| 00:00.58 | Arrowmaster | it shouldnt be |
| 00:02.03 | Aelo | actually, looks like it was something to do with the text format on the lua file i was editting :S |
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| 00:07.42 | pompy | TC-Work: yes true |
| 00:08.27 | Aelo | thanks a lot for all the help - the different text encoding was driving me crazy (and still is in a way lol) |
| 00:09.36 | pompy | http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/537756_450373441659326_455789035_n.jpg |
| 00:33.02 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: where is a good place to keep track of xbox game sales? |
| 00:34.51 | pompy | TC-Work: http://www.collectorz.com/game/ not freeware lol |
| 00:35.23 | TC-Work | pompy: sales....as in to buy them |
| 00:35.39 | pompy | oh |
| 00:36.09 | pompy | TC-Work: http://www.vgchartz.com/ |
| 00:37.29 | pompy | http://www.vgchartz.com/pro/ |
| 00:37.31 | pompy | "VGChartz Pro is still in development and is due to release in December 2011. " |
| 00:37.37 | pompy | oh really |
| 00:40.19 | TC-Work | pompy: and where am i supposed to be looking for sales on that site? |
| 00:40.31 | TC-Work | oh...i see the confusion |
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| 00:40.37 | TC-Work | i meant a discount on price |
| 00:40.46 | TC-Work | i really hope i am being trolled |
| 00:41.28 | pompy | in that case http://www.techbargains.com/product/xbox_360 |
| 00:43.18 | pompy | that should do it TC-Work |
| 00:47.51 | pompy | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150932439474333&set=a.415115129332.190512.84395074332&type=1 shiny |
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| 00:52.38 | Arrowmaster | TC-Work: i just watch my amazon wishlist, read the kotaku moneysaver articles everytime they pop up and sometimes browse cheapassgamers.com |
| 00:59.10 | Arrowmaster | TC-Work: http://local.amazon.com/central-jersey/B0089PRVI2?src=email&cid=em_dd_077_101_na_s1_d1&ref_=pe_175500_24357680 |
| 01:04.07 | Arrowmaster | http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/06/08/496592/new-data-66-million-young-adults-insured-thanks-to-obamacare/ |
| 01:04.16 | Arrowmaster | my coverage runs out at the end of the month :( |
| 01:05.15 | Arrowmaster | and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomoxetine is expensive |
| 01:18.49 | pompy | Arrowmaster: central jersey? |
| 01:18.55 | pompy | are u stalking me? |
| 01:19.04 | Arrowmaster | no that was the link from cheapassgamers |
| 01:19.41 | Arrowmaster | ive already got too many subs for it to be any use to me |
| 01:19.51 | pompy | never heard of CAG |
| 01:20.16 | Arrowmaster | in july my $29.99 for 12 months from the halo reach special is supposed to finally be applied, and i have another 12 month card to use after that |
| 01:21.50 | TC-Work | pompy: you are in jersey? That explains quite a bit. |
| 01:22.37 | pompy | yeah and hmm? |
| 01:25.23 | TC-Work | I'm not explaining |
| 01:33.59 | Sintacks | interesting that they are completely removing a zone from the Beta realms to work on it... |
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| 01:59.29 | kd3 | whuh? |
| 02:01.49 | kd3 | oh wow |
| 02:01.56 | bluspacecow | oh rly |
| 02:02.07 | kd3 | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5590648487#1 |
| 02:02.50 | bluspacecow | ya rly |
| 02:07.39 | kd3 | this hasn't ever happened before to the best of my memory |
| 02:07.59 | kd3 | I wonder if my annoyed emails to a few quest designers had something to do with it? |
| 02:08.02 | kd3 | >.> |
| 02:09.08 | TC-Work | i hope not |
| 02:09.36 | kd3 | indeed |
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| 02:30.39 | bluspacecow | are there issues with the AH atm ? just got disconnected with a input limit error |
| 02:33.26 | TC-Work | D3? |
| 02:33.38 | bluspacecow | yeah D3 sorry |
| 02:33.42 | bluspacecow | seems to be going okay now |
| 02:33.47 | TC-Work | I thought it was still offline |
| 02:34.02 | bluspacecow | *pokerface* |
| 02:34.56 | TC-Work | oh, nvm me |
| 02:35.13 | TC-Work | my guess is that it is enabled but not sta ble |
| 02:35.15 | TC-Work | stable* |
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| 03:29.22 | mckenziemc | not unlike TC-Work's mental state? |
| 03:33.13 | pompy | kd3 you are the next cogwheel |
| 03:33.38 | kd3 | I'm not sure if I should be pleased or pissed at that comparison |
| 03:33.40 | kd3 | >.> |
| 03:34.24 | pompy | :(.. just referring to doing something that may have 'pissed' blizzard off! |
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| 03:36.31 | pompy | kd3: does some type of bot do the API function pages on wowpedia or are they manually done? |
| 03:36.42 | kd3 | manually, generally |
| 03:36.51 | pompy | kk, probably gunna fix one |
| 03:37.02 | kd3 | by all means, it's a wiki after all. ;) |
| 03:42.38 | mckenziemc | overwrites pompy. |
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| 03:46.54 | pompy | TC-Work: was the techbargains one, the one you were looking for? |
| 03:47.34 | randomDude | no these are not the bargains you are looking for |
| 03:48.41 | pompy | ~lart randomDude |
| 03:48.41 | purl | beats randomDude to within 2.54cm of his life |
| 03:55.52 | TC-Work | pompy: something like that yes |
| 03:56.23 | pompy | kk |
| 03:56.58 | pompy | have you ever been to NJ? and if it's about the governor.. then yeah yeah. |
| 03:57.21 | TC-Work | Yes, i have been there. No it is not about sluts. |
| 03:59.27 | pompy | :O |
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| 05:42.34 | randomDude | mannnn those white girls in the library |
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| 05:53.28 | Sintacks | http://puu.sh/zIMm my bank's a mess ... |
| 05:56.51 | karl_w_w | and there's so little stuff in it |
| 05:57.18 | karl_w_w | what u need is to auto arrange |
| 05:57.29 | karl_w_w | i assume whatever bag mod that is does that |
| 05:58.05 | bluipodcow | Lol bank stack |
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| 07:04.12 | AcidWeb | "Blizzard will now require all users to have an authenticator to use battle.net balance and the RMAH." |
| 07:04.24 | AcidWeb | So there was somebody without authenticator? ;p |
| 07:04.55 | bluipodcow | Latex |
| 07:05.03 | bluipodcow | Wot |
| 07:05.21 | bluipodcow | Damn you autocorrect ! |
| 07:05.32 | bluipodcow | Lolz |
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| 07:21.27 | karl_w_w | blu obviously uses the word latex a lot |
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| 07:25.51 | bluipodcow | Lol |
| 07:28.16 | Humbedooh | blulatexcow :o |
| 07:38.47 | Fisker | Adys depends on the card |
| 07:38.52 | Fisker | if it's reference it doesn't really matter |
| 07:38.58 | Fisker | but if it's not, go Asus or MSI |
| 07:39.19 | Fisker | also i would never facebook pompy |
| 07:40.53 | pompy | sure |
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| 07:45.07 | Fisker | never pompy |
| 07:47.22 | karl_w_w | Fisker is mists out yet? |
| 07:49.20 | bluipodcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:49.40 | bluipodcow | And thought fisker was having a sex change |
| 07:50.24 | karl_w_w | he is but we dont discuss it |
| 07:50.49 | randomDude | karl_w_w: go on |
| 07:52.10 | karl_w_w | go on what? |
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| 07:52.14 | karl_w_w | wheel of fortune? |
| 07:52.44 | randomDude | isn't that like... what old people do ? |
| 07:52.49 | randomDude | you know like |
| 07:52.59 | randomDude | nearly dead people |
| 07:53.00 | Kaylin | aren't nicks case insensitive? I'm not sure why the server feels the need to inform us of this. |
| 07:53.23 | bluipodcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:53.25 | randomDude | KAYLIN, would you like to test that theory? |
| 07:53.47 | Kaylin | sure lemme load up another client |
| 07:53.51 | mikma | kayLin: lol |
| 07:54.43 | karl_w_w | no they arent |
| 07:54.45 | karl_w_w | watch |
| 07:54.56 | karl_w_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:55.02 | randomDude | mad? |
| 07:55.17 | bluipodcow | Nope.jpg |
| 07:55.38 | randomDude | i thought you were bluasploidcow then |
| 07:55.41 | Kaylin | (12:55:08 AM) karl_w_w: hai |
| 07:56.34 | Kaylin | so clearly Kaylin and kaylin are the same nick as far as the server is concerned. |
| 07:56.41 | Torhal | bluipodcow: Shit. Invasion of the pod cows. |
| 07:58.15 | Kaylin | perhaps it informs us of the nickname spelling change so we can all see him in the spelling he wants to be seen. |
| 07:58.30 | Kaylin | sorry the colors are like starting to swirl |
| 08:00.52 | bluipodcow | Wot drugs u on lol |
| 08:05.09 | randomDude | clearly better ones than you |
| 08:05.43 | bluipodcow | :( |
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| 08:14.19 | Kaylin | fears. |
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| 08:19.03 | karl_w_w | uses will of the forsaken. |
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| 09:06.10 | Torhal | doses bluipodcow with LSD and psilocybin. |
| 09:06.34 | bluipodcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:07.47 | Torhal | clothes bluipodcow in spandex. |
| 09:10.24 | bluipodcow | Haet |
| 09:10.34 | bluipodcow | Hawt |
| 09:10.50 | bluipodcow | iPod y u haet ? |
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| 09:52.18 | karl_w_w | http://www.lamebook.com/all-right/all-right/ |
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| 10:10.30 | bluipodcow | Lol |
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| 10:18.32 | randomDude | lawl |
| 10:18.43 | randomDude | ninja zombies on imdb get 8/10 |
| 10:18.48 | randomDude | what the actual |
| 10:19.20 | randomDude | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1880293/ |
| 10:20.50 | bluipodcow | 23 votes |
| 10:20.58 | randomDude | looks like 23 people helped one guy buy a macbook pro |
| 10:21.10 | randomDude | with after affects |
| 10:23.58 | bluipodcow | Yup |
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| 11:04.38 | randomDude | so bluipodcow, how does the reality distortion field affect your life ? |
| 11:05.45 | randomDude | do you have to medicate yourself to supress the almost bipolar urges to proclaim yourself a graphic designer or someone who knows how good design works? |
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| 11:07.54 | bluipodcow | Me? |
| 11:08.01 | bluipodcow | A designer? |
| 11:08.08 | bluipodcow | Hasgahahaga |
| 11:09.06 | randomDude | so what drugs do you take to nulify the reality distortion field generator that every apple product contains? |
| 11:12.09 | bluipodcow | Idunnolol.jpg |
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| 11:22.47 | Torhal | Awrite. Just got my NAS to serve as a Time Machine backup. |
| 11:22.58 | randomDude | pfff |
| 11:23.14 | randomDude | i've been doing that since 1982 |
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| 11:23.22 | Torhal | Good for you? |
| 11:23.54 | randomDude | it might be |
| 11:24.00 | Torhal | wonders who the fuck this person is who seemingly insults everyone. |
| 11:24.16 | Torhal | Meh. More D3. |
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| 11:56.33 | Stanzilla | hugs Torhal |
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| 12:58.05 | bluspacecow | 14.5 GB / 18.9 GB |
| 12:58.14 | bluspacecow | PTR update 4.3.4 - ?? |
| 12:58.35 | bluspacecow | 5.0 Migration Data |
| 13:02.11 | bluspacecow | http://ak.worldofwarcraft.com.edgesuite.net/wow-pod/public-test/15050.direct/Temp/5.0Migration-data/MigrationContent_1.MPQ |
| 13:02.14 | bluspacecow | http://ak.worldofwarcraft.com.edgesuite.net/wow-pod/public-test/15050.direct/Temp/5.0Migration-data/MigrationContent_2.MPQ |
| 13:02.38 | bluspacecow | if anyones interested in downloading with something other then the Blizzard Downloader. |
| 13:02.54 | Torhal | migrates bluspacecow to Antarctica. |
| 13:05.48 | bluspacecow | noooo is cold down there |
| 13:05.52 | bluspacecow | L( |
| 13:05.55 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 13:10.32 | Torhal | It's for "research" purposes, though! |
| 13:14.39 | bluspacecow | *is sent down there* |
| 13:14.44 | bluspacecow | *calls Torhal up* |
| 13:14.56 | bluspacecow | ITS FRIGGIN COLD CAN I GO SOMEWHERE WARM NOW? |
| 13:15.15 | Torhal | Sure. Whenever you find enough trees to build a boat. |
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| 13:20.42 | karl_w_w | sends bluspacecow some ice cream |
| 13:20.53 | bluspacecow | om nom nom nom nom nom |
| 13:32.15 | bluspacecow | Has anyone yet encountered a good site for looking up how much D3 items are selling for on the AH ? |
| 13:32.39 | Alram | yeah bluspacecow |
| 13:32.41 | Alram | thats pretty old though |
| 13:33.07 | Fisker | so old bluspacecow |
| 13:34.25 | karl_w_w | how would that even be possible blufailwhale |
| 13:34.58 | bluspacecow | idunnolol |
| 13:35.33 | karl_w_w | i bet u dont |
| 13:42.06 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 13:59.54 | harl | hello |
| 14:00.03 | mckenziemc | harllo |
| 14:00.44 | bluspacecow | hihihihihi |
| 14:00.47 | Ackis | where do I find the list of what occurs first when you login/reloadui (e.g. onenable, oninit, pew, etc) |
| 14:01.13 | Ackis | and on an unrelated note, I fell down the stairs this morning |
| 14:03.15 | mckenziemc | :( |
| 14:03.23 | mckenziemc | ~smackis |
| 14:03.23 | purl | ACTION smacks Ackis. |
| 14:03.31 | Stanzilla | Ackis: did you bounce? |
| 14:03.46 | mckenziemc | no, he didn't roll pandaren : / |
| 14:04.02 | bluspacecow | *bounces ackis down the stairs* |
| 14:04.35 | Ackis | I had a big fat cat in my arms he wasn't too happy with me |
| 14:04.48 | Ackis | this is what happens when you do stairs under the influence of sleeping pills |
| 14:11.23 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 14:12.08 | mckenziemc | gives Ackis a ticket for walking under the influence |
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| 14:58.34 | Fisker | YEEEEEEEEEEEES bluspacecow |
| 14:58.42 | Fisker | another "I think i know how the internet works"-guy |
| 14:58.46 | bluspacecow | Oh hai |
| 14:58.49 | bluspacecow | lol wot |
| 14:59.35 | Fisker | someone said that server lag could be caused by the intermediary servers (or hops if you will) that blizzard had no control over |
| 14:59.39 | Fisker | this is beautiful |
| 14:59.52 | Fisker | <<<<<<Father was a BT Technical Officer Grade 1 |
| 14:59.52 | Fisker | [One of the Guys that made the internet possible with the work he did on fibre optics and all that jazz] |
| 14:59.52 | Fisker | So I think I knbow how the Internet works and I can safely say that iof Blizzard are using servers that dont belong to them then..... They need top rethink bringing out anymore expansions until these servers can cope with the demands on them |
| 14:59.55 | Fisker | So |
| 15:00.01 | Fisker | his father dug down fiber optic cables |
| 15:00.05 | Fisker | so he knows how the internet works |
| 15:00.36 | Fisker | and it's obviously unacceptable that Blizzard have hops outside their control when i pay to play this game |
| 15:00.53 | Fisker | If Blizzard wants to provide a service, they better own the entire fucking internet |
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| 15:11.43 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 15:11.44 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/FwERS.png |
| 15:11.45 | Fisker | get it? |
| 15:12.04 | bluspacecow | oh snap |
| 15:12.39 | bluspacecow | BBL gym tiems |
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| 15:15.17 | Arrowmaster | i cant resume my game in d3 |
| 15:15.31 | Fisker | sucks to be you Arrowmaster |
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| 15:39.43 | Stanzilla | did you guys know that |
| 15:39.52 | Stanzilla | you can skip the rez CD in d3 by changing your windows clock? |
| 15:41.47 | Stanzilla | and you can cancel auctions if you set the time back |
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| 15:56.46 | Maldivia | lol |
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| 16:17.51 | karl_w_w | 5/8H random trade pug |
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| 16:35.02 | haste | Fisker: father was a, therefor I know! |
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| 17:02.35 | ccox | "much anticipated Diablo 3"... only because it takes 10 minutes to launch and log into the blasted game... |
| 17:04.10 | foxlit | 15 seconds. |
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| 17:26.04 | H7801 | I hope I've got the right channel for this. I want to mod WoW so that enemies won't attack me so that I can just explore the world freely. |
| 17:26.46 | kd3 | nope, we can't do that with the tools blizz gives us |
| 17:27.03 | kd3 | we can mod the interface, not the actual game itself |
| 17:27.48 | H7801 | it IS possible to mod WoW though, right? I've played on servers that have changed the XP rewards. |
| 17:28.03 | kd3 | those are private servers, which run against the terms of service of blizz |
| 17:28.07 | kd3 | we don't support those in here |
| 17:28.32 | H7801 | oh, gotcha. Didn't realize those weren't Blizzard endorsed. |
| 17:28.46 | kd3 | yup |
| 17:29.05 | H7801 | thanks for the quick answers. I'll have to try another game for my exploring needs. |
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| 18:36.27 | pompy | http://www.docstoc.com/docs/16751295/Armory-Extension-WoW-AddOn-Entity-Relationship-Diagram |
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| 18:39.49 | foxlit | pompy: loading spinner and nothing else |
| 18:40.01 | foxlit | "Log in with Facebook". Fuck you too, website. |
| 18:40.22 | bluspacecow | hey that's new |
| 18:40.38 | bluspacecow | friend request from an obvious gold spammer :O |
| 18:40.41 | bluspacecow | on D3 |
| 18:40.46 | mikma | neat |
| 18:40.50 | mikma | ask for free bits |
| 18:40.53 | bluspacecow | i feel special |
| 18:40.56 | pompy | foxlit: its pdf |
| 18:40.57 | bluspacecow | thepcial |
| 18:40.58 | pompy | i think |
| 18:41.07 | foxlit | pompy: so link the pdf? |
| 18:42.11 | pompy | oh it uses flash |
| 18:42.15 | pompy | thats why u cant see it i guess |
| 18:42.27 | mckenziemc | this popup is cute |
| 18:42.37 | mckenziemc | an ad that's a 403 |
| 18:43.07 | Kaylin | forbidden! |
| 18:43.25 | bluspacecow | L2flashadspam noob i say to it |
| 18:43.52 | Kaylin | which substatus is it? |
| 18:43.55 | pompy | foxlit: i jus took a screenshot lol.. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35894760/erd.JPG |
| 18:44.01 | pompy | the diagram is ferom 2009 |
| 18:46.11 | pompy | ohh Riot .. |
| 18:46.12 | pompy | http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=724516 |
| 18:48.52 | Dagmar | I can't even be bothered to care anymore |
| 18:49.02 | Dagmar | No one ever store the shit properly because keeping it secure would be "hard" |
| 18:49.41 | Dagmar | It's always left up to some fucktarded Oracle DBA who will never be held responsible for the shit-fest of a storage mechanism they architected |
| 18:50.06 | foxlit | should clearly fix it on SQL level |
| 18:50.13 | Dagmar | Case in point: LinkedIn and _non-salted_ passwords |
| 18:50.39 | Dagmar | A network claiming to be for professionals shouldn't do a shittier job than open source "amatuer" projects |
| 18:50.58 | Dagmar | foxlit: They should fix it by not storing everything in one fucking place for easy compromise |
| 18:51.05 | Dagmar | ...but they almost always do. |
| 18:51.42 | Dagmar | Clearly, sticking with a master UID and spinning up other VMs with smaller databases on disparate network segments that can only access the things they need to is just too much fucking work apparently. |
| 18:53.12 | Dagmar | Considering how easily one can partition network segments nowadays, it's just ridiculous |
| 18:53.13 | foxlit | If you can't keep one server secure, we have total confidence in you keeping several. |
| 18:54.05 | Dagmar | It's not a matter of that. It's generally a matter of one mechanism is all that ever seems to need to be compromised |
| 18:54.40 | Dagmar | If the shit were on different segments and used different credentials for each segment, then it would be a matter of compromising the one damn DB connection and gaining access to everything |
| 18:55.57 | Dagmar | I've done too many audits to ever be nice to any client about this again |
| 18:56.14 | Dagmar | It'a almost universally a half-assed job where no one bothered to actually build the network in a secure manner to begin with |
| 18:57.28 | Dagmar | ABout the only good thing I can say about Riot is that at least they had the sense (apparently) to keep their damn billing information separate |
| 18:57.42 | pompy | "Please use a good password. We compared encrypted password hashes and discovered that 11 passwords were shared by over 10,000 players each. A double-digit percentage of individuals had the same password as at least one other person" |
| 18:57.59 | Dagmar | THat's common |
| 18:58.04 | mckenziemc | pompy: bird is the word |
| 18:58.13 | pompy | ~lart mckenziemc |
| 18:58.13 | purl | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets mckenziemc feel it |
| 18:58.18 | Dagmar | However, it's also a sign they didn't fucking salt the things |
| 18:58.44 | Dagmar | ...which is mentioned in literally every document explaining how to use one-way hashes for an auth mechanism, as well as why. |
| 18:59.03 | Arrowmaster | bcrypt! do you use it motherfuckers! |
| 18:59.21 | Dagmar | lol |
| 19:01.02 | Kaylin | as an aside, despite that it would be difficult with salting, what sorts of disadvantages would come from forcing unique passwords like is done with account names? |
| 19:01.22 | Dagmar | Trying to figure out if the password is unique |
| 19:01.34 | Kaylin | right that's the salting issue |
| 19:01.36 | Dagmar | ...because all the others are in theory, encrypted effectively |
| 19:01.41 | mckenziemc | letting you know that someone has that password? |
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| 19:01.58 | Kaylin | correct but we let people know somebody has an account name too |
| 19:02.05 | Dagmar | You can't enforce unique passwords, because a failed attempt at setting a password would reveal that *someone* is using that as a password |
| 19:02.18 | Kaylin | I'm just wondering really is knowing somebody out of millions uses a0-sdu09f10-z,s as a password really harmful? |
| 19:02.28 | Kaylin | not knowing who it is |
| 19:02.30 | Dagmar | You can, however, enforce non-shit passwords, and blacklist really stupid ones like "mypassword" |
| 19:02.37 | Kaylin | password1 |
| 19:02.39 | Kaylin | :P |
| 19:02.47 | Dagmar | Kaylin: Actually it reduces the keyspace _remarkably_ |
| 19:02.56 | Kaylin | *nods* |
| 19:03.00 | Kaylin | I suppose it would |
| 19:03.07 | Kaylin | you could reasonably try it on every account |
| 19:03.15 | Kaylin | even millions wouldn't take long if you knew the account names |
| 19:03.23 | Dagmar | There's a dude who had an article up on HNN awhile back about "How I collect passwords" and he has a pretty sizeable database of passwords at this point |
| 19:03.26 | Dagmar | Several million. |
| 19:03.34 | Arrowmaster | yeah best is to use something to enforce good passwords and a proper system that salts and hashes multiple times like bcrypt |
| 19:03.49 | Dagmar | Going through them is something I'd like to call "enlightening" but at this point it is actually "makes me want to kill a bunch of people" |
| 19:04.09 | Kaylin | because they got them stolen or because somebody picked that as a password to begin with? |
| 19:04.10 | Kaylin | :P |
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| 19:04.14 | Dagmar | "passw0rd" is not in the least bit clever, but it's common as hell |
| 19:04.25 | Shirik | but it's not password |
| 19:04.38 | mckenziemc | hey Sh1r1k |
| 19:04.47 | Dagmar | Kaylin: because every time there's a compromise, other people make a list of the most common passwords, and those get tried first in brute force attempts |
| 19:04.49 | Kaylin | what? this sentence is a perfectly valid password: "because they got them stolen or because somebody picked that as a password to begin with?" |
| 19:05.05 | Dagmar | Being that they are the most common passwords and they're not being blacklisted outright, you get a LOT of hits trying them |
| 19:05.31 | Kaylin | yea I was reading an article on this yesterday |
| 19:05.43 | kd3 | http://i.imgur.com/lk57d.png |
| 19:05.45 | kd3 | >> |
| 19:06.00 | Kaylin | wut |
| 19:06.01 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 19:06.05 | Dagmar | hehh |
| 19:06.10 | kd3 | the win8 BSOD |
| 19:06.14 | Arrowmaster | .... |
| 19:06.24 | Kaylin | haha |
| 19:06.25 | Shirik | that's |
| 19:06.27 | Shirik | awesome |
| 19:06.46 | Arrowmaster | its stupid |
| 19:06.52 | Shirik | but on a more serious note |
| 19:06.53 | Kaylin | no it has a :( on it |
| 19:06.56 | Shirik | how do I debug something like that |
| 19:07.03 | Shirik | like if I'm doing kernel level stuff |
| 19:07.05 | mckenziemc | i like how they say "your PC" not OS |
| 19:07.07 | Dagmar | I would argue that ":(" isn't "professional" and I'm sure some managerial types high on cocaine did, but "0x020349234" isn't fucking useful, and that's worse |
| 19:07.18 | Kaylin | winkey + r --> compmgmt.msc |
| 19:07.27 | Shirik | it's useful for people that actually are trying to debug code, Dagmar |
| 19:07.44 | Shirik | tbh there better be a way to turn on "more information" |
| 19:07.45 | Dagmar | There's probably a mode to switch on unsimplified messages |
| 19:07.47 | Kaylin | that will presumably still log the actual errors |
| 19:07.54 | Dagmar | ...r it's just already doing a log dump somewhere |
| 19:07.55 | Shirik | I guess they do log them in win7, yeah |
| 19:08.04 | Dagmar | There's no need to inflict complex error messages on end users. |
| 19:08.07 | mckenziemc | also, what's DPC Watchdog o.O |
| 19:08.09 | Shirik | yes there is |
| 19:08.12 | Kaylin | idk the name worried me |
| 19:08.12 | Shirik | it's called job security |
| 19:08.28 | Dagmar | Shirik: Sounds to me like an excuse to be lazy |
| 19:09.06 | Dagmar | Just wait until you're the age where people will start claiming you're "past your prime" for programming, but you're not cranking out *utter shit code* |
| 19:09.26 | Arrowmaster | im going to kill this fucking kid with the whistle out in the park behind my house |
| 19:09.32 | Kaylin | the sad thing is we're going to see stuff on webforums like help I got the error "your computer doesn't work :(" and it said to ask on the Internet. |
| 19:09.32 | Kaylin | can you find the actual error message in the system log? uh how do I do that? oh hey I got the same error: no you didn't, post the log. but it says your computer doesn't work! :( |
| 19:09.44 | kd3 | wait, what? http://i.imgur.com/WKtK6.jpg |
| 19:10.01 | Shirik | that looks like something for a facebook timeline |
| 19:10.09 | Shirik | also, it's awesome |
| 19:10.18 | Dagmar | Kaylin: No need to worry about that. It gave some keywords which I'm sure Bing will have special hooks for |
| 19:10.34 | Arrowmaster | but who the fuck uses bing |
| 19:10.44 | Kaylin | hopefully, and hopefully real search engines follow suit. |
| 19:10.57 | mckenziemc | lusers, Arrowmaster |
| 19:10.57 | Shirik | actually |
| 19:11.00 | Shirik | I used bing the other day |
| 19:11.03 | bluspacecow | -____- |
| 19:11.04 | Shirik | and it found something google couldn't find |
| 19:11.05 | Dagmar | Dumbasses who never changed IE's default |
| 19:11.08 | Shirik | once, ever |
| 19:11.09 | mckenziemc | ~lart Shirik |
| 19:11.09 | purl | hauls Shirik up by the scruff of the neck and spanks him until he waddles |
| 19:11.11 | bluspacecow | my new armor in D3 is pink |
| 19:11.14 | Kaylin | did it find bing's homepage? :P |
| 19:11.19 | bluspacecow | a most unmanly color |
| 19:11.20 | Shirik | I was trying to find the analog literals page |
| 19:11.22 | Shirik | which has been deleted |
| 19:11.27 | Shirik | but bing found a copy of it somewhere else |
| 19:11.31 | Shirik | which google probably was discarding |
| 19:11.32 | Dagmar | ...and people prone to spontaneous random nonsense coming out of their mouths. ...like those "eye-witnesses" you see on the news all the time |
| 19:11.44 | Kaylin | recommends archive.org |
| 19:11.50 | pompy | Shirik: http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-cetera/windows-8-blue-screen-of-death-replaces-crash-details-with-a-sad-face-20110914/ |
| 19:12.42 | Dagmar | Shirik: You sure about that? When I Google for "Analog Literals" I can see some pages that were probebly what you're looking for |
| 19:12.44 | Shirik | stabs whoever wrote that article |
| 19:12.50 | Shirik | Dagmar: At the time I didn't know it was called analog literals |
| 19:12.53 | Shirik | I only knew contents on the page |
| 19:13.09 | pompy | http://www.geek.com/users/Matthew/ he did lol. |
| 19:13.24 | Dagmar | Ahhh |
| 19:13.49 | Shirik | "As you can see in the images above, the uninformative page of text has gone." |
| 19:13.55 | Shirik | NOT UNINFORMATIVE PAGE OF TEXT |
| 19:14.16 | Kaylin | doesn't BSOD give you addresses you can use to determine where the crash occured? |
| 19:14.20 | Kaylin | (currently) |
| 19:14.32 | Dagmar | IF you are a developer with a lot of knowledge |
| 19:14.38 | zenzelezz | yup |
| 19:14.38 | Shirik | ^ |
| 19:14.42 | Dagmar | If you're everyone else, it's just a confusing mass of headecimal bullshit |
| 19:14.49 | Dagmar | er hexa |
| 19:14.54 | mckenziemc | the normal one is no more uninformative than the new one |
| 19:14.57 | zenzelezz | I'm sure that's why Windows defaults to auto-reboot on BSOD |
| 19:15.04 | Dagmar | Probably |
| 19:15.05 | Kaylin | headachadecimal? :P |
| 19:15.26 | Shirik | zenzelezz: Sometimes so fast you can't even see it :P |
| 19:15.32 | Dagmar | The only thing most people are going to be able to do about it is fail to report it properly, so you might as well just reboot so they can get back to their minesweeper |
| 19:15.40 | Kaylin | it's still logged to the system log |
| 19:15.43 | Maldivia | you probably still have an event log entry with all the data, which is where you would normally find the data, since noone sane write that shit down :P |
| 19:16.08 | Shirik | tbh there is one side of this I can see why Microsoft is doing it |
| 19:16.20 | Shirik | Apple has been pretty successful making things shiny and pretty |
| 19:16.21 | Kaylin | because it's cute? |
| 19:16.39 | Dagmar | Jeez you probably have a point there about Apple |
| 19:16.41 | pompy | im sure there will still be crash drumps |
| 19:16.45 | pompy | dumps* |
| 19:16.50 | bluspacecow | shirik is shiny and pretty |
| 19:16.51 | Dagmar | Those people are perfectly happy just seeing an icon of an unhappy mac and have been for years |
| 19:16.55 | bluspacecow | is he made by Apple ? |
| 19:17.02 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.17 | Shirik | example: When an app crashes on iphone, it just goes away |
| 19:17.28 | Shirik | no error message, no reboot |
| 19:17.33 | Shirik | just "oh btw here's your home screen" |
| 19:17.41 | zenzelezz | yeah... |
| 19:18.12 | bluspacecow | are you saying that's good or bad ? |
| 19:18.17 | bluspacecow | IMHO |
| 19:18.19 | bluspacecow | its bad |
| 19:18.20 | Shirik | I'm saying it's been proven successful |
| 19:18.26 | Shirik | not saying it's good or bad |
| 19:18.27 | bluspacecow | as you don't know if its crashed due to low memory |
| 19:18.31 | bluspacecow | or a bug in the program |
| 19:18.36 | Shirik | the business world isn't about what's right, wrong, good, bad |
| 19:18.38 | Shirik | it's about what makes money |
| 19:18.42 | Shirik | and apple has shown that makes money |
| 19:18.49 | bluspacecow | you have to acces the crash logs to find that out and not every iOS owner knows how to do |
| 19:18.55 | Kaylin | probably bad, but also common, most users also seem perfectly happy with their password being password, and even more so if they don't have to actually type it |
| 19:19.51 | bluspacecow | breds laziness that does |
| 19:20.31 | zenzelezz | keypad:(legacy|oss|future)_wang... I don't know what these wangs do, but I do not want them on my keyboard |
| 19:20.53 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 19:21.24 | Kaylin | oss_wang? what are these nazi dicks doing o.O |
| 19:21.55 | Dagmar | wat |
| 19:22.30 | Dagmar | Kaylin: After awhile my girlfriends get used to the idea that I don't let them access my desktop |
| 19:22.46 | Kaylin | yup, my friends too. |
| 19:23.00 | Dagmar | "You don't trust me?" "This isn't about trust. I set you up your own account." |
| 19:23.43 | Dagmar | Generlaly you have to take them with you to a hacker con before they realize you're not just being paranoid about it |
| 19:24.34 | Kaylin | exactly. irrespective of that, people need to understand just trusting people isn't smart, if we just trust everybody to get regular STD testing and disclose all their partner history we wouldn't need to use protection beyond preventing pregancy, but we'd all end up with STIs because people either lie or don't know what they |
| 19:24.40 | Kaylin | 're doing. same applies here. |
| 19:24.52 | Kaylin | oh you ARE being paranoid about it, but you're also right. |
| 19:25.21 | Dagmar | I don't think my girlfriends are out to get me (usually). I'm just following procedure. |
| 19:25.43 | Kaylin | right, there's nothing gained from just risking it, it's not like it's hard to do it the right way in that respect. |
| 19:26.28 | Kaylin | alright, imma go for a walk with my parents' dog, back later :O |
| 19:28.52 | Dagmar | Heck, I lock my desktop if I get up to go to the bathroom, just because if I don't do it at home I'll get into the habit of not doing it at work |
| 19:29.27 | Dagmar | ...because some of my co-workers are wanks. For awhile I had a screen lock that looked like my normal desktop. |
| 19:29.41 | Dagmar | Touch it wrong and it starts making annoying sounds. |
| 19:30.15 | Dagmar | *Eventually* they realized they weren't going to catch me leaving it unlocked |
| 19:31.26 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 19:31.32 | mckenziemc | that's clever |
| 19:31.33 | Dagmar | The only person to get around it figured out they could stick paper under my Win key |
| 19:32.17 | mckenziemc | huh? |
| 19:32.29 | Dagmar | I slap win-L without even thinking about it or looking at it |
| 19:32.35 | mckenziemc | ah |
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| 19:34.05 | Dagmar | By now it's practically a reflex. If I stand up to answer some question someone threw at me over the cube walls I'm likely to lock it |
| 19:34.38 | Shirik | envisions people writing down questions, balling them up, and chucking them over a cube wall |
| 19:34.58 | Shirik | preferably at high velocity |
| 19:35.01 | Dagmar | Nah. For awhile we had the office laid out perfectly for just not-quite-yelling things at each other |
| 19:35.18 | Dagmar | The groups that did the most interaction had their areas next to each other nice and tidy-like |
| 19:35.40 | Dagmar | If you had a suspicion someone just took someething down you were working on, you could stand up and look at them. |
| 19:35.51 | Dagmar | ...or ask them if it's supposed to be that way, etc etc |
| 19:40.42 | Adys | I need to stop AFK-watching mythbusters |
| 19:40.49 | Adys | working on my code, going through google reader |
| 19:40.51 | Adys | all of a sudden: "THAT is one threaded needle with an EXCAVATOR!" what? |
| 19:47.30 | Shirik | http://cheezburger.com/6300561920 |
| 20:00.13 | mckenziemc | "Password restrictions: [...] The password can't contain obscene language." |
| 20:02.22 | mckenziemc | i guess they store passwords in plaintext and someone might be offended.... |
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| 20:31.48 | karl_w_w | o man i forgot those free aol cds |
| 20:32.58 | bluspacecow | the lolcoasters ? |
| 20:34.31 | karl_w_w | i feel like there was another one as well |
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| 20:47.02 | Shirik | " In layman's terms, dielectric constant of a solvent can be thought of as its ability to reduce the solute's internal charge." - From Wikipedia, the encyclopedia written by people that know way too much to understand what "layman's terms" are |
| 20:47.36 | bluspacecow | http://blog.amarielle.eu/post/24742034679 |
| 20:47.41 | bluspacecow | lulz |
| 20:50.21 | Shirik | I'm gonna have to call BS on that |
| 20:50.37 | bluspacecow | do you have their number ? |
| 20:50.49 | Shirik | I seriously doubt that fedex personnell would call it IFF |
| 20:51.56 | bluspacecow | i sleeps nows+ |
| 20:55.54 | mikma | http://cheezburger.com/6299072512 |
| 20:56.19 | Shirik | .. |
| 20:58.21 | mikma | http://cheezburger.com/6283931136 |
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| 21:08.51 | Arrowmaster | i think something is broken and im getting disconnected from d3 after logging in |
| 21:09.08 | Arrowmaster | AH wont update and i cant create a game |
| 21:09.32 | *** join/#wowuidev tekkub (~tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub) |
| 21:09.32 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 21:10.47 | Arrowmaster | cant switch heros either |
| 21:11.24 | Arrowmaster | can somebody thats on tell me if im even showing on the friends list right now |
| 21:11.40 | karl_w_w | Arrowmaster: reinstall your operating system |
| 21:11.47 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 21:12.42 | karl_w_w | you arent showing Arrowmaster |
| 21:12.53 | Arrowmaster | well i just had to kill the client |
| 21:12.56 | Arrowmaster | and restart it |
| 21:13.24 | karl_w_w | ur on now |
| 21:28.17 | zenzelezz | I like how network-bound D3 is... like how it wouldn't recognise me hitting the "Exit game" button because (I assume) it was waiting from a confirmation from the server |
| 21:34.01 | zenzelezz | "Oh, congratulations guys, we crashed BenQ's website!" - "No doubt they'll.. *sunglasses*.. monitor the situation" |
| 22:02.51 | Stanzilla | I just found the first WoW movie I made |
| 22:03.02 | Stanzilla | and I swear, I've never seen such a terrible player before |
| 22:04.16 | zenzelezz | I'm sure you're a better player now |
| 22:05.52 | Stanzilla | yes ^^ |
| 22:16.11 | Arrowmaster | found my first d3 legendary, its a lvl 57 WD helm |
| 22:16.27 | jnwhiteh | still haven't found any |
| 22:16.28 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 22:16.47 | jnwhiteh | tom goe one super quick |
| 22:27.51 | Arrowmaster | hmm something is wrong, im not getting achievements |
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| 23:13.04 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: easy: you're playing super mario land. |
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