| 00:01.34 | *** join/#wowuidev Liath (~Liath@fctnnbsc30w-198164211244.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.nb.bellaliant.net) |
| 00:01.34 | *** join/#wowuidev Liath (~Liath@unaffiliated/liath) |
| 00:06.21 | Stanzilla | . |
| 00:10.14 | *** join/#wowuidev Cyclops (~unclecycl@host-69-145-24-173.gdj-co.client.bresnan.net) |
| 00:16.37 | Dagmar | Amarande: Considering that disk platters are usually made of stuff more prone to nasty edges and hard, sharp splinters, I'd say you get much more hilarious versions of the "exploding CD" problem. :) |
| 00:17.23 | Amarande | Dagmar: on the other hand, they're also completely contained, and the metal has a much higher melting point :) |
| 00:17.46 | Dagmar | ...and makes a much more awesome sound. :) |
| 00:30.39 | Amarande | dammit, fire festival fortitude scared me |
| 00:36.15 | Cyclops | How would you guys suggest distinguishing between horde and alliance from the combat log text once MoP hits? |
| 00:36.50 | kd3 | Alliance/Horde info is in the tooltip for players |
| 00:37.04 | kd3 | if you get it for an allied player, you can extrapolate for hostile players |
| 00:38.39 | kd3 | oh, heh. keyboards and dichloromethane do not mix well: http://syntheticremarks.com/?p=2822 |
| 00:39.15 | Dagmar | Well, yes. Plastics and that don't mix well. |
| 00:39.57 | Dagmar | On the bright side, if you want one of those fancy german keyboards with no letters on it but can't afford it, use a bit of that and a cotton ball |
| 00:44.20 | kd3 | snrk; IKEA criticized for clear-cutting Russian old-growth forests. I didn't even know Russia had particleboard trees [Interesting] |
| 00:44.41 | kd3 | http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2012/07/20127271229830182.html |
| 00:45.05 | *** join/#wowuidev alestane (~alestane@141.133.254.88) |
| 00:45.05 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v alestane] by ChanServ |
| 00:45.39 | Amarande | oh yay, there actually is a zone where tin is common |
| 00:45.53 | Wobin | kd3: they're more efficient than most trees, as they can be flatpacked and stored better |
| 00:47.22 | *** join/#wowuidev nebula169` (~nebula@c-75-72-138-186.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 00:52.12 | kd3 | oh, huh. they're about to roll out 5.0.1 on the ptr |
| 00:52.19 | kd3 | beta folk don't get to participate, though |
| 00:56.40 | F16Gaming | but the ptr doesn't give access to the mop-specific content |
| 00:57.05 | kd3 | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6008461841#1 |
| 00:57.35 | F16Gaming | yes |
| 00:57.36 | Stanzilla | what's the color code for monks? |
| 00:57.37 | F16Gaming | "While testing 5.0.1, players will not be able to access zones or content that is a part of the Mists of Pandaria expansion." |
| 00:58.00 | kd3 | scroll up a few bullet points |
| 00:58.03 | kd3 | It will not be possible to access the 5.0.1 PTR realms with a game account that accesses the Mists of Pandaria Beta. |
| 00:58.08 | F16Gaming | yes |
| 00:58.11 | F16Gaming | but why would you :P |
| 00:58.22 | kd3 | because wowpedia? |
| 00:58.28 | F16Gaming | hm? |
| 00:59.02 | kd3 | monk class color in hex is #008467 |
| 01:00.16 | Torhal | Erm...no |
| 01:00.18 | Torhal | ["MONK"] = { r = 0.0, g = 1.00 , b = 0.59, colorStr = "ff00ff96" }, |
| 01:00.32 | kd3 | ick |
| 01:00.35 | F16Gaming | purl should get a hex <-> rgb converter :P |
| 01:00.37 | kd3 | updates our css |
| 01:01.43 | Amarande | so I'm guessing that 4.4.0 isn't actually going to occur then, and the world event will be in 5.0.1? |
| 01:01.49 | F16Gaming | kd3: wait a second |
| 01:02.03 | F16Gaming | kd3: the post says that the limitation is not on the b.net account, but on the wow account |
| 01:02.10 | F16Gaming | but PTRs already use separate accounts to access |
| 01:02.14 | F16Gaming | so how is this affecting anything at all? |
| 01:03.14 | *** join/#wowuidev Tuller (~tuller@c-76-21-187-154.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 01:03.27 | kd3 | all I know is the blue post |
| 01:03.47 | Stanzilla | Torhal: thanks bro |
| 01:03.51 | Torhal | np |
| 01:05.55 | *** join/#wowuidev Funkeh` (~funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh) |
| 01:07.38 | F16Gaming | kd3: apparently beta accounts are labeled "PTR" in game management, maybe that's the reason for the post |
| 01:10.47 | kd3 | ok, wowpedia's sitewide css has been fixed |
| 01:12.20 | Amarande | rofl, these guys in stonetalon are such pushovers as a frost mage |
| 01:12.35 | Amarande | I'm surprised Blizzard hasn't nerfed it so the oil canister passes its aggro to the orc |
| 01:13.11 | Stanzilla | kd3: the monk color is wrong on wowpedia then |
| 01:13.31 | kd3 | I just fixed it to match the raid_class_colors table in constants.lua |
| 01:13.35 | Stanzilla | ah ok |
| 01:22.54 | *** join/#wowuidev Sum_Wun (~sum_wun@65-36-101-251.dyn.grandenetworks.net) |
| 01:58.38 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (~Kaydeethr@wowwiki/Kaydeethree) |
| 02:16.17 | *** join/#wowuidev pompy (~Mike@68.36.135.0) |
| 02:19.05 | *** join/#wowuidev nebula169` (~nebula@c-75-72-138-186.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 02:22.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Guillotine (~Guillotin@WoWUIDev/Blizzard/Guillotine) |
| 02:22.09 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Guillotine] by ChanServ |
| 02:26.27 | *** join/#wowuidev Ycarene (~Ycarene@72-24-228-245.cpe.cableone.net) |
| 02:30.33 | Arrowmaster | wtf http://i.imgur.com/yuHqB.gif |
| 02:31.48 | TC-Work | it's called nature |
| 02:31.52 | TC-Work | you should try it some time |
| 02:32.29 | Minalien | Why on earth would anybody want to deal with nature when we've spent centuries perfecting walls to separate it and us? |
| 02:33.04 | TC-Work | the walls were created to keep out man more than nature sadly. |
| 02:33.46 | Minalien | :P |
| 02:34.09 | *** join/#wowuidev pompy (~Mike@68.36.135.0) |
| 02:34.23 | Minalien | It may have been the case early on, but before even that it was intended to protect us from the effects of the natural world. Namely, creatures who would be predators and the effects of weather. |
| 02:34.56 | Minalien | Anyway. I'm thinking of getting into AddOn development, but it seems that everything has been done to death already. <.< |
| 02:34.57 | TC-Work | but they were not 'walls' they were simple baricades and fences. |
| 02:35.27 | SinusPi | and that was before Windows... |
| 02:35.46 | Minalien | If it's thick enough to keep out rain, it's a wall. <_< |
| 02:35.57 | TC-Work | we call that a roof |
| 02:36.06 | SinusPi | wall+roof = ? |
| 02:36.12 | SinusPi | woof. |
| 02:36.19 | TC-Work | lean-to? |
| 02:36.31 | Minalien | A roof would be all that's necessary if rain fell only perpendicular to the ground. But it doesn't, it falls at an angle, meaning walls are necessary. |
| 02:36.32 | Minalien | ;3 |
| 02:36.51 | SinusPi | Or, umbrellas. |
| 02:36.56 | Minalien | lolumbrellas. |
| 02:37.12 | TC-Work | A-Frame |
| 02:37.47 | SinusPi | B-wing |
| 02:41.17 | Amarande | Minalien: well, MoP will be a good time to break into addon development |
| 02:42.05 | xyphoid | really, i think you need something that annoys you about the current UI or some itch you want to scratch |
| 02:42.06 | Amarande | every expansion seems to see at least a few things need new addons, as older ones don't get the maintenance they need and the new expansion's changes break them |
| 02:42.31 | Amarande | then those of us who got used to having a given addon and don't find a suitable substitute start to get annoyed |
| 02:42.56 | xyphoid | early in the expansion has the issue that you might want to PLAY the game at that point |
| 02:46.04 | Minalien | Unfortunately xyphoid, I don't really have anything that I feel is missing right now that isn't already covered by a mod. Recount, Omen, Skillet... Hell, ElvUI even fixed my irritation at how ugly the default UI is. |
| 02:46.57 | Minalien | And I'll keep an eye out, but I haven't hit anything in the beta that I think I'd like to see added. I know the Monks will need a lot of things added (in the manner of all of the current class-specific tools), but so far the class isn't very interesting to me. |
| 02:55.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Kaylin (~Kaylin@c-98-203-233-187.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 02:57.39 | *** join/#wowuidev pompy1 (~Mike@68.36.135.0) |
| 03:01.52 | F16Gaming | *find group after hour in queue* *[SERVER] Shutdown in 10:00* |
| 03:03.44 | *** join/#wowuidev Zernin (~chatzilla@c-24-8-37-84.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 03:17.08 | Torhal | …WTF? http://i.imgur.com/N8AGB.jpg |
| 03:18.03 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 03:18.29 | Arrowmaster | and this is funny, 4 different weather services are giving me completely different 5 day forecasts |
| 03:19.42 | *** join/#wowuidev chrippa (~chrippa@tanuki.se) |
| 03:21.12 | Arrowmaster | google weather and wunderground say chance of tstorms through friday, weatherbug says tstorm wednesday then partly cloudy next 2 days, accuweather says really fucking hot wednesday tstorm thursday and partly cloudy friday |
| 03:21.24 | Arrowmaster | which one do i trust to set my homescreen widget to use |
| 03:22.26 | Arrowmaster | oh and none of the 4 can agree on the current temp |
| 03:26.08 | *** part/#wowuidev randomDude (~randomDud@ppp246-192.static.internode.on.net) |
| 03:26.48 | *** join/#wowuidev bluspacecow (~bluspacec@60-234-165-167.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) |
| 03:26.48 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v bluspacecow] by ChanServ |
| 03:40.38 | arton | on eBay - "HI THERE . IM SELLING THIS ITEM .. ONESTLY .I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOU IT. BUT MIGHT BE GGOD 4 U. PLEASE READ THIS PARTS O NOT WORKING ONLY , THE SCREEN LOOKS OK. I HAVE LIKE 20 PCS NO RETURN O EXCHANGE O REFUND .. PLEASE NOT SURE DONT BUY ... I NEED GOOD FEED BACK.. PLEASE LET ME KNOW ANY QUESTION OK BY" |
| 03:40.46 | arton | Might be a redneck |
| 03:41.03 | arton | chinese redneck |
| 03:45.54 | *** join/#wowuidev pompy (~Mike@68.36.135.0) |
| 03:55.46 | F16Gaming | something seems to be up with the packager |
| 03:55.54 | F16Gaming | http://i.imgur.com/wYGRY.png and http://pastebin.com/xcc2du73 |
| 03:56.37 | Zorben | Hi, I'm using TortoiseSVN to handle revisons on my addon. I have a separate working copy of my addon in my wow beta folder that has been updated to work on the beta. It seems obvious that I need to do some sort of branch/tag operation to maintain both a live release version and a beta version for the MoP beta, but Im a bit lost. Can someone point me towards a good resource to help me out.. |
| 03:56.40 | pompy | F16Gaming: lol you know you can link that instead of screenie it, for future reference ;) |
| 03:56.52 | F16Gaming | pompy: :o |
| 03:56.55 | Arrowmaster | https://plus.google.com/u/0/112413860260589530492/posts/jKnsUbmq2Ge |
| 03:57.05 | F16Gaming | anywho |
| 03:57.20 | F16Gaming | packager have issues with everything or is this specific to my repo :P |
| 03:57.30 | pompy | F16Gaming: http://www.wowace.com/addons/arl/repositories/mainline/packager/#w-packager-start-2012-07-02t18-21-18-719570 for ie |
| 03:58.22 | pompy | not just yours |
| 03:58.46 | F16Gaming | i assume it's being worked on then, i'll be patient :P |
| 04:00.10 | *** join/#wowuidev Corrodias (no@96-40-253-184.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) |
| 04:03.32 | pompy | F16Gaming: i let the person "in charge" know. |
| 04:03.39 | F16Gaming | ^^ |
| 04:03.48 | mckenziemc | kills Torhal. |
| 04:03.54 | pompy | be nice |
| 04:04.07 | mckenziemc | :( |
| 04:06.42 | F16Gaming | Zorben: seems you have to make a tag and then manually go to the files tab on CurseForge -> edit file -> set "Game Version" to 5.0.1. But maybe there's an easier way :P |
| 04:11.08 | Zorben | Ok, but at a more basic level, I make the beta folder with my addon a repository just like I set up the initial one (that has my live version), then I branch/tag it, then I put the beta version of the addon in it?? does that sound right? |
| 04:11.57 | F16Gaming | make a branch in your current repo, put in all the changes there |
| 04:12.26 | *** join/#wowuidev ZorbaBeta (tocohl@maximilian.pavlovian.net) |
| 04:12.52 | *** join/#wowuidev nebula169` (~nebula@c-75-72-138-186.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 04:13.22 | F16Gaming | then you could have the trunk version in your live wow copy, and the working copy on your beta client will be on the branch you created |
| 04:14.00 | *** join/#wowuidev bluspacecow_ (~bluspacec@60-234-165-167.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) |
| 04:14.00 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v bluspacecow_] by ChanServ |
| 04:14.44 | *** join/#wowuidev mckenziemc1 (~Mark@69.224.70.199) |
| 04:15.29 | Torhal | bluspacebarcow! |
| 04:15.47 | *** join/#wowuidev Cairenn (~Owner@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn) |
| 04:15.47 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 04:25.55 | bluspacecow | \o |
| 04:27.43 | Ackis | ~framexml |
| 04:27.43 | purl | from memory, framexml is Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 04:29.56 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (~Kaydeethr@wowwiki/Kaydeethree) |
| 04:30.16 | batbot | Shirik cannot destroy me. |
| 04:48.50 | pompy | F16Gaming: should package now |
| 04:48.58 | F16Gaming | pompy: ^^ |
| 04:50.06 | karl_w_w | ridiculousness: u cant move things around in your stash from the AH page |
| 04:51.27 | karl_w_w | search 1 handers with 55+ dex |
| 04:51.44 | karl_w_w | and like 5 pages of them have a buyout price of 2,000,000,0... |
| 04:52.02 | karl_w_w | ah u can hover, 2 billion |
| 04:59.23 | *** join/#wowuidev randomDude (~randomDud@ppp246-192.static.internode.on.net) |
| 05:09.46 | Adys | anyone here with sql experience able to give me feedback on something? |
| 05:12.40 | F16Gaming | pompy: i think an old issue with packager is back again |
| 05:13.01 | F16Gaming | if i push something new, it will put that on hold until something else is pushed, so it's always one push behind the current |
| 05:20.28 | xyphoid | adys: shoot |
| 05:20.34 | Adys | xyphoid: pm |
| 05:22.05 | karl_w_w | hands Adys a 45 magnum |
| 05:25.03 | *** join/#wowuidev nebula169 (~nebula@c-75-72-138-186.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 05:27.14 | *** part/#wowuidev randomDude (~randomDud@ppp246-192.static.internode.on.net) |
| 05:34.32 | Arrowmaster | why can i never find the dvds i want when im bored |
| 05:34.45 | Arrowmaster | who the fuck keeps moving my good scifi movies around |
| 05:37.59 | *** join/#wowuidev [-MiRai-] (~MiRai@99-106-144-143.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net) |
| 05:40.25 | *** join/#wowuidev bluspacecow (~bluspacec@60-234-165-167.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) |
| 05:40.28 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v bluspacecow] by ChanServ |
| 05:41.38 | Adys | Arrowmaster: find /media/series/Psych | xargs mplayer |
| 05:41.56 | Arrowmaster | dont have it never seen it |
| 05:42.03 | Adys | Die |
| 05:42.14 | Arrowmaster | and it would be xargs smplayer2 |
| 05:42.18 | Fisker | i want to sleep |
| 05:42.27 | Adys | i havent reinstalled smplayer2 |
| 05:42.40 | Adys | mostly because i would only do it if i compiled it |
| 05:42.49 | Adys | and since archlinux is awesome, i compile very little software atm |
| 05:43.18 | Arrowmaster | i use debian and never compile anything, ever |
| 05:43.34 | *** join/#wowuidev MiRai (~MiRai@99-106-144-143.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net) |
| 05:43.40 | Adys | thats because debian is probably still on gcc 0.7 |
| 05:43.41 | karl_w_w | i've seen like half an episode of psych, didnt really impress :P |
| 05:43.54 | Adys | karl_w_w: you have horrible taste and don't really count |
| 05:44.37 | Arrowmaster | i saw half an episode when i was in a hotel room, it was the one where they couldnt remember what they did the night before |
| 05:44.40 | Arrowmaster | didnt impress |
| 05:44.56 | Adys | your hotel sucked and was actually showing you twilight |
| 05:45.37 | Arrowmaster | probably, every hotel room ive been in in the last 5 years has had a big ass tv and shitty SD service so it looked like ass |
| 05:46.16 | karl_w_w | that's a lot of ass. sure you werent watching porn? |
| 05:46.53 | Arrowmaster | no the only one with porn was at blizzcon and it was overpriced, and i think id seen them all already |
| 05:51.54 | Arrowmaster | this is torture, i cant find anything good i want to watch but have tons of shitty stuff around |
| 05:51.55 | bleeter | (no spoilers) oops, severe plot flaw found in new Spiderman film http://i.imgur.com/uYjw0.png |
| 05:56.27 | Fisker | if he were paid a lot of money to use bing he certainly would've |
| 05:56.33 | clever | bing on my phone is a pain in the ass |
| 05:56.46 | clever | if you touch the search button by mistake, it closes whatever your doing and opens bing |
| 05:56.49 | clever | in any app |
| 05:56.53 | clever | and it cant be disabled |
| 06:02.07 | Fisker | just gonna viciously attack you clever |
| 06:02.21 | Fisker | sounds like you got a great windows 7 phone |
| 06:03.26 | clever | my dad got it, without any warning or questions :P |
| 06:03.44 | clever | just like an ipod touch showed up at the back door one day without warning |
| 06:04.20 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 06:04.29 | Fisker | reminds me of prison |
| 06:04.39 | Fisker | where i got a package up at the back door one day without warning |
| 06:05.22 | clever | both the windows 7 and ipod are completely useless for any kind of software dev |
| 06:05.37 | clever | the windows one needs vista/7 on the desktop to do anything (i have xp) |
| 06:05.44 | clever | the ipod needs a mac (none at all) |
| 06:07.18 | Fisker | :O |
| 06:07.24 | Fisker | you should get windows 7 |
| 06:07.49 | clever | trying to steer away from windows |
| 06:08.04 | Fisker | it's pretty awesome though :( |
| 06:10.42 | *** join/#wowuidev MiRai (~MiRai@unaffiliated/mirai) |
| 06:13.06 | *** join/#wowuidev cbreak-work (~cbreak@drz-wizzer.drz.ethz.ch) |
| 06:13.43 | *** join/#wowuidev tekkub (~tekkub@c-71-237-116-205.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 06:13.43 | *** join/#wowuidev tekkub (~tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub) |
| 06:13.43 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 06:15.24 | *** join/#wowuidev neonaleon (~neonaleon@cm42.kappa23.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 06:16.55 | karl_w_w | how do I format a number as x.xk ? |
| 06:19.15 | Thunder_Child | type it correctly |
| 06:20.20 | karl_w_w | Is anybody able to tell me how to use the format function to return a number shown in thousands to 1 decimal place followed by the letter k, please? |
| 06:20.27 | karl_w_w | better, Thunder_Child? :P |
| 06:20.47 | *** join/#wowuidev Elkano (~elkano@pool012.vpn.uni-saarland.de) |
| 06:20.47 | *** join/#wowuidev Elkano (~elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano) |
| 06:21.35 | Thunder_Child | see, was that so hard karl_w_w? |
| 06:23.01 | bluspacecow | @karl_w_w you want to format a number as s.e.x ? |
| 06:23.57 | pompy | lua>print(string.format("%.1f", 2,500).. "k") |
| 06:23.57 | lua_bot | pompy: 2.0k |
| 06:24.05 | pompy | damn |
| 06:24.56 | pompy | lua>print(string.format("%.1f", 2.500).. "k") |
| 06:24.56 | lua_bot | pompy: 2.5k |
| 06:24.59 | pompy | heh |
| 06:25.18 | karl_w_w | that's cheating :P |
| 06:26.44 | clever | lua>print(string.format("%.1f",Math.floor(2560/100)/10).. "k") |
| 06:26.44 | lua_bot | clever: luabot:1: attempt to index global 'Math' (a nil value) |
| 06:26.52 | clever | something like that is my best guess |
| 06:27.10 | clever | lua>print(string.format("%.1f",floor(2560/100)/10).. "k") |
| 06:27.11 | karl_w_w | lua>print(string.format("%.1f",math.floor(2560/100)/10).. "k") |
| 06:27.11 | lua_bot | clever: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'floor' (a nil value) |
| 06:27.11 | lua_bot | karl_w_w: 2.5k |
| 06:27.20 | clever | ah, lowercase |
| 06:28.10 | clever | heads to bed |
| 06:29.20 | karl_w_w | lua>print(string.format("%.1f",math.floor(208560/100)/10).. "k") |
| 06:29.20 | lua_bot | karl_w_w: 208.5k |
| 06:30.56 | clever | only problem i can see would be negative numbers, floor rounds the wrong way |
| 06:31.19 | clever | and you may want that to show as 208.6k |
| 06:31.22 | karl_w_w | yeah, but there won't be negative |
| 06:31.26 | karl_w_w | unless I broke the addon |
| 06:31.45 | *** join/#wowuidev dubf (~quassel@98.115.92.62.static.cust.telenor.com) |
| 06:31.47 | clever | floor, ceil and round should all work |
| 06:31.52 | karl_w_w | and I'm not using it for < 1000 so it would show up |
| 06:32.12 | clever | lua>print(string.format("%.1f",math.floor(500/100)/10).. "k") |
| 06:32.12 | lua_bot | clever: 0.5k |
| 06:32.28 | pompy | lua>print(string.format("%.1f",math.floor(math.round(208560/100)/10)).. "k") |
| 06:32.28 | lua_bot | pompy: luabot:1: attempt to call field 'round' (a nil value) |
| 06:32.45 | clever | would work for stuff as low as 100, but not exactly the most compact/acurate way to show 100-900 |
| 06:33.22 | pompy | lua>print(string.format("%.1f",math.floor(208560/1000).. "k") |
| 06:33.22 | lua_bot | pompy: luabot:1: ')' expected near '<eof>' |
| 06:33.28 | clever | pompy: you can emulate round by just using floor(x+0.5) |
| 06:33.43 | pompy | lua>print(string.format("%.1f",math.floor(208560/1000)).. "k") |
| 06:33.43 | lua_bot | pompy: 208.0k |
| 06:34.05 | karl_w_w | lua> amount = 256 if amount < 1000 then print(amount) else print(string.format("%.1f",math.floor(amount/100)/10).. "k") end |
| 06:34.05 | lua_bot | karl_w_w: 256 |
| 06:34.31 | clever | karl_w_w: could even extend it to handle m the same way |
| 06:34.42 | pompy | lua> amount = 6554 if amount < 1000 then print(amount) else print(string.format("%.1f",math.floor(amount/100)/10).. "k") end |
| 06:34.42 | lua_bot | pompy: 6.5k |
| 06:34.59 | *** join/#wowuidev nebula169` (~nebula@c-75-72-138-186.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 06:35.11 | karl_w_w | i dont think ignite per 2s + pyroblast dot per 2s will be over 1 million in this expansion |
| 06:35.33 | karl_w_w | fire mages would smash in pvp if it was :P |
| 06:36.54 | karl_w_w | lua> amount = 2560 if amount < 1000 then print(amount) else print(string.format("%.1f",math.floor(amount/100+0.5)/10).. "k") end |
| 06:36.55 | lua_bot | karl_w_w: 2.6k |
| 06:37.22 | karl_w_w | lua> amount = 950 if amount < 1000 then print(amount) else print(string.format("%.1f",math.floor(amount/100+0.5)/10).. "k") end |
| 06:37.22 | lua_bot | karl_w_w: 950 |
| 06:44.52 | AcidWeb | karl_w_w: http://pastebin.com/sTUKRdpi |
| 06:45.00 | AcidWeb | Bulky... but working ;p |
| 06:55.32 | Arrowmaster | hey look a kitty http://i.imgur.com/1dJ0R.jpg |
| 06:57.11 | karl_w_w | wth is that a reflection of |
| 06:57.28 | karl_w_w | a mouse being held up by the tail maybe |
| 06:58.54 | karl_w_w | if so it must be shopped |
| 06:59.56 | zenzio | "Has anyone done a study of the surface normals of large architectural sheets of glass in actual installations (stressed)?" |
| 07:00.06 | zenzio | I don't know what Carmack's next game is, but it'll have awesome glass |
| 07:00.22 | *** join/#wowuidev Kesava (~kesava@87.114.160.101) |
| 07:02.30 | bleeter | here we go http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/07/watch-live-higgs-talk/ |
| 07:02.40 | Fisker | nope |
| 07:02.55 | zenzio | bleeter: yeah, watching that - I want to be part of history \o/ |
| 07:03.26 | Fisker | 1000 years from now people will talk about the great zenzio who watched the discovery of other people? |
| 07:03.36 | zenzio | I no rite? |
| 07:03.42 | Fisker | doesn't sound likely |
| 07:03.47 | zenzio | :( |
| 07:03.56 | bleeter | 1000 years from now people will talk about the fail troll of Fisker |
| 07:04.07 | zenzio | well 1000 years from now I'll be looking back at when I watched the Higgs stream |
| 07:04.40 | zenzio | oh man, dry humour |
| 07:04.57 | Fisker | 1000 years from now people will definitively prove that the Fisker religion was not based on trolling bleeter |
| 07:05.43 | karl_w_w | 1000 years from now people wont know what trolling is |
| 07:06.23 | karl_w_w | Fisker however will be the person everyone talks about going back in time to kill as a baby |
| 07:08.06 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@cpc2-craw2-0-0-cust1299.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 07:08.06 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Dev/Brykrys) |
| 07:15.46 | zenzio | the guy either sounds stressed or like he has something really exciting to say but can't just say flat out |
| 07:16.04 | bleeter | he said just after the start that he was very nervous |
| 07:16.18 | *** join/#wowuidev Iriel (~Iriel@173-8-135-209-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 07:16.18 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 07:16.33 | bleeter | i also think he let slip in a side comment that they've got the higgs, but don't quote me on that one ;) |
| 07:17.07 | zenzio | I'm enjoying listening to this, even though I get lost every time he goes into the good parts |
| 07:17.49 | zenzio | I do feel sorry for him; being the head presenter of such a large press conference can't be easy at the best of times |
| 07:18.13 | zenzio | on the other hand, 1000 years from now he might actually be remembered for it ;-p |
| 07:21.12 | zenzio | anyone know how I can find out what IP a computer (that I'm using) is trying to use to connect to an external FTP server? I'd prefer not having to set up my own FTP server on another machine to find out |
| 07:21.43 | zenzio | reason being a customer is supposed to have whitelisted our IP for their FTP, but the connection times out, and I suspect it's using the wrong IP |
| 07:22.10 | bleeter | dunno, but have you asked the customer to try passive FTP? |
| 07:22.33 | bleeter | some systems (firewalls, servers etc.) don't work with non-passive |
| 07:22.48 | zenzio | haven't talked to him yet, would just prefer if I could be sure that I had given him the right IP; but I'll try that |
| 07:24.40 | bleeter | well socat/wireshark etc. will who what they're using, but i dunno if usable by you in the given situation |
| 07:24.56 | *** join/#wowuidev Kalroth (~md@mail1.retailplanit.com) |
| 07:26.14 | zenzio | I need to connect from our server, which is only accessible through SSH. I'll check if I have an FTP server on any of our/my other servers and if I can use that, but otherwise I'll just have to talk to the customer about it |
| 07:26.25 | zenzio | cheers for the input, PASV might be a good idea at least |
| 07:35.45 | *** join/#wowuidev brykryss (~chatzilla@cpc2-craw2-0-0-cust1299.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 07:38.13 | zenzio | I feel so left out when they all burst into applause and all I caught was "gamma gamma" |
| 07:38.27 | Thunder_Child | it was about the 5 |
| 07:38.31 | bleeter | 'five standard deviations' |
| 07:38.47 | zenzio | so that's a significant number of deviations then? |
| 07:39.42 | mitch0 | it's 99.999% sure then (afaik) |
| 07:39.44 | bleeter | 5 std devs is something nutty like (WP here) 99.9999426697% |
| 07:40.09 | bleeter | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_deviation#Rules_for_normally_distributed_data |
| 07:43.59 | zenzio | ah, cool |
| 07:45.55 | bleeter | must be reassuring to know they don't have to scrap the Standard Model |
| 07:46.05 | zenzio | hehe |
| 07:46.16 | zenzio | yeah, we have enough non-standard stuff already ;) |
| 07:49.00 | arton | Higgs found? https://twitter.com/newscientist/status/220414766101962752 |
| 07:49.09 | Adys | yes |
| 07:49.13 | Adys | about 10 mins ago |
| 07:49.15 | zenzio | are you not watching the stream? :-o |
| 07:49.35 | arton | I am actually. :) It's a bit over my head though. Twitter worked. |
| 07:49.51 | zenzio | hehe |
| 07:52.02 | zenzio | I have a desire to create a huge black image with just one white pixel, titled "where is your god now", but with my understanding of physics and all of this I'm sure I'd just make a fool of myself |
| 07:53.17 | zenzio | but man, those machines just look wicked |
| 07:56.02 | Fisker | so old |
| 07:56.53 | bleeter | COMIC SANS |
| 07:57.15 | *** join/#wowuidev pb_ee1 (~pb_ee1@83.167.37.146) |
| 07:58.10 | Adys | lol bleeter |
| 07:58.28 | bleeter | fuck knows what she's saying, I'm just staring at the writing |
| 08:02.42 | bleeter | Comic Boson |
| 08:04.07 | mckenziemc | ~emulate bleete |
| 08:04.14 | mckenziemc | ~emulate bleeter |
| 08:04.14 | purl | ACTION rant RANT rant waaa MOAR COFFEE <sub>GOOD IDEA</sub>rant waa MOAR COFFEE rant rant MOAR MOAR <blink><h1>terribad idea</h1></blink> rant |
| 08:08.09 | arton | burps. |
| 08:10.49 | *** join/#wowuidev harl (harl@dslb-094-220-194-118.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 08:10.49 | *** join/#wowuidev zenzelezz (~zenzelezz@cm-84.212.107.146.getinternet.no) |
| 08:10.49 | *** join/#wowuidev Stanzilla (Stan@harpy.gmake.de) |
| 08:15.04 | *** join/#wowuidev harl (harl@dslb-094-220-194-118.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 08:15.04 | *** join/#wowuidev zenzelezz (~zenzelezz@cm-84.212.107.146.getinternet.no) |
| 08:15.04 | *** join/#wowuidev Stanzilla (Stan@harpy.gmake.de) |
| 08:18.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Antze (~Antze@77.238.236.80) |
| 08:28.21 | *** join/#wowuidev sylvanaar (~sylvanaar@pdpc/supporter/active/sylvanaar) |
| 08:31.42 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@cpc2-craw2-0-0-cust1299.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 08:31.42 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Dev/Brykrys) |
| 08:43.14 | *** join/#wowuidev rtharper (~tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht) |
| 08:43.51 | bleeter | updated http://havewefoundthehiggsbosonyet.org/ |
| 08:47.06 | Kalroth | :D |
| 08:47.38 | zenzio | I know it's a natural reaction, but it still amuses me to hear scientists cheering and applauding so much |
| 09:01.23 | Adys | time for sleep |
| 09:01.24 | Adys | night |
| 09:01.42 | Arrowmaster | isnt it morning there |
| 09:02.45 | *** join/#wowuidev neonaleon (~neonaleon@cm42.kappa23.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 09:16.23 | Fisker | man Arrowmaster you troll |
| 09:16.36 | Fisker | ~ugt |
| 09:16.37 | purl | from memory, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 09:20.26 | *** join/#wowuidev Liath (~Liath@fctnnbsc30w-198164211244.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.nb.bellaliant.net) |
| 09:20.28 | *** join/#wowuidev Liath (~Liath@unaffiliated/liath) |
| 09:25.04 | *** join/#wowuidev harl (harl@dslb-094-220-194-118.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 09:25.43 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@cpc2-craw2-0-0-cust1299.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 09:25.43 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Dev/Brykrys) |
| 09:34.48 | Fisker | aww Dagmar |
| 09:35.32 | Fisker | or maybe not |
| 09:45.00 | *** join/#wowuidev rtharper (~tomh@client-7-194.eduroam.oxuni.org.uk) |
| 09:45.00 | *** join/#wowuidev rtharper (~tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht) |
| 10:01.26 | *** join/#wowuidev mascondante (~mascondan@66.119.110.130) |
| 10:14.59 | *** join/#wowuidev nebula169 (~nebula@c-75-72-138-186.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 10:23.38 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@cpc2-craw2-0-0-cust1299.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 10:23.38 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Dev/Brykrys) |
| 10:28.12 | *** join/#wowuidev bluspacecow (~bluspacec@60-234-165-167.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) |
| 10:28.12 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v bluspacecow] by ChanServ |
| 10:33.52 | zenzio | I'm eagerly awaiting Sheldon Cooper's reaction to the Higgs boson |
| 10:34.50 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:35.15 | Humbedooh | oh you.. |
| 10:35.19 | bluspacecow | giggity |
| 10:39.43 | zenzio | bazinga! |
| 10:52.37 | *** join/#wowuidev Kesava (~kesava@87.114.160.101) |
| 10:59.55 | *** join/#wowuidev Kodiack (~Colton@96-42-240-206.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) |
| 11:00.55 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys (~adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 11:04.38 | Adys | New EU data rules came in on Sunday. Take your mobile around the EU and you now can't be charged over 69p/MB. |
| 11:04.40 | Adys | \o/ |
| 11:05.44 | zenzio | sweet :) |
| 11:09.49 | *** join/#wowuidev Computerpunk (~Computerp@79.115.140.249) |
| 11:11.12 | Adys | > We currently set of fireworks on November the 5th to celebrate the defeat of a theocratic coup plot. The Americans celebrate the establishment of a de facto theocracy. |
| 11:11.12 | Adys | We set off fireworks on November the 5th because fireworks are fucking awesome. The americans set off fireworks on July 4th because fireworks are FUCKING AWESOME. |
| 11:12.13 | zenzio | hehe |
| 11:12.59 | zenzio | we are no longer allowed to use fireworks with guide sticks (basically all the rockets); only the battery-kind |
| 11:13.06 | zenzio | which makes it less fun |
| 11:16.09 | arton | Let's ban zombie drugs! People are dying! |
| 11:18.27 | Fisker | 69p/MB is still way way way too much Adys |
| 11:28.36 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys_ (~adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 12:04.02 | *** join/#wowuidev rtharper_ (~tomh@client-7-194.eduroam.oxuni.org.uk) |
| 12:04.02 | *** join/#wowuidev rtharper_ (~tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht) |
| 12:22.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Droolio (~drool@host86-177-53-111.range86-177.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:33.37 | *** join/#wowuidev Motig (~Motig@g90037.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 12:40.06 | zenzio | hm, ACTA rejected 439 vs 39; 165 abstentations |
| 12:40.10 | zenzio | should send a message |
| 12:40.42 | zenzio | it won't but it should |
| 12:52.57 | Adys | ugh |
| 12:53.10 | Adys | my htc desire's usb port is completely breaking apart |
| 12:53.17 | Adys | any idea how much it would cost to repair it? |
| 12:53.34 | Fisker | more than getting a proper new phone lol |
| 12:53.59 | zenzio | don't have a solution, but what model do you have? |
| 12:55.29 | haste | Adys: dh? |
| 12:55.35 | haste | s/dh/hd/ |
| 12:59.59 | Amarande | HTC Desire ... that's the same one that's called the Inspire on US AT&T, right? |
| 13:04.02 | zenzio | there are lots of Desire models |
| 13:04.12 | zenzio | mine, the Z, is simply called "G2" in the US I think |
| 13:08.52 | karl_w_w | sum1 name one of the 4 horsemen I have a blank in my brain |
| 13:09.16 | neonaleon | baron rivendare |
| 13:09.30 | karl_w_w | cheers |
| 13:10.00 | zenzio | Blameaux, Zeliek, Mograine... who was the last one again |
| 13:10.39 | *** join/#wowuidev Elkano (~elkano@pool021.vpn.uni-saarland.de) |
| 13:10.39 | *** join/#wowuidev Elkano (~elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano) |
| 13:14.12 | Amarande | yeah, I'm pretty sure my Inspire 4G is a Desire model (it actually will say "Desire HD" as one of the speaker options when you go to change the speaker in a call, e.g. when you forget to turn off your bluetooth before putting it into the charger across the room ...) |
| 13:14.23 | Amarande | I'm trying to figure out how the USB port on those things would be breaking apart though |
| 13:14.29 | Amarande | HTCs use a solid metal shell :| |
| 13:14.42 | Amarande | I could see it with something flimsy like an iPhone, but an HTC Android device? :S |
| 13:15.17 | Amarande | (heh. a few weeks ago I was on an Amtrak train going from New York to Baltimore and someone on the train asked what those iPhones were ... I said "kind of like Androids but not as good") |
| 13:19.48 | *** join/#wowuidev Tuller (~tuller@c-76-21-187-154.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 13:45.58 | *** join/#wowuidev Drool (~drool@host86-177-53-111.range86-177.btcentralplus.com) |
| 13:51.18 | Kraps | does dual-wielding crossbows all have the 15% thing? |
| 13:51.21 | Kraps | also* |
| 13:51.49 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
| 13:52.49 | Kraps | hey Fisker |
| 13:53.13 | Fisker | no Kraps |
| 13:53.58 | Kraps | no? |
| 13:54.13 | Amarande | dual ... wielding ... crossbows ? |
| 13:55.11 | Kraps | in D3 Amarande |
| 13:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@cpc2-craw2-0-0-cust1299.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 13:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Dev/Brykrys) |
| 13:56.54 | Amarande | tries to wrap brain around the idea of dual wielded crossbows |
| 13:59.08 | Kraps | pshhhh old http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WByqPqwBrzs |
| 14:01.41 | arton | dual wielded crossbows for real? nerf inc |
| 14:03.19 | *** join/#wowuidev Tuller_ (~tuller@c-76-21-187-154.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 14:03.38 | Kraps | hehe |
| 14:05.25 | Fisker | atleast it wasn't dual wielded bows |
| 14:06.06 | zenzio | http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2012/07/04/10326641.aspx |
| 14:06.25 | Fisker | pre-emptive old |
| 14:06.35 | zenzio | it's both old and new |
| 14:07.27 | *** join/#wowuidev foxlit (~foxlit@0x573e6bae.alb2nxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 14:07.38 | Fisker | hah |
| 14:08.50 | *** join/#wowuidev the-golem_ (~Darrin@c-24-10-17-129.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 14:14.07 | *** join/#wowuidev jeffy162 (485c3d99@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.92.61.153) |
| 14:14.49 | *** join/#wowuidev nebula169` (~nebula@c-75-72-138-186.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 14:15.31 | *** join/#wowuidev randomDude (~randomDud@ppp241-218.static.internode.on.net) |
| 14:16.00 | *** part/#wowuidev jeffy162 (485c3d99@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.92.61.153) |
| 14:19.41 | *** join/#wowuidev Motig (~Motig@g90037.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 14:23.57 | *** join/#wowuidev bluspacecow (~bluspacec@60-234-165-167.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) |
| 14:23.57 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v bluspacecow] by ChanServ |
| 14:26.13 | foxlit | Out of interest, are icons in spell tooltips just as bugged for everyone else on beta as they are for me? |
| 14:26.30 | karl_w_w | !api ctrl |
| 14:26.32 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'ctrl'. |
| 14:26.34 | *** join/#wowuidev Owner_ (~chatzilla@pool-72-92-61-153.phlapa.east.verizon.net) |
| 14:26.36 | karl_w_w | !api control |
| 14:26.36 | lua_bot | Found 30 possible matches for 'control'. Please be more specific or check Google search results: http://is.gd/O6LG29 |
| 14:26.59 | karl_w_w | !api down |
| 14:26.59 | lua_bot | Found 55 possible matches for 'down'. Please be more specific or check Google search results: http://is.gd/O6LG29 |
| 14:27.03 | karl_w_w | right |
| 14:27.17 | foxlit | !api iscontrol |
| 14:27.17 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'iscontrol': UnitIsControlling, IsControlKeyDown |
| 14:27.29 | karl_w_w | lix foxlit |
| 14:36.59 | karl_w_w | !api unitbuff |
| 14:36.59 | lua_bot | Found 3 possible results for 'unitbuff': GameTooltip:SetUnitBuff, CancelUnitBuff, UnitBuff |
| 14:37.08 | karl_w_w | !api UnitBuff |
| 14:37.09 | lua_bot | UnitBuff: Returns information about a buff on a unit (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitBuff) |
| 14:37.11 | *** join/#wowuidev Kaylin (~Kaylin@c-98-203-233-187.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 14:37.53 | karl_w_w | weird, it returned nothing |
| 14:38.52 | karl_w_w | because i need Aura |
| 14:38.54 | karl_w_w | facepalms |
| 14:39.34 | karl_w_w | nope, still doesnt work |
| 14:40.58 | karl_w_w | doesnt seem to be working for debuffs |
| 14:41.01 | arkanes | karl_w_w: what're you looking for? |
| 14:41.24 | Kaylin | boyfriend. |
| 14:41.29 | karl_w_w | that's it |
| 14:41.32 | arkanes | heh |
| 14:41.47 | Kaylin | I am making cinnamon rolls and I have ham and potatoes. |
| 14:41.48 | arkanes | karl_w_w: if you're trying to get debuffs, you need to pass "HARMFUL" for the filter argument |
| 14:42.03 | karl_w_w | is that new? |
| 14:42.11 | arkanes | Kaylin: you keep that up honey and you'll have yourself a boyfriend in no time |
| 14:42.17 | arkanes | karl_w_w: not in the slightest |
| 14:42.19 | foxlit | no, unitaura was always wonky. |
| 14:42.20 | Kaylin | :) |
| 14:42.25 | foxlit | it's unitdebuff that's old. |
| 14:43.42 | arkanes | unitaura and the way it works now dates back to BC |
| 14:45.24 | arkanes | replenishment is gone in mop, right? |
| 14:46.12 | karl_w_w | dont /know/ but i heard something about that a few months ago |
| 14:46.12 | foxlit | grr, Symbiosis. |
| 14:46.16 | foxlit | grr! |
| 14:55.35 | karl_w_w | ugh |
| 14:55.44 | karl_w_w | how do u comment out a block in lua? |
| 14:56.02 | Kalroth | --[[ .... ]] i think |
| 14:56.17 | karl_w_w | ah yes |
| 14:56.37 | karl_w_w | i was trying to use 1 bracket and wondering why my editor wasnt showing it commented |
| 15:00.36 | *** join/#wowuidev jeffy162 (~chatzilla@pool-72-92-61-153.phlapa.east.verizon.net) |
| 15:03.49 | Kraps | eeeee the ring vendor in new tristram is so good |
| 15:04.27 | *** join/#wowuidev jeffy162 (~chatzilla@pool-72-92-61-153.phlapa.east.verizon.net) |
| 15:05.02 | *** join/#wowuidev MentalPower (~textual@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
| 15:05.02 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v MentalPower] by ChanServ |
| 15:05.08 | *** join/#wowuidev jeffy162 (~chatzilla@pool-72-92-61-153.phlapa.east.verizon.net) |
| 15:05.31 | bluspacecow | ring vendor ? |
| 15:07.39 | Kraps | theres a vendor near where the jewelcrafter stands |
| 15:07.51 | Kraps | he sells rings and amulets |
| 15:10.35 | bluspacecow | the fence dude ? |
| 15:12.28 | Kraps | he ive been playing all this time w/o a companion |
| 15:12.33 | Kraps | hey* |
| 15:13.08 | *** join/#wowuidev jeffy162 (~jeffy162_@pool-72-92-61-153.phlapa.east.verizon.net) |
| 15:14.58 | Kraps | yeah bluspacecow |
| 15:15.33 | *** join/#wowuidev Kalroth (~Kalroth@d40aa5af.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 15:18.09 | Kesava | guessing the API/events for runes aren't working on the beta? |
| 15:18.41 | *** part/#wowuidev jeffy162 (~jeffy162_@pool-72-92-61-153.phlapa.east.verizon.net) |
| 15:19.44 | Kesava | actually that doesn't make sense. i'm confused. |
| 15:23.38 | Kesava | seems like the events are just refusing to register.. |
| 15:26.04 | *** join/#wowuidev Kesava (~kesava@87.114.160.101) |
| 15:26.57 | *** join/#wowuidev Tuller (~tuller@c-76-21-187-154.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 15:27.46 | *** join/#wowuidev stolenlegacy (stolenlega@unaffiliated/stolenlegacy) |
| 15:31.53 | *** join/#wowuidev Droolio (~drool@host86-177-53-111.range86-177.btcentralplus.com) |
| 15:42.03 | *** join/#wowuidev dcrouch (~Kenpachi-@76-220-213-89.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 15:42.07 | dcrouch | Hey everyone. :) |
| 15:42.12 | Kaylin | hiya! |
| 15:42.26 | dcrouch | If I want to test some battleground functions anyway of testing without actually being in battleground. LOL Complete noob with LUA. |
| 15:42.42 | dcrouch | I have WOW Lua but feel that I may be called AFK a lot testing. |
| 15:42.51 | nevcairiel | usually you just go and AFK in a battleground :P |
| 15:43.36 | Kaylin | probably, you can call your function directly if it's global, or call it from another common function like say when you type /time, so you can make sure you understand how it works, but in the end really you do need to play a bg :X |
| 15:43.57 | dcrouch | Thanks. :) |
| 15:49.46 | dcrouch | Know of a grid addon that scales to the size of BG/party/raid? |
| 15:54.35 | SinusPi | I now hate microdungeons with a gorram passion. >_< |
| 15:55.01 | foxlit | in other words, you hate caves? |
| 15:55.11 | SinusPi | mapped caves. |
| 15:55.28 | foxlit | all caves are mapped caves :P |
| 15:55.41 | SinusPi | They're all mapped now? Not just the chosen few? |
| 15:55.44 | foxlit | unless the cave is like 2 yard square. |
| 15:55.53 | SinusPi | Fuck -_- |
| 15:56.45 | SinusPi | Sooo... is there anything other than GetMapInfo() to help, to tell how the cave is projected onto the zone..? |
| 15:57.27 | SinusPi | because it's a nightmare not being able to trust GetCurrentMapAreaID() + GetPlayerMapPosition() anymore... |
| 15:57.56 | SinusPi | seeing that a call to GetMapInfo() is now needed, to make sure that the coords are not in some bloody hole in the ground -_- |
| 15:58.27 | foxlit | I'm not familiar with mapping. |
| 15:58.31 | SinusPi | Bleh :( |
| 16:00.31 | jnwhiteh | just spent an hour+ on Rakanoth |
| 16:00.36 | jnwhiteh | solo wizard hell |
| 16:00.37 | jnwhiteh | how annoying. |
| 16:00.47 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (~Kaydeethr@wowwiki/Kaydeethree) |
| 16:01.59 | SinusPi | wizard isn't a class for solo play "( |
| 16:02.29 | SinusPi | especially with the new repair costs, I lose more than I make, and have to compensate with farming lower levels :/ |
| 16:03.17 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 16:03.21 | jnwhiteh | i wish I had realied that |
| 16:03.31 | nevcairiel | make friends? :d |
| 16:03.58 | nevcairiel | in a group wizard is really fun |
| 16:04.00 | jnwhiteh | or roll barb |
| 16:04.03 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 16:04.07 | nevcairiel | solo i love my DH |
| 16:04.11 | jnwhiteh | really? |
| 16:04.15 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 16:04.20 | jnwhiteh | just smoke away? |
| 16:04.24 | arkanes | so windsong procs off like... everything |
| 16:04.27 | arkanes | recuperate ticks |
| 16:04.33 | arkanes | s&d |
| 16:04.41 | arkanes | full of crazy |
| 16:05.43 | nevcairiel | i usually just kill most things before it can be dangerous to me, and some elites i kite a bit, which goes surprisingly well with traps and the follower to distract them =p |
| 16:07.04 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 16:07.07 | jnwhiteh | dh are cheaters, imo |
| 16:07.14 | jnwhiteh | i should just level mine, though |
| 16:07.27 | Torhal | Anything Blizzard does with Hunter in it is cheat. |
| 16:08.03 | Torhal | Though they usually buff the ones on WoW... |
| 16:09.28 | dcrouch | jnwhiteh you're on Hell difficulty now? |
| 16:09.55 | dcrouch | My wizard is fun solo. |
| 16:10.02 | dcrouch | Well was. :-p |
| 16:10.03 | Humbedooh | dcrouch, or "moving to sweden" as it's also called |
| 16:10.51 | dcrouch | Humbedooh what's that a reference to? |
| 16:11.34 | Humbedooh | dcrouch, it literally means moving to sweden ;p |
| 16:11.57 | Humbedooh | but nvm :) |
| 16:12.12 | foxlit | There are situations that are downright unpleasant to a wizard. |
| 16:12.27 | foxlit | But all things considered, it's probably viable. |
| 16:13.16 | karl_w_w | !api screenshot |
| 16:13.17 | lua_bot | Found 3 possible results for 'screenshot': SCREENSHOT_FAILED, Screenshot, SCREENSHOT_SUCCEEDED |
| 16:13.22 | karl_w_w | !api Screenshot |
| 16:13.22 | lua_bot | Screenshot: Saves an image of the current game display (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/Screenshot) |
| 16:15.55 | *** join/#wowuidev mitchnull (~opera@2E6B3AE7.catv.pool.telekom.hu) |
| 16:17.47 | dcrouch | foxlit I turned my wizard into a tank, where nothing one shot her. So it was viable in everything but boss kills due to enrage timers. |
| 16:18.09 | foxlit | dcrouch: nothing one shots you anyway with force armor. |
| 16:18.45 | dcrouch | I didn't use force, but 35% armor? I used the one for more resistance. With a warrior in the group my resistances were over 1500. LOL |
| 16:19.21 | foxlit | I think you mean the resistance bonus. |
| 16:19.31 | foxlit | since armor is shared among all force armor variants |
| 16:19.32 | dcrouch | 40% bonus to resist. |
| 16:19.33 | *** join/#wowuidev M1Garand (BlackNet@unaffiliated/blacknet) |
| 16:19.33 | dcrouch | Yes. |
| 16:19.44 | foxlit | But that's mostly boring since you're in a group. |
| 16:19.56 | foxlit | The question is, are you able to take sustained damage while alone? |
| 16:20.33 | dcrouch | 650 life per second and 50 life per hit. Never geared up, got bored, but that's with the gear I have. |
| 16:20.44 | dcrouch | I kited a lot of things when I was getting low. |
| 16:20.55 | foxlit | ~2k life per sec for me. |
| 16:21.11 | foxlit | but that's not the point, I still die if cornered. |
| 16:21.54 | foxlit | The point is, there are some things you can't kite -- fast elite packs of some types, for instance. Can you survive those with a "tank" wizard build? :) |
| 16:22.31 | pompy | http://www.facebook.com/Warcraft/posts/320400461386362 |
| 16:22.40 | nevcairiel | whats also fun is horde packs of some types, some really shouldn't be allowed horde, like the big charging beasts in act1 :P |
| 16:22.55 | foxlit | those are fun! |
| 16:23.21 | foxlit | but mostly harmless, unless you happen to win a roll and get a Teleport/Jailer/Vortex horde. |
| 16:25.30 | karl_w_w | where's this quest that's meant to ding you from 85 to 86? |
| 16:26.27 | *** join/#wowuidev Ingela (~Ingela@90-230-170-118-no35.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 16:26.32 | *** join/#wowuidev Monolit|2 (~Strigoy@89.112.4.92.pppoe.eltel.net) |
| 16:29.09 | karl_w_w | ah yes |
| 16:33.21 | dcrouch | foxlit nothing really gave me trouble except boredom. |
| 16:34.00 | foxlit | fast spiderlings, fast betrayed, fast soulrippers, etc. |
| 16:34.17 | karl_w_w | now where's the quest to instantly ding me to 90 :P |
| 16:34.24 | dcrouch | foxlit more annoying to me was morter waller desecrate vortex |
| 16:35.01 | karl_w_w | swap waller for jailor dcrouch |
| 16:35.06 | karl_w_w | then /wrists |
| 16:35.37 | foxlit | random wallers occasionally get you stuck in between walls. That's frustrating :( |
| 16:35.38 | dcrouch | Waller seemed to have a higher frequency to me than jail for some reason as far as amount spawned in my way. |
| 16:35.56 | dcrouch | Getting stuck on desecrate. :( |
| 16:36.09 | karl_w_w | at least with walls u can often move around |
| 16:37.40 | karl_w_w | any1 getting audio crackle on beta? |
| 16:43.34 | *** join/#wowuidev MentalPower (~textual@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
| 16:43.34 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v MentalPower] by ChanServ |
| 16:45.32 | *** join/#wowuidev Elkano (~elkano@pool011.vpn.uni-saarland.de) |
| 16:45.32 | *** join/#wowuidev Elkano (~elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano) |
| 16:45.41 | bluspacecow | it r sleep tiems |
| 16:46.46 | Fisker | no! |
| 16:59.38 | *** join/#wowuidev cbreak (~cbreak@217-162-236-119.dynamic.hispeed.ch) |
| 17:02.55 | *** join/#wowuidev Dewin (~Daniel@c-76-28-131-143.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 17:15.10 | *** join/#wowuidev nebula169 (~nebula@c-75-72-138-186.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 17:25.02 | *** join/#wowuidev MentalPower (~textual@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
| 17:25.02 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v MentalPower] by ChanServ |
| 17:33.36 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@cpc2-craw2-0-0-cust1299.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:33.36 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Dev/Brykrys) |
| 17:37.39 | Kraps | hey guys |
| 17:37.53 | Kraps | this woman, who used my wifi once to upload her daily workout numbers, wanted to pay me FORTY BUCKS FOR IT |
| 17:39.13 | Kaylin | it's possible. consider how much people pay to use wifi on say an aeroplane. if they really need it or w/e. *shrug* |
| 17:39.27 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@cpc2-craw2-0-0-cust1299.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:39.28 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Dev/Brykrys) |
| 17:39.56 | Kraps | that is a shitty way to look at it |
| 17:40.14 | nevcairiel | so Kaylin would've taken the 40 bucks |
| 17:40.37 | Arrowmaster | your supposed to decline once and then when they insist take it |
| 17:40.54 | Kraps | i dont need 40 bucks for the fraction of a second my wifi is used |
| 17:41.17 | Kaylin | no but having food for the week for a fraction of a second of wifi use is nice too. |
| 17:41.40 | arkanes | I thought you had cinnamon rolls and ham |
| 17:41.45 | Kaylin | I do |
| 17:41.46 | arkanes | you should be good on food |
| 17:42.05 | Kraps | yeah its like we life the exact same lifestyle or something |
| 17:42.13 | Kraps | oh wait we dont |
| 17:42.54 | Kaylin | I'm confused. |
| 17:43.03 | *** part/#wowuidev Cyclops (~unclecycl@host-69-145-24-173.gdj-co.client.bresnan.net) |
| 17:43.19 | Kaylin | I just explained a reason people would offer a lot of money for something like that, I don't see why the hostility :X |
| 17:46.09 | Kraps | well thanks to my mom for intervening so no one would have hurt feelings, i still got $20 |
| 17:47.47 | Kraps | i'm distracted as hell because of how much this bothers me |
| 17:47.53 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?threaded=1&v=sWOrYLX01eA -> sort by thread -> read first comment -> tell me I'm wrong |
| 17:48.45 | Kraps | tf...?? |
| 17:55.38 | Kraps | hey in the hidden camp how many vendors are supposed to be there |
| 17:58.06 | foxlit | depends. One or two most of the time? |
| 17:58.10 | foxlit | probably one. |
| 17:58.49 | Torhal | After a certain point, all of the vendors from town come up there. |
| 18:00.38 | Kraps | later in the act? |
| 18:01.24 | karl_w_w | after u kill um |
| 18:01.34 | karl_w_w | kulle i think |
| 18:12.25 | foxlit | heh, swiss accents. |
| 18:12.42 | foxlit | "You can't do anything you want, it doesn't matter how hard it is, you can't do it... you can't do it!" |
| 18:13.40 | Arrowmaster | http://imgur.com/3nGWY tis a good day |
| 18:13.59 | foxlit | I don't think that last one holds up |
| 18:14.37 | foxlit | It's not like they /won/ -- the guy offered to withdraw the lawsuit without prejudice, meaning he can sue again once the publicity goes away. |
| 18:14.47 | Arrowmaster | true |
| 18:22.08 | *** join/#wowuidev Gethe (627f05f7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.127.5.247) |
| 18:22.32 | foxlit | I wonder if the google labs sets thing is still around somewhere |
| 18:23.28 | Gnarfoz | http://googlesystem.blogspot.de/2011/08/google-sets-will-be-shut-down.html |
| 18:24.26 | Gnarfoz | too tired to do anything, too early to go to bed without fucking up my nonexistent sleep schedule |
| 18:27.16 | karl_w_w | how can I get localized "Ignite" (the fire mage mastery) out of the client? |
| 18:28.03 | foxlit | why do you need to? |
| 18:28.36 | karl_w_w | so i can find the debuff in all languages |
| 18:29.18 | foxlit | debuff spell IDs are now exposed, use those. |
| 18:29.34 | karl_w_w | you cant query by id |
| 18:30.03 | foxlit | you shouldn't poll UnitDebuff to begin with. CLEU! |
| 18:30.13 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 18:30.27 | *** join/#wowuidev MentalPower (~textual@host-70-45-199-252.onelinkpr.net) |
| 18:30.28 | *** join/#wowuidev MentalPower (~textual@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
| 18:30.28 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v MentalPower] by ChanServ |
| 18:30.28 | Gnarfoz | what if you're not in range/game when buff application happens |
| 18:30.30 | Gnarfoz | durr |
| 18:30.34 | karl_w_w | i need to know the value of ignite when it is applied not when it ticks |
| 18:30.44 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: you're presumably always in range of your own debuffs. |
| 18:30.51 | Gnarfoz | who said anything about his own |
| 18:30.58 | karl_w_w | it is my own though :P |
| 18:31.16 | Gnarfoz | (good for you, just pointing out baseless assumption ;P) |
| 18:31.18 | foxlit | karl_w_w: GetSpellInfo will give you localized spell names. |
| 18:31.35 | foxlit | but you should still use CLEU; there are also events that fire for debuff application/refresh there. |
| 18:32.00 | karl_w_w | the events that fire for application dont show you the dot value |
| 18:32.18 | Gnarfoz | ITT: aura system needs an overhaul :P |
| 18:32.45 | foxlit | meh, are we scanning tooltips now? |
| 18:32.57 | karl_w_w | nah ignite is a special case |
| 18:33.08 | karl_w_w | return 14 is the actual value |
| 18:33.09 | kd3 | wait, wha? |
| 18:33.14 | kd3 | looks at the combat log |
| 18:33.29 | kd3 | [Your] Ignite damaged [Shao-Tien Soul-Render] 8197 Fire |
| 18:33.32 | foxlit | hm, so probably not the only special case. |
| 18:40.02 | karl_w_w | could a non-mage do /dump GetSpellInfo(12654) |
| 18:40.03 | karl_w_w | pls |
| 18:43.30 | *** join/#wowuidev mitchnull (~opera@2E6B3AE7.catv.pool.telekom.hu) |
| 18:43.39 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@cpc2-craw2-0-0-cust1299.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 18:43.39 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Dev/Brykrys) |
| 18:51.19 | karl_w_w | funky |
| 18:51.29 | karl_w_w | if you play in french your keybindings change |
| 18:52.43 | mitchnull | funky, but why would you play in french? :) |
| 18:53.05 | mitchnull | can't connect to EU beta :( |
| 18:53.15 | mitchnull | is it some sort of maintenace day today? |
| 18:53.18 | karl_w_w | to test addon in another language |
| 18:53.29 | kd3 | beta's up |
| 18:54.02 | mitchnull | kd3: eu? (maklinesh or whatever server) |
| 18:54.15 | kd3 | all of the beta servers are in the same datacenter. I'm on lost isles atm |
| 18:54.31 | Fisker | so? |
| 18:55.03 | karl_w_w | oh goody, change back to english, need to download 875 mb of junk |
| 18:55.13 | Fisker | holy fucking shit Gnarfoz |
| 18:55.20 | Fisker | that google sets thing is actually useful |
| 18:55.41 | mitchnull | fisker: moo? |
| 18:55.48 | Fisker | mad mitchnull ? |
| 18:56.41 | mitchnull | not yet. wan't me to be? |
| 18:57.04 | Cairenn | Happy Independence Day to the USAsians! |
| 18:57.22 | mitchnull | ah, so that's why the curse payout is late ;) |
| 18:57.24 | Gnarfoz | do they even call it that? |
| 18:57.25 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 18:57.38 | kd3 | wha, independence day? |
| 18:57.52 | Cairenn | 4th of July |
| 18:57.56 | kd3 | yup |
| 18:58.01 | Gnarfoz | (secretly, Cairenn wishes the plot of independence day on USians!) |
| 18:58.48 | mitchnull | so, did they remove all spell-range modifying talents in MoP? |
| 18:59.00 | kd3 | afaik yes |
| 18:59.01 | Fisker | sure mitchnull |
| 18:59.06 | mitchnull | cool |
| 18:59.18 | Fisker | i thought independence day was a movie |
| 18:59.30 | mitchnull | still gotta check all the spells though for new/modified ranges :( |
| 18:59.45 | Fisker | so that's what bill pullman meant about the 4th of july being the entire worlds independence day |
| 18:59.45 | mitchnull | whole lotta work for that $500 a year ;) |
| 19:00.38 | Gnarfoz | augh this Red Hat virtualization guy has a horribly thick accent |
| 19:00.39 | Gnarfoz | :F |
| 19:00.43 | mitchnull | strawberry shortcate or whatsitscalled is tiresome... ( |
| 19:00.52 | Gnarfoz | (it's funny watching the automatic youtube subtitles struggle) |
| 19:01.00 | Fisker | mad Gnarfoz ? |
| 19:01.05 | Torhal | mitchnull: Moar AddOns, IMO. |
| 19:01.09 | Gnarfoz | no, laughing |
| 19:01.51 | mitchnull | torhal: kinda hard without an interest in the game and a running subscription ;) |
| 19:02.30 | mitchnull | torhal: but if Bazooka will be the only surviving bar addon, then I might have a chance :) |
| 19:02.59 | Gnarfoz | it probably will since it's the one closest resembling fubar ;p |
| 19:03.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Corgan (~Corgan@corgasm.org) |
| 19:03.50 | Gnarfoz | it sounds like he's having to try to not swallow his tongue while talking |
| 19:03.56 | mitchnull | gnarfoz: pff. it's clearly superior to foobar :P |
| 19:04.05 | Gnarfoz | hey, don't talk bad about my audio player. |
| 19:04.24 | mitchnull | erm, fubar even ;) |
| 19:04.47 | mitchnull | also, you should just use mpg123 |
| 19:04.55 | Gnarfoz | the fuck is that |
| 19:06.37 | mitchnull | Gnarfoz: http://www.mpg123.de/ |
| 19:07.10 | Gnarfoz | why the hell would I want to use a german cli audio player |
| 19:08.07 | mitchnull | racist |
| 19:08.33 | karl_w_w | milky way banana whip! |
| 19:08.41 | karl_w_w | hell fuckin yes where can I buy it |
| 19:10.09 | Torhal | mitchnull: I haven't played since WoTLK. |
| 19:20.45 | Stanzilla | plays with Torhal |
| 19:21.48 | *** join/#wowuidev sylvanaar (~sylvanaar@pdpc/supporter/active/sylvanaar) |
| 19:29.23 | p3lim | What function is used to determine if the target is a hunter/warlock pet? |
| 19:29.28 | p3lim | or any player-controlled pet |
| 19:30.39 | Gnarfoz | unitisplayercontrolled? |
| 19:30.41 | Gnarfoz | orsomething |
| 19:30.44 | Gnarfoz | orsomething() |
| 19:30.45 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 19:31.48 | kd3 | whee, thunder boomers |
| 19:35.02 | p3lim | Gnarfoz: fails horribly when they are not closeby |
| 19:37.57 | Elkano | not sure if you're even supposed to identify that |
| 19:38.16 | kd3 | ho... the earthworm jim collection for $7.99 |
| 19:38.30 | kd3 | http://store.steampowered.com/sub/2382/ |
| 19:41.47 | *** join/#wowuidev MentalPower (~textual@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
| 19:41.47 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v MentalPower] by ChanServ |
| 19:42.26 | Tuller | so does anyone know of a good location to test vehicles with pitch up/down buttons? |
| 19:49.15 | Kodiack | Like Ulduar? |
| 19:49.34 | Kodiack | (it's been awhile) |
| 19:50.57 | Tuller | same |
| 19:53.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Seerah (~Ryan@adsl-74-226-72-239.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 19:53.42 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Seerah] by ChanServ |
| 19:57.30 | karl_w_w | isle of conquest |
| 19:57.34 | karl_w_w | Tuller |
| 19:57.56 | karl_w_w | oh but there's no up down buttons, and there arent in ulduar either |
| 19:58.03 | karl_w_w | I'm not sure there are anywhere |
| 19:58.18 | kd3 | it'd have to be something like a turret |
| 19:58.38 | Tuller | for now, i'll assume they work since i was able to get them to show up :P |
| 19:58.44 | Tuller | with a simple or true |
| 19:59.19 | Tuller | the possess bar is the pita at the moment, since the macro state for it is gone |
| 20:12.01 | foxlit | tbh, they *need* to move more stuff into the restricted environment. |
| 20:13.01 | foxlit | continuing to use privileged code for action bar logic is kind of weak :( |
| 20:15.42 | Tuller | yep |
| 20:17.16 | foxlit | But you know what's also weak? Symbiosis! |
| 20:17.59 | foxlit | In that it exists in more states than Schrödinger's cat. |
| 20:18.40 | *** join/#wowuidev Taxipapa (18a6fa07@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.166.250.7) |
| 20:19.46 | Taxipapa | Anyone around that I can bug to get an invite to guild on wow2/lost isles/ alliance side ? - there is someone on, but they arent sure if they are allowed to invite.... |
| 20:20.07 | kd3 | sec |
| 20:20.34 | Taxipapa | ok.... no rush.... |
| 20:20.43 | kd3 | send 'kdthree' a tell |
| 20:20.51 | kd3 | heh |
| 20:21.52 | Taxipapa | well thanks anyways... ;) |
| 20:29.10 | *** join/#wowuidev MentalPower (~textual@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
| 20:29.10 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v MentalPower] by ChanServ |
| 20:33.45 | Amarande | hrm. |
| 20:33.53 | Amarande | something I'm pondering reading the raid buff list for MoP and its reactions |
| 20:34.13 | Amarande | is being a mage in LFR in MoP going to be a very good recipe for getting vote kicked for no reason having anything at all to do with how well you do in the raid? :| |
| 20:35.40 | Amarande | (and, while I've not really looked in more detail about it, are any other classes likely to be in a very similar boat?) |
| 20:37.16 | Amarande | apparently, the trouble on the horizon being seen is the buff/debuff system for MoP |
| 20:37.26 | Amarande | specifically, spell haste being the problem with everything |
| 20:37.59 | *** join/#wowuidev Kaylin (~Kaylin@c-98-203-233-187.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 20:38.51 | Amarande | is it really true that the spell haste buff is a 100% can't live without one, where if your raid fails to have it it means that you either MUST kick someone or should expect half your casters to either have to reforge/regem just for this one run (if they're tolerant and patient) or ditch you (if they're not)? |
| 20:39.04 | Amarande | that's what I've been gathering from forums |
| 20:39.15 | Amarande | that, essentially, if you cannot rely upon the spell haste buff being present you cannot gear optimally |
| 20:39.35 | Amarande | and, in fact, will very likely wind up with haste rating points that are 100% worthless if the buff is missing for a given run |
| 20:40.33 | Amarande | problem with MoP being, only three classes can provide the spell haste buff, and only *one* spec each of them, which makes it highly likely that a LFR run is going to come up missing it |
| 20:41.00 | Amarande | ... but doesn't that mean that some person or other is going to get votekicked just based on their class, with certain classes very likely to be spending more time requeuing than raiding? |
| 20:43.37 | Amarande | Mages look like they're really going to have a tough time of it, simply since they only bring two buffs (spell power and crit), one of them (crit) is likely to be already covered (hunters bring crit also, and class demographics indicate that most LFR groups probably will sport a hunter), and the other one is brought by one of the specs that also brings the spell haste buff :| |
| 20:46.24 | Amarande | Also seems to be talk that it's trying to push people to play more rogues (indeed, to the point that rogues are given a debuff that looks like it's mainly useless to themselves, which is not usually the case - typically classes bring raid buffs or debuffs that benefit their personal role as well) |
| 20:49.16 | jnwhiteh | holy hell |
| 20:49.20 | jnwhiteh | reduced level requirement is so cheating |
| 20:49.21 | jnwhiteh | i love it |
| 20:49.27 | Amarande | jnwhiteh: for? |
| 20:50.52 | jnwhiteh | weapon |
| 20:52.25 | *** join/#wowuidev Gethe (627f05f7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.127.5.247) |
| 20:52.39 | Amarande | D3, I'm guessing? |
| 20:54.53 | jnwhiteh | yeah sry |
| 20:54.53 | jnwhiteh | \ |
| 20:55.09 | Amarande | ah |
| 20:55.19 | Amarande | still have not played D3 yet |
| 20:56.31 | *** join/#wowuidev Hoegir (~unclecycl@host-69-145-24-173.gdj-co.client.bresnan.net) |
| 20:56.43 | Amarande | heh. glad I'm not European. |
| 20:56.47 | Amarande | "The World of Warcraft Wireless Mouse will be available in Q3 2012 in select retail locations for $129.99 / (Euro) 129.99." |
| 20:57.40 | foxlit | heh, the EU one is cheaper. |
| 20:57.48 | Mr_Rabies | on the other hand, you'd have a generally better quality-of-life |
| 20:57.51 | Amarande | I thought the Euro was still worth more than the USD? |
| 20:57.57 | foxlit | it is. |
| 20:58.06 | Mr_Rabies | it's about $160 USD |
| 20:58.11 | foxlit | But EUR prices generally include sales tax. |
| 20:58.15 | Mr_Rabies | 160-165 |
| 20:58.22 | Amarande | ah, that's right |
| 20:58.26 | Amarande | I quite forgot about VAT. :) |
| 20:58.41 | nevcairiel | such a US price would not include all the taxes? |
| 20:58.48 | kd3 | no |
| 20:58.49 | nevcairiel | anotehr reason i would hate to live in the US :p |
| 20:58.59 | nevcairiel | i like seeing the price i actually have to pay right away |
| 20:59.07 | Amarande | nev: yeah, but there's no national sales taxes in the US, and state taxes rarely exceed 8% |
| 20:59.54 | nevcairiel | heck unless you have business dealings, you will rarely ever see a price without the sales tax here |
| 21:00.18 | Amarande | There has been an effort in the US to add a 23% national sales tax, but so far it has failed since the measure involves certain other provisions |
| 21:00.41 | Amarande | particularly, that proposition (called the FairTax plan) is to have that tax replace all other federal taxes |
| 21:01.29 | Mr_Rabies | too many loopholes for the rich with a fair tax though, it'd be anything but |
| 21:01.47 | Mr_Rabies | compound it with income tax for people above a certain bracket and maybe |
| 21:02.02 | Amarande | Well, that's the idea, I guess |
| 21:02.08 | Amarande | The problem is it really isn't fair, since sales tax is regressive |
| 21:02.17 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 21:02.27 | Amarande | On the other hand, sales tax is one of the few taxes you really can't weasel your way out of, because you are charged it automatically everywhere you shop |
| 21:02.39 | Mr_Rabies | i'd rather we did away with income tax except for the wealthy |
| 21:02.42 | Mr_Rabies | it's such a hassle |
| 21:02.43 | Tuller | (except amazon) |
| 21:03.04 | Mr_Rabies | and had sales tax on everything, with income tax on those at the higher brackets |
| 21:03.05 | Amarande | Tuller: with a national sales tax, that would definitely change, since Washington would surely call for companies like Amazon to charge it on all U.S. residents :) |
| 21:03.13 | nevcairiel | if its a nation wide sales tax, i'm sure even amazon has to charge it :P |
| 21:03.48 | Amarande | also, apparently, the proposition is for it to only apply for new goods or services |
| 21:03.56 | Mr_Rabies | the stress and time wasted working on income tax being reduced would be a nice boost to the economy i think |
| 21:03.58 | xyphoid | i can deal with sales tax but i wish shops would set their prices to a round number after tax |
| 21:04.11 | Amarande | so used goods wouldn't be covered (I wonder though if that would end up just meaning it gets coupled with some sort of Draconian "anti-theft" law passed in order to make it as difficult as possible to legally sell used goods ... :P) |
| 21:04.21 | xyphoid | i jsut went on holiday to the US, and buying something for $1 and being charged $1.07 was lame |
| 21:04.22 | foxlit | xyphoid: shops always set their prices to round numbers. Typically ending in 99.95 |
| 21:04.50 | Mr_Rabies | unfortunately, psychology of "99" is everywhere |
| 21:04.57 | Mr_Rabies | and not doing it is hurting profits significantly |
| 21:05.04 | Amarande | some of these "anti-theft" laws are just insane, after all |
| 21:05.17 | Mr_Rabies | $19.99 is perceived as way cheaper than $20.00 |
| 21:05.44 | Mr_Rabies | generally perceived as closer to $10 than $20 |
| 21:05.51 | Amarande | Apparently in Florida for instance, there's a law about the trading in of used music CDs (doubtlessly pushed for by the RIAA to curb the sale of used rather than new music ...) where you literally need a lower standard of ID to buy a firearm than to trade in a CD. |
| 21:06.31 | Mr_Rabies | but yeah, federal income tax sucks and only the rich should be expected to deal with it |
| 21:06.39 | Mr_Rabies | since they can afford to just pay people to handle it for them |
| 21:07.07 | nevcairiel | you have to "handle" income tax? around here, our employer just pays it, and we never see the money :p |
| 21:07.14 | Amarande | nev: here it works in two stages |
| 21:07.24 | Mr_Rabies | depends on where you work |
| 21:07.35 | Amarande | first the employer performs "withholding", which is they take the money as you earn it and send it on to the IRS and state tax authority automatically each week |
| 21:07.37 | Mr_Rabies | and how your company is set up |
| 21:08.02 | Mr_Rabies | and you've gotta itemize writeoffs, etc for business expenses |
| 21:08.09 | Amarande | then during the first quarter or so of the new year, you get your W-2 income statement(s) and have to file your taxes to show how much tax you actually should have paid based on your income and deductibles for the year |
| 21:08.18 | Mr_Rabies | and it's all legal jargon that hurts my brain |
| 21:08.19 | Amarande | if you didn't pay enough, you have to remit the difference |
| 21:08.48 | Amarande | OTOH, if, as is WAY more common, you paid too much (most people working in a standard punch-clock job have way too much withholding taken), you get refunded the difference. |
| 21:08.50 | Mr_Rabies | saving everyone that headache would be such a boost |
| 21:09.54 | Amarande | and actually, there's a standard deduction that you can take instead of itemising, however, if you have many eligible deductibles you lose money by doing that |
| 21:10.00 | Ackis | i just watched all 10 minutes of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAjj3HNjCTY (NSFW0 |
| 21:10.13 | *** part/#wowuidev Seerah (~Ryan@adsl-74-226-72-239.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 21:10.25 | Mr_Rabies | i'd also be okay with taxing the hell out of the super-wealthy and having the lower and middle class not pay any taxes :v |
| 21:10.27 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: you don't go somewhere like H&R Block's site? |
| 21:10.35 | Mr_Rabies | i tried, the jargon hurt my brain |
| 21:10.44 | Amarande | they just have you key in everything that applies to you and it calculates out everything for you |
| 21:10.44 | Mr_Rabies | as such i owe a few years' worth :p |
| 21:17.43 | *** join/#wowuidev pb_ee1 (pb_ee1@89-158-95-138.rev.dartybox.com) |
| 21:22.04 | Torhal | pickles Ackis in brine. |
| 21:39.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps (~chatzilla@pool-96-238-110-196.pghkny.east.verizon.net) |
| 21:47.00 | karl_w_w | lua> function lol() a=3 b=4 return a + b end print(lol()) |
| 21:47.01 | lua_bot | karl_w_w: 7 |
| 21:47.21 | foxlit | karl_w_w: rofl! |
| 21:48.45 | karl_w_w | foxlit ? :o |
| 21:49.25 | karl_w_w | lua> string.format("%.1f", math.floor(83456.342/100 + 0.5) / 10) .. "k" |
| 21:49.25 | lua_bot | karl_w_w: 83.5k |
| 21:49.33 | foxlit | you called your trivial function lol, so I imagined something was going to be funny? |
| 21:49.40 | karl_w_w | ah ok |
| 21:49.57 | foxlit | otherwise, that's a pretty convoluted way to compute 7. |
| 21:50.03 | karl_w_w | I should have called it arghhhhh() |
| 21:50.24 | Kaylin | v |
| 21:50.43 | karl_w_w | that was the quickest way to make sure you can do that in the return, foxlit |
| 21:51.08 | foxlit | you can do anything in the return :) |
| 21:52.04 | karl_w_w | can I masturbate in the return? |
| 21:53.04 | foxlit | you should coroutine.yield() in your return, so you can return while you return. |
| 21:56.56 | karl_w_w | what's that word I'm thinking about |
| 21:57.11 | karl_w_w | intensive? |
| 21:57.17 | karl_w_w | it might be intensive |
| 22:06.39 | *** join/#wowuidev rtharper (~tomh@188-220-5-137.zone11.bethere.co.uk) |
| 22:06.39 | *** join/#wowuidev rtharper (~tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht) |
| 22:12.41 | *** join/#wowuidev BlackNet (BlackNet@unaffiliated/blacknet) |
| 22:13.10 | *** join/#wowuidev BlackNet (BlackNet@unaffiliated/blacknet) |
| 22:18.09 | mckenziemc | that's an interesting word to describe your masturbation... |
| 22:19.08 | karl_w_w | nah it was unrelated :P |
| 22:21.27 | *** join/#wowuidev rtharper (~tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht) |
| 22:27.49 | Fisker | lol Dagmar |
| 22:28.01 | Fisker | so Charles Carreon just drops the lawsuit and proclaims victory |
| 22:28.07 | Fisker | what a retarded troll |
| 22:28.21 | karl_w_w | old Fisker |
| 22:28.29 | Fisker | old karl_w_w |
| 22:28.36 | karl_w_w | i agree |
| 22:30.26 | karl_w_w | Fisker I had a spare certified copy of my driver's license, what did I do with it? |
| 22:43.43 | Ackis | I was so out of this morning sleeping on the couch, when my wife asked me for a kiss before she left for work apparently I tried to kiss the couch |
| 22:44.20 | Arrowmaster | she should have taken a pic |
| 22:50.26 | karl_w_w | she should have slathered the couch with poison! |
| 22:53.47 | Amarande | Ackis, are you staying up too late playing WoW? |
| 22:56.38 | Ackis | nein |
| 23:17.33 | *** join/#wowuidev cyndis (cyndis@2001:1bc8:1004::1) |
| 23:18.23 | *** join/#wowuidev Wa (~wa@50.45.216.44) |
| 23:18.48 | Ackis | I hope Torhal has a cisco router |
| 23:19.32 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=257649&postcount=4 |
| 23:19.36 | foxlit | those posts scare me :( |
| 23:21.11 | foxlit | it really looks like random code being thrown at a problem its author does not understand and then wondering why nothing works. |
| 23:21.39 | Amarande | foxlit: you mean something like "Why doesn't FORMAT C: make my game work?" |
| 23:22.23 | foxlit | "Is there any way I can get my toaster to cook rice?" |
| 23:22.42 | Amarande | "Why won't DOOM run on my XT?" |
| 23:22.57 | Amarande | I think that actually had to be put in the DOOM FAQ at one point heh |
| 23:28.25 | Amarande | wow 100+g for war paint anklewraps and it sold |
| 23:30.44 | Torhal | ~smackis |
| 23:30.44 | purl | ACTION smacks Ackis. |
| 23:35.31 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys_ (~adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 23:36.44 | Amarande | yay, finally remembered to actually pick up archaeology :P |
| 23:39.36 | Amarande | heh, also, apparently at level 27, a "random" dungeon isn't |
| 23:46.18 | Arrowmaster | if only this was steam instead of origin http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008GWJKE6/ |
| 23:50.33 | Arrowmaster | http://youtu.be/B2xEXWDaxX0 |
| 23:53.48 | kd3 | oh, arrow, did you watch the first ep of jinrui wa suitai shimashita? |
| 23:53.56 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 23:54.39 | Arrowmaster | should i? |
| 23:54.41 | kd3 | you should. it's fucked up, but I'm looking forward to the next ep of this as much as the first ep of rinne's s2 |
| 23:54.57 | kd3 | (high praise, a little fear) |
| 23:55.30 | Arrowmaster | i dont think i finished rinne first season |
| 23:56.56 | Arrowmaster | and there better be another season of mouretsu pirates |
| 23:57.24 | kd3 | sure hope so |
