| 00:00.19 | bluspacecow | ~d3alert |
| 00:00.20 | purl | http://us.launcher.battle.net/service/d3/alert/en-us (US) or http://eu.launcher.battle.net/service/d3/alert/en-gb (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
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| 00:17.09 | foxlit | http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/u0whj/show_dont_tell_diablo_3s_storytelling_failures/ << the comments are amusing |
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| 00:22.25 | Mr_Rabies | diablo 3's story is way better than D1 or D2's IMO |
| 00:22.28 | Mr_Rabies | D2 was a huge mess |
| 00:22.47 | TC-Work | he is not arguing that, he is talking how it is delivered |
| 00:23.04 | Mr_Rabies | it failed to capture the really dark stuff in D1, and D3's a return to that |
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| 00:23.57 | nilyaK | maybe if you turn the gamma way down... |
| 00:24.19 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 00:24.22 | foxlit | I don't care about the main point. The comments are un, though. |
| 00:24.23 | foxlit | *fun |
| 00:26.14 | foxlit | things like http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/u0whj/show_dont_tell_diablo_3s_storytelling_failures/c4rh1km |
| 00:28.10 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:28.19 | nilyaK | if you know what I mean? |
| 00:28.35 | xyphoid | i loved the 'DELAY THEM WHILE I RETREAT TO MY SECRET BASE IN THE BASEMENT' line from whatsername |
| 00:29.22 | nilyaK | Find Andariel in the depths of the monastery catacombs. |
| 00:29.31 | foxlit | you're botching that line a bit. |
| 00:29.49 | xyphoid | didn't she literally say where she was teleporting to |
| 00:30.01 | foxlit | nope. |
| 00:30.26 | foxlit | she did, though, conveniently pop in and say "HAHA I HAVE YOUR FRIENDS NOW!" right above a waypoint. |
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| 00:30.31 | nilyaK | logs off... food stuff. |
| 00:31.04 | foxlit | The quote you were thinking of goes more along the lines of "delay him while I prepare his demise" which is somewhat reasonable -- have to find a butcher somewhere on short notice. |
| 00:31.17 | xyphoid | i was sure she said 'below' or something hmm |
| 00:31.52 | foxlit | hm, google should know |
| 00:33.28 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: http://imgur.com/r/funny/vWqA8 |
| 00:33.45 | Cairenn | awww, poor goats |
| 00:33.56 | foxlit | xyphoid: you're right, "depths below" was part of it. |
| 00:34.14 | foxlit | but that still seems reasonable -- if you're preparing someone's demise, you probably want them to be there. |
| 00:34.59 | xyphoid | i just thought it was funny, if she wanted to delay me, she could have said 'delay him while i retreat to my secret base in the flayer jungle!' |
| 00:35.09 | xyphoid | and my pc would have been OKAY SEE YOU THERE |
| 00:35.26 | foxlit | butbut! no demise! |
| 00:36.49 | TC-Work | xyphoid: i read that as pc = computer, so in my mind it was "delay him by spawing 100,00,000 particle effects and flipbooking the game." |
| 00:37.13 | xyphoid | how very Joker |
| 00:38.53 | xyphoid | i still don't really get what magda was doing |
| 00:39.15 | xyphoid | she was stealing tyreal's sword and tyreal in order to ... ? |
| 00:42.07 | foxlit | belial likes shiny things |
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| 00:44.01 | Mr_Rabies | probably to keep tyrael from recovering it |
| 00:44.13 | Mr_Rabies | it shows immense power once it's put together |
| 00:45.03 | foxlit | not that there aren't issues with the sort. Why, for instance, did it wake up leoric? |
| 00:45.12 | foxlit | sword. |
| 00:45.43 | foxlit | I suppose you could fix some of the underlying motivations by assuming belial and asmodan actually suspect what's going on. |
| 00:45.43 | clever | foxlit: i think it was mentioned that as his power left his body, he lost control of it |
| 00:46.05 | Mr_Rabies | basically crazy angelic power nuked the area when he landed |
| 00:46.17 | foxlit | clever: I think that some line continued to suggest that it awoke the spirits of unjustly slain |
| 00:46.24 | Mr_Rabies | oh yeah |
| 00:47.20 | Mr_Rabies | since he's the archangel of justice, those who rose from the dead in the cathedral were those killed unjustly, mostly by diablo i assume |
| 00:48.01 | foxlit | leoric doesn't fit nicely into that, though |
| 00:49.51 | foxlit | I think the sword/angel kidnapping is just low-level villainy. "Hey, that's shiny and look what it did to that cathedral! Must have it!" |
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| 00:59.04 | Mr_Rabies | leoric's reign of terror and subsequent death was a result of a series of injustices by diablo/lazarus, i think it fits |
| 01:03.19 | TC-Work | i need more wakeup juice |
| 01:06.17 | bluspacecow | i started typing something about tipping 2L of a populor energy drink down your throat but the choice of ED made it sound all weird |
| 01:06.20 | bluspacecow | Cairenn: http://i.minus.com/i3UNbmcbRXftf.gif |
| 01:07.03 | Cairenn | heh, yeah, I've seen that before |
| 01:07.31 | foxlit | "eoeiny" "Did you mean: boeing" |
| 01:07.39 | foxlit | I wonder how it got to boeing |
| 01:07.43 | TC-Work | bluspacecow: that is a lot of juice |
| 01:08.03 | foxlit | also wonder what I was actually typing |
| 01:08.50 | foxlit | should totally make an app to scan for off-by-one-key errors |
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| 01:14.04 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:20.32 | kd3 | neat; http://i.imgur.com/yTSOU.jpg |
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| 01:45.24 | pompy | http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/536849_10101374204400210_4945529_67785373_1413999079_n.jpg |
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| 02:02.46 | pompy | dammmnn auction house still offline to address an issue. |
| 02:03.26 | TC-Work | the fact that blizz is not making enough monies? |
| 02:09.01 | Dagmar | Pompy: I think they finally noticed that having gems sell as a market resource simply takes a bad race condition, and jackhammers it into one's own ass |
| 02:13.13 | clever | pompy: str and intel, what class would get use from such a mess? |
| 02:13.38 | Dagmar | The "useless carry" class |
| 02:13.50 | Dagmar | I just vendor those combinations |
| 02:14.03 | clever | Dagmar: id atleast salvage them |
| 02:14.10 | Dagmar | No need. |
| 02:14.14 | Dagmar | Unless they're yellow, screw it |
| 02:14.29 | clever | Dagmar: its a rare dagger |
| 02:14.41 | pompy | clever: yar thats silly |
| 02:14.59 | clever | kinda makes me think, i should review the stats on all items i'm trying to AH |
| 02:15.03 | clever | and see if they are even usefull |
| 02:15.12 | TC-Work | clever: tanky barbs can use it |
| 02:15.24 | TC-Work | resistance is resistance. |
| 02:15.46 | bluspacecow | templars across from a barrell from a horror |
| 02:15.53 | bluspacecow | not doing anything just hanging there |
| 02:16.05 | bluspacecow | like they're hanging out over coffee or something |
| 02:16.35 | Dagmar | At least since it's yellow it can be salvaged for some teeth |
| 02:17.01 | Dagmar | I wonder if when they bring the AH back up will we find out we've been benefiting from a serious pricing bug with gems |
| 02:17.11 | Dagmar | Seems like maybe too many of them are dropping or somethign |
| 02:17.45 | Dagmar | Somehow I don't think it was their intention for us to be able to buy gems in the AH for less than it costs to have C. Shen to make them |
| 02:19.27 | clever | Dagmar: where do the pages for training drop? |
| 02:19.34 | xyphoid | i can't see any way for low end gems to be worth anything, unless they remove higher gem drops from later difficulties |
| 02:19.34 | clever | ive not seen a single page, anywhere |
| 02:19.40 | xyphoid | i see pages in nightmare a lot |
| 02:19.53 | clever | ah, i'm still on normal, maybe thats why |
| 02:20.09 | Dagmar | I got two in Whimsyshire |
| 02:20.33 | Dagmar | I don't trust those clouds one bit. |
| 02:20.51 | xyphoid | i've picked up ~30 doing acts 1-2 NM |
| 02:21.13 | Arrowmaster | i need tomes of secrets now, i dont think they drop tell inferno |
| 02:21.49 | Dagmar | I'd say to just buy 'em, but... |
| 02:22.13 | Arrowmaster | i dont buy things when i can just loot them |
| 02:22.46 | Dagmar | So how's that looting thing workin' out for ya |
| 02:22.58 | Arrowmaster | im upto just needing tomes of secrets |
| 02:23.14 | Arrowmaster | its not like i need the blacksmith or jeweler for anything yet |
| 02:23.24 | Wobin | yeah, Whimsyshire is a good place to farm pages |
| 02:23.56 | Arrowmaster | pages also drop in nightmare whimsyshire |
| 02:24.02 | Arrowmaster | waste of 200k |
| 02:27.56 | clever | looks hard to enter |
| 02:28.05 | clever | and didnt one of the quotes at the loading screen say there is no cow level? :P |
| 02:28.13 | Arrowmaster | there is no cow level |
| 02:28.23 | Arrowmaster | and its not hard to enter |
| 02:28.34 | Arrowmaster | i just walk upto the cow kings corpse and enter |
| 02:28.53 | clever | the wiki says you need some rare drops and blacksmith plans |
| 02:29.03 | clever | http://www.diablowiki.net/Whimsyshire#Required_Ingredients |
| 02:29.14 | Arrowmaster | yeah i had them last week |
| 02:29.18 | Dagmar | Welll... You need the legacy drops |
| 02:29.25 | Dagmar | You've probably seen at least one of them by now |
| 02:29.36 | bluspacecow | its not exactly a cow level realy |
| 02:29.44 | bluspacecow | more like a my little pony level |
| 02:29.46 | clever | not that ive noticed, but i may have vendored a dozen of them by now :P |
| 02:29.51 | Dagmar | It's not a cow level at all |
| 02:30.01 | Dagmar | clever: No, these items would get your attention |
| 02:30.13 | Dagmar | Some of them are "rare" items from Diablo 2. |
| 02:30.16 | clever | ah |
| 02:30.17 | xyphoid | also they can't be vendored i think |
| 02:30.23 | Dagmar | One is a bottle of rainbow juice or something |
| 02:30.25 | clever | and i see some of my wowmapviewer utils i made work on D3 |
| 02:30.40 | Dagmar | Adria's black mushroom and so on |
| 02:31.41 | clever | Recipe\GemCombine_Topaz_08_09.rcp |
| 02:31.48 | clever | Recipe\Smith_StaffofCow.rcp |
| 02:31.56 | clever | lol, ctrl+c'd it at the perfect spot! |
| 02:32.19 | Dagmar | Sounds like the thing to me |
| 02:32.34 | clever | Actor\StaffOfCow.acr |
| 02:32.54 | clever | i wonder if anybody has started d3 map viewers? |
| 02:33.09 | Dagmar | There's not much point |
| 02:33.15 | bluspacecow | holy crap. you can mouse over various stats in your inventory window to get more info on them |
| 02:33.20 | Dagmar | With a few exceptions, it doesn't have "set" maps |
| 02:33.29 | Dagmar | bluspacecow: Yes. |
| 02:33.35 | TC-Work | ~fail bluspacecow |
| 02:33.35 | purl | You suck at everything in life, bluspacecow. I hate you because you fail. |
| 02:33.35 | clever | Dagmar: i wondered about that, but most of the zones i looked closely at where the same |
| 02:33.38 | bluspacecow | interesting |
| 02:33.52 | clever | Dagmar: i guess a model viewer would still be usefull |
| 02:34.02 | Dagmar | Blizz has caught onto the whole "If you're going to make people juggle numbers, tell them what the numbers do in the client or forum tards will make up insane shit." |
| 02:34.16 | mckenziemc | ~bonk bluspacecow #wowuidev |
| 02:34.16 | purl | ACTION bonks #wowuidev over the head on behalf of bluspacecow |
| 02:34.23 | mckenziemc | oops : / |
| 02:34.34 | bluspacecow | ~bonk #wowuidev bluspacecow |
| 02:34.34 | purl | ACTION bonks bluspacecow over the head on behalf of #wowuidev |
| 02:34.48 | Dagmar | clever: The outer shape of the outdoor zones appears to be mostly constant. Everything _inside_ it on the other hand, changes wildly |
| 02:35.07 | clever | Dagmar: ah |
| 02:35.37 | clever | Tutorial\Minimap.tut |
| 02:35.42 | clever | it had tutorials? |
| 02:35.47 | Dagmar | The same whatever trigger that makes the vendors reinventory also re-randomizes zones |
| 02:36.07 | Dagmar | Although sometimes there's fun oopses |
| 02:36.49 | Dagmar | So like, during Act II when you're trying to rescue the people at the Bazaar and lead htem to the sewer tunnel... when you've completed it, don't go ahead to the next map point. |
| 02:37.06 | Dagmar | Go back down into the sewer yourself. Free white chest. |
| 02:37.24 | xyphoid | oh is that one the one people were farming |
| 02:37.28 | clever | i went back into the tunnel thinking that was where you where supposed to go :P |
| 02:37.32 | clever | dont remember if i saw the chest |
| 02:37.39 | Dagmar | I don't know about farming it. |
| 02:37.48 | Dagmar | You'd ahve to reset the thing to get it again |
| 02:37.59 | Dagmar | It's considerably easier to just farm outdoor zones |
| 02:38.33 | Dagmar | They've usually got 2-4 random encounter points in them each |
| 02:39.22 | Dagmar | If you can find one in the outdoor zone next to an _instanced_ zone (like someone's cellar) you can go into the instsanced zone, Town Portal, come back, and it will have reset the encounter |
| 02:39.24 | clever | weird, the tutorial files i found are all 60 bytes |
| 02:41.03 | clever | *peeks at sound.mpq!* |
| 02:41.36 | Dagmar | You *might* be able to do the same stunt by going into the palacce and tp'ing there, but it's still a white chest. Barely worth the effort |
| 02:41.45 | bluspacecow | *sound.mpq squels YOU PERVERT* |
| 02:41.47 | Dagmar | Easier to just make a nonky |
| 02:41.48 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.54 | Dagmar | er monk |
| 02:43.55 | clever | bluspacecow: seems to be custom, .mus and .snd files |
| 02:44.57 | clever | and the .snd has too many strings :S |
| 02:53.29 | pompy | Torhal: finding the menus exciting? ;) |
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| 03:40.36 | TC-Work | I am amused, my package left Hodgkins, IN, United States and arrived in Hodgkins, IL, United States |
| 03:40.49 | pompy | haha |
| 03:41.40 | pompy | TC-Work: http://community.us.playstation.com/thread/898676?start=0&tstart=0 |
| 03:41.53 | pompy | http://www.galaxynexusforum.com/forum/off-topic-forum/2206-where-hodgkins.html |
| 03:41.55 | pompy | lol |
| 03:42.50 | pompy | "However, it is not a city or town, but a UPS waypoint off exit 1 on the Indiana Turnpike where double-bottom trucks switch to or from triple bottoms--allowable in IN and OH. " |
| 03:44.48 | pompy | "A large United Parcel Service sorting facility, known as CACH, is located partly in Hodgkins and partly in nearby Willow Springs on the outskirts of Chicago. CACH employs over 9,000 people, and is the "largest package sorting center in the world" |
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| 03:55.56 | kd3 | I guess this means mars is getting six more weeks of winter? http://www.space.com/15845-mars-rover-shadow-picture.html |
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| 04:10.08 | Arrowmaster | super major lag spike in d3 |
| 04:10.41 | Arrow|phone | Cable went out right as I found kulles body on hell |
| 04:11.59 | TC-Work | I dont remember murphy playying D3 |
| 04:12.42 | Arrow|phone | And I think it went out again |
| 04:14.46 | Arrow|phone | So maphack is impossible in d3, im looking at a place with no floor because I ran to it after the cable went out again |
| 04:18.17 | pompy | Arrow|phone: what level were you and how much dps did you have when you go to butcher nightmare |
| 04:19.02 | Arrowmaster | i was over 30 and doing at least 1.3k dps |
| 04:19.24 | Arrowmaster | just get venom hydra and all bosses are cake |
| 04:19.38 | Arrowmaster | on hell he was a fucking pushover |
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| 04:31.28 | Arrowmaster | wow on hell the ceiling falling during the fight with kulle does a LOT of damage |
| 04:33.14 | Wobin | What's the general set of rules of "What to put on an SSD"? |
| 04:33.25 | Wobin | or "What not to ..." |
| 04:33.42 | bluspacecow | http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/get-on-the-bus-devolver-digitals-innovative-strategy-for-finding-new-talent |
| 04:33.55 | bluspacecow | interesting way of scouting new developers |
| 04:34.30 | Wobin | bluspacecow: meh |
| 04:34.36 | Wobin | Atlassian have done that already |
| 04:34.44 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 04:34.47 | Wobin | to get developers |
| 04:34.52 | Dagmar | "OH yeah, just ignore the camera... we're just goin' out for a ride..." |
| 04:34.55 | Wobin | They took a bus to -Europe- |
| 04:35.02 | bluspacecow | wot |
| 04:35.08 | Wobin | and went to Madrid/Paris/etc |
| 04:35.20 | bluspacecow | daym lol |
| 04:35.43 | Dagmar | This isn't an appropriate channel for spamvertising. |
| 04:35.48 | Dagmar | @#$@ wrong channel |
| 04:35.53 | Dagmar | Gonna kill me some Mojangsters |
| 04:36.05 | bluspacecow | fire at will my friend fire at will |
| 04:36.15 | bluspacecow | will you be needing the orbital cannon today ? |
| 04:36.19 | Dagmar | One freaking tweeted a webchat link to freenode's #minecraft |
| 04:36.28 | bluspacecow | *laser |
| 04:36.29 | Wobin | nooooooooooooo |
| 04:36.36 | Dagmar | Now I feel like a guy standing atop a bus with a can of gas having to "make a decision" |
| 04:36.52 | pompy | mitch0: "Tonight is Dragon’s first flyby of the Space Station at a distance of 2.5km—watch live on NASA TV starting at 11:30 PM PT" |
| 04:37.47 | kd3 | oh, ick |
| 04:37.52 | kd3 | switches tabs and scrolls up |
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| 04:49.36 | Wobin | oh man |
| 04:49.41 | Wobin | poor #minecraft =( |
| 04:49.44 | Wobin | it was so peaceful |
| 04:51.04 | Dagmar | I'm just sitting here, comfortable in the knowledge that I can +q *webchat* any time it becomes necessary |
| 04:52.40 | Dagmar | Hit & run advertising is lame |
| 04:54.26 | Dagmar | I could probably also just type /me has requested a bot-kick to clear the channel. Please press CTRL-W now to avoid being kicked. |
| 04:54.47 | Dagmar | They would have no idea. |
| 04:54.49 | karl_w_w | tests |
| 04:55.03 | karl_w_w | ctrl + w does nothing :( |
| 04:55.11 | Dagmar | I have murdered so many browser windows accidentally that way |
| 04:56.53 | Arrowmaster | belial is such a noob, he stood in the venom hydra |
| 05:00.01 | karl_w_w | no you are |
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| 05:14.39 | Wobin | your mom is a venom hydra |
| 05:19.07 | Adys | Arrowmaster: which diff? |
| 05:19.12 | Arrowmaster | hell |
| 05:19.25 | Adys | i had to give up on inferno belial tonight |
| 05:19.31 | Adys | p1 is impossible for my gear level |
| 05:30.50 | Thunder_Child | ~lart kd3 |
| 05:30.50 | purl | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at kd3 |
| 05:31.59 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 05:33.57 | Fisker | :( |
| 05:34.52 | Thunder_Child | lol Fisker |
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| 05:46.31 | karl_w_w | gsub(everything,Fisker,select(random(),SugarnSpicenAllThingsNice))) |
| 05:54.04 | pompy | AH is enabled |
| 06:01.27 | Fisker | old is old |
| 06:08.31 | Jamash | http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5149151723#1 |
| 06:08.35 | Jamash | AH is broken |
| 06:09.27 | nilyaK | I thought it was working as intended. |
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| 06:12.51 | Jamash | is it intended to be broken? |
| 06:13.31 | Sintacks | "This discussion was brought up in BETA." "and what was the conclusion?" "Americans should use the metric system." |
| 06:13.32 | Sintacks | i lol'd |
| 06:13.51 | nilyaK | it's intended to be working as inteneded, it's exceeding expectations. |
| 06:15.07 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: wow is the same way |
| 06:15.19 | Jamash | I know |
| 06:15.23 | Jamash | it irritates me there too |
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| 06:36.04 | clever | Jamash: whats to say the wizard ingame is of average humman height? |
| 06:37.17 | nilyaK | because they're all that height |
| 06:37.49 | clever | they could all just be really tall, compared to real people |
| 06:37.59 | clever | which would then mess up the math in the first post |
| 06:38.08 | nilyaK | oh I thought we were comparing them to d3 characters in general |
| 06:38.12 | Jamash | yes, everyone could be 17 feet tall |
| 06:39.15 | pompy | http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/ustream.html |
| 06:39.24 | clever | i dont think the first post took camera angle into account either |
| 06:39.31 | clever | the wizard in the picture isnt laying flat on the ground |
| 06:40.02 | Jamash | maybe by "yard" they mean "yard of ale" and it's a measure of drunkenness |
| 06:40.10 | Jamash | It's an estimate, clever |
| 06:40.38 | Jamash | which is why I used "more like" and "about" |
| 06:42.17 | Jamash | pompy: cool |
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| 06:43.12 | Jamash | so, I was wrong about salvaging vs selling |
| 06:43.23 | Jamash | I have so much normal mode salvage I'm selling magic items now |
| 06:44.51 | Thunder_Child | how much is 'much'? |
| 06:45.02 | Jamash | hundreds |
| 06:45.03 | Thunder_Child | i do lots of crafting for alts |
| 06:45.07 | Thunder_Child | i had 400 |
| 06:45.17 | Thunder_Child | went through it rather fast |
| 06:45.27 | Jamash | 922 subtle essence |
| 06:45.50 | Jamash | got about half of that grinding for the staff |
| 06:47.04 | Jamash | I'd compare the AH price vs the vendor pice of the items but AH commodities are offline |
| 06:48.24 | clever | Jamash: i think i was selling my subtle essence for 20 each |
| 06:48.43 | karl_w_w | <Jamash> so, I was wrong about salvaging vs selling <- what were u wrong about |
| 06:50.41 | clever | Jamash: vendor selling or ah selling? |
| 06:52.23 | Jamash | I was saying there's no reason to vendor items |
| 06:52.29 | Jamash | because money is so easy to get |
| 06:52.36 | Jamash | but I have mucho essence and I'm poor |
| 06:52.40 | Jamash | because of the staff |
| 06:54.54 | Jamash | if not for that 150k I'd have plenty of money though |
| 06:56.22 | Arrowmaster | ive spent 350k on the staff, have 2 full tabs in the stash, both artisans are upgraded to the point of needing tomes of secrets, and if it wasnt for a few good sells on the AH i would have nothing |
| 07:00.05 | zenzio | watching a user test (whatever the correct word is in English) was surprisingly fun... seeing the eye tracking and (for good and bad) seeing how well or unwell things worked |
| 07:15.21 | Jamash | 350k on the staff? |
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| 07:15.40 | Wobin | Nightmare version? |
| 07:15.43 | Maldivia | nm version |
| 07:15.45 | Jamash | what |
| 07:15.52 | Wobin | Nightmare version costs 200k |
| 07:15.53 | Jamash | WHAT |
| 07:15.57 | Wobin | plus the Normal staff |
| 07:15.58 | tlund | trying to buy some pages of blacksmithing - price keeps jumping between 100 and 235, wtf? :) |
| 07:16.00 | Jamash | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
| 07:16.08 | Wobin | Hell is 500k |
| 07:16.12 | Wobin | and Inferno is 1mil |
| 07:16.14 | Jamash | do I have to grind out the whole thing again? |
| 07:16.16 | Wobin | no |
| 07:16.18 | Wobin | just the gold |
| 07:16.20 | Jamash | oh |
| 07:16.21 | Jamash | ok |
| 07:16.23 | Jamash | whew |
| 07:16.32 | Wobin | (I -think-) |
| 07:16.57 | Maldivia | so if you want all 4 staffs, you have to farm the mats 4 times |
| 07:16.58 | Wobin | because I just saw someone on reddit saying "I'm in front of the chest for the liquid rainbow in Hell, if anyone wants" |
| 07:17.01 | Wobin | and that confused me |
| 07:17.09 | Maldivia | you loose nirmal when upgrading |
| 07:17.10 | Wobin | Maldivia: no, I believe it's one staff to rule them all |
| 07:17.15 | Wobin | really? |
| 07:17.16 | Wobin | bah |
| 07:17.42 | Maldivia | ohh, nm version can open normal portal ? |
| 07:18.42 | Wobin | I have no idea. Ask Mr Master |
| 07:18.48 | Wobin | I just assumed |
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| 07:57.54 | karl_w_w | why would u want to go to the lower level version anyway |
| 07:58.38 | zenzio | to be truly hardcore |
| 07:59.00 | zenzio | you completed hell, eh? I completed hell in normal gear! |
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| 10:12.43 | Fisker | Stanzilla my man? |
| 10:19.36 | karl_w_w | Fisker my boy |
| 10:23.07 | nilyaK | beats Fisker with a stream of packets. |
| 10:27.56 | bluspacecow | Fisker my girl. |
| 10:32.07 | Wobin | haste: http://i.imgur.com/j2cYm.jpg |
| 10:32.38 | Fisker | anyone digs vlans? |
| 10:32.38 | Wobin | haste: er. http://www.reddit.com/r/diablo3/comments/u1r71/what_it_feels_like_fighting_a_group_of_sand_wasps/ |
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| 10:34.22 | Stanzilla | Fisker |
| 10:34.32 | Fisker | does google chrome sync work for you? |
| 10:36.37 | Stanzilla | dunno |
| 10:36.53 | Stanzilla | I'm logged in fine |
| 10:38.04 | Fisker | weird |
| 10:38.15 | Fisker | mine gives me an error |
| 10:38.26 | Fisker | and when i try to sign-in it just hangs at "Configuring" |
| 10:38.33 | Fisker | then one time i got it working |
| 10:38.37 | Fisker | and it said i was logged in |
| 10:38.45 | Fisker | then 2 seconds went by and it gave me the error |
| 10:38.55 | Fisker | and it alternated between those 2 every 2 seconds or so |
| 10:41.49 | haste | Wobin: haha, yes! :D |
| 10:42.16 | haste | managed to pull three yellow mobs yesterday |
| 10:42.24 | haste | among those was sand wasps with shield and arcane |
| 10:43.47 | Wobin | oh god |
| 10:44.19 | Wobin | arcane affix makes me want to wet my pants when I see it, as a melee |
| 10:57.14 | karl_w_w | so i went afk |
| 10:57.23 | karl_w_w | and come back and it says ive been dced |
| 10:57.31 | karl_w_w | but the chat is still scrolling |
| 10:57.40 | karl_w_w | with ppl logging in etc |
| 11:24.13 | haste | How I feel manually configuring XP embedded: http://i.imgur.com/tYYAe.jpg |
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| 11:47.38 | karl_w_w | do side dungeons always have a resplendant chest in them? |
| 11:52.10 | randomDude | karl_w_w: http://imgur.com/ObDjB |
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| 12:05.38 | Fisker | man haste |
| 12:05.57 | Fisker | that's how i rescued my linux server from a bad grub setup after an upgrade to 12.04 |
| 12:08.49 | Fisker | get it haste + |
| 12:08.50 | Fisker | ? |
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| 12:18.33 | Kalroth | should have installed windows 8 |
| 12:20.36 | mitch0 | or freebsd9 |
| 12:22.08 | wereHamster | gnu hurd |
| 12:22.10 | Fisker | or ubuntu 10 |
| 12:22.18 | wereHamster | plan9 |
| 12:27.10 | Kalroth | or freedos |
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| 12:34.33 | Stanzilla | plan9 > * |
| 12:39.33 | rtharper_ | haste: Dunno if you were around last night, we got Humbedooh to join our nordic languages chat, if you want to come along =p |
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| 12:40.25 | Humbedooh | rtharper_, forget it - they'll just dub everything we say to norwegian :\ |
| 12:40.30 | Humbedooh | :D |
| 12:45.38 | randomDude | Fisker: umad? |
| 12:54.44 | Fisker | iglad randomDude |
| 12:57.32 | Lopeppeppy | you weird. |
| 12:57.35 | rtharper_ | haha |
| 12:57.39 | rtharper_ | Fisker: you could come too =p |
| 12:57.49 | Fisker | i always come |
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| 12:59.47 | Lopeppeppy | TMveryI |
| 13:00.10 | karl_w_w | i keep trying to exit d3 by typing /quit |
| 13:01.39 | haste | rtharper_: what is this nordic you speak off? |
| 13:02.29 | rtharper_ | lol North Germanic languages =p |
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| 13:02.50 | rtharper_ | Icelandic, Faroese, Norwegians (all of them), Swedish, Danish |
| 13:02.50 | haste | I kiiiid :D |
| 13:02.52 | rtharper_ | No Finnish |
| 13:02.53 | rtharper_ | =p |
| 13:03.11 | rtharper_ | but yeah, it's a skype chat room, many people use it to talk abut dialects or just get used to chatting with people in other nordic langauges |
| 13:03.16 | rtharper_ | ther are occasionally voice chats |
| 13:04.08 | haste | I barely use skype tho' :( |
| 13:04.18 | Fisker | skype is shit |
| 13:04.21 | Fisker | i never come on skype |
| 13:04.28 | haste | does it even have push to talk now? |
| 13:04.57 | Fisker | i think it does |
| 13:05.51 | rtharper_ | np =) |
| 13:06.39 | Fisker | want to make out haste ? |
| 13:06.42 | haste | I'm so responsible! Two of our servers went down |
| 13:06.47 | haste | and now I'm leaving for a hair cut~ |
| 13:07.08 | haste | *swoosh* |
| 13:07.15 | Dagmar | Good hair sometimes requires sacrifice. |
| 13:07.57 | Dagmar | ....and I don't recall anyone ever saying it has to be *your own* sacrifice |
| 13:08.35 | Lopeppeppy | the goatse meme is a form of mass-sacrifice. *grin* |
| 13:09.04 | Dagmar | Today's going to be fun. |
| 13:09.30 | Dagmar | I'm going to try to get a root canal without the doc deciding I'm doing it for pain killers |
| 13:09.45 | Dagmar | I must avoid looking *too* eager |
| 13:09.56 | Dagmar | I am ready for this f**king tooth to _go_ |
| 13:10.49 | Fisker | ugoatse Lopeppeppy ? |
| 13:11.19 | Lopeppeppy | No goats for me, Fisker, they smell horrible. I'd be giving them a bath every other day. |
| 13:12.22 | Dagmar | They're cute when they're little but their eyes are still freaky. |
| 13:12.46 | Fisker | not goats Lopeppeppy |
| 13:12.47 | Fisker | goatse |
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| 13:28.30 | foxlit | heh, there's a damage-over-time debuff that you get for fighting an elite mob for too long. |
| 13:29.34 | Lopeppeppy | Is it "stop playing with your food" ? |
| 13:36.24 | rtharper_ | haste: we have someone who speaks every Norwegians favourite dialect btw =p |
| 13:36.28 | rtharper_ | Østfold =p |
| 13:41.35 | Fisker | 1+1 = 2 |
| 13:41.45 | Fisker | old foxlit |
| 13:44.44 | foxlit | since when, Fisker? |
| 13:44.51 | Fisker | since ever |
| 13:45.21 | foxlit | Interesting, never actually noticed that before |
| 13:45.29 | foxlit | Fiskers in this group must really suck, then :( |
| 13:46.15 | Fisker | it's bashioks way of saying "get better gear n00bs" |
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| 14:06.04 | pompy | http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/181265_10151129872467598_802617597_13308443_926081398_n.jpg :x |
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| 14:21.24 | rtharper_ | not gonna lie, I don't get it |
| 14:21.26 | rtharper_ | oh |
| 14:21.27 | rtharper_ | peas + corn |
| 14:21.40 | rtharper_ | was really looking for a sexual innuendo |
| 14:21.45 | Lopeppeppy | I can tell tomorrow is a day that a lot of people have off, just by their help request levels. It's got a Friday feel. |
| 14:21.52 | rtharper_ | haha |
| 14:26.11 | alestane | I'm sure Unkle will be sharing your pain soon enough. |
| 14:30.06 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. Our jobs are similar enough in nature, sadly, that we get the same poison on the same schedules. |
| 14:30.40 | Lopeppeppy | Which is either a great argument for us hooking up, or a perfect reason to never speak to him again! :) |
| 14:31.00 | alestane | ~8ball |
| 14:31.00 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Ask again later |
| 14:31.35 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, she's with me - when in doubt, equivocate. |
| 14:49.51 | Maldivia | rtharper: hehe, I see you're still "recruiting" :P |
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| 14:55.27 | alestane | ァッー噂すれば，影が出るね。 |
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| 14:58.15 | pompy | you'll leave the shadow if the rumor is true? |
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| 15:08.35 | alestane | Nice try? |
| 15:08.55 | pompy | i know can never trust google translate |
| 15:08.58 | pompy | "If the rumor ~A~tsu, I leave the shadow." |
| 15:09.09 | alestane | Wow. |
| 15:09.43 | alestane | The first bit is just a little noise, like "Ah! or "Oh" in english. |
| 15:10.01 | pompy | that was japanese translation |
| 15:10.03 | pompy | is that chinese? |
| 15:10.25 | pompy | the chinese translation is "The the the ァ ッ ー Zun to desu れ ば, video ga ru ne" |
| 15:10.26 | alestane | No, it's Japanese. And Google Translate doesn't appear to like it. |
| 15:10.27 | pompy | lol |
| 15:10.57 | alestane | It means "when one gossips, a shadow falls." |
| 15:11.01 | haste | rtharper_: https://twitter.com/oslopolitiops/status/205666832965836800 this is what the police in norway does |
| 15:11.09 | alestane | Roughly, "Speak of the devil." |
| 15:11.37 | rtharper_ | lolz |
| 15:12.32 | Ackis | http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5270830654?page=1 I needs an answer pl0x :D |
| 15:13.48 | Ackis | uh oh seerah and my wife are friends on facebook |
| 15:14.47 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: afaik no |
| 15:15.04 | Arrowmaster | there are FoS for each one and i dont have any of them |
| 15:15.27 | Ackis | ok thanks :) was worried I might have missed something |
| 15:15.39 | Arrowmaster | if you did, then so did i |
| 15:18.39 | pompy | lols Dead Island getting a GOTY edition |
| 15:18.43 | pompy | so doesnt deserve it! |
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| 15:22.35 | Unkle | Once again, that Unkle guy is a dick. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5149621285#6 |
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| 15:25.29 | Ackis | what a jerk |
| 15:25.41 | Ackis | pompy: cool I'm gonna buy that and then rage at you aboot it |
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| 15:26.23 | Unkle | Ackis: Seerah is friends with your wife? On Facebook? Oh man… you're days of douchebaggery are limited now, I tell you what. |
| 15:26.41 | pompy | Unkle: Dragon is berthing at the ISS at 2am EDT May 25 aka 14.5 hours from now |
| 15:26.45 | pompy | Ackis: no you wont |
| 15:26.50 | Ackis | Unkle: oh no, they've just started muhahahah |
| 15:28.10 | Unkle | pompy: I know, i followed all the tweets from NASA this morning - and I live nextdoor the JSC so everyone here is talking about it. I even concluded last nights systems check for server with "Just like the Dragon module, all systems are GREEN!" |
| 15:28.48 | pompy | lol |
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| 15:36.34 | alestane | So, I'm trying to make a creature calculate the vertical velocity to jump with based on its own position, the target position, and its horizontal velocity. |
| 15:36.44 | alestane | I smell quadratic formula. |
| 15:37.01 | foxlit | whee, parabola? |
| 15:37.50 | Cide | all you need is to calculate the air time |
| 15:37.56 | karl_w_w | throws alestane off a bridge and calculates his velocity |
| 15:38.09 | Cide | and you will have jump distance = air time * horizontal velocity |
| 15:38.19 | foxlit | Cide: that seems like you're assuming that you're not actually changing your elevation |
| 15:38.27 | Cide | sure. |
| 15:38.34 | Cide | well technically no |
| 15:39.00 | Cide | if it's not on a flat landscape air time is a function of elevation difference |
| 15:39.00 | foxlit | bonus: some jumps are impossible. |
| 15:39.37 | Cide | but if you're doing it on a flat landscape I think simply calculating air time is the easiest way to do it |
| 15:39.48 | Cide | probably doesn't cover all the cases otherwise |
| 15:39.50 | alestane | I'm not, though. |
| 15:40.02 | alestane | THese creatures have to be able to jump up to platforms. |
| 15:40.05 | karl_w_w | alestane it's really simple |
| 15:40.20 | alestane | And right now, they're frequently bouncing off the ends of the platforms. |
| 15:40.34 | alestane | So I think I'm effectively selecting the wrong root. |
| 15:41.03 | Cide | do they have a fixed horizontal velocity? |
| 15:41.09 | alestane | Yes. |
| 15:41.17 | foxlit | do laws of physics work? |
| 15:41.23 | Cide | then maybe you can't actually land on the platform |
| 15:41.27 | alestane | There is a fixed gravity, yes. |
| 15:41.32 | Cide | depending on distance and velocity |
| 15:41.41 | Cide | you would need to adjust horizontal velocity in some cases |
| 15:41.44 | alestane | Cide, I am not currently capping velocity. |
| 15:42.10 | alestane | And this only takes place at predefined points, which should avoid the worst edge cases. |
| 15:42.19 | foxlit | and another bonus, you'll probably have to deal with collisions in jump trajectories |
| 15:42.27 | foxlit | "oops I hit the ceiling" |
| 15:42.36 | bluspacecow | fan |
| 15:43.44 | foxlit | seems like you should approach the easiest case first |
| 15:44.05 | foxlit | given your horizontal velocity and distance to destination, you know how much time you have to fix your vertical position |
| 15:44.14 | alestane | Got that part. |
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| 15:45.02 | foxlit | then you want to change your y coordinate by a known amount, subject to known acceleration, in known time |
| 15:45.24 | foxlit | s = 1/2at^2 + vt being the relevant equation |
| 15:45.25 | alestane | Which I thought I was doing. |
| 15:45.36 | alestane | It's sort of working. |
| 15:46.07 | foxlit | that's quadratic, so there are two solutions |
| 15:46.40 | alestane | And I think I'm consistently choosing the nearer one. |
| 15:46.40 | foxlit | one involves picking a velocity such that you're still travelling upwards when you hit that elevation difference; another involves you travelling downards. |
| 15:47.14 | foxlit | [er, I'm wrong -- it's quadratic in time, but that's not what we're solving for] |
| 15:48.10 | foxlit | so reshuffle and you get v = s/t - 1/2at |
| 15:49.51 | alestane | What I have right now is, divide d-H by v-H to obtain t. |
| 15:50.30 | foxlit | (dst_x-src_x)/spd_x |
| 15:50.50 | alestane | Then, multiply t * a and add to d-V, then divide quantity by time. |
| 15:52.16 | Arrowmaster | http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=62624076&f=68&o=0 |
| 15:52.18 | Arrowmaster | ........ |
| 15:53.25 | foxlit | alestane: define d, V, H? |
| 15:53.40 | AcidWeb | Arrowmaster: lol |
| 15:53.58 | alestane | distance sub vertical, distance sub horizontal, etc. |
| 15:54.19 | alestane | d-H: bad notation for horizontal distance. |
| 15:54.42 | Ackis | how many old gods have we killed? c'thun, yor-saj and who else? |
| 15:55.36 | nevcairiel | the name is yogg-saron |
| 15:55.41 | foxlit | lua> function calc_vy(sx, dx, sy, dy, vx, acc) local t = (dx-sx)/vx return (dy-sy)/t - acc*t/2; end print(calc_vy(0, 0, 5, 5, 1, -1)) |
| 15:55.54 | alestane | lua_bot's not here. |
| 15:55.58 | foxlit | nan. |
| 15:56.27 | foxlit | print(calc_vy(0, 5, 0, 5, 1, -1)) >> 3.5 |
| 15:56.34 | Ackis | nevcairiel: I have trouble remembering my own name/age :P I think I was pretty close enuff! :P |
| 15:56.44 | foxlit | does that seem reasonable? |
| 16:00.54 | foxlit | http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=parametric+plot+%281+*+t%2C+3.5*t+-+1%2F2+*+t%5E2%29+for+t%3D0..5 |
| 16:04.40 | alestane | There's only one solution to the problem from this end, right? |
| 16:05.28 | karl_w_w | only those 2 Ackis |
| 16:05.57 | Ackis | ty karl_w_w |
| 16:06.02 | Ackis | plus one was dead before right? |
| 16:06.02 | karl_w_w | other than that there's the old god that corrupted deathwing who's name i dont remember |
| 16:06.10 | foxlit | alestane: yes. |
| 16:06.43 | Ackis | pompy: dead island is the deal of the week on steam |
| 16:07.04 | alestane | So, if I want to actually control the arc at all, I'm going to need to vary the horizontal velocity. |
| 16:07.16 | foxlit | yes. |
| 16:07.46 | alestane | Given constant acceleration and two known points, there should be two possible vectors? |
| 16:07.46 | karl_w_w | what you could do is vary gravity |
| 16:08.06 | alestane | The second root of one parabola, and the first root of another. |
| 16:08.51 | foxlit | I'm not sure whether it works like that. There might not have to be just two velocity solutions |
| 16:09.27 | bluspacecow | #define bluspacecow_sleep = "Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"; |
| 16:09.29 | bluspacecow | \o |
| 16:09.53 | karl_w_w | there's 1 possible vectors and 2 possible landing points |
| 16:09.57 | Fisker | hey blu |
| 16:09.59 | Fisker | damnit |
| 16:10.12 | karl_w_w | but 1 landing point is on the way up, which is useless for actually landing on anything |
| 16:12.29 | pompy | http://images.g4tv.com/ImageDb3/299107_S/one-huge-payload.jpg ha |
| 16:12.42 | karl_w_w | haha |
| 16:12.47 | karl_w_w | old pompy |
| 16:13.00 | alestane | I'm essentially trying to calculate b and c from known a, one known root (we don't know which one) and a point SOMEWHERE on the curve. |
| 16:13.36 | alestane | This seems like it should be enough information. |
| 16:13.41 | haste | pompy: apparently, it's cheaper for them to move around like that |
| 16:14.17 | foxlit | "karl_w_w: there's 1 possible vectors and 2 possible landing points" << under what conditions? What exactly are you keeping constant? |
| 16:14.30 | karl_w_w | everything? |
| 16:14.38 | Arrowmaster | holy fuck crit mass and living lightning is awesome |
| 16:14.44 | foxlit | if you fix horizontal velocity |
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| 16:14.51 | foxlit | there's ever only one solution. |
| 16:15.06 | karl_w_w | you go up and come back down again |
| 16:15.09 | foxlit | because you're only ever at matching x coordinates once. |
| 16:15.22 | karl_w_w | obviously |
| 16:15.45 | karl_w_w | but when the y target is above you, you're going to be at y twice |
| 16:15.47 | pompy | http://www.facebook.com/ApSci/posts/317708551641752 skill |
| 16:16.07 | foxlit | which is kind of irrelevant, since you want to hit a point, not a y-level. |
| 16:16.38 | karl_w_w | i thought the issue was making sure you can reach the platform above you without bouncing off the end |
| 16:16.45 | foxlit | it may be that the single solution to reaching the desired destination involves you still travelling up when you're at that point. But there is *only one* way to pass through that point at all. |
| 16:17.10 | karl_w_w | if you're travelling up you aren't going to reach the point |
| 16:17.16 | karl_w_w | you have to be travelling down |
| 16:17.30 | Fisker | hey foxlit |
| 16:17.31 | foxlit | you're adding assumptions there. |
| 16:17.33 | Fisker | not so hey karl_w_w |
| 16:17.37 | foxlit | point masses all the way :P |
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| 16:17.50 | pompy | jnwhiteh: lua_bot! |
| 16:17.55 | karl_w_w | I'm not assuming anything |
| 16:18.15 | karl_w_w | the problem included "bouncing off the end is an issue" |
| 16:18.23 | karl_w_w | so the ground is solid |
| 16:18.28 | karl_w_w | you can't pass through it |
| 16:19.21 | foxlit | the end of what, exactly? Does that something have a height? |
| 16:19.25 | foxlit | Different models, really :) |
| 16:19.34 | karl_w_w | the end of the platform |
| 16:19.47 | foxlit | what's a platform? :) |
| 16:19.48 | karl_w_w | <alestane> And right now, they're frequently bouncing off the ends of the platforms. |
| 16:19.51 | foxlit | Is a platform a line? |
| 16:19.53 | alestane | Suppose that linear velocity is fixed instead of horizontal velocity. |
| 16:19.58 | alestane | Is the problem still solvable? |
| 16:20.02 | karl_w_w | didn't u read it all? |
| 16:20.15 | alestane | Accepting that some heights become unreachable at that point. |
| 16:20.32 | foxlit | karl_w_w: I'm trying to point out that there multiple ways of modelling the scenario to you. However, it seems that that is pointless. |
| 16:20.34 | karl_w_w | linear velocity? |
| 16:20.58 | karl_w_w | I'm not modelling anything :P |
| 16:21.05 | alestane | Magnitude of the combined velocity vector. |
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| 16:22.02 | karl_w_w | the only way to land on the platform while travelling upwards is if the platform can be travelled through (we already know it can't) and if the platform magically grabs you on the way up |
| 16:22.37 | pompy | lua> function calc_vy(sx, dx, sy, dy, vx, acc) local t = (dx-sx)/vx return (dy-sy)/t - acc*t/2; end print(calc_vy(0, 0, 5, 5, 1, -1)) |
| 16:22.37 | lua_bot | pompy: -nan |
| 16:22.40 | karl_w_w | it's not going to be fixed alestane, gravity is acting on vertical velocity :P |
| 16:23.16 | foxlit | alestane: that will still leave you with only one "correct" solution for horizontal velocity |
| 16:23.26 | alestane | I have an initial velocity vector right now, though (normally it would be a force vector, but mass is known and fixed). |
| 16:23.40 | foxlit | as karl_w_w points out, there are two ways you can hit the desired height: on the way up (presumably useless) and on the way down (once). |
| 16:24.38 | foxlit | so if you fix the initial vertical velocity you're able to put into a jump, there's at most one horizontal speed that'll get you to pass through the desired point on the way down. |
| 16:25.51 | alestane | So, let's say I have a constant v such that v = sqrt(v_x^2 + v_y^2). |
| 16:26.31 | alestane | And I want to select v_x and v_y, subject to that constraint, to determine an arc that travels up and follows to the desired point. |
| 16:26.34 | karl_w_w | i don't fully understand the problem i think, why not just have the initial velocity be enough so that at the point where you have reached 0 vertical velocity you have reached the desired height |
| 16:26.39 | alestane | A solution will not exist in all cases. |
| 16:27.03 | foxlit | I think that with that quadratic constraint, a solution will not exist in many cases |
| 16:27.08 | foxlit | you probably want at least <= |
| 16:27.38 | alestane | Actually, it would be >=, I think. |
| 16:27.50 | alestane | It indicates a maximum scalar velocity. |
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| 16:32.17 | Silvanas | good evening |
| 16:33.18 | karl_w_w | what are you trying to vary, alestane? |
| 16:33.26 | Silvanas | it seems that editboxes dont sepport hyperlinks :/ |
| 16:33.35 | alestane | Well, in that case, I'm choosing the angle. |
| 16:34.24 | karl_w_w | how high do u need to get and what is the gravity constant? |
| 16:35.04 | alestane | Well, as you point out, with a single gravity constant g, there should be only two vectors that get you there, and only one which descending. |
| 16:36.20 | alestane | So how can I calculate the vector that reaches destination on the descending arc, once I allow v_x to vary? |
| 16:37.01 | karl_w_w | v_x is irrelevant |
| 16:37.21 | Silvanas | pwew hyperlinks do work in editboxes but wowpedia doesnt know yet ^.^ |
| 16:37.21 | karl_w_w | it only determines where you start the jump |
| 16:38.09 | karl_w_w | all you need to do is make sure the initial v_y is enough to make the required height |
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| 16:44.09 | Arrowmaster | i need another skill and passive for my wizard build http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#bXY.OS!Vg!caY.ZY |
| 16:44.35 | Lopeppeppy | Everyone should be good at flipping omelettes. |
| 16:45.24 | karl_w_w | 0 - v_y² = 2 * g * height is the equation, so if the platforms are at most 5 meters above you and gravity is -10 m/s², you probably want to clear the platform a bit so call it 5.2 |
| 16:45.49 | karl_w_w | -v_y² = 2 * -10 * 5.2 |
| 16:45.52 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: ideas? http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#bXY.OS!Vg!caY.ZY |
| 16:46.15 | karl_w_w | v_y² = 104 |
| 16:46.31 | karl_w_w | v_y = 10.2 |
| 16:46.42 | karl_w_w | is the initial vertical velocity u would need |
| 16:47.18 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: you should try the new wizard op spec |
| 16:47.40 | karl_w_w | what's that Stanzilla? |
| 16:47.52 | Stanzilla | frost nova cd reduction |
| 16:48.03 | Stanzilla | => perma stun on everything |
| 16:48.19 | Arrowmaster | Stanzilla: DID YOU LOOK AT WHAT I LINKED |
| 16:48.24 | karl_w_w | some things break out of frost nova early |
| 16:48.56 | Arrowmaster | maybe ill go with glass cannon and familiar |
| 16:49.16 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: yes |
| 16:49.21 | karl_w_w | that's what im using :P |
| 16:49.22 | Arrowmaster | 3 buffs and 3 spells to constantly spam |
| 16:49.30 | foxlit | Arrowmaster: get Force Armor. |
| 16:49.36 | karl_w_w | ew |
| 16:49.36 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: it got nerfed |
| 16:49.43 | foxlit | doesn't matter, still good. |
| 16:49.48 | Stanzilla | but I thought you had the wrong glyph for frost nova, meh :D |
| 16:49.50 | Arrowmaster | but i need the crit |
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| 16:49.57 | foxlit | in fact, can't live without it. Quite literary. |
| 16:50.17 | karl_w_w | u live by freezing everything :P |
| 16:50.20 | Arrowmaster | my gear has 0%+crit |
| 16:51.08 | Arrowmaster | so the crit rune in energy armor doubles my crit |
| 16:53.00 | Fisker | i liked you Arrowmaster |
| 16:53.50 | foxlit | I think you might be badly underestimating incoming damage. If one little mob reaches you, it's like 80% of your HP gone. |
| 16:54.07 | foxlit | Combine that with packs of charging/jumping mobs, and you're basically dead. |
| 16:55.28 | karl_w_w | and a 65% increase in armor is going to make a huge difference |
| 16:55.29 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: how exactly does the freeze spec look? the one rune for frost nova isnt enough :p |
| 16:56.18 | nevcairiel | even if combined with the passive to reduce cooldowns |
| 16:56.28 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: diamond skin |
| 16:56.36 | Arrowmaster | its up all the time |
| 16:57.08 | foxlit | diamond skin is less than my healthbar at the moment |
| 16:57.32 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: i think it might actually be what Arrowmaster uses |
| 16:58.07 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: use living lightning |
| 16:58.19 | Arrowmaster | it does lots of small damage so lots more chances to crit |
| 16:58.30 | Arrowmaster | also magic weapon venom |
| 16:58.48 | Arrowmaster | people claim it helps but im not sure |
| 16:59.06 | nevcairiel | if you have no crit on gear, what good is hoping for crits ? :d |
| 16:59.56 | nevcairiel | even with the 5% bonus from energy armor, seems kinda wishful thinking :) |
| 17:00.24 | Arrowmaster | if i could stream you what im doing right now you would understand |
| 17:00.39 | Arrowmaster | the 10% crit chance is enough |
| 17:00.45 | Arrowmaster | if i had more it would be even better |
| 17:01.00 | Arrowmaster | if im swarmed it goes to 25% when i frost nova |
| 17:01.25 | Arrowmaster | also my living lightning stuns a lot |
| 17:03.25 | nevcairiel | i'm just 52 or so, didnt have a chance to test living lightning yet |
| 17:03.37 | Arrowmaster | ah ok |
| 17:03.47 | nevcairiel | all other shock pulse things suck |
| 17:03.56 | nevcairiel | i still use arcane missle or how its called |
| 17:03.59 | nevcairiel | magic missle |
| 17:04.01 | Kraps | http://d3db.com/blue/thread/5149151633/us |
| 17:04.11 | Arrowmaster | piercing orb isnt bad |
| 17:04.21 | Kraps | bashiok needs a hug |
| 17:04.30 | Arrowmaster | but i never used it as a primary dps attack |
| 17:04.37 | Arrowmaster | it was just there for when i needed it |
| 17:04.40 | nevcairiel | i really dont use the signature spell much |
| 17:04.49 | nevcairiel | since i run in a group, i can afford to disintegrate |
| 17:05.21 | nevcairiel | sadly its arcane and doesnt give the lightning stun :P |
| 17:08.16 | Arrowmaster | things that run away are my enemy now |
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| 17:10.30 | Lopeppeppy | alestane: http://notalwaysright.com/thank-you-for-shopping-at-wrongway-mart/19497 |
| 17:12.02 | Arrowmaster | ok timewarp or stretch time for slow time rune? |
| 17:12.20 | nevcairiel | i never really saw the big use of slow time, it seems rather weak |
| 17:12.27 | Lopeppeppy | Timewarp, clearly. *giggle* |
| 17:12.46 | alestane | Just a jump to the left. |
| 17:12.53 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: im mainly just wanting to use it for the buff from one of those two runes |
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| 17:13.46 | nevcairiel | even then, i move way too much for a fixed-location effect to be that good |
| 17:13.50 | nevcairiel | but maybe thats just me |
| 17:14.29 | Arrowmaster | yeah previously i kited everything |
| 17:14.52 | Arrowmaster | it would have been useless to me except as an additional kitting tool from the slow efect |
| 17:16.59 | rtharper | Maldivia: yes, esp Danes =p |
| 17:17.12 | rtharper | haste: lolz, I assume that's ain a small town? |
| 17:20.34 | alestane | Those people are rather painfully vague on their destination, Peppy. |
| 17:21.38 | haste | rtharper: the tweet? |
| 17:21.44 | rtharper | haste: yeah |
| 17:21.55 | haste | rtharper: oslo is our capital! |
| 17:22.07 | rtharper | oh, I didn't see that it was the oslo police |
| 17:22.10 | mikma | lolpital |
| 17:22.20 | rtharper | ah yes |
| 17:22.27 | rtharper | @olsopolitiops |
| 17:22.28 | rtharper | haha |
| 17:22.35 | rtharper | also operasjon lolz |
| 17:22.38 | mikma | rtharper: oh OH OH! i just remembered. there will be CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP busses going from tampere-helsinki-tampere |
| 17:22.44 | rtharper | orly? |
| 17:22.47 | rtharper | whyfore? |
| 17:22.48 | mikma | rtharper: trips are prices something like 3 euros |
| 17:22.57 | mikma | cause they can! |
| 17:23.06 | rtharper | if there is a Euromuch longer |
| 17:24.56 | karl_w_w | http://notalwaysright.com/and-a-pound-of-pronunciation-please/20128 <- welcome to the USA, where beef is a vegetable |
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| 17:26.51 | mikma | rtharper: in finnish, but second frame is "leaves" and third is "arrives" ... http://www.onnibus.fi/verkkokauppa/#/?from=Tampere&to=Helsinki&d1=04.06.2012&d2=04.06.2012&a1=1 |
| 17:26.52 | mikma | rtharper: as you can see, 5.9e from tampere to helsinki if you use the bus at evening |
| 17:26.54 | rtharper | nice |
| 17:27.04 | Lopeppeppy | Vegetables, they are what food eats. |
| 17:27.30 | foxlit | fire, fire everywhere |
| 17:27.39 | Lopeppeppy | And not a drop to drink? |
| 17:28.14 | alestane | foxlit, I think I may have arrived at a solution. |
| 17:28.38 | Maldivia | rtharper: what's so special about Danes ? :) |
| 17:28.52 | foxlit | alestane: mm? |
| 17:28.52 | rtharper | Maldivia: we just have a load of Swedes and Norwegians |
| 17:28.56 | rtharper | two Faroe Islanders |
| 17:29.01 | rtharper | two of us speak Icelandic as a secondlanuage |
| 17:29.07 | rtharper | we have no one who speaks Danish =p |
| 17:29.10 | rtharper | until Humbedooh! |
| 17:29.21 | Maldivia | heh |
| 17:29.23 | Humbedooh | ! |
| 17:29.45 | Maldivia | well, I speak Fynsk :P |
| 17:30.05 | Humbedooh | at least it's written the same way as regular Danish :P |
| 17:30.15 | Humbedooh | except for cats and dogs and such ;) |
| 17:30.33 | alestane | NVM, it may not work. |
| 17:30.48 | Maldivia | Humbedooh: you must be thinking of goat :P |
| 17:30.55 | foxlit | if all else fails, you could binary search |
| 17:31.35 | foxlit | you know how to find v_y from a fixed v_x; search for a v_x for which v_y satisfies your velocity magnitude constraint. |
| 17:31.59 | karl_w_w | i already gave the solution i dont see the problem :P |
| 17:34.51 | foxlit | Arrowmaster: also, why Venom rather than Force Weapon? |
| 17:35.02 | foxlit | Seems like 15% immediately is better than 15% over 3 sec |
| 17:35.14 | Arrowmaster | people are claiming it can crit but im not so sure about that |
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| 17:35.43 | Arrowmaster | oddly i found out venom weapon does effect venom hydra |
| 17:36.09 | Arrowmaster | normally on reflect damage mobs i dont take any damage at all from venom hydra damage, this time i was |
| 17:36.27 | foxlit | I always take Hydra damage when its reflected. |
| 17:36.48 | foxlit | what's worse is that it can actually kill me unless the Templar is around. |
| 17:36.56 | Arrowmaster | i never have before with venom hydra |
| 17:37.33 | karl_w_w | the solution to these problems and more? don't use any hydras :P |
| 17:38.12 | foxlit | the solution to these problems? Reroll monk! :P |
| 17:38.31 | nilyaK | yea hydras always did a number on my merc, I found a nice um'd guardian angel and a vgaze really helped a lot, and was about as strong as proc'd treachery + vgaze defensively. |
| 17:38.32 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: also force weapon is only a +15%, venom hydra is +10% plus a 15% dot |
| 17:39.23 | nilyaK | purposely tries to turn D3 discussions into D2 discussions. |
| 17:39.25 | Arrowmaster | a lot of people seem to think force weapon is +25% |
| 17:39.43 | foxlit | Have pants that are an improvement on every stat but Magic Find. :( |
| 17:39.58 | foxlit | tragedy! |
| 17:40.01 | Arrowmaster | i have 0% magic find |
| 17:40.32 | foxlit | 102%, but that's with a 5-stack of Valor. |
| 17:40.55 | Arrowmaster | i dont know what valor is |
| 17:41.05 | pompy | ugh AH keeps saying no results found |
| 17:41.30 | foxlit | act 4 hell is something you farm to relax :P |
| 17:41.30 | Maldivia | what are you searching for? |
| 17:41.49 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: im just trying to get there, act3 hell right now |
| 17:41.57 | pompy | anything Maldivia |
| 17:42.24 | karl_w_w | are gear drops rigged to not give you anything useful ever? |
| 17:42.31 | pompy | lol |
| 17:42.35 | Maldivia | karl_w_w: yes |
| 17:42.51 | nevcairiel | if you play in a group, you usually find stuff for the other people :P |
| 17:42.54 | AcidWeb | karl_w_w: yes |
| 17:43.03 | karl_w_w | i swear everything i get is either a wd or barb specific item |
| 17:43.15 | karl_w_w | barb belts mostly |
| 17:43.25 | AcidWeb | karl_w_w: Diablo is just minion of RNG |
| 17:43.25 | karl_w_w | or a quiver |
| 17:43.48 | karl_w_w | no |
| 17:43.52 | Maldivia | in normal, quivers and barb belts are probably the most common item type I've seen drop |
| 17:44.03 | karl_w_w | i have got 1 drop that is useful in the last 9 levels |
| 17:44.15 | karl_w_w | and even that was marginal |
| 17:44.40 | karl_w_w | that's not rng that's conspiracy |
| 17:45.58 | Arrowmaster | uploading an image of the weapon i found last night that im using |
| 17:46.26 | karl_w_w | im level 30 and my shoulders are required level 10 |
| 17:46.35 | karl_w_w | half my gear is level 10-15 |
| 17:46.35 | nevcairiel | i found a pretty good weapon for my level two days ago |
| 17:47.00 | nevcairiel | lvl 52 staff with 270 dps or something |
| 17:47.14 | Arrowmaster | nice |
| 17:47.27 | Arrowmaster | oh staff |
| 17:47.28 | Arrowmaster | junk |
| 17:47.42 | karl_w_w | wheras im constantly finding gear with stacks of dex and str on it |
| 17:47.45 | nevcairiel | i stopped using wands after i never found a good one |
| 17:48.32 | Arrowmaster | at 52 i bought a 261dps onehand then i found a 280dps onehand with a socket with level req 54 |
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| 17:48.48 | Arrowmaster | a 399dps staff for level 56 |
| 17:49.01 | Arrowmaster | and i found this lastnight http://imgur.com/qOqgc |
| 17:49.11 | nevcairiel | its insane how fast it scales upwards from 50 to 60 |
| 17:51.20 | Arrowmaster | i cant find a decent replacement helm that has a socket though |
| 17:51.29 | Arrowmaster | i dont want to give up my ruby yet |
| 17:51.50 | Arrowmaster | although this close to level 59 it probably doesnt matter |
| 17:53.57 | Arrowmaster | and even though i said 'this close to level 59' i just realized im still HALF A MILLION XP AWAY |
| 18:06.28 | Maldivia | I stopped using wands in nm, and went for slow 2handers instead |
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| 18:09.19 | karl_w_w | oh look another rare quiver -_- |
| 18:11.07 | cogwheel | so apparently blizzard is too embarrassed to leave the popular topics list up on the d3 site <.< |
| 18:12.01 | cogwheel | it was showing wow popular topics for the last few days and now it's just gone ... |
| 18:15.53 | cogwheel | nm... battle.net is just being ridiculously slow |
| 18:16.04 | cogwheel | or they only show up after logging in |
| 18:18.07 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 18:18.27 | Fisker | why would they be embarassed? |
| 18:18.29 | cogwheel | aaand d3 site down |
| 18:19.28 | Fisker | oh neat |
| 18:19.35 | Fisker | someone made an auction house thingy for D3 |
| 18:21.25 | Maldivia | auction house thingy? |
| 18:21.46 | Fisker | i.e. mines the game for auction house data |
| 18:21.50 | Fisker | posts it on a website |
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| 18:35.45 | Maldivia | and diablo has had it's first(?) casualty |
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| 18:35.56 | Lopeppeppy | Who did we kill? Mufasa? |
| 18:36.49 | Maldivia | just read a headline saying that a man died of a heart attack after playing diablo for 72hours traight |
| 18:38.14 | Lopeppeppy | Let this be your one wake up call then, geeks. Do NOT spend the entire holiday weekend playing D3. Get out of your chair, go to a barbeque, splash in a pool, get some frellin' exercise! |
| 18:43.40 | rtharper | how the fuck do people stay up thatlong |
| 18:44.23 | Arrowmaster | i used to do that when i was younger, i only slept like twice a week |
| 18:44.25 | Lopeppeppy | I have no idea, unless you're a Navy SEAL in training or something. |
| 18:44.43 | Maldivia | Lopeppeppy: what better way to honor the descent of the holy spirit, than to slaughter the demons that are attacking heaven? |
| 18:44.44 | nevcairiel | dont the koreans or something die regularly from too much playing |
| 18:44.54 | nevcairiel | WoW even had those playtime limitations put in for china |
| 18:45.03 | karl_w_w | <rtharper> how the fuck do people stay up thatlong <- they don't, it kills them |
| 18:45.10 | rtharper | lol |
| 18:45.22 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, that's totally the excuse to play on Saturday night, Maldivia, and keep the teens from partying too much. But for 3 days straight? To play a game? Stupid. |
| 18:45.52 | Fisker | says you Lopeppeppy |
| 18:46.07 | karl_w_w | no Fisker |
| 18:46.12 | Fisker | hey karl_w_w |
| 18:46.17 | Fisker | want a cease and desist letter? |
| 18:46.21 | Maldivia | rtharper: so no eurovision for you tonight, eitheR? |
| 18:46.29 | rtharper | nope |
| 18:46.33 | rtharper | saturday =)))) |
| 18:46.43 | Fisker | hey rtharper |
| 18:46.52 | rtharper | hey Fisker |
| 18:47.01 | Fisker | why do i call you a jerk? |
| 18:47.13 | rtharper | love? |
| 18:47.24 | Maldivia | rtharper: well, tonight kind of decides who wins on Saturday |
| 18:47.39 | rtharper | Maldivia: I mean, it decides who appears on saturday =) |
| 18:47.41 | Maldivia | rtharper: as in, if Sweden fucks up, and doesn't get into the finals |
| 18:47.45 | rtharper | I know |
| 18:47.47 | rtharper | I will be saaaad |
| 18:47.55 | rtharper | but then Iceland will be cool =) |
| 18:48.15 | Maldivia | no - Denmark... (if her fever is down by then) |
| 18:48.17 | Fisker | do you love me rtharper ? |
| 18:48.31 | rtharper | I haven't seen DK yet |
| 18:48.41 | rtharper | Fisker: I don't really know you, do I? |
| 18:48.54 | Maldivia | rtharper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKWvUEY8pPA |
| 18:49.00 | Fisker | then i wouldn't call you a jerk |
| 18:49.23 | rtharper | is puzzled. |
| 18:49.46 | rtharper | nice song Maldivia |
| 18:49.46 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, I may be the only channel-person who could speak of you with love. Although Cairenn maybe could dredge some up too. |
| 18:49.54 | rtharper | lol |
| 18:50.26 | Arrowmaster | i wonder how much bandwidth d3 takes up |
| 18:50.43 | rtharper | not very much, I would think |
| 18:50.45 | Fisker | none Arrowmaster |
| 18:50.52 | Maldivia | Arrowmaster: it's blizzard, so you can probably play it over a 28k modem |
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| 18:51.07 | Fisker | or a 14k |
| 18:51.09 | Arrowmaster | dad wants me to come up to the camp ground this weekend to help out with some stuff and i might consider if it i take a laptop and tether it to my phone for internet access |
| 18:51.27 | Fisker | Then bandwidth isn't the issue |
| 18:51.34 | Fisker | silly goose |
| 18:51.36 | Arrowmaster | i dont have unlimited |
| 18:51.42 | Fisker | oh right |
| 18:51.48 | rtharper | Arrowmaster: or you could just, like, be outdoors for a weekend? =p |
| 18:51.48 | Fisker | forgot you don't live in a western country |
| 18:52.00 | rtharper | lol where does Arrowmaster live? |
| 18:52.11 | Arrowmaster | rtharper: ive been outdoors all week shoveling topsoil for him at the house |
| 18:52.30 | Arrowmaster | rtharper: ohio, us |
| 18:52.33 | rtharper | oh |
| 18:52.40 | rtharper | yeah that is a developing country |
| 18:52.45 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 18:52.57 | Fisker | jesus christ |
| 18:53.03 | Lopeppeppy | To the left of Peppy. :) Most things are, except for alestane. Who is on my right. |
| 18:53.07 | Fisker | 43 million order id's on the auction house |
| 18:53.31 | rtharper | has high hopes the US will join the developed world soon. |
| 18:53.35 | foxlit | what are you fisking, Fisker? |
| 18:54.07 | Fisker | nothing foxlit |
| 18:54.20 | Maldivia | rtharper: more likely Soon(tm) |
| 18:55.07 | nevcairiel | is that blizzard or valve soon? |
| 18:55.18 | rtharper | Duke Nukem Forever Soon |
| 18:55.27 | Maldivia | Diablo 4 soon |
| 18:55.31 | Fisker | don't think that exists rtharper |
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| 19:01.58 | Fisker | are you happy nevcairiel ? |
| 19:02.13 | nevcairiel | i dunno, should i be? |
| 19:04.00 | foxlit | wonder if hell cow level is worth it |
| 19:04.07 | Fisker | ok |
| 19:04.23 | Arrowmaster | most of my deaths right now are from standing in shit |
| 19:04.32 | Maldivia | lol - I'm getting totally creeped out looking at the hosts |
| 19:04.35 | Arrowmaster | i gota stop that |
| 19:06.02 | Fisker | ok Arrowmaster |
| 19:09.51 | alestane | Only if you're facing north, Peppy. |
| 19:12.11 | Maldivia | rtharper: ohh btw, seen/hear Öresundsvisan (from the Danish comedy show Drengene fra Angora) ? |
| 19:12.30 | Maldivia | rtharper: just with regards to Nordic languages |
| 19:16.40 | foxlit | it appears I've lost the last piece of gear with +pickup radius now |
| 19:17.03 | foxlit | The absence of that stat sucks surprisingly much |
| 19:17.24 | Unkle | Yes it does. Esepcially for the Wtich Docotr. |
| 19:17.49 | cogwheel | any character, really... I fell in love with it in patch 15 of the beta |
| 19:18.39 | cogwheel | i had a level 20-ish gathering belt on my barb well into hell because nothing else dropped with it that was good |
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| 19:23.39 | nevcairiel | I love my pickup radius item, although i dont even know which it is |
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| 19:24.47 | karl_w_w | holy crap how pathetically easy was azmodan |
| 19:26.28 | nevcairiel | all the bosses really arent hard (maybe except diablo), its the champion packs that are crazy |
| 19:27.03 | cbreak | diablo was easy, I killed him second time (normal). That boss just after the bridge was much harder |
| 19:27.08 | cbreak | I died 10 times at least |
| 19:27.45 | nevcairiel | siegebreaker? i didnt think he was that hard |
| 19:28.02 | foxlit | belial is clearly the hardest boss ever. |
| 19:28.44 | TC-Work | you have 11 slots nevcairiel, how can you not know? |
| 19:29.43 | nevcairiel | i just dont remember, and not ingame to look it up |
| 19:33.06 | foxlit | on the other hand, having no pickup radius makes it easy to control exactly which health orbs you pick up |
| 19:39.49 | cbreak | belial took me four tries or so |
| 19:40.48 | cbreak | he's easy to run from |
| 19:41.01 | cbreak | that siege breaker thing on the other hand charged and killed me all the time |
| 19:41.05 | foxlit | oh, it's not him |
| 19:41.09 | foxlit | It's his snake adds. |
| 19:41.15 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2012/05/tempting-diy-magnetic-levitating-bed-bui.php |
| 19:41.26 | cbreak | as wizzard those were no big deal |
| 19:41.41 | foxlit | it really depends on your level and the difficulty level |
| 19:41.57 | foxlit | they charge. Waves upon waves deplete health rather easily |
| 19:42.00 | Arrowmaster | kulle on hell, everytime i died was because of the falling ceiling |
| 19:42.14 | Arrowmaster | nothing else did any damage to me |
| 19:43.25 | foxlit | keep moving and the ceiling won't either |
| 19:43.26 | cbreak | well, I've only just started with nightmare. Can't comment on that |
| 19:45.37 | cbreak | mikma: http://www.supermagnete.ch/eng/project415, much better use of magnets :) |
| 19:45.51 | TC-Work | I jave also just started nightmare and it is a joke. |
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| 19:46.49 | TC-Work | s/j/h/ |
| 19:48.22 | foxlit | mortar illusionist waller vortex whyyyyyy |
| 19:49.25 | nevcairiel | doesnt seem too bad |
| 19:49.33 | nevcairiel | vortex gets you close = no more mortar |
| 19:50.52 | Cide | depends on the enemy |
| 19:50.57 | Cide | if it's something like dark berserkers |
| 19:51.02 | Cide | you really don't want to be close |
| 19:53.09 | foxlit | between everything, the real danger is being pulled into melee range of like 5 mobs |
| 19:53.19 | foxlit | that's basically death. |
| 19:53.43 | foxlit | things like being walled in while also being mortared is the second trick to watch out for |
| 19:55.09 | Jamash | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxOPo8g02ts |
| 19:56.58 | TC-Work | thats why i like monk, i can deal decent dmg and have amazing survivability. |
| 19:57.58 | Jamash | the monk is soooooooooooo good |
| 19:58.19 | Jamash | one-shot all the (normal diff) bosses |
| 19:58.30 | foxlit | aren't monks whining loudly about being inadequate on inferno? |
| 19:58.40 | Jamash | both barbs and monks |
| 19:58.53 | TC-Work | i dunno, i have not got there yet |
| 19:59.00 | Jamash | and yet a barb, a monk and a DH killed hardcore hell diablo |
| 19:59.04 | Arrowmaster | and another wizard nerf is going to be incoming soon |
| 19:59.28 | Jamash | I find my wizard obliterates everything except bosses |
| 19:59.28 | Arrowmaster | because of living lightning + crit mass |
| 19:59.36 | Jamash | bosses are slightly tougher |
| 19:59.50 | TC-Work | I cant wait for duels |
| 20:00.40 | nevcairiel | i hope they dont go over-balancing for it |
| 20:00.47 | Jamash | but that was probably because I put nothing into survivability |
| 20:00.51 | TC-Work | na, leave it like it is, just put it in |
| 20:00.56 | Jamash | whereas my monk was selfhealing out the wazoo |
| 20:01.22 | TC-Work | this IS a pve game, no if's and's or but's. |
| 20:01.38 | nevcairiel | i'm sure there is a faction that wouldnt agree |
| 20:01.44 | Jamash | I hope pvp is unbalanced as hell and remains that way |
| 20:01.52 | nevcairiel | heck i consider WoW a PvE game :p |
| 20:01.58 | Jamash | wow is a pve game |
| 20:02.15 | nevcairiel | yet we have suffered endless class changes just to accomodate pvp |
| 20:02.30 | foxlit | why does a crossbow have a witchdoctor bonus? |
| 20:02.45 | TC-Work | it doesnt matter what you think it matters what blizzard thinks. and blizzard thinks of this as a pve game., |
| 20:03.07 | TC-Work | foxlit: because random is random? |
| 20:03.23 | foxlit | can witch doctors even equip crossbows? |
| 20:03.31 | foxlit | hm, suppose they can |
| 20:03.54 | Cide | you really can't say anything about inferno extrapolating from hell |
| 20:03.54 | TC-Work | yes |
| 20:05.08 | Jamash | so "elite" = champion (blue), rare (yellow) or unique (purple)? |
| 20:05.26 | nevcairiel | i guess people use it for anything thats not white |
| 20:05.42 | Jamash | 'cause there's a stat for +damage vs elites |
| 20:05.42 | nevcairiel | probably most fitting for rares |
| 20:05.49 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 20:05.59 | nevcairiel | guess that counts for all of those |
| 20:06.07 | foxlit | meh, the names are clealry wrong |
| 20:06.15 | Jamash | all the names for everything are wrong |
| 20:06.19 | foxlit | champions should be those yellow mobs with followers; rares should be blue :P |
| 20:06.22 | foxlit | but it's the reverse. |
| 20:06.43 | Arrowmaster | its more like champions and rare champions |
| 20:06.45 | Jamash | in diablo II, rare items are unique but unique items are rare |
| 20:06.55 | Jamash | you can't explain that |
| 20:06.57 | nevcairiel | wah |
| 20:07.06 | nevcairiel | d2 had rare items in yellow and unique items in gold |
| 20:07.09 | nevcairiel | what are you on about |
| 20:07.20 | Jamash | no two rares are the same, ergo they are unique |
| 20:07.21 | Arrowmaster | i think he means how all the uniques had the same stats |
| 20:07.26 | Jamash | but uniques are all the same |
| 20:07.40 | Cide | they weren't all the same |
| 20:07.41 | nevcairiel | i'm sure there are two rares that are the same |
| 20:07.49 | Jamash | I'm exaggerating for comic effect |
| 20:07.52 | Cide | since you had ranges on most of the stats |
| 20:08.00 | TC-Work | ~fail Jamash |
| 20:08.00 | purl | Jamash, you Fail! |
| 20:08.08 | Jamash | ~whalenuke TC-Work |
| 20:08.08 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around TC-Work with his mind powers. |
| 20:08.17 | TC-Work | ~whaleshield |
| 20:08.17 | purl | ACTION summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield tc-work from the blast. |
| 20:08.27 | Jamash | capitalization fail |
| 20:08.56 | Jamash | lua>"tc-work"=="TC-Work" |
| 20:08.57 | lua_bot | Jamash: false |
| 20:09.28 | Jamash | lua>Jamash==win |
| 20:09.29 | lua_bot | Jamash: true |
| 20:09.38 | Jamash | does a victory lap |
| 20:14.05 | mikma | haste: http://www.break.com/index/scary-truck-accident-on-highway-2329773 |
| 20:14.10 | mikma | haste: "oh noes my car" |
| 20:18.01 | Nechckn | So... for a first run through Skyrim, what would you all recommend as 'must have' mods, that do not skew the game too much? Thoughts? |
| 20:18.16 | Dagmar | Space core. |
| 20:18.18 | Dagmar | Gotta have it. |
| 20:18.26 | Dagmar | The Better Inventory mod. |
| 20:18.46 | Dagmar | ...because it sorts all the damn potions in a way that _matters_--by effectiveness. |
| 20:18.56 | Nechckn | Ah, very nice. |
| 20:19.01 | Dagmar | ...and maybe the shadow fix if they haven't already incorporated that |
| 20:19.23 | Dagmar | Everything else was relatively okay |
| 20:20.05 | Dagmar | There was a fix for some items you couldn't drop because the quest would dead-end if you did things in a certain order, but that's probably fixed now, _and_ quest items don't weigh anything anyway |
| 20:20.09 | Nechckn | Noted, sir. *Yeah, there are so many darn mods, it is hard to say which are totally needed, again, without making the person overly powerful and what not. |
| 20:21.12 | Nechckn | has only mucked about, and have yet to even really play it, myself, so your input is most appreciated, as always. ;-) |
| 20:23.38 | Dagmar | Just be glad the Steam Workshop is there |
| 20:26.31 | Nechckn | I just wish I had time to get in and tinker... but, alas, no. |
| 20:26.55 | Nechckn | Especially since the resource kit came out, it is pretty niftly. |
| 20:27.04 | Nechckn | nifty, even. |
| 20:34.12 | foxlit | "indestructible unspeakable thing" |
| 20:34.17 | foxlit | more things should be defined in terms of what they are not |
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| 20:41.44 | karl_w_w | surrounds foxlit with unsafe things |
| 20:44.16 | foxlit | this just in: gems stack to 30 |
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| 20:44.40 | Arrowmaster | i just put a boneweaver hauberk in a doorway |
| 20:44.47 | Arrowmaster | so cheap |
| 20:44.49 | foxlit | you exploiter you |
| 20:46.07 | karl_w_w | Arrowmaster have you no shame? |
| 20:46.27 | Arrowmaster | maybe later ill do the diablo follower exploit |
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| 20:57.15 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: http://www.justin.tv/zytrug/b/319194200 |
| 20:58.11 | nevcairiel | i dont want a video, i want to know what resets the damn frost nova cooldown all the time :P |
| 20:58.50 | Stanzilla | crits |
| 21:00.09 | Arrowmaster | it makes you wonder if the playtesters ever even played the wizard class |
| 21:02.40 | Dagmar | Probably it _retriggering_ when somethign dies, if you took teh talent for that |
| 21:02.45 | Stanzilla | that's what happens when you level cap a beta |
| 21:02.48 | Stanzilla | shit doesn't get tested :D |
| 21:04.35 | foxlit | sigh, jailer/desecrator/fast/vortex |
| 21:04.37 | Arrowmaster | Stanzilla: i ment their internal testers that they said never beat inferno |
| 21:04.54 | foxlit | didn't want to explore the rest of this zone anyway! |
| 21:05.00 | cogwheel | yay artificial difficulty! |
| 21:05.21 | Arrowmaster | i just reset the current level when i find a champ i cant kill or dont want to bother trying to kill |
| 21:06.13 | foxlit | yeah, but you're not 60 |
| 21:06.16 | Stanzilla | friend of mine is roflstomping through act1 and 2 atm |
| 21:06.20 | Stanzilla | killed butcher in 20s |
| 21:06.41 | cogwheel | pft bosses |
| 21:07.12 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: im 59 |
| 21:07.28 | Arrowmaster | 59.5 |
| 21:07.42 | foxlit | doesn't matter, no valor. |
| 21:08.02 | Arrowmaster | guess ill have to replace the flawless square ruby in my helm soon |
| 21:10.37 | Arrowmaster | Arrowmaster killed Arrowmaster with Skill Magic Weapon! |
| 21:10.56 | Arrowmaster | im fucking confused |
| 21:11.29 | Arrowmaster | i was fighting a Vortex Mortar Desecrator |
| 21:12.15 | Arrowmaster | somebody tell me how i killed myself |
| 21:13.30 | cogwheel | Arrowmaster: there's something f'ed up with the how you died messages |
| 21:13.38 | zenzelezz | mortars are dangerous |
| 21:13.40 | cogwheel | http://i.imgur.com/WDuvv.jpg |
| 21:13.43 | randomDude | Arrowmaster: Konnnnnfused |
| 21:14.38 | randomDude | obviously death by con-fusion |
| 21:15.33 | Maldivia | cogwheel: MastaBlasta combined lobbed shot... cool skill name :P |
| 21:17.25 | Arrowmaster | http://imgur.com/3lsX3 |
| 21:17.29 | alestane | Well, so much for Project Copernicus. |
| 21:20.05 | cogwheel | hmm? |
| 21:20.21 | alestane | Apparently 38 Studios has laid off EVERYBODY. |
| 21:20.34 | cogwheel | eep |
| 21:20.56 | alestane | They missed their May 1st loan payment that Rhode Island got them. |
| 21:21.06 | alestane | Then apparently they missed their last pay cycle. |
| 21:21.07 | Ressy | hadn't paid anyone since the 1st |
| 21:21.44 | alestane | Their health insurance is in arrears, or at least expires...tonight, I think it is. |
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| 21:22.18 | alestane | They laid off everyone at NBug Huge Games, too. |
| 21:22.23 | alestane | Big* |
| 21:22.56 | foxlit | hm, Arrowmaster, question |
| 21:23.09 | foxlit | how long does it take for your mobs to reset health after you die? |
| 21:24.25 | Arrowmaster | depends, those that i screenshotted arent healing at all right now |
| 21:24.30 | Arrowmaster | im still sitting at them dead |
| 21:24.41 | nevcairiel | maybe you need to not watch them |
| 21:24.53 | foxlit | I've watched some. |
| 21:24.59 | foxlit | It takes ~10 seconds of no combat for me. |
| 21:25.15 | nevcairiel | so no slowly dying through them? |
| 21:25.24 | foxlit | nope |
| 21:25.42 | Arrowmaster | stupid fucking templar, i had all the mortar mobs next to me and he knocked them all back and they started mortaring me |
| 21:26.03 | foxlit | bring along the thief instead |
| 21:26.06 | foxlit | more crit for you |
| 21:28.37 | Arrowmaster | i boneweavered them |
| 21:29.56 | nevcairiel | exploiting is just cheating |
| 21:30.12 | nevcairiel | beat them, or avoid them, don't exploit them |
| 21:30.38 | Arrowmaster | i only trapped one of them, they had vortex and pulled me over it |
| 21:30.55 | Arrowmaster | so i ran around out the other doorway and all but one followed me |
| 21:31.37 | nevcairiel | if it worked or not is irrelevant |
| 21:32.08 | foxlit | butbut! |
| 21:32.22 | foxlit | That's just how Arrowmaster normally plays; he emulates treasure goblins in hopes the mobs will leave him alone! |
| 21:32.33 | foxlit | saddest sight ever: a trail of 1 gold drops leading into nothing |
| 21:32.42 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 21:33.11 | nevcairiel | hate when you see a treasure goblin just run behind a huge ass pack, and once you're through, there is just this trail left |
| 21:33.22 | Dagmar | What's so special about that hauberk? |
| 21:33.38 | nevcairiel | its bugged, monsters can't walk over it, so you can block them |
| 21:33.45 | Dagmar | Weird |
| 21:33.53 | cogwheel | i echo one of the forum posters... how does that even happen? |
| 21:34.02 | Dagmar | I didn't think *any* items counted as occupied space |
| 21:34.07 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 21:34.09 | nevcairiel | its kinda weird that an item would be able to do that, indeed |
| 21:34.38 | Arrowmaster | its the only item that does |
| 21:34.43 | Arrowmaster | and it blocks players too |
| 21:35.27 | Arrowmaster | hmm my thief only has a level 35 bow |
| 21:35.40 | Arrowmaster | oh well, 3% crit is 3% crit |
| 21:40.19 | foxlit | I foresee the following change: "This effect cannot occur more often than once every 0.5 sec" |
| 21:42.31 | Cide | to what? |
| 21:42.59 | Arrowmaster | critical mass |
| 21:43.17 | Cide | not familiar with it |
| 21:43.23 | Arrowmaster | wizard passive |
| 21:43.35 | Arrowmaster | each crit has a chance to reduce cooldowns by 1 second |
| 21:43.51 | foxlit | though maybe that's unimaginative. "The cooldown reduction cannot exceed 50% of the spell's cooldown" |
| 21:44.33 | Arrowmaster | i wouldnt mind if the effect depended on the spell |
| 21:44.43 | Arrowmaster | like i dont think diamond skin is that overpowered with it |
| 21:45.13 | Arrowmaster | but everybody seems to think frostnova is |
| 21:46.34 | Arrowmaster | the more imaginative solution would be to change living lightning |
| 21:48.33 | Unkle | :( 38 Studios. </3 |
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| 21:50.37 | Arrowmaster | ok i just easily killed Ghom with http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#bXYROS!VgT!caYbZY |
| 21:51.13 | Arrowmaster | using the +75% dmg buff on venom hydra was a bit lol |
| 21:55.32 | Jamash | hiugise |
| 21:56.44 | zenzelezz | ohia |
| 21:58.28 | Jamash | my irc client thinks that skill calculator urls are terminated by ! so I get the skills but not the passives or runes unless I copy and paste the whole thing |
| 21:58.37 | Jamash | I wonder if I can edit the character class |
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| 22:24.05 | jnwhiteh | Any recommended build for a level 30 DH? |
| 22:24.17 | jnwhiteh | I've found with both Monk and DH that there's an entire class of skills I just don't like using =/ |
| 22:24.26 | jnwhiteh | for DH its any of the traps or archery skills |
| 22:24.29 | jnwhiteh | am I gimping myself? |
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| 22:24.43 | Cide | if you can get through stuff then no |
| 22:24.50 | jnwhiteh | I seem to be okay |
| 22:24.58 | jnwhiteh | I'm kiting a lot, but that's the life of a DH, it seems :P |
| 22:25.00 | Cide | as you progress through the difficulties you are pretty much forced into a specific build I find |
| 22:25.05 | Cide | at least with the monk |
| 22:25.18 | Cide | pretty much only running defensive skills in inferno |
| 22:25.32 | Cide | granted, there are still minor variations |
| 22:25.36 | jnwhiteh | my monk has blind, dashing strike, serenity, sss (for the invuln/damage) |
| 22:25.39 | jnwhiteh | but I'm only nightmare on him |
| 22:25.57 | Cide | yeah |
| 22:26.14 | Cide | I can't give you a recommended build though |
| 22:26.22 | Cide | haven't played DH |
| 22:26.26 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 22:26.42 | Jamash | test http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#bXYROS!VgT!caYbZY test |
| 22:28.50 | Arrowmaster | thats my build |
| 22:29.02 | Jamash | I know |
| 22:29.04 | Cide | he linked your url :P |
| 22:29.12 | Jamash | I'm testing my irc client's URL handling |
| 22:29.32 | Jamash | it doesn't like "!" |
| 22:29.47 | Arrowmaster | mine doesnt like ( |
| 22:29.58 | Cide | why can't they just break urls on space |
| 22:30.08 | Jamash | good question |
| 22:30.12 | Cide | or any space character even |
| 22:31.02 | Jamash | when I double click it I get http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#bXYROS |
| 22:32.25 | Jamash | "Players will now receive an error message when attempting to remove a gem from an item with no sockets (rather than disconnecting)" |
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| 22:40.39 | Jamash | why does zarhym keep trying to kill me |
| 22:41.28 | TC-Work | you have to ask? |
| 22:42.06 | Jamash | yes |
| 22:44.07 | TC-Work | stop being such a bad |
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| 22:47.05 | Jamash | z's lookin' pretty good there http://imgur.com/uwXMf (rated M) |
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| 22:48.11 | TC-Work | Jamash: is that you? |
| 22:48.27 | Jamash | the monk or the succubus |
| 22:48.33 | TC-Work | yes |
| 22:48.44 | Jamash | maybe? |
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| 22:58.11 | Arrowmaster | wow theres an entire page of the same exact item for the same buyout price up, somebodies been duping |
| 23:00.28 | Kraps | haha wheres that mob |
| 23:00.37 | Kraps | or is it random |
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| 23:00.51 | Arrowmaster | Kraps: ? |
| 23:01.07 | Kraps | Jamashs link, |
| 23:01.16 | Arrowmaster | random |
| 23:01.22 | cogwheel | i think the unique names are randomly assigned. I've seen a few different zarhyms |
| 23:01.27 | cogwheel | none were succubi |
| 23:01.38 | Arrowmaster | i find zarhym in almost every act |
| 23:01.40 | cogwheel | so it's not even "that mob" |
| 23:01.48 | Jamash | I've seen three or four zarhyms |
| 23:02.12 | foxlit | but have you killed the unburied jay wilson? |
| 23:02.29 | Jamash | what's this tools update |
| 23:04.02 | foxlit | http://www.diablowiki.com/ http://www.diablowiki.net/ http://diablo.wikia.com/ << diablo wikis are the new black |
| 23:04.26 | Jamash | yeah huh |
| 23:06.08 | Jamash | arrowmaster: screenshot or it didn't happen |
| 23:06.16 | Jamash | of the "duped" items |
| 23:07.29 | Jamash | do you get more dye colors available at higher difficulty? |
| 23:08.08 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: search for level 52 one hand weapons |
| 23:08.53 | Arrowmaster | the 300.1dps club |
| 23:09.16 | cogwheel | Jamash: yes |
| 23:09.37 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: which is the good one |
| 23:09.55 | foxlit | dunno, a pox on all their houses? |
| 23:10.12 | Arrowmaster | im guessing the first one since its the curse one |
| 23:10.54 | Jamash | so it is |
| 23:12.12 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: so does that look duped to you or what? |
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| 23:13.21 | Jamash | unless seeing as that's not a craftable item... yes |
| 23:13.27 | Jamash | s/unless // |
| 23:13.45 | foxlit | grumble, commodity auctions are instantly cancellable at no fee. |
| 23:14.14 | Jamash | note that there's more on subsequent pages |
| 23:14.34 | Jamash | same item, 293.2 dps |
| 23:14.45 | Jamash | someone *might* just have found an incredibly good farming spot |
| 23:15.15 | Arrowmaster | drops dont work like that |
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| 23:17.01 | Jamash | supposedly |
| 23:23.59 | kd3 | zOMG; they're relaunching reading rainbow |
| 23:24.10 | kd3 | (old news is old) https://twitter.com/levarburton/status/176351841083326465 |
| 23:24.21 | cogwheel | sweet! |
| 23:24.40 | A-KO | http://i.imgur.com/yq3h2.jpg |
| 23:24.42 | cogwheel | i loved that show (even though i hate reading) |
| 23:30.35 | foxlit | hate the waypoint map block in halls of agony 3 |
| 23:34.30 | Dagmar | A-Ko: Fucking fairies |
| 23:34.38 | Dagmar | You're going to have to spray for them now |
| 23:37.14 | Arrowmaster | wow lot of stuff went on sale on steam today |
| 23:37.51 | Dagmar | Big weekend coming up |
| 23:38.11 | Arrowmaster | hmm double fine bundle |
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