| 00:00.04 | karl_w_w | Cairenn that's crazy |
| 00:00.17 | sylvanaar | yeah, the last 2 star treks were bad |
| 00:00.20 | Amarande | Corrodias: being able to limit the OS entirely to their Store will probably trigger another antitrust suit |
| 00:00.21 | Cairenn | StarTrek 1, 3, 5, etc were all good - 2, 4, 6, etc sucked |
| 00:00.32 | Amarande | and Valve and EA put together are far too large for them to just shrug off, to boot |
| 00:00.33 | karl_w_w | 2 sucked in your world? |
| 00:00.46 | Corrodias2 | Amarande: with a slap on the wrist, and a prompt return to the same behavior with no further repurcussions? |
| 00:00.47 | karl_w_w | 1 was good in your would?! |
| 00:00.49 | karl_w_w | world* |
| 00:01.01 | Amarande | yes, for once EA will likely be our friends, in that particular sort of scenario |
| 00:01.18 | Unkle | Star Trek: The Motion Picture was pretty rad for its time. |
| 00:01.19 | Corrodias2 | EA doesn't care about PC gaming. they'd like to see it disappear as much as anyone. |
| 00:01.26 | Cairenn | Wrath of Khan? Sucked sucked sucked! |
| 00:01.31 | Amarande | Corrodias: they just launched Origin not too long ago |
| 00:01.33 | Amarande | and Valve has Steam |
| 00:01.44 | Corrodias2 | yes, in an attempt to make money, not to foster a healthy environment |
| 00:01.47 | Amarande | both companies have major stakes in existing online program stores |
| 00:01.53 | Corrodias2 | piracy, used games, and competition from cheap, indie games that they have no control over |
| 00:02.08 | Arrowmaster | there are no used games for pcs |
| 00:02.17 | sylvanaar | that is what sucks the most |
| 00:02.22 | karl_w_w | Unkle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_The_Motion_Picture#Critical_response even critics then hated it |
| 00:02.29 | Corrodias2 | most publishers act like they hate the PC market. |
| 00:02.33 | Amarande | I've bought a few used PC games lately. Of course, they're old DOS titles from the 90s |
| 00:02.50 | Unkle | karl_w_w: Critics hate pretty much everything. I own my enthusiams, not them. |
| 00:02.56 | Corrodias2 | activision and capcom might, eventually, give you a port |
| 00:03.07 | Corrodias2 | ubisoft will give you one, but they insist on holding your hand the entire way |
| 00:03.21 | Corrodias2 | microsoft would infect it with GFWL, and sony won't even talk to you |
| 00:03.58 | Amarande | well, Sony won't even talk to you because a "port" from PlayStation platforms would pretty much be "we have to rewrite most of the engine from scratch due to the platform differences" |
| 00:04.02 | karl_w_w | Unkle: but your opinion doesn't make a film good :P |
| 00:04.14 | Amarande | even BETWEEN PlayStation platforms is essentially that |
| 00:04.23 | Corrodias2 | Amarande: and yet people do that. publishers who aren't Sony do it. |
| 00:04.38 | sylvanaar | if you buy a wired xbox controller for your pc, the ports become less bad |
| 00:04.38 | Unkle | It had an interesting premise and characters I loved. For a 70s SF film, it'll have to do. |
| 00:04.45 | Amarande | the reason that they dropped PS2 compatibility from the PS3 had partly to do with pushing people to adopt PS3 games and leave behind the PS2 altogether, certainly |
| 00:04.47 | karl_w_w | 1 is generally considered terrible, and 2 generally considered good |
| 00:04.55 | Corrodias2 | i think they'd rather see Metro take over, so it either kills the market or brings it under the iron grip of Microsoft, and then everyone would live in the happy world of XBLA and PSN. |
| 00:04.56 | karl_w_w | Unkle: it was also slower than tar |
| 00:04.58 | Amarande | however, it's also that the PS2 platform is apparently a nightmare to emulate |
| 00:05.03 | Unkle | I don't mind that. |
| 00:05.07 | Kraps | "Upon entering one of my games, the loading screen tip suggested that I "share the wealth!" This is a well known communist slogan. As a successful corporation that got where it is today through capitalism, I don't understand why Blizzard is encouraging it's players (most of whom are quite young and impressionable) to become socialists. It seems like a load of hypocrisy to me." |
| 00:05.10 | Amarande | with the result that basically "PS2 backwards compatibility" amounted to "we had to include a PS2 inside the PS3 under the hood" |
| 00:05.18 | Unkle | For example, I've sat through all the 2001 and sequels. |
| 00:05.27 | Corrodias2 | they had to put an expensive chip in it. i don't see what this has to do with the current discussion, though. |
| 00:05.35 | Amarande | Unkle, did 2010 and 2061 actually come out as movies? |
| 00:05.37 | Unkle | And I voluntarily rewatched Bravehart. |
| 00:05.48 | Unkle | 2001 and 2010 did. |
| 00:05.57 | Amarande | I remember 2001, which I finally managed to watch once without falling asleep during it |
| 00:06.02 | Amarande | I blame the music team |
| 00:06.04 | Unkle | 2010: The Year We Make Contact |
| 00:06.20 | Amarande | The movie itself was pretty good, classic Kubrick, but the damn soundtrack was way too soporific |
| 00:07.04 | Unkle | BUM BUM BUM BUM BUM BUM BUM - TAAAAA DAH! |
| 00:07.16 | Amarande | Yes, the "TAH DAH" is there to wake you up every now and then. :) |
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| 00:08.13 | sylvanaar | 2001 is mostly classical music and camera shots with nothing moving |
| 00:08.24 | Amarande | Corrodias: the bit about the expensive chip was to underscore the difficulties posed by platform differences |
| 00:08.34 | Amarande | and, especially, about how different each Sony platform is from every other, even other Sony ones |
| 00:08.36 | Unkle | All these worlds are yours, save Io. |
| 00:08.47 | sylvanaar | Europa |
| 00:08.51 | Corrodias2 | i ask you, so what? |
| 00:08.56 | sylvanaar | and that was 2010 |
| 00:09.44 | sylvanaar | but really, jupiter becomes a sun without adding another 20 more jupiters into that spot. |
| 00:10.29 | Unkle | It's been a while since I saw it or read the novel. |
| 00:10.37 | Amarande | sylvanaar: more like 80 Jupiter masses are required to produce a full-scale star, IIRC |
| 00:11.23 | sylvanaar | yeah maybe 100 for just a brown dwarf even |
| 00:11.31 | karl_w_w | jupiter would suck as a star |
| 00:11.54 | Amarande | the smallest a star can be and ignite hydrogen is about 0.08 solar mass, Jupiter is about 0.001 solar mass |
| 00:12.20 | Amarande | things smaller than 0.08 can fuse their deuterium and their lithium but don't reach hydrogen ignition |
| 00:12.44 | Amarande | (this is also one of the reasons why lithium, as well as beryllium and boron, are insanely rare in the universe as a whole) |
| 00:13.07 | sylvanaar | yes 1 2 4 |
| 00:14.06 | sylvanaar | thats what metro reminds me of |
| 00:15.30 | foxlit | ffs, the greeting elite pack for this dungeon keeps insisting on being soul rippers. I've now restarted the game thrice :( |
| 00:16.14 | Amarande | it feeds on your tears, foxlit |
| 00:17.03 | Amarande | speaking of stars, do you think we're going to get to see anything famous like Eta Carinae or Betelgeuse go supernova during our lifetime? |
| 00:17.25 | Corrodias2 | "our", as in, humanity's? |
| 00:18.11 | Corrodias2 | if you mean yours, unless they're clearly showing signs of being about to nova at any time right now, i wouldn't hold your breath |
| 00:18.47 | sylvanaar | how long does it take to actually explode? a week. a month? |
| 00:19.40 | sylvanaar | things at that scale never seem to be in that much of a hurry |
| 00:19.49 | Dagmar | If it got started now, in another 50 years it would be big |
| 00:19.56 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 00:20.44 | Dagmar | If you want a big "bang" you have to wrap it in dry newsprint first. ;) |
| 00:23.08 | Unkle | Any nova you can see "now" already happened a fairly long time ago. :P |
| 00:26.14 | sylvanaar | time at that scale has almost no meaning |
| 00:27.07 | Amarande | sylvanaar: core-collapse supernovae themselves are rather rapid events |
| 00:27.19 | Amarande | the dispersion of the remnant afterwards is a slow process, as is the decline of light among them |
| 00:27.31 | karl_w_w | but you can see them coming thousands of years away right? |
| 00:27.33 | karl_w_w | so no |
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| 00:27.47 | sylvanaar | ok so like 80-90% speed of light? |
| 00:27.52 | sylvanaar | that fast? |
| 00:28.06 | Amarande | karl: actually, supernovae generally occurred hundreds to thousands of years before we see them |
| 00:28.08 | Amarande | this is a good thing. |
| 00:29.00 | Amarande | there's still IIRC speculation on whether Betelgeuse for instance is close enough that when it has gone supernova and it becomes observable on Earth, Earth will receive a dose of radiation large enough to have non-trivial significance |
| 00:29.39 | karl_w_w | Amarande: obviously |
| 00:29.50 | karl_w_w | not sure how that's relevant |
| 00:30.27 | Amarande | the main thing about predicting them is that science is not at present all that good at figuring out exactly how far along a massive star is in its fusion cycles |
| 00:30.27 | karl_w_w | it's not you can say "oh it happened a million years ago so I don't need to predict it" |
| 00:30.53 | Amarande | if it's become a supergiant, it's stopped fusing hydrogen, but where on the helium to silicon fusion cycles it is is much more difficult to determine with any level of confidence |
| 00:31.06 | sylvanaar | i read somwhere that when a black hole forms it shoots jets of radiation in 2 straight lines with enough radiation to kill anything in its path until the end of the universe |
| 00:31.26 | sylvanaar | gamma rays or something |
| 00:32.11 | Amarande | Gamma-ray bursts |
| 00:32.46 | Amarande | Those are caused by hypernovae, direct-black-hole collapse scenarios of stars with a minimum of something like 30 to 40 solar masses |
| 00:33.00 | Amarande | and a maximum, apparently, of around 140 solar masses |
| 00:33.26 | Amarande | above 140 (and apparently particular elemental compositions are required for stars to be at this mass level, due to the Eddington limit), very strange things happen |
| 00:34.14 | Amarande | things which have only very recently had observational candidates, although the theory behind it was thought of some time ago |
| 00:34.59 | Amarande | but yeah, if Earth ends up in the direct path of a GRB that can easily result in a mass extinction |
| 00:35.19 | sylvanaar | if the stars align |
| 00:35.36 | Amarande | indeed. "the stars are right" is actually the case there, because the star's pole has to be pointing at us at collapse |
| 00:36.31 | Amarande | apparently, the above 140 solar mass scenario results in a pair-instability supernova, which leaves behind no neutron star, no black hole, no nothing, actually |
| 00:36.40 | Amarande | it is a complete disruption of the star without remnant |
| 00:37.03 | sylvanaar | just poof, gone |
| 00:37.08 | Amarande | yup pretty much |
| 00:37.27 | Amarande | it has something to do with the core heat reaching a level where electron-positron pairs are formed and annihilate rapidly enough |
| 00:38.17 | Amarande | at 140+ solar masses, this process goes wild so rapidly as to completely blow apart the core without there being time for a black hole collapse |
| 00:38.50 | sylvanaar | ah, so rage-quit |
| 00:38.52 | Amarande | at least, up till 260 solar masses or so where it's said that direct black hole collapse occurs again, although to my knowledge only one star in this mass range is known |
| 00:39.39 | Amarande | and it's anyone's guess as to what will happen when it goes ... given that only one star has been observed in that mass range, it may not supernova during the lifetime of present generations |
| 00:41.03 | karl_w_w | "may not" :P |
| 00:41.30 | karl_w_w | when you consider the lifespan of a star and the lifespan of a human, the probability is not exactly high |
| 00:41.40 | Amarande | karl: yeah, only the last few iterations of the core fusion cycle occur in short enough timespans for a human lifespan to observe |
| 00:41.41 | sylvanaar | the bigger they are the faster they go |
| 00:42.03 | Amarande | however, except for the hydrogen to helium fusion transition, in which the star first becomes a supergiant, it's hard to tell observationally just what the core is fusing |
| 00:43.09 | Amarande | Eta Carinae, for instance, some people say we're already right on the verge of seeing go, while others say we still have some thousands of years left before that |
| 00:43.44 | Amarande | And nobody knew how far Sanduleak -69 202a was in its evolution until SN1987A showed up |
| 00:45.35 | Amarande | ahhh, stars. such interesting entities. :) |
| 00:53.37 | karl_w_w | it's gravity that's interesting, stars are just a side-effect : |
| 00:53.40 | karl_w_w | :P |
| 00:54.22 | sylvanaar | chicken and egg |
| 00:54.39 | karl_w_w | are you suggesting that stars create gravity? :P |
| 00:55.34 | sylvanaar | how else does it get there |
| 00:57.12 | karl_w_w | nobody knows |
| 00:57.20 | karl_w_w | gravitons are theorized |
| 00:58.01 | sylvanaar | higgs field |
| 01:04.09 | sylvanaar | you know recently i took a picture with my camera, and it was completely black when i looked at it. but when i turned the levels up there was actually a color picture there, albeit with a lot of digital noise |
| 01:08.29 | Amarande | hrm. |
| 01:08.40 | Amarande | seriously, the Northern Barrens is a beta zone for xrealm. |
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| 01:08.50 | Amarande | if there's one zone that maybe *shouldn't* be cross-realm, it's that. :S |
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| 01:09.58 | Amarande | does not think it will be of particular fun for people to have to go back to the olden days of often having to wait till late night to turn in quests on their low level horde toons due to endless "The Crossroads is under attack!", heh |
| 01:10.40 | sylvanaar | do you even have to level up now, dont you get instant 80's |
| 01:12.55 | Amarande | LOL, not really instant 80s :P |
| 01:13.09 | TMc51 | close enough though |
| 01:13.11 | Amarande | although the leveling pace especially up to 60 or so is a lot brisker than it was pre cata |
| 01:13.32 | Amarande | indeed, to the point where even the highest level quests in a zone tend to be green by the time you finish questing it |
| 01:16.03 | Amarande | also to the point where the first character I leveled through the new cata Azeroth never saw Kalimdor at all from about 30-60 (and what she did see of Kalimdor was in pre-cata days) |
| 01:16.20 | sylvanaar | there are just so many zones now |
| 01:16.36 | Amarande | which, mind you, is something I find to be quite convenient |
| 01:16.50 | Amarande | you no longer need to keep continent hopping in order to level at high efficiency via questing |
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| 01:17.10 | TMc51 | Better to have 2 zones for each level range with one on each continent than having to switch continents every other level, at least. |
| 01:17.24 | Amarande | (granted some of it was LFD, but I actually LFD'd fairly little pre 60 on Variandra, except to do each dungeon once for the quests) |
| 01:17.46 | Amarande | Actually there's multiple zones per level range on each continent, ultimately |
| 01:17.59 | Amarande | as I remember, for instance, I never saw Badlands at all |
| 01:18.09 | kd3 | a handy table listing zone levels: http://www.wowpedia.org/Category:Zone_storylines |
| 01:18.26 | Amarande | after I finished EPL, my level indicated it was time to go to the Blackrock Mountain areas, then Swamp of Sorrows and Blasted Lands |
| 01:18.38 | sylvanaar | can you still just lfg all the way to max level? |
| 01:18.54 | Amarande | oh, yeah. that I liked too. There's a much better flow between Azeroth and Outland now. |
| 01:19.00 | foxlit | sylvanaar: I don't see why not. |
| 01:19.06 | foxlit | XP is XP. |
| 01:19.17 | Amarande | It used to be that you leveled to 60 give or take a couple of levels and then you went to the Dark Portal to go to Outland. |
| 01:19.46 | Amarande | However, apart from it being the thing to do level-wise and the Dark Portal happening to be there, there was never really anything much in terms of the natural quest flow to encourage you to *go* to the Blasted Lands. |
| 01:20.03 | sylvanaar | that demon quest |
| 01:20.04 | Amarande | Now the natural quest flow as you level in Eastern Kingdoms eventually leads you to the Blasted Lands at the time that you're going to want to hit the Dark Portal. |
| 01:20.12 | sylvanaar | that was awesome at 60 |
| 01:20.33 | sylvanaar | but now people can fly up to where he is |
| 01:21.24 | sylvanaar | i think i still have the item from that quest - the bag |
| 01:21.27 | Amarande | which one? |
| 01:21.54 | sylvanaar | you had to go all over the world and do like 10 things, then kill a demon in the center of blasted lands |
| 01:21.59 | Amarande | In fact, if anything, the Blasted Lands used to be a place that the game practically didn't steer you towards at all for the most part |
| 01:22.14 | Amarande | There were barely any quests there at all, especially Horde side |
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| 01:22.41 | Amarande | As for Badlands, actually I think I ended up skipping it for two reasons |
| 01:22.43 | sylvanaar | well kazzak used to be there. and that big dragon |
| 01:23.00 | Amarande | The first was that I was already high enough level after finishing EPL to hit Searing Gorge |
| 01:23.08 | Amarande | the other one was that I seem to remember I may have *tried* to go to Badlands |
| 01:23.22 | Amarande | except that was in pre-Cata 4.0.3a |
| 01:23.24 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:You_Are_Rakh%27likh,_Demon |
| 01:23.30 | sylvanaar | that was the shit at level 60 |
| 01:23.45 | Amarande | and apparently, there was a *massive* bug when it came to starting Badlands in 4.0.3a before Cata actually came out |
| 01:24.06 | sylvanaar | it was one of the few quests you bothered completing after you leveled |
| 01:24.09 | Amarande | making it in fact actually fairly irritating to reach the zone at the level that you were meant to do it as I seem to remember |
| 01:24.32 | Amarande | the problem: you start Badlands' quest lines at the eastern side of the zone, opposite the natural entry into the zone |
| 01:24.46 | Amarande | in order to get there, you're supposed to take some sort of rocket I think it was from EPL |
| 01:25.10 | Amarande | however, before Cata's actual release, Blizzard ran a very tight ship when it came to people trying to sneak into the Cata zones early |
| 01:25.47 | Amarande | and the rocket's flight path crossed over TwiHi ... with the result that people trying to start Badlands ended up being NMLed by the security system before the rocket was able to drop you off where you were supposed to go |
| 01:26.15 | Amarande | "oops, you're in TwiHi, you are not authorised to be here before the expansion content is sold, BYE!" |
| 01:27.26 | Amarande | granted, I'm guessing a lot of the cata release woes are something that we won't see again for several expansions if ever |
| 01:27.53 | Amarande | there's no more sealed off NMLs in Kalimdor or the Eastern Kingdoms |
| 01:28.08 | Amarande | and the PvP points system has finally settled nice and comfy into the game rules |
| 01:28.53 | sylvanaar | i think i might play wow again someday. i pay for a subscription every month, but never seem to log in |
| 01:29.04 | Amarande | heh, you should play the game then |
| 01:29.42 | Amarande | maybe pay a visit to the Blade's Edge Mountains as Alliance? :) |
| 01:30.45 | sylvanaar | why does the D3 launcher tell you to buy D3, but not the WOW launcher |
| 01:34.27 | Amarande | *shrug* |
| 01:35.10 | sylvanaar | i mean, i already bought D3. The wow launcher tells me to invite friends to play wow. |
| 01:35.39 | Kaylin | recruit a friend and get a mount oh my god mounts you know they're worth 25 bucks it's a goddamn rocket holy hell. |
| 01:35.59 | sylvanaar | and your friend gets instant level 80 still right? |
| 01:36.03 | foxlit | 6:00 p.m. PDT (6/19) to 4:00 a.m. PDT (6/20) |
| 01:36.09 | foxlit | isn't that kind of long? |
| 01:36.59 | Amarande | foxlit: extended maintenance? |
| 01:37.43 | sylvanaar | "Character boosted to level 80 - limited time offer" |
| 01:51.09 | sintAcks | "To reactivate your Diablo III account, and add the Tyrael's Charger mount back to your World of Warcraft account, please contact Customer Support." |
| 01:51.10 | sintAcks | :| |
| 01:56.44 | Adys | jnwhiteh: you wanted something like this |
| 01:56.45 | Adys | http://www.diabloahguide.com/2012/06/14/whats-my-item-worth-a-guide-to-item-value/ |
| 02:01.16 | foxlit | 818 one-hander? <100k. |
| 02:03.07 | Amarande | Heh, gold being actually worth something in Diablo: something that hasn't been the case since perhaps D1. :) |
| 02:06.04 | Amarande | In D2, the stuff was absolutely useless pretty much except for paying your repair bill, and you could get enough easily just from picking up wands off the ground on hell |
| 02:06.16 | Kaylin | meh you could gamble, esp in classic |
| 02:06.21 | Sintacks | I loved wands in D2 |
| 02:06.22 | Kaylin | but yea pretty worthless |
| 02:06.22 | Amarande | well, yeah, and gambling |
| 02:06.23 | Sintacks | so much gold |
| 02:06.31 | Sintacks | and staffs |
| 02:06.56 | Amarande | although for the most part I used gambling to get blue magic amulets and rings for crafting |
| 02:07.10 | Amarande | occasionally gloves or boots or the like for the same, if the RNG wasn't being friendly |
| 02:09.02 | Amarande | and occasionally I would gamble for circlets, but not too often |
| 02:11.22 | Sintacks | i forgot how to launch D2 in windowed mode |
| 02:11.30 | Kaylin | -w |
| 02:11.38 | Kaylin | on the target path, outside the double quotes |
| 02:11.52 | Kaylin | "C:\Program Files (x86)\Diablo II\Diablo II.exe" -ns -skiptobnet -3dfx -w -nofixaspect |
| 02:11.53 | Kaylin | like that |
| 02:12.03 | Kaylin | right click shortcut --> properties |
| 02:12.10 | Kaylin | hopefully I haven't confused you to death |
| 02:12.11 | Sintacks | dafuq is -skiptobnet o; |
| 02:12.39 | Kaylin | automatically select battle.net on your default gateway and connect, you still need to enter your password but yea |
| 02:13.04 | Sintacks | what's the -ns |
| 02:13.09 | Kaylin | nosounds |
| 02:13.13 | Sintacks | ew |
| 02:13.27 | Sintacks | and -nofixaspect? |
| 02:13.44 | Kaylin | aspect ratio can stretch to fill the screen instead of being 4:3 |
| 02:14.06 | Sintacks | oh god D2 is so small |
| 02:14.25 | Sintacks | i could fit 5 of them (if i broke one in half) on a monitor... |
| 02:14.59 | Sintacks | how dafuq is my amazon 94 |
| 02:15.08 | Sintacks | oh.. this is the "lol i cheated" save |
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| 02:18.15 | Amarande | I have never managed to get a character above level 91 in D2 before getting bored of the grind that the last ten levels entail |
| 02:18.26 | Adys | kripparian attempting act 4 hardcore inferno on stream in a minute |
| 02:18.38 | Adys | http://www.twitch.tv/nl_kripp/ |
| 02:20.26 | Amarande | Adys: is this world first? |
| 02:20.35 | Adys | yeah |
| 02:20.39 | Adys | at least afaik |
| 02:21.29 | Adys | iskatu down |
| 02:24.23 | Kraps | haha |
| 02:24.33 | Kraps | spectacular |
| 02:25.27 | Sintacks | what's the point of covering chat ifyou don't cover bnet toasts |
| 02:25.48 | Sintacks | holy fucking attack speed batman |
| 02:25.58 | Kraps | what is it |
| 02:26.10 | kd3 | freaking fast, whatever it is |
| 02:26.15 | Sintacks | faster than the animation can handle |
| 02:26.23 | Adys | Sintacks: hes not covering chat |
| 02:26.26 | kd3 | and, gah. I've died more in the past 30 minutes in this daily quest area than I have in weeks |
| 02:26.28 | Adys | its just twitch |
| 02:26.31 | Kraps | why is he doing the clickclickclick thing |
| 02:26.34 | kd3 | freaking d/cs/crashes |
| 02:26.57 | Adys | also rofl |
| 02:27.04 | Adys | re: pop culture references in d3 |
| 02:27.19 | Adys | "The lore's writing style is a nice tribute to Twilight." |
| 02:27.45 | kd3 | o_o |
| 02:28.12 | Kraps | what |
| 02:28.24 | Kraps | also how do you kite like that |
| 02:28.31 | Adys | kite what? |
| 02:28.43 | Kraps | i cant get away from stuff ever |
| 02:28.43 | Adys | oh |
| 02:28.49 | Adys | he's using a charm spec |
| 02:29.01 | Adys | actually no, hes not atm |
| 02:29.08 | Amarande | so, regarding that Act II and III gear thing from earlier |
| 02:29.22 | Amarande | did they actually make it impossible atm to finish Inferno without making use of the auction house? |
| 02:29.24 | Kraps | freaking op enchantress |
| 02:31.48 | Adys | if he makes it to diablo ill be impressed |
| 02:31.57 | Adys | act 4 is a fuckfest of oneshots |
| 02:32.00 | Sintacks | 27m gold in hardcore... the fuck |
| 02:32.04 | Kraps | he could wait till thursday :D |
| 02:32.12 | Corrodias2 | Amarande: who would sell the items? Blizzard? are they selling items, too? |
| 02:32.18 | Adys | the whole point is to do it before the nerf Kraps |
| 02:32.41 | Amarande | Corrodias: there was talk earlier that they might have had a bit of rebalancing such that some people made it to A3 easier than it is now |
| 02:32.47 | Kraps | he really had no champs? |
| 02:32.56 | Amarande | so now most mortals will need the gear sold by the people who already made it to A3 in order to reach it themselves |
| 02:32.59 | Adys | Kraps: not before rakanoth but thats not uncommon |
| 02:33.00 | Amarande | or so I read it as, anyway |
| 02:33.11 | Corrodias2 | a plausible hypothesis |
| 02:33.23 | Amarande | also, W is an action bar hotkey |
| 02:33.31 | Amarande | I'm guessing that means you move in D3 by mouse clicking, like in D2? |
| 02:33.34 | Adys | its rebound |
| 02:33.37 | Adys | but yes |
| 02:33.50 | Adys | they're 1234 by default |
| 02:34.11 | Adys | i actually quite like the d3 cast style |
| 02:34.21 | Kraps | you dond have to "click" though, you can hold the button |
| 02:34.23 | Adys | really miss d2's skillswitches though |
| 02:34.38 | Adys | Kraps: holding button is extremely dangerous |
| 02:34.44 | Sintacks | me too, Adys |
| 02:39.12 | Adys | Rakanoth coming up |
| 02:42.35 | Adys | down |
| 02:43.06 | Kaylin | idk how d3 works but in d2 it didn't send a command for each attack, there is a start attacking and a stop attacking on mouse up, holding buttons allowed you to kill stuff through lag which was great. |
| 02:44.03 | Amarande | wow. it takes a significant amount of time to TP in D3 |
| 02:45.12 | Amarande | no more emergency exits in a sticky situation like in D2? |
| 02:45.40 | Adys | Amarande: yeah, but no more scrolls either |
| 02:46.14 | Kaylin | esc --> up arrow --> enter |
| 02:46.15 | Amarande | dying (in SC) still gold and XP penalty? |
| 02:46.16 | Adys | you also cant tp in boss rooms |
| 02:46.22 | Amarande | or item durability like in WoW? |
| 02:46.29 | Adys | just durability |
| 02:48.04 | Amarande | and wow, OP enchantress |
| 02:48.16 | Amarande | I remember reading before D3 came out that the merc equivalents were supposed to be really weak this time around |
| 02:48.22 | Amarande | if anything it looks like they're even stronger than D2's |
| 02:48.28 | Adys | eh |
| 02:48.33 | Adys | i dont remember them in d2 |
| 02:48.39 | Kaylin | in LoD they were very strong |
| 02:48.51 | Kaylin | mine can solo hell ancients and with a quick weapon swap baal too. |
| 02:48.55 | Amarande | though I'm guessing this guy probably also put a substantial amount of his paycheck the last couple weeks towards RMAH purchases in order to stay geared towards world first? |
| 02:49.08 | Adys | no |
| 02:49.13 | Adys | theres no rmah in hardcore |
| 02:49.38 | Amarande | ah |
| 02:49.41 | Adys | and even if there were, he's one of the very few who has access to the actual best gear in hc-na atm |
| 02:49.49 | Adys | very few people have act3 inferno |
| 02:49.52 | Amarande | he does seem to make everything look easy |
| 02:50.00 | Amarande | then again, videos often do |
| 02:50.11 | Amarande | like this one video I saw of a hunter soloing Atramedes |
| 02:50.30 | Adys | the difficulty in inferno is disappointing in many ways |
| 02:50.34 | Adys | but it is hard not to die |
| 02:50.39 | Amarande | And speaking of hunter epic win, I remember how well I did on Moirean back in 2010 ... why do people look down on hunters again, exactly? LOL |
| 02:50.45 | karl_w_w | that video of a hunter soloing atra looked easy to you? |
| 02:50.56 | Kaylin | anyone want to do 2000 baal runs on escnl |
| 02:51.00 | Kaylin | I wanna hit 98 |
| 02:51.14 | Adys | Amarande: you have to understand what hes doing in there and why, too, though |
| 02:51.35 | Adys | Amarande: he's charming the mobs with a weapon throw proc so that they hit each other and kill themselves for him |
| 02:51.47 | Kaylin | does he get xp for that? |
| 02:51.50 | Amarande | and here's an ad for bing that pushes ... well, basically the sort of stuff google already has, heh |
| 02:51.55 | Adys | what xp? |
| 02:51.58 | Adys | this is inferno |
| 02:52.01 | Kaylin | oh right |
| 02:52.19 | Amarande | is leveling xp better balanced in D3, too, than the horribly slow leveling in endgame in D2? |
| 02:52.20 | Kraps | is he still going to play? |
| 02:52.28 | Adys | Amarande: yes, its tuned a lot like wow |
| 02:52.48 | Adys | endgame is disappointing though |
| 02:52.59 | Adys | the inferno nerf makes no sense without further balance |
| 02:53.23 | Amarande | see, I haven't actually played D3 yet |
| 02:53.26 | Adys | inferno is out of whack, but they need to provide hard content |
| 02:53.26 | Amarande | probably won't till late this year |
| 02:53.37 | Amarande | as I'm seeking not to buy anything too expensive now till after Dragon Con |
| 02:54.16 | Adys | buying and farming d3 at launch wouldve been cheaper |
| 02:54.25 | Adys | i dont know how long the rmah is going to be nice still |
| 02:54.44 | Amarande | I ... don't really plan on using the RMAH |
| 02:54.49 | Amarande | except maybe to sell stuff every now and then |
| 02:54.56 | Adys | thats my point |
| 02:55.16 | Adys | its cheaper to buy d3 and sell shit on the rmah than buy it on sale and be unable to sell anything |
| 02:55.32 | Amarande | ehh, people still RMT in D2 |
| 02:55.35 | Amarande | and that's been out for what, ten years? |
| 02:55.48 | Adys | theres a ladder and a regular reset in d2. |
| 02:56.00 | Amarande | people did so regularly in 1.09, as well |
| 02:56.01 | Adys | and the item balance isnt the same |
| 02:56.14 | Amarande | when they barely ever reset ladder, and ladder and non-ladder weren't distinct economies |
| 02:56.26 | Amarande | in fact, before they did the ladder season system was actually the heyday of RMT in D2 |
| 02:57.09 | Adys | after the patch, not only do acts 2/3/4 get nerfed, but ilvl 63 drops (highest) drop in act 1 |
| 02:57.34 | karl_w_w | any news on when that patch is? |
| 02:57.36 | Amarande | am still trying to figure out which class this is, having not played the actual game |
| 02:57.41 | Adys | karl_w_w: in a few hours |
| 02:57.46 | karl_w_w | hot |
| 02:57.51 | Amarande | Adys: sounds like similar to how D2 changed with 1.10 |
| 02:57.58 | karl_w_w | maybe I'll actually play tomorrow |
| 02:58.00 | Adys | Amarande: this is barbarian |
| 02:58.06 | Amarande | in 1.09, you had to mostly run places in Act 4 and 5 on hell to get the top end gear |
| 02:58.08 | Adys | you didnt see the leaps? |
| 02:58.16 | Amarande | in 1.10, they put top level areas in every act |
| 02:58.22 | Adys | yes i remember |
| 02:58.47 | Adys | its very different though |
| 02:58.51 | Kraps | is the stream guy still going to play? |
| 02:58.51 | Amarande | which was really a good idea though, since reaching act 4 is one of the hardest things to do on hell in D2 |
| 02:59.08 | Adys | er |
| 02:59.14 | Adys | by loose definition of hard |
| 02:59.28 | Amarande | Travincal and Durance are two of the tougher spots, certainly |
| 02:59.32 | Adys | d2 had no endgame |
| 02:59.51 | Amarande | Council melts the faces of many characters with consummate ease, and OMG STUPID DOLLS |
| 02:59.52 | Adys | once you were lvl 80 something you could strutt through the entire game |
| 03:00.33 | Kraps | the devs did say on reddit something about eventually adding an endless mode |
| 03:00.36 | Amarande | in fact, for instance, most traditionally built Sorcs in D2 actually can't finish Hell without either help or an *extremely* high end polearm for their merc |
| 03:00.38 | Kraps | i think |
| 03:01.14 | Amarande | (something of the sort that should be in miniscule numbers per entire realm, considering it's ladder only, if there were no bots and dupes) |
| 03:01.15 | Kraps | or whatever the equivalent D2 thing was |
| 03:01.34 | Amarande | because they use fire/cold builds, and only cold/lightning can pass Council unaided |
| 03:01.42 | Amarande | (I, of course, always played cold/lightning) |
| 03:02.10 | Adys | i dont remember issues on my cold sorc |
| 03:02.23 | Amarande | Adys: Toorc was always immune to both fire and cold, and Geleb was always immune to both fire and lightning |
| 03:02.28 | Adys | and my only other serious char was my javazon |
| 03:02.33 | Amarande | while Ismail always had a fixed fire immunity and luck of the draw for any other one |
| 03:02.49 | Adys | yeah i remember something like that |
| 03:02.53 | Amarande | which meant that 1) cold/lightning was the only two-element sorc build that could get past that point unaided, and 2) it ALWAYS could do so |
| 03:03.01 | Amarande | as triple immunities were not allowed |
| 03:03.25 | Amarande | I also just <3 how Chain Lightning can hit enemies before they even know you're there |
| 03:07.26 | Amarande | "Choose a passive skill list" ... I see Nerves of Steel listed |
| 03:07.37 | Amarande | Do you really need to equip that? If you're doing Inferno on Hardcore you have to already have them. :D |
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| 03:23.32 | Amarande | wb |
| 03:23.37 | Adys | thanks |
| 03:23.51 | Amarande | am I also completely right to not be at all surprised that this world first attempt is on a Barb? |
| 03:24.02 | Adys | well |
| 03:24.09 | Adys | melees are a weird lot |
| 03:24.10 | Kraps | dammit i dies to the moltens afterbomb |
| 03:24.11 | Amarande | (it seems that in D2 that was often the case as well, especially the "first to 99" stuff often has been) |
| 03:24.15 | Kraps | died |
| 03:24.34 | Adys | the thing with barbs/monks is they're very gear dependent |
| 03:24.40 | Adys | but with good gear they're insane |
| 03:25.09 | Amarande | I see Charm is also a lot more useful than in D2 |
| 03:25.24 | Amarande | although in D2, it was really plagued for a very long time by one of the game's crueler bugs, on top of everything else |
| 03:25.28 | Kraps | yeah? i though the "general consensus" was that they are harder to play then ranged at high levels |
| 03:25.50 | Adys | Kraps: they are in inferno because you arrive in inferno way underpowered |
| 03:26.00 | Adys | and it takes a lot more than wiz/dh to get good gear |
| 03:26.33 | Kraps | but then i read that ranged is harder because of almost no mitigation/avoidence |
| 03:26.56 | Adys | Kraps: it depends |
| 03:27.11 | Adys | with the same gear, ranged can be just as insane |
| 03:27.48 | Adys | with my current gear i can pop archon in act 3 |
| 03:28.02 | Adys | which makes it a fuckfest |
| 03:28.17 | Amarande | btw, exactly what was this "endless mode" I heard mentioned? |
| 03:28.36 | Adys | eh? |
| 03:28.40 | Adys | when/where? |
| 03:28.40 | Amarande | I've never heard of "endless mode" in the games ... once you finish all the difficulties, all you have left on that character is farming the acts over and over again for stuff to trade |
| 03:28.46 | Adys | oh right |
| 03:28.54 | Adys | that was some popular player proposal that made the AMAA |
| 03:29.11 | Adys | no quest, just the mobs and bosses |
| 03:29.28 | Adys | so that you can clear the act or part of the act without having to progress through it |
| 03:29.56 | Amarande | [23:00] <Kraps> the devs did say on reddit something about eventually adding an endless mode |
| 03:30.03 | Adys | no they didnt |
| 03:30.10 | Adys | they said they werent enthusiastic |
| 03:30.13 | Adys | about the idea |
| 03:30.47 | Kraps | awww |
| 03:32.22 | Adys | alright im tempted to stay up for the stream, but im falling asleep |
| 03:32.26 | Adys | will watch the rest tomorrow |
| 03:32.27 | Adys | night |
| 03:34.30 | Arrowmaster | ~weather kday |
| 03:34.48 | Amarande | ~weather kdxr |
| 03:34.54 | Amarande | hm. |
| 03:35.24 | mckenziemc | >.> |
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| 03:40.52 | Arrowmaster | just saw an Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter commercial on tv and realized Timur Bekmambetov directed it, i wonder whatever happened to the plans to do a Twilight Watch movie |
| 03:45.24 | Amarande | I wonder if it's a marketing/timing matter perhaps |
| 03:45.56 | Amarande | maybe they want to wait another year or three so people won't see the word Twilight and associate with something completely different, which would most surely not assist them in selling the movie? |
| 03:46.38 | Amarande | heh, and speaking of Twilight ... I still always find it a little amusing that the Twilight Tome in WoW makes you feel a little clumsy in the flavour text ... but ... gives a haste buff. :) |
| 03:46.43 | Arrowmaster | well it could be translated as either Twilight Watch or Dusk Watch |
| 03:46.59 | Amarande | or rather, grants haste rating |
| 03:47.13 | Amarande | but I wouldn't expect a large and heavy tome described as making you feel a little clumsy to give haste rating :) |
| 03:48.19 | Arrowmaster | Night Watch came out in 2004, Day Watch in 2006, then it seems he got hollywoods attention because in 2008 Wanted came out which he directed |
| 03:48.42 | Arrowmaster | i just want more of the series |
| 03:48.48 | Dagmar | Agreed. |
| 03:50.40 | Amarande | but yeah, unfortunately the English version got published as "Twilight Watch" |
| 03:51.07 | Amarande | which would suggest the movie should be titled so as well, but for a fantasy movie to have the name Twilight in the title is probably a marketing nightmare unless it actually *is* targeted at the teenage female market |
| 03:51.10 | Arrowmaster | wonder how good the book translations are |
| 03:51.32 | Amarande | at least at the time being when Meyer's novels and their movies are still so fresh in people's minds |
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| 04:12.04 | Amarande | what's this countdown they keep talking about |
| 04:12.24 | kd3 | the server shutdown when they're going to nerf it |
| 04:12.34 | Amarande | ah |
| 04:14.50 | Dagmar | Attention all users under the age of 18: The world will be ending in approximately one hour and twelve minutes. Please proceed to the forums. |
| 04:16.24 | karl_w_w | in a disorderly fashion. |
| 04:18.04 | nilyaK | what now? |
| 04:21.40 | arton | Dude's trying to make the case that computer-generated musical compositions are going to do away with music from humans. |
| 04:22.11 | arton | :\ |
| 04:22.15 | arton | I'm like, nope. |
| 04:22.42 | arton | nooooooooooope |
| 04:23.41 | arton | Then again there's Sky Net. :P |
| 04:25.19 | Amarande | Kripp! No drinking milk directly out of the carton :| |
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| 05:14.50 | Fisker- | Bashiok apparently recommends the russians to go violate the forum rules on their own forum |
| 05:14.59 | Fisker- | sounds like a plan |
| 05:15.54 | Kaylin | haha |
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| 05:26.54 | bluspacecow | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151026425741011&set=a.189188071010.162684.62826981010&type=1&ref=nf |
| 05:26.57 | bluspacecow | lukz |
| 05:26.59 | bluspacecow | lulz |
| 05:27.01 | mckenziemc | violates Fisker |
| 05:30.11 | Fisker- | hey bluspacecow |
| 05:30.24 | bluspacecow | hay |
| 05:30.31 | Fisker- | so old |
| 05:30.55 | bluspacecow | supernatural episode starting with a creepy shower scene. |
| 05:30.56 | bluspacecow | old |
| 05:31.12 | Fisker- | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2159692/Womans-mouth-falls-pregnant-squid-biting-sea-creature-scientists-claim.html <- atleast use this bluspacecow |
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| 05:41.34 | Thunder_Child | Fisker-: what happened to Fisker? |
| 05:41.51 | Fisker- | he died |
| 05:42.00 | Fisker | but that was in another life |
| 05:47.30 | Fisker | looks like a magsafe connector on the new Microsoft tablet |
| 05:47.31 | Fisker | SUE SUE SUE |
| 05:49.24 | bluspacecow | CARLY CARLY CARLY |
| 05:49.58 | Fisker | no bluspacecow |
| 05:50.00 | Fisker | you're doing it wrong |
| 05:50.04 | Fisker | prepare to be exterminated |
| 05:54.43 | Thunder_Child | you wish Fisker |
| 05:54.53 | Thunder_Child | I wish fisker too |
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| 06:23.01 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5836095253 |
| 06:23.11 | bluspacecow | t's a macro that allows us to enter the bg without having our xp on. All it does is simultaneously accepts to enter the battleground whilst also deducting the 10G payment from Behsten/Slahtz to turn your Xp off |
| 06:23.17 | bluspacecow | not even sure that's possible |
| 06:24.19 | Kaylin | prob is, used to be able to be out of the bracket if they leveled right before accepting |
| 06:26.19 | bluspacecow | http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/282354_238833126220148_91212027_n.jpg |
| 06:30.19 | Torhal | bluspacecow: Simultaneously? Not possible. However, the macro could accept the queue, then do the "Turn my XP off" action before the player is ported. |
| 06:33.36 | bluspacecow | so they'll need to be in front of the Behsten/Slahtz for the macro to work ? |
| 06:33.41 | Torhal | Yes |
| 06:35.39 | arton | lol |
| 06:35.50 | arton | Win |
| 06:39.24 | Kaylin | it's prob quite similar to a turn in quest macro like DBM uses in Alterac Valley for the alliance soldier flesh or w/e disgusting junk you loot off enemies. |
| 06:39.59 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:40.16 | Kaylin | :O |
| 06:40.27 | Kaylin | purrs. |
| 06:40.28 | Torhal | bluweirdcow |
| 06:40.41 | bluspacecow | torpurplehal |
| 06:40.54 | Torhal | No sense did that make. |
| 06:41.08 | arton | cents |
| 06:41.08 | bluspacecow | Yoda not like you are |
| 06:42.58 | Kaylin | are bluspacecows kinda like hydrangeas? They change color depending on the mineral content of the soil? |
| 06:43.07 | bluspacecow | idunnolol |
| 06:43.14 | arton | So Gameloft can kind of bite me. I'm addicted. :( |
| 06:43.17 | bluspacecow | you give me chilli powder i go all red! |
| 06:43.23 | bluspacecow | addicted to __________ ? |
| 06:43.32 | bluspacecow | for me its Pocket Planes |
| 06:43.39 | arton | Dungeon Hunter III |
| 06:43.46 | Kaylin | clearly red/purple ones exist :P they call them demons but they were just planted in areas with lots of felementium. |
| 06:43.46 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:44.25 | bluspacecow | didn't like the premise of DH3 … the arena thing isn't my thing really |
| 06:44.39 | arton | Ok I'll bite. Gameloft created a game called Pocket Planes? o.O |
| 06:44.55 | arton | ah |
| 06:45.25 | Kaylin | but all my friends already play pocket rockets, they'll just say they already have a similar game and I'll have no one to play with |
| 06:45.30 | bluspacecow | nope.jpg |
| 06:45.38 | bluspacecow | thats Nimblebit's work. |
| 06:45.41 | bluspacecow | Tiny Tower guys |
| 06:45.44 | arton | I just played my first hold-em style. |
| 06:45.50 | arton | Oh |
| 06:46.42 | bluspacecow | http://toucharcade.com/2012/06/13/the-pocket-planes-review/ |
| 06:46.43 | arton | I can't put money into that game. There's just no way. |
| 06:47.04 | bluspacecow | also lol http://toucharcade.com/2012/06/14/realmyst-sees-a-release-for-ipad-2-and-new-ipad/ |
| 06:47.07 | bluspacecow | heh arton |
| 06:47.16 | bluspacecow | i haven't put any money in so far |
| 06:47.21 | arton | Ah |
| 06:47.31 | bluspacecow | the trick is playing in such a way to never have to pay for iAP |
| 06:47.40 | Kaylin | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/06/10 |
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| 06:47.55 | arton | How far did you play? |
| 06:48.04 | bluspacecow | pretty far |
| 06:48.28 | bluspacecow | 12 aiports . level 10, 9 planes , #450 on the latest flight crew event. |
| 06:48.29 | arton | You didn't get the +xp% pots? |
| 06:48.42 | bluspacecow | what +xp% pots ? |
| 06:48.46 | arton | in DH3 |
| 06:49.06 | arton | oh wait, nvm |
| 06:49.07 | bluspacecow | oh never played that one thought you were asking about pocket planes |
| 06:49.16 | arton | That was a stupid question. |
| 06:49.22 | arton | Nope |
| 06:49.37 | arton | Oh I thought you played the game. |
| 06:49.46 | arton | DH3 |
| 06:49.59 | arton | :\ |
| 06:50.36 | arton | I thought you said you played DH3 without spending money is what I thought. |
| 06:50.52 | bluspacecow | oh no |
| 06:50.57 | arton | :) |
| 06:51.00 | bluspacecow | that's how i play *all* F2P games |
| 06:51.09 | arton | Ah |
| 06:51.16 | bluspacecow | wheter of facebook , iOS , Mac OS , Steam etc etc etc |
| 06:51.28 | arton | I tried Six Guns and it's impossible I think without upgrading. |
| 06:51.28 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:52.02 | arton | I think the pay-to-own are best. |
| 06:52.28 | arton | Samuraii II I think. It's for Tegra devices only. It's supposed to be popular on iPad I think? |
| 06:52.56 | arton | Only on Tegra Android devices I mean. :P |
| 06:53.04 | arton | It's also on iPad. |
| 06:53.15 | arton | guess not :) |
| 06:54.53 | Kaylin | hmm, is hearth stone location available from the armory? |
| 06:54.54 | bluspacecow | http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/06/08 |
| 06:55.01 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:55.59 | arton | gay wookie no lookie too good |
| 07:08.35 | bluspacecow | http://www.geekwire.com/2012/raunchy-windows-azure-dance-routine/ |
| 07:08.40 | bluspacecow | wot :| |
| 07:12.32 | bluspacecow | http://www.quora.com/Apple-Inc-2/How-does-Apple-keep-secrets-so-well |
| 07:12.43 | Fisker | they don't bluspacecow |
| 07:12.46 | Fisker | don't be absurd |
| 07:12.51 | bluspacecow | lulz |
| 07:17.32 | Fisker | i don't get it though |
| 07:17.43 | Fisker | why did he have to make mac for intel to be with his son? |
| 07:18.02 | Fisker | Also why was his boss amazed |
| 07:18.07 | Fisker | they seriously thought it couldn't be done? |
| 07:18.12 | Fisker | Doesn't seem like reality |
| 07:18.17 | Fisker | not even Apple is that dumb as fuck |
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| 07:25.22 | arton | Would be nice if Gameloft let you sell yourj old gear back. :P |
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| 07:42.41 | Adys | holy shit hes on diablo |
| 07:42.45 | Adys | http://www.twitch.tv/nl_kripp/ |
| 07:50.34 | zenzio | who? |
| 07:51.24 | Kalroth | thats just a softcore training run, adys |
| 07:51.27 | Kalroth | (I think) |
| 07:51.30 | Adys | yeah |
| 07:51.33 | Adys | saw him playing like a cock |
| 07:51.40 | Adys | doing his skills while blackshit phase |
| 07:51.45 | Adys | i was like "wtf?" |
| 07:51.45 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 07:52.26 | Kaylin | oh I thought you were going to be like playing really hard but in short bursts, and when stuff dies all over the ground he needs like 30 min to recharge. |
| 07:53.05 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 07:54.12 | Adys | someone needs to tell him diablo doesn't teleport when he's far from the edges/cracks of the map |
| 07:54.52 | Adys | he had like 5% hp and was sticking his ass on the edge of the map |
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| 07:55.40 | Mr_Rabies | one of these days i'm gonna get the "no health globes" achieve |
| 07:55.47 | Mr_Rabies | it's hard to avoid them though :| |
| 07:55.56 | Mr_Rabies | they pop down right ontop of you as melee |
| 07:55.57 | Adys | get a DH and do it in normal |
| 07:56.09 | Mr_Rabies | that's cheating |
| 07:56.18 | Adys | but yeah a few times i thought it was bugged |
| 07:56.32 | Adys | hey |
| 07:56.55 | Adys | diablo's lair looks like a heart |
| 07:57.45 | Mr_Rabies | consider also that diablo's pretty feminine (likely due to his host) |
| 07:57.53 | Adys | dude he has high heels |
| 07:58.02 | Adys | hes doing hc in 10 mins |
| 07:59.04 | Mr_Rabies | high heels can be masculine |
| 07:59.10 | Mr_Rabies | you just need to pair them with a sweet mustache |
| 07:59.14 | Mr_Rabies | see: http://dalong.net/review/mg/mg100/p/mg100_105.jpg |
| 07:59.30 | bluspacecow | *walks past in high heels sporting a 'stache* |
| 07:59.33 | bluspacecow | wot? |
| 08:00.17 | Mr_Rabies | also not commenting on the...ahem...cockpit |
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| 08:22.39 | Adys | hes going on diablo now |
| 08:25.58 | Sintacks | I want to see them kill it |
| 08:26.03 | Sintacks | but part of me wants to see them die |
| 08:26.42 | Adys | dying would only suck because the patch is in 30 minutes |
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| 08:29.45 | Adys | "careful, things!" |
| 08:29.58 | Adys | -- Diablo fight, 2012 |
| 08:30.15 | Sintacks | is the stream stuttery for you? |
| 08:30.23 | Adys | no |
| 08:30.36 | Sintacks | mine were both fine until they pulled |
| 08:30.53 | Adys | how many viewers does he have btw? im in popout mode |
| 08:31.02 | Sintacks | 40k |
| 08:31.06 | Sintacks | and the wizard has 5k |
| 08:32.01 | Sintacks | lol. twitch tweeted the stream. |
| 08:32.25 | Adys | hah |
| 08:32.31 | Adys | thats really cool |
| 08:33.51 | Adys | this is extremely risky |
| 08:33.58 | Adys | holy shit |
| 08:35.52 | Adys | the hitbox on those meteors is bs |
| 08:36.38 | karl_w_w | holy crap fuck you flash player |
| 08:36.46 | Adys | signed 2012 |
| 08:37.26 | zenzio | *2000-2012 |
| 08:37.45 | Mr_Rabies | yeah it keeps crashing my flash too |
| 08:37.52 | Mr_Rabies | it's gotta be their site, karl_w_w |
| 08:37.54 | Adys | http://www.twitch.tv/nl_kripp/popout |
| 08:37.55 | Adys | try this |
| 08:38.08 | Adys | alright phase 3 |
| 08:38.26 | Sintacks | it's their site. they've got 45k people watching one stream and 5k watching the other |
| 08:39.13 | zenzio | I can't even imagine the chat trying to cope with 45k. Had enough trouble with 12k |
| 08:39.31 | Adys | the chat is disabled for non-subscribers i think |
| 08:39.33 | karl_w_w | Mr_Rabies: it's the new protected mode in flash player |
| 08:39.58 | zenzio | Adys: it can be disabled? I wish you could choose to opt out, not just hide it |
| 08:39.59 | Adys | hes gonna make it i think |
| 08:40.04 | Adys | zenzio: shrug |
| 08:40.18 | zenzio | I know it's just text, and text is cheap, but still |
| 08:40.19 | Adys | just append /popout at the end of the url and you get only the player |
| 08:40.32 | zenzio | hm, good point... why didn't I think of that :-| |
| 08:42.11 | Sintacks | inb4 servers go down without a 15 minute timer |
| 08:42.16 | karl_w_w | not soloing = not fun |
| 08:42.40 | Sintacks | I'm not even doing this. why the fuck am i on the edge of my seat |
| 08:43.17 | Adys | he got the fight down here |
| 08:43.47 | Adys | holy |
| 08:44.14 | Adys | and down |
| 08:44.35 | Sintacks | lol |
| 08:44.38 | Sintacks | grats to them |
| 08:44.46 | Sintacks | waiting for a Tweet from some blizzard people now. lol |
| 08:45.15 | Adys | rofl |
| 08:45.19 | Adys | level 50 ring |
| 08:45.20 | Sintacks | lol. lvl 50 ring from inferno diablo |
| 08:45.42 | bluspacecow | on what sintacks ? |
| 08:46.00 | Sintacks | World First HC Inferno clear |
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| 08:49.06 | bluspacecow | bbl |
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| 09:00.13 | Fisker | rollbacks imo Sintacks |
| 09:00.20 | Sintacks | lol |
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| 09:01.00 | Fisker | pony runs tomorrow Adys ? |
| 09:01.20 | Adys | Fisker: sure if im playing |
| 09:02.11 | Adys | i have do write some article and finish a job |
| 09:16.22 | Kalroth | ( . Y . ) |
| 09:17.27 | Kalroth | https://twitter.com/Bashiok/status/215008237513224192 Bashiok is a meanie! |
| 09:18.29 | Sintacks | he's trollin |
| 09:18.37 | Sintacks | unless he provides some proof |
| 09:21.00 | Corrodias2 | i completed d3 two years ago, didn't your hear? |
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| 09:25.52 | Fisker | hey Adys |
| 09:25.57 | Fisker | finish a job? |
| 09:25.59 | Fisker | tsk |
| 09:26.13 | Adys | meh |
| 09:27.39 | Fisker | i completed D3 Hardcore during developement with OP gear and god mode activated |
| 09:36.09 | Sintacks | You're a bad troll. |
| 09:40.17 | Fisker | i would be |
| 09:40.22 | Fisker | i'm emulating bashiok |
| 09:46.26 | Torhal | Fiskiok? |
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| 10:18.56 | karl_w_w | "Karl, heres something you may not know about your Pill?" |
| 10:19.09 | karl_w_w | that's not even spam email |
| 10:19.35 | karl_w_w | oh there's no question mark that's character encoding |
| 10:28.11 | bluspacecow | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/545041_10151026425741011_1773389207_n.jpg |
| 10:28.13 | bluspacecow | :| |
| 10:28.33 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
| 10:28.41 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 10:28.47 | karl_w_w | apparently fake, bluspacecow |
| 10:28.56 | bluspacecow | oh rly ? source ? |
| 10:29.17 | bluspacecow | nvm |
| 10:29.34 | bluspacecow | http://www.snopes.com/pregnant/3dfilm.asp |
| 10:29.41 | bluspacecow | go go image.google.com search |
| 10:32.08 | bluspacecow | how about this then : http://www.collegehumor.com/picture/6621819/burger-king-pizza-burger |
| 10:32.55 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 10:33.29 | Torhal | secures bluspacecow to a passing comet. |
| 10:33.36 | bluspacecow | weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 10:33.56 | Torhal | decides to get ready for work several hours early because of an inability to go back to sleep. |
| 10:34.07 | bluspacecow | *straps self to Torhal* |
| 10:34.26 | Torhal | drops bluspacecow off an a 3D midget-and-donkey porn show. |
| 10:34.31 | bluspacecow | yay! |
| 10:35.10 | bluspacecow | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1305042/Burger-King-pizza-burger-2-500-calorie-answer-away-dilemma.html |
| 10:35.22 | bluspacecow | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7766798/Americas-unhealthiest-drink-is-a-2000-calorie-milkshake.html |
| 10:54.29 | Adys | nevcairiel: you use hg right? |
| 10:55.30 | Fisker | damnit bluspacecow |
| 10:55.31 | Fisker | i told you |
| 10:55.34 | Fisker | don't link old shit |
| 10:55.44 | bluspacecow | lul |
| 10:55.55 | Fisker | www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2159692/Womans-mouth-falls-pregnant-squid-biting-sea-creature-scientists-claim.html |
| 10:55.56 | Fisker | link that |
| 11:02.48 | bluspacecow | lololol u mad ? |
| 11:11.51 | Adys | hm |
| 11:12.14 | bluspacecow | oh hai adys |
| 11:12.40 | Adys | when writing a paper in english and explaining a term, do you put layman's terms in parentheses and the actual term before, or the opposite? |
| 11:13.25 | bluspacecow | depends |
| 11:13.43 | bluspacecow | when you say your writing it in english does this mean the english is not the main laguage of the paper ? |
| 11:13.48 | Adys | It is |
| 11:14.10 | Adys | "Users with commit access (write access)" or "Users with write access (commit access)", for commit to be used in the rest of the paper |
| 11:16.29 | Elkano | hmm... "users with commit (i.e. write) access"? |
| 11:17.48 | Adys | maybe |
| 11:17.54 | Adys | i might use "write permissions" |
| 11:17.58 | bluspacecow | i'm confused what you mean by "in english" |
| 11:18.21 | bluspacecow | english is not your mother tongue ? or is the paper on the subject of english ? |
| 11:19.42 | Adys | english isnt my mother tongue |
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| 11:25.01 | bluspacecow | i see. |
| 11:26.27 | bluspacecow | i would use the layman's term throughout have have both in the glossary maybe |
| 11:26.44 | Adys | im asking for the proper way |
| 11:27.06 | Adys | in French you have a proper official way; first scientific term, then layman's term |
| 11:27.27 | Sintacks | To the Internet (World Wide Web)! |
| 11:27.54 | bluspacecow | i see |
| 11:27.59 | bluspacecow | i dunno lol |
| 11:28.03 | Sintacks | ^ |
| 11:28.17 | bluspacecow | never had to do a paper that required the exact proper way |
| 11:29.55 | Sintacks | lol. on a "52 interesting facts" thing http://www.mindjunker.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/154.jpg |
| 11:29.56 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 11:31.11 | Kalroth | Adys: http://www.scitext.com/writing.php |
| 11:31.49 | Adys | Kalroth: already read it, it doesn't say anything about this |
| 11:31.51 | Adys | or i missed it |
| 11:32.35 | Adys | its about writing style more than anything |
| 11:32.37 | Kalroth | http://www.scitext.com/writing.php#TIPS under explanation and flow |
| 11:33.21 | zenzio | anyone familiar with the colors in linux netwatch? I can mostly guess the red and green, and guess at the orange... but the occasional blinking purple has me puzzled |
| 11:33.32 | Kalroth | i guess it doesn't specifically mention parentheses |
| 11:34.29 | Adys | i was looking for the official way |
| 11:34.41 | Adys | i guess there isn't any |
| 11:34.49 | Kalroth | http://sportsci.org/jour/9901/wghstyle.html like this then? |
| 11:35.30 | Adys | hm |
| 11:35.37 | Adys | this implies layman's in parens |
| 11:35.42 | Adys | fair enough |
| 11:35.56 | Adys | whatever really :P expectations are raised when you're used to the académie francaise licking your balls all the time |
| 11:36.05 | Kalroth | Personally I'd say it depends on the general language in the document, eg. your target audience |
| 11:36.15 | Adys | cs students |
| 11:36.24 | Kalroth | if you're using scientific terms in general, then put layman's in parentheses |
| 11:36.28 | Kalroth | otherwise switch |
| 11:36.52 | Kalroth | I'd put layman's in parentheses for CS students |
| 11:37.15 | Kalroth | (opinion, not official!) |
| 11:39.01 | Adys | I don't care about your opinion you worthless piece of shit (eg. unlikeable person) |
| 11:46.45 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 11:50.59 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: that alice game is really hard O.o |
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| 12:13.20 | Torhal|work | bluspacecow: Stop causing earthquakes. |
| 12:18.09 | mckenziemc | get back to work Torhal |
| 12:18.49 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:18.52 | bluspacecow | it was _that_ good |
| 12:19.00 | bluspacecow | *buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrp* |
| 12:19.05 | bluspacecow | *the ground shakes* |
| 12:22.29 | bluspacecow | pardon me |
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| 13:30.57 | mitch0 | can someone check is slashdot.org is up or not? |
| 13:31.15 | mitch0 | some sites are unreachable atm from here... |
| 13:31.44 | mitch0 | nvm, must be our proxy again... |
| 13:43.34 | bluspacecow | up for me |
| 13:46.19 | bluspacecow | @mitch0 http://pastebin.com/6ZxbrTsA |
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| 13:57.38 | mitch0 | blue: thanks. turned out our MS proxy went berserk again... |
| 14:00.46 | karl_w_w | something MS going berserk? a rare occurance indeed! |
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| 14:23.46 | sylvanaar_work | i feel an upgrade coming http://www.anandtech.com/show/6017/intel-announces-xeon-phi-family-of-coprocessors-mic-goes-retail |
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| 14:39.25 | Amarande | sylv: huh. they take up your PCIe slot, though |
| 14:39.42 | sylvanaar_work | yeah, something has to |
| 14:39.59 | Amarande | I'm thinking in terms of us upgrading to Xeons and Phis in our home super-rigs |
| 14:40.33 | sylvanaar_work | i havent needed to upgrade my pc since 2009, but i feel like the time is approaching |
| 14:40.41 | Amarande | which I'm not sure is viable then unless you have a SLI motherboard (since you'll be forced to rely on the integrated SB graphics, not sure how well supported those are in gaming drivers, or which Xeons - since apparently the Phi needs a Xeon and not a Core? - actually have said graphics) |
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| 14:40.59 | Amarande | otherwise, you'd have to use a PCI graphics card, and those are not going to perform sufficiently :) |
| 14:41.38 | sylvanaar_work | i have 2 sli motherboards now that i have 1 video card in. one has 3 16 channels the ohter has 2 |
| 14:41.47 | Amarande | because yeah, something has to take up your PCIe slot. it's usually called your video card. :) |
| 14:42.00 | Amarande | ah, the last time I had SLI was in the Socket 939 days |
| 14:42.29 | sylvanaar_work | 1 video card is fast enough. and it is much easier to keep stable |
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| 14:43.27 | Amarande | my current mobo is a particularly good model but doesn't have 2 PCIe16 slots |
| 14:43.28 | Kalroth | SLI/GFX is a good idea on paper, but it's executed poorly by nvidia and amd |
| 14:43.28 | Niki90 | can I found here girls with big boobies ?? |
| 14:43.45 | Kalroth | Niki90: no, we dont share them, sorry |
| 14:44.20 | Niki90 | Kalroth u dont have to share boobies with me, its important u to have it . |
| 14:44.20 | sylvanaar_work | really these days, until the basic desktop display improves, there is no reason to get a new vid card |
| 14:44.42 | sylvanaar_work | i have been at 1920x1600 since 2005 |
| 14:44.48 | Kalroth | unless you play games, no |
| 14:45.02 | Amarande | sylv: I'm thinking about the fact that if you have one video card slot and were to use a Phi, you'd have to hope the game doesn't hate Sandy Bridge integrated graphics |
| 14:45.05 | Kalroth | also its 1920x1200 or 1920x1080 |
| 14:45.07 | Amarande | (or Ivy Bridge these days, I guess.) |
| 14:45.10 | Niki90 | u think Im playing games ? |
| 14:45.45 | Niki90 | haha, its was a joke ... |
| 14:45.58 | Amarande | also, is this thing drop-in supported at the OS level or do specific applications have to specifically be coded to use it? |
| 14:46.09 | sylvanaar_work | sorry, 1920x1200 yes |
| 14:46.26 | Niki90 | i wanted to know something, if someone can tell me what desktop computer is the best for video games ??? |
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| 14:47.07 | sylvanaar_work | nintendo DS |
| 14:47.47 | Dagmar | sylvanaar_work++ |
| 14:48.18 | Dagmar | Niki90: There's not really any answer to that question, at all. |
| 14:48.49 | Dagmar | Niki90: If you need something reasonably approaching an answer, go to curse.com and look in their news posts for their monthly sort-of template build outs. |
| 14:48.50 | Niki90 | Dagmar what is all about this chatroom? |
| 14:49.00 | Dagmar | Niki90: About UI Dev and WoW UI issues. |
| 14:49.04 | Amarande | and yeah, there's apparently only two things right now that I would find useful in a video card upgrade |
| 14:49.24 | Amarande | one being DX11 support, and the other being that maybe it would avoid the framerate drop in certain situations in WoW with my graphics settings maxed |
| 14:49.37 | Amarande | I'm still trying to figure out what causes my framerate in some areas to be lowered for no apparent reason |
| 14:49.38 | sylvanaar_work | D3 looked really awesome on the new Macbook Pro |
| 14:49.45 | Amarande | like, I maxed everything out |
| 14:49.49 | Dagmar | Niki90: ...but there will be no good answer to what you asked from *any* chatroom. However if you can put cards in slots without drooling on them too much those posts on Curse function as a shoppinng list just fine |
| 14:50.04 | Dagmar | It's not really that hard to build a PC, physically |
| 14:50.07 | Amarande | I get a perfect 59-60 FPS in Stormwind, but when I go out into Elwynn to fetch herbs for Minor Inscription Research, it often drops to 30 |
| 14:50.20 | Amarande | and I'm not exactly sure what in Elwynn Forest is more detailed than in SW to cause that to happen :S |
| 14:50.28 | Dagmar | Might be CPU-bound |
| 14:50.29 | sylvanaar_work | You know. I updated my keyboard driver last night, and it asked me if I wanted to install Curse Client |
| 14:50.32 | Dagmar | I know I am |
| 14:50.50 | Dagmar | sylvanaar_work: Very weird |
| 14:50.52 | Amarande | Dagmar: CPU-bound on a Core i5 2400 Sandy Bridge quad core? :S |
| 14:50.53 | foxlit | sylvanaar_work: your keyboard needs drivers? |
| 14:51.05 | sylvanaar_work | well, the keyboard software |
| 14:51.24 | Dagmar | Amarande: Since Intel has decided to make numbers somwhat inscrutible, if that means it's a 2.4Ghz core, then possibly so |
| 14:51.34 | sylvanaar_work | i can set the macros and change the light color and other stupid things |
| 14:51.44 | Amarande | Dagmar: it's 3.10 with 3.40 turbo boost or something like that |
| 14:52.07 | Dagmar | Amarande: Hmm.. .Time to throw in some benchmarking software and find out then |
| 14:52.20 | Dagmar | sylvanaar_work: You upgraded to one of the Logitech G-keyboards? |
| 14:52.31 | sylvanaar_work | i have had one |
| 14:52.39 | sylvanaar_work | i just upgraded the drivers |
| 14:52.42 | sylvanaar_work | or software |
| 14:52.45 | sylvanaar_work | whatever |
| 14:52.45 | Dagmar | Oh |
| 14:52.58 | Dagmar | I finally got around to using the colored LEDs properly. |
| 14:53.16 | Dagmar | Now it no longer comes as a suprise if my G-keys aren't working in WoW |
| 14:53.22 | sylvanaar_work | I honestly use 0 features of the keyboard |
| 14:53.29 | sylvanaar_work | other than the normal keys |
| 14:53.37 | Dagmar | o.O |
| 14:53.48 | sylvanaar_work | maybe the usb port |
| 14:54.23 | Dagmar | Bind your "wipe-stopper" abilities to the G-buttons |
| 14:55.07 | Dagmar | My main's a hunter, so I didn't really have any choice. That class needs a jillion binds |
| 14:55.17 | Stanzilla | Dagmar: that's /logout in your case? |
| 14:55.30 | Dagmar | Nope |
| 14:55.45 | Dagmar | Distracting Shot & Deterrence sequenced on one of them |
| 14:56.20 | sylvanaar_work | the old g15 you could loop the keyboard macros |
| 14:56.23 | Dagmar | The big deal there being that Distracting Shot is somehting you can't risk being pressed on accident. |
| 14:56.28 | sylvanaar_work | that was cool |
| 14:56.44 | sylvanaar_work | press once, and it keeps pressing it until you press it again |
| 14:56.55 | Dagmar | Hell you can still script them with lua but that feature is disabled when some games are running, for obvious reasons |
| 14:57.48 | Amarande | It's also not everywhere in Elwynn that framerate is lost, so it may be tied to a specific detail or type of detail |
| 14:58.28 | Amarande | I am always surprised that keyboard macro capable keyboards survive in today's online gaming world, actually |
| 14:58.54 | sylvanaar_work | it is stupid. if you want to cheat, there are much better options |
| 14:59.05 | sylvanaar_work | virtual keyboards and whatnot |
| 14:59.17 | Dagmar | Yeah, not very useful for cheating, but much easier than growing a lot of extra fingers |
| 14:59.30 | Amarande | yeah, but I always got the feeling like anti-cheat systems would probably detect the drivers for them as cheat programs due to their functionality and ban people |
| 14:59.37 | Amarande | especially zealous ones like VAC |
| 14:59.57 | Dagmar | That's exactly why Logitech on their own disabled the lua-hooks when WoW is the focused app |
| 15:00.28 | Dagmar | It took awhile to figure out that was going on when I was trying to get f**king F13-F24 into play |
| 15:01.23 | sylvanaar_work | you can make a slave keyboard using another pc and match all the UPNP info of some other keyboard exactly. undetectable |
| 15:01.28 | Amarande | Myself every now and then I keep thinking of the idea of getting one of those 122 key terminal keyboards that are aimed at the POS market and see if that would be useful in WoW |
| 15:01.30 | Dagmar | I scribbled some crap in that would make it gen the keycodes for those keys when I pushed G1-G18... They were showing up in Dx test apps once I convinced DirectX that the fucking buttons existed... but they weren't making it into WoW |
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| 15:01.52 | Dagmar | Amarande: I think Razr alread makes those. heh |
| 15:02.15 | Amarande | Apparently you can't use those extra keys in DirectX directly, but such programmable keyboards could be set up so that, e.g., you could mark the extra function keys as equivalent to something like Ctrl+Alt+Shift+K or something similarly finger-twisting to do normally |
| 15:02.20 | Fisker | lol |
| 15:02.33 | Fisker | A+++ bureaucracy |
| 15:02.37 | Dagmar | Well, you can tie them to things that happen in DirectX. |
| 15:02.45 | Amarande | which is quite useful, since the entire right hand side of a standard keyboard is almost off limits for raiding bindings, especially ones that need alt/shift/ctrl keys as well |
| 15:02.53 | Fisker | Someone applied to have grave moved |
| 15:02.58 | Dagmar | ...but for everything else, here's the bitchy thing... DirectX has a very particular idea about what keys actually exist. |
| 15:03.06 | Fisker | but law here states that everyone who have a visit right for the grave have to agree |
| 15:03.10 | Dagmar | Any scancodes that DirectX doesn't believe in get dropped immediatley. |
| 15:03.29 | Fisker | so someone sends in an application without informing them of the other users and gets it moved |
| 15:03.35 | Amarande | Fisker: you mean if the cemetery is accessible to the public, they need a 100% unanimous vote of the entire country? ... |
| 15:03.39 | Dagmar | This is why you don't have a lot of choice but to bind fancy keys to strange ctrl-meta combinations |
| 15:03.41 | Fisker | nope Amarande |
| 15:03.54 | Fisker | only the closest family and shit |
| 15:04.05 | Fisker | yeah i know everyone can go into a cemetary |
| 15:04.14 | Fisker | but anyway it gets lulzy |
| 15:04.19 | Fisker | So it was moved illegally |
| 15:04.42 | Amarande | Can't move graves too often, though. Eventually the dead will get annoyed and zombies will ensue |
| 15:04.42 | Fisker | now they can't get it moved back because it requires consent of all "allowed to visit the grave" |
| 15:04.46 | sylvanaar_work | i even bought a 3 footpedal keyboard once. I thought it would replace my PTT key. Never used it. |
| 15:05.02 | Fisker | and the person who did the fraudwork to have it moved there is obviously objecting |
| 15:05.07 | Amarande | I have no need of a PTT key myself |
| 15:05.22 | Amarande | the mic I use is a Radio Shack one that has its own on-off button |
| 15:05.36 | Dagmar | I wish some of my guildmates could get that clue |
| 15:05.44 | Dagmar | I'm tired of hearing echos, feedback, and chewing |
| 15:05.46 | sylvanaar_work | you use vox? |
| 15:06.20 | Dagmar | I use voice-activation when I'm in the study by myself and all output is going to the headphones |
| 15:06.22 | Amarande | but yeah, the worst thing about raiding keybindings is the whole one handed typing issue |
| 15:06.30 | Amarande | not only do a lot of classes need a lot of bindings |
| 15:06.48 | Amarande | but since your right hand pretty much is going to have to be on the mouse throughout a boss encounter, you need to make sure all those bindings are easily usable with the left hand only |
| 15:06.55 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:07.03 | bluspacecow | https://www.facebook.com/yermad.bistrobar |
| 15:07.08 | bluspacecow | the your mad bar :D |
| 15:07.31 | Dagmar | For some reason people seem averse to the idea that they should test their sensitivity settings, and not even try to use voice-activation if they're going to have speakers active |
| 15:07.34 | sylvanaar_work | and you cant make a wierd ctrl-shift-alt-whatever bind for PTT, because it fucks up other keys you might be pressing at the same time |
| 15:07.42 | Fisker | nope bluspacecow |
| 15:07.58 | Amarande | also, did Microsoft ever fix the CA0 thing? |
| 15:08.18 | Amarande | It's a *highly* obscure flaw in Windows |
| 15:08.33 | Amarande | or was it CS0 |
| 15:08.40 | Amarande | it was either Ctrl+Shift+0 or Ctrl+Alt+0 |
| 15:08.57 | Amarande | well, the affected key combination ... apparently, it's something that started with Vista |
| 15:09.10 | sylvanaar_work | dunno |
| 15:09.21 | Amarande | and apparently it was first noticed by business users (as older versions of Office had the affected combination as a standard shortcut for something or other) |
| 15:09.23 | Dagmar | What's that combination usually do? |
| 15:09.37 | Dagmar | Doesn't seem to do a damn thing here |
| 15:09.48 | sylvanaar_work | wow had some key combo that was shift-alt something that you couldn't ever bind |
| 15:09.48 | Amarande | but, I first noticed it in WoW, when I tried to set up five action bars and looked for multiple-meta combos to use for the newer bars |
| 15:10.01 | Amarande | basically, the key combination would always fail to bind |
| 15:10.09 | Dagmar | Interesting. |
| 15:10.38 | Amarande | ah, there's a MS KB article now to fix it, wonder when they put that in |
| 15:10.49 | Amarande | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/967893 |
| 15:11.23 | Amarande | apparently, CS0 is intercepted by Windows as a shortcut for keyboard layout switching for i18n purposes |
| 15:11.50 | Amarande | however, it is very poorly documented :| |
| 15:11.57 | Dagmar | THe only issue I really have is Windows being kinda stupid about keysyms. If I'm backing up and press one of my G-binds which are mainly CTRL-ALT-Fn, Windows gets the stupid idea I pressed CTRL-S and turns off sound. |
| 15:11.59 | sylvanaar_work | that sounds familiar now |
| 15:12.27 | sylvanaar_work | you need to unbind the turn off sound key |
| 15:12.37 | Dagmar | That would require me not be lazy about it |
| 15:12.38 | sylvanaar_work | i was constantly turning mine off |
| 15:12.46 | sylvanaar_work | for yeers |
| 15:12.47 | Amarande | With the result that it produced a *lot* of puzzled Office and WoW users |
| 15:12.52 | sylvanaar_work | s/ee/ea/ |
| 15:13.13 | Amarande | And not a lot of other people who had even heard of the "glitch", since apparently Office and WoW are the only programs where you might have a significant chance of trying to use the key as an application shortcut key. heh |
| 15:14.52 | Amarande | Nor does Windows produce any really visible feedback when you press the key, all you see is that the key combination apparently fails to work for no discernible reason |
| 15:15.23 | Amarande | ... is keyboard layout switching really that commonly needed of a feature? :S |
| 15:16.09 | sylvanaar_work | yes in asian countries |
| 15:16.16 | Stanzilla | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53m0syaPg9A&feature=player_embedded |
| 15:16.41 | Amarande | it seems like it was a Vista specific problem, too |
| 15:17.17 | Amarande | at least, when I look at the menu described in the KB, the only keybinding assigned to languages and keyboards now is Left Alt+Shift, and I've never seen problems in 7 with things that involve using both such keys at once |
| 15:21.03 | Dagmar | Maybe they should get a simpler alphabet |
| 15:21.21 | Fisker | funny |
| 15:21.33 | Fisker | someone said that Microsoft's Surface looked like a digital photo frame |
| 15:22.02 | sylvanaar_work | so like any other tablet then |
| 15:22.05 | Fisker | Guess he didn't know about the well known other tablet that looked like one as well |
| 15:22.21 | sylvanaar_work | its Resolutionarry! |
| 15:22.57 | sylvanaar_work | i have an iPad3... it is pretty stunning that it has a higher res than my 24" monito |
| 15:23.27 | durcyn | and worse battery life than, well, anything |
| 15:23.48 | sylvanaar_work | the battery life is the same as my original ipad.. around 10hrs |
| 15:23.51 | Fisker | except a battery powered fission reactor durcyn |
| 15:23.55 | durcyn | i particularly enjoy how mine takes 12 hours to charge, but only 8 to discharge |
| 15:24.04 | sylvanaar_work | you need a better charger |
| 15:24.20 | durcyn | i'm using their 10W one, and one of their special USB ports |
| 15:24.52 | Dagmar | Fisker: Microsoft's tablet, at the present time, is just bullshit |
| 15:24.53 | durcyn | unless the mac mini only supplies 5W or something |
| 15:25.16 | sylvanaar_work | i charge mine with the AV adapter that thing somehow can charge my iphone in like 30 min, and my ipad in like 45ish |
| 15:25.19 | Dagmar | Fisker: Unless they have Apple make it for them, it's still vaporware bullshit they're trying to score marketing points with |
| 15:25.27 | Fisker | mad Dagmar ? |
| 15:25.37 | durcyn | Dagmar: they could make bank selling that keyboard for the ipad, should just do that instead |
| 15:25.38 | Dagmar | gay Fisker? |
| 15:25.48 | Fisker | nope |
| 15:25.58 | Fisker | homophobe Dagmar ? |
| 15:26.00 | durcyn | why would you use sexual orientation as a pejorative, Dagmar, why |
| 15:26.20 | Dagmar | durcyn: It's probably bluetooth, but like Microsoft makes anything compatible unless the DoJ is breathing down their necks |
| 15:26.28 | Dagmar | durcyn: Because at least it's something different |
| 15:26.37 | Amarande | so, is there expected to be a WoW patch today? |
| 15:26.54 | Dagmar | It was also not perjorative. |
| 15:26.59 | Fisker | Dagmar which is different from Apple how? |
| 15:27.14 | Fisker | Except the fact that we already got USB and Micro DP support |
| 15:27.20 | Amarande | I noticed Sunday when I logged on there was a 6GB extra download for some reason or other that I'm not sure of |
| 15:27.21 | Fisker | on the surface tablet |
| 15:27.21 | Dagmar | Fisker: Please cite where I mention Apple, at all |
| 15:27.47 | Dagmar | ...and then explain how it is you've come to the conclusion I was saying anything about Apple's compatibility goals. |
| 15:28.17 | Torhal|work | Amarande: Oh, that's likely the streaming download thinger being a bastard. Sometimes if you look at it sideways it goes "LOL 5GB download for you!" |
| 15:28.38 | sylvanaar_work | Fisker doesn't like apple for some reason |
| 15:28.49 | Fisker | who would like apple sylvanaar_work ? |
| 15:28.51 | Torhal|work | If I do a fresh install, then replace my WTF with a symlink to my DropBox, it will do that. Lovely thing when you have a 250GB monthly cap. |
| 15:28.57 | Dagmar | It's not hard to find reasons not to like Apple |
| 15:29.51 | sylvanaar_work | i have PC and apple. i use pc more, but i like my apple hardware better its just made nicer |
| 15:30.22 | Dagmar | You also paid a fair bit more for it |
| 15:30.30 | Dagmar | No competition. |
| 15:30.31 | karl_w_w | it would have to be made nicer for that price |
| 15:30.58 | Fisker | is the hardware made nicer? |
| 15:31.01 | sylvanaar_work | i paid more for my 1 pc in 2009 than all my apple devices total |
| 15:31.14 | karl_w_w | i have a lambo and a suzuki in my garage. the suzuki is more comfortable but the lambo is just made nicer |
| 15:31.26 | Dagmar | That's very sad |
| 15:31.29 | Fisker | karl_w_w |
| 15:31.42 | Fisker | did you pay more for the Lambo than all of your electronic devices |
| 15:31.43 | Fisker | ? |
| 15:31.44 | Dagmar | Mac hardware isn't proce-competitive |
| 15:31.50 | Dagmar | s/proce/price/ |
| 15:31.53 | karl_w_w | yes Fisker |
| 15:31.53 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 15:32.02 | bluspacecow | i thought you meant ponce competitive |
| 15:32.02 | Fisker | damn would you look at that |
| 15:32.09 | bluspacecow | and was wondering what you meant. |
| 15:32.40 | karl_w_w | Mac hardware is very competitive in the ponce market :P |
| 15:32.52 | sylvanaar_work | what is ponce? |
| 15:32.53 | Dagmar | karl_w_w++ |
| 15:32.59 | Dagmar | sylvanaar_work: A pussy |
| 15:33.00 | bluspacecow | ~wiki ponce |
| 15:33.00 | durcyn | really enjoyable reading all of your opinions presented as fact |
| 15:33.04 | sylvanaar_work | i see |
| 15:33.17 | bluspacecow | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ponce |
| 15:33.41 | Fisker | Magic Find will no longer be considered when looting objects in the environment such as chests, barrels, vases, pots, and corpses |
| 15:33.44 | Fisker | dicks |
| 15:33.55 | Dagmar | durcyn: Fact. Only Apple makes apples. |
| 15:34.01 | Fisker | Destructible objects no longer have a chance to drop items, and will only have a small chance to drop gold when destroyed |
| 15:34.02 | Fisker | oh god |
| 15:34.04 | sylvanaar_work | Foxconn |
| 15:34.08 | Fisker | you just destroyed the purpose of Diablo |
| 15:34.18 | foxlit | good! |
| 15:34.35 | foxlit | I'll no longer be motivated to break those adorable vases in act 4 |
| 15:34.40 | karl_w_w | wtf |
| 15:34.43 | sylvanaar_work | they want everyone to stop playing now and go back to wow |
| 15:34.48 | Fisker | hahahaha |
| 15:34.48 | Fisker | Minimum damage and Maximum damage values will now display separately in an item's tooltip (i.e. "+2-4 Damage" will now display as "+2 Minimum Damage” and “+2 Maximum Damage") |
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| 15:35.03 | Dagmar | sylvanaar_work: Yeah but since they're under contract by Apple you're not supposed to even think about the fact that a company you normally coulnd't be paid to use a motherboard from is making your entire expensive macbook |
| 15:35.05 | Fisker | Is that Blizzard Developer for "We couldn't program a range for min-max damage for the AH search" |
| 15:35.31 | foxlit | boring stat, anyway. Should be +X average damage. |
| 15:35.36 | karl_w_w | ^ |
| 15:35.43 | sylvanaar_work | i alnost bought a foxconn notherboard when i built my current pc..it was really nice too |
| 15:35.44 | karl_w_w | that would be too complicated though |
| 15:36.02 | foxlit | or too simple. |
| 15:36.08 | mikma | sylvanaar_work: nnn |
| 15:36.16 | karl_w_w | simple is complicated at blizzard HQ |
| 15:36.37 | Dagmar | We used to refer to Foxconn, Jetway, PCChips and FIC as "RMA Vendors" for a reason |
| 15:36.55 | Fisker | oh well |
| 15:36.56 | Fisker | i'm dumb |
| 15:36.57 | Krapsy | omg why are they nerfing finding stuff which is like the engine of diablo |
| 15:36.58 | Amarande | haha pcchips |
| 15:37.00 | Fisker | The gold cost to level the Blacksmith has been reduced by 50% |
| 15:37.00 | sylvanaar_work | the EVGA board i bought wasnt that great either |
| 15:37.04 | Fisker | i just maxed him yesterday |
| 15:37.22 | foxlit | grats Fiskerer! |
| 15:37.27 | sylvanaar_work | i am going to buy genuine intel next time like my 2 prior pcs |
| 15:37.31 | foxlit | reminds me to buy some tomes. |
| 15:38.33 | Fisker | Mortar monsters can now hurl projectiles farther, but their minimum range has also been increased by 100% |
| 15:38.35 | Fisker | nice |
| 15:38.45 | Fisker | now i can't stand in melee of a mob but get hit by mortar because the mob is fucking huge |
| 15:38.46 | foxlit | not nice. |
| 15:39.16 | karl_w_w | wow really |
| 15:39.17 | foxlit | I wonder if ranged now gets to fight from off-screen or get killed in melee? |
| 15:39.19 | sylvanaar_work | i am ready for torchlight2 |
| 15:39.20 | *** join/#wowuidev Ketho (~ngsc@ip565063bd.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 15:39.21 | karl_w_w | what a shit change |
| 15:39.53 | karl_w_w | so basically any mortar mob = gg ranged |
| 15:40.14 | Fisker | It is no longer possible to prevent character death in a single-player game by pausing the game in one game client and then logging into the same account from a different game client |
| 15:40.15 | Fisker | haha |
| 15:40.17 | Fisker | rip hardcore |
| 15:40.18 | Krapsy | mortars are easy to avoid |
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| 15:40.28 | sylvanaar_work | i like the mortar + invinvible minions + arcane spinners |
| 15:40.34 | foxlit | mortar + horde, imo |
| 15:40.42 | Dagmar | They couldn't hit you with mortar fire if you were meleeing them even before now |
| 15:40.42 | karl_w_w | i like the mortar = jailor |
| 15:40.47 | karl_w_w | + |
| 15:40.57 | durcyn | extra health illusionist mortar + anything, you mean |
| 15:41.00 | foxlit | Dagmar: the trick is that there is usually more than one mob |
| 15:41.17 | karl_w_w | 3 tends to be the minimum |
| 15:41.22 | foxlit | and some mob types have an annoying tendency to spread out rather than converge on you. |
| 15:41.31 | sylvanaar_work | 3 invincible minions all FF on you |
| 15:41.38 | Dagmar | Actually I'd say the trick is *not standing still* for the mortars to land |
| 15:41.43 | karl_w_w | especially when they are all standing there mortaring u |
| 15:41.52 | foxlit | or take long breaks from chasing you for no reason at all. |
| 15:41.58 | sylvanaar_work | moving doesnt help, unless you can teleport |
| 15:42.10 | karl_w_w | it can help |
| 15:42.15 | Dagmar | It does even when you can't teleport |
| 15:42.21 | Dagmar | You hit them and then move your ass |
| 15:42.22 | karl_w_w | when you are running AWAY |
| 15:42.26 | foxlit | Some shots lead you. |
| 15:42.44 | Dagmar | None of the shots are homing shots |
| 15:42.53 | foxlit | and high heavens help you if you run into anything movement-impairing |
| 15:43.02 | sylvanaar_work | im talking about the minions that cant be killed until you kill their master |
| 15:43.17 | Dagmar | Yes but not trying to move is just as dumb and lazy as refusing to get out of the fire |
| 15:43.25 | sylvanaar_work | those things are just stupid |
| 15:43.30 | foxlit | Dagmar: rest assured, nobody is not moving. |
| 15:43.41 | sylvanaar_work | ^^ |
| 15:43.57 | foxlit | since that's pretty much instant death. The problem worth complaining is that you get like 1 second of dps for like 7 seconds of fleeing form shit |
| 15:44.06 | foxlit | s/form/from/ |
| 15:44.09 | Dagmar | You wanted hard, right? ;) |
| 15:44.37 | foxlit | I wanted fun, personally. |
| 15:44.54 | karl_w_w | Dagmar: i bet you say that to all the girls |
| 15:45.17 | Dagmar | You should have tried FF X2 with the five-headed bosses you just suffer through their attacks for about 50 seconds, get two rounds of "QUICK HIT HIM NAO" and then resume covering your softparts... for 20-30 minutes |
| 15:45.27 | karl_w_w | i remember when video games knew how to be hard without being endlessly frustrating |
| 15:45.39 | foxlit | but see also: enrage timers. |
| 15:45.40 | Dagmar | If you fumble a tactics change, you get to die |
| 15:45.54 | karl_w_w | i think that was before i started playing blizzard games... |
| 15:45.55 | foxlit | Can't kill invisible shielding snakes in 5 minutes? DIE! |
| 15:46.12 | Dagmar | At least these damn things are over with quick |
| 15:49.32 | foxlit | "The Staff of Herding can no longer be salvaged or dropped" |
| 15:49.55 | foxlit | I smell an awesome prank if you ever get access to someone's account for a few weeks. |
| 15:50.28 | karl_w_w | what prank's that? |
| 15:50.51 | foxlit | the obvious one. |
| 15:50.57 | foxlit | Fill all storage space with staves of herding. |
| 15:51.14 | karl_w_w | vendor all their stuff and trade the gold to your main is the obvious one |
| 15:51.37 | foxlit | that's not a prank, that's highway robbery. |
| 15:52.12 | karl_w_w | you say potato i say potahto |
| 15:52.15 | karl_w_w | except i dont |
| 15:52.19 | karl_w_w | but whatever |
| 15:52.24 | foxlit | on the other hand, having your inventory space filled by items you can't sell on AH, sell to merchants, disenchant, or drop seems like an awesome prank. |
| 15:55.31 | Adys | If anyone needs the Bashanishu achievement (bashiok w/ rakanishu's blade), I have him in EU SC hell for the next 2 minutes |
| 15:56.30 | foxlit | "In Inferno difficulty, Siegebreaker will now gain the Reflects Damage affix" |
| 15:56.35 | foxlit | hilarity ensues. |
| 15:58.44 | Krapsy | this drops nerf is really bothering me |
| 15:58.56 | foxlit | which particular one? |
| 15:59.43 | Krapsy | the combination of what fisker pasted |
| 16:00.23 | Adys | foxlit: what? |
| 16:00.52 | Torhal|work | It wouldn't be so bad if the drops were worth a damn to begin with and they didn't just massively inflate repairs. |
| 16:01.24 | Torhal|work | But I haven't actually played to see how bad it is, so I'll shut up. |
| 16:02.07 | Adys | foxlit: source |
| 16:03.07 | Fisker | www.diablofans.com |
| 16:03.16 | Torhal|work | The Staff of Herding can no longer be salvaged or dropped |
| 16:03.22 | Fisker | magic find doesn't work on objects anymore btw Adys |
| 16:03.23 | Torhal|work | Didn't say sold. |
| 16:03.35 | Arrowmaster | it cant currently be sold |
| 16:03.37 | foxlit | Torhal|work: it already can't be sold. |
| 16:03.38 | Fisker | and destructables can only drop gold now apparently |
| 16:03.41 | Fisker | hope which sucks |
| 16:03.54 | Torhal|work | "Ok, fine. We'll make Inferno actually playable. But guess what? Have fun trying to get loot or gold!" |
| 16:04.10 | foxlit | killing mobs is fine for both of these goals? |
| 16:04.22 | foxlit | Why do people feel the need to break pretty vases? :) |
| 16:04.34 | Adys | Fisker: wtf? |
| 16:04.36 | Torhal|work | No. |
| 16:04.41 | Torhal|work | The issue is chests. |
| 16:04.45 | Torhal|work | Magic find no longer works on CHESTS. |
| 16:05.41 | foxlit | meh. Amount of loot from mobs >> amount of loot from chests. |
| 16:06.26 | Krapsy | the only reason you would even consider doing these is because lots of people lots of people only log in to break stuff hoping to find items, so a lot of people are doing that? |
| 16:07.00 | Krapsy | Torhal|work: Magic Find will no longer be considered when looting objects in the environment such as chests, barrels, vases, pots, and corpses |
| 16:07.02 | Torhal|work | I've found probably two rares from barrels. |
| 16:07.15 | foxlit | presumably botting vases is easier than botting monsters. |
| 16:07.20 | Torhal|work | Krapsy: Yes, I know, but the chests is what is bothersome. |
| 16:07.26 | durcyn | every single one of my legendaries has come from world objects, fuck this earth |
| 16:07.44 | Krapsy | legendaries arent that great |
| 16:07.51 | Krapsy | statswise |
| 16:07.57 | durcyn | your mother's not that great, but that doesn't stop anyone |
| 16:08.13 | Torhal|work | Not right now they aren't, but supposedly they'll be worth at least half a damn in 1.1 |
| 16:16.57 | nicoli_s | i never got anything good from objects, but then again i only played through normal |
| 16:18.03 | Fisker | my first time was with an object nicoli_s |
| 16:19.01 | Torhal|work | This is unsurprising, Fisker. |
| 16:19.59 | Krapsy | they could just decrease the level of stats you get from breaking things and leave everything else the same and that would be fine |
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| 16:32.50 | karl_w_w | cata's last TCG out |
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| 16:39.09 | pompy | "Fixed a bug that was causing Collector's Edition dyes to sell for the same price regardless of stack size..." .... lol at teh "..." |
| 16:42.05 | pompy | Rank 8: Flawless Square: 100 gold (down from 20,000 gold) ... well shit |
| 16:44.25 | Unkle | How much gold did *you* spend? |
| 16:46.58 | pompy | none, i didnt touch professions yet |
| 16:50.06 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn|afk: http://imgur.com/a/c158x |
| 16:52.34 | Thunder_Child | someone has way too much time on their hands |
| 16:53.19 | nicoli_s | Arrowmaster that is awesome |
| 16:54.03 | Fisker | hey Arrowmaster |
| 16:54.05 | Fisker | cease and desist |
| 16:59.06 | Krapsy | The South Korean Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism is preparing a new law that will outlaw virtual item trades and farming items for commercial use in games. This new law is supposed to encourage students to avoid wasting time and improve the environment of games. The law prohibits players from using software that allows characters to farm items in a game without the need for a human... |
| 16:59.08 | Krapsy | ...to be playing. |
| 17:00.06 | Arrowmaster | so to encourage people to not spend to much time playing games, they outlaw automated bots? |
| 17:00.18 | nicoli_s | so does that make games like the sims illegal |
| 17:00.30 | nicoli_s | since you can just let it sit there and happen |
| 17:00.37 | Fisker | shh Arrowmaster it's not supposed to make sense |
| 17:00.57 | Fisker | criminalizing bots was probably done with pressure from the US |
| 17:01.43 | Krapsy | most games have a policy against bots anyway |
| 17:01.56 | Fisker | doesn't make it against the law |
| 17:01.59 | Krapsy | especially online games |
| 17:03.34 | Krapsy | doesnt most botting/account hacking happen from asia? |
| 17:04.17 | Stanzilla | a friend of mine made 6k euros/month |
| 17:04.20 | Stanzilla | with botting |
| 17:04.55 | Krapsy | i need more bread for lunch |
| 17:05.38 | Krapsy | breadstuffs |
| 17:05.42 | pompy | "Players can no longer avoid being frozen by doing high amounts of amount to Izual" .. oh really? |
| 17:07.30 | Fisker | i hate high amounts of amounts |
| 17:09.16 | pompy | iknorite |
| 17:09.31 | Krapsy | didnt even know you can avoid being frozen by doing high amounts of damage |
| 17:10.05 | Krapsy | because i never had the opportunity to do that on Izual :/ |
| 17:10.30 | pompy | we dunno if its damage ;) |
| 17:10.38 | Krapsy | off the top of my head hes the hardest boss in the game |
| 17:10.47 | pompy | lol yeah hes annoying |
| 17:10.52 | pompy | 'and they increased his health pool |
| 17:10.55 | Krapsy | pompy: i'm assuming thats what it means :p |
| 17:11.07 | Krapsy | guh |
| 17:11.23 | pompy | lol |
| 17:12.09 | pompy | on cydae " Spiderlings will now have an easier time hitting players, but their damage has been reduced by 20% to compensate" |
| 17:12.13 | pompy | lol oh ok |
| 17:13.05 | Krapsy | man these are not the patch notes im looking for |
| 17:14.03 | foxlit | Krapsy: "Damage from monsters in Acts II, III, and IV in Inferno difficulty has been reduced" |
| 17:14.12 | Krapsy | The character screen should now always *display the display the* correct act and quest information |
| 17:14.24 | Krapsy | foxlit: yes thats great |
| 17:14.35 | Krapsy | no sarcasm |
| 17:14.57 | pompy | lol no act I |
| 17:15.00 | pompy | ook |
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| 17:15.50 | Krapsy | what ive read that people got through act I ok but "hit a wall" at II |
| 17:16.23 | Fisker | i didn't hit a wall at act 2 |
| 17:16.25 | Fisker | i hit a wasp |
| 17:16.40 | bluspacecow | with your mind bullets! |
| 17:16.52 | Krapsy | more like the wasp hit you |
| 17:17.02 | Fisker | nope |
| 17:17.06 | pompy | that wasp spit out other wasps that do 43534534 dmg too |
| 17:17.27 | Fisker | indeed pompy |
| 17:18.20 | Krapsy | High-end items (items level 61-63) will now drop in all Acts of Inferno and *Acts III and IV of Hell difficulty* |
| 17:18.22 | Krapsy | aww yeah |
| 17:18.33 | pompy | azmodan farming! |
| 17:19.05 | Krapsy | iLvl 63: 0% :P |
| 17:19.47 | pompy | lol |
| 17:20.09 | Krapsy | Weapon racks will no longer drop weapons 100% of the time |
| 17:20.33 | Krapsy | dammit all those whites and greys nooooo |
| 17:21.55 | Krapsy | what do you think about this For example: previously, if you were debuffed by a 60% slow that lasted for 2 seconds while wearing gear that provides 20% Crowd Control Reduction, your movement speed would be reduced by 60%, but only for 1.6 seconds. Now, the same amount of Crowd Control Reduction will reduce the Slow effect to 48%, but the effect will remain for the full 2 second duration. |
| 17:21.58 | Stanzilla | that's actually good |
| 17:22.03 | Stanzilla | because now you HAVE to open all the shit |
| 17:22.07 | Stanzilla | because it can drop good stuff |
| 17:22.53 | foxlit | Krapsy: very few things actually snare you? |
| 17:23.08 | Krapsy | true |
| 17:23.21 | pompy | "Will Charge slightly more often, but will only target players" ... |
| 17:23.23 | pompy | riight |
| 17:24.26 | Stanzilla | any cygwin users here? |
| 17:25.41 | Fisker | yep Stanzilla |
| 17:25.52 | Stanzilla | Fisker: ever tried https://github.com/bmatzelle/gow/wiki/ ? |
| 17:25.57 | Stanzilla | just found it and looks quite good |
| 17:26.31 | Krapsy | wow look at those get price drops |
| 17:26.36 | Krapsy | gem* |
| 17:26.48 | Fisker | oh i don't use cygwin |
| 17:27.31 | pompy | Krapsy: yeah rank 8 20k g to 100g lol |
| 17:28.08 | Krapsy | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:28.10 | Krapsy | haha |
| 17:28.12 | pompy | still apparently cant craft anything good |
| 17:28.50 | karl_w_w | omg "biffles"? |
| 17:28.57 | karl_w_w | throws up |
| 17:29.51 | Krapsy | why are there enrage timers |
| 17:29.55 | Cide- | hi |
| 17:30.14 | pompy | if there are any sc players lol .. http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/725103/blizzard-no-development-happening-on-starcraft-ghost/ |
| 17:30.32 | karl_w_w | Krapsy: to make sure you kill it within a certain time |
| 17:31.19 | Fisker | so old pompy |
| 17:31.25 | pompy | soo old. |
| 17:31.28 | Krapsy | why, is there a way to make bosses more trivial if theres no timer? |
| 17:31.31 | Fisker | yeah pompy |
| 17:31.51 | Fisker | also a decade old by now pompy |
| 17:31.54 | Fisker | almost* |
| 17:32.36 | Krapsy | wow nerfs to Izual all over the place |
| 17:32.53 | Fisker | mad? |
| 17:33.05 | Krapsy | very glad actually |
| 17:33.20 | Fisker | good |
| 17:33.27 | Fisker | because pompy posts old shit |
| 17:33.31 | pompy | but hes guna chrge more often and has more hp! |
| 17:34.08 | Krapsy | fine, dont read the 20 other things :p |
| 17:34.36 | pompy | nah i did |
| 17:34.42 | pompy | they are trying to ompensate! |
| 17:34.58 | foxlit | I'm amused by notes like "will target your companions less" |
| 17:35.04 | foxlit | nothing ever targets my companions :( |
| 17:35.49 | pompy | yeah .. ive only had one time where my templar tanked queen arenae like a champ...idk how that happened! |
| 17:36.24 | Krapsy | do mobs have an attack table |
| 17:37.08 | Krapsy | btw thank you for all the "run away less" stuff |
| 17:37.27 | foxlit | that's more wasps they'll shoot in your face, you know! |
| 17:37.42 | Krapsy | do more damage! |
| 17:37.54 | Krapsy | cant ever have enough |
| 17:38.16 | Krapsy | Morlu no longer have the Invulnerable Minions, Health Link, or Fire Chains affixes |
| 17:38.18 | Krapsy | swell |
| 17:38.39 | Krapsy | Leaders of Invulnerable Minions packs have had their health pools reduced |
| 17:38.41 | Krapsy | sweller |
| 17:38.47 | foxlit | I have a feeling that Morlu is a race name that encompasses more mob types. |
| 17:38.59 | foxlit | in which case, why no fire chains? |
| 17:39.05 | foxlit | And what has Health Link ever done to anyway? |
| 17:39.09 | foxlit | s/way/one/ |
| 17:40.15 | Krapsy | what does it do |
| 17:40.45 | Krapsy | Monsters with the Reflects Damage affix will no longer reflect Follower damage back to the player |
| 17:40.54 | Krapsy | that was a thing? :/ |
| 17:40.59 | Arrowmaster | i had a group of health link mobs i couldnt kill yesterday |
| 17:41.31 | Arrowmaster | it was health link + fire chains |
| 17:41.38 | Arrowmaster | and some other shit |
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| 17:41.51 | foxlit | some other shit better be jailer and teleporter |
| 17:42.04 | Arrowmaster | i think one was fast |
| 17:42.05 | foxlit | or maybe fast. |
| 17:42.25 | Arrowmaster | but my gear sucks |
| 17:42.38 | Krapsy | Item tooltips in the auction house will now correctly reflect stat bonuses provided by socketed gems |
| 17:42.51 | Krapsy | heh i was never sure if it did this |
| 17:43.03 | Arrowmaster | it didnt |
| 17:43.13 | Arrowmaster | but they sorted based on status after gems |
| 17:43.26 | Arrowmaster | shit reddit broke |
| 17:43.34 | foxlit | basically, the only place you'll notice anything is when sorting weapons with red gems by dps |
| 17:43.47 | Krapsy | Fixed several issues where a player's character would get stuck or "rubberband" while moving if their movement speed was slowed in any way |
| 17:44.01 | Krapsy | huh i thought this was a lag problem |
| 17:44.24 | Primer | odd that a single player game should have lag... |
| 17:44.39 | Arrowmaster | no its been said the rubberbanding only happens when you have movement speed boots |
| 17:45.15 | Krapsy | oh yeah? |
| 17:45.44 | Arrowmaster | dont ask for source, i wont be able to provide it |
| 17:49.12 | foxlit | source? that's easy. Arrowmaster just said it! |
| 18:00.28 | Primer | What if it's GPL? |
| 18:00.33 | Primer | runs |
| 18:05.28 | Fisker | ever had to kill a guy Primer ? |
| 18:06.02 | Primer | once, in Nam |
| 18:07.50 | pompy | Stanzilla: http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/put-your-system-through-its-paces-download-the-pla-directx-11-and-physx-benchmark/ doo eet |
| 18:08.35 | Stanzilla | maybe later |
| 18:09.03 | Ackis | ok I suck at D3 |
| 18:09.30 | Ackis | I'm stuck at not being able to get Hell Rakanoth past 75% health |
| 18:10.02 | Stanzilla | xD |
| 18:10.02 | Arrowmaster | i got stuck at hell diablo so i did it in a public game |
| 18:12.18 | pompy | Ackis: engage him where hes standing so he doesnt teleport to you .. and jus try to shield yourself and stay near full health the whole time and keep running! |
| 18:13.06 | Ackis | yeah it's the teleport that kills me |
| 18:13.08 | Krapsy | cant remember who Rakanoth |
| 18:13.10 | Krapsy | is |
| 18:13.18 | pompy | first boss in act 4 |
| 18:13.20 | pompy | in the lib |
| 18:13.22 | pompy | well second |
| 18:13.43 | pompy | hes holding the one angel hostage |
| 18:14.29 | pompy | Ackis: if you have any like distracting abilities try to time them just right maybe. |
| 18:17.30 | Ackis | I'll just wait for my wife to get home so I can die and she can kill it |
| 18:17.45 | Arrowmaster | well this sucks, i went to find the AC in the garage and i cant find the side plates to make it fit in the window |
| 18:18.00 | pompy | lol Ackis what class |
| 18:18.20 | Ackis | demon hunter I am, she's a wizard |
| 18:18.23 | Fisker | hey pompy |
| 18:18.52 | Stanzilla | Ackis: should be easy as dh |
| 18:19.07 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 18:19.07 | Ackis | Stanzilla: I'm not very good |
| 18:19.08 | pompy | Ackis: dont even bother dieing, just join up and have her go in and do it and youll get the achievement (unless that was aa change this patch or hotfix) |
| 18:19.09 | Fisker | Parnic loves me |
| 18:19.15 | Fisker | mad? |
| 18:19.18 | Ackis | hey Fisker |
| 18:19.23 | Ackis | nope |
| 18:19.26 | Fisker | yes you are |
| 18:19.28 | Fisker | don't lie |
| 18:21.38 | pompy | Arrowmaster: http://www.trueachievements.com/n9433/prices-and-dates-announced-for-summer-of-arcade.htm |
| 18:23.00 | pompy | lol ? http://gamerant.com/error-33-diablo-3-patch-robk-155724/ |
| 18:23.06 | Ackis | someone reported me for cheating on TA and now I'm under investigation and have to "explain" all my bugged achievements that I've ever gotten :( |
| 18:23.18 | pompy | :O |
| 18:24.22 | Dagmar | So basically, instead of them doing work, you're going to let them talk you into giving them ammunition to fuck you over? |
| 18:24.26 | Dagmar | Fuck that. |
| 18:24.55 | Dagmar | "I went and did them. It should be obvious these things are important to me, so I do them. Don't ask me to remember what the hell I did months ago." |
| 18:25.42 | Mr_Rabies | TA, Ackis? |
| 18:26.05 | Ackis | trueachievements |
| 18:26.06 | pompy | Mr_Rabies: link i posted |
| 18:26.09 | Mr_Rabies | oh |
| 18:26.50 | Mr_Rabies | mannn i really hope they add battletags properly to wow soon |
| 18:27.04 | Mr_Rabies | i'm tired of having to deal with how janky it is having to add people in diablo |
| 18:28.01 | pompy | "Reporting another player using the Report > Spam option will now mute that player for the duration of your gaming session" |
| 18:28.06 | pompy | session, not for good lol. |
| 18:28.11 | Mr_Rabies | also openraid |
| 18:28.31 | Mr_Rabies | they'll probably be banned after a session or two |
| 18:28.51 | Mr_Rabies | no point in filling up your ignore list with spammers whose accounts will be removed pretty quickly |
| 18:33.30 | pompy | + Attack Speed bonus values on weapons and armor have been reduced by 50%This change does not apply to quivers |
| 18:33.32 | pompy | wth! |
| 18:33.44 | Fisker | why would anyone care Ackis ? |
| 18:34.04 | Ackis | anyone bored and want to debug some code and tell me why it works on reload ui but not on initial log in? :D |
| 18:34.08 | Ackis | @project professor |
| 18:34.13 | Ackis | Fisker: people like their numbers |
| 18:34.29 | Arrowmaster | pompy: it was previously too high |
| 18:34.47 | haste | Ackis: wild guess: you're asking for information the client doesn't have right after login |
| 18:35.30 | Ackis | haste: agreed but I thought I delayed it until the proper events fire |
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| 18:36.48 | haste | so what is it failing to fetch? |
| 18:37.16 | Arrowmaster | so i was playing Deus Ex HR and a cop was talking about a movie from the 80s where a cop gets shot up and they replace parts of his body with machines |
| 18:37.33 | Arrowmaster | now im watching Robocop bitches |
| 18:38.20 | Unkle | Dead or alive, you're coming with me. |
| 18:38.20 | Humbedooh | you've never seen Robocop? ;o |
| 18:38.37 | Ackis | haste: archaeology data |
| 18:38.44 | Arrowmaster | Humbedooh: ...... |
| 18:38.54 | haste | sounds tainted Ackis ! |
| 18:39.05 | Arrowmaster | Humbedooh: i have a huge collection of 80s movies, OF COURSE IVE SEEN ROBOCOP |
| 18:39.10 | Humbedooh | good! |
| 18:39.16 | Humbedooh | I was starting to think I'd gotten old :\ |
| 18:39.28 | Arrowmaster | ive got the motherfucking A-Team box set that looks like the van |
| 18:39.41 | haste | sounds, awesome! |
| 18:39.44 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 18:40.20 | karl_w_w | everybody has seen robocop |
| 18:40.28 | karl_w_w | even Fisker |
| 18:40.32 | TC-Work | i doubt everone |
| 18:40.34 | Arrowmaster | http://amzn.com/B003DPC4HQ |
| 18:40.38 | TC-Work | everyone* |
| 18:40.40 | karl_w_w | even |
| 18:40.42 | karl_w_w | Fisker |
| 18:41.08 | haste | TC-Work: event Amanda Bieber?! |
| 18:41.13 | haste | s/t// |
| 18:41.45 | karl_w_w | is that Fisker's full name? |
| 18:41.58 | haste | http://i.imgur.com/mbUUU.jpg very related |
| 18:43.19 | Unkle | haste: She's the Twitter equivalent of an Alien face-hugger. |
| 18:43.24 | durcyn | hate you a little right now haste |
| 18:43.41 | haste | I feel that hatered myself durcyn :( |
| 18:43.43 | karl_w_w | god i hope that's a troll |
| 18:45.10 | Unkle | She is a troll. She compared the Bieb to Kurt Cobain. |
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| 18:45.37 | Unkle | But she's the kind that actually believes her line of crap. Not even Fisker is that low. |
| 18:46.43 | Krapsy | is she related to the Bieb or just a psychotic fan? |
| 18:46.48 | karl_w_w | you're right, how can you compare anyone to the Bieb |
| 18:46.56 | karl_w_w | psychotic fan |
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| 18:48.42 | karl_w_w | 5-6 hours and I'm having pop tarts for the first time in probably 15 years |
| 18:49.14 | karl_w_w | never missed them, strangely looking forward to it now |
| 18:50.34 | karl_w_w | most interesting part? I don't have a toaster |
| 18:50.47 | durcyn | self delusion seems antithetical to trolling, Unkle |
| 18:51.23 | Unkle | a scan of her twitter feed shows all the signs of both delusion and trolling |
| 18:52.13 | durcyn | though it is more comforting to think it's someone fucking with me than an actual misinformed person believing what it says |
| 18:52.50 | Unkle | Delusions, they're everywhere. |
| 18:54.29 | Unkle | http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/19/us-ecuador-assange-idUSBRE85I1EI20120619 - not a delusion |
| 18:54.58 | karl_w_w | are the RMAHs for different currencies completely seperate? |
| 18:57.26 | cbreak | I can't imagine blizz wanting to deal with currency fluctiations on top of the other crap |
| 18:58.10 | karl_w_w | i dont know why they didnt just invent blizzard dollars |
| 18:58.21 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 18:58.53 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 18:59.16 | Fisker | i'm messing with apple fags |
| 18:59.23 | Fisker | i mean fans |
| 18:59.44 | Arrowmaster | karl_w_w: the status page shows them as all separate |
| 18:59.50 | nilyaK | my apple laptop wants to have sex with your apple laptop using the bluetooth connection fisker. |
| 18:59.59 | Fisker | i have no apple laptop nilyaK |
| 19:00.11 | Fisker | it was awesome |
| 19:00.16 | nilyaK | me neither, but that's no different from anyone cybering on the Internet. |
| 19:00.23 | nilyaK | now let's go. |
| 19:00.28 | Fisker | this guy claimed the new microsoft tablet was too heavy and clumsy |
| 19:00.42 | Fisker | failing to realize that he read the Surface Pro specs and not Surface specs |
| 19:00.50 | Fisker | Where they're actually pretty much the same |
| 19:01.00 | cbreak | karl_w_w: bliz dollars? and call them "Gold"? :D |
| 19:01.10 | Fisker | also lol'd @ he said flat keyboards suck |
| 19:01.25 | haste | the iPad onscreen keyboard is awesome! oh wait... |
| 19:01.30 | Fisker | ^^ haste |
| 19:01.34 | Fisker | it's not flat atleast |
| 19:01.42 | haste | THAT curve! |
| 19:02.00 | cbreak | onscreen keyboards suck |
| 19:02.01 | Fisker | maybe he broke the glass and find the finger-cutting glass better than flat keyboards |
| 19:02.07 | cbreak | but the flat apple keyboards are nice |
| 19:02.17 | cbreak | those for desktop computers |
| 19:02.27 | haste | I don't like those either |
| 19:02.38 | cbreak | (the ones in the laptops aren't bad either imho) |
| 19:02.40 | Fisker | If Microsoft can do what they claim to do with that new "no-keys" keyboard then wow |
| 19:03.08 | haste | not really picked up anything about Surface 3.0 |
| 19:03.39 | nilyaK | is it 10x faster than surface 2.1? |
| 19:04.38 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vasc8UNl_0 <-unfortunately they still ran around with an early 2000's cameraphone when they recorded it |
| 19:12.28 | pompy | http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/8068_10150955182639333_1248656839_n.jpg dafuq loll. |
| 19:14.25 | karl_w_w | no cbreak, blizz dollars :P |
| 19:14.39 | karl_w_w | they would be worth exactly 1 US dollar |
| 19:15.03 | karl_w_w | but real currencies would only be involved when putting money in or taking it out |
| 19:15.29 | karl_w_w | and i only just found out blizz takes a 15% cut on the gold AH as well |
| 19:17.11 | Krapsy | bli$$ard getting filthy rich off that fat cut |
| 19:18.02 | nilyaK | hopefully their gold sinks work better in d3 than they do in WoW. |
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| 19:24.06 | Krapsy | crafting gems is dirt cheap now though |
| 19:26.29 | Krapsy | wonder why |
| 19:27.21 | nilyaK | secret plot to reduce the gem suppy for when they release a new tier of stuff so you're old stuff is junk. |
| 19:29.34 | Arrowmaster | its rather simple, low level gems were so cheap on the AH that it was pointless to use them in crafting |
| 19:29.53 | Arrowmaster | so once you start leveling a 2nd character any gems you pickup are just AH fodder |
| 19:30.45 | Fisker | obviously karl_w_w |
| 19:30.56 | Fisker | i think they make more on the flat rate cut though |
| 19:31.09 | nilyaK | Blizzard is secretly collecting gem tribute for c'thulu. |
| 19:31.15 | Dagmar | \It could be |
| 19:31.25 | nilyaK | It IS true there is no other valid explanation. |
| 19:31.42 | Dagmar | As to why the dropped the price, did you look at what the droppable gems were costing? |
| 19:32.29 | Dagmar | You could combine three into a flawless emerald for 6600 from Covetous, or just buy a teir above that from the AH for about 4000. |
| 19:32.33 | Arrowmaster | the lowest 3 tiers were selling about 100g each last i looked |
| 19:32.39 | Dagmar | Covetous was always the more expensive option. |
| 19:32.43 | Dagmar | \...which was nuts. |
| 19:34.47 | Dagmar | I suspect much the same thing was why blacksmithing got cheaper |
| 19:35.23 | Dagmar | You could run out, collect a bunch of blue junk, come back, grind it all up, and only have gotten about 1/3 of the gold drops to turn it into more useless crap |
| 19:35.36 | Dagmar | ...which meant you always wound up with a materials surplus from hell for crafting. |
| 19:36.06 | Dagmar | Now it looks like you can at least go one round of "trying again" using the materials you just got |
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| 19:40.09 | Krapsy | so even if they dropped the gem price say 50% people would still make stuff cheaper? |
| 19:40.32 | Dagmar | I dunno. |
| 19:40.58 | Dagmar | It was deranged tho that it would be cheaper to buy a whole gem from the AH than it would be to collect the *free drops* and combine one |
| 19:41.35 | Arrowmaster | yeah the AH really fucked up their game balance |
| 19:41.35 | Dagmar | Whassit flawless square that's the largest that drops? My toons have nothing but that |
| 19:42.09 | Arrowmaster | like they said they didnt have the AH during their internal testing so everybody was using personal drops and crafted stuff |
| 19:42.18 | Dagmar | It didn't really even make sense to try to combine more fragments up, because I would have just been _wasting_ money on Shen |
| 19:42.19 | Krapsy | just saying that now its the opposite of a gold sink |
| 19:42.30 | Krapsy | not opposite |
| 19:42.35 | Krapsy | but |
| 19:42.43 | Krapsy | stuff |
| 19:42.44 | Dagmar | No, now it's a very, very light cost. |
| 19:42.48 | Arrowmaster | actually i think now its a better gold sink |
| 19:43.00 | Dagmar | I wouldn't even call it a sink, but it's at least not the stupidest way to go about it |
| 19:43.12 | Arrowmaster | before they would get 15% of the AH cost removed from the economy, now they get 100% of the crafting cost removed |
| 19:43.19 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 19:43.21 | Cairenn|afk | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuVgXJ55G6Y |
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| 19:52.38 | alestane | The more intelligent a creature is, the more easily it gets bored. |
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| 19:53.21 | nilyaK1 | what about trees? |
| 19:56.55 | ZorbaGama | Trees live in a constant state of utter excitement. |
| 19:57.26 | nilyaK1 | until they're boards. |
| 19:57.41 | Unkle | Yes, but the move slowly, so it takes them all year to jizz on my car in the spring. |
| 19:57.42 | alestane | http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CEwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fnewstopics%2Fhowaboutthat%2F3328480%2FOtto-the-octopus-wrecks-havoc.html&ei=ntjgT9SAHcfJ0QHruPCgDg&usg=AFQjCNHzTNfbFyZi5cqbDp0A1lC1qSYlgA&sig2=HTqgIFttGQBojIrsepmKPg |
| 19:57.44 | mckenziemc | ~trout nilyaK1 |
| 19:57.44 | purl | ACTION slaps nilyaK1 around a bit with a large trout! |
| 19:57.48 | alestane | Yargh. |
| 19:57.54 | alestane | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/3328480/Otto-the-octopus-wrecks-havoc.html |
| 19:57.56 | alestane | There we go. |
| 19:58.56 | mckenziemc | wrecks havoc? |
| 19:59.49 | alestane | Not all that different from wreaking it. |
| 20:03.42 | Arrowmaster | http://kotaku.com/5919684/diablo-iiis-latest-update-blocks-some-players-from-gaining-xp-fortunately-theres-an-easy-fix |
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| 20:07.16 | mikma | http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2012/06/first-look-at-angelina-jolie-as-malefice.php |
| 20:07.39 | Jamash | level 13, huh |
| 20:07.46 | Jamash | sounds like improper beta re-flagging |
| 20:13.49 | nilyaK | article title should be: Blizzard finds sneaky way of forcing users to change their passwords. |
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| 20:23.03 | Primer | speaking of level 13, my templar, once level 25 (I'm 28) is now level 13... |
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| 20:23.32 | Arrowmaster | then youve been hit by the bug |
| 20:23.42 | Arrowmaster | article says to change your password and it fixes it |
| 20:24.03 | Arrowmaster | also try dismissing and rehiring him |
| 20:24.32 | Arrowmaster | while i was leveling if my follower ever got more than 1 level below me i would just dismiss him and he would get auto leveled to my level - 1 |
| 20:24.38 | Primer | yeah, scrolled up to see the URL discussing it |
| 20:25.51 | Primer | sigh...I don't want to change the fucking password |
| 20:25.53 | Arrowmaster | i hope i dont have the issue when i login |
| 20:26.01 | Primer | re-hiring didn't do anything |
| 20:26.10 | Arrowmaster | its a bitch leveling them from 59 to 60 |
| 20:26.27 | Arrowmaster | since you cant use any of the good equipment you find for them |
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| 20:30.22 | Maldivia | just find level reduced gear :P |
| 20:30.53 | TC-Work | Level with a 60, makes it so much faster |
| 20:31.14 | Primer | Ok, changing the password worked |
| 20:31.30 | Arrowmaster | just change it back then if its annoying to change it |
| 20:31.37 | Primer | that's the plan |
| 20:33.02 | Primer | sigh, I changed the battletag and didn't like it, now I can't change it back |
| 20:33.13 | nilyaK | my school thought of that: change denied, you have use this password in the last 3 years or 50 passwords, pick another. |
| 20:33.38 | Primer | good thing battle.net doesn't enforce that |
| 20:33.45 | nilyaK | yes |
| 20:33.46 | nilyaK | well |
| 20:33.48 | nilyaK | maybe not tbh |
| 20:34.47 | Arrowmaster | i generally see that as a sign of bad password storage policy |
| 20:35.24 | nilyaK | probably. |
| 20:35.31 | Arrowmaster | since the only proper way to do that would be really complex and take a lot of time to check all the old passwords when changing it |
| 20:35.45 | Primer | probably the salt doesn't change |
| 20:35.57 | Primer | presuming salt is being used at all... |
| 20:36.05 | nilyaK | god I'd hope so. |
| 20:36.13 | Arrowmaster | well it means they arent doing multiple passes oh hashing |
| 20:36.24 | Primer | In light of recent events... |
| 20:37.12 | Primer | well, md5 crypt saves the salt regardless |
| 20:37.34 | Primer | or something |
| 20:37.42 | Arrowmaster | so either the salt says the same everytime you change the password or they arent using multiple passes, because both combined in a proper system would take at least 10 seconds to check 50 previous hashes |
| 20:38.08 | Primer | what do you mean by multiple passes? |
| 20:38.11 | nilyaK | that being said it takes quite awhile to change the passwords |
| 20:38.35 | nilyaK | hash(hash(password + salt) + salt) I'd assume |
| 20:38.42 | Dagmar | WTF are you using to compute hashes? |
| 20:38.46 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 20:38.53 | Dagmar | I used to burn 10,000 a second on a 333Mhz machine |
| 20:38.53 | Arrowmaster | but do it at least 1000 times |
| 20:39.40 | Primer | that seems incredibly excessive |
| 20:39.50 | Jamash | nah |
| 20:40.02 | Shadowed | If you're going to use SHA1 or MD5, you have to do it something excessive like that |
| 20:40.03 | Arrowmaster | the point is to slow down bruteforcing of a stolen database |
| 20:40.03 | Dagmar | No, most hashes to a lot of passes internally, but you don't have to invoke them 1,000 times in a row. |
| 20:40.03 | Jamash | 10,000,000 is about right for modern machines |
| 20:40.08 | Primer | unless you're using some crappy old algorithm |
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| 20:40.30 | nilyaK1 | and, IP lease up. |
| 20:40.30 | Jamash | what Arrowmaster said |
| 20:40.37 | nilyaK1 | but I missed it! |
| 20:40.40 | nilyaK1 | that's no fair |
| 20:40.50 | Dagmar | I have a digital watch probably capable of managing more than 5 hashes a second |
| 20:42.16 | nilyaK1 | =/ |
| 20:42.40 | Jamash | by using many repeated hashing rounds (and increasing the number of rounds every few years) you maintain a constant amount of CPU time necessary to brute force your password |
| 20:42.56 | Shadowed | (except, you should just use something like scrypt or bcrypt) |
| 20:42.58 | Jamash | if you just use one round it takes less and less time as computers get faster and faster |
| 20:43.03 | Dagmar | Economy of scale blows that plan out of the water |
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| 20:43.55 | nilyaK1 | isn't the real issue people picking weak passwords and not brute forcing them? wouldn't it be easier to force frequentish password changes? |
| 20:44.03 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 20:44.03 | Shadowed | no |
| 20:44.11 | Primer | Maybe. |
| 20:44.15 | Dagmar | Keeping the ciphertext secret being very important as well |
| 20:44.24 | Arrowmaster | nilyaK1: salting helps to combat weak passwords |
| 20:44.25 | Dagmar | People pick shitty passwords. |
| 20:44.37 | Dagmar | Not only do they pick shitty passwords, they reuse them outside of their original scope. |
| 20:44.38 | Shadowed | If you pick a 16 character password, and you're just using straight MD5, you're still going to be screwed |
| 20:44.47 | Shadowed | if you salt it, it makes it slightly harder since it's now 16 character + salt |
| 20:45.01 | Shadowed | if you use something that slows it down (scrypt/bcrypt/multiple passes) + salting, it makes it much much harder |
| 20:45.06 | Dagmar | No one's to my knowledge made publicly available 16-character rainbow tables. |
| 20:45.19 | Dagmar | Those only go as far as 12, for a fee. 8 for free. |
| 20:45.41 | Primer | http://xkcd.com/936/ |
| 20:45.42 | Dagmar | Brute forcing a 16-character password is still going to suck up quite a bit of time |
| 20:45.44 | Primer | is where it's at |
| 20:45.45 | Arrowmaster | like from the linkedin breach, since they werent salted the first thing to do is look for the hashes that appear the most and run those through rainbow tables/bruteforce and youve gotten more accounts for the effort of one |
| 20:45.49 | Shadowed | it is |
| 20:45.59 | nilyaK1 | battle.net limits you to 16 characters for wow accs I think, 12 for classic |
| 20:46.02 | Shadowed | But compared to trivial things you can do to take it from quite a bit of time to (nearly) impossible |
| 20:46.02 | Dagmar | Easier to just raid some gaming website and steal their password list, which is probably unsalted. |
| 20:46.31 | Dagmar | ...or compromise some gaming site and have the unencrypted passwords shipped out to you via covert channel. |
| 20:46.48 | Dagmar | ...because of how many people will still insist on using the same password for the game as they do the fansite. |
| 20:47.00 | Dagmar | ...and their Facebook, and their Myspace, and their Hotmail. |
| 20:47.31 | Mr_Rabies | it's so hard to remember them otherwise :| i'm guilty of that |
| 20:47.40 | Jamash | have fun guessing }x"{+P@s25;']_oB |
| 20:47.44 | Mr_Rabies | at least until my gmail and wow account were hacked last january |
| 20:47.45 | Dagmar | Targeting a single user is a bitch. Shotgunning 10,000 users on the other hand virtually guarantees at least 100 of them have incredibly stupid passwords. |
| 20:47.48 | Jamash | I use random passwords |
| 20:47.59 | Mr_Rabies | do you store them on lastpass or something? |
| 20:48.03 | Jamash | keepass2 |
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| 20:48.20 | Dagmar | Jamash: That program would be awesome if he could sync all the fuckin versions up |
| 20:48.29 | Jamash | I store my db in dropbox |
| 20:48.33 | Primer | Jamash: then you should definitely see http://xkcd.com/936/ |
| 20:48.41 | Jamash | seen it |
| 20:48.50 | nilyaK1 | more like 5000, but yea |
| 20:49.09 | Primer | it's funny and makes incredible sense |
| 20:49.14 | Dagmar | nilyaK1: I say 100 because it keeps me from buying a gun. |
| 20:49.17 | Jamash | my keepass db password is 30-ish characters long |
| 20:49.33 | Jamash | and is hashed 10M times |
| 20:50.00 | Jamash | Dagmar: sync what up? |
| 20:50.08 | nilyaK1 | exactly 10M? |
| 20:50.08 | nilyaK1 | :P |
| 20:50.10 | Jamash | yes |
| 20:50.32 | Arrowmaster | do you really need a firefox addon to put the url in the title bar to make keepass work? |
| 20:50.37 | Jamash | no |
| 20:50.43 | Dagmar | Jamash: If you're using it on multiple devices like i am, you learn real quick that some versions read only the 1.x format, some only read the 2.x format, a few can read both but one in a read-only capacity. |
| 20:50.52 | Dagmar | It makes it annoying. |
| 20:50.55 | Jamash | Dagmar: Ah, I just use it on windows and linux |
| 20:51.08 | Dagmar | Yeah I'm using it on Windows, Linux, Android, and was using it on Palm. |
| 20:51.16 | Jamash | what is this "palm" of which you speak |
| 20:51.28 | Dagmar | Dropbox and Google Drive can synch it, but they can't all read the same db |
| 20:51.46 | Dagmar | Jamash: A masochistic phone operating system from the last decade. |
| 20:52.05 | Primer | webos wasn't actually that bad |
| 20:52.08 | nilyaK1 | I just don't see the need to increase the difficulty at brute forcing a password to such an extreme when the real issues are I can call people like my mother and be like hi I work for verizon and need to know your email password |
| 20:52.11 | Dagmar | WebOS was fine. |
| 20:52.24 | Dagmar | PalmOS being converted to WM on the other hand, was shit. |
| 20:52.30 | Primer | The biggest mistake webos made was getting bought by HP |
| 20:52.32 | nilyaK1 | maybe I'm just crazy =/ |
| 20:53.04 | Dagmar | nilyaK1: You don't really need to worry that much about brute-forcing unless you're worrying about a targeted attack on your password |
| 20:53.20 | Dagmar | ...and at this point, honestly, go fucking two-factor already. |
| 20:53.33 | nilyaK1 | I agree there, but I'm trying to understand why I would be |
| 20:53.39 | Dagmar | There's too much CPU power for any salted secret to stay hidden for more than a month. |
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| 20:54.00 | nilyaK1 | even if I were exceptionally rich, it would seem more effective to go after the low hanging fruit were I to try to go after passwords for anything |
| 20:54.08 | Gnarfoz | not really, see above: scrypt, bcrypt |
| 20:54.24 | Unkle | You know how we could get 2-factor authentication accepted by nearly every male person on the planet? Make the 2nd factor something they insert a dick into. |
| 20:54.29 | Dagmar | Making each attempt take longer isn't really a fix. |
| 20:54.36 | Dagmar | It's just duct tape. |
| 20:54.39 | Gnarfoz | there is no fix |
| 20:54.46 | Dagmar | hence, two-factor. |
| 20:54.59 | Dagmar | Particularly using something that can keep a salted secret, secret. |
| 20:55.18 | Dagmar | ...or if the patent trolls will get out of the way, biometrics. |
| 20:55.20 | nilyaK1 | you know how you could give STIs to every person on the planet: that, people share their passwords... |
| 20:55.44 | Jamash | public key? |
| 20:56.05 | Gnarfoz | what good is a key if it's public, mate?! :D |
| 20:56.09 | Gnarfoz | (...) |
| 20:56.11 | nilyaK1 | :P |
| 20:56.19 | Jamash | ~trout Garfoz |
| 20:56.19 | purl | ACTION slaps Garfoz around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:56.27 | Gnarfoz | ~whaleparry |
| 20:56.28 | nilyaK1 | if it's only one way (See: PGP) |
| 20:56.41 | nilyaK1 | though I'd imagine that wasn't a serious question |
| 20:56.46 | Gnarfoz | poor purl has memory loss |
| 20:56.49 | Primer | I'd rather see gpg |
| 20:56.52 | Jamash | ~whalefart |
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| 20:57.09 | nilyaK1 | I thought gpg was just a specific implementation. |
| 20:57.15 | Gnarfoz | and so it is |
| 20:57.35 | nilyaK1 | oh god i've been stuck in an endless imgur loop |
| 20:57.43 | Gnarfoz | doesn't really matter what label's on it, that's only relevant for tin-foil hatters |
| 20:57.48 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
| 20:57.51 | Fisker | not so hey Jamash |
| 20:57.58 | Gnarfoz | I've been abducted by aliens, Fisker |
| 20:58.07 | nilyaK1 | idk it's interesting stuff, and the signatures are useful |
| 20:58.12 | Jamash | from zeta reticuli or mexico? |
| 20:58.26 | Primer | it was Xenu |
| 20:58.36 | Fisker | oh ok Gnarfoz |
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| 20:58.39 | Primer | accompanied by L. Ron Hubbard |
| 20:58.46 | Fisker | should i kill you Gnarfoz ? |
| 20:58.52 | Gnarfoz | you already did |
| 20:58.58 | Jamash | Are you duke nukem, Fisker? |
| 20:58.59 | Gnarfoz | didn't stop them |
| 20:59.24 | Fisker | yes Jamash |
| 20:59.36 | Unkle | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/linus-torvalds-says-f-k-you-to-nvidia/ |
| 20:59.41 | Jamash | I hear you once were in good games |
| 20:59.49 | Primer | old |
| 21:00.13 | Fisker | old Unkle |
| 21:00.44 | Arrowmaster | are there any linux apps like this? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dk.tacit.android.foldersync.full |
| 21:00.57 | Arrowmaster | that provide syncing to multiple services |
| 21:01.06 | nilyaK1 | I'd like to understand better about the username/password design, people seem to think they can just give out usernames and companies display them publicly quite often, I don't really understand why, they even tell you if a username is in-use or not when you try to login. |
| 21:01.09 | Primer | rsync? |
| 21:01.10 | Primer | heh |
| 21:01.30 | nilyaK1 | is there a reason the username is generally understood to be a less important half of the login credentials? |
| 21:01.56 | Primer | Arrowmaster: I ran into this the other day, but I doubt there's anything for android: http://code.google.com/p/lsyncd/ |
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| 21:02.05 | Primer | well, anything with a UI |
| 21:02.24 | Primer | it's written in Lua, no less! |
| 21:02.40 | nilyaK1 | pause that thought, gotta get out of this cafe, it's giving me a headache. |
| 21:02.44 | Fisker | because it's only a identifier to figure out who is logging in nilyaK1 |
| 21:02.49 | Primer | err, well, maybe not |
| 21:02.52 | Arrowmaster | i ment more for being able to sync to dropbox, box, gdrive, etc |
| 21:03.00 | Fisker | And since they're both something the user know it doesn't add depth to the security |
| 21:03.35 | cbreak | nilyaK1: usernames are unique, so you have to know if one is taken when you sign up |
| 21:03.56 | cbreak | in general it's not a good idea to tell someone wether the username or the password is wrong when logging in though |
| 21:05.04 | nilyaK1 | right but in theory they could say not enforce unique usernames and just enforce the username/password pair to be unique, this would potentially create more risk if the attacker knew your username and it were common, but getting a conflicting pair with somebody else is hardly a problem since you can login with that anyway |
| 21:05.14 | nilyaK1 | and trying logins blindly is the same thing |
| 21:05.19 | nilyaK1 | idk it's prob a bad idea I just wanted to know why |
| 21:05.54 | nilyaK1 | (and I understand at that point why have passwords at all why not just have silly random usernames |
| 21:05.56 | nilyaK1 | ) |
| 21:05.57 | nilyaK1 | but yea |
| 21:06.39 | nilyaK1 | I really do have to go though so somebody please explain it to me if you know when I return later |
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| 21:12.41 | Arrowmaster | what the hell |
| 21:13.06 | Arrowmaster | i just tried starting d3 and my 2nd monitor turned on and now my desktop is split |
| 21:13.35 | Arrowmaster | ok seriously what the fuck, now only my 2nd monitor is on and my primary turned off |
| 21:13.42 | Arrowmaster | fucking nvidia drivers |
| 21:15.40 | Fisker | mad Arrowmaster ? |
| 21:15.45 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 21:15.50 | Fisker | good |
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| 21:16.54 | Arrowmaster | nvidia seriously broke something |
| 21:19.37 | Mr_Rabies | diablo does some interesting things with video cards |
| 21:19.51 | Mr_Rabies | for example, when i close the game sometimes my gamma is dropped to incredibly dark in windows |
| 21:20.05 | Mr_Rabies | until i go into the nvidia settings and tell it to not let applications control gamma |
| 21:26.01 | Kraps | why do i have to keep allowing a windows firewall exception for the launcher every time theres an update? |
| 21:26.16 | Arrowmaster | because its a new exe |
| 21:26.52 | Mr_Rabies | it's a security feature to keep applications from replacing others to take advantage of being whitelisted on the firewall |
| 21:27.47 | Arrowmaster | if anybody at microsoft actually had a brain they could check the digital signature on the exe |
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| 21:54.34 | Unkle | So Ackis, MoP beta pet journal lists 500 possible pets. How's you collection itch feeling? |
| 21:57.55 | nevcairiel | Blizzard is weird, they put out a post about 1.0.3 being available in europe, while it clearly is not until after the maintenance which starts in 3 hours |
| 21:58.11 | nevcairiel | but apparently they deleted the post =p |
| 22:03.52 | foxlit | nevcairiel: there's likely a mechanism that allows specific posts to appear at specific times. |
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| 22:04.56 | Mr_Rabies | blog posts definitely can be set to appear at a later time |
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| 22:22.06 | Kaylin | back |
| 22:23.50 | Kaylin | it made me pick a random server when I logged in, picked one I have like level 1 alts on to talk to friends pre-RealID one is named badcowpun, it's a tauren druid. |
| 22:24.42 | Ackis | Unkle: I'm almost half way there already :D |
| 22:24.57 | Unkle | I:D |
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| 23:24.51 | kd3 | ugh for getting a call at 12:45 "kd3, your shift started at 10:30. is everything alright?" |
| 23:42.21 | Arrowmaster | oversleep or were you never told about your shift? |
| 23:45.52 | Kraps | why did i spend my gold upgrading the blacksmith |
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| 23:59.49 | cogwheel | http://www.spoj.pl/problems/HOTLINE/ |
| 23:59.54 | cogwheel | The intro to this problem makes it seem much harder than it actually is... I thought to myself "They want me to write Watson?" |
