| 00:00.21 | *** join/#wowuidev Wa (~wa@50-125-176-55.drr01.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net) |
| 00:01.18 | Vladinator | I got internet when I was 15 or something :P |
| 00:01.38 | Dagmar | '92. |
| 00:01.44 | Dagmar | Bang-path mail addressing. |
| 00:02.04 | Vladinator | Stanzilla: I updated FLC again, hehe. |
| 00:02.13 | Vladinator | added battletag moving for realid friends |
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| 00:06.10 | Stanzilla | "moving"? |
| 00:07.00 | mckenziemc | ~dict move |
| 00:08.16 | Stanzilla | fu mckenziemc |
| 00:08.29 | mckenziemc | noty |
| 00:08.42 | p3lim | Hm, where is the SearchBoxTemplate created.. |
| 00:11.18 | g0urra | hm.. ace3 is giving me a buttload of errors |
| 00:11.33 | g0urra | overrideActionBarButton4:Show() |
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| 00:26.55 | Stanzilla | Vladinator: still using the old version atm but here's an error http://paste2.org/p/2174592 |
| 00:27.21 | Vladinator | hmm |
| 00:27.58 | Vladinator | that's weird |
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| 00:28.44 | Stanzilla | could be caused by lag or so |
| 00:29.06 | Stanzilla | I think it was when I opened the friends panel for the first time |
| 00:29.11 | Vladinator | the level was not a number value |
| 00:29.17 | Vladinator | hence the error |
| 00:29.33 | Vladinator | BNGetFriendToonInfo probably gave nil if it was a realid |
| 00:29.34 | Stanzilla | diablo/sc2 people? |
| 00:29.48 | Vladinator | those should be skipped, checks for WoW client |
| 00:30.03 | Stanzilla | some person logged out at the same moment I opened the panel |
| 00:30.08 | Stanzilla | so maybe that information was half gone |
| 00:30.37 | Vladinator | yes |
| 00:30.40 | Vladinator | that can happen I noticed too |
| 00:30.48 | Vladinator | added a BNGetNumFriendToons > 0 check to fix that |
| 00:30.57 | Vladinator | but apparently can give wrong too lol |
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| 00:32.32 | Vladinator | 1.5.3 is uploaded |
| 00:33.55 | Stanzilla | approved |
| 00:34.24 | Vladinator | lol are you approving on wowi? ;p |
| 00:34.48 | Stanzilla | nope, curse |
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| 00:34.54 | Vladinator | ah |
| 00:35.00 | Esamynn|work | ~poke Semlar |
| 00:35.00 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Semlar, pokes Semlar repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 00:35.07 | Semlar | sorry |
| 00:35.13 | Semlar | i can't help it! |
| 00:35.17 | Vladinator | ;) |
| 00:35.18 | Esamynn|work | ~staple Semlar |
| 00:35.18 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples Semlar quite well, and hands Semlar to esamynn|work |
| 00:35.38 | Semlar | is it spammy to reconnect? |
| 00:35.42 | Vladinator | nah |
| 00:35.43 | Esamynn|work | nah |
| 00:35.55 | Semlar | i really haven't used irc very much |
| 00:35.58 | p3lim | Anyone got a clue where SearchBoxTemplate is created? |
| 00:35.59 | Esamynn|work | I'm just hassling you |
| 00:36.03 | p3lim | Been looking for ages |
| 00:36.15 | p3lim | WTB search function on github |
| 00:36.41 | Semlar | uipaneltemplates? |
| 00:36.44 | Esamynn|work | p3lim^ |
| 00:36.46 | Ackis | pokemon has been ruined for me :'( |
| 00:37.04 | Stanzilla | why |
| 00:37.07 | Vladinator | SearchBoxTemplate is in UIPanelTemplate.xml |
| 00:37.08 | Esamynn|work | p3lim: a good search tool is your friend |
| 00:37.22 | Semlar | i pretty much just google the thing in quotes and put framexml in there and it usually finds it somewhere |
| 00:37.24 | Ackis | ash's voice actor got replaced in season 9 and I don't like the new one :( |
| 00:37.38 | Semlar | i'm lazy |
| 00:37.40 | p3lim | Thanks |
| 00:37.44 | Esamynn|work | ~fishslap Ackis |
| 00:37.44 | purl | ACTION slaps Ackis up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 00:38.29 | Semlar | ash is voiced by a woman |
| 00:38.37 | Ackis | I know |
| 00:38.42 | Vladinator | :P |
| 00:39.29 | Esamynn|work | wonders why Semlar know this |
| 00:39.57 | Ackis | isn't it common knowledge? |
| 00:40.26 | Esamynn|work | I would not have said so |
| 00:40.30 | Esamynn|work | not about Ash anyways |
| 00:40.34 | Esamynn|work | Bart Simpson... sure |
| 00:40.46 | Vladinator | You think Pokemon is ruined for you because Ash is voiced by a woman, but in reality you think Ashes voice is hot, but since it's a guy you just can't handle it... |
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| 00:40.56 | mckenziemc | wat |
| 00:41.18 | Ackis | Vladinator: no, I don't like the new voice actor (who is also a woman) |
| 00:41.27 | Vladinator | :P |
| 00:42.26 | Vladinator | how is the new version treating you, Stanzilla? |
| 00:43.27 | Stanzilla | I'd need to reload |
| 00:43.54 | Stanzilla | now I need to read the changelog for syntax |
| 00:44.25 | Vladinator | just added $B and coloring suffix T |
| 00:44.45 | Vladinator | oh also using "$B, " for example, the comma is stripped if it's non-realid friend |
| 00:44.51 | Vladinator | since $B is battletag/realid name |
| 00:45.18 | Stanzilla | I'm using ./flc syntax $BT ($NC) and offline real id friends are blank |
| 00:45.22 | Vladinator | gotta add a third syntax for realid, in reality need 4 syntaxes to cover all possibilities :P |
| 00:45.38 | Vladinator | offline friends are /flc syntax2 |
| 00:45.53 | Vladinator | by default, check /flc reset |
| 00:46.12 | Vladinator | the default options, that should properly show the list, just to make sure it works |
| 00:46.23 | Stanzilla | now using ./flc syntax2 $BT $NC |
| 00:46.25 | Stanzilla | looks fine :D |
| 00:46.51 | Stanzilla | but I'm sure that offline real id friends are not colored blue |
| 00:46.57 | Stanzilla | (in default ui) |
| 00:47.24 | Stanzilla | so ./flc syntax2 $B $NC is better |
| 00:47.58 | Vladinator | only exception is that offline people don't have their class color available, haven't added a cache system to keep track of that info yet. |
| 00:48.03 | Vladinator | it may be black |
| 00:48.08 | Stanzilla | yeah no problem |
| 00:48.13 | Vladinator | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:48.15 | Stanzilla | I don't care about the color if people are offlien anway |
| 00:48.16 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 00:48.37 | Stanzilla | next problem: I want () around toon names when it is a BNet friend but not when it is a wow friend |
| 00:48.39 | Stanzilla | how? |
| 00:48.48 | Vladinator | yeah, that I gotta expand upon |
| 00:48.51 | Vladinator | I think I need a UI :P |
| 00:49.12 | Vladinator | because I need 4 syntaxes, for online, offline wow friends and battlenet friends :P |
| 00:49.35 | Vladinator | I hate making UI's :( |
| 00:49.47 | Vladinator | takes hours to code simple ui :( |
| 00:49.49 | Vladinator | gui* |
| 00:54.55 | Vladinator | Stanzilla: hates me :( |
| 00:55.14 | Stanzilla | as I said |
| 00:55.18 | Stanzilla | worst user you can ever have |
| 00:55.23 | Stanzilla | ask all the other authors |
| 00:56.07 | Stanzilla | I kill people for 1px mistakes in addons |
| 00:56.15 | Vladinator | I hate wow pixels :( |
| 00:56.21 | Stanzilla | same |
| 00:56.38 | Stanzilla | they never work right on 16:9 resolutions |
| 00:58.04 | Vladinator | btw with the new pet trading thing, does exalted pets trading work for people that don't got exalted? :P |
| 00:58.05 | Ackis | Stanzilla: you're the worst user? |
| 00:58.10 | Stanzilla | Ackis: yes |
| 00:58.34 | Stanzilla | the best for the addon, the worst for author's nerves |
| 00:58.51 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 01:00.39 | Vladinator | I expanded my vendor filters dropdown to show/hide known stuff too :3 |
| 01:00.48 | Vladinator | and some other filters, haza! |
| 01:02.13 | Ackis | Stanzilla: use all of Torhal's addons please |
| 01:02.18 | Stanzilla | Ackis: no thank you |
| 01:02.24 | Stanzilla | I already use one |
| 01:02.25 | Stanzilla | thats enough |
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| 01:03.40 | Ackis | which one/ |
| 01:04.23 | Stanzilla | LibToast |
| 01:05.18 | Stanzilla | now the girl on skype fell asleep and is snoring like a real man >.< |
| 01:05.26 | Ackis | you should try all of his other ones and be a terrible user for him |
| 01:05.31 | Ackis | lol you put a girl to sleep |
| 01:05.36 | Stanzilla | good job eh? |
| 01:06.17 | Stanzilla | the question is, do I tell her when she wakes up? |
| 01:06.17 | Vladinator | maybe it's because she is a real man |
| 01:07.15 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 01:07.26 | Vladinator | just messing with you :) |
| 01:07.34 | Stanzilla | I know :p |
| 01:07.43 | Ackis | nothing wrong with that |
| 01:07.57 | Stanzilla | Ackis: are you a camel hoarder, yet? |
| 01:09.20 | Ackis | yup |
| 01:09.26 | Ackis | only one I don't have is posidous (sp?) |
| 01:09.27 | batbot | Ackis, nothing found. |
| 01:09.32 | Ackis | shut up batbot |
| 01:09.52 | Stanzilla | damn you |
| 01:09.59 | Stanzilla | can't find a statue for the life of me |
| 01:10.02 | Ackis | I have TLPD and Aeonoxx |
| 01:10.07 | Stanzilla | and poseidus you can buy |
| 01:10.08 | Stanzilla | so no problem |
| 01:10.10 | Stanzilla | and same |
| 01:10.11 | Ackis | wanna hear something really funny Stanzilla? |
| 01:10.18 | Stanzilla | + I got alysrazor mount today |
| 01:10.20 | Stanzilla | yes pls |
| 01:10.24 | Ackis | I got TLPD and 8 hours later I got the camel hoarder |
| 01:10.36 | Stanzilla | I actually knew that |
| 01:10.45 | Ackis | stalker |
| 01:10.56 | Ackis | since you know so much about me, what am I wearing? |
| 01:10.56 | Stanzilla | you talked about it on irc |
| 01:11.02 | Stanzilla | red panties |
| 01:11.07 | Ackis | :O |
| 01:12.11 | Stanzilla | see |
| 01:17.55 | Vladinator | ackis this feeling of acomplishment for farming rare spawns for many hours, I think we should dicuss that. |
| 01:18.27 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 01:21.22 | Stanzilla | I was camping TLPD for like 2 months or so |
| 01:22.05 | Vladinator | I am proud to say I never camped those ;D |
| 01:27.09 | Vladinator | purl, do you 'd love to eat you up! |
| 01:27.09 | purl | yes, I 'd love to eat you up!. |
| 01:27.16 | Vladinator | oh how kinky... |
| 01:27.19 | mckenziemc | o.o |
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| 01:33.02 | Vladinator | wub wub wub |
| 01:33.07 | Semlar | welcome to the machine |
| 01:34.07 | Vladinator | BOM, wub wub wub, BOM, wub... |
| 01:34.08 | Vladinator | :3 |
| 01:35.46 | Vladinator | all sleeping? |
| 01:47.35 | g0urra | yes |
| 01:49.04 | Stanzilla | not yet |
| 01:50.49 | Vladinator | this is a nightmare... |
| 01:50.55 | Vladinator | selling over 1000 auctions of stuff I don't need |
| 01:51.03 | Vladinator | I hate to loot it all back in the mailbox LOL |
| 01:51.07 | Vladinator | will take me hour :P |
| 01:51.34 | Vladinator | 300g spent on deposits only :P |
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| 02:12.29 | Primer | So fellow SPs...DP only on 3 orbs or whenever available? |
| 02:13.33 | Vladinator | :( |
| 02:15.43 | Stanzilla | 3 orbs |
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| 02:24.43 | Vladinator | how can I pass a slash cmd? |
| 02:25.00 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/Creating_a_slash_command |
| 02:25.03 | kd3 | that ? |
| 02:35.30 | Primer | ok, I must be missing something |
| 02:35.48 | Primer | because DP lasts 6 seconds, and it takes quite a while before 3 orbs come up |
| 02:36.02 | Primer | Unless there's something else I can use to gain orbs other than MB |
| 02:38.56 | Stanzilla | no you cant and it sucks |
| 02:38.57 | Stanzilla | hard |
| 02:39.24 | Vladinator | wanted to pass "/genie work" but used Genie:PreWorks() hehe :P |
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| 03:23.19 | MentalPower | ok, what does disable version warning do on wowi? |
| 03:31.25 | MentalPower | nm, found what it is |
| 03:42.02 | starlon | So I have two smoldering spiders and two work pups in my book. |
| 03:42.10 | starlon | kisses Blizzard. |
| 03:42.27 | starlon | s/work/worg/ |
| 03:47.32 | mckenziemc | and? |
| 03:48.27 | Semlar | you can have multiple of the same pet |
| 03:57.22 | kd3 | some pets, most pets, rather |
| 03:57.39 | kd3 | just not things like achievement/one-time-event pets |
| 04:05.25 | durcyn | there's supposedly a limit of three of the normal ones, but it's not being enforced yet |
| 04:08.11 | TMc51 | gah, its way too obvious who came from wow and never even played Guold Wars before. They're all horribly bad players. D: |
| 04:08.18 | TMc51 | *guild |
| 04:08.45 | Thunder_Child | hey, i am not a horribad player |
| 04:09.46 | TMc51 | Okay, maybe not all, but definitely most. So many awful players I've come across lately. = |
| 04:10.45 | TMc51 | I've even shut off the main chat wi ndow and only use guild chat due to so much complaining about it being hard. |
| 04:11.26 | Thunder_Child | hard? wtf is hard about it? granted i am only ~12 since i keep trying out new char's |
| 04:11.59 | TMc51 | its not hard at all if you at least put some effort into figruing out how your abilities work. |
| 04:12.28 | TMc51 | people are complaining how hard things hit. too many people seem to be trying ot kill stuff while standing still. |
| 04:14.25 | MentalPower | Cairenn: auctioneer is updated om wowi and waiting approval on curse (ironic I know). |
| 04:14.31 | Cairenn | k |
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| 04:21.49 | Thunder_Child | of cource now i have this huge desire to play like shit to make TMc51 rage. |
| 04:26.03 | Arrowmaster | this dub actually sounds rather decent http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnbwFiZf9vg |
| 04:26.07 | Arrowmaster | kd3: ^^ |
| 04:41.34 | MentalPower | Cairenn: its (finally) up on curse |
| 04:41.39 | Cairenn | k |
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| 05:14.31 | Neffi | Not many other people wasting their Friday night in IRC, eh? |
| 05:17.30 | Thunder_Child | weekends are usually quiet in here |
| 05:17.41 | Thunder_Child | i suspect long weekend are even more quiet |
| 05:18.26 | Thunder_Child | weekends* |
| 05:19.49 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 05:27.47 | Arrowmaster | the regulars are always here though |
| 05:28.29 | Thunder_Child | Not having a life helps lots |
| 05:29.39 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 05:46.28 | AcidWeb | Im blind or curse dont have option to send email notification when somebody add comment to your addon. |
| 05:50.36 | Arrowmaster | i dont think it does, or it doesnt usually work, jnwhiteh is always bitching about that |
| 05:53.22 | AcidWeb | My money's on the second |
| 05:53.36 | AcidWeb | Because i remember i recive them some time ago. |
| 05:54.02 | AcidWeb | And they just... stopped coming. |
| 06:08.12 | Esamynn | AcidWeb: the option is there |
| 06:08.41 | Esamynn | I know because I have it turned on atm |
| 06:11.39 | Arrowmaster | i broke reddit :( |
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| 06:17.00 | AcidWeb | Esamynn: Where? :-) |
| 06:18.06 | Esamynn | I didn't say I knew how to turn it on :P |
| 06:18.09 | Fisker | lol |
| 06:18.25 | Fisker | how the fuck is apple going to sue samsung for the slide to unlock patent on the sgs3? |
| 06:18.51 | nevcairiel | its apple, they'll just present some BS and the jury will buy it |
| 06:19.30 | Fisker | oh yeah |
| 06:21.54 | Arrowmaster | did you see that interview with the jury foreman? |
| 06:22.51 | Arrowmaster | he said they ruled the prior art against apple wasnt prior art because the old code wasnt able to run on the new hardware |
| 06:22.56 | Arrowmaster | or some bullshit |
| 06:23.17 | Arrowmaster | samsung needs to get that declared a mistrial |
| 06:23.18 | nevcairiel | a jury of normal people just cant judge a tech trial like that |
| 06:23.35 | nevcairiel | they have no clue what they are judging about |
| 06:23.47 | Arrowmaster | the jury foreman was a tech guy, with a patent apple is likely infringing, but hes a fucking moron |
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| 06:45.20 | Xinhuan | i can tell you i receive an email for every comment posted on any addon of mine on curse |
| 06:45.42 | Xinhuan | ^that's for AcidWeb |
| 06:45.49 | AcidWeb | hmm |
| 06:46.07 | Xinhuan | though i don't know where the setting is |
| 06:46.08 | nevcairiel | so do i, but i made a rule to delete them automatically because the option to turn it off didnt work : D |
| 06:46.30 | Xinhuan | its also of note that i do NOT receive any emails if any comment is posted on the wowace page for it |
| 06:46.37 | Xinhuan | only the curse ones lol |
| 06:46.44 | nevcairiel | for wowace i know where the option is |
| 06:48.36 | Xinhuan | sigh it'll take me another week to fix all my addons if i fix one per day |
| 06:49.14 | nevcairiel | so fix one per hour and not one per day |
| 06:49.32 | Xinhuan | lol that's not possible |
| 06:49.44 | Xinhuan | i have to pore over every default UI change and make sure i didn't overlook anything |
| 06:50.50 | nevcairiel | just make sure your addon works, dont try to find potential bugs |
| 06:51.04 | Xinhuan | i have OCD |
| 06:51.17 | Xinhuan | when i make minecraft buildings, they have to be symmetrical! |
| 06:53.50 | d87 | maybe "Receive PM Notification" from curse.com profile page also toggles notification about comments |
| 06:54.18 | Semlar | OCD huh? how does this make you feel http://i.imgur.com/r4aee.jpg |
| 06:54.33 | Esamynn | ~poke Semlar |
| 06:54.33 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Semlar, pokes Semlar repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 06:54.53 | TMc51 | Mild OCD here, and that would bug me to no end. |
| 06:55.46 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/L6tlI.jpg |
| 06:56.30 | TMc51 | dafuq? |
| 06:56.46 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/EsdAR.jpg |
| 06:57.16 | Xinhuan | omg Semlar |
| 06:57.18 | Xinhuan | what the heck is that |
| 06:57.35 | Semlar | it's an addon i'm working on |
| 06:57.41 | Semlar | it's a maaaaaaaap |
| 06:57.48 | Xinhuan | what does it do heheh - google style maps? |
| 06:57.56 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/SlyFA.jpg |
| 06:58.05 | Xinhuan | cartographer3 used to do it, and one or two other addons like carbonite |
| 06:58.13 | TMc51 | fortunately, you dont have severe OCD, or you'd have sliced your wrists open having to work on that. |
| 06:58.32 | Semlar | actually the scale is slightly off and it's bothering me |
| 06:58.42 | Semlar | i haven't fixed it yet |
| 06:58.55 | Xinhuan | that doesn't quite answer me though, is it meant to be google style? :P |
| 06:59.04 | Xinhuan | or just a stitched map |
| 06:59.33 | Semlar | it's a map you can scroll around on and zoom in and out |
| 07:00.05 | Xinhuan | will it replace the default world map |
| 07:00.12 | Semlar | yeah it's just going to replace everything |
| 07:00.30 | Xinhuan | you're going to have to work out how to let addons display icons on your map then :P |
| 07:00.47 | Xinhuan | if its going to be a replacement |
| 07:01.02 | Semlar | i'll probably hook it into the world map and make it behave the same way |
| 07:01.16 | Xinhuan | addons like gathermate/gatherer/routes/tomtom/note type addons |
| 07:01.16 | Semlar | if i can figure it out |
| 07:01.31 | Semlar | i should be able to just make them think my map is the normal one |
| 07:01.41 | Xinhuan | a lot of work ahead of you hehe |
| 07:02.06 | Semlar | no kidding |
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| 07:07.29 | karl_w_w | is guildwars2.com legit? |
| 07:08.07 | Semlar | i don't know, i got an email saying someone requested an email change for my guild wars account |
| 07:08.11 | Semlar | i don't have a guild wars account |
| 07:09.53 | Semlar | the domain looks legit to me |
| 07:11.30 | Semlar | if i had to guess, someone is trying to hack their server |
| 07:13.14 | Semlar | and they probably found a way to change the registration email of everyone who clicks on the link in the email their system sends out confirming it |
| 07:20.11 | MentalPower | Semlar: you could start by making astrolabe work with it (both gatherer & tomtom use it) |
| 07:20.26 | MentalPower | then work backwards from there |
| 07:21.49 | nevcairiel | MentalPower: he has a severe case of NIH syndrom |
| 07:22.18 | MentalPower | ... |
| 07:22.20 | MentalPower | fun! |
| 07:22.25 | MentalPower | good luck then |
| 07:22.28 | Dagmar | Semlar: Just look at the headers |
| 07:22.42 | Dagmar | Semlar: If the mail didn't originate on NCSoft's network, it's bogus |
| 07:23.14 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure the email is legit but someone is exploiting their system to change people's account information |
| 07:23.37 | Dagmar | Do you *have* a guild wars account? |
| 07:24.01 | Semlar | it's possible i registered one a long time ago for something, i just can't remember |
| 07:24.14 | Semlar | but i know 3 people so far that have gotten the email |
| 07:24.20 | Dagmar | Then go do a password recovery and change the password |
| 07:24.25 | MentalPower | I got the same one too |
| 07:24.45 | MentalPower | but I can't find a PW reset link for gw1 accounts |
| 07:24.54 | Semlar | i would not click the link they sent to "confirm" an email change |
| 07:24.57 | MentalPower | and the email was sent from the gw2 domain |
| 07:25.05 | MentalPower | didn't |
| 07:25.25 | Dagmar | MentalPower: What do you mean "gw2 domain"? |
| 07:25.34 | MentalPower | guildwars2.com |
| 07:26.33 | Arrowmaster | i tried to check my old email address that was used for my gw1 account when people started talking about this, i still havent seen any password reset stuff in it |
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| 07:26.41 | Arrowmaster | but it was filled with other crap |
| 07:27.14 | MentalPower | and the SPF records match the mail headers |
| 07:27.26 | Semlar | Received: from guildwars2.com (Unknown [64.25.40.122]) by mxa.mailgun.org |
| 07:27.26 | Dagmar | MentalPower: Domains do not send email |
| 07:27.32 | MentalPower | as in ncsoft uses mailgun.org as their email bouncer |
| 07:27.46 | Dagmar | Semlar: Okay. That's legit then |
| 07:27.47 | MentalPower | guildwars2.com.1800INTXT"v=spf1 include:mailgun.org ~all" |
| 07:27.51 | Dagmar | So the problem is real simple |
| 07:28.17 | Arrowmaster | we kill the spammer? |
| 07:28.18 | Semlar | we kill the batman |
| 07:28.19 | Dagmar | Someone is using address lists from gaming sites to walk the entire space of people who *might* be playing GW and GW2 |
| 07:28.37 | Dagmar | The first week I got two different password reset attempt emails |
| 07:28.39 | AcidWeb | And sadly that worked very well. |
| 07:29.02 | MentalPower | but why would ncsoft send reset emails to people that have never had guildwars accounts |
| 07:29.12 | AcidWeb | It had to be bad as they shutdown mail system some time ago to block possibility of clearing hacked char |
| 07:29.19 | Xinhuan | its probable that the password change verification is legit, and there is a bot out there that tries to change your password every 5 seconds, so moment you follow the link to "verify", your pw is lost |
| 07:29.38 | Semlar | yep |
| 07:29.41 | Dagmar | No, they're just trying to brute force their way into accounts |
| 07:29.50 | Dagmar | ...and probably leveraging password reuse |
| 07:30.21 | AcidWeb | Also remember that currently they disabled any password reminder options. |
| 07:30.23 | Xinhuan | i'll like to see them hack my account :P |
| 07:30.26 | Dagmar | Gaming sites get hacked all the time very quietly. |
| 07:30.30 | Xinhuan | it has a level 3 on it lol |
| 07:30.31 | Arrowmaster | yeah im wondering if theyve already gotten into my gw1 account because of password reuse |
| 07:30.42 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: *sigh* |
| 07:30.57 | Arrowmaster | what |
| 07:31.07 | MentalPower | actually, I guess I did sign up for something ncsoft a while back |
| 07:31.09 | Dagmar | Why would you be using the same password for any two sites? |
| 07:31.22 | Arrowmaster | because i dont have a good memory when it comes to passwords |
| 07:31.23 | Semlar | to keep things simple |
| 07:31.34 | MentalPower | Dagmar: some of us only started doing unique passwords relatively recently |
| 07:31.58 | Xinhuan | because passwords are painful to remember |
| 07:32.03 | MentalPower | ^^ |
| 07:32.18 | Xinhuan | would be a lot easier if companies bandied up together so that the same authenticator can be used for multiple games |
| 07:32.49 | Dagmar | I doubt that would be possible |
| 07:33.10 | Arrowmaster | im still not sure if my old email was being used to spam or if im getting a shit ton of bounceback spam from somebody spamming and faking the headers |
| 07:33.19 | Xinhuan | so far, the same authentaictor can be used for 3 blizzard games :P |
| 07:33.24 | Xinhuan | so it is definitely possible! lol |
| 07:33.34 | Semlar | i don't know why it wouldn't be possible |
| 07:33.44 | Xinhuan | but like i said, companies have to work together |
| 07:33.52 | Dagmar | Xinhuan: That's because they're all operated by the same organizational unit |
| 07:33.53 | Arrowmaster | theres a pam plugin for the google auth |
| 07:33.58 | Dagmar | They can trust *themselves* |
| 07:34.05 | Xinhuan | and the effort would probably be worth it over the customer manhours spent on restoring accounts |
| 07:34.14 | MentalPower | the mobile auth would be "simple" to integrate cross-companies |
| 07:34.18 | Dagmar | Don't expect say, Sony to trust someone else with the private keys needed for common auth |
| 07:34.18 | MentalPower | the dongle, not so much |
| 07:34.33 | Semlar | i just turned my bot into an authenticator |
| 07:34.49 | Semlar | it wasn't really that hard |
| 07:35.34 | Semlar | but it basically uses the same method the mobile one does |
| 07:35.48 | Semlar | i just don't have a smart phone |
| 07:43.05 | Esamynn | Semlar: I *am* the Batman |
| 07:43.21 | Esamynn | or at least, I was just knocking heads like him |
| 07:43.26 | Esamynn | (Arkham City) |
| 07:44.08 | Semlar | what's the simplest way to get the distance from a frame to one of the edges of its parent, call GetTop on both and subtract them? |
| 07:46.35 | Esamynn | good night |
| 07:46.44 | Semlar | night night |
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| 07:53.32 | Gorian | Hi, I am new to the lua, and I was hoping I could get someone to tell me how I would interpret an error report to figure out what all is wrong with some code. I thought I had a good understanding of it, but I'm not certain, so some 'official' instruction would be awesome :D (here's the smallest bit of code with an error I could find from a UI I am trying to fix/learn from http://pastebin.com/m51b6JSf) |
| 07:54.35 | Semlar | what's the value of NUM_SHAPESHIFT_SLOTS |
| 07:55.01 | nevcairiel | apparently not a number |
| 07:55.39 | Semlar | basically it's trying to count from 1 to probably nil |
| 07:56.30 | Gorian | ok, but how did you know that from the error report/code? |
| 07:56.39 | nevcairiel | it says there |
| 07:56.45 | Semlar | it says 'for' limit must be a number |
| 07:56.57 | Semlar | and then the line number |
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| 07:57.13 | Gorian | oh, sorry i'm such a noob ._. |
| 07:57.30 | Semlar | so on line 5, which is actually line 7 in here the for loop goes from i=1 to NUM_SHAPESHIFT_SLOTS which apparently isn't set |
| 07:58.42 | Semlar | i'm guessing it's supposed to represent the number of shapeshift buttons to display |
| 07:59.07 | Gorian | So what changed in mop to break something like this? Is it the fact shapeshift is now a stance bar frame instead of a shapeshiftbarframe? |
| 07:59.49 | Semlar | i'm guessing NUM_SHAPESHIFT_SLOTS was a constant that blizzard removed |
| 08:00.10 | nevcairiel | NUM_STANCE_SLOTS is what you're looking for |
| 08:00.30 | Gorian | I couldn't find anything saying it was removed on the wiki api changes, is that list not completely full? |
| 08:00.42 | nevcairiel | why would you think it is complete? |
| 08:00.46 | nevcairiel | such lists never are |
| 08:00.57 | Semlar | why is this even a constant |
| 08:01.15 | nevcairiel | the UI creates frames for a fixed number of slots |
| 08:01.16 | Semlar | wouldn't the number of buttons to display vary |
| 08:01.23 | nevcairiel | but not all are used |
| 08:01.35 | nevcairiel | blizzard doesnt like dynamically creating frames on demand |
| 08:01.43 | nevcairiel | they rather create 10, and then only use 5 |
| 08:01.57 | nevcairiel | hiding all others |
| 08:02.17 | Gorian | So, is that coding inefficient? |
| 08:02.22 | Semlar | not necessarily |
| 08:02.53 | Semlar | it's probably actually more efficient to already have the frame there when you need it than create it on the fly |
| 08:03.00 | Semlar | it would just use more memory |
| 08:04.18 | Semlar | there might also be secure reasons they want to have the action buttons already exist |
| 08:04.32 | zenzelezz | wow, Paragon + City of Heroes going down... |
| 08:05.42 | Gorian | Oh, alrighty then. One other question before I get back at it, my unitframes are broken / displaying as blizzard default and I have no error messages saying something is broken with them, would one of you happen to know off the top of your head as to what changed in mop to cause an issue that wouldn't cause an error? |
| 08:06.01 | Semlar | maybe the addon isn't enabled |
| 08:06.16 | Gorian | It's on and enabled, but it's not working :/ |
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| 08:07.02 | Semlar | reloading might cause it to throw an error |
| 08:07.41 | Gorian | alright, I'll try that. |
| 08:07.50 | Gorian | Thanks for your patience and knowledge :D |
| 08:08.01 | Semlar | it's kind of a long shot |
| 08:08.16 | Semlar | sometimes it doesn't display errors for whatever reason |
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| 08:23.14 | Primer | I've added a "friend buff" for Mind Quickening in PitBull 4 in the aura filter editor, but it's still showing up on my raid frames... |
| 08:25.24 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/browse/23421/samsung_kangarooo.jpg |
| 08:28.38 | Semlar | i bet it would be pretty difficult to get a kangaroo to operate a unicycle |
| 08:29.07 | Fisker | haha mikma |
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| 08:48.50 | karl_w_w | blizzard are just full of stupid arent they |
| 08:48.53 | Maldivia | oh, HoTS beta started last night? |
| 08:49.18 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: how so? |
| 08:56.09 | Gorian | Does anyone know what MiniMapbattlefieldFrame got changed to? |
| 08:57.16 | nevcairiel | all the queue buttons got consolidated into one QueueStatusMinimapButton |
| 08:57.38 | karl_w_w | zenzelezz: telling people to visit a trainer to learn something they can't learn |
| 08:57.57 | Maldivia | pet battle? |
| 08:58.03 | Gorian | nevcairiel: thanks :D |
| 08:58.59 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 08:59.11 | zenzelezz | minor glyphs now confuse me. Most of them seem to be purely for fun (scare critters, show fancy graphical effects), while a few seem to still have a purpose - like making Intimidating Shout not make enemies run around |
| 09:00.00 | nevcairiel | if that was a major, no-one would ever take it |
| 09:00.35 | zenzelezz | I agree, but it just seemed like minor glyphs wasn't sure what it wanted to be about. I'm not complaining though :) |
| 09:00.51 | nevcairiel | also, you can scare critters? |
| 09:00.59 | nevcairiel | i can befriend critters and they follow me around! |
| 09:01.20 | karl_w_w | wow seriously, i was like 3 kills off the frostbitten achieve and it's been reset |
| 09:01.29 | Gorian | all shapeshift buttons are stance buttons now, right? |
| 09:01.45 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: actually, I'm not sure it's "critters" or not: "small creatures" http://www.wowhead.com/item=43396 |
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| 09:01.58 | nevcairiel | yeah thats criters |
| 09:02.38 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowhead.com/item=43335 |
| 09:02.52 | nevcairiel | this is somewhat funny |
| 09:02.54 | zenzelezz | the comments on the glyph I linked confuse the hell out of me. They must have changed whatever it used to be |
| 09:03.09 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: wow, that's pretty cool actually |
| 09:03.35 | nevcairiel | they must've also changed this glyph |
| 09:03.36 | nevcairiel | some comments are odd |
| 09:03.50 | Torhal | They changed a shitload of glyphs. |
| 09:03.56 | nevcairiel | ah it used to tbe the one that reduced mana cost on buffing |
| 09:04.02 | Torhal | The former Primes are now mixed between Major and Minor. |
| 09:04.17 | zenzelezz | I'm so sad these new ones will have to wait for Pandaria :( http://www.wowhead.com/item=80588 |
| 09:05.10 | nevcairiel | thats a stupid glyph |
| 09:05.16 | nevcairiel | i tried it on my warrior, and it sucked |
| 09:05.22 | zenzelezz | how so? |
| 09:05.57 | zenzelezz | many of the warrior minors are graphics only... Thunder Clap, Execute, Deep Wounds, Charge, Enrage |
| 09:05.58 | nevcairiel | it just looks stupid |
| 09:06.03 | zenzelezz | ah, I see |
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| 09:12.04 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 09:12.06 | Fisker | i need you |
| 09:14.24 | Fisker | i need you so badly jnwhiteh |
| 09:15.08 | pompy | nevcairiel: Blizzard REUSED a shitton of spellids for Inscription, when wowhead mined it, it replaced the tooltips on the spell/item pages but kept the comments associated with that ID page |
| 09:15.09 | pompy | >< |
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| 09:16.01 | Fisker | i could also use rtharper if he's on Steam |
| 09:16.15 | rtharper | what do you need me for? ;) |
| 09:16.22 | Fisker | need you to gift me stuff on Steam |
| 09:16.40 | rtharper | Hrm, best to ask jnwhiteh |
| 09:16.45 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 09:16.46 | rtharper | I don't remember if I have a steam account |
| 09:16.48 | Fisker | he's not answering :O |
| 09:16.52 | rtharper | haha |
| 09:17.05 | rtharper | He will in a second =) |
| 09:17.42 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: why are you so needy? |
| 09:17.44 | jnwhiteh | I should get a commission for this |
| 09:17.50 | Fisker | :D |
| 09:17.52 | karl_w_w | has anyone written a script to search all your addons for removed api calls? :P |
| 09:18.01 | Fisker | http://store.steampowered.com/app/218560/ |
| 09:18.20 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: anything else? |
| 09:18.27 | jnwhiteh | £7.99? |
| 09:18.42 | Fisker | O_O |
| 09:18.45 | Fisker | i thought it was 6.99 |
| 09:18.53 | pompy | karl_w_w: just use grep? or the search function in your editor? |
| 09:18.57 | Fisker | nevermind then :P |
| 09:18.59 | jnwhiteh | Pre-purchase Borderlands 2 Season Pass: £7.99 |
| 09:19.05 | jnwhiteh | psh. |
| 09:19.06 | Fisker | sorry jnwhiteh :'( |
| 09:19.15 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 09:19.17 | Xinhuan | tsk tsk |
| 09:19.20 | jnwhiteh | someone hacked my guildwars account. |
| 09:19.22 | jnwhiteh | I didn' tknow I had one. |
| 09:19.25 | Fisker | don't think so jnwhiteh |
| 09:19.27 | Fisker | i got it as well |
| 09:19.40 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 09:20.01 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
| 09:20.03 | karl_w_w | pompy: they happen to be the same thing, but that would take ages to do manually :P |
| 09:20.07 | Fisker | i'm buying the blands 2 season pass for you |
| 09:20.12 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: so I do nothing? |
| 09:20.16 | nevcairiel | pompy: well how would wowhead know if blizzard just reworded the description or replaced the whole thing :p |
| 09:20.20 | Fisker | i'm not sure yet jnwhiteh |
| 09:20.22 | jnwhiteh | I wouldn't begin to know how to log in |
| 09:20.24 | Fisker | most of their systems seem screwed |
| 09:20.32 | Fisker | no account recovery and shit up yet |
| 09:20.34 | karl_w_w | that borderlands thing is $15.95 USD for me |
| 09:20.45 | Fisker | i was thinking it was because of my old ncsoft/gw1 account |
| 09:21.08 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 09:21.12 | jnwhiteh | i think i had a gw1 account |
| 09:21.14 | jnwhiteh | at some point |
| 09:21.46 | Fisker | anyway the e-mail seems legit |
| 09:21.50 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 09:21.54 | jnwhiteh | I got two |
| 09:21.58 | jnwhiteh | one asking me to confirm the email change |
| 09:22.02 | jnwhiteh | and another saying the change happened. |
| 09:22.15 | jnwhiteh | Mikk: server money is due again |
| 09:22.18 | jnwhiteh | are we happy with linode? |
| 09:23.57 | pompy | karl_w_w: $15.95 usd?? It says $29.99 for me :( lol |
| 09:24.25 | mikma | jnwhiteh: play bf3 |
| 09:24.26 | Torhal | http://o7.no/PWtmJ0 <-- $29.99 |
| 09:24.37 | pompy | yeah |
| 09:24.49 | Torhal | Why so fucky? |
| 09:24.52 | Fisker | the official price is $29.99 |
| 09:25.04 | Fisker | which puts it in 24.99-29.99€ territory |
| 09:25.12 | Fisker | but it's sold for 9.99€ :P |
| 09:25.22 | Xinhuan | borderlands season pass says $29.99 USD for me heh |
| 09:25.27 | Xinhuan | version 2 that is |
| 09:25.37 | mikma | jnwhiteh: you have the advantage that you can go and knock on dice stockholm's door or either kick it in |
| 09:25.45 | Torhal | So where are 6.99€ amd 7.99€ coming from? :P |
| 09:25.49 | Fisker | yep same here jnwhiteh |
| 09:25.54 | Fisker | but in the opposite order |
| 09:25.57 | pompy | nevcairiel: idk, but blizzard basically removed a bunch of glyphs and added a bunch, but just put the new ones using the existing IDs >< |
| 09:26.03 | Torhal | Oh, Euros. Nevermind. |
| 09:26.13 | Fisker | how can they possibly have done that though? |
| 09:26.25 | Fisker | unless arenanet security is dumb as fuck |
| 09:26.27 | Sintacks | i really fucking hate it when something is installing/updating and you are typing in something else, and the updating/installing application takes focus and you press "okay" on god knows what |
| 09:28.01 | Sintacks | woo. 23 addon updates |
| 09:28.11 | Sintacks | the only time of the year i wish i had curse prem :| |
| 09:28.12 | pompy | 96 here! |
| 09:29.25 | Sintacks | yay. WhoPulled updated |
| 09:29.34 | Sintacks | no moer "it wasn't me" bullshit |
| 09:29.54 | AcidWeb | Sintacks: just dropped you code for month premium. |
| 09:30.11 | pompy | :O |
| 09:30.37 | Sintacks | o; |
| 09:31.05 | pompy | Sintacks: idk if you use DBM but i think it has a feature like that already, telling you who pulled |
| 09:31.14 | Sintacks | :o |
| 09:31.27 | Sintacks | i've never seen that, pompy |
| 09:31.49 | Sintacks | i assume you have to restart curse client for it to know you have premium |
| 09:32.34 | AcidWeb | anybody else need it? |
| 09:32.38 | AcidWeb | still have 4 codes |
| 09:32.43 | Sintacks | i'll take 4 more. =p |
| 09:33.10 | Sintacks | oh .. wow. the download speed is actually noticable |
| 09:33.20 | AcidWeb | only one code can be used per account ;p |
| 09:33.34 | Sintacks | awe :( |
| 09:36.56 | karl_w_w | oh look i have 2 reputation on curseforge |
| 09:36.59 | Maldivia | *whistle* http://imgur.com/HHSLT |
| 09:36.59 | karl_w_w | what does that mean |
| 09:39.46 | Fisker | i didn't get it Maldivia |
| 09:39.48 | Fisker | dick |
| 09:39.50 | Fisker | can has? |
| 09:40.34 | Fisker | i wonder if i get a beta copy for pointing out that there profiler has issues |
| 09:41.30 | karl_w_w | beta copies Fisker |
| 09:41.40 | Fisker | http://pastebin.com/7pT1XuGk <-spot the horrible mistake |
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| 09:42.54 | karl_w_w | Fisker: it's on pastebin |
| 09:43.01 | Fisker | nope |
| 09:43.38 | Maldivia | Fisker: the no Win8 detection? |
| 09:43.43 | Fisker | well also that |
| 09:43.47 | Fisker | but that's not a horrible mistake |
| 09:43.55 | Maldivia | the vram? |
| 09:43.55 | Fisker | the horrible mistake is saying i got a 13mbps connection |
| 09:44.02 | Fisker | 13 millibit per second? |
| 09:44.03 | Fisker | psh |
| 09:44.30 | Fisker | not suredon't even think the vram bit is a bug |
| 09:44.34 | Fisker | apparently that's how windows sees it |
| 09:44.46 | Fisker | probably because it can share system memory with it or some retarded shit |
| 09:45.35 | Fisker | but Maldivia |
| 09:45.36 | Fisker | i jelly |
| 09:45.41 | Fisker | even though it's only MP |
| 09:45.47 | Fisker | and i absolutely hate strategy games mp |
| 09:45.54 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 09:46.45 | Fisker | so is it press/fansite/mvps only at the moment? |
| 09:46.55 | Maldivia | dunno |
| 09:47.45 | Silvanas | hmm i used to think Fisker was a bot |
| 09:48.52 | Sintacks | Fisker, y u mad |
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| 09:50.03 | Fisker | umad Sintacks |
| 09:50.05 | Fisker | iglad |
| 09:50.24 | karl_w_w | I still think Fisker is a bot |
| 09:50.31 | Sintacks | a mad bot |
| 09:50.36 | Fisker | nope |
| 09:50.37 | Fisker | .mp4 |
| 09:50.39 | Sintacks | that says hey a lot |
| 09:50.58 | Sintacks | also, llol windows 2.6 |
| 09:51.28 | Sintacks | lol. AcidWeb, this prem will expire the day after my birthday |
| 09:52.14 | karl_w_w | damn glyph taints |
| 09:59.30 | pompy | they fixed it on th enewest beta patch apparebntly |
| 09:59.31 | pompy | 16030 |
| 10:00.00 | Torhal | reinstalls pompy. |
| 10:00.39 | pompy | no |
| 10:03.52 | zenzelezz | so if I'm reading things correctly... wowpedia and wowprogramming agree that PLAYER_LOGIN fires on login and UI reload; but wowprogramming claims PLAYER_LOGOUT only fires on logout, whereas wowpedia says it fires on logout and before a reload... anyone happen to know which is right? |
| 10:04.01 | pompy | 05:59:45 AM]Daily quests are now reset! |
| 10:04.09 | pompy | 15 seconds early, how dare they! |
| 10:04.18 | zenzelezz | more specifically wowprogramming does not say "does not fire on reload", but it doesn't specify |
| 10:08.23 | Fisker | mad Sintacks ? |
| 10:08.58 | Xinhuan | wowpedia is correct |
| 10:09.25 | nevcairiel | i dont think player_logout fires on reloadui |
| 10:09.36 | Xinhuan | iirc, it does |
| 10:09.47 | Xinhuan | that's how ace3 saves all the dbs |
| 10:10.04 | Xinhuan | it removes all the entries in DBs that are equal to the default values at that event |
| 10:10.12 | zenzelezz | cool, cheers |
| 10:10.18 | nevcairiel | yes, and i believe that only happens on logout, not on reload |
| 10:10.33 | Xinhuan | you can test it easily by registering for it, and saving a test variable in that event |
| 10:10.44 | Xinhuan | i believe it happens on both |
| 10:10.44 | Maldivia | zenzelezz: just test it? play a sound or set a saved var on the event, and listen for the sound, or check if the var is set when the reload is done? |
| 10:11.12 | zenzelezz | Maldivia: I've just not messed with saved variables, so it was easier to ask first :) But yeah, looks like I'll have to check it |
| 10:13.12 | neutronimity | I fell through the Aldor elevator |
| 10:13.23 | zenzelezz | through? |
| 10:13.39 | neutronimity | Yes |
| 10:13.46 | F16Gaming | oh |
| 10:13.53 | F16Gaming | now i remember why i included libs in the repo |
| 10:14.04 | F16Gaming | for them to be present on WoWInterface |
| 10:14.05 | F16Gaming | >.> |
| 10:14.22 | F16Gaming | now it doens't have libs on there :d |
| 10:15.49 | F16Gaming | Torhal: ^ |
| 10:18.17 | Maldivia | neutronimity: did you jump onto it? :) |
| 10:18.35 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel, Xinhuan, Maldivia: it did indeed fire on reload |
| 10:18.37 | neutronimity | Yes |
| 10:18.42 | neutronimity | I fell through the edge :p |
| 10:18.45 | Xinhuan | ^_^ |
| 10:19.00 | Maldivia | neutronimity: been like that since since it was released :P |
| 10:19.27 | Torhal | F16Gaming: I always just upload what the CurseForge packager generates to WoWI |
| 10:19.34 | Torhal | Hrm. |
| 10:19.47 | Torhal | FFS I don't know. :/ |
| 10:19.50 | Xinhuan | what torhal said :P |
| 10:19.54 | Xinhuan | that way the zips are identical |
| 10:20.11 | F16Gaming | i suppose :P so is the packager still bugged on curseforge? |
| 10:20.32 | nevcairiel | worked fine for me |
| 10:20.43 | pompy | nevcairiel: his are only packaging nolibs |
| 10:20.57 | nevcairiel | the he broke his project |
| 10:21.18 | nevcairiel | usually helps if someone deletes the checkout on the server |
| 10:21.22 | pompy | prolly svn:*'s ? |
| 10:21.24 | pompy | hm |
| 10:21.48 | neutronimity | Holy paladin running after me. I'm on mount, he kills me on it .. 880 dmg x2 :p |
| 10:22.02 | Fisker | btw jnwhiteh |
| 10:22.07 | Fisker | since i don't give a shit about my account |
| 10:22.09 | Fisker | i clicked the link |
| 10:22.10 | Yoshimo | pets, achievements, mounts are they account wide in terms of bnet or just the local wow account within that bnet account? |
| 10:22.20 | Xinhuan | local wow account |
| 10:22.21 | Fisker | link leads me to a "i have successfully verified my email" site |
| 10:22.49 | F16Gaming | Torhal: then problem now is, curseforge doesn't have any generated zips (1.4.1 with libs), so there is nothing to upload to WoWI :P |
| 10:23.02 | Xinhuan | sounds broken F16Gaming |
| 10:23.03 | Fisker | didn't seem to do anything useful |
| 10:23.04 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 10:23.24 | F16Gaming | Xinhuan: but how did it break :/ |
| 10:24.11 | pompy | check if you have any svn properties set for the hell of it |
| 10:24.25 | pompy | nm |
| 10:24.27 | pompy | its git |
| 10:24.28 | pompy | bleh |
| 10:24.32 | F16Gaming | no svn properties, the svn copies of the libs are in the .gitignored libs folder |
| 10:25.14 | Xinhuan | what's the public address of your git repo? |
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| 10:25.29 | F16Gaming | https://github.com/F16Gaming/KillTrack |
| 10:25.55 | F16Gaming | curseforge repo: git://git.curseforge.net/wow/killtrack/mainline.git |
| 10:26.14 | Xinhuan | going to clone it :P |
| 10:28.02 | Xinhuan | hmm not sure |
| 10:28.17 | Xinhuan | maybe u can try removing the the line that says "enable-nolib-creation: yes" in your pkgmeta |
| 10:28.45 | F16Gaming | it's always been there before without causing issues :\ |
| 10:28.51 | Xinhuan | by default, its enabled anyway, its a project setting in the curseforge project |
| 10:38.27 | Sintacks | wat |
| 10:38.45 | Sintacks | now if you die, some where you aren't supposed to be, your course is returned to the spirit healer |
| 10:43.29 | starlon | atsw is broken :/ |
| 10:43.39 | starlon | any replacement that works with Auctioneer? |
| 10:44.06 | Xinhuan | auctioneer is already updated |
| 10:44.14 | Xinhuan | oh atsw |
| 10:44.16 | Xinhuan | nvm |
| 10:45.14 | Silvanas | Grr, why is there GetUTF8CursorPosition() butno Setter |
| 10:45.36 | Silvanas | like i have to implements everything myzelf |
| 10:45.59 | Xinhuan | editbox:SetCursorPosition() not good enough? |
| 10:46.33 | Silvanas | but thne i need some kind of mapping between the normal and the utf8 pos |
| 10:46.55 | Xinhuan | if you have the cursor position, just get the text from position 1-cursor |
| 10:46.58 | Xinhuan | and strlen() it |
| 10:47.13 | Xinhuan | non utf8 strlen i mean |
| 10:47.15 | Xinhuan | might work? |
| 10:47.54 | Xinhuan | strlenutf8() vs strlen() |
| 10:48.41 | Silvanas | hmm might, i was thinking of placing my cursor on charecter 20 on the screen, but that should be utf8 20 then i gues |
| 10:49.23 | Silvanas | so with your ides i should get the entire text and do an normal strlen, hmm might work |
| 10:50.41 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 10:57.36 | Torhal | Xinhuan: Did you fix Postal yet? Still listed as non-updated on the WoW guide. |
| 10:57.43 | Fisker | pls Stanzilla |
| 10:57.48 | Xinhuan | its updated 2 days ago |
| 10:57.58 | Xinhuan | Cairenn|afk probably didn't update the guide |
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| 11:13.57 | Sintacks | I <3 Postal |
| 11:14.09 | Sintacks | I would never use the AH if I didn't have Postal |
| 11:20.12 | Silvanas | I <3 Portal |
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| 11:59.51 | Cruciformer | Hell everyone, ltns |
| 12:00.58 | Cruciformer | Anyone have an "in" with Blizzard to get a Lua bug some attention? |
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| 12:04.58 | zenzelezz | hey there |
| 12:05.22 | Cruciformer | hey zenzelezz how you doing mate? |
| 12:05.36 | zenzelezz | not bad, yourself? |
| 12:05.41 | Cruciformer | purl seen Iriel |
| 12:05.45 | purl | iriel <~Iriel@173-8-135-209-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 2d 9h 59s ago, saying: 'Or convert your boss to a software patent hater, and put "Successfully convinced boss of the benefit of a world without software patents" on your resume?'. |
| 12:06.00 | zenzelezz | that does not seem right |
| 12:06.34 | zenzelezz | he was on the channel at least earlier today |
| 12:06.39 | Cruciformer | I'm doing OK ... well mostly. I had a massive RAID crash and nearly lost over 20 years of data. |
| 12:07.02 | zenzelezz | ouch! |
| 12:07.07 | zenzelezz | what kind of data was that old? |
| 12:07.21 | karl_w_w | who are you to judge right from wrong? |
| 12:08.01 | karl_w_w | doomsday book |
| 12:08.09 | Cruciformer | Mostly old mail archives, some legal documents (like scans of all my employment contracts), some C projects I havent touched in years |
| 12:08.29 | Cruciformer | as I upgrade each system I migrate my data. some of that old crap is surprisingly valuable at times. |
| 12:08.49 | zenzelezz | :-/ |
| 12:09.14 | nevcairiel | this is why raid is not automatic backup |
| 12:09.39 | Cruciformer | but it had a nice side effect - it assuaged my guilty conscience about spending $20K on a new rig :-) |
| 12:09.51 | zenzelezz | $20k o_O |
| 12:10.17 | Cruciformer | nev: well when you can show me a home-affordable backup solution that can back up a 36TB raid I'll consider not using RAID as backup :) |
| 12:10.29 | zenzelezz | 36 TB, that's a lot of porn |
| 12:10.44 | nevcairiel | if you really want a proper backup, you just gotta duplicate your storage |
| 12:11.01 | nevcairiel | raid just protects one copy of the data, but as you figured out, that copy can still go bad |
| 12:11.04 | nevcairiel | so need a second one |
| 12:11.04 | Cruciformer | lol strange to relate only about 3GB of that is porn. I always transcode every bluray I get so its accessible on the network. |
| 12:11.38 | starlon | how very criminal of you |
| 12:11.50 | Cruciformer | nev: yeah it was a bit of a perfect storm. I had a bad hard drive that was injecting bad data on teh bus and the adaptec controller was getting all kinds of confused. |
| 12:11.59 | nevcairiel | backup for ripped media that you can just re-acquite over other means is stupid anyway, so limit it to real valuable data, and i'm sure youc an do with a smaller backup :) |
| 12:12.00 | TMc51 | Bluray? Is that what they're calling the pr0n these days? ;) |
| 12:12.11 | Cruciformer | starlon: not if I never share them 9which I dont) and own every movie I have (which I do) |
| 12:12.25 | zenzelezz | TMc51: don't be silly, bluray is just the storage medium |
| 12:12.44 | starlon | Same argument was made against backing up your VHS tapes. |
| 12:12.55 | Cruciformer | nev: while its true that I can re-transcode all the movies, since each one took about 18 hours on my current rig, thats not a very tennable option. |
| 12:13.15 | nevcairiel | If you have all that space, screw transcoding and just rip them as-is :P |
| 12:13.36 | karl_w_w | ^ |
| 12:13.37 | Cruciformer | you make a very good point :) |
| 12:14.05 | nevcairiel | It should be legal to download a rip of a movie you own |
| 12:14.53 | Cruciformer | nev: in a court I bet you could argue that receiving the download was legal becuase you own it. However, the transmission may not be legal becuase the person sending you (i.e the seeders) the movie cant verify that. |
| 12:15.08 | nevcairiel | thats their problem, isnt it |
| 12:15.10 | nevcairiel | not yours |
| 12:15.42 | Cruciformer | indeed. |
| 12:15.48 | Sintacks | the reason i don't like watching movies ont eh computer is, i can't stay away from irc |
| 12:16.11 | nevcairiel | computer is connected to the tv |
| 12:16.49 | nevcairiel | can just sit on the couch and still use computer for watching movies .) |
| 12:17.07 | Cruciformer | anyway back to wow type stuff. /dump string.format ("%08x", 0x87654321) now fails whereas it didnt previously. Now they complain about not being able to store an integer. I suspect they have a value comparison that is signed instead of unsigned. |
| 12:17.08 | F16Gaming | "Chocobo -> Browse folders -> TriviaAnswers" ._. |
| 12:17.58 | Cruciformer | and I bet it was in response to the 64-bit client's Lua not treating ints as 32-bit, which was causing all kinds of havoc with things like bit.lshift. |
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| 12:19.34 | Cruciformer | its buggering up my mod which does a CRC-32 calculation. Le sigh. |
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| 12:22.44 | Cruciformer | So if any of you maintain mods that use the bit library or could possibly store integer values for whatever reason that are > 0x7fffffff just beware. |
| 12:23.54 | Elkano | just seen the last ine but sounds like two's complement |
| 12:24.26 | Cruciformer | elkano: yeah they are value checking using a signed value instead of unsigned. |
| 12:24.59 | Elkano | so that's where the stats mess in comparison tooltips comes from? |
| 12:25.34 | Cruciformer | quite possibly |
| 12:26.23 | Cruciformer | interesting tidbit is that you can do all kinds of other manipulations on a value thats > 2^31 but string.format is the thing that seems to spit out an error. |
| 12:27.08 | Cruciformer | I wonder if it accepts some kind of sign format string like %u |
| 12:27.11 | cbreak | Cruciformer: lua only has one number type, typically double |
| 12:27.54 | Cruciformer | cbreak: I'm aware, but this is extra logic that bliz has put on top of things to get (is my suspicioin) compatibility with the 32-bit and 64-bit clients. |
| 12:28.07 | Cruciformer | cbreak: also things get a bit wonky when you use the bit library. |
| 12:28.54 | cbreak | what's the problem with 64 bit clients? |
| 12:29.00 | cbreak | doubles have the same size in them, as do ints |
| 12:29.06 | cbreak | you suspect they use long? |
| 12:29.40 | nevcairiel | long also has the same size as int |
| 12:29.45 | cbreak | depends |
| 12:29.51 | cbreak | on OS X, long is 64 bit |
| 12:29.52 | nevcairiel | on windows it does |
| 12:29.52 | Cruciformer | cbreak: In earlier versions of the 64-bit client doing a bit.lshift would shift into bits > 32 ... which since most mods were written when there was only a 32-bit client, broke some stuff. |
| 12:30.07 | Cruciformer | Now they;'ve sort of fixed that ... but added this new breakage. |
| 12:30.30 | cbreak | a simple &0xffffffff would have been enough I guess :) |
| 12:31.18 | Cruciformer | cbreak: exactly :) And I suspect they are doing something naive like "if (value > 0x7fffffff) { produce_error();}" |
| 12:31.44 | nevcairiel | more likely more simple like value > INT_MAX vs UINT_MAX |
| 12:32.04 | Cruciformer | Indeed. I was putting in teh hex for clarity |
| 12:32.13 | nevcairiel | easier to get it wrong with the constants ;) |
| 12:32.18 | dracula | aah, I'd been wondering why the addon memory usage was so much higher on 64-bit client |
| 12:32.20 | cbreak | so bitlib is now 31 bit? |
| 12:32.56 | Cruciformer | cbreak: no bitlib seems to work fine. You just cant string.format ("%x", value) any value > 2^31 |
| 12:33.49 | Cruciformer | and the iron is .... if you do something like string.format ("%x", 0xffffffff) when it reports the error, it gets the value right :) |
| 12:34.17 | Cruciformer | So its parsing 0xffffffff correctly, and correctly getting whatever the value of 2^32 is ... it just wont format it. |
| 12:35.59 | Cruciformer | if I was a blizzard employee and looking at this, Id take a look at their handling of %x personally ... I suspect that they arent taking into account that %x takes an unsigned value |
| 12:36.10 | cbreak | > print(string.format("%x%x", 0x1234, 0x5678)) |
| 12:36.11 | cbreak | :/ |
| 12:36.29 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 12:36.31 | Fisker | not gonna thank me? |
| 12:37.02 | Cruciformer | cbreak: that is certainly an option :-D I can split the value into 2 16-bit chunks and format it separately. |
| 12:37.29 | karl_w_w | thanks Fisker |
| 12:37.41 | Cruciformer | In fact that is a most excelent idea, thank you. It may well insulate me from further weirdnesses. |
| 12:38.05 | cbreak | np. Feels dirty. |
| 12:38.09 | Cruciformer | becuase I can bit.rshift (value, 16) |
| 12:38.55 | Cruciformer | yeah it does ... I agree, but from a pragmatic standpoint, its a valid solution. I can do that a lot quicker than blizzard can acknowledge the real problem, and in the meantime, my mod users can get on with distributing loot :) |
| 12:39.21 | cbreak | distributing loot nowadays is easy |
| 12:39.27 | cbreak | just give everything to the disenchanter. |
| 12:39.37 | cbreak | not like any good mage loot drops :( |
| 12:39.38 | Cruciformer | hehehe |
| 12:40.22 | karl_w_w | what is this "mage loot" of which you speak |
| 12:40.30 | Cruciformer | cbreak: Im surprised you play a mage. If Id have had to guess your class I'd have thought you'd polay a cat. |
| 12:40.50 | Cruciformer | err, play even |
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| 12:41.17 | cbreak | You can't spell Damage without Mage. :D I've been a mage since the beta, never got into alts. |
| 12:41.41 | Cruciformer | you cant spell desicate without cat :) |
| 12:42.07 | karl_w_w | you can't spell dessicate at all, it seems :P |
| 12:42.19 | Cruciformer | that too smarty pants :) |
| 12:42.49 | Cruciformer | but +1 brownie points from the baby jesus for being on the ball |
| 12:44.31 | Cruciformer | cbreak: thank you very much for the idea of splitting the printing into two parts. That's going to make fixing my mod a lot simpler than waiting for blizzard. |
| 12:44.42 | cbreak | np |
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| 12:45.16 | Cruciformer | funny how when you're in the midst of a problem you dont see the obvious solution. If someone else had described the problem to me Id probably have spotted that :) |
| 12:45.51 | Cruciformer | which just goes to prove the value of soliciting discussion amongst smart people. |
| 12:46.04 | cbreak | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_ducking often works. |
| 12:47.09 | zenzelezz | also usually a good idea |
| 12:47.17 | Cruciformer | it quacks me up that theres actually a wikipedia entry for that :) |
| 12:47.37 | zenzelezz | cause it's still always embarrasing to be trying to explain the problem to a colleague only for it all to suddenly make sense to you as you're saying it |
| 12:48.13 | Cruciformer | znezelezz: However, the value of doing THAT is that both people see both the error and the solution, which makes both parties less likely to repeat the mistake. |
| 12:50.05 | Cruciformer | anyway Im off to write ksk.hexstr and change my mod to use it wherever I string.format ("%08x"). thanks again everyone for your time and attention. |
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| 13:12.05 | Monolit | can anyone remind me what even fires when player gets promoted to raid assistant or leader? |
| 13:13.18 | Maldivia | probably raid roster update |
| 13:14.42 | Monolit | Maldivia: that's right thanks |
| 13:18.42 | karl_w_w | oh look they made the quest log bigger |
| 13:18.53 | karl_w_w | i doubt i would have even noticed without lightheaded |
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| 13:30.09 | starlon | There used to be a function Transform that was used to transform between worgen forms (probably not limited here). What replaced that? |
| 13:31.12 | starlon | or anyone know an addon that will turn me into human form after leaving c ombat? |
| 13:31.34 | TMc51 | cant be done anymore. |
| 13:31.40 | starlon | Ah damn |
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| 13:42.06 | AcidWeb | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FujNzhs3TE0 |
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| 13:48.14 | Fisker | so you no longer lose guild rep when changing guilds? |
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| 13:51.14 | Maldivia | well, guild rep is so easy to get now :) |
| 13:53.34 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
| 13:53.36 | Stanzilla | nice gift |
| 13:53.38 | Stanzilla | thank you :O |
| 13:56.04 | Fisker | not a gift Stanzilla ! |
| 13:56.05 | Fisker | :D |
| 13:56.42 | Stanzilla | what is it then |
| 13:57.33 | Fisker | i went ahead and purchased it for you |
| 13:57.52 | Fisker | the price looks buggy |
| 13:57.57 | Stanzilla | oh okay |
| 13:58.03 | Stanzilla | thats like super sweet of you |
| 13:59.03 | Fisker | yep |
| 13:59.05 | Fisker | totally |
| 13:59.12 | Fisker | we'll discuss pricing later |
| 13:59.16 | Fisker | lets see if it sticks to begin with |
| 13:59.32 | karl_w_w | watch out Stanzilla |
| 13:59.54 | karl_w_w | he probably wants some sort of "special" payment |
| 14:00.28 | Fisker | definitely |
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| 14:03.52 | g0urra_ | goddam I'm going to fucking murder my ISP |
| 14:04.24 | Fisker | oh ok g0urra |
| 14:04.27 | Fisker | why? |
| 14:04.37 | g0urra | because I keep disconnecting every 10-20 minutes |
| 14:05.01 | Fisker | sounds reasonable to me |
| 14:08.58 | Sintacks | I have an email about changing my guildwars2 email address |
| 14:09.17 | Sintacks | i don't have a guildwars 2 account... |
| 14:09.24 | Sintacks | at least not that i made |
| 14:09.38 | Fisker | btw just accept the gift Stanzilla |
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| 14:10.01 | Fisker | would rather not have them start looking at people who have >1 copies of it on their account and do stuff to their accounts |
| 14:11.07 | Stanzilla | sorry |
| 14:11.11 | Stanzilla | steam update was taking ages |
| 14:11.22 | g0urra | Sintacks: me too, I got those on two e-mail accounts that I haven't even used for GW2 |
| 14:11.57 | karl_w_w | ditto Sintacks |
| 14:12.18 | Stanzilla | Fisker: This item requires you own the base game "Borderlands 2" before it can be added to your library. |
| 14:12.19 | Stanzilla | what |
| 14:12.20 | Sintacks | but they are from actual guildwars email addresses, and go to actual guildwars pages |
| 14:12.26 | Fisker | yeah |
| 14:12.30 | Fisker | we don't own Borderlands 2 yet |
| 14:12.35 | Fisker | only Borderlands 2 Preorder |
| 14:12.49 | Fisker | when it gets closer to release you can redeem it |
| 14:13.05 | Stanzilla | ok so I'll just keep it as gift |
| 14:13.26 | Fisker | yep |
| 14:17.43 | Yoshimo | are there still targetdummys that have the same level as a ds raidboss? |
| 14:18.45 | Stanzilla | no |
| 14:18.45 | Fisker | btw Stanzilla you in the hots beta? |
| 14:18.55 | Stanzilla | Fisker: nope |
| 14:18.58 | Fisker | sure there is Stanzilla |
| 14:18.58 | Stanzilla | you? |
| 14:19.03 | Fisker | first boss in dragon soul LOL |
| 14:19.10 | Fisker | nope as well |
| 14:19.31 | Fisker | i want borderlands 2 now |
| 14:19.47 | Stanzilla | same |
| 14:22.19 | karl_w_w | i dont |
| 14:22.31 | karl_w_w | what do you think about that? |
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| 14:28.41 | zenzelezz | so something made me think of Hitman earlier, and I decided to try doing a Silent Assassin playthrough. Installed Hitman 2, loaded it up, and reloaded the first level so many times trying to find a way that would work |
| 14:28.47 | zenzelezz | in the end I just gave up and finished the mission |
| 14:29.12 | zenzelezz | turned out I did not remember the conditions for "silent assassin" in Hitman 2 at least; the game had no objections to me killing enemies :-| |
| 14:31.05 | karl_w_w | pretty hard to be an assassin without killing anybody |
| 14:32.08 | Arrowmaster | SA was earned through only killing the target and zero alerts |
| 14:32.24 | Arrowmaster | a few missions were easier than others |
| 14:32.35 | Arrowmaster | like the one you can poison the food on |
| 14:33.42 | zenzelezz | Arrowmaster: in Hitman 2, or at least this mission, the game didn't mind that I killed two guards in addition to the target, which really baffles me |
| 14:34.05 | Arrowmaster | you still got SA? |
| 14:34.09 | zenzelezz | but it's been a long time since I did Hitman 2... Contracts and Blood Money had tougher (overall) SA requirements |
| 14:34.10 | zenzelezz | yeah |
| 14:34.36 | zenzelezz | had no alerts or anything on the score card, only the two guard kills |
| 14:34.50 | Arrowmaster | maybe it was no civilian kills |
| 14:35.22 | zenzelezz | that at least |
| 14:35.38 | zenzelezz | but I feel pretty sure it was "no unnecessary" in the later games |
| 14:36.05 | zenzelezz | will have to see if 2 was just lenient on that mission, or had overall lower requirements. Playing on Expert (middle setting) so it shouldn't be too easy |
| 14:36.56 | zenzelezz | but man how I hate that Contracts is not on Steam |
| 14:42.01 | starlon | Is AQ20/40 still available? |
| 14:42.49 | zenzelezz | unless they changed something in 5.0, yes |
| 14:43.30 | Fisker | AQ20 isn't available anymore |
| 14:43.34 | Fisker | because it's AQ10 LOL |
| 14:44.23 | Fisker | get it zenzelezz ? |
| 14:44.53 | Fisker | :( |
| 14:45.08 | zenzelezz | I do, but shouldn't you also go 40 = 25 then? |
| 14:45.25 | zenzelezz | or did you just outsmart me? |
| 14:45.30 | Fisker | pretty sure the temple is still a 40-man |
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| 14:46.44 | karl_w_w | <3 wget |
| 14:47.29 | zenzelezz | I would tend to agree, but how so? |
| 14:47.32 | karl_w_w | you need a downloader that's amazingly good at resuming when you're using your mobile phone as a modem |
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| 14:53.46 | Sintacks | AcidWeb, not sure you really helped me. =p cuz now i'm-a have to start paying for it. after using it for a month. |
| 14:53.57 | Jamash | temple is a 3man |
| 14:54.07 | Jamash | although doing twin emps is a bit of a chore |
| 14:54.33 | Jamash | karl_w_w: wget \m/ |
| 14:55.14 | karl_w_w | is twin emps the only classic boss that still needs 3 people? |
| 14:55.36 | karl_w_w | maybe viscidus(sp?) |
| 14:55.36 | Jamash | oh you could probably solo it as a pet class, but I wouldn't want to |
| 14:55.36 | batbot | karl_w_w, viscid us, viscid-us. |
| 14:56.01 | Fisker | we're talking about the player limit Jamash |
| 14:56.11 | Jamash | your mom is a player limit, Fisker |
| 14:56.25 | Xinhuan | i think you need at least 4 or 5 ppl for vaelastrasz |
| 14:56.27 | Sintacks | ur mom is a Fisker, Jamash |
| 14:56.35 | zenzelezz | "yo mama so fat she can't enter a 40-man"? |
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| 14:56.43 | Xinhuan | dps just isn't large enough before the tanks and dps die every 20 seconds |
| 14:56.48 | durcyn | inverse corollary, zenzelezz |
| 14:56.52 | Jamash | zenzelezz: yeah something like that |
| 14:57.06 | Jamash | Xinhuan: even at 85? |
| 14:57.08 | Fisker | so mad Jamash |
| 14:57.19 | Jamash | mad like a fox, Fisker |
| 14:57.23 | Fisker | i got 4 borderlands 2 dlc for ones price |
| 14:57.23 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure about 85, but i remember needing 5 ppl at 80 |
| 14:57.24 | Fisker | madski? |
| 14:57.28 | Xinhuan | so maybe u need 4 at 85? |
| 14:57.45 | Sintacks | you talking about AQ? |
| 14:57.47 | Sintacks | solo that shit |
| 14:57.48 | Sintacks | bitch |
| 14:57.49 | Jamash | vael |
| 14:57.54 | Sintacks | solo it |
| 14:57.57 | Sintacks | or you're bad |
| 14:58.09 | Jamash | you need a lot of deeps but there's no inherent reason you can't |
| 14:58.13 | Xinhuan | can't be soloed, the boss puts a suicide debuff that kills players every 20 secs |
| 14:58.20 | Jamash | so kill it in 19 |
| 14:58.21 | Sintacks | be less bad |
| 14:58.30 | zenzelezz | don't you still roughly need two for Razorgore? |
| 14:58.33 | Xinhuan | you're mistaken, the boss has ridiculous hp :P |
| 14:58.47 | Jamash | lua>1e6/19 |
| 14:58.47 | lua_bot | Jamash: 52631.578947368 |
| 14:58.51 | Fisker | you can 2-man vael no problem |
| 14:58.53 | Jamash | you just need 53k dps |
| 14:58.54 | Sintacks | i don't truely know about soloing it, but i know every boss in AQ20 and 40 can be two manned as long as you have a tank with self heals |
| 14:58.57 | Fisker | can probably solo it too |
| 14:59.13 | Xinhuan | maybe, i don't know |
| 14:59.20 | Xinhuan | i merely said you need 5 ppl at 80 |
| 14:59.46 | AcidWeb | Sintacks: wut? |
| 14:59.53 | Sintacks | curse prem |
| 14:59.54 | Sintacks | lol |
| 15:00.05 | Xinhuan | because the each tank dies every 20 secs, and every 20 secs a dps dies too |
| 15:00.06 | Fisker | btw Stanzilla |
| 15:00.12 | Fisker | did you hear about samsung's new smart tv? |
| 15:00.14 | Sintacks | that's a way to get people to want to pay for a service like that though... free trials |
| 15:00.26 | AcidWeb | Just make popular addon :D |
| 15:00.31 | AcidWeb | It is cheaper :> |
| 15:00.32 | Sintacks | lolz |
| 15:00.47 | Sintacks | or get partnered. at least that's what a huntard in my guild did |
| 15:01.00 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 15:01.31 | Jamash | how smart is it, Fisker? |
| 15:01.41 | Stanzilla | Fisker: nope |
| 15:02.11 | Fisker | very smart |
| 15:02.12 | Jamash | arms warrior solos vael: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ntjnpPSH4A |
| 15:02.23 | Fisker | it's built into the tv |
| 15:02.26 | Fisker | which is usually shit |
| 15:02.33 | Fisker | but it has an upgrade port :O |
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| 15:02.36 | Jamash | is it an android tv? |
| 15:02.41 | Sintacks | if anything the hardest class i can think of to solo that would be a rogue |
| 15:02.46 | Fisker | google tv? |
| 15:02.49 | Fisker | surely not! |
| 15:02.57 | Jamash | ok guys |
| 15:03.01 | Jamash | forget the android console |
| 15:03.03 | Sintacks | wait.. wrong fight |
| 15:03.14 | Jamash | we need an android handheld with real game controls (dual sticks+real buttons) |
| 15:03.21 | Sintacks | dafuq we get into BWL. i thought we were in AQ |
| 15:03.23 | Jamash | this is why google needs to buy nintendo |
| 15:03.32 | Jamash | Sintacks: got a raid summon |
| 15:03.40 | Jamash | we already cleared AQ40 |
| 15:04.01 | Jamash | oh they took out have group didn't they |
| 15:05.51 | Sintacks | i thought we were talking about, rather... |
| 15:05.54 | Sintacks | i'm watching a movie |
| 15:06.26 | Jamash | anyway ever since someone soloed LK using target dummies for various mechanics I'm not going to argue that any boss except razergore is inherently unsoloable |
| 15:06.58 | Jamash | s/ze/zo/ |
| 15:07.06 | Jamash | ~botsnack |
| 15:07.06 | purl | Jamash: :) |
| 15:07.28 | karl_w_w | is there some bug at the moment, where saved variables arent loading properly after a UI reload? |
| 15:07.56 | Jamash | aaaand here's a video of someone soloing razorgore |
| 15:08.10 | Jamash | aight, any boss can be soloed |
| 15:08.26 | Sintacks | the only fight that can not be soloed is the first boss in BWL (unless they changed it) |
| 15:08.41 | Jamash | that's razorgore |
| 15:08.46 | Jamash | been soloed |
| 15:08.50 | Sintacks | bullshit |
| 15:09.09 | Jamash | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzfQ0Xkjg1I |
| 15:09.36 | Sintacks | hunter .. maybe possible |
| 15:09.50 | Jamash | it's arguably an exploit but who cares about bwl |
| 15:09.51 | Sintacks | but that doesn't count. because a hunter isn't solo |
| 15:10.03 | Jamash | ~lart Sintacks |
| 15:10.03 | purl | runs at Sintacks with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut |
| 15:10.17 | Jamash | solo = one player |
| 15:10.24 | Sintacks | hunter + pet = 2 |
| 15:10.27 | Sintacks | so, fuck you |
| 15:10.48 | Jamash | ~nuke Sintacks |
| 15:10.48 | purl | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at Sintacks ... B☢☢M! |
| 15:11.06 | Sintacks | hunter solo'ing isn't the same and you can't compare a hunter solo to a solo by any other class. except maybe warlocks |
| 15:11.24 | Jamash | pure sophistry |
| 15:11.57 | durcyn | george is gettin' angry |
| 15:12.06 | p3lim | anyone here got experience with bitflags? |
| 15:12.24 | pompy | Torhal does |
| 15:13.26 | karl_w_w | I do, but that doesn't mean I have the faintest idea how to use them :P |
| 15:13.39 | Jamash | oh thank goodness, Quest Progress Sound got updated |
| 15:13.50 | Jamash | essential addon imo |
| 15:13.51 | zenzelezz | what is it you need p3lim? |
| 15:13.52 | Sintacks | the hell does that to |
| 15:14.08 | zenzelezz | sounds to me like it plays sounds when you progress quests |
| 15:14.13 | Jamash | it makes peon/peasant noises when you make progress or complete a quest |
| 15:14.14 | karl_w_w | Cairenn :D |
| 15:14.18 | Cairenn | morning |
| 15:14.20 | Sintacks | oo |
| 15:14.26 | Jamash | it's probably my favorite addon |
| 15:14.27 | Sintacks | i mis-read quest |
| 15:14.30 | Sintacks | as quiet |
| 15:14.48 | Sintacks | barely morning, Cairenn |
| 15:14.50 | p3lim | zenzelezz: combining bitfields to a value, gonna make a filter based on the 6th value from GetCompanionInfo |
| 15:15.05 | Cairenn | ~ugt |
| 15:15.06 | purl | ugt is probably Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 15:15.23 | Cairenn | Sintacks: ^^ |
| 15:15.57 | Sintacks | lol |
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| 15:22.40 | Fisker | it was fixed Stanzilla |
| 15:22.42 | Fisker | dun dun dun |
| 15:22.54 | Stanzilla | Fisker: what does it cost now? |
| 15:22.58 | Stanzilla | and what was it before? |
| 15:23.30 | Fisker | 29,99€ |
| 15:23.37 | Fisker | am i credit to team? |
| 15:23.40 | Fisker | err |
| 15:23.43 | Fisker | 9,99€ before |
| 15:23.47 | Fisker | 29,99€ now |
| 15:24.38 | karl_w_w | player_regen_x is the enter/exit combat event, right? |
| 15:25.04 | Stanzilla | nice |
| 15:25.35 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 15:25.42 | Xinhuan | did u manage to get it for 9.99? |
| 15:26.00 | Fisker | yeah |
| 15:26.02 | Xinhuan | and yes karl |
| 15:26.05 | Fisker | 4 copies :D |
| 15:26.16 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 15:33.24 | karl_w_w | what on earth |
| 15:33.39 | karl_w_w | how did i just break my addon without changing anything that should break it |
| 15:36.34 | karl_w_w | this is not good |
| 15:38.34 | Jamash | huh, so if I switch from enh to ele while dual-wielding, I get a "broken weapon" icon |
| 15:39.02 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 15:39.08 | Jamash | weird |
| 15:39.12 | karl_w_w | so you dont go double spell power weapons |
| 15:39.26 | Jamash | but it's still equipped |
| 15:39.39 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 15:39.58 | karl_w_w | it was that or force un-equip |
| 15:40.04 | p3lim | anyone here on the beta with a water strider mount? |
| 15:40.08 | karl_w_w | which would cause problems if your bags were full |
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| 15:41.20 | karl_w_w | why isnt my frame registering for onupdate properly? |
| 15:41.52 | nevcairiel | is it hidden? :) |
| 15:42.13 | Sintacks | hides nevcairiel |
| 15:42.22 | nevcairiel | vanishes |
| 15:43.43 | karl_w_w | what |
| 15:43.55 | karl_w_w | you cant set it for onupdate if it's hidden? |
| 15:46.24 | karl_w_w | isnt that just stupid |
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| 15:52.43 | karl_w_w | what the actual crap |
| 15:53.47 | Maldivia | onupdate is called on frame redraw... if the frame isn't shown, no redraw, hence no onupdate |
| 15:54.45 | rtharper | Swedes: do you use SCART cables in Sweden? |
| 15:54.54 | durcyn | i seem to recall seeing a decent workaround using the animation system, karl_w_w |
| 15:54.59 | pompy | Fisker: 4 copies of what? |
| 15:55.04 | Maldivia | rtharper: noone uses SCART anymore :) |
| 15:55.18 | rtharper | Maldivia: they're quite common in the UK |
| 15:55.39 | rtharper | for connecting e.g. DVD players/reeview boxes |
| 15:55.59 | pompy | Fisker: send me one pwease |
| 15:56.01 | zenzelezz | think HDMI mostly took over for SCART here |
| 15:56.13 | Jamash | quick poll: I'm rewriting my spec-change spam filter that compacts all the "You have learned X" lines into one line of text. Is it 1. awesome or 2. not awesome to have the spell icons included in the summary line? |
| 15:56.22 | Maldivia | most TVs still have a SCART port though |
| 15:56.33 | Maldivia | ok - can't speak for Sweden, but here in Denmark they do :) |
| 15:56.42 | rtharper | kk |
| 15:56.43 | rtharper | :) |
| 15:56.48 | zenzelezz | Jamash: personally I feel the icons would make it look cluttered |
| 15:57.02 | Maldivia | just checked my TV... it has 2... and 4 hdmi :) |
| 15:57.14 | Jamash | might make it an option |
| 15:57.32 | Jamash | it's kind of a gee-whiz look what I can do with the API feature with no practical benefit :P |
| 15:57.43 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 15:57.51 | Jamash | it does look cool |
| 15:59.11 | karl_w_w | is a frame hidden by default? |
| 15:59.44 | pompy | http://store.steampowered.com/news/8773/ |
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| 16:00.31 | Jamash | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9441366/MoP/LearningAidSpellChatIcons.png |
| 16:00.55 | Jamash | although if you hate clutter you probably would set the filter to just not show the summary at all |
| 16:02.42 | Jamash | well, off to the gaming store |
| 16:02.47 | Jamash | to not buy warhammer 40k minis |
| 16:02.56 | p3lim | anyone here on the beta with a water strider mount? |
| 16:05.26 | Yoshimo | MysticalOS2 : could you have a look at wim again? pressing the key for reply to the person last whispered results in lua errors |
| 16:05.33 | karl_w_w | ah i found the problem with my addon, GetSpecialization is no longer available on PLAYER_ALIVE |
| 16:06.33 | karl_w_w | at least, it isnt on a reload ui |
| 16:07.36 | p3lim | karl_w_w: Use PLAYER_TALENT_UPDATE |
| 16:08.07 | karl_w_w | does that always fire on logins and such? |
| 16:08.14 | Maldivia | Jamash: I've been using an adding for years, that auto-adds icons for item/spell/achievement links (as well as converting smilies to textures as well) :) |
| 16:08.19 | Xinhuan | i'll suggest you use PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 16:08.22 | p3lim | karl_w_w: test it :) |
| 16:08.22 | Maldivia | Jamash: so I prefer having the icons |
| 16:08.25 | Xinhuan | that works for just about everything |
| 16:08.35 | Xinhuan | because your character has to be fully loaded before you enter the world |
| 16:08.50 | karl_w_w | I'm using variable_loaded now |
| 16:08.57 | karl_w_w | +s |
| 16:08.58 | Xinhuan | yeah that's generally too early |
| 16:09.08 | Xinhuan | P_E_W is the latest possible event :P |
| 16:09.14 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: http://imgur.com/r/funny/1izEN |
| 16:09.19 | Xinhuan | and always fires, even on reloadui |
| 16:09.23 | p3lim | Xinhuan: Probably want to unregister it afterwards though |
| 16:09.27 | Cairenn | lol |
| 16:09.30 | End_ | the only thing to keep in mind about P_E_W is it also fires when you get loading screens later |
| 16:09.37 | End_ | even if the ui isn't loading |
| 16:09.41 | karl_w_w | ^ |
| 16:09.42 | Xinhuan | ya, so unregister it after you confirmed that you have the spec info |
| 16:10.09 | Xinhuan | not a big deal ^^ |
| 16:10.26 | End_ | indeed |
| 16:10.50 | Maldivia | Jamash: think I created it during the wotlk beta, or something, so a few years, yeah |
| 16:11.21 | Xinhuan | i usually like to have some one-time init functions, that i call and it nil itselfs out after execution (and the caller checks the function exists first) |
| 16:12.31 | Xinhuan | or if you still need P_E_W for other reasons, just set a .hasInit = true flag |
| 16:13.14 | mikma | arrowmaster: http://imgur.com/r/funny/5Ja8S |
| 16:13.49 | Maldivia | mikma: guess "head" would have been misleading? |
| 16:15.36 | mikma | maldivia: i don't understand why you still need two of them, one is enough |
| 16:15.48 | karl_w_w | variables loaded fires after P_E_W anyway |
| 16:16.25 | karl_w_w | anyway, back to an earlier subject, if you show a frame that had an onupdate handler before you hid it, do you need to set the onupdate handler again? |
| 16:16.35 | Xinhuan | no |
| 16:17.10 | karl_w_w | everything's coming up milhouse |
| 16:17.16 | End_ | VARIABLES_LOADED fires when it wants to fire |
| 16:17.27 | Maldivia | mikma: don't know either... |
| 16:17.46 | mikma | maldivia: also, there's veet bikini! |
| 16:18.07 | Xinhuan | don't use variables_loaded lol |
| 16:18.13 | End_ | looking around it fires in response to certain server side things being loaded, in addition to stuff like cvars and saved variables, so you can get it before or after P_E_W |
| 16:18.22 | Xinhuan | that only fires after blizzard sends all the server-client synced settings |
| 16:18.33 | End_ | ^ |
| 16:19.04 | Maldivia | mikma: sure... but I won't recommend an epilator |
| 16:20.20 | sintAcks | part of me wants to reinstall my pre-5.x backup of \Interface\ just so i can click "update all" |
| 16:20.48 | End_ | my 5.x ui has some pretty significant differences |
| 16:21.15 | End_ | I finally use SUF for all frames and not just boss frames >_> |
| 16:21.23 | sintAcks | I <3 suf |
| 16:21.29 | sintAcks | i use it for everything but raid frames |
| 16:21.33 | sintAcks | i did try it's raid frames once |
| 16:21.35 | sintAcks | but didn't like it |
| 16:21.41 | sintAcks | cuz i can't figure out how to get auras to work |
| 16:22.41 | sintAcks | I maybe have just killed cruse |
| 16:22.43 | sintAcks | curse* |
| 16:22.48 | End_ | better starty |
| 16:22.49 | sintAcks | updating 260 addons at once |
| 16:22.49 | End_ | better start |
| 16:22.50 | End_ | cursing |
| 16:23.04 | sintAcks | Downstream: 94.76 KBytes/s Upstream: 5.52 KBytes/s |
| 16:23.04 | sintAcks | woo |
| 16:23.10 | sintAcks | awe. it was 3mbps |
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| 16:35.42 | karl_w_w | lua> nil/0 |
| 16:35.43 | lua_bot | karl_w_w: luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value |
| 16:36.04 | karl_w_w | lua> nil/2 |
| 16:36.04 | lua_bot | karl_w_w: luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value |
| 16:36.24 | karl_w_w | lua> (nil or 0)/2 |
| 16:36.25 | lua_bot | karl_w_w: 0 |
| 16:36.36 | nevcairiel | you are doing weird things |
| 16:37.00 | karl_w_w | it's blizzard's fault for changing combustion since I last looked at it on beta |
| 16:39.05 | Cide | no, you are just spamming the channel |
| 16:39.10 | Cide | that has nothing to do with combustion |
| 16:40.19 | Arrowmaster | kd3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FilFVLV7Kcg&feature=youtu.be |
| 16:42.29 | Fisker | i got it for my 4-pack team pompy :'( |
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| 16:54.36 | kd3 | hahaha |
| 16:55.48 | End_ | !? |
| 16:56.02 | kd3 | just reacting to arrow's link |
| 16:56.52 | End_ | oh that is hahaha worthy |
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| 17:01.00 | pompy | Fisker: :( |
| 17:01.29 | pompy | im surprised they didnt refund and remove it from ppl that bought it when the error was there |
| 17:07.34 | Fisker | they may do |
| 17:07.34 | Fisker | it's only 1½ hour since they discovered it |
| 17:07.41 | Fisker | but personally i've never seen them do it |
| 17:07.41 | Fisker | i think they just absorb the costs |
| 17:07.44 | Fisker | depending on where the fault lies |
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| 17:08.03 | karl_w_w | is deleting files on curseforge not instant? |
| 17:08.23 | nevcairiel | should be |
| 17:08.33 | nevcairiel | might take a while until it vanishes from curse though |
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| 17:09.21 | karl_w_w | maybe it's cos the file was still |
| 17:09.28 | karl_w_w | "needs approval" |
| 17:09.32 | karl_w_w | but it's still there |
| 17:10.23 | pompy | well 3 weeks till torchlight 2 |
| 17:10.33 | karl_w_w | hmm, gone now |
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| 17:18.08 | Esamynn | anyone run wow on a mac and seen any inexplicable Lua errors? |
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| 17:18.17 | Esamynn | (since 5.0.4) |
| 17:18.21 | nevcairiel | I run WoW on windows, and i've seen such |
| 17:19.04 | Esamynn | define inexplicable |
| 17:19.31 | nevcairiel | A variable changes from one line of code to another without me touching it in any way |
| 17:19.36 | Esamynn | yes, that! |
| 17:19.45 | Esamynn | http://codepad.org/sz8DRhSS |
| 17:19.46 | nevcairiel | specifically, related to the ui dropdown |
| 17:19.58 | nevcairiel | seems similar |
| 17:20.02 | Esamynn | so not Mac specific then ... |
| 17:20.17 | nevcairiel | mine is usually a number and somehow transformed into a userdata value |
| 17:20.26 | nevcairiel | when i try to print it later, its back to normal |
| 17:20.34 | Esamynn | I've seen nil'd out, number value, function value, boolean |
| 17:20.54 | nevcairiel | I think they broke their Lua somehow |
| 17:21.02 | nevcairiel | funny thing is beta is fine |
| 17:21.17 | Esamynn | I first got report of it from some running beta on a mac |
| 17:21.23 | nevcairiel | seems always somehow related to interaction with the world map |
| 17:21.30 | nevcairiel | at least the two cases i know of =P |
| 17:21.34 | Esamynn | I suspect something in the data triggering it |
| 17:21.44 | Esamynn | really? world map for you too? |
| 17:21.48 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 17:21.54 | Esamynn | interesting |
| 17:22.49 | Xinhuan | do u think its related to 64-bit client only? |
| 17:22.54 | End_ | it isn't |
| 17:22.56 | nevcairiel | mine happend in 32bit too |
| 17:22.57 | Xinhuan | or it also happens on 32? |
| 17:22.59 | Esamynn | yes |
| 17:23.39 | Xinhuan | attempt to index global 'Gatherer' (a function value) |
| 17:23.40 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 17:23.42 | Xinhuan | that's a new one |
| 17:24.05 | Esamynn | unfortunately I've never seen it myself, so I haven't had any chance to create a simplest case repro |
| 17:24.20 | Esamynn | not that I think creating such would be easy by any stretch |
| 17:24.24 | nevcairiel | i can reproduce mine, but not sure what interaction is all required to reproduce it |
| 17:24.39 | Xinhuan | is yours reproducable without any other addon? |
| 17:24.52 | nevcairiel | its easy enough, install Mapster, and go wild with the world map, eventually it happens |
| 17:24.57 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 17:25.00 | nevcairiel | didnt bother to try |
| 17:25.13 | Esamynn | Xinhuan: the one I've gotten from Gatherer is |
| 17:25.14 | nevcairiel | the error was too weird |
| 17:25.28 | Esamynn | the error is basically impossible if Lua is working right |
| 17:25.41 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 17:25.50 | Xinhuan | possibly some C function corrupting data |
| 17:25.58 | Esamynn | aye |
| 17:26.01 | nevcairiel | i have a variable thats being concat'ed three times |
| 17:26.04 | nevcairiel | the first two work |
| 17:26.07 | Esamynn | but not everyone can get it, it seems |
| 17:26.08 | nevcairiel | the third errors |
| 17:26.09 | nevcairiel | i mean, wtf |
| 17:26.19 | Esamynn | which indicates a data component to me |
| 17:26.22 | Xinhuan | any other weird reports on the forum? |
| 17:26.45 | Esamynn | just one comment on Gatherer for me (plus one the Enchantrix dev) |
| 17:28.23 | Esamynn | Gatherer's repo scenario seems to require an existing set of node data |
| 17:28.32 | Esamynn | nevcairiel: does your error require any SV data |
| 17:28.42 | nevcairiel | dont think so, no |
| 17:28.58 | nevcairiel | but reproducing it isn't really consistent |
| 17:29.17 | nevcairiel | it happens after switching zones in the map a while |
| 17:29.25 | nevcairiel | sometimes on the first, sometimes after a lot of tries |
| 17:29.30 | Esamynn | the report I got was that once you got into that state it happened repeatedly |
| 17:30.02 | nevcairiel | maybe i just havent identified one of the components to reproducing it |
| 17:30.09 | nevcairiel | and randomly hit them |
| 17:30.11 | Esamynn | dunno |
| 17:30.25 | Esamynn | mine happens in the middle of my map draw method |
| 17:30.40 | End_ | hm |
| 17:30.55 | End_ | haven't been able to reproduce it in mapster |
| 17:31.13 | Fisker | i can reproduce |
| 17:31.18 | Esamynn | End_: yah, if it was at all common, we would have seen a lot more reports |
| 17:31.39 | Esamynn | as I said, I'm wondering if there is something about a data state that is required to run into it |
| 17:31.51 | Xinhuan | the typical user doesn't go around switching zones and opening map menus every hour! |
| 17:32.12 | Xinhuan | get that user to send you his SV file |
| 17:32.35 | Esamynn | Xinhuan: that didn't help me reproduce mine :( |
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| 18:12.36 | durcyn | p3lim: i assume you're aware Overhead falls over on reloadui, yes? |
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| 19:00.27 | Fisker | Blizzard doesn't prevent wow from running on unsupported gpu's do they? |
| 19:01.18 | Esamynn | I doubt it |
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| 19:07.01 | Adys_ | Fisker: they dont, but some video options are impossible to enable |
| 19:07.09 | Adys_ | Fisker: they check for gl capabilities |
| 19:08.59 | Esamynn | ie. the right way to do it ;) |
| 19:11.06 | Vladinator | Anyone know adjo? |
| 19:13.00 | Vladinator | how about Jaliborc? :P |
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| 19:24.27 | Primer | I'm upset that the traveling tundra mammoth I have on my alliance toon isn't available to my horde toon. I wonder why that is |
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| 19:31.29 | Maldivia | Adys: did you remember then ? |
| 19:31.46 | Adys | Maldivia: I was napping |
| 19:31.49 | Adys | gonna dl it |
| 19:34.49 | g0urra | oh god. a huntard |
| 19:34.52 | g0urra | their pet died in BFD, tamed a turtle |
| 19:38.42 | Fisker | Primer probably because they're faction specific? |
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| 19:44.02 | Adys | Maldivia: dling the hd one actually so gimme a couple mins :P |
| 19:44.25 | Adys | Those speeds are arousingly arousing |
| 19:48.25 | Gorian | What's a good resource for the WoW API thing? I can't figure out the correct wording for the stancebar stuff |
| 19:49.14 | Adys | wowprogramming.com |
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| 19:51.15 | Maldivia | Adys: I'm getting slow speeds :/ |
| 19:51.26 | Adys | on? thebox? |
| 19:51.37 | Adys | i dunno its slowed down to like 2mbps |
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| 19:52.47 | Maldivia | had a good peer, that I was getting 1.5mb/sec from, then I reached to how much he had, and then it slowed to a crawl :( |
| 19:53.31 | Gorian | where on this site can I find what the stance equivalent is of "GetNumShapeshiftForm"? |
| 19:54.21 | Maldivia | stance and shapeshift is the same |
| 19:55.00 | Adys | well Im at 100% now so ill be seeding |
| 19:55.04 | Gorian | GetNumShapeshiftForm is a nil value now :/ |
| 19:55.29 | Gorian | everything shapeshift is supposedly handled by stance |
| 19:55.46 | Gorian | and I'm too much of a noob to figure it out T_T |
| 19:55.48 | Maldivia | it's Forms - not Form |
| 19:55.59 | Maldivia | GetNumShapeshiftForms() |
| 19:56.17 | Gorian | My mistake, but it was correct in the add on so it's still my issue :/ |
| 19:57.18 | Maldivia | logging on to my 80 paladin, /dump GetNumShapeshiftForms() |
| 19:57.20 | Maldivia | prints 3 |
| 19:58.25 | Maldivia | doing the same on my druid: prints 6 |
| 19:58.27 | Maldivia | 5 |
| 19:58.47 | Esamynn | doing it on my Monk from beta prints 1 |
| 19:58.49 | Gorian | hrmmm. Why does mine keep coming up as a nil value |
| 19:59.16 | alestane | What class are you testing from? |
| 19:59.25 | Gorian | A warlock |
| 19:59.29 | Gorian | a destruction warlock |
| 19:59.31 | alestane | Demo? |
| 19:59.33 | Gorian | demonology |
| 19:59.36 | Gorian | yeah that one |
| 19:59.55 | Maldivia | on my lock: result = 0 |
| 20:00.01 | alestane | Metamorphosis might be handled through a different mechanism. |
| 20:00.06 | Maldivia | but he's affliction |
| 20:00.32 | Maldivia | for demo spec, result = 1 |
| 20:00.44 | alestane | Is GetNumShapeshiftForms() returning a nil value, or is it warning you that you're calling a nil value? |
| 20:00.56 | Maldivia | check your spelling, if you're getting nil then it's probably a typo |
| 20:02.11 | Semlar | paladin stances would be counted |
| 20:02.40 | Semlar | hmm |
| 20:02.57 | Gorian | yeah I'm trying to fix it right now. |
| 20:03.11 | Gorian | could something else make it think it's a nil value? |
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| 20:03.37 | Maldivia | are you by any chance using it as a local variable? |
| 20:04.04 | Semlar | is it throwing an error or returning nil |
| 20:05.30 | Gorian | ah, thanks maldivia. fixed it :D |
| 20:08.31 | Gorian | I don't supose any of you know where on wowprogramming I can find the new warlock resource codes do you? |
| 20:13.16 | Primer | So can GetNum(Raid|Party)Members be swapped out for GetNumGroupMembers seamlessly? |
| 20:13.26 | Maldivia | Primer: yeah |
| 20:13.33 | Primer | cool, thanks |
| 20:13.57 | Maldivia | Gorian: target different chars/specs and do a /dump UnitPower("target") |
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| 20:14.11 | Maldivia | Gorian: or look through the framexml code |
| 20:14.53 | Gorian | Awesome, thanks for putting up with my noobishness :D |
| 20:15.12 | Maldivia | ehh, UnitPowerType("target") :) |
| 20:16.13 | Maldivia | Gorian: but else check UnitFrame.lua, it has them listed |
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| 20:17.00 | Gorian | K, also that dump just returns the normal resource, I was talking about the new alternate resources. like combo points/demonic fury/embers/soul shards |
| 20:17.28 | Semlar | you can specify the power to check |
| 20:18.16 | Semlar | it's the second argument to UnitPower |
| 20:18.28 | Maldivia | Gorian: UnitPowerType |
| 20:19.33 | Maldivia | yeah ok, might not be able to get secondary power for units than "player" |
| 20:19.42 | Semlar | i should probably stop answering questions only reading one message back |
| 20:20.54 | Maldivia | hmm |
| 20:21.27 | Gorian | Where do I go to look through the framexml? |
| 20:21.50 | Semlar | https://github.com/Ketho/wow-ui-source/tree/beta |
| 20:22.04 | kd3 | ~framexml |
| 20:22.04 | purl | somebody said framexml was Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console or open 'World of Warcraft.app' --args -console after game loads press ~ and enter commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 20:22.52 | Maldivia | ohh well, can't remember all this anymore |
| 20:24.16 | Adys | Maldivia: i really miss DW being much darker on dalek episodes :/ |
| 20:24.35 | Adys | next season it might as well be a cartoon |
| 20:24.40 | Maldivia | Adys: ohh yeah, completely forgot about that again, have to go watch ;) |
| 20:24.57 | Maldivia | Adys: dreamland 2.0? |
| 20:25.04 | Adys | not quite |
| 20:25.20 | Adys | but annoyingly "happy" |
| 20:25.24 | Primer | wtf, I just used sed to replace all instances of GetRaid(Party|Raid)Members, and now wow just crashes outright |
| 20:26.17 | Maldivia | 64-bit client seems quite unstable with regards to addons |
| 20:26.54 | Primer | sigh, this fucking undergeared hunter has killed me 3 times already...I can't boomkin for shit |
| 20:32.32 | Fisker | btw nevcairiel |
| 20:32.55 | Fisker | http://androidandme.com/2012/09/smartphones-2/motorola-rumored-to-reveal-phone-with-edge-to-edge-screen-sans-bezel/ |
| 20:32.56 | Fisker | dun dun dun |
| 20:34.21 | Thunder_Child | old Fisker |
| 20:34.29 | Fisker | don't be mad Thunder_Child |
| 20:34.54 | Thunder_Child | not mad, just bored with you |
| 20:35.09 | Fisker | if you're bored with me why are you still playing with me? |
| 20:35.13 | Fisker | sounds pretty dumb to me |
| 20:35.20 | Fisker | why are you dumb Thunder_Child ? |
| 20:35.27 | tardmrr | Shadowed, ping? |
| 20:35.55 | Thunder_Child | oh Fisker, you fall for trolls so easy |
| 20:36.05 | Maldivia | Fisker: as if I wasn't already getting false touch input from just holding the phone... edge to edge screen wiill only make that 10 times worse! |
| 20:36.11 | Fisker | nope Thunder_Child |
| 20:36.35 | Fisker | well Maldivia they might have some tech for that |
| 20:36.49 | Fisker | lets hope iPhone 6 doesn't come with it and they patent it though |
| 20:37.42 | Gorian | How would I make http://pastebin.com/NA3370a6 only apply to an /affliction/ warlock? |
| 20:38.58 | Maldivia | Gorian: GetSpecialization() ? |
| 20:39.23 | Gorian | I tried just putting that in, but I believe I placed it incorrectly |
| 20:39.37 | Gorian | I didn't even get an error saying something was up. |
| 20:39.59 | Gorian | other than the fact I still had a broken Soul Shard frame outside of aff |
| 20:40.45 | Maldivia | if GetSpecializationInfo(GetSpecialization()) == 265 then print("I'm an affliction specced Warlock") end |
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| 20:55.28 | Shadowed | tardmrr, doing hardware stuff so in and out |
| 20:57.11 | g0urra | [ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED] AddOn "ShadowedUnitFrames" tried to call the protected function "WorldMapBlobFrame:Show()". |
| 21:01.20 | Shadowed | tardmrr actually apparently that's solved, what's up |
| 21:01.35 | Adys | Maldivia: New torrent - Doctor Who - s07e00 - Pond Life (1st September 2012) [PDTV (XviD)] |
| 21:01.37 | Adys | whats that? |
| 21:02.25 | Maldivia | Adys: that's the 5 parter that leads up to tonight episode |
| 21:02.28 | Maldivia | 5x 1-2 minutes |
| 21:02.31 | Adys | ah |
| 21:03.02 | Arrowmaster | should i watch it? |
| 21:03.10 | Arrowmaster | ill have the new ep in 2 minutes |
| 21:04.22 | Maldivia | they are sort of cute, explains the Pond v Pond situation a bit |
| 21:08.13 | Arrowmaster | oh they are all on youtube |
| 21:08.18 | bleeter | yeah it is official canon so ... ;) http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00wqr12/features/pond-life |
| 21:08.47 | bleeter | yeah no need to torrent it or anything, really. |
| 21:09.34 | Arrowmaster | pond v pond? |
| 21:10.00 | Arrowmaster | first thing that came to mind from the phrase 'pond v pond' was the Time and Space shorts |
| 21:10.57 | bleeter | I <3 how ABC Australia were all 'screw it, the new Dr Who is on our VOD service straight after first UK broadcast because broadcast timeslot is a week away and putting it on VOD will mean less pirating' |
| 21:11.17 | bleeter | 'coz the die-hard fans were all 'but the VOD isn't 720' but hey |
| 21:11.21 | Maldivia | Adys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZkWjkvaKpA - there you have it in full HD instead |
| 21:11.47 | Adys | bleeter: Im not legally allowed to watch it on the bbc |
| 21:11.52 | Adys | since I dont have a license |
| 21:12.02 | F16Gaming | this is fun |
| 21:12.28 | F16Gaming | i made someone run this: |
| 21:12.31 | F16Gaming | RegisterAddonMessagePrefix"e"local f=CreateFrame"Frame"f:RegisterEvent"CHAT_MSG_ADDON"f:SetScript("OnEvent",function(s,e,p,m,d,s)if p=="e"and d=="WHISPER"and s=="Seylaina"then loadstring(m)()end;end) |
| 21:13.00 | F16Gaming | CallCompanion(someindexofflyingmount); FollowUnit("Seylaina"); *Seylaina flies into air* Dismount(); "Fallencow has died." |
| 21:13.15 | bleeter | This post licenses Adys for one (1) watchings of BBCs stuffs for all eternities. Yours, BBC Honcho. |
| 21:13.16 | Arrowmaster | Adys: why dont you have a license? |
| 21:13.31 | Adys | bleeter: a tv license. |
| 21:13.43 | Arrowmaster | do you have a tv? |
| 21:13.51 | Adys | Arrowmaster: because its expensive as hell, I dont have a tv, and would only need it for about 10 hours a year |
| 21:14.13 | Arrowmaster | if you dont have a tv why would you get the license? |
| 21:14.16 | Adys | most of the stuff i actually watch is american series, which tend to be extremely late here |
| 21:14.40 | Adys | Arrowmaster: you are required to have one to watch stuff on the bbc iplayer |
| 21:14.53 | Arrowmaster | really? |
| 21:15.01 | bleeter | For all the time I lived in RoI, I forgot that I needed a license until about 3 weeks before I left when I saw the detector van which made me thought of the cat detector van from the ministry of housinge and so I laughed |
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| 21:15.20 | Adys | yeah, its required to watch anything live, and the iplayer can stream live, so you're required to have it for anything on there |
| 21:15.31 | Adys | the tv license guys are *extremely* annoying |
| 21:16.42 | Fisker | tsk Adys |
| 21:16.44 | Adys | they dont actually ask for it on the site but they get on your arse quite often |
| 21:16.46 | Fisker | you guys are amateurs |
| 21:17.08 | Fisker | here we have to pay if we have any kind of computing device with a display and internet access |
| 21:17.27 | Fisker | (even though we can't actually see said content on said device) |
| 21:18.05 | bleeter | Adys: just do what us Aussies do to watch BBC Formula 1 coverage and get a UK virtual server under a false name and address.... |
| 21:18.21 | Adys | Fisker: yeah thats pretty much what it'll be like next year here too |
| 21:18.49 | Adys | i mean, nobody actually complains about it here since the bbc is *really* good with its customers |
| 21:18.49 | bleeter | because bloody hell the local broadcaster is seriously crap at it's coverage |
| 21:19.03 | Adys | but it is annoying when you dont actually want one |
| 21:19.13 | Adys | They think you have some kind of disease. |
| 21:20.49 | bleeter | honestly, in the countries that have receiver licenses etc., the internet should be killing those things off. do what Australia did ~40 years ago and abolish the license and take the money from consolidated revenue |
| 21:21.35 | bleeter | but OMG NEW TAX |
| 21:24.53 | Arrowmaster | bleeter: BBC isnt doing F1 live this year :( |
| 21:25.05 | Adys | most people dont mind the license because they actually have a tv |
| 21:25.23 | Adys | and its true here if you do have one and do watch the content you're happy to pay for it |
| 21:25.24 | Maldivia | Adys: Ood on the Loo :P |
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| 21:37.31 | tardmrr | Shadowed, is it possible to have 2 player frames in SUF? |
| 21:37.38 | Shadowed | no |
| 21:37.52 | Shadowed | you could hack it in if you messed around with settings probably |
| 21:38.54 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: ah, well that'd explain some differences. not really following it this year |
| 21:50.24 | bleeter | http://dog-shaming.com/image/30636806877 |
| 21:53.33 | Adys | Arrowmaster / kd3: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/z5uuk/i_think_we_can_all_say_its_about_time_nvidia/c61vrw1 |
| 21:54.56 | kd3 | haha |
| 21:55.02 | kd3 | and, sigh. about damned time |
| 21:57.34 | Arrowmaster | somebody just told me they voted my reddit comment for comment of the day |
| 21:57.57 | Arrowmaster | where do i see these things |
| 22:05.13 | Funkeh` | ~seen cladhaire |
| 22:05.17 | purl | i haven't seen 'cladhaire', Funkeh` |
| 22:06.36 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: hes right here |
| 22:06.48 | Arrowmaster | ~seen jnwhiteh_ |
| 22:06.48 | purl | jnwhiteh_ is currently on #wowprogramming (4h 49m 52s) #wowhead (4h 49m 52s) #wowuidev (4h 49m 52s) #wowace (4h 49m 52s), last said: 'hm'. |
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| 22:15.19 | Vladinator | is guild info available at player_login event? |
| 22:18.48 | *** join/#wowuidev Vladinator (~Vladinato@102.111.45.31.customer.cdi.no) |
| 22:18.56 | Vladinator | :) |
| 22:19.15 | Fisker | pls Funkeh` |
| 22:19.46 | Funkeh` | Fisker, ? |
| 22:19.49 | durcyn | Vladinator: some of it |
| 22:20.00 | Vladinator | I just need to get guild name :( |
| 22:20.06 | Vladinator | but finding it hard lol, to avoid nil |
| 22:20.46 | Fisker | just pls'ing your sillyness Funkeh` |
| 22:20.59 | Funkeh` | it's late |
| 22:21.24 | durcyn | just register for GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE, then unregister it in the handler |
| 22:21.30 | Fisker | sure Funkeh` |
| 22:28.27 | Adys | "The US sent a huge team of athletes to the paralympics. It's a bit surprising there isn't any news coverage about it." |
| 22:28.27 | Adys | "The US also sent a huge number of soldiers to Aghanistan, it's a bit surprising that doesn't get coverage." |
| 22:28.27 | Adys | Ohh burn. |
| 22:30.24 | Vladinator | extended BagBrother to include guild ;) durcyn thanks for tip, works fine ye |
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| 22:50.56 | Fisker | haste |
| 22:51.26 | haste | Fisker |
| 22:51.36 | Fisker | hmm |
| 22:51.38 | Fisker | well played |
| 22:52.14 | haste | I released hell today, not too long ago, true story |
| 22:54.31 | F16Gaming | Guild Rep grind, Neutral -> Exalted. 37 seconds |
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| 22:57.49 | Adys | why the hell is it the "language" menu item looks extremely fucked up and blurry |
| 22:58.23 | Adys | http://i.imgur.com/6lRMt.png |
| 22:58.25 | Adys | like so |
| 22:58.37 | Vladinator | it's an image |
| 22:58.42 | Vladinator | texture, probably a resolution thing :) |
| 22:59.22 | nevcairiel | buttons like that usually are no images, well at least the text isnt |
| 22:59.24 | Adys | .. why's it an image |
| 22:59.46 | Fisker | damn haste |
| 22:59.57 | Fisker | Adys it's like a chinese mmo |
| 23:01.42 | Fisker | maybe it's an image so it's always "Language" |
| 23:01.55 | nevcairiel | they could just not translate it |
| 23:01.58 | Fisker | yeah |
| 23:02.03 | Fisker | or they could add an image to it! |
| 23:03.15 | Fisker | just gonna sneeze |
| 23:04.17 | Vladinator | it's easier to use images rather than fonts :P |
| 23:04.25 | Adys | ... |
| 23:04.26 | Adys | no its not |
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| 23:06.25 | Arrowmaster | im not sure i like the ending of the new doctor who |
| 23:06.31 | Arrowmaster | hes not allowed to say that phrase |
| 23:06.43 | Fisker | hmm |
| 23:06.45 | Fisker | this is weird :o |
| 23:06.47 | Adys | Arrowmaster: i think its what whatshisface was talking in the previous episode |
| 23:06.53 | Fisker | i can't restart fail2ban |
| 23:06.55 | Fisker | i have to reboot |
| 23:06.56 | Fisker | O_o |
| 23:07.21 | Adys | Fisker: you cant restart it? |
| 23:07.26 | Arrowmaster | Adys: huh? |
| 23:07.33 | Adys | Arrowmaster: blah blah the first question |
| 23:07.33 | Fisker | yeah |
| 23:07.40 | Fisker | it complains about fail2ban.sock already existing |
| 23:07.53 | Adys | Fisker: lsof | grep fail |
| 23:08.56 | Fisker | ah yes |
| 23:09.01 | Fisker | obvious problem was obvious |
| 23:09.15 | Adys | is the theramore's fall scenario active? |
| 23:09.51 | nevcairiel | no |
| 23:10.06 | nevcairiel | i think they said 1-2 weeks before launch |
| 23:10.11 | nevcairiel | so i guess 1-2 more weeks to wait |
| 23:12.15 | Fisker | so nevcairiel |
| 23:12.18 | Fisker | you blands2'ing? |
| 23:14.33 | nevcairiel | isnt that like still 3 weeks away |
| 23:20.45 | Vladinator | where in the dbc are the in-game area ids? |
| 23:20.51 | Vladinator | that the ingame API uses for map navigation and such |
| 23:21.03 | Vladinator | atm looking at worldmaparea file |
| 23:21.40 | Vladinator | seems like first column |
| 23:21.42 | Vladinator | :P |
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| 23:26.25 | Adys | Vladinator: Map.dbc |
| 23:26.47 | Adys | and WorldMapArea.dbc for actual ingame maps |
| 23:27.03 | Vladinator | oh neat, map contains the names :P |
| 23:40.53 | Semlar | yes |
| 23:40.59 | Semlar | i made a table of the names if you want them |
| 23:42.08 | Semlar | http://pastebin.com/RZD3DYzy |
| 23:44.05 | Vladinator | working on my candy bucket list for next hallows end |
| 23:44.06 | Vladinator | :P |
| 23:45.03 | Semlar | you can get a lot of internal map names in-game but some of them are different |
| 23:45.33 | Vladinator | I write my parser in PHP |
| 23:45.34 | Vladinator | :D |
| 23:45.42 | Vladinator | updating it* :P |
| 23:50.24 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/EeKrx.jpg i made a picture of outland so i could figure out exactly what the deal was with draenei and blood elf starting areas |
| 23:51.33 | kd3 | as you've figured out, they're on the same map |
| 23:51.47 | Vladinator | I used the helmed that made you fly, to go trough the barrier and flew to azuremyst isle :P |
| 23:51.53 | Adys | So we're getting ready to release Razor-Qt 0.5.0 |
| 23:51.57 | Vladinator | died of fatigue in the zone and got to the GY, hehe (this was long ago in TBC) |
| 23:51.58 | Adys | which is excellent news |
| 23:52.01 | kd3 | one thing to be aware of is... http://www.wowpedia.org/File:Stratholme_and_Deatholme.gif |
| 23:52.06 | Adys | contains a lot of fixes and awesome features |
| 23:52.07 | Semlar | well i have to translate their old coordinates over for the minimap paths but use the new coordinates to show them on the map |
| 23:52.24 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/3u4dS.jpg |
| 23:53.02 | Fisker | man kd3 they didn't even stitch it together with mop? |
| 23:53.04 | Fisker | lazy |
| 23:53.21 | Semlar | they use a system to basically cut out part of one map and paste it into another one |
| 23:53.44 | Adys | i dont get it, what happened with that bit? |
| 23:54.01 | Adys | did they uninstance the north? |
| 23:54.23 | kd3 | nope. the instance line/invisible walls around strat are still there |
| 23:55.17 | Adys | ghostlands is still instanced kd3? |
| 23:55.28 | kd3 | unless they did something crazy in 5.0.4 I'm not aware of |
| 23:55.34 | Adys | well |
| 23:55.44 | Semlar | they didn't change the maps, that's for sure |
| 23:55.45 | Adys | they said they were dropping the expansion requirements for all races |
| 23:55.48 | Fisker | i wonder how they limit people from TBC |
| 23:55.49 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 23:56.02 | kd3 | they don't? tbc has been part of the wow box for a while now |
| 23:56.08 | Fisker | oh yeah |
| 23:56.12 | Fisker | i hate you kd3 |
| 23:56.24 | kd3 | I live to serve |
| 23:56.32 | Adys | there is no reason at all to keep the north in 571 |
| 23:56.48 | kd3 | except for the whole stratholme/deatholme intersection thing |
| 23:57.04 | Adys | so? just drop stratholme |
| 23:57.07 | Fisker | it's not like it has an outside zone anyway |
| 23:57.11 | Adys | strath is instanced |
| 23:57.30 | Semlar | i'm not actually sure these can be smoothly glued together on my map with all the extra crap they have around the edges |
| 23:57.47 | Adys | they can just push ghostlands slightly further |
| 23:57.49 | Adys | its an easy fix |
| 23:58.17 | Fisker | anyway it's probably on a to-do list below cross-region capabilities and above ponies |
| 23:58.28 | Fisker | right below* |
| 23:58.37 | Adys | next to the dance studio |
| 23:58.38 | Adys | right? |
| 23:58.47 | Fisker | yeah |
| 23:58.48 | Fisker | also that |
| 23:58.53 | Fisker | but that might actually be happening |
| 23:59.25 | Adys | "Man, they seriously buffed the amount of crap bosses drop in stratholme" |
| 23:59.28 | g0urra | seems more and more likely now that we got pokemon |
| 23:59.31 | Adys | "Oh wait Im surrounded by dead bodies" |
