| 00:14.26 | Unkle | there's the one in Vash'jir for the eels. |
| 00:15.25 | neutronimity | There is one in Blackrock Caverns |
| 00:15.44 | neutronimity | Maraudon. |
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| 00:54.13 | Adys | "Everyone hates commuting. (Disclaimer: I work at home, my commute is only about five seconds between my bedroom and my home office.)" |
| 00:54.14 | Adys | hah |
| 00:54.26 | kd3 | *snrk* |
| 01:01.24 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 01:02.50 | Cairenn | although mine is probably closer to 30 seconds |
| 01:03.18 | Amarande | ? |
| 01:03.45 | Cairenn | My commute |
| 01:03.52 | Unkle | No one likes it when someone brags about a negligible commute. *nods* |
| 01:03.58 | Unkle | :P |
| 01:04.41 | Cairenn | "No one likes it when someone brags about being able to leave the office." *nods* <== fixed it for you |
| 01:05.01 | Cairenn | :p |
| 01:05.13 | Unkle | You works from home, you takes your chances. It also means nothing is NSFW. |
| 01:05.20 | Cairenn | heh |
| 01:05.22 | Unkle | So, you still win. |
| 01:06.49 | Cairenn | Besides, I wasn't bragging, I was replying to the topic ;) |
| 01:08.16 | Unkle | Yeah, yeah, yeah…30-second commute. My commute is so short, it breaks the laws of physics and I arrive before I left! |
| 01:11.02 | Cairenn | lol |
| 01:12.46 | Shirik | recently got kicked off of having work email on his phone; suddenly I find I actually have free time |
| 01:13.45 | Shirik | benefits of working away from home is that you can actually leave your work behind |
| 01:14.42 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 01:20.24 | Unkle | Yes, that is a bennefit. "leaving" work is a good mental gear-shift and extends the lifespan of your ability to enjoy work. |
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| 01:21.31 | Unkle | Heh, turned in all my employer-issued devices today. Gave 'em back their desktop, the iPad, and the phone. Such a relief. |
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| 01:31.19 | Amarande | Especially since your employer made you use an Apple device. :| |
| 01:31.31 | Unkle | I like Apple devices. |
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| 01:44.30 | mckenziemc | Unkle: are you done dealing with lusers? |
| 01:45.03 | Unkle | Negative, but I'll be dealing with a different set and one that doesn't refresh every semester. |
| 01:46.45 | Unkle | Anyone here used the Chrome OS? - |
| 01:47.50 | Unkle | Crazy as it sounds, I'm sort of considering a Chromebook. |
| 01:51.04 | durcyn | yeah, that sure does sound crazy |
| 01:53.25 | Unkle | I was just wondering if anyone had had a chance to use or play with one. |
| 01:55.22 | Primer | Some addon that's changing tooltips is causing me to fucking DC |
| 01:55.42 | Primer | UI gets really sluggish when I hover over items |
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| 01:59.39 | pompy | http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/523982_371357186270932_2054458194_n.jpg |
| 02:00.27 | Sum_Wun | nice |
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| 02:04.53 | Iriel | #1 and #4 are the same |
| 02:05.47 | Unkle | Because they certainly don't teach logic or critical thinking. |
| 02:05.52 | Unkle | Usually. |
| 02:06.12 | foxlit | what a trainwreck of an infographic |
| 02:06.21 | Adys | foxlit: i disagree |
| 02:06.23 | Adys | it has arrows |
| 02:06.26 | Adys | and some images! |
| 02:06.33 | foxlit | Just look at those images |
| 02:06.42 | Adys | yeah i see em |
| 02:06.53 | Unkle | Infographics is a trend that is overdone. Very few of them are actually good/useful. |
| 02:06.54 | Adys | theres the universal symbol for reboot |
| 02:07.00 | foxlit | "Oh hey, let's put a power symbol here, a battery there, maybe a car... oh, I give up, stick figure time!" |
| 02:07.01 | Adys | a car |
| 02:07.09 | Adys | a.. something, and a guy with a shadow |
| 02:07.16 | Iriel | I have to say the battery icon had me going WTF too |
| 02:07.18 | Adys | oh and an invader! thats relevant, right? its video games |
| 02:07.36 | Adys | thats not a battery |
| 02:07.39 | Adys | thats a radiator with a penis |
| 02:07.51 | Adys | you know, from the radiator planel |
| 02:07.51 | Kaylin | suddenly is paying attention. |
| 02:07.53 | Adys | planet. |
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| 02:08.31 | Unkle | How many people here actually played a real "Space Invaders" coin-op game - that wasn't a restoration or a nostaglia project? |
| 02:08.39 | Adys | Unkle: you watch burn notice right? http://www.reddit.com/r/BurnNotice/comments/xek3q/my_sister_made_my_twin_brother_and_me_a_burn/c5lt7kn?context=3 |
| 02:08.41 | mckenziemc | timer minimizes my game right as i get shot at by a sniper : \ |
| 02:09.03 | Unkle | Adys: Win! |
| 02:10.34 | Iriel | Unkle: I did, but i'm old like you |
| 02:11.01 | Unkle | Iriel: *nod* I didn't name names. I don't want to get shot. I had figured you did though. |
| 02:11.34 | Amarande | Unkle: if by "Space Invaders" you mean I can't remember exactly which games they were, and if by "played" you mean "put in a quarter and lasted about a minute or so", then yeah, heh |
| 02:11.58 | Unkle | Amarande: close, but no cigar. |
| 02:12.19 | Adys | "put in a quarter and lasted about a minute or so" |
| 02:12.36 | Adys | Hookers really have gone up in prices since then.. |
| 02:16.00 | Amarande | I think I remember Paperboy and some or other sci-fi themed game that I can't remember exactly which one it was, from my childhood in restaurants |
| 02:16.43 | Unkle | Those are at least a decade after the original Space Invaders. |
| 02:16.44 | Adys | theres officially nothing i can twist in that last sentence |
| 02:17.06 | Adys | not even a fart joke, nothing |
| 02:17.16 | Adys | must be losing my skills. good night |
| 02:17.19 | Iriel | I should note I dont think I ever played space invaders when it was /new/ 8-) |
| 02:17.24 | Unkle | Space Invaders, Asteroids, Star Castle and one or two others were out. |
| 02:17.47 | Iriel | Certainly the cabinets in my memory were getting on a bit |
| 02:18.27 | Adys | Iriel: you know how I know time travel exists? |
| 02:18.31 | Adys | Iriel: "ping" came 10 years after "pong" |
| 02:19.00 | Unkle | I /think/ I saw one the first time about '78? on an US Air Force base in a waiting room. |
| 02:19.22 | mckenziemc | nice Adys |
| 02:22.20 | mckenziemc | ~bonk mckenziemc Thunder_Child |
| 02:22.20 | purl | ACTION bonks Thunder_Child over the head on behalf of mckenziemc |
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| 02:22.57 | Adys | https://www.djangoproject.com/weblog/2012/jul/30/security-releases-issued/ |
| 02:22.59 | Adys | clever |
| 02:23.09 | Adys | Some browsers are known to currently provide protection against this issue: Google Chrome in particular explicitly disallows redirects to data: scheme URLs. However, several other major browsers do permit such redirects. |
| 02:24.38 | Adys | The check as it currently exists in Django is vulnerable, however, because it will read the entire image file, including decompressing compressed formats as needed. |
| 02:24.42 | Adys | *headdesk* |
| 02:25.00 | Kaylin | firefox with noscript with obv protect against xss too. |
| 02:25.21 | Adys | yeah you know what else protects against xss? telnet |
| 02:25.35 | Kaylin | (or anything else that doesn't parse script) |
| 02:25.56 | foxlit | just you wait, someone will discover an overflow vulnerability in the text parsing logic of your brain |
| 02:26.13 | Kaylin | tries to think about all the symbols at once. |
| 02:26.30 | Adys | foxlit: has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? |
| 02:26.44 | Kaylin | once, but I backed off, it was a bit out there for me. |
| 02:26.58 | Adys | Kaylin: im just kinda sick & tired of people suggesting noscript is good at anything but removing a feature in web browsers |
| 02:27.16 | foxlit | Adys: furiously. |
| 02:27.29 | Kaylin | but it IS good at removing a feature |
| 02:27.39 | Adys | no its not |
| 02:27.45 | Adys | ./configure --disable-javascript is |
| 02:27.54 | Kaylin | right but what if you want it on a specific site? |
| 02:27.58 | Corrodias2 | > compiling your own programs |
| 02:28.03 | Kaylin | and editing those is a pain in advance |
| 02:28.16 | Adys | was a joke, I like being a twat sometimes |
| 02:28.17 | Corrodias2 | Kaylin, you should have a customized version of the source code for each web site |
| 02:28.33 | Adys | now dont laugh |
| 02:28.35 | TC-Work | Ok, how does one get ahold of parinc other than irc? |
| 02:28.36 | Kaylin | greasemonkey scripts for all the things! |
| 02:28.36 | Adys | chrome does that |
| 02:29.28 | TC-Work | Parnic* |
| 02:29.36 | Adys | Corrodias2: chrome customizes its protocols on *.google.com |
| 02:29.44 | Adys | and a few others |
| 02:29.47 | Corrodias2 | hahah... interesting |
| 02:29.56 | Adys | its mostly spdy related |
| 02:30.03 | Adys | and a lot of http/https-related experiments |
| 02:30.31 | Adys | eg. whenever they want to field test changes to protocols, they run it on *.google.com |
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| 02:41.35 | Amarande | hrm. server problems? |
| 02:41.53 | Amarande | I'm getting double-digit pings, but sometimes quartz is seeing spells as lagging 500+ms |
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| 03:07.08 | TC-Work | ~8ball do i give into temptation? |
| 03:07.08 | purl | No. |
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| 03:13.05 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: http://youtu.be/5IuRzJRrRpQ |
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| 03:16.05 | Cairenn | lol |
| 03:16.23 | Cairenn | I like the very first bounce |
| 03:16.32 | Cairenn | right off a brother/sister's back |
| 03:16.34 | Cairenn | lol |
| 03:17.31 | Arrowmaster | keep watching |
| 03:18.37 | Cairenn | I did |
| 03:18.58 | Mr_Rabies | that's how goats roll |
| 03:19.06 | Mr_Rabies | they seem to wholly lack empathy in any form |
| 03:20.36 | Mr_Rabies | their creepy square pupils don't help either |
| 03:21.40 | Mr_Rabies | http://static.environmentalgraffiti.com/sites/default/files/images/Leo-Reynolds.jpg |
| 03:21.46 | Mr_Rabies | rectangular, rather |
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| 04:14.07 | kd3 | blah. I'd forgotten how slow 100mbit ethernet is at moving gigs of data around |
| 04:28.59 | Thunder_Child | kd3: concidering your network speed i somehow find that....unlikely |
| 04:29.11 | Thunder_Child | Considering* |
| 04:30.37 | kd3 | big background downloads I have in a torrent that I tend to forget about after a short period of time |
| 04:30.57 | kd3 | copying stuff from my desktop to my notebook sitting right next to it should happen instantly, though |
| 04:32.44 | Thunder_Child | yes, that would be nice |
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| 06:04.21 | arton | You know -- it's really not in Blizzard's best interest to offer addon scripting abilities. People really do rely on them, and when the author of such addon ceases operations and deletes everthing, then that's a huge dent in Blizzard's income suddenly. |
| 06:05.24 | arton | Of course there are usually replacements to ease it a bit. |
| 06:06.05 | arton | I do know that recursive did nothing to end WoW in its best days. :P |
| 06:07.02 | arton | You always miss those old hacks though. hah |
| 06:10.09 | nevcairiel | part of wows success is because of the addons, so no, it is in blizzards interest to offer these abilities |
| 06:10.48 | Corrodias2 | i expect very, very few people have ever quit playing WoW because an addon no longer worked. |
| 06:10.59 | Corrodias2 | for any significant period of time, anyway |
| 06:11.14 | Thunder_Child | Actually i think most so-so games become great because of addons |
| 06:11.29 | Thunder_Child | s/most/many/ |
| 06:11.43 | Mr_Rabies | i know i didn't play on the beta for very long until addons were added |
| 06:12.04 | Mr_Rabies | but my goal for beta is mostly to check out mechanics that aren't at all related to the storyline |
| 06:12.16 | nevcairiel | probably not quit. but if we were stuck with default ui it would impact the fun quite a bit |
| 06:12.32 | arton | nods. |
| 06:12.37 | Mr_Rabies | i know i couldn't live without a bag addon |
| 06:12.42 | Corrodias2 | oh, definitely |
| 06:13.04 | Corrodias2 | my point was meant to counter the idea that individual mod authors ending support for addons create any significant dent in revenue for Blizzard |
| 06:13.04 | Mr_Rabies | almost all my addons provide utility that's just not there in the default ui |
| 06:13.14 | Mr_Rabies | very little of my addons do much to visual stuff |
| 06:13.27 | nevcairiel | blizzard should just do a one-bag in the default ui. its all i really need from a bag addon |
| 06:13.29 | Corrodias2 | ceasing to allow addons at this point would be suicidal |
| 06:13.37 | Mr_Rabies | (my addons being ones i've downloaded, i couldn't code my way out of a paper bag) |
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| 06:15.26 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.imgur.com/gXScG.jpg |
| 06:15.39 | Mr_Rabies | this is basically my UI, though it's slightly different now |
| 06:15.45 | arton | Well this happened in Rift almost. There's this massive boss mod addon that the author nearly ditched completely in protest of the Watchdog system put in place to limit time spent inside event handlers. So that addon just vanished. Their boss mod. And it was complaining about performance errors and the author just gave up. I think the addon's fine now, but it's a scary thought. |
| 06:17.06 | Corrodias2 | well, it apparently doesn't have as big of a modding community if there's only 1 boss alert addon. thing is, WoW would have another one step up to take its place. |
| 06:17.24 | Corrodias2 | that's my prediction, anyway, based on the population as of Burning Crusade |
| 06:17.34 | arton | nods. |
| 06:17.38 | Mr_Rabies | wow's slower than it used to be to fill niches |
| 06:17.50 | Mr_Rabies | there's still a few that haven't been filled from addons that broke before cata |
| 06:18.17 | Mr_Rabies | it seems a lot of people just install tukui and/or dbm and go from there now |
| 06:18.42 | arton | What if DBM suddenly vanished? |
| 06:18.46 | arton | Or is that open source? |
| 06:18.52 | Mr_Rabies | all addons are open source |
| 06:19.00 | mikma | oh poor me. wife preordered MoP for me :( |
| 06:19.01 | arton | No, silly. I mean the license. |
| 06:19.09 | Mr_Rabies | you can't even obfuscate the code anymore |
| 06:19.17 | Mr_Rabies | i'm pretty sure you have to release them as open source now, don't you? |
| 06:19.22 | Cairenn | no |
| 06:19.22 | Torhal | No. |
| 06:19.32 | Cairenn | they've never been open source by default |
| 06:19.36 | Torhal | Most of mine are All Rights Reserved. |
| 06:19.36 | arton | Mr_Rabies: I'm not talking about that open source. I'm talking about the copyright license -- is it open source. |
| 06:19.41 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 06:19.51 | Mr_Rabies | i thought wow forced an OS license, guess not :p |
| 06:19.54 | Cairenn | no |
| 06:20.05 | Mr_Rabies | if anyone knows, i'm sure you do, cair :P |
| 06:20.19 | Torhal | DBM is All Rights Reserved. |
| 06:20.25 | mikma | how did they prevent the obfuscating? |
| 06:20.26 | arton | nods. |
| 06:20.31 | Torhal | mikma: baddons |
| 06:20.41 | Cairenn | Unless there is a license specifying otherwise, all addons are arr |
| 06:20.48 | Mr_Rabies | mostly just telling people not to do it, mikma |
| 06:20.57 | Mr_Rabies | and threatening to disable any that do |
| 06:21.00 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 06:21.20 | mikma | torhal: knpw any addons thar have been blocked? |
| 06:21.21 | Mr_Rabies | you guys ever check the thottbott addon back in the day? |
| 06:21.22 | Cairenn | they actually did block a couple, until they were fixed (unobfusacted) |
| 06:21.42 | Mr_Rabies | that was obfuscation to an insane level |
| 06:21.42 | Torhal | mikma: Only I'm actually aware of is a certain version of GearScore becofe it became PlayerScore. |
| 06:21.55 | Torhal | before* |
| 06:22.01 | arton | hehe |
| 06:22.02 | Cairenn | Carbonite |
| 06:22.15 | Mr_Rabies | wasn't carbonite over charging more than obfuscation? |
| 06:22.16 | Corrodias2 | now if we could force blizzard to release their own source code... |
| 06:22.25 | Cairenn | Both, actually |
| 06:22.29 | Mr_Rabies | ah |
| 06:22.47 | mikma | torhal: didnt they just add a limit to the server queue instead? |
| 06:23.09 | Mr_Rabies | but to answer your question arton |
| 06:23.11 | Corrodias2 | and prevent them from charcing for expansions... |
| 06:23.19 | Corrodias2 | whoops, typos~ |
| 06:23.33 | Mr_Rabies | someone would probably reverse engineer DBM and make their own version, if not directly taking the code |
| 06:23.40 | mikma | tey typing with touchscreen |
| 06:23.42 | arton | Well there's Bigwigs |
| 06:23.48 | Mr_Rabies | but there are alternatives like bigwigs |
| 06:23.50 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 06:23.54 | arton | I think WoW's safe as such. |
| 06:24.07 | Corrodias2 | hey, was that Starcraft 2 situation ever resolved? do mod authors have any ownership over their work there? |
| 06:24.30 | Torhal | mikma: I remember that happening as well |
| 06:24.39 | Stanzilla | hey Torhal |
| 06:24.39 | arton | One thing that keeps WoW going is the character building though, regardless what addons we use. They're not that damn important in all cases. |
| 06:25.14 | arton | but I would have died if auctioneer vanished |
| 06:25.24 | Mr_Rabies | i've got something like, 130-140 addons installed (inaccurate i'm sure because of modular addons, etc, but still) |
| 06:25.39 | nebula169 | didn't auctioneer actually vanish? i thought all of his stuff stopped working awhile ago |
| 06:25.41 | Mr_Rabies | and my ui really doesn't look all THAT different from default |
| 06:25.59 | arton | oh I've been out-of-the-loop for a while, so maybe. |
| 06:26.33 | Mr_Rabies | they've been having personal issues i believe, so updates have been sparse |
| 06:26.49 | nebula169 | norganna, that was the name |
| 06:26.55 | Mr_Rabies | you know who i have nothing but the utmost respect for? gazmik |
| 06:27.05 | Cairenn | Gazmik rocks |
| 06:27.06 | arton | who's that? |
| 06:27.14 | Cairenn | He's a nice guy, too |
| 06:27.18 | Mr_Rabies | that dude just hammers out these crazy unique addons and steers far clear of all the drama |
| 06:27.24 | Cairenn | yup |
| 06:27.28 | arton | :) |
| 06:27.32 | Mr_Rabies | and out of the spotlight in general |
| 06:27.33 | nebula169 | guy that made auctioneer/gatherer/bean counter all that stuff |
| 06:27.41 | arton | oh |
| 06:27.47 | Cairenn | nebula169: actioneer, gatherer, etc are still around |
| 06:27.57 | Cairenn | but norgs himself is basically out of the picture |
| 06:27.59 | Mr_Rabies | not gazmik, arton |
| 06:28.05 | Mr_Rabies | gazmik runs http://fizzwidget.com/ |
| 06:28.15 | Cairenn | they've been taken over by (primarily) Esamynn|Away and MentalPower |
| 06:28.23 | nebula169 | ah |
| 06:28.27 | Mr_Rabies | all of his addons are incredibly powerful and unique |
| 06:28.43 | Mr_Rabies | very few replicate functionality with him, and those that do generally came out later |
| 06:28.59 | MentalPower | hi |
| 06:29.03 | Mr_Rabies | or are covered in way too many features unrelated to the goal |
| 06:29.21 | Cairenn | they really are unique - I don't know where he comes up with his ideas, but they always make you go "wow, what a great idea, gotta use this!" (re gazmik's stuff) |
| 06:29.31 | Corrodias2 | yeah, i enjoyed quite a few of them back in my day |
| 06:29.59 | Mr_Rabies | he's like the steve jobs apple fans talk about, instead of the steve jobs of reality |
| 06:30.57 | Mr_Rabies | http://fizzwidget.com/scrollmaker/ |
| 06:30.58 | Mr_Rabies | i mean |
| 06:31.00 | Mr_Rabies | it's so simple |
| 06:31.02 | Mr_Rabies | but so genius |
| 06:31.11 | Mr_Rabies | this has saved me hours of annoyance |
| 06:31.34 | Mr_Rabies | guildies want an enchant? i tell them to mail me the mats, they get a scroll back in seconds |
| 06:31.47 | Mr_Rabies | no putzing around |
| 06:34.43 | Stanzilla | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qU3kwef-yo&feature=share |
| 06:35.07 | Torhal | right-shifts Stanzilla. |
| 06:35.27 | Stanzilla | just watch the video and laugh |
| 06:36.23 | Torhal | Can't - head asplode. |
| 06:36.58 | Stanzilla | why |
| 06:37.06 | Torhal | As soon as the music started. |
| 06:37.14 | Torhal | Then silly lip-synching. |
| 06:37.18 | Torhal | Head asplode. |
| 06:37.22 | Stanzilla | =( |
| 06:39.05 | Cairenn | finds the bits and pieces and tapes them back into a generally spherical object and hands it back to Torhal |
| 06:39.20 | Torhal | Yay! |
| 06:42.14 | pompy | :O |
| 06:48.49 | Stanzilla | Torhal: do you want be my new best friend? |
| 06:49.27 | Torhal | Stanzilla: Not after what you did with your old one. |
| 06:49.40 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel is still alive and kicking |
| 06:50.24 | nevcairiel | kicking you, indeed |
| 06:50.29 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 06:51.24 | Stanzilla | why did my body decide that 3 hours of sleep is enough for me? |
| 06:51.54 | Corrodias2 | it isn't |
| 06:52.11 | Stanzilla | that I know |
| 06:59.06 | zenzio | "A 'static analysis' tool for art assets would be useful - look for t-junctions, near-degenerates, tripled edges, interpenetrations,etc." |
| 06:59.19 | zenzio | I wish I understood more of what Carmack talks about sometimes |
| 07:10.33 | AcidWeb | Anybody maybe checked new arena UI? |
| 07:10.41 | AcidWeb | Extractly... If numbering of GetArenaOpponentSpec() corresponds to Arena1...5 frames. |
| 07:31.47 | Fisker | btw Stanzilla |
| 07:31.49 | Fisker | we got refunded |
| 07:31.59 | Fisker | so now we're looking into if they can fix the discount |
| 07:32.04 | Stanzilla | nice |
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| 07:48.29 | bluspacecow | \o |
| 07:49.13 | Torhal | memes bluspacecow's other arm of. |
| 07:49.19 | Torhal | off! |
| 07:49.20 | bluspacecow | oh hai |
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| 08:03.55 | AcidWeb | I checked that arena ui myself. http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=259053 if somebody care. |
| 08:05.51 | bluspacecow | My random desktop picture is of snow and ice and the weather is this : http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/hamilton |
| 08:05.56 | bluspacecow | imma turn the heater on ! |
| 08:36.07 | bluspacecow | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/306891_507255052624136_2012370489_n.jpg |
| 08:42.13 | Stanzilla | I'm listening to pirate music |
| 08:42.32 | Kalroth | yarrr |
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| 08:48.57 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 08:49.02 | Fisker | i once pirated a music |
| 08:49.06 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 08:49.10 | bluspacecow | also |
| 08:49.16 | bluipodcow | u mad ? |
| 08:50.04 | Fisker | man |
| 08:50.11 | Fisker | fairlight is a bunch of incompetent bafoons |
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| 08:51.02 | zenzio | Fisker: how so? |
| 08:51.19 | Fisker | their cracks are still shit |
| 08:51.30 | Fisker | "block the game's .exe in your firewall" |
| 08:51.32 | Fisker | LOL NO |
| 08:51.46 | Fisker | real cracks don't depend on blocking them in my non-existant firewall |
| 08:52.46 | bluipodcow | *sets fisker's wall on fire* |
| 08:52.47 | zenzio | I remember back in the day when they patched the games to include their intro... my Sensible Soccer 93-94 started up with a... what was it, Class? logo |
| 08:52.48 | bluipodcow | now you do/ |
| 08:53.12 | Fisker | i love them zenzio |
| 08:53.23 | bluipodcow | @zenzio i can remember one cracked amiga game that had a racing game in it's intro |
| 08:53.29 | Fisker | sometimes even have them running for a few hours cause their awesome little chiptunes |
| 08:53.30 | zenzio | O_o |
| 08:53.46 | bluipodcow | it was like xibit before the macro was made famous |
| 08:54.11 | zenzio | Fisker: I still love that old style music |
| 08:54.17 | Stanzilla | Fisker: the prototype 2 installer has good sound, I heard! |
| 08:54.28 | Fisker | idk Stanzilla |
| 08:54.31 | Fisker | i don't pirate stuff |
| 08:54.37 | Fisker | though i think i should start again |
| 08:54.37 | Stanzilla | yeah right |
| 08:54.53 | bluipodcow | *pirates Fiskers hat* |
| 08:55.04 | Fisker | Ubisoft apparently thinks the lack of interest in their games mean that uPlay is perfectly justifiable |
| 08:58.36 | AcidWeb | Somebody remember how nodes on rated EOTS work? Like AB? aka. cap flag and wait a while before it will be captured? |
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| 09:16.55 | Fisker | no AcidWeb |
| 09:17.23 | Fisker | the flag is a tug of war kind of thing |
| 09:18.26 | Fisker | i.e. you go into the area and you will get points towards capping it |
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| 09:21.40 | AcidWeb | And how that is different than non-rated eots? |
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| 09:25.43 | Adys | AcidWeb: its not |
| 09:25.45 | Adys | why would it be? |
| 09:30.06 | AcidWeb | Because it is ;p |
| 09:30.14 | AcidWeb | Im just waching movies from rated eots |
| 09:30.25 | AcidWeb | there is AB-like flag to capture |
| 09:32.22 | nevcairiel | you mean the one in the middle which you pick up and carry home? not very AB like |
| 09:32.35 | AcidWeb | No |
| 09:35.03 | nevcairiel | never heard of it being different in rated |
| 09:37.06 | AcidWeb | sec looking for a movie where that is clearly visible |
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| 09:46.32 | AcidWeb | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbzsoSBu04s&t=0m25s |
| 09:46.46 | AcidWeb | For sure that is not tug of war ;p |
| 09:47.18 | Stanzilla | the map looks different in rated |
| 09:47.31 | Stanzilla | there are rocks around the middle for example so shamans don't knock you down all the time |
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| 11:13.30 | Fisker | oh i didn't know you were talking about rated at all AcidWeb :P |
| 11:13.34 | Fisker | just figured you meant in general |
| 11:13.41 | Fisker | i need to learn2read |
| 11:23.49 | arton | Snoop Dogg is going full reggae, and he's changed his name to Snoop Lion. I'm now in the market for some reggae. |
| 11:28.05 | Kalroth | rawr |
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| 11:28.50 | AcidWeb | I forgive you Fisker |
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| 11:48.41 | zenzio | grmbl |
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| 12:00.24 | karl_w_w | <Arrowmaster> its totally addicting isnt it <- no it isn't |
| 12:01.47 | karl_w_w | because addicting isn't a word |
| 12:01.59 | karl_w_w | "Therefore, In order to make sure you guys have some more time to prepare for this year's Brewfest, we have pushed the whole event forward by just over a week, stopping short of overlapping with the Hallows End event." |
| 12:02.48 | karl_w_w | I didn't know making an event 1 week earlier gave you more time to get ready for it. quantum physics in action? |
| 12:04.51 | zenzio | either that, or they're in backwards land |
| 12:05.05 | foxlit | well, time progresses forward |
| 12:05.36 | karl_w_w | since when |
| 12:05.48 | karl_w_w | time just progresses |
| 12:05.51 | foxlit | so you might think that to push forward would be to move in the direction of time's progression, i.e. postpone |
| 12:06.23 | karl_w_w | hi foxlit, today I am going to push you forward in time |
| 12:06.38 | foxlit | please don't, karl_w_w, the future's scary. |
| 12:07.18 | karl_w_w | makes no sense |
| 12:07.28 | karl_w_w | if you push something back it gets later |
| 12:07.35 | karl_w_w | everyone knows that |
| 12:07.43 | karl_w_w | back is the opposite to forward |
| 12:09.22 | zenzio | the Internet doesn't seem to have a unified opinion of what it means |
| 12:09.27 | End_ | you can only push people one way |
| 12:09.43 | karl_w_w | down? |
| 12:09.54 | foxlit | away. |
| 12:10.04 | karl_w_w | grinds foxlit into the dust |
| 12:10.06 | foxlit | otherwise, you're pulling. |
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| 12:10.15 | karl_w_w | hi Lopeppeppy |
| 12:10.17 | zenzio | relative to yourself, yes |
| 12:10.31 | karl_w_w | if you push something forward does it get earlier or later? |
| 12:11.35 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, karl_w_w. And zenzio. *huggles* |
| 12:15.52 | zenzio | \o/ |
| 12:24.17 | karl_w_w | so they have updated the mists launcher twice and both times it has become more like the cata launcher and more boring |
| 12:24.28 | Lopeppeppy | But does it work better? |
| 12:24.58 | karl_w_w | no because the launcher is just a face for the horrible agent service |
| 12:25.11 | karl_w_w | like a pizza restaurant |
| 12:36.37 | zenzio | so... the American embassy was shut down and a modestly large area around it evacuated as a suscpicious item was found under a car that had passed the first security point, but not the second |
| 12:37.22 | zenzio | few hours later, they determine it's a fake bomb used in practice |
| 12:37.32 | zenzio | that the Americans forgot to remove after an exercise not long ago |
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| 12:44.13 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent. |
| 12:44.18 | Lopeppeppy | facepalms |
| 12:45.09 | karl_w_w | so it's a fake bomb used in practice... that passed the first security point |
| 12:45.16 | karl_w_w | excellent indeed |
| 12:45.27 | zenzio | I'm not sure what the "first point" entails |
| 12:46.01 | zenzio | think I may have used the wrong term; it passed the first *gate* at least: http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/227/227566/22756631/jpg/active/978x.jpg |
| 12:46.17 | zenzio | security might start between those two, I don't really know |
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| 12:58.39 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp0-8Ibkczc old but still good |
| 13:03.29 | zenzio | interestingly that fits in very well with a discussion we had earlier in the office |
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| 13:05.38 | karl_w_w | that's because it's universally true |
| 13:06.31 | karl_w_w | ...and now i wanna watch coupling |
| 13:08.53 | Lopeppeppy | Kinky. |
| 13:10.54 | karl_w_w | oh you |
| 13:12.13 | mikma | a fake bomb they use in practices? |
| 13:12.18 | Lopeppeppy | Ever seen the movie Kinky Boots? Totally should. |
| 13:12.26 | mikma | lopeppeppy: horrible movie. |
| 13:12.44 | Lopeppeppy | Tsk. Oh well. |
| 13:13.05 | mikma | "oh hey i got a great idea. let's start making boots for....." (no spoilers) |
| 13:13.22 | Lopeppeppy | Niche markets are awesomesauce. |
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| 13:26.52 | Fisker | oh god JC a bomb |
| 13:26.53 | Fisker | A BOMB |
| 13:32.26 | karl_w_w | bombs Fisker |
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| 13:43.10 | zenzio | http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4905793_460s.jpg |
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| 14:10.08 | karl_w_w | 9fag :( |
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| 15:17.44 | Unkle | STATION! |
| 15:19.41 | Lopeppeppy | HOLLA! |
| 15:23.11 | Lopeppeppy | Fear my awesome desk of DOOM, Unkle! |
| 15:23.14 | Lopeppeppy | Isn't she sweet? |
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| 15:37.31 | Lopeppeppy | I did the snoopy dance for *hours*, stayed up until midnight re-arranging furniture to make it fit. |
| 15:38.56 | Ackis | le sighs |
| 15:40.15 | Lopeppeppy | What causes the sad? |
| 15:40.33 | Ackis | shitty sleep |
| 15:40.44 | Ackis | apparently when you have 6 hours of naps throughout the day, you don't get a good sleep |
| 15:40.57 | Lopeppeppy | Yes. I find this to be consistent and true-ish. |
| 15:47.13 | sylvanaar_work | shitty sleep sucks |
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| 15:48.33 | Torhal|work | casts "sleep" on Ackis. |
| 15:49.50 | karl_w_w | casts "aspersions" on Torhal|work |
| 15:50.21 | Torhal|work | I see. |
| 15:50.29 | Torhal|work | casts "the second stone" on karl_w_w. |
| 15:50.53 | karl_w_w | has no idea |
| 15:52.10 | Lopeppeppy | Let he who is without insomnia cast the first nodoze. |
| 15:53.39 | karl_w_w | Don't you ever consider that nodoze might be the cause not the solution? |
| 15:54.35 | nilyaK | I tend to avoid thinking when I've been up for 3 days |
| 15:57.05 | Lopeppeppy | I just get out the hammer and make with the death. |
| 15:57.26 | Arrowmaster | http://imgur.com/r/funny/o3jqy |
| 15:57.34 | karl_w_w | Lopeppeppy: mjolnir? |
| 15:58.14 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: at first i thought that was a kid on the back of the dog |
| 15:58.52 | Arrowmaster | then you realized its a fucking corgi? |
| 15:59.01 | Arrowmaster | and too small |
| 15:59.32 | TC-Work | no, then i realized i had watched toy story |
| 16:00.30 | Lopeppeppy | Mmmmm, with mint, karl_w_w. |
| 16:00.40 | Lopeppeppy | I just re-watched that on Netflix the other night, very awesome. |
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| 16:01.43 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:03.03 | Lopeppeppy | Just in time for lunch! |
| 16:07.12 | Unkle | Ugh, this woman in the office would not shut up… 35 minutes straight. I don't think she even paused for a breath. |
| 16:10.18 | Lopeppeppy | Mjolnir. That's what I'm tellin ya |
| 16:10.23 | Lopeppeppy | Boom, headshot! |
| 16:12.17 | Dagmar | Meatgag time |
| 16:15.52 | foxlit | hm |
| 16:16.00 | foxlit | foo{bar="baz"}.bar |
| 16:16.47 | foxlit | calls foo("baz") or tries to index foo's return value? |
| 16:24.30 | Shirik | that is foo({bar=”baz”}).bar |
| 16:24.53 | Shirik | it calls foo, passing in the table, and then accesses “bar” in foo’s return |
| 16:26.25 | Shirik | and for proof http://codepad.org/ZjHtZ7Wl |
| 16:26.57 | Shirik | (I added an `a=` at the beginning) |
| 16:27.11 | foxlit | well done, you. |
| 16:30.43 | AcidWeb | http://i.imgur.com/akWJZ.png |
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| 16:38.36 | Stanzilla | the new hotmail experience is sooo bad |
| 16:38.44 | Stanzilla | wonder what ms is thinking about all this metro crap |
| 16:39.58 | nilyaK | rather enjoys her Windows eXPerience. |
| 16:40.16 | nevcairiel | points and laughs at Stanzilla for using hotmail |
| 16:40.46 | nevcairiel | although i personally do like the metro mail client in Win8 |
| 16:41.15 | nilyaK | acidweb: at least we can wear ours lmao... well for a half hour anyway. |
| 16:41.19 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: legacy account bro. and the website looks the same now |
| 16:41.23 | Stanzilla | http://outlook.com |
| 16:41.38 | nevcairiel | even in legacy times i was smart enough to not sign up with hotmail :D |
| 16:41.55 | Stanzilla | what did you use? gmx? |
| 16:42.07 | AcidWeb | nilyaK: :d |
| 16:42.10 | nevcairiel | web.de actually, but i doubt i still get any mail there |
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| 16:48.30 | nevcairiel | heck i dont even remember the address i had there :D |
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| 18:18.49 | cogwheel | one of the prosecutors in the aurora shooting used to host a podcast I listened to. Now he's had to completely disappear from FB & twitter :( |
| 18:19.15 | nilyaK1 | :( |
| 18:19.17 | Lopeppeppy | ooof. Yeah, need some distance from the public right now. |
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| 18:24.55 | Unkle | :/ |
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| 18:29.55 | nevcairiel | shouldnt a prosecutor be kinda liked in that case? :d |
| 18:30.02 | nevcairiel | now the defense attorneys.. |
| 18:30.03 | foxlit | I wonder if there is a utf8string.char(n) implementation somewhere I could use. |
| 18:30.46 | mckenziemc | i don't think likeage is the issue nevcairiel |
| 18:30.50 | Lopeppeppy | Removing himself from media coverage, I would guess. |
| 18:32.04 | Dagmar | foxlit: wat |
| 18:32.36 | Dagmar | Unicode can do no wrong! |
| 18:32.55 | foxlit | Dagmar: ? |
| 18:33.35 | Dagmar | I am perhaps foolishly assuming that you were trying to convert from Unicode to ASCII? |
| 18:34.11 | foxlit | no, just to UTF-8. |
| 18:34.31 | Dagmar | Good luck with that |
| 18:35.01 | Dagmar | It seems to me that one of the design goals was to make sure a prgrammer could never again mistakenly hard-code any string matches |
| 18:38.57 | Gnarfoz | to utf-8 from what? |
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| 18:40.03 | nevcairiel | a "char" function typically converts from the numeric representation into the character |
| 18:41.26 | Dagmar | I would like to have suspected something in ASCII, but that doesn't need converting to UTF-8, so I can only assume some non-UTF8, non-ASCII representation |
| 18:42.33 | nilyaK1 | how am I supposed to pronouce that because I always read it as ass-key and it makes me think of sitting on my phone, and yea. |
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| 18:42.48 | Dagmar | Exactly like that. Ass-key |
| 18:42.57 | nilyaK1 | >_> |
| 18:43.21 | Dagmar | Only pufs pronounce it "ah-sky" |
| 18:43.58 | Dagmar | You have an enter key, a control key, a return key, and a shift key. What's wrong with an ass key? |
| 18:44.12 | nilyaK1 | likes to keep her keys on her keyboard. |
| 18:45.04 | Unkle | Does this keyboard make my ASCII look FAT? |
| 18:45.48 | nilyaK1 | only if it has a USB memory stick attached to it... |
| 18:49.50 | foxlit | I came up with http://pastebin.com/bR6rs7kX |
| 18:50.58 | TC-Work | Anyone know Parnic's real name? We have some guys from gearbox stopping by and i am curious... |
| 18:51.50 | nilyaK1 | Real name: Parnic |
| 18:51.57 | TC-Work | ~lart nilyaK1 |
| 18:51.57 | purl | pours hot grits down the front of nilyaK1's pants |
| 18:52.23 | nilyaK1 | what, nobody puts anything but the honest truth into IRC login procedures right? |
| 18:52.25 | Unkle | eeewwww. grits. |
| 18:53.26 | nilyaK1 | mmm polenta |
| 18:53.27 | TC-Work | I have also been playing Borderlands 2 and now i have questions |
| 19:03.14 | Parnic | what? |
| 19:05.39 | nicoli_s | how? |
| 19:05.43 | nicoli_s | also, jealous |
| 19:06.12 | Parnic | fisker summoned me. |
| 19:07.20 | Torhal|work | TC-Work: ^^ |
| 19:10.07 | Nimhfree | foxlit: sorry, am late to conversation, but what is your utf-8 issue? |
| 19:10.37 | foxlit | Nimhfree: given a unicode character, generate its UTF-8 representation |
| 19:11.29 | Nimhfree | when you say, "given a Unicode character" you are going to have to be more specific. do you mean you are given a single 16-bit value or are you also dealing with things other than plane 0? |
| 19:11.43 | foxlit | a single 16-bit value. |
| 19:11.50 | Nimhfree | do you have access to a Mac? |
| 19:12.06 | Nimhfree | (running Mac OS X?) |
| 19:12.33 | foxlit | sure. |
| 19:13.16 | Nimhfree | I take it you are dealing with a file of 16-bit unicode values. if so, load them into TextEdit and save it out as UTF-8. does that work for you? |
| 19:13.23 | foxlit | no. |
| 19:14.12 | foxlit | I'm dealing with JSON-encoded strings, which encode unicode chars that would require more than one byte as \u1234 sequences |
| 19:15.03 | nilyaK1 | I don't get the issue, utf-8 can encode multibyte characters, it encodes the same information as utf-16 and both are variable width, utf-32 is the fixed width one |
| 19:15.22 | Nimhfree | so you need to solve this in a program? what language are you writing in? does that language not have a way to deal with the string conversion? |
| 19:15.38 | foxlit | Lua has no built-in way to deal with the string conversion, yeah. |
| 19:16.07 | Nimhfree | you are writing Lua to get info from a JSON source? i take it this is not within the game |
| 19:16.09 | foxlit | hence me looking (and eventually writing) an equivalent of string.char() that'd take 16-bit unicode values and produce utf8. |
| 19:16.30 | Nimhfree | so you need to know the programming to convert from one to the other. |
| 19:17.09 | foxlit | foxlit: I came up with http://pastebin.com/bR6rs7kX |
| 19:17.24 | TC-Work | nicoli_s: we have a copy to do stuff with and i have been 'testing' it to make sure it works properly. |
| 19:18.06 | foxlit | which basically does utf8char("2014") = "—" |
| 19:23.45 | Nimhfree | can you change your code to say "local nbytes = (n <= 2047) and 2 or 3" instead of the complicated math? |
| 19:24.11 | Fisker | http://twitpic.com/adxuyd |
| 19:24.13 | Fisker | lets do this |
| 19:25.37 | Stanzilla | wonder who's first to leak RTM |
| 19:25.41 | Stanzilla | the russians or the chinese |
| 19:25.57 | Fisker | the germans Stanzilla |
| 19:26.02 | foxlit | Nimhfree: that would be safe as long as the inputs remain 16-bit. |
| 19:26.02 | nicoli_s | ahh do you work for gearbox then? |
| 19:26.33 | Torhal|work | Nimhfree: Parnic does. |
| 19:26.37 | Torhal|work | nicoli_s: ^^ |
| 19:26.41 | Torhal|work | Sorry, Nimhfree. |
| 19:26.54 | Stanzilla | Torhal|work: stop putting your dick in every bottle |
| 19:27.07 | Torhal|work | Stanzilla: Stop becoming stranger every passing moment. |
| 19:28.59 | Stanzilla | Torhal|work: I believe whatever doesn't kill you, simply makes you ... stranger |
| 19:29.21 | Torhal|work | ... |
| 19:29.55 | Fisker | so Stanzilla |
| 19:29.59 | Fisker | ready to upgrade to windows 8? |
| 19:30.20 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 19:30.23 | Stanzilla | gimme a leak |
| 19:30.24 | Fisker | nice |
| 19:30.37 | Fisker | i will when it leaks |
| 19:30.55 | TC-Work | leaks all over Stanzilla and Fisker |
| 19:31.06 | Fisker | you had your chance TC-Work |
| 19:31.08 | Fisker | and you blew it |
| 19:31.09 | Fisker | dick |
| 19:31.23 | TC-Work | i didnt blow anything |
| 19:31.30 | Nimhfree | I refuse to go past Windows NT |
| 19:32.02 | Fisker | i'm still on Microsoft BOB |
| 19:33.07 | TC-Work | that makes bob happy... |
| 19:34.04 | Fisker | i'm the fiskernator |
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| 19:54.39 | Maldivia | http://www.dagbladet.no/2012/07/31/sport/london_2012/sommer-ol/ol/ol_i_london/22760765/ :=) |
| 19:55.09 | Lopeppeppy | What is that, synchronized ugly faces? |
| 19:55.24 | Maldivia | something like that :P |
| 19:55.27 | Lopeppeppy | Diving gets some nasty faces. :) |
| 20:04.54 | Torhal|work | Fisker: What did you do to airtonix? I just realized the troll level has been way down lately. |
| 20:05.49 | Unkle | Heh… Bunch of my co-workers play wow. They joked yesterday about stealing my WOW figures before I leave. I shocked them all today by giving them each one. |
| 20:06.04 | Lopeppeppy | *gasp* |
| 20:08.24 | Torhal|work | Unkle: So it's terminal, then? |
| 20:08.26 | Torhal|work | :D |
| 20:08.50 | mckenziemc | diagnoses Torhal|work with terminal cancer. |
| 20:09.08 | Torhal|work | diagnoses mckenziemc with terminal mckenziemc. |
| 20:09.13 | Unkle | Torhal|work: It was just fun to see the looks on their faces. |
| 20:09.25 | Torhal|work | Unkle: Madness! |
| 20:09.37 | mckenziemc | umad? |
| 20:09.45 | Unkle | MADNESS? THIS IS … #WOWUIDEV! |
| 20:11.11 | neutronimity | 1) http://pic.ameisenkeks.de/15281.jpg 2) put between your legs, nearly sitting on it 3) enjoy |
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| 21:44.49 | Cairenn|afk | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:45.06 | Torhal|work | Cairenn|afk: I don't wanna |
| 21:45.12 | Cairenn|afk | okay |
| 21:45.15 | Torhal|work | I may get hurt :/ |
| 21:45.23 | Cairenn|afk | heh |
| 21:45.28 | Amarande | heh |
| 21:45.48 | Amarande | yeah, trying to take Cairenn's nick usually tends to zap you |
| 21:45.54 | Amarande | like when you hit the wrong colour in ogri'la |
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| 21:54.33 | TC-Work | ~lart Unkle |
| 21:54.33 | purl | farts in Unkle's general direction |
| 21:54.37 | Maldivia | and suddently the olympics looks like softporn - http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/tom-daley-gets-unnecessarily-censored |
| 21:55.01 | Unkle | What the hell did I do? |
| 21:55.25 | TC-Work | sparta thing |
| 21:55.42 | TC-Work | Maldivia: why do you think womens volleyball has the drawing that it does |
| 21:56.22 | Maldivia | TC-Work: I just really love the placement of the score-bar, makes it look a lot more pornographic than it really is :P |
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| 22:00.22 | TC-Work | yes Maldivia, i can see you are all hot and bothered |
| 22:07.08 | Dagmar | You'd think someone would have let an engineer move that bar |
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| 22:10.25 | Maldivia | Dagmar: or perhaps the placement was on purpose ?:) |
| 22:10.51 | Amarande | well, you know what NBC stands for |
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| 22:10.58 | Amarande | Not Bloody Competent |
| 22:11.41 | Amarande | Did you guys see the article in the Guardian about the UK journalist who got suspended from Twitter for being too zealously critical of NBC? |
| 22:12.11 | Unkle | He got suspended for posting someone's non-publicized email address. |
| 22:12.31 | Amarande | Unkle: Except that, apparently, it was his publicly searchable corporate email address, not his personal private email |
| 22:12.52 | Amarande | As in it was being said you could find it by poking around nbc.com without any special level of access |
| 22:13.16 | Unkle | I've read all the arguments. Twitter follwed their EULA. *shrug* |
| 22:13.20 | Amarande | NBC apparently wanted to find an excuse to get rid of criticism, and Twitter caved in because they're buddy buddy sweethearts with NBC for Olympics coverage this year. |
| 22:15.15 | Amarande | And apparently, they've got a lot of criticism, since they're making total hash out of the Olympics this time around |
| 22:15.46 | Amarande | Everything from the opening ceremonies that wasn't US-centric enough being pretty much glossed over at best, for instance, including the memorial for the 7/7 London victims |
| 22:16.33 | Amarande | And if you happen to be looking for a sport that the US doesn't do very well in (although I don't really have much interest in the Summer Games, my favourites are basically all winter ones), good luck finding more than a small amount of spot coverage here and there, probably during odd hours |
| 22:17.01 | Amarande | and even better luck finding any *live* coverage of anything you might really want to watch, as they tape-delay it all over the place to maximise prime time revenue |
| 22:17.29 | Amarande | I don't remember the 2010 Winter Games being shredded like that. Who broadcast those ones? |
| 22:18.04 | Cairenn | Hey Amarande? |
| 22:21.08 | Amarande | Heya Cairenn :) |
| 22:21.19 | Cairenn | Question for ya |
| 22:22.33 | Amarande | What? :) |
| 22:23.17 | Arrowmaster | Amarande, nbc has had exclusive olympic coverage for over a decade i thought |
| 22:23.40 | Cairenn | Do you think it would be possible for us to talk about something cheerful for a change? I'm getting kind of tired of all of the negativity and ongoing ranting. |
| 22:24.03 | Arrowmaster | its a negative world, so it gets drawn into here too |
| 22:24.25 | Arrowmaster | unless you mean Amarande specifically, hes always negative |
| 22:25.03 | TC-Work | and ranting |
| 22:25.22 | Amarande | Good idea. :) Negative energy is for taking out upon the opposite faction and monsters. :) |
| 22:25.34 | Cairenn | Indeed |
| 22:25.36 | Cairenn | Thank you |
| 22:26.07 | Ackis | talks about 2 negatives in one sentence so that it makes a positive |
| 22:26.23 | mckenziemc | smacks Ackis cheerfully. |
| 22:26.37 | TC-Work | watches Ackis get glared at by Cairenn |
| 22:27.10 | Maldivia | Cairenn: so now is the time to start linking pictures of baby animals? |
| 22:27.20 | Cairenn | Maldivia: heh |
| 22:27.31 | TC-Work | no |
| 22:27.34 | TC-Work | it is never that time |
| 22:27.59 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn, did you see http://imgur.com/r/funny/o3jqy when i linked it thismorning |
| 22:28.09 | Cairenn | ROFL |
| 22:28.14 | Cairenn | no, I hadn't |
| 22:28.25 | Arrowmaster | my work here is done |
| 22:28.43 | Amarande | yay, only five more days after today and I get my wintersabre |
| 22:28.45 | Unkle | poor corgi |
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| 22:32.28 | Maldivia | and there are always Coupling clips on youtube, if you need a laugh :P |
| 22:32.52 | Ackis | http://gifs.gifbin.com/052011/1305890712_guy_in_swimming_pool_scares_cat.gif |
| 22:33.06 | Ackis | makes me wish I had a swimming pool, I'd do that to my cat/dog/kids/wife |
| 22:33.46 | Unkle | Maldivia: that show is some of Mr. Moffet's best work. BRILLIANTLY funny |
| 22:34.29 | Maldivia | Unkle: couldn't agree more |
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| 22:43.16 | Ackis | fuck rivendare... 50 kills, 2 swords, no mount |
| 22:43.46 | Torhal | Fuck Ackis… three years, no Collectinator 2.0 |
| 22:43.54 | Torhal | :D |
| 22:44.21 | Ackis | just give up, I'll never write another mod again! I'm brokened |
| 22:45.00 | Torhal | Bah! |
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| 22:56.54 | Amarande | heh. "Call me crazy, but storming a Scourge ziggurat outside a plagued Nerubian city with a dozen men ain't my idea of fun." |
| 22:57.05 | Amarande | This NPC would never have made it in WoW, especially in the expansion he's part of. :) |
| 23:05.20 | Unkle | http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/07/broken-microsoft-sheme-exposes-traffic/ |
| 23:10.16 | Amarande | hm. |
| 23:10.24 | Amarande | this only applies to certain WPA2 Enterprise systems, I'm guessing |
| 23:10.38 | Amarande | and not to the typical home WPA2-AES PSK setup |
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| 23:17.08 | foxlit | That's just weird. I thought everyone knew MS-CHAP was broken. |
| 23:20.42 | Amarande | foxlit: it sounds like something that not even every geek would have occasion to even think about |
| 23:20.54 | Amarande | since it looks like it's only really used by folks who use a business VPN or who use enterprise wifi |
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| 23:32.14 | Arrowmaster | foxlit, thought the same too, what morons are still using it |
| 23:33.56 | Arrowmaster | MS-CHAPv2 is 12 years old, thats way past any plausible realization that it could still be secure |
| 23:34.34 | foxlit | heyhey, Diffie-Hellman is how old? :) |
| 23:36.05 | Arrowmaster | i thought diffie-hellman was more of a framework than a ridged spec |
| 23:38.16 | Dagmar | I wouldn't say it's insecure so much as it's insufficient. |
| 23:39.20 | Dagmar | An 8 character password wasn't insecure 10 years ago, but with the change in availability of computing power particularly with respect to the existance of rainbow tables, it's now insufficient to the task it was being put to |
| 23:42.16 | Amarande | And, ultimately, it apparently remains to be seen whether ANY present Internet security protocols are truly secure in the long run |
| 23:42.25 | Amarande | Apparently, that could hinge on whether P = NP, which is still an open question |
| 23:43.42 | Dagmar | If we ever break that, invest in shotguns |
| 23:44.26 | Amarande | If P = NP, apparently it means that basically every current shared key encryption protocol is busted. If P != NP, shared key is likely to last a much longer time (still possibly not forever, though) |
| 23:44.49 | Dagmar | Strictly a matter of availability of computational power |
| 23:45.06 | Dagmar | ...probably with a much longer downslope tho |
| 23:45.12 | Amarande | It's something to do with the fact that presently, one of the chief locks on shared key security is the fact that it's essentially 3-SAT, which is known to be NP-complete |
| 23:45.37 | Dagmar | Thankfully folks are realizing now that only utter secrecy is "secure". Cryptographic protection has time limits |
| 23:46.06 | foxlit | wait, what? |
| 23:46.11 | Dagmar | It has time limits. |
| 23:46.15 | foxlit | not you :) |
| 23:46.40 | foxlit | " it's essentially 3-SAT," << wtf? |
| 23:46.42 | Amarande | foxlit: apparently, if P = NP, then 3-SAT is in P, which pretty much busts all encryption that isn't IT-secure |
| 23:46.42 | Dagmar | Right so if you'd picked a six-character password, brute forcing it used to take months... now it's days. |
| 23:46.46 | Dagmar | Oh okay |
| 23:47.18 | foxlit | (a) We aren't actually basing symmetric encryption on SAT. |
| 23:48.17 | foxlit | (b) NP problems are not necessary to provide security. You can be perfectly content with an O(1) puzzle, as long as that constant is sufficiently large. |
