the youtube block from pakistan? |
| 09:46.17 | Adys | (tor isnt an option in this case) |
| 09:48.41 | AcidWeb | Overthrow government. |
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| 10:36.23 | starlon | Damnit. I wish you had a tab of macros for each spec. :/ |
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| 11:50.18 | wereHamster | Adys: you in pakistan? |
| 11:50.28 | Adys | no |
| 11:53.46 | jnwhiteh | wereHamster: you in Johannesburg? |
| 11:54.12 | Adys | jnwhiteh: you in southern madagascar? |
| 11:54.32 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: you in northern greenland? |
| 11:54.38 | Fisker | nope jnwhiteh |
| 11:54.42 | jnwhiteh | hrm k |
| 11:54.46 | Fisker | Adys you in iran? |
| 11:54.51 | Adys | Yes! |
| 11:55.04 | Adys | Fisker: you still in that shithole of a place they call denmark? |
| 11:55.11 | Fisker | nope |
| 11:55.18 | Fisker | i'm in the beautiful nation of denmark |
| 11:55.23 | Adys | staying away from Kalroth i bet |
| 11:55.39 | Adys | what are you, american? When did you get so patriotic |
| 11:56.31 | jnwhiteh | disgusting |
| 11:56.33 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 11:57.12 | Fisker | hello |
| 11:57.16 | Kalroth | :o |
| 11:57.21 | Kalroth | why woudl |
| 11:57.25 | Kalroth | pls fiskr |
| 12:04.45 | haste | Xuerian: Slightly delayed pong |
| 12:06.26 | Fisker | sup haste |
| 12:06.38 | haste | not much, had to catch up on some sleep |
| 12:06.47 | Fisker | i once used spotify |
| 12:06.49 | Fisker | insane right? |
| 12:07.00 | haste | pretty much |
| 12:41.59 | starlon | I've seen insanerer |
| 12:43.13 | starlon | Blizzard needs to cough up the rep tabards. |
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| 12:50.17 | Fisker | lol |
| 12:50.21 | Fisker | full retard mode on RPS today |
| 12:50.29 | Fisker | http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/11/10/blizzard-sued-over-security-concerns-authenticators/ |
| 12:50.37 | Fisker | “one region” |
| 12:50.37 | Fisker | Or as they’re sometimes known the continent of North America. |
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| 13:46.48 | Stanzilla | yay Adys |
| 13:52.20 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 13:52.24 | Fisker | 3 days |
| 13:52.25 | Fisker | you ready? |
| 13:52.58 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 13:57.34 | Adys | Stanzilla: ? |
| 13:57.45 | Stanzilla | Adys: we are friends now |
| 14:10.05 | starlon | :/ |
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| 14:21.39 | Fisker | aww man |
| 14:21.46 | Fisker | i wanted to be friends with Adys |
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| 14:47.18 | neutronimity | What is it called, if after a loading screen (logging in, transit portal), spell animations (thunder clap flash, consecration, ect) are delayed some minutes until all animations are played in quick sequence at once? I have been trying to search with Google for 'spell animation delayed |
| 14:47.35 | neutronimity | ', and found perhaps a few threads with no replies. |
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| 14:58.12 | Shirik | neutronimity: lag? |
| 14:58.35 | neutronimity | I'm very sure it is not lag. The enemy loses health. :D |
| 14:59.16 | neutronimity | I would think it is my laptop's hamsters trying to get through a bottleneck all at once. |
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| 15:07.19 | neutronimity | To be more specific, executing an ability has my character do the relevant moving animation, but the particle animation is delayed until much later. Another example is going into Flight Form as druid, and swimming through the air as a worgen. Only after a few minutes, puffs and smoke appear, and I become a bird. |
| 15:07.54 | neutronimity | Also, cat diving over Stormwind is hilarious. |
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| 15:28.15 | Shirik | that sounds a lot like lag to me :) |
| 15:28.23 | Shirik | There's certain things the client controls and there's things the server controls |
| 15:29.59 | nevcairiel | what i experienced is that the client actually controls how the mobs lose their health |
| 15:30.15 | nevcairiel | however, once it dies, it has to wait for the server to catch up before it really drops to the ground |
| 15:30.41 | neutronimity | Aah - uhm what about flying? |
| 15:30.59 | nevcairiel | typical cast lag |
| 15:31.01 | Shirik | to my knowledge the client also controls movement, though the server does a few double-checks |
| 15:32.32 | neutronimity | Really weird - could that be related to also disconnecting/reconnecting to battle.net towards the end of the loading screen? |
| 15:33.41 | neutronimity | Well, if it is that kind of lag, it really feels different than the normal lag when it feels sluggish like .. waiting for ability. |
| 15:33.54 | neutronimity | I never have to wait for abilities in this case. |
| 15:34.25 | starlon | nudges Blizzard to hurry up with this server "restart." |
| 15:39.39 | karl_w_w | nudges starlon for reasons unknown. |
| 15:40.11 | Shirik | ~nudge karl_w_w |
| 15:40.11 | purl | ACTION elbows karl_w_w until he gets karl_w_w's attention |
| 15:40.33 | karl_w_w | ~botsnack |
| 15:40.33 | purl | thanks, karl_w_w |
| 15:40.46 | karl_w_w | ~lart Shirik |
| 15:40.46 | purl | burns Shirik to a crisp with a laser |
| 15:40.48 | karl_w_w | sick im |
| 15:41.12 | Shirik | sic* |
| 15:41.17 | karl_w_w | no |
| 15:41.25 | karl_w_w | I wanted the bot to vomit on you. |
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| 15:42.51 | neutronimity | Interact with Mouseover is awesome on Mousewheel Up/Down. |
| 15:43.25 | karl_w_w | why'zat? |
| 15:44.23 | neutronimity | Quick targeting on roll, quick npc interaction on roll, quick looting on roll, .. |
| 15:45.28 | neutronimity | And if you got your target already and want to interact with it, just roll anywhere not on a npc/object thing |
| 15:45.59 | neutronimity | I would never play without it any more. |
| 15:52.38 | Arrowmaster | Adys: what DE are you using right now? still developing razor? |
| 15:52.49 | Adys | Arrowmaster: yes |
| 15:52.50 | Adys | why? |
| 15:52.58 | Arrowmaster | just wondering |
| 15:53.09 | Adys | im going to fosdem 2013 representing razor |
| 15:53.12 | Fisker | hey Adys |
| 15:53.13 | Adys | i have to write a talk |
| 15:53.13 | Adys | :( |
| 15:53.18 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 15:53.57 | Fisker | why represent razor? |
| 15:54.09 | Fisker | and don't you mean razer? |
| 15:54.11 | Arrowmaster | after seeing that linus switched to kde i thought about giving it a shot since im not really happy with anything ive tried |
| 15:54.13 | Adys | because everyone else on the team is czech or russian and barely speak english |
| 15:54.32 | Adys | Arrowmaster: if i were you i'd give kde a shot for their 5.0 release |
| 15:54.38 | Adys | unfortunately thats not for a while still |
| 15:54.47 | Adys | razor is at a really good place right now especially if you pick it up from git |
| 15:54.49 | neutronimity | There's a skeleton on a raft, with a round flat table and some probably expired food and two chittering birds, and one teddy bear in the middle of a lake in Jade Forest. |
| 15:55.28 | Fisker | what is razor Adys ? |
| 15:55.39 | Adys | Fisker: razor-qt.org |
| 15:55.47 | Fisker | ah ok |
| 15:55.49 | Adys | its a lightweight qt-based DE |
| 15:56.08 | Arrowmaster | Adys: well i was going to try awesome but ir requires a lot of configuring it get it usable so i was using lxde in the mean time, and pcmanfm is pissing me off |
| 15:56.26 | Arrowmaster | it keeps crashing or something |
| 15:56.41 | Adys | Arrowmaster: you should def give razor a shot |
| 15:56.58 | Adys | id say grab razor+kwin and oxygen theme |
| 15:57.47 | Arrowmaster | what do you use for a filemanager |
| 15:57.57 | Adys | i dont use one |
| 15:58.09 | Adys | i used to use andromeda |
| 15:58.37 | Adys | but i ended up on the command line all the time so meh |
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| 16:25.33 | Arrowmaster | and my desktop died again..... |
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| 16:41.11 | Arrowmaster | http://joeyh.name/blog/entry/git_push_over_XMPP/ |
| 16:41.24 | Arrowmaster | git, going places no other vcs ever thought possible |
| 16:44.24 | Shirik | and once again, we ask the question of "why not" rather than "why" |
| 16:48.18 | karl_w_w | that's the sort of thinking that leads to norton antivirus |
| 16:49.33 | karl_w_w | generally it's not hard to find a tool to do something, the tricky part is often finding a tool that doesn't do a million other things as well |
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| 17:00.51 | Stanzilla | why does halo4 have black bars to the left and right on spit screen mode? :< |
| 17:01.05 | karl_w_w | because halo4lol |
| 17:01.49 | karl_w_w | although, i wonder if this is the best ever 4th installment of a game franchise |
| 17:02.02 | Arrowmaster | Stanzilla: how is the splitscreen? top/bottom or right/left? |
| 17:02.19 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: top/bottom. it seems to force a 4:3 resolution there |
| 17:02.23 | Stanzilla | no idea why |
| 17:02.54 | Fisker | punch time in the face Stanzilla |
| 17:02.55 | Fisker | pls |
| 17:03.00 | Arrowmaster | its probably to avoid making the viewing angle too wide yet a narrow height |
| 17:03.27 | Arrowmaster | with the bars they can use the same FoV but get more height |
| 17:03.45 | Stanzilla | looks retarded though :( |
| 17:04.45 | karl_w_w | that's mean to retards |
| 17:05.10 | Stanzilla | don't you think it's an honor to them? looking like halo4 coop? |
| 17:05.12 | karl_w_w | how would you like it if I made fun of you and called it impotent? |
| 17:07.50 | Fisker | punches Stanzilla in the face |
| 17:07.59 | Stanzilla | what is it Fisker |
| 17:08.07 | Fisker | punch time in the face |
| 17:09.39 | mikma | or in the cock |
| 17:09.59 | Fisker | why mikma ? |
| 17:10.04 | karl_w_w | mikma looking for an excuse again |
| 17:10.29 | mikma | i don't need excuse for cockpunch |
| 17:11.05 | karl_w_w | it's not an excuse for cockpunch, cockpunch is the excuse |
| 17:11.53 | mikma | excuse me while punch you in the cock <guitar rif> |
| 17:12.30 | karl_w_w | hey Fisker do you want 3 fun size cherry ripes? i hate the things |
| 17:12.45 | kd3 | ...was that an earthquake? |
| 17:13.48 | karl_w_w | no, that was just me rocking your world |
| 17:14.22 | mikma | oe a cock punch |
| 17:14.25 | mikma | or* |
| 17:15.19 | Adys | Toast compresses the sound files given on its command line. Each file is replaced by a file with the extension .gsm . If no files are specified, the compression is applied to the standard input, and its result is written |
| 17:15.19 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.33 | Adys | Why can't I type some random shit in my command line anymore and actually get "command not found" |
| 17:15.53 | nevcairiel | because you're using some crappy mainstream distro? |
| 17:16.05 | Adys | yes, arch is extremely mainstream |
| 17:16.20 | nevcairiel | crappy either way, apparently |
| 17:16.30 | Adys | error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) |
| 17:16.32 | Adys | :: ffmpeg: requires gsm |
| 17:16.44 | Adys | if ffmpeg requires gsm im guessing you'd have toast as well |
| 17:20.44 | kd3 | closest quake would be this one; http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/usc000dqhx |
| 17:20.45 | kd3 | huh |
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| 17:28.39 | karl_w_w | anyone have an idea when 5.1 is supposed to come out? have they given any indication? |
| 17:28.46 | karl_w_w | like are we talking a month? |
| 17:29.22 | Semlar | soonish |
| 17:30.29 | Semlar | probably sometime in december |
| 17:31.19 | Semlar | earliest would be the last tuesday in november |
| 17:34.09 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 17:34.15 | Fisker | this is 100% guaranteed |
| 17:34.24 | Fisker | since they need level 90 winter's veil shit in it |
| 17:35.04 | Vlad| | why do hardcore programmer nerds have websites that look like 404 pages? :P |
| 17:35.15 | Semlar | why not |
| 17:35.23 | TC-Away | i think you answered your own question |
| 17:35.28 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 17:35.43 | Vlad| | you got potential for much greater stuff :P |
| 17:35.48 | Vlad| | that's "why not" |
| 17:36.06 | nevcairiel | why waste all that potential on pointless personal websites? |
| 17:36.13 | Vlad| | why not? |
| 17:36.14 | Vlad| | :P |
| 17:36.16 | nevcairiel | also, hardcore programmers suck at design |
| 17:36.20 | Semlar | yeah |
| 17:36.22 | nevcairiel | they are not designers, afterall |
| 17:36.32 | Vlad| | I feel like in between two steps :< |
| 17:36.39 | Semlar | websites require design, art, not just a backend |
| 17:36.44 | Vlad| | I suck at design, I suck at programming, but I like to do both. |
| 17:37.05 | Vlad| | btw came home now after 6 hours of seminar :D |
| 17:37.06 | nevcairiel | sounds like the average consultant =P |
| 17:37.07 | Semlar | to be really good at both takes some doing |
| 17:37.19 | nevcairiel | suck at everything, but sell yourself to do it anyway! |
| 17:37.20 | Fisker | Q: The graveyard nearest the Cloud Serpent dailies is at the top of a mountain in the middle of the ocean, with no way to regain your body at the daily area, forcing a spirit res. As in previous meetings we don’t want flying, but this particular graveyard just seems misplaced. |
| 17:37.21 | Fisker | man |
| 17:37.27 | Fisker | i hope Blizzard doesn't cave into the QQ |
| 17:37.34 | Fisker | it's more than possible to regain your body from there |
| 17:37.37 | Fisker | stop whining |
| 17:37.39 | Fisker | bitches |
| 17:37.47 | nevcairiel | I have always wondered why they don't let the ghosts fly when you have the flying skill |
| 17:37.50 | Vlad| | why can we die on places not accessible without flying mount? |
| 17:37.57 | Vlad| | smells like bad design |
| 17:38.03 | nevcairiel | you can die anywhere |
| 17:38.05 | Vlad| | thus ghosts should fly |
| 17:38.08 | Fisker | that's not the case here Vlad| |
| 17:38.08 | nevcairiel | just fall to death |
| 17:38.18 | Vlad| | if you flew up and died, you need to fly up as a ghost :P |
| 17:38.21 | Vlad| | yeah true Fisker |
| 17:38.38 | Vlad| | I've spawned there too, only issue is isn't there a gap? so you can't get to the corpse from that pillar? |
| 17:38.56 | Vlad| | like a crevice of sorts |
| 17:39.00 | nevcairiel | yeah the problem is that you die in some normal area where you can go without flying |
| 17:39.03 | Fisker | yeah so? |
| 17:39.07 | nevcairiel | but the graveyard is in some rather stupid spot |
| 17:39.20 | Vlad| | yeah |
| 17:39.26 | nevcairiel | i died once in that "kill master xxx" quest because i didnt pay attention |
| 17:39.29 | nevcairiel | was a pita |
| 17:39.45 | Fisker | a week ago or so |
| 17:39.50 | Vlad| | it's like dying outside the vale but nearby the door (before you open it), and spawn in the GY inside the vale - how to get out? :P |
| 17:39.53 | Fisker | i saw someone trying to kill major nanners |
| 17:39.57 | Fisker | he didn't want to invite or anything |
| 17:40.02 | Vlad| | just replace the door with a huge fall and there you go |
| 17:40.05 | Fisker | but major nanners killed him |
| 17:40.09 | Fisker | so he had to spirit res |
| 17:40.12 | Fisker | then i tagged him |
| 17:40.13 | Vlad| | :D |
| 17:40.18 | Fisker | ran up to him and /rofl'd at the guy |
| 17:40.26 | Fisker | then when i killed major nanners i even got the rare item from it |
| 17:40.29 | Fisker | then i linked to him |
| 17:40.37 | Fisker | then i was suddenly on ignore |
| 17:40.39 | Fisker | i mean how come? |
| 17:40.39 | Vlad| | btw people complain that one spot is too crowded and hard to avoid him, but it's really not :P I've done him by using max 4 yards of space ^^ |
| 17:40.50 | Vlad| | (like you pull other mobs and they kill you) |
| 17:40.59 | Fisker | I just pull him out |
| 17:41.08 | Vlad| | yeah, then you got enough space to avoid his stuff :P |
| 17:41.21 | karl_w_w | i was killed on a mountain side and had to spirit res once |
| 17:41.39 | Vlad| | I got a nemesis, the guy whispers me when I login telling me "I remember" - I tagged a rare before he attacked it, I didn't even see the guy, but in any case he now hates me :P |
| 17:41.39 | karl_w_w | apparently bad design is ok sometimes |
| 17:42.08 | karl_w_w | u should follow him round making sure he never gets a rare again Vlad| |
| 17:42.09 | Semlar | that sounds contradictory |
| 17:42.12 | Vlad| | :D |
| 17:42.15 | nevcairiel | you should follow him around and pretend to harass him |
| 17:42.24 | nevcairiel | actual harassment is bad! |
| 17:42.30 | karl_w_w | don't lie |
| 17:42.53 | nevcairiel | he would probably freak out when you follow him around without doing anything |
| 17:43.01 | Vlad| | this is how I hunt rares with my druid, I fly above in hawk form, I target the rare and I go in cat form falling down, then spam the cat jump button :P |
| 17:43.06 | Vlad| | I hunt rares hawk style |
| 17:43.41 | karl_w_w | yeah the well known hawk move of turning into a cat and leaping onto your prey |
| 17:43.45 | Vlad| | to be fair I didn't see the guy in my situation :P |
| 17:43.58 | Vlad| | so no need to be grumpy at me lol ^^ |
| 17:44.10 | Vlad| | he got angry I didn't invite him, but why invite when I need to /roll for an item we both want? :D |
| 17:44.26 | Vlad| | rares in wow are a selfish thing in the game |
| 17:44.33 | Vlad| | no point getting angry at others for being there before you |
| 17:44.45 | Vlad| | wait and see if they fail so you can tag or move on ;) |
| 17:45.15 | Vlad| | like nevcairiel said, unless you follow a guy tagging all his mobs, you are in the green and it's not personal :P |
| 17:45.34 | nevcairiel | I always feel kinda funny watching a guy and hoping he dies =P |
| 17:45.38 | Vlad| | :D |
| 17:45.51 | Fisker | i hate people who don't invite on rares |
| 17:45.57 | Vlad| | why Fisker? :P |
| 17:46.10 | Fisker | what if someone needed it for achievement? |
| 17:46.12 | nevcairiel | invite and risk the other guy getting the loot? |
| 17:46.13 | Vlad| | they made it so rares drop unique rare items |
| 17:46.18 | Fisker | master loot nevcairiel |
| 17:46.19 | Fisker | pls |
| 17:46.22 | Vlad| | and usually most of us are after them for those items ^^ |
| 17:46.24 | Vlad| | yeah |
| 17:46.27 | Vlad| | if it's just the ach |
| 17:46.30 | Vlad| | I invite myself and put on ML |
| 17:46.42 | Vlad| | but the guy in my case wanted the rare item :D |
| 17:46.47 | Vlad| | I ML myself if someone wants the ach ;) |
| 17:46.47 | Semlar | you invite yourself? |
| 17:47.01 | Vlad| | :3 |
| 17:47.02 | Vlad| | always |
| 17:47.02 | Semlar | how many of you are there |
| 17:47.08 | Vlad| | there are two me |
| 17:47.12 | Semlar | oh no |
| 17:47.17 | Vlad| | right now it's chatty vlady |
| 17:47.19 | nevcairiel | one was alreadytoo much |
| 17:47.25 | Vlad| | later it's probably sucks at lua vlad |
| 17:47.36 | Fisker | though i really hate bastards |
| 17:47.43 | Fisker | i was doing sahn tidehunter |
| 17:47.52 | Fisker | saw 2 horde waiting behind me |
| 17:48.02 | Fisker | so i stunned the mob and began writing "invite me if you want tag" |
| 17:48.16 | Fisker | little did i know that one of those rain dance thingies had gotten through |
| 17:48.17 | Fisker | so bam |
| 17:48.21 | Fisker | died |
| 17:48.26 | Fisker | on like 10% |
| 17:48.37 | Fisker | and they started killing him |
| 17:48.39 | Fisker | asked for invite |
| 17:48.41 | Fisker | but nope.avi |
| 17:48.53 | Vlad| | Semlar: 31382 quest has wrong poi in Halfhill/Tillers :P should be at Niuzao Temple. |
| 17:49.00 | Fisker | so those 2 are never getting an invite |
| 17:49.07 | Vlad| | yeah :( |
| 17:49.14 | Vlad| | I invited a guy once and died from similar cause |
| 17:49.18 | Vlad| | he left my group and tagged solo :P |
| 17:49.32 | Vlad| | so from then on I got a macro :P |
| 17:49.35 | nevcairiel | i doubt many people actually want them for achievements |
| 17:49.36 | Vlad| | to put on ML and invite my target ;P |
| 17:49.42 | Vlad| | yeah but some few are just jerks |
| 17:49.46 | karl_w_w | fyi Fisker the last tuesday before winter's veil is 11th dec |
| 17:49.55 | Fisker | not now nevcairiel |
| 17:50.03 | Fisker | but this was a while ago |
| 17:50.26 | Vlad| | hmm, why can't opie show a ring based on conditions? |
| 17:50.45 | karl_w_w | isnt there a rule against explicit addons? |
| 17:50.50 | Vlad| | hmm |
| 17:51.00 | Vlad| | even when conditions are predermined before combat? |
| 17:51.02 | nevcairiel | probably because rings are secure buttons and cant use arbitrary conditions on those |
| 17:51.19 | Vlad| | what if you make 2 rings and it shows the one depending on combat conditional? |
| 17:51.29 | Vlad| | the buttons don't change just a [combat]ring1;ring2 |
| 17:52.00 | Vlad| | because you can set attributes out of combat and it will show/hide frames when the conditions are met, can't the same happen with binds? |
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| 17:52.28 | Vlad| | I target a friend and hit a button, it shows heal spells, I target a enemy and I see hostile spells :) |
| 17:52.55 | nevcairiel | its a rather limited set of things you can do, and a slippery slope once you start, or foxlit just doesnt care :P |
| 17:53.58 | Vlad| | :D |
| 17:54.04 | Vlad| | to me it sounds possible |
| 17:54.08 | Vlad| | but unsure how keybinds work |
| 17:54.08 | Semlar | it is posible |
| 17:54.21 | Vlad| | because the ring content is predefined |
| 17:54.22 | Vlad| | like macros |
| 17:54.32 | Vlad| | i.e. it only varies to show the right one based on macro conditionals |
| 17:54.45 | Vlad| | so I can have a ring I can use for several things, one key :D |
| 17:54.49 | Vlad| | that would be awesome |
| 17:54.59 | Semlar | it wouldn't need to change buttons |
| 17:55.16 | Semlar | you can make a button change its contents based on whether you're targeting a friendly player or not |
| 17:55.45 | Semlar | all of my priest's heals were also damage spells based on what i was targeting |
| 17:56.13 | Vlad| | yeah ofc |
| 17:56.34 | Vlad| | was just thinking from a coding POV it would be easier to let you decide the contents of two separate rings and what conditions what ring is shown :) |
| 17:56.47 | Vlad| | and if rings is empty or no valid condition is met it doesn't show up or something |
| 17:57.05 | Semlar | granted opie doesn't actually use action buttons so i don't know if it could support that |
| 17:58.32 | Semlar | i don't think it would be easier from a coding standpoint because i'm not sure it's even possible to swap one button for another based on conditions |
| 17:58.42 | Vlad| | hmm |
| 17:58.51 | Vlad| | foxlit has to speak up on the mater :P |
| 17:59.02 | Vlad| | maybe he gotta recode a lot of stuff so he cba ^^ if it's possible |
| 18:00.15 | Semlar | can you assign macros to the opie buttons? |
| 18:05.23 | foxlit | "Vlad|: hmm, why can't opie show a ring based on conditions?" << it's not a technical limitation. Philosophically, OPie rings are intended to be transient -- you decide you want to use some ability, move the mouse, hold/release the binding, and your interaction with OPie is done. |
| 18:07.00 | foxlit | Semlar: yes. |
| 18:07.44 | Semlar | well if you can drop macros onto it there's no reason you couldn't just set up a ring with macros based on whether your target is hostile or not |
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| 18:08.55 | foxlit | I wonder if I picked the wrong line to quote. |
| 18:09.50 | foxlit | My point was mainly that you wouldn't want to have opie rings appearing on your screen without user interaction, but perhaps Vlad| wanted something else. |
| 18:10.35 | Semlar | i think he just wants the rings to change what buttons they have based on whether he's in combat or not or something along those lines |
| 18:12.57 | foxlit | I don't do slice-level conditionals at the moment, though things are certainly heading that way. |
| 18:14.31 | Vlad| | foxlit: I wanted one button to show two different rings based on [combat] for example :P |
| 18:14.41 | foxlit | That's entirely possible in the current version |
| 18:15.21 | Vlad| | hmm |
| 18:15.36 | foxlit | Use conditional bindings; you can bind a ring to something like [combat] ALT-O |
| 18:15.53 | Vlad| | for example |
| 18:16.00 | Vlad| | if I target something target marker ring shows |
| 18:16.05 | Vlad| | otherwise world marker (i.e. no target) |
| 18:16.08 | Vlad| | just an example |
| 18:16.14 | Vlad| | how can I achieve that with one button? |
| 18:16.24 | Vlad| | looking around the ring bindings atm :3 |
| 18:17.15 | foxlit | alt-left click on the binding button for Target Markers |
| 18:17.31 | foxlit | type in [exists] ALT-R, press Enter. Done. |
| 18:17.54 | foxlit | (and rebind world markers to ALT-R in the usual way) |
| 18:18.02 | Vlad| | hmm |
| 18:18.35 | Vlad| | ah I see |
| 18:18.42 | Vlad| | alt-click thing was hidden :D |
| 18:19.05 | foxlit | hm? |
| 18:19.23 | Vlad| | I didn't know about alt-clicking on the bind buttons |
| 18:19.28 | Vlad| | that it would show this alternative menu :P |
| 18:19.41 | foxlit | The text at the top of the panel should mention that? |
| 18:20.42 | Vlad| | right, just got too focused on the goal at hand I didn't notice the means :p |
| 18:20.57 | Vlad| | well, constructive critisism; could be a bit easier with the conditional binding interface ;D |
| 18:20.59 | Vlad| | otherwise neato, thanks |
| 18:21.12 | karl_w_w | any1 notice that if you sleep on your back you wake up with sore ankles, or is that just me? |
| 18:21.23 | Vlad| | haven't had that :o |
| 18:21.34 | Thunder_Child | helps if you are not tied down karl_w_w |
| 18:22.16 | karl_w_w | i wouldnt know about that :P |
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| 18:24.41 | Vlad| | kinky are we, karl? |
| 18:26.39 | foxlit | Vlad|: I'm sure it could be improved, but I have no particular ideas as to what would work better |
| 18:27.14 | Vlad| | I can't reply on the run, would need to think up alternatives in that case |
| 18:30.19 | Vlad| | 5.1 is not coming soon enough http://i.imgur.com/ViDd8.jpg |
| 18:30.59 | Ressy | lol |
| 18:31.22 | Vlad| | not to mention 90 > 3 gold coins only per week? |
| 18:31.45 | Vlad| | got enough for 17 more weeks |
| 18:32.28 | Shirik | is making chocolate chip marshmallow pancakes! |
| 18:32.37 | Vlad| | got 878 mark of the world tree |
| 18:32.43 | Vlad| | there is a currency I will ever need again |
| 18:35.34 | Vlad| | http://www.wowhead.com/quest=30152#comments:id=1731984 :D |
| 18:38.05 | Adys | holy shit |
| 18:38.08 | Adys | fuck my life real hard |
| 18:38.10 | Adys | http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/12yl56/eu_login_down/ |
| 18:38.16 | Vlad| | lol |
| 18:38.24 | Adys | I logged on diablo 3 once in 4 months |
| 18:38.45 | Adys | to test a wine bug that keeps the client stuck at Retrieving Hero List |
| 18:39.13 | Vlad| | we used to joke back in vanilla, when our realm restarted we said someone probably had to borrow the power outlet for the coffee machine :P |
| 18:39.16 | Adys | I couldn't get it to work, bumped my head for ages |
| 18:39.29 | Vlad| | maybe same is happening to diablo now |
| 18:39.33 | Adys | and now six hours later i find this out |
| 18:41.47 | Vlad| | can eu and us friends play diablo together now or still no? |
| 18:41.57 | Vlad| | I played a little with friends some weeks ago, otherwise not |
| 18:42.08 | nevcairiel | you can switch regions at will |
| 18:42.17 | nevcairiel | characters are seperate in the regions though |
| 18:43.01 | Vlad| | yeah |
| 18:43.07 | Vlad| | same as before then |
| 18:43.21 | nevcairiel | you can play together just fine |
| 18:43.31 | Vlad| | why doesn't Spade show the Master Plow btw? :D |
| 18:43.35 | neutronimity | I would wish this for WoW |
| 18:43.51 | Vlad| | yeah ofc |
| 18:44.04 | Vlad| | I wouldn't mind helping you for example :P |
| 18:44.16 | Vlad| | not that Stanzilla has ever asked me to tank tough |
| 18:44.17 | Vlad| | :P |
| 18:44.20 | neutronimity | Ooh, uhm, thanks. :) I'm just a mere paladin/warrior tank. |
| 18:44.20 | kd3 | spade handles the master plow |
| 18:44.28 | kd3 | as long as it's in your inventory |
| 18:44.38 | Vlad| | so you updated it |
| 18:44.44 | Vlad| | hehe, ok |
| 18:44.52 | Vlad| | I assumed the addon would update itself :P |
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| 18:48.05 | neutronimity | hooray, after quitting&restarting explorer.exe, my start menu works again |
| 18:49.37 | Vlad| | who else plays swtor? |
| 18:49.47 | Vlad| | curious if you too have warzone performance issues :P |
| 18:50.07 | nevcairiel | i played it for a month after release, then quit with about everyone else, leaving the game deserted =P |
| 18:52.46 | Vlad| | I liked it, fun story. |
| 18:52.58 | Vlad| | my gripe was just performance, I run other games smooth but not swtor in pvp :/ |
| 18:53.00 | nevcairiel | its a single player game with mmo rubber-stamped on it |
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| 18:53.07 | Vlad| | yeah |
| 18:53.17 | nevcairiel | leveling was fun, but after that was done, i quit =P |
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| 18:57.32 | nevcairiel | the fact that it went free to play within its first year speaks for itself really |
| 18:58.57 | Adys | yea |
| 18:59.31 | Vlad| | they never managed to release more content to keep people interested |
| 19:00.04 | Vlad| | only adding raids doesn't please the non-dungeon guy if you know what I mean :P |
| 19:00.25 | Vlad| | need activites for a broader group of people |
| 19:00.51 | Vlad| | a friend wanted to play so I fired it up recently :3 |
| 19:01.03 | Adys | LOTR: should I read the books or watch the movies first? |
| 19:01.12 | Vlad| | ehm |
| 19:01.20 | Vlad| | watch the original animated movie |
| 19:01.20 | Vlad| | :D |
| 19:01.46 | nevcairiel | i read the books first, because then the movie didnt exist. :p |
| 19:02.34 | Vlad| | just keep in mind movies will always disappoint unless you imagines exactly how the screenwriter imagined the book themselves :P |
| 19:02.38 | Stanzilla | Adys: what you never watched lotr? |
| 19:02.47 | Vlad| | i.e. don't be surprised if the movie didn't meet with your expectations |
| 19:02.57 | Adys | yes because every time i wanted to watch it i thought i should read the books first |
| 19:03.04 | Adys | and then every time i was faced with the book i was like |
| 19:03.08 | Adys | "maybe i should watch it first..." |
| 19:03.18 | nevcairiel | the movies are pretty good, even in comparison to the books |
| 19:03.30 | Stanzilla | I'd watch the movies first |
| 19:03.37 | Vlad| | do you hate america Adys? |
| 19:03.42 | Adys | course |
| 19:03.45 | Adys | who doesn't? |
| 19:03.47 | Vlad| | if not why haven't you seen lord of the rings already? |
| 19:03.52 | Stanzilla | because you will have a lot of "dang that was not in the movie" moments when reading the book then :D |
| 19:03.52 | Vlad| | :P |
| 19:04.05 | Adys | do i have to like america to enjoy lotr |
| 19:04.09 | Adys | because thats going to be a huge turn off |
| 19:04.11 | nevcairiel | watching the movie first gives you images and voices for the characters, which may help the transition from movie to book, other way around could be weird if you imagined something else entirely |
| 19:04.28 | Adys | Stanzilla, nevcairiel: quite true |
| 19:04.28 | Stanzilla | that is a very good reason nevcairiel |
| 19:04.42 | Adys | i think you're right |
| 19:04.45 | Adys | ill watch it first |
| 19:04.52 | nevcairiel | its been years between me reading the books and then watching the movies |
| 19:04.57 | nevcairiel | so the effect wasnt there anymore |
| 19:05.16 | Vlad| | nevcairiel: why are so many recommending the books first when I ask about "book or movie"? :D |
| 19:05.17 | nevcairiel | anyhow, grab the extended version of course |
| 19:05.35 | Adys | theres an extended version? |
| 19:05.55 | nevcairiel | Vlad|: really depends on the movie, lotr has really good movies, pretty accurate to the books too (except some skipped side-stories) |
| 19:05.55 | Vlad| | yes Adys, a sex scene previously unseen |
| 19:06.22 | Vlad| | :3 |
| 19:06.43 | nevcairiel | the total length of all three movies in theater cut is 558 minutes, extended its 683 minutes, so over 2 hours of extra footage |
| 19:07.19 | Vlad| | won't be noticable tough, if you didn't see the regular one |
| 19:07.37 | Vlad| | saw them in the cinema first, then later extended one, didn't spot the differences in one viewing |
| 19:07.38 | nevcairiel | helps with some character development, and of course more accurace to the book |
| 19:08.05 | Vlad| | foxlit: make oring cast fish when I click a fishing pool |
| 19:08.05 | Vlad| | :P |
| 19:08.21 | Adys | Vlad|: i read HP 1-5 before i watched it. i then watched hp 6-8 before i read 6&7 |
| 19:08.37 | Vlad| | oh |
| 19:08.38 | Vlad| | how was it? |
| 19:08.54 | Adys | good question |
| 19:09.04 | Adys | i strongly disliked the first couple of movies |
| 19:09.05 | nevcairiel | maybe you should read the hobbit first though |
| 19:09.36 | Adys | yet i much preferred the first few books |
| 19:09.52 | Adys | then i guess i got used to the movies and liked the last few ones |
| 19:09.53 | Adys | dunno |
| 19:10.08 | Vlad| | maybe nevcairiel's tips is good in this case :P |
| 19:10.58 | nevcairiel | somehow i feel like watching lotr as well again some of these days |
| 19:12.13 | Vlad| | I hate it when I get the "oh I should rewatch X" then I start to remember the whole movie :( |
| 19:12.20 | Vlad| | and then the fun is ruined |
| 19:12.29 | nevcairiel | yeah that pretty much happened right now |
| 19:12.32 | nevcairiel | just seen it too often |
| 19:13.45 | Adys | half of the fun in rewatching is remembering as the movie runs :P |
| 19:14.19 | nevcairiel | i usually start doing other stuff when i watch a movie that i already know too well |
| 19:14.29 | nevcairiel | because i get half-bored |
| 19:15.01 | Vlad| | yeah |
| 19:15.16 | Vlad| | too boring if I know too much |
| 19:16.28 | nevcairiel | rewatching the first or second time is always great because you pick up on details you missed before |
| 19:16.49 | nevcairiel | especially on tv series that you rewatch back to back after having seen it on a weekly basis =p |
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