| 00:00.03 | Semlar | right, but i mentioned pulling info out of the tooltip and combat log |
| 00:00.13 | Semlar | so there isn't much else you can ONLY get through targeting them |
| 00:00.28 | Neffi | Well don't scan the tooltip |
| 00:00.29 | Semlar | things like current health though you need a valid unit id |
| 00:00.41 | Neffi | Watch mouseover update and use the 'mouseover' unit. Tooltip scanning is bad. |
| 00:00.47 | Semlar | no, it isn't bad |
| 00:00.57 | Semlar | you can get information out of the tooltip without having to mouse over the unit |
| 00:01.16 | Neffi | Not for units that don't exist |
| 00:01.30 | Semlar | for example of all you have is a combat log event you can get information about the guid rather than needing a unit id |
| 00:01.39 | Semlar | s/of/if |
| 00:02.12 | Semlar | why would you need information about a unit that doesn't exist |
| 00:03.18 | Neffi | I'm saying there's a lot of info you cannot get if the unit is not a valid unitid |
| 00:03.40 | Neffi | You can't get the level of a unit unless you can run UnitLevel against thier unitID, or /who |
| 00:05.20 | Semlar | you can get the level because it's in the tooltip |
| 00:05.41 | Neffi | How are you going to set the tooltip to a GUID? |
| 00:05.54 | Neffi | Not unless it's moused over, in which case it IS a valid unitID: mouseover |
| 00:05.55 | Semlar | SetHyperlink('unit:'..guid) |
| 00:05.59 | Semlar | no |
| 00:06.08 | Semlar | look, i made an addon that did this |
| 00:06.10 | Neffi | When the hell did that start working? |
| 00:06.15 | Semlar | a very very long time ago |
| 00:06.30 | Neffi | Ugh, time to rewrite my addon |
| 00:06.39 | Semlar | like years |
| 00:06.49 | Subspace | haha |
| 00:06.58 | Subspace | Neffi, Don't feel too bad |
| 00:07.15 | Neffi | Does it always work? |
| 00:07.16 | Subspace | I found out about GetSpellBaseCooldown yesterday I think |
| 00:07.28 | Semlar | if it's in range of the combat log it does |
| 00:07.33 | Semlar | i don't know otherwise |
| 00:07.38 | Neffi | I mean I assume it requires they are in range (like GetPlayerInfoByGUID) but does it always work in that case? |
| 00:07.39 | Subspace | So I had to go through a many hundred line file and delete all my CD info |
| 00:07.42 | Neffi | Like if they're of the enemy faction |
| 00:07.56 | Semlar | i was only doing it about units i needed information about that were near me |
| 00:08.13 | Neffi | Subspace: When the fuck was that introduced? Why don't I see these functions on the main API page? |
| 00:08.15 | Neffi | Fuck |
| 00:08.27 | Subspace | I guess 4.3.0 |
| 00:08.37 | Semlar | it definitely works for enemy units, i made a spy-eque addon that detected enemy units and output basically all of their info |
| 00:08.40 | Subspace | I made a documentation for it on wowpedia.org as soon as I tested it a bit |
| 00:09.03 | Subspace | http://www.wowpedia.org/index.php?title=API_GetSpellBaseCooldown |
| 00:09.19 | Semlar | i documented it on wowprogramming |
| 00:09.25 | Semlar | because you yelled at me |
| 00:09.31 | Subspace | :O |
| 00:09.41 | Neffi | Subspace: Does that factor in reduced cooldowns, like if you have a talent to reduce the cooldown of Evocation? |
| 00:09.48 | Semlar | no |
| 00:09.50 | Subspace | Neffi, No |
| 00:09.53 | Subspace | But my addon does :p |
| 00:09.56 | Subspace | Well |
| 00:09.58 | Subspace | Kinda |
| 00:10.09 | Subspace | Only for rdruid CDs (tranq and barkskin) |
| 00:10.10 | Neffi | Alright, conversely, are there any talents/spec abilities that totally remove the cooldown on a spell? |
| 00:10.30 | Subspace | There are 4 that reset like preparation |
| 00:10.42 | Neffi | I believe resets will trigger the relevant CD events anyway |
| 00:10.48 | Subspace | There are other weird CD things |
| 00:10.52 | Neffi | Alright, thanks. Time to rewrite another addon. |
| 00:10.55 | Subspace | Haha |
| 00:11.31 | Neffi | Wait, you did testing. It returns nil if the spellid is invalid. Does it return nil or 0 if the spell has no CD? |
| 00:11.41 | Semlar | pretty sure 0 |
| 00:11.46 | Subspace | Neffi, I have an API that I wrote that will fixup the CDs (only on some though currently) |
| 00:11.51 | Subspace | But it requires my lib :\ |
| 00:12.00 | Subspace | 0 iirc |
| 00:12.06 | Semlar | only nil if the spell id is invalid |
| 00:12.19 | Subspace | BTW, it returns 0 on trinket CD |
| 00:12.21 | Neffi | Well I don't depend on GetSpellCooldown returning the wrong value, so I'm only checking base cooldown to filter out spells which don't have a cooldown. |
| 00:12.25 | Subspace | 42292 |
| 00:12.32 | Neffi | So on UPDATE_COOLDOWN, I don't iterate over more spells than I need to |
| 00:12.34 | Subspace | But 120 for EMFH, 59752 |
| 00:12.40 | Neffi | _optimization, yeah!_ |
| 00:13.03 | Neffi | A trinket is an item, not a spell |
| 00:13.27 | Subspace | Theres an UPDATE_COOLDOWN event? |
| 00:14.10 | Neffi | No, but I didn't feel like writing the full name |
| 00:14.10 | Arrowmaster | this is insulting, im entering my email on this site and it has that 'did you mean' library and its asking if i ment arrow@aol.com |
| 00:14.11 | Neffi | ABUD |
| 00:14.16 | Neffi | ABUC* |
| 00:14.30 | Subspace | I only see UPDATE_SHAPESHIPT_COOLDOWN |
| 00:14.37 | Neffi | ACTIONBAR_UPDATE_COOLDOWN |
| 00:14.42 | Subspace | oh |
| 00:15.07 | Neffi | Sorry, SPELL_UPDATE_COOLDOWN |
| 00:15.14 | Neffi | I'm not actually using AB anymore |
| 00:15.15 | pompy | Arrowmaster: at least it wasnt like @compuserv.net or whatever theirs was |
| 00:16.35 | Subspace | BTW, I was able to get combat log info on someone on the other side of Twin Peaks the other night |
| 00:16.43 | Subspace | Is combat log huge in bgs? |
| 00:17.44 | Semlar | it has a pretty big range, i don't think it extends the entire length of the battleground based on my experience |
| 00:17.51 | Subspace | ok |
| 00:18.14 | Semlar | like in av i don't get information about people attacking rams or whatever while i'm up fighting the boss |
| 00:18.23 | Subspace | Maybe I will join an AV and test then |
| 00:18.28 | Subspace | Hmm ok |
| 00:18.34 | Semlar | unless they changed it |
| 00:18.38 | Semlar | which is possible |
| 00:18.43 | Neffi | The range is hard-limited to a certain amount, but it seems to vary based on what your client has or hasn't loaded yet |
| 00:18.58 | Neffi | If a unit is on the edge of the range, but still within range, it may or may not be included |
| 00:19.18 | Semlar | the combat log does have an enormous range though |
| 00:19.19 | Neffi | But if it's in your party/raid, it seems to be always loaded |
| 00:19.24 | Semlar | it's farther than what you can target |
| 00:20.02 | mckenziemc | "The first disposable latex medical gloves were manufactured in 1964 by Ansell. They based the production on the technique for making condoms." o.o |
| 00:20.24 | Semlar | penis glove |
| 00:21.23 | Semlar | does anyone have the exact yard range of the combat log |
| 00:21.27 | Semlar | i want to say 200-300 yards |
| 00:22.06 | Subspace | Last I googled it showed 200 yrd |
| 00:22.19 | Subspace | But is twin peaks longer than that? |
| 00:22.23 | Semlar | i want to mark that on my map |
| 00:22.29 | Neffi | When CLEU was first introduced I vaguely remember them telling us 100 yds, but I don't think it's that small (anymore) |
| 00:22.40 | mckenziemc | it migth vary based on the relevant unit |
| 00:22.53 | Semlar | i think it's 200 but you can decrease it |
| 00:23.48 | Semlar | so it's probably a cvar you can read |
| 00:23.58 | mckenziemc | well, the combat log picks up mobus too, not just rare scanners' tooltip scans, iirc |
| 00:24.09 | mckenziemc | in stormwind |
| 00:24.48 | Semlar | i do recall some rare in mount hyjal hitting me in orgrimmar |
| 00:24.54 | mckenziemc | o.o |
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| 00:25.04 | Semlar | but these are probably just exceptions |
| 00:25.17 | Semlar | some phoenix thing was applying a debuff to everybody |
| 00:25.39 | mckenziemc | check if the old god in twiligth highlands does any combat events |
| 00:25.46 | mckenziemc | i know he's visible much farther than normal units |
| 00:25.56 | Semlar | blazewing |
| 00:26.38 | Semlar | although now that i think about it, technically his ability would have had an unlimited range and the combat log was just detecting that it was hitting me not that the combat log's range was that large |
| 00:27.09 | Semlar | so that makes sense |
| 00:27.38 | mckenziemc | i'm thinking it's pendantically incorrect to think of the combat log itself as having a specific radius |
| 00:27.58 | Semlar | you think? |
| 00:28.08 | mckenziemc | just speculation, but i'd guess it's an attribute for each npc |
| 00:28.48 | Semlar | well, the npc's hitbox might come into play |
| 00:29.41 | mckenziemc | occam's razor with insufficient evidence :D |
| 00:30.29 | Semlar | i know the combat log is limited to a certain radius, i don't know if npcs can bypass that |
| 00:30.37 | Arrowmaster | well i just locked my credit card trying to purchase the indie gala bundle |
| 00:30.48 | mckenziemc | nice |
| 00:31.18 | Arrowmaster | probably because it charged in pounds |
| 00:32.32 | Semlar | looking at the variables there are separate range values for party, friendly players, hostile players, and creatures |
| 00:33.20 | Subspace | Do those change based on location (ie. in a bg) ? |
| 00:33.37 | Semlar | no idea |
| 00:33.47 | Semlar | i'm leaning towards no |
| 00:38.33 | Semlar | i'm not even sure if you can manually set the range any more, all of these pages are old as dirt |
| 00:39.48 | Vladinator | how can I track an achievement trough API? |
| 00:39.51 | Vladinator | so it appears on the watcher |
| 00:40.22 | Semlar | AddTrackedAchievement |
| 00:41.19 | Semlar | validinator you should probably just bookmark this page http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api_categories |
| 00:42.03 | Semlar | i can not type tonight |
| 00:42.12 | Vladinator | I do |
| 00:42.17 | Vladinator | I just couldn't look it up atm :P |
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| 00:44.55 | Semlar | there's some bot function for it to but i don't know what it is |
| 00:45.17 | Neffi | So excited. New headphones coming in 2 days. =D |
| 00:45.26 | mckenziemc | !api AddTrackedAchievement |
| 00:45.28 | lua_bot | AddTrackedAchievement: Adds an achievement to the objectives tracker UI (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/AddTrackedAchievement) |
| 00:45.43 | Neffi | Well actually, repaired headphones. I have a terrible track record with taking care of my headphones. |
| 00:47.43 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/vVuFb.jpg |
| 00:47.56 | pompy | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49079147 |
| 00:48.19 | Neffi | Yeah I managed to mangle the jack connector. No easy way to fix that on IEMs. And they're wooden, so I wasn't about to recable them. |
| 00:48.33 | Semlar | just add more duct tape |
| 00:48.41 | Neffi | No, they really got mangled inside |
| 00:48.46 | Semlar | MORE TAPE |
| 00:49.10 | Neffi | >_> |
| 00:49.17 | Neffi | duct tape isn't the answer to everything |
| 00:49.30 | Semlar | well i don't know about that.. |
| 00:49.36 | Neffi | lol shaman waiting for me to leave town to fight. he's in for a surprise. HK++ |
| 00:50.46 | Neffi | Oh wow he was good |
| 00:51.01 | mckenziemc | pwned |
| 00:51.03 | Semlar | i immediately regret this decision |
| 00:51.24 | Neffi | Which one? |
| 00:51.47 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/1EULB.jpg |
| 00:52.40 | Neffi | pwnd |
| 00:52.48 | Semlar | god damn paladins |
| 00:53.40 | Semlar | do they still have ardent defender? |
| 00:54.32 | Semlar | oh it's not passive any more |
| 00:56.25 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/MS49k.jpg |
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| 00:58.41 | Neffi | With party/raid API being unified into group, how do you differentiate between raids and parties? |
| 00:58.52 | Neffi | Eg I want to print to raid chat in a raid, and party chat in a party |
| 01:00.31 | Semlar | i don't know, the way i did it before was attempt to get the number of players in the group using the raid or party function and see if they returned a value |
| 01:00.38 | Semlar | what about IsInRaid |
| 01:01.30 | Subspace | IsInRaid() is new and will prob do what you want |
| 01:01.35 | Mr_Rabies | you could see how Prat handles it |
| 01:01.57 | Neffi | Yeah the API pages on these wikis seriously need to be updated |
| 01:01.58 | Mr_Rabies | it has a "SmartGroup" option that picks... though it seems a little broken....that might not be a greatidea to look at prat then :p |
| 01:02.04 | Neffi | So many functions that don't appear in the list, documented or not |
| 01:02.29 | Semlar | not sure how it works when you're in a battleground raid but still have your own group outside of it |
| 01:02.33 | Subspace | GetNumGroupMembers() might also work |
| 01:02.54 | Neffi | Subspace: Doesn't tell you what type of group it is |
| 01:03.03 | Semlar | there's IsInRaid, IsInGroup, IsInLFGDungeon, IsInScenarioGroup |
| 01:03.09 | Subspace | Neffi, Tells you if its instance or not |
| 01:03.27 | Subspace | So if i join a party and then a bg, I can use that to figure out which is which |
| 01:03.36 | Subspace | But yeah, IsInRaid() is what I would do |
| 01:03.48 | Semlar | or maybe IsInLFGDungeon should be IsPartyLFG or something |
| 01:04.10 | Semlar | it probably doesn't matter to you anyway |
| 01:04.14 | Subspace | InInInstance is also interesting |
| 01:04.20 | Subspace | *IsInInstance |
| 01:05.42 | Semlar | they might have even added a chat function specifically for this |
| 01:11.58 | Neffi | I don't see it if they did |
| 01:12.28 | Semlar | oh well |
| 01:20.39 | Primer | man, these calendar functions are fucked |
| 01:21.06 | Primer | Apparenlty this takes no argument: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CalendarGetEventInfo |
| 01:21.24 | Primer | And there's no explanation as to how you set the day and event for it to use |
| 01:23.43 | mckenziemc | stateful APIs ftw? |
| 01:24.39 | Semlar | :| |
| 01:26.01 | Primer | So you're saying that pertains to the currently selected event in the open calendar UI? |
| 01:26.12 | ZorbaTHut | one nice thing about using the wow API is that it taught me all sorts of things not to do with APIs :V |
| 01:26.20 | Semlar | for that it's probably something like CalendarOpenEvent |
| 01:26.21 | Primer | agreed |
| 01:26.48 | Semlar | a lot of api functions are like this and it can be kind of annoying |
| 01:28.14 | Semlar | lord knows you can't get any map information without SETTING THE MAP to the zone you're trying to get information about |
| 01:28.49 | Primer | as long as it doesn't actually open any UI elements, this will work |
| 01:29.06 | ZorbaTHut | and that's if the map items you care about are even exposed to the addon API, which they may not be |
| 01:29.27 | Semlar | :( |
| 01:30.04 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/eBbzU.jpg map all the maps |
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| 01:30.16 | ZorbaTHut | really, that's one of the reasons I dumped questhelper - blizzard had set it up so I couldn't even piggyback on their data structures. just not worth fighting with anymore |
| 01:31.34 | Semlar | you know how they highlight zones and update the map text when you hover over something? |
| 01:32.02 | Semlar | they call a function onupdate to get information about the mouse position on the map |
| 01:33.25 | Semlar | it seems pretty inefficient but then again i'm going to be doing practically the same thing |
| 01:33.37 | ZorbaTHut | it's probably not inefficient as such, I mean, I imagine it happens once per frame |
| 01:33.41 | ZorbaTHut | hard to work with, perhaps |
| 01:34.37 | Semlar | well, a little frustrating because the information it provides is only given through that function |
| 01:35.36 | Semlar | that's okay though, i've given into the madness |
| 01:36.51 | Semlar | my map works by attempting to click the map when you hover over an area with a highlight |
| 01:37.38 | Semlar | it's diabolical |
| 01:38.23 | Semlar | because i can keep the continent drawn on the background and just show the zone you're hovering over on top of it |
| 01:38.46 | Semlar | and then when you move off that area it leaves behind a copy of what it was displaying |
| 01:39.52 | Semlar | that way i don't have to store information about every zone in the game i can just request it whenever the map changes |
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| 01:40.40 | Semlar | like-a-so http://i.imgur.com/OaMzw.jpg |
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| 01:44.14 | Semlar | now i'm working on efficient way to draw the minimap tiles so they don't kill your computer |
| 01:45.33 | Semlar | i think i'm going to generate a grid of textures with a set width and height and when the ones on the edges go past a certain point they move around to the other side |
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| 01:50.05 | Semlar | even if i only drew 4 minimap tiles across it would be over 2100 yards wide |
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| 01:52.52 | Motig | map looks pretty sweet like that |
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| 01:53.30 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/OSyZ9.jpg this covers most of my screen and is only 9x6 textures |
| 01:54.04 | Semlar | well, 10x6 |
| 01:59.08 | Mr_Rabies | i wish i could opt to solo scenarios |
| 01:59.09 | Mr_Rabies | :9 |
| 02:02.25 | Neffi | I'm not seeing it: is there a way to get the tracking info for quests that shows up in mouseover tooltips? |
| 02:02.40 | End_ | TC-Work: you have to call the function to use it |
| 02:02.42 | Neffi | Eg when you mouseover a mob and it shows which quest you need it for, and the number you need |
| 02:10.22 | Semlar | i don't know, i can't find where it gets added in framexml |
| 02:10.45 | Neffi | It gets added C-side |
| 02:11.02 | kd3 | ^ afaik. you'd have to scrape the tooltip to get the info |
| 02:13.51 | Neffi | I hate how shitty some APIs or lack of them are |
| 02:14.14 | Neffi | Why do we even have like the dozen widget types that can be made trivially using a normal frame? |
| 02:14.41 | kd3 | blizz very strongly believes in the NIH syndrome |
| 02:15.15 | Neffi | When I make my own MMO, there will be no special treatment for my own UI code. It will function just like an addon. Then when writing it, I can ask myself "is the API I'm providing correct and good?" |
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| 02:15.55 | mckenziemc | hey Torhal |
| 02:16.01 | kd3 | this is stuff the wow modding community has been asking of blizz for years now. they're a hell of a lot better than they used to be |
| 02:16.02 | Torhal | Yar |
| 02:16.11 | Torhal | kd3: What is? |
| 02:16.38 | kd3 | 22:15:15 Neffi: When I make my own MMO, there will be no special treatment for my own UI code. It will function just like an addon. Then when writing it, I can ask myself "is the API I'm providing correct and good?" |
| 02:16.40 | Semlar | they appear to have added a bunch of functions that they don't even use in framexml so they're pretty much just for us |
| 02:17.22 | Semlar | or at least the ability to access more internal functions |
| 02:17.46 | Neffi | Yeah but if the default UI was using its own systems to do things like cast spells and cancel auras, I bet those systems would be much nicer |
| 02:18.13 | Neffi | Not to mention the idea that an addon just can't do something that's not necessarily "not allowed" but just not given to us in a secure way is annoying |
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| 02:26.35 | Adys | Neffi: pretty much how we're currently writing the UI atm withamro |
| 02:26.52 | Neffi | huh? |
| 02:27.08 | Adys | pretty silly just how many api calls blizzard have for shit that could be tracked within the ui itself |
| 02:27.23 | Sintacks | why is wowhead down :( |
| 02:27.37 | Semlar | it isn't |
| 02:27.42 | Sintacks | isn't working for me ;| |
| 02:27.50 | Semlar | tracert |
| 02:28.08 | Sintacks | and http://www.computerhope.com/cgi-bin/isitup.cgi says it's down too |
| 02:28.13 | kd3 | http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/wowhead.com |
| 02:28.16 | Semlar | i'm lookin at it right now |
| 02:28.24 | Semlar | it's not even loading slow for me |
| 02:29.09 | Semlar | it's probably some major node is down |
| 02:29.12 | Sintacks | starting trace |
| 02:30.04 | Sintacks | http://puu.sh/16NXp |
| 02:30.21 | Semlar | well that isn't even timing out for you |
| 02:30.22 | Adys | wowhead is down here too |
| 02:30.35 | Semlar | what does it do when you try to access it? |
| 02:30.59 | Semlar | can you load http://50.97.93.20 |
| 02:31.12 | Ressy | I can |
| 02:31.22 | Adys | http://paste2.org/p/2242691 |
| 02:32.14 | Ressy | http://pastebin.com/1BDwxJk6 |
| 02:32.22 | Semlar | http://paste2.org/p/2242695 |
| 02:33.22 | Torhal | Paste it all! |
| 02:33.39 | Semlar | i'll just horde all of the wowhead to myself |
| 02:33.53 | Semlar | hoard? |
| 02:33.56 | Semlar | whatever |
| 02:34.54 | mckenziemc | puts Esamynn away again. |
| 02:41.08 | Mr_Rabies | [10:39]<Deadly Boss Mods> Combat against Scenario - Theramore's Fall (4%) ended after 40 minutes and 36 seconds. You have 1 total wipes on this difficulty. |
| 02:41.09 | Mr_Rabies | welp |
| 02:41.21 | kd3 | 40 minutes? |
| 02:41.22 | kd3 | eesh |
| 02:41.35 | Mr_Rabies | randomly popped up while idling in town |
| 02:41.37 | Mr_Rabies | O_o |
| 02:41.43 | Mr_Rabies | for like, 20 minutes |
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| 02:47.48 | Mr_Rabies | oh man, http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6606432458#16 LOL |
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| 02:54.25 | Neffi | Have the devs given any indication that looms might be extended past 80 for MoP? |
| 02:54.46 | kd3 | no |
| 02:58.28 | Sintacks | as expensive as they still are, they should work until 85 ; |
| 02:58.32 | Sintacks | ;\ |
| 03:00.56 | Esamynn | ~lart mckenziemc |
| 03:00.56 | purl | installs a bad bootloader on mckenziemc and turns mckenziemc into a brick |
| 03:01.27 | mckenziemc | get back in your box |
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| 03:04.27 | End_ | ugh dealing with stuff being properly loaded with an empty cache is annoying |
| 03:06.44 | Thunder_Child | End_: and yet, it loads on page/script call regardless |
| 03:07.14 | Arrowmaster | 8 out of 14 online xbl friends playing bl2, where are you amazon shipment |
| 03:07.45 | Thunder_Child | as it stands I'm going to dump it into a text file because that will actually be faster |
| 03:07.56 | pompy | Arrowmaster: what does tracking say!? |
| 03:08.06 | Arrowmaster | there is none |
| 03:08.50 | Arrowmaster | because amazon is cheap and using premier for their super saver shippings now |
| 03:08.58 | Ressy | New Blizzard promo vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOeUvGrugbc&feature=colike |
| 03:09.14 | pompy | release day shipping was done with from what i heard even though itts still in their help section |
| 03:10.16 | Neffi | The zone developers on MOP are fucking talented |
| 03:10.19 | Arrowmaster | they probably want everybody to sign up for amazon prime |
| 03:10.21 | Neffi | Really beautiful |
| 03:10.57 | pompy | yeah for me its half off, $39/yr .. its kinda tempting |
| 03:11.08 | Arrowmaster | half off for what |
| 03:11.37 | Arrowmaster | i would get it for the instant videos if they had an even half decent anime collection, but they dont, its fucking terrible |
| 03:11.55 | kd3 | that really disappointed me when I went looking |
| 03:12.34 | Arrowmaster | so fucking terrible |
| 03:12.48 | Arrowmaster | not a single thing ive seen or would watch i think |
| 03:13.29 | pompy | Arrowmaster: amazon prime |
| 03:13.49 | Arrowmaster | i know, but why are you being offered half off |
| 03:13.49 | Neffi | I thought guards were getting nerfed on PvP servers? Why does this one have 1.2M HP? |
| 03:13.56 | pompy | Arrowmaster: from amazon student |
| 03:14.06 | Arrowmaster | i thought student only offered 6 months free |
| 03:14.14 | pompy | it was a year when i enrolled |
| 03:14.23 | pompy | it changed it 6 months earlier this year |
| 03:14.57 | pompy | actually last year in august |
| 03:15.35 | Arrowmaster | student things are silly, ive still got access to my college email and will forever |
| 03:15.39 | pompy | but after the free one ends, they offer it for $39/yr for the next 3 years. |
| 03:17.25 | pompy | Arrowmaster: yeah it can be silly, unless they commit to their fine print :) |
| 03:17.56 | Arrowmaster | i mean they all basically check if you have a .edu email address |
| 03:18.31 | pompy | yeah you cant sign up without one |
| 03:18.39 | pompy | i went to a school that had a .com email address! |
| 03:18.46 | pompy | and couldnt sign up |
| 03:19.55 | pompy | Arrowmaster: but even if u have an .edu addy, they may randomly ask you to provide proof that you are taking classes! |
| 03:20.18 | Arrowmaster | they cant really automate that though |
| 03:20.23 | pompy | and if you cant prove it, you'll be responsible of all the free shipping charges you got |
| 03:20.25 | Arrowmaster | so is it worth it to them |
| 03:20.37 | pompy | dunnoo |
| 03:22.37 | Arrowmaster | i no theyve replaced it http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/7cd6b94c133d4ba59f1c1435b841b2cb/OH--Jesus-Statue-Return |
| 03:22.54 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 03:27.58 | Arrowmaster | rofl http://youtu.be/Z08k6zYsVAY |
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| 03:38.30 | Neffi | LOL |
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| 03:40.55 | pompy | brilliant |
| 03:46.51 | Neffi | Is Gangnam Style supposed to be a serious video? |
| 03:47.06 | Neffi | I can't tell if it's self-parody or just sad |
| 03:47.35 | durcyn | can't it be both? |
| 03:50.45 | pompy | Neffi: kpop ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0 |
| 03:50.52 | pompy | 221 million views in 2 montrhhs |
| 03:51.05 | Neffi | Well it's obviously taken as parody |
| 03:51.16 | Mr_Rabies | i can't convince wow to build a taintlog, what the heck |
| 03:51.20 | Mr_Rabies | it's /console TaintLog 1, right? |
| 03:51.38 | Mr_Rabies | obviously there's some massive taint, my glyph frame is totally blank |
| 03:51.41 | Mr_Rabies | ugh |
| 03:51.53 | Mr_Rabies | i still can't type "massive taint" without getting a little disgusted |
| 03:51.55 | Kaylin | men usually have twice as long taints as women. |
| 03:51.59 | Kaylin | tmyk |
| 03:52.26 | Kaylin | d/w I obviously went there too. |
| 03:53.03 | pompy | weird |
| 03:55.12 | Neffi | Mr_Rabies: Taintlog is broken right now. Not sure the extent of it, but I do know enabling the taintlog causes some errors, the nature of which suggests it's doing something it's not supposed to be. |
| 03:55.23 | Neffi | I wouldn't be surprised if it's incapable of actually logging taint at all right now |
| 03:55.41 | Mr_Rabies | this stuff should be way easier to figure out |
| 03:56.01 | Neffi | Leave it off or you'll randomly hit into an error with UIDropdownMenu where the taintlog set its global for tracking the downdown level to a userdata value |
| 03:56.17 | Mr_Rabies | if they're gonna limit the UI so much, it shouldn't take more than an expansion for whatever addon is breaking the hell out of everything in my UI to be fixed :( |
| 03:56.54 | Neffi | Sometimes that's the addon authors fault |
| 03:56.57 | Neffi | Go yell at them |
| 03:57.31 | Neffi | lol |
| 03:57.43 | Neffi | Lagged out of CRZ. Could not speak or cast. But guild chat worked. |
| 03:57.47 | Neffi | CRZ is really unstable still |
| 03:59.23 | Esamynn | I would argue that all taint errors are really the addon author's fault |
| 03:59.32 | Esamynn | it's Blizzard's playground, we're just the guests |
| 04:00.50 | Thunder_Child | Neffi: I think it was self described as well dressed and cheesey dance in a nutshell |
| 04:03.05 | Neffi | Do non-combat pets stealth with you yet? |
| 04:03.20 | Neffi | Or will enemies still see a kitten running towards them in BGs? |
| 04:03.36 | End_ | they won't stealth with you so far as I know |
| 04:09.25 | xyphoid | god that's funny when it happens |
| 04:09.39 | xyphoid | i remember watching a penguin run towards the AV tower i was defending |
| 04:09.45 | xyphoid | made my week |
| 04:10.04 | mckenziemc | somebody i know insisted they stealth too |
| 04:10.07 | mckenziemc | but i haven't verified |
| 04:10.09 | End_ | I think some people do it for effect, but most probably don't realize |
| 04:10.19 | End_ | I just checked |
| 04:10.27 | End_ | if they do stealth, it's not apparent |
| 04:10.31 | End_ | on your own |
| 04:10.51 | mckenziemc | i know i've seen a companion without the rogue being visible at the time, but i think it was one of those mechanical greench things |
| 04:11.21 | xyphoid | i definitely saw a penguin attacking, it was amazing |
| 04:11.26 | End_ | I've seen it too, but I wasn't certain it hasn't changed since 5.0 |
| 04:11.27 | xyphoid | well, advancing, you know what i mean |
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| 04:11.53 | Neffi | imagines a kitten ambushing a Horde. |
| 04:11.54 | Neffi | =) |
| 04:12.15 | End_ | my big fat tauren druid runs around with a little kitty cat |
| 04:13.20 | Neffi | After playing a mage, trying to Blink on my rogue. Priceless. |
| 04:13.37 | Neffi | Anyone else incapable of constantly switching classes? |
| 04:13.49 | kd3 | has only ever seriously played his mage |
| 04:14.17 | End_ | I keep my key bindings pretty similar in terms of the type of functionality, but I'm pretty one classish like kd3 |
| 04:14.32 | End_ | I think blink/teleport is sprint on my rogue |
| 04:14.45 | End_ | I haven't really played him in a long time though |
| 04:16.23 | Neffi | Yeah Blink is Shadowstep on my rogue. I keep keys heavily categorized. It's just weird. |
| 04:16.50 | End_ | that would probably make more sense than sprint |
| 04:17.03 | End_ | if I ever played him again :< |
| 04:17.36 | Neffi | Well Sprint is the shift of that button |
| 04:18.00 | Neffi | All mobility on 1 button. All control split between 2. All main DPS nukes on 1. Etc |
| 04:18.13 | End_ | ah |
| 04:23.18 | Subspace | Neffi, Gangnam style is satire about a korean town full of rich idiots |
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| 04:56.09 | kd3 | damn you, [Hyldnir Spoils], damn you to hell |
| 05:03.56 | Semlar | viking hell or regular hell |
| 05:04.11 | kd3 | both |
| 05:05.50 | Semlar | diabolical.. |
| 05:06.20 | kd3 | I want the damned bear. I could probably look up how many times I've done a daily of hers, but that would depress me |
| 05:06.54 | Semlar | if it weren't so rare would you want it so badly |
| 05:07.17 | Semlar | or do you just really really like white bears |
| 05:07.27 | kd3 | just trying to add to my collection |
| 05:07.32 | kd3 | I (finally) hit 100 last week |
| 05:08.20 | Semlar | it'll probably be available at the black market auction house later but then of course it'll cost lotsa gold |
| 05:09.20 | znf | wow, the "feasts" in MoP are retarded |
| 05:09.21 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure it's in the sack of spoils from doing randoms but i've never, ever gotten anything rare out of one of those |
| 05:09.33 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/Hyldnir_Spoils |
| 05:10.23 | Semlar | maybe if you take the snowballs and cheese you could fabricate your own bear |
| 05:12.51 | pompy | love that polar bear |
| 05:14.30 | znf | kd3, I got my polar bear on first try :-/ |
| 05:14.39 | kd3 | if I could kill you with my mind... |
| 05:14.51 | pompy | i got it on 2 chars! |
| 05:16.20 | znf | I'm really enraged about the food buff model |
| 05:16.36 | znf | Unless I'm missing something and you can get dozens of Ironpaw Tokens every day |
| 05:17.59 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/WMFKr.jpg |
| 05:18.31 | znf | http://blog.askmrrobot.com/2012/09/food-buffs-in-pandaria-a-guide-by-the-numbers/ |
| 05:19.08 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/PHdUA.jpg as far as i'm concerned the drop rate is 2/5 |
| 05:19.23 | Neffi | "Already known" Damn you Semlar |
| 05:19.29 | Neffi | hogging the leet shit from the rest of us |
| 05:19.37 | Semlar | >_> |
| 05:19.57 | znf | Semlar, yeah, got it on my 5-6th kill, too |
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| 05:19.59 | Semlar | i don't know what you mean, it's got a 40% drop rate |
| 05:20.16 | kd3 | blah blah blah, c'mon kael. let me kill you already |
| 05:20.19 | kd3 | taps his foot |
| 05:20.29 | End_ | yeah...YEAH KAEL |
| 05:20.48 | neutronimity | Why should he bow to anyone? |
| 05:20.53 | End_ | going for the hawkstrider? |
| 05:20.58 | End_ | or the fire bird |
| 05:21.17 | End_ | if it is the former, don't kill the pack before him, and he doesn't do his speech |
| 05:21.38 | End_ | just let them wail on you or go around them, it doesn't matter |
| 05:21.38 | kd3 | [Phoenix Hatchling] |
| 05:21.39 | kd3 | ! |
| 05:21.39 | kd3 | yay |
| 05:21.43 | End_ | nice |
| 05:22.00 | kd3 | got the mount a few weeks back |
| 05:22.10 | kd3 | one less heroic to waltz through |
| 05:22.48 | End_ | guess my advice came a little late then :P |
| 05:22.54 | znf | Is anyone else confused as hell on the food buffs? :-| |
| 05:23.06 | Semlar | no |
| 05:23.06 | Sintacks | Wait what... |
| 05:23.11 | Sintacks | reporting place for spam removes the lin? |
| 05:23.12 | Sintacks | line* |
| 05:23.16 | End_ | all I know is there are 6 different types of cooking or something like that |
| 05:23.19 | Sintacks | player* |
| 05:23.22 | Sintacks | wow typos i suck |
| 05:23.23 | znf | there's more to it :-/ |
| 05:23.29 | Semlar | reporting someone for spam hides everything they said from the chat |
| 05:23.42 | Semlar | and temporarily blocks them |
| 05:23.43 | End_ | well I will figure it out later ;-p |
| 05:24.37 | znf | End_, as far as I figured it out now, you're pretty much "required" to use the farm, because those ingredients are needed for feasts and individual food buffs |
| 05:24.49 | End_ | are the ingredients bop? |
| 05:25.26 | znf | End_, not sure at this point |
| 05:25.55 | End_ | I would assume/hope not, which loosens the requirement a bit (although you probably wouldn't want to buy them at the start) |
| 05:25.57 | znf | It's too complex :-/ |
| 05:26.09 | znf | there's +250, +275 and +300 food |
| 05:28.13 | znf | Then there's "specialized" feasts that everyone can get +250 from, but if you are specialized in that "way", you get +275 from it |
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| 05:31.59 | Semlar | does anyone know how /who is throttled |
| 05:32.19 | Semlar | long how long you have to wait between requests |
| 05:33.17 | znf | First impression of MoP: We're gonna need MUCH bigger bags |
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| 05:40.46 | Esamynn | Semlar: 10 seconds? maybe test it? :P |
| 05:41.09 | Semlar | i think it's shorter than that |
| 05:42.07 | Semlar | not sure how i'd test it |
| 05:42.23 | Semlar | just keep sending queries until the result changes i guess |
| 05:43.46 | Semlar | i'm going to say 5 seconds is probably enough |
| 05:51.59 | kd3 | oh, wow. they're turning off the fishing tournaments until a future patch |
| 05:52.26 | Semlar | i think because of the cross realm zones |
| 05:52.38 | Semlar | they were being exploited somehow |
| 05:52.46 | Dagmar | Well, at least I can't skin the Steamtonk anymore |
| 05:53.00 | Dagmar | That was just *weird* |
| 05:58.40 | Semlar | wow, the game just spams SetMapToCurrentZone while the battlemap is open |
| 05:58.57 | Esamynn | only if the player isn't on the map |
| 05:59.04 | Semlar | ah |
| 05:59.08 | Semlar | that explains it |
| 05:59.35 | Semlar | i'm going to have to put a stop to this |
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| 06:05.55 | Semlar | is there a better way to replace the keybind for this other than hooking the show method |
| 06:08.37 | Semlar | i haven't messed with the bindings much |
| 06:09.27 | Semlar | i think you can override what they do |
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| 06:30.01 | Semlar | i have simultaneously figured it out and made it so i can no longer open my map |
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| 08:19.33 | starlon | :/ |
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| 08:32.34 | Semlar | :) |
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| 08:37.53 | EthanCentaurai | Cairenn: ping |
| 08:39.17 | Cairenn | EthanCentaurai: pong |
| 08:39.25 | Semlar | step up to the table |
| 08:40.36 | EthanCentaurai | Cairenn: can you make me author of http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=1127bb615cdf260e7f6c8d0cd9cf4d09&id=5473 please? wmrojer has disappeared and I have Dys' permission to continue it |
| 08:41.43 | EthanCentaurai | if you're not busy of course ^_^ |
| 08:43.33 | Cairenn | points EthanCentaurai to the other window |
| 09:04.38 | Cairenn | done |
| 09:04.45 | Cairenn | err, wrong window |
| 09:05.36 | EthanCentaurai | <3 |
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| 09:45.21 | Vladinator | ~poke Cairenn |
| 09:45.21 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Cairenn, pokes Cairenn repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 09:45.28 | Cairenn | hi Vladinator |
| 09:45.37 | Vladinator | elaborate poke |
| 09:46.54 | Stanzilla | Vladinator: can you link me that wowhead chrome addon of yours again please? |
| 09:47.08 | Vladinator | http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/113351 |
| 09:48.27 | Vladinator | hmm, new character name |
| 09:50.01 | Cairenn | hehehehe, it's so cute when your cat or dog is dreaming - little twitches and noises |
| 09:51.41 | Vladinator | :3 |
| 09:52.47 | Vladinator | dear diary, today I woke up from nose bleed :( |
| 09:54.11 | Semlar | your brain is leaking |
| 09:54.19 | Stanzilla | Vladinator: thank you, does it support some kind of output option that I can post on forums etc? |
| 09:54.23 | Vladinator | it was too dry :P |
| 09:54.28 | Vladinator | nope |
| 09:54.32 | Vladinator | it has no options :D |
| 09:54.33 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 09:54.37 | Vladinator | muhahaha |
| 09:54.53 | Stanzilla | need to get started with crafting stuff for my guild (raid support) |
| 09:54.59 | Vladinator | :/ |
| 09:55.02 | Vladinator | that's lame |
| 09:56.39 | Vladinator | argh! |
| 09:56.45 | Vladinator | can't think of a character name atm |
| 09:57.38 | Semlar | Undecided |
| 09:58.24 | Cairenn | Vladinator: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=name+generator |
| 10:00.09 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/7KNys.jpg that used to be my warrior's name |
| 10:02.32 | Vladinator | I like the guild chat :P |
| 10:02.43 | Semlar | >_> |
| 10:02.47 | Vladinator | oh opportunity to check for embeded code on your screenshot! |
| 10:02.54 | Semlar | ! |
| 10:05.41 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/ZmA0r.jpg these screenshots are a little old |
| 10:06.28 | Vladinator | ah TBC |
| 10:06.31 | Vladinator | that's more like it |
| 10:07.19 | Vladinator | nothing |
| 10:07.20 | Vladinator | :) |
| 10:07.28 | Vladinator | probably using jpg quality 10 ;) |
| 10:07.32 | Vladinator | or external capture software |
| 10:07.43 | Semlar | probably |
| 10:08.02 | Semlar | or they're older than the tagging |
| 10:09.54 | Semlar | that shield isn't even in the game any more |
| 10:10.26 | Vladinator | read tagging was added somewhere in tbc |
| 10:11.37 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/qCCjP.jpg |
| 10:12.02 | Vladinator | big bear |
| 10:13.00 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/wGrEH.jpg |
| 10:14.23 | Stanzilla | Vladinator: "login required to install " :( |
| 10:14.28 | Vladinator | I know |
| 10:14.39 | Vladinator | login, or copy the sources into your own file |
| 10:14.50 | Vladinator | the site is not moderated and the script ended up unlisted :P |
| 10:14.53 | Vladinator | can't relist it |
| 10:15.38 | Stanzilla | Vladinator: before I do that, will it be able to list me all the mats I need for http://www.wowhead.com/quest=30452 ? |
| 10:15.56 | Vladinator | it shows for recipes |
| 10:16.04 | Stanzilla | that's why I'm asking |
| 10:16.14 | Vladinator | have to look at the "created by" spell |
| 10:16.34 | Vladinator | yes, but there aren't many materials lol :P |
| 10:17.07 | Vladinator | 1-8 items |
| 10:17.11 | Vladinator | probably drops |
| 10:17.15 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/qPRMf.jpg muahaha |
| 10:17.33 | Vladinator | why is the chat blurred? :D |
| 10:17.39 | Semlar | SO YOU CAN'T READ IT |
| 10:18.00 | Semlar | super secret conversations |
| 10:18.16 | Vladinator | yes |
| 10:18.19 | Vladinator | I never do that ^^ |
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| 10:24.52 | Elkano | GetItemInfo is driving me insane... calling it for an item that isn't in client data and hasn't been seen by the server since restart will SOMETIMES prevent the client from getting data for that item at a later point :/ causing unlootable/unrollable items :/ |
| 10:25.24 | Vladinator | this can happen with API for battlegrounds too |
| 10:25.33 | Vladinator | world pvp, wintergrasp, e.g. sometimes it stops returning valid data :D |
| 10:25.46 | Vladinator | saying the bg is always active until relog |
| 10:26.14 | Semlar | good times |
| 10:28.15 | Vladinator | my new character is called Rootkit |
| 10:28.17 | Vladinator | :p |
| 10:28.31 | Semlar | sounds dangerous |
| 10:29.52 | Vladinator | many think of it negatively, thinking of malware and such |
| 10:30.04 | Vladinator | but doesn't have to :P |
| 10:33.50 | zenzio | Vladinator: neither does a swastika, but it's generally easier to just avoid ambiguous names |
| 10:34.01 | Vladinator | lol |
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| 10:41.13 | Vladinator | don't worry guys, it's just a name :D |
| 10:41.55 | Semlar | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/keylogger/simple that's what i said about my hunter |
| 10:45.07 | Vladinator | :D |
| 10:45.23 | Vladinator | btw, can someone help me invite my char to my guild? can't be on guild and alt at the same time :P |
| 10:46.45 | Vladinator | it doesn't take long |
| 10:46.48 | Semlar | i would but my account's not active |
| 10:46.51 | Vladinator | just login on my realm and I invire you and such |
| 10:47.01 | Vladinator | looks at Stanzilla. |
| 10:47.07 | Elkano | you're missing some vital information on that request |
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| 10:49.43 | Vladinator | :( |
| 10:49.46 | Vladinator | auchindoun eu |
| 10:49.48 | Vladinator | alliance |
| 10:50.01 | Vladinator | vital information completed |
| 10:50.24 | Vladinator | I inherited this guild around level 15 |
| 10:50.30 | Vladinator | and I have leveled it up to 23 now, ALONE |
| 10:50.32 | Vladinator | :P |
| 10:50.39 | Vladinator | not purposefully, just playing like normal |
| 10:50.59 | Vladinator | but now I got a guild I inherited with a name I don't really care about, but curious if a GM can assist renaming in future, if needed :P |
| 10:52.59 | Elkano | will you sign my guild charter in return? ;) |
| 10:53.09 | Elkano | (different realm though) |
| 10:53.22 | Vladinator | yes |
| 10:53.36 | Vladinator | I will |
| 10:53.41 | Vladinator | of course |
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| 10:53.56 | Vladinator | doesn't make any sense if I don't :/ |
| 10:55.10 | Vladinator | leveling your guild past 20 was faster than pre 20 fyi |
| 10:55.13 | Vladinator | even alone :P |
| 10:57.47 | Vladinator | camping stormwind :P |
| 10:57.54 | Vladinator | waiting :3 |
| 11:06.24 | Vladinator | thank you Elkano |
| 11:07.41 | Elkano | dito :) |
| 11:14.22 | zenzio | I remember sitting on a level 1 or so in Stormwind for a while during a few days of coding... earned an interesting amount of gold from signing charters |
| 11:15.25 | Semlar | i don't get to sign any charters on a trial account :| |
| 11:15.49 | Semlar | on the plus side i still get all the guild spam |
| 11:17.17 | Vladinator | :D |
| 11:18.39 | Vladinator | worgen leveling looks buggy :S |
| 11:18.44 | Vladinator | stuck, the quest mob is not here |
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| 11:19.12 | Semlar | whoever wrote SuperGuildInvite is going to BURN IN HELL FOR IT |
| 11:20.03 | Vladinator | it's blizzards fault too |
| 11:20.38 | Vladinator | people who wanna level up their guilds invite anyone that is leveleing to leech their gold and xp :P |
| 11:21.00 | zenzio | I'm curious what the motivation was to not require physical proximity to invite characters |
| 11:21.06 | Vladinator | .3 |
| 11:21.09 | Vladinator | good question |
| 11:21.22 | Vladinator | how about when an alt logs in or a friend and wants a invitie? :3 |
| 11:21.54 | zenzio | I do believe they discussed it internally before making it so, I'm just curious |
| 11:22.07 | Semlar | apparently they actually wrote another addon to block their previous addon |
| 11:22.09 | zenzio | if it required proximity, the invite spam would be limited to whispers |
| 11:22.24 | Semlar | so they may be redeemed.. |
| 11:22.30 | nevcairiel | i think it owuld just be annoying if you want to join a guild |
| 11:22.49 | nevcairiel | especially for alts |
| 11:23.03 | zenzio | I imagine that's the concensus |
| 11:23.12 | nevcairiel | you can block invites in the options |
| 11:23.14 | zenzio | I'm usually on the minority side of opinions :) |
| 11:23.16 | zenzio | I know |
| 11:23.29 | zenzio | if only that was smart enough to filter the whispers too |
| 11:23.42 | nevcairiel | well whispers you might also get in your system |
| 11:23.56 | nevcairiel | although not many people would really be willing to travel somewhere just to join a random guild |
| 11:23.59 | nevcairiel | especially on low levels |
| 11:24.21 | nevcairiel | (but the guild could send recruiters to the low areas, i suppose= |
| 11:24.24 | zenzio | I'm not arguing your point |
| 11:25.17 | Semlar | this is actually a genius way to get more downloads |
| 11:25.29 | Semlar | write a super annoying addon and then write another one that blocks it |
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| 12:29.42 | pompy | http://www.gamestop.com/elect/consoles/neo-geo-x-gold/104733 :O |
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| 12:31.19 | pompy | Ackis: are you a poweruprewards member at gamestop? "Just for being a PowerUp Rewards™ member, you could win a chance to Become a Character in the World of Borderlands 2. You are automatically entered when you make a purchase or trade in September with your PowerUp Rewards card at any GameStop store or online at GameStop.com" |
| 12:31.21 | pompy | http://www.poweruprewards.com/PUR/Enter/EpicRewardSep12 |
| 12:32.16 | pompy | haha so it's gonna be a future addon pack |
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| 13:09.00 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, oooh, alestane! |
| 13:09.16 | alestane | Oooh? |
| 13:09.43 | alestane | These sounds like happy excited noises. |
| 13:10.15 | Thunder_Child | or she is a ghost |
| 13:13.52 | Lopeppeppy | http://pinterest.com/jarien/blake-donalds/ |
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| 13:14.42 | alestane | The goggles are an interesting touch. |
| 13:15.20 | alestane | The corset looks like an excellent foundation with a little embellishment. |
| 13:15.25 | alestane | Neat! |
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| 13:15.48 | Lopeppeppy | The goggles would be to take apart for the wings for a helmet. The hemlet is gonna be a big problem, I think. |
| 13:15.57 | Lopeppeppy | But the black corset is an awesome foundation. |
| 13:16.00 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.11 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, blueberry |
| 13:16.13 | alestane | The 'almost' corset would have been more original style, the chosen corset is more movie-style. |
| 13:17.25 | alestane | Oh, and I showed Kat holyclothing.com and it took her about a half hour to make herself go to bed. I plan to show the Sparkly One this weekend and I expect her to have a similar reaction. |
| 13:17.40 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. The studs really didn't work for me though, so I guess I'm committed to the movie style. |
| 13:17.51 | Lopeppeppy | Show them both the site for my corset, they'll love it too. |
| 13:18.10 | alestane | I think Kat has seen, but not 100% sure. |
| 13:18.15 | Lopeppeppy | And tell Kat that the tops run a bit more snug than the dresses on HC. |
| 13:18.30 | Dagmar | alestane: Show her http://store.vampirefreaks.com/. Much more likely to be useful to you. ;) |
| 13:19.21 | alestane | Interesting stuff, Dagmar, but not really in our tone. |
| 13:19.24 | Lopeppeppy | If you find me chain mail leggings I'll be forever in your debt, and also send you cookies, Dagmar. |
| 13:19.48 | alestane | We tend more toward the goth/renfaire intersection. |
| 13:21.46 | Dagmar | Then you probably want cryoflesh, infectious threads, and/or heavy red as well |
| 13:22.05 | Dagmar | I wind up ordering stuff from Cryoflesh about every other month |
| 13:24.06 | alestane | On the first page, http://store.vampirefreaks.com/product.php?pid=4809 is the only one that looks like a "maybe." |
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| 13:27.13 | Dagmar | You might have more luck with cryoflesh.com, then |
| 13:29.06 | Arrowmaster | yay i woke up to find a box with borderlands2 |
| 13:29.57 | Kraps | what are you guys dressing up for |
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| 13:34.24 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, I'm cosplaying Thor at a sci fi con in January. |
| 13:40.09 | Kraps | ah neat |
| 13:40.23 | Lopeppeppy | With a bunch of other girlfriends doing the other avengers. |
| 13:42.40 | Arrowmaster | will we get pics |
| 13:42.56 | Kraps | ^ |
| 13:44.46 | Dagmar | Interested parties want to know this |
| 13:45.50 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, you dogs. *laughs* |
| 13:47.45 | Dagmar | You tell a channel full of nerds and geeks that you and your girlie friends are getting together and dressing up as comix characters and expect us to NOT want to see? |
| 13:47.53 | Dagmar | We're introverts, not dead. |
| 13:48.08 | Lopeppeppy | Very true. |
| 13:48.55 | alestane | Good luck; Peppy is about as challenging to photograph as the Bachman's Warbler. |
| 13:51.13 | Lopeppeppy | Or the last of the great kodo. |
| 13:51.27 | Lopeppeppy | As likely to bash you upside the head as stand still. |
| 13:52.18 | alestane | The first day of BlizzCon when I finally got to meet her, she was wearing a shirt that said, "Do you want to check your hit points before or after I slap you?" |
| 13:52.31 | Kraps | cold |
| 13:54.51 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 13:55.37 | Lopeppeppy | *blinks innocently* |
| 13:55.51 | Lopeppeppy | Did I even smack you once? No, although you richly deserved it for booping my nose. |
| 13:56.19 | Maldivia | I would assume the hit points went up after a slap... |
| 13:56.21 | alestane | And I understand that that is not welcome, now. |
| 13:57.29 | alestane | It's a sign of affection on this end, for whatever reason. |
| 13:57.55 | Lopeppeppy | Cooookies. |
| 13:58.12 | alestane | Those are also a sign of affection. |
| 13:58.33 | Maldivia | Lopeppeppy: you just had to mention that.... now I'm hungry! |
| 13:59.01 | Shirik | http://www.chron.com/news/article/UK-soldier-unexpectedly-gives-birth-in-Afghanistan-3879645.php |
| 13:59.09 | Shirik | How do you "unexpectedly give birth" |
| 13:59.17 | Shirik | don't you have a couple of months to go "oh maybe I should go home" |
| 13:59.42 | Shirik | "Britain's defense ministry said Thursday that it had not been aware the soldier was pregnant" |
| 13:59.44 | Shirik | ..? |
| 13:59.48 | Kraps | ^ |
| 13:59.50 | Kraps | lol |
| 14:00.46 | alestane | One would expect her cohorts to notice something, yes. |
| 14:00.49 | mitch0 | Shirik: remember the 'yo mamma so fat' jokes? |
| 14:00.51 | Lopeppeppy | Not always... it can happen. |
| 14:01.02 | Lopeppeppy | Happened to one of my cousins, to my mortification. |
| 14:01.24 | mitch0 | s/mamma/cousin/ :P |
| 14:02.35 | Lopeppeppy | And they're not commenting on whether or not the momma knew, just that she hid it successfully from superiors. |
| 14:03.05 | Maldivia | alestane: see the last paragraph in the article |
| 14:06.20 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/236761-appear-offline-option-coming-soon-to-battlenet/ |
| 14:07.28 | Shirik | added my first airline ticket to passbook! |
| 14:07.31 | Shirik | it works |
| 14:07.35 | Maldivia | Kraps: it's only taken then, what, two years?! |
| 14:08.14 | bluspacecow | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/blog/5891817 |
| 14:08.58 | Maldivia | didn't they mention that they would add it during the S2 beta? |
| 14:09.28 | Kraps | basically when blizzard says a feature is coming, and they dont cancel it, you can be sure it will arrive sometime before the sun explodes |
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| 14:13.05 | Kraps | "farm in piece" |
| 14:13.08 | Kraps | ok |
| 14:13.56 | Kraps | 2 separate people wrote that |
| 14:15.13 | Kraps | i bet Rythal regrets taking of carbonite |
| 14:15.34 | Kraps | over* |
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| 14:26.22 | Vladinator | prat sometimes doesn't load properly I think, timestamps are missing :D |
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| 14:40.23 | Stanzilla | dolby: why is wowhead so slow today? |
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| 14:42.25 | mitch0 | kraps: moo? |
| 14:42.33 | bluspacecow | silly question from one that hasn't played in a few days : how do you know if you're in a CRZ ? Is it all realms now ? All zones or just select zones in the realm ? |
| 14:43.24 | foxlit | bluspacecow: You see someone from another realm. |
| 14:43.49 | bluspacecow | and they have a player name - realm name type name ? |
| 14:43.53 | End_ | yup |
| 14:44.01 | bluspacecow | But I see fisker all the time in game |
| 14:44.09 | bluspacecow | Fisker - King of Trolls |
| 14:44.47 | End_ | king of trolls is fisker's home realm...he's only a part of a much bigger mega troll |
| 14:44.50 | End_ | scary, isn't it |
| 14:45.10 | bluspacecow | hold me |
| 14:52.14 | Lopeppeppy | ~hold bluspacecow |
| 14:52.14 | purl | ACTION Embraces bluspacecow in a giant bear hug. Then gets bored and uses bluspacecow as a chew toy. |
| 14:52.20 | Lopeppeppy | Nom nom. |
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| 15:00.33 | Unkle | station |
| 15:01.19 | bluspacecow | master! |
| 15:07.01 | Lopeppeppy | snorgles Unkle. |
| 15:08.42 | Vladinator | aah now I know why you can't queue BG while flying |
| 15:08.51 | Vladinator | there was an exploit a hwile ago that involved flight paths and BG queues :P |
| 15:09.01 | Vladinator | so probably fixed it bysimply disabling BG queue while flying, lazy ;D |
| 15:12.34 | Vladinator | QuestPointer should not directly open the map, but use ShowUIPanel |
| 15:12.51 | Vladinator | talking to you, Kemayo :d |
| 15:13.37 | Vladinator | happens when I click the icons on the minimap ;) |
| 15:13.43 | Vladinator | the quest icon for instance "?" |
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| 15:25.41 | Lopeppeppy | Bwa-ha-ha, fear my power as I learn to destroy someone's virtual machine with php! |
| 15:26.06 | alestane | Is that the goal? |
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| 15:28.03 | Unkle | is trying not to die from the sneezing and the coughing and the drippy sinuses. |
| 15:29.38 | bluspacecow | unimpressive peppy |
| 15:29.48 | bluspacecow | i can destroy someones VM with just a napkin |
| 15:29.55 | Lopeppeppy | Well, I can only hope that I learn to break things, alestane. |
| 15:30.14 | Lopeppeppy | bluspacecow, you should give Unkle your napkin. He's allergic to fresh air, and sunshine, and fun. |
| 15:30.35 | bluspacecow | *giefs Deadly VM destroying napkin to Unkle* |
| 15:33.17 | Unkle | I am not allergic to fun! I just overdosed is all! |
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| 15:36.15 | bluspacecow | nein |
| 15:36.25 | bluspacecow | Torhal is home in bed! |
| 15:36.33 | Lopeppeppy | Hah. Allergic, like the boy in Addams Family Values. |
| 15:36.49 | karl_w_w | new curse client hates me :( |
| 15:38.50 | Lopeppeppy | Don 't take it personally. the new curse client really hates everyone equally. |
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| 15:39.09 | karl_w_w | oh ok |
| 15:39.18 | Unkle | Yeah, pretty much. |
| 15:39.29 | karl_w_w | you've patched up my self confidence once again Lopeppeppy |
| 15:42.52 | bluspacecow | ah hah! |
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| 15:43.08 | bluspacecow | when you cross into a CRZ it appears you see a small flash of light around your toon |
| 15:43.30 | bluspacecow | its a small sparkle flash |
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| 15:43.32 | Mr_Rabies | when i cross into a CRZ it appears i see a large wall of lag around everywhere |
| 15:43.47 | snipe | Whats the name of that addon that display GUILD RANK in tooltip ? |
| 15:43.52 | MysticalOS | i just get a stutter when i cross into CRZ while it's probably refreshing everything |
| 15:43.52 | snipe | from other guilds |
| 15:44.04 | Unkle | If you turn into the Sandstone Drake and a friend is being carried, and your CRZ, they get dismounted. |
| 15:44.27 | MysticalOS | well that's any passenger mount |
| 15:44.33 | MysticalOS | yeah it ejects passenger, or DCs them |
| 15:44.35 | MysticalOS | sometimes both |
| 15:45.10 | MysticalOS | flying passenger mounts are not safe right now, they kill people : |
| 15:49.18 | alestane | Lovely, someone's lynched a chair in Austin. |
| 15:50.09 | Lopeppeppy | A wooden chair? |
| 15:50.26 | alestane | No, a folding chair. |
| 15:50.49 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. That's all right then. I was afraid it was like the Chair of the Mathematics Department or someone else human. |
| 15:51.16 | alestane | No, it's apparently a reference to the empty chair that Clint Eastwood pretended to debate with at the RNC. |
| 15:51.32 | Unkle | Man, people really dug that bit. |
| 15:51.36 | Unkle | Comedy gold. |
| 15:52.57 | alestane | So, while Eastwood used the image to "trounce" Obama in debate, this guy (who has recently added the stars and stripes to his display) is springboarding off the same image to make a statement about the President and mob justice. |
| 15:53.35 | Unkle | The mob is not democracy. The mob is everything counter to democracy. |
| 15:53.58 | alestane | A creature with many limbs and no brain. |
| 15:55.09 | alestane | The man's entitled to his opinion, and he's entitled to state his opinion. He's done it very effectively. I'm entitled to be disgusted. |
| 15:55.24 | Lopeppeppy | Ah. So he's making a racial statement as well. Since the chair represents a person of mixed race, being lynched. Bring out the KKK and stuff. |
| 15:55.35 | alestane | Oh yes. |
| 15:56.20 | alestane | When someone called him to raise their concerns about such a display, he told them they could "go to hell and take Obama with you. If you don't like it, don't come down my street." |
| 15:57.42 | Unkle | Well, I hate to say it, but the "You don't like it, don't look/watch/listen/come around here no more" argument is the one nearly every argument about speech someone doesn't like boils down to. |
| 15:57.57 | Lopeppeppy | My opinions, let me show you them. |
| 16:02.30 | bluspacecow | My ass . Let me show you them |
| 16:02.32 | bluspacecow | :P |
| 16:02.42 | alestane | Pretty much. Trying to remember what someone said recently on Facebook. I think it was along the lines of "My desire to stay informed is at war with my desire to have any hope for the future." |
| 16:02.44 | bluspacecow | my mind goes to silly places sometimes |
| 16:02.59 | TC-Work | you have more than one bluspacecow? |
| 16:03.16 | bluspacecow | 14.578999666666666 actually |
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| 16:03.28 | Unkle | I maintain that the answer to speech you dislike is more speech, not silence. |
| 16:03.44 | Unkle | And I routinely discover that I don't like lots of speech. |
| 16:03.44 | Maldivia | go TL2... |
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| 16:06.17 | Lopeppeppy | Must... behave... |
| 16:06.41 | alestane | How must you behave, Peppy? |
| 16:06.49 | tmpdev | Hi guys! Please, help with one question: is there any way to detect type of harmful spell returned by UnitDebuff function? For example stun, root, silience, etc.? (Sory for my terrible english :$). I want detect silience and stun on my healer and annonce my group or raid about it, but not found another way to do it, except to store all mob's debufs ids... I think this not good idea... |
| 16:07.49 | alestane | You can determine the category (magic, curse, poison, disease), but not the effect, as far as I know, except by keeping a list. |
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| 16:10.41 | alestane | In case you missed it being disconnected, tmpdev: |
| 16:10.42 | alestane | You can determine the category (magic, curse, poison, disease), but not the effect, as far as I know, except by keeping a list. |
| 16:10.57 | foxlit | Have we developed the technology to send someone a figurative beer over the internet yet? |
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| 16:11.10 | Maldivia | (or doing "tooltip" scanning) |
| 16:11.18 | Ackis | foxlit: I want slapping technology first |
| 16:11.39 | bluspacecow | no we dont |
| 16:11.46 | bluspacecow | youll just use it to slap me for pleasure |
| 16:11.59 | Unkle | Um. actually foxlit you can subscribe to things like Beer of the Month club and ship to them (provided local law allows delivery of products containing boozmahol). |
| 16:12.15 | Ackis | :D |
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| 16:12.24 | Unkle | Ackis should fear punching, slapping, stabbing, shooting over the internet tech. |
| 16:12.25 | foxlit | Unkle: figurative beer need not be an alcoholic beverage :) |
| 16:12.47 | Unkle | Send them a fruit basket with drinks. |
| 16:13.05 | Dagmar | lots of places are shitty about that |
| 16:13.13 | Unkle | Of course all such options require you to have a shipping address. |
| 16:13.22 | foxlit | But suppose I wanted to do a (pathetically small) bug bounty scheme. |
| 16:13.25 | Dagmar | TN is one of them. You can't ship alcohol here becuase it would interfere with monopolies |
| 16:13.28 | bluspacecow | emails wont do |
| 16:14.29 | Dagmar | One good thing about having a bunch of rednecks in Senate... You can't talk to them about restricting the ability of people to make their own booze |
| 16:14.41 | Dagmar | They view that as a god-given right of every American |
| 16:14.42 | foxlit | Something like $1 for each bug report I consider valid. I wonder if there's some way to arrange that that (a) won't eat up all the cash (b) won't require me to learn accounting (c) would not impose significant geographical requirements on recipients. |
| 16:15.00 | Unkle | Dagmar lots of places have restrictive laws about it. *shakes fists* Puritans! Temperance Movement! |
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| 16:15.51 | alestane | ~staple tmpdev |
| 16:15.51 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples tmpdev quite well, and hands tmpdev to alestane |
| 16:16.04 | Unkle | foxlit If you're giving away money of any sort a) you have to account for it, b) it will eat more cash than you expect, c) taxing bodies want in on the act. |
| 16:16.51 | Maldivia | foxlit: or just donate to a charity in bug-finders name ? |
| 16:17.06 | Unkle | ^^ |
| 16:17.09 | foxlit | Unkle: all three are blatantly violated if I hand someone on the street a bill :) |
| 16:17.43 | Unkle | foxlit ahh... but that's different. cash exchanges in person aren't always "commerce." |
| 16:18.02 | Dagmar | Gifting someone money requires *they* report it to the taxing authorities, not you |
| 16:18.26 | Dagmar | It's only if you're selling something are you required to collect and pay sales tax |
| 16:18.38 | TC-Work | doesnt 'exchange' imply a trade of some kind? |
| 16:19.00 | foxlit | Maldivia: that's an out, but I imagine that'd be slightly less satisfying for the person on the receiving end. |
| 16:20.07 | Unkle | You could offer a "Beer at BlizzCon" Bounty. |
| 16:20.21 | foxlit | BlizzCon is in the US, though |
| 16:20.31 | foxlit | that's a significant geographical requirement :) |
| 16:20.43 | Unkle | Well, yes. |
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| 16:22.41 | foxlit | It'd be awesome if iTunes sold something like 1-song giftcards that weren't geographically bound. |
| 16:23.16 | Unkle | Actually, I think you can buy gift codes that are redeemable anywhere. |
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| 16:25.22 | Unkle | in fact, they have emailable gift codes. |
| 16:25.34 | foxlit | Unkle: can you link anything describing those? |
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| 16:25.37 | Unkle | so does amazon, and so does blizzard. |
| 16:25.47 | Unkle | http://www.apple.com/itunes/gifts/ |
| 16:26.22 | foxlit | gift cards "Valid only on iTunes Store for U.S. " and start at 15$ |
| 16:26.58 | karl_w_w | [00:26:26] [85:Larwood] has earned the achievement [Don't Want No Zombies on My Lawn]! |
| 16:27.01 | karl_w_w | blu's mad |
| 16:27.07 | Unkle | They must be doing geo-branching, 'cause I don't see any of that. Sorry. |
| 16:27.23 | foxlit | I followed a link. |
| 16:27.32 | foxlit | http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/giftcards/itunes/gallery?mco=MTM3NDc0MTQ |
| 16:28.08 | foxlit | gift certificates (wheh, same thing but different!) start at 10$ |
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| 16:28.51 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm. Water got into my salad container, and it's a mushy mess. Eeew. |
| 16:28.52 | Unkle | Sorry. I really thought I was on to something there - "Purchases from the iTunes Store are available only in Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, the United Kingdom, and the United States. The iTunes Store #1 music download store according to Nielsen SoundScan. See Terms of Sale." |
| 16:28.54 | foxlit | but are also region-locked. |
| 16:29.52 | foxlit | The ToS on certificate purchase says "Gift stuff purchased in Denmark can only be redeemed in the iTunes Store in Denmark" |
| 16:30.25 | TC-Work | possibly http://www.visaeurope.com/en/cardholders/prepaid/gift_cards.aspx but i cant find any faq or rules on it |
| 16:31.04 | TC-Work | except for the link that says faq >.< |
| 16:31.35 | foxlit | You can gift individual songs, which is closer to the monetary expenditure I want, but "Gifts can only be redeemed in the store country from which they were originated." |
| 16:32.36 | foxlit | Visa doesn't issue anything directly, so you'd have to find a local bank that would be willing to give you $1 electronic cards. |
| 16:33.06 | Unkle | I expect Amazon and PayPal would be equally restricted. |
| 16:33.11 | TC-Work | I missed the part about being in denominations of $1 |
| 16:33.34 | Unkle | Well, you could just do it as a contest I guess. |
| 16:33.53 | foxlit | TC-Work: if $5 makes it any easier... :) |
| 16:33.55 | Unkle | give the winner and Blizzard Store pet or something. |
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| 16:35.46 | foxlit | Unkle: can you purchase those from a different region? |
| 16:35.50 | Maldivia | give them a months free trial of netflix... heh |
| 16:36.25 | Mr_Rabies | mail them signed pictures of yourself |
| 16:36.44 | TC-Work | foxlit != Cairenn |
| 16:36.50 | Mr_Rabies | that's probably worth around a buck |
| 16:37.20 | Mr_Rabies | and make the picture's quality increase with the quality of each submission |
| 16:37.36 | foxlit | Hm, actually, paypal is okayish. |
| 16:37.41 | Mr_Rabies | for example, someone says HAY THIS IS BROKE, send them a blurry picture of you eating pizza, mostly off camera |
| 16:37.53 | zenzelezz | <TC-Work> foxlit != Cairenn -- I've hung around this channel for so many years, how come no-one told me this before? :( |
| 16:38.10 | foxlit | But have you seen both of us at the same time, ever? |
| 16:38.28 | zenzelezz | points to zenzio |
| 16:38.31 | zenzelezz | there's two of me |
| 16:38.34 | zenzelezz | you could easily fake it too |
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| 16:38.52 | Lopeppeppy | is suddenly interested! |
| 16:38.54 | TC-Work | zenzelezz: because you are not part of the soper seeket club |
| 16:38.57 | Unkle | foxlit I can't tell from the FAQ, but the store page allows me to change which region I want... |
| 16:39.01 | TC-Work | seekret* |
| 16:41.43 | alestane | What are you interested in now, Peppy? |
| 16:44.14 | Lopeppeppy | Cloning men. |
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| 16:44.53 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:44.58 | alestane | Hallelujah? |
| 16:45.07 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, that doesn't go well with my yogurt. |
| 16:45.36 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:59.24 | Fisker | why are you mad foxlit ? |
| 17:00.03 | Unkle | Lopeppeppy - Are you making a man, with blonde hair and a tan? |
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| 17:00.46 | Kaylin | make me a muscle man? |
| 17:03.21 | foxlit | Fisker: all that residual Fisker radiation. |
| 17:04.09 | Kaylin | He'll eat nutritious high protein, and swallow raw eggs... try to build up his shoulders, his chest, arms, and... legs. Such an effort if he only knew of my plan - in just seven days... (and six long nights) I can make you a (fag just like your dad) man! |
| 17:04.20 | Fisker | you shouldn't even be using itunes foxlit |
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| 17:05.40 | Krapsy | cant put stuff on iStuff without it |
| 17:05.58 | Fisker | i like how the iphone 5 is like a billion kr here |
| 17:06.01 | Fisker | atleast on one sup |
| 17:06.02 | Kaylin | what is that some fetish service? |
| 17:06.06 | Fisker | sup? |
| 17:06.11 | Fisker | i've played too much borderlands |
| 17:06.12 | Fisker | i mean shop |
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| 17:07.45 | Demoonic112 | hey |
| 17:07.56 | Demoonic112 | is this the wow help irc channel ? |
| 17:08.25 | Krapsy | what kind of help |
| 17:11.30 | karl_w_w | yes, Fisker is the chief helper, ask him |
| 17:13.00 | Fisker | eat shit and die karl_w_w |
| 17:13.19 | karl_w_w | it'll cost you |
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| 17:30.25 | karl_w_w | I can't get over people saying that FttH is bad because it's too fast and you have to rewire your whole house to handle it |
| 17:30.49 | Krapsy | FttH? |
| 17:32.51 | karl_w_w | fibre to the home |
| 17:36.35 | Dagmar | karl_w_w: Those people dont know what the fuck they're talking about |
| 17:36.37 | Dagmar | So fuck them |
| 17:36.58 | Dagmar | Just ask them if they rewired their entire house for their cablemodem. |
| 17:37.49 | Dagmar | If they want to get upset about gigabit ethernet, then they should have run cat6 in the walls to begin with |
| 17:38.09 | Dagmar | I'm *sure* they're not planning on running fiber through all the walls of their homes. |
| 17:41.27 | Lopeppeppy | Too fast. |
| 17:41.48 | Ackis | Fisker: is the BL2 season pass worth it? don't we already get one of those DLC for free? |
| 17:41.54 | Fisker | no |
| 17:41.57 | Fisker | and idk |
| 17:42.00 | Fisker | i got it for 10€ |
| 17:42.00 | Fisker | mad? |
| 17:42.09 | Ackis | no |
| 17:44.24 | Fisker | ok |
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| 17:45.26 | karl_w_w | Dagmar: you only need cat 5e for gigabit unless it's over 100m |
| 17:46.10 | karl_w_w | also, problem with saying fuck them is the opposition political party tell them to think that, and when they vote the clowns in they will take away my FttH |
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| 17:49.26 | Ackis | http://imgur.com/a/QGz96 |
| 17:54.58 | Dagmar | karl_w_w: What to do in that case is show in up in committee meetings and tell them "Fuck you" in person |
| 17:56.03 | Dagmar | undergL0 |
| 17:56.13 | kd3 | ...the hell? my credit limit went up but I haven't gotten any mail from the bank about it |
| 17:56.17 | Dagmar | bleh lame product name and wrong window |
| 17:56.28 | Dagmar | kd3: They wish to increase your credit-worthiness |
| 17:56.40 | Dagmar | ...so that you are a more attractive asset on their list of clients |
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| 18:11.55 | zenzelezz | I really wonder what movie title translators are smoking sometimes... "You only live twice" => "James Bond in Japan" (last bit in Norwegian of course) |
| 18:12.36 | mikma | zenzelezz: same goes with the translated finnish titles sometimes |
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| 18:16.29 | karl_w_w | what the fuck is the deal with millipedes? |
| 18:17.05 | zenzelezz | what about them? |
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| 18:17.44 | karl_w_w | they live for years, yet they are slow moving, non-poisonous, and their only defence is winding themselves into a spiral |
| 18:17.53 | karl_w_w | and what exactly is the point of them |
| 18:19.01 | zenzelezz | this annoys you? |
| 18:19.08 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 18:19.19 | karl_w_w | we have a lot of them around out house |
| 18:19.31 | karl_w_w | fuck knows where they come from |
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| 18:25.01 | mckenziemc | they decompose plant matter |
| 18:25.43 | karl_w_w | yes, so god knows why they came here |
| 18:26.17 | mckenziemc | your house? they don't know htere aren't any piles of leaves in your house :( |
| 18:26.19 | karl_w_w | they were here before we were, ie. they came here when this house was nothing but brick, sand, concrete and plastic |
| 18:26.33 | karl_w_w | not even any soil :P |
| 18:27.17 | mckenziemc | maybe they just want to be stepped on :-/ |
| 18:27.24 | karl_w_w | :P |
| 18:27.57 | karl_w_w | they tend to stay outside, and on walls or similar |
| 18:28.59 | karl_w_w | my only real concern is that 1 will crawl into my pc and short something :P |
| 18:29.18 | karl_w_w | they hide in warm dark places |
| 18:29.27 | mckenziemc | how exactly is it going to get into your pc o.o |
| 18:29.46 | karl_w_w | legs mckenziemc, legs :P |
| 18:30.06 | mckenziemc | legs won't help it fit through vent holes |
| 18:30.24 | karl_w_w | they're only the width of a narrow shoelace |
| 18:30.56 | mckenziemc | ah, i guess you have small millipedes there :p |
| 18:31.19 | karl_w_w | this species is at least |
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| 18:34.42 | karl_w_w | google suggests they are black portuguese millipedes. bloody foreigners |
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| 18:39.23 | karl_w_w | hmm apparently these millipedes are attracted to light |
| 18:39.56 | Dagmar | Time to start smashing all the light bulbs then |
| 18:40.42 | karl_w_w | or set up a trap, apparently that works :P |
| 18:42.49 | karl_w_w | sleeps |
| 18:43.44 | Dagmar | Napalm works. |
| 18:46.15 | Ackis | this is an amusing wedding photo: http://i.imgur.com/7klNS.jpg |
| 18:48.21 | Kaylin | hah |
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| 18:52.16 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, that might be part of the "wedding party the morning after" trend of photo shoots that are in style lately. Dress back up and do what you would normally do in the morning. |
| 18:52.58 | alestane | That's more tasteful than what I thought when I first read that. |
| 18:53.27 | Lopeppeppy | Some aren't very tasteful at all, alestane, as you can imagine. |
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| 19:07.40 | alestane | http://i.imgur.com/b3jwV.jpg?1 How does anyone justify putting the words "Cats love it!" on such packages? |
| 19:09.05 | End_ | that cat does not look like he loves it |
| 19:09.42 | End_ | Cats tolerate it! maybe |
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| 19:23.13 | Fisker | so foxlit |
| 19:23.16 | Fisker | getting an iphone 5? |
| 19:23.17 | Fisker | http://www.dustinhome.dk/product/5010653037/apple-iphone-5-16gb-black-ulast/ |
| 19:23.24 | Fisker | only ~1100€ |
| 19:23.41 | foxlit | At that price, you'd literally have to be Fisker. |
| 19:24.55 | Fisker | why mad foxlit |
| 19:25.30 | Ackis | lulz TMNT reference in BL2 (Fisker) |
| 19:25.42 | Fisker | old Ackis |
| 19:26.17 | Unkle | Oh man - Hostess chocolate covered mini-donuts. So bad, but taste so good. |
| 19:26.31 | Lopeppeppy | Unkle! That is not edible, spit it out right now! |
| 19:26.38 | pompy | Unkle: truth. |
| 19:26.49 | Lopeppeppy | Jeeez. A girl goes through the trouble of sending you radioactive candy, and you eat Hostessi? |
| 19:26.54 | Unkle | I am not even going to feel guilty. |
| 19:27.13 | Unkle | And I loved radioactive candy. nom nom nom |
| 19:27.21 | cbreak | tritium or radium? |
| 19:27.24 | cbreak | or something heavier? |
| 19:27.41 | Lopeppeppy | I dunno. It was green and gooooooopity. |
| 19:27.48 | Lopeppeppy | Therefore it was radioactive by my book. |
| 19:28.00 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:28.08 | Unkle | I think she sent me trace amounts of plutonium, and I excpect to die of heavy metal poisoning before the radiation gets me. |
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| 19:29.01 | Lopeppeppy | Bwa-ha-ha. I included each item with loving tenderness! |
| 19:30.07 | Unkle | You can cry most beautifully at my funeral. *nod* You can tell everyone how heart-broken you are and how life-like I looked at the viewing. |
| 19:31.07 | pompy | http://www.facebook.com/Warcraft/posts/490873937591469 |
| 19:33.12 | Unkle | I washed them down with cranberry juice. |
| 19:33.43 | Lopeppeppy | Well of course you will look life-like, preserved by radium and berylium and stuff. And... cranberry juice with Hostessi, you king of mis-matched messages. |
| 19:34.44 | Unkle | I haven't been well. I wanted comfort foods. |
| 19:34.58 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, well, that's right. Play on, MacDuff. |
| 19:35.06 | Unkle | Or more specifically, I wanted foods mom wouldn't let me have. |
| 19:35.19 | Lopeppeppy | Ut set viverra justo < my favorite line from lorem ipsum |
| 19:38.20 | Unkle | Dear Amazon - the RJ-45 connectors are all well and good, but I need the Cat6 cable I ordered with them before these are useful. |
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| 19:38.36 | Kaylin | haha |
| 19:40.36 | Lopeppeppy | If you gave me your cold, Unkle, I will be very wroth. |
| 19:40.58 | Kaylin | oo good word :) |
| 19:41.23 | Unkle | Giving you my cold over the internet seems more awesome than slapping or delivering a beer. |
| 19:43.31 | Lopeppeppy | That increases your rawrness factor by tenfold, Unkle, once I'm not angry anymore. :) |
| 19:48.23 | Dagmar | Awesome |
| 19:48.41 | Dagmar | I completley can't do anything work-related for at least the rest of the day, if not the rest of the week |
| 19:49.10 | Kaylin | any of you have the latest version of war3:tft for windows? friend needs the executable, lost it after a system restore |
| 19:49.13 | Dagmar | A certain department has completely lost their goddamn minds about what Change Management is supposed to be about |
| 19:49.38 | Dagmar | Kaylin: Only on a DVD which is unfortunately offline at the moment |
| 19:49.44 | Kaylin | :( |
| 19:49.47 | Dagmar | *may* be warezable |
| 19:49.56 | Kaylin | yea but that's sketchy and virusy |
| 19:50.04 | Kaylin | figured I'd ask you guys |
| 19:50.45 | g0urra | did he attach the cd key to his battle.net account? |
| 19:50.53 | Dagmar | So... the reason I can't do anything is that Dept A (which is now our customer) has called foul on an "unmanaged change" which amounted to updating banner text in /etc/issue |
| 19:51.12 | Dagmar | g0urra: I'm assuming they didn't tie it to battle.net, but if that's a mistaken assumption then LOL |
| 19:51.36 | Lopeppeppy | Change Management is a way to scream about feeling like someone stepped on some else's toes. I got that earlier this week, and pointed out that I'd sent the required notice, and if he couldn't read it, that was his problem. :) |
| 19:51.39 | g0urra | 'cause I attached my game/CD key to my account and I can download it any time I want |
| 19:52.09 | Dagmar | So, since something which is a zero-functional-impact "change" to internal-use-only systems now apparently requires Change Management, I will be filing a Change Management request for everything I fix, upgrade, adjust, or deploy |
| 19:52.17 | Dagmar | I could have already filed nine of these today alone |
| 19:52.38 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly, Dagmar. 'cause someone got their panties in a bunch. |
| 19:53.05 | Dagmar | I'm quite certain I can dwarf the content in what they currently review (and occasionally bitch at me about making trivial changes) with what I do alone, because I do *lots* |
| 19:53.43 | Dagmar | I'd really like to know who got their panties in a bunch about it |
| 19:53.51 | Dagmar | Depending on who it is, I can probably change their minds |
| 19:53.55 | Lopeppeppy | I got kicked out of the ticketing system because I generated too many tickets. :) |
| 19:54.18 | Dagmar | If it was the security team, well, half of them would have trouble writing on a high school level. |
| 19:54.28 | Cairenn | You guys may have already seen this, but it's one of the coolest viral campaigns I've ever seen |
| 19:54.29 | Cairenn | http://www.byzantiumtests.com/ |
| 19:54.59 | Dagmar | ...and this is now *more* useful to them since users are no longer being presented with an unconcionable contract in that the banner now appears _before_ you login instead of after (which makes it not legally binding) |
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| 19:56.42 | Dagmar | Cairenn: This thing is fuckin' WEIRD |
| 19:57.03 | Dagmar | I approve |
| 19:57.11 | Dagmar | It jus flat out devolves into surrealism |
| 19:57.15 | Cairenn | Heh |
| 19:57.27 | Dagmar | "i touching you" <-- genius! |
| 19:57.29 | Cairenn | As I said, one of the coolest ones I've ever see |
| 19:58.46 | Dagmar | Clearly it's very perceptive for having placed me in the top 20%. lol |
| 19:59.19 | Cairenn | lol |
| 19:59.22 | Dagmar | All this for a program schedule app? |
| 19:59.32 | Dagmar | These people are mad |
| 19:59.33 | Cairenn | It gets better |
| 20:00.02 | Cairenn | It's just crazy awesome |
| 20:00.18 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:00.39 | Lopeppeppy | I love it. |
| 20:00.42 | Dagmar | I don't want men in a van snatching me off the street again |
| 20:00.47 | Dagmar | ...and that's exactly how this shit starts. |
| 20:00.49 | Unkle | I wonder how many of us get a "top 20%" result? |
| 20:00.57 | Dagmar | Unkle: Probably everyone |
| 20:01.17 | Lopeppeppy | So you can be confident and continue to the next step! |
| 20:02.02 | Dagmar | ...which is where they start asking questions no one is supposed to know the answer to, and if you get them right anyway, someone comes to collect you for further analysis. |
| 20:02.23 | Unkle | Dagmar - Nah, the aliens already probed you. |
| 20:02.27 | Lopeppeppy | Sadly, it goes into things that require audio and video, so I only did the first two. But interesting. |
| 20:02.37 | kd3 | welp, I'm in the top 20 too |
| 20:02.38 | kd3 | heh |
| 20:06.49 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 20:06.52 | Fisker | not so hey Dagmar |
| 20:07.00 | Dagmar | Unkle: The aliens are at least polite enough to not leave marks and concientous enough to inhibit short term memory for the duration |
| 20:07.14 | Dagmar | Shadowy gov't agencies just don't care. |
| 20:08.32 | Dagmar | So, probably not actually a mob glitch but rather another user expecting to be able to continue to use "useful" glitches |
| 20:08.40 | Dagmar | @#$@ wronchan |
| 20:14.08 | Maldivia | Unkle: everyone gets 20%, then after next test you're at 10%, etc |
| 20:15.41 | Dagmar | You know... if they really push me on this, I think I can probably keep most of hte office from getting anythging done for the rest of the month |
| 20:17.24 | Dagmar | Since the item in question was the change of a login banner, if they want a change announcement sent to stakeholders, I can casually mention to a few hundred people or so that violation of the terms of the AUP may constitute a felony, and explain that the University does reserve the right to pursue such violations to the fullest extent of the law, which would include a potential fifteen years in prison and hundred thousand dollars in fines |
| 20:17.43 | Dagmar | That should keep them busy gibbering and gossiping for several days |
| 20:18.32 | Dagmar | Especially the people who never even use those accounts and will react badly to being explicitly told "We reserve the right to view every bit of activity you perform on our network" |
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| 20:31.19 | Maldivia | kd3: did you finish all 5 tests? |
| 20:31.29 | kd3 | nah, I stopped after the first |
| 20:35.49 | Maldivia | it's the 5th that really plays mind games with you :) |
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| 21:08.16 | zenzelezz | so I'm watching this trailer, and near the middle I start thinking "... are those reapers?" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wNDMKYQi2I&feature=plcp |
| 21:18.57 | Semlar | so do all new movies use that distracting brrrrrraaaaaaaaaaap sound now |
| 21:19.12 | zenzelezz | apparently |
| 21:20.07 | foxlit | "While in Battle mode, the hellion is now classified as a Biological unit." |
| 21:20.25 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 21:20.28 | zenzelezz | but only in battle? |
| 21:20.44 | foxlit | yep |
| 21:21.16 | Semlar | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sftuxbvGwiU&feature=player_detailpage#t=20s brraaaaaaaaap |
| 21:26.16 | Maldivia | Semlar: don't seems to be appearing in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwgQjfg0hZw -- which I'm getting kind of excited for this christmas :) |
| 21:26.26 | Semlar | oh good |
| 21:27.45 | Unkle | Ah, finally my box of cable has arrived. |
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| 21:36.05 | zenzelezz | I love the smell of cables in the morning... smells like... fibre optics |
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| 21:49.07 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 22:00.48 | Arrowmaster | i found a fun toy in BL2 already http://imgur.com/Y2oSB |
| 22:04.04 | Vladinator | back form work, anything I've missed that you know I like? :P |
| 22:04.23 | Thunder_Child | A light S&M? |
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| 22:09.56 | Kraps | mitch0, yo |
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| 22:10.48 | Vladinator | npcscanner doesn't always fire properly, especially in cross realm zones :/ |
| 22:11.07 | Vladinator | Lady Vespia, no alert, not in cache before this. |
| 22:19.01 | Arrowmaster | i keep running out of ammo |
| 22:21.04 | xyphoid | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/236761-appear-offline-option-coming-soon-to-battlenet/ WOOOOOO |
| 22:23.41 | foxlit | Going to be awkward when you physically run into someone who's hiding from you. |
| 22:24.55 | nevcairiel | it only works for battle.tag or realid anyhow, if you have a character on the friendlist, it does still show it |
| 22:25.00 | Unkle | No more so than when that happens in any other context. |
| 22:25.16 | nevcairiel | or wait, the text says it works for character friends too |
| 22:25.17 | nevcairiel | how odd |
| 22:25.24 | nevcairiel | i thought it didnt say that earlier |
| 22:25.27 | foxlit | nevcairiel: that's a corner they painted themselves into |
| 22:25.37 | foxlit | but that clause was always there since they put up the announcement. |
| 22:26.16 | Vladinator | npcscan uses "unit:0xF53%05X00000000" while the game uses "unit:0xF1300F68000772AC" (a Wrathtail Priestess mob) |
| 22:26.20 | Vladinator | maybe change in syntax? |
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| 22:27.13 | nevcairiel | did anyone ever figure out what the first three digits really mean? |
| 22:27.56 | nevcairiel | the third is apparently a type mask, but the first two are unknown |
| 22:28.30 | nevcairiel | which is the only difference |
| 22:28.38 | nevcairiel | anyhow, switch to silverdragon already |
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| 22:45.02 | Vladinator | I doubt it does mob detection any different :P |
| 22:45.17 | Vladinator | but why is the old F53 and now it says F13? |
| 22:45.19 | Vladinator | on the flag in front |
| 22:45.24 | Vladinator | cross realm related? |
| 22:47.05 | Arrowmaster | a bowl of lasanga appeared on my desk, i dont remember anybody bring it in |
| 22:47.33 | Kemayo | There's speculation that the first two are a battlegroup id, for players. |
| 22:47.52 | Thunder_Child | First use of a teleporter, port lasanga into some unsuspecting persons desk |
| 22:48.05 | Thunder_Child | though why a bowl i am unsure |
| 22:50.17 | Kaylin | perhaps it did not cool first and was still quite molten? |
| 23:05.15 | Vladinator | nevcairiel: if interested |
| 23:05.19 | Vladinator | 0xF1301F4F00004D9E:Ashenvale Sentinel |
| 23:05.19 | Vladinator | 0xF1301F4F000008C9:Ashenvale Sentinel |
| 23:05.19 | Vladinator | 0xF1301F4F000008CC:Ashenvale Sentinel |
| 23:05.19 | Vladinator | 0xF5301F4F0003B6D6:Ashenvale Sentinel |
| 23:05.35 | Vladinator | same npc but different flag prefixes |
| 23:05.43 | Vladinator | F5 is normal F1 is perhaps cross realm? |
| 23:07.56 | durcyn | they both come out to unit id 8015, what's the actual issue? |
| 23:08.40 | Kemayo | He said the alert's not firing sometimes. |
| 23:10.23 | Vladinator | the rare npc scanners use the F53 version |
| 23:10.29 | Vladinator | but I am seeing the F13 one in the combatlog atm |
| 23:10.31 | Vladinator | :) |
| 23:10.42 | Kemayo | The 3 will always be the same -- it's the npc type. |
| 23:10.56 | Kemayo | It's the F1/F5 which are the actual changing parts. |
| 23:11.00 | Vladinator | yes |
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| 23:18.04 | Kemayo | Testing the cache for a unit which shows up with the F1 prefix, using the F5 prefix for the test, shows it as being in the cache. |
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| 23:19.55 | Kemayo | In fact, I just went off and found a genuine rare which I'd not seen before, and cache triggering worked. |
| 23:20.11 | Kemayo | (In SilverDragon, at least.) |
| 23:22.59 | Kemayo | I'm not debugging why NPCScan isn't working for you. :P |
| 23:30.27 | Vladinator | go to zones with cross realm support |
| 23:31.43 | Vladinator | wonder what F13 and F53 mean, the 1 and 5 :p |
| 23:32.44 | Vladinator | players show 07 and 05 as prefix so not sure how you can figure out cross realm or realm players, except the "-" in the name ofc ^^ |
| 23:35.40 | Vladinator | btw it's funny how nevcairiel and Kemayo want me to use SilverDragon when the point isn't what addon but the unit detecting we all use, it's the same in both addons :P I've experienced alerts to work too but not always ;) so working to figure that out |
| 23:35.50 | Vladinator | not here to promote the better addon or anything lol |
| 23:36.48 | Vladinator | F14 looks like pets |
| 23:41.47 | Semlar | um |
| 23:42.25 | Vladinator | this is odd |
| 23:42.41 | Adys | Vladinator: its possible one of these was spawned differently than the others |
| 23:43.05 | Vladinator | maybe |
| 23:43.17 | Vladinator | dig this |
| 23:43.32 | Semlar | the third character represents the unit type |
| 23:44.00 | Vladinator | how about the 2nd? |
| 23:44.10 | Semlar | i don't know what the first two represent |
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| 23:44.28 | pompy | Vladinator: Kemayo is the author of SilverDragon in case you didnt know! |
| 23:44.39 | Vladinator | I assumed so ^ ^ |
| 23:45.09 | Vladinator | my point was just that the scanning function is shared among all scanning addons so if its buggy on npcscan it must be on silverdragon too, unless some fix was implemented ^^ |
| 23:45.32 | Vladinator | and ye I've had alerts but also there are the situations when I don't have any, and I noticed that cross realm zones especially, I've yet to have an alert :P |
| 23:45.37 | Vladinator | was in darkshore at this time |
| 23:48.17 | Semlar | it's been postulated that the first two characters represent the battlegroup |
| 23:48.55 | Vladinator | testing the two versions now, F13 and F53 |
| 23:49.05 | Semlar | but i don't see why that would even matter if you're scanning the cache for a unit |
| 23:49.06 | Vladinator | so far both return proper data when I use it on an npc I know and see in front of me |
| 23:49.11 | Vladinator | don't know |
| 23:52.46 | Vladinator | trying to figure this out, Ill get back to you :P |
| 23:53.58 | Semlar | have you seen the second character be anything other than 1 or 5 |
| 23:54.17 | Vladinator | so far 1 or 5 when it comes to npcs |
| 23:54.39 | Semlar | and is 1 always a unit on the local server? |
| 23:56.57 | Vladinator | that I am not certain yet :P |
