| 00:01.21 | Jamash | attacks with your weapon will do bonus arcane damage, spells probably not |
| 00:01.59 | Jamash | but I believe the +damage does factor into your total damage |
| 00:09.26 | cbreak | hmm... |
| 00:09.34 | foxlit | bonus question: does "Attack Speed Increased by X%" increase the damage dealt by spells? |
| 00:11.24 | TC-Work | what? |
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| 00:11.40 | TC-Work | it increases spellcasting speed |
| 00:12.12 | foxlit | so it's basically trash? |
| 00:12.24 | Stanzilla | no |
| 00:12.28 | Stanzilla | it's awesome |
| 00:12.58 | foxlit | You must be casting something different form what I'm casting |
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| 00:27.48 | foxlit | Testing this is painful, but it seems that you're right. It IAS won't increase damage dealt per cast, which is unfortunate if you can't stand still and spam your spells. |
| 00:36.51 | TC-Work | foxlit: why are you still talking about damage delt? |
| 00:36.59 | TC-Work | dealt* |
| 00:37.19 | foxlit | because that's an interesting topic. |
| 00:37.42 | TC-Work | i mean, is it the 'bonus question' of yours or what Jamash was asking about |
| 00:38.01 | TC-Work | or cbreak rather |
| 00:38.20 | foxlit | nah, just responding to myself :( |
| 00:39.00 | TC-Work | i feel like i am getting trolled |
| 00:39.13 | foxlit | The reason it's interesting is that you could imagine a playstyle where you'd hit meteor twice, run out of arcane power, then turn around and run while you regenerate -- increasing casting speed on resource-limited spells is therefore less useful. |
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| 00:40.11 | foxlit | On the other hand, they could've taken their "Damage" number from the character sheet, and used that as the base damage for all abilities -- so when something deals 175% weapon damage, it could deal 175% of your dps instead, which would make IAS useful even in that cast-twice-and-run-away scenario. |
| 00:40.35 | TC-Work | i think thats why people take take shock pulse + Living lightning and prodogy |
| 00:41.35 | TC-Work | i'm glad they did it the same per class across the board. |
| 00:45.23 | foxlit | not sure what you mean by that, seeing as to how all resource mechanics are different. |
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| 00:55.41 | Jamash | foxlit: I think having IAS be its own mechanic and not just add "moar dps" is good |
| 00:56.26 | Jamash | it means that your choice of skills affects your choice of gear |
| 00:56.45 | Jamash | diablo III is already dangerously close to just see if the numbers turn green, right-click if so |
| 00:56.51 | foxlit | given how diablo's UI works, it also means that you're never able to objectively evaluate whether your choice is correct. |
| 00:58.02 | Jamash | oh noes |
| 00:58.35 | Jamash | they can't figure out the interaction between every stat and every skill for you |
| 00:58.54 | foxlit | *I* can't figure out the interaction between stats and skills in my own gameplay |
| 00:59.00 | Jamash | good design! |
| 00:59.40 | foxlit | Indeed. Coming soon: items that you cannot identify. "Just try it and see if they work for you!" |
| 01:05.57 | cbreak | the way I killed nightmare butcher was to get the resource reduction meteor glyph |
| 01:06.15 | cbreak | and the ability to give me increased regen and 20 more arcane power |
| 01:06.28 | cbreak | then I was able to spam three or four meteors in short succession and then run |
| 01:06.30 | TC-Work | were you usaing a hydra as well? |
| 01:06.35 | cbreak | no |
| 01:06.44 | TC-Work | you should have been |
| 01:06.47 | cbreak | I've been using arcane hydra + other arcane stuff for ages |
| 01:06.53 | cbreak | wanted to try something else |
| 01:07.01 | cbreak | relying on one single spell sucks |
| 01:07.20 | TC-Work | not 'instead of' but 'as well as' |
| 01:07.30 | foxlit | as someone who did go meteor for butcher on some difficulty (probably hell?), that gameplay sucked :( |
| 01:08.14 | TC-Work | anything that sticks around, deals dmg, and has a one time cost is a win for a caster/kiter |
| 01:08.25 | foxlit | hydras are evil. |
| 01:08.31 | TC-Work | and tracks the target as well |
| 01:08.42 | foxlit | pop one near an electrified mob and your entire screen will be filled with lightning |
| 01:08.49 | foxlit | Nothing else does that :P |
| 01:10.04 | cbreak | today I tried a few different builds |
| 01:10.13 | cbreak | I got lightning stun skill |
| 01:10.17 | cbreak | but somehow that didn't work well |
| 01:10.31 | cbreak | even though 8% should have been stuned, I don't remember if I saw it work even once |
| 01:10.33 | TC-Work | see, now that works with IAS rather well |
| 01:10.36 | cbreak | despite having alightning hydra |
| 01:10.44 | cbreak | and chain lightning |
| 01:10.54 | cbreak | and lightning buffed weapon enchant spell |
| 01:11.08 | cbreak | I was speculating that it's broken and gave up on it |
| 01:11.49 | foxlit | isn't the wording something silly like "up to 8% [in your face, IAS!]"? |
| 01:12.49 | cbreak | other spells I tried to use because they seem fun but didn't work were time slow bubble, the cyclone thing and blizzard |
| 01:13.13 | foxlit | slow bubble is kind of underwhelming |
| 01:13.25 | foxlit | you know what's awesome? missile dampening affix's bubble. |
| 01:13.35 | cbreak | I like it conceptually, and against ranged mobs it's great |
| 01:13.44 | cbreak | what's that? |
| 01:14.04 | foxlit | I'm not sure why that affix is extremely rare, but it basically slows projectiles to a crawl |
| 01:14.10 | cbreak | unfortunately, I usually get killed by melee mobs anyway |
| 01:14.21 | cbreak | isn't that normal? |
| 01:14.32 | cbreak | it slows mobs a tiny bit, but spells a lot |
| 01:14.38 | cbreak | or arrows, and so on |
| 01:14.39 | foxlit | in most cases. |
| 01:15.20 | foxlit | but arrows can be annoying too, since you can't kite them as easily, and your healthbar can't take too many arrow hits. |
| 01:15.49 | foxlit | blizzard is okayish; played with it for a few levels in hell. |
| 01:16.30 | cbreak | I found it ineffective |
| 01:16.38 | cbreak | since I usually got killed by mobs meleing me |
| 01:16.43 | cbreak | or had to run away |
| 01:16.53 | cbreak | and the mobs followed of course, without staying in blizzard |
| 01:16.53 | foxlit | it won't kill things, but it's pretty effective at keeping them away from you |
| 01:17.05 | cbreak | it doesn't even slow |
| 01:17.18 | foxlit | does too :) |
| 01:19.04 | foxlit | I might be overreaching here, but all cold damage snares. |
| 01:20.01 | cbreak | that's not documented |
| 01:20.35 | foxlit | documentation is generally lacking :( |
| 01:21.51 | TC-Work | most people use slow + 20% increased dmg |
| 01:22.04 | cbreak | level 45 will be nice |
| 01:22.08 | TC-Work | then drop stuff in there |
| 01:22.17 | cbreak | I tried that and it was nice |
| 01:22.25 | cbreak | unless I was fighting things that just charged at me |
| 01:22.36 | cbreak | and the spell bar is so small :( |
| 01:22.42 | cbreak | I want more space! |
| 01:24.20 | foxlit | look into the various diamond skin runes while you don't need double absorption |
| 01:24.42 | cbreak | most of the time I use prismatic |
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| 01:32.04 | TC-Work | what do you mean by small....as in hard to see or you want more ability slots? |
| 01:32.57 | cbreak | I want more slots |
| 01:33.04 | cbreak | at least 4 more or so |
| 01:33.10 | cbreak | that I can have an armor and the weapon buff |
| 01:33.22 | cbreak | and blink and diamond armor and time stop thing |
| 01:35.30 | foxlit | the weapon buffs are really bland |
| 01:36.00 | foxlit | it's like giving up your active skill slot for a passive one -- the damage increase may be good, but game becomes less fun :( |
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| 01:45.46 | Shannon | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:45.55 | Shannon | . /run start, duration, enable = GetItemCooldown("Arena Grand Master"); print(start, duration, enable) |
| 01:46.40 | Shannon | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:50.13 | Shannon | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:50.21 | Shannon | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:11.59 | TC-Work | !api GetItemCooldown |
| 02:11.59 | lua_bot | GetItemCooldown: Returns cooldown information about an arbitrary item (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetItemCooldown) |
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| 02:15.59 | shifuimam | man, i wish the RoM dev community was as active :( |
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| 02:27.13 | mckenziemc | what's the site that runs a given file through multiple antivirus databases? |
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| 02:29.22 | TC-Work | mckenziemc: http://virusscan.jotti.org/en ? |
| 02:29.38 | TC-Work | https://www.virustotal.com/ ? |
| 02:30.03 | TC-Work | http://vscan.novirusthanks.org/ ? |
| 02:30.17 | TC-Work | http://virscan.org/ ? |
| 02:30.25 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 02:31.09 | TC-Work | a little google goes a long way mckenziemc |
| 02:31.34 | mckenziemc | i'm busy multitasking :< |
| 02:31.45 | mckenziemc | and recommendations from people i trust are nice |
| 02:36.16 | TC-Work | you trust people in here? |
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| 02:41.50 | mckenziemc | not you TC-Work |
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| 02:42.21 | mckenziemc | but maybe bluspacecow |
| 02:42.32 | bluspacecow | \o |
| 02:42.56 | mckenziemc | chops off bluspacecow's ar |
| 02:42.57 | mckenziemc | m |
| 02:43.07 | bluspacecow | my what? |
| 02:43.36 | nilyaK | ear :O |
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| 02:44.06 | bluspacecow | oh dear |
| 02:44.11 | bluspacecow | i am picasso ? |
| 03:00.31 | pompy | http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/05/in-ukraine-they-literally-fight-over-politics/1?csp=34news :O |
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| 03:17.54 | mckenziemc | bluspacecow |
| 03:17.58 | mckenziemc | buy me some more RAM |
| 03:18.07 | mckenziemc | you never did give me a birthday present : / |
| 03:19.13 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:23.08 | karl_w_w | if a parcel tracker says something is manifested does that mean it hasnt been picked up from the sender yet? |
| 03:24.05 | bluspacecow | IIRC it means it's been picked up and checked into their delivery centre |
| 03:24.09 | bluspacecow | ie handed to courier |
| 03:24.14 | bluspacecow | which company ? |
| 03:24.37 | pompy | karl_w_w: http://auspost-cx.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/29/~/when-tracking-an-item-online,-what-does-manifest-received-and-manifest-accepted |
| 03:26.15 | karl_w_w | i see |
| 03:26.19 | karl_w_w | and it is aus post |
| 03:27.30 | bluspacecow | i have work now and i feel like the 10th doctor when he's dying |
| 03:29.53 | karl_w_w | anyone know who the 10th doctor was? :P |
| 03:29.59 | karl_w_w | tennant? |
| 03:30.23 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 03:30.27 | nilyaK | 9/10 doctors agree, we have no idea what bluspacecow was talking about |
| 03:30.32 | karl_w_w | wasnt he quite cheery when he died |
| 03:32.47 | mckenziemc | i would be too if i were bluspacecow and dying |
| 03:36.22 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx0LSM_qy7s apparently it was a little painful |
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| 04:20.45 | karl_w_w | http://notalwaysright.com/together-and-equal/19740 why is this funny? |
| 04:42.46 | TC-Work | karl_w_w: troll? |
| 04:42.59 | Shannon | Hi, can anyone tell me why this won't work. I've racked my brains and I can't think of any reason why. |
| 04:43.04 | Shannon | . /run start, duration, enable = GetItemCooldown("Arena Grand Master"); print(start, duration, enable) |
| 04:43.49 | Shannon | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:44.04 | Shannon | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:44.36 | mckenziemc | are you looking at a chat tab that isn't DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME ? |
| 04:44.48 | mckenziemc | (which would make print not show up) |
| 04:44.53 | Shannon | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:44.59 | Shannon | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:45.08 | mckenziemc | hmm |
| 04:45.20 | Shannon | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:45.31 | mckenziemc | what do you get with /dump GetItemCooldown("Arena Grand Master") |
| 04:45.38 | Shannon | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:45.51 | Adys | fucks sake |
| 04:45.59 | Adys | any wizard defeated belial inferno solo here? |
| 04:47.15 | Shannon | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:47.30 | Shannon | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:47.45 | Shannon | but then i tried it with the /run and same result , nothing happens |
| 04:48.27 | Shannon | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.30 | mckenziemc | did you use /dump, or /run |
| 04:48.39 | Shannon | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.50 | Shannon | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.59 | Shannon | scratches head |
| 04:49.25 | Shannon | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:49.57 | mckenziemc | what happens if you use the id (19024) |
| 04:50.01 | Shannon | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:50.06 | Shannon | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:50.16 | cogwheel | I ... i... umm (NSFW-ish) http://laughingsquid.com/chappos-hell-no-music-video-features-creepy-mustached-boobs/ |
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| 04:52.21 | Shannon | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:52.41 | mckenziemc | i wonder why the string doesn't |
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| 05:30.09 | bluspacecow | set up MAC address authentication for a local wi-fi service with the wrong MAC address. |
| 05:30.12 | bluspacecow | fail. |
| 05:30.32 | bluspacecow | missed out an octet. |
| 05:33.34 | mckenziemc | you managed to get that far with a cut-off arm? |
| 05:33.46 | bluspacecow | yeppers |
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| 05:45.46 | Stanzilla | Fisker man |
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| 07:06.34 | AcidWeb | Morning |
| 07:10.32 | Thunder_Child | i refuse |
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| 07:55.48 | Fisker | Stanzilla man |
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| 08:42.43 | karl_w_w | Adys belial is easy because the platform is so small, take diamond skin and tornado, spam tornado and spend all your time and concentration avoiding damage |
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| 09:57.14 | karl_w_w | <TC-Work> karl_w_w: troll? <- are you asking if I'm trolling? I just don't see how that is funny, I wouldn't be surprised if it happens every single day |
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| 10:24.48 | nevcairiel | what does the avenger affix do? somehow i died, but i didnt notice what happend :P |
| 10:25.49 | karl_w_w | kills you |
| 10:26.06 | mckenziemc | kills karl_w_w |
| 10:26.10 | nevcairiel | seems like the mobs hit me harder right after i hit them |
| 10:26.51 | Fisker | when you kill one the remaining gain strength |
| 10:27.36 | Fisker | i'm your mom nevcairiel |
| 10:32.07 | nevcairiel | nou |
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| 10:36.43 | randomDude | Fisker: why would you want to do that? |
| 10:36.56 | randomDude | sounds retarded for a single player game |
| 10:38.32 | Fisker | what is randomDude ? |
| 10:40.22 | randomDude | that thing |
| 10:41.08 | Fisker | what thing? |
| 10:41.23 | randomDude | the bit with the game |
| 10:41.40 | mckenziemc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:47.18 | Fisker | what bit with the game randomDude ? |
| 10:47.31 | randomDude | where that part happens |
| 10:51.25 | randomDude | doncha know? |
| 10:55.13 | Fisker | where what part happens randomDude ? |
| 10:55.29 | randomDude | where you touch yourself at night |
| 11:02.53 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/browse/22158/what_goes_around_comes_around.gif |
| 11:03.15 | mikma | wobin: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/baby_kangoroo.jpg |
| 11:05.08 | randomDude | mikma: this is better http://kuvaton.com/browse/22153/millionth_customer.jpg |
| 11:19.14 | karl_w_w | Fiskerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 11:20.48 | Fisker | karl_w_w |
| 11:20.49 | Fisker | sup? |
| 11:22.19 | karl_w_w | nothing at all |
| 11:22.31 | randomDude | dawg |
| 11:22.38 | nevcairiel | nearly 6k dps in hell act1, i feel so OP right now :p |
| 11:23.07 | karl_w_w | you're a god nevcairiel |
| 11:23.15 | nevcairiel | i know! |
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| 12:06.15 | Ketho | could someone on EU suggest this guy to use this script? I can't post since I don't have an active sub atm :( |
| 12:06.15 | Ketho | /run EnableAddOn("Blizzard_CompactRaidFrames");EnableAddOn("Blizzard_CUFProfiles") |
| 12:06.15 | Ketho | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4310134280 |
| 12:08.08 | AcidWeb | done |
| 12:09.15 | Ketho | AcidWeb: thanks! |
| 12:12.21 | karl_w_w | I'm surprised you found somebody in here who would suggest something with a semicolon in it |
| 12:20.30 | cbreak | you can't just leave it away, you'd have to replace it with a space |
| 12:22.05 | Ketho | I don't ever use semicolons actually. but just this time I thought it would look nicer or something :/ |
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| 12:49.46 | karl_w_w | not true cbreak |
| 12:49.54 | karl_w_w | it would work just fine with no space in there |
| 13:00.07 | karl_w_w | when i moved up to the next difficulty why didnt my follower follow me? |
| 13:04.20 | karl_w_w | oh they're stood right there np |
| 13:11.53 | randomDude | they don't trust you |
| 13:13.29 | nevcairiel | that happens because diablo removed them before, its kinda annoying :p |
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| 13:34.22 | karl_w_w | wow go me |
| 13:34.37 | karl_w_w | find a rare wizard hat, think wow finally something i might be able to use |
| 13:34.42 | karl_w_w | stack of strength on it |
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| 14:04.04 | sintAcks | 54 days uptime on my phone makes me not want to upgrade to iOS 5.1.1 |
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| 14:26.06 | Fisker | i wouldn't want to have iOS 5.1.1 either sintAcks |
| 14:29.45 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:31.03 | randomDude | they keep breaking stuff everytime they upgrade |
| 14:37.34 | bluspacecow | http://www.startrek.com/article/doctor-who-star-trek-comic-set-for-release Dr Who / ST TNG. Not sure if want. |
| 14:49.26 | randomDude | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1844770/ |
| 14:49.32 | randomDude | maybe you want that instead? |
| 14:51.46 | Fisker | i'm sure if old though bluspacecow |
| 14:55.13 | bluspacecow | lulz |
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| 15:30.10 | zenzelezz | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2149820/Bridge-troubled-water-Bungling-cruise-ship-captain-crashes-luxury-liner-maiden-voyage-realising-tall-seven-storey-vessel-was.html |
| 15:30.12 | zenzelezz | oops |
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| 15:31.07 | zenzelezz | seems to me it would be a good idea to stop building ships that only barely fit under the bridges they cross in *optimal* situations |
| 15:38.55 | pompy | http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/26/world/meast/syria-unrest/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 sickening |
| 15:42.13 | pompy | http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/26/world/europe/finland-shootings/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 >< |
| 15:45.44 | karl_w_w | zenzelezz I think you're underestimating how much of a difference tides and a heavy load can make :P |
| 15:46.17 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: that's what I'm saying. If it needs the tide and load to pass under the bridge, I think they're just being stupid |
| 15:46.49 | karl_w_w | my bet is it would only have had to pass under that bridge once |
| 15:48.17 | zenzelezz | on an unrelated note, archery in Skyrim on the Xbox seems worthless... so difficult to hit anything at range |
| 15:49.14 | karl_w_w | s/archery in Skyrim on // |
| 15:49.35 | zenzelezz | that's not a good replacement |
| 15:49.40 | zenzelezz | archery sucks worse than the rest |
| 15:49.49 | karl_w_w | s/zenzelezz// |
| 15:49.59 | zenzelezz | hm, wonder if I could actually get it running in Wine |
| 15:50.59 | karl_w_w | it's unlikely |
| 15:51.02 | karl_w_w | swimming maybe |
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| 15:56.13 | pompy | well shit http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/481332_10151765423060641_165567151_n.jpg |
| 16:06.02 | bluspacecow | y they drive up tree? |
| 16:06.49 | pompy | street racing, yay |
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| 16:47.51 | karl_w_w | does your hemp die if you don't water it in hemp tycoon? |
| 16:50.22 | Skau1 | just wondering, is there an easy way to catch all changes made to your gold? like when you loot, buy, repair, bid/buyout from AH, loot from mailbox etc? |
| 16:52.26 | Mr_Rabies | there're a few addons to help track that kinda stuff, but i can't recall their names atm |
| 16:52.36 | clever | Skau1: auditor is the one i use |
| 16:52.53 | clever | but i'm writing my own that extends to all items i gain/loose, and tracks what i actualy paid for them |
| 16:53.49 | Fisker | wanna make out bluspacecow ? |
| 16:53.55 | karl_w_w | Skau1: if you meant on the code side of things, PLAYER_MONEY |
| 16:54.16 | bluspacecow | @fisker yep |
| 16:54.24 | Fisker | nice |
| 16:54.27 | karl_w_w | I don't know if that tells you what the change was though |
| 16:54.29 | Skau1 | well, karl_w_w: can you fetch the event asweel? |
| 16:54.31 | Skau1 | aswell* |
| 16:54.48 | Skau1 | what he did to receive/lose money.. if i bought something, can you fetch what i bought? |
| 16:55.07 | karl_w_w | no idea :P |
| 16:55.16 | karl_w_w | probably not an easy way though |
| 16:55.36 | clever | Skau1: thats exactly what my addon tracks |
| 16:55.38 | clever | Skau1: profit_tracker |
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| 16:55.55 | Skau1 | oh |
| 16:55.59 | Skau1 | does it support mysql? |
| 16:55.59 | Skau1 | :P |
| 16:56.03 | clever | Skau1: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/profit_tracker/ |
| 16:56.11 | clever | Skau1: blizzard doesnt allow access to mysql |
| 16:56.18 | Skau1 | oh |
| 16:56.20 | Skau1 | hmm |
| 16:56.22 | clever | but it exports the data to lua files you could parse and copy to mysql |
| 16:56.27 | Skau1 | how did dpkg work? |
| 16:56.39 | Skau1 | you could press a button to upload to a website |
| 16:56.44 | Skau1 | oh, does it allow http? |
| 16:56.55 | clever | blizzard doesnt allow ANY access to data outside the game |
| 16:57.00 | Skau1 | hmm |
| 16:57.55 | Skau1 | i remember a few addons before that allowed you to upload stuff to a website through mysql |
| 16:57.58 | Skau1 | i think |
| 16:58.16 | clever | they probly used an external program that read the saved variables after you quit the game |
| 16:58.27 | clever | or totaly broke the rules and moded the in-memory code :P |
| 16:58.38 | Maldivia | or presents an edit box with data you copy paste to the website |
| 16:58.46 | clever | Maldivia: that would also work :) |
| 16:59.03 | Maldivia | thats the easy/common way to do it |
| 16:59.19 | nevcairiel | thats how most dkp addons i ever used worked |
| 16:59.47 | Shirik | what's the fun in that |
| 17:00.03 | Shirik | find a buffer overflow and get WoW to run arbitrary code from Lua to upload it |
| 17:00.05 | karl_w_w | dkp addons and reforge/gemming/gear addons are the only ones that do that |
| 17:00.19 | Skau1 | any chance you could make your addon support diffrent kind of export methods clever? :P |
| 17:00.40 | Skau1 | or would you allow me to modify your code? |
| 17:00.43 | karl_w_w | AH addons and census addons and wowhead tracker all use saved variables |
| 17:01.00 | clever | Skau1: its on github, so you could fork the project and make changes, then submit a pull request so i can accept them |
| 17:01.36 | clever | Skau1: https://github.com/cleverca22/profit_tracker |
| 17:01.39 | Skau1 | would be for personal use only though, im not really that good with LUA.. my main languages are PHP and Python |
| 17:01.40 | Skau1 | :P |
| 17:01.52 | Shirik | Lua is not an acronym |
| 17:02.28 | Skau1 | ok, not so good with lua then |
| 17:02.32 | Skau1 | :P |
| 17:02.42 | karl_w_w | Lua is a proper noun :P |
| 17:02.56 | Shirik | You would do well to learn Lua |
| 17:03.05 | Shirik | I can forgive python, but PHP is good at corrupting your soul |
| 17:03.20 | Shirik | on a more serious note, PHP is good at teaching you poor programming practices |
| 17:03.33 | nevcairiel | you would only know that if it already corrupted your soul |
| 17:03.44 | Shirik | it is true I picked up PHP early |
| 17:03.45 | Maldivia | Shirik: yeah, just look at the source code behind it |
| 17:03.49 | Shirik | however I was already corrupted by C++ |
| 17:03.55 | Skau1 | i know PHP have affected my general programming |
| 17:04.05 | Skau1 | my Python code looks like PHP, just python |
| 17:04.05 | Skau1 | :P |
| 17:04.21 | clever | Shirik: ive read the php core source, and i'm managing a fairly large php project |
| 17:04.32 | Shirik | and you're still alive? |
| 17:05.04 | clever | yes :P |
| 17:05.04 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 17:05.17 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
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| 17:06.51 | Fisker | i like you Shirik |
| 17:07.32 | Shirik | <3 |
| 17:08.19 | Skau1 | clever: dependcy missing |
| 17:09.00 | clever | Skau1: they should be listed in the toc file |
| 17:09.13 | clever | i havent gotten arround to building them into it, they came with my many other addons |
| 17:09.45 | Skau1 | installed through curse client |
| 17:10.04 | clever | then they probly arent marked enough to make curse happy |
| 17:10.50 | Skau1 | but it should be enough to just copy paste? |
| 17:11.05 | clever | *looks* |
| 17:12.43 | clever | Skau1: ok, thats up on git |
| 17:13.36 | Skau1 | thanks |
| 17:13.53 | Skau1 | its my friend that wants this, im not currently playing wow :P |
| 17:14.46 | clever | havent actualy tested it with them internal, but it looks like it will work |
| 17:16.11 | Skau1 | how often does the logfile update? |
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| 17:17.03 | clever | Skau1: whenever you leave the character and go to the 'select character' screen |
| 17:17.32 | Maldivia | it might occationally get flushed durign play as well, but nothing regularly |
| 17:17.40 | clever | Maldivia: ive never seen it do that |
| 17:17.59 | clever | and the saved variables are writen at 1 byte per syscall, ive seen it lock up solid for 20mins saving them |
| 17:18.03 | Skau1 | what if you quit or press alt + f4 |
| 17:18.12 | clever | Skau1: that will also save everything |
| 17:18.22 | Maldivia | though, crash = nothing |
| 17:18.35 | clever | yep |
| 17:19.09 | Skau1 | could you in theory make a symlinked file, and make it write to another computer? |
| 17:19.09 | Maldivia | clever: I've seen the log get flushed - but of course not the saved vars file |
| 17:19.21 | clever | i dont know of any log file i can write to |
| 17:19.32 | Maldivia | chatlog |
| 17:19.35 | clever | all 'logs' go to an array in the saved variable |
| 17:19.38 | clever | ah |
| 17:19.44 | clever | chatlog isnt a good place, would spam the end-user to death |
| 17:19.47 | Maldivia | combatlog |
| 17:20.06 | Maldivia | although, the combat log you can't really control |
| 17:20.13 | clever | might work, but i have no need to do it in realtime |
| 17:21.45 | clever | anything needing real time access can just be done ingame with lua |
| 17:26.20 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_w: That doesnt make it less funny. |
| 17:26.41 | clever | Skau1: got it working? |
| 17:27.41 | Skau1 | yeah, he did |
| 17:27.47 | Skau1 | but he had some questions that i couldnt answer |
| 17:27.53 | Skau1 | "CRAFTING||851,1,1720|1720|1|0", -- [3] <- could you explain the line ? |
| 17:28.07 | clever | yep, one sec |
| 17:28.13 | Skau1 | he is going to make a parser |
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| 17:28.42 | Skau1 | Baxxster can take it from here, he is the one using it :P |
| 17:29.03 | clever | Skau1: the 'lost_msg' is blank, the 'gain_msg' is '851,1,1720' |
| 17:29.10 | clever | Skau1: the total value changing is 1720 copper |
| 17:29.46 | Baxxster | What's the 851,1 ? =P (1720 was value of the thingy I know) |
| 17:29.52 | clever | the gain msg itself, item id 851 went up by a quant of 1, costing 1720 copper |
| 17:30.40 | clever | http://www.wowhead.com/item=851 its a Cutlass |
| 17:30.49 | Baxxster | Yup :P |
| 17:31.15 | clever | and he appears to have a rep discount, wowhead claims 2023 is the price |
| 17:31.37 | Baxxster | I got one CRAFTING-line which is kinda long, it was when I repaired. I guess that's for every piece of armor I repaired? |
| 17:31.37 | Fisker | slap Thunder_Child |
| 17:31.55 | clever | Baxxster: nope, it probly missed your items when you first logged in |
| 17:32.03 | clever | so it mis-reported EVERYTHING in your bags as costing the repair cost |
| 17:32.13 | clever | wont happen again now that it has them stored |
| 17:32.22 | Thunder_Child | you forgot to make that plural Fisker |
| 17:32.23 | Baxxster | ah, okay |
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| 17:33.31 | Fisker | nope Thunder_Child |
| 17:33.35 | clever | buying something from a vendor leaves you with a lost_msg thats blank (you lost no items) |
| 17:34.28 | clever | log_change('CRAFTING|'..table.concat(lost_msg,'/')..'|'..table.concat(gained_msg,'/')..'|'..value_changing..'|'..gain_count..'|'..loss_count) |
| 17:34.39 | clever | Skau1: this is the first step in seeing how to break the msg up |
| 17:35.11 | Thunder_Child | yes Fisker |
| 17:35.16 | Fisker | nope Thunder_Child |
| 17:35.35 | clever | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:36.07 | starlon | wake |
| 17:36.16 | clever | Skau1: this would be actual crafting, i lost 55 embersilk cloth worth 3g98s88c each, and gained 11 bolts worth 19g94s43c each |
| 17:36.35 | clever | total value converted, 219g38s83c |
| 17:40.16 | Skau1 | will this addon log traded gold aswell? if you for example tip someone for an enchant |
| 17:40.31 | Skau1 | will you get the name of the player or something? |
| 17:40.35 | clever | Skau1: doesnt handle trading at all right now |
| 17:40.40 | Skau1 | ah, k |
| 17:40.46 | clever | if you buy an enchant item in trade, it will treat it mostly like a vendor |
| 17:40.55 | clever | but if the enchant goes right to your gear, the addon wont even see it |
| 17:41.02 | clever | you just lost money for 'nothing' |
| 17:41.15 | Skau1 | but will this be logged at all anyway? |
| 17:41.28 | clever | i dont think it logs loosing gold and gaining nothing |
| 17:41.38 | clever | but auditor would def save that |
| 17:41.55 | Skau1 | i mean, so that you at least can make a list that show that you lose x gold, but reason is unknown |
| 17:42.43 | clever | my addon is more focused on putting a price tag on each item you own |
| 17:45.15 | clever | the end goal is to show profit/loss when you make an AH sale |
| 17:45.23 | clever | but it forgets items as soon as you put them up for sale |
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| 18:04.48 | pompy | After the first compromise occurs on a Battle.net account, that account’s access to the Diablo III Real Money Auction House will be restricted until an authenticator is attached. If the account is compromised a second time, access to the Diablo III Real Money Auction House will be permanently revoked. |
| 18:07.43 | karl_w_w | old pompy |
| 18:08.54 | pompy | psh |
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| 18:48.58 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 18:48.59 | Fisker | umad? |
| 18:49.38 | bluspacecow | sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepkkzomgokbaibaiigobedzoomzommzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 18:49.57 | Stanzilla | Fisker: nope, why should i |
| 18:51.15 | Fisker | idk Stanzilla |
| 18:51.41 | Fisker | getting sgs3? |
| 18:53.45 | Thunder_Child | does star pact deal arcane dmg instead of fire? |
| 18:57.31 | karl_w_w | Thunder_Child: um, I don't think so, why would it? |
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| 18:58.43 | Stanzilla | nope Fisker |
| 19:00.01 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_w: they are in a loving relationship, but the groceries are still apart. |
| 19:05.17 | Fisker | why not Stanzilla ? |
| 19:05.23 | Stanzilla | still dont like it |
| 19:05.24 | Fisker | http://shop.fitbag.de/classic-schwarz-handytasche-aus-alcantara-mit-android-roboter-nach-mass.html <-you can get that for it |
| 19:10.24 | Maldivia | eurovision... and the male host is still creeping me out with his smile |
| 19:11.38 | Stanzilla | is there a live stream of it? |
| 19:12.20 | Maldivia | Stanzilla: http://www.eurovision.tv/esctv/main |
| 19:12.52 | foxlit | check your national broadcasters, too |
| 19:13.04 | Stanzilla | thanks |
| 19:13.36 | foxlit | the .tv stream was octoshape for the last few years, which is somewhat meh. |
| 19:13.44 | Maldivia | Stanzilla: or check ARD :P |
| 19:13.50 | Stanzilla | bah octoshape shit |
| 19:13.50 | Maldivia | don't know if they have online streams |
| 19:14.54 | Maldivia | Stanzilla: http://baku.soviet.tv/ |
| 19:15.47 | zenzelezz | wow, the first Eurovision song was actually decent |
| 19:16.37 | foxlit | zenzelezz: but also boring. |
| 19:16.47 | foxlit | Needs more explosions in the background, imo |
| 19:16.58 | zenzelezz | don't worry, they'll be there soon |
| 19:17.02 | Maldivia | what did you expect from a 76 year-old contestant |
| 19:17.12 | cbreak | "Sc%#!##@ the HTML of the D3 server status page is strictly prohibited. " -- Straton (Blue) |
| 19:17.14 | zenzelezz | so far he's my favourite |
| 19:17.15 | zenzelezz | ;-o |
| 19:17.21 | foxlit | see, those guys get it. Giant fireworks. |
| 19:17.42 | zenzelezz | cbreak: hah, took me a couple of reads before I got that |
| 19:18.06 | cbreak | well, he didn't say what was forbidden |
| 19:18.09 | cbreak | so I guess we can do that :) |
| 19:18.26 | zenzelezz | I can't really see why it would be though, that can't be a very large page |
| 19:18.34 | Stanzilla | that soviet stream is good |
| 19:20.20 | foxlit | but the lack of Terry Wogan is disturbing :( |
| 19:21.34 | Maldivia | that outfit... wtf... |
| 19:22.03 | Maldivia | .... and the hair used as a neck piece?! |
| 19:22.17 | Stanzilla | scary |
| 19:23.04 | Maldivia | but looks like jnwhiteh got two in the same row with that one :P |
| 19:23.40 | zenzelezz | what the heck did I just watch |
| 19:25.23 | Stanzilla | is that guy blind |
| 19:25.25 | Stanzilla | or just dumb? |
| 19:25.31 | Maldivia | love is blind |
| 19:25.33 | Stanzilla | oh maybe it's because of the song title |
| 19:25.34 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 19:25.42 | Stanzilla | still stupid |
| 19:25.43 | Maldivia | but very gimmicky |
| 19:25.48 | zenzelezz | still looks more like some kind of fetish |
| 19:26.07 | Maldivia | LOL |
| 19:26.09 | cbreak | I don't like this song. |
| 19:26.23 | Maldivia | he should have kept the blindfold on |
| 19:27.36 | Maldivia | cbreak: it started ok, but... |
| 19:27.57 | foxlit | https://twitter.com/#!/Queen_UK |
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| 19:29.26 | zenzelezz | I respect the people who sing in their own language, but by now, if you don't sing in English, you really need a fancy show to have any hope of winning |
| 19:29.28 | kd3 | oh, it's eurovision time, guess that means the rest of us get to have a look at how crazy europe is |
| 19:30.03 | zenzelezz | the secret no-one mentions is that we're like this all year; this is just when we make it public |
| 19:31.39 | cbreak | I liked greece last year |
| 19:31.53 | Maldivia | yay - grannies :P |
| 19:33.50 | foxlit | aside from the chorus, I have no idea what they're singing |
| 19:35.39 | zenzelezz | wow... they might as well cancel the rest of the show, those are clear winners |
| 19:40.51 | Stanzilla | omg bad voice |
| 19:41.36 | cbreak | boring pop music |
| 19:41.50 | Maldivia | booooring, yeah |
| 19:42.49 | Maldivia | was sitting wondering what the guy in black in the shadow was doing - that kind of tells you how boring it is :P |
| 19:43.08 | foxlit | backing vocals |
| 19:43.31 | Maldivia | yeah figured that out as well, but still, when that has your focus then the rest must be pretty dull |
| 19:44.34 | zenzelezz | true story |
| 19:45.19 | cbreak | about the french guy the comentator said "The only thing missing is a good song" |
| 19:45.45 | foxlit | they have an interesting music video, too |
| 19:45.46 | Maldivia | and a good vocal |
| 19:46.09 | Maldivia | well, missing a good vocal, that is |
| 19:46.59 | Fisker | why don't you like it Stanzilla ? |
| 19:47.28 | Stanzilla | because it looks bad |
| 19:48.02 | zenzelezz | so, might be a weird thing to say... but those dancers' outfits remind me of something Freddie Murcury wore |
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| 19:48.08 | zenzelezz | Mercury, jesus |
| 19:48.12 | zenzelezz | I am ashamed |
| 19:48.24 | cbreak | more curry! |
| 19:48.27 | Maldivia | just looked like gymnasts, but yeah - I see what you mean |
| 19:48.34 | Fisker | looks great Stanzilla |
| 19:48.53 | Maldivia | hello amy winehouse v2 |
| 19:49.01 | Maldivia | (looks wise) |
| 19:49.29 | cbreak | I relatively like it. Not the same synthesizer pop stuff as the last few. |
| 19:51.38 | zenzelezz | that's the one I was reminded of... http://www.dvd.nl/images/reviews/1109/shot3_large.jpg |
| 19:51.42 | zenzelezz | Live in Wembley |
| 19:55.24 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.36 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 19:55.52 | Maldivia | well, I liked it :P |
| 19:56.02 | zenzelezz | foxlit: lol |
| 19:56.20 | zenzelezz | the horror when it's your own country coming up (Norway) |
| 19:57.27 | foxlit | you're off the hook |
| 19:58.36 | Maldivia | he kind of reminds me a bit of adam lambert :P |
| 20:07.50 | Maldivia | ... ehh... no |
| 20:10.45 | Stanzilla | the german moderator is awesome |
| 20:11.23 | cbreak | Stanzilla: I think he doesn't like any of them |
| 20:11.51 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 20:12.23 | shifuimam | need help with something, even though it's for RoM...i have an addon that resizes a built-in frame in the game after VARIABLES_LOADED has fired |
| 20:12.32 | shifuimam | except that it's not resizing. everything else in the function works (e.g. printing debug messages) |
| 20:12.43 | shifuimam | i have to fire the function manually for it to resize |
| 20:12.52 | cbreak | shifuimam: do it later |
| 20:13.00 | cbreak | do it after player entering world or so |
| 20:13.04 | shifuimam | i'm trying to, but i can't see where to make it do it |
| 20:13.04 | shifuimam | hrm |
| 20:13.34 | nevcairiel | how would we know whats so special about RoM that it doesn't work? :) The most likely case is that the size is overwritten by the game again, so yeah, try later |
| 20:13.35 | shifuimam | ah like maybe LOADING_END? |
| 20:13.58 | cbreak | PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD or so. Not sure if there are any new events |
| 20:14.02 | cbreak | just pick the one that comes last |
| 20:14.23 | shifuimam | yeah, that's the part i don't know for sure - which event is last when loading |
| 20:14.25 | cbreak | maybe the one you have used is before what ever makes/resizes the frame resizes the frame back |
| 20:16.01 | Maldivia | layout is after all addons are loade |
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| 20:17.19 | cbreak | I haven't touched the WoW api in years. Back then, the event I mentioned above should be quite late |
| 20:17.35 | shifuimam | this is where i need more documentation on RoM's API |
| 20:17.41 | shifuimam | LOADING_END isn't it either. |
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| 20:21.33 | cbreak | player entering world was too early too? |
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| 20:22.53 | shifuimam | there is no function for that |
| 20:22.55 | shifuimam | not in ROM, at least |
| 20:23.09 | cbreak | function? |
| 20:23.12 | cbreak | just use that event |
| 20:23.14 | shifuimam | event |
| 20:23.16 | shifuimam | sorry, meant event |
| 20:23.28 | cbreak | what ROM has is quite irrelevant |
| 20:23.36 | shifuimam | ? |
| 20:24.06 | cbreak | it should work |
| 20:24.14 | shifuimam | PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD? |
| 20:24.18 | cbreak | yeah |
| 20:25.02 | Maldivia | ...turkey... ehh.... vampire dance? |
| 20:25.08 | cbreak | (Turkey's offering is weird) |
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| 20:26.00 | cbreak | the comentator called the the selection curageous... |
| 20:26.13 | cbreak | I think the guys who dare to wear such clothes really are |
| 20:26.40 | Maldivia | well... not everyone can wear a cape |
| 20:27.03 | cbreak | on the other hand |
| 20:27.33 | cbreak | http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wingsuit |
| 20:27.44 | shifuimam | imma say that that event doesn't exist |
| 20:28.06 | shifuimam | added a debug to print when that event was triggered..nothin |
| 20:28.08 | Maldivia | cbreak: well, I'll still call it vampire outfit :P |
| 20:28.32 | cbreak | shifuimam: I used it a lot back in outland |
| 20:28.40 | shifuimam | outland? |
| 20:28.40 | cbreak | I doubt blizz removed it |
| 20:28.43 | shifuimam | oh |
| 20:28.44 | shifuimam | sorry |
| 20:28.48 | shifuimam | mentioned earlier - i'm writing for RoM, not WoW |
| 20:28.53 | shifuimam | so the API is nearly identical but not exact |
| 20:28.57 | cbreak | rom isn't a wow expansion? |
| 20:29.02 | shifuimam | lol no |
| 20:29.08 | cbreak | hmm... alright. |
| 20:30.11 | Maldivia | runes of magic - or something like that, they've basucally just copy-pasted the wow api |
| 20:30.19 | shifuimam | ++ pretty much |
| 20:30.22 | shifuimam | although some useful bits are missing |
| 20:30.34 | shifuimam | like player entering world. so i can't get the stuipd quest tracker to resize on load |
| 20:30.44 | shifuimam | i had it working before, but the way i was doing it was causing a stack overflow |
| 20:31.30 | cbreak | do you have update events? |
| 20:31.36 | cbreak | frame onupdate? |
| 20:32.07 | shifuimam | yep |
| 20:32.09 | cbreak | or this one: http://www.wowwiki.com/UIHANDLER_OnShow |
| 20:32.16 | cbreak | just resize it on show |
| 20:32.18 | shifuimam | yep |
| 20:32.24 | shifuimam | that's what i've been trying |
| 20:32.28 | shifuimam | for some reason, that doens't work |
| 20:32.37 | Maldivia | for germany... so if you can't grow chest hair, you get it tattooed instead? |
| 20:32.52 | cbreak | boring. |
| 20:33.06 | cbreak | shifuimam: if you want to use on-update, make it a timer |
| 20:33.09 | shifuimam | this is my entire code: http://codepad.org/21njAOPk |
| 20:33.12 | cbreak | accumulate deltas until you have 5 seconds or so |
| 20:33.19 | cbreak | then fire your code and unregister on update |
| 20:33.21 | shifuimam | i have QTR_Debug() running at OnShow for the tracker |
| 20:33.27 | cbreak | if you use on show then just do it when shown |
| 20:33.32 | shifuimam | and debug statements printing for all the functions called. every funtion is being called |
| 20:33.43 | Maldivia | shifuimam: ZONE_CHANGED ? |
| 20:33.45 | shifuimam | if i run the resizing function (QTR_Resize()) manually, it works fine |
| 20:33.46 | cbreak | all functions? |
| 20:33.48 | shifuimam | Maldivia: tried that |
| 20:33.54 | shifuimam | QTR_Resize and QTR_ResizeFunc |
| 20:34.18 | cbreak | so it works? |
| 20:34.18 | cbreak | OnShow works? |
| 20:34.20 | shifuimam | that's just it |
| 20:34.28 | shifuimam | all the functions are being triggered, yes |
| 20:34.30 | shifuimam | but it's not actually resizing |
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| 20:34.36 | cbreak | can you query the size? |
| 20:34.37 | shifuimam | lines 60 and 61 |
| 20:34.48 | shifuimam | ev erything else works |
| 20:34.52 | shifuimam | yep |
| 20:35.16 | cbreak | then print the size before you resize |
| 20:35.18 | cbreak | after you resize |
| 20:35.23 | cbreak | and then later when it's actually shown |
| 20:36.50 | foxlit | I wonder what's with the stuttering |
| 20:37.11 | Maldivia | eh eh eh eh eh |
| 20:37.30 | foxlit | the swedes are to blame, surely |
| 20:37.48 | Maldivia | well, they wrote half the songs, so would be a good guess |
| 20:40.34 | shifuimam | does it ever get BAD to rely on OnUpdate() |
| 20:40.40 | shifuimam | seems like with so many addons using that, it could cause problems |
| 20:40.57 | Maldivia | well, you can always remove it when you're done with it |
| 20:41.06 | cbreak | shifuimam: OnUpdate is a hack |
| 20:41.41 | Maldivia | cbreak: but if you want to catch the first frame draw after load, that's the way to do it |
| 20:42.01 | cbreak | I'd wait more than one frame |
| 20:42.11 | cbreak | well, maybe the first is late enough |
| 20:42.34 | shifuimam | well, how do i kill it after the first couple frames |
| 20:42.40 | shifuimam | just set a variable? |
| 20:42.47 | Maldivia | remove the handler? |
| 20:42.56 | cbreak | yep |
| 20:43.02 | Mikk | remove handler or hide the frame |
| 20:43.12 | shifuimam | i'd be lying if i said i knew how to do that :( |
| 20:43.14 | shifuimam | removing the handler, that is |
| 20:43.21 | Mikk | frame:SetScript("OnUpdate", nil) |
| 20:43.32 | Maldivia | go Jedward.. :) |
| 20:43.48 | Mikk | not that the nil is needed =P |
| 20:43.48 | cbreak | he doesn't like ireland. |
| 20:43.58 | shifuimam | hm |
| 20:44.15 | cbreak | whoa... eighties sci-fi clothes |
| 20:44.22 | foxlit | who could possibly dislike ireland? |
| 20:44.30 | Maldivia | cbreak: you don't know who jedward is, I take it :P |
| 20:44.51 | cbreak | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedward, now I do. |
| 20:46.31 | shifuimam | so, can too many addons with OnUpdate() code break things? |
| 20:46.36 | shifuimam | just in general.. |
| 20:46.39 | Maldivia | yes |
| 20:46.42 | cbreak | resource consumption is high. |
| 20:46.43 | foxlit | okay, so, Ireland winds. |
| 20:46.50 | foxlit | s/ds/d/ |
| 20:46.54 | foxlit | ... |
| 20:46.55 | foxlit | wins! |
| 20:46.56 | cbreak | foxlit: I don't think so |
| 20:46.56 | shifuimam | just about everyone addon out there seems to use it, though |
| 20:47.20 | cbreak | shifuimam: maybe noob addon devs :) |
| 20:47.26 | shifuimam | hah |
| 20:47.29 | cbreak | onupdate is only really required for hacks, or animations |
| 20:47.32 | shifuimam | what else can you use when you need something that uses a timer, though |
| 20:47.38 | cbreak | and even then you should do rate limitting with the deltas |
| 20:48.11 | cbreak | I made a timer library some time ago that was nice callback based |
| 20:48.26 | cbreak | and encapsulated everything into an internal event queue |
| 20:48.32 | cbreak | only used it once... |
| 20:48.32 | shifuimam | fancy |
| 20:48.35 | shifuimam | i'm not that cool |
| 20:48.47 | cbreak | was probably a waste of time :) |
| 20:48.47 | foxlit | it's like 10 lines of code. |
| 20:49.02 | cbreak | foxlit: I think it was more like 20 |
| 20:49.22 | shifuimam | well, using a hidden frame and hiding it worked fine |
| 20:49.30 | shifuimam | except that it only resets the height correctly. not the width |
| 20:49.34 | shifuimam | facepalms |
| 20:49.48 | cbreak | in wow, hidden frames don't get events |
| 20:50.39 | Maldivia | they get events, but not onupdate |
| 20:50.41 | cbreak | hmm... those now are not bad. |
| 20:52.37 | shifuimam | frame that's invisible then hidden after i'm done with it |
| 20:52.50 | shifuimam | it's actualyl resetting the saved width to the default (190) |
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| 20:57.14 | Maldivia | ok - that is really cute :P |
| 20:57.39 | cbreak | not convinced. |
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| 20:58.02 | shifuimam | ? |
| 20:58.22 | Maldivia | he looks cute ,the performance and dancers look cute - as for the song... meh |
| 20:59.19 | cbreak | the comentator doesn't like them either :) |
| 20:59.29 | Maldivia | shocker! |
| 20:59.40 | cbreak | he liked germany... what a surprise... |
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| 21:07.44 | cbreak | iceland, italy, serbia are on my not-totally-bad list |
| 21:12.34 | Maldivia | I'm just affraid Russia will get way too many votes |
| 21:13.04 | shifuimam | i don't suppose there's an easy way to get the name of a widget that only shows when you hover over it, is there |
| 21:13.50 | Maldivia | GetMouseFocus |
| 21:14.12 | foxlit | hm, I wonder why the backing vocal track is going all "Shine Shine Shine Shine Shine" |
| 21:15.44 | zenzelezz | I remember a time when the search feature of Windows actually worked |
| 21:17.59 | cbreak | like spotlight? :) |
| 21:18.30 | cbreak | I remember microsoft wanting to do away with traditional folder structures with windows vista |
| 21:18.47 | cbreak | and go all the way to databases with their new windows database filesystem |
| 21:18.52 | Thunder_Child | everything > * |
| 21:18.52 | cbreak | WinFS or so? |
| 21:18.54 | Thunder_Child | for searching |
| 21:24.24 | Maldivia | Azerbaijan should have used this as their song in the contest |
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| 21:55.08 | zenzelezz | I can't help but love it when countries get 0 points. Must suck sitting there waiting desperately for points |
| 21:55.17 | zenzelezz | though I think I'd rather have 0 than ~1-10... pity points |
| 21:56.21 | foxlit | pity points are impossible, since you don't know the results before you vote. |
| 21:57.21 | Maldivia | foxlit: neighbour countries almost always give eachother points |
| 21:57.38 | foxlit | yes, but one would be hard-pressed to say that those are out of pity. |
| 22:07.24 | foxlit | okay, cancel that voting round, next eurovision contest to be hosted by that guy from Finland. |
| 22:07.41 | Maldivia | foxlit: Lordi ? they won a few years back |
| 22:08.16 | Maldivia | foxlit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAh9NRGNhUU |
| 22:08.25 | foxlit | I'm well aware |
| 22:09.36 | Maldivia | well, I can say I don't agree at all with the points :P |
| 22:10.29 | Maldivia | but sweden can't loose, even if they get 0 from the rest |
| 22:10.51 | Maldivia | lose* |
| 22:20.26 | Cide | suck it nubs |
| 22:22.21 | Maldivia | Cide: traiters! |
| 22:22.42 | Cide | or maybe your song just sucked! |
| 22:22.43 | Maldivia | well, traitors :) |
| 22:22.51 | foxlit | that song *did* suck. |
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| 22:53.31 | Humbedooh | yay for Sweden! |
| 22:53.44 | Humbedooh | and yay for Denmark almost getting zero points :D |
| 22:53.48 | mikma | what did it do now |
| 22:54.06 | Humbedooh | you know..the song thingy |
| 22:54.11 | mikma | had a euphoria? |
| 22:54.17 | Humbedooh | ! |
| 22:57.39 | shifuimam | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:57.43 | shifuimam | like an input box inside a container frame |
| 23:02.12 | Mikk | yes, setpoint left relative to left, right relative to right |
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