| 00:03.01 | TC-Work | I feel that if you call someone you dont know, and do not leave a message your phone should stab you |
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| 00:08.57 | Fisker | a |
| 00:09.09 | TC-Work | stab Fisker |
| 00:09.17 | TC-Work | stab's Fisker |
| 00:09.33 | Fisker | b |
| 00:12.41 | kd3 | bah. tank/heal are both CtA |
| 00:13.24 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 00:13.41 | kd3 | ...yes? |
| 00:13.54 | TC-Work | be warry kd3, be warry |
| 00:14.17 | mckenziemc | "stabs" TC-Work |
| 00:14.29 | Fisker | cant even hey a guy |
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| 00:14.58 | TC-Work | troll''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s mckenziemc |
| 00:15.01 | Rythal | must be new york... can't say hey without getting stabbed |
| 00:15.09 | TC-Work | sure you can Fisker |
| 00:15.13 | mckenziemc | oh ok |
| 00:16.47 | Fisker | Lol |
| 00:17.07 | Fisker | I am a beautiful person. The only thing that you can get a chance to win a free email u. I have en god dag. Jeg har haft meget travlt med at få en god dag. |
| 00:19.32 | Fisker | I think it was not the case, you are a number to the UK and I will have the opportunity for an interview for this post is not responsible. This email was scanned by any of these items is the most important part. The other day and the rest of my favourite, I think it would not hesitate. I have a great deal to you by your browser does the future of this page and then delete this email in the world people, the only thing you want. |
| 00:19.41 | Jamash | ohai bluspacecow http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6712952974?page=18#358 |
| 00:19.57 | Jamash | Fisker: looks like markov chain output |
| 00:22.23 | pompy | kd3: if you are watching, what a shit call |
| 00:22.27 | kd3 | yah |
| 00:22.32 | pompy | its udner protest |
| 00:22.39 | pompy | s/udner/under/ |
| 00:23.34 | Fisker | Why mad jamash? |
| 00:23.55 | Jamash | Fisker: It takes eighty-seven pancakes to shingle a dog. |
| 00:24.31 | TC-Work | one a brick of chocolate |
| 00:24.45 | TC-Work | s/one/or/ |
| 00:24.46 | Jamash | chocolate is poisonous to dogs |
| 00:24.56 | cbreak | so is poison |
| 00:25.08 | TC-Work | might make them poop first |
| 00:25.08 | Jamash | so is fisker |
| 00:39.21 | TC-Work | ...i was commenting some code and i wrote "I hate purl." >.< |
| 00:40.20 | pompy | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:56.55 | Esamynn|work | pompy: I dare you |
| 01:05.08 | cbreak | just delete the whole thing |
| 01:09.33 | Neffi | Uncomment it, then drop him an anonymous email about how you deleted it... 3 weeks later. |
| 01:10.05 | Neffi | Best if you mention that the commend was slowing the program down |
| 01:10.12 | Neffi | s/commend/comment/ |
| 01:10.14 | cbreak | code that is commented out deserves to be deleted |
| 01:10.20 | cbreak | because it's unmaintainable |
| 01:10.34 | cbreak | it's not compiler checked, it's not found by most analysis tools. Dead. |
| 01:10.49 | cbreak | and a stability/security hazzard should it ever become active again |
| 01:11.22 | Dagmar | How the crap is a comment slowing a program down? |
| 01:11.34 | Dagmar | Did someone put War & Peace in the comments for an interpreted language? |
| 01:12.06 | cbreak | it's not. |
| 01:12.32 | cbreak | at most it's slowing down compilation |
| 01:12.44 | cbreak | because the preprocessor has to read more data :) |
| 01:12.45 | Dagmar | ...by a really trivial amount |
| 01:13.22 | cbreak | or the programmer, because he has to do a ton of manual maintenance |
| 01:14.58 | Neffi | Well if he's gonna troll the developer, he should put some effort into it |
| 01:15.13 | Neffi | IF somebody on my team told me a comment was slowing down the program, I'd facepalm hard enough to hurt myself. |
| 01:15.30 | Dagmar | It should contain ASCII art consisting of slashes, octothorpes, and asterisks |
| 01:16.02 | cbreak | comments in bat files slow down the bat file. |
| 01:16.03 | Neffi | A true artist manipulates whitespace to make his code the ASCII art |
| 01:16.26 | Dagmar | That's because bat files are shit anyway |
| 01:16.54 | Neffi | yeah |
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| 01:17.15 | Neffi | I can't help but ask myself "this is what passes for a decent CLI as Microsoft" every time I use .bat |
| 01:17.23 | Esamynn|work | Dagmar: trivial would be an understatement :P |
| 01:17.25 | Neffi | s/as/at/ |
| 01:17.34 | Neffi | lol purl, fuck you |
| 01:17.45 | Esamynn|work | ~laugh Neffi |
| 01:17.45 | purl | ACTION laughs hysterically at Neffi...ow! laughing so hard, it can't breathe... gasp...gasp...gasp.... ..... ... |
| 01:17.55 | Dagmar | Esamynn: I know. I've put RFCs into code before and it only increased parsing time by 0.002 ms |
| 01:18.00 | Dagmar | ...on a slow machine. |
| 01:18.20 | Dagmar | It *was* a dick thing to do, but I got tired of removing dumb-ass things from that program |
| 01:18.25 | cbreak | it should never reach the parser |
| 01:18.33 | cbreak | the preprocessor will strip comments |
| 01:18.41 | Esamynn|work | anyways, yes, I also believe that commented out code is EVIL |
| 01:18.44 | Esamynn|work | and should be destroyed |
| 01:19.15 | Esamynn|work | with extreme prejudice |
| 01:19.28 | foxlit | http://cheezburger.com/4614346240 << I feel this needs significantly more upvotes, or whatever the equivalent karma currency is around those parts of the internet. |
| 01:25.12 | Neffi | Sometimes commented code serves to teach new programmers how NOT to do things |
| 01:25.34 | Neffi | Not all that improbably for a new guy to come along and get the crazy idea that "hey what if we did it this way?" |
| 01:28.36 | foxlit | what is this comment nonsense you're discussing? Klingon code needs no comments! |
| 01:28.43 | foxlit | Also, death by firing squad if anyone ever makes a mistake. |
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| 01:41.11 | mckenziemc | fires foxlit. |
| 01:50.17 | Wobin | Jamash: not precisely true, I believe. Certain amounts of chocolate are poisonous to dogs. Depends on size/breed etc |
| 01:50.49 | Wobin | So if a large dog scarfs down a few grams of chocolate, it's not necessarily the end of the world |
| 01:51.23 | Wobin | Just don't feed your terrier a 1kg block |
| 01:56.30 | Arrowmaster | specifically its the theobromine in the chocolate |
| 01:58.15 | Arrowmaster | and its found in high quantities in dark chocolate and small quantities in milk chocolate and white chocolate |
| 01:59.53 | Neffi | Anyone know of a good crash-course guide in MoP resto healing? |
| 02:00.01 | Neffi | resto druid that is |
| 02:00.17 | foxlit | your spellbook offers one. |
| 02:00.45 | Neffi | >-> |
| 02:02.01 | foxlit | I don't think much has changed. You could try the healing mushrooms, but they're situational. |
| 02:03.00 | Neffi | Never healed on my druid though |
| 02:03.06 | Neffi | Gonna give it a shot for the first time |
| 02:04.40 | foxlit | lifebloom, rejuv, nourish, regrowth, healing touch, swiftmend, wild growth. |
| 02:05.29 | foxlit | regrowth is "oh noes, someone I care deeply about is about to die!" |
| 02:06.37 | foxlit | stack lifebloom on tank; throw rejuv at people who could use a bit of health; throw in an occasional nourish/healing touch on tank to keep mastery up |
| 02:11.17 | Neffi | No idea what glyphs to choose |
| 02:11.25 | Neffi | But he's still 85. Guess I'll play around a bit. |
| 02:12.19 | nebula169_ | oh god damit, don't run the beta uninstaller if you have your interface and wtf folders symlinked ;[ |
| 02:14.10 | Neffi | "The respawn rate of Ghost Iron Ore has been reduced to the correct value." |
| 02:14.11 | Neffi | =( |
| 02:14.25 | Neffi | Guess no more farming 12 stacks an hour just while questing |
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| 02:28.14 | foxlit | lol, "correct value" |
| 02:28.25 | foxlit | they pulled the same stunt when Cataclysm was released. |
| 02:28.44 | foxlit | "oops, we totally didn't mean to spawn that many resource nodes, sorry guys!" |
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| 03:12.10 | Esamynn | lol |
| 03:13.45 | Arrowmaster | well this is a rather strange holiday http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_Conception |
| 03:17.28 | Wobin | I totally read that as another American wtf with birth control =P |
| 03:22.15 | Wobin | I find it terrible, even though I've been a raiding resto druid |
| 03:22.23 | Wobin | That I still get the spell names confused |
| 03:23.39 | Wobin | if anyone asks, it's just "Oh that healing spell is *makes vauge mouseclicking combo movements*" |
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| 03:59.57 | kd3 | what. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/10/your-tax-dollars-at-work-local-cops-now-paid-with-federal-money-to-troll-irc/ |
| 04:01.33 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: YOUR SECRET HAS BEEN REVIELED! |
| 04:03.21 | Arrowmaster | troll headline, irc wasnt mentioned anywhere in the article |
| 04:07.10 | kd3 | wow, that was quick: The cost to learn Battle Pet Training has been reduced from 100 gold to 10 gold. |
| 04:19.41 | Torhal | ... |
| 04:19.52 | Torhal | Like 100g is difficult to obtain these days. |
| 04:46.13 | karl_w_w | it is hard to obtain if it's your first toon that you're levelling |
| 04:46.37 | karl_w_w | and that was the whole point, they didnt want new players getting distracted by the sideshow |
| 04:46.39 | Wobin | Surely copper ore is still massively overpriced on the aH? |
| 04:52.30 | karl_w_w | " The time limit for Warsong Gulch has been reduced from 25 to 20 minutes." |
| 04:52.32 | karl_w_w | the fuck? |
| 04:52.40 | karl_w_w | wsg is already the shortest bg |
| 04:52.54 | karl_w_w | well, except for maybe bfg |
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| 04:58.02 | kd3 | grr |
| 04:58.06 | kd3 | now it's my modem acting up |
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| 04:59.05 | kd3 | this may have something to do with it... "output power upstream: -1 db" |
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| 05:06.38 | karl_w_w | did you broked it kd3? |
| 05:06.55 | kd3 | it's just getting old. I'm worried the magic smoke's going to leak out soon |
| 05:07.19 | karl_w_w | you're the guy with terrible terrible internet right? |
| 05:07.24 | kd3 | yes |
| 05:07.34 | karl_w_w | what modem do you have? |
| 05:07.49 | karl_w_w | because some will cope with poor lines much better than others |
| 05:08.21 | kd3 | the xyzel p990-el? something close to that. I don't want to go downstairs to look at it |
| 05:08.53 | kd3 | zyxel p660r, rather, says a cursory google result |
| 05:15.50 | Jamash | Arrowmaster: an "undercover co-located server," designed to "search popular Peer-2-Peer and Internet Relay Chat networks for the distribution of copyrighted software, movies and music from locations in and around the City of St. Louis." |
| 05:16.48 | Jamash | still not what the headline says, but IRC is mentioned |
| 05:16.49 | kd3 | oh, ick. bad memories: http://imgur.com/OXU23 |
| 05:16.58 | Jamash | molten core? |
| 05:17.06 | Jamash | uh |
| 05:20.43 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: dont forget to preload |
| 05:23.46 | karl_w_w | kd3: http://shopbec.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=54 this is what you want in your life :P |
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| 05:28.19 | kd3 | hm |
| 05:30.08 | Jamash | is there a direct way to make a secure action button cast a spell by global ID, or do I have to look up the name and set the "spell" attribute to the name? |
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| 05:30.48 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_w: I suspect kd3 just wants a faster damn connection and doesnt much care how it gets there. |
| 05:31.03 | kd3 | this is true too |
| 05:31.04 | karl_w_w | most likely :P |
| 05:31.45 | Torhal | Telekenisis. |
| 05:32.01 | Jamash | kinesis |
| 05:32.05 | Thunder_Child | hippos in tutu's |
| 05:32.12 | Thunder_Child | whatever works |
| 05:32.22 | Jamash | IPoPT? |
| 05:32.39 | Thunder_Child | or IPoTP |
| 05:32.53 | Jamash | (ip over paper tape) |
| 05:33.03 | karl_w_w | TCP/QS |
| 05:33.21 | Jamash | you hook up the paper tape writer on machine 1 to the reader on machine 2... |
| 05:33.22 | karl_w_w | (quantum singularity) |
| 05:33.54 | Thunder_Child | that might be TCP/SSQS |
| 05:34.03 | Semlar | sasquatches |
| 05:34.22 | Thunder_Child | (Synthetic Syncronized Quantum Singularity) |
| 05:34.41 | Semlar | SaSQuatcheS |
| 05:34.53 | karl_w_w | I'm going with Semlar on this one |
| 05:34.58 | Semlar | thank you |
| 05:35.25 | kd3 | welp, I'll take a look at the modem in the morning. it's 1:30. I have to get up for work in a bit |
| 05:35.39 | karl_w_w | everybody knows that sasquatches can be in multiple places at the same time |
| 05:36.06 | Semlar | how do you think they've managed to evade capture for so long |
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| 05:36.20 | Jamash | you're thinking of macavity |
| 05:40.58 | Thunder_Child | It's hard to capture something that doesn't exist |
| 05:45.20 | karl_w_w | heretic |
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| 06:24.38 | zenzelezz | blargh... been five days and still no word from my ISP on why I'm not getting the speed I'm supposed to |
| 06:33.40 | Jamash | god hates you? |
| 06:34.06 | Jamash | lint in the tubes? |
| 06:34.17 | Jamash | tired light? |
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| 06:46.47 | Esamynn | karl_w_w: I find people who use the word "heretic" to describe other people are generally deluded |
| 06:47.02 | Jamash | Esamynn: infidel! |
| 06:47.35 | Esamynn | Jamash: there is a whole region of the world who might agree with you on that |
| 06:48.24 | Esamynn | however... I don't see the problem |
| 06:48.34 | Jamash | I'm riffing |
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| 06:49.35 | Esamynn | what's this, you're a crazy person hanging out in IRC? |
| 06:49.38 | Esamynn | this isn't news |
| 06:50.25 | Jamash | or IS it |
| 06:51.31 | Esamynn | Jamash: also, to answer your earlier question about secure action buttons... yes |
| 06:51.58 | Jamash | q: 1 or 2? a: yes |
| 06:52.00 | Esamynn | the spell action will call CastSpellByID if the parameter is a number |
| 06:52.07 | Jamash | awesome |
| 06:52.10 | Esamynn | and CastSpellByName otherwise |
| 06:52.44 | Jamash | well that should simplify my action button code by an order of magnitude |
| 06:53.21 | Jamash | right now I'm tracking action ids which is stupid |
| 06:53.31 | Jamash | really, really stupid |
| 06:53.38 | Jamash | product of earlier laziness |
| 06:53.43 | Jamash | leading to more work later |
| 06:54.03 | Esamynn | dunno if CastSpellByID works with override spells though |
| 06:54.20 | Jamash | yeah that's on my list to investigate |
| 06:54.26 | Esamynn | I just can't recall if it behaves like ByName in that regard |
| 06:54.31 | Jamash | spells are much more complicated than they used to be |
| 06:54.42 | Esamynn | you're telling me? |
| 06:54.48 | Jamash | I dunno, am I? |
| 06:54.54 | Esamynn | the last time I worked with a spell casting addon was in Vanilla! |
| 06:55.05 | karl_w_w | Esamynn: heretic! |
| 06:55.15 | Jamash | karl_w_w: apostate! |
| 06:55.21 | Esamynn | ~cheeseslap karl_w_w |
| 06:55.21 | purl | ACTION slaps karl_w_w around with a slice of texas goat cheese |
| 06:55.50 | Jamash | I had this "brilliant" idea of stealing code from blizzard's spellbook |
| 06:55.57 | Jamash | which has lead to more work than I saved |
| 06:56.05 | Esamynn | Jamash: I wouldn't even attempt a spell casting addon today... the world map system drives me crazy enough as it is |
| 06:56.10 | Jamash | oh it's not |
| 06:56.35 | Jamash | it's a spells learned tracking addon, which involves creating secure action buttons so that spells can be dragged off 'em |
| 06:56.42 | Esamynn | Jamash: that was a stupid idea... seriously, why did you think that was a good idea? |
| 06:56.49 | Jamash | I was young and foolish |
| 06:57.05 | Jamash | don't ask me mang |
| 06:57.10 | Esamynn | also, close enough |
| 06:57.25 | Esamynn | (to a spell casting addon) |
| 06:57.38 | Jamash | yeah you can click on the buttons to cast the spells, it's just not the primary function |
| 06:58.18 | Esamynn | I had my own healing addon, back before the 2.0 lockdown |
| 06:58.49 | Esamynn | kept intending to update it for 2.0... never did |
| 06:59.16 | Jamash | I might be better off using names tbh, it acts funny when spells change id |
| 06:59.18 | karl_w_w | best thing about learning aid is you can use it to test mounts you just learnt |
| 06:59.29 | Jamash | like learning a new rank of a tradeskill |
| 06:59.31 | Jamash | yeah uh |
| 06:59.33 | Jamash | about that |
| 06:59.47 | Jamash | I'm not supporting companions or mounts anymore >.> |
| 06:59.56 | karl_w_w | kills Jamash with death |
| 07:00.05 | Esamynn | I was gonna say, nothing good ever follows those words |
| 07:00.23 | Jamash | it never, ever worked right and the new pet journal is a nightmare on wheels |
| 07:00.23 | Esamynn | ~frag karl_w_w |
| 07:00.23 | purl | ACTION readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at karl_w_w |
| 07:00.51 | Esamynn | Jamash: it's pokemon, nuff said |
| 07:01.00 | Jamash | I might be persuaded to re-add mount but not companion support at a later date |
| 07:01.15 | Jamash | I admit that it's a great feature, and I use it for the same thing |
| 07:01.23 | Jamash | it's just been too much of a headache |
| 07:01.30 | Esamynn | oh come now, they're the same API, how bad could it be? *weg* |
| 07:05.24 | Esamynn | oh come on, that joke wasn't *that* bad! |
| 07:06.34 | Jamash | yes it was |
| 07:06.43 | Esamynn | :P |
| 07:07.03 | Esamynn | okay, yes it was |
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| 07:07.47 | Jamash | I have pre-emptive PTSD from an alternate future in which I implemented battle pet support |
| 07:07.57 | Jamash | it's that bad |
| 07:08.09 | neutronimity | PTSD? |
| 07:08.17 | karl_w_w | post traumatic stress disorder |
| 07:08.24 | neutronimity | Ouch. |
| 07:08.32 | Esamynn | Jamash: pfft, go learn the ins and outs of the world map system |
| 07:08.36 | Esamynn | then come talk to me :P |
| 07:08.41 | Esamynn | n00b |
| 07:08.58 | Jamash | I can't hear youuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 07:09.01 | Jamash | la la la |
| 07:09.52 | karl_w_w | Jamash go get my phone from my room please |
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| 07:10.20 | Jamash | ring ring ring ring ring ring ring |
| 07:10.24 | Jamash | bananaphone |
| 07:10.31 | Jamash | doop doop dee doodle doo |
| 07:10.44 | Esamynn | Jamash: I rest my case |
| 07:10.49 | karl_w_w | dont talk about bananas I have a complex over them atm |
| 07:11.10 | karl_w_w | people keep talking about atomic bananas and i feel like ive missed something |
| 07:11.15 | Jamash | ba(na){2,} |
| 07:11.36 | Esamynn | karl_w_w: Banana Bomb! =D |
| 07:11.55 | Esamynn | resists the urge to play Worms Armageddon |
| 07:12.01 | starlon | tanking brewfest boss in dps gear and a killer shield. when it's done the healer spits on me. :/ |
| 07:12.23 | Esamynn | starlon: good riddance |
| 07:12.28 | starlon | :) |
| 07:12.30 | Esamynn | ~lart starlon |
| 07:12.30 | purl | cuts off starlon's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper |
| 07:12.37 | starlon | lol |
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| 07:13.02 | starlon | 20 minute queues suck. |
| 07:13.06 | karl_w_w | i seriously need to clean my keyboard |
| 07:13.13 | karl_w_w | starlon: queues? |
| 07:13.24 | Esamynn | good night |
| 07:13.27 | starlon | ugh I can't type right now |
| 07:13.36 | Jamash | login or dps queues? |
| 07:13.41 | starlon | dps queue |
| 07:13.51 | Jamash | my realm has a login queue |
| 07:13.55 | starlon | ouch |
| 07:13.57 | Jamash | yo dawg |
| 07:13.58 | karl_w_w | my realm login queue is several hours |
| 07:14.13 | starlon | My realm used to have login queues. I don't know what happened. |
| 07:14.35 | karl_w_w | they increased realm capacities just before cata |
| 07:14.40 | starlon | Ah |
| 07:15.00 | karl_w_w | but my realm's queue still reaches 3k |
| 07:15.07 | starlon | hehe |
| 07:15.08 | starlon | ouch |
| 07:15.44 | karl_w_w | http://www.wowprogress.com/realms/rank/us and it's the only one with a queue right now |
| 07:17.00 | karl_w_w | I can only imagine they must use bots to have that much information available |
| 07:17.30 | nevcairiel | its all information available on the website |
| 07:18.15 | karl_w_w | ah yes i see the queue info |
| 07:18.21 | karl_w_w | where's the TB stuff? |
| 07:18.43 | Jamash | ok I'm severing SpellButtonTemplate, wish me luck |
| 07:18.59 | karl_w_w | severs Jamash |
| 07:19.14 | Jamash | oh look it broke, what a shocker |
| 07:19.37 | neutronimity | What are your favorite cooldown/buff trackers? |
| 07:19.44 | karl_w_w | severance usually does leave you broke |
| 07:19.52 | karl_w_w | neutronimity: needtoknow |
| 07:20.05 | neutronimity | Aah - trying to wrangle with it right now. |
| 07:20.26 | neutronimity | Getting pretty frustrated that I have to put settings per character, per spec, per bar |
| 07:20.48 | karl_w_w | how else would i know? :P |
| 07:20.55 | neutronimity | :< |
| 07:20.55 | karl_w_w | and doesnt it use profiles? |
| 07:21.06 | karl_w_w | s/ i / it / |
| 07:21.54 | Jamash | inline aura |
| 07:22.02 | neutronimity | Well, I made a new profile -- while being in another character's profile (which I had switched to), expecting that one to be duplicated |
| 07:22.04 | Jamash | it's really all you ever need |
| 07:22.19 | neutronimity | Instead it duplicated the current character and current spec |
| 07:22.35 | neutronimity | Feeling lots of ermm right now |
| 07:22.45 | Jamash | inline aura *might* be the single best addon |
| 07:22.53 | neutronimity | It looks really good but .. not very .. |
| 07:22.59 | neutronimity | I'll check it out, thanks Jamash |
| 07:23.21 | karl_w_w | inline aura looks pants |
| 07:24.01 | Jamash | it's incredibly useful |
| 07:24.02 | neutronimity | Aaw - not that sort I kind of would have liked |
| 07:24.12 | Jamash | I can't imagine playing a warlock without it these days |
| 07:26.02 | Jamash | or a healer |
| 07:27.26 | karl_w_w | having no imagination doesnt make it a good addon |
| 07:35.48 | neutronimity | I think my druid's profile is gone and lost during duplication. |
| 07:36.09 | neutronimity | I deleted the profile that I called Tank |
| 07:41.10 | neutronimity | Why do authors mostly prefer per-character settings instead of per-profile settins? And also - uhm .. configure everything from scratch .. |
| 07:41.17 | neutronimity | looks at TidyPlates. |
| 07:41.33 | neutronimity | settings* |
| 07:42.24 | neutronimity | I often wish for the ability to make a new profile without having to start from scratch |
| 07:48.42 | nevcairiel | you mean, copy? |
| 07:48.47 | nevcairiel | if its ace3 profiles, it can do that =p |
| 07:49.05 | nevcairiel | just create a new one, then copy the old one into that |
| 07:50.11 | starlon | how do you turn the UI back on? I hid mine some how. |
| 07:50.51 | starlon | alt v |
| 07:51.52 | neutronimity | alt+z |
| 07:52.12 | neutronimity | didn't think of that nevcairiel, thanks |
| 07:52.30 | starlon | ah yes, alt-z |
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| 08:07.23 | Jamash | is there a straightforward way to convert a global spell id into a spellbook id? |
| 08:08.27 | Jamash | found it, FindSpellBookSlotBySpellID |
| 08:16.05 | starlon | I can't imagine Sha of Anger on PVP realms. :/ |
| 08:16.26 | starlon | Then again we have idiots who flag just to lol a bit. |
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| 09:16.45 | AcidWeb | Steam keys - No idea which are still working: |
| 09:16.48 | AcidWeb | http://pastebin.com/TKa2Cpar |
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| 10:07.30 | karl_w_w | i've never known of a website that's down as much as pastebin is |
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| 10:16.28 | Humbedooh | then stop using it? ;> |
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| 10:34.04 | nevcairiel | there is probably hundreds of pastebin websites |
| 10:34.06 | nevcairiel | just use another one |
| 10:35.00 | haste | best one was lodge it, but they took it down :( |
| 10:37.05 | karl_w_w | it's hard to not use pastebin when the thing you're trying to look at is on pastebin |
| 10:38.20 | Humbedooh | then tell your friends not to use it ;o |
| 10:38.25 | Humbedooh | spread zeh wørd! |
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| 10:49.32 | Humbedooh | blames rtharper |
| 10:49.43 | rtharper | what have I done? |
| 10:49.51 | Humbedooh | well what haven't you done?! |
| 10:50.00 | rtharper | enough |
| 10:50.08 | Humbedooh | exactly! |
| 10:50.30 | Humbedooh | you see how my logic is infallible |
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| 10:52.34 | rtharper | indeed... |
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| 12:16.26 | karl_w_w | whats that big island off the north west of pandaria? |
| 12:16.50 | Humbedooh | Malmö |
| 12:19.58 | Yoshimo | daylies i think happen there |
| 12:21.19 | nevcairiel | most likely for new content |
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| 12:42.49 | foxlit | golden lotus daily design is just so... urgh. |
| 12:50.21 | karl_w_w | wtf some random mob aggrod me and cancelled my pet battle |
| 13:02.02 | haste | sounds like one can have fun with Sap again :3 |
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| 13:54.06 | Vladinator | why is my EditBox blank but GetText returns the value? :/ |
| 13:54.31 | Humbedooh | because no |
| 13:55.22 | starlon | tells Humbedooh no-yes. |
| 13:55.35 | Humbedooh | slams starlon with a maybe |
| 13:55.40 | starlon | :/ |
| 13:55.46 | Humbedooh | ye, I'm that bad :( |
| 13:56.27 | Amarande | because "" and nil are two different things in Lua? |
| 13:57.21 | Vladinator | it has the value of "900" |
| 13:57.34 | Vladinator | it's not nil or a string, GetText returns the proper value but visually it's empty :P |
| 13:59.34 | Fisker | haste |
| 13:59.52 | Fisker | you cannot unhaste once hasted |
| 14:01.22 | Amarande | wow. first scarlet archmage of the day drops the crusader enchant |
| 14:01.23 | Vladinator | aah I figured it out, the box is simply "scrolled" lol |
| 14:01.25 | Amarande | I should buy a lotto ticket today |
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| 14:06.38 | Amarande | hrm. is crusader still the go-to enchant for heirlooms? |
| 14:07.53 | karl_w_w | if ur alt tabbed when u win a pet battle you dont get any of the credir |
| 14:07.55 | karl_w_w | credit |
| 14:08.00 | karl_w_w | nice system blizzard |
| 14:08.10 | bluspacecow | u mad ? |
| 14:08.18 | nevcairiel | how do you win a pet battle when you're alt tabbed anyway? |
| 14:08.20 | Wobin | it's clearly your fault for not paying attention |
| 14:09.51 | karl_w_w | nevcairiel: choose action -> alt tab |
| 14:10.19 | nevcairiel | pay attention then! |
| 14:10.30 | nevcairiel | if there is no-one there to see that you won, who is to say that you did win? :) |
| 14:11.18 | karl_w_w | well the battle ended and my pets arent dead :P |
| 14:11.31 | starlon | Fisker /cancelaura haste |
| 14:11.40 | nevcairiel | maybe the forfeited because their master went away? |
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| 14:15.19 | karl_w_w | forfeits nevcairiel |
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| 14:28.28 | Vladinator | why couldn't they make the skybox equal in height for all of pandaria? |
| 14:28.49 | Vladinator | flying from the kunlai mountain to jade forest, I hear my mount moaning and making sounds because I hit the ceiling ... |
| 14:29.27 | Vladinator | just so annoying when I wish to autofly forward toward some place and I have to tab in to fix the path because of invisible ceiling. |
| 14:29.29 | Dagmar | You're TOO HIGH man. I'm gonna have to ask you to settle down |
| 14:29.53 | Vladinator | I'd assume they'd fix it for their new continent, but obviously they didn't care :P |
| 14:29.56 | Amarande | Vlad: if you fly higher than that, your mount's wings start to melt off & then you'll plummet |
| 14:30.00 | Vladinator | :P |
| 14:30.15 | Amarande | BTW, are cloud serpents the only flying mounts you can use in Pandaria, or are they more like the new Netherwing? |
| 14:30.39 | Amarande | I'm noting my spellbook has an entry for "ride cloud serpent" or some such. |
| 14:33.27 | Adys | a friend's looking for a good laptop in the $500 range |
| 14:33.30 | Adys | any advice? |
| 14:33.46 | Amarande | Adys: "pick any two" |
| 14:34.08 | Adys | he wants good ram and cpu, doesnt care much about the rest |
| 14:34.19 | Adys | no intel gfx chipset |
| 14:34.21 | karl_w_w | Adys: get better friends |
| 14:34.42 | karl_w_w | by which i mean, it's not going to happen :P |
| 14:34.53 | Amarande | yeah, like I said, pick any two |
| 14:34.55 | Adys | good means good for the price, obviously |
| 14:35.01 | Amarande | good laptop, good $500, or laptop $500 :) |
| 14:35.33 | Adys | not limited to $500 |
| 14:35.46 | Adys | $700 apparently |
| 14:35.50 | Adys | any better advice? |
| 14:36.09 | Adys | also this isnt necessarily new |
| 14:36.24 | karl_w_w | <Adys> any better advice? <- avoid acer like the plague |
| 14:36.46 | Amarande | well, on the good side at least he can't afford to consider macs. :) |
| 14:36.55 | Amarande | you know what made me ROFL a couple weeks ago |
| 14:37.07 | Adys | no, why don't you tell us *all* about it |
| 14:37.17 | Adys | by which I mean every little detail. |
| 14:37.21 | Amarande | I read this forum post ... this guy tried to hook up his iphone to his macbook and the macbook said "sorry, the iphone draws too much power, it's been disabled" |
| 14:37.32 | Vladinator | Amarande: the serpent mounts are basically netherwing v2 |
| 14:37.35 | Amarande | makes me pretty glad I don't use apple :P |
| 14:37.39 | Adys | And then the iphone said |
| 14:37.53 | Adys | "Hey, your MOM draws that much power!" |
| 14:38.11 | Amarande | Adys: the thing being, this is from apple, the company that's always touting how well all its stuff works together like a happy iFamily |
| 14:38.25 | Amarande | ... yet their own computer rejected their own phone |
| 14:39.32 | Adys | Vladinator: are there netherwind egg equivalents? |
| 14:39.39 | Adys | because i sure as hell didnt find any |
| 14:39.40 | Vladinator | yes, onyx eggs |
| 14:39.47 | Adys | seriously? |
| 14:40.03 | Adys | that explains a lot |
| 14:44.00 | karl_w_w | Adys http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834246491 seems like it has potential |
| 14:44.31 | karl_w_w | you wont find much under $600 with dedicated graphics |
| 14:44.53 | Vladinator | got in a group that does not speak at all |
| 14:44.55 | Vladinator | lol... |
| 14:45.04 | Adys | thanks karl_w_w |
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| 14:48.29 | Vladinator | you know your LFD group is weird when no one talks and healer has full mana when someone dies :P |
| 14:48.46 | Vladinator | wonder if it's a chat issue like a bug, or if they simply can't speak english :D |
| 14:48.50 | Vladinator | ah nvm he said "go" when I didn't go :P |
| 14:49.15 | karl_w_w | maybe somebody died because they stood in the wrong place |
| 14:49.36 | karl_w_w | and in my experience the weird LFD groups are the ones where someone talks |
| 14:53.10 | Vladinator | lol |
| 14:53.21 | Vladinator | so it's normal that when you ask them something they don't reply? |
| 14:53.35 | Arrowmaster | karl_w_w: "Pros: Great graphics card can play most games plays minecraft on 100 fps at times its insane haven't tried any others yet! Moves extremely fast and is just beautiful overall. and for the price you just cant beat it." |
| 14:53.37 | Arrowmaster | ......... |
| 14:53.55 | Arrowmaster | so now fps in minecraft is a benchmark? |
| 14:57.11 | Vladinator | it can be.. |
| 14:58.23 | Arrowmaster | would make more sense as a cpu benchmark than a gpu benchmark, because java is terrible |
| 14:59.29 | Vladinator | but it still lets the gpu handle the drawing right? |
| 14:59.32 | AcidWeb | If you play with modified shaders it can be used as poor prosthesis of gpu bench ;p |
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| 15:31.16 | karl_w_w | <Vladinator> so it's normal that when you ask them something they don't reply? <- depends on the question |
| 15:32.03 | Vladinator | I said like "hey" and "need mb?" or "want to do X?" and no one ever said anything :P |
| 15:32.16 | Vladinator | only one word was uttered, when I was standing still for a moment one guy said "go" :P |
| 15:33.38 | Vladinator | karl_w_w: can you help me for a moment? |
| 15:33.43 | Vladinator | take a look at http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/battlepettabs/tickets/2-fix-tab-saving/ |
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| 15:35.04 | Vladinator | he reports that settings are not saved for my addon, but when I try it it works just fine >.< |
| 15:38.26 | Vladinator | :'( |
| 15:38.29 | nevcairiel | that problem comes up for every addon, some people just have it installed in program files or something and the directory is not writable |
| 15:40.41 | Vladinator | yeah that is what I was writing now |
| 15:40.53 | Vladinator | if he only uses my addon alone and this issue is happening then its an installation thing |
| 15:41.03 | Vladinator | but is it normal that the addon is loaded but the saved variables don't load right? :/ |
| 15:41.14 | Vladinator | I thought if you had this issue nevcairiel, that you wouldn't see the addon either. |
| 15:41.29 | nevcairiel | its not loading thats broken, its saving :P |
| 15:42.21 | Vladinator | could you try it yourself? :/ |
| 15:42.30 | nevcairiel | no |
| 15:42.33 | Vladinator | :( |
| 15:42.51 | Vladinator | for me it works fine, so how the heck can I help him out if it won't properly load/save settings on his machine? lol |
| 15:42.59 | Vladinator | atm not sure if it's an real issue or if it's me, or him, e.g. |
| 15:43.13 | nevcairiel | "Works for me" is a valid way to close a ticket :P |
| 15:43.32 | Vladinator | but you don't find it bizarre? |
| 15:43.42 | nevcairiel | no |
| 15:43.49 | nevcairiel | people have f'ed up systems all the time |
| 15:44.29 | Maldivia | setings not saving is 99% of the time a pebkac |
| 15:45.35 | Vladinator | I just don't understand, because once the game loads your addon, it should handle settings loading and saving no mater the OS. |
| 15:45.51 | Vladinator | only difference is when addons folder is different and such, savedvariables should act the same on any game client. |
| 15:46.09 | Arrowmaster | you are waiting for ADDON_LOADED right? |
| 15:46.41 | Arrowmaster | are you checking to make sure its being called for your addon? |
| 15:46.45 | nevcairiel | Vladinator: if the game cant write to the savedvariables folder, it just wont save |
| 15:46.50 | nevcairiel | however, it still loads just fine |
| 15:47.21 | Arrowmaster | some cases involving extremely large saved variable tables can run into issues |
| 15:47.28 | Vladinator | yes I wait for ADDON_LOADED |
| 15:48.08 | Vladinator | but still, settings load for me, not for him, weird :P |
| 15:48.22 | Vladinator | the table isn't big at all either |
| 15:48.27 | Maldivia | Vladinator: if on his machine the SavedVariables folder is read-only, then settings won't be saved |
| 15:48.45 | Maldivia | (and the game will just silently ignore that) |
| 15:48.47 | Vladinator | I am asking him to check himself, atm need to know if it's only my addon or all addons :P |
| 15:48.58 | Arrowmaster | if you arent checking to make sure ADDON_LOADED is being called for your addon and you use LoadAddOn() somewhere it can cause that kinda problem |
| 15:49.01 | Vladinator | if it happens for all addons then it's not an issue with my coding so that helps me :p |
| 15:49.09 | Vladinator | my addon is LOD |
| 15:49.15 | Vladinator | it loads when blizzard pet journal loads |
| 15:49.40 | Vladinator | then it checks when its own code is loaded and starts doing stuff, but it never sets the saved variable table to a value (unless it is nil, if it's a table it keeps that) |
| 15:50.54 | Arrowmaster | make a dummy addon (toc only) with a name starting with A that isnt LoD and requires the pet journal so it makes it load at login |
| 15:51.02 | Arrowmaster | see if that has any effect for you |
| 15:51.10 | Vladinator | for him you mean, for me it works fine :P |
| 15:51.14 | Arrowmaster | for you |
| 15:51.34 | Vladinator | so how would this help the guy? :3 |
| 15:52.01 | Arrowmaster | once spent 2 days debugging a savedvariable library (LibRock) looking for a bug that was really caused by an LoD addon interaction |
| 15:52.11 | Vladinator | hmm |
| 15:52.54 | Arrowmaster | im just suggesting you make sure you are testing different situations on your end that are possible for end users |
| 15:53.04 | Vladinator | I will test |
| 15:53.53 | Arrowmaster | the two big situations when you are loading when a blizzard LoD addon loads are that the blizzard addon is loaded after the game is loaded and that the blizzard addon is forced to load on startup due to another addon depending on it |
| 15:55.06 | Arrowmaster | and if you manage to debug this without the guy basically either sending you his entire addon folder or giving you remote access to his computer you will feel like a genious |
| 15:58.27 | Vladinator | I now test with the addon loading at login, and waiting for the PetJournal to load :P |
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| 16:03.07 | Vladinator | weird thing is I don't think it maters, since the flow of loading is, the toc is LOD and waits for Blizzard_PetJournal, when it is laoded my addon starts to load, in my code I wait for ADDON_LOADED to be fired so I know when my own code and variables are loaded, before I start to do stuff. |
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| 16:08.39 | Vladinator | worked fine this way too, Arrowmaster |
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| 16:11.38 | Vladinator | not sure then, hehe. |
| 16:23.02 | Vladinator | thanks Arrowmaster for trying :) |
| 16:27.18 | Vladinator | nevcairiel: gathermate2 issue |
| 16:27.24 | Vladinator | since 2011, wanna fix it? :3 |
| 16:31.10 | Vladinator | thing is "show with digsite" option is broken because the GetMapLandmarkInfo does not return digsites anymore :P |
| 16:32.53 | Vladinator | I write to you nevcairiel because it said you were ticket manager for GM2 :3 |
| 16:35.14 | Vladinator | they now use: for i = 1, ArchaeologyMapUpdateAll() do blobID = ArcheologyGetVisibleBlobID(i) end |
| 16:35.28 | Vladinator | seems to be a issue because the blobID isn't easily mapped to a map position :/ |
| 16:35.57 | Vladinator | they use the WorldMapArchaeologyDigSites (a "ArchaeologyDigSiteFrame" object) to call DrawNone() and DrawBlob(blobID, true) and such |
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| 16:42.05 | Vladinator | blobID all it returns is the continent, mapid and areaid |
| 16:42.29 | Vladinator | one could use it to only show digsites on a specific active area but not down to the specific site, hmm. |
| 16:43.53 | Ackis | I need more level 90 horde folk to log in/add me to battle tag so they can invite me to their group so I can check to see if a rare spawn is up on their server :D |
| 16:45.37 | Vladinator | :P |
| 17:11.57 | Gnarfoz | p3lim: monomyth sells quest start items that you buy vendors right back to the vendor ;D |
| 17:12.14 | Gnarfoz | *buy from vendors |
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| 17:32.44 | jnwhiteh | Mikk: Someone told me last night about a website that you can use to compare the major mobile telcom operators plans/coverage. |
| 17:32.51 | jnwhiteh | Any idea what it might have been? |
| 17:33.28 | jnwhiteh | pts.se it looks like =) |
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| 18:17.05 | cogwheel | fisker jelly |
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| 18:41.01 | Fisker | no jelly cogwheel |
| 18:41.03 | Fisker | ujelly though |
| 18:41.05 | Fisker | like jnwhiteh |
| 18:41.33 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 18:43.00 | cogwheel | i got a galaxy s3 yesterday. the pentile matrix was developed in one of my home towns. |
| 18:43.13 | karl_w_w | i wanna watch a good post-apocalyptic movie |
| 18:43.17 | karl_w_w | any suggestions? |
| 18:44.16 | Kalroth | isn't there a campaign movie showing Romney as the winner? |
| 18:44.29 | karl_w_w | haha |
| 18:44.33 | Dagmar | Ponty Pool |
| 18:44.54 | Dagmar | Not quite post-apocalyptic, more like "middle of nowhere Canada" but it comes close |
| 18:45.23 | Kalroth | karl_w_w, but Mad Max triology is good! |
| 18:45.26 | Fisker | ok cogwheel |
| 18:45.27 | Dagmar | Viral armageddon with an unusual carrier |
| 18:45.29 | Fisker | why jelly? |
| 18:45.32 | Ressy | Any way to disable the Blizzard raid frames completely? |
| 18:45.46 | nevcairiel | probably |
| 18:45.58 | Kalroth | karl_w_w, also Chernobyl Diaries is supposed to be good |
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| 18:46.35 | Ressy | despite not using Blizzard raid frames, its complaining about something. |
| 18:46.48 | Ressy | The Blizzard raid frame profiles. |
| 18:48.42 | karl_w_w | pretty sure it taints like a motherfucker if you hide the slidey drawer |
| 18:49.02 | foxlit | Only if you hide it like a complete buffoon. |
| 18:51.01 | karl_w_w | i heard chernobyl diaries is terrible |
| 18:51.10 | karl_w_w | wikipedia told me so |
| 18:51.32 | Fisker | a what foxlit ? |
| 18:51.39 | foxlit | a Fisker, Fisker. |
| 18:58.34 | nevcairiel | you could go the aggressive route and basically kill everything from the raid frames completely |
| 18:59.07 | nevcairiel | needs some research what and where to kill, though |
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| 19:03.16 | Gnarfoz | nil out ALL the frames |
| 19:03.34 | nevcairiel | have to be more careful then that |
| 19:03.35 | Gnarfoz | bottom line: blizzard's UI is horribly broken in 5.0, make a complaint |
| 19:04.41 | foxlit | that's a nice non-sequitur you have there. |
| 19:05.53 | foxlit | Wowhead's interactive maps are weird. I keep trying to pan to an adjacent zone, but no, there's only empty parchment. |
| 19:14.52 | foxlit | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=132624 << wonder why they're reusing the shattrath icon :/ |
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| 19:19.54 | KarlKFI | Flying Saucers are real! http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/10/the-airforce/ |
| 19:22.27 | KarlKFI | heh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Canada_VZ-9_Avrocar |
| 19:25.52 | KarlKFI | ugh, cc reported as leaked, sending new #... now i have to go figure out all the places it's being auto-charged |
| 19:30.15 | Mr_Rabies | hmmm |
| 19:31.06 | Mr_Rabies | leaked, KarlKFI? |
| 19:31.53 | KarlKFI | apparently visa found it in some list online |
| 19:31.54 | Kalroth | stolen/abused |
| 19:32.48 | Mr_Rabies | someone cloned my card twice in two months |
| 19:33.09 | Mr_Rabies | tried to use it in a wal-mart in vegas first |
| 19:33.20 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 19:33.22 | Mr_Rabies | did use it |
| 19:33.41 | Mr_Rabies | disputed that $300ish charge, got a new card from bank |
| 19:33.52 | Mr_Rabies | less than a month later, $200 in a meijer in chicago |
| 19:34.19 | Mr_Rabies | someone in town has a compromised reader of some sort |
| 19:34.28 | Mr_Rabies | i use cash for everything in person now |
| 19:34.46 | Mr_Rabies | it sucks :( |
| 19:39.08 | Mr_Rabies | oh yeah, i was gonna ask, can i macro hiding the ui, hiding names, and taking a screenshot or are one or many of those blocked from being bindable :( |
| 19:40.32 | nevcairiel | should be possible |
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| 19:57.17 | znf | So, anyone has any idea how many battle pets are there? |
| 19:57.43 | Adys | 500 ish |
| 19:57.51 | Adys | wait, less |
| 19:57.55 | znf | ah, there we go |
| 19:58.03 | znf | 187 collected and 283 not collected |
| 19:58.10 | znf | and I haven't even started a single pet battle yet :( |
| 19:59.18 | End_ | last I checked there are 491 |
| 19:59.37 | Adys | its possible znf is not counting non-battle pets |
| 19:59.37 | End_ | that includes everything though |
| 20:00.00 | End_ | likely |
| 20:00.02 | znf | End_, where did you check? |
| 20:00.13 | znf | or, how? |
| 20:00.14 | End_ | just the number of species that the pet journal lists |
| 20:00.45 | End_ | hm I'm getting 499 now |
| 20:00.54 | znf | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/kazzak/Znufflessd/pet#status=not-collected&quality=4 |
| 20:00.56 | End_ | but I guess some weren't showing up before |
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| 20:01.07 | Adys | End_: you're probably counting duplicate pets too then |
| 20:01.08 | End_ | no |
| 20:01.23 | End_ | I'm counting by species id |
| 20:01.36 | znf | well, my question is - will we be able to actually "catch them all"? |
| 20:01.45 | znf | 'cose last time I checked we had a 500 pets limit |
| 20:01.57 | End_ | right now...it looks like yes with no duplicates |
| 20:02.15 | End_ | although it's possible the pet journal isn't listing some species still I dunno |
| 20:02.56 | nevcairiel | that also assumes you already have all event pets, collector editions, blizzcon pets, etc etc |
| 20:02.59 | End_ | also, some of those species are from things like collector's editions |
| 20:03.01 | End_ | yeah |
| 20:03.15 | nevcairiel | there are also some china-only pets which you cant get |
| 20:03.22 | End_ | and it even lists those |
| 20:03.31 | End_ | like the zipao tiger |
| 20:05.06 | Adys | you can cage them |
| 20:05.09 | Adys | so it doesnt matter |
| 20:05.19 | End_ | some like the tcg can be |
| 20:05.27 | znf | some pets can't be caged :P |
| 20:05.27 | End_ | others like collector's edition can't |
| 20:05.29 | nevcairiel | collectors edition you cant |
| 20:05.42 | Adys | yes znf but it still doesnt matter |
| 20:05.47 | Adys | you can cage something like 400 pets |
| 20:05.54 | nevcairiel | store them in the bank, yea |
| 20:05.57 | Adys | yeah |
| 20:05.58 | znf | I'm not that rich in bag slots :D |
| 20:06.04 | Adys | I am, bitch. |
| 20:06.08 | znf | my guild banks are full >_< |
| 20:06.10 | Adys | just mail them to a mule |
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| 20:06.57 | End_ | hm |
| 20:07.59 | znf | man, I hate how flasks work this expansion :-/ |
| 20:08.20 | nevcairiel | they work like in classic, stop yar bitching |
| 20:08.25 | znf | nevcairiel, no they don't |
| 20:08.34 | znf | oh wait, classic? |
| 20:08.37 | znf | did they work like BC?/ |
| 20:08.58 | nevcairiel | classic had real lotus spawns, BC already had the lotus drop in other plants, iirc |
| 20:08.59 | znf | HA! They didn't |
| 20:09.10 | znf | yeah, but classic had 2x flasks for 1 lotus :P |
| 20:09.25 | nevcairiel | no, they just changed that when they revised flasks later |
| 20:09.32 | nevcairiel | during classic it was 1 |
| 20:09.51 | nevcairiel | AND, you actually had to go into scholomance to make them, because there was the alchemy table :P |
| 20:09.52 | znf | nevcairiel, then it was a 2H flask? |
| 20:10.24 | znf | as I recall, they changed it in 3.2 or 3.3 to half the duration but increase the count of flasks made |
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| 20:10.39 | znf | (though I didn't know it applied to older flasks, too) |
| 20:10.51 | End_ | I think that was part way through TBC they changed the duration and creation count |
| 20:10.52 | nevcairiel | they changed that for all flasks |
| 20:11.04 | znf | so wtb 2x flasks now, or 2 hour duration... |
| 20:11.23 | nevcairiel | stop being cheap and lazuy |
| 20:11.24 | nevcairiel | -u |
| 20:11.32 | znf | I've farmed almost 12 hours yesterday |
| 20:11.41 | znf | wanna know how many lotuses I got? |
| 20:11.47 | nevcairiel | farm motes, buy lotus :p |
| 20:11.59 | znf | _12_ seriously, _12_ lotuses in 12 hours, that's retarded >_< |
| 20:12.15 | znf | dunno where to put all this silkweed I got |
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| 20:18.36 | durcyn | songbell seeds 4 lyfe |
| 20:23.38 | Fisker | Guardian of Ancient Kings best Guardian EU |
| 20:24.01 | Fisker | can you ever get those as the "daily" plant? |
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| 20:27.25 | Ressy | no |
| 20:34.03 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:36.17 | nevcairiel | i wonder ... either he sits at "normal" PC viewing distance, then 720p looks like crap in any case, or he sits so far away that it looks OK, but then its so small that you wouldnt see pixel perfect anyway... |
| 20:38.36 | Neffi | But the UI is pixel perfect now |
| 20:38.57 | Neffi | Turn off multisampling, disable UI scale, and render your fonts with OUTLINEMONOCHROME |
| 20:39.49 | Amarande | also, who still gets 720p screens anymore? |
| 20:39.58 | Amarande | those have pretty much gone the way of the dodo |
| 20:40.37 | Amarande | btw, do the awesome looking Apple Cinema screens work well with PCs now that things like the Radeon HD 7850 (and probably the other higher end 7's) have Mini DisplayPort as standard? |
| 20:44.25 | Fisker | i think he's talking about his shitty setup |
| 20:44.40 | Fisker | since the tv is probably not "true" 720p |
| 21:04.18 | Fisker | :O blu |
| 21:04.20 | Fisker | damnit |
| 21:04.48 | Fisker | :O then cogwheel |
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| 21:05.46 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Fisker |
| 21:05.46 | purl | Fisker, you Fail! |
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| 21:06.52 | Fisker | :O Thunder_Child |
| 21:06.55 | Fisker | i'm surprised |
| 21:07.00 | Fisker | Blizzard fixed blue poster |
| 21:07.08 | Thunder_Child | or that's an o face |
| 21:07.51 | Fisker | smash |
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| 21:11.17 | Fisker | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4253971858?page=14#279 |
| 21:11.18 | Fisker | but see |
| 21:11.21 | Fisker | it was fixed |
| 21:16.32 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
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| 21:20.20 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 21:20.23 | Fisker | wanna make out? |
| 21:20.27 | Shirik | k |
| 21:20.38 | Fisker | ok |
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| 21:49.05 | pompy | Fisker: are you pointing out that Xianutou person? |
| 21:50.34 | Fisker | Turikk pompy |
| 21:51.02 | pompy | ah |
| 21:51.32 | zenzelezz | "Woman (21) convicted for dildo theft. The motive is unknown." |
| 21:51.45 | Kalroth | .. |
| 21:52.00 | mckenziemc | o.o |
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| 22:02.29 | Amarande | hrm |
| 22:02.37 | Amarande | did they hotfix dps mana usage or do warlocks just use a lot more than mages ... |
| 22:05.28 | Mr_Rabies | warlocks are a lot less efficient if you're talking about mindlessly spamming attacks |
| 22:06.17 | Mr_Rabies | though that depends a lot on spec, i guess |
| 22:06.27 | Mr_Rabies | demo is basically "what is mana again?" |
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| 22:10.55 | Amarande | maybe it means "you need to use meta more" |
| 22:11.06 | Amarande | I have a habit of not using meta much except in battles that are actually semi- to actually hard |
| 22:16.09 | Amarande | I've never actually gone OOM, but I've noticed my bar gets a lot more empty than my mage's does |
| 22:16.17 | Amarande | even when I'm in arcane spec and don't pay attention to arcane charges |
| 22:17.09 | Kemayo | Huh. I guess Darkmoon Cards can sell for 20k. I just put that one up speculatively. Time to go farm ink. :P |
| 22:26.33 | zenzelezz | right now they seem to be in crazy demand |
| 22:31.09 | A-KO | league of legends bar crawl in DC next weekend :D |
| 22:31.10 | A-KO | woot |
| 22:31.14 | Dagmar | First month of level 90 loots |
| 22:34.12 | Thunder_Child | A-KO: I'm hitting up the world championships, looking forward to that. |
| 22:36.39 | Vladinator | do you know at what point the "C_PetJournal.GetPetInfoByPetID" data is available? it's odd, if I do it too early at login it returns nils :/ even when petID is known! |
| 22:39.09 | Vladinator | appears that I had to wait for PET_JOURNAL_LIST_UPDATE |
| 22:39.36 | A-KO | Thunder_Child: yeah, that's what this bar event is |
| 22:39.43 | A-KO | they're going to have it on at a sports bar...probably like one TV |
| 22:39.45 | A-KO | or something dumb lol |
| 22:39.46 | A-KO | but we'll see. |
| 22:40.12 | A-KO | some dude's laptop in the corner of the bar, tethered to his phone |
| 22:40.14 | A-KO | lol |
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| 22:43.05 | Thunder_Child | A-KO: I think my view will be slightly better |
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| 22:46.10 | Ackis | anyone know of an addon that helps with those rare clickable thingies around the world? |
| 22:53.55 | Torhal | "rare clickable thingies" is very precise. |
| 22:55.26 | pompy | the hidden treasures |
| 22:55.30 | pompy | throughout pandaria! |
| 22:55.40 | pompy | Ackis: only wowhead comments atm! |
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| 23:00.50 | Kemayo | Ackis: I was considering making a handynotes plugin for them. I just haven't felt like doing the research on it yet. |
| 23:01.27 | Ressy | Ackis: I just used an external site |
| 23:02.07 | Ackis | Ressy: anyone in particular? |
| 23:02.24 | Ressy | http://www.blizzplanet.com/blog/comments/how-to-reach-exalted-with-the-lorewalkers-world-of-warcraft-mists-of-pandaria |
| 23:03.05 | Ackis | oh this isn't lorewalkers stuff |
| 23:03.10 | Kemayo | That's the lore objects, not the "rare clickable thingies". |
| 23:03.32 | Kemayo | Ackis: You do mean the Lost and Found ones, right? |
| 23:03.40 | Ackis | Kemayo: yeah |
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| 23:04.48 | pompy | Ackis, Kemayo: http://www.wowhead.com/achievement=7284#comments:id=1722180 |
| 23:05.58 | Ackis | Kemayo: I downloaded your handynotes lorewalkers, were you planning on adding them in there? |
| 23:08.40 | Kemayo | I lean towards making that one super-specific, and adding a new one for this. |
| 23:09.09 | Kemayo | Or making a big change and having HandyNotes_AchievementStuff. :P |
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| 23:15.39 | Fisker | old Ressy |
| 23:18.19 | Ressy | :P |
| 23:19.47 | Ackis | Fisker: it's not nice to call a lady old |
| 23:21.51 | Ressy | I'm fine knowing you're older than me Ackis. :) |
| 23:28.46 | Amarande | Ackis: this is either a feature request or a "if it's already in, how do I do it" thing. possible to have ARL tooltips appear on mobs if they drop recipes an alt needs, too? |
| 23:33.59 | pompy | thats a currently open ticket feature request. |
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| 23:37.10 | Ackis | Amarande: it's already in I think, you need to scan first though before it'll show up |
| 23:40.10 | A-KO | haste or mastery for resto druid? |
| 23:40.14 | A-KO | I'm reforging, which one should I reforge? |
| 23:40.23 | Amarande | ah, so pretty much have to log onto every other alt first *then* the one you want to actually go adventuring on. |
| 23:40.48 | Ressy | uh, why would you need to do that. |
| 23:41.02 | Ressy | you can scan other professions & your alts via the arl screen. |
| 23:48.12 | Ackis | Amarande: and a lot of the profession recipes are BoP as well |
| 23:48.35 | Amarande | Yeah, it's mostly useful when you still have alts leveling through 1-60, maybe Outland too |
| 23:48.52 | Amarande | seems like since LK there's been a precipitous drop in the number of recipes available via drop, with the main exception of JC |
| 23:58.24 | Vladinator | anyone want to help test my addon? involves having pet teams... :( |