| 00:00.04 | Kalroth | dont trust fisker |
| 00:00.06 | Mr_Rabies | rabies.exe has encountered an error |
| 00:01.00 | Fisker | ugh |
| 00:01.01 | pompy | Arrowmaster: http://www.slashgear.com/xbox-smartglass-makes-android-app-debut-on-windows-8-day-26254228/ if you don't already know. |
| 00:01.18 | Fisker | why is the _CD_ iso just a few MB too big? |
| 00:02.16 | Adys | Fisker: dont grab ubuntu for this kind of test, seriously |
| 00:02.20 | Dagmar | If the boot sector on the thumbdrive isn't going to work with UEFI then whether or not it's on the thumb drive doesn't matter |
| 00:02.21 | Adys | either debian or arch |
| 00:03.06 | Dagmar | ...but there's plenty of docs on getting Linux booting on UEFI boards |
| 00:03.18 | Mr_Rabies | open the cd iso in 7zip and remove a random file |
| 00:03.30 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: That won't make it smaller. |
| 00:03.42 | Fisker | i'm just overburning instead |
| 00:03.46 | Fisker | hopefully it can take it |
| 00:03.49 | Dagmar | I was about to say that's the solution |
| 00:03.52 | Dagmar | Just turn on overburning |
| 00:03.58 | Dagmar | Unless the thing is like 720Mb it's not going to care |
| 00:03.59 | Mr_Rabies | overburning an os disc seems like a bad idea, but whatever |
| 00:04.02 | Fisker | i overburned once |
| 00:04.02 | Mr_Rabies | i guess you'll know |
| 00:04.05 | Fisker | in like 2001 |
| 00:04.23 | Dagmar | Just about any given "standard" CD is going to be able to take data to about 680Mb |
| 00:04.33 | Mr_Rabies | OVERBURN = VERY YES windows = NO |
| 00:04.35 | Dagmar | ...and most places sell 700's |
| 00:05.08 | Dagmar | Acutally, Im' not sure I even have any CDs that are "just" 650Mb anymore |
| 00:05.22 | Fisker | oh wait |
| 00:05.25 | Fisker | they're only 700MB? |
| 00:05.29 | Fisker | i thought it was 750MB |
| 00:05.42 | Fisker | i guess that's why it is complaining about I/O errors lololo |
| 00:05.57 | Dagmar | You got a 750Mb ISO? |
| 00:06.19 | Fisker | it's 760MB |
| 00:06.25 | Fisker | 763MB to be precise |
| 00:06.26 | Adys | er |
| 00:06.30 | Adys | .. of what? |
| 00:06.31 | Fisker | they're pretty much dicks |
| 00:06.37 | Fisker | ubuntu |
| 00:06.40 | Adys | uhm |
| 00:06.49 | Dagmar | Someone fucked up |
| 00:06.54 | Coote | no blank dvds laying around? |
| 00:07.07 | Arrowmaster | pompy: i dont see a link to the app |
| 00:07.13 | Adys | wow, it is 763mb |
| 00:07.34 | Adys | holy tards, they ask for donation paywall style for an iso that doesnt fit on a standard cd |
| 00:07.44 | Esamynn|work | lol |
| 00:08.00 | Arrowmaster | iso's can be larger than the on disc size |
| 00:08.00 | Adys | thats it, im pissed off |
| 00:08.07 | Adys | and im going to do something about it |
| 00:08.14 | Adys | hm, probably some pasta&egg |
| 00:08.17 | Fisker | and i'm dumb |
| 00:08.24 | Arrowmaster | ive seen 800mb isos that burn onto a normal cdr without overburn |
| 00:08.31 | Fisker | just forgot i got a usb stick capable of mounting isos |
| 00:08.31 | Dagmar | Yeah but it's a rarity |
| 00:08.42 | pompy | Arrowmaster: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/smartglass#get-smartglass |
| 00:08.45 | pompy | but says coming soon |
| 00:08.46 | pompy | hmm |
| 00:09.23 | Arrowmaster | pompy: the pics make me think of the terrible 'myxbox' app that doesnt follow any android design guidelines at all |
| 00:09.53 | Arrowmaster | including annoying shit like noises on every button press even when the phone is muted |
| 00:12.14 | pompy | http://www.slashgear.com/xbox-smartglass-sdk-now-available-to-developers-22235255/ |
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| 00:35.06 | Fisker | hey Adys |
| 00:35.11 | Fisker | i'm pretty awesome |
| 00:35.33 | Fisker | it kinda runs like shit |
| 00:35.46 | Fisker | but i guess thats to expect from an old 500GB usb 2.0 harddrive |
| 00:39.32 | Adys | yeah well |
| 00:39.39 | Adys | i just made one of my best pizzas ever |
| 00:39.44 | Adys | Im on fire this week |
| 00:41.56 | Fisker | woohoo |
| 00:42.05 | Fisker | that didn't last long |
| 00:42.28 | Fisker | installed nvidia drivers and the desktop stopped working :D |
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| 01:58.36 | Shirik | ok this is amazing http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/7713047/ |
| 02:11.30 | Dagmar | ACK broken verse |
| 02:11.46 | Dagmar | I grew up in the town where Charlie Daniels lived. |
| 02:11.52 | Dagmar | I can't _not_ remember that song note for note |
| 02:12.44 | Shirik | It should be required to know that song to live in the USA |
| 02:13.16 | Dagmar | Clearly those lyris were assembled by a furriner |
| 02:16.43 | Dagmar | OKay it's just freakin eerie how clearly I can rememeber that song |
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| 02:59.23 | kd3 | what bs. the hoftix said anyone nearby would get credit for killing the elites on sra'vess |
| 02:59.27 | kd3 | that's not true at all |
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| 03:03.53 | nebula169 | even if you tag them? |
| 03:05.38 | kd3 | if I got the tag I'll get credit |
| 03:05.51 | kd3 | but if I attack something after someone else got the tag, no such luck |
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| 03:30.02 | m^rk | any chance there a way to set a group header filter for the newer role system tank/dps/heal? |
| 03:30.26 | kd3 | look at how the default ui's raid frames do it? |
| 03:31.05 | m^rk | it cheats by doing stuff in combat that addons can't, best as i can remember |
| 03:33.01 | m^rk | group headers kinda seem deprecated any more, or heading that way, cause role filter would be something they would add if they give 2 craps for addon devs |
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| 03:46.15 | pompy | Cairenn: http://cat-bounce.com/ |
| 03:47.33 | Cairenn | lol |
| 03:56.53 | Thunder_Child | I love how my computer is currently telling me i have no internet connection |
| 03:57.12 | kd3 | maybe you don't and you're just imagining this |
| 03:57.36 | Thunder_Child | Well, it would save me a bundle of money every month |
| 03:58.30 | ccox | Cairenn: wait and click the floating eyeballs |
| 04:01.07 | Cairenn | I can't see what it says over on the side - "make i " can't see the rest |
| 04:01.42 | Cairenn | yeah, clicking the eyes makes it drop psychedelic cats |
| 04:02.06 | Shirik | rant time for a moment |
| 04:02.14 | Thunder_Child | Because regular disturbing bouncing cats are not enough |
| 04:02.24 | Shirik | Apparently half the east coast is going "OMG WE'RE GOING TO SEE 45MPH WINDS" |
| 04:02.33 | Shirik | is this supposed to be a big deal? |
| 04:02.36 | Cairenn | yep, stupid |
| 04:02.41 | kd3 | and (potentially) storm surge on a high tide |
| 04:02.46 | Shirik | Well ok that affects the coast |
| 04:02.48 | kd3 | and 5-10" of rain |
| 04:02.50 | Shirik | but I'm talking about inland people |
| 04:02.53 | pompy | yeah i live 10 minutes from the atlantic ocean, this should be fun |
| 04:03.04 | pompy | the island though migh tjust get owned. |
| 04:03.06 | Shirik | like seriously on an average day I have about 30MPH winds |
| 04:03.08 | pompy | not might, WILL |
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| 04:04.10 | Shirik | Wikipedia does not have an average windspeed :( |
| 04:04.47 | kd3 | well, go add one |
| 04:05.47 | pompy | weather.com says sandy has 75mph winds atm |
| 04:05.56 | pompy | and i didnt know cat 1 is deadly |
| 04:05.58 | pompy | guess so |
| 04:06.15 | kd3 | how often does new england get hurricanes... in october? |
| 04:06.45 | pompy | well when was Irene? it took a hit from her. |
| 04:06.50 | Shirik | the fun part is World Championships starts this coming Thursday |
| 04:06.57 | Shirik | and we have a bunch of people flying into Newark Wednesday |
| 04:07.00 | Shirik | glhf |
| 04:07.06 | pompy | http://www.weather.com/weather/videos/news-41/top-stories-169/the-jersey-shore-braces-for-sandy-31915 |
| 04:07.14 | pompy | :x |
| 04:07.32 | Shirik | I would be ok if the cast of jersey shore got wiped out |
| 04:08.16 | pompy | lol it isnt talking about that jersey shore :P |
| 04:08.17 | Thunder_Child | I would prefer all of the people that watch it to get wiped out. |
| 04:08.21 | pompy | but yes |
| 04:08.23 | pompy | i agree |
| 04:08.40 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: Is both not acceptable? |
| 04:10.03 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: they are, but if it was a one or the other i prefer mine. It has the added bonus of making the show go away as there would be no one watching it. |
| 04:11.50 | pompy | the town actually told them they cant have the house there anymore |
| 04:11.53 | pompy | something like that |
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| 04:15.51 | pompy | ohh BB http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/12/best-buy-to-price-match-amazon-and-other-online-retailers-this-holiday-season/ |
| 04:17.18 | Thunder_Child | Good idea |
| 04:17.24 | Thunder_Child | though i tend not to do that |
| 04:19.04 | pompy | and this was yesterday http://articles.marketwatch.com/2012-10-25/industries/34721947_1_online-sales-online-threat-online-prices |
| 04:20.40 | Thunder_Child | Their iPod example is bad on so many levels |
| 04:30.12 | Dagmar | It's not like vendors are allowed to discount the thing |
| 04:31.19 | bluworkcow | http://cheezburger.com/6707877120 |
| 04:31.20 | bluworkcow | LOL |
| 04:33.26 | Shirik | What is this I don't even |
| 04:34.41 | bluworkcow | hi2u Shirik |
| 04:34.45 | Shirik | hi |
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| 04:44.08 | Shirik | Cairenn: http://i.imgur.com/MGxcK.jpg |
| 04:44.18 | Shirik | everyone knows dogs > cats |
| 04:44.45 | Cairenn | awwwww |
| 04:47.12 | durcyn | those are some lovely nails you have, Shirik. |
| 04:49.19 | Shirik | I try |
| 04:57.22 | karl_w_w | cbreak, TC-Work: the email I got doesn't say anything about upgrade, it just says "Enjoy the Windows 8 preview? Now you can get the final version at a great price. Download Windows 8 Pro today for just $39.99 or get the DVD boxed copy for only $69.99." "*$39.99 and $69.99 are estimated retail prices for Windows 8 Pro. Offer is valid until January 31, 2013." |
| 05:01.09 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_w: be that as it may it only works if you launch the tool in windows xp, vista, or 7 |
| 05:01.31 | Thunder_Child | the disk is something else |
| 05:02.50 | nevcairiel | it even works if you launch the tool from the win8 preview |
| 05:04.54 | Thunder_Child | that too |
| 05:05.04 | karl_w_w | well, false advertising is illegal in this country, might report them :P |
| 05:05.27 | Thunder_Child | email might not be a legal advert |
| 05:05.36 | nevcairiel | its not a "upgrade", it just requires a windows to run the downloader from =p |
| 05:06.38 | Xuerian | I thought that ran a check on your licensing and whatnot, not just that it has to be run from a live install. |
| 05:06.59 | nevcairiel | you can run it on a freely available windows 8 preview, what does that tell you? :) |
| 05:07.25 | karl_w_w | you can run it from xp anyway, and you can buy xp for $10 |
| 05:08.17 | Xuerian | Install preview -> upgrade to release. Huh. If I didn't already have a legit copy, I'd jump on that. |
| 05:09.01 | nevcairiel | you just need to create the installation medium once, cant you even just buy a key online |
| 05:09.09 | nevcairiel | or heck just buy the dvd box |
| 05:09.36 | Xuerian | They really should have made a bigger/"advanced" tutorial though, having to google around to find out where they put all the cheese is annoying |
| 05:09.48 | Xuerian | Well, closing metro programs isn't really advanced, but whatever. |
| 05:10.33 | Xuerian | On that note, http://www.hanselman.com/blog/Windows8ProductivityWhoMovedMyCheeseOhThereItIs.aspx is a good article if someone hasn't actually read it already |
| 05:11.57 | Dagmar | Better plan: Just wait for the Microsoft sales reps to deliver free copies to the office. |
| 05:13.05 | Xuerian | Step 1a: Acquire office |
| 05:13.38 | Dagmar | I work at a big uni. they're a bit desperate for us all to run the latest/greatest |
| 05:14.43 | Dagmar | I wound up paying a whole $30 for three separate Win7 licences last time |
| 05:14.49 | Dagmar | Pro, Home, and Ultimate. |
| 05:15.06 | Xuerian | Tasty. |
| 05:15.39 | nevcairiel | i paid 45 for two win8 licenses so far, both pro of course, and the media center upgrade pack is free too |
| 05:16.28 | Arrowmaster | i think i have 4 win7 licenses somewhere from msdnaa |
| 05:18.09 | Dagmar | Hmm... |
| 05:18.46 | Dagmar | Checking my email, it looks like they're giving Win8 upgrade to students for free and faculty for $9.75 |
| 05:19.11 | Dagmar | I'm going to have to see if that would invalidate any used Win7 licences |
| 05:20.31 | Dagmar | First I guess I'll have to remind Karen to update the bloody page tho |
| 05:21.01 | Dagmar | Hopefully the answer is not going to be "something brokw in the site" |
| 05:21.58 | Dagmar | Those Home & Pro licences have never been run on anything but their VMs. I doubt I'll put Win8 on bare metal anytime soon |
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| 05:43.42 | bluworkcow | hmm |
| 05:43.44 | bluworkcow | beep! |
| 05:44.20 | Semlar | boop |
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| 05:54.58 | kd3 | hah; http://i.imgur.com/EC3PB.jpg |
| 05:56.07 | Cairenn | *snark* |
| 05:59.12 | Torhal | Cairenn: Does this look painful or pleasurable? (NSFW as a motherfucker) http://i.imgur.com/2xlSc.gif |
| 05:59.44 | kd3 | didn't you '...' me for posting that gif before? |
| 05:59.55 | bluworkcow | hehe |
| 06:00.07 | Torhal | kd3: Yes, because I lacked words but figured it deserved a fucking response :) |
| 06:00.56 | Cairenn | ummmmm .... |
| 06:00.59 | Torhal | lol |
| 06:01.04 | kd3 | hahaha |
| 06:01.33 | Coote | quietly stares into his crown and coke. |
| 06:02.00 | kd3 | in slightly more serious news, re the frankenstorm: http://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/124cb0/heres_what_you_should_be_doing_to_prep_for/c6s6gye |
| 06:02.12 | Semlar | that's a lot of words |
| 06:02.51 | bluworkcow | wordswordswordswordswordswords |
| 06:03.16 | Coote | 1993 called, it wants its storm of the century back. |
| 06:03.16 | bluworkcow | wall of text with no paragraphs = tldr |
| 06:03.29 | Semlar | http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT18/refresh/AL1812W5_NL+gif/054331W5_NL_sm.gif aw yeah, florida's in the clear for once |
| 06:04.06 | Coote | if shit does go down, like some think it will, and i run out of booze, what the hell will i do? i wont be able to live without it for however long. |
| 06:04.30 | Semlar | better make sure you don't run out then |
| 06:04.42 | kd3 | I was looking at a precip forecast earlier today and was amused at how georgia won't see a drop from this |
| 06:04.48 | Coote | i went out and stocked up the other day, and I already drank 1/4 of it all. |
| 06:04.59 | Semlar | the storm hasn't even hit yet! |
| 06:05.01 | Semlar | PACE YOURSELF |
| 06:05.39 | Coote | Who paces themselves on their birthday? Gotta drink until I forget I'm getting old. |
| 06:06.39 | Xuerian | On behalf of the areas hit by the derecho this summer, it is my turn to do this |
| 06:06.40 | Xuerian | HA HA |
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| 06:07.18 | kd3 | the thing is, if this storm hit, say, florida a month or two back it wouldn't even be in the news... new england does not deal with this kind of thing all that often |
| 06:07.31 | Semlar_ | oh yeah, new england is fucked |
| 06:07.39 | Semlar_ | they are not prepared for hurricanes |
| 06:07.40 | Coote | derechos arent funny. half of ny got ripped up by them 14 years ago |
| 06:07.50 | Coote | and i just went and made myself feel older :( |
| 06:08.11 | Xuerian | Coote: I got hit by it this year, that wasn't funny at all. But someone else getting hurt is, society tells us |
| 06:08.36 | Xuerian | The front wave was cool as heck to watch once I got some goggles, though |
| 06:09.20 | Coote | cool to watch, until you find there's actually a goddamn supercell imbeded in it |
| 06:09.26 | Cairenn | oh what a load of bs - the NE of the US and the Atlantic Provinces of Canada have had hurricanes before, and will again |
| 06:09.47 | Xuerian | Cool to watch until the power goes out for two of the hottest weeks of the year |
| 06:09.51 | Coote | cairenn; we usually get the ass end of them though, not head on. |
| 06:09.55 | Cairenn | this whole "they don't know how to deal with it" is a bunch of crap |
| 06:10.06 | Semlar | it's usually pretty devastating when they get hit by a hurricane |
| 06:10.08 | Xuerian | Also point, we had what, Andrew up here a while ago? |
| 06:10.40 | Cairenn | Coote: I grew up in Halifax NS |
| 06:11.05 | Coote | i think the big fear of a hurricane hitting the northeast is if canada decides to be a dick with a storm cell coming over the great lakes :P |
| 06:11.37 | Xuerian | What, you don't like atmospheric block parties? |
| 06:11.47 | Coote | only when they happen elsewhere |
| 06:13.26 | Semlar | they better hope that computer model isn't accurate because that is practically worst case scenario |
| 06:18.39 | bluworkcow | ptr forum posts are amusing |
| 06:18.48 | bluworkcow | "zomg blizzard fix it so i can play PTR" |
| 06:18.52 | bluworkcow | *crickets* |
| 06:24.37 | Thunder_Child | Emails out |
| 06:24.43 | Thunder_Child | since kd3 is lacking |
| 06:25.01 | Arrowmaster | just tabbed over to see the announcement |
| 06:25.07 | Arrowmaster | after the beeping |
| 06:34.32 | Ackis | there's got to be an easy way for you to convert the first character of a string to upper case from lowercase in lua? |
| 06:34.32 | Thunder_Child | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VqTwnAuHws that is damn cool |
| 06:35.55 | bluworkcow | what no tr equiv. ackis ? |
| 06:36.16 | Xuerian | Ackis: Unicode is never easy |
| 06:39.04 | Xuerian | Thunder_Child: And everywhere piano owners cringed |
| 06:42.41 | bluworkcow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7005431025 |
| 06:42.45 | bluworkcow | not sure if serious. |
| 06:44.01 | Thunder_Child | Xuerian: worth it |
| 06:48.05 | Ackis | I'm failing at pattern matching, anyone feel like correcting this: |
| 06:48.05 | Ackis | lua> foo = "pet";lc=foo:match("%l?");uc = string.upper(lc);newfoo= foo:gsub("%l?%;+",uc);print(newfoo) |
| 06:48.05 | lua_bot | Ackis: pet |
| 06:49.28 | Semlar | what are you trying to do |
| 06:49.52 | Ackis | turn pet in to Pet |
| 06:50.31 | Torhal | Cairenn: I didn't mean to offend, BTW... |
| 06:50.40 | Cairenn | you didn't |
| 06:50.49 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:51.01 | Torhal | Ok…your response was somewhat ambiguous. |
| 06:51.11 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: sylvanaar has a good solution for this in Prat |
| 06:51.46 | Semlar | str:gsub("^%l", string.upper) ? |
| 06:52.04 | Arrowmaster | no hes got a utf8 aware solution |
| 06:52.37 | Arrowmaster | the pattern is defined in a constant somewhere in Prat |
| 06:52.38 | Semlar | encoding is for bitches |
| 06:54.36 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: why doesnt the hg web interface work anymore |
| 06:54.51 | Arrowmaster | i just get a sowwy kitten |
| 06:56.20 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Dafuq? The web tagging, if that's what you're referring to, has only ever worked (and has only been intended for) SVN. |
| 06:56.28 | bluworkcow | sowwy kitteh is awesome |
| 06:56.39 | bluworkcow | i sometimes type in random wowace pages to see him |
| 06:56.52 | bluworkcow | www.wowace.com/TorhalIsSexy |
| 06:57.17 | Xuerian | giggles and sets his editor to Comic Sans@8 |
| 06:57.30 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: no i ment the interface that hg ripped off from gitweb that used to show up when you tried to visit an hg repo in a browser |
| 06:58.04 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Dude, I think you're five years behind or something I didn't even know about broke. |
| 06:58.31 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 06:59.36 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: youll have to go looking for sylvanaar's magic lua pattern yourself then, i dont have hg on this machine |
| 06:59.43 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: nor do I |
| 06:59.52 | Arrowmaster | make Torhal find it then |
| 07:00.07 | Ackis | well, it is a bug in torhal's code |
| 07:00.38 | Semlar | i don't know what the utf8 string would look like so i don't know |
| 07:01.29 | Arrowmaster | ~logs |
| 07:01.30 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://purl.rikers.org/%23wowuidev/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. |
| 07:02.00 | Xuerian | Didn't know spaced lines weren't logged. That could make for some funny entries. |
| 07:02.15 | Kemayo | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:02.32 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:03.26 | Arrowmaster | well that failed me |
| 07:03.32 | Arrowmaster | fuck it im going to bed |
| 07:05.30 | bluworkcow | http://www.wowace.com/TorhalIsSexy/ Should have a gif of Torhal mud wrestling IMHO |
| 07:06.17 | Arrowmaster | rofl http://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/125me9/my_boss_and_i_were_stumped_by_a_simple_shell_issue/ |
| 07:06.21 | Arrowmaster | ok now going to bed |
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| 08:38.39 | bluworkcow | dwayne dibley |
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| 08:43.03 | zenzelezz | Youtube keeps cutting off the end of videos for me again |
| 08:43.11 | zenzelezz | happened some months back too |
| 08:44.45 | nevcairiel | you forgot to pay the youtube tax again, didnt you? |
| 08:47.09 | zenzelezz | I was hoping no-one would notice |
| 09:01.43 | bluworkcow | huh? |
| 09:01.49 | bluworkcow | for some reason i keep spamming F1 :| |
| 09:01.59 | bluworkcow | so chrome's like opening help over and over again |
| 09:04.08 | bluworkcow | eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! |
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| 09:45.17 | Elkano | zenzelezz, tried switching to HTML5? |
| 09:46.01 | zenzelezz | hm, don't think so... will have to chek |
| 09:46.03 | zenzelezz | and check |
| 09:46.28 | Elkano | well, if you didn't, maybe it helps |
| 09:46.43 | zenzelezz | I understood the implication :-) |
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| 09:56.40 | bluworkcow | i r home tiems |
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| 10:17.58 | starlon | I always LOVE when I discover a spider crawling on me. >.> |
| 10:18.15 | starlon | blames nevcairiel |
| 10:18.37 | nevcairiel | sends more spiders |
| 10:18.51 | starlon | you would |
| 10:19.08 | nevcairiel | sends some tiny scorpions for good measure |
| 10:19.52 | starlon | has fried scorpions for snack. |
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| 10:32.43 | Fisker | so Adys |
| 10:32.53 | Fisker | i'm asking EC to launch an anti-trust investigation into google |
| 10:32.55 | Fisker | you with me? |
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| 11:06.02 | starlon | anti-trusts Fisker. |
| 11:07.07 | starlon | Fisker: So asking you to be my Google Proxy is out of the question? |
| 11:07.52 | starlon | Fisker > Siri |
| 11:21.04 | Fisker | so Adys |
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| 11:59.51 | Fisker | g0urra hey |
| 11:59.55 | Fisker | hey g0urra |
| 12:00.13 | starlon | hey g0urra hey |
| 12:00.54 | Fisker | it's happening starlon |
| 12:01.02 | starlon | What's that, Fisker? |
| 12:01.33 | Fisker | what isn't it? |
| 12:01.54 | starlon | I hope you make cents. |
| 12:04.05 | Fisker | not even cents |
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| 12:04.35 | starlon | It's easy. Grab your best guitar and hit the subways. |
| 12:05.36 | Fisker | man steam is fast updating in linux |
| 12:06.27 | starlon | Can you operate steam from the command line? |
| 12:07.31 | Fisker | this isn't the linux version of steam |
| 12:07.54 | starlon | About them cents. |
| 12:08.04 | Fisker | just checking if i could get linux running |
| 12:08.10 | Fisker | so i can beta some steam linux |
| 12:08.13 | starlon | ah |
| 12:08.17 | starlon | cool deal |
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| 12:10.23 | Fisker | derp |
| 12:10.38 | starlon | Couldn't have said it better myself. |
| 12:10.59 | starlon | should be in bed. :/ |
| 12:11.11 | starlon | Reddit consumes me. |
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| 12:21.57 | Fisker | man this is slow |
| 12:45.44 | Fisker | man Adys i don't get why you complain about issues installing wow on linux all the time |
| 12:45.45 | Fisker | :3 |
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| 12:56.23 | foxlit | "The shadowy protectors of Pandaria's temples" vs "These brave Pandaren defend the temples of Pandaria" |
| 12:57.00 | foxlit | Whoever wrote the faction descriptions must've been given a document that said "pandaria, temples!" |
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| 13:52.31 | F16Gaming | is it safe to assume that, whenever a mob is damaged by someone in your party, that mob is going to be targeted? |
| 13:53.00 | F16Gaming | (UnitIsTappedByPlayer can't be used with GUIDs) |
| 13:53.11 | F16Gaming | and there doesn't seem to be any other way to check |
| 13:53.53 | foxlit | no. |
| 13:54.07 | foxlit | aoe attacks hit more than their primary target |
| 13:55.19 | F16Gaming | hm |
| 13:55.29 | F16Gaming | then how am i supposed to check on CLEU, if the attacked mob is tapped? |
| 13:55.33 | foxlit | you aren't. |
| 13:55.54 | F16Gaming | how i wish there was a RAID_KILL for CLEU... |
| 13:56.05 | F16Gaming | they got UNIT_DIED, PARTY_KILL, but nothing for raid kills |
| 13:56.51 | F16Gaming | foxlit: so there is no way to determine if the mob who died in UNIT_DIED was tapped by player or someone in their group? |
| 13:57.09 | F16Gaming | if aoe was used on it |
| 13:57.10 | foxlit | I don't think so. |
| 13:58.46 | F16Gaming | current code: https://github.com/F16Gaming/KillTrack/blob/master/KillTrack.lua#L123-164 |
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| 14:25.48 | F16Gaming | hm |
| 14:25.49 | F16Gaming | then |
| 14:26.00 | F16Gaming | does CLEU have a special event for the *first* attack on a mob, tagging it? |
| 14:39.11 | F16Gaming | apparently not... |
| 14:39.53 | F16Gaming | what about storing the name of the first detected player damaging it? (the chances of walking in on a mob currently being attacked and getting the first registered damage in CLEU would be very low i think) |
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| 15:09.18 | Vlad| | :3 |
| 15:09.24 | Tsulong | lol |
| 15:09.24 | Vlad| | I don't think so F16Gaming |
| 15:09.27 | Tsulong | anyone on us servers |
| 15:10.15 | Tsulong | (Sidenote: I love people who think rarespawn timers are affected by server restarts) |
| 15:20.13 | nebula169 | usually the servers are down long enough to allow many to be up after maintenance is over |
| 15:20.39 | Tsulong | Galleon: specificly |
| 15:21.24 | nebula169 | his respawn range is so wide, that can apply to him aswell :p |
| 15:21.57 | Tsulong | it can but |
| 15:22.03 | Tsulong | Your not seeing what im saying |
| 15:22.12 | Tsulong | They think that just because a server goes down it means he will spawn. |
| 15:22.24 | Tsulong | Which in fact the likleyhood of that is very slim |
| 15:22.43 | nebula169 | i see that, i just know it hasn't been that for a very long time |
| 15:23.43 | Arrowmaster | yes its a pumpkin http://i.imgur.com/PFS5P.jpg |
| 15:23.55 | nebula169 | a very pink pumpkin |
| 15:24.53 | nebula169 | which apparent exist but are hiddeous looking, lol |
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| 15:35.22 | karl_w_w | 3 cheers for colorado |
| 15:37.17 | mckenziemc | stabs karl_w_w thrice. |
| 15:39.02 | karl_w_w | so you're a republican |
| 15:39.41 | mckenziemc | if you say so |
| 16:03.08 | Shirik | http://9gag.com/gag/5684757 |
| 16:07.11 | pompy | http://www.news12.com/articleDetail.jsp?articleId=338360&position=1&news_type=news state of emergency |
| 16:07.58 | karl_w_w | that dude has the best name |
| 16:10.57 | pompy | lol |
| 16:11.51 | pompy | "Christie was criticized for vacationing in Florida with his family while a snowstorm pummeled the state in 2010. But he gained fame the following year for telling New Jerseyans to "Get the hell off the beach" as Hurricane Irene approached." |
| 16:11.58 | pompy | heh i remember that news conf |
| 16:12.57 | pompy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnKhG1z7J_A |
| 16:14.56 | Mike-N-Go | pompy: I saw that guy talking on the weather channel a few minutes ago. |
| 16:15.28 | pompy | yah prolly from the press conf an hour ago. heh. |
| 16:16.16 | pompy | thank god i dont live on the island..bc they are getting evac'd .. but im still 10 mins from the atlantic ocean. |
| 16:17.28 | Shirik | what |
| 16:17.35 | Shirik | you can declare a state of emergency |
| 16:17.38 | Shirik | before anything actually happens? |
| 16:18.02 | Mike-N-Go | I am in California. The system is making an impact here, too. But mostly temperature. |
| 16:18.04 | pompy | well its right around the corner |
| 16:18.12 | Shirik | But he gained fame the following year for telling New Jerseyans to "Get the hell off the beach" as Hurricane Irene approached. |
| 16:18.14 | Shirik | I like this guy |
| 16:18.28 | pompy | yeah Shirik the youtube link is of that press conf |
| 16:18.39 | pompy | says it 30 sec in |
| 16:18.57 | pompy | he followed it with "you maximized your tan" |
| 16:19.37 | Mike-N-Go | Santa Ana Winds related. |
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| 16:24.45 | Ressy | The stormsurge & flooding apparently will be bad. |
| 16:25.07 | Ennea | so, apparently, my default blizz interface target's target frame has gone missing |
| 16:25.14 | Ressy | Where I'm at, we'll get more wind & rain than anything.. Especially with a 3rd storm stalled, and will probably merge with the remnants of the perfect storm. |
| 16:25.15 | Ennea | and i have no idea why, since there doesn't seem to be an option for it |
| 16:25.17 | Ennea | anybody got any ideas? |
| 16:25.33 | Ennea | already tried a fresh WTF folder, didn't help |
| 16:27.49 | Shirik | uh |
| 16:27.52 | Shirik | isn't that an option? |
| 16:27.55 | Shirik | I'm pretty sure it is |
| 16:28.18 | Ennea | i couldn't find anything. i think it's not |
| 16:28.21 | Ennea | if it is, where can i find it? |
| 16:29.27 | Mike-N-Go | Ennea: Did you trash/move/rename your WTF, cache, and interface folders? |
| 16:29.52 | Ennea | only WTF. i doubt it could possibly be related to the interface folder, but i may be wrong |
| 16:29.54 | Mike-N-Go | You might have an addon that modifies the bar? |
| 16:29.55 | Ennea | i'll give it a shot |
| 16:30.02 | Ennea | oh, i know i don't have anything like that |
| 16:30.08 | Ennea | and i tried disabling all, of course |
| 16:30.45 | Mike-N-Go | If you have an addon that is conflicting, disabling it by renaming the interface folder will be improvement. |
| 16:31.30 | Mike-N-Go | Sometimes addons interact in weird ways. Worth a try before reinstalling. |
| 16:32.14 | Mike-N-Go | Ennea: Did you recently change settings in the blizzard options? There might be some option to explain this behavior. |
| 16:33.09 | Mike-N-Go | Ennea: And did you check if the target-target is really enabled? And you cannot target yourself to test the blizzard target-target frame. You need something else =P |
| 16:33.23 | Ennea | ^ duh |
| 16:33.27 | Ennea | no, i didn't change anything |
| 16:33.35 | Ennea | also, it was gone for quite a while |
| 16:33.43 | Ennea | i just noticed because i saw it on a friend's screenshot |
| 16:33.46 | Ennea | no changes to any settings |
| 16:33.48 | Ennea | and, now |
| 16:33.54 | Ennea | with a renamed wtf, cache AND interface folder |
| 16:33.58 | Ennea | no change to the whole thing |
| 16:33.59 | Shirik | (09:33:06) (Mike-N-Go) Ennea: And did you check if the target-target is really enabled? And you cannot target yourself to test the blizzard target-target frame. You need something else =P |
| 16:34.00 | Shirik | why not? |
| 16:34.04 | Shirik | That seems like a stupid restriction |
| 16:34.09 | Ennea | still no target's target frame |
| 16:34.13 | Ennea | and, enabled where? |
| 16:34.18 | Ennea | as i said, i couldn't find any options for it |
| 16:34.23 | Ennea | was told it's enabled by default, though |
| 16:34.43 | Mike-N-Go | Ennea: Target-target was not on by defuault, last I checked |
| 16:35.10 | Ennea | well, where can i enable it then? |
| 16:35.14 | Ennea | there's no option for it anywhere |
| 16:35.15 | Mike-N-Go | I don't have a working copy of WoW on this computer, so I am going off of memery. |
| 16:36.23 | Ennea | ah, fuck |
| 16:36.25 | Ennea | sorry |
| 16:36.27 | Ennea | it IS an option |
| 16:36.34 | Ennea | but it's in the depths of nowhere, once again |
| 16:36.41 | Ennea | the interface options of wow remain a fucking mess |
| 16:36.45 | Ennea | it's in the combat section |
| 16:38.09 | Ennea | happens way too often |
| 16:38.21 | Mike-N-Go | Shirik: Dunno, my observations when testing it. |
| 16:38.23 | Ennea | i'm looking for something in that huge mess of interface options and end up not finding it at all |
| 16:38.37 | Mike-N-Go | Ennea: I know your pain. |
| 16:38.47 | Mike-N-Go | Ennea: http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2010/02/18/checking-your-targets-target-or-how-to-taunt-on-3-stacks/ |
| 16:39.02 | Mike-N-Go | That link has a picture of the checkbox in question. |
| 16:39.19 | Ennea | Mike-N-Go is correct about yourself as a target not working for the target's target, though |
| 16:40.04 | Mike-N-Go | Ennea: Glad you found it! |
| 16:40.10 | Ennea | so am i |
| 16:40.12 | Ennea | what a pain D: |
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| 17:04.26 | pompy | Arrowmaster: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.smartglass finally up |
| 17:04.55 | Shirik | is it really necessray? |
| 17:05.42 | pompy | gosh shirik :P |
| 17:05.53 | Ennea | shit's not even compatible with my phone |
| 17:05.56 | Shirik | like seriously, I don't use xbox |
| 17:06.07 | Shirik | I'm just trying to understand what benefit I would get out of having my phone control my xbox |
| 17:06.35 | TC-Away | a better keyboard for one |
| 17:06.38 | pompy | Ennea: what phone |
| 17:07.03 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: virtual keyboard > controller |
| 17:07.18 | Shirik | omg |
| 17:07.22 | pompy | lol |
| 17:07.23 | Shirik | I suddenly want this immensely |
| 17:08.05 | Shirik | (in case it wasn't obvious, that wasn't sarcastic) (neither was that) |
| 17:08.18 | Shirik | I can't stand their keyboard system |
| 17:08.24 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 17:08.29 | Shirik | hey fisker |
| 17:08.34 | Thunder_Child | i thought you just said you dont use xbox |
| 17:08.43 | Shirik | I have an xbox |
| 17:08.49 | Shirik | and every so often I get on it |
| 17:08.55 | Shirik | but that's fairly rare |
| 17:09.04 | Shirik | in b4 fisker says something about being on an xbox |
| 17:09.05 | Ennea | pompy, samsung galaxy y |
| 17:09.15 | pompy | it just need 4.0+ |
| 17:09.19 | pompy | needs* |
| 17:09.20 | Fisker | i don't get it Shirik |
| 17:09.21 | Shirik | wtb iphone |
| 17:09.24 | Ennea | well, y runs 2.3 |
| 17:09.31 | pompy | yeah upgrade! |
| 17:09.34 | pompy | ancient |
| 17:09.38 | Ennea | hm |
| 17:09.40 | Ennea | how about no? |
| 17:09.41 | Fisker | why would you want to buy an iphone? |
| 17:09.47 | Ennea | pompy, it runs |
| 17:09.47 | pompy | lol |
| 17:09.48 | Ennea | well |
| 17:09.49 | Shirik | I want to buy a surface |
| 17:09.54 | Ennea | i don't need ics or jb |
| 17:09.59 | Shirik | Thunder_Child! Didn't you say you were getting one? |
| 17:10.03 | pompy | missing out |
| 17:10.12 | Shirik | or was that someone else |
| 17:10.13 | Ennea | pompy, on what? |
| 17:10.16 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: yes, but not the RT |
| 17:10.18 | Thunder_Child | the pro |
| 17:10.24 | Shirik | does that come out later? |
| 17:10.27 | Thunder_Child | i refuse to have anything less than a full os |
| 17:10.28 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 17:10.30 | Thunder_Child | 3 months |
| 17:10.33 | Thunder_Child | iirc |
| 17:10.46 | Fisker | just don't get windows rt |
| 17:10.47 | Shirik | that seems like poor business planning |
| 17:10.56 | Shirik | I think it would have a much better showing if it were before christmas |
| 17:11.15 | sylvanaar | RT = stuff that runs on ARM devices |
| 17:11.20 | sylvanaar | what is to get |
| 17:12.13 | Fisker | it's generally pretty poor business planning |
| 17:12.16 | Funkeh` | RT = casual entertainment device |
| 17:12.20 | sylvanaar | though, Windows RT, and WinRT are unfortunately similarly named. I mix them up quite often when I am talking |
| 17:12.21 | Funkeh` | pro = laptop replacement |
| 17:12.46 | Fisker | RT won't really be corporately managable, it's as expensive as the iPad, it's without support for desktop software, etc. |
| 17:13.02 | Fisker | pls sylvanaar |
| 17:13.08 | Fisker | it's called Windows RT because of WinRT |
| 17:13.09 | Funkeh` | I thought RT was always aimed at home use? |
| 17:13.17 | Fisker | which is a mistake Funkeh` |
| 17:13.22 | nevcairiel | Windows RT is just your plain old tablet OS, dont think of it as a Windows |
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| 17:13.28 | sylvanaar | no, WinRT is not specific to ARM |
| 17:13.34 | Fisker | wi know |
| 17:13.37 | Fisker | *i |
| 17:13.45 | Fisker | but it's still called it after WinRT |
| 17:13.57 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: well seeing as the ipad /just/ got corp management it's not exactly behind. |
| 17:14.00 | sylvanaar | yes, that is pretty clear |
| 17:14.00 | Shirik | I love how it's called Windows RT |
| 17:14.03 | Shirik | and it's not RT |
| 17:14.11 | Fisker | true enough Thunder_Child |
| 17:14.19 | nevcairiel | RT doesnt stand for anything in that name |
| 17:14.22 | Shirik | Exactly |
| 17:14.24 | Fisker | but given it's Microsoft, if they really wanted to hurt Apple, this would've been a great place to start |
| 17:14.31 | Shirik | except RT in the context of an OS has always meant "realtime" |
| 17:14.32 | Fisker | now it's just another tablet |
| 17:14.35 | nevcairiel | same as XP never really meant anything |
| 17:14.57 | Funkeh` | it mean "experience" iirc |
| 17:15.02 | sylvanaar | somoeone google |
| 17:15.03 | nevcairiel | never officially |
| 17:15.14 | Funkeh` | oh |
| 17:15.30 | Fisker | and officially NT stood for New Technology or some bs like that |
| 17:15.44 | Shirik | imo Windows RT name was come up by some marketing intern that said "hey ARM means Real-Time right?" |
| 17:15.50 | Shirik | and then a year later they realized how stupid he was |
| 17:16.00 | Shirik | but it was already built into everything, so they couldn't remove it |
| 17:16.07 | sylvanaar | runtime |
| 17:16.09 | nevcairiel | Fisker: they canned that pretty quickly and just let NT stand for itself |
| 17:16.11 | Funkeh` | well microsoft marketing has always been "great" |
| 17:16.14 | Fisker | I think at some point some legal guys said "Hey don't call it Windows, or we'll get in trouble" |
| 17:16.39 | sylvanaar | Windows Runtime.... w/e |
| 17:16.43 | nevcairiel | WinRT is short for "Windows Runtime", but that has nothing to do with the name Windows RT |
| 17:16.49 | Fisker | sure does |
| 17:16.51 | Fisker | just not officially |
| 17:17.05 | nevcairiel | well sure, you can only run apps based on WinRT on Windows RT :P |
| 17:17.16 | sylvanaar | exactly |
| 17:17.33 | sylvanaar | lack of creativity is why it is called Windows RT |
| 17:17.50 | Fisker | yeah + legal i guess |
| 17:18.01 | nevcairiel | only microsoft can run other apps |
| 17:18.10 | Fisker | hopefully someone cracks that |
| 17:18.23 | nevcairiel | initially it was called Windows on ARM or something, but that might've just been a working title |
| 17:19.21 | sylvanaar | It reminds me of Chrome extensions |
| 17:19.34 | sylvanaar | the apps that you can get |
| 17:20.32 | Fisker | the google app in windows 8 is pretty neat |
| 17:20.35 | sylvanaar | Also, the windows store layout is pretty terrible, difficult to find anything |
| 17:20.41 | Fisker | except that some sites are the mobile version for some reason |
| 17:20.42 | Fisker | yeah |
| 17:20.50 | Fisker | talk about information overload :/ |
| 17:20.51 | sylvanaar | yeah, the google app is nice. It doesnt run under Windows RT though |
| 17:20.53 | nevcairiel | i didnt really browse around in the store yet |
| 17:21.03 | Fisker | why not? |
| 17:21.05 | Fisker | It's on the store |
| 17:21.13 | sylvanaar | That doesn't seem to matter |
| 17:21.14 | Fisker | it should be able to |
| 17:25.16 | sylvanaar | Supported processors: x86, x64 |
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| 17:47.32 | sylvanaar | I want an ambient light sensor for my desktop |
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| 17:57.11 | Thunder_Child | sylvanaar: for the monitors or keyboard? |
| 17:57.24 | sylvanaar | monitor |
| 17:57.30 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 17:57.32 | Fisker | thanks a lot |
| 17:57.34 | Thunder_Child | sylvanaar: http://stereopsis.com/flux/ |
| 17:57.40 | Thunder_Child | that's close |
| 17:57.54 | sylvanaar | oh nice, downloading.... |
| 17:59.09 | Xuerian | You know, I really don't mind the metro launcher |
| 17:59.29 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 17:59.31 | Shirik | you're welcome |
| 17:59.32 | Xuerian | Especially after learning all the shortcuts and gestures (which they really need to explain) |
| 17:59.41 | Shirik | when does WoW come to Surface? |
| 18:00.08 | Shirik | I guess in theory it will work on Surface Pro |
| 18:00.17 | Shirik | Turn on click to move I don't think you'd really need the keyboard, right? |
| 18:00.21 | Fisker | i was being sarcastic Shirik |
| 18:00.32 | Fisker | thanks a lot for not developing a system capable of deflecting hurricanes |
| 18:00.34 | Shirik | well you're welcome for allowing you to be sarcastic |
| 18:00.44 | Fisker | i thought you were smart and stuff |
| 18:00.46 | Xuerian | I imagine something like OPie would work well for that :p |
| 18:00.54 | Shirik | I am smart |
| 18:00.57 | Shirik | but I am also a republican |
| 18:01.01 | Shirik | which means I only care about myself |
| 18:01.13 | Shirik | and I'm on the west coast now |
| 18:02.03 | Fisker | republicans don't only care about themselves |
| 18:03.50 | karl_w_w | a smart republican? rare indeed! :P |
| 18:05.51 | Shirik | holy crap |
| 18:06.01 | Shirik | just saw an XKCDism in action |
| 18:06.18 | Shirik | http://xkcd.com/978/ |
| 18:06.27 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_beatings_will_continue_until_morale_improves&diff=519783818&oldid=504206447 |
| 18:13.48 | karl_w_w | Shirik you're a smart guy, my raid is tomorrow we will down 2 and work on the third, I have 1750 vp and am capped for the week, i have used 1 bonus roll so far this week, and i have done the first half of lfr. im about to do the second half of lfr. where do i use my bonus rolls and do i/how do i spend my vp? http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/frostmourne/larwood/simple |
| 18:13.52 | karl_w_w | :D |
| 18:15.09 | Shirik | I have no idea what any of that said |
| 18:15.15 | Shirik | I don't play WoW |
| 18:15.22 | karl_w_w | :( |
| 18:15.30 | Shirik | zero free time |
| 18:15.33 | Xuerian | He's too good for us |
| 18:15.45 | Xuerian | Just spends his time in these channels to remind us of that |
| 18:16.08 | karl_w_w | Xuerian you're a smart guy, etc. |
| 18:16.18 | Xuerian | nods approvingly. |
| 18:17.04 | Shirik | I spend my time on the private server called "TCG" |
| 18:17.15 | Jammer | karl_w_w: just save your roll bonus for next week? :) |
| 18:17.29 | Shirik | it doesn't have all of the characters that are in the Blizzard version, but it has 4 differnt Thralls! |
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| 18:19.38 | karl_w_w | Jammer: why? :P |
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| 18:45.31 | Teapot | Fairly quick (and hopefully simple) question. I'm trying to badger Bartender4 into showing me an actionbar when I have anything eelected/targeted - what would be the command I'd need to do that? |
| 18:47.45 | Seerah | I use Dominos, but... if there's no such setting for show states like that, then you use a macro conditional |
| 18:47.51 | End_ | Teapot: under the state config you could probably do something like [exists] show; hide |
| 18:47.51 | Seerah | Teapot: ^^ |
| 18:48.15 | Teapot | Thanks End_, that worked! ^^ |
| 18:48.20 | End_ | np |
| 18:50.11 | End_ | Teapot: you may want to make sure you have it set up to hide for [vehicleui] and [petbattle] as well, since that overrides the default behavior |
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| 18:50.48 | End_ | (the copy conditionals button can help you there) |
| 18:52.26 | Teapot | Ah yes, it had petbattle by default, so I added in the vehicle UI too |
| 18:54.07 | Coote | My desk looks so lonely with only 1 screen. RIP old buddy, you were an awesome little 19". :( |
| 18:55.33 | Teapot | Also, are there written rules for this chat? I found it mostly by accident, so it's worth me asking. |
| 18:55.54 | Coote | I think any rules can be summed up to "don't be a dick" or something. |
| 18:56.02 | Iriel | Teapot: Mostly "dont be a dick, dont try and break Blizzard's TOS" |
| 18:56.06 | Iriel | See, we all agree |
| 18:56.24 | Teapot | Works for mea. |
| 18:56.28 | Teapot | *me. |
| 18:56.51 | Thunder_Child | Lies, people are dicks in here all the time |
| 18:57.08 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: doesn't mean we LIKE it |
| 18:57.33 | Thunder_Child | I dunno.... |
| 18:57.39 | Thunder_Child | it can be amusing |
| 18:58.05 | Seerah | sometimes.... |
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| 18:58.20 | Seerah | if it's not amusing you'll get yelled at or kicked :P |
| 18:58.38 | Thunder_Child | pfft, Cairenn kicks people all the time |
| 18:58.42 | Thunder_Child | and it is quite amusing |
| 18:58.53 | Seerah | because THEY weren't amusing :P |
| 18:59.22 | Iriel | So perhaps it's "Dont be a dick unless it's amusing"? |
| 18:59.55 | Thunder_Child | I'm good with that |
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| 19:12.42 | Mr_Rabies | Tsulong, you here? :o |
| 19:13.49 | Mr_Rabies | well, check your pm's when you get back, please :o |
| 19:33.01 | Fisker | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20080621 <-isn't this dumb as fuck? |
| 19:33.21 | Fisker | couldn't they just have the random search being generated on their systems instead of being embedded on the boarding pass? |
| 19:36.12 | Iriel | Fisker: yes, it is |
| 19:36.30 | Xuerian | What, are you telling me that security through obscurity isn't secure? |
| 19:36.32 | Xuerian | Stop lying |
| 19:37.34 | Fisker | hey Xuerian |
| 19:37.42 | Iriel | It does somewhat lend credence to the 'it's all just security theatre anyway' argument |
| 19:38.09 | Xuerian | Have to keep up appearances. |
| 19:38.16 | Xuerian | hey Fisker |
| 19:41.06 | Iriel | I hate it when groups go from being awesome to wierd |
| 19:41.10 | Iriel | (music that is) |
| 19:41.16 | Iriel | (though the same applies to MMO groups) |
| 19:41.32 | Iriel | (and bad-wierd) |
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| 19:51.17 | karl_w_w | I hate when potentially interesting insights go weird |
| 19:51.35 | karl_w_w | (when people add unspecific things in brackets) |
| 19:51.39 | karl_w_w | (and stuff) |
| 19:52.00 | Semlar | (>'.')> |
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| 20:01.24 | Iriel | karl_w_w: heh, sorry.. one of those times I should have thought about what I was going to say BEFORE I started typing |
| 20:01.57 | karl_w_w | i wonder if i could get through lfr using my psp as a vnc client to play wow |
| 20:03.19 | Mr_Rabies | ctrl f |
| 20:03.20 | Mr_Rabies | done |
| 20:03.41 | Mr_Rabies | you'll still probably outdps someone |
| 20:07.58 | karl_w_w | answer: no, because realvnc cant relay directx render, it seems |
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| 20:13.21 | Teapot | So, general question: I'm hoping to modify the minimap to make it larger and square. Which mod would you use for that? |
| 20:13.24 | karl_w_w | or opengl |
| 20:13.25 | Iriel | Run WoW in a vm with a VNC front end? |
| 20:14.36 | karl_w_w | Teapot: sexymap |
| 20:15.30 | karl_w_w | Iriel: yeah that would probably work |
| 20:15.47 | Thunder_Child | refresh will be horribad i suspect |
| 20:15.56 | Thunder_Child | need to use something like rgs |
| 20:16.36 | Teapot | I dunno, I think a vm would be overkill. |
| 20:17.00 | Teapot | Are there no VNC servers that could work? |
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| 20:31.25 | Shirik | it is immensely difficult for a VNC server to do that |
| 20:31.29 | Shirik | honestly I don't even know how RDP does it |
| 20:35.16 | Sintacks | would it be considered dedicated, or insane, to be VP capped on two toons, before wednesday |
| 20:35.32 | Xuerian | "But how can we kill that which has no life?" |
| 20:43.37 | Ackis | [p;'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' \\\\[]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]=========p-------------------------ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp |
| 20:43.58 | Sintacks | dafuq Ackis |
| 20:44.05 | Torhal | Sintacks: Ackis's cats are dicks. |
| 20:44.25 | Thunder_Child | ^' |
| 20:44.33 | Sintacks | Torhal's Ackis' casts |
| 20:44.46 | Sintacks | casts rewind on himself |
| 20:44.53 | Torhal | mckenziemcs Sintacks. |
| 20:44.53 | Sintacks | Torhal's Ackis' cats |
| 20:44.55 | znf | foxlit, is this still needed? http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/opie-world-markers |
| 20:45.58 | foxlit | no |
| 20:46.07 | znf | thought so |
| 20:47.08 | mckenziemc | Torhal |
| 20:47.19 | Torhal | I disagree. |
| 20:47.47 | mckenziemc | i do too |
| 20:47.55 | Sintacks | |
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| 20:58.43 | Sintacks | http://puu.sh/1jq2e |
| 20:58.44 | Sintacks | lul wat |
| 21:04.16 | mckenziemc | good thing Amarande isn't here eh? |
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| 22:12.00 | n00bwork | 181 Broadway |
| 22:12.08 | n00bwork | asdf i hate right click paste |
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| 22:52.54 | Adys | http://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/126hrt/we_hear_about_the_rise_of_the_extreme_far_right/c6skayy |
| 22:52.54 | Adys | hahah |
| 22:53.00 | Adys | Kalroth: that one's for you |
| 22:57.29 | tlund | 1x [ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED] AddOn "FishingBuddy" tried to call the protected function "CompactRaidFrame2:Show()". |
| 22:57.32 | tlund | !BugGrabber-r188\BugGrabber.lua:587: in function <!BugGrabber\BugGrabber.lua:587> |
| 22:57.35 | tlund | <in C code> |
| 22:57.37 | tlund | FrameXML\CompactUnitFrame.lua:276: in function "CompactUnitFrame_UpdateVisible" |
| 22:57.41 | tlund | FrameXML\CompactUnitFrame.lua:234: in function "CompactUnitFrame_UpdateAll" |
| 22:57.42 | tlund | what might cause that? I get that for different attons, not not "FishingBuddy" all the time |
| 22:57.45 | tlund | FrameXML\CompactUnitFrame.lua:46: in function <FrameXML\CompactUnitFrame.lua:43> |
| 22:57.48 | tlund | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:58.11 | Adys | tlund: please use dpaste.com to paste in the future |
| 22:58.21 | tlund | Adys: 6 lines are fine on the channel. |
| 22:58.28 | tlund | when it is idle. |
| 22:58.28 | Thunder_Child | or pastebin which is in the topic |
| 22:58.38 | Adys | its just more polite |
| 22:58.44 | Adys | tlund: and most likely an addon modifying the raid frames. try disabling them one by one |
| 22:58.48 | Thunder_Child | there is no hard and fast rule tlund, it's just...what Adys said |
| 22:59.09 | tlund | there is nothing "unpolite" about pasting 6 lines to a channel where no one has said anything for 5 minutes. |
| 22:59.53 | Adys | you won't get far in life if you try to explain to people who think you're an arse why you're not |
| 23:00.12 | tlund | Adys: you think I am an arse for pasting those 6 lines? |
| 23:00.19 | Adys | no, I'm saying it as a general rule |
| 23:00.26 | tlund | yes |
| 23:00.29 | tlund | i am very aware of that |
| 23:00.31 | Adys | i dont give a shit, but if someone tells you "do this, it's more polite", you say "alright" |
| 23:00.38 | tlund | i am a quite experienced user of irc |
| 23:00.43 | tlund | i looked at the channel |
| 23:00.51 | tlund | saw it was idle since 5 minutes |
| 23:00.54 | Adys | dude its fine, just use dpaste next time |
| 23:00.55 | tlund | counted the lines i wanted to show |
| 23:01.04 | tlund | and decided it was fine to paste 6 lines |
| 23:01.14 | tlund | i don't need you to explain anything about irc or pasting to me. |
| 23:01.48 | tlund | i am not going to use dpaste the next time, if the situation is similar. |
| 23:01.58 | tlund | i am going to use dpaste if the situation requires it. |
| 23:02.04 | tlund | dont tell me what to do next time. |
| 23:02.16 | nebula169 | why are you still talking? |
| 23:02.16 | Adys | tlund: what's going to happen is next time you talk nobody is going to give a shit about you |
| 23:02.18 | tlund | now |
| 23:02.26 | nebula169 | can you dpaste your thoughts next time? thanks |
| 23:02.28 | tlund | do you have anything better to add |
| 23:02.34 | tlund | other then "disable all addons" for me? |
| 23:02.40 | tlund | any pointers on where to start looking? |
| 23:02.54 | Thunder_Child | somewhere else |
| 23:02.58 | nebula169 | the blizzard raid frames hate everything pretty equally |
| 23:02.59 | Adys | tlund: I don't help "experienced IRC users" who behave like pricks |
| 23:03.23 | tlund | nebula169: lots of globals? |
| 23:04.04 | tlund | Adys: please use dpaste.com to paste in the future |
| 23:05.06 | Adys | Cairenn: tell either me or him to shut up |
| 23:05.20 | Thunder_Child | that's what /ignore is for |
| 23:05.21 | tlund | Adys: please use dpaste.com to paste in the future |
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| 23:05.45 | tlund | anyhow |
| 23:05.46 | Iriel | How about you both stop being childish/ |
| 23:06.02 | tlund | as far as i can rember, the two addons i seen "cause" it is fisingbudy and raidachievementquery |
| 23:06.20 | tlund | they shouldn't really have that much in common |
| 23:06.42 | Iriel | It's possible it's indirect taint |
| 23:06.56 | Iriel | i.e. the actual culprit picked up fishingbuddy's taint via a global |
| 23:07.02 | tlund | ah yes: 1x [ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED] AddOn "RAQ" tried to call the protected function "CompactRaidFrame1:Show()". |
| 23:07.05 | Dark_Elf | why would fishing buddy be used in a raid anyways? |
| 23:07.19 | tlund | Iriel: would enabling taintlogging help me find it? |
| 23:07.24 | tlund | Dark_Elf: it isnt |
| 23:07.29 | tlund | Dark_Elf: but its still loaded |
| 23:07.42 | Iriel | tlund: Perhaps, it's extremely spammy tho. |
| 23:07.53 | tlund | Iriel: it logs to a file, right? |
| 23:08.06 | tlund | Iriel: but I would have to turn it on, and then trigger the problem again? |
| 23:08.15 | Iriel | Yes, i just meant that the log is by no means easy to traverse |
| 23:08.30 | tlund | mmm, ok |
| 23:08.34 | foxlit | also incomplete. |
| 23:08.54 | tlund | since I have two different addons triggering/showing up, is there anything i could look for in them? |
| 23:09.48 | Cairenn | Children, behave. tlund in the future, please use a paste location (dpaste, pastebin, whatever) if you have more than a couple lines to paste, no matter how quiet it is in the channel. It's (a) more courteous and (b) actually easier for people to read than in an irc channel, since doing it in channel adds extra crap like your name, time stamps, etc etc etc |
| 23:10.07 | foxlit | Look suspiciously at any interaction with FrameXML code in addons. |
| 23:11.30 | tlund | foxlit: i assume there is no way of knowing what is from FrameXML, without just .. knowing? |
| 23:11.37 | foxlit | yep. |
| 23:11.55 | tlund | i havn't read it much since back in 3.x some time |
| 23:12.00 | tlund | when it was still easy to extract |
| 23:12.09 | kd3 | it's still easy to extract |
| 23:12.10 | kd3 | ~framexml |
| 23:12.10 | purl | rumour has it, framexml is Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console or open 'World of Warcraft.app' --args -console after game loads press ~ and enter commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 23:12.59 | tlund | kd3: that is NOT easy, when you don't use a US keyboard layout. pressing "~" does nothing, pressin the key where "~" is on the US keyboard does nothing. :( |
| 23:13.22 | foxlit | isn't it actually ` anyway? |
| 23:13.29 | foxlit | ~ is on shift |
| 23:13.42 | Adys | you can just grab it online anyway |
| 23:13.45 | Adys | http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source |
| 23:13.47 | tlund | the top-left key on the keyboard has § and ½ for me :) |
| 23:13.48 | Fisker | A |
| 23:13.59 | tlund | yes yes, thats not my point |
| 23:14.01 | g0urra | tlund: so add an english keyboard layout. |
| 23:14.14 | g0urra | then shift+alt to switch |
| 23:14.18 | g0urra | ¯\(°_o)/¯ |
| 23:14.26 | tlund | g0urra: that would move it from "easy to extract" to "a hassle" |
| 23:14.58 | tlund | g0urra: that is not a good idea, since you push that by misstake inside wow, and suddenly, half your keybidings stop working |
| 23:15.10 | Adys | kd3: isnt it possible to do /console ExportInterfaceFiles code now? |
| 23:15.11 | g0urra | I NEVER do that |
| 23:15.11 | g0urra | ever |
| 23:15.14 | g0urra | if you do then you're bad |
| 23:15.17 | foxlit | Adys: no |
| 23:15.19 | kd3 | no |
| 23:15.20 | tlund | uuh |
| 23:15.22 | Adys | still not? |
| 23:15.23 | Adys | ugh |
| 23:15.29 | tlund | i use "shift-alt-<x>" for keybindings. |
| 23:15.35 | tlund | i am not "bad" |
| 23:16.02 | tlund | does the taintlog get rotated when you /reload or exit the client? |
| 23:16.14 | Adys | exit yes, reload no |
| 23:17.44 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/search.php?searchid=2062215 << meh |
| 23:17.59 | foxlit | ... and that's a dead link |
| 23:18.25 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/search.php?do=finduser&u=304585 |
| 23:19.02 | Adys | urgh at some reddit posts |
| 23:19.21 | Adys | "Relatives of china's prime ministers are getting a lot of money from their position in the govt" |
| 23:19.27 | Adys | "Oh I bet this doesn't just apply to china" |
| 23:19.46 | Adys | Water's seriously fucking wet in this part of the internet |
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| 23:21.50 | g0urra | <tlund> g0urra: that is not a good idea, since I push that by misstake inside wow, and suddenly, half my keybidings stop working |
| 23:21.53 | g0urra | fixed that for you |
| 23:22.48 | tlund | .. |
| 23:24.36 | Xuerian | Wow, got all grumpity in here briefly |
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| 23:43.11 | F16Gaming | i've always wondered what kind of method some games use to capture key presses |
| 23:43.21 | F16Gaming | pressing the key where ~ is located on US keyboards does not work |
| 23:43.27 | F16Gaming | pressing the actual ~ key does not work |
| 23:44.51 | F16Gaming | or if it's because ~ needs Shift + Alt to be pressed, and that makes it unable to be captured by WoW for whatever reason |
| 23:45.33 | tlund | on my keyboard ~ is a "dead" compose-key |
| 23:45.53 | tlund | so i actuelly have to push AltGr-<Button> and then Space to make a ~ |
| 23:46.15 | F16Gaming | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cf/Keyboard_Layout_Swedish.png |
| 23:46.25 | F16Gaming | tlund: i need to put a space after as well |
| 23:47.25 | F16Gaming | why did they have to make swedish layout so vastly different from the US one |
| 23:47.27 | Semlar | ~ is the shift of ` on my keyboard |
| 23:47.51 | Semlar | i'm assuming if i tried to bind it, it would be to shift+` |
| 23:48.06 | tlund | F16Gaming: I have no idea. i assume it happened 50+ years ago :) |
| 23:48.09 | tlund | on typewriters |
| 23:48.33 | F16Gaming | if only someone could make a global rule that english is the only allowed language and obliterate all non-english keyboards |
| 23:48.37 | F16Gaming | would make life simple |
| 23:48.49 | tlund | yeah |
| 23:48.57 | Semlar | well, qwerty isn't the only keyboard layout |
| 23:49.05 | F16Gaming | or provide us with bigger keyboards, with more keys to use |
| 23:49.25 | F16Gaming | qwerty itself has like two bazillion layouts depending on country/language |
| 23:49.48 | Kaylin | pretends utf-8 is a language. |
| 23:50.45 | Dagmar | I trust that you've seen the Mandarin "dinner plate" keyboard, then |
| 23:52.04 | Semlar | i know you can type mandarin with a standard keyboard |
| 23:54.21 | Semlar | basically you type the phonetic romanized version of the character and then you can tab through them |
| 23:56.33 | Semlar | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Dajia-shuo-Putonghua-2817.jpg like this |
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| 23:57.37 | Dagmar | Semlar: Yeah but that's got to be about as much fun as being condemned to use T9 everywhere |
| 23:58.05 | Semlar | if you mean like this thing http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4j0s5BiRN1qzo7wro1_1280.jpg i don't know how helpful that would be |
| 23:58.23 | Semlar | there are more than 3000 common characters you might use |
| 23:59.05 | Semlar | i've never seen one of these before |
| 23:59.20 | Xuerian | One would think this would be a good target for machine learning autocompletion |
| 23:59.55 | Semlar | it does guess at what you're trying to type but if it's wrong you can tab through the different characters for that word |
| 23:59.59 | Dagmar | That's the one |
